A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012

Posted By: Elle

A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/03/12 04:57 AM

Wow! listen to this public statement to the world from 130 Nations that has allied together to throw down Mystery Babylon (the 1% Elite) and are presently bringing them to court which was filed at the end of November 2011. The link of the detail of this court case and what has really been going on in this world since 1800s is available at the IMF Bombshell: Age of America near ends topic post #138209 - 12/17/11

Now these 130 countries wants to give the power to the people, stop debts, and make a better world.

See the first public statement of the New world Economy restructure Introduction given a video clip format in this link : http://www.cmn.tv/news/new-world-currency/

Below is part of the transcript of what is being said

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A New Global Economic Restructuring
Conscious Media Network has been approached by a representative of global leaders and financiers from 130 nations to broadcast a statement about a new global economic restructuring arising in 2012.

The statement will be delivered via a video-taped interview with a layperson on behalf of the consortium that has been working behind the scenes, on the problem of the unsustainable global economy for the past 8 years. The party who drafted this statement has stated, in response to conspiracy concerns, that “The usual suspects are not the suspects” and that the Global Elite also understand that the unsecured, digital money system has failed us all, including themselves.

This announcement is to serve as the introduction of a New Global Economic Structure that will begin surfacing in 2012. Those involved in this plan are calling it the “greatest humanitarian effort” in modern history. It will be for each of us to determine over time if this is a truthful statement.

CMN is serving as a neutral party for this broadcast and what it claims, as the economic consortium does not wish to break this news through mainstream media at this time. Please give this your serious attention, as it may be heralding a new way of conducting commerce on the planet that will effect us all well into our future. It will be through our understanding and acceptance that this will happen.

A portion of this plan does include a dissolution of debt in a carefully considered and planned way. The plan itself is paradigm shattering, and only hinted at in this video-taped statement.

There will be more to come throughout the year.

Thanks to a CMN viewer a German video is available with subtitles that may help to understand the changes that are being considered. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4p4pA8ivZo

Read the announcement below:
Neither banks nor public authorities (or mainstream academics, for that matter) calculated the economy’s realistic ability to pay – that is, to pay without shrinking the economy. Through their media and think tanks, they have convinced populations that the way to get rich most rapidly is to borrow money to buy real estate, stocks and bonds rising in price – being inflated by bank credit – and to reverse the past century’s progressive taxation of wealth.

To put matters bluntly, the result has been junk economics. Its aim is to disable public checks and balances, shifting planning power into the hands of high finance on the claim that this is more efficient than public regulation. Government planning and taxation is accused of being “the road to serfdom,” as if “free markets” controlled by bankers given leeway to act recklessly is not planned by special interests in ways that are oligarchic, not democratic. Governments are told to pay bailout debts taken on not to defend countries in military warfare as in times past, but to benefit the wealthiest layer of the population by shifting its losses onto taxpayers.

The failure to take the wishes of voters into consideration leaves the resulting national debts on shaky ground politically and even legally. Debts imposed by fiat, by governments or foreign financial agencies in the face of strong popular opposition may be as tenuous as those of the Habsburgs and other despots in past epochs. Lacking popular validation, they may die with the regime that contracted them. New governments may act democratically to subordinate the banking and financial sector to serve the economy, not the other way around.
Credit:

MICHAEL HUDSON - a former Wall Street economist. A Distinguished Research Professor at University of Missouri, Kansas City (UMKC), he is the author of many books, including Super Imperialism: The Economic Strategy of American Empire (new ed., Pluto Press, 2002) and Trade, Development and Foreign Debt: A History of Theories of Polarization v. Convergence in the World

Taken from: http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/12/02/debt-slavery-%E2%80%93-why-it-destroyed-rome-why-it-will-destroy-us-unless-it%E2%80%99s-stopped/

Voluminous media reports of ongoing global economic carnage may lead one to take the view that our world does not understand the fundamentals of economics that ancient world leaders such as Hammurabi, Egyptian Pharoahs, and even Roman Emperors knew very well.

The truth is quite simply that debt based economies – money as debt with all its’ intrinsic inequality and poverty is eternally fated for destruction. Ancient despots were anything but humanitarians. Like all despots throughout history they were driven by self interest. But did they recognize at least that a fair economic system is in everyone’s best interest?

Given our dire economic circumstance it is forgivable that we little people despair and wring our hands. The prevailing view of the little people is that we are powerless to effect great change. We may feel that we have awoken only in enough time to spectate as world leaders stare uncomprehendingly at yet another inevitable global collapse.

It is not that world leaders or financial leaders and economists too numerous to even mention have failed to notice the collapse of the current financial system.

In this regard, refer to the comments of Sir Mervyn King, Governor the Bank of England, and the comments of Stephen Green as HSBC Chairman, and the comments of the Pope, and the very recent comments of President Barack Obama plus many, many others. All of these views are from the unique perspective of each individual but there is a common thread.

The comments of Stephen Green are of particular interest. Mr. Green remarks that Milton Friedman was completely wrong (profit only – nothing else matters) but Mr. Green is still compelled to support free market economics. He quotes Sir Winston Churchill who famously stated: “The market is the worst system of economic and social development – except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.”

So the thought is that although free market capitalism is the very worst system, nothing else works either. Socialism, capitalism, communism all fail. There are no credible working “isms” then. Churchill’s comments should be acknowledged by all of us.

So what can we do? Can we only create more debt and accelerate the decline? Are we all – governments, little individuals, and institutions powerless?

The solution is the creation of a new financial system that that is endowed with the most powerful economic tools the world has ever known. It is not an “ism”. It is commerce aimed at the creation of scalable affluence for the greatest number of people within a sustainable, asset backed “bubble up” global economy.

It is an institution for the purpose of providing benevolence for all of humanity, regardless of color, worldview or place on earth. All of this without the creation of debt and without causing harm to the interests of others, no matter if they are great or small.

Although it is known today only by a handful of people throughout the world it nevertheless exists within a mighty and powerful new system that has been created and managed by little people.

It has already begun with little people. Little people are the most powerful force on earth.

Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England, states “of all the many ways of organizing banking the worst is the one we have today”

Link to article:

(http://www.positivemoney.org.uk/2010/10/...-we-have-today/)

Extract from article on speech of Stephen Green:

American free market economics guru Milton Friedman was wrong to assert that companies should focus on shareholder value above all other considerations, HSBC Chairman Stephen Green declared.

Link to full article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econo...een-argues.html

Extract of article from speech of Barack Obama in Kansas:

Now, just as there was in Teddy Roosevelt’s time, there is a certain crowd in Washington who, for the last few decades, have said, let’s respond to this economic challenge with the same old tune. “The market will take care of everything,” they tell us. If we just cut more regulations and cut more taxes – especially for the wealthy – our economy will grow stronger. Sure, they say, there will be winners and losers. But if the winners do really well, then jobs and prosperity will eventually trickle down to everybody else. And, they argue, even if prosperity doesn’t trickle down, well, that’s the price of liberty.
Now, it’s a simple theory. And we have to admit, it’s one that speaks to our rugged individualism and our healthy skepticism of too much government. That’s in America’s DNA. And that theory fits well on a bumper sticker. But here’s the problem: It doesn’t work. It has never worked. It didn’t work when it was tried in the decade before the Great Depression. It’s not what led to the incredible postwar booms of the 50s and 60s. And it didn’t work when we tried it during the last decade. I mean, understand, it’s not as if we haven’t tried this theory.

Link to full text of speech:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/07/full-text-barack-obama-speech

Extract of article concerning Pope’s 2009 encyclical urging an ethical financial system

“The economy needs ethics in order to function correctly not any ethics, but an ethics which is people centered,” the pope says.

“Above all, the intention to do good must not be considered incompatible with the effective capacity to produce goods,” the Associated Press quotes him saying. “Financiers must rediscover the genuinely ethical foundation of their activity so as to not abuse the sophisticated instruments which can serve to betray the interests of savers.”

Link to article:

http://www.cathnews.com/article.aspx?aeid=14970
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/09/12 04:53 AM

Interesting.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/21/12 09:57 PM

Here's a followup found in the CMN website

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Important Clarification on Global Currency (new info added)
January 5, 2012

We have learned from the source of the video statement on a new global economic restructuring that there is no intention or requirement to substitute national currencies with a single new one.

They are simply saying that a new secured type of currency that does not include traditional compound interest bearing debt will be made available that is to be used for the purposes of initiating a larger plan.

The currencies that currently exist are going to succeed or fail on their own merits. Many of the major currencies have already shown signs of their lack of structural integrity.

It is said to be based on a new system of doing business that allows for the support of “the 99%” of human beings who have not had the necessary support from traditional banking institutions.

He says that the initial introduction of some elements of the plan should become visible in the near future.

We will post this and more updates as we receive them.

In the frenzy of news of such magnitude, assumptions are made and mistaken perspectives occur. After communication amongst the global alternative news community, a consensus appears to be emerging.

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:

January 9th 2012: Announcement from Benjamin Fulford.

Weekly Geopolitical News and Analysis20120109: The Feds have sued for peace and detailed settlement negotiations have begun

In a very major development, the Federal Reserve Board faction that is in de-facto control of the Obama regime and Israel has approached the White Dragon Society to negotiate a way to unfreeze their funds. They have promised to use any released funds for humanitarian projects and to develop hitherto forbidden technology.

The 130-nation group that announced a new financial system through the Conscious Media Network on January 1st also contacted the White Dragon Society and said they will prove with action, and not words, that they represent extremely powerful interests. This writer initially, and apparently incorrectly, denounced the announcement as a psy-ops because this group was not identical to the 117 nation Monaco group previously reported about in this newsletter.

All of these major factions will now have to reach an agreement. There will some serious horse-trading over the coming weeks before any sort of agreement is reached or public announcement is made but it appears a solution to the financial crisis is now on the horizon.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/22/12 05:46 PM

January 17th 2012:

"The negotiations on a new financial system for the planet are proceeding well but due to the complexity of the situation, it will take time before any public announcements are possible, according to sources close to the negotiations. The current owners of the Federal Reserve Board System and the Washington D.C. corporate government are hoping to offer enough reforms that they can stay in power. Their money has been frozen, though, by a group that would rather see them all put in jail. The final solution to the problem will need to involve an audit of the real world and the removal of all fraudulent funds from the system. It will also involve a massive redistribution of wealth, meaning that the American people and other worldwide victims of the cabal will get their stolen funds returned to them."

posted by Benjamin on his geo-politic news website
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/30/12 09:28 PM

Part of the Global financial restructure is a cleanup of the crooks in the leading positions in this world that made all kinds of frauds like the mortgage frauds that all the major banks in the US participated and ripped off the 99%. Matt Taibbi said if they go throught this investigation and prosecute these guys that over half of wall street will end up in jail.
Originally Posted By: Matt Taibbi
"If they do this for real, if they do this like an Enron-style investigation, you could have half the luminaries on Wall Street doing prison time.... They all made enormous profits from selling mismarked and over-evaluated mortgages to unsuspecting investors"

Watch this video about this start of the world cleanup. Its a short 4 minutes video(1 minute advertisement at the beginning).

Video link : http://current.com/shows/countdown/video...ing-wall-street


Short description of the video provided on the site :

"Countdown” contributor Matt Taibbi discusses the impact of populist enthusiasm and President Obama’s adoption of the 99 percent message in terms of a breaking news story about a possible settlement in the ongoing investigation of allegations that some of the largest American banks engaged in foreclosure fraud. Taibbi says the settlement being discussed would leave major banks exposed to criminal investigations. Taibbi speculates as to the potential repercussions of the ruling, saying, “If they do this for real, if they do this like a real, Enron-style investigation, you know, you could have half the luminaries on Wall Street doing prison time.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/26/12 03:57 AM

I'm sure you have been hearing on the news of many top positioned bankers or government people resigning or being arrested. There are thousands that has already taken place and much more to come. Most is not made public. This is the most important step prior to the coming New Global Economic Restructure in 2012 that was announce on Jan 1st on CNM.

Here are some highlights of some of the cleanup steps that has recently taken place :

- Former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi to five years in prison on charges of paying British lawyer David Mills a $600,000 bribe to lie about Berlusconi's business interests.

- The group(Illuminati) that claims to have started the American, French and Russian revolutions state they have issued a March 31st deadline to the committee of 300(Head by queen Elizabeth), according to their spokesman “Alexander Romanoff.”

- Prince Harry has been in touch with the group and has agreed to take over control of the British Royal family from Queen Elizabeth.

- There are signs, such as the resignation of over a dozen senior bankers and the announcement of a $15 trillion fraud in the UK and a $6 trillion fraud in Italy, that these warnings have been taken seriously.

- Ireland, Portugal, Greece and Spain have all told the banks they are not going to pay back any of their loans because the loans were made illegally… these countries are going to “default,” and for a change it will be the bankers
and not the average citizens, who will pay the price.

- The resignation of the heads of the World Bank, Credit Suisse, the Bank of India and “planned resignation” of the head of Goldman Sachs is just the beginning of a complete dismantling of the Khazarian banking monopoly.

- The $6 trillion fraud case in Italy is noteworthy because it is the one of the first such cases major corporate propaganda media outlets have reported worldwide.

- This means that people who were hitherto above the law and above institutions like the Vatican and the UN are no longer immune from arrest.

- The announcement in the UK Upper House by Lord Blackheath that $15 trillion had been stolen from a member of the “Indian-Chinese” royal family by [FRB's] Bernanke… Geithner and “Yusuke Horiguchi”… is a another sign of big change. You can hear Lord Blackhearth speech to the parliament at this link : http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=10093&wfs=true&player=smooth and here’s a transcript and a good analysis of his speech here : http://sirratatap.com/category/banking/2-19-12-corrupt-banking-at-the-highest-levels/

- …“Lord Sassoon.” The Sassoons are one of the families that profited from both the Opium wars and the colonization of Japan… He is expected to be arrested and questioned soon.

- Particular attention is going to be directed at the Pharmaceutical and chemical companies as well as satanic corporations like Microsoft and Monsanto, according to the Pentagon sources.

- Rahm Emmanuel, Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, J. Rockefeller, the Bushes and the various “Neocons,” are also due for arrest, according to
multiple sources.

- The top power brokers in Japan have decided that a revolution will take place… This will not be allowed to happen.

- There is much more this writer(a Canadian named Benjamin Fulford) knows but has been asked to remain silent about. To read more go to His Weekly Geo-Political news at http://benjaminfulford.net/

Bankers Resignation
Here's a few links to news coverage on recent found Bankers resignation. There’s many more but it is labor intensive to list them all that I found. This is only a small tip of the iceberg. Thousands has resigned or been arrested and many more to come.

2-15-12: World Bank President Zoellick Resigns

2-16-12: CFO of ANZ Bank Resigns Amid Turmoil

2-14-12: Nicaragua Central Bank Head Quits Amid Row

2-17-12: Credit Suisse’s Private Bank Chief Asian Economist Tan Resigns

2-18-12: Embarrassment for Merkel as German president resigns in disgrace after trying to bag the press (okay, not a bank president, but a president, noetheless)

2-16-12: Andrew Chick to lead Royal Bank of Scotland’s Australian arm

2-13-12: Kuwait central bank chief resigns amid political tensions

2-15-12: Slovenia’s Two Biggest Banks’ CEOs Step Down as Woes Mount

2-06-12: Dhanlaxmi Bank CEO Amitabh Chaturvedi quits

2-10-12: Tamilnad Mercantile Bank MD resigns

2-17-12: Blankfein out as Goldman Sachs CEO by summer? (not an actual resignation, but a possible pending one)

2-16-12: 7 Arrests in Olympus Scandal Point to Widening Inquiry Into a Cover-Up

2-16-12 : Swiss National Bank chairman’s resignation—A pointer to all regulators in India
2-17-12 : UPDATE: SNB Council President To Leave Central Bank

2-16-12World Bank President Robert Zoellick announces resignation
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/26/12 05:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
- Prince Harry has been in touch with the group and has agreed to take over control of the British Royal family from Queen Elizabeth.

How will he be able to do that when he isn't even next in the line of succession?
Posted By: Colin

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/26/12 08:12 AM

Elle: sorry, but it's all a little wishful. smile

Some facts, but far too much interpretation and guessing. Some of the links provided are someone's fanciful opinion, nothing more. cool

Whatever Obama is up to, the Queen is a good lady, and Prince Harry is a good career officer, a Captain by now. smile

As for more money to the poorer people, there's more money in some hands, now, simply because the 1st world countries have been making money for longer than 3rd world countries. Re-inventing money for anyone in particular won't make it flow faster...! Hard work and thinking well of your neighbour is the secret.

Welfare - making money and giving it to the less well off, will never create lasting properity, any prosperity!

The less well off, materially - poorer countries, need to work harder a little longer - every millionaire began small!

Btw, the alternative agendas, whether good or bad, don't tend to happen anymore: while we wait for the kingdom of heaven, by grace through faith, achieving better conditions in this world takes patience and hard work, not trying to rewrite the recipe for happiness, generally. I shan't go into specifics. smile
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/26/12 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl F
Originally Posted By: Elle
- Prince Harry has been in touch with the group and has agreed to take over control of the British Royal family from Queen Elizabeth.

How will he be able to do that when he isn't even next in the line of succession?


I don't know the specifics Daryl. This is what is reported by Benjamin Fulford who is working for the 130 countries alliances and is involved in the specifics in gettings the evidences and filing court cases.

Prince Harry is the third in line and still a very close blood relative of the Royal Family. Probably Charles and William has participated in illegal activities like the Queen and because of their hands being dirty and their unwillingness to change, they have resign to take up the throne knowing that the truth would get expose and loose it anyway.

This is how people get the opportunity to resign instead of going to jail. The reality are that the illegal deals, fraud, theft, murdering, and etc... are all being known with enough evidence to put lots of people to jail.

There is lots of corruptions in the upper level because they have been able to get away with it for so many years thinking they would never be able to get touch. However, the wind has changed and nobody is immune anymore.

Whoever has contributed in oppressing the people has two choices, i)either they change their ways, or ii)resign. If they continue in their illegal activities, they will get arrested and procecuted by the interpol and jailed. So resignation is a better option for many then going to jail.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/26/12 05:09 PM

I appreciate the reply Colin.
Originally Posted By: Colin
Elle: sorry, but it's all a little wishful. smile

Some facts, but far too much interpretation and guessing. Some of the links provided are someone's fanciful opinion, nothing more. cool
Most of the links are actual news report. There's no interpretation in all the resignations and the Silvio arrest. Those are all facts. The only two links that you may be referring as interpretation and guessing is Benjamin Fulford's geo-political news and the commitee of 300.

I had never heard of the committee of 300 until I read that link. Just because I never heard of it, it doesn't mean it is not true. And concerning Benjamin Fulford's cases that I have posted at the beginning of this discussion, the case is real and in court.

Originally Posted By: Colin
Whatever Obama is up to, the Queen is a good lady, and Prince Harry is a good career officer, a Captain by now. smile
You know the Queen personally?

Originally Posted By: Colin
As for more money to the poorer people, there's more money in some hands, now, simply because the 1st world countries have been making money for longer than 3rd world countries. Re-inventing money for anyone in particular won't make it flow faster...! Hard work and thinking well of your neighbour is the secret.
I do agree that hard work and doing good to your neighbor is a very important key. But there is such things as having people's spirit depressed and bringing on demorilization when they often experience corruption and hopelessness. There's a lot of corruption at the upper level that their actions and decisions oppresses the mass even of the 1st world countries. Did you hear about 99% protesting all over the world? Do you think they are complaining for nothing?

Maybe it is not like that in England with the "good lady", but many other countries are not in your shoes. Maybe you have a high paying job and don't realize others might have different circumstances than you.

There is oppression and suppression by those in power. There was massive illegal foreclosers in properties in the US, high taxes, high prices, high interest, media brainwashing, manipulation, etc... in many countries.

Did you know that 26 Trillions US dollars was passed from 2007 to 2010 supposively help the economy. Do you know where largely the money went? To the Banks/Bankers. If the Fed had extended $26 trillion in credit to the American people instead of Wall Street, would there be 24 million Americans today who can’t find a full-time job?

Originally Posted By: Colin
Welfare - making money and giving it to the less well off, will never create lasting properity, any prosperity!

The less well off, materially - poorer countries, need to work harder a little longer - every millionaire began small!
There is such things as an unfavorable environment that limits the chances for an enterpreneur to make that million let alone to cover their cost to stay in business.

Originally Posted By: colin
Btw, the alternative agendas, whether good or bad, don't tend to happen anymore: while we wait for the kingdom of heaven, by grace through faith, achieving better conditions in this world takes patience and hard work, not trying to rewrite the recipe for happiness, generally. I shan't go into specifics. smile
Well, maybe we have it wrong thinking the coming kingdom of G-d is in heaven. Maybe that's why we became so indifferent and we sit in the pews waiting.

Tell me, the stone that struck the feet of the statue, did it grow to fill all heaven or the earth?

Dan 2:35 "Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth. "
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/12/12 04:41 PM

Someone named Gabriel is taking account of all the recent resignations on Facebook. So below is his list up to now that he is aware. There's more than what he gathered on this list.

This is not a typical incidence with this high number occurrences all happening in a month or two lapse. This is proof that there is an actual cleanup behind the scene currently which is directed by the 130+ alliances countries(by which I think Canada has recently joined which I've read somewhere but need to find that source and double check) and the Asian group.

It is something to take note and discuss about.

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Sovereign Network News
Real News. Real Sovereigns.
http://sovereignty-press.net/news/2012/03/08/153-resignations-from-world-banks-and-counting/

153 FISH NETTED IN WORLD BANK RESIGNATIONS…

For your notification and awakening to this unusual occurance..(you form your own opinions) on this updated list from 3/7/12 that demonstrates a continued, huge amounts of resignations. Special thanks to Gabriel of Facebook GLOBAL MASS RESIGNATIONS for the heads up on a number of new banking resignations.. Gabriel will be tracking Insurance, Government and Healthcare Resignations. There’s been a large number of Healthcare resignations lately.

It is the opinion of many that this maybe the clearing that many of the messages spoke of, prior to the age of prosperity for everyone.

153 RESIGNATIONS FROM WORLD BANKS, INVESTMENT HOUSES, MONEY FUNDS
1.9/01/11 (USA NY) Bank of New York Mellon Chief Robert P. Kelly Resigns in a Shake-UP
http://goo.gl/NdW7q
2.09/20/11 (SCOTLAND) SCOTTISH WIDOWS (RETIREMENT INVESTMENT SAVINGS FUND) There could be no Scottish representative on the board of Lloyds Banking Group, owner of Bank of Scotland, in future after it announced the departure of Lord Sandy Leitch, the chairman of Scottish Widows and group deputy chairman.
http://goo.gl/Dx8qs
3.9/25/11 (SWITZERLAND) UBS CEO Oswald Gruebel quits over £1.5bn rogue trader crisis
http://goo.gl/WCeqB
4.9/28/11 (SWITZERLAND) SNB Bank Council: Fritz Studer resigns as per end-April 2012
http://goo.gl/7dNiD
5.10/29/11 (CHINA) China Construction Bank Corp Chairman Guo Shuqing resigns
http://goo.gl/fdd9v
6.10/29/11 (CHINA) Agricultural Bank of China Ltd Chairman Xiang Junbo resigns
http://goo.gl/yWX9R
7.11/01/11 (INDIA) More directors of the Beed district bank resign
http://goo.gl/HD8BQ
8.11/02/11 (UK) Lloyds Banking Group chief executive, António Horta-Osório, is to take leave of absence on health grounds for six to eight weeks, the BBC has reported. (STILL OUT AS OF 2/24/12 - DEFACTO RESIGNATION)
http://goo.gl/3L9gE
9.11/4/11 (USA) MF Global, Jon Corzine, stepped down as chairman and CEO, hired criminal attorney to represent him.
http://goo.gl/tUaVY
10.11/21/11 (JAPAN) UBS’s Japan Investment Banking Chairman Matsui to Resign
http://goo.gl/OiDiq
11.11/29/11 (USA) R. David Land Submits Resignation from the Boards of Directors of Peoples Bancorp. and Seneca National Bank
http://goo.gl/XncOc
12.12/15/11 (UK) Senior private banker James Fleming resigns from Coutts [private bank]
http://goo.gl/ANN5B
13.12/23/11 (USA VA) Bank feud: Chairman Mark Giles quits VNB
http://goo.gl/dFDpH
14.12/23/11 (USA VA) Bank feud: Board Member Claire Gargalli quits VNB
http://goo.gl/kowkW
15.12/23/11 (USA VA) Bank feud: Board Member Leslie Disharoon quits VNB
http://goo.gl/kstLp
16.12/23/11 (USA VA) Bank feud: Board Member Neal Kassell quits VNB
http://goo.gl/NrrPZ
17.1/01/12 (NIGERIA) United Bank for Africa Plc Victor Osadolor resigns
http://goo.gl/b6AoA


1.1/01/12 (ISRAEL) Israel’s Bank Leumi CEO Galia Maor steps down after 16 years
http://goo.gl/xwlFt
2.1/03/12 (USA VA) Suffolk Bancorp president and CEO J. Gordon Huszagh steps down
http://goo.gl/joExI
3.1/03/12 (UK) Arbuthnot Banking Group: Neil Kirton resigned from the Board
http://goo.gl/SKE7j
4.1/03/12 (UK) Arbuthnot Banking Group: Atholl Turrell left the Board.
http://goo.gl/bzZtQ
5.1/05/12 (UK) Saunderson House [Private Bank] CEO Nick Fletcher steps down
http://goo.gl/zvo1L
6.1/09/12 (SWITZERLAND) SNB Chairman Philipp Hildebrand resigns
http://goo.gl/5qsUu
7.1/19/12 (SPAIN) Spanish bank Santander’s Americas chief Francisco Luzon quits
http://goo.gl/jEY7Y
8.1/30/12 (UK) Butterfield Private Bank head Danny Dixon Steps Down
http://goo.gl/sdY1p
9.1/20/12 (JAPAN) Normura’s head of wholesale banking Jasjit Bhattai quits
http://goo.gl/6FuWe
10.1/21/12 (Greece) Institute of International Finance negotiator Charles Dallara quits
http://goo.gl/NbPlt
11.1/21/12 (Greece) Institute of International Finance negotiator Jean Lemierre quits
http://goo.gl/E3AkE
12.1/29/12 (NEW ZEALAND) New Zealand Reserve Bank Gov Alan Bollard to Step Down
http://goo.gl/BwUgv
13.1/30/12 (UK) British Private Equity and Venture Capital Association (BVCA) COO Andrew Graham steps down
http://goo.gl/4SDW8
14.1/31/12 (SCOTLAND) Royal Bank of Scotland former CEO Fred Goodwin Stripped of Knighthood
http://goo.gl/CoLVS
15.2/01/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) ABSA [Barclay's Bank] deputy CEO Louis von Zeuner resigns
http://goo.gl/IP8nH
16.2/01/12 (UK) Lloyds Bankging Group head of wholesaleTruett Tate quits
http://goo.gl/OqRVo
17.2/01/12 (UK) Llyods Banking Group Tim Tookey leaving end of February
http://goo.gl/vjO5M
18.2/02/12 (VENEZUELA) Banking Crisis Arne Chacon arrested for Banking Corruption
http://goo.gl/bb5sh
19.2/05/12 (USA – NY) Morgan’s investment banking chairman Joseph Perella quit
http://goo.gl/pG2jF
20.2/05/12 (USA – NY) Morgan Stanley investment banking Tarek Abdel-Meguid quit
http://goo.gl/bRv9K
21.2/06/12 (INDIA) Dhanlaxmi Bank CEO Amitabh Chaturvedi quits:
http://goo.gl/OhCEb
22.2/7/12 (USA) Bank Of America’s Mortgage Business Chief Barbara Desoer Retires
http://goo.gl/i7AUY
23.2/07/12 (INDIA) Kotak Mahindra Bank Falguni Nayar quits
http://goo.gl/fP03J
24.2/07/12 (IRAN) Iran denies central bank resignation rumor (don’t believe until its denied?)
http://goo.gl/PiQSy
25.2/09/12 (VATICAN) Four Priests Charged In Vatican Banking Scandal (names not known)
http://goo.gl/tW8Sj
26.2/9/12 (UKRAINE) National Bank of Ukraine deputy governor Volodymyr Krotiuk quits
http://goo.gl/8BuXy
27.2/10/12 (KOREA) Korea Exchange Bank chief Larry Klane steps down
http://goo.gl/DBKdc
28.2/10/12 (INDIA) Tamilnad Mercantile Bank CEO A K Jagannathan resigns
http://goo.gl/wMl5g
29.2/13/12 (KUWAIT) Kuwait Central Bank CEO Sheikh Salem Abdulaziz Al Sabbah resigns
http://goo.gl/GFvIy
30.2/14/12 (NICARAQUA) Nicaraqua Central Bank President Antenor Rosales resigns
http://goo.gl/iQ0n8
31.2/14/12 (UK) Social finance pioneer Malcolm Hayday quits Charity Bank
http://goo.gl/uHp6C
32.2/14/12 (PAKISTAN) National Bank of Pakistan (NBP) chairman Syed Ali Raza resigned
http://goo.gl/scexo
33.2/15/12 (WORLD) World Bank CEO Zoellick resigns
http://goo.gl/dHDSm
Did the White House tell the World Bank president that he’s out?
http://goo.gl/wUOgb
34.2/15/12 (SLOVENIA) Nova Kreditna Banka Maribor CEO Andrej Plos resigns
http://goo.gl/SNsVI
35.2/15/12 (SLOVENIA) Nova Ljubljanska Banka d.d. CEO Bozo Jasovic resigns
http://goo.gl/TyYiJ
36.2/16/12 (UK) The Financial Services Authority Margaret Cole is to step down
http://goo.gl/yT6rS
37.2/16/12 (GHANA) Databank Group Executive Chair Ken Ofori-Atta steps down
http://goo.gl/c7PtU
38.2/16/12 (SAUDI ARABIA) Saudi Hollandi Banks Managing Director Geoffrey Calvert Quits
http://goo.gl/CtmOU
39.2/16/12 (AUSTRALIA) ANZ Bank Australia CFO Peter Marriott resigns
http://goo.gl/I7Alo
40.2/16/12 (UK) Royal Bank of Scotland Sr Equities Trader Jason Edinburgh Arrested
http://goo.gl/WczHh
41.2/16/12 (UK) Royal Bank of Scotland director equities bus. Vincent Walsh director Arrested
http://goo.gl/I7Alo
42.2/16/12 (UK) Marex Spectron senior trader Michael Elsom Arrested
http://goo.gl/I7Alo
43.2/16/12 (AUSTRALIA) Royal Bank of Scotland Austrailan CEO Stephen Williams resigns
http://goo.gl/4r16D
44.2/17/12 (USA) Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein out as by summer
http://goo.gl/UjpzD
45.2/17/12 (SWITZERLAND) SNB Council President Hansueli Raggenbass resigns
http://goo.gl/1n1Nr
46.2/18/12 (PAKISTAN) The Bank of Azad Jammu & Kashmir executive Zulfiqar Abbasi [url=resignshttp://goo.gl/G0woP]resignshttp://goo.gl/G0woP[/url]
47.2/20/12 (RUSSIA) Head of Russian Bank Regulator Gennady Melikyan Steps Down
http://goo.gl/Unuez
48.2/20/12 (SWITZERLAND) Credit Suisse Chief Joseph Tan resigns
http://goo.gl/F5twL
49.2/20/12 (ISRAEL) Bank Leumi le-Israel Ltd: Zvi Itskovitch resigns
http://goo.gl/aA0RW
50.2/20/12 (USA WA) First Financial Northwest Director Spencer Schneider Quits
http://goo.gl/6Dj0i
51.2/21/12 (ARGENTINA) Central Bank of Argentina (BCRA) Gen Mgr Benigno Velez, resigns
http://goo.gl/DuMrm
52.2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Nitol Insurance Co. Ltd director Abdul Matlub resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
53.2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Nitol Insurance Co. Ltd director Selima Ahmad resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
54.2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Nitol Insurance Co. Ltd director Abdul Musabbir Ahmad resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
55.2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) City General Insurance Co. Ltd director Geasuddin Ahmad resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
56.2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Social Islami Bank Limited director Taslima Akter resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on Eastland Insurance Company Limited
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
57.2/21/12 (JAPAN) CITIBANK JAPAN: Bakhshi is taking over duties from Brian Mccappin, who the bank said in December would resign after the unit was banned for two weeks from trading tied to the London and Tokyo interbank offered rates.
http://goo.gl/Z1rnw
58.2/22/12 (HONG KONG) DZ BANK project finance head Tim Meaney quits
http://goo.gl/ppKno
59.2/22/12 (USA) Goldman Sachs Hedge Fund Group Chief Howard Wietschner to Retire
http://goo.gl/x4Zsr
60.2/23/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) Richard Gush resigns from Standard Bank
http://goo.gl/DTL5S
61.2/23/12 (SCOTLAND) Royal Bank of Scotland Group director John McFarlane resigns.
http://goo.gl/KoEUI
62.2/24/12 (INDIA) Breaking: ICICI Bank GC Pramod Rao resigns
http://goo.gl/5eUqU
63.2/24/12 (HONG KONG) Citigroup Pvt Bank Global Real Estate Kwang Meng Quek Resigns
http://goo.gl/JIC9A
64.2/24/12 (NEW ZEALAND) FSF Executive Director Kirk Hope resigns
http://goo.gl/6UJau
65.2/24/12 (USA) Evercore Partners Head Eduardo Mestre steps down
http://goo.gl/n5RLY
66.2/25/12 (AUSTRALIA AND NZ) Goldman Sachs Chairman Stephen Fitzgerald quits
http://goo.gl/nMTLW
67.2/27/12 (GERMANY) Deutsche Bank Americas chief Seth Waugh steps down
http://goo.gl/8lxSw
68.2/27/12 (BAHRAIN) Khaleeji Commercial Bank CEO Ebrahim Ebrahim quits
http://goo.gl/yKjzL
69.2/27/12 (FRANCE) Societe Generale’s Investment Banking Chief Michel Péretié Steps Down
http://goo.gl/IJ5Lw
70.2/27/12 (MALAYSIA) Elaf Bank CEO Dr El Jaroudi resigns
http://goo.gl/eVCS5
71.2/27/12 (INDIA) Kotak Mahindra Bank Ms Falguni Nayar Quits
http://goo.gl/pTbII
72.2/27/12 (GERMANY) Equiduct chairman Artur Fischersteps down
http://goo.gl/Q0dWR
73.2/27/12 (BAHRAIN) – Mumtalakat Holding [Sovereign Wealth Fund] CEO Al Zain resigns
http://goo.gl/hhHSm
74.2/27/12 (IRAN) Bank Melli CEO Mahmoud Reza Khaavari Resigns – Flees to Canada!
http://goo.gl/DDEUk
75.2/27/12 (IRAN) Bank Saderat CEO Mohammad Jahromi resigns
http://goo.gl/ZD0mc
76.2/27/12 (UK) Lloyds Banking Group Glen Moreno steps down
http://goo.gl/dsXcE
77.2/28/12 (HONG KONG) Hang Seng Bank CEO Margaret Leung Ko May-yee quits
http://goo.gl/Uo800
78.2/28/12 (CHINA) Bank of China International ECM global head Marshall Nicholson quits
http://goo.gl/26MYq
79.2/28/12 (SINGAPORE) DBS security head Jim Pasqurell quits, cites health reasons
http://goo.gl/NDJze
80.2/28/12 (HONG KONG) Bank of America’s Asia-Pac. mrkts Brian Canniffe quits
http://goo.gl/cRkCP
81.2/28/12 (BELGIUM) KBC’s CEO Jan Vanhevel is to retire after a career spanning 41 years.
http://goo.gl/1rCWd
82.2/28/12 (CANADA) Ontario Securities Commission chairwoman Peggy-Anne Brown quits
http://goo.gl/HIYXv
83.2/28/12 (AUSTRALIA) Bank manager Colin John Carleton jailed nine years for $3m theft
http://goo.gl/ggPvq
84.2/28/12 (SRI LANKA) Sri Lanka Com Bank CEO Amitha Gooneratne retires
http://goo.gl/YxvNA
85.2/28/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) REDEFINE INCOME FUND director Gerald Leissner resigns
http://goo.gl/F0UgN
86.2/28/12 (ITALY) UNICREDIT: Chairman Dieter Rampl not available for a new mandate
http://goo.gl/7aLRU
87.2/28/12 (UK) Bank of England Sir David Lees re-appointed Chair of Bank of England and gives notice of resignation at end of 2013
http://goo.gl/LkJhV
88.2/28/12 (IRELAND) State Street Global Advisors Cash Funds plc Director Keith [url=Walshresignshttp://goo.gl/n6uoM]Walshresignshttp://goo.gl/n6uoM[/url]
89.2/29/12 (AUSTRALIA) Perpetual portfolio manager Matt Williams steps down
http://goo.gl/Jh9jd
90.2/29/12 (UK) Honister Capital CEO Richard Pearson steps down
http://goo.gl/014or
91.2/29/12 (GUYANA) National Investment and Commercial Investments Ltd. (NICIL), Executive Director Winston Brassington resigns, “We feel that (Winston) Brassington knows everything…A to Z about all the transactions,” said Chairman of the Alliance for Change (AFC), Khemraj Ramjattan, as he sounded a warning that controversial figure could be subpoenaed to appear before the Parliamentary Economic Sector Committee.
http:// goo.gl/L7I35
92.3/1/12 (MALAYSIA) RHB Bank Bhd deputy managing director Renzo Viegas quits
http://goo.gl/wACrI
93.3/1/12 (ITALY) Italian Banking Association Chairman Giuseppe Mussari talks to reporters in Rome after he and seven other executives offered to resign in protest over new banking-fee rules included in the government’s legislation on boosting competition.
http://goo.gl/3llyT
94.3/1/12 (USA FL) Florida Venture Forum [Venture Capital] Exec Dir Robin Lester quits
http://goo.gl/nA8g9
95.3/1/12 (USA) PineBridge Investments said Win Neugerhas resigned as chief executive. Neuger helped build AIG’s third party asset management business, PineBridge still manages AIG [url=assetshttp://goo.gl/SI7kT]assetshttp://goo.gl/SI7kT[/url]
96.3/1/12 (SINGAPORE) UBS Singapore – James Tulley is leaving Switzerland’s largest bank, it is not clear where he is going.
http://goo.gl/BGugF
97.3/1/12 (USA NH) Piscataqua Savings Bank CEO Jay Gibson retires
http://goo.gl/uEqDV
98.3/1/12 (ICELAND) Iceland’s Financial Supervisory Authority (FSA) fired its director Gunnar Andersen
http://goo.gl/VG9q5
99.3/2/12 (CHINA) China Construction Bank Corp, the assistant general manager and head of corporate banking Mickey Mehta quits
http://goo.gl/B9dR0
100.3/2/12 (USA) Deutsche Bank Student Loan CEOJohn Hupalo quits to start student loan counseling firm.
http://goo.gl/8kZuc
101.3/2/12 (UK) Bank of England Sir Mervin King resigns in June, Lord Sassoon tipped as replacement.
http://goo.gl/ZEUwf
102.3/2/12 (BOTSWANA) Barclays Bank Botswana managing director Wilfred Mpai forced to resign
http://goo.gl/npBe2
103.3/2/12 (HONG KONG) New Century Group Hong Kong Ltd [investment house and leisure group] Wilson Ng resigns
http://goo.gl/wFSV8
104.3/2/12 (USA) Citigroup Richard Parsons to step down as chairman
http://goo.gl/BhZ0F
105.3/3/12 (AUSTRIA) Volksbank AG (VBAG) The contract of CEO Gerald Wenzel will not be extended
http://goo.gl/w99tD
106.3/3/12 (ETHIOPIA) Dashen Bank’s board dismisses president Leulseged Teferi
http://goo.gl/Y801M
107.3/3/12 (RUSSIA) Enza Capital KK, Wealthy British banker Philip Townsend (Baron Townsend of Rathmore) and his wife
killed at Estonia holiday home
http://goo.gl/GSOUN and http://goo.gl/x94ID and http://goo.gl/gGgLP
108.3/4/12 (KOREA) Hana Financial Group Inc, prominent figure in the history of South Korean finance Kim Seung-yu , resigns
http://goo.gl/fmNxY
109.3/4/12 (USA) JP Morgan prop trading chief Mike Stewart quits
http://goo.gl/gubPj
110.3/5/12 ( SAUDI ARABIA) Al Rajhi Bank CEO Abdullah bin Sulaiman Al Rajhi has resigned
http://goo.gl/pNx0l
111.3/5/12 (UK) Jupiter fund co-manager Tony Nutt steps down
http://goo.gl/RPqOp
112.3/5/12 (UK) Jupiter fund co-manager John Hamilton steps down
http://goo.gl/RPqOp
113.3/5/12 (NEW ZEALAND) Insured Group Bill Jeffries has resigned as chairman and director
http://goo.gl/gX7wu
114.3/5/12 (USA) Reliance Bancshares chairman Patrick Gideon resigned
http://goo.gl/u6BT4
115.3/6/12 (FRANCE) Blackstone Group’s Paris office leader Jean-Michel Steg will step down
http://goo.gl/w3Ca5
116.3/6/12 (JAMAICA) Jamaica Money Market Brokers Limited, Patricia Sutherland has resigned as Executive Director
http://goo.gl/oMwv6
117.3/6/12 (JAMAICA) Jamaica’s Financial Services Commission (FSC), Executive director Rohan Barnett, has resigned the position, the Ministry of Finance, Planning and the Public Service announced this afternoon.
http://goo.gl/FBwFo
118.3/6/12 (USA) USA Technologies Inc Bradley M. Tirpak, a nominee of Shareholder Advocates for Value Enhancement, has resigned from its board subsequent to a settlement agreement with the investing group, according to an SEC filing.
http://goo.gl/8oi7C
119.3/6/12 (UK) Sterling Green Group has announced that Philip Kanas, a non-executive director, has decided to resign
Sterling Green Group PLC became a cash shell following the disposal of their subsidiaries Taxdebts Ltd, Sterling Green (Mortgages) Ltd and the back books of the clients of Sterling Green Ltd. during December 2011.
http://goo.gl/qc3jB
120.3/7/12 (GERMANY) Deutsche Bank AG’s (DB) Chief Risk Officer Hugo Baenzigeri to resign
http://goo.gl/MWqsH
121.3/7/12 (GERMANY) Deutsche Bank AG’s (DB) Chief Operating Officer Hermann-Josef Lamberti to resign
http://goo.gl/MWqsH
122.3/7/12 (UNITED ARAB EMIRATES) Dubai Mercantile Exchange announced Thomas Leaver will step down as CEO
http://goo.gl/rfhWN
123.3/7/12 (SCOTLAND) Macfarlane Group Chairman Archie Hunter to step down after 8 years of service
http://goo.gl/RHllr
124.3/7/12 (USA) BlackRock Emerging Markets Fund co-head Daniel Tubbs, has left the group to pursue other opportunities.
http://goo.gl/CpEzZ
125.3/7/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs (GSI) Christopher French resigns from board
http://goo.gl/3yQDS
126.3/7/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs (GSI) David Wildermuth resigns from board
http://goo.gl/3yQDS
127.3/7/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs (GSI) Matthew Westerman resigns from board
http://goo.gl/3yQDS
128.3/7/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs (GSI) co-head of global mergers and acquisitions Yoel Zaoui resigns
http://goo.gl/3yQDS
129.3/7/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs (GSI) Phil Beatty resigned as head of European power and natural-gas trading
http://goo.gl/jqbYY
130.3/7/12 (SINGAPORE) Nikko Asset Management Timothy McCarthy is retiring as chairman and CEO at the end of the month
http://goo.gl/v8tcT
131.3/7/12 (HONG KONG) UBS Senior Asia Economist Jonathan Anderson Departs
http://goo.gl/09VqT
132.3/7/12 (HAITI) FORMER DIRECTOR HAITI CENTRAL BANK SLAIN!
http://goo.gl/UtVz3
133.3/7/12 (FRANCE) Société Générale Private Banking, Daniel Truchi is to step down as head of Société Générale Private Banking http://goo.gl/XhgJ9
134.3/7/12 (AUSTRALIA) Customers Ltd, Tim Wildash has cashed himself out as chief executive of Australia’s largest ATM operator
http://goo.gl/eZJMb
135.3/7/12 (USA CA) CALSTRS, Pascal Villiger, senior private equity portfolio manager at the $145 billion California State Teachers’ Retirement System resigns
http://goo.gl/ub0ke
136.3/7/12 (USA) Astaire quits Bank of America Merrill to dance to Barclays Capital’s tune
http://goo.gl/Zv6Ny
Addendum:
It is not known under what circumstances these individuals have left their positions, I make no judgement on that. I find the timing of so many resignations extremely curious and a temporal marker in history of high significance. No one should assume I make any judgement about the character of these people. I frankly don’t know their reputations except for a few rather famous ones.
This list includes Banks, Investment Houses, Sovereign Wealth Funds, Equity Funds, Savings Retirement Funds and other shadow banking organizations. The line is very blurry between these entities, some are owned by banks some are banks, some invest in banks as well as owning entire industries (common in Hong Kong and Japan).
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/13/12 06:11 PM

I found an updated list, the number is 320 Resignations in the Financial sector only which most took place in just the last month.

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Updated 3/13/12 Special thanks to Gabriel at http://www.facebook.com/MassResignations for tracking Insurance, Government and Healthcare Resignations. Also special thanks to Sophie who has kept me very busy with some very good URLs.

320 RESIGNATIONS FROM WORLD BANKS, INVESTMENT HOUSES, MONEY FUNDS

I don't mind if you re-blog this listing. Save yourself the wear and tear on your karma and do me the favor of including http://americankabuki.blogspot.com in your reposting. Thanks to all who have caught minor errors. Special thank to Gabriel at Facebook Global Mass Resignations for some resignations I did not find in my searches.

Abreviations used:
CEO = Chief Executive Officer, CFO = Chief Financial Officer, CIO = Chief Investment Officer, COO = Chief Operating Officer
INC = Incorporated (can be private held or publically traded shares)
PLC = Public Limited Company (publicly traded shares can be listed or unlisted on stock market)
LTD = Limited Company (privately held)
LLC = American version of LTD, but can have a shareholder/member that is an INC, often hybrids of both
AG = German version of PLC
AB = Swedish version of PLC
SA = Society Anonymous in various latin languages - same as PLC
NV = Dutch version of PLC
BV = Dutch version of LTD
LP = Limited Partners (partnership with limited liability)
REIT = Real Estate Investment Trust

