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Pope's Sunday Law Agenda #180242
04/18/16 08:11 AM
04/18/16 08:11 AM
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"The Democratic US presidential hopeful, Bernie Sanders, brought his political revolution to the Vatican on Saturday, where he was granted a five-minute audience with Pope Francis.....he had met the pontiff on Saturday morning and discussed the need to inject morality and justice into the world economy, a view Sanders said he and the pope both share."

On April 15, Sanders was the only presidential candidate invited to speak at an event at the Vatican. The Vatican was celebrating the 25th anniversary of Centesimus Annus. Twenty five years earlier Pope John Paul II had written this encyclical expounding on the Vatican's stand concerning labor and workers.

In his speech Sanders is praising Pope Francis and the Centesimus Annus principles.

Sanders said:
Quote:
Our challenge is mostly a moral one, to redirect our efforts and vision to the common good. Centesimus Annus, which we celebrate and reflect on today, and Laudato Si’, are powerful, eloquent and hopeful messages


What does Centesimus Annus say about Sunday?

Quote:
Point #9
another right regarding the condition of the working class, one which I wish to mention because of its importance: namely, the right to discharge freely one's religious duties. The Pope wished to proclaim this right within the context of the other rights and duties of workers, notwithstanding the general opinion, even in his day, that such questions pertained exclusively to an individual's private life. He affirms the need for Sunday rest so that people may turn their thoughts to heavenly things and to the worship which they owe to Almighty God.28 No one can take away this human right, which is based on a commandment; in the words of the Pope: "no man may with impunity violate that human dignity which God himself treats with great reverence", and consequently, the State must guarantee to the worker the exercise of this freedom.

It would not be mistaken to see in this clear statement a springboard for the principle of the right to religious freedom, which was to become the subject of many solemn International Declarations and Conventions, as well as of the Second Vatican Council's well-known Declaration and of my own repeated teaching. In this regard, one may ask whether existing laws and the practice of industrialized societies effectively ensure in our own day the exercise of this basic right to Sunday rest.


Centesimus Annus itself was issued on the 100th anniversary of Rerum Novarum , an encyclical by Pope Leo XIII on Capital and Labor, which was even more explicit as to what it means to "ensure" Sunday rest.

Quote:
41. From this follows the obligation of the cessation from work and labor on Sundays and certain holy days. The rest from labor is not to be understood as mere giving way to idleness; much less must it be an occasion for spending money and for vicious indulgence, as many would have it to be; but it should be rest from labor, hallowed by religion. Rest (combined with religious observances) disposes man to forget for a while the business of his everyday life, to turn his thoughts to things heavenly, and to the worship which he so strictly owes to the eternal Godhead. It is this, above all, which is the reason arid motive of Sunday rest; a rest sanctioned by God's great law of the Ancient Covenant-"Remember thou keep holy the Sabbath day,"(31) and taught to the world by His own mysterious "rest" after the creation of man: "He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.

#57 To sum up, then, We may lay it down as a general and lasting law that working men's associations should be so organized and governed as to furnish the best and most suitable means for attaining what is aimed at, that is to say, for helping each individual member to better his condition to the utmost in body, soul, and property. It is clear that they must pay special and chief attention to the duties of religion and morality, and that social betterment should have this chiefly in view;....
Let our associations, then, look first and before all things to God; let religious instruction have therein the foremost place, each one being carefully taught what is his duty to God, what he has to believe, what to hope for, and how he is to work out his salvation; and let all be warned and strengthened with special care against wrong principles and false teaching. Let the working man be urged and led to the worship of God, to the earnest practice of religion, and, among other things, to the keeping holy of Sundays and holy days.


Finally we also see Sanders praising the Laudato Si
The Laudato Si is Pope Francis encyclical "On Care of our Common Home".
He also mentions the importance of Sunday being set apart

Quote:
# 237. On Sunday, our participation in the Eucharist has special importance....The law of weekly rest forbade work on the seventh day, “so that your ox and your donkey may have rest, and the son of your maidservant, and the stranger, may be refreshed” (Ex 23:12). Rest opens our eyes to the larger picture and gives us renewed sensitivity to the rights of others. And so the day of rest, centred on the Eucharist, sheds it's light on the whole week, and motivates us to greater concern for nature and the poor.


