Posted By: Garywk
Luke 22:32 - 03/27/17 03:23 AM
Here Jesus is talking to Peter.
The word translated as "prayed" as per Strong's is pretty interesting.
Jesus said that he begged, as in binding Himself, so that Peter's faith might not fail. This kind of intrigued me as I had never understood to "beg" something of someone as somehow being something that is somehow binding on the person doing the asking.
I found, in one of the multiple online dictionary applications I have installed on my laptop the following definition of beg.
This definition comes from the The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48. It makes a lot clearer, to me, the "binding oneself" part of begging.
Don't know if anyone else will be interested in it, but I was.
Quote:
But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
The word translated as "prayed" as per Strong's is pretty interesting.
Quote:
[*StrongsGreek*]
1189 deomai deh'-om-ahee middle voice of 1210; to beg (as binding oneself), i.e. petition:--beseech, pray (to), make request. Compare 4441. see GREEK for 1210 see GREEK for 4441
1189 deomai deh'-om-ahee middle voice of 1210; to beg (as binding oneself), i.e. petition:--beseech, pray (to), make request. Compare 4441. see GREEK for 1210 see GREEK for 4441
Jesus said that he begged, as in binding Himself, so that Peter's faith might not fail. This kind of intrigued me as I had never understood to "beg" something of someone as somehow being something that is somehow binding on the person doing the asking.
I found, in one of the multiple online dictionary applications I have installed on my laptop the following definition of beg.
Quote:
Usage: To ask (not in the sense of inquiring) is the generic
term which embraces all these words. To request is
only a polite mode of asking. To beg, in its original
sense, was to ask with earnestness, and implied
submission, or at least deference. At present,
however, in polite life, beg has dropped its original
meaning, and has taken the place of both ask and
request, on the ground of its expressing more of
deference and respect. Thus, we beg a person's
acceptance of a present; we beg him to favor us with
his company; a tradesman begs to announce the arrival
of new goods, etc. Crabb remarks that, according to
present usage, "we can never talk of asking a person's
acceptance of a thing, or of asking him to do us a
favor." This can be more truly said of usage in
England than in America.
[1913 Webster]
term which embraces all these words. To request is
only a polite mode of asking. To beg, in its original
sense, was to ask with earnestness, and implied
submission, or at least deference. At present,
however, in polite life, beg has dropped its original
meaning, and has taken the place of both ask and
request, on the ground of its expressing more of
deference and respect. Thus, we beg a person's
acceptance of a present; we beg him to favor us with
his company; a tradesman begs to announce the arrival
of new goods, etc. Crabb remarks that, according to
present usage, "we can never talk of asking a person's
acceptance of a thing, or of asking him to do us a
favor." This can be more truly said of usage in
England than in America.
[1913 Webster]
This definition comes from the The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48. It makes a lot clearer, to me, the "binding oneself" part of begging.
Don't know if anyone else will be interested in it, but I was.