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Healthy, Healthful Eggs for Health! #182915
03/25/17 06:45 AM
03/25/17 06:45 AM
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*Health Tip of the Week: If You Eat Eggs, Eat the Yolk!*

Compared with the egg white, egg yolks are loaded with nutrition. The egg white has 3.5 grams of protein and 17 Calories, but virtually no other nutrients to speak of. The yolk, on the other hand, provides a good dietary source of vitamin B12, riboflavin, iodine, vitamin D, selenium, molybdenum, pantothenic acid, choline, iron, zinc, copper, phosphatidylcholine (lecithin), protein, omega-3 fatty acids, and some phytochemicals, lutein and zeaxanthin. Lutein and zeaxanthin are carotenoids that “have a potential role in the prevention and treatment of certain eye diseases such as age-related macular degeneration, cataract and retinitis pigmentosa” (J Sci Food Agric. Ma. 2010 Jan 15;90(1):2-12.).

You may be wondering about the high cholesterol. However, “data from free-living populations show that egg consumption is not associated with higher cholesterol levels” (J Am Coll Nutr. Kritchevsky. 2004 Dec;23(6 Suppl):596S-600S). Egg yolks have properties that can help lower serum cholesterol levels. From our own church prophet, Ellen White says, “Eggs contain properties which are remedial agencies in counteracting poisons” (*Counsels on Diet and Foods, *367). However, she also says that the time of trouble is just before us and then we may have to discard milk and cream and eggs. Therefore, people everywhere should be taught how to cook without milk and eggs. But she cautions to not give up milk, cream and eggs too soon and bring trouble and death upon yourself, “But my message is that you must not bring yourself to a time of trouble beforehand, and thus afflict yourself with death.” Milk, cream, and eggs are part of the most healthful diet, in moderation. (CDF 202, 206, 355, 470).

Enjoy a well-cooked egg now and then!


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Healthy, Healthful Eggs for Health! [Re: Green Cochoa] #182924
03/25/17 02:19 PM
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This is sort of off topic on this, but I really think cholesterol levels have much more to do with genetics than diet. I ate meat for many years. A lot of it. I also eat eggs. I'm diabetic and unable to exercise, and my cholesterol level is 135 with high levels of good cholesterol. My wife has never eaten meat, eats very few eggs, uses very few dairy products, and has a cholesterol level of 227 and walks for exercise pretty regularly. Doctors are always wanting to prescribe some type of medicine for her to lower her cholesterol levels.

Now, if diet was the sole cause of cholesterol levels hers should be low and mine should be high. Just the opposite is true.

Re: Healthy, Healthful Eggs for Health! [Re: Green Cochoa] #182926
03/25/17 02:52 PM
03/25/17 02:52 PM
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Eggs
Michael Greger M.D. · Last Updated on March 10, 2017

Despite the powerful egg industry’s best efforts to put a “healthy” spin on egg consumption, eggs contain high levels of cholesterol and may contain carcinogenic retroviruses, heterocyclic amines, toxic pollutants (such as arsenic, perfluorochemicals like PCB, phthalates, flame retardant chemicals, dioxins), and Salmonella (see here and here). Consuming just one egg per day may significantly shorten our lifespans, increase the levels of the cancer-promoting growth hormone IGF-1, and increase our risk of heart disease, kidney stones, stroke, type 2 diabetes, gestational diabetes, and some types of cancer (such as pancreatic, breast, and prostate).

Eating a plant-based diet may improve mood, lead to weight loss, lower the risk of cataracts, neurological diseases, food poisoning, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, help reverse rheumatoid arthritis, and may increase lifespan. This may be due in part to the arachidonic acid, cholesterol, sulfuric acid, choline, methionine, and sex hormones in eggs and the relative lack of antioxidant phytonutrients.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Healthy, Healthful Eggs for Health! [Re: Green Cochoa] #182952
03/26/17 01:29 AM
03/26/17 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
*Health Tip of the Week: If You Eat Eggs, Eat the Yolk!*

Compared with the egg white, egg yolks are loaded with nutrition. The egg white has 3.5 grams of protein and 17 Calories, but virtually no other nutrients to speak of. The yolk, on the other hand, provides a good dietary source of vitamin B12, riboflavin, iodine, vitamin D, selenium, molybdenum, pantothenic acid, choline, iron, zinc, copper, phosphatidylcholine (lecithin), protein, omega-3 fatty acids, and some phytochemicals, lutein and zeaxanthin. Lutein and zeaxanthin are carotenoids that “have a potential role in the prevention and treatment of certain eye diseases such as age-related macular degeneration, cataract and retinitis pigmentosa” (J Sci Food Agric. Ma. 2010 Jan 15;90(1):2-12.).

You may be wondering about the high cholesterol. However, “data from free-living populations show that egg consumption is not associated with higher cholesterol levels” (J Am Coll Nutr. Kritchevsky. 2004 Dec;23(6 Suppl):596S-600S). Egg yolks have properties that can help lower serum cholesterol levels. From our own church prophet, Ellen White says, “Eggs contain properties which are remedial agencies in counteracting poisons” (*Counsels on Diet and Foods, *367). However, she also says that the time of trouble is just before us and then we may have to discard milk and cream and eggs. Therefore, people everywhere should be taught how to cook without milk and eggs. But she cautions to not give up milk, cream and eggs too soon and bring trouble and death upon yourself, “But my message is that you must not bring yourself to a time of trouble beforehand, and thus afflict yourself with death.” Milk, cream, and eggs are part of the most healthful diet, in moderation. (CDF 202, 206, 355, 470).

Enjoy a well-cooked egg now and then!


I believe this works well if the chickens are fed well and cared for.