Notice how these documents place Sunday under the mandate of the ten commandments.

And remember -- this isn't just a "sermon" in the Catholic church where we would expect calls for Sunday keeping, Euchrist, Mary adoration, etc. -- this is a political outline of globalized proportions to change the world.

Re: Pope's Sunday Law Agenda [Re: dedication] #180243
04/18/16 11:12 AM
04/18/16 11:12 AM
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"...another right regarding the condition of the working class."

It's breathtaking, how gracefully the Vatican spin doctors make enforced Sunday keeping into a "right". Catholicism, Defender of the worker!



"...each one being carefully taught... what he has to believe..."

Frightenin, and prophetic, words of the forcing of conscience from Pope Leo!




"And so the day of rest, centred on the Eucharist, sheds it's light on the whole week, and motivates us to greater concern for nature and the poor."

I have noticed Francis repeatedly emphasizing the connection between the Eucharist, concern for nature, and the poor. This appears to offer a glimps into the Pontifical strategy: the Eucharist, shows the Pope to be superior to Christ as both His creator and executioner; the concern for nature, not only offers opportunity for worldwide political leadership and manipulation, it also gives the Pope dominion as protector of the Earth, thus usurping the place of Christ, the Second Adam; the concern for the poor, places the Pope in Christ's role as savior, sustainer, and bringer of justice for the weak, while simultaneously giving him control of the world's wealth (someone "above reproach" must be in charge of redistribution).

These three, Eucharist, Ecology, and Social Justice are united in "the day of rest". Sunday is made the time for renewal: of the spirit in the Eucharist, of the planet by cessation of labor and decreased pollution, of the physical body in rest.


An interesting parallel may also be seen In the words of the Fourth Commandment. "In six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is..."

Beneath the banner of Sunday, the Pope assumes the authority of Lawgiver and triply crowns himself. In the Eucharist, he is commander of Heaven. In the ecological movement, he is commander of Earth. In the social justice movement, he is commander of the sea: "The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." Revelation 17:15






"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Pope's Sunday Law Agenda [Re: dedication] #180256
04/19/16 01:15 AM
04/19/16 01:15 AM
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Very interesting and important comments, ProdigalOne!

Re: Pope's Sunday Law Agenda [Re: ProdigalOne] #180263
04/19/16 11:52 AM
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ProdigalOne wrote;

"shows the Pope to be superior to Christ as both His creator and executioner"

I know. The Pope can't murder Christ enough. Just like that movie called the "Passion of the Christ" by Mel Gibson.

Re: Pope's Sunday Law Agenda [Re: dedication] #180267
04/19/16 09:45 PM
04/19/16 09:45 PM
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The following is a sermon by Kim Kjaer, a former evangelist for Amazing Facts. It was posted at "Remnant on Line".

Quote:
The United States of America—Providence has nurtured it, protected it, and guided it from its very beginnings. With God’s blessing, it has prospered and risen in prominence to become the most powerful nation on earth.

The first Europeans to settle in the New World wanted something different. Otherwise they would not have left the known, to launch forth into the unknown. Many of them had observed, if not experienced first hand, tyranny, oppression and persecution. Their belief that freedom was possible drove them across the sea on a long and arduous journey.

...
Through revolution and civil war, through the drafting of the Declaration of Independence and our U.S. Constitution, God preserved this favored nation. Yet today we find our homeland in an unsettled state. Many voices sound the same warning—a crisis is coming. Agitation is everywhere. There are tempests, earthquakes, fires, floods and a disturbing level of violence, all warning of an approaching storm. Nothing seems secure. Nowhere seems safe.

In September of 2015, Pope Francis travelled to America to encourage her lawmakers to adopt his solutions for a world in need. According to the New York Times, the pope made “a passionate defense of immigration, an endorsement of environmental legislation, a blistering condemnation of the arms trade and a plea to abolish the death penalty.” (Peter Baker and Jim Yardley, The New York Times, September 24, 2015). While many of these issues are political bombshells, the endorsement of environmental legislation is the one of most concern to those who cherish religious freedom.