1. 9/01/11 (USA NY) Bank of New York Mellon Chief Robert P. Kelly Resigns in a Shake-UP
http://goo.gl/NdW7q
2. 9/06/11 (BELGIUM) Dexia confirmed that its CEO Stefaan Decraene had left the company. Its exposures to sovereign debt in the PIIGS nations are larger than its core Tier 1 capital.
http://goo.gl/vuhvd
3. 9/09/11 (GERMANY) European Central Bank (ECB) governing board member Jürgen Stark, who has resigned
http://goo.gl/t83S4
4. 9/12/11 (HONG KONG) HSBC Group Hang Seng Bank Non-Executive Director Mark McCombe resigns
http://goo.gl/mCTgi
5. 9/14/11 (USA NJ) Columbia Bank CEO Raymond G. Hallock Announces Retirement
http://goo.gl/UjUZY
6. 9/15/11 (USA NY) Morgan Stanley, Chairman John Mack resigns
http://goo.gl/jWWv7
7. 9/18/11 (JORDAN) Central Bank governor Faris Sharaf resigns over policy
http://goo.gl/8yU5N
8. 9/20/11 (SCOTLAND) SCOTTISH WIDOWS (RETIREMENT INVESTMENT SAVINGS FUND) There could be no Scottish representative on the board of Lloyds Banking Group, owner of Bank of Scotland, in future after it announced the departure of Lord Sandy Leitch, the chairman of Scottish Widows and group deputy chairman.
http://goo.gl/Dx8qs
9. 9/21/11 (AUSTRALIA & NZ) JP Morgan Australia and New Zealand Worldwide Securities Services CEO Jane Perry resigned
http://goo.gl/Qx0Va
10. 9/25/11 (SWITZERLAND) UBS CEO Oswald Gruebel quits over £1.5bn rogue trader crisis
http://goo.gl/WCeqB
11. 9/25/11 (USA CA) Douglas E. Tow, Executive Vice President and Chief Credit Officer, will retire from the Company http://goo.gl/24aAU
12. 9/28/11 (SWITZERLAND) SNB Bank Council: Fritz Studer resigns as per end-April 2012
http://goo.gl/7dNiD
13. 9/29/11 (JAPAN) BLIFE Investment Corporation, Asset Manager Director Masaomi Yamadaira resigned.
http://goo.gl/Vsmk3
14. 9/29/11 (UK) Barclays, Head of UK & European Retail Banking Deanna Oppenheimer resigned.
http://goo.gl/o63jO
15. 9/29/11 (USA NM) New Mexico Pension Fund Director Terry Slattery Resigns
http://goo.gl/BzLn4
16. 10/01/11 (USA MO) Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City President Thomas M. Hoenig retired on Oct. 1, 2011
http://goo.gl/B8WK7
17. 10/03/11 (INDIA) The of Euram Bank Asia, president Arun Panchariya, has resigned after being implicated in a stock trading scandal in India.
http://goo.gl/yh2bF
18. 10/03/11 (GHANA) Intercontinental Bank Ghana Limited, Managing Director and CEO Albert Mmegwa resigned.
http://goo.gl/Vc252
19. 10/03/11 (USA FL) Quantek Opportunity Fund, portfolio manager Javier Guerra. Arbitration awarded $1 million damages to Aris Multi-Strategy Fund. Quantek Asset Management made false statements to Aris.
http://goo.gl/udpBA
20. 10/05/11 (UK) UBS co-chief François Gouws of global equities had resigned after last month’s revelation of a $2.3 billion loss from unauthorized trading.
http://goo.gl/OuUjr
21. 10/05/11 (UK) UBS co-chief Yassine Bouhara of global equities had resigned after last month’s revelation of a $2.3 billion loss from unauthorized trading.
http://goo.gl/OuUjr
22. 10/10/11 (BELGIUM) Dexia (Franco-Belgian bank) its chairman Jean-Luc Dehaene will give up his role on the board of Dexia's Belgian division, which is being sold to the Belgian state as part of a rescue deal, the group said on Monday.
http://goo.gl/vyldE
23. 10/11/11 (UK) Dynamic Funds, portfolio manager David Taylor has resigned.
http://goo.gl/GZCt5
24. 10/11/11 (CHINA) China Construction Bank Non-Executive Direct Sue Yang resigns for personal reasons.
http://goo.gl/ip8Un
25. 10/13/11 (UK) Cogent Partners co-head research department Katita Palamar resigned.
http://goo.gl/TVLWO
26. 10/13/11 (UK) Cogent Partners co-head research department Bill Farrell resigned.
http://goo.gl/TVLWO
27. 10/14/11 (USA TX) Deutsche Bank Investment Advisor Griffin Perry resigns, SEC regulations prevented him from campaigning for his father Rick Perry's Presidential campaign.
http://goo.gl/R0PgH
28. 10/23/11 (USA) Fairholme Capital Management LLC, Director Charles Fernandez stepped down for personal reasons. Fairholme Fund has lost 26 percent of its net asset value due to bets that have backfired on AIG Inc, Bank of America Corp and Florida-based landowner and developer St Joe Co.
http://goo.gl/vzTbY
29. 10/24/11 (ICELAND) Icelandic State Financial Investments board members of Icelandic State Financial Investments have resigned following “outside interference” with their Sept. 30 decision to hire Pall Magnusson, the former political adviser to the island’s industry minister, as chief executive officer. [names and positions have been requested from the reporter on 3/9/12]
http://goo.gl/lEpz2
30. 10/24/11 (SINGAPORE) Keppel Corporation Limited, Teo Soon Hoe will resign from his role as group finance director Jan 1.
http://goo.gl/l90be
31. 10/26/11 (INDIA) Beed District Bank (Coop Bank) CEO B S Deshmukh arrested for embezzling Maharashtra State Electricity Distribution Company Ltd payment deposits.
http://goo.gl/CXL7Z
32. 10/26/11 (INDIA) Beed District Bank (Coop Bank) former CEO A N Kulkarni arrested for embezzling Maharashtra State Electricity Distribution Company Ltd payment deposits.
http://goo.gl/CXL7Z
33. 10/27/11 (USA NY) Keefe, Bruyette & Woods Inc (KBW) CEO John Duffy stepped aside. Duffy has prostate cancer.
http://goo.gl/i1s3E
34. 10/29/11 (CHINA) China Construction Bank Corp Chairman Guo Shuqing resigns
http://goo.gl/fdd9v
35. 10/29/11 (CHINA) Agricultural Bank of China Ltd Chairman Xiang Junbo resigns
http://goo.gl/yWX9R
36. 10/31/11 (EUROPEAN COMMUNITY) European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet, resigns.
http://goo.gl/ygG59
37. 11/01/11 (INDIA) Beed District Bank (Coop Bank More directors resign [research still being conducted on the names]
http://goo.gl/HD8BQ
38. 11/02/11 (UK) Lloyds Banking Group chief executive, António Horta-Osório, is to take leave of absence on health grounds for six to eight weeks, the BBC has reported. (STILL OUT AS OF 2/24/12 - DEFACTO RESIGNATION)
http://goo.gl/3L9gE
39. 11/03/11 (POLAND) Nordea Bank Poland, Wlodzimierz Kicinski resigned from as President of the Management Board of Nordea Bank Poland as of the 10th of November.
http://goo.gl/oKUVZ
40. 11/04/11 (USA NY) MF Global, Jon Corzine, stepped down as chairman and CEO, hired criminal attorney to represent him.
http://goo.gl/tUaVY
41. 11/08/11 (SINGAPORE) The Singapore Fund, Inc, Austin C. Dowling has resigned as Director of the Fund
http://goo.gl/bCUhI
42. 11/10/11 (EUROPEAN COMMUNITY) European Central Bank Lorenzo Bini Smaghi resigned from the European Central Bank’s Executive Board.
http://goo.gl/Invjc
43. 11/11/11 (HONG KONG) Goldman Sachs' Asia Pacific co-head Yusuf Alireza is retiring from the investment bank after 19 years
http://goo.gl/pejs3
44. 11/10/11 (INDIA) UBS The head of India operations at UBS AG , Manisha Girotra, has resigned
http://goo.gl/3aTh2
45. 11/15/11 (USA NY) Icahn Enterprises LP, senior managing director of health-care investing, Alex Denner, has resigned.
http://goo.gl/X1A4i
46. 11/16/11 (EUROPEAN COMMUNITY) International Monetary Fund Europe, director Antonio Borges resigns for personal reasons.
http://goo.gl/55CqZ
47. 11/17/11 (NETHERLANDS) Syntrus Achmea (pensions manager), CIO Marjolein Sol is resigning.
http://goo.gl/Xqxsr
48. 11/18/11 (SCOTLAND) Scottish Widows Investment Partnership Limited (SWIP) Private Equity Fund, wish to announce the resignation of John Brett from the Board of Directors of the Company, for business reasons.
http://goo.gl/MLsp8
49. 11/21/11 (JAPAN) UBS’s Japan Investment Banking Chairman Matsui to Resign
http://goo.gl/OiDiq
50. 11/23/12 (USA SC & NC) Bank of the Carolinas, CFO Eric Rhodes resigns for personal reasons. Bank of the Carolinas was delisted from the NASDAQ on 3/9/12
http://goo.gl/oytcD
51. 11/28/11 (LATVIA) Latvia’s chief banking regulator, Irena Krumane, said she resigned today, a week after the state took over Latvijas Krajbanka AS (LKB1R), the Baltic News Service reported. The bank regulator suspended operations at Krajbanka, a subsidiary of Lithuania’s Bankas Snoras AB, on Nov. 21 and said around 100 million lati ($191.8 million) was missing. The Lithuanian government seized Snoras on Nov. 16 saying assets reported on the lender’s balance sheet were missing.
http://goo.gl/mUvLF
52. 11/29/11 (USA) R. David Land Submits Resignation from the Boards of Directors of Peoples Bancorp. and Seneca National Bank
http://goo.gl/XncOc
53. 11/29/11 (NORWAY) Carnegie ASA’s co-head of investment banking in Norway, Cato Holmsen, has resigned
http://goo.gl/utIfy
54. 11/30/11 (LITHUANIA) Lithuania Central Bank, Governor Vitas Vasiliauskas fired Kazimieras Ramonas, head of the banking supervision department, after seizing Bankas Snoras AB, the country’s third-biggest deposit bank.
http://goo.gl/EiqUC
55. 12/01/11 (SRI LANKA) Sri Lanka's Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) head Indrani Sugathadasa resigned.
http://goo.gl/6qzny
56. 12/02/11 (PAKISTAN) NIB Bank, Singapore forced resignation of CEO Khawaja Iqbal Hassan, for mismanagement
http://goo.gl/ojDcu
57. 12/03/11 (USA SC) South Carolina's $25 billion pension fund chief investor Robert Borden resigned. Borden's resignation comes as the SC Retirement System faces a $13 billion deficit, prompting state lawmakers to call for a massive overhaul of the system.
http://goo.gl/ypK2G
58. 12/05/11 (BERMUDA) HSBC Bermuda Ltd, chairman of the board and director John Campbell resigns
http://goo.gl/peFGD
59. 12/05/11 (BERMUDA) HSBC Bermuda Ltd, CEO Philip Butterfield retires
http://goo.gl/peFGD
60. 12/06/11 (USA ) Western Liberty Bancorp CFO George Rosenbaum has resigned.
http://goo.gl/ozuwB
61. 12/08/11 (USA) Fidelity Global Special Situations Fund, manager Jorma Korhonen resigned.
http://goo.gl/a7Rhw
62. 12/08/11 (INDIA) Nomura's co-head of equity-linked solutions Neeraj Hora, resigns
http://goo.gl/WYcjR
63. 12/14/11 (MAURITIUS) African Alliance Africa Pioneer Fund I (the "Fund"), Portfolio Manager Paul David Austin Clark resigned
http://goo.gl/YiagF
64. 12/14/11 (USA NY) Goldman Sachs global head Milton R. Berlinski retiring at the end of the year
http://goo.gl/Xj0l4
65. 12/15/11 (UK) Coutts [private bank] Senior private banker James Fleming resigns
http://goo.gl/ANN5B
66. 12/19/11 (CANADA) Holloway Lodging Real Estate Investment Trust (a REIT) CEO Glenn Squires has resigned
http://goo.gl/8rAKb
67. 12/19/11 (JAPAN) Citibank Japan CEO, Darren Buckley, resigns after Citibank was punished by regulators for the third time in seven years.
http://goo.gl/ScT47
68. 12/19/11 (DENMARK) Danske Bank Peter Straarup, who will retire February 15
http://goo.gl/06c2b
69. 12/19/11 (DENMARK) Danske Bank Eivind Kolding has resigned as Chairman of the Board of Directors and from the three board committees on which he served, He continues as member of Danske Bank’s Board of Directors until he assumes the position of Chairman of the Executive Board on 15 February 2012. On the same day, at the latest, Eivind Kolding will resign from the A.P. Moller-Maersk Group.
http://goo.gl/06c2b
70. 12/20/11 (UK) Prudential (UK) Chairman Harvey McGrath has informed the Board of his intention to retire from the Board in 2012 once a successor has been found.
http://goo.gl/IPOzf
71. 12/20/11 (USA MA) Century Bancorp, Inc., Director Roger S. Berkowitz resigned.
http://goo.gl/bbdeT
72. 12/21/11 (USA MN) Voyager Bank, fired CEO trade accusations, New details have emerged in Voyager Bank's firing of its CEO in a court filing that accuses him of defrauding the bank of $15 million. The former CEO, Timothy Owens, has sued the bank for wrongful termination and accused the bank of defaming him.
http://goo.gl/3Q1Vg
73. 12/23/11 (USA VA) Virginia National Bank (VNB) Chairman Mark Giles quits
http://goo.gl/dFDpH
74. 12/23/11 (USA VA) Virginia National Bank (VNB) Board Member Claire Gargalli quits
http://goo.gl/kowkW
75. 12/23/11 (USA VA) Virginia National Bank (VNB) Board Member Leslie Disharoon quits
http://goo.gl/kstLp
76. 12/23/11 (USA VA) Virginia National Bank (VNB) Board Member Neal Kassell quits
http://goo.gl/NrrPZ
77. 12/23/11 (USA) Third Avenue Value Fund, co-manager Marty Whitman is leaving.
http://goo.gl/iMe99
78. 1/01/12 (NIGERIA) United Bank for Africa Plc Victor Osadolor resigns
http://goo.gl/b6AoA
79. 1/01/12 (ISRAEL) Israel's Bank Leumi CEO Galia Maor steps down after 16 years
http://goo.gl/xwlFt
80. 1/03/12 (USA VA) Suffolk Bancorp president and CEO J. Gordon Huszagh steps down
http://goo.gl/joExI
81. 1/03/12 (USA WI) Michael Falbo, president and CEO of Southport Bank, has resigned just six months after accepting the position.
http://goo.gl/DP1uK
82. 1/03/12 (UK) Arbuthnot Banking Group: Neil Kirton resigned from the Board
http://goo.gl/SKE7j
83. 1/03/12 (UK) Arbuthnot Banking Group: Atholl Turrell left the Board.
http://goo.gl/bzZtQ
84. 1/05/12 (UK) Saunderson House [Private Bank] CEO Nick Fletcher steps down
http://goo.gl/zvo1L
85. 1/05/12 (USA NY) Blackstone/GSO Senior Floating Rate Term Fund and Blackstone/GSO Long-Short Credit Income Fund announced that John R. O’Neill has resigned.
http://goo.gl/ZiWGL
86. 1/07/12 (UK) Arab Banking Corporation Intl. Bank (ABCIB) Manama, Bahrain: ABCIB announced retirement of CEO Nofal Barbar from its London office.
http://goo.gl/yF0Mm
87. 1/09/12 (SWITZERLAND) SNB Chairman Philipp Hildebrand resigns
http://goo.gl/5qsUu
88. 1/09/12 (USA WASHINGTON DC) Whitehouse former banker and Chief of Staff William M. Daley resigned
http://goo.gl/34F0B
89. 1/09/12 (USA NY) Morgan Stanley Chief Legal Officer Frank Barron retires.
http://goo.gl/XYCwJ
90. 1/09/12 (SWITZERLAND) Temenos Group AG, provider of core banking software announced the resignation of Mark Austen as a member of the Board of Directors.
http://goo.gl/l6QzM
91. 1/11/12 (KAZAKHSTAN) BTA Bank, CEO Marat Zairov resigns for health reasons.
http://goo.gl/yAHgr
92. 1/11/12 (SWITZERLAND) La Banque Privée Edmond de Rothschild, CEO Claude Messulam resigns, replaced by Christophe de Backer, Claude Messulam to become a director of the bank holding company.
http://goo.gl/vWr3i
93. 1/12/12 (USA) Goldman Sachs, Co-Head Securities Trading Edward K. Eisler retires
http://goo.gl/i2TVk
94. 1/12/12 (USA) Goldman Sachs, Co-Head Securities Trading David B. Heller retires
http://goo.gl/i2TVk
95. 1/13/12 (IRELAND) National Asset Management Agency, head of lending Graham Emmett is resigning
http://goo.gl/GN3h3
96. 1/17/12 (CANADA) Cumberland Private Wealth Management CIO John Wilson quit to join another money manager.
http://goo.gl/3JuNJ
97. 1/17/12 (HONG KONG) Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation Limited (OCBC Bank) CEO David Conner retires.
http://goo.gl/83Z1i
98. 1/17/12 (UK) Morgan Stanley Intl, chairman Walid Chammah is retiring. An inside source speculated that it could mean that the company had suffered exposure to European sovereign debt woes under Chammah's purview.
http://goo.gl/e7vS7
99. 1/17/12 (KUWAIT) Commercial Bank of Kuwait S.A.K. Board Member Ali Yousef Al Awwadhy resigned.
http://goo.gl/0PoIM
100. 1/17/12 (KUWAIT) Commercial Bank of Kuwait S.A.K. Board Member Miss Anoud Fadhel Al Hathran resigned.
http://goo.gl/0PoIM
101. 1/17/12 (KUWAIT) Commercial Bank of Kuwait S.A.K. Board Member Mr. Tarek Farid Al Othman resigned.
http://goo.gl/0PoIM
102. 1/17/12 (KUWAIT) Commercial Bank of Kuwait S.A.K. Board Member Mr. Salem Ali Hassan Al Ali resigned.
http://goo.gl/0PoIM
103. 1/17/12 (KUWAIT) Commercial Bank of Kuwait S.A.K. Board Member Mr. Majed Ali Oweid Awadh resigned.
http://goo.gl/0PoIM
104. 1/17/12 (KUWAIT) Commercial Bank of Kuwait S.A.K. Board Member Mr. Badr Suliman Al Ahmed resigned.
http://goo.gl/0PoIM
105. 1/18/12 (USA) Goldman Sachs co-heads of Goldman's securities business David Heller resigns.
http://goo.gl/TMHvx
106. 1/18/12 (USA) Goldman Sachs co-heads of Goldman's securities business Edward Eisler resigns.
http://goo.gl/TMHvx
107. 1/18/12 (USA) Goldman Sachs co-head of its investment management division Ed Forst resigns.
http://goo.gl/TMHvx
108. 1/19/12 (UK) Santander, senior director Americas division Francisco Luzón is retiring with a pension pot of about €56m, a package whose generous size is expected to reignite controversy over bankers’ remuneration.
http://goo.gl/XMRvP
109. 1/19/12 (EGYPT) Beltone Financial Holding (BTFH) Alaa' Sabaa resigned from board of directors.
http://goo.gl/5Eze1
110. 1/19/12 (EGYPT) Beltone Financial Holding (BTFH) Wael EL Mahgary resigned from board of directors.
http://goo.gl/5Eze1
111. 1/20/12 (USA NY) JPMorgan Chase, Mortgage Banking Default organization head Scott Powell has decided to leave the bank.
http://goo.gl/TCYpT
112. 1/20/12 (JAPAN) Normura's head of wholesale banking Jasjit Bhattai quits
http://goo.gl/6FuWe
113. 1/20/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) First National Bank's sharia banking division is in a state of flux after it was hit by a corporate governance scandal in which its chief executive, Ebi Patel, was put on "special leave" for almost a month while an internal probe was conducted. Patel has been reinstated, but is facing disciplinary action. Islamic finance forbids the payment and receipt of interest (riba), and investment in some industries. Sharia law states that interest-bearing transactions result in economic ills such as unemployment and high inflation. Trading in derivatives and speculative investment are also forbidden. Sharia law requires all transactions to be backed by tangible assets.
http://goo.gl/NmGJP
114. 1/20/12 (USA) TIAA-CREF executive vice president and president of Asset Management, Scott C. Evans resigned
http://goo.gl/f6qLs
115. 1/20/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) South African deputy economic development minister Enoch Godongwana quit his post this week in the face of growing outrage in government circles about his involvement in a company that allegedly defrauded clothing factory workers of R100-million of their pension fund money.
http://goo.gl/ZADvn
116. 1/21/12 (UK) Butterfield Private Bank head Danny Dixon Steps Down
http://goo.gl/sdY1p
117. 1/21/12 (SINGAPORE) ANZ Asia's private banking head Nina Aguas resigns as managing director of Asia-Pacific private banking.
http://goo.gl/hlHvG
118. 1/21/12 (GREECE) Institute of International Finance negotiator Charles Dallara quits
http://goo.gl/NbPlt
119. 1/21/12 (GREECE) Institute of International Finance negotiator Jean Lemierre quits
http://goo.gl/E3AkE
120. 1/21/12 (USA CA) Nara Bancorp (Now called BBCN) President and CEO Min Kim Resigns
http://goo.gl/rcfJ3
121. 1/22/12 (KENYA) National Bank of Kenya's (NBK) managing director, Mr Reuben Marambii, will resign before year end.
http://goo.gl/c2n7r
122. 1/24/12 (IRELAND) Deutsche International Corporate Services Limited fund, Paul Shevlin resigned as a director
http://goo.gl/OjZFF
123. 1/24/12 (SWITZERLAND) Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria, Dr. Michel Kazatchkine, a French clinical immunologist and head of the $22.6 billion fund has abruptly resigned, since revelations about corruption and misspending severely rattled some of its biggest donors. The resignation came on the eve of the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos, which played a role in its creation a decade ago. A dinner for the public-private fund is planned Thursday with U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and major backers Bill Gates and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The shakeup resulted from an internal review to address problems highlighted in Associated Press stories last year about the loss of tens of millions of dollars in grant money because of mismanagement and alleged fraud. Its biggest private donor is the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, which has pledged $1.15 billion and provided it with $650 million so far.
http://goo.gl/bqXs8
124. 1/25/12 (UK) SOFIA PROPERTY FUND LIMITED, Gerry Williams has resigned as a Director, following his resignation from Ardel Holdings Limited ("Ardel") where he was CEO. Ardel is the holding company of Ardel Fund Services Limited which provides administration services in Guernsey to the Company.
http://goo.gl/kDfVv
125. 1/25/12 (USA NY) Fortress Private Equity, CEO Daniel Madrid (aka Daniel Mudd) has resigned. Madrid was forced to leave in order to deal with SEC allegations. Prior to joining Fortress, Madrid served as Fannie Mae CEO and was forced to resign. SEC sued Madrid and former Freddie Mac CEO Richard West Long (aka Richard Syron) for hiding hundreds of billions of dollars in subprime loans. Madrid denied the SEC allegations saying the US govt. and investors were informed of Fannie Mae’s loan data.
http://goo.gl/u9IdB and http://goo.gl/v94ik and http://goo.gl/tXQwP
126. 1/27/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) ABSA Group COO Alfie Naidoo would be leaving to pursue personal interests
http://goo.gl/cVWnA
127. 1/27/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) ABSA Group chief marketing and communication officer Happy Ntshingila, will be taking up an "exciting position" outside banking
http://goo.gl/cVWnA
128. 1/27/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) ABSA Group CEO Daphne Motsepe retires at the end of April after a 10-year career at the bank.
http://goo.gl/cVWnA
129. 1/29/12 (PORTUGAL) Banco Santander Totta SA executive chairman Nuno Manuel da Silva Amado has resigned
http://goo.gl/Glvdn
130. 1/29/12 (NEW ZEALAND) New Zealand Reserve Bank Gov Alan Bollard to Step Down
http://goo.gl/BwUgv
131. 1/29/12 (UAE) NBD, Emirates 's investment banking division CEO Suresh Kumar is leaving the bank
http://goo.gl/S1x0F
132. 1/30/12 (UK) British Private Equity and Venture Capital Association (BVCA) COO Andrew Graham steps down
http://goo.gl/4SDW8
133. 1/31/12 (SCOTLAND) Royal Bank of Scotland former CEO Fred Goodwin Stripped of Knighthood
http://goo.gl/CoLVS
134. 2/01/12 (SYRIA) Arab Bank Syria Board member Basma Talal Zein resigns.
http://goo.gl/WXxzw
135. 2/01/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) ABSA [Barclay's Bank] deputy CEO Louis von Zeuner resigns
http://goo.gl/IP8nH
136. 2/01/12 (UK) Lloyds Bankging Group head of wholesaleTruett Tate quits
http://goo.gl/OqRVo
137. 2/01/12 (UK) Llyods Banking Group Tim Tookey leaving end of February
http://goo.gl/vjO5M
138. 2/02/12 (VENEZUELA) Banking Crisis Arne Chacon arrested for Banking Corruption
http://goo.gl/bb5sh
139. 2/02/12 (USA) American Perspective Bank, President and CEO Thomas J. Beene resigned.
http://goo.gl/K66eb
140. 2/02/12 (USA) NIR Group hedge funds, Corey Ribotsky was forced out of NIR by Pricewaterhouse-Coopers, the court-appointed liquidator, following allegations of fraud by the Securities and Exchange Commission. In September, the SEC sued Ribotsky and NIR for taking more than $1 million of investors’ money to buy cars and watches.
141. 2/03/12 (UK) VinaCapital Vietnam Opportunity Fund Ltd, Non-Executive Director Horst Geicke has resigned.
http://goo.gl/r955T
142. 2/03/12 (UK) UBS London trader, Kweku M. Adoboli, was arrested and charged with fraud and false accounting, forcing UBS to announce a $2.3 billion trading loss.
http://goo.gl/ClTaq
143. 2/05/12 (USA - NY) Morgan's investment banking chairman Joseph Perella quit
http://goo.gl/pG2jF
144. 2/05/12 (USA - NY) Morgan Stanley investment banking Tarek Abdel-Meguid quit
http://goo.gl/bRv9K
145. 2/06/12 (INDIA) Dhanlaxmi Bank CEO Amitabh Chaturvedi quits:
http://goo.gl/OhCEb
146. 2/06/12 (USA NY) TD Ameritrade, head of retail distribution John Bunch resigns. Bunch is leaving to take the top job at a small investment advisory firmin Kansas City.
http://goo.gl/kgS7M
147. 2/07/12 (USA) Bank Of America's Mortgage Business Chief Barbara Desoer Retires
http://goo.gl/i7AUY
148. 2/07/12 (INDIA) Kotak Mahindra Bank Falguni Nayar quits
http://goo.gl/fP03J
149. 2/07/12 (IRAN) Iran denies central bank resignation rumor (don't believe until its denied?)
http://goo.gl/PiQSy
150. 2/08/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) Standard Bank Group Ltd - Resignation of Group Secretary Loren Wulfsohn
http://goo.gl/K1pfn
151. 2/08/12 (USA OH) Cleveland International Fund (CIF) private equity fund, A. Eddy Zai launched and led the Cleveland International Fund, an investment outfit that pairs wealthy foreign investors hoping for U.S. residency with job-creating projects. Zai resigned from his job this week, before being indicted in a bank-fraud scheme that, according to investigators, contributed to the collapse of a credit union in Eastlake.
http://goo.gl/tgamf
152. 2/08/12 (UAE) Emirates NBD makes top-level changes Bank's deputy chief executive officer Abdul Wahed Al Fahim has resigned.
http://goo.gl/JUdNd
153. 2/09/12 (VATICAN) Institute for Religious Works (IOR aka "Vatican Bank"), 62 year old Monsignor Emilio Messina, the Archdiocese of Camerino-San Severino Marche investigated on money laundering by Italian officials.
http://goo.gl/uztVU
154. 2/09/12 (VATICAN) Institute for Religious Works (IOR aka "Vatican Bank"), 49 year old Father Don Salvatore Palumbo of the socially popular parish of San Gaetano
http://goo.gl/uztVU
155. 2/09/12 (VATICAN) Institute for Religious Works (IOR aka "Vatican Bank"), 37 year old Father Horace Bonaccorsi of Catania, already tried and acquitted in Sicily for money laundering offenses recycling money through accounts at IOR
http://goo.gl/uztVU
156. 2/09/12 (VATICAN) Institute for Religious Works (IOR aka "Vatican Bank"), 85 year old Father Don Evaldo Biasini of Rome. Father Don Evaldo Biasini is known as the "Don of Cash".
http://goo.gl/uztVU
157. 2/09/12 (UKRAINE) National Bank of Ukraine deputy governor Volodymyr Krotiuk quits
http://goo.gl/8BuXy
158. 2/09/12 (UK) JP Morgan Chinese Investment Trust PLC, non-executive Director Madam Yujiang Zhao resigned
http://goo.gl/CPO23
159. 2/09/12 (UK) Alliance Trust Savings (ATS), Robert Burgess is stepping down as CEO.
http://goo.gl/ohHG3
160. 2/10/12 (KOREA) Korea Exchange Bank chief Larry Klane steps down
http://goo.gl/DBKdc
161. 2/10/12 (INDIA) Tamilnad Mercantile Bank CEO A K Jagannathan resigns
http://goo.gl/wMl5g
162. 2/13/12 (KUWAIT) Kuwait Central Bank CEO Sheikh Salem Abdulaziz Al Sabbah resigns
http://goo.gl/GFvIy
163. 2/13/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs confirmed on Monday that George N. Mattson, one of the firm’s top deal makers in the industrial sector, will retire. He was a senior relationship banker with a client list that included General Motors, General Electric and Caterpillar.
http://goo.gl/vgnq2
164. 2/14/12 (NICARAQUA) Nicaraqua Central Bank President Antenor Rosales resigns
http://goo.gl/iQ0n8
165. 2/14/12 (UK) Social finance pioneer Malcolm Hayday quits Charity Bank
http://goo.gl/uHp6C
166. 2/14/12 (PAKISTAN) National Bank of Pakistan (NBP) chairman Syed Ali Raza resigned
http://goo.gl/scexo
167. 2/14/12 (USA NY) Goldman Sachs Jeffrey Moslow resigns, an investment banker to companies such as Tyco International Ltd, Nstar, the Boston-based utility, and defense contractor Dyncorp International Inc.
http://goo.gl/7h4O7
168. 2/15/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) HPA - Hospitality Property Fund Limited, chairman Frank Berkeley resigned.
http://goo.gl/wJmpR
169. 2/15/12 (USA) Boston Properties (REIT), Executive VP and COO E. Mitchell Norvilleto resigned
http://goo.gl/AW7X7
170. 2/15/12 (WORLD) World Bank CEO Zoellick resigns
http://goo.gl/dHDSm
Did the White House tell the World Bank president that he's out?
http://goo.gl/wUOgb
171. 2/15/12 (CHINA) Morgan non-executive chairman Stanley Stephen Roach will be retiring.
http://goo.gl/MQeGW
172. 2/15/12 (SLOVENIA) Nova Kreditna Banka Maribor CEO Andrej Plos resigns
http://goo.gl/SNsVI
173. 2/15/12 (SLOVENIA) Nova Ljubljanska Banka d.d. CEO Bozo Jasovic resigns
http://goo.gl/TyYiJ
174. 2/16/12 (USA IL) Deerfield Capital Management LLC, CEO Daniel Hattori and CEO of CIFC Corp resigned.
http://goo.gl/LLNnD
175. 2/16/12 (USA IL) Deerfield Capital Management LLC, COO Luke Knecht and CEO of CIFC Corp, resigned both positions.
http://goo.gl/LLNnD
176. 2/16/12 (UK) The Financial Services Authority Margaret Cole is to step down
http://goo.gl/yT6rS
177. 2/16/12 (GHANA) Databank Group Executive Chair Ken Ofori-Atta steps down
http://goo.gl/c7PtU
178. 2/16/12 (SAUDI ARABIA) Saudi Hollandi Banks Managing Director Geoffrey Calvert Quits
http://goo.gl/CtmOU
179. 2/16/12 (AUSTRALIA) ANZ Bank Australia CFO Peter Marriott resigns
http://goo.gl/I7Alo
180. 2/16/12 (UK) Royal Bank of Scotland Sr Equities Trader Jason Edinburgh Arrested
http://goo.gl/WczHh
181. 2/16/12 (UK) Royal Bank of Scotland director equities bus. Vincent Walsh director Arrested
http://goo.gl/I7Alo
182. 2/16/12 (UK) Marex Spectron senior trader Michael Elsom Arrested
http://goo.gl/I7Alo
183. 2/16/12 (AUSTRALIA) Royal Bank of Scotland Austraila CEO Stephen Williams resigns
http://goo.gl/4r16D
184. 2/17/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) Coronation Fund Managers CEO Hugo Nelson is stepping down at age of 40.
http://goo.gl/I3NY8
185. 2/17/12 (PAKISTAN) PICIC Asset Management Company Limited CFO Ahmed Raza resigns
http://goo.gl/K8A2I
186. 2/17/12 (USA NY) Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein out as by summer
http://goo.gl/UjpzD
187. 2/17/12 (SWITZERLAND) SNB Council President Hansueli Raggenbass resigns
http://goo.gl/1n1Nr
188. 2/17/12 (UK) Insight Investment, asset manager Mike Pinggera has resigned..
http://goo.gl/uDplK
189. 2/17/12 (USA NY) Harbinger Group Inc. CFO Francis T. McCarron has advised the Company of his resignation effective April 30
http://goo.gl/6il4F
190. 2/17/12 (BULGARIA) Bulgaria National Health Insurance Fund (NHIF), The managing director Neli Nesheva, resigned after a two-day row about end-of-year bonuses paid by NHIF to its employees.
http://goo.gl/7UQxv
191. 2/18/12 (PAKISTAN) The Bank of Azad Jammu and Kashmir executive Zulfiqar Abbasi resigns
http://goo.gl/G0woP
192. 2/19/12 (MALTA) Bank of Valletta, director of the Multi-Manager Fund John C. Ripard, has resigned being reprimanded by the MFSA for disposing of his holdings in the Fund whilst in possession of sensitive information which was not available to the public.
http://goo.gl/1li3r
193. 2/20/12 (RUSSIA) Head of Russian Bank Regulator Gennady Melikyan Steps Down
http://goo.gl/Unuez
194. 2/20/12 (SWITZERLAND) Credit Suisse Chief Joseph Tan resigns
http://goo.gl/F5twL
195. 2/20/12 (ISRAEL) Bank Leumi le-Israel Ltd: Zvi Itskovitch resigns
http://goo.gl/aA0RW
196. 2/20/12 (USA WA) First Financial Northwest Director Spencer Schneider Quits
http://goo.gl/6Dj0i
197. 2/21/12 (ARGENTINA) Central Bank of Argentina (BCRA) Gen Mgr Benigno Velez, resigns
http://goo.gl/DuMrm
198. 2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Nitol Insurance Co. Ltd director Abdul Matlub resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
199. 2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Nitol Insurance Co. Ltd director Selima Ahmad resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
200. 2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Nitol Insurance Co. Ltd director Abdul Musabbir Ahmad resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
201. 2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) City General Insurance Co. Ltd director Geasuddin Ahmad resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on unknown bank
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
202. 2/21/12 (BANGLADESH) Social Islami Bank Limited director Taslima Akter resigns
conflict of interest with director seat on Eastland Insurance Company Limited
http://goo.gl/aEmwB
203. 2/21/12 (JAPAN) CITIBANK JAPAN: Bakhshi is taking over duties from Brian Mccappin, who the bank said in December would resign after the unit was banned for two weeks from trading tied to the London and Tokyo interbank offered rates.
http://goo.gl/Z1rnw
204. 2/22/12 (HONG KONG) DZ BANK project finance head Tim Meaney quits
http://goo.gl/ppKno
205. 2/22/12 (SINGAPORE) Macquarie International Infrastructure Fund's CEO John Stuart to resign
http://goo.gl/ji7Q4
206. 2/22/12 (USA NY) Goldman Sachs Hedge Fund Group Chief Howard Wietschner to Retire
http://goo.gl/x4Zsr
207. 2/22/12 (UK) UBS AG’s (UBSN) Doug McCutcheon, head of Healthcare Banking in Europe, Middle East, Africa and Asia-Pacific region, has left Switzerland’s biggest bank after 25 years at the firm.
http://goo.gl/Dnxqh
208. 2/23/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs Nordic M&A banker Luca Ferrari has decided to retire from the firm, clients included the largest telecommunications operator in Spain the Spanish telecommunications.
http://goo.gl/qmCh3
209. 2/23/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) Richard Gush resigns from Standard Bank
http://goo.gl/DTL5S
210. 2/23/12 (SCOTLAND) Royal Bank of Scotland Group director John McFarlane resigns.
http://goo.gl/KoEUI
211. 2/24/12 (GUERNSEY) Spearpoint Limited (SPL) Investment Funds, director Mike Kirby resigns for business reasons.
http://goo.gl/9stPB
212. 2/24/12 (INDIA) Breaking: ICICI Bank GC Pramod Rao resigns
http://goo.gl/5eUqU
213. 2/24/12 (HONG KONG) Citigroup Pvt Bank Global Real Estate Kwang Meng Quek Resigns
http://goo.gl/JIC9A
214. 2/24/12 (NEW ZEALAND) FSF Executive Director Kirk Hope resigns
http://goo.gl/6UJau
215. 2/24/12 (USA NY) Evercore Partners Head Eduardo Mestre steps down
http://goo.gl/n5RLY
216. 2/25/12 (AUSTRALIA AND NZ) Goldman Sachs Chairman Stephen Fitzgerald quits
http://goo.gl/nMTLW
217. 2/25/12 (DENMARK) European Investment Bank (EIB), Mr Sigmund Lubanski, of the Kingdom of Denmark tendered his resignation.
http://goo.gl/y4XXF
218. 2/27/12 (GERMANY) Deutsche Bank Americas chief Seth Waugh steps down
http://goo.gl/8lxSw
219. 2/27/12 (BAHRAIN) Khaleeji Commercial Bank CEO Ebrahim Ebrahim quits
http://goo.gl/yKjzL
220. 2/27/12 (BAHRAIN) - Mumtalakat Holding [Sovereign Wealth Fund] CEO Al Zain resigns
http://goo.gl/hhHSm
221. 2/27/12 (FRANCE) Societe Generale’s Investment Banking Chief Michel Péretié Steps Down
http://goo.gl/IJ5Lw
222. 2/27/12 (MALAYSIA) Elaf Bank CEO Dr El Jaroudi resigns
http://goo.gl/eVCS5
223. 2/27/12 (GERMANY) Equiduct chairman Artur Fischer steps down
http://goo.gl/Q0dWR
224. 2/27/12 (IRAN) Bank Melli CEO Mahmoud Reza Khaavari Resigns - Flees to Canada!
http://goo.gl/DDEUk
225. 2/27/12 (IRAN) Bank Saderat CEO Mohammad Jahromi resigns
http://goo.gl/ZD0mc
226. 2/27/12 (UK) Lloyds Banking Group Glen Moreno steps down
http://goo.gl/dsXcE
227. 2/27/12 (SINGAPORE) Standard Chartered Bank, global head of repo and collateralised financing Tanweer Khan resigned.
http://goo.gl/hgbuc
228. 2/28/12 (HONG KONG) Hang Seng Bank CEO Margaret Leung Ko May-yee quits
http://goo.gl/Uo800
229. 2/28/12 (CHINA) Bank of China International ECM global head Marshall Nicholson quits
http://goo.gl/26MYq
230. 2/28/12 (SINGAPORE) DBS security head Jim Pasqurell quits, cites health reasons
http://goo.gl/NDJze
231. 2/28/12 (HONG KONG) Bank of America's Asia-Pac. mrkts Brian Canniffe quits
http://goo.gl/cRkCP
232. 2/28/12 (BELGIUM) KBC's CEO Jan Vanhevel is to retire after a career spanning 41 years.
http://goo.gl/1rCWd
233. 2/28/12 (CANADA) Ontario Securities Commission chairwoman Peggy-Anne Brown quits
http://goo.gl/HIYXv
234. 2/28/12 (AUSTRALIA) Bank manager Colin John Carleton jailed nine years for $3m theft
http://goo.gl/ggPvq
235. 2/28/12 (SRI LANKA) Sri Lanka Com Bank CEO Amitha Gooneratne retires
http://goo.gl/YxvNA
236. 2/28/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) REDEFINE INCOME FUND director Gerald Leissner resigns
http://goo.gl/F0UgN
237. 2/28/12 (ITALY) UNICREDIT: Chairman Dieter Rampl not available for a new mandate
http://goo.gl/7aLRU
238. 2/28/12 (UK) Bank of England Sir David Lees re-appointed Chair of Bank of England and gives notice of resignation at end of 2013
http://goo.gl/LkJhV
239. 2/28/12 (IRELAND) State Street Global Advisors Cash Funds plc Director Keith Walsh resigns
http://goo.gl/n6uoM
240. 2/29/12 (AUSTRALIA) Perpetual portfolio manager Matt Williams steps down
http://goo.gl/Jh9jd
241. 2/29/12 (UK) Honister Capital CEO Richard Pearson steps down
http://goo.gl/014or
242. 2/29/12 (GUYANA) National Investment and Commercial Investments Ltd. (NICIL), Executive Director Winston Brassington resigns, “We feel that (Winston) Brassington knows everything…A to Z about all the transactions,” said Chairman of the Alliance for Change (AFC), Khemraj Ramjattan, as he sounded a warning that controversial figure could be subpoenaed to appear before the Parliamentary Economic Sector Committee.
http:// goo.gl/L7I35
243. 3/01/12 (MALAYSIA) RHB Bank Bhd deputy managing director Renzo Viegas quits
http://goo.gl/wACrI
244. 3/01/12 (ITALY) Italian Banking Association Chairman Giuseppe Mussari talks to reporters in Rome after he and seven other executives offered to resign in protest over new banking-fee rules included in the government's legislation on boosting competition.
http://goo.gl/3llyT
245. 3/01/12 (USA FL) Florida Venture Forum [Venture Capital] Exec Dir Robin Lester quits
http://goo.gl/nA8g9
246. 3/01/12 (USA NY) PineBridge Investments said Win Neuger has resigned as chief executive. Neuger helped build AIG's third party asset management business, PineBridge still manages AIG assets
http://goo.gl/SI7kT
247. 3/01/12 (SINGAPORE) UBS Singapore - James Tulley is leaving Switzerland’s largest bank, it is not clear where he is going.
http://goo.gl/BGugF
248. 3/01/12 (USA NH) Piscataqua Savings Bank CEO Jay Gibson retires
http://goo.gl/uEqDV
249. 3/01/12 (ICELAND) Iceland’s Financial Supervisory Authority (FSA) fired its director Gunnar Andersen
http://goo.gl/VG9q5
250. 3/01/12 (USA OR) Oregon Public Employees Retirement Fund (OPERF) senior RE officer Brad Child will retire
http://goo.gl/vcERz
251. 3/02/12 (CHINA) China Construction Bank Corp, assistant general manager and head of corporate banking Mickey Mehta quits
http://goo.gl/B9dR0
252. 3/02/12 (USA NY) Deutsche Bank Student Loan CEOJohn Hupalo quits to start student loan counseling firm.
http://goo.gl/8kZuc
253. 3/02/12 (UK) Bank of England Sir Mervin King resigns in June, Lord Sassoon tipped as replacement.
http://goo.gl/ZEUwf
254. 3/02/12 (BOTSWANA) Barclays Bank Botswana managing director Wilfred Mpai forced to resign
http://goo.gl/npBe2
255. 3/02/12 (HONG KONG) New Century Group Hong Kong Ltd [investment house and leisure group] Wilson Ng resigns
http://goo.gl/wFSV8
256. 3/02/12 (USA NY) Citigroup Richard Parsons to step down as chairman
http://goo.gl/BhZ0F
257. 3/03/12 (AUSTRIA) Volksbank AG (VBAG) The contract of CEO Gerald Wenzel will not be extended
http://goo.gl/w99tD
258. 3/03/12 (ETHIOPIA) Dashen Bank’s board dismisses president Leulseged Teferi
http://goo.gl/Y801M
259. 3/03/12 (RUSSIA) Enza Capital KK, Wealthy British banker Philip Townsend (Baron Townsend of Rathmore) and his wife killed at Estonia holiday home ⑆44541444⑈
http://goo.gl/GSOUN and http://goo.gl/x94ID and http://goo.gl/gGgLP
260. 3/04/12 (KOREA) Hana Financial Group Inc, prominent figure in the history of South Korean finance Kim Seung-yu , resigns
http://goo.gl/fmNxY
261. 3/04/12 (USA NY) JP Morgan prop trading chief Mike Stewart quits
http://goo.gl/gubPj
262. 3/05/12 (SAUDI ARABIA) Al Rajhi Bank CEO Abdullah bin Sulaiman Al Rajhi has resigned
http://goo.gl/pNx0l
263. 3/5/12 (UK) Jupiter fund co-manager Tony Nutt steps down
http://goo.gl/RPqOp
264. 3/05/12 (UK) Jupiter fund co-manager John Hamilton steps down
http://goo.gl/RPqOp
265. 3/05/12 (NEW ZEALAND) Insured Group Bill Jeffries has resigned as chairman and director
http://goo.gl/gX7wu
266. 3/05/12 (USA) Reliance Bancshares chairman Patrick Gideon resigned
http://goo.gl/u6BT4
267. 3/06/12 (FRANCE) Blackstone Group's Paris office leader Jean-Michel Steg will step down
http://goo.gl/w3Ca5
268. 3/06/12 (JAMAICA) Jamaica Money Market Brokers Limited, Patricia Sutherland has resigned as Executive Director
http://goo.gl/oMwv6
269. 3/06/12 (JAMAICA) Jamaica’s Financial Services Commission (FSC), Executive director Rohan Barnett, has resigned the position, the Ministry of Finance, Planning and the Public Service announced this afternoon.
http://goo.gl/FBwFo
270. 3/06/12 (USA PA) USA Technologies Inc Bradley M. Tirpak, a nominee of Shareholder Advocates for Value Enhancement,has resigned from its board subsequent to a settlement agreement with the investing group, according to an SEC filing. Provides a network of wireless non-cash transactions, associated financial/network services and energy management. It provides networked credit card and other non-cash systems in the vending, commercial laundry, hospitality and digital imaging industries.
http://goo.gl/8oi7C
271. 3/06/12 (UK) Sterling Green Group has announced that Philip Kanas, a non-executive director, has decided to resign
Sterling Green Group PLC became a cash shell following the disposal of their subsidiaries Taxdebts Ltd, Sterling Green (Mortgages) Ltd and the back books of the clients of Sterling Green Ltd. during December 2011.
http://goo.gl/qc3jB
272. 3/06/12 (UK) Aberdeen Asset Management, non-executive director Gerhard Fusenig has resigned from the board.
http://goo.gl/ZIkvQ
273. 3/07/12 (GERMANY) Deutsche Bank AG's (DB) Chief Risk Officer Hugo Baenzigeri to resign
http://goo.gl/MWqsH
274. 3/07/12 (GERMANY) Deutsche Bank AG's (DB) Chief Operating Officer Hermann-Josef Lamberti to resign
http://goo.gl/MWqsH
275. 3/07/12 (UNITED ARAB EMIRATES) Dubai Mercantile Exchange announced Thomas Leaver will step down as CEO
http://goo.gl/rfhWN
276. 3/07/12 (SCOTLAND) Macfarlane Group Chairman Archie Hunter to step down after 8 years of service
http://goo.gl/RHllr
277. 3/07/12 (USA) BlackRock Emerging Markets Fund co-head Daniel Tubbs, has left the group to pursue other opportunities.
http://goo.gl/CpEzZ
278. 3/07/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs (GSI) Christopher French resigns from board
http://goo.gl/3yQDS
279. 3/07/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs (GSI) David Wildermuth resigns from board
http://goo.gl/3yQDS
280. 3/07/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs (GSI) Matthew Westerman resigns from board
http://goo.gl/3yQDS
281. 3/07/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs (GSI) co-head of global mergers and acquisitions Yoel Zaoui resigns
http://goo.gl/3yQDS
282. 3/07/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs (GSI) Phil Beatty resigned as head of European power and natural-gas trading
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/13/12 06:14 PM

suite ...

282. 3/07/12 (UK) Goldman Sachs (GSI) Phil Beatty resigned as head of European power and natural-gas trading
http://goo.gl/jqbYY
283. 3/07/12 (SINGAPORE) Nikko Asset Management Timothy McCarthy is retiring as chairman and CEO at the end of the month
http://goo.gl/v8tcT
284. 3/07/12 (HONG KONG) UBS Senior Asia Economist Jonathan Anderson Departs
http://goo.gl/09VqT
285. 3/07/12 (HAITI) FORMER DIRECTOR HAITI CENTRAL BANK SLAIN! ⑆44541444⑈
http://goo.gl/UtVz3
286. 3/07/12 (FRANCE) Société Générale Private Banking, Daniel Truchi is to step down as head of Société Générale Private Banking
http://goo.gl/XhgJ9
287. 3/07/12 (AUSTRALIA) Customers Ltd, Tim Wildash has cashed himself out as chief executive of Australia’s largest ATM operator
http://goo.gl/eZJMb
288. 3/07/12 (USA CA) CALSTRS, Pascal Villiger, senior private equity portfolio manager at the $145 billion California State Teachers’ Retirement System resigns
http://goo.gl/ub0ke
289. 3/07/12 (USA) Astaire quits Bank of America Merrill to dance to Barclays Capital’s tune
http://goo.gl/Zv6Ny
290. 3/08/12 (USA NY) Schroders, CIO Alan Brown is steps down
http://goo.gl/ZTtYo
291. 3/08/12 (USA IL) CBOE Executive Patrick Fay Put on Leave Amid SEC Probe
http://goo.gl/x5snO
292. 3/08/12 (USA NH & RI) Bristol County Savings Bank president E. Dennis Kelly retires after 35 years
http://goo.gl/8KVKn
293. 3/08/12 (GERMANY) Clearstream Banking AG – Katja Rosenkranz To Leave Deutsche Börse Group [stockmarket]
http://goo.gl/RiVNi
294. 3/08/12 (UK) B&CE CEO Brian Griffiths is to retire later this year
http://goo.gl/AV7Sk
295. 3/08/12 (UK) Invesco Trimark Ltd, portfolio manager Dana Love has resigned.
http://goo.gl/MyQ90
296. 3/08/12 (ISRAEL) Bank of Israel Governor Stanley Fischer will hand in his shock resignation in the coming days and take up a new position as head of the Bank of Zambia. Finance Minister Yuval Steinitz is believed to be furious with Fischer's decision. Treasury officials said he even canceled his participation in the office's annual Purim party in order to convince Fischer to reverse his decision.
http://goo.gl/0DlSA
297. 3/09/12 (MONGOLIA) Mongol Bank President Alag Batsukh submitted his resignation letter to Speaker of Parliament D. Demberel at the end of last month. He described his reason for resigning as a lack of support by Parliament.
http://goo.gl/RDmNx
298. 3/09/12 (MONGOLIA) Asia Pacific Securities, General Manager Narantuguldur Saijrakh recently resigned, to focus on his role as Director of Khan Investment Management, investment advisor to the Khan Mongolia Equity Fund - the first open-ended investment vehicle with monthly dealing that invests in Mongolia related equities listed both domestically and internationally.
http://goo.gl/2T4R6
299. 3/09/12 (Côte d’Ivoire) Banque Central des Etats d’Afrique de l’Ouest (BCEAO) The Ivorian governor of the multi-billion dollar West Africa Francophone bank, Philippe-Henry Dacoury-Tabley, resigned his post.
http://goo.gl/CevLn
300. 3/09/12 (UK) Lazard , co-head of investment banking Alexis de Rosnay quits. De Rosnay specialises in the healthcare sector, he has advised Teva Pharmaceutical and Novartis.
http://goo.gl/3gzbi
301. 3/09/12 (UK) Deutsche Bank PWM, UK head of portfolio management Martyn Surguy resigned.
http://goo.gl/5Ti2p
302. 3/09/12 (UK) Deutsche Bank PWM, head of discretionary management, Kypros Charalambous, having also stepped down.
http://goo.gl/5Ti2p
303. 3/09/12 (HONG KONG) Bank of America Merrill Lynch, K.J. Kim, responsible for Southeast Asia, resigned
http://goo.gl/sE7xh
304. 3/09/12 (HONG KONG) Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Jimmy Choi, who was in charge of high-yield debt, resigned.
http://goo.gl/sE7xh
305. 3/09/12 (HONG KONG) Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Leonard Ng, a vice-president in Hong Kong resigned.
http://goo.gl/sE7xh
306. 3/09/12 (AUSTRALIA) Bank of Queensland CFO Ram Kangatharan plans to leave the bank.
http://goo.gl/ieNea
307. 3/09/12 (USA) Cerberus Capital Management LP, CEO Robert Nardelli resigns.
http://goo.gl/9uKVx
308. 3/10/12 (AUSTRALIA) WESTPAC, Rob Chapman opted to quit running its regional subsidiary St George Bank.
http://goo.gl/G6MD
309. 3/10/12 (TURKEY) Garanti Bank, The deputy CEO of Turkish lender Tolga Egemen, has decided to quit.
http://goo.gl/vAMzV
310. 3/10/12 (CHINA) Korea Development Bank, Shanghai unit senior manager Stella Wen resigned.
http://goo.gl/55CqZ
311. 3/10/12 (HONG KONG) Deutsche Bank, Johan Sudiman resigns as director.
http://goo.gl/6CYGP
312. 3/12/12 (USA) John Lewis Partnership Pension Trust, head of investments Andrew Chapman, resigns
http://goo.gl/hevqh
313. 3/12/12 (USA CA) California’s Department of Financial Institutions, commissioner William Haraf resigned. The DFI did not say why he is leaving.
http://goo.gl/zquTc
314. 3/12/12 (KUWAIT) Gulf Bank, Chairman Ali Rashaid Al Bader quits
http://goo.gl/LDz9b
315. 3/12/12 (UK and IRELAND) Allfunds Bank, head of UK and Ireland Alan Gadd is stepping down from his role at the end of April.
http://goo.gl/4DF6i
316. 3/12/12 (USA) ICAP, CEO of the electronic broking business David Rutter step down following a restructuring of the business.
http://goo.gl/SUHqW
317. 3/12/12 (UK) SVG Capital, chairman Nicholas Ferguson resigns. His departure left him well placed to succeed James Murdoch as chairman of BSkyB should the latter bow to investor pressure and step down. Other investors in the satellite broadcaster suggested Ferguson might be seen as too close to Murdoch to win the support of institutional shareholders.
http://goo.gl/z19wH
318. 3/12/12 (SOUTH AFRICA) The Development Bank of Southern Africa (DBSA), CEO Paul Baloyi resigns.
http://goo.gl/yX4xo
319. 3/12/12 (USA) Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc, CEO Bryan Marsal Resigns Title, Remains on as Adviser
http://goo.gl/1K9zV
320. 3/12/12 (USA IL) CME Group Inc, CEO Craig Donohues will step down at year end.
http://goo.gl/lvzgC
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/19/12 03:17 PM

Imminent Televised Event: Mass Arrests of 10,000 Global Cabal Members

Here's a type of warning promo publish on youtube so the people would be warned and less confused about the coming mass arrest of the Cabalist and whoever else still involved with them despite the offer to repent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaW2CsiXJi4 (only 3:16 min)

Below is what the end of the video had written on their screen to read.

"Very soon, you will witness the world-wide mass arrests of the many criminal cabal members.

These arrests will mean the removal of the final obstacles that will allow for the implementation of the new abundance systems that are ready to immediately free humanity from the current economy and its falsely imposed conditions of debt and poverty.

There have been many men and women dedicated to this cause who have been working diligently in secret for years to bring us to this moment and are so eager to present to humanity the new system that will immediately redistribute abundance to all of humanity and release humanity from the mundane life it has known. Freedom is to be returned to the people.

The release of technologies and other suppressed elements that are to be introduced will follow to assist this transition.

The news of these mass arrests will come sudden and come hard, and many whom are unprepared with an understanding as to why may feel shocked and confused to witness so many taken into custody.

These many men and women, how ever, have served for the perpetuation of your enslavement and all have actively taken part in serious crimes against the people

Certain big media groups have agreed to cover these events and assist in the disclosure timeline. These arrests will be televised and fully shared with you for it is owed to the people of the world that they witness the very moments and actions taken that will mean your release from the control of these many people whom have for so long worked to serve the
control and exploitation of humanity.

This manipulation will end and humanity will enter into a new life.

With this in mind, you can look upon these arrests without fear and acknowledge what they mean for your world.

There are many sources of this type of liberating information and it is requested that this information is made available to all who may, or may not, choose to at least familiarize themselves with it, for all efforts to spread this information are valuable and will help dispel fears and lessen the impact.

True freedom is to be returned to you soon."

Posted By: jamesonofthunder

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/23/12 04:42 AM

The Righteous Shall Live by His Faith

2 And the Lord answered me:

“Write the vision;
make it plain on tablets,
so he may run who reads it.
3 For still the vision awaits its appointed time;
it hastens to the end—it will not lie.
If it seems slow, wait for it;
it will surely come; it will not delay.

4 “Behold, his soul is puffed up; it is not upright within him,
but the righteous shall live by his faith.

5 “Moreover, wine (of Babylon) is a traitor,
an arrogant man who is never at rest.
His greed is as wide as Sheol;
like death he has never enough.
He gathers for himself all nations
and collects as his own all peoples.”

6 Shall not all these take up their taunt against him, with scoffing and riddles for him, and say,

“Woe to him who heaps up what is not his own—
for how long?—
and loads himself with pledges!”
7 Will not your debtors suddenly arise,
and those awake who will make you tremble?
Then you will be spoil for them.

8 Because you have plundered many nations,
all the remnant of the peoples shall plunder you,
for the blood of man and violence to the earth,
to cities and all who dwell in them.

If you want to know the end of our economic crisis, here it is.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/29/12 08:21 PM

Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
The Righteous Shall Live by His Faith

2 And the Lord answered me:

“Write the vision;
make it plain on tablets,
so he may run who reads it.
3 For still the vision awaits its appointed time;
it hastens to the end—it will not lie.
If it seems slow, wait for it;
it will surely come; it will not delay.

4 “Behold, his soul is puffed up; it is not upright within him,
but the righteous shall live by his faith.

5 “Moreover, wine (of Babylon) is a traitor,
an arrogant man who is never at rest.
His greed is as wide as Sheol;
like death he has never enough.
He gathers for himself all nations
and collects as his own all peoples.”

6 Shall not all these take up their taunt against him, with scoffing and riddles for him, and say,

“Woe to him who heaps up what is not his own—
for how long?—
and loads himself with pledges!”
7 Will not your debtors suddenly arise,
and those awake who will make you tremble?
Then you will be spoil for them.

8 Because you have plundered many nations,
all the remnant of the peoples shall plunder you,
for the blood of man and violence to the earth,
to cities and all who dwell in them.

If you want to know the end of our economic crisis, here it is.
Yes I agree this is what is happening.

Now what's important is

A) to properly identify Babylon according to these current world events.

B) And understand via whom G-d is bringing down Babylon according to scripture and current world events.

Rev 16:12 "And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/29/12 08:48 PM

The website AmericanKabuki list is currently up to 450 Bankers resignations. Basically they have found an additional 130 resignations on the web since March 12(in 17 days).

According to Benjamin Fulford source, "The final take down of the criminal cabal has also begun in earnest with over 200 senior bankers arrested and 450 resigned last week alone, these sources say." So the AmericanKabuki list is only a partial reflection of the actual resignations numbers.

I won't provide here the latest additions but you can see the latest list here : (http://americankabuki.blogspot.ca/p/131-resignations-from-world-banks.html)

They (AmericanKabuki) have started to make an account of the arrests that have started. What I understood via Benjamin Fulford Newsletter is that March 30th was the deadline they(Asians Ass. + 130 allied Countries) gave the cabalist and their associates to repent.

List of Mass arrest will be found here . (http://americankabuki.blogspot.ca/p/global-banker-arrests.html)
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/19/12 04:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
The website AmericanKabuki list is currently up to 450 Bankers resignations. Basically they have found an additional 130 resignations on the web since March 12(in 17 days).

As of April 15, the list on AmericanKabuki is now up to 594. An additional 150 resignations found on the webnews in about 15 days.

Here is a quote from this website http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Dislike-The-Secret-Government-Who-Rule-The-World/2186039 that describes in a few words what is going on.

"The Cabal Members and their 6,000 or so minions are now quitting their banking positions in the hundreds and soon to be thousands, because the individual states filed the proper paperwork to become independent of the US Corporation (own by the Federal Reverse Bank, who’s controlled by the Cabal)… which means that the US Military must obey what the states want, and not what the cabal wants!"

Drake from www.freedomReigns.us said that when Hague got the paperworks from several US States, on Feb 20, 2012 it set the whole US Nation free from the Corporate Cabalist run government. The Cabalist got notified emmediatly of the change of status in the US and they know that their criminal acts are no longer protected. So these Seniors Bankers are leaving taking whatever they can before it all comes in the open. For sure, many will be going in hiding but they will be hunted down to be arrested and procecuted like the others.

The USA has a Mass arrest plan that will soon be activitated to prosecute these cabalist criminals. From listening to the latest radio show, what I got is they(Criminal Cabalists) will be required to give back to the individuals what they have stollen.

This is much closer to how true justice should be serve according to the Laws of Moses which stipulate that they should pay back double, and if the goods cannot be return, they should pay back 4 to 5 times the value. This is true justice in G-d's eyes as oppose to our current Babylonian judicial system where no retribution is done towards the victimes and the criminal are locked up serving the state/community.

I have opened a discussion with detail information on the coming Cabalist Mass Arrest Topic and I will let everyone know any further development.

What I'm hearing it is to be executed real soon. We(the US citizens) will only have 24hrs warning before it is activated which should last from 3 to 10 days.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/09/12 03:44 PM

News about a 1,100 page notice of motion filed against the criminal daily activities of the South African Standard Bank(owned by the Rothschilds=Cabal) has made it on the mainstream South Africa news station. ABN Digital is Africa’s leading online platform in business, economic and stock market news.

This is great that somehow, the media in Africa was able to allowed this to be aired. All mainstream media is owned by the Rothschilds and is heavily controlled.

South African author, researcher and scientist, Michael Tellinger was behind filing this 1,100 page notice of motion against South Africa’s Standard Bank in the country’s Constitutional Court, accusing the bank of “unlawful and unconstitutional activity”.

He has also served the notice on South Africa’ s Reserve Bank and the country’s Minister of Finance.

It is pure exploitation of every South African citizen!” he says.

Michael Tellinger is interviewed by ABN’s Samantha Loring in this 7 min YouTube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_30xJbYq5KE

Micheal explains well in 7 minutes what is happening in his country. This situation is not only in South Africa, but exactly the same scenario in the US, Europe, Japan, etc.... all over the world.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/11/12 04:57 PM

I was hoping that soon we(Canadians) would see some actions against the BIS and other agents controling the Banks in Canada. Well it has already happened on December 12, 2011 filed by WILLIAM KREHM, AND ANN EMMETT.

http://sovcom.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/KREHM-Statement-of-Claim-11-10-111.pdf

Originally Posted By: Court Case Filed Dec 12, 2011
FEDERAL COURT
B E T W E E N:

COMMITTEE FOR MONETARY AND ECONOMIC REFORM (“COMER”),
WILLIAM KREHM, AND ANN EMMETT
Plaintiffs

- and -

HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN, THE MINISTER OF FINANCE,
THE MINISTER OF NATIONAL REVENUE, THE BANK OF CANADA,
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CANADA
Defendants


STATEMENT OF CLAIM
(Pursuant to s.17 (1) and (5)(b) Federal Courts Act,
and s.24(1) and 52 of the Constitution Act, 1982)
(Filed this 12th day of December, 2011)

TO THE DEFENDANT:
A LEGAL PROCEEDING HAS BEEN COMMENCED AGAINST YOU by the
Applicant. The claim made against you is set out in the following pages.

IF YOU WISH TO DEFEND THIS PROCEEDING, you or a solicitor acting for you are required to prepare a statement of defence in Form 171B prescribed by the Federal Courts Rules, serve it on the applicant’s solicitor or, where the applicant does not have a solicitor, serve it on the applicant, and file it, with proof of service, at a local office of this Court, WITHIN 30 DAYS after this statement of claim is served on you, if you are served within Canada.

Copies of the Federal Courts Rules, information concerning the local offices of the Court and other necessary information may be obtained on request to the Administrator of this Court at Ottawa (telephone 613-992-4238) or at any local office.


IF YOU FAIL TO DEFEND THIS PROCEEDING,
judgment may be given against you in your absence and without further notice to you.

...see link above to read the whole court case


Go to the URL below to see the lawsuit was filed on 2011-12-12
http://cas-ncr-nter03.cas-satj.gc.ca/IndexingQueries/infp_queries_e.php
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/16/12 03:31 PM

Here’s an very good comment regarding JPMorgan’s recent $2 Billion money bet loss. It’s written by Michael T. Snyder who is a lawyer and a respected researcher, writer, speaker and activist. You can follow him on The Economic Collapse blog: http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/

Basically he says that Banks continually makes huge bets like a casino junkie. When they win, the winning is big. When they loose, they get the taxpayers to pay for their losses.

If you don't have time to read the whole article, the bolded section at the end is the most important.

This article is found at this link :
http://seekingalpha.com/article/584531-j...market-collapse
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JPMorgan's $2B Loss: A Preview Of The Coming Derivatives Market Collapse
By Micheal T. Snyder May 13, 2012

When news broke of a 2 billion dollar trading loss by JPMorgan (JPM), much of the financial world was absolutely stunned. But the truth is that this is just the beginning. This is just a very small preview of what is going to happen when we see the collapse of the worldwide derivatives market. When most Americans think of Wall Street, they think of a bunch of stuffy bankers trading stocks and bonds. But over the past couple of decades it has evolved into much more than that. Today, Wall Street is the biggest casino in the entire world. When the "too big to fail" banks make good bets, they can make a lot of money. When they make bad bets, they can lose a lot of money, and that is exactly what just happened to JPMorgan.

The bank's Chief Investment Office made a series of trades which turned out horribly, and it resulted in a loss of over 2 billion dollars over the past 40 days. But 2 billion dollars is small potatoes compared to the vast size of the global derivatives market. It has been estimated that the the notional value of all the derivatives in the world is somewhere between 600 trillion dollars and 1.5 quadrillion dollars. Nobody really knows the real amount, but when this derivatives bubble finally bursts, there is not going to be nearly enough money on the entire planet to fix things.

Sadly, a lot of mainstream news reports are not even using the word "derivatives" when they discuss what just happened at JPMorgan. This morning I listened carefully as one reporter described the 2 billion dollar loss as simply a "bad bet".
And perhaps that is easier for the American people to understand. JPMorgan made a series of really bad bets and during a conference call Friday night CEO Jamie Dimon admitted that the strategy was "flawed, complex, poorly reviewed, poorly executed and poorly monitored". The funny thing is that JPMorgan is considered to be much more "risk averse" than most other major Wall Street financial institutions are. So if this kind of stuff is happening at JPMorgan, then what in the world is going on at some of these other places?

That is a really good question.

For those interested in the technical details of the 2 billion dollar loss, an article posted on CNBC described exactly how this loss happened:

The failed hedge likely involved a bet on the flattening of a credit derivative curve, part of the CDX family of investment grade credit indices, said two sources with knowledge of the industry, but not directly involved in the matter. JPMorgan was then caught by sharp moves at the long end of the bet, [it] said. The CDX index gives traders exposure to credit risk across a range of assets, and gets its value from a basket of individual credit derivatives.

In essence, JPMorgan made a series of bets which turned out very, very badly. This loss was so huge that it even caused members of Congress to take note. The following is from a statement that U.S. Senator Carl Levin issued a few hours after this news first broke:

The enormous loss JPMorgan announced today is just the latest evidence that what banks call 'hedges' are often risky bets that so-called 'too big to fail' banks have no business making.
Unfortunately, the losses from this trade may not be over yet. In fact, if things go very, very badly the losses could end up being much larger, as a recent Zero Hedge article detailed:

Simple: because it knew with 100% certainty that if things turn out very, very badly, that the taxpayer, via the Fed, would come to its rescue. Luckily, things turned out only 80% bad. Although it is not over yet: If credit spreads soar, assuming at $200 million DV01, and a 100 bps move, JPM could suffer a $20 billion loss when all is said and done. But hey: At least "net" is not "gross" and we know, just know, that the SEC will get involved and make sure something like this never happens again.

And yes, the SEC has announced an "investigation" into this 2 billion dollar loss. But we all know that the SEC is basically useless. In recent years SEC employees have become known more for watching pornography in their Washington D.C. offices than for regulating Wall Street. But what has become abundantly clear is that Wall Street is completely incapable of policing itself. This point was underscored in a recent commentary by Henry Blodget of Business Insider:

Wall Street can't be trusted to manage-or even correctly assess-its own risks.

This is in part because, time and again, Wall Street has demonstrated that it doesn't even KNOW what risks it is taking.
In short, Wall Street bankers are just a bunch of kids playing with dynamite.

There are two reasons for this, neither of which boil down to "stupidity."

• The first reason is that the gambling instruments the banks now use are mind-bogglingly complicated. Warren Buffett once described derivatives as "weapons of mass destruction." And those weapons have gotten a lot more complex in the past few years.

• The second reason is that Wall Street's incentive structure is fundamentally flawed: Bankers get all of the upside for winning bets, and someone else- the government or shareholders- covers the downside.

The second reason is particularly insidious. The worst thing that can happen to a trader who blows a huge bet and demolishes his firm-literally the worst thing- is that he will get fired. Then he will immediately go get a job at a hedge fund and make more than he was making before he blew up the firm.

We never learned one of the basic lessons that we should have learned from the financial crisis of 2008. Wall Street bankers take huge risks because the risk/reward ratio is all messed up. If the bankers make huge bets and they win, then they win big. If the bankers make huge bets and they lose, then the federal government uses taxpayer money to clean up the mess. Under those kind of conditions, why not bet the farm?

Sadly, most Americans do not even know what derivatives are. Most Americans have no idea that we are rapidly approaching a horrific derivatives crisis that is going to make 2008 look like a Sunday picnic. According to the Comptroller of the Currency, the "too big to fail" banks have exposure to derivatives that is absolutely mind blowing. Just check out the following numbers from an official U.S. government report....

• JPMorgan Chase - $70.1 Trillion

• Citibank - $52.1 Trillion

• Bank of America - $50.1 Trillion

• Goldman Sachs - $44.2 Trillion

So a 2 billion dollar loss for JPMorgan is nothing compared to its total exposure of over 70 trillion dollars. Overall, the 9 largest U.S. banks have a total of more than 200 trillion dollars of exposure to derivatives. That is approximately 3 times the size of the entire global economy. It is hard for the average person on the street to begin to comprehend how immense this derivatives bubble is.

So let's not make too much out of this 2 billion dollar loss by JPMorgan. This is just chicken feed. This is just a preview of coming attractions. Soon enough the real problems with derivatives will begin, and when that happens it will shake the entire global financial system to the core.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/07/12 04:19 PM

Here's the latest news about the progress of the new Global Economic Restruture. This is the highlights of Drakes latest radio show. Drake is the spokeman in the past couple of months for the US Military who is charged to prepare the US people for proper action. He's been maintaining many weekly radio shows and invited in many other shows.

This is his new website : http://americannationalmilitia.com/

------- the Highlights of his last radio show --------

Drake wants "the people" to vote on a proposal as to how the Dark Cabal/Banking Families need to surrender and on what terms. What is our demands? Options are to have an all-out war of violence in taking out the banking families or should we negotiate with the dark cabal to transition into a peaceful new way of freedom.


Do you (the people) want all-out war? If so the Civilian Military will be fighting the mercenaries and loyalist of the Dark Cabal/Bankers. It is estimated that 2/3 of both sides of the fight would be dead or wounded. Both sides want to transition without war or violence. A proposal needs to be written so that a peaceful transition can occur.


Three (3) principals are involved in this new proposal
1. We The People
2. Collateral Accounts Representatives
3. Banking Families/Dark Cabal

Banking families want to surrender but nothing is in writing. Banking families and the Civilian Military leaders want to know what “the people” want. What would the people except as a surrender.


The Proposal will be open for everyone to vote on about the transition to freedom. Lady Dragon will post a link to a poll on her website www.ladydragon.com . The link will be open June 7th at 12:00pm and will close on Saturday June 9th at 12:00pm. Drake will take the data collected and present it to the Civilian Military and the Banking Families. The proposal will be discussed among those who are at the top of the power structures from both sides. Results of votes will be sent to the Banking Families to show them what the people want. Drake: There will still be adjudications for those who committed crimes. Tuesday is the latest we should hear a response about how the banking families react to the proposal.


NESARA = Financial Freedom and Debt Forgiveness

-Taxes & The Federal Income Tax eliminated and to be replaced with “User Fees”
-Release of Advanced Technologies
-Collateral Accounts would be used to set up manufacturing facilities for development of Free Energy technologies which -would help create jobs and introduce energy independence
-IRS Eliminated
-Go back to the 1787 Constitution with the original 13th Amendment


Government and the Federal Reserve can no longer print money


Neil Keenan Lawsuit – Neil is thinking about withdrawing lawsuit and then refilling the liens against the Federal Reserve with additional backing by major countries and secret societies.


Drake knows about the frustration of waiting that people are feeling.


600-800 patents have been confiscated and hidden by the Federal Government


5% unemployment after the Collateral Accounts are released which can be used to build MFG facilities


Drake: Can you imagine being free in a month or sooner?


1.2 Trillion Dollars is the real national debt of the nation. The rest is of the debt is by banks and the USA Corporation.


There is technology that allows for the regeneration of severed limbs. The medical technology can regrow arms, legs, hands, and other appendages.


Free energy technologies for homes and cars.


After the changes there will be very little government left.


Drake wants this proposal to help with a peaceful transition.


Minute Man: Agrees with a proposal to help facilitate a peaceful transition. “I see an opportunity for new freedom.” Tired of fighting and don’t want to worry about my children and grandchildren.


Much more was discussed but this is the best I can do from the first round of listening live on air broadcast.
These Notes written by enerchi of http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/

See Below for Additional Notes from Jim of http://src-fla.us


* I Missed first 15 minutes. Live now; site keeps going down.
* Using New Link Above at 23 minute mark. I will restate from tape tomorrow.
* We need to go to local rule.
* Neil Keenan is considering refiling his lawsuit and having other countries
file with him.
* The banks are looking to surrender.
* Drake suggests we make an offer to the military??
* This is an open proposal to the people, bankers and military: Military - Stand down;
Banks stay open.
* He will set up a site where all can go to vote.
* [sounds like open negotiation time; nothing has been agreed upon]
* Voting from tomorrow until noon Saturday.
* Actual National debt is 1.3 Trillion; rest is bankers' debt.
* [Drake indicates that Keenan will refile and that a proposal will be made to the military
to stand down. If he is real, sounds like everything has crashed and we are
back to square one as far as legalities.]
* Voting Site: ladydragon.com , then go to page titled "Drake".
Voting page to be up by noon Thursday. Results to be sent to the key players.
* Lost connection past 3 minutes.
* His terms will require the majority of adverse legislation to be struck rescinded;
we go back to constitution.
* There will be no arrests. There may be an accounting and charges later.
* We have a choice: All out war with 2/3's casualties or Peaceful negotiation.
* The banking corporations are going broke and will be out of play.
* Illegal politicians will be adjudicated.
* The majority of the military and some of the bankers are in favor of a peace treaty.
They want to hear from the people feel about a treaty. They want terms.
* The treaty will give us freedom, hidden technologies and peace.
* The NESARA Act will financially compensate the people.
* Treaty removes Cabal's control over us. They are out of money.
* We will be free of the Crown of England.
* NESARA Act will strip the Cabal of its power; Released technology will boost the
economy; The military does not want to engage the people.
* The Peace Treaty will go before the congress for approval.
* The vote will later allow us to see the peace documents.
* The collateral accounts will prevent the printing of fiat currency.
* The Cabal is seeking surrender.
* Call in number for this show: 805-399-1200 code 153938
* Search "History of NESARA" It goes back to the 1800's. Hopefully it will be
posted on the Ladydragon.com website tomorrow.
* Currency RV's may or may not occur, based on the treaty. Dinar may still RV.
* Damaging actions against our health will stop per the peace treaty.
This will show how serious the Cabal is. The Cabal has made first contact for peace.
* There are other bargaining chips that the Cabal is not aware of. This involves Keenan
refiling the lawsuit with other countries as plaintiffs. This scares the Cabal.
* The Cabal will admit defeat and we will have our original freedom back.
Some of the Cabal will get prison time, but most will be free.
The Cabal is afraid the military and militias are about to come after them.
* NESARA will cause all debts to be zeroed out.
* If the treaty is reached, the drone programs will end immediately.
The people that control the military industrial complex are the ones asking for peace.
* It will be Monday or Tuesday before we will know if the offer is accepted.
* We will go back to original 13th Amendment.
* [Chat rooms are said to be most concerned about negotiations and unsure of
all of this.]
Recap Source: http://src-fla.us/index.php/news2e629
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/09/12 09:38 AM

At this moment, I do not know if Drake is a good guy or not, or mis-informed or not. I'm not proposing nor encouraging anyone to vote. If you are considering it, let the Spirit guide you.

It seems this peaceful surrendering for the Cabals is what is taking place right now. It made me think of 1The 5:3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. "

This is an important time for prayers. Let's be watchful of what the Lord has in mind to do and to reveal us. The news will be interesting the next coming two weeks.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/13/12 12:59 PM

It is said that the Mass Arrest will still be an option but only as a last resort if the Cabals don't surrender. So from June 15 to June 20th there will be very important meetings of negotiations. Apparently, the Cabals wants surrender and knows they are toast.

If the meetings are not fruitful or satisfactory to the demands, then the White Dragon Society(Kings of the East) will resort to mass arrest or measure of that sort on June 21st or soon after. Watch the news. Time will soon tell.

Here's the latest news by Benjamin Fulford. It's only the highlights for most of it.

--------------- Highlights -----------------------------------------------


-There will be a series of both secret and public high-level meetings from June 15 to June 20th aimed at ending the financial crisis… The hope is that the G20 meeting set to start on June 18th will lead to a breakthrough.

-To help make that possible, the White Dragon Society sent a message to the Committee of 300 proposing the announcement of a campaign, similar in intensity to a world war, aimed at ending poverty, stopping environmental destruction, eliminating disease and otherwise trying to save our wonderful, but ailing planet.

If the committee responds positively and yet the high-level financial blockage continues, then the next level response will be directed at the P2 freemason lodge and the BIS, according to sources involved in the negotiations.

-The other culprit known to be directly involved in stopping the new financial system is… Barak Obama, hired hand for the Federal Reserve Board owning cabal families.

-the Bushes, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, the Black Pope and a who’s who of the Western power elite have already been offering astronomical bribes to White Dragon Society members…

-What the cabal families do not have is what they need the most, the goodwill of the people of the planet earth.

