Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory

Posted By: Avalee

Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 01/20/07 04:08 PM

Is this new to anyone? Sure is to me. This is the first time I have heard of it. You can read the entire article at:

Artificial meat

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Technology is rapidly emerging that will allow scientists to grow artificial meat for human consumption. Yes, this will be just like meat at a molecular level, except it won't come from an animal. It will come from a factory where it was grown cell by cell on a lattice structure using some advanced technology. This article is about the implications about such technology in terms of society, public health, ethical treatment of animals, and other such topics. But let me begin it by saying up front that I cautiously support the artificial growing of meat for a number of (possibly surprising) reasons that I will detail here.


The person who sent me this link also sent a list of other article where this was found. I have put that link here and you can see many articles on health there. Be advised I have not read the other articles so I am not sure of their content:

Health, etc. articles
Posted By: RLW

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 01/21/07 05:23 AM

The article didn't explain how artificial meat would be grown, nor did it offer a definition of artificial meat. I've always thought of artificial meat as "meat analogs" such as vege-burgers and the like. Meat substitutes made from soybeans, as an example.
But this article is talking about something else. I'm not understanding it! Do they propose to take animal flesh and somehow be able to grow it independently of a conscious animal? What am I not understanding?
Posted By: Daryl

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 01/21/07 05:30 AM

I am wondering the same thing on just how they will be able to do this.

Maybe we will hear more about this later on.
Posted By: vastergotland

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 01/21/07 02:54 PM

It is a technique where individual cells from humans or animals are taken and breed in laboratory settings. Previously I have heard about this beeing used for creating new ears for humans who have lost theirs through accidents. I have also heard about experiments trying to use this to recreate hearts and livers. The advantage if this works, contrary to transplanting from another human, is that since it is grown from the persons own tissue there would be less or no need for medication to keep the transplanted organ in the body.

This is the first time I heard about this being used in the meat industry but I guess it was only a matter of time. Will be interesting to see if this works and if people will really be willing to eat it once it is released on the market.
Posted By: gordonb1

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 01/21/07 06:03 PM

Thomas,

I'm unsure God's patience will last that long.

Gordon
Posted By: vastergotland

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 01/21/07 10:44 PM

I think the medical implementations are happening today.
Posted By: Will

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 01/22/07 06:28 AM

A couple of things as I glanced through the posts:
1. Human parts are being grown currently i.e. cartilege etc.
2. The artificial meat is grown cell by cell. I saw a documentary on this and it was the most expensive hamburger 1/4 pounder if that for roughly $10K. some of the scientists ate it to test it out, the texture looked like beef.

God Bless,
Will
Posted By: gordonb1

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 01/26/07 08:12 PM

It would appear that meat-eaters could ere long be consuming human cells. Cannabalism at arm's length so to speak. Not quite the Eden diet.

Gordon
Posted By: vastergotland

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 01/26/07 10:20 PM

Not likely. Think meat-eaters will ere long be consuming cow cells. Though, that isnt such a huge difference from how it is now. Hopefully for them, there will be fewer unwanted lifeforms in the meat. And you eliminate the risk of mad cow disease.
Posted By: crater

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 01/28/07 06:55 AM

Is it cloning? or something different.

Agribusiness is already putting animal DNA into the food crops.

I remember back in the mid 1970's, I was going home with one of my roommates for Thanksgiving holiday. We had gotten a ride with a fellow student. I remember him telling us that one day they would grow cows and such like a plant or something. Very science fiction then. I have heard of it in the past by people that are into sci fi. Seems like that "futurist advances" are often first mentioned in science fiction literature. Maybe to get people use to the idea first or it was thought up as fiction and some will take the idea and go with it.

I remember seeing on the science channel some time back a special they had. It was about all the things that were invented because of the Star Trek series.
Posted By: Tammy Roesch

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 02/03/07 12:57 PM

Pretty scary sounding to me... More evidence that we better know the source of our food and grow as much of our own food as possible....
Posted By: crater

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 02/08/07 11:06 AM

I was told that the technology stems from that used to grow skin in petrie dishes for skin grafts.
Posted By: Johann

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 02/09/07 03:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Tammy Roesch
Pretty scary sounding to me... More evidence that we better know the source of our food and grow as much of our own food as possible....


Thank you, Tammy. This is becoming more and more important that we know what we eat.

Some Adventist ate some beef recently at a cafeteria, but discovered afterwards this was artificial beef made from pork!