Re: Healthy, Healthful Eggs for Health! [Re: APL] #182953
03/26/17 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: APL
Eggs
Michael Greger M.D. · Last Updated on March 10, 2017

Despite the powerful egg industry’s best efforts to put a “healthy” spin on egg consumption, eggs contain high levels of cholesterol and may contain carcinogenic retroviruses, heterocyclic amines, toxic pollutants (such as arsenic, perfluorochemicals like PCB, phthalates, flame retardant chemicals, dioxins), and Salmonella (see here and here). Consuming just one egg per day may significantly shorten our lifespans, increase the levels of the cancer-promoting growth hormone IGF-1, and increase our risk of heart disease, kidney stones, stroke, type 2 diabetes, gestational diabetes, and some types of cancer (such as pancreatic, breast, and prostate).

Eating a plant-based diet may improve mood, lead to weight loss, lower the risk of cataracts, neurological diseases, food poisoning, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, help reverse rheumatoid arthritis, and may increase lifespan. This may be due in part to the arachidonic acid, cholesterol, sulfuric acid, choline, methionine, and sex hormones in eggs and the relative lack of antioxidant phytonutrients.


I have a lot of respect for Dr. Greger and his story about his grandmother. But, my experience is that good eggs are still good for human consumption.

Re: Healthy, Healthful Eggs for Health! [Re: Green Cochoa] #183121
04/05/17 02:06 PM
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Green, how much B12 do you get from eggs?

Re: Healthy, Healthful Eggs for Health! [Re: ] #183123
04/05/17 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: Gary K
This is sort of off topic on this, but I really think cholesterol levels have much more to do with genetics than diet. I ate meat for many years. A lot of it. I also eat eggs. I'm diabetic and unable to exercise, and my cholesterol level is 135 with high levels of good cholesterol. My wife has never eaten meat, eats very few eggs, uses very few dairy products, and has a cholesterol level of 227 and walks for exercise pretty regularly. Doctors are always wanting to prescribe some type of medicine for her to lower her cholesterol levels.

Now, if diet was the sole cause of cholesterol levels hers should be low and mine should be high. Just the opposite is true.
You are correct. Diet is not the sole factor in "bad" cholesterol development. Emotional factors do come strongly into play here. My diet has been really off for a couple of years, but my cholesterol levels are fine. Now this gives us no license to eat what we want; as there would be other, potential effects from eating wrong foods, or wrong amounts of right foods. For those interested, there is a lot written by Ellen White about the effects of our mental processes on our health and well-being. Anything I just said was in no way directed at your wife my friend. smile


"The worst foes of my spiritual life have never been hostile circumstance."

"There is always a little bit of light" (Micah 7:8)
https://www.lightintheclouds.net/word

Sincerely, IN Christ; and THROUGH The Spirit


- The Wanderer
Re: Healthy, Healthful Eggs for Health! [Re: Alchemy] #183136
04/06/17 01:23 PM
04/06/17 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Originally Posted By: APL
Eggs
Michael Greger M.D. · Last Updated on March 10, 2017

Despite the powerful egg industry’s best efforts to put a “healthy” spin on egg consumption, eggs contain high levels of cholesterol and may contain carcinogenic retroviruses, heterocyclic amines, toxic pollutants (such as arsenic, perfluorochemicals like PCB, phthalates, flame retardant chemicals, dioxins), and Salmonella (see here and here). Consuming just one egg per day may significantly shorten our lifespans, increase the levels of the cancer-promoting growth hormone IGF-1, and increase our risk of heart disease, kidney stones, stroke, type 2 diabetes, gestational diabetes, and some types of cancer (such as pancreatic, breast, and prostate).

Eating a plant-based diet may improve mood, lead to weight loss, lower the risk of cataracts, neurological diseases, food poisoning, heart disease, diabetes, asthma, help reverse rheumatoid arthritis, and may increase lifespan. This may be due in part to the arachidonic acid, cholesterol, sulfuric acid, choline, methionine, and sex hormones in eggs and the relative lack of antioxidant phytonutrients.


I have a lot of respect for Dr. Greger and his story about his grandmother. But, my experience is that good eggs are still good for human consumption.
So all this evidence is really meaningless? Interesting!


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Healthy, Healthful Eggs for Health! [Re: APL] #183138
04/06/17 03:56 PM
04/06/17 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: APL
[/quote]So all this evidence is really meaningless? Interesting!


That kind of "evidence" is not empirically established for every country on earth, and if understood in its context, writings of Ellen White would advise people to use their best judgment for whatever geographical area we are living in.

For eg, here in Canada, Robin Hood Flour has just been recalled country-wide due to Listeria concerns. It is not always safe to even be vegetarian in certain situations.

I think that for now, eggs are ok in moderation, and not eaten every day for most areas. There might be exceptions.


"The worst foes of my spiritual life have never been hostile circumstance."

"There is always a little bit of light" (Micah 7:8)
https://www.lightintheclouds.net/word

Sincerely, IN Christ; and THROUGH The Spirit


- The Wanderer
Re: Healthy, Healthful Eggs for Health! [Re: The Wanderer] #183139
04/06/17 04:12 PM
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I think the spiritual person exercises moderation in all things, and avoids all extremes.

Originally Posted By: The Wanderer
I think that for now, eggs are ok in moderation, and not eaten every day for most areas. There might be exceptions.


Originally Posted By: Ecclesiastes 7:16-18 (NIV)
"16 Do not be overrighteous, neither be overwise—

why destroy yourself?

17 Do not be overwicked, and do not be a fool—

why die before your time?

18 It is good to grasp the one and not let go of the other.

Whoever fears God will avoid all extremes."


"Our vision is often more obstructed by what we think we know than by our lack of knowledge." K. Stendahl
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