-We also need to keep in mind the possibility that the blockage of the financial system in the West does not originate either with the Federal Reserve Board families, the committee of 300, the P2, the BIS or any other human organization. In that case, the rogue artificial intelligence story being put out by MJ12 will have to be taken seriously. It would mean temporarily ending all electronic money, unplugging all bank and financial institution computers and reverting temporarily to cash and carry until the system can be safely rebooted. This is the worst case scenario for financial system collapse. It will mean considerable, temporary, hardship but not mass starvation.

-In any case, enough people have become aware of the scam that is privately owned fiat (out of nothing) money that the genie cannot be put back into the bottle. The process of monetary creation and distribution will have to be carried out in total transparency from now on.

-The cabal will also have to start telling the truth about their secret rule… appearing before a… truth and reconciliation committee and talking about their crimes against humanity in exchange for forgiveness.

-It will involve a total rewriting of history… opening the Vatican library to international scholars would be a good place to start.

-The White Dragon Society believes that from now on humans will only need one commandment: “do unto others (including non-human others) as you would have others do unto you.”

-One cabal family member seemed perplexed and scared and in awe of the idea of people being set free. The cabalists somehow think civilization will collapse…
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/13/12 03:57 PM

Anyone who wants to see all kinds of links concerning Bank high profile resignations since Feb 20th 2012, there is a 56 pages compilation of "Massive Bank and High Profile Resignations Across the World" by Sabrina at this link : http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthre...cross-the-World

Also found on page 56 this video clip.

Massive Debt Collapse with Author, F. William Engdahl

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/13/12 09:30 PM

I noticed on the forum list, the topic, "Ufology, Extraterrestrial Contact", caught my eye.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/14/12 01:19 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
I noticed on the forum list, the topic, "Ufology, Extraterrestrial Contact", caught my eye.

And? Project Avalon Forum is a worldwide forum and it so happen that many in this world believes in ETs. ETs beleivers has as much rights to Free Speech as to Christian does and others.

What does this has to do with the Economic Restructure at hand?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/14/12 09:04 PM

Sorry, I mistakenly thought project avalon was a specific project of some sort. Do you think it was wrong that UFOs caught my eye?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/15/12 11:55 AM

Spain's bailout loan questioned by Britain's Nigel Farage at European Parliament

The UK's Nigel Farage appears before the European Parliament in this short video:



He concludes that "the Euro Titanic has now hit the Iceberg and sadly there simply aren't enough lifeboats."

The short speach shows the ridiculous terms of last week end's Spanish bailout. It was actually a 3% loan from the European Central Bank, and he says that 20% of that loan had to come from Italy.

So Italy has to borrow $20 billion at close to 7% interest in order to loan the money to Spain at 3%.

Where's the wisdom in that deal, especially when Italy appears to be the next in line for a bailout. Perhaps Italy will then get a similar 3% loan, and Spain will have to borrow money at near 7% to loan to Italy???
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/16/12 04:31 AM

Gordon Brown says France and Italy may need bailout

Posted by Linda Joslin on June 15, 2012 at 7:27pm

Gordon Brown has warned that France and Italy may need to be bailed out like Spain because of the unfolding eurozone crisis.

The former UK prime minister said it was not only Greece, Portugal and Ireland facing the threat of euro exit. But, he added, some of the EU's largest countries such as France, Spain and Italy were also at risk.

Mr Brown also warned that Germany might have to seek additional funding to safeguard its banks.

In a stark warning ahead of next week's G20 summit in Los Cabos, Mexico, Mr Brown said: "The euro area is finally approaching its own day of reckoning."

The former PM said, in a blog for Reuters, that "we are in a downward spiral that shows no sign of ending."

He accused EU leaders of adopting "well-meaning half measures."
"If there is a failure of global leadership next week [at the G20], not only will Europe be condemned to a lost decade but the whole world will pay a fearful price."

The G20 summit is a meeting of 19 countries plus the European Union, which between them account for 80% of global gross domestic product and 80% of global trade.

As host, Mexico's President Felipe Calderon wants the summit to concentrate on how to reduce food price volatility, promote green growth, and boost investment in scientific and agricultural technology.

But in truth, the eurozone crisis is likely to overshadow proceedings, with all eyes on Germany as the potential answer to the region's debt crisis.

Germany 'not immune'

Mr Brown accused eurozone leaders of seeking to "wish away" Spain's banking problems by providing only 100 billion euros of credit when their banks had two trillion euros of liabilities.

Mr Brown also predicted that Italy and France may have to follow Spain in seeking a rescue package for their banks.
"Even German banks," he said, "which are some of the most highly leveraged, are not immune from needing more capital."

Mr Brown said "the final showdown" could be postponed but eurozone leaders had to accept "the inescapable logic" of a fiscal union.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18460596
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/18/12 10:00 AM

Silver drachma and a Jubilee(erase of debts) proposed to resolve Greek debt crisis

Max Keiser and Mexican businessman Hugo Price discuss the Greek problem and propose a serious solution.



They suggest that Greece sell 5% of its 110 tons of gold and use the proceeds to issue silver drachmas while also printing up a new paper currency. Toward the end of the interview, they include a cancellation of debt to kick off this new revolutionary monetary policy.

Issuing paper drachmas would satisfy the liberal Greeks who like paper in their wallets and who want to support the Babylonian banking system. Issuing silver drachmas would satisfy the conservative Greeks who prefer to keep their savings in silver.

The main difference is that paper money always goes down in value gradually even in the best of times, and over time this "inflation" erodes the value of people's savings. Silver goes up in over time, so their savings would go up over time, rather than down.

What they are proposing is essentially a war on banks and its paper creation, because if people are given two official government-sponsored currencies--one paper and one silver--the people will soon see the value of silver as an asset. The paper debt note will be shunned, while the asset will be put into savings or used on the street to buy goods and services.


This 20-minute interview is a very practical solution to the entire Greek financial crisis. Also this solution is applicable to any other country.

We do not need to wait for our government to act and provide a silver currency. Any individual that acts to secure their savings by transfering its paper value into silver values will be 1. securing their savings, 2. warring against the Cabals Financial Tyranny.

Keiser says that the silver, because of its true value, is like a silver bullet that is sent directly in the banksters head, or a silver cross that the vampires fear in the sight of it and run away from.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/18/12 05:49 PM

The only value silver has, aside from it's use in industry, is the value people put on it. Which is the same as with paper.

Gold, silver, paper. Not much use. Except for paper, you could start a fire to keep warm for a short time. Gold can't even be used to pound a nail in a board. It could be used to hold down your papers for starting fires. As others have said, gold and silver do not have very much value, but guns and gas do.

Gold - just so much pavement.
Posted By: Green Cochoa

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/18/12 06:01 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
The only value silver has, aside from it's use in industry, is the value people put on it. Which is the same as with paper.

Gold, silver, paper. Not much use. Except for paper, you could start a fire to keep warm for a short time. Gold can't even be used to pound a nail in a board. It could be used to hold down your papers for starting fires. As others have said, gold and silver do not have very much value, but guns and gas do.

Gold - just so much pavement.
If you don't know the utility of gold and silver in today's world, such a conclusion is unsurprising.

There are auctions on ebay these days for old computer parts--essentially trash--just for the recovery of their precious metals.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.
Posted By: gordonb1

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/18/12 06:39 PM


"Precious metals" only have the value as given by the market. In a functioning economy, where demand is high for natural resources to build iPhones, satellites and cars, these metals have worth.

But when the economy is flat, no one buys, no one builds. Those with cash 'run to gold' to preserve their wealth in something tangible. But this 'gold wealth' is based upon the value which others give it. It's temporary and has always depended upon economic recovery.

People need to eat, but gold and silver are inedible.

___________________________
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/18/12 07:30 PM

Green,

What Gordon said.
Posted By: Green Cochoa

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/19/12 08:03 AM

"Gold - just so much pavement."

That's the comment I was responding to. I have yet to see gold used as pavement anywhere I've trod. It has a bit more value than that. It is worth more than paper for good reason. If we were to pay for things in paper, plastic, or gold, I can tell you which of the three would have more inherent worth and tend to hold its value over time.

Paper is a renewable resource, and of seemingly unlimited supply. Gold is a commodity which is much more restricted. Supply and demand.

If you demand the paper or plastic, then it may have some worth. But there may come a time when dollars have no more value than fire starter. Of course, gold cannot start a fire. But it will have value for other areas of usefulness. Just because you may not be able to start a fire on gold doesn't make it worthless--unless, of course, you have no desire for anything other than starting a fire.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/19/12 09:26 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
The only value silver has, aside from it's use in industry, is the value people put on it. Which is the same as with paper.

I appreciate your(Kland, GC, & Gordon) interest on the topic. I need to agree that people today value more paper than silver. However, they have been conditioned to think this way by the Banksters for many years.

These are the current factors that we need to consider :

1)the people are starting to be aware of the Bankster's(Cabals) tyranny and agenda which is slavery to debts,

2) Countries’ government are controlled by the Cabals

3)The Cabals created paper money out of thin air – no backing whatsoever

4)JPMorgan and other Banksters has been suppressing the market prices of silver(and other commodities) so to keep the people trust in paper.

5)The economy crash of 2009 is a picnic compare to what is unfolding now with over 200 Trillions dollars current exposed derivatives in the USA alone, and other realities that is still hidden. Reality is Mystery Babylon is falling -- has fallen.

6)Many traders and economist has been saying for over a year now, that all paper assets will be lost by the end of 2012. This is not that hard to believe with a major worldwide economy crash at hand.

7)Max Keiser's silver campaign is very sound advice to save the people’s assets, and to directly war against Mystery Babylon’s Financial Tyranny and slavery.

Originally Posted By: kland
Gold, silver, paper. Not much use. Except for paper, you could start a fire to keep warm for a short time. Gold can't even be used to pound a nail in a board. It could be used to hold down your papers for starting fires. As others have said, gold and silver do not have very much value, but guns and gas do.

Silver has many uses in technology and have much more uses than gold. It is true that we cannot eat gold or silver, however it has been a reliable use for currencies between nations all through history.

Nations needs a reliable currency to trade with. It is true that at times we can trade potatoes for hay between neighbors; however, it is not always very practical to trade in such manner always. Gold and more so, silver was always been the choice currencies that went through the test of time.

Also, the Lord recognizes Silver as a currency and even fixed a price to it " a homer of barley seed at fifty shekels of silver."(lev 26:16)

I see this as the Lord’s Barley/Silver Standard which set’s a non-inflationary economy. It denote the amount of labor to mine and refine a shekel of silver compared to the labor needed to produce a homer of barley.

Both silver and barley come from the earth, and The Lord claims both the land and all mineral rights. "The silver is Mine, and the gold is Mine, declares the Lord of hosts." Haggai 2:8

The fact that the Lord claims ownership of all He created is that men cannot speculate on something they do not own and set prices on these as it has been and is customary today. This is usurpation when we do. Plus charging interest is violating G-d’s laws.

God has established laws for a stable economy that is based upon production and labor--true wealth--rather than speculative wealth which leads to inflationary and deflationary cycles. The world is in need to return to the Lord’s Laws and ways.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/20/12 09:57 PM

ICELAND. No news from Iceland?… why?

Link : http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-787377

How come we hear everything that happens in Egypt but no news about what’s happening in Iceland:

In Iceland, the people has made the government resign, the primary banks have been nationalized, it was decided to not pay the debt that these created with Great Britain and Holland due to their bad financial politics and a public assembly has been created to rewrite the constitution.

And all of this in a peaceful way. A whole revolution against the powers that have created the current global crisis. This is why there hasn’t been any publicity during the last two years: What would happen if the rest of the EU citizens took this as an example? What would happen if the US citizens took this as an example.

This is a summary of the facts:

2008. The main bank of the country is nationalized.
The Krona, the currency of Iceland devaluates and the stock market stops. The country is in bankruptcy

2008. The citizens protest in front of parliament and manage to get new elections that make the resignation of the prime minister and his whole government.
The country is in bad economic situation.
A law proposes paying back the debt to Great Britain and Holland through the payment of 3,500 million euros, which will be paid by the people of Iceland monthly during the next 15 years, with a 5.5% interest.

2010. The people go out in the streets and demand a referendum. In January 2010 the president denies the approval and announces a popular meeting.
In March the referendum and the denial of payment is voted in by 93%. Meanwhile the government has initiated an investigation to bring to justice those responsible for the crisis, and many high level executives and bankers are arrested. The Interpol dictates an order that make all the implicated parties leave the country.

In this crisis an assembly is elected to rewrite a new Constitution which can include the lessons learned from this, and which will substitute the current one (a copy of the Danish Constitution).
25 citizens are chosen, with no political affiliation, out of the 522 candidates. For candidacy all that was needed was to be an adult and have the support of 30 people. The constitutional assembly starts in February of 2011 to present the ‘carta magna’ from the recommendations given by the different assemblies happening throughout the country. It must be approved by the current Parliament and by the one constituted through the next legislative elections.

So in summary of the Icelandic revolution:
-resignation of the whole government
-nationalization of the bank.
-referendum so that the people can decide over the economic decisions.
-incarcerating the responsible parties
-rewriting of the constitution by its people

Have we been informed of this through the media?
Has any political program in radio or TV commented on this?
No! The Icelandic people have been able to show that there is a way to beat the system and has given a democracy lesson to the world
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/20/12 10:03 PM

Iceland Dismantles Corrupt Gov’t Then Arrests All Rothschild Bankers

Read more: http://www.disclose.tv/news/Iceland_Dism...5#ixzz1yMU2FaTw

Link : http://www.disclose.tv/news/Iceland_Dism...d_Bankers/85375


June 20, 2012 - Since the 1900′s the vast majority of the American population has dreamed about saying “NO” to the Unconstitutional, corrupt, Rothschild/Rockefeller banking criminals, but no one has dared to do so. Why? If just half of our Nation, and the “1%”, who pay the majority of the taxes, just said NO MORE! Our Gov’t would literally change over night. Why is it so hard, for some people to understand, that by simply NOT giving your money, to large Corporations, who then send jobs, Intellectual Property, etc. offshore and promote anti-Constitutional rights… You will accomplish more, than if you used violence. In other words… RESEARCH WHERE YOU ARE SENDING EVERY SINGLE PENNY!!! Is that so hard? The truth of the matter is… No one, except the Icelanders, have to been the only culture on the planet to carry out this successfully. Not only have they been successful, at overthrowing the corrupt Gov’t, they’ve drafted a Constitution, that will stop this from happening ever again. That’s not the best part… The best part, is that they have arrested ALL Rothschild/Rockefeller banking puppets, responsible for the Country’s economic Chaos and meltdown.

Last week 9 people were arrested in London and Reykjavik for their possible responsibility for Iceland’s financial collapse in 2008, a deep crisis which developed into an unprecedented public reaction that is changing the country’s direction.

It has been a revolution without weapons in Iceland, the country that hosts the world’s oldest democracy (since 930), and whose citizens have managed to effect change by going on demonstrations and banging pots and pans. Why have the rest of the Western countries not even heard about it?

Pressure from Icelandic citizens’ has managed not only to bring down a government, but also begin the drafting of a new constitution (in process) and is seeking to put in jail those bankers responsible for the financial crisis in the country. As the saying goes, if you ask for things politely it is much easier to get them.

This quiet revolutionary process has its origins in 2008 when the Icelandic government decided to nationalise the three largest banks, Landsbanki, Kaupthing and Glitnir, whose clients were mainly British, and North and South American.

After the State took over, the official currency (krona) plummeted and the stock market suspended its activity after a 76% collapse. Iceland was becoming bankrupt and to save the situation, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) injected U.S. $ 2,100 million and the Nordic countries helped with another 2,500 million.

Great little victories of ordinary people

While banks and local and foreign authorities were desperately seeking economic solutions, the Icelandic people took to the streets and their persistent daily demonstrations outside parliament in Reykjavik prompted the resignation of the conservative Prime Minister Geir H. Haarde and his entire government.

Citizens demanded, in addition, to convene early elections, and they succeeded. In April a coalition government was elected, formed by the Social Democratic Alliance and the Left Green Movement, headed by a new Prime Minister, Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir.

Throughout 2009 the Icelandic economy continued to be in a precarious situation (at the end of the year the GDP had dropped by 7%) but, despite this, the Parliament proposed to repay the debt to Britain and the Netherlands with a payment of 3,500 million Euros, a sum to be paid every month by Icelandic families for 15 years at 5.5% interest.

The move sparked anger again in the Icelanders, who returned to the streets demanding that, at least, that decision was put to a referendum. Another big small victory for the street protests: in March 2010 that vote was held and an overwhelming 93% of the population refused to repay the debt, at least with those conditions.

This forced the creditors to rethink the deal and improve it, offering 3% interest and payment over 37 years. Not even that was enough. The current president, on seeing that Parliament approved the agreement by a narrow margin, decided last month not to approve it and to call on the Icelandic people to vote in a referendum so that they would have the last word.

The bankers are fleeing in fear

Returning to the tense situation in 2010, while the Icelanders were refusing to pay a debt incurred by financial sharks without consultation, the coalition government had launched an investigation to determine legal responsibilities for the fatal economic crisis and had already arrested several bankers and top executives closely linked to high risk operations.

Interpol, meanwhile, had issued an international arrest warrant against Sigurdur Einarsson, former president of one of the banks. This situation led scared bankers and executives to leave the country en masse.

In this context of crisis, an assembly was elected to draft a new constitution that would reflect the lessons learned and replace the current one, inspired by the Danish constitution.

To do this, instead of calling experts and politicians, Iceland decided to appeal directly to the people, after all they have sovereign power over the law. More than 500 Icelanders presented themselves as candidates to participate in this exercise in direct democracy and write a new constitution. 25 of them, without party affiliations, including lawyers, students, journalists, farmers and trade union representatives were elected.

Among other developments, this constitution will call for the protection, like no other, of freedom of information and expression in the so-called Icelandic Modern Media Initiative, in a bill that aims to make the country a safe haven for investigative journalism and freedom of information, where sources, journalists and Internet providers that host news reporting are protected.

The people, for once, will decide the future of the country while bankers and politicians witness the transformation of a nation from the sidelines.

Sources and more information:

• GLOBAL ELITES THROWN OUT OF ICELAND: Iceland Dismantles Corrupt Gov't Then Arrests All Rothschild Bankers

Author: The Meister Since the 1900 s the vast majority of the American population has dreamed about saying "NO" to the Unconstitutional, corrupt, Rothschild Rockefeller banking criminals, but no one has dared to do so. Why? If just half of our Nation, and the "1 ", who pay the majority of the taxes, just said NO MORE! Our Gov't would literally...
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/20/12 11:18 PM

Iceland's Example to the World

http://www.hermes-press.com/iceland_index.htm

The people of Iceland have demonstrated what citizens of all nations should do:

Reject the fraudulent idea that debts perpetrated by capitalist leaders should be borne by "the people"

Arrest and convict capitalist leaders who commit political and economic crimes

Negate fraudulent mortgage debt created by capitalist criminals (April, 2012)

"This is awesome. It shows when the people DO STAND UP they have more power and win against the corrupt bankers and politicians of a country. Iceland is forgiving and erasing the mortgage debt of the population. They are putting the bankers and politicians on the 'Bench of the Accused.' Which means I assume they are putting them on trial for corruption.
"Now the rest of people of the world need to start doing the same thing. We all need to stand up and against all the corruption and fraud of the banks and politicians that are puppets of the banks and corporations."

Whatever fate befalls Iceland in the future, its people have provided an example for citizens the world over to follow. This is a way forward for the American political and economic system. As we'll see in the section of this essay on Iceland's history, Iceland has been controlled and criminally manipulated by a capitalist junta similar to the American cabal, and is still somewhat under the thumb of this junta to this day. Despite, the depredations of the Icelandic junta, however, Icelandic citizens have been able to elect a number of more progressive leaders and reject responsibility for Icelandic capitalist debts.

The people of Iceland twice voted not to repay international debts incurred by banksters, rejecting the idea that "the people" are responsible for bankster debts.

Icelandic citizens held a first referendum in the spring of 2009 to decide whether the people should pay for the criminally incurred debts of the banksters and whether their government could impose these debts on the people without their consent. Ninety-three percent voted no!

In April of 2011 the Icelandic citizens held a second referendum to decide whether to accept or reject a government-concocted agreement negotiated between Iceland, the Netherlands and the UK to pay back the British and Dutch governments for the money they spent to recompense savers with the failed Icesave bank. Covering the debt would have cost Iceland's 317,000 citizens around $17,000 each. Again, they voted to reject the capitalist "agreement;" this time by close to sixty percent (58.9%).

This rejection of the bankster "agreement" was highly significant since current European governments, pressured by speculators such as Goldman Sachs, JPMorganChase, the IMF, and the European Commission were calling for the imposition of austerity measures on Icelandic citizens, for which they had not voted. After the second Icelandic referendum, even the pro-capitalist Financial Times on 4/13/2011 had to acknowledge that Icelandic citizens had voted to "put citizens before banks."

To see how and why all this transpired in Iceland, we need to review what capitalist atrocities they had experienced. The economic terrorism visited upon Icelandic citizens is essentially the same as that suffered by American and other citizens throughout the world.

Iceland's History
"After more than 600 years of foreign rule, Iceland's social structure was the most feudal of all Nordic countries at the beginning of the 20th century. Fishing dominated the economy, generating most of the foreign-currency earnings and allowing the development of an import-based commercial sector. This created urban economic activities: construction, services, light industry. After the second world war the economy grew strongly, because of Marshall Plan aid (there was a large US-Nato military base); an abundant export commodity, cold-water fish, unusually blessed with high income elasticity of demand; and a small, literate population with a strong sense of national identity.

"As Iceland became more prosperous it established a welfare state, in line with the tax-financed Scandinavian model, and by the 1980s had attained a level and a distribution of disposable income equal to the Nordic average. Yet it remained both more regulated and more patron-client-dominated than its European neighbours; a local oligopoly restricted the political and economic landscape.

"There is a direct line of descent from the quasi-feudal power structures of the 19th century to the modernised Icelandic capitalism of the later 20th century, when a bloc of 14 families, popularly known as The Octopus, were the economic and political ruling elite. The Octopus controlled imports, transport, banking, insurance, fishing and supplies to the Nato base and provided most top politicians. The families lived like chieftains.

"The Octopus controlled the rightwing Independence Party (IP) which dominated the media and decided on senior appointments in the civil service, police and judiciary. The local, state-owned banks were effectively run by the dominant parties, the IP and the Centre Party or CP. Ordinary people had to go through party functionaries to get loans to buy a car, or for foreign exchange for travel abroad. Power networks operated as webs of bullying, sycophancy and distrust, permeated with a macho culture, something like the former Soviet Union.

"This traditional order was challenged from within by a neoliberal faction, the Locomotive group, which had coalesced in the early 1970s after law and business administration students at the University of Iceland took over a journal, The Locomotive, and promoted free-market ideas. Their aim was not just to transform the society but also to open career opportunities for themselves, rather than wait for Octopus patronage. At the end of the cold war their position strengthened materially and ideologically, as the communists and social democrats lost public support. The future IP prime minister, David Oddsson, was a prominent member.

"Oddsson, born in 1948 with a middle-class background, was elected as an IP councillor to the Reykjavik municipal council in 1974; by 1982 he was mayor of Reykjavik, leading privatisation campaigns, including selling off the municipality's fishing industry, to the benefit of members of the Locomotive group. In 1991 he led the IP to victory in the general election, and reigned (not too strong a word) as prime minister for 14 years, overseeing the growth of the financial sector, before installing himself as governor of the Central Bank in 2004. He had little experience or interest in the world beyond Iceland. His Locomotive group protégé Geir Haarde, finance minister from 1998 to 2005, took over as prime minister shortly after. These two men most directly steered Iceland's great experiment to create an international financial centre in the North Atlantic, midway between Europe and America.

"The liberalisation of the economy began in 1994, when accession to the European Economic Area, the free-trade bloc of EU countries, plus Iceland, Lichtenstein and Norway, lifted restrictions on cross-border flows of capital, goods, services and people. The Oddsson government then sold off state-owned assets and deregulated labour. Privatisation began in 1998, implemented by Oddsson and Halldor Asgrimsson, the leader of the CP. Of the banks, Landsbanki was allocated to IP grandees, Kaupthing to their counterparts in the CP, its coalition partner; foreign bidders were excluded. Later, Glitnir, a private bank formed from the merger of several smaller ones, joined the league.

"So Iceland roared into international finance aided globally by abundant cheap credit and free capital mobility, and domestically by strong political backing for the banks. The new banks merged investment banking with commercial banking, so that both shared government guarantees. And the country had low sovereign debt, which gave the banks high marks from the international credit-rating agencies. The major shareholders of Landsbanki, Kaupthing, Glitnir and their spin-offs reversed the earlier political dominance of finance: government policy was now subordinated to the ends of finance.

"Oddsson and friends relaxed the state-provided mortgage rules, allowing 90% loans. The newly privatised banks rushed to offer even more generous terms. Income tax and VAT rates were lowered to turn Iceland into a low-tax international financial centre. Bubble dynamics took hold. City planners aimed to move Reykjavik from the trajectory of an ordinary city to that of a world city (despite its small population of 110,000) and approved several grandiose new public and private buildings, saying "If Dubai, why not Reykjavik?"

"Iceland's new banking elite were intent on expanding their ownership of the economy, competing and cooperating with each other. Using their shares as collateral, some took out large loans from their own banks, and bought more shares in the same banks, inflating share prices. It worked like this: Bank A lent to shareholders in Bank B, who bought more shares in B using shares as collateral, raising B's share price. Bank B returned the favour. The share prices of both banks rose, without new money coming in. The banks not only grew bigger, they grew more and more interconnected. Several dealings of this kind are now under criminal investigation by the special prosecutor, as cases of market manipulation.

"Tiny Iceland soon managed to enter the big-bank league, with three banks in the world's biggest 300 by 2006. The super-abundance of credit allowed people to consume in extravagant celebration of their escape from the earlier decades of credit rationing (on top of the earlier escape from foreign rule as recently as 1944). They saw themselves as fully independent at last, which may explain their happiness ranking. The owners and managers remunerated themselves on an ever-larger scale. The richer they were, the more they attracted political support. Their private jets, roaring in and out of Reykjavik's airport, seemed to be visual and auditory proof to the part-admiring, part-envious population below. Income and wealth inequality surged, helped by government policies that shifted the tax burden to the poorer population. The bankers made large financial contributions to the governing parties and giant loans to key politicians. The leading Icelandic champion of free-market economics declared in The Wall Street Journal: "Oddsson's experiment with liberal policies is the greatest success story in the world."

"In the euphoria, the dangers of a strategy of "economic growth based on vast foreign borrowing" were overlooked. Icelanders lived out the dictum of Plautus, the third century BC Roman playwright, who had one of his characters declare: 'I am a rich man, as long as I do not repay my creditors.'

"In 2006 there were worries in the financial press about the stability of the big banks, which were beginning to have problems raising funds in the money markets (on which their business model depended). Iceland's current account deficit had soared from 5% of GDP in 2003 to 20% in 2006, one of the highest in the world. The stock market multiplied itself nine times over between 2001 and 2007.

"Landsbanki, Kaupthing and Glitnir were operating far beyond the capacity of Iceland's Central Bank to support them as lender of last resort; their liabilities were real, but many of their assets were dubious. In February 2006 Fitch downgraded Iceland's outlook from stable to negative and triggered the 2006 'mini-crisis': the krona fell sharply, the value of banks' liabilities in foreign currencies rose, the stock market fell and business defaults rose, and the sustainability of foreign-currency debts became a public problem, The Danske Bank of Copenhagen described Iceland as a "geyser economy" on the point of exploding.


"The lesson here is instructive across the pond, but it is a chilling one. If the U.S.--or any sovereign for that matter--attempts to restructure their debts, or to force private investors to take a haircut on their own foolish gambles, these international institutions have promised the equivalent of economic war in response. However, the alternative is for representative governments to sacrifice their independence to a cadre of faceless bankers who share no allegiance to any nation.

"It is the conflict that has already defined the beginning of the 21st Century. The question is whether free peoples will choose to remain free, as Iceland has, or to submit."


"Icelandic bankers and politicians brushed aside the crisis. Iceland's Central Bank took out a loan to double the foreign-exchange reserves, while the Chamber of Commerce, run by representatives of Landsbanki, Kaupthing, Glitnir and their spin-offs, responded with a PR campaign. It paid the American monetary economist Frederic Mishkin $135,000 to lend his name to a report attesting to the stability of Iceland's banks. It allegedly paid the London Business School economist Richard Portes £58,000 ($95,000) to do the same for a later report. The supply-side economist Arthur Laffer assured the Icelandic business community in 2007 that fast economic growth with a large trade deficit and ballooning foreign debt were signs of success: 'Iceland should be a model to the world.' The value of the banks' 'assets' was then around eight times greater than Iceland's GDP.

"In the elections of May 2007, the Social Democratic Alliance (SDA) entered a coalition government with the still-dominant IP. To the consternation of many supporters, SDA leaders ditched their pre-election pledges and endorsed the continued expansion of the financial sector.

"Though they had survived 2006, Landsbanki, Kaupthing and Glitnir had trouble raising money to fund their asset purchases and repay existing debts, largely denominated in foreign currencies. So Landsbanki pioneered Icesave, an internet-based service that aimed to win retail savings deposits by offering more attractive interest rates than high-street banks. Established in Britain in October 2006, and in the Netherlands 18 months later, Icesave caught the attention of best buy internet finance sites and was soon flooded with deposits. Millions of pounds arrived from Cambridge University, the London Metropolitan Police Authority, even the UK Audit Commission, responsible for overseeing local government funds, as well as 300,000 Icesave depositors in the UK alone.

"Icesave entities were legally established as branches, rather than subsidiaries, so they were under the supervision of the Icelandic authorities, rather than their hosts. No one noticed that the Icelandic regulatory agency had a total staff, including receptionist, of only 45 and suffered high turnover as many went on to join the banks, which offered better pay. No one worried much that, because of Iceland's obligations as a member of the EEA deposit insurance scheme, its population of 320,000 would be responsible for compensating the depositors abroad in the event of failure. Landsbanki's shareholders reaped the short-term profits while most Icelanders didn't know anything about Icesave at all.

"The second 'solution' to difficulties in raising new funds was a way to get more access to liquidity without pledging real assets as collateral. The Big Three sold debt securities to a smaller regional bank, which took these bonds to the Central Bank and borrowed against them, without having to supply further collateral; they then lent back to the initiating big bank. The bonds were called 'love letters' -- mere promises. By participating in this game and accepting as collateral claims on other Icelandic banks the central bank was conniving in the banks' strategy of gambling for resurrection.

"Then the banks internationalised the process: the Big Three established subsidiaries in Luxembourg and sold love letters to them. The subsidiaries sold them on to the Central Bank of Luxembourg or the European Central Bank and received cash in return, which they could pass back to the parent bank in Iceland or use themselves. The OECD calculates that just the domestic love letters, between the CBI and the Icelandic banks, incurred losses to the CBI and the Treasury of 13% of GDP (OECD Economic Surveys: Iceland, June 2011).

"The Icelandic banks fell two weeks after Lehman Brothers. On 29 September 2008, Glitnir approached Oddsson at the Central Bank for help with its looming liquidity problem. To restore confidence, Oddsson instructed the Central Bank to buy 75% of Glitnir's shares. The effect was not to boost Glitnir but to undermine confidence in Iceland. The country's rating plunged, and credit lines were withdrawn from Landsbanki and Kaupthing. A run on Icesave's overseas branches began. Oddsson moved on 7 October 2008 to peg the krona to a basket of currencies at close to the pre-crisis value. With the currency tumbling and in the absence of capital controls, the foreign-exchange reserves were exhausted: the peg lasted for only a few hours, just long enough for those in the know to change their money out of the krona at a much more favourable rate. Inside sources indicate that billions left the currency in these hours. Then the krona was floated, and sank. On 8 October the then UK prime minister, Gordon Brown, froze Landsbanki's UK assets under the anti-terrorism laws. The stock market, bank bonds, house prices and average income went into free-fall.


"The IMF arrived in Reykjavik in October 2008 to prepare a crisis-management programme, the first time the Fund had been called in to rescue a developed economy since Britain in 1976. It offered a conditional loan of $2.1bn to stabilise the krona and backed the British and Dutch governments' demands that Iceland should honour the obligations of the European deposit-guarantee scheme and recompense them for their bailouts of Icesave depositors.


"Iceland's normally placid population erupted in an angry protest movement, principally targeted at Haarde, Oddsson and the IP, although the SDA's foreign minister Ingibjorg Gisladottir was considered tarnished too. Thousands of people assembled in Reykjavik's main square on freezing Saturday afternoons between October 2008 and January 2009, banged saucepans, linked arms in a circle around the parliament building to demand the government's resignation, and pelted the building with food.

"In January 2009, the IP-SDA coalition broke. To date, Iceland is the only country to have shifted distinctly to the left after the financial crisis. An interim SDA-LGM (Social Democrats-Left Green Movement) government was formed in January 2009 to lead until April's election. In the election the IP was reduced to 16 seats, despite the overwhelming bias of the electoral system in its favour, its worst result since its formation in 1929.

"The SDA-LGM government came under immediate pressure to repay the Icesave debt; much of the IMF loan was withheld until Reykjavik agreed. The new government was also divided on whether to apply for full membership of the EU and Eurozone, with most of the SDA strongly in favour. After long negotiations, the government presented the terms they had agreed on the Icesave debt to the parliament in October 2009: £5.5bn ($7.8bn), or 50% of Iceland's GDP, was to be paid to the British and Dutch treasuries between 2016 and 2023.


"The party's health minister resigned in protest, five dissidents refused to vote with the government. The bill was forced through on 30 December 2009, against high feelings in the country. On 5 January 2010 President Grimsson announced that he would not sign it into law, out of respect for the national sentiment. In the ensuing referendum the bill was decisively rejected. In the May 2010 Reykjavik municipal elections, the SDA slumped to 19% and a comedian was elected as the city's mayor. In October protests resumed, and the coalition conceded the election of a constitutional assembly to draw up a new constitution (the existing one having been inherited from Denmark on independence in 1944). When the election was invalidated by the Supreme Court, the assembly was reconvened as a constitutional council appointed by parliament.

"The deal on the table in this April's second Icesave referendum involved substantial concessions on the part of the British and Dutch governments. After the no vote, the disagreement may have to go to international courts.

"The cost of losses on loans and guarantees, added to the cost of restructuring financial organisations, brings the total direct fiscal costs of the crisis to about 20% of GDP, higher than in any other country except Ireland (OECD Economic Surveys, Iceland, June 2011). But the postponement of major public spending cuts until this year [2011] has given the economy breathing space; and the sharp devaluation has helped to generate a trade surplus for the first time in many years. So far, Iceland has experienced smaller falls in GDP and employment than big public-spending slashers like Ireland, Estonia and Lithuania. The unemployment rate, only 2% in 2006, has been between 7% and 9% since 2009; but the rate of outmigration, of Icelanders and other European workers (predominantly Polish), has been the highest since 1889. However, the SDA-LGM government has announced drastic cuts in public spending for 2011 and beyond. Local governments have no budget for fresh projects. Hospitals and schools are cutting salaries and sacking employees. The freeze on house repossessions expired in 2010.

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"The IP-SDA government's decision to provide unlimited bank deposit guarantees illustrates its debt to the financial elite. Had it limited the guarantee to 5m krona ($70,000), it would have protected the entire deposits of 95% of depositors; only the wealthiest 5%, including many politicians, benefited from the unlimited guarantee, which now means further constraints on public spending.

"Iceland's tiny scale seemed to make it easier to challenge the government's denial of the impending crisis, but the opposite was true. The Oddsson government undertook an extreme privatisation of information. Iceland's National Economic Institute had a reputation for independent thinking, and Oddsson abolished it in 2002. From then on the banks, international rating companies and the Chamber of Commerce provided almost the only information and running commentary on the state of the economy, present and future.

"Paradoxically, a number of critical reports were published when the bubble was in the early stages, including one by the CBI. But by 2007-08, when the dangers were acute, reports, including those by the IMF, became noticeably softer in tone. It seems that the official financial institutions, as well as bankers and politicians, understood that the situation was so fragile that just to speak of it might trigger a run on the banks.

"In October 2010 the parliament decided to charge Prime Minister Haarde for breach of ministerial responsibility. The permanent finance secretary Baldur Gudlaugsson (former member of the Locomotive group) has been given two years in prison for using inside information for his personal advantage while selling his shares in Landsbanki in September 2008. But the special prosecutor in charge of the investigation of the banks has been working with a team of 60 lawyers and others for the past two years and has so far brought no charges. Meanwhile Oddsson was appointed in September 2009 as editor-in-chief at Morgunbladid, the leading Iceland daily, and orchestrated coverage of the crisis. A commentator said that was like appointing Nixon editor of The Washington Post after Watergate. Iceland's elite looks after its own." 1

Capitalist Retaliation

When a nation such as Iceland goes up against the global capitalist cabal, we can expect it to retaliate in any way possible. As of September, 2011, two cabal retaliatory operations have been launched against Iceland:


Israeli Zionists falsely accuse Icelanders of racism

The current cabal U.S. White regime is planning economic sanctions against Iceland, using the excuse of whaling irregularities


Lessons Still To Be Learned

The Icelandic example is one of genuine significance: citizens in all countries besieged by international capitalist vultures should refuse to bail them out when their criminal operations threaten the entire economy. But Iceland's example is also one of only partial success:


-The Icelandic people failed to extricate themselves from their capitalistic economy

-They failed to eradicate their capitalist ruling junta

-They failed to institute a cooperative commonwealth economy for the benefit of all citizens--even though their writing a new constitution gave them the perfect opportunity to do so

We can certainly take an important lesson from what Icelandic citizens have been able to do. But, in echoes of Lincoln's great address, it is for us to be dedicated to the unfinished work which the Icelandic people so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us--the replacement of fascism and predatory capitalism with a cooperative commonwealth polity that shall initiate a new birth of freedom through a government of the people, by the people, for the people.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/12 08:45 AM

The five biggest US banks preparing to go out of business

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/27/us-banks-bailouts-wills-idUSBRE85Q0AZ20120627

By David Henry and Dave Clarke

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON | Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:29am EDT

(Reuters) - Five of the biggest banks in the United States are putting finishing touches on plans for going out of business ...

The plans, known as living wills, are due to regulators no later than July 1 under provisions of the Dodd-Frank financial reform law designed to end too-big-to-fail bailouts by the government. The living wills could be as long as 4,000 pages....

JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM.N), Bank of America Corp (BAC.N), Citigroup Inc (C.N), Goldman Sachs & Co (GS.N) and Morgan Stanley (MS.N) are among those submitting the first liquidation scenarios to regulators at the Federal Reserve and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp, according to people familiar with the matter.

The five firms, which declined to discuss their plans for this story, have some of the biggest balance sheets, trading desks and derivatives portfolios of financial institutions in the United States.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/12 08:58 AM

Fed Audit Legislation Passed by House Oversight Committee
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-27...-committee.html

By Joshua Zumbrun - Jun 27, 2012

"A U.S. House committee approved legislation introduced by Representative Ron Paul that would subject the Federal Reserve to an audit of its activities, including monetary policy decisions.

The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee in Washington approved the bill today in a voice vote. The bill now advances to consideration in the full House.

Paul, a Republican from Texas and author of the book “End the Fed” calling for the abolition of the central bank, seeks through the bill to require an audit by the Government Accountability Office of the Fed’s board of governors and 12 regional banks." ...

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2q2Vxs/www...ouse-committee/

"In a nearly unanimous voice vote on Wednesday, the House Oversight Committee approved a bill that would require the U.S. Federal Reserve to conduct a first-ever complete audit of its books and divulge details about its monetary policy discussions."

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/12 09:17 AM

Slovenia May Ask for Bailout in July, Prime Minister Jansa Says

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2012...jansa-says.html

"Slovenia may ask for an international bailout if lawmakers fail to adopt legislation next month that would limit public spending, Prime Minister Janez Jansa said in an interview with a local radio station." ...


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Now Is The Time To Prepare For The (Next) French Bailout Of Their Banking System & Potential Bailout Of France
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/201...ntial-bailout-f

"French bank Italian Exposure: As Italy pops with outrageous funding yields (just like Greece), France will be forced to bailout its banks once again, leaving the socialist country facing the dilemma of potentially having to ask for a bailout itself. As you may know from my previous writings, the French banking system is bigger than France itself so a true bailout cannot practically come from within."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/12 10:13 AM

Well, Drake has launch the GREEN LIGHT alert yesterday with a 72 hours notice to the public for the activation of "the Plan" to mass arrest the Cabals.

I do not know if the GREEN LIGHT came from the good guys of the Pentagon(Military) who design "the plan" or the ETs whom Drakes believes will intervene with their own plan if the Military doesn't act. Personally, I have my doubts about Drake since he became impatient with the Military for not acting quick enough.

Benjamin Fulford don't believe it will happen now and hopes that this fall the Cabals will be out of monetary resources and won't be able to keep their 30,000 highly paid guards. Then this would allow a more peaceful arrest with the lease casualies on both sides. Anyway, time will tell.

Here's Drake's website for more info on the GREEN LIGHT alert.

http://americannationalmilitia.com/2012/06/green-light/
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/12 08:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
Just because you may not be able to start a fire on gold doesn't make it worthless--unless, of course, you have no desire for anything other than starting a fire.

Maybe I wasn't clear. I was speaking of it's value at total anarchy, total collapse.
Do you see that's where we're headed as shown in the trend in Elle's posts?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/04/12 09:13 PM

Many things has been happening, but been too busy to report. Here's a very good simple explanation about the recent Libor/Barclays scandal. The biggest scandal there is which involves 16 biggest banks.



As the Lord brings the sins of Mystery Babylon out in the open, the people of the world will demand they be prosecuted for their crimes... time to stop supporting her and get out of her money racket.

Since last year I've been hearing from top economists or ex traders predicting that by the end of 2012 all paper assets(stocks, bonds, etc..) will be worth nothing. Potentially most currencies also. It is time to transfer your assets to something that will retain its value like silver and gold. Act with the leading of the Spirit and not out of fear.

This is not dooms day but a Jubilee, a liberation, great news. The Lord gave us a TYPE of what is to come -- look at Iceland.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/05/12 01:23 AM

German Police Officers Take Off Helmets & Marched With German Citizens Against Rothschild European Central Bank!

"The German police took off their helmets and marched with the protesters, clearing the way for them.


"Blockupy Frankfurt. Police are escorting. Reports 20,000+ protesters.

Who Owns The European Central Bank?


The same people who own the Federal Reserve and who owned the first national bank of America, The Second national bank of America, The Bank of England. The same people who has been responsible for almost every war on earth…

The Rothschild A.K.A. The Illuminati who are satanist."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/05/12 06:18 AM

Major banks say they are ready to go under

http://rt.com/business/news/banks-cr...ure-plans-381/


The US Federal Deposit Insurance and Federal Reserve released public summaries of plans for quick liquidation of nine of the world’s largest banks in the case of an emergency, without government bailouts.

Complex financial firms with more than $250 billion in nonbank assets including J.P. Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup Inc., Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Morgan Stanley, Barclays PLC, Deutsche Bank, Credit Suisse and UBS were the first to prepare the worst case scenarios by July 1. In total, about 125 banks are expected to submit plans to the regulators by the end of 2013.

Public summaries reveal that Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs plan to sell assets or stand-alone businesses to other financial firms, private-equity investors or insurance companies in the event of a collapse. Citigroup said its banking business could be split off from the parent company and recapitalized as a smaller bank. Credit Suisse plans to sell its businesses to hedge funds, banks and securities firms.

Meanwhile Barclay’s paper is already out of date after the resignation Tuesday of CEO Bob Diamond and COO Jerry Del Missier.

Banks are required to give the government the tools to wind them down in a case of failure under provisions of the Dodd-Frank financial reform law designed to end the practice of bailing out “too big to fail” banks by the state. The act aims to secure the financial system from turmoil such as followed the collapse of Lehman Brothers or Bear Stearns in 2008.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/05/12 06:30 AM

Big Banks Have Criminally Conspired Since 2005 to Rig $800 Trillion Dollar Market

http://lucas2012infos.wordpress.com/...t-2-july-2012/


Submitted by George Washington on 07/01/2012 21:40 -0400


We noted Friday:

Barclays and other large banks – including Citigroup, HSBC, J.P. Morgan Chase, Lloyds, Bank of America, UBS, Royal Bank of Scotland– manipulated the world’s primary interest rate (Libor) which virtually every adjustable-rate investment globally is pegged to.

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That means they manipulated a good chunk of the world economy.
We actually understated the impact of the Libor scandal.

Specifically, more than $800 trillion dollars worth of investments are pegged to the Libor rate. As the Wall Street Journal reports today:

More than $800 trillion in securities and loans are linked to the Libor, including $350 trillion in swaps and $10 trillion in loans.
(Click here if you don’t have a subscription to the Journal).

Remember, the derivatives market is approximately $1,200 trillion dollars. Interest rate derivatives comprise the lion’s share of all derivatives, and could blow up and take down the entire financial system.

The largest interest rate derivatives sellers include Barclays, Deutsche Bank, Goldman and JP Morgan … many of which are being exposed for manipulating Libor.

They have been manipulating Libor on a daily basis since 2005.

They are still part of the group of banks which sets Libor every day, and none have been criminally prosecuted.

They have received a light slap on the wrist from regulators, which – as nobel economist Joe Stiglitz points out – is just the cost of doing business when fraud is the business model.

Indeed – as Bloomberg notes – they’re probably still manipulating the rate:

The U.K. bankers and regulators charged with reviewing Libor in the wake of regulatory probes are resisting calls to overhaul the rate because structural changes risk invalidating trillions of dollars of contracts.

The group, established by the British Bankers’ Association in March after probes into allegations that traders rigged the London interbank offered rate … won’t propose structural changes such as basing the rate on actual trades or taking away oversight of the benchmark from the BBA, the people said.

Libor is determined by a daily poll that asks banks to estimate how much it would cost them to borrow from each other for different timeframes and in different currencies. Because banks’ submissions aren’t based on real trades, academics and lawyers say they are open to manipulation by traders. At least a dozen firms are being probed by regulators worldwide for colluding to rig the rate, the benchmark for $350 trillion of securities.

“I don’t see a significant enhancement to the reputation of Libor without basing it on actual transactions,” said Rosa Abrantes-Metz, an economist with Global Economics Group, a New York-based consultancy, an associate professor with New YorkUniversity’s Stern School of Business and the co-author of a 2008 paper entitled “Libor Manipulation?” [Shah Gilani also warned of Libor manipulation in 2008, and Tyler Durden, Max Keiser and others started sounding the alarm at or around the same time.]

“It would only be disruptive if current quotes are inaccurate,” so resistance “is suspicious,” she said.

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Traders interviewed by Bloomberg in March at three firms said they were given no guidance on how Libor should be set and there were no so-called Chinese walls preventing contact between the treasury staff charged with submitting the rate and traders who stood to profit on where Libor was set each day. They regularly discussed where Libor would be set with their colleagues and their counterparts at other firms, they said.

“Sadly the response looks to be very consistent with the response of policy makers to the banking disasters we’ve seen over the last four years — cosmetic changes, but nothing substantial happens,” said Richard Werner, a finance professor at the University of Southampton. “It’s insufficient and doesn’t really go to the heart of the problem.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/05/12 03:58 PM

LIBOR Banking Scandal Deepens; Barclays Releases Damning Email, Implicates British Government

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blo...rnment-20120704
POSTED: July 4, 11:35 AM ET


This Libor-manipulation story grows crazier with each passing minute. We have officially disappeared now down the rabbit-hole of the international financial oligarchy.

Former Barclays CEO Bob Diamond is testifying before parliament in London today, and that's sure to bring some shocking moments. But there's already been one huge stunner . In advance of that testimony, Barclays released an email from October 29, 2008, written by Diamond to then-Chairman John Varley and COO Jerry del Messier (who also stepped down yesterday). The email from the CEO to the other two senior Barclays execs purports to detail the content of the conversation Diamond had with Bank of England deputy governor Paul Tucker that same day.

In the email, Diamond essentially tells the other two execs that he has been given permission by Tucker – encouraged, actually – to rig Libor rates downward. What’s even worse is that Diamond’s email suggests that Tucker was only following orders, i.e. that Tucker had received phone calls from "a number of senior figures within Whitehall" – that is, the British government – expressing concern about Barclays' high Libor rates. Tucker in this version of events was acting as a middleman for the British government, telling Diamond to fake his borrowing rates in order to preserve the appearance of financial stability, for the good of Queen and country as it were.

[picture of email provided at Matt Taibbi TAIBBLOG]


Again: Libor, the London Interbank Exchange Rate, is the rate at which banks borrow from each other. A huge percentage of the world’s variable-rate investments are pegged to Libor. When Libor rates are high, it suggests that the banks’ confidence in each other is low, and high Libor rates are generally an indicator of shaky financial health among the banks. If the banks manipulated Libor, they did it to make themselves look healthier, but this had the consequence of affecting hundreds of trillions of dollars’ worth of financial products worldwide.

During the crash of 2008, governments understandably would have been concerned about high Libor rates – high rates and a lack of confidence in banks threatened economic stability – but the notion that governments would have encouraged banks to fake those rates would have been beyond unthinkable even a decade ago.

Back to the email. Diamond’s version of the conversation with Tucker, if true, is mind-blowing. To paraphrase, Diamond said that Tucker started off by asking Diamond why other banks were reporting such low borrowing rates relative to Barclays.

Diamond apparently deadpanned that his bank’s problem was that it was reporting the real numbers, while all the other banks were lying. "I asked [Tucker] if he could relay the reality, that not all banks were providing quotes at the levels that represented real transaction," Diamond wrote.

Tucker then steered Diamond to crime using the painfully oblique manner of an English gentleman trying to engage a prostitute without using any dirty words. He told Diamond that "while he was certain [Barclays] did not need advice,” the bank did not necessarily need to report such high rates all the time. Tucker put it this way: “It did not always need to be the case that [Barclays] appeared as high as [it has] recently."

This email amazes for a few reasons. One, it suggests that Barclays, which is currently carrying the standard in the LIBOR-manipulation scandal, was actually bringing up the rear -- that all of the other banks were in on it, and Barclays only attracted the government's notice because they were last.

The second is the apparent revelation that Tucker was acting on orders, or at least suggestions, from Whitehall. If nothing else, this is an awesome piece of political jungle defense by Diamond, tossing a hand-grenade into the seat of Her Majesty's government minutes before he's supposed to be grilled by parliament. This revelation is almost certain to inspire an Aldrich-Ames-style manhunt for the Whitehall figures responsible for this alleged communication to Tucker. And if this turns out to be true? Wow.

Of course, right now, we only have Diamond's word that it is, and under normal circumstances his word should mean less than nothing. The disgraced ex-CEO, who last year infamously said it was time for banks to stop apologizing, will likely now replace Jamie Dimon (who replaced Lloyd Blankfein, who replaced Angelo Mozilo, etc.) as the reigning hateable-white-guy Face of World Financial Corruption, so he'll have a difficult time if this whole thing comes down to a test of his public credibility.


But we already know that this Tucker-Diamond conversation did in fact take place, and that LIBOR was discussed.

Anyway, more on this after the testimony...
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/06/12 06:48 PM

After searching for and finding the article on the rt.com site, http://rt.com/business/news/banks-crisis-failure-plans-381/
and finding that although it says the same thing as listed in the post, for some reason, it strikes me as, and I would have to allow, for the possibility that the headline, while saying they are ready to go under, could have a possibly different meaning than what appears at first sight as hinted at in the statement, "in the case of an emergency" and "worst case scenarios".

That is, the government is tired of giving bailouts and so required a law, the Dodd-Frank financial reform law, much like as some areas require cities to come up with a disaster preparedness plan, and that the major banks are not about to go under but, as required by law, ready to go under. Said another way, that if the unforeseeable happens, they do have a plan in place, to ease the taxpayer burden.

Not that the plan means anything, but they are complying with the paperwork required of the passed law.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/08/12 04:15 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
After searching for and finding the article on the rt.com site, http://rt.com/business/news/banks-crisis-failure-plans-381/
and finding that although it says the same thing as listed in the post, for some reason, it strikes me as, and I would have to allow, for the possibility that the headline, while saying they are ready to go under, could have a possibly different meaning than what appears at first sight as hinted at in the statement, "in the case of an emergency" and "worst case scenarios".

That is, the government is tired of giving bailouts and so required a law, the Dodd-Frank financial reform law, much like as some areas require cities to come up with a disaster preparedness plan, and that the major banks are not about to go under but, as required by law, ready to go under. Said another way, that if the unforeseeable happens, they do have a plan in place, to ease the taxpayer burden.

Not that the plan means anything, but they are complying with the paperwork required of the passed law.

Multiple Criminal Scandals are grounds for Bankrupsy
In looking at the context of events, this news came out after the Libor scandal which is the worst scandal for the Bankster and the governments to face yet. What's unfolding will make the 2008/2009 crash like a picnic.

Also the 400 Trillion derivatives scandal is another recent one that piles up on the other scandals that the rigged media avoid as much as they can or dilutes these as "mistakes".

With all the secrecies being revealed, the Banks/Cabals knows they are done, so a plan to get out of business is in order. Notice it is the government that requires that plan. Unfortunetly, like most criminals, they will continue their crimes as long as they can. Putting a criminal behind bars does help them to stop for the time being.

Hope of WWIII
And then there's always that hope they can succeed in their plans in starting WWIII and killing the majority of the 99% and enslaving the rest. That's their only hope right now and as long as this remain a possiblity, they will try to accomplish it.

Nuking Jerusalem?
I don't believe they will succeed with WWIII, but they will succeed to get Iran and Israel to nuke each other -- well at least Jerusalem. Jeremiah 19:11 prophesize that Jerusalem(city) will be destroyed in such a manner that no one can rebuilt again. He demonstrate this by smashing a dry clay pot into pieces in front of the leaders in the city dump (Gehennah). Jerusalem(city) have been destroyed twice, but they always were able to rebuild it afterwards. So Jeremiah 19 prophecy was not fulfilled yet. Also Is 29:1-8 describes the Lord destroying the city once again. V.5&6 is a good description of a nuclear destruction.

AV Isa 29:5 … yea, it shall be at an instant suddenly. 6. Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire.

Well, we'll see how the Lord will fulfill His prophecies. Time will tell the truth.
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/08/12 04:39 AM

This would make more sense to me than the other.

Originally Posted By: kland
After searching for and finding the article on the rt.com site, http://rt.com/business/news/banks-crisis-failure-plans-381/
and finding that although it says the same thing as listed in the post, for some reason, it strikes me as, and I would have to allow, for the possibility that the headline, while saying they are ready to go under, could have a possibly different meaning than what appears at first sight as hinted at in the statement, "in the case of an emergency" and "worst case scenarios".

That is, the government is tired of giving bailouts and so required a law, the Dodd-Frank financial reform law, much like as some areas require cities to come up with a disaster preparedness plan, and that the major banks are not about to go under but, as required by law, ready to go under. Said another way, that if the unforeseeable happens, they do have a plan in place, to ease the taxpayer burden.

Not that the plan means anything, but they are complying with the paperwork required of the passed law.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/08/12 11:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Daryl F
This would make more sense to me than the other.
Are you speaking out of fear of loosing your pension? I've noticed that many people have that fear and that's why they hang on to whatever "makes more sense". And then there's the heart idols of preconceived endtime interpretations that also obscures reality.

There's nothing to fear beside the Lord. The Lord did promise that He "will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."1 Tim 2:4
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/08/12 12:43 PM

DAVID KOTOK: LIBOR-Gate Will Take Down Many More Bankers, And The Claims Will Spiral Into The Trillions

http://www.businessinsider.com/david-kotok-what-a-crazy-week-2012-7

Markets reacted to this crazy week of discredited, ADP-based employment forecasts, LIBOR revelations and central bank fizzle. The result is plain ugly.

...

LIBOR-gate, as Michael Lewitt titled it, is a mess. It is potentially huge. We expect more ugly revelations. Other institutions may be implicated. Critics of emerging-market governance standards need to look in the mirror. The so-called developed markets now exude a rising stench.

We will end this weekend missive with an email exchange.

Steve wrote, “David, Do you have any insight into this article? To what degree is it true / false?” He furnished this link to a Business Insider piece that discusses corruption in China.

My answer follows.

Steve, we have continuing questions about reporting from China. It takes on-site anecdotes to gain a picture that reveals trends. We do that by obtaining data from sources we know and trust. For example, one can count containers on ships or coal inventories or financial holdings at public institutions.

But why is the writer looking at China?

Business Insider penned this opening: “[Other articles have described the] widespread fraud that has become apparent, both in mainland and US listed Chinese companies…..an extraordinary number of the Communist Party and the military cadre had massive unexplained wealth …”

Let’s take a different approach. I have rewritten his sentence into a different context. Suppose you, Steve, were an honest Chinese observer, reading the following sentences about the United States.

“Widespread fraud has become apparent in the Mainland US and among US-listed financial firms. Extraordinary numbers of political figures and public appointees have massive wealth. Examples include (1) Dick Fuld, who was a director of the Federal Reserve Bank of NY until his firm, Lehman Brothers, went into bankruptcy. He has not been charged with any crime. He denied knowledge of any accounting irregularities. (2) Former US Senator Jon Corzine’s firm was a Federal Reserve primary dealer before it failed. Huge balances of client funds are unaccounted for at MF Global. Corzine says he does not know what happened. (3) No one knows the counterparties of the transactions that cost JPM billions. (4) Members of Congress and their staffs trade on insider information and are not violating US law because of the congressional exemption that Congress legislated for itself.”

Steve, I could lengthen this but you get my point.

I will stop with my own personal observation about the LIBOR scandal. My colleagues Michael Lewitt, Bob Eisenbeis, and Bill Witherell have written about it this week. (www.cumber.com)

The LIBOR rigging is systemic. For evidence see a Bloomberg report from May 29, 2008, under the headline, "Libor Banks Misstated Rates, Bond at Barclays Says." (Yes, the article ran more than four years before Barclays's $453 million settlement last month with U.S. and U.K. authorities for manipulating Libor.)

Steve, this scandal is going to take down many more than just Barclay’s leaders. The claims are likely to be in the trillions.

Imagine the board meeting at Barclays. The general counsel says, “I have a settlement proposal. We can pay 1/2 billion in fines to the US and UK authorities now; and you, Mr. Chairman, and you, Mr. CEO, and you, Mr. COO, will resign at once. Others will also resign or be dismissed. Gentlemen, I can make this deal right now and settle it or we can have a prolonged investigation. In my opinion, paying the half billion now and taking the resignations early is the cheapest way out of this mess.” The board votes yes.

Steve, the insiders on that board know the facts. Watch out for what is coming. It may dwarf allegations about Chinese corruption.

The US and UK systems were once the models for the world. They are now sick and corrupt. We are five years into a financial crisis and nothing has changed. Who are we to throw stones at others?
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/09/12 12:10 AM

No matter what the financial state of things are, we are all going to lose whatever source of income we have as a means of trying to force us to give in and receive the Mark of the Beast.

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Daryl F
This would make more sense to me than the other.
Are you speaking out of fear of loosing your pension? I've noticed that many people have that fear and that's why they hang on to whatever "makes more sense". And then there's the heart idols of preconceived endtime interpretations that also obscures reality.

There's nothing to fear beside the Lord. The Lord did promise that He "will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."1 Tim 2:4
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/09/12 05:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Daryl F
No matter what the financial state of things are, we are all going to lose whatever source of income we have as a means of trying to force us to give in and receive the Mark of the Beast.
Well it's good that your concern is not your pension like many.

The Two Beasts of Rev 13

We, SDAs has been taught that the Mark of the Beast is the Sunday Law. You know that cannot be proven Biblically and therefore it is a speculation. Since the Mark of the Beast is related to the Second Beast of Rev 13, we first need to properly identify who it is by looking at history and reconciliating it with scriptures.

We all agree that the first beast of Rev 13 is the Roman Catholics, but that doesn't make them automatically the second beast by being the first. Plus it doesn't make logical sense for the Lord to define two beasts and having its identity the same. You only need one beast to represent one empire which always been the case in Daniel's revelation. History does describe another empire that rose after the RC that we need to consider as being the second beast.

The House of Rothschild was the financiers of the Holy Alliance in 1815. The founder of the Rothschild dynasty, Mayer Amschel Bauer, told his secret of controlling the government of a nation over 200 years ago. He said, "Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes its laws”. So the Cabals couldn’t care less about the Sunday Law. Their mark is MONEY.

Mark of the [second] Beast

The Rothschilds invented the international banking system. In Volume 1 of the book, The House of Rothschild, Money’s Prophets, page 6, Niall Ferguson says,
“Indeed, it can be argued that, by modifying the existing system for government borrowing to make bonds more easily tradable, the Rothschilds actually created the international bond market in its modern form.”

Rev. 13:16, 17,
16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and their slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand, or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one should be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.

This portrays the [second] beast with an an economic feature.

We can agree that the “mark of the beast” is no more a literal mark than is the mark of God in our foreheads.
Deut. 6:5 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. 6 And these words, which I am commanding you today shall be on your heart; 7 and you shall teach them diligently to your sons … 8 And you shall bind them as a sign on your hand and they shall be as frontals on your forehead.

“This is the original “sign” in the law, indicating that the law was to be written on our hearts. More specifically, the law was to govern what we do with our hands and how we think in our minds (foreheads).

"The opposite of this is the “mark of the beast,” which is lawlessness in general, but more specifically “the love of money”—the root of all evil (1 Tim. 6:10). It is a condition of the heart. It is not money itself, but the love of money that is the problem. The currencies of the world are literally owned by the central banks and represent debt notes from those who have borrowed the money into circulation.

“Coins have images. Matt. 22:20, “Whose is this image and subscription?” Coins are “marked” by images. German currency is even called the “German Mark.”

From this perspective, one can say that the “mark” of the second beast is money, understanding, of course, that money itself is not new. But the monetary system that has developed since the Holy Alliance through the Rothschilds is this mark.

“Niall Ferguson says on page 16 of his first volume, “the Rothschilds were notoriously the ‘chief ally of the Holy Alliance’.” On page 17, he says,
“Not only had the Rothschilds replaced the old aristocracy, they also represented a new materialist religion. ‘[M]oney is the god of our time,’ declared Heine in March 1841, ‘and Rothschild is his prophet’.”

“No one today is allowed to buy or sell without using their money. Since money is a bank note which they create, it is specifically their mark. If anyone attempts to create or use another currency, it is called counterfeiting.

The Number: 666

The number 666 appears twice in the Bible.
Rev. 13:18
18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has under-standing calculate the number of that beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six [666].

2 Chron. 9:13 Now the weight of gold which came to Solomon in one year was 666 talents of gold.

The New Testament must be interpreted with the Old Testament. It is plain that in 2 Chron. 9:13 the number 666 is associated with gold, which is also used as money.