Why should we be so anxcious to use artificial meat, regardless of how vegetarian it is, when the best comes straight from the ground God provided for man to work with since the days of Adam?
Posted By: A Dogs Life

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 02/09/07 08:09 AM

When EGW says that we should all have a small plot of land where we could grow or own food it makes you understand why country living is so important now days.With all the GNA foods. I had a watermelon that I had bought and had left it sitting on my kitchen counter for a couple of weeks and it had showed no signs of spoiling, so I decided to see how long it would take before it spoiled, well after 6mo I finely threw it a way and it sill hadn't spoiled.
Posted By: crater

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 02/09/07 09:17 AM

Man is definitly tampering with traditional foods. The more I read about it the scarier it gets. From irridation of fresh food, adding genetic material from animals to genetically engineered bovine growth hormone (rBGH) used to increase production of milk in dairy cows.

According to an article by Patrick West we may be getting something extra in our food.
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Are Our Fruits and Vegetables Vegan? by Patrick West

With the genetic alteration of our foods, many of our fruits, vegetables, legumes, and processed foods contain genetic material from animals. By genetic alteration (also known as biotechnology, genetic engineering, genetically modified), I mean that genes from one organism are extracted and inserted into the cells of another organism in the laboratory. For example, tomatoes have been engineered with a gene found in the blood of flounders. This gene is responsible for keeping a flounder from freezing in the ice-cold waters in which it lives. The modification is made to create tomatoes that will grow in the cold of winter without freezing. Another not-so appetizing example is lettuce engineered with genes from rats to "enhance" its taste ...........................................................................................

Another genetic engineering development is Bt crops, crops that contain the naturally occurring insecticide, Bt, used as a last resort by organic farmers. So, instead of being sprayed by the chemical, every cell in the plant now contains the chemical. Pesticide residue is no longer a problem because now the pesticide is contained in the plant itself. http://www.health.rmad.org/west_comment.htm
Posted By: crater

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 02/09/07 09:30 AM

Originally Posted By: A Dogs Life
When EGW says that we should all have a small plot of land where we could grow or own food it makes you understand why country living is so important now days.With all the GNA foods. I had a watermelon that I had bought and had left it sitting on my kitchen counter for a couple of weeks and it had showed no signs of spoiling, so I decided to see how long it would take before it spoiled, well after 6mo I finely threw it a way and it sill hadn't spoiled.


Yes I have had some strawberries and pineapple in my fridge for a few weeks now and the berries are just now starting to go bad. It makes me wonder.

I didn't get plant a garden for the past few years but I'm going to try and get one in this year. Had a few sunny days so started to think along those lines. Need to get my seed catalogue out and get some plants started.
Posted By: crater

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 05/09/07 05:38 PM

In the U S for the past month or so the news media has given reports of contaminated pet food. The pet food has also been reported to have been fed to "farm", "caged" fowl, fish, and mammals that are now out in the market place. One of the items in the food that was contaminated was reported to be gluten.

I am wondering if there is any possibility that some of this gluten has been used in the "meat analog" industry and in products such as "Vital Gluten"?
Posted By: Daryl

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 05/10/07 02:29 AM

Organically grown food and organically fed chickens, etc. seems to be the thing where I live, as I see it advertised very clearly and carefully in our grocery stores.
Posted By: crater

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of factory - 07/15/07 05:59 PM



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Posted By: crater

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of fac - 10/13/08 10:10 AM

My husband recently watched a program on one of the science channels about how a they have used an ink jet printer to create a heart valve. As this technology is perfected there will no longer be a need for organ donors.

A Wake Forest University researcher has successfully created 18 types of tissue, including a sheep heart valve, in his laboratory.

Medicine's Cutting Edge: Re-Growing Organs
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Dr. Atala, one of the pioneers of regeneration, believes every type of tissue already has cells ready to regenerate if only researchers can prod them into action. Sometimes that prodding can look like science fiction.

Emerging from an everyday ink jet printer is the heart of a mouse. Mouse heart cells go into the ink cartridge and are then sprayed down in a heart shaped pattern layer by layer.

Dr. Atala believes it's a matter of time before someone grows a human heart.
Posted By: D R

Re: Artificial meat would be a preferable alternative to the cruelty and environmental impact of fac - 10/15/08 04:14 PM

Wow, this gives a whole new meaning to "create in me a new heart"
interesting, I am sure the ethical debate would be extremely interesting to follow.
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