In the history of America, this is the only pope ever to address our Congress. He did so as the pope of the Holy See, an independent, sovereign entity that holds Vatican City as its territory and maintains diplomatic relations with other states. Diplomatically, the Holy See acts and speaks for the Roman Catholic Church, of which, of course, the pope is also the head. His appearance to address our lawmakers constituted a major breach in the time-honored and tested wall of separation between church and state. While a spiritual leader might understandably address the leaders of a nation in a pastoral sense, encouraging them to faith and moral excellence, Pope Francis addressed the United States legislative body in a political sense, encouraging and even urging them to legislate his published political agenda.

Though it went unobserved by the media, religious freedom was the elephant in the room during the pope’s visit. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution specifically forbids the making of laws “respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” The pope encouraged Congress to enact laws supporting his views of right and wrong on immigration, climate change, and various other issues, on a moral basis. Bible prophecy predicts that the United States of America will eventually force “the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast,” symbolizing the Vatican.

Indeed, one small group of Protestants sought to secure a place around the US Capitol Building to protest the pope’s speech before Congress in September of 2015. A colleague of mine travelled to Capitol Hill to enquire about securing such a spot. He was told that all spaces were already taken. They had been secured by the Vatican months before, because the papacy did not want any visible dissent during the pope’s visit. As they talked, another worker behind the counter looked over their records and said, “Wait, there is still a place available. Area 7 is still available.”

The application was submitted and approved, the permit obtained, and on September 24, 2015, Seventh-day Adventist Protestants set up a table and handed out The Great Controversy, among other selections of literature, to many interested parties. Situated close to a security entrance to the Senate building, they watched vehicle after vehicle pull up and deliver its human cargo of priests and monks to the Capitol and Senate buildings.

The protesting group had a printed banner with a picture representing the woman of Revelation chapter 12. Seeing the banner and identifying the woman as Mary, several priests approached what they assumed to be a group of Catholic supporters of the pope and his visit. When they saw The Great Controversy books on the table, nearly all of them turned abruptly about and went back to the security entrance, where they then entered the Senate building.

One Franciscan monk, however, was willing to engage in conversation. He was asked why all the priests and monks were going into the Senate building. “They are having meetings with Congressional leaders to educate them on how to implement the pope’s encyclical on climate change.”

“Really,” my colleague said. “Well, I’ve read the encyclical, and it seems to me that the pope wants to have a world-wide Sunday law put in place, and through this Sabbath rest for the environment, the whole world would shut their businesses and factories down one day a week, and thus there won’t be as much carbon dioxide pouring into the air. Legislating Sunday closing will help the environment because it will lower greenhouse emissions.”

The monk looked at my colleague, paused for a moment, and then said, “That’s exactly what this is about.” He then turned, walked toward the security entrance, and entered the building.


Once the Pope’s visit was over, the Seventh-day Adventist group entered the Senate buildings as well. They visited nine congressional offices, enquiring of the staff members what they thought of the pope’s climate change encyclical. Did they know that ultimately the pope wanted to legislate Sunday observance?

As they talked, it was suggested by some that they return to Capitol Hill and go to all the offices to make the rest of the leaders and their respective staffs aware of the pope’s agenda. There are 535 offices, with thousands of people working in those offices. How long would it take to go to every office and engage every person? The group decided that it would be best to return and hold meetings for large numbers at once, rather than going to each office individually.

After much praying and planning on our part, God opened the way for such meetings to take place. As of this writing, people are already on the ground, working to secure venues to hold health and prophecy meetings, both in and around the Capitol buildings. Through a series of providences, rooms in the Senate buildings and staging areas in front of the Capitol are being secured.

Unknown to us at the time, 30,000 evangelical pastors plan to descend on Capitol Hill to pray for the nation to get back to God. That meeting will occur on April 9th. We are submitting the paperwork to secure the same area in order to conduct a meeting immediately after their meeting closes. We hope many of these pastors will stick around to hear the meeting we will conduct there and return to inform their churches of what they saw and heard.

We are also working with local churches to have as many members as possible attend the April 9th meeting, to mingle with the crowd, to hand out literature, and to invite them to our meetings. We are in conversation with the General Conference and hope to channel any interest gained from these meetings to the local churches for follow-up.