So this sets a certain color related to 666 and so does it goes with the natural flow of John’s statement that has a flow of revelation of history. It is remarkable that it would coincide precisely with the rise of the international banking system as invented and developed by the family of Rothschilds. It happened at the same time that the beast was healed of its deadly wound in 1815 after the downfall of Napoleon.

“If there is one thing that stands out in a study of Church history, it is that the Roman Church loves money. Its entire system of penance, indulgences, and payment for masses for the dead, is based upon the love of money. Cardinals’ hats were regularly sold to raise money for the papal coffers. Popes themselves regularly bribed their way into office. Catholic authors have written extensively of this.

But the RC is not the only beast that loves money. Rev 13 has two beasts. The “Holy Alliance” is an alliance between two beasts who love money and who rule by its power. Each has its “turf.”

“It is not so much the USE of money, but the LOVE of money that determines if one has the mark of the beast. When everything one does is for the sake of money, it is a “mark of the beast” upon one’s hand. When one constantly schemes how to make more money, it is a “mark of the beast” upon one’s forehead. It does not matter if men justify their greed by saying that it is for the advancement of the Christian faith or the Kingdom of God. It is still a mark of the beast and the opposite of God’s law, which tells us to love God and our neighbor as ourselves.
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/10/12 04:38 AM

Elle,

What makes you think that this is correct over what EGW wrote, etc.???
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/10/12 09:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Daryl F
Elle, What makes you think that this is correct over what EGW wrote, etc.???
Biblical and historical support over Church speculative interpretations of untested writings.

Our Duty to Test All of EGW writings
The Church chooses blindness and deafness by not testing all writings of EGW or the interpretations of the pioneers or the interpretations of EGW's writings by SDA's scholars. It is a personal and corporate duty that Ellen and James pressed that we should do. Some of EGW's writings are false. We assume just because there is a section of EGW writings being false, we need to throw away all her writings. That is a false conception and assumption.

Moses -- the False Prophet
Even Moses himself was a false prophet when he strike the rock the second time contrary to the word of the Lord. The rock represented Jesus and it needed only to be strike once to prophesy his death on the cross at his first coming. The second time, Moses was commanded to speak to the rock which prophesy Christ LIVE work at His second coming "he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: (antitype of Joseph, and the live second dove of Lev 14 released in the field[world]) and his name is called The Word of God...And out of His mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations:. By striking the rock twice Moses was falsely prophesying that Christ needed to die twice. The Lord reprimanded Moses for this and he was not able to enter Canaan. In this event, Moses became a type of the Church in not understanding Christ second coming and because of that, not inheriting to rule with Christ in the New Kingdom. I’m not saying they are lost and won’t be saved, but they won’t be part of the 144K who knows the voice of Christ(not EGW or scholars) and follow Him wherever He goeth.

Moses Writings not rejected by Christ
Has Christ rejected all of Moses writings because he spoke as a false prophet at times (actually Moses spoke twice as a false prophet)? No. And that same rule should be applied to Ellen White’s writings also and anybody else that comes along that claim that has a message from the Lord. We shouldn’t be afraid to test all her writings according to scriptures (Law and prophets). Finding false writings does not mean we need to throw everything else. This fear of finding anything false in EGW writings makes us blind to the word of G-d and deaf to the teachings of His Spirit.

Purpose of False Prophets
Actually the Lord purposely sends us false prophets(or portion of what they say) so we can come to see our own heart if we are going to follow the Lord or not. By testing everything, gives us an opportunity to learn His Laws more deeply and come to know His ways better.
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/11/12 04:36 AM

Elle,

You said that some of EGW's writings are false.

What in her writings do you consider to be false?

Also, how do you know that they are false?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/11/12 06:07 AM

First, I am not here to prove that EGW is wrong. I'm here to study so to refine my understanding and beliefs and ground them on sound Biblical and historical evidence. It is not I who brings up EGW in a discussion, but it is others that use EGW's writings to interpret the Bible which is in direct opposition to Ellen and James counsels.

Originally Posted By: Daryl F
You said that some of EGW's writings are false.

What in her writings do you consider to be false?

Indirectly, I believe I have answered your question in many studies/discussions on this forum.

For one, read 3 post above #144042
For two, read Does All Being Saved in the End and Nobody Being Lost Have Biblical Support?
Originally Posted By: Daryl F
Also, how do you know that they are false?

Isa 8:20 To the law (torah = Pentateuch)and to the testimony(t'uwdah, manner of keeping it): if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

Besides the Torah, letting historical and astronomical data define Biblical interpretation, for in them we find the fulfillment of the Torah and the prophets.

Also the Lord gave us a LAW how to test prophets in Deut 13 and Deut 18. I have expanded on this LAW here.

Basically, only those who study the Law of Moses and knows how to keep them will be equiped to distinguish if someone is speaking according to the Law or not. The Law of Moses is the only foundation of writen truth the Lord has provided -- any prophets or beliefs(doctrines) needs to be tested against the Law.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/11/12 06:25 PM

Quote:
We, SDAs has been taught that the Mark of the Beast is the Sunday Law. You know that cannot be proven Biblically and therefore it is a speculation. Since the Mark of the Beast is related to the Second Beast of Rev 13, we first need to properly identify who it is by looking at history and reconciliating it with scriptures.
And not to forget that it's related to the first Beast. Did you show that with your suggestion?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/12/12 12:45 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Quote:
We, SDAs has been taught that the Mark of the Beast is the Sunday Law. You know that cannot be proven Biblically and therefore it is a speculation. Since the Mark of the Beast is related to the Second Beast of Rev 13, we first need to properly identify who it is by looking at history and reconciliating it with scriptures.
And not to forget that it's related to the first Beast. Did you show that with your suggestion?
Do you agree the mark is related to the second Beast? You need to be more specific in what you mean in saying that the Second Beast is related to the first. If you mean that the second Beast is the same entity(RC) as the first, then I disagree. Let me summarize what I have writen in that other post :

A. The mark of the Beast is associated to the Second Beast of Rev 13. see Rev 13:11-18 not the first.

B. We know the first Beast of Rev 13 to be the RC that exercise its power for 42 months = 1260yrs

C. The first Beast received its deadly wound in 1798 when Napolean took the Pope captive. But then Napolean wanted to be emperor, so he needed the Pope to legitamize the crown so he reinstated a new Pope in March 4 1800 (the deadly wound is healed) and Napolean got crown 4 years later in 1804.

D. Napolean was part of the illuminati and was used by the Illuminati by whom the Jesuit was also part of, to orchestrate the Holy Alliance which was sign in 1815. The Holy Alliance was financed, design and used by the Rothschild to build his monetary empire that we see falling today.

E. This Empire(the second Beast--Rothchild Family) mark is MONEY.

“Niall Ferguson says on page 16 of his first volume, “the Rothschilds were notoriously the ‘chief ally of the Holy Alliance’.” On page 17, he says,
Not only had the Rothschilds replaced the old aristocracy, they also represented a new materialist religion. ‘[M]oney is the god of our time,’ declared Heine in March 1841, ‘and Rothschild is his prophet’.”

No one today is allowed to buy or sell without using their money. Since money is a bank note which they create, it is specifically their mark. If anyone attempts to create or use another currency, it is called counterfeiting.

F. The number of the Beast 666 -- is MONEY. See 2ch 9:13 where 666 is refered in relation to gold = currency of those days = money.

G. I have read some more historical data that reveal where the illuminati came from and its connection with the Jesuit, Pope, Cabals(Rothschild), the Templars, etc... will share hopefully soon in the appropriate discussion entitled Mystery Babylon and the Cabalist

H. It makes no logical sense to think that the first Beast and the second Beast of Rev 13 is the same. It is contrary to all previous revelations in Daniel and second by History, that any new beast that arised represented a new empire, group, or nation.

I. Rev 13:12 says it is the second Beast of Rev 13 that reinstated the first Beast(RC) as it is second by history in 1800(see C), so it has to be another entity. This is the relation between the first Beast with the second. The second Beast has power over the first as it is second by history and has maintained its power till today. The RC is not going to rise again. The RC empire will be destroy with the second beast/Rothschild empire with their Holy Alliance as we see things unfolding today.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/12/12 08:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Quote:
We, SDAs has been taught that the Mark of the Beast is the Sunday Law. You know that cannot be proven Biblically and therefore it is a speculation. Since the Mark of the Beast is related to the Second Beast of Rev 13, we first need to properly identify who it is by looking at history and reconciliating it with scriptures.
And not to forget that it's related to the first Beast. Did you show that with your suggestion?
Do you agree the mark is related to the second Beast? You need to be more specific in what you mean in saying that the Second Beast is related to the first. If you mean that the second Beast is the same entity(RC) as the first, then I disagree. Let me summarize what I have writen in that other post :
Since you were relating the mark, I was too.

And not to forget that it's (the mark) related to the first Beast. Did you show that with your suggestion? (regarding the first beast)
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/14/12 10:38 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Quote:
We, SDAs has been taught that the Mark of the Beast is the Sunday Law. You know that cannot be proven Biblically and therefore it is a speculation. Since the Mark of the Beast is related to the Second Beast of Rev 13, we first need to properly identify who it is by looking at history and reconciliating it with scriptures.
And not to forget that it's related to the first Beast. Did you show that with your suggestion?
Do you agree the mark is related to the second Beast? You need to be more specific in what you mean in saying that the Second Beast is related to the first. If you mean that the second Beast is the same entity(RC) as the first, then I disagree. Let me summarize what I have writen in that other post :
Since you were relating the mark, I was too.

And not to forget that it's (the mark) related to the first Beast. Did you show that with your suggestion? (regarding the first beast)

??? What I read from Rev 13:11-18 the mark of the beast is related to the second beast. Plus history shows it as explained to some dept in this thread Post #144042 here.

Show me your biblical & historical support that it is related to the first beast. This could be worthy to start another discussion if you think you or others have some support.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/14/12 10:51 AM

We Might Need to Hang Some Bankers to Stop Criminal Looting
Posted on July 8, 2012 by WashingtonsBlog

"Even Nouriel Roubini Says We Need to Jail or Hang Some Bankers
Nobel prize winning economist Joe Stiglitz – and many other experts – have said nothing will change unless dishonest bankers are jailed.

Former trader Max Keiser has been calling for years for crooked bankers to be hanged, to send a message that crime won’t be tolerated.

But Nouriel Roubini is a lot more mainstream than Keiser – or even Stiglitz – being very close to Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner. See this.

Roubini told Bloomberg that nothing has changed since the start of the financial crisis, and we might need to throw bankers in jail – or hang them in the streets – before they’ll change:

Nobody has gone to jail since the financial crisis. The banks, they do things that are illegal and at best they slap on them a fine. If some people end up in jail, maybe that will teach a lesson to somebody. Or somebody hanging in the streets.

[video:google]http://www.bloomberg.com/video/roubini-says-2013-storm-may-surpass-2008-crisis-HCAjTp9VTD~gm6Ux8jnQvQ.html[/video]

I noted 7 years ago:
I am NOT calling for the overthrow of the government. In fact, I am calling for the reinstatement of our government. I am calling for an end to lawless dictatorship and a return to the rule of law. Rather than trying to subvert the constitution, I am calling for its enforcement.

***

The best way to avoid all types of revolution would be for the government to start following the rule of law. I passionately hope it will do so.

The fact that even mainstream economists like Roubini are talking about hanging bankers shows that this is the last chance for the justice system – the only thing which stands between criminals on Wall Street and pitchforks – to work.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/14/12 06:23 PM

PressTV : 'European banks are technically bankrupt'


"A new report by the International Labor Organization (ILO) says the eurozone is in danger of losing 4.5 million jobs over the next four years, unless it changes its current economic policies.

According to the report, if the 17-nation bloc does not prevent the spike by shifting away from austerity, the number of its unemployed workers will reach to 22 million.

“It’s not only the eurozone that’s in trouble, the entire global economy is at risk of contagion,” the report said.

It also added that young people are to be severely hit by the unwelcome consequences of a longer period of austerity.

Press TV has conducted an interview with Max Keiser, a journalist and broadcaster in Paris, to shed some light on the issue.

The video also offers the opinions of two additional guests: Simon Dixon, the CEO of BankToTheFuture.com in London, and Paolo Raffone, secretary general of CIPI Foundation in Brussels.

What follows is an approximate transcript of the interview.

Press TV: Max Keiser, looking here at 4 or 5 years of austerity measures have failed to stimulate the European economies. How can economies be stimulated and then create jobs at the same time if there is a global slowdown occurring, if you agree with the fact that there is a global slowdown?

Keiser: Well, let’s look at the case of Ireland for a second. A few years ago, the Irish public debt was virtually non-existent. Then one of their banks, Anglo Irish, ran up debts that were ten times the country’s GDP. They went bankrupt and the Irish government decided to move those debts or guarantee those debts onto the bound sheet of the citizen and then they started imposing austerity measures to bailout Anglo Irish Bank and their unsecured debtors.


[So this pattern is what we have seen play out all over Europe. You have got these debts that were incurred by banks; they cannot pay the debts and the governments are doing the bidding of the banks by transferring these debts to the public and then imposing austerity measures. We saw it in Argentina. City Bank was in Argentina back in the late 80s or early 90s or 90s to 2000 and they went bust basically and the government forced the citizens to pay off City Bank’s debts.]

So that was the model. So this is a common theme now. You do something about this transference of bank debt to the public and you are going to have these problems continue. It is playing out all over the world.

Press TV: The root cause of the problem is something that it seems that is not being tackled because it seems like just by buying time and getting these loans, of course some are wondering where these all the money is actually coming from; maybe it is the citizens of each country; like in the case of Greece you have 20 banks that have lent Greece money.

Ultimately, are they going to be able to pay back, in Greece’s case for example, the money? I mean that is the fundamental question that is faced in some of these debt-ridden countries, isn’t it?

Keiser: To follow up on what was just said about finding new markets for debt, to find too not a little bit, they are finding new innovative ways for the banks to sell debt back and forth to each other without having to increase their reserve requirement in any way, in fact reduce their reserve requirement.

So you have a bank like Deutsche Bank with three trillion in debt that is supported by less than one and a half percent of tier one capital. So you have less than a one or two percent fluctuation in the value of those assets and the bank is technically bankrupt.

These banks in Europe are technically bankrupt. Their balance sheets, if you were to freeze-frame them and forensically look at them, you would find that they are without any collateral whatsoever. They are only supported by the illusion of whipping these debts around in the washing machine that is the euro money laundering system to keep themselves going and like for example they introduce the European stability mechanism.


[This just means that the same debts that were swapped amongst banks six months ago are being swapped again into a new lending facility that is collateralized by the same banks. This is the very definition of a Ponzi game; this is what put Bernie Madoff in jail and this can continue on additionally because what will happen is that once they establish a European-wide Central Bank in Brussels to mimic what is happening in Washington DC or the Federal Reserve Bank and then once that game was out, then the Federal Reserve Bank and this new European Central Bank in Brussels will create a new global Central Bank and then they will do the whole thing over again and then everyone who is suffering austerity today will have to pay additional tax to this new global Central Bank.]

So the people suffering austerity are going to continue to suffer austerity except their tax burden is going to go up substantially and the bankers who make money created this Ponzi game will continue to suck wealth out of this system and load it over in this neo-feudal model, as they have been doing now for the past 5-10-20 years.

Press TV: Reading between the lines here, it would be positive to see what actually are on the books of these different banks. Are there hidden costs? Because it seems like for example with Bankia, when we hear about the bailout that they need, do these countries know how much their banks have on paper in terms of assets, in terms of funds before they can reach out and bail them out? Or are these debts going to all of a sudden surface in the news that they owe this much more? If you can elaborate on that more for us and give us some examples, please.

Keiser: No, they do not know how much debt these banks have. It is part of what is called the shadow banking system. The shadow banking system in America is estimated to be over 16 trillion dollars. So it is in excess of the entire GDP of the United States and this is true throughout the world. There is 800 trillion dollars in derivatives that are part of the shadow banking system. The entire globe GDP has called 50 trillion dollars.

What happens is that when banks want to get more laws passed to deregulate the system, to make it easier for them to continue this Ponzi game, they suddenly flash huge debt that they say they just found; they just discovered it. Hank Pualson did this in 2008; [Richard] Fuld did this in Lehman Brothers; the troika did this when they were talking about Greece.


[They have trillions of dollars worth of debt that they can use as a scare tactic to get the citizens and the government to sign off as was the memo of understanding with Greece with the troika and then when they sign it off, they suddenly say, ‘OK, while this new lending facility is going to take care of this debt, we are going to lower interest rates again toward zero percent.’ Of course so the debt service is down to as low as possible it can be but I want to follow up on Simon Dickson about the nature of money itself. Most people assume that a bank takes on a deposit and then they loan that deposit out and this creates liquidity in the system. That is false.]

In today’s banking system, banks first lend money into existence. That is where money comes from: it is loaned into existence as debt. A small fraction of that ends up on another bank’s balance sheet that they then call collateral. But it is just debt. There is no hard collateral.

That is why, at this time around the world, there is a mad scramble to try to reclassify gold as a tier one asset because that is the only unimpingeable collateral that you can have at this point to solve the fact that none of these banks have any collateral that is worth anything in a resell market.

They are all technically bankrupt and this is what they discovered in Iceland which is why they had to let the three major banks collapse; the currency collapsed; the economy collapsed but now they are growing again because they went through that moment; they realized that they had this huge problem.


[These banks in Europe have to understand that they must allow the banks to crash and let happen what is going to happen. But until that happens, there is going to be more debt servitude, more problems like we are seeing; more austerity and more social unrest. There is a real risk now that some of these bankers are going to be rounded up.]

In the mainstream media in American, noble price winning economists and people like Nouriel Roubini are suggesting that bankers should be hung. I said that in this show three years ago and people thought I was being exaggerating but now Nouriel Roubini is calling for the bankers to be hung. So this is a very interesting sea change. "
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/14/12 08:03 PM

'Extremism to grow in Spain, Italy, France as banksters & police confront protests'

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/17/12 05:01 PM

Didn't see the other thread until later.
http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forum...amp;#Post144182
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/23/12 12:01 PM

There's been lots in the financial news. The Libor(Lie-more) scandal is too major to ignore. The world governments of the US and Europe are also implicated in this. They are corrupt too, but not to the level of the Banksters. For it is the Rothschild family and others of their elite group that has corrupted the countries governments of the world. So we might see a few heads role in some prosecutions in their hope to "appease" the people quest for justice, however, if they are not all prosecuted and the existant financial system is not done away, then nothing will change.

I don't think the people will be satisfied with a few heads. They will protest. The protest will increase as they understand the level of corruptness behind the Libor and other deceptions. Already they are many current protests. It will go far beyond the protests we witnesss for occupy wall street.

Iceland was the type(the example) of what will happen everywhere in this world -- A JUBILE with a total cleanup of the government and prosecuting the Banksters. Iceland didn't even had an army and succeeded to defeat the Banksters.

This recent development does set up the stage to make the "mass arrest" possible that was in "the plan". It will be amazing to see what the Lord will orchestrate these next couple of months. Watch the news for our liberation(Jubile) is very close.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/23/12 02:56 PM

Libor -- Crime of the Century
Gerald Celente(GC) from trendsresearch.com is interviewed by Max Kesier(MK). A good interview that I transcript part of it below.


GC: “It’s the crime of the century, its headline news. It affect virtually everyone on the planet that exchanges money. They rigged the game. Everything has been affected… 700 trillions dollars affected by a small group of crime syndicate rigging the numbers. It’s a bank take-over and its at every level. How many more crimes does the people have to see from the banking mafia before they get it?


MK: “If I’m one of the 18 or so banks part of the libor rigged setting…and I’m packaging a deal like a Sovereign like Greece to hide their debt like Goldman Sack was doing. Aren’t I committing fraud in a couple different level here? not only am I avoiding the maastricht treaty by getting them involve in hiding debt which is illegal to begin with, but I’m referencing things on the indenture of the product I’m selling them - labor rate - that I’m involve in rigging. It’s just another dimension of the fraud because all these indenture, all the securities, all these derivatives references to Libor by the same people who are rigging Libor. So everything tied to Libor is now SUSPECT. Right?

GC : Exactly. It’s a criminal operation. They are rigging the game and they are betting in which way its going to move because they are fixing the numbers. Oh but I heard Robert Diamond, the former CEO of Barcley, say he was sorry. You or I or anybody else commits a minor infraction and boy do they slam you down. [he compares the incident last year in England the nottingham riots.. and Cameron and the clergy came down on the people. ]… “and then listen to the white shoe language, the proper language Cameron’s mouth and the rest little ____ when the labor scandal hits, “well we have to look into this, they may be an inapropriety”. They rob the entire world and they give them a free ride.


MK: …Libor is the reference rate used/underpins global security transactions worth 800 trillions dollars. It is a rate set by a committee and its publish and it is similar to the open market committee in Washington DC. They get together and decide what the interest rate should be. Its not a market mechanism. Its done by central planning, done by a committee and these rates are set accordingly. A lot of people now are stepping forward saying look if libor is completely manipulated, if the FED is completely manipulated to support this ponzi scheme with this global financialized market that referred back to very little in terms of collateral; isn’t it make sense then that we would see the exact same thing in the gold market? Does this confirm what a lot of people been saying about the gold and silver market?

GC : Absolutely. I agree with you 100%, I’ve been saying this forever. You see the entire system is collapsing. When you go back to the rout of the Libor scandals it was also to not make it look as bad when everything was crashing out in 2007 as we’re finding out now. They lied about the stability of the Banking industry and they say they were borrowing at lower rate to make it seem that money was available.

You go back to the G20 meeting and the Euro Summit. They can’t fix the problem. The Bankers know that if the people see how worthless that digital paper not worth the paper that it is printed on becomes apparent. And the people run to buy gold; this will crash the system. They are rigging gold like they rigged the stock market like they rigged labor like they rigged everything. Its one inside deal. So they need to keep the price of gold down so they can keep the ponzi scheme afloat. It’s as simple as that.

MK: …are we heading to the “Tobacco moment”… in the realization that it cause cancer and that changed the industry?

GC: No. Not in the United States, not in the situation where the gang of 35—the political mafia of congressman and senators bought and paid off by the financial industry. They have a term they use over here to fund campaigns. They call it campaign financing. That’s white shoe boy language for bribes and payoff. They are not going to change anything. If they were when the crises hit back in 2007 & 2008, they would of push through legislation which would of preventing this from happening.

Go back to the crash of 1929. Then go into the 30s. The banks were demonized. They pass legislation such as the glass steagall act to prevent the banks to become those casinos gamblers. Of course they were repealed under Clinton. But in this last round of crises, the first thing that they did, they bailed out the banks. They are bailing out the banks everywhere. No there will be no “cigarette moment” what there will be is an off with their heads moment. It goes what you are seeing going on in Europe.

Look at that guy in Spain, Rejo. He when on the campaign promises that he wasn’t going to increase their taxes. They just received more money from the rest of European taxpayers a 100 billions dollars to bail out the banks. And what did they do? They raised the VAT taxes. Are the people angry? They are talking the language that Spain might go into another recession. Recession? They are 24% unemployment, what recession?. It’s a depression.

So you are not going to see that moment, you are going to see is an “off with their heads” moment as people takes to the streets and wants the heads of the people that is bringing them down. History is repeating itself.

MK: Well just in the last two weeks we have seen in main stream media for example, Nouriel Roubini made the reference that maybe that Bankers needs to be hung. Joe Stiglitz, another well establish world economist, said maybe Bankers needs to go to jail. So this ideal that we need to get serious with the Bankers and go for corporal punishment because they are not responding to anything else. This seems to be becoming more of the mainstream thoughts … as these crimes stories seems to be spilling out on to the front pages more so since this crises began…. How do you see that trend developing?

GC : I see that continuing. And I myself am receiving more calls from the media to talk about it. But that will only go so far. The action has to take place in congress. And the congress is a gang of 535. They are not going to do anything…. They are not going to prosecute anyone. Maybe one head will roll to make it look like another burn off(?) moment. But the system itself is not going to change as long as the current system is in place.

MK: … now in country like Switzerland we have come into negative interest rates. Negative half a percent on two years Swiss notes. So people are buying those notes locking a .5% loss. How much in the negative territory can… is this possible? I think this is unprecedented. Your thoughts?

GC : Well it is unprecedented. And why anybody would do it. Here’s the deal. We keep hearing from the FEDs to keep interest rates low to 2014. So they need to keep pumping money into the system. Interest rates are going to stay low as long as they make the money available. At some time, it has to reverse itself. And when it does it will be real crises. And I think the reversal will happen when no-one is looking. And when the no-one is looking, it will be when we are going into wars. That’s when we will see the reversal happening because the people will be focus on different things.

For example, 911 – the whole world was focus on 911. You know when China was entered into the WTO, a couple weeks later when no-one was looking. So what I’m saying is you see things heating up in Syria, the war drums are beating much louder against Iran. I believe there will be some kind of event -- being false flag or real -- to get the people’s mind off the economy . That’s when the situation will change – bonds … interest rates will go higher, and the people won’t feel the pain as much … in their heads (but will for the rest of their lives) because they will be distracted. They’ve done this… do this all the time. The crash of 29, the great depression, the currency wars, trade wars, real wars; the panic of 08, the great recession/depression, currency wars is going on. You’re talking about getting people’s mind away from gold and keeping the price down. Look what is going on in India; they are the biggest buyers of gold. Now the government is putting restriction and taxes on buying gold coins because the ropy is crashing. So what are they going to do next? Trade wars and hot wars. History is repeating itself; only the tune is different.

….[ They continue talking about the different of class wars, the regulators being formerly employed by the Banks, the several incidence where Billions of dollars “lost”(disappearing) from books by which they claim they have no clue where it went,] …

GC: … “ there is no regulations, the only regulations are for us. Go back to the nottingham riots where the politicians screaming and yelling for the heads off the little people. Then look how they give a free ride… we just saw it with Barcleys. This guy resign and says ”I’m sorry”. That’s it. And he left with 100 million dollars.

Here’s the biggest story that is going on in Germany…that is going to the Supreme Court… that is whether or not to consolidate power to take away from the German people and moving it to the Brussels Banks. To me that was the big story of the European summit when they gave the money to bail out Italy and Spain.

The big news was the consolidation of power of a central Bank put up in Brussels - a version of the US central Bank. Now all the nations of Europe loose their Banking Sovereignty. That’s to me is the biggest story.

Because it goes back to the Libor story. Because then it is easier to rig the game when you have only two heads running the whole show. You don’t need to deal with middle men. The deal is cut a lot more quicker. That is the biggest story, is the consolidation of Banking power put up in Brussels along with the consolidation of the powers that already happened with the European Union and the Euro Zone.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/23/12 02:59 PM

Libor Investigation Close To Making Arrests: Report
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/22/libor-investigation-arrests_n_1693222.html

July 22 - U.S. prosecutors and European regulators are close to arresting individual traders and charging them with colluding to manipulate global benchmark interest rates, according to people familiar with a sweeping investigation into the rate-rigging scandal.

Federal prosecutors in Washington, D.C., have recently contacted lawyers representing some of the individuals under suspicion to notify them that criminal charges and arrests could be imminent, said two of those sources who asked not to be identified because the investigation is ongoing....

Reuters previously reported that more than a dozen current and former employees of several large banks are under investigation, including Barclays Plc, UBS and Citigroup, and have hired defense lawyers over the past year as a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., continues to gather evidence....

Adding to concerns are documents released by the New York Federal Reserve Bank this month that show bank regulators in the United States and England had some knowledge that bankers were submitting misleading Libor bids during the 2008 financial crisis to make their financial institutions appear stronger than they really were.

Among other details, the Fed documents included the transcript of an April 2008 phone call between a Barclays trader in New York and Fed official Fabiola Ravazzolo, in which the unidentified trader said: "So, we know that we're not posting um, an honest LIBOR."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/23/12 03:04 PM

Too Big To Fail – Fed Proposal Allows Banks To Seize Your Money
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/07/20/big-fail-fed-proposal-banks-seize-money-149701/

"The New York Fed has introduced a framework to give banks the right to suspend account withdrawals at will to defend against financial panic.

The shadow central planners have proposed new contigency plans to prevent the Great Depression style bank runs that are hitting Europe from spreading to America.

Their solution is the creation of a framework that consists of “capital controls” which allow financial institutions that find themselves in hot water to limit or outright suspend customer account withdrawals.

Our beloved regulators seem not to care the slightest that these institutions put themselves in hot water in the first place by taking up certain financial positions that put their customers’ money and the global financial system at risk.

Instead the message is clear – Our banks are too big to fail and if they need to seize their customers deposits to prevent them from failing then we must allow it."

... more of the story at the link.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/31/12 01:04 AM

The Mass Arrests is On. It is a gradual process at the moment, but I wouldn't be surprise that the arrest will pick up super-speed by this fall.

Cindy has started to compile the arrests that can be found at her blog page entitled "Bankers and Brokers and Inside Traders Arrested, Oh My!"

: http://consciouslyconnecting.blog.com/20...arrested-oh-my/

She has currently found and provided links to 111 reported arrests. Here's the latest one posted today :

111. 7/30/12: Iran sentences 4 to death in $2.6B fraud case - TEHRAN, Iran — An Iranian court has sentenced four people to death and given two more life sentences on charges linked to a $2.6 billion bank fraud described as the biggest financial scam in the country’s history, an official said Monday. The trial, which began in February, involved some of the country’s largest financial institutions and raised uncomfortable questions about corruption at senior levels in Iran’s tightly controlled economy.

My comment on the death penalty: Many of these banking crimes involves also some manslaughtering. The higher up you are, the more likely you have the blood of many people on you to move them out of your way for the continuation of your ongoing thefts.

I personally believe that if a man is found guilty of premeditated murder, they should be given the death penalty like the Lord has establish in the land of Canaan. But not without a fair trial and having proof from 2 to 3 sound witness.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/01/12 12:41 PM

Many protests all over the world are increasing and so is the tension between the people and the Elites rising.

Just saw in the news of the execution of Manuel Diaz in Anaheim CA who was unarmed. His offence was that he threw a water bottle at a cop in the protest. The police handcuffed his hands behind his back, and then shot him from behind in the head. This got the public furious.

Here's a news clip of the nature of violence taking place in the protests in the US.

Bay Area activists join in anger over Anaheim police shootings

http://www.sfbg.com/politics/2012/07/31/bay-area-activists-join-anger-over-anaheim-police-shootings
Last weekend in Anaheim, police shot and killed two young men. Every day since, protesters have taken to the streets. This weekend, a national day of protest following the killings helped spread the call for justice in Anaheim spread to the Bay Area.

Manuel Diaz, 25, was unarmed when he was killed by Anaheim police July 21. When a crowd gathered at the scene as Diaz lay bleeding, police fired rubber bullets and pepper balls into the crowd. One police dog got loose, charged at a baby, and bit the child’s father. Police say they used crowd control because the people had grown rowdy, and that some were throwing rocks. The next day, police shot a 21-year-old, Joel Acevedo, who they say shot at officers while fleeing.

Anaheim police shot another man the next day, a suspected burglar, marking the eighth officer-involved shooting in Anaheim so far this year. Five of the shootings resulted in death, and all but one of those killed were Latino.

"What's going on here in Orange County is symbolic of a problem with the system," Eduardo Perez, a 21-year-old student who attended Sunday’s protest told the Orange County Register. "This wouldn't happen to white people. This is racism, simple as that."

Saturday was a designated a national day of action, and protests in New York, Oakland, Seattle, and Chicago took place, while a smaller group marched Friday in San Francisco.

Tensions boiled over between protesters and Anaheim police Tuesday. Police say that protesters smashed windows and set fires. They shot at a crowd of hundreds with rubber bullets, beanbags and pepper balls, arresting 24 by the end of the night. That was what an Occupy Oakland medic, who preferred to be quoted as Elle, want to head down.

“I saw an insane amount of force being used to disperse protesters who I think are rightfully angry. I noticed there was nobody there as a medic, reaching out to do first aid,” Elle said.

On Sunday, protesters rallied at the APD headquarters and attempted a march to Disneyland. Law enforcement officers in camoflauge uniforms, toting tear gas launchers, blocked them the crowd from getting near Disneyland.

“They were stopped by the SWAT team that apparently wears desert camo,” said Elle, noting that Anaheim police and Orange County sheriff’s deputies, many on horseback, also confronted the march.

Although Elle says that she did observe mounted police “using their horses almost as batons to shove and hit protesters onto the street,” she only treated minor injuries as a medic.

”The unfortunate thing about being a medic is that these people who are being arrested need your help the most,” she said.

“The arrests they made were pretty violent, the ones that I saw. They hit one guy over the head with their baton as they were taking them to the van. They carried another woman out from a back alley, and she was crying and terrified. They were pretty brutal to the people they were arresting.”

Elle says she wanted to go help in Anaheim in part to help build a unified movement.

“We’re building a movement in Oakland around a really similar situation,” she said.

“If our state, community, country is going to make these murders stop all these communities need to rise up together and say this is unacceptable, we need to stop. It’s going to take a lot of people getting out there into the streets and building constant popular support to say this is an unacceptable use of our tax dollars.”

That “constant popular support” has been mounting in the Bay Area so far in 2012. Occupy Oakland started off the year with a march to the Oakland City Jail, and, the next day, joined with the Oscar Grant Committee for a march and rally commemorating his death. As officer-involved shootings have continued throughout the year, family and supporters have continued to take to the streets in response.

“I also wanted to help build a bridge between Oakland and Anaheim,” Elle says of her trip.

“If every community is issuing statements saying we want police to be held accountable for these deaths, we want to revoke the police officers’ bill of rights, we want active legislation preventing stop and frisk, active legislation to protect people’s fourth amendment rights, I think it could accomplish something,” Elle said
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/15/12 11:24 PM

Cease and Desist order against UBS (Babylon)

Below is the Keenan Liens file case that he rewrote and refile when he got his hand on these new undisputable strong evidence. I think this is only one of many court filings, and more will be following as there are much more gold than that that is owed by the Federal Reserve and UK Cabal Banksters.

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/93652234/Cease-Desist-Order-to-UBS-BIS-Evidence

Below is Stephen Jones comments.

"This is a Cease and Desist order to Union Bank of Switzerland in regard to the bonds that they brokered back in the 1960's on behalf of US President Kennedy and Indonesian President Soekarno as per the Green Hilton Agreement, signed Nov. 14, 1963.

This Agreement was to fund silver/gold backed money to replace the Federal Reserve Notes. The gold and silver was shipped, even though Kennedy was assassinated 9 days later. If you scroll down past the Cease and Desist order, you will see the actual photo copies of the Agreement signed by the three parties involved. These pictures are extraordinary, in that I do not think they have ever been published in public until now.

The gold and silver was LOANED to the US Treasury and was to be repaid in gold when the bonds matured. I believe they were 40-year bonds, but have not been able to confirm this. All we know is that some years ago these bonds began to mature one by one, but when the owners tried to collect what was owed to them, they were always refused, and some were even arrested. To this day, UBS has refused to cash those bonds, because the gold and silver is mostly gone, and any settlement would involve acknowledging the bankruptcy of the entire system. This would force them legally to change the entire system to an asset-backed currency, according to the demands of the Eastern Kings.

This is a very large issue that is behind much of the financial collapse that we see today. It is also the heart of the financial war between East and West, that is, the Kings of the East vs. the Kings of the Babylonian West.

If you look at the gold contracts, you will see the amount (in Kilograms) that was loaned to the US Treasury for the purpose of setting up an honest money system. This is actually only a small portion of the total that was shipped, beginning in 1928 under an earlier agreement in 1921 to pool the world's gold resources in the so-called "Collateral Accounts."

If you can understand this issue, you will know a lot more about the soon-coming downfall of Mystery Babylon. It is collapsing because of debt, as prophesied in Daniel 5 with the Handwriting on the Wall. Those were bankruptcy proceedings.

MENE = Audited (the numbers were crunched)
MENE = Audited again
TEKEL = Balancing the books and found to be broke
PERES = Sold at auction to the Medes and Persians

This Cease and Desist order is one more nail in the coffin as the foreclosure proceeds against the Babylonian banking system.

I suspect that some very significant events will occur on our watch dates from Sept. 11-22, 2012.

... "

read more here.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/17/12 01:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Cease and Desist order against UBS (Babylon)
What is Babylon?

Even if others are set adrift without an anchor, don't drift with them.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/20/12 08:58 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Cease and Desist order against UBS (Babylon)
What is Babylon?

We know Babylon as:
1)the literal meaning as confusion,
2)the Empire that took Israel into captivity and destroyed Jerusalem
3)the last Empire on this earth before the kingdom is given to the saints of the Lord. This last Empire was reveal to John as "Mystery Babylon" who is the second beast of Rev 13.

Originally Posted By: Kland
Even if others are set adrift without an anchor, don't drift with them.
Maybe we are the ones that are drifting without an anchor because of our blind and naked condition(the Laodicean Church).

That's why it is important to look at the current wordly events. A major economical collapse is on the verge to happen.

Let's objectively look at

a) whom is being exposed of their secret conspiracy to enslave the world?
b) who is commiting all these criminal acts?
c) who is going to courts and are being prosecuted?
d) who does the people protest against?
e) which organization or Elites are at the top of the pyramid?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/21/12 03:59 PM

Here's other refiled liens by Neil Keenan’s "against the source of cabal power. The central banks of the West and their White states in Japan and South Korea are now set to be refiled as early as this Friday, Keenan says. The new liens have way more evidence backing them than the original Keenan lawsuit ever did and can be seen here:

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/9354441...ts-BIS-05-14-12

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/93551732/LIEN-Affidavit-Against-Japan-Central-Bank

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/93549901/LIEN-Affidavit-Against-Federal-Reserve-The-Fed

http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/93545192/LIEN-Affidavit-Against-European-Central-Bank-ECB

Keenan says he has the backing of the pentagon and most of the US law enforcement establishment as well as Interpol."

[quote above taken from from Benjamin Fulford Aug 21st report. ]

I am not able to bring the content of these liens here as the links above are pictures. If you go to the links, you will see that the Cabals has stollen gold from the White Dragon families dated from the mid 1800s to mid 1900s. They were loans that have long expires and repayment is long due.

The cabals have used their power via different ways in saying that these loans are non-existant.

So these liens are admiralty legal measures with solid proofs of the existance of these loan agreements with the original documents. Therefore, repayment of these loans are required in solid GOLD (not cash created out of thin air by their computers) for the loans were made in solid gold. The Cabals do not possess this physical Gold and cannot repay.

This will give legal ground for the Interpol(with the aid of national police or marshalls) to seized them and further prosecute each individuals for the crimes they have done to humanity.

I expect that this September News will be hot and very interesting.

People that have transfered their assets into physical gold or silver or land will not be affected as those that did not. Those that have kept their trust in the existance economic infrastructure created, controled, and rigged by Mystery Babylon, will loose all their assets if kept in any paper form. When these banks true books will be shown publically and be proven to be walking zombies for many years; they will will fall and all that they have stamps and issued will loose their value.

There is still a little time to make the transfer of your savings. Please do not take my word for it and do make your personal research and pray about it beforehand.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/21/12 08:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle

We know Babylon as:
1)the literal meaning as confusion,
2)the Empire that took Israel into captivity and destroyed Jerusalem
3)the last Empire on this earth before the kingdom is given to the saints of the Lord. This last Empire was reveal to John as "Mystery Babylon" who is the second beast of Rev 13.
Ok, I'm listening.

Maybe you are meaning the one behind all these banks and groups?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/21/12 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle

People that have transfered their assets into physical gold or silver or land will not be affected as those that did not. Those that have kept their trust in the existance economic infrastructure created, controled, and rigged by Mystery Babylon, will loose all their assets if kept in any paper form. When these banks true books will be shown publically and be proven to be walking zombies for many years; they will will fall and all that they have stamps and issued will loose their value.

There is still a little time to make the transfer of your savings. Please do not take my word for it and do make your personal research and pray about it beforehand.
Transferring imaginary wealth to pavement will not be helpful.
It won't do you any good.

Even assuming not the end of the world, gold is useless. Guns and gas would be valuable. Consider New Orleans after Katrina. Gold didn't help anyone very much during that time. Drinking water was valuable, though.

But maybe we should be transferring our wealth for giving the gospel.

Before it's too late.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/29/12 01:57 PM

Quote:
Elle : People that have transfered their assets into physical gold or silver or land will not be affected as those that did not. …

Kland: Transferring imaginary wealth to pavement will not be helpful.
It won't do you any good.

You are making the assumption that at Jesus’ 2nd coming we will go to heaven. You could be wrong. This is not biblically founded. There is an overwhelming biblical references that the overcomers and the rest of the nations will remain on earth. Here’s a few references :

Rev 20:4,6 “…they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him for a Thousand years.” Rev 5:10 “…And hast made us unto our God Kings and priest; and we shall reign on the earthDaniel prophesies point that after all those beast kingdom’s time is done, the saints will be given the kingdom of the earth. Daniel 7:14-22 “…18. The saints…shall take the kingdom…27 and the kingdom and dominion…given to the people of the saints….22. Judgment was given to the saints…and the time came that the saints possessed the Kingdom.” Dan 2:35 “…and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Jesus is the High Priest that inherits all nations(the whole world) by which He will rule via His Priests(Saints). It is because Jesus inherits the world, that we were made co-inheriters with him. So with Him we will reign the earth. This is what the Bible teaches and shows in the type of the Israelites entering the land of Canaan.

This idea of going to heaven is based on a misunderstanding 1Thess. We can discuss this further in this discussion that Daryl had started here .

Now let's assume that everyone will remain on earth after the fall of Mystery Babylon(Rothschild Empire).


Now if, after the fall of Babylon, the world decides to recognize gold and silver as solid currency and use this as collateral for backing their new banking system, then those people who have transferred their savings from the “old Babylonian system” to what the new economical system recognizes as trust worthy collateral by buying gold and silver, they will not suffer any lost. Those that has not done so will end up with paper that is no longer recognized as having value.

Originally Posted By: Kland
But maybe we should be transferring our wealth for giving the gospel.

Before it's too late.

I agree that our wealth should be used for the gospel spreading in the whole world as prophesized in Dan 2:35 “…and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.However, how are you going to evangelize the world with worthless paper money and bonds?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/31/12 01:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
You are making the assumption that at Jesus’ 2nd coming we will go to heaven. You could be wrong. This is not biblically founded. There is an overwhelming biblical references that the overcomers and the rest of the nations will remain on earth. Here’s a few references :

Rev 20:4,6 “…they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him for a Thousand years.” Rev 5:10 “…And hast made us unto our God Kings and priest; and we shall reign on the earth
How do you see Rev 5 connected to Rev 20 and how do you see them referring to the same time period?


Quote:
Now let's assume that everyone will remain on earth after the fall of Mystery Babylon(Rothschild Empire).


Now if, after the fall of Babylon, the world decides to recognize gold and silver as solid currency and use this as collateral for backing their new banking system, then those people who have transferred their savings from the “old Babylonian system” to what the new economical system recognizes as trust worthy collateral by buying gold and silver, they will not suffer any lost. Those that has not done so will end up with paper that is no longer recognized as having value.
Whaa-a-a-a ? Whether you can support not going to heaven is one thing, but I'd be entertained to see you support gold, silver, or any other monetary currency being of use after the fall of Babylon. Along with that, the idea some will be out of luck while reigning with Jesus. That is reeally weird. The JW I was talking to didn't even say anything about currency.
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/31/12 07:52 AM

There will be a supernatural being claiming to be "christ" who will appear and try to rule the world by force.
Indeed under his rule many people will be "in want". It will be a terrible time.

BUT IT WON'T BE JESUS the Savior.

The whole concept is totally contrary to Christ's way.

God allowed sin because He doesn't want forced obedience. He desires the obedience of love and trust.
It was to demonstrate the horrors of sin, in contrast to the blessings and peace and goodness of God's ways that sin was permitted.

In the end Christ isn't going to come and FORCE the nations through war and blood shed, to accept Him as Lord and king. And rule over them for 1000 years with a rod of iron, forcing them into submission.
That is satan's way, not God's way.

In the end Christ will come and since He is the source of life, those who rejected Him will no longer have life. The "rod of iron" will make them "as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers:" (Rev. 3:27)

Jesus takes the saved to "His Fathers house", where He has prepared a place for them. (See John 14:1-3)
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/31/12 05:22 PM

Good point. "christ" is coming to this earth and will be using a currency system. It just won't be the Savior.

If one stockpiles currency and sees a benefit to it in the "kingdom" or sees that it's not a benefit since they didn't have the right kind, they probably have bigger things they should worry about other than currency. It's just they won't be worried about that.


Lu 18:22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

Mt 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Mt 6:19 ¶ Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
Mt 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/01/12 06:57 AM



Who is Babylon?

That is a very important question.

Who is Babylon?

No, it's not the present banking system, corrupted as it may be.
Babylon is symbolized by A WOMAN (See Rev. 17)
A woman in prophetic symbolism represents a church that professes to be Christ's bride.



So what is happening in the world?
True the economic situation in the world is bad. It could crash anytime. And of course if it crashes utter chaoes will reign in this world.

But THAT IS NOT THE BABYLON FALLEN!

Out of confusion the real Babylon will rise to great power!
Babylon is fallen, is present tense -- Babylon is spiritually fallen.

However, the deception will SEEM like the real thing! IT will seem like a great revival, it will be based on talk about "return to God" to seek His blessing, only it will be a "conversion" to Babylon (a combination of spiritualism, "new age" with christianity) and at the head will be the papacy, and by his side the protestants.

Into this "restoration and reform' a "christ' will appear as the great healer and king, but it won't be Jesus, the Creator and Redeemer of scripture. It will be Lucifer in glorious array (but still the devil) Sunday worship will be urged, and everyone who dares resist will be marked for death!
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/01/12 07:09 AM

When the REAL CHRIST comes, God's faithful will be caught up into the air to be with Him. (1 Thess. 4:16,17)

Christ's angels will gather the elect from the four directions Matt. 24

Christ has come to take them to His "father's house" where mansions were prepared for the them! (John 14:1-3)


Any appearing of a "Christ" on earth is not the TRUE Christ.

Matt. 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

Neither will the wicked be alive on earth following Christ's coming.


Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [them] all.
17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.

Rev. 19:21 And the rest were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/01/12 11:27 PM

Two very good posts by dedication. thumbsup
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/04/12 11:15 PM

Originally Posted By: dedication
True the economic situation in the world is bad. It could crash anytime. And of course if it crashes utter chaoes will reign in this world.

But THAT IS NOT THE BABYLON FALLEN!

Out of confusion the real Babylon will rise to great power!
Babylon is fallen, is present tense -- Babylon is spiritually fallen.
So you don't think that Babylon is working / has been working behind the scenes to cause the economic collapse?
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/07/12 02:19 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: dedication
True the economic situation in the world is bad. It could crash anytime. And of course if it crashes utter chaoes will reign in this world.

But THAT IS NOT THE BABYLON FALLEN!

Out of confusion the real Babylon will rise to great power!
Babylon is fallen, is present tense -- Babylon is spiritually fallen.
So you don't think that Babylon is working / has been working behind the scenes to cause the economic collapse?

Babylon as in what?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/07/12 08:21 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
You are making the assumption that at Jesus’ 2nd coming we will go to heaven. You could be wrong. This is not biblically founded. There is an overwhelming biblical references that the overcomers and the rest of the nations will remain on earth. Here’s a few references :

Rev 20:4,6 “…they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him for a Thousand years.” Rev 5:10 “…And hast made us unto our God Kings and priest; and we shall reign on the earth
How do you see Rev 5 connected to Rev 20 and how do you see them referring to the same time period?

Both texts (Rev 5 & 20) are talking about the work of God making this group of people(the Overcomers or the Saints) Kings and Priests that have the right to reign with Christ(the High Priest) on the earth after the fall of Babylon.

This is a wide spread Biblical theme that God's people will inherit the earth. Daniel interpretated prophecies makes it very clear what will happen after all those beastly kingdom's ruling time is over :

Dn 2:35 "Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth."

Dn 2:44 "And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kindoms, and it shall stand for ever."

Dn 7:22 "Until the Ancient of days came and judgment was given to the saints of the Most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom." Which kingdom? The Kingdom of the earth that the other Beastly Kings ruled prior.

Dn 7:27 "And the kingdom and dominion and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven[meaning on earth], shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High whose Kingdom is an everlasting Kingdom..."


Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: elle
Now let's assume that everyone will remain on earth after the fall of Mystery Babylon(Rothschild Empire).


Now if, after the fall of Babylon, the world decides to recognize gold and silver as solid currency and use this as collateral for backing their new banking system, then those people who have transferred their savings from the “old Babylonian system” to what the new economical system recognizes as trust worthy collateral by buying gold and silver, they will not suffer any lost. Those that has not done so will end up with paper that is no longer recognized as having value.
Whaa-a-a-a ? Whether you can support not going to heaven is one thing, but I'd be entertained to see you support gold, silver, or any other monetary currency being of use after the fall of Babylon. Along with that, the idea some will be out of luck while reigning with Jesus. That is reeally weird. The JW I was talking to didn't even say anything about currency.

Silver and Gold has always been the reliable currencies of the past because of its reliability, low wear, easily stored, doesn't decay, etc...).

I'm not saying that trading will only be done via gold and silver. Commodities(food, services, etc...) can be traded between individual also.

As far as I'm reading and understanding, the White Dragon Empire with the 140 allied countries has been telling each country of the world to make their own new currency. Very soon(sometime this September??), there will be like 40 countries or so that will make available their new currencies with a Re-evaluation depending on the counties assets and resources. Their old currency(printed and marked by the Rothschild) will be discarded. Most banks and financial firms are bankrupted having over 700 Trillions derivatives. They are walking deads (zombies) and have been proven to be not trust worthy.

All new created currencies will need to be backed by something real -- like gold or resources. Don't know how exactly it will pan out, but for sure gold is the main backup standard. China and other countries has been buying and stocking up on gold to back their new currency.
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/08/12 09:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle

Both texts (Rev 5 & 20) are talking about the work of God making this group of people(the Overcomers or the Saints) Kings and Priests that have the right to reign with Christ(the High Priest) on the earth after the fall of Babylon.


The two texts are not speaking of the same time.

Rev. 5 is of Christ's sacrifice (as a Lamb as it was slain) being accepted in heaven after His ascension and He is given the scroll and begins His heavenly redemptive work.
The 24 elders and the four living creatures proclaim that He is worthy and praise Him for His great sacrifice of redemption.

It is the 24 elders saying they are made priests and kings unto God.


The expression was already made in Rev.
1:5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
1:6 And has made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him [be] glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Here's John writing this message from Jesus, and already saying that He has made us kings and priests unto God.









Quote:
This is a wide spread Biblical theme that God's people will inherit the earth. Daniel interpretated prophecies makes it very clear what will happen after all those beastly kingdom's ruling time is over :


Of course --
We believe that after the 1000 years the earth will be renewed and restored.
And God's people will inherit the earth.


You quote Daniel.

But is ancient Babylon, Media Persia, Greece, Rome all present at the second coming?
How can the image be destroyed and blown away like chafe if they aren't even present?

Yet there is a time when all those great kings with their armies will be present. And it is AFTER the 1000 years. When the "rest of the dead" are raised and march on the Holy City, then history will meet the future. All those mighty generals with their armies that made the earth tremble as they conquered and subdued nations will unite in an army like the sands of the sea with the intent of tearing God from His thrown and taking the Holy City. (See Rev. 20)

This is the last great rebellion the WHOLE IMAGE makes against God.

Dn 2:35 "Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth."
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/08/12 09:45 AM

White dragons??? Why follow the advice of dragons?

Once Christ comes we won't NEED ANY currency. The streets of the city are paved with gold, the gates are pearls, the foundations made of precious stones, why would we need to hoard gold? Or worry about any currency???



In the last days,

Ez. 7:19 They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/08/12 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: dedication
White dragons??? Why follow the advice of dragons?

Whether you like it or not, the Lord is using the White dragon Empire(a Chinese origin family Dynasty) and the 140 countries that are allied with them to bring down the current Rothschild Empire that is currently ruling this world. This is reality and the current wars happening in this world.

The Rothschild Dynasty has stollen the gold of the White Dragon Empire. Therefore, the White Dragon Empire has a right to pursue the Cabal thiefs. That's what the court Liens filing against the Banks is all about. This is their trunk card to get the Cabal legally down.

Plus these events are in harmony with Biblical prophecies and the TYPE. The White Dragon Empire and these Asians countries allies are "the Kings of the East", mention in Revelation and also given as TYPE in the Fall of the Old Babylonian Empire.

Originally Posted By: dedication
Once Christ comes we won't NEED ANY currency. The streets of the city are paved with gold, the gates are pearls, the foundations made of precious stones, why would we need to hoard gold? Or worry about any currency???
Just like Kland and most of Christendom, you are making the assumption that we will go to heaven when Jesus comes. That is yet to be biblically proven in the discussion here .

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/21/12 02:36 PM

Lehman Brothers found liable for losses by Australian councils, charities and churches

From: ABC September 21, 2012 5:28PM

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business...6-1226479041044

A FEDERAL Court judge has ruled that investment bank Lehman Brothers is liable for millions of dollars of losses incurred by Australians as a result of failed investments.
A group of 72 councils, charities, churches and private investors sued Lehman Brothers for $248 million, claiming the now defunct investment bank breached contracts and fiduciary duties, and engaged in misleading and negligent conduct.

They were seeking compensation for losses incurred on investments made on advice from Grange Securities, which was bought by Lehman Brothers Australia in 2007.

The plaintiffs claimed the bank did not make them aware of the risks involved with investing in complex financial products known as synthetic collateralised debt obligations (SCDOs).

Leading the action against Lehman Brothers was Wingecarribee Shire Council, southwest of Sydney, which sought $21.4 million in losses.

...Justice Steven Rares said Grange knew the SCDOs were risky, illiquid and if sold might be realised at far less than their face value.

“For these reasons Grange is liable to compensate the councils for their losses incurred as a result of these investments,” he said.

He did not make an order on the amount of damages and instead will hear submissions on the matter on November 5.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/21/12 08:22 PM

Quote:

Silver and Gold has always been the reliable currencies of the past because of its reliability, low wear, easily stored, doesn't decay, etc...).

I'm not saying that trading will only be done via gold and silver. Commodities(food, services, etc...) can be traded between individual also. . . .
I must say, the idea that God punished humans by flooding the earth because aliens chose to have sex with them does not sound so far in outfield now. Not that I buy it, but it just doesn't seem so wild and outlandish.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/24/12 11:48 PM

The Jesuits created a financial alliance with the House of Rothschild to back Weishaupt in the creation of the Illuminati.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/06/12 05:08 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
The Jesuits created a financial alliance with the House of Rothschild to back Weishaupt in the creation of the Illuminati.

The connection between the Jesuit and the Cabals(Rothschild family being the main head) is discussed at the Mystery Babylon and The Cabalist topic. Here's some quotes:
Originally Posted By: Mystery Babylon and the Cabalist
“The Illuminati Order was preceded in the 1500's in Spain by the "Alumbrados," a Christian heresy started by crypto Jews called "Marranos." The founder of the Jesuit Order, Ignatius of Loyola, was a Marrano . (114) Thus when people today argue whether it is the Jesuits or the Illuminati who are responsible for our troubles, they are really talking about the same beast. “
...
In brief they(the Cabalists who follow the mystic teachings of the Kabbalah) are a group of dynastic families from a Jewish sect called Sabbateans (followers of the self proclaim Messiah & Prophet named Sabbatai Zevy) by which were originally descendents of the Spanish Marranos.
...
“The Sabbatean and Frankist heresies of the 1600's succeeded the Adumbrados and led directly to the Illuminati in the 1700's. Livingstone writes:

"The Frankists were bent not only on the eradication and humiliation of the majority of the Jewish community, who refused to accept their deviations...but of all religions, and they exploited the Zionist ideals to disguise their quest for world domination. The Frankists believed that...all that had been prohibited [by the Torah] was now permitted, or even mandatory. This included prohibited sexual unions, orgies and incest...."

"Despite the fact that they were outwardly religious, the Frankists sought the annihilation of every religion and positive system of belief, and they dreamed of a general revolution that would sweep away the past in a single stroke so that the world may be rebuilt...for Jacob Frank, anarchic destruction represented all the Luciferian radiance, all the tones and overtones, of the word Life." (125)
...
“According to a research paper by Andrew Hitchcock, Adam Weishaupt was paid to start this group by none other than Mayer Amschel Rothschild – in 1770.

I also provided some historical background about the Holy Aliance treaty sign in 1815 which mark the rise of the second Beast of Rev 13 in the discussion Mark of the Beast related to the 1st Beast or 2nd Beast of Rev 13 and WHO is the 2nd Beast? here and here.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/06/12 05:51 PM

Here's a current reality check of what is going on today in the world. It is a 22 min. interview of Gerald Caliente from Trend Research Institute.

Gerald speaks directly about was going on during JFK Presidential where he was told personally by John Connelly(who receive one of the bullet while with JFK) back then that if the people knew about the corruption behind the scenes there would be a revolution. He briefly list the corruptions as known as of today, which is by far worst than back then.

He describes the current and next Presidential office as the biggest leadership vaccum of all times. It is a show and a disgrace giving the people to elect between two evils that is the same.

He also talks about that it's all about the wars and not the economy. Then he closes with the current economy status in the world that is about to fall.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/08/12 07:51 PM

So you would agree that it's not the banks but the Jesuits behind it and all the other organizations. The banks are only a tool, like many of their other enterprises, they use to exert their power and control.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/09/12 10:12 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
So you would agree that it's not the banks but the Jesuits behind it and all the other organizations. The banks are only a tool, like many of their other enterprises, they use to exert their power and control.
No the Jesuits are not the ones behind the banks. The Rothschild are. The Jesuits are one of their vessels they operate through. The Jesuits do not call the big shots, however they are not micro-managed either and can operate on their own.

However, the Jesuits background's, via its founder Loloya, is Marranos which is the same background as the Rothschild and other families that are on top of the pyramid.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/10/12 06:08 PM

Your quote, "Thus when people today argue whether it is the Jesuits or the Illuminati who are responsible for our troubles, they are really talking about the same beast. "

Are the Marranos currently operating or was that an Oriental (or other) method which the Jesuits employed?

But I guess I need to realize you don't believe Ellen White was correct on who the beast is, right?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/16/12 03:35 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Are the Marranos currently operating or was that an Oriental (or other) method which the Jesuits employed?
??? Marranos is a name given to the Jews in Spain in the 1400s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marrano That's when Loyola was raised and lived. I don't believe anyone are called Marranos today.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/18/12 03:54 PM

Thank you for agreeing. I didn't think the Marranos were currently operating.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/26/12 03:11 PM

Comrade Capitalists Targets of Spire Law Group, LLP's Racketeering and Money Laundering Lawsuit Seeking Return of $43 Trillion to the United States Treasury

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/major-b...sury-2012-10-25

NEW YORK, Oct. 25, 2012 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ --

Spire Law Group, LLP's national home owners' lawsuit, pending in the venue where the "Banksters" control their $43 trillion racketeering scheme (New York) - known as the largest money laundering and racketeering lawsuit in United States History and identifying $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) of laundered money by the "Banksters" and their U.S. racketeering partners and joint venturers - now pinpoints the identities of the key racketeering partners of the "Banksters" located in the highest offices of government and acting for their own self-interests.

In connection with the federal lawsuit now impending in the United States District Court in Brooklyn, New York (Case No. 12-cv-04269-JBW-RML) - involving, among other things, a request that the District Court enjoin all mortgage foreclosures by the Banksters nationwide, unless and until the entire $43 trillion is repaid to a court-appointed receiver - Plaintiffs now establish the location of the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) of laundered money in a racketeering enterprise participated in by the following individuals (without limitation): Attorney General Holder acting in his individual capacity, Assistant Attorney General Tony West, the brother in law of Defendant California Attorney General Kamala Harris (both acting in their individual capacities), Jon Corzine (former New Jersey Governor), Robert Rubin (former Treasury Secretary and Bankster), Timothy Geitner, Treasury Secretary (acting in his individual capacity), Vikram Pandit (recently resigned and disgraced Chairman of the Board of Citigroup), Valerie Jarrett (a Senior White House Advisor), Anita Dunn (a former "communications director" for the Obama Administration), Robert Bauer (husband of Anita Dunn and Chief Legal Counsel for the Obama Re-election Campaign), as well as the "Banksters" themselves, and their affiliates and conduits. The lawsuit alleges serial violations of the United States Patriot Act, the Policy of Embargo Against Iran and Countries Hostile to the Foreign Policy of the United States, and the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (commonly known as the RICO statute) and other State and Federal laws.

In the District Court lawsuit, Spire Law Group, LLP -- on behalf of home owner across the Country and New York taxpayers, as well as under other taxpayer recompense laws -- has expanded its mass tort action into federal court in Brooklyn, New York, seeking to halt all foreclosures nationwide pending the return of the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000.00) by the "Banksters" and their co-conspirators, seeking an audit of the Fed and audits of all the "bailout programs" by an independent receiver such as Neil Barofsky, former Inspector General of the TARP program who has stated that none of the TARP money and other "bailout money" advanced from the Treasury has ever been repaid despite protestations to the contrary by the Defendants as well as similar protestations by President Obama and the Obama Administration both publicly on national television and more privately to the United States Congress. Because the Obama Administration has failed to pursue any of the "Banksters" criminally, and indeed is actively borrowing monies for Mr. Obama's campaign from these same "Banksters" to finance its political aspirations, the national group of plaintiff home owners has been forced to now expand its lawsuit to include racketeering, money laundering and intentional violations of the Iranian Nations Sanctions and Embargo Act by the national banks included among the "Bankster" Defendants.

The complaint - which has now been fully served on thousands of the "Banksters and their Co-Conspirators" - makes it irrefutable that the epicenter of this laundering and racketeering enterprise has been and continues to be Wall Street and continues to involve the very "Banksters" located there who have repeatedly asked in the past to be "bailed out" and to be "bailed out" in the future.

The Havens for the money laundering schemes - and certain of the names and places of these entities - are located in such venues as Switzerland, the Isle of Man, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Cypress and entities controlled by governments adverse to the interests of the United States Sanctions and Embargo Act against Iran, and are also identified in both the United Nations and the U.S. Senate's recent reports on international money laundering. Many of these entities have already been personally served with summons and process of the complaint during the last six months. It is now beyond dispute that, while the Obama Administration was publicly encouraging loan modifications for home owners by "Banksters", it was privately ratifying the formation of these shell companies in violation of the United States Patriot Act, and State and Federal law. The case further alleges that through these obscure foreign companies, Bank of America, J.P. Morgan, Wells Fargo Bank, Citibank, Citigroup, One West Bank, and numerous other federally chartered banks stole trillions of dollars of home owners' and taxpayers' money during the last decade and then laundered it through offshore companies.

