#167 - What Is Our True Condition?

Hello all,

Our new topic, (What Is Our True Condition?) is the first of a series which we hope to run in weeks to come. We think you will find Herb Montgomery to be a dynamic young preacher who has hit the nail on the head. In the weeks to come he will share a powerfull message with our Adventist community, and we hope that your spiritual experience with the Lord will grow as Herb unfolds the gospel.

Enjoy!

The link for the sermon that goes with this weeks topic is http://www.tagnet.org/sda-today/current_feature.htm

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~VINCE~ IN ~CHRIST~
SDA-TODAY moderator

The Spirit is constantly seeking to draw the attention of men to the great offering that was made on the cross of Calvary, to unfold to the world the love of God, and to open to the convicted soul the precious things of the Scriptures. {AA 52.4}

I just want to say that I have never heard this weeks sermon before now and it is really touching my heart! For those of you who have not heard it yet you must listen to it as soon as you can, it truly is amazing.

Herbs, story about his relationship with his Father and how that effects his relationship with his Heavenly Father truly moved me (almost to tears). He raised good strong hard hitting points that should not be missed!

I will have alot more to say about this weeks sermon latter on, for now I just want to encourage you that if you need a wonderful eye opening blessing this week ( as I did) Don't postpone listening to this message. YOU WILL BE BLESSED!

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~VINCE~ IN ~CHRIST~
SDA-TODAY moderator

The Spirit is constantly seeking to draw the attention of men to the great offering that was made on the cross of Calvary, to unfold to the world the love of God, and to open to the convicted soul the precious things of the Scriptures. {AA 52.4}

It's not often that it's good to be 2nd or 3rd in line. Just posted to say thanks guys for posting the current topic & especially the links, while I was busy elsewhere.

The topic title makes you wonder, why do SDA Pastors both young & old persist in focusing upon our corperate & individual spiritual conditions as SDA's ?

Here is a link to an older SDA Pastor Richard O'Fill's home page.

http://www.revivalsermons.org/

The sermon I am focusing on is this one.
http://www.revivalsermons.org/excuse.htm

I have not yet read or listened to the sermon from the young minister from Light Bearers Ministry. However I expect to see similiar trends.

Could it be that contemporary SDA worship & culture in the North American Division is not what God is looking for as the experience among us as a people.

Could there be a different SDA experience that God is seeking to develop and rebuild among us ?

Amos 3:7 says this.
7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

Could the declarations of the experience God is seeking to implant & rebuild among us, be found in the writtings of the prophets ?

Especially considering this statement in the book of Malachi.
Malachi 4:5-6
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

The time is just before the coming of the Lord Christ. It is called a dreadful day. Is that His first coming or Second?

The physical Hebrew nation was being called to prepare for judgement while they were still alive & move on into the reasons for judgement.

Seperate those and what needed seperating and destroy them and that.

Gether in those and what needed gethering and put them and those things to work in the imminent mission - gethering and training and baptizing and organizing the gentiles under that one safe faith; because wordwide falling away and polarization would soon bring persecution and inability to work for God.

Would such a 1st Century concept and faith and mission have a current counterpart ?

Would eyesalve, gold tried in the fire, white raiment from century 1AD be still essential now in the 21st century ?

After this I will click on the link & listen. If this post compliments that sermon I do not want anyone to suspect I borrowed from it. In healthcare patients and prospective patients get 1st & 2nd & third opinions and look for trends that agree and disagree, in order to decide to trust the physicians verdict and plan of care, to restore them. The sources of the opinions generally do not colaborate before hand the opinions are given.

God is the physician. Can His care plans be trusted enough to be used as they read ?
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Edward F Sutton

[This message has been edited by Edward F Sutton (edited November 02, 2001).]

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Originally posted by Edward F Sutton:

The topic title makes you wonder, why do SDA Pastors both young & old persist in focusing upon our corperate & individual spiritual conditions as SDA's?

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Do you think this is a good thing or a bad thing?

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~VINCE~ IN ~CHRIST~
SDA-TODAY moderator

The Spirit is constantly seeking to draw the attention of men to the great offering that was made on the cross of Calvary, to unfold to the world the love of God, and to open to the convicted soul the precious things of the Scriptures. {AA 52.4}

its bad..we are laodicens..the bible declares..Ellen white in more than 50 statements says it..but like all, we deny it. The GC is suing folks left and right using the tithe as they for stocks and bonds..

Its a matter of time before God closes out the GC business. And for the probation of this church..professed church.

I'm sorry, but, I do not understand your meaning that "it is only a matter of time before God closes out the GC, and the probation of this church...professed church." I probably didn't quote you exactly, but, I am wondering is that a quote you gave or perhaps your own prophetic prediction? And, I don't understand it whichever it may be!

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Originally posted by Remnant8:
its bad..we are laodicens..the bible declares..Ellen white in more than 50 statements says it..but like all, we deny it. The GC is suing folks left and right using the tithe as they for stocks and bonds..

Its a matter of time before God closes out the GC business. And for the probation of this church..professed church.

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I support the GC in this matter. I run a Lay ministry and it was it cost me hundreds and a approaching thousands to run a year. I have to be Creative. But you don't see me trying to Rob the store house and take Tithe that clearing Biblically is not mine.

Remnant8 You have read who the accuser of the BRETHREN is correct? Yes, the GC makes mistakes. This is not one of them. If you could put you money in the hands where God has rested His faith to finish this work, you'd do well indeed.

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[ June 15, 2002, 08:17 AM: Message edited by: Daryl Fawcett ]