Do we think we can avert the coming storm? No; it will come in fulfillment of prophecy, but we can and we should do all in our power to delay it, to hold up the wall of separation of church and state. During this time of relative calm, we must make strong efforts to arrest the attention of political and religious leaders, to inform them that to adopt the agenda of Rome will bring disaster upon the nation.

Re: Pope's Sunday Law Agenda [Re: dedication] #180294
04/20/16 08:48 AM
04/20/16 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted By: dedication
The following is a sermon by Kim Kjaer, a former evangelist for Amazing Facts. It was posted at "Remnant on Line".

Quote:
The United States of America—Providence has nurtured it, protected it, and guided it from its very beginnings. With God’s blessing, it has prospered and risen in prominence to become the most powerful nation on earth.

The first Europeans to settle in the New World wanted something different. Otherwise they would not have left the known, to launch forth into the unknown. Many of them had observed, if not experienced first hand, tyranny, oppression and persecution. Their belief that freedom was possible drove them across the sea on a long and arduous journey.

...
Through revolution and civil war, through the drafting of the Declaration of Independence and our U.S. Constitution, God preserved this favored nation. Yet today we find our homeland in an unsettled state. Many voices sound the same warning—a crisis is coming. Agitation is everywhere. There are tempests, earthquakes, fires, floods and a disturbing level of violence, all warning of an approaching storm. Nothing seems secure. Nowhere seems safe.

In September of 2015, Pope Francis travelled to America to encourage her lawmakers to adopt his solutions for a world in need. According to the New York Times, the pope made “a passionate defense of immigration, an endorsement of environmental legislation, a blistering condemnation of the arms trade and a plea to abolish the death penalty.” (Peter Baker and Jim Yardley, The New York Times, September 24, 2015). While many of these issues are political bombshells, the endorsement of environmental legislation is the one of most concern to those who cherish religious freedom.

In the history of America, this is the only pope ever to address our Congress. He did so as the pope of the Holy See, an independent, sovereign entity that holds Vatican City as its territory and maintains diplomatic relations with other states. Diplomatically, the Holy See acts and speaks for the Roman Catholic Church, of which, of course, the pope is also the head. His appearance to address our lawmakers constituted a major breach in the time-honored and tested wall of separation between church and state. While a spiritual leader might understandably address the leaders of a nation in a pastoral sense, encouraging them to faith and moral excellence, Pope Francis addressed the United States legislative body in a political sense, encouraging and even urging them to legislate his published political agenda.

Though it went unobserved by the media, religious freedom was the elephant in the room during the pope’s visit. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution specifically forbids the making of laws “respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” The pope encouraged Congress to enact laws supporting his views of right and wrong on immigration, climate change, and various other issues, on a moral basis. Bible prophecy predicts that the United States of America will eventually force “the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast,” symbolizing the Vatican.

Indeed, one small group of Protestants sought to secure a place around the US Capitol Building to protest the pope’s speech before Congress in September of 2015. A colleague of mine travelled to Capitol Hill to enquire about securing such a spot. He was told that all spaces were already taken. They had been secured by the Vatican months before, because the papacy did not want any visible dissent during the pope’s visit. As they talked, another worker behind the counter looked over their records and said, “Wait, there is still a place available. Area 7 is still available.”

The application was submitted and approved, the permit obtained, and on September 24, 2015, Seventh-day Adventist Protestants set up a table and handed out The Great Controversy, among other selections of literature, to many interested parties. Situated close to a security entrance to the Senate building, they watched vehicle after vehicle pull up and deliver its human cargo of priests and monks to the Capitol and Senate buildings.

The protesting group had a printed banner with a picture representing the woman of Revelation chapter 12. Seeing the banner and identifying the woman as Mary, several priests approached what they assumed to be a group of Catholic supporters of the pope and his visit. When they saw The Great Controversy books on the table, nearly all of them turned abruptly about and went back to the security entrance, where they then entered the Senate building.

One Franciscan monk, however, was willing to engage in conversation. He was asked why all the priests and monks were going into the Senate building. “They are having meetings with Congressional leaders to educate them on how to implement the pope’s encyclical on climate change.”