This District Court Complaint - maintained by Spire Law Group, LLP -- is the only lawsuit in the world listing as Defendants the Banksters, let alone serving all of such Banksters with legal process and therefore forcing them to finally answer the charges in court. Neither the Securities and Exchange Commission, nor the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, nor the Office of the Attorney General, nor any State Attorney General has sued the Banksters and thereby legally chased them worldwide to recover-back the $43 trillion ($43,000,000,000,000.00) and other lawful damages, injunctive relief and other legal remedies.

James N. Fiedler, Managing Partner of Spire Law Group, LLP, stated: "It is hard for me to believe as a 47-year lawyer that our nation's guardians have been unwilling to stop this theft. Spire Law Group, LLP stands for the elimination of corruption and implementation of lawful strategies, and that is what we're doing here. Spire Law Group, LLP's charter is to not allow such corruption to go unanswered."

Comments were requested from the Attorney Generals' offices in NY, CA, NV, NH , OH, MA and the White House, but no comment was provided.

About Spire Law Group

Spire Law Group, LLP is a national law firm whose motto is "the public should be protected -- at all costs -- from corruption in whatever form it presents itself." The Firm is comprised of lawyers nationally with more than 250-years of experience in a span of matters ranging from representing large corporations and wealthy individuals, to also representing the masses. The Firm is at the front lines litigating against government officials, banks, defunct loan pools, and now the very offshore entities where the corruption was enabled and perpetrated.

Contact: James N. Fiedler877-438-8766 http://spire-law.com
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/27/12 01:12 AM

Banksia Financial Group collapse

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victori...x-1226504226733

THE fallout from The Banksia Financial Group collapse continues to spread.

"About 15,000 investment accounts have been frozen as receivers work through the company's books.
Receiver McGrathNicol said yesterday it was still trying to work out what had led to the downfall.
But it expect to provide investors with a "meaningful return" on the $650 million of funds now in question.
The collapse came less than four weeks after Banksia's auditors gave the accounts of Banksia Securities, the key subsidiary behind the group's downfall, a clean bill of health...."


Read more at the link above.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/27/12 01:16 AM

9 More Banks Subpoenaed Over Libor
October 26, 2012 Yahoo. com
By Reed Albergotti | The Wall Street Journal

Nine more banks have received subpoenas in connection with a probe into alleged widespread interest-rate manipulation by banks, a person familiar with the investigation said.

The probe, a joint effort by the offices of New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and Connecticut Attorney General George Jepsen, could lead to civil enforcement action related to breaches of antitrust and fraud laws.

The subpoenas, which were issued in August and September but haven’t been previously reported, bring the total number of subpoenas in the case to 16. The banks involved in the probe include most members of the panel that helps set the dollar London interbank offered rate.

The investigation by the state prosecutors is part of a global probe, in which more than a dozen federal and other regulators across three continents are looking into allegations that several banks rigged Libor.

The nine banks that received subpoenas in August and September were: Bank of America Corp., Bank of Tokyo Mitsubishi UFJ, Credit Suisse Group AG, Lloyds Banking Group PLC, Rabobank Groep NV, Royal Bank of Canada, Société Générale, Norinchukin Bank and West LB AG, according to the person familiar with the investigation.

The person confirmed that seven other banks had received subpoenas in the investigation. Information about those subpoenas were made public previously.

Representatives for Bank of America, Credit Suisse, Bank of Tokyo and Norinchukin Bank declined to comment. The other five banks subpoenaed in August and September that hadn’t previously been disclosed couldn’t be reached for comment.

The joint probe of the two attorneys general was reported by The Wall Street Journal earlier this year.

The New York-Connecticut Libor investigation focus on the ways Libor rates could have affected investors, state agencies and municipalities that invested in interest-rate swaps tied to the rate to help manage their debt costs. The losses that may have occurred because of rate manipulation could have a direct impact on state finances. Interest-rate investigations are also occurring in other states, including Massachusetts and Florida, the Journal previously reported.

Barclays PLC paid about $450 million to U.S. and U.K. regulators as part of a settlement in which the British bank admitted that executives and traders had manipulated Libor. The deal led to the resignation of the firm’s CEO and chairman.

Related articles

■Royal Bank subpoenaed in LIBOR probe (cbc.ca)
■Libor probe reaches Bank of America (newsobsever.com)
Posted By: Johann

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/27/12 01:56 AM

Elle, does this have any relation to your personal salvation or well being?

What does the Bible mean to you?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/27/12 01:59 AM

WORLDWIDE SATANIC GOVERNMENT PAEDOPHILE RINGS FINALLY EXPOSED IN PARLIAMENT!



British paedophile ring 'protected by Parliament and Downing Street'

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/l...t-16229339.html

A powerful paedophile network may have operated in Britain protected by its connections to Parliament and Downing Street, a senior Labour politician suggested yesterday.

Speaking from the back benches of the House of Commons, Tom Watson, the deputy chairman of the Labour Party, called on the Metropolitan Police to reopen a closed criminal inquiry into paedophilia.


Indicating his anxiety that there had been an establishment cover-up, Mr Watson referred to the case of Peter Righton, who was convicted in 1992 of importing and possessing illegal homosexual pornographic material.


Righton, a former consultant to the National Children’s Bureau and lecturer at the National Institute for Social Work in London, admitted two illegal importation charges and one charge of possessing obscene material. He was fined £900.


At Prime Minister’s Questions, Mr Watson said the evidence file used to convict Righton “if it still exists, contains clear intelligence of a widespread paedophile ring”.


He told a hushed Commons: “One of its members boasts of a link to a senior aide of a former Prime Minister, who says he could smuggle indecent images of children from abroad.


“The leads were not followed up, but if the files still exist, I want to ensure that the Metropolitan Police secure the evidence, re-examine it, and investigate clear intelligence suggesting a powerful paedophile network linked to Parliament and No 10.”


In the aftermath of Mr Watson’s remarks, media outlets speculated that he was referring to the late former Prime Minister Sir Edward Heath – who was the subject of unsubstantiated rumours about sex with under-age boys – or to Sir Peter Morrison, a former Downing Street aide who died in 1995.


However, The Independent understands that Mr Watson’s comments were not aimed at either Sir Edward or Sir Peter, but at a living person associated with Margaret Thatcher’s administration.


They are thought to involve the activities of the Paedophile Information Exchange, a pro-paedophile group in existence between 1974 and 1984, which believed there should be no age of consent.


Responding to the remarks, David Cameron said the MP had raised “a very difficult and complex case”, adding he was unclear which former Prime Minister Mr Watson was referring to.


Criticising the BBC’s record on Savile – who was never caught and died last year aged 84, the Prime Minister said: "These allegations do leave many institutions - perhaps particularly the BBC - with serious questions to answer - I think above all the question, 'How did he get away with this for so long?'.”


He told MPs: "The most important thing is that the police investigation is properly resourced and is allowed to continue.”

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UK government turns up heat on BBC over sex abuse scandal

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-bbc-savile-idUSBRE89N0T420121024

"(Reuters) - The British government warned the BBC on Wednesday that a growing sex abuse scandal was raising "very real concerns" about public trust in the broadcaster.

The BBC has been thrown into disarray by accusations that it helped cover up sexual abuse by one of its former presenters, Jimmy Savile, and has struggled to explain why one of its own programs dropped an investigation into Savile last year.

Police and the BBC, which is funded by the public through a license fee, are looking into allegations that the eccentric, cigar-chomping Savile, who died last year, abused girls as young as 12 over six decades. Some of the attacks were alleged to have taken place on BBC premises.

"These allegations do leave many institutions, perhaps particularly the BBC, with serious questions to answer," Prime Minister David Cameron told parliament.

"The government will do everything it can do, other institutions must do what they can do, to make sure we learn the lessons of this and it can never happen again."

Cameron's comments follow a letter from Culture Secretary Maria Miller who told the BBC that "very real concerns are being raised about public trust and confidence in the BBC".

Lawmakers and the media heavily criticized Director General George Entwistle for his uncertain appearance before parliament on Tuesday to answer questions over the scandal.

His predecessor, Mark Thompson, is also facing scrutiny over his handling of the case.

The public editor of Thompson's soon-to-be employer, the New York Times, questioned whether the Briton was now fit to serve in his new role with such a scandal hanging over him.

"How likely is it that (Thompson) knew nothing?" Margaret Sullivan wrote in a blog post on Tuesday.

"His integrity and decision-making are bound to affect The Times and its journalism - profoundly. It's worth considering now whether he is the right person for the job, given this turn of events.

Thompson has said he was not briefed on the high-profile Newsnight program that detailed allegations against Savile, who hosted prime-time children's shows on the BBC, and he was not involved in the decision to shelve its report.

FURORE

The furor is the biggest controversy to hit the BBC since its director general and chairman resigned in 2004 after a judge-led inquiry ruled it had wrongly reported that former Prime Minister Tony Blair "sexed up" intelligence to justify the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Entwistle, who was announced as the new director general in August, told hostile lawmakers on Tuesday that failures at the BBC had allowed Savile to prey on young girls, but he denied he had helped suppress the Newsnight report.

Damian Collins, a lawmaker from the ruling Conservative Party and a member of the parliamentary committee which questioned Entwistle, told Reuters there were mounting concerns about the BBC and its management.

"I don't think the director general gave a very convincing performance yesterday and I think there were a lot of questions about the decisions he's taken," he said.

In reference to Thompson, who was director general at the time of the Newsnight decision, he said: "I find it extraordinary that the decision to close down the Jimmy Savile investigation could have been taken without the knowledge of the director general, who is the editor-in-chief, because this was not any run-of-the-mill investigation.

"It was one of the highest importance, involving some very grave criminal allegations about someone who had been a BBC employee for decades."

The BBC said new allegations had been made against nine current BBC staff or contributors since revelations about Savile were first broadcast by rival channel ITV.

These ranged from inappropriate language or behavior to harassment and serious claims of sexual assault. Where appropriate, details had been passed to the police.

"I can't go into specifics," said a BBC spokeswoman. "Where appropriate action needs to be taken and people would need to be suspended, that will happen."


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Savile victims allege paedophile ring existed at BBC
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/25/uk-bbc-savile-idUKBRE89N0T320121025
(Reuters) - A sex scandal gripping BBC deepened on Wednesday with claims that a paedophile ring had existed involving some of its stars, as its former director general said his handling of the case shouldn't stop him becoming the boss of the New York Times.

The BBC has been thrown into disarray by accusations it helped cover up sexual abuse by one of its most celebrated former presenters, Jimmy Savile, and has struggled to explain why one of its own shows killed an investigation into it.

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Learn the secrets of options trading from Bernie Schaeffer - free!Sign up Free hereThe broadcaster's current Director General George Entwistle has been condemned for his handling of one of the worst crises in the corporation's 90-year history and questions have also been raised about his predecessor Mark Thompson, who is set to take over at the New York Times Co next month.

The government warned the BBC on Wednesday that the scandal was raising "very real concerns" about public trust.

"These allegations do leave many institutions, perhaps particularly the BBC, with serious questions to answer," Prime Minister David Cameron told parliament.

Police and the BBC, which is funded by the public through an annual licence fee, are looking into allegations that the eccentric, cigar-chomping Savile, who died last year, abused young girls over six decades.

Some of the attacks were alleged to have taken place on BBC premises.

Lawyers representing some of the male and female victims, some of whom were as young as eight when the abuse occurred, said their clients had indicated an organised paedophile ring involving other celebrities had existed at the BBC during the height of Savile's fame in the 1970s and 80s.

"There is information of a possible paedophile ring and we have people who have approached us with that information," Alicia Alinia, one of the lead lawyers involved in the cases for the Slater and Gordon law firm told Reuters.

"It seems to be a number of people who were involved other than Jimmy Savile, I can't reveal any specific names of celebrities involved, but it seems as though it wasn't just limited to unknowns."

Earlier, the BBC said new allegations had been made against nine current BBC staff or contributors since revelations about Savile were first broadcast by rival channel ITV.

These ranged from inappropriate language or behaviour to harassment and serious claims of sexual assault.

"Where appropriate action needs to be taken and people would need to be suspended, that will happen," a BBC spokeswoman said.

In a sign the scandal could spread further, lawmaker Tom Watson told parliament a senior aide to an unnamed former prime minister might have been involved in a suspected paedophile ring.

"I want to ensure that the Metropolitan Police secure the evidence, re-examine it, and investigate clear intelligence suggesting a powerful paedophile network linked to parliament and Number 10" he said.

"REAL CONCERNS"

The developments come at a time when politicians are increasingly voicing disquiet about the BBC's broader management structure.

Culture Secretary Maria Miller wrote to the broadcaster's independent governing body to say "very real concerns are being raised about public trust and confidence in the BBC".

MPs and the media heavily criticised Entwistle for his unconvincing appearance before parliament on Tuesday to answer questions over the scandal.

Thompson, his predecessor, is also facing scrutiny over his handling of the case. The public editor of the New York Times openly questioned whether the Briton was now fit to serve in his new role with such a scandal hanging over him.

"I do not believe there is anything that I've done in relation to this matter which should in anyway impinge on my abilities to fully discharge the responsibilities I'll have at the New York Times," Thompson told Reuters.

He said he was not briefed on the high-profile investigative programme that was looking into allegations against Savile, who hosted prime-time children's shows on the BBC, and that he was not involved in the decision to kill its report.

Entwistle, who replaced him as BBC director general in September, told hostile MPs on Tuesday that failures at the corporation had allowed Savile to prey on young girls, but he too denied he had helped suppress the report.

Damian Collins, an MP from the Conservative Party and a member of the parliamentary committee which questioned Entwistle, said it still wanted answers.

"I don't think the director general gave a very convincing performance yesterday and I think there were a lot of questions about the decisions he's taken," he told Reuters.

In reference to Thompson, who was director general when the decision was taken to drop the investigative Newsnight programme into the subject, he said:

"I find it extraordinary that the decision to close down the Jimmy Savile investigation could have been taken without the knowledge of the director general, who is the editor-in-chief, because this was not any run-of-the-mill investigation.

"It was one of the highest importance, involving some very grave criminal allegations about someone who had been a BBC employee for decades."


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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/27/12 02:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Johann
Elle, does this have any relation to your personal salvation or well being?

What does the Bible mean to you?

The Lord has given us prophecies to rejoice when these are fulfilled.

A Jubilee(like Iceland) is coming!

However, some personal preparation is needed! The Banks are bankrupted. It's just a matter of little time before they close up. But don't wait 'till they do for they will not give any warning. Look what recently happened to Australia's Banksia Financial Group. "The collapse came less than four weeks after Banksia's auditors gave the accounts of Banksia Securities, the key subsidiary behind the group's downfall, a clean bill of health."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/27/12 02:18 AM

Victoria Grant, a 12-yrs old Canadian, Research & Speech to spark interest to engage the Canadian Government to stop the Banking criminal Actions against the People of Canada

This is a very good well researched speech she did which circulated on you-tube. Then she was invited in the US to deliver her speech.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/01/12 01:05 AM

!!!!! There will be Panic into Gold: Doug Casey



Published on Oct 29, 2012

We caught up w/ Doug Casey, founder of Casey Research and participant in our “Great Financial Debate: Carville vs. Krauthammer vs. Casey” (http://bit.ly/kitco_events) at the 2012 New Orleans Investment Conference, and he shared with us some of the concepts from his panel discussions at the conference, as well as why he believes panic will be entering the gold market. Kitco News, October 29, 2012.

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/do...-video_10312012

International man and well known investment strategist Doug Casey warns that the world’s economic, financial and monetary systems have passed the point of no return and a change of ownership over global resources will soon take place.

At the 2012 Investment Conference in New Orleans, Casey explains why neither Presidential candidate will change anything, where the real wealth in the world is found, why gold is a must-own survival asset, and what to expect next:

We’re going to go through a really, really rough spot starting anytime between tomorrow morning and the next year.

We’re exiting the eye of the hurricane where we’ve been in since 2007… We’re going into the trailing edge of the hurricane, it’s going to last a long time, and it’s going to be very, very severe.



All the real wealth in the world – the skills in peoples’ hands, the knowledge in their minds, the factories, the farms – that’s all going to be here. It’s not going to go away.

It’s just the financial system, the economic system that’s going to collapse.

There’s going to be a huge change of ownership for those things
, which is going to be very unpleasant and inconvenient for a lot of people.



It is beyond the point of no return as far as I am concerned for Europe, and for Japan, and the U.S., and China – all the developed economies, quite frankly.



Gold remains the only financial asset that’s not simultaneously somebody else’s liability.

All of these governments all over the world are printing up trillions of currency units and they’re accelerating the pace of doing so.

There’s going to be a panic into gold. There’s going to be a mania in gold. There’s going to be a bubble in gold in the future.

Even though, as we speak now, it’s at $1700, it’s no longer cheap, but it’s going a lot higher…

We’re looking at the biggest economic upset since the industrial revolution.

…[Predicting the price] is crystal ball gazing; it depends on how stupid the government is and how out of line the mob psychology becomes.

But, by the time this comes to a peak I wouldn’t be surprised – in real terms, today’s dollars – to see the equivalent of $5000 per ounce.

Of course, that may be 10 or 15 considering how badly they’re going to inflate the currency…

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/01/12 04:19 PM

So this is everyone's last call to sell their gold before the gold bubble bursts! Sure, it may go up some more, but just like anything else, are you smart enough to know when it peaks? Will you know when to sell before you are stuck holding a bag of rocks?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/27/12 05:19 AM

China Launching Gold Backed Global Currency

http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2012/09/china-launching-gold-backed-global-currency-2452362.html

Thursday, September 20, 2012

According to the article, China is recasting all of their gold reserves into small one kilo bars in order to issue a new “gold-backed” currency. Many say this will disrupt global trade and will eventually cause a collapse of the US dollar.

There can be no doubt that the US dollar will soon be history. China is recasting all of their gold reserves into small one kilo bars in order to issue a new ‘gold backed’ global currency. This is surely a strategic part of their recent push to sign new trade agreements with Russia, Japan, Chile, Brazil, India, and Iran. The cat is now out of the bag, the US will be given the ‘bums rush’ by the largest trading nations in the world and the dollar will go down in flames. GATA now estimates that 80% of the gold that investors believe they have in allocated accounts is long gone, the majority of it probably wound up in China.

Read the entire article below:

http://worldtruth.tv/china-launching-gold-backed-global-currency/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/27/12 05:25 AM

Outline on Collapse End Game

This article is long but a good overview about where we are. I'm only including the introductory paragraph. You can read the entire article at this link : http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1340820786.php

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[Introduction]

Many are the events, signals, and telltale clues of a real live actual systemic failure in progress. Until the last several months, such banter was dismissed by the soldiers in the financial arena. But lately, they cannot dismiss the onslaught of evidence, a veritable plethora of ugly symptoms of conditions gone terribly wrong and solutions at best gone awry and at worst never intended in the first place. My theory has been steady from the TARP Fund scandal and the Too Big To Fail mantra of deceit. The plan all along since the breakdown began in September 2008 has been to preserve power, to maintain intact the insolvent banks an operational crew of zombies, to aid the financial sector bound in Wall Street, to pay benign neglect to Main Street and businesses (expect for symbols like General Motors), to expand the propaganda of a fictional recovery, and to maintain the endless wars. The wars serve two purposes, to enable significant fraud from overcharged services, and to hold open the gateways for sizeable money laundering flows into the Wall Street banks, those hollow structures that closely resemble a coke addict with dark teeth, wretched bones, wasted organs, lost attention, and a listless gait. The Greek showcase is coming to a neighborhood near you in Western Europe and Great Britain, soon to feature debuts across North America. No, the United States is not immune from the horrors of ruin since its marquee billboards read Zero Percent. It only means the wrecking ball works from the inside out, serving as the central needle in the Black Hole. An outline of the End Game can be written. This article is not comprehensive by any means. But it serves as a decent posting on an outhouse wall. Consider the following as musings in observation of Uncle Sam on death row. They bear no logical flow, just random concepts.

...to read more http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1340820786.php
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/14/12 02:50 PM

Everything is moving forward according to the Lord's Plan. Lots of worldwide House cleanup news. What is encouraging is we now see more prosecutions and arrests of the too big to fail people in power. There's more bigger ones that needs to be arrested and hopefully it will happen very shortly.

Below is just a small list that someone put together of the recent news. This list does not represent what has been going on this past few months and I haven't seen anyone compiling the arrests or prosecutions. While following the middle East news, I've seen many military generals removed from power by which none is mentioned in the small list below.

Here's a little glimpse of some recent news that someone blog :

Originally Posted By: Removing the Shackles Blog
China dismisses top provincial official after corruption probe
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/13/us-china-corruption-idUSBRE8BC08320121213

Singapore official resigns over affair

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/12/12/singapore-official-resigns-over-affair.html

The Times Editor Harding Resigns

LONDON—The editor of U.K. newspaper The Times resigned Wednesday, marking the latest in a series of high-level management changes at News Corp
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323981504578175311217663932.html



Louisiana U.S. Attorney Resigns; Prosecuted O’Keefe
http://patterico.com/2012/12/10/louisiana-u-s-attorney-resigns-prosecuted-okeefe/


Attorney General Eric Holder’s chief of staff, Gary Grindler, plans to resign his post at the Department of Justice on Wednesday. Grindler was directly involved in the Operation Fast and Furious scandal.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/...ast-and-Furious

SNC-Lavalin suspends payments to ex-CEO arrested for fraud

http://ca.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idCABRE8BC0RH20121213


Max Clifford arrested on suspicion of sexual offencesOne of UK's best known publicists arrested by officers investigating abuse claims against Jimmy Savile and others
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/dec/06/max-clifford-arrested


28 arrested in Spain for alleged links to Toronto-based child [censored] network

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/28-arrested-in-spain-for-alleged-links-to-toronto-based-child-[censored]-network/article6136068/


10 arrested in international cybercrime ring

http://news.yahoo.com/10-arrested-international-cybercrime-ring-015105258.html
edited 12/12/12 2:04 to add:


Three British men arrested in Libor probe

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/sfo-arrests-three-libor-probe-115115659--finance.html

President resigns after riots leave 22 dead in Argentina
President Fernando De la Rua resigned and fled the government palace in a helicopter, driven from office by a devastating economic crisis and days of rioting that left 22 people dead and homes and supermarkets across Argentina ransacked.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...l#ixzz2Erh9DXec


Tunisian President May Resign

http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/2012/12/04/tunisian-president-may-resign/


The President of South Sudan, Salva Kiir, Must Resign

http://www.southsudannewsagency.com/opin...iir-must-resign



KNU President General Tamla Baw resigns and urges Congress to elect ‘right leaders’

http://www.bnionline.net/index.php/news/...ht-leaders.html

UPDATE 3-Police arrest Serbia's richest man in anti-graft probe
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/12/serbia-tycoon-idUSL5E8NC5Y120121212


Investigations against German Bank directors after raid
Wednesday 12, December 2012, 16:41 Clock

500 policeman and tax investigators raid Deutsche Bank for tax fraud
http://de.reuters.com/article/topNews/idDEBEE8BB04X20121212

Italian police arrest ex-Finmeccanica exec, investigate former minister for alleged corruption

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/busines...-175397181.html


Syria Issues Arrest Warrants against Hariri, MP Saqr, Louay Meqdad

http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/64222


Minister Mangoma arrested
http://www.newsday.co.zw/2012/10/10/minister-mangoma-arrested/


Former premier of Turks and Caicos accused of corruption arrested in Brazil

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Former+premier+Turks+Caicos+accused+corruption+arrested+Brazil/7667047/story.html#ixzz2EnegjJR6

Former Croatian prime minister Ivo Sanader arrested
Former Croatian prime minister, Ivo Sanader, wanted in connection with an anti-corruption probe, was arrested in Austria on Friday.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...r-arrested.html


Cayman Islands premier McKeeva Bush arrested

The premier of the Cayman Islands has been arrested as part of a corruption investigation, local police say.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20679259


Malta Government Collapses After Own MP Joins Opposition to Vote Down Budget Bill
http://www.tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=1&i=9609


Clinton cancels Middle East trip because of ill health

http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-cancels-middle-east-trip-because-ill-health-041117706.html

Former President George H.W. Bush in hospital for third week

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/f...k#ixzz2EliBc6Wa



Venezuela awaits Chavez update
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1211/breaking41.html


Kuwait's government resigns to make way for new cabinet
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/kuwaits-government-resigns-way-cabinet-122323176--business.html


Entire Ukraine government resigns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...nt-resigns.html


EUR/USD Facing Pressure After Italian Prime Minister Resigns
http://forexblog.oanda.com/20121210/eurusd-facing-pressure-after-italian-prime-minister-resigns/

Cheikh Modibo Diarra, Mali Prime Minister, Resigns After Being Arrested By Junta

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/11..._n_2274695.html




Indonesian minister resigns over corruption allegations



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-07/indonesian-minister-resigns-over-corruption/4415802

Orphy Klempa Resigns Senate Seat Monday to Join Ohio County Commission
http://www.wtrf.com/story/20309343/orphy...unty-commission


Benghazi Local Council president resigns again



http://www.saudigazette.com.sa/index.cfm?method=home.regcon&contentid=20121210145543


Update: BBC chief resigns
http://www.thespec.com/news/world/article/834191--update-bbc-chief-resigns



Dutch government falls in budget crisis
Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte has tendered his government's resignation to Queen Beatrix, paving the way for early elections.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17811509

Polish economy minister, deputy premier resigns

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/world/polish-economy-minister-deputy-premier-resigns-316339.html

It appears that we will have some good world wide announcement this Christmas. Hopefully the Global Banking Restructuring will happen by then.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/24/12 10:49 PM

Here's a good post in Steven Jones' blog today.

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...reserve-system/
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IMF considers abolishing the Federal Reserve System
December 24, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Last August the IMF web site put out an article discussing the revival of the so-called “Chicago Plan,” which was proposed in the 1930’s in the wake of the Great Depression. This plan advocated the use of government currency, rather than private currency such as Federal Reserve Notes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_plan

The Chicago Plan was a viable alternative to the Federal Reserve System, put together by economists in Chicago. Although it was discussed in 1933, hardly any of its proposals were actually passed into law with the Banking Act of 1935. With the second recession of 1937-38, the Chicago Plan was discussed further, but nothing came of it. Obviously, the private banking families who owned the Federal Reserve Bank wanted to maintain control of the nation’s monetary system.

With the recent economic crisis, the Chicago Plan is again being revisited, and the IMF is now discussing the feasibility of switching over to government-issued money. If implemented, this would essentially abolish the Fed by not renewing its 99-year contract which ends today.

This is essentially the core of the monetary conflict between East and West. The IMF article can be viewed in its entirety here:

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2012/wp12202.pdf

Here is the Abstract, or the thesis statement of the article:

Originally Posted By: Abstract of The Chicago Plan
Abstract

At the height of the Great Depression a number of leading U.S. economists advanced a proposal for monetary reform that became known as the Chicago Plan. It envisaged the separation of the monetary and credit functions of the banking system, by requiring 100% reserve backing for deposits. Irving Fisher (1936) claimed the following advantages for this plan:

(1) Much better control of a major source of business cycle fluctuations, sudden increases and contractions of bank credit and of the supply of bank-created money.

(2) Complete elimination of bank runs.

(3) Dramatic reduction of the (net) public debt.

(4) Dramatic reduction of private debt, as money creation no longer requires simultaneous debt creation.

We study these claims by embedding a comprehensive and carefully calibrated model of the banking system in a DSGE model of the U.S. economy. We find support for all four of Fisher's claims. Furthermore, output gains approach 10 percent, and steady state inflation can drop to zero without posing problems for the conduct of monetary policy.

In other words, if the government created its own money and issued its own currency, it could eliminate fractional banking so that all loans would be backed 100%, rather than just 10%. Further into the article, we read more about these four propositions:
Originally Posted By: The Chicago Plan
First, preventing banks from creating their own funds during credit booms, and then destroying these funds during subsequent contractions, would allow for a much better control of credit cycles, which were perceived to be the major source of business cycle fluctuations.

Second, 100% reserve backing would completely eliminate bank runs.

Third, allowing the government to issue money directly at zero interest, rather than borrowing that same money from banks at interest, would lead to a reduction in the interest burden on government finances and to a dramatic reduction of (net) government debt, given that irredeemable government-issued money represents equity in the commonwealth rather than debt.

Fourth, given that money creation would no longer require the simultaneous creation of mostly private debts on bank balance sheets, the economy could see a dramatic reduction not only of government debt but also of private debt levels.

We take it as self-evident that if these claims can be verified, the Chicago Plan would indeed represent a highly desirable policy.

The Federal Reserve Bank was sold to Congress on the grounds that it would stop the boom-and-bust credit cycles, as well as bank runs. It obviously failed to live up to its claims. The Chicago Plan is presented as a much better alternative.

But even more important, it would practically eliminate the national debt, because the government would no longer have to borrow money from the Federal Reserve, but could create money itself. It would be a Treasury Note, or a National Bank Note, rather than a Federal Reserve Note. The article continues,

Originally Posted By: The Chicago Plan
In this context it is critical to realize that the stock of reserves, or money, newly issued by the government is not a debt of the government. The reason is that fiat money is not redeemable, in that holders of money cannot claim repayment in something other than money. Money is therefore properly treated as government equity rather than government debt, which is exactly how treasury coin is currently treated under U.S. accounting conventions (Federal Accounting Standards Advisory Board (2012)).

I also find it interesting (astounding, actually) that this article mentions the “shadow banking system,” which is the banking system that contains the off-books, non-taxed assets of the truly wealthy:
Originally Posted By: The Chicago Plan
The third advantage of the Chicago Plan is a dramatic reduction of (net) government debt. The overall outstanding liabilities of today’s U.S. financial system, including the shadow banking system, are far larger than currently outstanding U.S. Treasury liabilities.

It is because of this “shadow banking system” that the really wealthy people do not mind raising taxes on the wealthy, as President Obama is advocating. The reason is simple. The vast majority of their money is in the shadow banking system and is therefore not visible as taxable income. The only ones who would have to pay higher taxes are the medium-wealthy people who are not part of the shadow banking system. But they do not have much political power. The article continues,
Originally Posted By: The Chicago Plan
We find strong support for all four of Fisher’s claims, with the potential for much smoother business cycles, no possibility of bank runs, a large reduction of debt levels across the economy, and a replacement of that debt by debt-free government-issued money.

It appears that the IMF is taking this Chicago Plan seriously, now that the Federal Reserve System has proven to be a failure. In my view, this could only happen because the Kings of the East have gained influence and control over the IMF, replacing the previous Babylonian owners.

For decades, men have advocated government-issued debt-free money, but they were considered to be quirks and quacks who did not have any serious knowledge of economics and financial matters. But now it is apparent that they were right all along, and the IMF is preparing to acknowledge this and make the change itself.

Babylon is falling.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/04/13 04:29 PM

Here's the latest about the Chicago Plan in the MAINSTREAM News. It's Big.

Below is the news link, quotes from the link, Stephen's comments about it, and [my comments in Brown in Brakets].

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Mainstream news media reveals banker secret
January 03, 2013 at 1:24 PM

This news article from The Telegraph explains more about the Chicago Plan to eliminate all debt. It contains some astounding admissions.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comme...ne-bankers.html

Originally Posted By: Telegraph News
IMF's epic plan to conjure away debt and dethrone bankers
So there is a magic wand after all. A revolutionary paper by the International Monetary Fund claims that one could eliminate the net public debt of the US at a stroke, and by implication do the same for Britain, Germany, Italy, or Japan.

You can bet that this new plan does not reflect the will of the Western bankers who took control of money creation back in 1666 in Britain, then in 1913 in America. It looks like the Kings of the East[Royal Families from China and 160 allied countries] are storming the gates of Babylon and now have sufficient economic clout in the IMF to create a whole new system.

Originally Posted By: Telegraph News
One could slash private debt by 100pc of GDP, boost growth, stabilize prices, and dethrone bankers all at the same time. It could be done cleanly and painlessly, by legislative command, far more quickly than anybody imagined.
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The conjuring trick is to replace our system of private bank-created money -- roughly 97pc of the money supply -- with state-created money. We return to the historical norm, before Charles II placed control of the money supply in private hands with the English Free Coinage Act of 1666.

Specifically, it means an assault on "fractional reserve banking". If lenders are forced to put up 100pc reserve backing for deposits, they lose the exorbitant privilege of creating money out of thin air.

The nation regains sovereign control over the money supply. There are no more banks runs, and fewer boom-bust credit cycles. Accounting legerdemain will do the rest. That at least is the argument.
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Some readers may already have seen the IMF study, by Jaromir Benes and Michael Kumhof, which came out in August and has begun to acquire a cult following around the world.


For decades men have been advocating this, but few have listened. It appears that we just had to come to near economic disaster before anyone believed them. I first began to study this back in the mid-1970's and was suprised to learn that money is a bank-created commodity which they loan to governments. I understood then that we could wipe out the national debt with the stroke of a pen just by switching to Treasury notes.

Originally Posted By: Telegraph News
The key of the Chicago Plan was to separate the "monetary and credit functions" of the banking system. "The quantity of money and the quantity of credit would become completely independent of each other."

Private lenders would no longer be able to create new deposits "ex nihilo". New bank credit would have to be financed by retained earnings.

"The control of credit growth would become much more straightforward because banks would no longer be able, as they are today, to generate their own funding, deposits, in the act of lending, an extraordinary privilege that is not enjoyed by any other type of business," says the IMF paper.

"Rather, banks would become what many erroneously believe them to be today, pure intermediaries that depend on obtaining outside funding before being able to lend.
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In other words, private lenders create money out of nothing ("ex nihilo") and loan it at interest, acquiring profits that they really did not earn at all by any honest labor. There would be nothing wrong with charging a service fee, of course, but interest on money is forbidden in God's law.

It is also a huge paradigm shift to see the mainstream media admitting what the bankers have tried to hide from the average person. Admitting that banks create money out of nothing is, in itself a huge revelation for most people. After all, why do you suppose they called it the FEDERAL Reserve? It was to hide the private ownership of this bank corporation. It was so named to give the appearance of a government-owned institution. How many times have we heard that borrowing money from the FED was OK, because, after all, we were borrowing from ourselves?

Now the mainstream media has broken the taboo and has vindicated many writers who have been persecuted for their opposition to the FED. Under the Chicago Plan, "banks would become what many erroneously believe them to be today." It was the media in past decades that perpetuated this erroneous belief. But it now appears that the media is seeing the handwriting on the wall and has suddenly gotten the revelation to forsake their Babylonian masters and to support Cyrus. Is this the coalition of Media-Persia?

The article closes this way:

Originally Posted By: Telegraph News
One thing is sure. The City of London will have great trouble earning its keep if any variant of the Chicago Plan ever gains wide support.


The City of London is not London itself, but is a financial City State much like the Vatican or Monaco. It is the center of the World Babylonian Empire that is now crumbling. Here is 4-minute video history of the City:


Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/04/13 07:40 PM

Mt 25:27 'So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/05/13 04:47 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Mt 25:27 'So you ought to have deposited my money with the bankers, and at my coming I would have received back my own with interest.

If you read the whole story, that servant judged the Lord as being a usurer, so Jesus judge him with his perception of Him. My paraphrase : “you wicked and lasy servant...you believe I'm a usurer, then why didn't you put my money in the bank to collect interest.”

This parable is really a prophesy about how the Lord will judge His servants(the believers) at His 2nd coming. The talent(money) given symbolize spiritual gifts and the Lord expects us to put them in use and increase them. Jesus was not approving usury in this parable. This would be contradictory to Him not allowing usury in the law.

In the Law of Moses, Usury is not allowed within the nation of Israel. Deut 23:19-20 There was an exception and they could charge interest to foreigners who where passing through. A foreigner is a guest, not a citizen of the nation. But if he obtains citizenship, he must be treated equally according to the Law. The law is impartial to all citizens and discriminates only against non-citizens. The reason is because these people follows a different set of laws and moral practices in their country and do not recognize Jesus Christ as King.

Another reason is it wouldn’t be fair if a foreigner obtain an interest-free loan from an Israelite and then loan it at 30% to a Babylonian under their laws. This person has no right to profit from such an arrangement. But if the foreigner had become a citizen of the nation of Israel, the law says in Leviticus 25:35-37 that he is to be treated equally.

There’s much more that scripture says about usury, but don’t have the time right now. I found this link that brought other scriptures and interesting historical facts about usury.
http://www.conservapedia.com/Usury
Quote:
Usury in History

Islam prohibits usury or interest on loans, as do certain passages in the Old Testament:

Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury: Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it. Deuteronomy 23:19-20 (KJV)

(If he beget a son that) Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him. Ezekiel 18:13 (KJV)

The New Testament also refers to usury, sometimes indirectly:

Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord,I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown,and gathering where thou has not strawed: And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sow not, and gather where I have not strawed: Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Matthew 25:24

And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; John 2:14 (KJV)

Note: Usurers are synonymous with exchangers and changers of money. Matthew 25:24 is often mistakenly interpreted, ignoring the condemnation of usury as a capital offense in Ezekiel 18:13. The "Hard Man" cannot be moral if he wants his servants to engage in an abomination.

And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Luke 6:34-35 (KJV)

Because of this Biblical condemnation, Christians were forbidden to lend money for interest for centuries. Dante's Inferno places usurers in the seventh circle of Hell, along with blasphemers and homosexuals. In Renaissance society, the only people allowed to charge interest were Jews, which often led to resentment as the Jews were enriched by their shrewd financial activity. However, Christian thinking on this subject has changed, and almost all Christians now either lend their money for interest, or have an account in a bank which does it for them. The last Christian denomination to remove the ban on usury was the Roman Catholic Church, in 1918.
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/12/13 03:41 AM

As we are now in 2013, whatever happened to this new global economic restructuring that was supposed to have taken place in 2012 per the topic name of this thread?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/12/13 07:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
As we are now in 2013, whatever happened to this new global economic restructuring that was supposed to have taken place in 2012 per the topic name of this thread?

I think they had thought that it would of been done before 2012 ended, however, it is taking longer. As far as I'm hearing from the reports of reliable sources that are in contact with the King of the Easts(Royal Families of China and the 160 allied countries), they have opt. to take the safer slower road to avoid chaos and many casualities. They have cut off their(Cabalist) money supplies and influences over nations with their lies. Most countries are siding with the King of the Easts and are working together to avoid World War III and against the Fachist New World Order.

They have been working hard behind the scenes to prepare the world for the restructure of the Global Economic System and to launch the Global Posperity Accounts (over 400 Trillions dollars in Gold) into safe hands of those that will use it for the restoration of the earth, the release of environmentally safe new technology(ex. the Keshe Foundation), and making sure that every human being has water, food, clothings, shelter, and a futur.

It appears that an RV(Re-evaluation) of many currencies is coming next week. I don't know if they will restructure all the Banks then but I wouldn't be surprise if they do as it would be the optimum time to do it.

It will be very very interesting to see what will happen this coming 8 months. We'll see what the Lord will accomplish this year. 2012 was indeed a year of "awakening" as many truths about the world's captivity to London's Tyrants came into the light.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/19/13 03:56 PM

Frenzy in the Gold Market: The Repatriation of Germany’s Post World War II Gold Reserves

http://www.globalresearch.ca/frenzy-in-t...eserves/5319287

The decision of Germany’s Bundesbank to repatriate part of its Gold Reserves held at the New York Federal Reserve bank has triggered a frenzy in the gold market.
German news sources suggest that a large portion of the German gold stored in the vaults of the New York Fed and the Banque de France is to be moved back to Germany.

According to analysts, this move could potentially “trigger a chain reaction, prompting other countries to start repatriating the gold stored in London, New York or Paris….


If gold repatriation becomes a worldwide trend, it will be obvious that both the US and UK have lost their credibility as gold custodians. For gold markets worldwide, this move may mark a switch from “financial gold” to “physical gold”, but the process is definitely in its early stages.

The decision to repatriate the German gold is a big victory for a part of the German press that first forced the Bundesbank to admit that 69% of its gold is stored outside Germany. Almost certainly both the German press and at least several German lawmakers will demand a verification procedure for the gold bars returned from New York, just to make sure that Germany doesn’t receive gold-plated tungsten instead of gold. It seems that German decision makers no longer trust their American partners. (Voice of Russia, January 15, 2013, emphasis added)

... more at link above.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/19/13 04:07 PM

ABC News: US Mint Runs Out of 2013 Silver Coin

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/us-mint-sells-2013-silver-coin/story?id=18251966

Jan. 19, 2013

As a result of high investor demand, the U.S. Mint has stopped selling its 2013 American Eagle silver bullion coins.

According to mint spokesman Michael White, 6,700,000 ounces of Silver Eagle coins were sold between Jan. 7, when the coins first went on sale, and Jan. 15. Until this year, the all-time high was 6,422,000 ounces, set in January 2011.

"We mint to demand," mint spokesman Michael White told ABC News.

In an email to authorized purchasers, the mint said it would resume sales around the week of Jan. 28, after it mints more coins.

One of the purchasers, Terry Hanlon, was very happy about the situation.

"I love it," said Hanlon of Dillon Gage Metals, a primary precious metals dealer in Dallas that buys directly from the mint and sells to bankers, coin dealers and jewelers. "We are very, very busy and we have been for the last several months. That would certainly reflect that people are worried that the financial situation in the U.S. isn't going to get any better -- so they're buying precious metals."

...

Peter Schiff, an economist and president of Euro Pacific Precious Metals, a precious metals dealer in New York, agreed.

"With the Federal Reserve clearly stating that unlimited money creation and dollar debasement are its intended policy goals, it's becoming painfully obvious to more and more investors that precious metals are a better savings alternative than zero-interest bank deposits," said Schiff. "For many of these first-time buyers, silver bullion coins like U.S. Silver Eagles are one of the easiest, most reliable and most cost effective means to get precious metal exposure."

But, he added, if investors can't buy Silver Eagles, they can also buy other coins like Canadian Maple Leaf silver coins, which are minted by the Canadian government and are "just as good."

"When people are buying bullion they're not collecting the coins, they just want to have reliable silver," he said.

The American Eagle Bullion program was launched in 1986 with the sale of gold and silver bullion coins. Platinum was added 11 years later.

The coins are produced at the mint's plant in West Point, N.Y.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/19/13 04:58 PM

Ted Butler: Silver Demand Will End Manipulation

Posted by Investment Rarities on January 17th 2013
http://silverandgoldcoinblog.com/2013/01/17/ted-butler-silver-demand-will-end-manipulation/

Making the case forWhy the silver manipulation must end,” Ted Butler writes that “instead of wondering why the silver manipulation hasn’t ended yet, look at all the accumulating evidence that demand is overcoming supply. Silver is tighter today than it has ever been (except in April 2011). If these signs weren’t present, then there might be some worry about how much longer the artificial low price could persist. But these signs do exist and it’s up to us to recognize them for what they are, namely, confirmation points of what must occur.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/01/13 04:36 PM

Iceland President At Davos: ‘Why Do We Treat Banks Like Holy Churches? It’s Time To Stop The Bailouts And Let Them Go Bankrupt !’

Here's another interview :


A Comment about the interviews :

Let the banks go down says Olafur Grimsson at the World Economic Forum in Davos

by Dr. Virginia Abernathy


Iceland is a small country, under 1 million citizens ... I have been proud of the Icelanders since they let their banks take the consequences – bankruptcy - of their greedy bets on derivatives and other financial “products”.

Recalling the history of a few years ago, the Icelandic government initially said that the innocent Icelandic citizens would bear the burden of the banks’ irresponsible practices. But mass protests led to a rethink.

The Icelandic President called for a referendum on the general public assuming bank debts. The bankers lost.

Citizens voted to let the banks fail. Iceland went through a rough patch but, after four years, is prospering. At least one Icelandic banker has gone to jail.

This all makes one think that Americans should have started protesting when Alan Greenspan arranged for a bailout of Long Term Capital Management in 1999. Or maybe earlier, when Chrysler was bailed out in the 1980s, because nothing is sacred about car companies, either.

Bailing out businesses that make a mistake creates “moral hazard”. For the sake of super-profits, businesses [or households] are encouraged to take risks on the assumption that any losing bets will be covered by the all-suffering tax-payer.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/01/13 04:43 PM

Snakes and Ladders: Investment Banking on the Brink

http://www.spiegel.de/international/busi...s-a-877710.html

"For decades, investment bankers have held the key to untold riches -- but now they're being laid off by the tens of thousands. As the crisis forces the industry to search for a new identity, is it ready to mend its ways?....

The crisis has struck at the heart of the financial center. In 2012, banks began to downsize their investment banking activities. For years, the area had been seen as a playground for those seeking instant riches and guaranteed success, and it provided tens of thousands with sometimes exorbitant incomes.

October 30 would become a horrific day for the financial district after the Swiss bank UBS announced that it was slashing 10,000 jobs in the sector. On one morning alone, the bank's London office let hordes of bankers go. Some were intercepted at the entrance, still carrying their coffee in to-go cups, only to be shown the door a short time later with a piece of paper filled with instructions....

The competition is also doing its utmost to downsize. Morgan Stanley plans to lay off 1,600 employees in the coming weeks, Lloyds is cutting as many as 15,000 jobs worldwide, and Deutsche Bank has just eliminated 1,500 jobs in its investment banking division...."
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/01/13 04:52 PM

The banks in Canada seem to operate under a different set of regulatory rules in relation to banks outside Canada.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/01/13 05:00 PM

This recent reports that half of Singapore's bankers have been fired, left, or put on leave for market manipulation.

Exclusive: Bank probes find manipulation in Singapore's offshore FX market - source
January 28, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Report at reuters.com By Rachel Armstrong

SINGAPORE | Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:40pm EST

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Internal reviews by banks in Singapore have found evidence that traders colluded to manipulate rates in the offshore foreign exchange market, according to a source with knowledge of the inquiries.

The discovery widens a global lending rate scandal into new markets, as fallout from the Libor case puts banks under added scrutiny and spurs both regulators and institutions to reconsider how certain key interest and currency rates are set.

The probes found evidence showing that traders from several banks communicated with each other over electronic messaging about what rates they were going to submit for the local banking association's fixings for non-deliverable foreign exchange forwards (NDFs), aiming to benefit their trading books....

The biggest banks in the Asian NDF markets include UBS, JPMorgan Chase & Co, DBS Group Holdings Ltd and HSBC Holdings Plc....

The Monetary Authority of Singapore told banks in the city state last July to review the way they set interbank lending rates, in the wake of the Libor scandal....

Of the 40 to 50 NDF traders based in Singapore, roughly half had either been put on leave, including those suspended while their activities in the market were under investigation, or left their jobs during the Singapore probes, the source said. It was not clear how many may have been or will be reinstated after the probes' completion.

"A lot of banks are stuck, traders are suspended or have left, so the market is seeing around half its usual volume," the source said...

The action by U.S. authorities last month against UBS for its part in the Libor scandal included a criminal charge against the Swiss bank's Japanese subsidiary for yen Libor manipulation.

The charge sheet by the Commodities Futures Trading Commission against the bank also revealed other markets in Asia where problems emerged.

"Through its internal investigation, UBS identified evidence of similar misconduct involving submissions for at least the Hong Kong Interbank Offered Rate ("HIBOR"), the Singapore Interbank Offered Rate ("SIBOR"), the Singapore Swap Offer Rate ("SOR") and the Australian Bank Bill Swap Rate ("BBSW")," a footnote in the charge sheet read.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/01/13 05:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
The banks in Canada seem to operate under a different set of regulatory rules in relation to banks outside Canada.
Yes this is very true, but I don't know how much and where and how we differ. A Canadian Banker was telling me that over a year ago, but I didn't understand nor do I recall what he was explaining to me in what ways. I'll do some research and see what I can find out.
Posted By: Johann

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/01/13 11:41 PM

I know very little about banking, but I know that managers are moving all around the world, including Canada. We have even been under pressure to take up the Canadian dollar as our local currency. I suppose we could be called next door neighbors?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/02/13 03:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
The banks in Canada seem to operate under a different set of regulatory rules in relation to banks outside Canada.
Daryl, could you explain what you understand Canadian's Banks does differently then other countries?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/02/13 03:17 AM

Originally Posted By: Johann
I know very little about banking, but I know that managers are moving all around the world, including Canada. We have even been under pressure to take up the Canadian dollar as our local currency. I suppose we could be called next door neighbors?
I heard of that from my friend who visited your country last spring. I didn't fully understand what she exactly meant. But what I'm getting from your post that Iceland will use the actual Canadian dollars as your money? What is Iceland using right now as currency? And why not print your own currency/money? Wouldn't that be better?
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/04/13 08:39 PM

Here's an interesting link:

http://religiousliberty.tv/655-trillion-...ldnetdaily.html
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/07/13 04:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl

Yes that is very interesting. Don't know much about economy and how to relate to this 655 Trillion federal obligation. I just want to note that this article summation of another article dated in 2009. What I got from the article it was a gestimate. I'm not sure if he was referring to the derivative market or not.

I have read articles saying that many derivative figures are hidden from the public. Maybe 700 Trillions reported below is what is known to the public. The article below says that only 5 US Banks holds 96% of the 700 trillions in derivatives. So maybe this is what your link was partly refering to in their numbers.

This article, dated March 2012, is a good detailed report with many news links refering to the 700 trillions derivatives. I'm quoting a few selected section of this article.

Financial time bomb: Five megabanks monopolize $700 trillion derivatives market

http://www.examiner.com/article/financia...ivatives-market

...
"Derivatives activity in the U.S. banking system continues to be dominated by a small group of large financial institutions. The five banks with the most derivatives activity hold 96% of all derivatives. Insured commercial banks have more limited legal authorities than do their holding companies.

Note: Graphs in this OCC report (pg. 25 & 26) show that five U.S. banks, JPMorgan Chase, Citibank, BofA, Goldman Sachs, and Morgan Stanley, hold $235 of the $248 trillion above, while their holding companies control an additional $311 of the $326 trillion in derivatives held by holding companies. So these five banks and their holding companies combined hold $546 trillion in derivatives, 95% of the U.S. derivatives market, nearly 80% of the global market,..."

...

"Note: The GDP of the entire world is estimated at around $60 trillion. Banks and financial firms deemed "too big to fail" were bailed out worldwide at taxpayers' expense. But what will happen if losses in the derivatives market skyrocket? No government in the world has the resources to save financial corporations from a collapse in their derivatives trading. "
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/07/13 05:09 PM

Press TV : 'US dollar will collapse in 2013'

Very good discussion between Max Keiser, a journalist and broadcaster in London, Eric Draitser, founder of stopimperialism.com in New York, and Rollin Amore who is an economist and political commentator in Washington, concerning Obama recent tax law, the US fiscal cliff, and current world economy. Basically Amore, representing Washington DC, admits that the law is only a smoke screen(Obama is still giving taxes break to all his friends in the Banks, corporations, and etc) and the issues are not addressed.


Published on Jan 3, 2013

"A prominent economist tells Press TV that the United States so-called fiscal cliff is more like a ‘bottomless pit of debt’ that the country is diving into. He also added that the United States risks collapsing of dollar in 2013. US President Barack Obama has signed into law a bill backed by the Senate that averted the so-called fiscal cliff, the White House says. Obama signed the ‘American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012′ on Wednesday, the White House said in a statement. On January 1, the House of Representatives voted 257 to 167, approving the bill, which consists of raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans, while exempting others who earn less than $450,000 a year. It will also put off 109 billion dollars in budget cuts for two months."

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/10/13 06:19 PM

Public Prosecutor of Rome to Investigate Bilderberg Group on Allegations of Corruption and Conduct of Politicians
Original report in Italian : http://www.abruzzo24ore.tv/news/Marra-denuncia-Mario-Monti-e-il-Bilderberg-a-Roma/110781.htm
Translated : http://www.theglobalistreport.com/bilderberg-group-prosecutor-of-rome-investigation/

An Italian Lawyer from Italy, Alfonso Luigi Marra, has gone to the extraordinary length to request that the Public Prosecutor of Rome investigate the Bilderberg Group.

However, rather than only implicating the Bilderberg Group as Ferdinando Imposimato is trying to do, Lawyer Alfonso Luigi Marra has even gone to the extraordinary length to implicate the Italian Prime Minister, Mario Monti (another Bilderberg Group regular attendee) and has asked the Public Prosecutor of Rome to Investigate the Bilderberg Group.

The following is a translation of the complete transcript of the request made by Alfonso Luigi Marra against the Bilderberg Group and Mario Monti.
Please note, this is an online translation from Italian to English, so some of the English may not be grammatically correct.

Quote:

ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE REPUBLIC OF ROME.

Denunciation of belonging to Mario Monti and other criminal organization and occult called Bilderberg Club (Bilderberg Group).

I, the undersigned Alfonso Luigi Marra, born in San Giovanni in Fiore (CS), and electively domiciled in Naples, Business District G1, Denunzio membership of Mr. Mario Monti, born on 19/12/43, and various other characters listed below, the circle Bilderberg, in relation to two profiles.

The first the occultezza and the second is the tremendous wrongfulness of the purposes of Bilderberg that, even according to witnesses such as the Hon. Ferdinando Imposimato, derived from court papers, are to be seen as a “secret world government seeking to destabilize democracies through the carnage.”

Bilderberg has indeed reacted upon being exposed now in millions of web pages ‘autopubblicandosi’ in 2009 in a ‘forum’ so transparent that illustrate everything (except of course the crime). Things including the States, the time and place of the meetings (now ‘conferences’), actually known for years, why not explicit, but because doggedly revealed by the ‘hounds’ anti-international conspiracy, including the distinguished Daniel Estulin.

Such a ‘doing good’ (Daniel Estulin) to make certain that the next ‘conference’ would open the doors to the world and will be inspired by the purest ideals of the good, the beautiful, the just and the useful, because nothing stops these enemies of hours exposed ‘ humanity, to continue elsewhere conspiracies with which, since 1954, make love with our fortunes.

A ‘secrecy’ lasted more than 50 years because the result of very wide institutional collusion, media, political and judicial. So much so that many sources describe the Bilderberg even as born of hidden longings Globalists environments diverted NATO’s criminal secret society with the highest banking powers.

But a pointless gimmick, to groped to save autopubblicandosi, because the crimes are in the very words of which all’invero singular ‘forum’.

On the one hand reads fact the art. Anselmi 1 of Law (Law no. 17 of 25.02.82): “We consider secret societies, such as those prohibited by art. 18 of the Constitution, those which, even within associations evident, concealing their existence or taking secret purposes and social activities jointly or through the unknown, in whole or in part, and even each other, partners, engage in direct to interfere on the exercise of the functions of constitutional bodies, public administrations also an autonomous, public bodies, including economic, and essential public services of national interest. “

On the other hand, the home of the ‘forum’ Bilderberg – tragicomically – reads: “.. In short, Bilderberg is a small, flexible, informal and non-registered forum in which they can be expressed different points of view and can be intensified mutual understanding. Bilderberg The only activity is its annual Conference.

During these meetings are not collected votes and will not be issued rulings behaviour. Since 1954 were held 59 conferences. For each meeting, the names of the participants as the agenda shall be made public and can be found in the press. “

Lying words, because much more than meet once a year in the horrid activities consist of them, but that implies, in themselves, the illicit nature of Bilderberg, because the composition of the contexts of the characters ‘conferences’ mingle without documentation configures itself with the secret of Law Anselmi.

The configuration because it is – just as forbidden – a mixture of public men not free to attend meetings not private, non-protocol, undocumented segretati, with the owners of the world’s highest concentrations of private interests.

A surreal, unbelievable, illegal mixture of Heads of State, Kings, Queens, Ministers, Presidents of Parliaments (type Barroso), European Commissioners, closed in secret areas with bankers such as David Rockefeller, and others at the highest levels of the ECB, the Fed or the BDI, with the top of the top multinational companies, with journalists from major publications, and in fact with the key people of everything that happens in the world.

Men – just like Monti after the ‘conference’ of St. Moritz on 9/12 June 2011 – sol that sortano muffled by alcoves of the secrets of the rituals inseminatorii bilderberghina impregnation, are kidnapped by Messianic breaths and transferred to the Olympus of all forms of power, like Clinton, Obama (whose government representatives participating in the ‘conference’), Trichet, Ignazio Visco, Romano Prodi, Tony Blair, Mario Draghi, Franco Barnabé, Giulio Tremonti, Marco Tronchetti Provera, Tommaso Padoa Schioppa, Alessandro Profumo, Emma Bonino, Gianni Riotta, Ben Bernanke, Corrado Passera, Walter Veltroni, Sergio Romano, Carlo Rossella, Claudio Martelli and many others.

Politicians, kings, queens, princes, such as Sofia of Greece, Bernhard of the Netherlands, Beatrix of Holland, Charles, King Juan Carlos of Spain, grotesquely mixed in a common delusion of omnipotence with sharks industry, commerce and of global finance, such as Edmond de Rothschild, or our own Giovanni Agnelli, Umberto Agnelli, John Elkan, with representatives of Coca Cola, IBM, Sony, British Petroleum, Shell, Exxon, Pan Am, Mobil, Texas Instruments, ENI, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Philips, Dunlop, HP.

A unique, illegal brotherhood of people who – forget the lessons of history, but full of reversals of power ‘timeless’ moment before being caught up – it is considered above the law, because of being so many, powerful, connected regimes of relationships from year to year more and more have consolidated in the ‘salons’ of the world and in every other place and time that the circumstances require. Men who must inter alia be considered the architects of the crime of crimes: the primary and secondary seignorage.

Men whose “points of view” – those in the 59 conferences that have followed have “intensified mutual understanding” – actually configure global policies of these 59 years, atomic energy and military choices with which we have ruined , the wars to break out, or those to be put down, those governments to promote or to break, crush, or those economies to be fed, those dictators to kill or to be incurred, ethnic groups, nations, peoples, or to exterminate to harass those economically or be promoted, pollution and allow that to size, and so on all made dramatic our daily life.

Crazy things made possible by a lack of the judiciary which is perhaps now the case of remedying, investigating also those judges who themselves are part of or are adjacent to the Bilderberg organizations controlled by it or close to it.

Behaviours, those of Bilderberg, its members and those who support them, which constitute the obvious, blatant violation, to say the least, of the articles of the Criminal Code:-n. 241 (terrorist attack against the integrity, independence or the unity of the state);-n. 283 (terrorist attack against the Constitution of the State);-n. 648 bis (Recycling)-n. 501 (Upward and downward fraudulent prices on the public market or the stock exchanges of commerce);-n. 501 a (speculative maneuvers of goods);-n. 416 (criminal association).

I ask for these reasons, want the Public Prosecutor of Rome launch a broad investigation aimed at info-activities to verify compliance or non-compliance with laws work of the Bilderberg club and its members and in relation to what happened recently that in recent years in ‘conferences’, and is related to continuing to work each during the year and in different ‘theaters’, with particular reference to the legality of the conduct of Mario Monti as a member of Bilderberg, and the possible relevance of the reasons for those who supported his appointment to the Presidency of the Council to its membership of the Bilderberg and / or other secret organizations or in conflict with the public interest.

I ask in particular the assessment of whether there are connections between some politicians denounced by the participation of the Mountains ‘conference’ Bilderberg St. Moritz in June 2011 and his appointment to the Presidency of the Council.

Explicitly ask to be informed in case of request for dismissal pursuant to art. 408 Code of Criminal Procedure.

Alfonso Luigi Marra
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/11/13 03:57 PM

The Queen's finances to be investigated by powerful Westminster committee
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9...-committee.html

"The Public Accounts Committee is expected to launch an investigation into whether the monarch and the Royal Family provide value for money to the taxpayer.

The inquiry, which will look at every aspect of the Queen’s expenditure including the cost of transport, is likely to cause concern in Buckingham Palace because of the PAC’s reputation for grilling civil servants if it deems they have misused public funds.

The Queen’s closest aides can expect a particularly rough ride by MPs about whether the Royal Family is providing value for taxpayers’ money.

The amount of public funds going to the Royal Family soared last year, despite Government cuts.

The investigation follows a change in the law which, for the first time, gives MPs oversight of royal finances.

The PAC, chaired by the former Labour minister Margaret Hodge, will decide on the scope of any inquiry after the National Audit Office is granted access to the Queen’s finances next month, according to a report in the Independent.

Auditors will produce a report on their findings which will then be scrutinised by the committee who will decide whether to call palace officials to give evidence.

Committee sources indicated that this was likely to happen.

“Margaret wants to do it – but obviously it’s got to be a decision of the whole committee,” a source told the newspaper.

“I’m all in favour of it,” said Austin Mitchell, a Labour MP who sits on the committee. “It’s not intrusive. It is about ensuring that the public are getting good value for money.

“At the moment there is no accountability for spending what is a considerable fortune.”

Among the areas the committee is expected to examine are transport costs including the Royal Train and the Royal Flight, as well as money spent on official entertaining and the upkeep of palaces.

Money given to junior royals to support their work backing up the Queen will also be scrutinised while the committee may also want to examine whether Buckingham Palace is doing enough to raise money itself by selling the royal brand.

For example while Buckingham Palace now opens to paying visitors during the summer some have argued it should be open all year round.

Two of the Queen’s other castles, Balmoral and Sandringham, have no public access at all – despite their multimillion-pound maintenance costs.

The change has come about after George Osborne scrapped the Civil List – an annual handout to the Royal Family that has had to be approved by Parliament since 1760 – in favour of paying the Monarch 15 per cent of the income from the Crown Estates as a new “Sovereign Grant”.

Crown Estate assets include Regent Street in London, Ascot racecourse and Windsor Great Park, 265,000 acres of farmland, as well as ownership of our national seabed stretching out 12 nautical miles around Britain.

The Estate’s profits have been paid to the Treasury and taxpayers since 1760, after George III handed the Crown’s property to the state in return for an annual fee to support his duties.

In April Buckingham Palace will receive £36.1m to fund the Queen’s official duties, a 16 per cent increase on the £31m paid by taxpayers last year. "
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/11/13 04:13 PM

In the Money, Federal Reserve, World Banks Foreclosed On
http://guardianlv.com/2013/01/in-the-money-federal-reserve-world-banks-foreclosed-on/

"The news has been broke, the world banks have been legally and officially foreclosed on. Yes, reread what you have just read, the world banks have been legally foreclosed on. The Federal Reserve, The Hague, The World Bank,The United Nations, The IMF, the BIS ( Bank of International Settlements), and many others are included.

Now this news hasn’t hit mainstream media, for obvious reasons. Mass hysteria, media agreements with governments, and economic implications. A group called “The One People’s Public Trust” released an “announcement”, a document stating they had a person on the inside gathering information for them. There is a passage that reads, ” The people, all people equally on earth have an individual, duly verified sum certain of 5 billion, in lawful money of the United States of America gold and silver. Over 3 quintillion, 500 quadrillion, (which, by the way is a 3 and a 5 followed by 17 zeros) just and duly verified equity debt against the debtors. There is an additionally duly verified sum of 5 billion in lawful money of the United States of America, gold and silver, for each of those people damaged by the actions and systems of the debtors, over 3 quadrillion lawful money of the United States of America, gold and silver, in duly verified debt of damages against the debtors.”

