This is Not Music

I also think you should not worry so much about the music, unless it is entirely evil. Weddings are, by pure definition, about HUMAN love. And and so, songs that are sung will most likely be more romantic than none wedding songs.

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Helmut

It has been mentioned that you should not stir up trouble by resisting this song being played at the wedding.

Maybe you could talk about it a bit with your daughter; and see what kinds of compromises, or alternatives, you can come up with together, (without giving up any principles?)

Talking about it politely, always helps. Allow her to express her feelings on the matter without condemning her; and ask her to do the same for you:

Hebrews 13:16 "But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased."

Galatians 6:7 "...For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

Galatians 6:9 "And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not."

I just wanted to say that "Love will be our Home" is a very popular wedding song. I understand that you may view it as a rock song, but I can understand your daughter wanting it sung at her wedding if only for the meaning that it may hold for her and her husband to be. It is a song about the joys of love and happiness. Is this an issue you really want to force? I just came from a wedding where the parent of the bride ruined the wedding. Is this fair to the bride and groom? I understand that you are paying, but is it your day, or hers? Is it fair to her to place restrictions on your support of her day? You have asked her to reconsider this song, perhaps if you provided some options of other love songs to be performed at the wedding - or the same song performed in a different manner. There are many ways to compromise, and sometimes the fights we chose are not the right ones. Please do not alienate your daughter over this issue, and please do not ruin her day by forcing her to do things your way. She has been dreaming about this day for many years and planning the little details long before she met her current man. I know that you probably have as well, but remember who is getting married. I pray that you will find a solution that you can both live with and that it will be done in a spirit of love and fun, let their marriage start with good memories. The words of the songs sung have great meaning in the future.

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Originally posted by Helmut Eichman:
I thought the Ave Maria would be okay it is sung in latin. Maybe Panis Angelicus or the Lord's Prayer would be better.

The song my daughter wants to be sung is Love Will Be Our Home. I looked the song up on the Internet and it was also sung by Sandi Patti, who does Christian rock music.

Helmut

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Music is a taste issue, not a salvation issue. And those who want to make it a salvation issue are far more in danger then those who want to listen to a type of music.

Yes, I agree certain music is not fitting for the church to play, Ellen white does talk about the issue of drums. I suggest if the pastor of the Church and the Church board and all the elders in their wisdom see no problem with the music, let it be played. Listen, a wedding is (hopefully) a once in a life time event and a very special time, do you really want such a issue between you and your daughter for life?

Perhaps she needs growth to come to a higher level of understanding of music. That may come in time. Be happy she is in the church and loves you. Many Parents weep every night just to have your problems.

As for Ave Maria!!! I get sick everytime i here it played in an Adventist church ( it happen More then you imagine). This is a Catholic Hymn to Mary, who we know is dead. Hence this song is Spiritualism. Having this song played at your daughter's wedding would be on worse then having Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, or Black Sabbath (60's and 70's rock group known for endorsing Satanic teachings) played.

Allow a little grace and Let your Child have time to grow in to more truth and knowledge.

This is one of the weirdest threads I've ever read. I wonder how it turned out.

PB

Well, Paul, I got a laugh from your comment, anyway, for, I had wondered the same thing!

I must disagree with the gentleman who posted that music is not a salvation issue. The music we listen to, and especially that we play or sing in God's house, is definitely a salvation issue, with eternal consequences.

Music is the only form of communication that makes it into our consciousness without first passing through the frontal lobe of the brain, where the will is centered. So music can "get in our minds" without any conscious thought on our behalf. Satan knows this, as the former leader of the heavenly choirs. That's why it's really dangerous to de-emphasize the importance of music, and the proper type of music, in the life of the Christian.

Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi has done a good study on the subject of music entitled "The Christian & Rock Music" ( http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/rockbook/index.html ), where he draws lessons from the musical instruction given to the Israelites for the ancient temple services. Certain types of music and instruments were prescribed, and other types of music and instruments were not included for sacred services.

So consider it: would the God Who incinerated Nadab and Abihu for offering strange fire (Lev. 10:1-2) tolerate a heathen style of music to be played in the temple, in worship services? The answer is, obviously, an emphatic "NO". Why, then, should we tolerate it, even approve of it, for use in worship services now?

"When turned to good account, music is a blessing; but it is often made one of Satan's most attractive agencies to ensnare souls. When abused, it leads the unconsecrated to pride, vanity, and folly. When allowed to take the place of devotion and prayer, it is a terrible curse. Young persons assemble to sing, and, although professed Christians, frequently dishonor God and their faith by their frivolous conversation and their choice of music. Sacred music is not congenial to their taste. I was directed to the plain teachings of God's word, which have been passed by unnoticed. In the judgment all these words of inspiration will condemn those who have not heeded them." -- Testimonies, vol. 1, p. 506.

Here we have poor choice of music directly associated with judgment and condemnation. Music a salvation issue? Most definitely.

Furthermore, putting a rock beat with Christian lyrics and calling it sacred music, is akin to Roman Emperor Constantine marching his pagan troops through the river ford and calling them baptized. As we say here in the South, "that dog won't hunt".

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Originally posted by Paul Beach:
This is one of the weirdest threads I've ever read. I wonder how it turned out.

PB

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You should be able to tell us the answer, now shouldn't you Paul (aka ________)?

John, I definitely agree with you that music is a salvation issue. Just before entering the promised land, the Children of Israel were seduced into idolatry by the use of music. Now here we are on the borders of the heavenly promised land, and once again we see people being seduced by music.

That's a great parallel, Linda! The wrong kind of music and sexual wiles did in a bunch of the Israelites. "Beguiled with music and dancing, and allured by the beauty of heathen vestals, they cast off their fealty to Jehovah." Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 454. History repeating itself?

"Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall." -- 1 Corinthians 10:11,12.

[ April 28, 2002: Message edited by: John ]