“Really,” my colleague said. “Well, I’ve read the encyclical, and it seems to me that the pope wants to have a world-wide Sunday law put in place, and through this Sabbath rest for the environment, the whole world would shut their businesses and factories down one day a week, and thus there won’t be as much carbon dioxide pouring into the air. Legislating Sunday closing will help the environment because it will lower greenhouse emissions.”

The monk looked at my colleague, paused for a moment, and then said, “That’s exactly what this is about.” He then turned, walked toward the security entrance, and entered the building.


Once the Pope’s visit was over, the Seventh-day Adventist group entered the Senate buildings as well. They visited nine congressional offices, enquiring of the staff members what they thought of the pope’s climate change encyclical. Did they know that ultimately the pope wanted to legislate Sunday observance?

As they talked, it was suggested by some that they return to Capitol Hill and go to all the offices to make the rest of the leaders and their respective staffs aware of the pope’s agenda. There are 535 offices, with thousands of people working in those offices. How long would it take to go to every office and engage every person? The group decided that it would be best to return and hold meetings for large numbers at once, rather than going to each office individually.

After much praying and planning on our part, God opened the way for such meetings to take place. As of this writing, people are already on the ground, working to secure venues to hold health and prophecy meetings, both in and around the Capitol buildings. Through a series of providences, rooms in the Senate buildings and staging areas in front of the Capitol are being secured.

Unknown to us at the time, 30,000 evangelical pastors plan to descend on Capitol Hill to pray for the nation to get back to God. That meeting will occur on April 9th. We are submitting the paperwork to secure the same area in order to conduct a meeting immediately after their meeting closes. We hope many of these pastors will stick around to hear the meeting we will conduct there and return to inform their churches of what they saw and heard.

We are also working with local churches to have as many members as possible attend the April 9th meeting, to mingle with the crowd, to hand out literature, and to invite them to our meetings. We are in conversation with the General Conference and hope to channel any interest gained from these meetings to the local churches for follow-up.

Do we think we can avert the coming storm? No; it will come in fulfillment of prophecy, but we can and we should do all in our power to delay it, to hold up the wall of separation of church and state. During this time of relative calm, we must make strong efforts to arrest the attention of political and religious leaders, to inform them that to adopt the agenda of Rome will bring disaster upon the nation.



This reminds me of a video I saw, I think it was on this board, about these people in Washington D.C.. I will be praying for these meetings.

Yes, I found it. It is http://www.healtheirland.org

Last edited by Alchemy; 04/20/16 08:54 AM.
Re: Pope's Sunday Law Agenda [Re: dedication] #180311
04/21/16 08:33 AM
04/21/16 08:33 AM
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I saw that video a few weeks ago, amazing stuff! Prophesy is ripening before our eyes!
The group leader is Don Frost. His video lessons and sermons are eye openers.


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Pope's Sunday Law Agenda [Re: ProdigalOne] #180361
04/24/16 07:50 PM
04/24/16 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
I saw that video a few weeks ago, amazing stuff! Prophesy is ripening before our eyes! The group leader is Don Frost. His video lessons and sermons are eye openers.

Perhaps you meant to say, "[my own interpretation of] Prophesy is ripening before [my very] eyes!" That would of course be accurate.

///

Re: Pope's Sunday Law Agenda [Re: dedication] #180371
04/26/16 11:11 AM
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Actually, "Father" Peterson, prophesy is ripening before the wide open eyes of 18 or 19,000,000 Seventh Day Adventists! Of course the only "interpretation" that matters is that of God.

By His grace, many millions more are already discovering the Truth that your Jesuit masters have so long sought to hide!


It's not too late. Listen, even now you can hear the Spirit pleading...

Babylon is fallen, "Mr." Peterson!
Come out of her, James! That ye be not a partaker of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Pope's Sunday Law Agenda [Re: dedication] #180374
04/26/16 01:58 PM
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Sunday --
once the Sabbath truth is understood, the setting apart of Sunday as the day of worship becomes the "trump card" of the "do it myself" works counterfeit.

Like Cain, it is saying, yes, I will worship God BUT I will do it my way, not God's way. Sure, it is saying, we must keep one day out seven in order for God to favor our nations, but we will choose the day man sanctified, and tread upon the day that God sanctified.

The creature (pope) is worshipped, not God, for
the pope's will is done, not God's will.

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