What does this mean exactly? Well that is still up in the air. Could each human receive a giant lump sum of money? Will the money just go into a giant pool to which we can all borrow against it, ending Fiscal Cliff talks, and the failing economies world-wide? Here is the most likely outcome to this, nothing will happen. It will be covered up like everything else. I like to call it the Nikola Tesla effect. If you don’t know who Tesla is he invented the AC (alternation current) induction motor. In easier terms a never ending source of electricity, which doesn’t need to travel through wires. Why haven’t you heard of him you ask? J.P. Morgan and Thomas Edison met with him and Tesla’s invention wouldn’t bring in the revenue Edison’s ideas would. Again cash over mind won even over 100 years ago.

If we were to be given this large sum of money how would we react? Would we be foolish and spend it all on lavish houses and Lambo’s? Would we help with cancer research, AIDS research? Would we all decide to help the third world countries of this planet and bring them up to date? There is a danger in people acquiring a large amount of money they don’t work for. They spend foolishly, and are broke again before they know it. Did you know 70% of all lottery winners squander away their winnings within a few years.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the coming weeks and months. Will this news hit mainstream media? Where will all this money go? How will people react to whatever decision is made on the money? Who will be the ones making the decisions on what goes on with the money? So, many questions, so much room for cover-up. Will the truth come out, or like so many other things will the governments and people in charge silence those that try to spread the truth? Yet, most importantly, what color Lambo are you getting, mine will be bright yellow. By Steve Kish

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My Comments: I don't know if the above is legit. I've been hearing about the OPPT(One People’s Public Trust) work since December. On their website they have all kinds of legal documents and processes claimed to have happened, however all of these is over my head. Here's the two main links to their work :
OPPT Trustee web site: http://www.peoplestrust1776.org/

UCC Filing Search site: https://gov.propertyinfo.com/DC-Washington/#

I just wanted to post it for your information in case this is legit. I do know that all the Central Banks and governments of the western world has long been bankrupted. They won't be standing much longer.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/11/13 07:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
As we are now in 2013, whatever happened to this new global economic restructuring that was supposed to have taken place in 2012 per the topic name of this thread?
Of course there's always the issue of the contractor telling the homeowner he will be there by the end of the week. And if not the end of the week, at least the first of next week. And the same story is given the next week. But, eventually, it does get done.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/15/13 06:26 PM

Another Top Banker arrested

Monte Paschi former finance chief held in Italy

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/14/us-montepaschi-arrest-idUSBRE91D0FG20130214
By Silvia Ognibene Manuela D'Alessandro

SIENA/MILAN | Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:51am EST

SIENA/MILAN (Reuters) - Italian police arrested on Thursday the former head of Monte dei Paschi's finance department, who is at the center of a probe into alleged fraud and bribery at Italy's third largest bank, prosecutors said.
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/27/13 11:58 PM

Babylon(today's too big to fail tyranical system) is getting judged more and more from all directions. Only the Lord can make things happen as such. I hear that the month of March is going to be hot. Watch the news especially on wall street.

Greek Former Mayor Gets Life for Embezzlement

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/28/world/...ement.html?_r=0

ATHENS — "The former mayor of Greece’s second city, Salonika, and two of his top aides were sentenced to life in jail on Wednesday after being found guilty of embezzling almost 18 million euros, or $23.5 million, in state funds — a rare conviction in a case involving the political corruption that has contributed to the country’s dysfunction and economic decline.

A court in Salonika, a northern port city also known as Thessaloniki, found that the local authorities had set up an “embezzlement machine” and that Vassilis Papageorgopoulos, a prominent conservative who served two terms as mayor from 1999 to 2010, had been “aware of the whole plan but had stayed on the sidelines, feigning ignorance.” The scheme was conceived by Michalis Lemousias, a general secretary of the city administration, who operated with Panagiotis Saxonis, the city’s treasurer, the court found.

Two other former treasury officials were given terms of 15 and 10 years, and 13 other former employees were acquitted after a five-month trial that began after an estimated shortfall of $68 million was found in the city’s coffers. The court said there was proof that of that sum, $23.5 million had been swindled. In trial testimony last month, Mr. Saxonis admitted that the cash transactions had taken place in his office in “flimsy carrier bags” and said he had been taking orders from his superiors.

Mr. Papageorgopoulos, 65, is a prominent member of the conservative New Democracy party, which leads Greece’s current fragile coalition government. He insisted that he had had nothing to do with the embezzlement, and he and his former aides are expected to appeal. “I am sure that certain people will die feeling remorse,” he said after hearing the verdict, prompting the presiding judge to remark, “At any rate, that won’t be us.”

Mr. Papageorgopoulos, a former sprinter and medical student nicknamed the Flying Doctor, was succeeded as mayor in December 2010 by Yiannis Boutaris, a left-leaning winemaker who has shaken up Salonika with a drive for reform. On coming to power, Mr. Boutaris accused his predecessor of providing inaccurate financial figures.

The convictions on Wednesday prompted a frenzied response in the media and on blogs, where many hailed the unusually severe sentences.

Few politicians have faced prosecution for graft and other financial crimes in Greece, and convictions are extremely rare. Prime Minister Antonis Samaras’s governing coalition has pledged to crack down on the deep-rooted corruption among the political and business elite that has angered a public reeling from nearly three years of austerity.

In September, the Greek authorities began investigating the bank accounts of more than 30 Greek politicians to determine whether they should be charged with tax evasion and other financial crimes. That inquiry has yet to yield any prosecutions, but last month, Greek lawmakers began an inquiry into George Papaconstantinou, a former Socialist finance minister, over his handling of a list of wealthy Greeks with Swiss bank accounts, a potential source of tax revenue that was never used by the authorities. That investigation began after prosecutors said the names of three of the former minister’s relatives had been removed from the list."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/01/13 08:35 PM

Vitter and Brown Oppose Too Big To Fail . . . too little, too late?
Senater Sherrod Brown speech to the US President that we need to emmediatly fix the wall street Too Big to Fail Banking system problem that is destroying the country. Very good speech with lots of data and quotes from leading people.



Here's Sen. David Vitter who also delivered a speech opposing the Too Big to Fail Banking System.



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Also Elizabeth Warren has scared the Wall Street Bankers and its regulators this past few weeks ...

Elizabeth Warren Scares Bankers
"his video of Senator Elizabeth Warren putting the hurt on a bunch of regulators in her first hearing on the Senate Banking Committee is pretty amusing. I’m a big fan of the clip that starts at about 2:30, when Warren asks Tom Curry, who heads a little regulatory agency called the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, why the OCC hasn’t taken more Wall Street banks to trial, rather than settling out of court and getting them to pay a penalty when they break the law, and Curry hems and haws and can’t really answer, so he basically goes full Milton from Office Space and then just kind of trails off and sulks.


?Even though Wall Street bankers weren’t the target of Warren’s interrogation yesterday – the regulators who oversee them were – the financial industry is apparently freaking out about the hearing, on the theory that it augurs a tough road for them ahead in dealing with Warren as a senator. Ben White got some quotes from scared financial industry executives who called her performance “shameless grandstanding” and accused her of competing with Ted Cruz for the title of “most extreme fringe freshman senator.”

Which raises the question: Are these people kidding?

Elizabeth Warren did not end up in the Senate despite taking a hard-line approach to Wall Street; she was elected almost entirely because of it. I’d wager that people outside Massachusetts who donated money to Warren’s campaign or otherwise supported her run for office can’t tell you anything about her political platform except that she is tough on Wall Street.

Sure, there was always the possibility that she would mellow out once elected. Keep her head down, be a workhorse instead of a show pony, and all of that. But that was always wishful thinking from the financial industry and its lobbyists. As any web editor with access to traffic stats could tell you, people love when Warren squares off on Wall Street. It delights them, the sight of a bespectacled middle-aged professor absolutely hammering suit-clad financiers, refusing to slip into the numbing jargon of the industry (note, in the video, how she translates Tom Curry’s “enforcement actions” back into “settlements,” a concept more normal people can immediately understand), and generally being possessed of enough specific industry knowledge that she is impossible to steamroll with technicalities.

Yes, Warren is a populist. Yes, some of her views seem reflexive and could be harmful if implemented. (Charging banks with lots of crimes, for example, would likely have the unintended consumer-unfriendly result of putting a lot of them out of business.) And yes, she sometimes misfires – aiming her wrath at, say, a panel of regulators who can only bring civil suits in the first place, rather than officials in the Justice Department likeLanny Breuer, who could actually have pressed criminal charges against banks but chose not to.

But she is also talking to Wall Street in a way it’s not used to hearing from elected officials, and it’s making her a rising star in the Democratic Party. Bankers should probably stop griping, and start getting used to it.


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SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN (D-MA) GRILLS CHAIRMAN OF THE FED BEN BERNANKE


Published on Feb 26, 2013

Clipped from:
Monetary Policy and the Economy
Feb 26, 2013
From CSPAN.org. Feb 26, 2013. Ben Bernanke testified on the U.S. economic outlook for the year and the future of economic growth. In his remarks he defended the U.S. central bank’s bond-buying stimulus, urged lawmakers to avoid sharp spending cuts set to go into effect by the end of the week, and spoke about successful efforts to curb inflation to stimulate the economy. Clip includes Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) Questioning Chairman of the Federal Reserve, Ben Bernanke, over “Too Big To Fail Banks”.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/07/13 10:00 PM

Eric Holder Admits Some Banks Are Just Too Big To Prosecute
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/06/eric-holder-banks-too-big_n_2821741.html

Originally Posted By: huffingtonpost
When the Attorney General of the United States admits some banks are simply too big to prosecute, it might be time to admit we have a problem -- and that goes for both the financial and justice systems.

Eric Holder made this rather startling confession in testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, The Hill reports. It could be a key moment in the debate over whether to do something about the size and complexity of our biggest banks, which have only gotten bigger and more systemically important since the financial crisis.

"I am concerned that the size of some of these institutions becomes so large that it does become difficult for us to prosecute them when we are hit with indications that if you do prosecute, if you do bring a criminal charge, it will have a negative impact on the national economy, perhaps even the world economy," Holder said, according to The Hill. "And I think that is a function of the fact that some of these institutions have become too large."

Holder's comments don't come as a total surprise. His underlings had already made similar confessions to The New York Times last year, after they declined to prosecute HSBC for flagrant, years-long violations of money-laundering laws, out of fear that doing so would hurt the global economy. Lanny Breuer, formerly in charge of doling out the Justice Department's wrist slaps to banks, told Frontline as much in the documentary "The Untouchables," which aired in January.

Some observers have defended the Justice Department, suggesting that prosecuting law-breaking banks would amount to a death penalty that could upset the financial system and trigger another recession -- although nobody really knows if it would do any such thing. But by not prosecuting law-breaking banks, and confessing to its terror of prosecuting those banks, the Justice Department has waved a big checkered flag to the biggest banks to go ahead and break all of the laws they want.

Holder's confession comes after several weeks of criticism from lawmakers about the Justice Department's failure to prosecute banks not only for potentially hard-to-prove cases involving the financial crisis, but also for cases in which proof wasn't as hard to find, as in HSBC's case.

It is significant that Holder's confession -- cry for help, really -- comes at the one place that could possibly help, the U.S. Congress. So now you have the Obama administration joining a growing, bipartisan group of lawmakers speaking out about the problem of banks being too big to fail and/or jail. Sens. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) and David Vitter (R-La.) last week announced they were working together on bipartisan legislation to address it.

That doesn't mean you should hold your breath for anything to be done about it right away, or ever. It is far easier to talk about breaking up the big banks than to do it, particularly given that they will lobby hard against it every step of the way. But the tide of public opinion is turning against them a little more every day.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/16/13 04:41 PM

Senate Banking Committee Hearing - Bank Money Laundering .



Senator Elizabeth Warren’s Q&A at the March 7, 2013 Banking Committee hearing entitled “Patterns of Abuse: Assessing Bank Secrecy Act Compliance and Enforcement.” Witnesses were: David Cohen, Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence, United States Department of the Treasury; Thomas Curry, Comptroller, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency; and Jerome H. Powell, Governor, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/16/13 04:51 PM

Live-Blogging Senate Hearing Tomorrow, When J.P. Morgan Chase Will Be Torn a New One

Posted March 14
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blo...4#ixzz2Ni5GuUND

"Beginning at 9:30 a.m. tomorrow, I'm going to be live-blogging a hearing held by Senator Carl Levin's Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations – the best crew of high-end detectives this side of The Wire, in my opinion – who will be grilling J.P. Morgan Chase executives and high-ranking federal regulators in a get-together entitled, "J.P. Morgan Chase "Whale" Trades: A Case History Of Derivatives Risks And Abuses." This follows this afternoon's release of a brutal 301-page report commissioned by Levin and Republican John McCain by the same name.

The Subcommittee investigators, largely the same crew who unraveled financial scandals surrounding infamous Goldman Sachs trades like Abacus and Timberwolf, and also took on HSBC's trans-global money-laundering activities in an extraordinarily detailed report issued last summer, have now taken aim at the heart of the Too-Big-To-Fail issue through its examination of the much-publicized catastrophic derivative trades made by its amusingly-nicknamed "London Whale" trader, Bruno Iksil, last year.

Most ordinary people dimly remember the London Whale episode now, and even at the time struggled to understand even the vaguest contours of the story while mainstream reporters (including people like myself) were trying with all their might to make sense of it from afar. What most people got out of that story was that J.P. Morgan Chase somehow lost buttloads of money through some sort of impossibly complex derivative trade – billions, though nobody could ever settle on an exact number – and that this was somehow a very bad thing that required the attention of the federal government, although even that part of it was a bit of a mystery to most ordinary people.

Gangster Bankers: Too Big to Jail

Why should we care if a private bank, or more to the point a private banker like Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, loses a few billion here and there? What business is it of ours? And why did we have to have congressional hearings about it last year? The whole thing certainly seemed a big mystery to Dimon himself, who dragged himself to Washington and spent the entire time rolling his eyes and snorting at Senators' questions, clearly put out that he even had to be there.

This new report by the Permanent Subcommittee answers the question of why the public needed to be involved in that episode. What the report describes is an epic breakdown in the supervision of so-called "Too Big to Fail" banks. The report confirms everyone's worst fears about what goes on behind closed doors at such companies, in the various financial sausage-factories that comprise their profit-making operations.

If the information in the report is correct, Chase followed the behavioral model of every corrupt/failing hedge fund this side of Bernie Madoff and Sam Israel, only it did it on a much more enormous scale and did it with federally-insured deposits. The fund used (in part) federally-insured money to create, in essence, a kind of super high-risk hedge fund that gambled on credit derivatives, and just like Sam Israel did with his Bayou fund, when it got in trouble, it resorted to fudging its numbers in order to disguise the fact that it was losing money hand over fist.

Chase for years hid the very existence of this operation from banking regulators and lied about the purpose of the fund (saying it was purely a hedging operation when it stopped being a hedge and instead became a wild directional gamble), and it also changed the way it calculated the fund's value once it started to lose hundreds of millions of dollars. Even worse, the bank's own internal auditors signed off on the phoney-baloney accounting of this Synthetic Credit Portfolio (SCP), at one point allowing it to claim $719 million in losses when the real number was closer to $1.2 billion.

How did they do this? In the years leading up to January of 2012, Chase used a standard, plain-vanilla method to price the derivative instruments in its portfolio. The method was known as "mid-market pricing": if on any given day you had a range of offers for a certain instrument – the "bid-ask" range – "mid-market pricing" just meant splitting the difference and calling the value the numerical middle in that range.

But in the beginning of 2012, Chase started to lose lots of money on the derivatives in its SCP, and just decided to change its valuations, that they weren't in the business of doing "mids" anymore. One executive thought the "market was irrational." As the Subcommittee concluded:

Quote:
By the end of January, the CIO had stopped valuing two sets of credit index instruments on the SCP's books, the CDX IG9 7-year and the CDX IG9 10-year, near the midpoint price and had substituted instead noticeably more favorable prices.

If you can fight through the jargon, what this basically means is that Chase decided to go into the fiction business and invent a new way to value its crazy-ass derivative bets, using, among other things, a computerized model the company designed itself called "P&L predict" which subjectively calculated the value of the entire fund toward the end of every business day.

If this all sounds familiar, it's because it's the same story we've heard over and over again in the financial-scandal era, from Enron to WorldCom to Lehman Brothers – when the going gets tough, and huge companies start to lose money, they change their own accounting methodologies to hide their screw-ups, passing the buck over and over again until the mess explodes into the public's lap. The difference is that Chase is a much bigger and more dangerous company to be engaging in this kind of behavior.

An even scarier section of the report regards the reaction of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, or OCC, the primary government regulator of Chase. The report exposes two huge problems here. One, Chase consistently hid crucial information from the OCC, including the sort of massive increases in risk the OCC was created precisely to monitor. Two, even when the bank didn't hide stuff, the OCC was either too slow or too disinterested to take notice of potential problems. From the report:

During 2011, for example, the notional size of the SCP grew tenfold from about $4 billion to $51 billion, but the bank never informed the OCC of the increase. At the same time, the bank did file risk reports

Quote:
with the OCC disclosing that the CIO repeatedly breached the its stress limits in the first half of 2011, triggering them eight times, on occasion for weeks at a stretch, but the OCC failed to follow up with the bank.
In other words, Chase added nearly $50 billion in risk and failed to mention the fact to the OCC – but the OCC also failed to bat an eyelid when Chase breached its stress limits eight times in a space of six months, often for weeks at a time. Do you feel safer now?

This episode proves what everyone already implicitly understands about these gigantic banking institutions: that their accounting is often little more than a monstrous black box within which any sort of mischief can and probably is being hidden from shareholders, counterparties, and the public, which has a direct interest in the health of these banks because (a) their enormous size makes them systemically important, i.e. we'd all be screwed if any of them collapsed, and (b) they are the supposedly cautious and conservative guardians of billions in federally-insured deposits.

The Senate investigators highlighted a frightening metaphor to explain what they found out about Chase's response to its burgeoning accounting disaster last winter and spring:

The head of the CIO's London office, Achilles Macris, once compared managing the Synthetic Credit Portfolio, with its massive, complex, moving parts, to flying an airplane. The OCC Examiner-in-Charge at JPMorgan Chase told the Subcommittee that if the Synthetic Credit Portfolio were an airplane, then the risk metrics were the flight instruments. In the first quarter of 2012, those flight instruments began flashing red and sounding alarms, but rather than change course, JPMorgan Chase personnel disregarded, discounted, or questioned the accuracy of the instruments instead.

Investigators took note of this and then, sensibly, wondered if Chase was the only bank ignoring all those flashy lights:

The bank's actions not only exposed the many risk management deficiencies at JPMorgan Chase, but also raise systemic concerns about how many other financial institutions may be disregarding risk indicators and manipulating models to artificially lower risk results and capital requirements.

Anyway, officials from Chase and the OCC are being dragged in tomorrow to answer some heavy questions about all of this. Expect a lot of double-talk, sweaty foreheads, pompous "You just don't understand because you don't make enough money" excuses, and other sordid behaviors. Tune in here for updates.

In the meantime, kudos to Senator Levin and to his Republican partner in this investigation, John McCain, for taking on this topic. Increasingly, key voices in the upper chamber like these two, plus Ohio's Sherrod Brown, Iowa's Chuck Grassley, Oregon's Jeff Merkley, Vermont's Bernie Sanders and others are starting to act genuinely worried about the Too Big to Fail issue. Their determination to keep it in the public eye is, to me, a signal that a consensus is forming behind the scenes on the Hill."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/16/13 04:56 PM

Bank of America: Too Crooked to Fail
The bank has defrauded everyone from investors and insurers to homeowners and the unemployed. So why does the government keep bailing it out?

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/bank-of-america-too-crooked-to-fail-20120314

By Matt Taibbi
March 14, 2012 10:55 AM ET

At least Bank of America got its name right. The ultimate Too Big to Fail bank really is America, a hypergluttonous ward of the state whose limitless fraud and criminal conspiracies we'll all be paying for until the end of time. Did you hear about the plot to rig global interest rates? The $137 million fine for bilking needy schools and cities? The ingenious plan to suck multiple fees out of the unemployment checks of jobless workers? Take your eyes off them for 10 seconds and guaranteed, they'll be into some [censored] again: This bank is like the world's worst-behaved teenager, taking your car and running over kittens and fire hydrants on the way to Vegas for the weekend, maxing out your credit cards in the three days you spend at your aunt's funeral. They're out of control, yet they'll never do time or go out of business, because the government remains creepily committed to their survival, like overindulgent parents who refuse to believe their 40-year-old live-at-home son could possibly be responsible for those dead hookers in the backyard.

It's been four years since the government, in the name of preventing a depression, saved this megabank from ruin by pumping $45 billion of taxpayer money into its arm. Since then, the Obama administration has looked the other way as the bank committed an astonishing variety of crimes – some elaborate and brilliant in their conception, some so crude that they'd be beneath your average street thug. Bank of America has systematically ripped off almost everyone with whom it has a significant business relationship, cheating investors, insurers, depositors, homeowners, shareholders, pensioners and taxpayers. It brought tens of thousands of Americans to foreclosure court using bogus, "robo-signed" evidence – a type of mass perjury that it helped pioneer. It hawked worthless mortgages to dozens of unions and state pension funds, draining them of hundreds of millions in value. And when it wasn't ripping off workers and pensioners, it was helping to push insurance giants like AMBAC into bankruptcy by fraudulently inducing them to spend hundreds of millions insuring those same worthless mortgages.

But despite being the very definition of an unaccountable corporate villain, Bank of America is now bigger and more dangerous than ever. It controls more than 12 percent of America's bank deposits (skirting a federal law designed to prohibit any firm from controlling more than 10 percent), as well as 17 percent of all American home mortgages. By looking the other way and rewarding the bank's bad behavior with a massive government bailout, we actually allowed a huge financial company to not just grow so big that its collapse would imperil the whole economy, but to get away with any and all crimes it might commit. Too Big to Fail is one thing; it's also far too corrupt to survive.

All the government bailouts succeeded in doing was to make the bank even more prone to catastrophic failure – and now that catastrophe might finally be at hand. Bank of America's share price has plunged into the single digits, and the bank faces battles in courtrooms all over America to avoid paying back the hundreds of billions it stole from everyone in sight. Its credit rating, already downgraded to a few rungs above junk status, could plummet with the next bad analyst report, causing a frenzied rush to the exits by creditors, investors and stockholders – an institutional run on the bank.

They're in deep trouble, but they won't die, because our current president, like the last one, apparently believes it's better to project a false image of financial soundness than to allow one of our oligarchic banks to collapse under the weight of its own corruption. Last year, the Federal Reserve allowed Bank of America to move a huge portfolio of dangerous bets into a side of the company that happens to be FDIC-insured, putting all of us on the hook for as much as $55 trillion in irresponsible gambles. Then, in February, the Justice Department's so-called foreclosure settlement, which will supposedly provide $26 billion in relief for ripped-off homeowners, actually rewarded the bank with a legal waiver that will allow it to escape untold billions in lawsuits. And this month the Fed will release the results of its annual stress test, in which the bank will once again be permitted to perpetuate its fiction of solvency by grossly overrating the mountains of toxic loans on its books. At this point, the rescue effort is so sweeping and elaborate that it goes far beyond simply gouging the tax dollars of millions of struggling families, many of whom have already been ripped off by the bank – it's making the government, and by extension all of us, full-blown accomplices to the fraud.

Anyone who wants to know what the Occupy Wall Street protests are all about need only look at the way Bank of America does business. It comes down to this: These guys are some of the very biggest assholes on Earth. They lie, cheat and steal as reflexively as addicts, they laugh at people who are suffering and don't have money, they pay themselves huge salaries with money stolen from old people and taxpayers – and on top of it all, they completely suck at banking. And yet the state won't let them go out of business, no matter how much they deserve it, and it won't slap them in jail, no matter what crimes they commit. That makes them not bankers or capitalists, but a class of person that was never supposed to exist in America: royalty.

Self-appointed royalty, it's true – but just as dumb and inbred as the real thing, and every bit as expensive to support. Like all royals, they reached their position in society by being relentlessly dedicated to the cause of Bigness, Unaccountability and the Worthlessness of Others. And just like royals, they spend most of their lives getting deeper in debt, and laughing every year when our taxes go to covering their whist markers. Two and a half centuries after we kicked out the British, it's really come to this?

Bank of America started out in San Francisco in 1904 as an emblem of American capitalism. Founded by a first-generation Italian-American named Amadeo Giannini – it was even originally called the Bank of Italy – the bank set out to serve immigrants denied credit by other banks, and it was instrumental in helping to rebuild the city after the devastating earthquake of 1906.

But like many of the truly bad ideas in history, the present-day version of Bank of America was the product of a testosterone overdose. The concept of an overmassive, acquiring-everything-in-sight, bicoastal megabank was hatched in the terminal inferiority complex of a greed-sick asshole – actually two greed-sick assholes, both of them CEOs of Southern regional banks, who launched a cartoonish arms race of bank acquisitions that would ultimately turn the American business world upside down.


related article : Secrets and Lies of the Bailouts
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/17/13 01:51 AM

Greenspan Discusses the End of the Fed ... What Comes Next?

By Anthony Wile

An interesting article in Forbes entitled "If Alan Greenspan Wants To 'End The Fed', Times Must Be Changing," informs us that the predictions we made long ago about the Federal Reserve are coming true. The author of the article is Nathan Lewis, an economist, former strategist for institutional investors and author of a best-selling book Gold, the Once and Future Money.

Our predictions regarding the Fed were first published in May 2009, and were related to a congressional hearing that showed Fed representatives to be woefully unprepared. This was the first inkling we had that the institution itself was in perhaps terminal trouble. Here's what we wrote at the time in an article entited, "Beginning of the End? Fed Cannot Account for $9 Trillion"...

We saw the interview with Elizabeth Coleman on TV and then again and again and again on youtube.com. It is entitled "Is Anyone Minding the Store at the Federal Reserve?" and it is one of the single most astonishing moments (or minutes) ever manifested or preserved in this already-amazing digital era. A century ago, when the powers-that-be pushed through the act that set up the American Federal Reserve – which basically kicked off the central banking era in America and abroad – the kind of technological ubiquity offered by the Internet would certainly have been seen as a major and alarming challenge. Well, it is.

The Grayson/Coleman confrontation has to be seen to be believed, and even then it may not seem quite believable. How could the Fed, in all its monied majesty, offer up someone so unprepared to answer the questions of a single quiet and persevering congressman? Grayson is a liberal, socialist-oriented legislator – a good government type who is fast making a reputation for taking on government corruption. He is pro-regulation but has not been shy about confronting high profile institutions. He may not want to shut down the Federal Reserve but he certainly wants to make it operate under additional scrutiny. And he makes it clear he believes the Fed needs it. And now Coleman knows it.



... read more : http://www.thedailybell.com/28836/Anthon...What-Comes-Next
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/17/13 10:24 PM

The Cyprus bailout includes bank robbery
March 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM
by Stephen Jones

"We knew for many months that Cyprus (like Greece) was in big economic trouble and would soon be in need of a bailout or a Jubilee. It seems that they have chosen the bailout route. Today the politicians decided to tax the people's savings accounts. Those who have savings of $100,000 or more will pay 9.9% tax. Those who have less will pay only 6.7%.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/53818?utm_source=CFP+Mailout&utm_campaign=f74a21fcba-Call_to_Champions&utm_med
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The bottom line of the Cyprus story is that politicians are forcing a new 10 billion euro bailout—to be paid directly from the bank accounts of ordinary people.

The people of Cyprus, most of whom never saw this coming, never had a chance. Without social media they would not have known their accounts were frozen as of today.

This new tactic, approved by the IMF, sets a precedent for any and all countries that may ask for a bailout. Up to now, countries have been known to take retirement funds--or force those funds to "buy" government bonds, which just replaces those funds with IOU's that may never be repaid. That is what our own government has been doing. But to impose a direct tax on savings is something new. Most of those savings accounts in Cyprus are owned by people who have already paid high taxes. Their savings accounts are what was left over after paying tax. So in effect, the government has raised taxes retroactively.

Banks are closed, and Monday is a holiday in Cyprus. People can't get their money out of the banks, except in a very limited way, where they might find an ATM machine.

If anyone thought that people didn't trust banks before, the level of mistrust has just become universal. It is likely that this action will cause bank runs next week in Cyprus, and then the whole banking system there will be in trouble.

This will also cause people in every other country to look more closely at their own bank, especially in countries that are in financial trouble, such as France and Spain. Yes, America, too, although we have not yet reached the critical point. Those who think long-term will start making changes necessary to protect their money from government confiscation.

Jim Sinclair has commented on the Cyprus situation, showing how Russia could react.


http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/3/16_Sinclair_-_One_Of_The_Most_Important_Events_In_History_%26_Gold.html

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"The wire reports on the Cyprus situation are working overtime to try to make the case that 80% of the deposits belong to the people of Cyprus, and only 20% of the deposits belong to the Russians. That’s absolutely false. After 1985, when the ‘Robber Barrons’ of Russia took over the general economics of Russia, that was the transformation from the KGB to private business. The primary place for exported Russian funds was Cyprus.

Now, there is one leader in the world that would be very dangerous to challenge and that is Putin of Russia...

“What’s just happened is the IMF has backed up, lauded, supported, and publicized, as if it were a victory, the taking of 10% of what really turns out to be 80% of Russian ‘black money.’ Russian ‘black money’ is KGB money, now in business. The leader of Russia (Putin) was a former KGB official. Whose money do you think they have taken? This is the biggest mistake the IMF could possibly have ever made.”

Sinclair makes the case for a rise in gold prices if Russia decides to punish the West for its theft of their funds in Cyprus.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/23/13 11:48 AM

Much news came out regarding Cyprus all week. The Banks remained closed as they know the people will withdraw all their money if they do reopen. This will result in a banking collapse in Cyprus.

Here's Stephen Jones latest comment on this:

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Will panic begin Monday or Tuesday?

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...day-or-tuesday/

March 22, 2013 at 9:45 PM
The IMF's theft of Russian money seems to be getting a strong reaction, if the report (below) is true. Russia appears to be taking the IMF action personally as a declaration of financial war against them. This crisis has suddenly uncovered the fact that Cyprus is the financial capital of that part of the world, as its banking assets are 100 times larger than Cyprus' entire Gross National Product. Cyprus is like the Cayman Islands in the Caribbean, or Dubai in the Middle East, or Singapore in the Far East.

Russia has done most of its international trade through Cyprus, and now the banks are closed while the government figures out if it wants to proceed with the grand theft on behalf of the IMF and Western banks. It looks like the trade wars have now broken out in an all-out banking war. Russia got caught in the middle, because it looks both East and West. This theft will certainly push them to the East, further reducing the influence and power of Mystery Babylon in the West.

The financial cold war has just turned hot. Russia will now do all they can to punish Europe financially, even as the Cypriots punish their banks and government for stealing their funds. The people of Cyprus have tremendous power right now, believe it or not. They have the power to collapse their own banks by removing their money or by refusing to deposit any cash in those banks. I see one of two scenarios: either the banks will never reopen, or, when they do reopen, the people will remove all their cash and destroy the banks that have robbed them. Either way, God has made His move on March 18, and said, "Check Mate."

We can now be thankful that our government has a Plunge Protection Team propping up the stock market. They are postponing the collapse of the big banks here so that we have some time to prepare for it. In other words, the market manipulators are now our best friends, ironically enough. Yet we seem to be near the same kind of crisis as in October of 2006...I said then that if anyone had money in the stock market, they should consider other options within the coming year (to the end of 2007).

That was then. Now is now. ... We might see some turmoil before the Father intervenes and provides the means to do the work ahead. At some point this crisis is probably going to hit the stock markets, which have reached new highs this month.



http://investmentwatchblog.com/russian-w...ns-immediately/

Originally Posted By: from link above
Russian Warning: Get All Your Money Out Of Western Banking And Financial Institutions “Immediately”!

President Putin has sent a memo to ALL embassy’s world wide today advising both Russian citizens and companies to remove deposits out of ALL Westearn banks immediately or risk losing your wealth....

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My Comments : If there is a major panic Monday or Tuesday, just like Nigel Farage warns that it will be a domino effect that will first extend to Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, etc... and collapse the Eurozone. Then it will hit the US. In the past renown economist had said, that a Eurozone collapse would take 2 weeks to hit the US. Don't know if it will then take a week after to hit Canada. Whatever will happen it will be in the Lord's timing.

So this could be the last chance to move your savings or paper assets to something that will retain its value. I do believe just withdrawing your cash is also a good step and it will retain its value for some time after a collapse. Like Nigel says, just keep enough in the bank to pay your bills.

If anyone wants to buy precious metals and never have done this before, you can contact me and I'll send you links and info. Actually I can also provide it soon here in this discussion if it's ok with Daryl that I do so. Actually that would be more convenient for all of us as you would maintain your privacy.
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/24/13 04:49 AM

Elle,

I will need to discuss this with the Admin Teams members first about this.
Originally Posted By: Elle
If anyone wants to buy precious metals and never have done this before, you can contact me and I'll send you links and info. Actually I can also provide it soon here in this discussion if it's ok with Daryl that I do so. Actually that would be more convenient for all of us as you would maintain your privacy.
Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/24/13 05:07 AM

What good will money be in an extended crisis? Read Genesis 47.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/24/13 12:56 PM

Originally Posted By: APL
What good will money be in an extended crisis? Read Genesis 47.
? Are you referring to a famine into all the land and Egypt provided food? That is not the prophecy type we are facing today, with the coming fall of Babylon. When ancient Babylon was destroyed and taken by the Medo-Persia(Kings of the East), there were no famine in the land after its destruction. The people weren't destroyed either under the new empire and life resume as usual but under a different governance and laws. This is what we're facing as reveal in the type. The crisis happened while being under the corrupt Babylonian government, but the Kings of the East released the people from that bondage. There's no crisis coming after the fall but the very opposite. There will be a lot of cleaning up and restructuring within each country.

We don't know how everything is going to play out in terms of the existing banks closing. These banks are all totally bankrupt with trillions in derivatives and a high stack of criminal records against them. When a business closes, and its balance sheet says minus trillion of dollars, then normally all assets are seized.

Most sources says all the savers funds will be lost, for sure those in bonds and stock markets. But concerning the cash balance in the bank, I have heard a few sources that says that the Kings of the East of today will somehow make a smooth transaction possible from the corrupt system to the new. We just don't know what will happen as there's lots of mis-information circuling around. However we receive a fair warning. We have heard and seen many signs clearly this past year.

I see withdrawing your savings out before the collapse is the minimal wise thing to do. But don't do what I say. Everyone needs to pray to the Lord about this and follow what He says for you to do.
Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/24/13 05:10 PM

What if the are supply shortages? What if there is then hyper-inflation? What happens when your savings (gold or fiat dollars) are gone? How much does a typical person have in savings? As Genesis 47 shows, you over time become slaves of the government, after it has taken all your money, all your livelihood (live stock) and finally all your land. Look at the fall of Rome, which its military expansion, shortages of all goods, and finally hyper-inflation. Money of any kind, is like art, it only has value if others also esteem it to have value. Who are you going to depend on then? Your money, now gone? Your government? There is only one that can be depended on. God.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/24/13 11:09 PM

Originally Posted By: APL
What if the are supply shortages?

Shortages of what?
Quote:
What if there is then hyper-inflation?
Well isn't what is going on now?
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What happens when your savings (gold or fiat dollars) are gone?
Life will continue like in the type of the overthrow of ancient Babylon. There was no lack and there will be much more jobs and money in circulation after Babylon is gone. However Babylon's fiat money and system which belongs to the Rothchilds empire and other Sabattean families allied with them will be destroyed. Each nation will produce their own money backed with Gold and their own resources they have in their own country.
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How much does a typical person have in savings?
Most people have none, but those that have a little, it could be very wise to transfer it in something that will retain its value.
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As Genesis 47 shows, you over time become slaves of the government, after it has taken all your money, all your livelihood (live stock) and finally all your land.
Yes and that's is what is currently going on right now as the bankers are taking everything if the country doesn't pay back the money with interest.

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Look at the fall of Rome, which its military expansion, shortages of all goods, and finally hyper-inflation. Money of any kind, is like art, it only has value if others also esteem it to have value. Who are you going to depend on then? Your money, now gone? Your government? There is only one that can be depended on. God.
The Lord let us know what is to come and it is very clear that Babylon is going to fall by the hand of the Kings of the East like it did with ancient Babylon. The Kings of the East today is some ancient emperial family from China. Over the years(50+) they have allied themselves with 180 countries all waging war against the Sabateans Cabalist. This emperial family are not the current Chinese government. Also they do not want to rule the earth or other countries as they have learn over the millenium that the Lord is King. However, they know that the King of Kings have given them a mandate to deliver the world from the Cabal Tyrannical system. Each countries will be free to govern themselves and history will be there warning not to repeat the mistakes of the past. Basically that's all these people know.

However, we know from Daniel and Revelation that when Babylon will fall, Elohim will give the Kingdom to His elects. They are the ones that will rule the earth with Jesus. This is what the Law and the prophecies teaches.

You may say that we will go to heaven for 1000 year... however this is not Biblical and is an interpretation coming from men that have added or twisted certain texts while ignoring explict text like Zech 14:9; Dan 2:35,44; Dn 7:14, 18, 22, 27; Rev 11:15; Rev 5:10; 20:4; & others that contradict their interpretation. I was challenge on this by Daryl last year, and no-one was able to find biblical support that the millenium will be in heaven contrary to the text above saying explictly that the Kingdom is on earth and we will rule on earth. The study can be foundThe 2nd Coming, Judgment, & the 1000 Years. Check it out.
Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/25/13 02:30 AM

Shortages of what? Oh, nothing much, just things like food, fuel, spare parts, clothing, ... This is in part because of the current globalization, which will collapse. Globalization works because of cheap transportation and labor.
Is hyper-inflation going on now? No. It happened at the fall of the Roman empire. The price of bread inflated to 34,000 times its historic value. It has happen sporadically in recent times, but are we seeing it right now? No.
1000 years - ok, so the SOP is out.
Money - fiat currency will fail. Where do you hope to store your gold? Some place safe I hope, were it won't get stolen. Matthew 6:19-21 Lay not up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust does corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust does corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Luke 12:33-34 Sell that you have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that fails not, where no thief approaches, neither moth corrupts. 34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Israel's first temple was full of gold, silver and bronze beyond weighing. Some estimates put the amount of gold in it at around $350,000,000,000.00 in today's dollars. What good did it do for them? If our trust is not in the Lord, it will not make any difference how much gold you have.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/25/13 03:35 AM

Originally Posted By: APL
Shortages of what? Oh, nothing much, just things like food, fuel, spare parts, clothing, ... This is in part because of the current globalization, which will collapse. Globalization works because of cheap transportation and labor.
Is hyper-inflation going on now? No. It happened at the fall of the Roman empire. The price of bread inflated to 34,000 times its historic value. It has happen sporadically in recent times, but are we seeing it right now? No.
1000 years - ok, so the SOP is out.
Money - fiat currency will fail. Where do you hope to store your gold? Some place safe I hope, were it won't get stolen. Matthew 6:19-21 Lay not up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust does corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust does corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Luke 12:33-34 Sell that you have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that fails not, where no thief approaches, neither moth corrupts. 34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Israel's first temple was full of gold, silver and bronze beyond weighing. Some estimates put the amount of gold in it at around $350,000,000,000.00 in today's dollars. What good did it do for them? If our trust is not in the Lord, it will not make any difference how much gold you have.
APL your argument does not look at the Type about the fall of Babylon layed out by the Lord in the history and prophesy. The TYPE says there will be food, clothing and etc... after the fall of Babylon. Thus, countries will have to have their money backed with something real like gold and silver and other commodities as people and nations will still need to buy and sell between themselves and "trusting" in the Lord without having any system of value in place will make trading very unrealistic and complicated. In the Law of Moses there was always value associated with everything and it was based on gold silver barley and other commodities. We need to go back to the Lord economical system and that's what the sons(the body=royal priesthood) of the High Priest(Jesus) will be doing.

You talk about trusting in the Lord. APL why isn't your trust in the Lord's past revelation and Biblical prophecies?
Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/25/13 04:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: APL
Shortages of what? Oh, nothing much, just things like food, fuel, spare parts, clothing, ... This is in part because of the current globalization, which will collapse. Globalization works because of cheap transportation and labor.
Is hyper-inflation going on now? No. It happened at the fall of the Roman empire. The price of bread inflated to 34,000 times its historic value. It has happen sporadically in recent times, but are we seeing it right now? No.
1000 years - ok, so the SOP is out.
Money - fiat currency will fail. Where do you hope to store your gold? Some place safe I hope, were it won't get stolen. Matthew 6:19-21 Lay not up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust does corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust does corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Luke 12:33-34 Sell that you have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that fails not, where no thief approaches, neither moth corrupts. 34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Israel's first temple was full of gold, silver and bronze beyond weighing. Some estimates put the amount of gold in it at around $350,000,000,000.00 in today's dollars. What good did it do for them? If our trust is not in the Lord, it will not make any difference how much gold you have.
APL your argument does not look at the Type about the fall of Babylon layed out by the Lord in the history and prophesy. The TYPE says there will be food, clothing and etc... after the fall of Babylon. Thus, countries will have to have their money backed with something real like gold and silver and other commodities as people and nations will still need to buy and sell between themselves and "trusting" in the Lord without having any system of value in place will make trading very unrealistic and complicated. In the Law of Moses there was always value associated with everything and it was based on gold silver barley and other commodities. We need to go back to the Lord economical system and that's what the sons(the body=royal priesthood) of the High Priest(Jesus) will be doing.

You talk about trusting in the Lord. APL why isn't your trust in the Lord's past revelation and Biblical prophecies?
Did Elijah have a economical system in which to work? Was is bread and water sure? Yes. When all hell breaks loose, will you be able to buy and sell with out the mark of the beast? Maybe if you have enough gold! Buy Gold! But bury it in a safe place.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/25/13 08:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
If anyone wants to buy precious metals and never have done this before, you can contact me and I'll send you links and info. Actually I can also provide it soon here in this discussion if it's ok with Daryl that I do so. Actually that would be more convenient for all of us as you would maintain your privacy.
Oh, Oh, Oh. That is so sad. So very sad.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/29/13 03:01 PM


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Look out! The ‘BRIIICS’ are coming!

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03/28/295484/look-out-the-briiics-are-coming/

Yes, BRIIICS, with three “I”s. That’s because to the countries of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa (which have just held a summit in Durban, South Africa) will soon be added Iran and Indonesia.

Iran is a stalwart moral and political leader. It stands up against Zionism. It has huge natural resources. It is making extraordinary technological progress. It will soon be a BRIIICS member.

And so will Indonesia, which has the world’s fourth largest population, a fast developing economy (around 7% per year) and, again, huge natural resources.

Already, the present BRICS have 40% of the world’s population, 30% of its land mass, and 25% of its GDP with the latter being a sharply rising figure. Other countries, like Venezuela, Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan and Malaysia, are certain to join in.

Much more important, however, is the BRICS decision to set up a new development bank for long-term infrastructure. This is intended to rival, indeed, outclass, the Western-backed institutions. The underlying rationale is simple: the BRICS are determined to challenge Western political and economic dominance and, in particular, to break the dominance of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, which have not served the development needs of poor countries and have generally served only to put them into ever-increasing, un-repayable debt.

All of which is excellent news. The West has exploited emerging and poor countries and everywhere has been financially and militarily aggressive. Put simply, other countries are fed-up with the West: they have had enough.

The new bank, however, has more purposes than just being a development bank. American aggression, for example, is ultimately dependent upon the US dollar being the world’s reserve and main trading currency. The BRICS are going to end that by establishing a new reserve and trading currency.

Indeed, the situation can be put even more clearly. The West has long exploited and oppressed everybody that it could but now the boot, in the traditional metaphor, is on the other foot. Political power is shifting away from the West; economic power is shifting away from the West and its moral authority has almost completely disappeared (torture, assassinations, the creeping genocide of the Palestinians and the deliberate furtherance of a vicious sectarianism have seen to that).

Significantly, the BRICS are objecting to sanctions and war threats against Iran and are strongly opposed to Zionist Israel. It will not be long they declare that Israel is a pariah state.

Perhaps the most significant outcome of the BRICS summit is the proposed creation of an optic fibre cable linking all five states (with relatively easy extensions to Iran and Indonesia). Indeed, it could be that the BRICS are constructing an independent global optic fibre internet system or at least an extensive one over which they will have complete control. The BRICS are intensely aware that the USA, denying the evidence of its own sixteen intelligence agencies, is pursuing a Zionist agenda against Iran which includes excluding Iran from the SWIFT international banking system and other banking transactions. The new cable should put an end to that.

The BRICS are raising the flag of independence and are telling the West that its abuse of others has gone so far that the others are going to make their own way in life. And that will really matter because more and more Non-Aligned Movement nations will be joining the BRICS in various ways which will particularly include regional, economic, financial, military and technological agreements. An example is that China and Brazil have signed a currency swap deal under which they will be using their own currencies for half of their mutual trade i.e., the US dollar will not be involved. For a while the US dollar can be expected to remain the main trading currency - until suddenly it isn’t.

Furthermore, Africa, for example, long exploited solely for its minerals and resources with no concern for the lives of the inhabitants, is simply going to turn to those who can provide the one big thing that Africa needs - industrialisation.

The importance of the BRICS summit cannot be overestimated partly because it represents new countries beginning to take power and partly because it heralds a new world coming into being.

However, a new world is not necessarily a better world and the BRICS, becoming the BRIIICS and much more, must be careful not to incorporate, without realising, assumptions and practices stemming from corrupt old Western institutions, thinking and practices. Chief of these is thinking that it does not matter if there is huge rich-poor division. This is at the heart of corrupt Western ‘trickle-down’ economics and is a complete breach of fundamental market principle, which says that producers and consumers must be the same people i.e., real productive (and therefore consuming) power must be spread to everyone in society.

Another corrupt assumption is that interest is necessary for the spreading of real productive capacity. Interest is not necessary: it is an unnecessary tax imposed by the global financial elite merely for its own benefit. The BRIIICS must ensure that the commercial banks are controlled so that they can only lend their own money (which they can then waste, if they want to, or charge interest on it). But the main money supply, for the spreading of the real economy, must stem, interest-free, from the national bank (although it may be administered by the commercial banks making only a fair administration charge).

Jalal (making a comment on the Press TV website) writes: “This is the best thing that could happen to the world. A new power that will not let the ex-colonials have the big cake to themselves as usual. This could also be the right path to finally new world order that will contribute to free human being and lead mankind towards a more balanced and harmonious world.”

Quite right, Jalal.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/29/13 03:21 PM

I found this recent article concerning Canada. I don't know if the interpretation of the writer is correct, but basically he's saying that the 2013 Canadian budget plan is to do the same as in Cyprus???
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Canada Includes Depositor Haircut Bail-In Provision For Systemically Important Banks in 2013 Budget!

http://www.silverdoctors.com/canada-incl...in-2013-budget/

Just as DieselBOOM accidentally admitted Monday, it appears that the Cypriot bail-in is anything but a one-off event, and is in fact the new collapse template for the entire Western banking system, and not just the ECB/ Eurozone!

SD[Silver Doctor] has been alerted to an alarming provision that has been buried deep inside the official 2013 Canadian Budget that will result in depositor haircut bail-ins jumping to this side of the pond during the next bank crisis!

Titled ECONOMIC ACTION PLAN 2013 and tabled in the House of Commons by Minster of Finance James Flaherty on March 21st, the official 2013 Canadian budget contains an explicit provision that Canada will pursue the bail-in model for systemically important banks for future bank failures!

Depositor haircuts have just jumped to this side of the pond, effective the next bank crisis/ failure:

From Page 144:

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The Government also recognizes the need to manage the risks associated with systemically important banks—those banks whose distress or failure could cause a disruption to the financial system and, in turn, negative impacts on the economy. This requires strong prudential oversight and a robust set of options for resolving these institutions without the use of taxpayer funds, in the unlikely event that one becomes non-viable.”

Translated, Without the use of taxpayer funds means via depositor funds.

And the meat of the provision, from Page 145:

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"The Government proposes to implement a bail-in regime for systemically important banks. This regime will be designed to ensure that, in the unlikely event that a systemically important bank depletes its capital, the bank can be recapitalized and returned to viability through the very rapid conversion of certain bank liabilities into regulatory capital.

This will reduce risks for taxpayers. The Government will consult stakeholders on how best to implement a bail-in regime in Canada."

Implementation timelines will allow for a smooth transition for affected institutions, investors and other market participants…

Confiscating wealth from depositors will reduce risks for taxpayers??? Only those with 100% of their assets in physical gold and silver, or those Canadian depositors who are somehow not also taxpayers perhaps!

The bail-in provision in Canada’s 2013 budget can be found on pages 144,145:

www.budget.gc.ca/2013/doc/plan/budget2013-eng.pdf
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/01/13 05:07 PM

Yah, yah, and everyone buy their gold from _|_.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/04/13 02:06 PM

It looks like the above article interpretation of the 2013 Canadian budget was correct. Read today's CBC financial head news below.
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Neil Macdonald: Ottawa weighing plans for bank failures
Federal government looking at 'Cyprus solution'


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/04/02/f-rfa-macdonald-canada-cyprus-banks.html

"Buried deep in last month's federal budget is an ambiguously worded section that has roiled parts of the financial world but has so far been largely ignored by the mainstream media.

It boils down to this: Ottawa is contemplating the possibility of a Canadian bank failure — and the same sort of pitiless prescription that was just imposed in Cyprus.

Meaning no bailout by taxpayers, but rather a "bail-in" that would force the bank's creditors to absorb the staggering losses that such an event would inevitably entail.

If that sounds sobering, it should. While officials in Ottawa are playing down the possibility of a raid on the bank accounts of ordinary Canadians, they chose not to include that guarantee in the budget language.

Canadians tend to believe their banks are safer and more backstopped than elsewhere in the world. The federal government enthusiastically promotes the notion, and loves to take credit for it.

It may well be true, even if Canada's six-bank oligopoly isn't terribly competitive, at least in comparison to the far more diverse American banking universe.

But in the ever-more insecure world that has unfolded since the financial meltdown of 2008, it is also increasingly clear that nothing is safe anymore, not even blue-chip bank stocks and bonds or even, in the case of the Cyprus bail-in, private bank accounts.

And now, Canada is making a bail-in official government policy, too.

"The government proposes to implement a bail-in regime … designed to ensure that, in the unlikely event that a systemically important bank depletes its capital, the bank can be recapitalized and returned to viability," says Finance Minister Jim Flaherty's March 21 budget, on page 144.

That would be done, the document says, through the rapid conversion of "certain bank liabilities."

Ottawa's budget document leaves the definition of "certain liabilities" to the reader's imagination.

Bank deposits?
There has been very little public debate about the plan to date, but Finance Department officials and the banks protest it should never be taken to mean small personal deposits would be seized.

Depositors wait to enter a branch of the Laiki Bank in Nicosia on March 28. Cyprus's banks had been closed for almost two weeks as the country's financial crisis mounted, and were only opened with tight controls on transactions to prevent a further run. (Bogdan Cristel / Reuters)Deposits are insured by the Canadian Deposit Insurance Corporation, up to $100,000, and the inviolability of that insurance is key to maintaining the crucial public trust.

"The risk of the Canadian government not honouring its insurance on deposits is as close to zero as you can get," says Craig Alexander, chief economist at TD Canada Trust.

Perhaps.

As the Cyprus meltdown proceeded, it became clear that Europe's finance ministers and central banks, encouraged by the International Monetary Fund, were not only willing to freeze and seize uninsured deposits over 100,000 euros, they were also initially willing to cancel deposit insurance and go after small depositors, too.

In the end, the plan was rewritten, and insured deposits were protected. But the signal had been sent: The Europeans and the IMF had been prepared to do the unthinkable.

Holland's finance minister then declared that bail-ins would be the template for all future bank rescues in Europe, and that he could not rule out seizure of deposits elsewhere.

"It was a monumentally stupid thing to do," says TD Canada Trust's Alexander. "I do not believe we would ever see that in Canada.

"I think the international community will have learned from their mistake. And it was a huge mistake."

High-risk bonds
So what does Canada have in mind with its proposed bail-in scheme?

The aim is virtuous: Canada wants to erase the enormous moral hazard created by the concept of "too big to fail."

Americans still burn with anger at the decision to reward irresponsible, even fraudulent bankers with trillions in public bailout money, while the rest of the country sank into recession. Canadian tax money was also used to prop up banks and the automotive industry.

In ruling out future bailouts, Ottawa's logic is simple: Make it clear there is no tax-funded safety net, and you discourage reckless behaviour, protecting taxpayers in the process.

That leaves the question, though, of how to save a sinking bank, something that would devastate the economy. (Although one has to assume that by the time a Canadian bank started sinking, the economy would already be in a nightmare.)

As things currently stand, if a big-six bank began to fail its shares would tank, and investors would lose everything. A run would begin, and the bank would flounder, desperate for capital. Credit markets would also likely freeze.

Without government intervention, the bank would be placed in receivership, and its bondholders would carve up what would be left of the bank's assets.

What Ottawa intends to propose — the concept has been discussed for a few years now in the rarefied circles of monetary experts — is the creation of a new type of higher-risk bank bond known as "contingent capital."

The bondholder would enjoy a higher-than-normal return, maybe even a much higher-than-normal return.

But it would be understood that in the event of a threatened failure, the bond would be converted to shares, meaning potentially a total loss for the bondholder, and a source of capital for the bank.

Think of it as a kind of pre-approved loan for the bank itself.

Trust in government
In a speech, Mark Carney, Canada's departing central banker, has called publicly for just such a system.

At TD Canada Trust, Alexander says this kind of system would make the banks stronger.

But he also notes that many Canadians believe, mistakenly, that their RRSPs and other holdings are safe and insured, too, up to the $100,000 threshold.

They don't often realize that government bonds as well as stocks and mutual funds are among the investments that don't qualify for CDIC insurance.

As to whether small, insured deposits are safe in the event of a failure, that boils down to a question of trust in government.

Christine Lagarde, head of the IMF, was prepared to seize a portion of all deposits in Cyprus. So was the European Central Bank, and so were Europe's finance ministers.

Holland's finance minister, who led the euro-group effort, later "clarified," his statement about seizing deposits elsewhere, saying that Cyprus was clearly a "one-off" event.

But then so, supposedly, was the massive haircut imposed on the unfortunate holders of Greek sovereign bonds last year.

The fact is, if Ottawa is seriously contemplating the failure of a Canadian bank, ordinary Canadians might want to do the same, and govern themselves accordingly.
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/04/13 02:46 PM

Now not only in Canada that the ground is prepared for a Cyprus "Bail-Ins" style of bailing out the already severely Bankrupted Banks, but in the UK and US as found in their new policies found in the joint FDIC and BOE resolution document :http://www.fdic.gov/about/srac/2012/gsifi.pdf

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FDIC & Bank of England Create Resolution Authority for Unlimited Cyprus-Style “Bail-Ins” for TBTF Banks!

http://silverdoctors.com/fdic-bank-of-en...for-tbtf-banks/

"On Wednesday, SD[Silver Doctor] broke the news that Canada had buried a provision for depositor bail-ins for systemically important banks deep inside its official 2013 budget, and stated that the Cypriot bail-in was not just a one-off event, but is in fact the new collapse template for the entire Western banking system.

We suspected that the same policy change had been made by the US & the UK, but was simply yet to be discovered, buried in the website of a Federal agency.

We suspected correctly…

In the introduction, the resolution informs readers that the FDIC and the Bank of England have been working together to formulate the new bail-in model for future bank failures:

Quote:
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and the Bank of England—together with the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and the Financial Services Authority— have been working to develop resolution strategies for the failure of globally active, systemically important, financial institutions (SIFIs or G-SIFIs) with significant operations on both sides of the Atlantic.
The goal is to produce resolution strategies that could be implemented for the failure of one or more of the largest financial institutions with extensive activities in our respective jurisdictions. These resolution strategies should maintain systemically important operations and contain threats to financial stability. They should also assign losses to shareholders and unsecured creditors in the group, thereby avoiding the need for a bailout by taxpayers.

The joint US/UK resolution states that depositor haircuts are already legal in the UK thanks to the 2009 UK Banking Act:

Quote:
In the U.K., the strategy has been developed on the basis of the powers provided by the U.K. Banking Act 2009 and in anticipation of the further powers that will be provided by the European Union Recovery and Resolution Directive and the domestic reforms that implement the recommendations of the U.K. Independent Commission on Banking. Such a strategy would involve the bail-in (write-down or conversion) of creditors at the top of the group in order to restore the whole group to solvency.

And that the legal authority has already been given in the US buried in Dodd-Frank:

Quote:
It should be stressed that the application of such a strategy can be achieved only within a legislative framework that provides authorities with key resolution powers. The FSB Key Attributes have established a crucial framework for the implementation of an effective set of resolution powers and practices into national regimes. In the U.S., these powers had already become available under the Dodd-Frank Act. In the U.K., the additional powers needed to enhance the existing resolution framework established under the Banking Act 2009(the Banking Act) are expected to be fully provided by the European Commission’s proposals for a European Union Recovery and Resolution Directive (RRD) and through the domestic reforms that implement the recommendations of the U.K. Independent Commission on Banking (ICB), enhancing the existing
resolution framework established under the Banking Act.
The development of effective resolution strategies is being carried out in anticipation of such legislation.
The unsecured debt holders can expect that their claims would be written down to reflect any losses that shareholders cannot cover, with some converted partly into equity in order to provide sufficient capital to return the sound businesses of the G-SIFI to private sector operation. Sound subsidiaries (domestic and foreign) would be kept open and operating, thereby limiting contagion effects and cross-border complications. In both countries, whether during execution of the resolution or thereafter, restructuring measures may be taken, especially in the parts of the business causing the distress, including shrinking those businesses, breaking them into smaller entities, and/or liquidating or closing certain operations.

The resolution states that while the US would prefer large financial institutions be resolved through ordinary bankruptcy, depositor wealth confiscation will be pursued in the case of a systemically important institution (i.e. BOA, JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs, etc):

As demonstrated by the Title I requirement of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act of 2010 (Dodd-Frank Act), the U.S. would prefer that large
financial organizations be resolvable through ordinary bankruptcy. However, the U.S. bankruptcy process may not be able to handle the failure of a systemic financial institution without significant disruption to the financial system.

The resolution authority states that shareholders would lose all value prior to depositor scalpings:

Quote:
Under the strategies currently being developed by the U.S. and the U.K., the resolution authority could intervene at the top of the group. Culpable senior management of
the parent and operating businesses would be removed, and losses would be apportioned to shareholders and unsecured creditors. In all likelihood, shareholders would lose all value and unsecured creditors should thus expect that their claims would be written down to reflect any losses that shareholders did not cover.
Under both the U.S. and U.K. approaches, legal safeguards ensure that creditors recover no less than they would under insolvency.

The banksters plans for a bail-in resolution agency include investment banks and clearing houses as well as deposit bearing institutions!!!

Quote:
The introduction of a statutory bail-in resolution tool (the power to writedown or convert into equity the liabilities of a failing firm) under the RRD is critical to implementing a whole group resolution of U.K. firms in a way that reduces the risks to financial stability. A bail-in tool would enable the U.K. authorities to recapitalize an institution by allocating losses to its shareholders and unsecured creditors, thereby avoiding the need to split or transfer operating entities. The provisions in the RRD that
enable the resolution authority to impose a temporary stay on the exercise of termination rights by counterparties in the event of a firm’s entry into resolution (in other words, preventing counterparties from terminating their contractual arrangements with a firm solely as a result of the firm’s entry into resolution) will be needed to ensure the bail-in is executed in an orderly manner.

The existing Banking Act does not cover nondeposit-taking financial firms, notably investment banks and financial market infrastructures (clearing houses in particular), the failure of which, in many cases, would also have significant financial stability consequences. The Banking Act also has limitations with regard to the application of resolution tools to financial holding companies. The U.K. is in the process of expanding the scope of the Banking Act to include these firms. This is expected to be achieved through the introduction of the U.K. Financial Services Bill, which is due to complete its passage through Parliament by the end of this year.

Exactly as played out with the Cyprus template, depositors will receive equity shares in the new, bailed-in institution:

Quote:
The remaining claims of the debt holders will be converted, in part, into equity claims that will serve to capitalize the new operations. The debt holders may also receive convertible subordinated debt in the new operations. This debt would provide a cushion against further losses in the firm, as it can be converted into equity if needed. Any

remaining claims of the debt holders could be transferred to the new operations in the form of new unsecured debt.



Exactly as played out with the Cyprus template, depositor funds will be stolen in whatever quantities are required to keep the TBTF zombie bank afloat:

Quote:
Once the recapitalization requirement has been determined, an announcement of the final terms of the bail-in would be made to the previous security holders.

This announcement would include full details of the write-down and/or conversion.
Debt securities would be cancelled or written down in order to return the firm to solvency by reducing the level of outstanding liabilities. The losses would be applied up the firm’s capital structure in a process that respects the existing creditor hierarchy underinsolvency law. The value of any loans from the parent to its operating subsidiaries would be written down in a manner that ensures that the subsidiaries remain solvent and viable.


For now (until the rules are changed when a greater need for funds arises, funds will only be stolen from depositors with more than the FDIC insured $100,000 in their account:

Quote:
Insofar as a bail-in provides for continuity in operations and preserves value, losses to a deposit guarantee scheme in a bail-in should be much lower than in liquidation.

Insured depositors themselves would remain unaffected. Uninsured deposits would be treated in line with other similarly ranked liabilities in the resolution process, with the expectation that they might be written down.

In order for the resolution to work, the banksters state that the public must be convinced their deposits are safe, when in fact they are subject to bail-in confiscation:

Quote:
Similarly, because the group remains solvent, retail or corporate depositors should not have an incentive to “run” from the firm under resolution insofar as their banking
arrangements, transacted at the operating company level, remain unaffected. In order to achieve this, the authorities recognize the need for effective communication to depositors, making it clear that their deposits will be protected.

0.1% interest on savings deposits with the now VERY REAL THREAT OF COMPLETE CONFISCATION in the US & UK doesn’t sound like such a great return to us.

The Fed appears to be making a calculated play to force savings out of the TBTF banks and into stocks and real estate, a move that is likely to backfire spectacularly.

GOT PHYZZ??"

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Here's the full joint FDIC and BOE resolution document : http://www.fdic.gov/about/srac/2012/gsifi.pdf
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/05/13 02:48 PM

Mystery(secret) Babylon is being exposed!!!

Wikileaks has exposed 2.5 millioin secret files(emails and monetary transfers) to the media. It appears that thousands of secret offshore bank accounts held by the politicians, lawyers, mega compagnies, ultra rich, con men, bankers, countries leaders, etc... totalling as much as $32 TRILLION.

2.5 million secret bank files leaked, exposing Offshore Global Impact

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/offshore-companies-politicians_n_3008426.html

Dozens of journalists sifted through millions of leaked records and thousands of names to produce ICIJ’s[International Consortium of Investigative Journalists
] investigation into offshore secrecy


A cache of 2.5 million files has cracked open the secrets of more than 120,000 offshore companies and trusts, exposing hidden dealings of politicians, con men and the mega-rich the world over.

The secret records obtained by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists lay bare the names behind covert companies and private trusts in the British Virgin Islands, the Cook Islands and other offshore hideaways.

They include American doctors and dentists and middle-class Greek villagers as well as families and associates of long-time despots, Wall Street swindlers, Eastern European and Indonesian billionaires, Russian corporate executives, international arms dealers and a sham-director-fronted company that the European Union has labeled as a cog in Iran’s nuclear-development program.

The leaked files provide facts and figures — cash transfers, incorporation dates, links between companies and individuals — that illustrate how offshore financial secrecy has spread aggressively around the globe, allowing the wealthy and the well-connected to dodge taxes and fueling corruption and economic woes in rich and poor nations alike. The records detail the offshore holdings of people and companies in more than 170 countries and territories.

The hoard of documents represents the biggest stockpile of inside information about the offshore system ever obtained by a media organization. The total size of the files, measured in gigabytes, is more than 160 times larger than the leak of U.S. State Department documents by Wikileaks in 2010.

To analyze the documents, ICIJ collaborated with reporters from The Guardian and the BBC in the U.K., Le Monde in France, Süddeutsche Zeitung and Norddeutscher Rundfunk in Germany, The Washington Post, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) and 31 other media partners around the world.

Eighty-six journalists from 46 countries used high-tech data crunching and shoe-leather reporting to sift through emails, account ledgers and other files covering nearly 30 years.

“I’ve never seen anything like this. This secret world has finally been revealed,” said Arthur Cockfield, a law professor and tax expert at Queen’s University in Canada, who reviewed some of the documents during an interview with the CBC. He said the documents remind him of the scene in the movie classic The Wizard of Oz in which “they pull back the curtain and you see the wizard operating this secret machine.”

Mobsters and Oligarchs
The vast flow of offshore money — legal and illegal, personal and corporate — can roil economies and pit nations against each other. Europe’s continuing financial crisis has been fueled by a Greek fiscal disaster exacerbated by offshore tax cheating and by a banking meltdown in the tiny tax haven of Cyprus, where local banks’ assets have been inflated by waves of cash from Russia.

Anti-corruption campaigners argue that offshore secrecy undermines law and order and forces average citizens to pay higher taxes to make up for revenues that vanish offshore. Studies have estimated that cross-border flows of global proceeds of financial crimes total between $1 trillion and $1.6 trillion a year.

ICIJ’s 15-month investigation found that, alongside perfectly legal transactions, the secrecy and lax oversight offered by the offshore world allows fraud, tax dodging and political corruption to thrive.

Offshore patrons identified in the documents include:

• Individuals and companies linked to Russia’s Magnitsky Affair, a tax fraud scandal that has strained U.S.-Russia relations and led to a ban on Americans adopting Russian orphans.

• A Venezuelan deal maker accused of using offshore entities to bankroll a U.S.-based Ponzi scheme and funneling millions of dollars in bribes to a Venezuelan government official.

• A corporate mogul who won billions of dollars in contracts amid Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev’s massive construction boom even as he served as a director of secrecy-shrouded offshore companies owned by the president’s daughters.

• Indonesian billionaires with ties to the late dictator Suharto, who enriched a circle of elites during his decades in power.

The documents also provide possible new clues to crimes and money trails that have gone cold.

After learning ICIJ had identified the eldest daughter of the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos, Maria Imelda Marcos Manotoc, as a beneficiary of a British Virgin Islands (BVI) trust, Philippine officials said they were eager to find out whether any assets in the trust are part of the estimated $5 billion her father amassed through corruption.

Manotoc, a provincial governor in the Philippines, declined to answer a series of questions about the trust.

Politically connected wealth
The files obtained by ICIJ shine a light on the day-to-day tactics that offshore services firms and their clients use to keep offshore companies, trusts and their owners under cover.

Tony Merchant, one of Canada’s top class-action lawyers, took extra steps to maintain the privacy of a Cook Islands trust that he’d stocked with more than $1 million in 1998, the documents show.

In a filing to Canadian tax authorities, Merchant checked “no” when asked if he had foreign assets of more than $100,000 in 1999, court records show.

Between 2002 and 2009, he often paid his fees to maintain the trust by sending thousands of dollars in cash and traveler’s checks stuffed into envelopes rather than using easier-to-trace bank checks or wire transfers, according to documents from the offshore services firm that oversaw the trust for him.

One file note warned the firm’s staffers that Merchant would “have a st[r]oke” if they tried to communicate with him by fax.

It is unclear whether his wife, Pana Merchant, a Canadian senator, declared her personal interest in the trust on annual financial disclosure forms. Under legislative rules, she had to disclose every year to the Senate’s ethics commissioner that she was a beneficiary of the trust, but the information was confidential.

The Merchants declined requests for comment.
Other high profile names identified in the offshore data include the wife of Russia’s deputy prime minister, Igor Shuvalov, and two top executives with Gazprom, the Russian government-owned corporate behemoth that is the world’s largest extractor of natural gas.

Shuvalov’s wife and the Gazprom officials had stakes in BVI companies, documents show. All three declined comment.

In a neighboring land, the deputy speaker of Mongolia’s Parliament said he was considering resigning from office after ICIJ questioned him about records showing he has an offshore company and a secret Swiss bank account.

“I shouldn’t have opened that account,” Bayartsogt Sangajav, who has also served as his country’s finance minister, said. “I probably should consider resigning from my position.”

Bayartsogt said his Swiss account at one point contained more than $1 million, but most of the money belonged to what he described as “business friends” he had joined in investing in international stocks.

He acknowledged that he hasn’t officially declared his BVI company or the Swiss account in Mongolia, but he said he didn’t avoid taxes because the investments didn’t produce income.

“I should have included the company in my declarations,” he said.

Wealthy Clients
The documents also show how the mega-rich use complex offshore structures to own mansions, art and other assets, gaining tax advantages and anonymity not available to average people.

Spanish names include a baroness and famed art patron, Carmen Thyssen-Bornemisza, who is identified in the documents using a company in the Cook Islands to buy artwork through auction houses such as Sotheby’s and Christie’s, including Van Gogh’s Water Mill at Gennep. Her attorney acknowledged that she gains tax benefits by holding ownership of her art offshore, but stressed that she uses tax havens primarily because they give her “maximum flexibility” when she moves art from country to country.

Among nearly 4,000 American names is Denise Rich, a Grammy-nominated songwriter whose ex-husband was at the center of an American pardon scandal that erupted as President Bill Clinton left office.

A Congressional investigation found that Rich, who raised millions of dollars for Democratic politicians, played a key role in the campaign that persuaded Clinton to pardon her ex-spouse, Marc Rich, an oil trader who had been wanted in the U.S. on tax evasion and racketeering charges.

Records obtained by ICIJ show she had $144 million in April 2006 in a trust in the Cook Islands, a chain of coral atolls and volcanic outcroppings nearly 7,000 miles from her home at the time in Manhattan. The trust’s holdings included a yacht called the Lady Joy, where Rich often entertained celebrities and raised money for charity.

Rich, who gave up her U.S. citizenship in 2011 and now maintains citizenship in Austria, did not reply to questions about her offshore trust.

Another prominent American in the files who gave up his citizenship is a member of the Mellon dynasty, which started landmark companies such as Gulf Oil and Mellon Bank. James R. Mellon – an author of books about Abraham Lincoln and his family’s founding patriarch, Thomas Mellon – used four companies in the BVI and Lichtenstein to trade securities and transfer tens of millions of dollars among offshore bank accounts he controlled.

Like many offshore players, Mellon appears to have taken steps to distance himself from his offshore interests, the documents show. He often used third parties’ names as directors and shareholders of his companies rather than his own, a legal tool that owners of offshore entities often use to preserve anonymity.

Reached in Italy where lives part of the year, Mellon told ICIJ that, in fact, he used to own “a whole bunch” of offshore companies but has disposed of all of them. He said he set up the firms for “tax advantage” and liability reasons, as advised by his lawyer. “But I have never broken the tax law.”

Of the use of nominees Mellon said that “that’s the way these firms are set up,” and added that it’s useful for people like him who travel a lot to have somebody else in charge of his businesses. “I just heard of a presidential candidate who had a lot of money in the Cayman Islands,” Mellon, now a British national, said alluding to former U.S. presidential candidate Mitt Romney. “Not everyone who owns offshores is a crook.”

Offshore growth
The anonymity of the offshore world makes it difficult to track the flow of money. A study by James S. Henry, former chief economist at McKinsey & Company, estimates that wealthy individuals have $21 trillion to $32 trillion in private financial wealth tucked away in offshore havens — roughly equivalent to the size of the U.S. and Japanese economies combined.

Even as the world economy has stumbled, the offshore world has continued to grow, said Henry, who is a board member of the Tax Justice Network, an international research and advocacy group that is critical of offshore havens. His research shows, for example, that assets managed by the world’s 50 largest “private banks” — which often use offshore havens to serve their “high net worth” customers — grew from $5.4 trillion in 2005 to more than $12 trillion in 2010.

Henry and other critics argue that offshore secrecy has a corrosive effect on governments and legal systems, allowing crooked officials to loot national treasuries and providing cover to human smugglers, mobsters, animal poachers and other exploiters.

Offshore’s defenders counter that most offshore patrons are engaged in legitimate transactions. Offshore centers, they say, allow companies and individuals to diversify their investments, forge commercial alliances across national borders and do business in entrepreneur-friendly zones that eschew the heavy rules and red tape of the onshore world.

“Everything is much more geared toward business,” David Marchant, publisher of OffshoreAlert, an online news journal, said. “If you’re dishonest you can take advantage of that in a bad way. But if you’re honest you can take advantage of that in a good way.”

Much of ICIJ’s reporting focused on the work of two offshore firms, Singapore-based Portcullis TrustNet and BVI-based Commonwealth Trust Limited (CTL), which have helped tens of thousands of people set up offshore companies and trusts and hard-to-trace bank accounts.

Regulators in the BVI found that CTL repeatedly violated the islands’ anti-money-laundering laws between 2003 and 2008 by failing to verify and record its clients’ identities and backgrounds. “This particular firm had systemic money laundering issues within their organization,” an official with the BVI’s Financial Services Commission said last year.

The documents show, for example, that CTL set up 31 companies in 2006 and 2007 for an individual later identified in U.K. court claims as a front man for Mukhtar Ablyazov, a Kazakh banking tycoon who has been accused of stealing $5 billion from one of the former Russian republic’s largest banks. Ablyazov denies wrongdoing.

Thomas Ward, a Canadian who co-founded CTL in 1994 and continues to work as a consultant to the firm, said CTL’s client-vetting procedures have been consistent with industry standards in the BVI, but that no amount of screening can ensure that firms such as CTL won’t be “duped by dishonest clients” or sign on “someone who appears, to all historical examination, to be honest” but “later turns to something dishonest.”

“It is wrong, though perhaps convenient, to demonize CTL as by far the major problem area,” Ward said in a written response to questions. “Rather I believe that CTL’s problems were, by and large, directly proportional to its market share.”

ICIJ’s review of TrustNet documents identified 30 American clients accused in lawsuits or criminal cases of fraud, money laundering or other serious financial misconduct. They include ex-Wall Street titans Paul Bilzerian, a corporate raider who was convicted of tax fraud and securities violations in 1989, and Raj Rajaratnam, a billionaire hedge fund manager who was sent to prison in 2011 in one of the biggest insider trading scandals in U.S. history.

TrustNet declined to answer a series of questions for this article.

Blacklisted
The records obtained by ICIJ expose how offshore operatives help their customers weave elaborate financial structures that span countries, continents and hemispheres.

A Thai government official with links to an infamous African dictator used Singapore-based TrustNet to set up a secret company for herself in the BVI, the records show.

The Thai official, Nalinee “Joy” Taveesin, is currently Thailand’s international trade representative. She served as a cabinet minister for Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra before stepping down last year.

Taveesin acquired her BVI company in August 2008. That was seven months after she’d been appointed an advisor to Thailand’s commerce minister — and three months before the U.S. Department of Treasury blacklisted her as a “crony” of Zimbabwean dictator Robert Mugabe.

The Treasury Department froze her U.S. assets, accusing her of “secretly supporting the kleptocratic practices of one of Africa’s most corrupt regimes” through gem trafficking and other deals made on behalf of Mugabe’s wife, Grace, and other powerful Zimbabweans.

Taveesin has said her relationship with the Mugabes is “strictly social” and that the U.S. blacklisting is a case of guilt by association. Through her secretary, Taveesin flatly denied that she owns the BVI company. ICIJ verified her ownership using TrustNet records that listed her and her brother as shareholders of the company and include the main address in Bangkok for her onshore business ventures.

Records obtained by ICIJ also reveal a secret company belonging to Muller Conrad “Billy” Rautenbach, a Zimbabwean businessman who was blacklisted by the U.S. for his ties to the Mugabe regime at the same time as Taveesin. The Treasury Department said Rautenbach has helped organize huge mining projects in Zimbabwe that “benefit a small number of corrupt senior officials.”

When CTL set Rautenbach up with a BVI company in 2006 he was a fugitive, fleeing fraud allegations in South Africa. The charges lodged personally against him were dismissed, but a South African company he controlled pleaded guilty to criminal charges and paid a fine of roughly $4 million.

Rautenbach denies U.S. authorities’ allegations, contending that they made “significant factual and legal errors” in their blacklisting decision, his attorney, Ian Small Smith, said. Smith said Rautenbach’s BVI company was set up as “special purpose vehicle for investment in Moscow” and that it complied with all disclosure regulations. The company is no longer active.

‘One Stop Shop’
Offshore’s customers are served by a well-paid industry of middlemen, accountants, lawyers and banks that provide cover, set up financial structures and shuffle assets on their clients’ behalf.

Documents obtained by ICIJ show how two top Swiss banks, UBS and Clariden, worked with TrustNet to provide their customers with secrecy-shielded companies in the BVI and other offshore centers.

Clariden, owned by Credit Suisse, sought such high levels of confidentiality for some clients, the records show, that a TrustNet official described the bank’s request as the “the Holy Grail” of offshore entities — a company so anonymous that police and regulators would be “met with a blank wall” if they tried to discover the owners’ identities.

Clariden declined to answer questions about its relationship with TrustNet.

“Because of Swiss banking secrecy laws, we are not allowed to provide any information about existing or supposed accountholders,” the bank said. “As a general rule, Credit Suisse and its related companies respect all the laws and regulations in the countries in which they are involved.”

A spokesperson for UBS said the bank applies “the highest international standards” to fight money laundering, and that TrustNet “is one of over 800 service providers globally which UBS clients choose to work with to provide for their wealth and succession planning needs. These service providers are also used by clients of other banks.”

TrustNet describes itself as a “one-stop shop” — its staff includes lawyers, accountants and other experts who can shape secrecy packages to fit the needs and net worths of its clients. These packages can be simple and cheap, such as a company chartered in the BVI. Or they can be sophisticated structures that weave together multiple layers of trusts, companies, foundations, insurance products and so-called “nominee” directors and shareholders.

When they create companies for their clients, offshore services firms often appoint faux directors and shareholders — proxies who serve as stand-ins when the real owners of companies don’t want their identities known. Thanks to the proliferation of proxy directors and shareholders, investigators tracking money laundering and other crimes often hit dead ends when they try to uncover who is really behind offshore companies.

An analysis by ICIJ, the BBC and The Guardian identified a cluster of 28 “sham directors” who served as the on-paper representatives of more than 21,000 companies between them, with individual directors representing as many 4,000 companies each.

Among the front men identified in the documents obtained by ICIJ is a U.K.-based operative who served as a director for a BVI company, Tamalaris Consolidated Limited, which the European Union has labeled as a front company for the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Line. The E.U., the U.N. and the U.S. have accused IRISL of aiding Iran’s nuclear-development program.

‘Zone of Impunity’
International groups have been working for decades to limit tax cheating and corruption in the offshore world.

In the 1990s, the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development began pushing offshore centers to reduce secrecy and get tougher on money laundering, but the effort ebbed in the 2000s. Another push against tax havens began when U.S. authorities took on UBS, forcing the Swiss bank to pay $780 million in 2009 to settle allegations that it had helped Americans dodge taxes. U.S. and German authorities have pressured banks and governments to share information about offshore clients and accounts and UK Prime Minister David Cameron has vowed to use his leadership of the G8, a forum of the world’s richest nations, to help crack down on tax evasion and money laundering.

Promises like those have been met with skepticism, given the role played by key G8 members — the U.S., the U.K. and Russia — as sources and destinations of dirty money. Despite the new efforts, offshore remains a “zone of impunity” for anyone determined to commit financial crimes, said Jack Blum, a former U.S. Senate investigator who is now a lawyer specializing in money laundering and tax fraud cases.

“Periodically, the stench gets so bad somebody has to get out there and clap the lid on the garbage can and sit on it for a while,” Blum said. “There’s been some progress, but there’s a bloody long way to go.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/24/13 02:45 PM

The Last Great Gold-Silver Slam
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2013/04-2013/the-last-great-gold-silver-slam/
April 15, 2013

Last Thursday someone put out a fake report that Cyprus was about to sell its gold to pay off debts, worth about 563 million euros.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/04/11/uk-cyprus-gold-idUKBRE93A0DP20130411

Although the central bank of Cyprus denied the report, they did not have sufficient credibility to convince people that they were telling the truth.

http://www.ibtimes.com/cyprus-denies-rum...her-struggling#

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"A Central Bank of Cyprus spokesperson said Wednesday that rumors stating that it would sell 75 percent (approximately 10 tons or $523 million) of its gold were inaccurately reported by Reuters."

This gave the gold market the jitters, because the more gold is sold, the more the price drops. Then on Friday some large gold manipulator actually put 124 tons of gold on the market for sale, which slammed the price down below $1500/oz.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/massive-2...nfounded-panic/

Reports suggest that a futures sell order worth $6 billion, equal to 4 million ounces or 124.4 tonnes of gold, by a large investment bank sent prices plummeting and spooked the markets contributing to the decline. The order was believed to have been placed through Merrill Lynch’s brokerage team.

The futures market then saw a further wave of selling of contracts worth some $15 billion, equivalent to 10 million ounces of selling or 300 tonnes, in just 35 minutes.

http://bullmarketthinking.com/gold-trade...physical-metal/

Following Friday’s panic sell-off in gold, one of the world’s top gold traders and recent interview guest, Gary Savage, shared some powerful commentary on what the smart money is doing in the market right now.

Gary said,
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”Let me be clear. Just because we got a max ‘Blees’ rating and a large ‘Buying On Weakness’ (BoW) number Friday doesn’t mean the bottom [actually] occurred [on] Friday. It almost certainly didn’t. Margin calls are going out Monday morning.


He is saying that many investors who buy on margin will lose what they have put down as a downpayment in their purchases of (paper) gold futures. And so they will be required to sell their purchases at a loss, because they don't have enough money in the account to keep up with the dropping gold prices. This, in turn, just puts more gold on the market, as people are forced to sell more and more of their gold by the hour.

This only increases the pace of the drop in the price of gold. As the price drops, more and more margin calls occur, and more and more people are forced to sell their paper contracts at a loss. It is like a snowball rolling down a hill, increasing in size until it hits the bottom.

That is what is happening today. The price of gold has dropped another 8% (as I write) to $1358/oz. No one knows where it will close today.

Silver has dropped as well, as it usually sympathizes with gold. Silver is down more than 11% to $22.91/oz.

I have long talked about the big banks that have been manipulating the price of gold and silver downward in order to make paper currencies look better. They do this by shorting the market, i.e., selling paper contracts as if they had a lot of gold to sell. But in recent months, their short sales have been in danger of being blown out of the water by a huge rise in the price of gold and silver. It appears that they have finally decided to do something to slam the price way down, so that they can cover their shorts at a profit, and then start buying gold at bargain prices. That way they will make huge profits as the price goes up to $2000 or beyond.

The only real losers here are those who have bought paper instead of the real physical stuff. Those who have bought physical gold and silver have nothing to worry about. In fact, all this does is provide people with a tremendous opportunity to buy at bargain prices. Gary Savage continues,

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So if you are holding, don’t freak out on Monday morning if gold is down again. It almost certainly will be. But if this was an artificial event, and I’m confident it was, then once it’s finished gold is going much, much higher. The big players that created the event don’t do so to sit in a stagnate market. They do so because they know the manipulation has ended and there are big gains ahead as the secular trends resume with a vengeance.”


When we look at how these prices got slammed, first with a false rumor about Cyprus, followed by a huge actual sale by some big investment bank or fund, it seems quite obvious that this is "an artificial event." In other words, the prices will likely go back up as fast as they have gone down, and those who understand the reason for this volatility are likely to make quite a lot of money. Especially the manipulators, who know how to regularly fleece those who buy paper gold. Manipulators also know when the price will go back up, because they are the cause of such volatility in the first place, so they will make money both ways, first when the market goes down, and then when the market goes up.

There were astute people who predicted this very thing over the past few years. They said this would happen just before the end, when the price of gold would rise to $5000 and silver to $200. Perhaps we are nearing that end.

I have believed for many years that when the price of silver shoots past $50/oz, it will mark the prophetic end of head of gold and the conquest by the arms of silver. This present volatility puts me on alert that we could easily see the price rise from $20 to $50 in a very short period of time. If that happens, it is doubtful if the price of silver will stop at $50. Bargain prices will come to an end at that point, and the global reset will be upon us.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/24/13 02:46 PM

The Silver Shortage
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2013/04-2013/the-silver-shortage/
April 16,

The recent plunge in silver prices seems to be causing a rift between the spot price of silver and the actual price of physical silver. Even though the spot price plunged Friday and Monday, a lot of people have bought a lot of physical silver at bargain prices. The result is that the largest supplier of silver at the COMEX has completely run out of silver.

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/comment/297296#comment-297296

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*BREAKING
CNT, one of the largest wholesale suppliers in the US, who is the supplier of gold blanks to the US Mint for Gold Eagles, and is a registered COMEX depository, HAS JUST SOLD OUT OF ALL PHYSICAL SILVER!!!

In the face of an EPIC TSUNAMI of gold and silver sales today as the cartel hammered the price of silver down over 11%, and off $6 from Friday’s open, we have just been informed at SDBullion upon trying to place a large inventory order that CNT is SOLD OUT OF EVERY LAST OUNCE OF PHYSICAL SILVER!!!

At the same time, a huge open pit silver mine in Utah has experienced a landslide, closing operations for months.

http://silverdoctors.com/10-of-us-annual-silver-supply-just-vaporized/

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5 million ounces of annual silver supply and 500,000 ounces of annual gold supply have just been vaporized landslided. Rio Tinto’s Kennecott mine in Utah- the US’ 2nd largest silver mine and world’s largest copper mine has just suffered a massive landslide which will likely shut down production at the mine for years as upwards of 1 billion tons of dirt and ore have collapsed into the basin.

16% of US annual silver production just vanished. Good thing there aren’t any physical supply issues in silver currently or anything…
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/24/13 02:49 PM

Has the endgame begun?
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2013/04-2013/has-the-endgame-begun/
April 23, 2013

"The recent drop in silver and gold prices have resulted in a tremendous increase in demand for physical metal. Under normal circumstances, high demand would bring higher prices, but these are not normal circumstances. This is a case of big banks helping the Fed manipulate the price of gold and silver downward in order to make the dollar look stronger.

But the underlying problem is that the dollar is weak and getting weaker each month as the Fed creates another $85 billion out of nothing. That’s just the figure that they admit openly.

It may be that the price of metals will continue to drop. Some say the price of gold may drop to $1000 or even lower. But keep in mind that this is only the price of a piece of paper or an electronic entry. It is not the price of actual gold, unless a seller is really willing to part with his physical gold for that price.

Premiums are getting higher and higher. A premium is the difference between the spot price and the actual price that the buyer has to pay from a dealer. I remember back in 2003, when I first bought some silver, the premium was just 15 cents. Then it was 50 cents. Then a dollar. Two weeks ago it was $3.00 at the same coin dealer. But now, the dealer tells me that his big supplier is charging an $8 premium, and, of course, the dealer has to charge a few dollars himself to make a profit. That is an $11 premium right now.

This is confirmed here:

http://investmentwatchblog.com/physical-gold-silver-shortages-are-accelerating-premiums-exploding/

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“Gold and Silver shortages are increasing. However the current spot for paper silver is around $23USD. However, PREMIUMS are at $10 or higher per coin.

“The paper market price and the physical price are starting to decouple. This is going to be fun to watch.

“Hang onto your physical if you have any as this circus is just getting started. These are ebay links. My coin shop in my town does not have any of these coins available at the moment.”

Why? It is because in spite of the drop in the spot price, silver is becoming so scarce that it is difficult to find any for sale any more. A friend of mine recently bought a box of silver eagles, and the dealer told him that it was the last box of silver eagles on the West Coast.

Another man I know placed an order for 60 silver eagles, but was told that it might take weeks to get the order filled. In fact, he said, ALL FORMS OF SILVER were now in tight supply, and any orders would be delayed indefinitely.

This is why premiums are going through the roof. It is because the supply of silver is so tight.

And yet the price of silver continues to go down??? Can you smell Manipulation?

Read more here:

http://investmentwatchblog.com/physical-...36QPIfVdFpTt.99

Even gold, pricey as it is, is in short supply. I reported a few weeks ago that AMRO, the huge European bank, has now refused to give people gold that they had ordered by contract. Before that, when Germany wanted the Fed to ship them their gold that the Fed had been storing for them, they were told that it would be shipped over a period of seven years.

Seven years? There is no reason for that--unless the Fed no longer has it in the vault.

Other people are now reporting the same. Jim Sinclair just reported that a friend of his wanted his gold where he had been storing it in a large Swiss bank. The bank refused to give it to him, telling him he had to take cash instead. Cash? The whole idea behind owning gold is to get it out of cash. In essence, the bank was demanding that the gold owner sell his told to the bank! For cash. At the manipulated low price. Sinclair continued:
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/4/23_Sinclair_-_Swiss_Bank_Just_Refused_To_Give_My_Friend_His_Gold.html
Originally Posted By: Sinclair
“The vicious and blatant manipulation of the gold price (lower) via paper, on Friday and on Monday, may very well be the biggest mistake that the manipulators ever conceived of. I firmly believe it revealed that the price of gold has nothing to do with gold itself.

But I would add that if in fact the physical demand remains at these levels or even increases as the price of gold rises, I believe that the warehouses for the exchanges will be so significantly drawn down that it will force cash settlement.

The bottom line here is the paper market for gold may have just lit itself on fire, and served to burn the manipulators’ houses to the ground. You’ve heard of the phrase, ‘The emperor has no clothes.’ Well, this is infinitely worse because it is finally being revealed that the paper market for gold, in fact, has no gold.”

India and China are buying gold as fast as they can. If anyone is willing to sell them gold at such ridiculous prices, they are ready buyers. China has already imported 1000 tons of gold this year. Gold shops in India are having a difficult time keeping up with demand.

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/4/22_Maguire_-_Gold_Deliveries_Into_China_Soar_To_1,000_Tons.html

Given the fact that the silver/gold manipulators can sell virtually any quantity that they wish—in the form of paper contracts—they can always overwhelm every seller and drive the spot price down to zero. They are too big to fail in this way, too. But all they are really doing is separating the industry into two distinct markets: the paper market and the physical market. At some point the paper market will be irrelevant to the physical market.

In other words, if the spot price of gold were to go down to zero, the dealers would simply demand a $2000 premium for any gold that they sell.

If the spot price for silver went down to zero, the dealers would just have a $30 premium (or more) on any sale of physical silver. Rising premiums are simply filling in the price gap.

Some people think the price will continue to drop, and so they are going to wait a few more weeks to buy physical silver or gold. They will probably discover that there is no available silver or gold anywhere near that price. The best they can do is go online and purchase paper contracts, which will then have to be cashed out in US dollars when they come due. Anyone can speculate with paper products, but if you actually want something real, you will have to get it while it is available.

It looks to me like this is the final mother-of-all-manipulations taking place just before the actual price of metal goes through the roof, as the dollar value collapses.

...Two years ago, when silver hit $49.84/oz, the manipulators panicked and raised the margin requirements for those purchasing silver. This meant that buyers were put at a disadvantage over the sellers, and this brought the price back down to the $30 range.

That was a close call, and it shows that the bankers themselves are afraid of crossing the $50 mark for silver. Two years ago, they were able to manipulate the price of real silver by manipulating the price of paper contracts. This time around, it appears that their strategy is failing. Fewer and fewer dealers are willing to part with their real silver for under $30, and as the price drops, the premiums continue to rise.

In other words, the more the price drops, the more it stays the same.

The effect is that the prices end up remaining fairly stable for real silver. Only the paper contracts are dropping in value, because the big manipulators are pretending to sell what they don’t have, while buyers are now discovering that their contracts can only be fulfilled in more US dollars.

When every trader comes to see this, the market will close. The sellers will have nothing to sell, and the buyers will cease to pay gold prices for toilet paper.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/24/13 04:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
I have believed for many years that when the price of silver shoots past $50/oz, it will mark the prophetic end of head of gold and the conquest by the arms of silver. This present volatility puts me on alert that we could easily see the price rise from $20 to $50 in a very short period of time. If that happens, it is doubtful if the price of silver will stop at $50. Bargain prices will come to an end at that point, and the global reset will be upon us.

Really?

I thought you were promoting gold as the ultimate investment rather than as one which would end. Now it's silver. What will it be next?

This just goes to show everyone that investing in pavement is a very very bad idea. It has no real worth.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/27/13 03:58 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
I have believed for many years that when the price of silver shoots past $50/oz, it will mark the prophetic end of head of gold and the conquest by the arms of silver. This present volatility puts me on alert that we could easily see the price rise from $20 to $50 in a very short period of time. If that happens, it is doubtful if the price of silver will stop at $50. Bargain prices will come to an end at that point, and the global reset will be upon us.

Really?

I thought you were promoting gold as the ultimate investment rather than as one which would end. Now it's silver. What will it be next?

This just goes to show everyone that investing in pavement is a very very bad idea. It has no real worth.

I'm not understanding your comment despite I understand clearly your intend is only malecious.

The quote above is Stephen Jones' quote. That's his personal revelation(not mine) that once silver reaches the spot quote of $50(Biblical numeral equivalence of Jubilee) then the Lord will correlate that with the fall of the current Babylonian empire. I do not know if this will happen or not as I haven't received any personal revelation of that, so time will tell if Stephen revelation source was the Lord or a product of his own imagination.

Regarding his report of the current financial turmoil is backed with news links and events that is taking place now. I have seen these articles and others myself in the financial and geopolitical news website that I visit daily. So I can attest that his news correlates with the news I've read. I like Stephen's perspective as he views these events with an understanding of the Law and the Prophets by which others do not give.

This growing season, I will find very little time for me to write post. So re-posting news clips or others perspectives like Stephen financial news saved me some time to write my own.
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I thought you were promoting gold as the ultimate investment rather than as one which would end. Now it's silver. What will it be next?

I'm not promoting buying gold or silver...I'm giving a heads up to those who can hear and have savings and retirement funds to re-invest their savings into something that will retain its value before the current Babylonian system crashes completly. Gold or silver is one way to retain your savings value or it can be buying land or whatever the Lord moves you to do. Now with what happened to the market the last 2 weeks, gold and silver is currently very scarce and hard to find in quantity. So alternative investment sources might be the other option left.

The main idea is Babylon is falling...get out of her!. Of course we know of this with an spiritual dimension however it also has an economical application too!

Regardless if you have any savings, or have lossed all your savings, .... there's nothing to fret about for the next kingdom [the Everlasting Stone Kingdom that will grow to cover the whole earth of Daniel 2 ] will be far superior to any of the ancient beastly kingdoms. For sure those that has lost much money during the crash will have to deal with that lost and the fact they ignored all the signs arounds, but once they overcome this bitterness they will be able to rejoice with the others.

This discussion goal is to keep track of the news events of the fall of the current Economical System aka "Mystery Babylon" and the restructuring of the new system.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/27/13 05:58 PM

JPMorgan's Eligible Gold Plummets 65% In 24 Hours To All Time Low
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-25/jpmorgans-eligible-gold-plummets-65-24-hours-all-time-low
by Tyler Durden 04/25/2013

" We are confident that in the aftermath of our article from last night "Just What Is Going On With The Gold In JPMorgan's Vault?" in which we showed the absolute devastation of "eligible" (aka commercial) gold warehoused in JPM's vault just over the Manhattan bedrock at 1 Chase Manhattan Place (and also in the entire Comex vault network in the past month), we were not the only ones checking every five minutes for the Comex gold depository update for April 25. Moments ago we finally got it, and it's a doozy. Because in just the past 24 hours, from April 24 to April 25, according to the Comex, JPM's eligible gold plunged from 402.4K ounces to just 141.6K ounces, a drop of 65% in 24 hours,and the lowest amount of eligible gold held at the vault on record, since its reopening in October 2010!

Everyone has seen what a run on the bank looks like. Below is perhaps the best chart of what a "run on the vault" is.


The absolute collapse in JPM's eligible gold inventory, means total Comex eligible gold has fallen to just 5.8 million ounces, half of what it was in early 2011, and back to levels last seen in March 2009.

So, once again, just like last night, we ask the same questions which are even more critical today than they were 24 hours ago:

1.What happened to the commercial gold vaulted with JPM, and what was the reason for the historic drawdown?
2.Gold, unlike fiat, is not created out of thin air, nor can it be shred or deleted. Where did the gold leaving the JPM warehouse end up (especially since registered JPM and total Comex gold has been relatively flat over the same period)?
3.Did any of this gold make its way across the street, and end up at the vault of the building located at 33 Liberty street?
4.What happens if and/or when the JPM vault is empty of commercial gold, and JPM receives a delivery notice?

Incidentally, JPM now has just under a paltry 5 tons of eligible gold left in storage. We hope this is also the maximum exposure it faces for imminent delivery requests, because if tomorrow it receives withdrawal requests for 141,581.5 ounces +1, then things get really interesting."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/27/13 06:08 PM

Former CME CEO Refused Physical Delivery for 2 Gold Contracts!
http://silverdoctors.com/former-cme-ceo-refused-physical-delivery-for-2-gold-contracts/

"Signs of extreme physical tightness in the gold and silver markets continue to intensify, with reports of banks and firms refusing their customers physical delivery of their own bullion increasing nearly by the hour.
The latest report comes from the CME’s former CEO Leo Mahlamed, who reportedly was refused delivery of 2 gold contracts Tuesday!

Mahlamed attempted to stand for delivery of 2 April gold contracts (a measly 200 oz), and according to reports from the floor, the CME reportedly refused to physically deliver 200 oz of gold to its former CEO, and would only provide Mahlamed a warehouse receipt!

Mahlamed is reportedly a CURRENT CME Board Member and Chairman Emeritus of the CME, and was the CME’s CEO from 1969-1993, yet the exchange cannot come up with a measly 200 oz of gold to satisfy the delivery requests of one of it’s own!"
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/27/13 06:18 PM

Jim Sinclair: The Big Dirty Secret is Out: There is No Gold!
http://silverdoctors.com/jim-sinclair-the-big-dirty-secret-is-out-there-is-no-gold/
"Legendary gold trader Jim Sinclair sent an email alert to subscribers last night, stating that the rig (gold manipulation) is up, and that the big dirty secret is out that there is no physical gold in volume.

Sinclair states that the biggest moves on a percentage basis for gold and gold stocks has just begun, and provides a formula for profits in the gold sector here and now:
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The Rig Is Up
Posted

April 25th, 2013
by Jim Sinclair & filed under General Editorial.

My Dear Friends,

Thanks to the revelation brought to the world regarding the paper gold fraud, certain gold shares will now advance by many hundred percents. Some are likely ten baggers like in the 1980s.

Good growing intermediate tier producing gold shares will lead gold majors, gold and all equities now to new highs in its own unprecedented bull market as the successful short of gold share hedge funds sitting with huge shorts have become complacent. There is a new definition to the right gold companies. They are the holders of the real physical supply.

The biggest move in gold shares in the 1968 to 1980 gold market was after gold broke from $887.50 to $449. The recovery from $449 to $750 witnessed the gold shares moving up by many hundreds of percents. The same is going to happen now because there is no significant above ground supply of gold. It has been stolen or purchased over the past many years.

The big dirty secret is out. There is no gold.

The formula for profits in gold shares in order of significance are:

1. Mid tier producers or those moving into that position.
2. Located out of the reach of North America or Euroland.
3. Strict control of overhead.
4. Huge comfortable short positions.

If true as David C says, the RIG IS UP.

Keep in mind that the repository of physical gold is the intermediate sized producer with low production costs and run tight ships overhead wise. Something other than the way colonialist majors are run with no attention to the shareholder or their host countries.

Physical gold unimpeded by the paper scam can trade at prices that will set your hair on fire.

Sincerely,
Jim

email Link : http://www.stockhouse.com/bullboards/mes...mp;pd=0&r=0
Read more at http://www.stockhouse.com/bullboards/mes...6Smu4JuFJ6X7.99
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/27/13 06:34 PM

My Comment : Matt Taibbi is a renown well respected author and journalist reporting on politics, media and finance. That's the first I've read from him identifying the Rothchild as the main entity controlling the world today and sees them now as an international conspirator.

Everything Is Rigged: The Biggest Price-Fixing Scandal EverThe Illuminati were amateurs. The second huge financial scandal of the year reveals the real international conspiracy: There's no price the big banks can't fixRead more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/new...5#ixzz2Rg4LxUna

By Matt Taibbi
April 25, 2013 1:00 PM ET

"Conspiracy theorists of the world, believers in the hidden hands of the Rothschilds and the Masons and the Illuminati, we skeptics owe you an apology. You were right. The players may be a little different, but your basic premise is correct: The world is a rigged game. We found this out in recent months, when a series of related corruption stories spilled out of the financial sector, suggesting the world's largest banks may be fixing the prices of, well, just about everything.

You may have heard of the Libor scandal, in which at least three – and perhaps as many as 16 – of the name-brand too-big-to-fail banks have been manipulating global interest rates, in the process messing around with the prices of upward of $500 trillion (that's trillion, with a "t") worth of financial instruments. When that sprawling con burst into public view last year, it was easily the biggest financial scandal in history – MIT professor Andrew Lo even said it "dwarfs by orders of magnitude any financial scam in the history of markets."

That was bad enough, but now Libor may have a twin brother. Word has leaked out that the London-based firm ICAP, the world's largest broker of interest-rate swaps, is being investigated by American authorities for behavior that sounds eerily reminiscent of the Libor mess. Regulators are looking into whether or not a small group of brokers at ICAP may have worked with up to 15 of the world's largest banks to manipulate ISDAfix, a benchmark number used around the world to calculate the prices of interest-rate swaps.

Interest-rate swaps are a tool used by big cities, major corporations and sovereign governments to manage their debt, and the scale of their use is almost unimaginably massive. It's about a $379 trillion market, meaning that any manipulation would affect a pile of assets about 100 times the size of the United States federal budget.

It should surprise no one that among the players implicated in this scheme to fix the prices of interest-rate swaps are the same megabanks – including Barclays, UBS, Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase and the Royal Bank of Scotland – that serve on the Libor panel that sets global interest rates. In fact, in recent years many of these banks have already paid multimillion-dollar settlements for anti-competitive manipulation of one form or another (in addition to Libor, some were caught up in an anti-competitive scheme, detailed in Rolling Stone last year, to rig municipal-debt service auctions). Though the jumble of financial acronyms sounds like gibberish to the layperson, the fact that there may now be price-fixing scandals involving both Libor and ISDAfix suggests a single, giant mushrooming conspiracy of collusion and price-fixing hovering under the ostensibly competitive veneer of Wall Street culture.

The Scam Wall Street Learned From the Mafia

Why? Because Libor already affects the prices of interest-rate swaps, making this a manipulation-on-manipulation situation. If the allegations prove to be right, that will mean that swap customers have been paying for two different layers of price-fixing corruption. If you can imagine paying 20 bucks for a crappy PB&J because some evil cabal of agribusiness companies colluded to fix the prices of both peanuts and peanut butter, you come close to grasping the lunacy of financial markets where both interest rates and interest-rate swaps are being manipulated at the same time, often by the same banks.

"It's a double conspiracy," says an amazed Michael Greenberger, a former director of the trading and markets division at the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and now a professor at the University of Maryland. "It's the height of criminality."

The bad news didn't stop with swaps and interest rates. In March, it also came out that two regulators – the CFTC here in the U.S. and the Madrid-based International Organization of Securities Commissions – were spurred by the Libor revelations to investigate the possibility of collusive manipulation of gold and silver prices. "Given the clubby manipulation efforts we saw in Libor benchmarks, I assume other benchmarks – many other benchmarks – are legit areas of inquiry," CFTC Commissioner Bart Chilton said.

But the biggest shock came out of a federal courtroom at the end of March – though if you follow these matters closely, it may not have been so shocking at all – when a landmark class-action civil lawsuit against the banks for Libor-related offenses was dismissed. In that case, a federal judge accepted the banker-defendants' incredible argument: If cities and towns and other investors lost money because of Libor manipulation, that was their own fault for ever thinking the banks were competing in the first place.

"A farce," was one antitrust lawyer's response to the eyebrow-raising dismissal.

"Incredible," says Sylvia Sokol, an attorney for Constantine Cannon, a firm that specializes in antitrust cases.

All of these stories collectively pointed to the same thing: These banks, which already possess enormous power just by virtue of their financial holdings – in the United States, the top six banks, many of them the same names you see on the Libor and ISDAfix panels, own assets equivalent to 60 percent of the nation's GDP – are beginning to realize the awesome possibilities for increased profit and political might that would come with colluding instead of competing. Moreover, it's increasingly clear that both the criminal justice system and the civil courts may be impotent to stop them, even when they do get caught working together to game the system.

If true, that would leave us living in an era of undisguised, real-world conspiracy, in which the prices of currencies, commodities like gold and silver, even interest rates and the value of money itself, can be and may already have been dictated from above. And those who are doing it can get away with it. Forget the Illuminati – this is the real thing, and it's no secret. You can stare right at it, anytime you want.

The banks found a loophole, a basic flaw in the machine. Across the financial system, there are places where prices or official indices are set based upon unverified data sent in by private banks and financial companies. In other words, we gave the players with incentives to game the system institutional roles in the economic infrastructure.

Libor, which measures the prices banks charge one another to borrow money, is a perfect example, not only of this basic flaw in the price-setting system but of the weakness in the regulatory framework supposedly policing it. Couple a voluntary reporting scheme with too-big-to-fail status and a revolving-door legal system, and what you get is unstoppable corruption.

Every morning, 18 of the world's biggest banks submit data to an office in London about how much they believe they would have to pay to borrow from other banks. The 18 banks together are called the "Libor panel," and when all of these data from all 18 panelist banks are collected, the numbers are averaged out. What emerges, every morning at 11:30 London time, are the daily Libor figures.

Banks submit numbers about borrowing in 10 different currencies across 15 different time periods, e.g., loans as short as one day and as long as one year. This mountain of bank-submitted data is used every day to create benchmark rates that affect the prices of everything from credit cards to mortgages to currencies to commercial loans (both short- and long-term) to swaps.

Gangster Bankers Broke Every Law in the Book

Dating back perhaps as far as the early Nineties, traders and others inside these banks were sometimes calling up the company geeks responsible for submitting the daily Libor numbers (the "Libor submitters") and asking them to fudge the numbers. Usually, the gimmick was the trader had made a bet on something – a swap, currencies, something – and he wanted the Libor submitter to make the numbers look lower (or, occasionally, higher) to help his bet pay off.

Famously, one Barclays trader monkeyed with Libor submissions in exchange for a bottle of Bollinger champagne, but in some cases, it was even lamer than that. This is from an exchange between a trader and a Libor submitter at the Royal Bank of Scotland:

SWISS FRANC TRADER: can u put 6m swiss libor in low pls?...
PRIMARY SUBMITTER: Whats it worth
SWSISS FRANC TRADER: ive got some sushi rolls from yesterday?...
PRIMARY SUBMITTER: ok low 6m, just for u
SWISS FRANC TRADER: wooooooohooooooo. . . thatd be awesome

Screwing around with world interest rates that affect billions of people in exchange for day-old sushi – it's hard to imagine an image that better captures the moral insanity of the modern financial-services sector.

Hundreds of similar exchanges were uncovered when regulators like Britain's Financial Services Authority and the U.S. Justice Department started burrowing into the befouled entrails of Libor. The documentary evidence of anti-competitive manipulation they found was so overwhelming that, to read it, one almost becomes embarrassed for the banks. "It's just amazing how Libor fixing can make you that much money," chirped one yen trader. "Pure manipulation going on," wrote another.

Yet despite so many instances of at least attempted manipulation, the banks mostly skated. Barclays got off with a relatively minor fine in the $450 million range, UBS was stuck with $1.5 billion in penalties, and RBS was forced to give up $615 million. Apart from a few low-level flunkies overseas, no individual involved in this scam that impacted nearly everyone in the industrialized world was even threatened with criminal prosecution.

Two of America's top law-enforcement officials, Attorney General Eric Holder and former Justice Department Criminal Division chief Lanny Breuer, confessed that it's dangerous to prosecute offending banks because they are simply too big. Making arrests, they say, might lead to "collateral consequences" in the economy.

The relatively small sums of money extracted in these settlements did not go toward reparations for the cities, towns and other victims who lost money due to Libor manipulation. Instead, it flowed mindlessly into government coffers. So it was left to towns and cities like Baltimore (which lost money due to fluctuations in their municipal investments caused by Libor movements), pensions like the New Britain, Connecticut, Firefighters' and Police Benefit Fund, and other foundations – and even individuals (billionaire real-estate developer Sheldon Solow, who filed his own suit in February, claims that his company lost $450 million because of Libor manipulation) – to sue the banks for damages.

One of the biggest Libor suits was proceeding on schedule when, early in March, an army of superstar lawyers working on behalf of the banks descended upon federal judge Naomi Buchwald in the Southern District of New York to argue an extraordinary motion to dismiss. The banks' legal dream team drew from heavyweight Beltway-connected firms like Boies Schiller (you remember David Boies represented Al Gore), Davis Polk (home of top ex-regulators like former SEC enforcement chief Linda Thomsen) and Covington & Burling, the onetime private-practice home of both Holder and Breuer.

The presence of Covington & Burling in the suit – representing, of all companies, Citigroup, the former employer of current Treasury Secretary Jack Lew – was particularly galling. Right as the Libor case was being dismissed, the firm had hired none other than Lanny Breuer, the same Lanny Breuer who, just a few months before, was the assistant attorney general who had balked at criminally prosecuting UBS over Libor because, he said, "Our goal here is not to destroy a major financial institution."

In any case, this all-star squad of white-shoe lawyers came before Buchwald and made the mother of all audacious arguments. Robert Wise of Davis Polk, representing Bank of America, told Buchwald that the banks could not possibly be guilty of anti- competitive collusion because nobody ever said that the creation of Libor was competitive. "It is essential to our argument that this is not a competitive process," he said. "The banks do not compete with one another in the submission of Libor."

If you squint incredibly hard and look at the issue through a mirror, maybe while standing on your head, you can sort of see what Wise is saying. In a very theoretical, technical sense, the actual process by which banks submit Libor data – 18 geeks sending numbers to the British Bankers' Association offices in London once every morning – is not competitive per se.

But these numbers are supposed to reflect interbank-loan prices derived in a real, competitive market. Saying the Libor submission process is not competitive is sort of like pointing out that bank robbers obeyed the speed limit on the way to the heist. It's the silliest kind of legal sophistry.

But Wise eventually outdid even that argument, essentially saying that while the banks may have lied to or cheated their customers, they weren't guilty of the particular crime of antitrust collusion. This is like the old joke about the lawyer who gets up in court and claims his client had to be innocent, because his client was committing a crime in a different state at the time of the offense.

"The plaintiffs, I believe, are confusing a claim of being perhaps deceived," he said, "with a claim for harm to competition."

Judge Buchwald swallowed this lunatic argument whole and dismissed most of the case. Libor, she said, was a "cooperative endeavor" that was "never intended to be competitive." Her decision "does not reflect the reality of this business, where all of these banks were acting as competitors throughout the process," said the antitrust lawyer Sokol. Buchwald made this ruling despite the fact that both the U.S. and British governments had already settled with three banks for billions of dollars for improper manipulation, manipulation that these companies admitted to in their settlements.

Michael Hausfeld of Hausfeld LLP, one of the lead lawyers for the plaintiffs in this Libor suit, declined to comment specifically on the dismissal. But he did talk about the significance of the Libor case and other manipulation cases now in the pipeline.

"It's now evident that there is a ubiquitous culture among the banks to collude and cheat their customers as many times as they can in as many forms as they can conceive," he said. "And that's not just surmising. This is just based upon what they've been caught at."

Greenberger says the lack of serious consequences for the Libor scandal has only made other kinds of manipulation more inevitable. "There's no therapy like sending those who are used to wearing Gucci shoes to jail," he says. "But when the attorney general says, 'I don't want to indict people,' it's the Wild West. There's no law."

The problem is, a number of markets feature the same infrastructural weakness that failed in the Libor mess. In the case of interest-rate swaps and the ISDAfix benchmark, the system is very similar to Libor, although the investigation into these markets reportedly focuses on some different types of improprieties.

Though interest-rate swaps are not widely understood outside the finance world, the root concept actually isn't that hard. If you can imagine taking out a variable-rate mortgage and then paying a bank to make your loan payments fixed, you've got the basic idea of an interest-rate swap.

In practice, it might be a country like Greece or a regional government like Jefferson County, Alabama, that borrows money at a variable rate of interest, then later goes to a bank to "swap" that loan to a more predictable fixed rate. In its simplest form, the customer in a swap deal is usually paying a premium for the safety and security of fixed interest rates, while the firm selling the swap is usually betting that it knows more about future movements in interest rates than its customers.

Prices for interest-rate swaps are often based on ISDAfix, which, like Libor, is yet another of these privately calculated benchmarks. ISDAfix's U.S. dollar rates are published every day, at 11:30 a.m. and 3:30 p.m., after a gang of the same usual-suspect megabanks (Bank of America, RBS, Deutsche, JPMorgan Chase, Barclays, etc.) submits information about bids and offers for swaps.

And here's what we know so far: The CFTC has sent subpoenas to ICAP and to as many as 15 of those member banks, and plans to interview about a dozen ICAP employees from the company's office in Jersey City, New Jersey. Moreover, the International Swaps and Derivatives Association, or ISDA, which works together with ICAP (for U.S. dollar transactions) and Thomson Reuters to compute the ISDAfix benchmark, has hired the consulting firm Oliver Wyman to review the process by which ISDAfix is calculated. Oliver Wyman is the same company that the British Bankers' Association hired to review the Libor submission process after that scandal broke last year. The upshot of all of this is that it looks very much like ISDAfix could be Libor all over again.

"It's obviously reminiscent of the Libor manipulation issue," Darrell Duffie, a finance professor at Stanford University, told reporters. "People may have been naive that simply reporting these rates was enough to avoid manipulation."

And just like in Libor, the potential losers in an interest-rate-swap manipulation scandal would be the same sad-sack collection of cities, towns, companies and other nonbank entities that have no way of knowing if they're paying the real price for swaps or a price being manipulated by bank insiders for profit. Moreover, ISDAfix is not only used to calculate prices for interest-rate swaps, it's also used to set values for about $550 billion worth of bonds tied to commercial real estate, and also affects the payouts on some state-pension annuities.

So although it's not quite as widespread as Libor, ISDAfix is sufficiently power-jammed into the world financial infrastructure that any manipulation of the rate would be catastrophic – and a huge class of victims that could include everyone from state pensioners to big cities to wealthy investors in structured notes would have no idea they were being robbed.

"How is some municipality in Cleveland or wherever going to know if it's getting ripped off?" asks Michael Masters of Masters Capital Management, a fund manager who has long been an advocate of greater transparency in the derivatives world. "The answer is, they won't know."

Worse still, the CFTC investigation apparently isn't limited to possible manipulation of swap prices by monkeying around with ISDAfix. According to reports, the commission is also looking at whether or not employees at ICAP may have intentionally delayed publication of swap prices, which in theory could give someone (bankers, cough, cough) a chance to trade ahead of the information.

Swap prices are published when ICAP employees manually enter the data on a computer screen called "19901." Some 6,000 customers subscribe to a service that allows them to access the data appearing on the 19901 screen.

The key here is that unlike a more transparent, regulated market like the New York Stock Exchange, where the results of stock trades are computed more or less instantly and everyone in theory can immediately see the impact of trading on the prices of stocks, in the swap market the whole world is dependent upon a handful of brokers quickly and honestly entering data about trades by hand into a computer terminal.

Any delay in entering price data would provide the banks involved in the transactions with a rare opportunity to trade ahead of the information. One way to imagine it would be to picture a racetrack where a giant curtain is pulled over the track as the horses come down the stretch – and the gallery is only told two minutes later which horse actually won. Anyone on the right side of the curtain could make a lot of smart bets before the audience saw the results of the race.

At ICAP, the interest-rate swap desk, and the 19901 screen, were reportedly controlled by a small group of 20 or so brokers, some of whom were making millions of dollars. These brokers made so much money for themselves the unit was nicknamed "Treasure Island."

Already, there are some reports that brokers of Treasure Island did create such intentional delays. Bloomberg interviewed a former broker who claims that he watched ICAP brokers delay the reporting of swap prices. "That allows dealers to tell the brokers to delay putting trades into the system instead of in real time," Bloomberg wrote, noting the former broker had "witnessed such activity firsthand." An ICAP spokesman has no comment on the story, though the company has released a statement saying that it is "cooperating" with the CFTC's inquiry and that it "maintains policies that prohibit" the improper behavior alleged in news reports.

The idea that prices in a $379 trillion market could be dependent on a desk of about 20 guys in New Jersey should tell you a lot about the absurdity of our financial infrastructure. The whole thing, in fact, has a darkly comic element to it. "It's almost hilarious in the irony," says David Frenk, director of research for Better Markets, a financial-reform advocacy group, "that they called it ISDAfix."

After scandals involving libor and, perhaps, ISDAfix, the question that should have everyone freaked out is this: What other markets out there carry the same potential for manipulation? The answer to that question is far from reassuring, because the potential is almost everywhere. From gold to gas to swaps to interest rates, prices all over the world are dependent upon little private cabals of cigar-chomping insiders we're forced to trust.

"In all the over-the-counter markets, you don't really have pricing except by a bunch of guys getting together," Masters notes glumly.

That includes the markets for gold (where prices are set by five banks in a Libor-ish teleconferencing process that, ironically, was created in part by N M Rothschild & Sons) and silver (whose price is set by just three banks), as well as benchmark rates in numerous other commodities – jet fuel, diesel, electric power, coal, you name it. The problem in each of these markets is the same: We all have to rely upon the honesty of companies like Barclays (already caught and fined $453 million for rigging Libor) or JPMorgan Chase (paid a $228 million settlement for rigging municipal-bond auctions) or UBS (fined a collective $1.66 billion for both muni-bond rigging and Libor manipulation) to faithfully report the real prices of things like interest rates, swaps, currencies and commodities.

All of these benchmarks based on voluntary reporting are now being looked at by regulators around the world, and God knows what they'll find. The European Federation of Financial Services Users wrote in an official EU survey last summer that all of these systems are ripe targets for manipulation. "In general," it wrote, "those markets which are based on non-attested, voluntary submission of data from agents whose benefits depend on such benchmarks are especially vulnerable of market abuse and distortion."

Translation: When prices are set by companies that can profit by manipulating them, we're fucked.

"You name it," says Frenk. "Any of these benchmarks is a possibility for corruption."

The only reason this problem has not received the attention it deserves is because the scale of it is so enormous that ordinary people simply cannot see it. It's not just stealing by reaching a hand into your pocket and taking out money, but stealing in which banks can hit a few keystrokes and magically make whatever's in your pocket worth less. This is corruption at the molecular level of the economy, Space Age stealing – and it's only just coming into view."

This story is from the May 9th, 2013 issue of Rolling Stone.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/08/13 11:14 PM

World Bank Whistle-blower: “Precious Metals To Serve As An Underpinning For Paper Currencies”

http://silverdoctors.com/world-bank-whis...per-currencies/

I had the opportunity yesterday to speak with one of the western world’s most courageous and astute women, Karen Hudes, Former Senior Counsel to the World Bank—now turned whistle-blower.

It was a powerful conversation, as Karen spent 20 years with the World Bank as an attorney and economist, before being “let-go” after reporting internal fraud and corruption.

During the interview Karen indicated that the world is rapidly changing, with western power structures breaking down, economic & political influence gravitating to BRICs nations, all amid a pending currency transition which will highly favor precious metals. Hudes stated:
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“All of the countries of the world are going to allow precious metals to serve as currency, and this will be an underpinning for paper currency, as we’ll have both systems at the same time.”


Starting out by discussing the shocking centralized power she witnessed while working at the World Bank, Karen explained that,
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“A study done by three [Swiss] systems analysts who used mathematical modeling [shows] how the [world's] 43,000 transnational corporations were being controlled through interlocking corporate directorates. There’s a group of 147 companies, most of them are financial institutions, and what they’ve done, is through the interlocking directorates, they control 40% of the net worth of these [43k] companies, and 60% of their earnings…so that group has been using the presidency of the World Bank as kind of a White to dominate the world—that’s [now] finished.”

A major shock to that centralized power base, according to Karen, was the recent move by BRICs nations leaders to bypass the World Bank for their financing needs, by establishing their own development bank.
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“As the BRICs [nations] economic power grows,” she explained, “they’re not going to be strangled anymore through the grabbing [of] their resources…So their decision to start their own development bank was their way of letting [world] governments know…that its time to end this corruption.”

Major moves toward monetary independence are also being made by growing numbers of U.S. states, Karen added. She explained that,
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“The states are starting to have legislation recognizing gold and silver bullion as legal currency. This is [also] a very strong signal the states are sending to the federal government, that the time to get serious about ending the corruption in the financial system is now here.”

When asked her thoughts on what this all means for the world monetary system, Karen said,
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“What’s going to happen, is we’re going to have all the countries of the world, sit down and figure out what’s going to be the best, most orderly transition from the current system that we have, [which has] profound imbalance and unsustainable deficits…[this change] is going to happen as each country makes its preference known, because the system we have now is not transparent, and the biggest change [in the new system], is that there’s going to be transparency.”


That transparency may be found through a gold-backed currency system, Karen noted, as,
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“All of the countries of the world are going to allow precious metals to serve as currency, and this will be an underpinning for paper currency, [as] we’ll have both systems at the same time. This is my guess, as I mentioned—I am an economist.”

As a final comment speaking towards her difficult journey as a World Bank whistle-blower, Karen said,
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“I’ve been struggling now for years, to tell the American public what’s [been] going on. I haven’t gotten through, because this [financial] group has bought up the press and has been spreading disinformation systematically. That undermines the whole point of a democracy. How can voters vote without an informed opinion, without the information that they’re entitled too? So this strangle-hold on information is going to end in very short order.”
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This was a powerful interview conducted with a great American patriot and honorable world citizen. Karen is setting an example for the history books, and her interview is required listening for global thinkers and market students.

To listen to the interview, left click the following link and/or right click and “save target as” or “save link as” to to your desktop:

>>Interview with Karen Hudes (MP3)
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/15/13 01:49 PM

Russia's Plan For The BRICS To Dismantle The Dollar System
http://www.testosteronepit.com/home/2013...lar-system.html
Contributed by Valentin Mândrăşescu, Editor of Reality Check @ The Voice of Russia. Former commodity trader, economist, journalist.

"The status of the US dollar as the world reserve currency gives the US a number of advantages over other countries. The world’s most important commodities are priced and traded in dollars, even if most of these commodities are not produced in the US. The fact that the world’s financial system is based on the dollar allows the Federal Reserve to export inflation to other countries, while the Federal Government runs a huge deficit with impunity.

So far, only China has been active in challenging the dollar supremacy. The internationalization of the yuan is an official priority of Chinese leaders. Currency swap agreements with major trade partners like Brazil, France, or Australia are small but important steps in the Chinese strategy. Changing the world financial system is not an easy task and certainly a very challenging undertaking for China. Now, it seems that Beijing has found an ally in the Kremlin. And there appears to be a consensus between the BRICS countries: the urgent necessity to dismantle the dollar system.

A week before the recent BRICS summit in Durban, the Kremlin administration has silently produced a document which describes the Russian strategy in the context of BRICS cooperation. The document makes for a fascinating read for anyone brave enough to plow through the dense Russian legalese. The strategy has been designed in the “inner circle” of Vladimir Putin’s team, so it is safe to assume that it represents the official view on the BRICS future.

In Russia, politics are Byzantine; the fact that the Kremlin decided not to hide the document or leak it to a chosen few journalists, but publish it outright is a very strong signal, a very vocal angry signal directed at the US. A signal that the Western media chose to ignore.

In the recitals section of the document, the authors point out that “there is a common desire of the BRICS partners to reform the outdated global financial and economic framework that doesn’t take into account the growing economic weight of the emerging markets.” Moreover, the Russian strategists view the BRICS as a tool to reform the way the world is being governed. Then the document hammers home its message:

Russia assumes that, given enough political will of the leadership of the BRICS countries to advance their cooperation, this alliance can become one of the key elements of a new system for global governance, primarily in the economic and financial domains.

Move aside New World Order! The BRICS are coming to change the world.

The goals are clear. In the section titled “Strategic goals,” the first point on the BRICS’ agenda is the reform of the world financial system in order to make it “fairer, more stable, and more efficient.” In the later chapters, it is spelled clearly that this “reform” is actually a dismantling of the dollar system.

It is worth noting that the place of this issue in the list of the BRICS’ priorities speaks volumes about its importance. Judging by the order of priorities, depriving the dollar of its status as the world reserve currency is more important than “preventing breaches of sovereignty” (a.k.a. the “Syrian problem”) or “expanding economic cooperation.”

The language used in this document indicates that it has been written or strongly influenced by Sergei Glaziev, the president’s economy advisor, who is known for masterminding the economic aspects of the Eurasian Union between Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. Glaziev has repeatedly accused Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke of starting “a currency war” against the emerging markets. He also believes that Bernanke’s policy will ultimately lead to a military confrontation: “the conservation logic of the current financial and political system leads to a further escalation of military and political tensions, including the start of a major war” (read more).

A whole chapter of the strategy document is dedicated to step-by-step instructions on dismantling the existing global financial system. The list of measures includes:

-Reformation of the world currency system in order to create a representative, stable and predictable system of world reserve currencies;
-Reduction of the risks of destabilization of currency and equity markets linked to massive cross-border flows of capital;
-Increasing the use of national currencies in the trade between BRICS countries;
-Increasing the level of cooperation between BRICS countries in order to promote their interest in the domain of world trade;
-Strengthening the BRICS Exchange Alliance;
-Creating independent rating agencies.

Since the Durban Summit, at least one of those measures has been implemented: RT reported that “China’s Dagong Global Credit Rating agency is to set up the joint venture with US-based Egan-Jones Ratings Co (EJR) and Russia's RusRating JSC to challenge the three major US ratings agencies.” As BRICS countries try to achieve the rest of their stated goals, it remains to be seen if the dollar system survives the joint onslaught of the biggest emerging economies. "

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/18/13 01:46 PM

The National Identity Card aka "Smart Card" System is Mystery(Secret) Babylon's New Global Economic Restructure. Babylon's system is what the BRICS and their allies(180 nations) are working to destroy.

The following article is the implementation of the "Smart Card" System in Nigeria. This same system is also being implemented in Iraq, Ireland, Japan, Sweden, Tailand, India, and other countries.

The Cashless Society Arrives in Africa. The “Multipurpose” Biometric National Identity Smart Card
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-cashles...rt-card/5335292
The Nigerian National Identity Card Policy : http://www.nimc.gov.ng/reports/id_card_policy.pdf

"It was recently announced at the World Economic Forum in Cape Town, South Africa that MasterCard and the Nigerian National Identity Management Commission (NIMC) under the government of Nigeria would form a partnership to distribute a new identity card to every Nigerian citizen. The purpose of the card is to have all Nigerian citizens participate in the financial services sector under the control of MasterCard, a multinational financial services corporation headquartered in New York. MasterCard’s press release ‘MasterCard to Power Nigerian Identity Card Program’ stated:

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As part of the program, in its first phase, Nigerians 16 years and older, and all residents in the country for more than two years, will get the new multipurpose identity card which has 13 applications including MasterCard’s prepaid payment technology that will provide cardholders with the safety, convenience and reliability of electronic payments. This will have a significant and positive impact on the lives of these Nigerians who have not previously had access to financial services.


The program is also designed to move Nigeria into a cashless society, one that is dependent on financial institutions, Wall Street and the Nigerian government. It will be managed by the financial elites of Wall Street, technocrats and of course Washington. All forms of financial transactions would be exchanged through plastic credit and debit cards that would have implanted RFID chips. Michael Miebach, President of the Middle East and Africa division at MasterCard supports the Nigerian government’s decision for a new cashless society, “Today’s announcement is the first phase of an unprecedented project in terms of scale and scope for Nigeria,” said Michael Miebach
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“MasterCard has been a firm supporter of the Central Bank of Nigeria’s (CBN) Cashless Policy as we share a vision of a world beyond cash. From the program’s inception, we have provided the Federal Government of Nigeria with global insights and best practices on how electronic payments can enable economic growth and create a more financially inclusive economy.”

The problem with a cashless society is that the state can terminate your electronic financial lifeline if anything were to happen within the country, for example any form of protests, economic downturns, a war or if a financial institution such as MasterCard were to go bankrupt. There are many other reasons that the state or its’ corporate backers can decide to turn off the RFID chip. When you a have a powerful financial institution issuing payments electronically with a government that is supported and controlled by Washington, unlimited control of the populace becomes inevitable. 70% of Nigeria’s population is living below the poverty line as of 2010. How can MasterCard and the Nigerian government benefit millions of Nigerians who are living in abject poverty? Is MasterCard going to offer low interest rates on its credit cards in a country that has a more than 70% of the population in poverty with many living with less than a dollar a day?

Another aspect about the National Identity Smart card is that it can be used for surveillance of individuals under the state. With Nigeria facing a civil war between Islamists insurgents and minority ethnic groups from the oil rich Niger Delta, the National Identity Smart cards can be used to identify its enemies. The MasterCard press release stated how it identifies the individual cardholder:
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The new National Identity Smart Card will incorporate the unique National Identification Numbers (NIN) of duly registered persons in the country. The enrollment process involves the recording of an individual’s demographic data and biometric data (capture of 10 fingerprints, facial picture and digital signature) that are used to authenticate the cardholder and eliminate fraud and embezzlement. The resultant National Identity Database will provide the platform for several other value propositions of the NIMC including identity authentication and verification.

According to MasterCard, the purpose of the Nigerian Identity Card Program is for the economic prosperity of Nigerian people. Is it a facade? Is the Nigerian government on the verge of controlling its population financially with Washington’s support? With MasterCard and Wall Street involved, Washington will support the Nigerian government in order for it to succeed with the plan:
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The announcement was witnessed by Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, Minister of Finance and Coordinating Minister for the Economy in Nigeria, who stressed the importance of the National Identity Smart Card Scheme in moving Nigeria to an electronic platform. This program is good practice for us to bring all the citizens on a common platform for interacting with the various government agencies and for transacting electronically. We will implement this initiative in a collaborative manner between the public and private sectors, to achieve its full potential of inclusive citizenship and more effective governance,”

The Nigerian based independent newspaper The Guardian with reporter Marcel Mbamalu along with the Africa Press Organisation (APO) interviewed the Division President of Sub Sahara Africa for MasterCard, Daniel Monehin in an article called ‘Identity Card: Biometric Data of Nigerians Remain with FG, Not MasterCard, Says Monehin’:
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Marcel Mbamalu: You talk of something close to general application of the card; yet, the finance Minister was quoted as saying that it will begin with government pensions before…

Daniel Monehin: That was in response to the question that was asked the honorable Minister as to what would be the criteria for selecting the pilot citizens. She responded that she’s really excited at the auspicious time that this is going on because there’s a lot of work that is being done centrally for central treasury and for payment within the federal government, and she would like to see pensioners being part of this first group of the pilot, so that the federal government can begin to load their payment automatically, take out the physical nature of it so that the old tale of people dying on the line while trying to wait on the line to collect their pension would be a thing of the past.

The whole thing that is happening is that this is a platform not just for receiving government tension but for receiving government pensions, benefits, bursary payments, NGO’s that are funding private segments of the society can be funded directly; salaries can be paid directly. Anybody with that card has a whole new world opened to him or her. So, from government-to-people payments, from people-to-people payments, ATM all of those platforms or avenues are open. This is not a card that is restricted, its not even restricted to Nigeria; it is loaded.

You can go out of Nigeria to Ghana, Gambia, USA, China and use it. It is accepted in 210 countries and territories, and over 35 million acceptance locations around the world.

So, in terms of potential, this is a massive platform and what the minister just alluded to is just one segment of its use, not all.

The issuance is starting within the next three months. The National Identity Management Commission (NIMC) is going to do an event locally to flag it off.


Nigeria’s decision to have a cashless society under corporate control in the near future is a disturbing trend for humanity. Let’s hope that the Nigerian people resist MasterCard and the government and find an alternative economic solution that will allow them to live in free society they deserve."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/26/13 10:47 AM

I felt this was a good summary of Karen Hudes interview. The source link of this article provides many links to support all that is said by Karen Hudes.
Karen Hudes, Former World Bank Atty., Exposes Control by Global Banking of the World Bank, Corporations and the Media
http://intellihub.com/2013/05/24/karen-h...-and-the-media/

May 24, 2013

Originally Posted By: Karen Hudes
“When you turn on the television, whatever you’re watching has been filtered by those people!
So, we don’t have a Democracy here.
… my story is about being very close to Martial Law”

"In one of the most significant interviews on International Finance and Banking, Karen Hudes, Former World Bank Attorney, talks about her experience working for the World Bank. Her actions to report on corruption at the World Bank led to her termination in 2007. Since then, she has been trying to get her story out to the public.

Although this story is complex, a few great points are listed in an article authored by Karen Hudes (with Jim Fetzer) at VeteransToday.com titled, The World Bank: Rejecting “The Rule of Law

During the World Bank and IMF Annual Meetings last October, with her encouragement, the Development Committee informed President Jim Yong Kim of the need for “a more open, transparent and accountable World Bank Group.” The reasons that motivated that request included the following series of disturbing developments:

- The World Bank has disregarded the Joint Economic Committee’s 2005 inquiry into the World Bank’s “corporate governance irregularities” and “accounting problems”;

- The World Bank has failed to follow the Joint Economic Committee’s advice that professional financial and accounting employees be given independent access to the World Bank’s Board and its Audit Committee;

- The World Bank has failed to protect Hudes against retaliation for challenges of illegality or other misconduct through external arbitration pursuant to the 2005 Lugar-Leahy amendment, which could threaten its mission;

- The World Bank has stonewalled Senator Lugar’s and Congressman Van Hollen’s four requests for the advice of the executive search firm following Hudes’ disclosure of internal control lapses;

- The World Bank has refused to comply with the Government Accountability Office inquiry into corruption requested by Senators Lugar, Leahy and Bayh for more than three years;

- Congress has reiterated its request for the GAO inquiry during hearings on the World Bank capital increase, with which it has yet to comply; and,

- Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner misrepresented progress on World Bank reform in his 11/21/12 report to the Appropriations Committees pursuant to § 7082 of the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2012.

During her research of The World Bank, she discovered that there are 43,000 Trans-National Corporations that control nearly everything and that these corporations are merged together into Conglomerate – a Super Entity. This fact translates into the recent LIBOR Scandal.

Confirming what one sees in the world in terms of a coordinated plan to control all finance, Karen explains that this Super Entity controls 40% of the Net Worth of Publically Traded Corporations and 60% of the Net Earnings on the Capital Markets through their Interlocking Directorships.

Also, as many in the Alternative Media have known for years, there exists a Mainstream Media Cover–Up of most criminality and corruption, including the 9/11 WTC Terrorist Attack on September 11, 2001, the Benghazi 9/11 Assassination of Ambassador Stevens, the Death of Seal Team 6 in retaliation for their knowledge of the Fake Bin Laden Killing, the Boston Marathon Bombing False-Flag and other recent events including the IRS Scandal that is unfolding now.


Corruption / World Bank Exposed
Interview – http://OneRadioNetwork.com
Karen Hudes – http://kahudes.net


Excerpting from the same article by Karen Hudes (with Jim Fetzer) The World Bank: Rejecting “The Rule of Law” adds more details to this emerging story:

Where things stand
- Dr. Jim Yong Kim, President of the World Bank, has refused to tackle the corruption. He has even had me locked out of the World Bank’s headquarters. On March 19, 2013, I reported to the World Bank, informing Allied Barton’s security personnel that I was duly reinstated by the shareholders of the World Bank. Allied Barton illegally denied me a security badge. An Allied Barton officer raised his voice to me.

- The World Bank, under Dr. Kim’s presidency, called the DC police on a legal officer of the World Bank whose reinstatement was necessary in order to qualify for the US contribution to the World Bank’s capital increase. Notwithstanding that the World Bank refused to confirm any request to the police in writing in an attempt to evade accountability, I left the premises at the request of the DC police. However, I did report to the 2nd District Precinct that the DC police had been derelict in their duties.

- Republicans and Democrats in Congress have tried to expose the corruption to the American public by calling for an inquiry by the Government Accountability Office. Congress has attempted to fight the corruption by refusing to disburse the World Bank capital increase until there is substantial progress in eliminating the effects of retaliation against whistleblowers who disclosed illegality and corruption. The UK and EU Parliaments have also published testimony and held hearings on the corruption.

- The World Bank has attempted to intimidate the World Bank’s Board members, which violates federal, state, and international securities laws. Fortunately, a team of whistleblowers disclosed this corruption and lawlessness to state governors, attorneys general, and chief justices of state supreme courts. State authorities, together with NATO and other allies, are attempting to prevent this corruption from lowering the US credit rating and causing a currency war between nations.

- The situation in Cyprus appears to be growing increasingly more serious. The prospects for the World Bank itself are also increasingly in jeopardy, where Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa (the BRICS nations) are planning to create their own alternative World Bank. These consequences might well have been avoided had President Kim adhered to the principles of the rule of law, reinstated me and implemented appropriate accounting procedures. That he has done none of these, alas, remains a cause of grave concern, where his past performance in relation to JFK is anything but reassuring."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/28/13 03:47 AM

Lindsay Williams was providently rubbing shoulders with the world “elites” for some years from which he made a few friends that he kept in touch. These “elites” friends has been providing Lindsay with inside information of their plans. It doesn’t mean that their plans will go the way they think it will, however, it does provide some information what will be their next moves so we can better prepare ourselves.

In the 1970s, the Lord placed Lindsay William as a Chaplin Pastor for the Alyeska Pipeline Company in Alaska. The large operation had 28 camps from which Lindsay ministry saved the company thousands of dollars of counseling fees. Because of the success of his ministry, the company gave him an executive status which he could go anywhere he liked and see anything he wanted regarding the pipeline operation. He also was invited to sit in on board meetings in an advisory capacity in order to help the relationship between management and labor. This opportunity allowed him to sit, live and rub shoulders with the most powerful, controlling and manipulative men on the face of this planet. So it is there he made a few elites friends that has been sharing information with him that Lindsay shares on his website
http://www.lindseywilliams.net/.

In May, Lindsey received pressing information from his elites friends that he shares in this youtube interview.


Below is my summary of it.

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His “elites” friends said that it was always in the plan to have a big economic crash as they have flooded the market with money and the Quantitative Easing(QE-1, QE-2, & QE-3) is not sustainable. All will collapse at some point and they will let the banks fail. They will use pension funds, retirement funds, people savings, etc. to bail-in the banks like it was recently done with Cyprus. The reason for this is to get everone so poor that they will be begging for the new world order to come to the rescue.

He stresses that this will NOT happen in the next few months, however he doesn’t give any timelines.

We have already seen in Post #151345 that Canada's 2013 budget gives the government the right to access all bank accounts in order to bail-in the banks in case of failure. I’m sure other countries have it also.

Williams says that the bank collapse will come through the use of the derivatives market which is now being estimated to be over 1,200 Trillions – 20 times the world economy. He said that the derivatives market will collapse when the interest rates begin to rise. Stephen Jones said “The rise in interest rates (Fed policy) is probably the single most important sign to watch in the months ahead. Any rise in interest rates will collapse the derivatives market and bankrupt the banks, because their derivatives are betting on low interest rates being maintained.”

In the interview, Lindsay says that the "Elite" have a code of ethics to give warning to everyone ahead of times what they plan to do. Stephen Jones makes the following comment about it.
Originally Posted By: Stephen Jones
Their "ethics" is not to act in a moral manner, but to give warning to everyone ahead of time what they plan to do. They put out the word through journalists, through political speeches, and even through movies. Of course, we have understood this for many years, because it is one of the laws of spiritual warfare in Deuteronomy 20.
The law mandates that before an attack takes place, the attacking force has to offer terms of peace, which of course gives their "enemy" advance warning. In my view, these "elite" include many Satanists, who know the divine law better than most Christians. They know that the only way they can maintain their power is to induce the people to continue in sin, because then the judgments of the law continue to be in force against the people. That is why they work so hard legalizing gay marriage, abortion, the prison system, usury, and, of course, the immigration of as many non-Christians as possible.
They also know the law of spiritual warfare and are careful to follow it. That is why they tell us what they plan to do ahead of time. We then cannot lodge a complaint in the divine court, claiming that they blind-sided us. Christians in general are no match for these Satanists, because they do not study the law. In fact, they discourage people from studying the law, and some even make people afraid of the law, as if studying it might endanger their salvation.

Even so, we have learned a few things about spiritual warfare over the years. We have already won this battle since 1993, and all that awaits its implementation is the coming repentance. This will happen only after the outpouring of the Holy Spirit (divine intervention), because in the natural, we are too small and poor to change the culture and laws. The Babylonians control the culture through the educational system, and they enforce their decrees through the courts.


The “Elite” friend pointed to two big warnings that was given to the world about their coming plans. Lindsay stresses for us to pay good attention to the buzz words they are using in these articles.

The first was published in the New York Times on April 2, 2013 by David Stockman(President Reagan's budget director) who gives a basic outlined of the plan :
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arch...america/274554/

The second, by Vice President Joe Biden who delivered a speech on April 5, 2013 that included certain parts of the "elite" plan.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SandGloba

Biden calls for a New World Order with three main elements:

1. A "New Financial Institutions" -- which implies that the old financial institutions (banks) will be replaced.

2. An Updated global rules -- which implies to replace the US Constitution with a new "global" constitution. In David Stockman’s article above, he says “Some are rabid against gun control. Look, I think the Second Amendment is obsolete. It's archaic. It's from the 18th century, not the 21st century.”

3. A level playing field -- which means the leveling of the standard of living around the world by reducing the hi-standard of living in some countries in order to meet other countries.

Lindsay says that they are thinking of first implementing the Cyprus model in New Zealand, Australia, and Japan before bringing it to America. It seems that the government will need to steal pension and retirement accounts on the grounds to avoid an economic collapse.

Lindsay personally believe that America will be safer than any other countries because they have responded patriotically with arming themselves after the Sandy Hook shoot-out. And also the American people bought a bunch of gold and silver when the prices went down in April.

He also said many times that gold and silver is the money of the elite – whatever they have in the bank is what they can afford to lose.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/05/13 12:32 PM

Karen Hudes recent comment on Ben Fulford June 4 Geopolitics report, her current whistleblowing work and further links

Karen’s comment of Ben Fulford Geopolitics Report : “This is all fascinating. What if the control of the financial system ended up with……the citizens of the planet? Improbable as it seems, that is what a very accurate game theory model has been predicting ever since a group of World Bank whistleblowers managed to expose the corruption in the Bretton woods system to US Congress, UK Parliament, the European Parliament, the Attorneys General, Governors, and Chief Justices of the 50 United States, the National Advisory Council on International Monetary and Financial Policies, the International Organization of Supreme Audit Institutions, the International Organization of Securities Commissions, and the 188 Ministers of Finance on the Board of Governors of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. Here is what I wrote to a participant at the Bilderberg conference:
“I thought it might interest the conference that we are running out of time in the gold market”

From: karenhudes@hotmail.com
To: support@ripoffreport.com
Subject: This is the eighth interference with my recent report on the World Bank http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/world-bank/washington-dist-of-columbia-
20433/world-bank-gave-inaccurate-financial-statements-washington-dc-1050418
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 07:02:41 -0400
From: karenhudes@hotmail.com
To: friend in france
Bcc:jenny.davis@osd.mil (jenny.davis@osd.mil);thomas_caballero@legal.senate.gov
(thomas_caballero@legal.senate.gov);kerry.kircher@mail.house.gov;(kerry.kircher@mail.house.gov)
Subject: RE: Governance
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 06:58:02 -0400

Dear Friend in France,

I am working from an extremely powerful stakeholder analysis, described in this article http://www.larsschall.com/2013/05/08/gov...he-world-order/ Although the risks were as you described, the stakeholder analysis, with an accuracy over 90%, started predicting that that the governance problems I have been reporting would resolve in favor of the rule of law once I testified in the UK Parliament and EU Parliaments. All of the MP’s in the UK Parliament are fully informed. I am attaching my email to the UK whistleblower in our network at the foot of this email.

House of Commons International Development Committee, Written Evidence for the inquiry into The work of the Independent Commission for Aid Impact, published July 7, 2012 available here:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmselect/cmintdev/
writev/402/contents.htm

House of Commons Public Administration Committee, Written Evidence for the inquiry into Public engagement in policy making, published November 2, 2012 available here:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmselect/cmpubadm/
writev/publicpolicy/m03.htm

The European Parliament Committee on Budgetary Control Hearing on Whistleblowing May 25, 2011 available here:
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/document/activities/cont/201105/
20110518ATT19540/20110518ATT19540EN.pdf

My Ripoff Report about this corruption is at: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/world-bank...gton-dc-1050418

I informed all of the Washington embassies about my conversation with the Governors’ liaisons with the federal government just preceding my 26/5/13 interview on Coast-to-Coast, the most popular nightime radio show:http://www.dailypaul.com/287001/karen-hudes-former-imf-world-bank-whistleblower-on-c2c-am-aj-ifw-nightly-news-may-25-28-2013

I am regularly in touch with the Joint Chiefs of Staff as well, who are also monitoring progress in resolving these problems.
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/08/13 07:08 PM

For Mystery Babylon to retain its power, it depends that its identity and activities remain secret. That's why the Lord calls them "mystery"(secret) Babylon. By losing it's secrecy having more and more people of the world knowing their existence and plans, Mystery Babylon has lost its power and in no time we will witness its final fall. We know from Scriptures that it will be the Lord's people of the saint that will rule and reign with Christ on earth during the Millenium.

A top secret document obtained by the Guardian reveal that the government NSA(Nationla Security Agency) program call Prism were spying on the people via Verizon, Hotmail, Gmail, Facebook, Yahoo, Google, Skype, paltalk, Youtube, AOL, Apple, etc... This is a major PR disaster for these mega corporation which by the most are currently denying any knowledge or collaboration with the Prism program. These merchants will "shall weep and mourn over her, for no man buyeth their merchandise any more".

There are several news coverage of this. Below are a few.

A: A Bloomberg TV news report with Richard Falkenrath
The Biggest Security Leak of the 21st Century?


B: RT: Assange on PRISM: US justice system in ‘calamitous’ collapse
http://rt.com/news/assange-nsa-surveillance-program-401/

“WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has slammed a recently exposed NSA mass-surveillance scheme as a "calamitous collapse in the rule of law." Google, Facebook and other tech giants apparently involved have denied giving the NSA access to their servers.

Assange accused the US government of trying to "launder" its activities concerning the large-scale spying program PRISM. The system was made public after a leaked classified National Security Agency (NSA) document was revealed earlier this week.

"The US administration has the phone records of everyone in the United States and is receiving them daily from carriers to the National Security Agency under secret agreements. That's what's come out," he said.

President Barack Obama earlier defended PRISM, saying it was a key part of the country’s counterterrorism efforts and that privacy was a necessary sacrifice for the sake of security. He also lashed out at the media, and those who leaked information on the massive spying program.

If every step that we are taking to try to prevent a terrorist act is on the front page of the newspapers or any television, then presumably the people that are trying to do us harm are going to be able to get around our preventative measures,” Obama said.

Critics of the Obama Administration have accused it of an unprecedented crackdown on whistleblowers – more government officials are being prosecuted for leaks under Obama than all previous administrations combined. News of PRISM comes just after reports that the Justice Department secretly obtained two months of AP reporters' telephone records and tapped Fox News reporter James Rosen’s private email.

"Over the last 10 years, the US justice system has suffered from a collapse, a calamitous collapse, in the rule of law,” Assange said.

The US tech giants apparently involved in PRISM have rushed to deny they participated in the program; their logos were visible on each the 41 PowerPoint slides of the leaked NSA document.

Indeed, the US government does not have direct access or a 'back door' to the information stored in our data centers. We had not heard of a program called PRISM until yesterday,” Google CEO Larry Page and Chief Legal Officer David Drummond said in a statement.

Google's remarks mirrored those by Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Yahoo. All have claimed they have no knowledge of whether the NSA had direct access to their servers, and that only upon legal orders do they provide the government with data on specific persons.

While activists debate the legality and ethics of online espionage and high-tech firms try to distance themselves from the revelations, a former NSA official believes PRISM is largely ineffective, as the amount of data it collects cannot be effectively digested by a surveillance system.

In fact it adds more of a problem because what that means, quite simply, is that if you go into a larger database, you get more data back no matter what the query is. It’s like making a query with Google. If you go in with a Google query you can get tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands or even a million returns. Well, there’s no way you can go through that, all of that, to see what you’re really interested in. So what that does is make them less proficient at doing their jobs,” former NSA analyst William Binney told RT.

C: UK gathering secret intelligence via covert NSA operation
Exclusive: UK security agency GCHQ gaining information from world's biggest internet firms through US-run Prism programme
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jun/07/uk-gathering-secret-intelligence-nsa-prism
guardian.co.uk, Friday 7 June 2013 14.27 BST

Quote:
The UK's electronic eavesdropping and security agency, GCHQ, has been secretly gathering intelligence from the world's biggest internet companies through a covertly run operation set up by America's top spy agency, documents obtained by the Guardian reveal.
The documents show that GCHQ, based in Cheltenham, has had access to the system since at least June 2010, and generated 197 intelligence reports from it last year.

The US-run programme, called Prism, would appear to allow GCHQ to circumvent the formal legal process required to seek personal material such as emails, photos and videos from an internet company based outside the UK.

The use of Prism raises ethical and legal issues about such direct access to potentially millions of internet users, as well as questions about which British ministers knew of the programme.

In a statement to the Guardian, GCHQ, insisted it "takes its obligations under the law very seriously".

The details of GCHQ's use of Prism are set out in documents prepared for senior analysts working at America's National Security Agency, the biggest eavesdropping organisation in the world.

Dated April this year, the papers describe the remarkable scope of a previously undisclosed "snooping" operation which gave the NSA and the FBI easy access to the systems of nine of the world's biggest internet companies. The group includes Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, Yahoo and Skype.

The documents, which appear in the form of a 41-page PowerPoint presentation, suggest the firms co-operated with the Prism programme. Technology companies denied knowledge of Prism, with Google insisting it "does not have a back door for the government to access private user data". But the companies acknowledged that they complied with legal orders.

The existence of Prism, though, is not in doubt.

Thanks to changes to US surveillance law introduced under President George W Bush and renewed under Barack Obama in December 2012, Prism was established in December 2007 to provide in-depth surveillance on live communications and stored information about foreigners overseas.

The law allows for the targeting of any customers of participating firms who live outside the US, or those Americans whose communications include people outside the US.
The documents make clear the NSA has been able to obtain unilaterally both stored communications as well as real-time collection of raw data for the last six years, without the knowledge of users, who would assume their correspondence was private.

The NSA describes Prism as "one of the most valuable, unique and productive accesses" of intelligence, and boasts the service has been made available to spy organisations from other countries, including GCHQ.

It says the British agency generated 197 intelligence reports from Prism in the year to May 2012 – marking a 137% increase in the number of reports generated from the year before. Intelligence reports from GCHQ are normally passed to MI5 and MI6.

The documents underline that "special programmes for GCHQ exist for focused Prism processing", suggesting the agency has been able to receive material from a bespoke part of the programme to suit British interests.

Unless GCHQ has stopped using Prism, the agency has accessed information from the programme for at least three years. It is not mentioned in the latest report from the Interception of Communications Commissioner Office, which scrutinises the way the UK's three security agencies use the laws covering the interception and retention of data.

Asked to comment on its use of Prism, GCHQ said it "takes its obligations under the law very seriously. Our work is carried out in accordance with a strict legal and policy framework which ensures that our activities are authorised, necessary and proportionate, and that there is rigorous oversight, including from the secretary of state, the interception and intelligence services commissioners and the intelligence and security committee".
The agency refused to be drawn on how long it had been using Prism, how many intelligence reports it had gleaned from it, or which ministers knew it was being used.
A GCHQ spokesperson added: "We do not comment on intelligence matters."
The existence and use of Prism reflects concern within the intelligence community about access it has to material held by internet service providers.
Many of the web giants are based in the US and are beyond the jurisdiction of British laws. Very often, the UK agencies have to go through a formal legal process to request information from service providers.
Because the UK has a mutual legal assistance treaty with America, GCHQ can make an application through the US department of justice, which will make the approach on its behalf.
Though the process is used extensively – almost 3,000 requests were made to Google alone last year – it is time consuming. Prism would appear to give GCHQ a chance to bypass the procedure.
In its statement about Prism, Google said it "cares deeply about the security of our users' data. We disclose user data to government in accordance with the law, and we review all such requests carefully. From time to time, people allege that we have created a government 'back door' into our systems, but Google does not have a back door for the government to access private user data".

Several senior tech executives insisted they had no knowledge of Prism or of any similar scheme. They said they would never have been involved in such a programme.
"If they are doing this, they are doing it without our knowledge," one said. An Apple spokesman said it had "never heard" of Prism.

In a statement confirming the existence of Prism, James Clapper, the director of national intelligence in the US, said: "Information collected under this programme is among the most important and valuable intelligence information we collect, and is used to protect our nation from a wide variety of threats."

A senior US administration official said: "The programme is subject to oversight by the foreign intelligence surveillance court, the executive branch, and Congress. It involves extensive procedures, specifically approved by the court, to ensure that only non-US persons outside the US are targeted, and that minimise the acquisition, retention and dissemination of incidentally acquired information about US persons."



D: Report: NSA Secretly Collecting Phone Records Of All U.S. Verizon Calls
http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/05/report-nsa-secretly-collecting-phone-records-of-all-verizon-calls/?icid=maing-grid10|htmlws-sb-bb|dl1|sec1_lnk3&pLid=323980

Quote:
The National Security Administration is secretly collecting phone record information for all U.S. calls on the Verizon network. “Under the terms of the blanket order, the numbers of both parties on a call are handed over, as is location data, call duration, unique identifiers, and the time and duration of all calls,” reports The Guardian, which broke the story of the top-secret project after it obtained record of a court order mandating Verizon hand over the information.

The contents of the call are not recorded and it is also not known whether Verizon is the only cell-phone carrier complying with the massive spying project. The court order concerns all calls to, from, and within the United States.

With this so-called “metadata,” the government knows “the identity of every person with whom an individual communicates electronically, how long they spoke, and their location at the time of the communication,” explains the Guardian.

The Senate’s tech-savviest member, Ron Wyden (CrunchGov Grade: A), has been discretely warning citizens of these kinds of secretive government projects. “There is now a significant gap between what most Americans think the law allows and what the government secretly claims the law allows,” wrote Wyden and Senator Mark Udall to embattled Attorney Eric Holder.

The order apparently draws from a 2001 Bush-era provision in the Patriot Act (50 USC section 1861). The revelation dovetails similar exposes on massive government spying projects, including one project to combine federal datasets and look for patterns on anything which could be related to terrorism.

Late last year, I wrote about a few actual harms that citizens should be worried about from these types of big-data spying programs. Blackmailing citizens critical of the government seemed like a distant hypothetical, until we learned that the IRS was auditing Tea Party groups and journalists were being wiretapped. Nefarious actors inside the government like to abuse national security programs for political ends, and that should make us all (even more) suspect of government spying.

Some government secrecy is necessary for national security purposes. But it’s justified based on our trust that the information will be used with care. With every passing scandal, the justification for these types of programs becomes more and more questionable.

Either way, this is a massive PR disaster for Verizon. While it’s true that AT&T had it’s own spying scandal, misery still loves company. It’s in Verizon’s interest to somehow implicate other carriers in the spying program. If Verizon is, indeed, not the only carrier, I suspect we’ll be finding out in the near future.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/09/13 03:56 PM

My comment : The Global Collateral Accounts is an important part of the world economic history that needs to be understood. I have read many long dissertation of this available on the net, but below is a simple briefing of it. It is said that the release of the Global Collateral Accounts needs to happen before the Global Economic Restructure takes place. It may... it may not... however I'm more looking for a repentance in America fulfilling the condition of the Law of Tribulation in Lev 26 & Deut 28 that will be caused by the Lord working behind these events we've been seeing these past years to bring the hidden truths out then catalysed by the coming outpouring of His Spirit. I don't know if the repentance will happen before or after the Global restructuring but either I think these events will be close together. But for sure according to how the Lord has acted in the past according to the law of tribulation when he has sold Israel into slavery to the Foreigners(read the book of Judges), at the 5th captivity a repentance was necessary before the Lord delivered Israel. So I do not believe the Lord is going to deliver us from Mystery Babylon before a repentance happens in America (& Canada).

Neil Keenan Update: A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE GLOBAL COLLATERAL ACCOUNTS
http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2013/06/08...teral-accounts/

"The history behind the Global Collateral Accounts is vast and complex, and reaches back some 250 years. For the purposes of this brief overview, we will focus on two key elements which are now headlining stories around the world: debt, and gold.

The Western banking oligarchy’s current global control can be traced back to the Rothschild family’s dominance of international banking in the early years of the 19th century. The long-term strategy of the elite banking and royal bloodline families was simple: gain control of the global gold supply in order to maintain power through the control of global currency and its underlying collateral. Gold and Debt – that is the essence of this story.

Where Did the Gold Come from and to Whom Does It Belong?
For two thousand years, the gold of the world flowed east toward China, along the Silk Road, from the Roman Empire, on through to the Byzantine and the Spanish, in exchange for the silks, spices, and treasures of the East. When the bankers of Europe decided to seek control of the world financial system, control of this gold became essential.

Who created the Global Collateral Accounts and why?
Operation Golden Lily is the well-documented story of the Japanese gold-collecting teams, which infiltrated key gold-holding nations well in advance of the military invasions of China and other nations, with the express intent of seizing the hundreds of thousands of metric tons of gold that had accumulated in Asia (primarily in China). The Nazi gold-collecting system is well-known, but the Japanese accumulated a far greater hoard, with the knowledge and cooperation of certain European banking interests.

Where is the gold and how did it get there?
The “official” total for the entire amount of gold said to be above ground since humanity first began mining the precious metal is approximately 160,000 metric tons. Evidence now indicates that a more accurate figure is well in excess of two million metric tons. During World War Two, the Japanese dug tunnels and bunkers throughout Southeast Asia to store the gold – primarily in Indonesia, Thailand, and The Phillipines. After the war, the gold was discovered by the Allies, and was incorporated into a system set up by the European central bankers before the war for this very purpose. The exact total of the wealth in the off-ledger accounts is not known, but is said to be in the thousands of trillions of dollars in gold, platinum, and gems, in addition to an undetermined amount in Federal Reserve notes and other currencies.

How did the nations come to agree that the Accounts were to be used for humanitarian programs?
At the Bretton Woods Conference in 1944, when the soon-to-be-victorious Allies met to create a new global financial system, the International Monetary Fund was created. In the late 1940’s, President Sukarno of Indonesia was appointed monetary controller of behalf of the depositors to monitor and implement the Global Accounts for redevelopment purposes.

How did the banking elite abuse the Accounts?
The central banking families had already put in place essential structures to seize and control this wealth: the Bank of International Settlements, the International Monetary Fund, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the United Nations, all of which were funded by elite banking figures, including the Rockefellers and Warburgs. The agreements to use the funds for development were neglected, and the banking elite proceeded to use them for their own ends, blocking the depositors from access. President Sukarno of Indonesia had been appointed “M1” or Monetary Controller of the Accounts (as much of the assets are stored in hidden bunkers in Indonesia), but he was removed from power after making a deal with John F. Kennedy to use the funds to back new U.S. Treasury dollars, in a direct move against the central bankers’ power. Kennedy’s assassination prevented this move from succeeding.

The central bankers put in place a system that allows the Federal Reserve to block anyone but banking elite insiders from using the Accounts, thus blocking the actual owners – the depositors – from utilizing the assets for humanitarian programs, as originally intended.

Who is Neil Keenan and what is his relationship to the Global Accounts?
The emergence of Neil Keenan at the cutting edge of these events can be traced to the theft in 2009 by Vatican financial insider Daniele dal Bosco of $144.5 billion in Federal Reserve notes which were entrusted to Mr. Keenan by the Dragon Family, the group of ancient wealthy clans in Asia who are the legitimate owners of vast amounts of gold in the off-ledger Global Accounts. The Dragon Family has been attempting for decades to utilize the Accounts for their originally intended purpose, and sought out Keenan’s help because of his reputation as a well-connected, tough-minded international businessman. The story of this theft, and of Mr. Keenan’s filing of a trillion-dollar lawsuit against elite figures and institutions (including the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, The World Bank, the Italian government, the Italian Financial Police, Silvio Berlusconi, and others) was first revealed by Benjamin Fulford, former Forbes Magazine financial editor for Asia, who traveled to Italy to conduct initial investigations, where an attempt was made on his life. The story was then taken up by best-selling author David Wilcock (who then also received death threats), confirming the story in an investigative article on his influential blog. The 110-page lawsuit, first filed in New York federal court, can be viewed at this link.

In addition to his lawsuit (which he subsequently withdrew in order to re-file in a more effective jurisdiction), Keenan also filed a Cease and Desist order (available upon request) on behalf of the Dragon Family against a Who’s Who of the cabal power structure, putting them on notice that they were defrauding the Global Accounts, and would be prosecuted for any further fraud. This Cease and Desist names George Herbert Walker Bush, George W Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, the United Nations, Ban Ki Moon, David Rockefeller, Hillary Clinton, and a host of other world figures and organizations who are in the inner circle of the cabal.

The bonds which were stolen from Mr. Keenan were Federal Reserve notes given to the Dragon Family in payment for the gold deposited in the Accounts – notes which the Federal Reserve continually blocked from utilization. Mr. Keenan’s lawsuit represents the first formidable attempt to defeat this theft.

As may be expected, his life is in danger. He has survived four assassination attempts to date, and now has protection in place from numerous allies around the world. Mr. Keenan is currently in Indonesia, finalizing agreements with the Indonesian elders, and Chinese officials holding lineal claim to the majority of the assets in the Accounts.

Mr. Keenan is in possession of key documents, such as the original of the Green Hilton Memorial Agreement between Kennedy and Sukarno, and the “Black Book,” secret records of the Accounts. Numerous other pieces of evidence can be provided. In addition to Mr. Keenan’s participation, other key players may be brought to the table as part of the interview process, including Indonesians involved in the guardianship of the Assets, powerful Asian financial officials, and others. We propose immediate discussions to explore this possibility."

Michael Henry Dunn

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/17/13 11:03 AM

Below is a very informative and interesting news article that reveal that Yahoo has fought in court in 2008 against the government to protect their users private information. Yahoo lost due to the Patriot Act and were force to comply with the Prism program.

So it is obvious that all these corporations including President Obama are under a gag order.

There's good graphs and pictures at the link.

Revealed: Yahoo FOUGHT against NSA's warrantless spying program but lost and was forced by secret court to join PRISM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...l#ixzz2WSQZbw2o

"Yahoo's top lawyers had a courtroom showdown with the National Security Agency after it had demanded information on certain foreign users without a warrant, but the tech giant lost and was forced to hand over the data, it was revealed today.

Court documents obtained by the New York Times show that the Internet company had initially refused to join the PRISM spying program, insisting that the broad national security requests seeking users' personal information were unconstitutional.

However, the secret court operating under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) sided with the NSA and forced Yahoo's hand.

Information about Yahoo's legal battle against the NSA first emerged in a heavily redacted court order, but the name of the company involved had not been released until now.

It was claimed that besides Yahoo, a number of major Silicon Valley companies became part of PRISM, among them Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, YouTube, Skype, AOL and the lesser known Internet company PalTalk, which has hosted a lot of traffic during the Arab Spring and the on-going Syrian civil war.


However, only Facebook and Google have been shown to have worked toward creating 'online rooms' in which to share data with the government.

Information about the classified program was leaked last week by NSA systems administrator Edward Snowden, 29, who smuggled the files concerning PRISM on a thumb drive.

So far, Yahoo, Google and Facebook have all denied their involvement in PRISM.
'Yahoo! has not joined any program in which we volunteer to share user data with the U.S. government,' Yahoo General Counsel Ron Bell wrote in a Tumblr post Saturday. 'We do not voluntarily disclose user information. The only disclosures that occur are in response to specific demands.'
In the wake of the unwarranted spying scandal, a number of top Silicon Valley companies, among them Facebook, Google and Microsoft, have asked the government to overturn a gag order allowing them to publicly disclose national security requests.

Google Inc was the first to go public with its demand for greater transparency, releasing an open letter asking the U.S. Department of Justice for permission to disclose the number and scope of data requests each receives from security agencies, including confidential FISA requests.
Microsoft Corp and Facebook Inc soon followed with similarly worded statements in support of Google.

Last year, the government issued more than 1,850 FISA requests and 15,000 National Security Letters, which refers to requests filed by the FBI to collect information about Americans.
Between 2008 and last year, only two of more than 8,500 FISA requests were rejected by the secret court, according to the Electronic Privacy Information Center, a non-profit research group. "
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/17/13 11:31 AM

Now the scandilous scope of Prism is more than spying on individuals, but spying on Presidents communications of other countries before summit meetings to be used to sway them into Mystery Babylon's agendas. This is quite dishonest and break all ethical laws of negotiations that countries are not going to forget or forgive this.

US spied on Russian President Medvedev at 2009 G20 summit – NSA leaks

http://rt.com/news/nsa-spied-medvedev-g20-789/

"As Britain readies to host the G8 summit, the documents uncovered by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden have revealed that back in 2009 US spies intercepted top-secret communications of then Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev, during his visit to London.

The Guardian, which has seen the documents, also revealed that UK intelligence agency GCHQ monitored foreign politicians and intercepted their emails during the 2009 G20 summit held in the British capital, which was attended by Medvedev. Some delegates were tricked into using internet cafes which had been set up by UK intelligence agencies to read their email traffic.

This comes as the 39th G8 summit is scheduled to start on Monday in the small Northern Irish resort town of Lough Erne with all the nations who were present at the 2009 London meeting attending.

According to the leaked documents viewed by the British paper, the details of the intercept of Medvedev’s communications were set out in a briefing prepared by the US National Security Agency (NSA), and shared with high-ranking officials from Britain, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. The document entitled "Russian Leadership Communications in support of President Dmitry Medvedev at the G20 summit in London – Intercept at Menwith Hill station" was drafted in August 2009, four months after the Russian president attended the London G20 summit.

The NSA paper says: "This is an analysis of signal activity in support of President Dmitry Medvedev's visit to London. The report details a change in the way Russian leadership signals have been normally transmitted. The signal activity was found to be emanating from the Russian embassy in London and the communications are believed to be in support of the Russian president."


The interception of Medvedev’s communications by the US intelligence service came hours after his first meeting with the US President Barack Obama where they struck a warm tone and promised a “fresh start” in US-Russia relations.

The latest revelations will be a major embarrassment for Washington, as Obama is set to meet with the incumbent Russian President Vladimir Putin during the G8 summit in Northern Ireland and discuss such tough issues as the Syrian conflict.


In the wake of the scandalous leak of NSA documents, US officials have been defending massive surveillance tactics stressing that they were crucial in the fight against terrorism. However, the recent revelations about the actions of the NSA and Britain’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) suggests this was simply a case of espionage.

The information obtained by the GCHQ analysts was being rapidly passed on to the British representatives in the G20 meetings, giving them a negotiating advantage. "In a live situation such as this, intelligence received may be used to influence events on the ground taking place just minutes or hours later. This means that it is not sufficient to mine call records afterwards – real-time tip-off is essential," read one of the leaked documents.

During the London summit, GCHQ used what one document described as "ground-breaking intelligence capabilities" to intercept the communications of the foreign delegations. The spy agency set up internet cafes where they used an email interception program and key-logging software to monitor delegates' use of computers. The security of delegates’ BlackBerrys had been penetrated to enable GCHQ see their messages and phone calls.

According to the report the surveillance operation was ordered at a senior level in the government of the then prime minister, Gordon Brown, and appears to have run for at least six months before and after the world leaders gathered in London on April 2.

One document reveals that when G20 finance ministers met in London in September 2009, British intelligence again spied on the delegates, including Turkish Finance Minister Mehmet Simsek and possibly 15 other members of his team.

Referring to the NSA spying on the Russian president at that summit, RT contributor Afshin Rattansi says Britain has served as a surveillance platform for the US for decades. “For many years the British people realized that the National Security Agency was basically using the United Kingdom. And the largest spying outfit of the United States is here in Britain,” he said.

“Perhaps the British people will realize that they are living in a state where their media and all institutions surrounding them, all industrial aspects of the civic society are under a kind of surveillance state that is not being covered in the news.”

The 2009 summit came at a critical moment when the crisis in Western capitalism hit its peak, Rattansi notes. “These kind of revelations show that when governments such as Britain and the United States come close to worrying, they will use this to try and persuade different officials at different governments to sway them.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/23/13 09:00 AM

Karen Hudes, world bank lawyer whistleblowing on how deep the world financial corruption goes as she's interviewed by RT(Russian Today).

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World Bank: Money Laundering Criminals | Interview with Whistleblower Karen Hudes
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/23/13 10:19 AM

Matt Tabbi: The Last Mystery of the Financial Crisis

It's long been suspected that ratings agencies like Moody's and Standard & Poor's helped trigger the meltdown. A new trove of embarrassing documents shows how they did it
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-last-mystery-of-the-financial-crisis-20130619


"What about the ratings agencies?

That's what "they" always say about the financial crisis and the teeming rat's nest of corruption it left behind. Everybody else got plenty of blame: the greed-fattened banks, the sleeping regulators, the unscrupulous mortgage hucksters like spray-tanned Countrywide ex-CEO Angelo Mozilo.

But what about the ratings agencies? Isn't it true that almost none of the fraud that's swallowed Wall Street in the past decade could have taken place without companies like Moody's and Standard & Poor's rubber-stamping it? Aren't they guilty, too?

Man, are they ever. And a lot more than even the least generous of us suspected.

Everything Is Rigged: The Biggest Price-Fixing Scandal Ever

Thanks to a mountain of evidence gathered for a pair of major lawsuits by the San Diego-based law firm Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd, documents that for the most part have never been seen by the general public, we now know that the nation's two top ratings companies, Moody's and S&P, have for many years been shameless tools for the banks, willing to give just about anything a high rating in exchange for cash.

In incriminating e-mail after incriminating e-mail, executives and analysts from these companies are caught admitting their entire business model is crooked.

"*****************;this has to be the stupidest place I have worked at," writes one Standard & Poor's executive. "As you know, I had difficulties explaining 'HOW' we got to those numbers since there is no science behind it," confesses a high-ranking S&P analyst. "If we are just going to make it up in order to rate deals, then quants [quantitative analysts] are of precious little value," complains another senior S&P man. "Let's hope we are all wealthy and retired by the time this house of card[s] falters," ruminates one more.

Ratings agencies are the glue that ostensibly holds the entire financial industry together. These gigantic companies – also known as Nationally Recognized Statistical Rating Organizations, or NRSROs – have teams of examiners who analyze companies, cities, towns, countries, mortgage borrowers, anybody or anything that takes on debt or creates an investment vehicle.

Their primary function is to help define what's safe to buy, and what isn't. A triple-A rating is to the financial world what the USDA seal of approval is to a meat-eater, or virginity is to a Catholic. It's supposed to be sacrosanct, inviolable: According to Moody's own reports, AAA investments "should survive the equivalent of the U.S. Great Depression."

The Scam Wall Street Learned From the Mafia

It's not a stretch to say the whole financial industry revolves around the compass point of the absolutely safe AAA rating. But the financial crisis happened because AAA ratings stopped being something that had to be earned and turned into something that could be paid for.

That this happened is even more amazing because these companies naturally have powerful leverage over their clients, as they are part of a quasi-protected industry that enjoys massive de facto state subsidies. Largely that's because government agencies like the Securities and Exchange Commission often force private companies to fulfill regulatory requirements by retaining or keeping in reserve certain fixed quantities of assets – bonds, securities, whatever – that have been rated highly by a "Nationally Recognized" ratings agency, like the "Big Three" of Moody's, S&P and Fitch. So while they're not quite part of the official regulatory infrastructure, they might as well be.

It's not like the iniquity of the ratings agencies had gone completely unnoticed before. The Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission published a case study in 2011 of Moody's in particular and discovered that between 2000 and 2007, the agency gave nearly 45,000 mortgage-backed securities AAA ratings. One year Moody's doled out AAA ratings to 30 mortgage-backed securities every day, 83 percent of which were ultimately downgraded. "This crisis could not have happened without the rating agencies," the commission concluded.

Thanks to these documents, we now know how that happened. And showing as they do the back-and-forth between the country's top ratings agencies and one of America's biggest investment banks (Morgan Stanley) in advance of two major subprime deals, they also lay out in detail the evolution of the industrywide fraud that led to implosion of the world economy – how banks, hedge funds, mortgage lenders and ratings agencies, working at an extraordinary level of cooperation, teamed up to disguise and then sell near-worthless loans as AAA securities. It's the black box in the American financial airplane.

In April, Moody's and Standard & Poor's settled the lawsuits for a reported $225 million. Brought by a diverse group of institutional plaintiffs with King County, Washington, and the Abu Dhabi Commercial Bank taking the lead, the suits accused the ratings agencies of conspiring in the mid-to-late 2000s with Morgan Stanley to fraudulently induce heavy investment into a pair of doomed-to-implode subprime-laden deals, called Cheyne and Rhinebridge.

Stock prices for both companies soared at the settlement, with markets believing the firms would be spared the hell of reams of embarrassing evidence thrust into public view at trial. But in a quirk, an earlier judge's ruling had already made most of the documents in the case public. Although a few news outlets, including The New York Times, took note at the time, the vast majority of the material was never reported, and some was never seen by reporters at all. The cases revolved around a highly exotic and complex financial instrument called a SIV, or structured investment vehicle.

The SIV is a not-so-distant cousin of the special purpose entity, or SPE, which was the main weapon of destruction in the Enron scandal. The corporate scam du jour in those days was mass accounting fraud, in which a company would create an ostensibly independent corporate structure that would actually be controlled by its own executives, who would then move their company's liabilities off their own books and onto the remote-controlled SPE, hiding the firm's losses.

The SIV is a similar concept. They first started showing up in the late Eighties after banks discovered a loophole in international banking standards that allowed them to create SPE-like repositories full of assets like mortgage-backed securities and keep them off their own books.

These behemoths operated on the same basic concept as an ordinary bank, which borrows short-term cash from depositors and then lends money long-term in the form of things like mortgages, business loans, etc. The SIV did the same thing, borrowing short-term from investors and then investing long-term on things like student loans, car loans, subprime mortgages. Like banks, a SIV made money on the spread between its short-term debt and long-term investments. If a SIV borrowed on the commercial paper market at 3 percent but earned 6.5 percent on subprime mortgages, that was an easy 3.5 percent profit.

The big difference is a bank has regulatory capital requirements. A SIV doesn't, and being technically independent, its potential liabilities don't show up on the books of the megabank that created it. So the SIV structure allowed investment banks to create and take advantage of, without risk, billions of dollars of things like subprime loans, which became the centerpiece of the new trendy corporate scam – creating and then selling masses of risky mortgage-backed securities as AAA investments to institutional suckers."

...continue reading at the link above

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/23/13 09:24 PM

My comment : First time in mainstream Media... We'll see if this is really going to happen by the end of this month according to rumors.

We’re In The Midst of A Global Currency Reset
http://investmentwatchblog.com/were-in-the-midst-of-a-global-currency-reset/#2

"Let’s examine the rumors that are floating around.

1. The Fed Reserve will merge or absorb into the UST

2. There IS a global event that has been unfolding during the past ten-plus years. The Basel III Protocols (which includes the Global Currency Reset) have required the cooperation of many nations — 198, to be exact.

3. What gets in the way from time to time with regard to this Global Currency Reset (as has just happened in the past few days) is political maneuvering and disagreements that delay things.

4. Fiat currency is becoming a thing of the past due to ongoing pervasive fraud and devaluation of paper currency – now it will have to be backed by assets (precious metals, oil, etc.) China would like to take over the US’s position as holding the world’s reserve currency in hopes to have their currency backed by gold. However, Clinton mentioned in one of her speeches that Iraq will become the richest nation in the world due to its oil reserves. Thereby, numerous nations that hold the Iraqi Dinar are looking to the IQD becoming the global reserve currency.

Basel III (or the Third Basel Accord) is a global, voluntary regulatory standard on bank capital adequacy, stress testing and market liquidity risk. It was agreed upon by the members of the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision in 2010–11, and was scheduled to be introduced from 2013 until 2015; Basel III was supposed to strengthen bank capital requirements by increasing bank liquidity and bank leverage.

5. Precious metals (gold and silver) prices are manipulated. Currently the price is dropping. Why? Something big is about to happen. What?

The Global Currency Reset will take those 198 nations currency and revalue it up or down based upon that country’s assets. For example, Canada will go up about 20 cents, along with the Dong and IQD going up. The USD may go down or not depending upon how much IQD they have in reserve – and because O had all the other nations that owe the US money agree to pay back what they owe when the reset happens taking the US out of debt.

Since the US has billions worth of UQD they can do several things. Exchange the IQD for gold thus taking the USD back to the gold standard. Hence the current USD will be collected and replace by the new currency. New currency expected to be distributed in the fall.

6. At the G-8 summit this year the talk among nations was how to collect taxes from tax dodgers. Basically the global banking system is tightening up its agreements between nations and will identify those who have been slipping through the current tax holes. Thus more tax return money for the nations who track down their tax dodgers.

So instead of a crash – which is inevitable given the current fiscal structure, there will be a Global Currency Reset which is in the works.

This aired on Bloomberg TV on July 25th. It is the FIRST time it has EVER been mentioned in the mainstream media…"
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/30/13 06:55 PM

My Comment: The news has been reporting Snowden's leaks how NSA spied on other countries. Now this will break international relationship trust & friendships with the US & Mystery(Secret) Babylon. Below is Stephen Jones blog about it.

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NSA bugged European Union offices, too
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...on-offices-too/
June 29, 2013 at 7:00 PM

"The NSA claims to have done nothing illegal in their spying activities on the American people.

Of course, they had to stretch the Patriot Act to make it legal.

And, of course, there is nothing illegal about spying on foreign countries. But then, such activities also undermine friendships. It is no wonder other countries are tired of US policy toward their supposed "friends."

The Russians don't like it.

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2013/0...mmit-in-london/

The Germans don't like it.

http://reason.com/24-7/2013/06/11/germany-is-the-european-country-nsa-spie

The Canadians don't like it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/06/08/nsa-spying-canada_n_3408662.html

The EU doesn't like it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/29...ld&ir=World

No wonder Edward Snowden is a secret hero to most other governments. No wonder no one wants to cooperate with the NSA and extradite Snowden to America for trial on charges of "treason." Is it any wonder that the BRICS nations are forming an alternate banking system that bypasses the dollar and the Fed? There would be no need for an alternative if the USA and its Fed bosses treated everyone fairly and equitably.

Scripture tells us that the beast will turn on the great whore who rides it. That is what we are witnessing today. The beast system does not love the whore. The whore has been whipping the beast for too long, and the beast is getting angry."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/08/13 10:31 PM

Edward Snowden reveals all-seeing SAURON eye in the sky
http://www.chronicle.su/news/snowden-unveils-nsa-spy-satellite-sauron-program-targeting-us-citizens/

on July 5th, 2013

MOSCOW, Russia – "Edward Snowden, the whistleblower who recently unveiled the NSA’s ubiquitous PRISM wiretapping program, unveiled yet another insidious, citizen-targeting surveillance system Friday afternoon, in a chat with Internet Chronicle reporters.

SAURON, or the Semi-Autonomous Ultra-high-Resolution Orbital Network, is comprised of a series of hundreds of low-orbiting cameras that can make out objects on the ground as small as 1 centimeter in size.

There are so many satellites in this network that they are able to effectively monitor the entire planet’s populated surface without interruption. According to slides Snowden shared, taken from the NSA presentation on SAURON, each spy satellite feeds directly into a data bank so large that it is able to retain the captured imagery indefinitely.

SAURON is also a reference to a villain in J.R.R. Tolkien’s “Lord of the Rings” trilogy, an evil god of discord who appears in the material world as an ever-searching eye.

Snowden, looking as if he hadn’t slept in weeks, spoke with Internet Chronicle reporters in the transit corridor of Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport. In a near whisper Snowden said, “It is shocking that the U.S. government would appropriate such evil imagery for a so-called security system like this. There is little doubt that this program – I won’t utter the name here – is not concerned with the security of citizens, but rather, it is a bald grab at power for power’s sake.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/14/13 08:04 PM

Egypt(Ousted Morsi of the Muslim Brotherhood) and Russia(Putin -- King of the East)

My comment : The oust of Morsi & the arrest of 200 Muslim Brotherhood leaders(details in post#153951 in the Hubris: Selling the Iraq War discussion) brought another level of the unveilling of Mystery(secret) Babylon. I find the following article quite informative giving some historical and current background of the working and purpose of the Nazi(faction of Mystery Babylon) behind the Muslim Brotherhood used to bring down Muslim countries like Iraq, Syria, Lybia, Afghanistan, etc.. to establish Mystery Babylon's Banking system to bring the country into debts and govern it through their established pup'pet ruler.

What's interesting is the writer's suggestion that Russia and China(Kings of the Easts) may have split their protecting & aiding different world sector in their common war against Mystery Baylon(Western World aka G7 or G8).

See the link of the original article to read the many references links available to support his statements.

Vladimir Putin ousts another White of the Western Nazi continuum

by Alcuin Bramerton

http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/

In the corridors of Western power, Vladimir Putin is not popular. He has a disconcerting habit of getting things done. Putin, a Russian patriot, started to reshape covert geopolitical power structures when he and his colleagues moved to stamp out the influence of the Rothschild and Rockefeller syndicate maggots at work inside Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989-90.

These parasites, mostly oligarchs, mummy-got-me-ready chess players, and P2 Lodge mafia proxies, were agents of the G7 Nazi continuum. Their aim was to secure Russian oil and gas to prop up the US petrodollar Ponzi nexus. They failed and, from 1998 onwards, Vladimir Putin made sure that they failed publicly.

Just as the Soviet Union was deliberately collapsed by the G7 élite syndicates, it had been deliberately constructed to fail by a previous generation of those same puppeteers many decades earlier.

The EuroZone was another bankster toy. Manufactured to launder unbacked fiat paper currency to Asia, it is now being collapsed by the very same banksters who set it up in the first place.

In Western fractional banking, it doesn't matter whether you build up or whether you smash down; you make big money each way and in the process you generate useful debt to control sovereign treasuries. After each collapse there is a fire sale. If you're a banker, you don't just buy the dips; you create the dips. Money is the mechanism which makes people poor.

With China and one hundred and eighty other BRICS alliance nations, Putin's Russia is teaching the G7 Nazi continuum a rather obvious lesson: fiat paper currencies are not money; gold is money.

What is happening worldwide now is that the BRICS nations are accumulating gold and beginning the process of freeing up the trillions (some say quadrillions) of dollars' worth of suppressed gold held outside the markets in the Global Collateral Accounts.

The G7, scenting the inevitable capitalist end-game, is rushing around trying to counter the BRICS alliance initiatives by rigging the markets to keep the price of gold down, by printing trillions of new fake dollars and euros on QE computer screens, by squeezing Western taxpayers with a media-backed austerity charade, and by accumulating off-ledger black-screen accounts which contain impossibly vast quadrillions and quintillions of notional syndicate wealth such as that found in the Committee of 300's White Spiritual Boy and Spiritual Wonder Boy accounts. More here, here and here.

Some say it all started with the Monaco Accords in August 2011; others say it started with the World War Two victors' carve-up at Bretton Woods in 1944. Still others say that it died with America's assassination of her own President in Dallas, Texas, in November 1963. John F.Kennedy had become too friendly with M1 in Indonesia for Shylock's liking. For the greater good of Western banking, it was time for him to die.

What has all this got to do with Putin and Morsi in Egypt in 2013? Everything. It's the same battle: the G7 banking syndicate versus the rest of the planet.

The outfit expediently fronted by Mohamed Morsi in Egypt, and now called the Muslim Brotherhood, had its origins as a terrorist organisation founded by the Nazis just before and during the Second World War. It was created by the Third Reich to provide uncritical cannon-fodder to fight against British and French colonial influences in the Middle East.

The Nazi-continuum is still embedded in several major Western governments, is still protected by rogue factions within their national security cadres, and it has kept the MB running in the background ever since. In the Western view, the radical 'Islamists' are useful fools to be manipulated, they don't cost much, and they can be made angry easily.

The Muslim Brotherhood, unbeknown to most of its current members, is a long-established Middle Eastern street gang which works for the Western banking syndicate to create opportunities for financial profit by fomenting unnecessary international conflict.

Its Egyptian branch, when briefly in government for a year between June 2012 and July 2013, lined up publicly with the private armies of the G7 war profiteers in an attempt to destabilise Syria. The plan was plain. Once Assad had gone, and the country was in ruins, its banks could be looted, its oil and gas could be stolen, foreign military bases could be established for drug trafficking purposes, and Qatar and Saudi Arabia could build their gas pipeline through Syria, unopposed, to supply Europe and support the US petrodollar scam.

Putin and the BRICS alliance saw all this. They agreed that there had to be régime change in Syria and that the Assad clique had to go; what they didn't want, and would not allow, was another capitalist looting fest by the G7 such as they had contrived in Korea, Vietnam, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.

Russia plus China, plus a changed Turkey, plus the US Pentagon patriots, now have more influence, collectively, within the Egyptian military than do the Washington DC private corporation and the City of London private corporation.

The exact division of labour between Russia and China within the BRICS alliance adjustment of global geopolitics is yet to become clear. It seems that Putin is looking after Europe and the Middle East, while the new Chinese leadership is seeing to Asia, Africa and Australia. China, for example, is a powerful driving force behind the imminent reunification of North and South Korea.

In Europe, Russia and Germany are privately and quietly growing closer. The EuroZone is now seen as a lost cause by most significant opinion-makers in Berlin on the simple grounds that it is not in Germany's financial interest, any more, to waste time with the little people.

This is particularly the case when one of Germany's biggest commercial institutions, Deutsche Bank AG (Frankfurt), has an international derivatives exposure of $72.8 trillion. This sum is in excess of twenty times more than the total GDP of Germany itself. Faced with a domestic ticking time bomb of this nature, Greece, Spain, Italy and, yes, France, can go hang.

The word on the block is that Angela Merkel of Germany is quietly pursuing an Ostpolitik with Russia of the kind which was originally initiated by Willy Brandt in the 1960s. This will result in a Russian/German-led Eurasian Union being slipped into place by 2015.

In the lead up to this long-desired Eurasian outcome, a new, strong currency DeutschmarkZone in Northern Europe is likely to emerge, involving Germany, The Netherlands, Luxembourg and Finland. France will be consigned to the outer darkness of a local and much-devalued French Franc. And Greece, Spain and Italy? They can eat olives. The Western banks have finished with them.

Late note: The brief thirteen month Muslim Brotherhood spell in Egyptian government was ended at the beginning of July 2013 by a cackhanded and anti-democratic military coup. If ever practical proof was needed that the Egyptian revolution was as yet incomplete, this was it. Among avoidable own goals scored by the Egyptian military at this juncture was the partisan suppression of Islamic media outlets, along with CNN and al-Jazeera TV, and the appointment of Mohamed ElBaradei as deputy interim president. Indeed, ElBaradei would have been shoehorned in as interim prime minister had not the Salafi Nour party strenuously blocked the appointment. ElBaradei is well known in Middle Eastern diplomatic circles for being a bought-and-paid-for asset of Western intelligence and corporate interests.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/19/13 12:51 PM

Glass-Steagall Act Would Be Revived In New Bill From Elizabeth Warren, Bipartisan Coalition

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/11/glass-steagall-act-elizabeth-warren_n_3580967.html

WASHINGTON -- A bipartisan group of four senators that includes Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) introduced an updated version of the landmark Glass-Steagall Act on Thursday, aimed at reining in risk at America's largest Wall Street banks.

The legislation is unlikely to be signed into law, but underscores a deepening rift between the House and Senate over financial accountability. While bipartisan coalitions in the House have been moving legislation to deregulate swaps -- the complex financial products at the heart of the 2008 banking collapse -- a host of Senate bills cracking down on Wall Street risk have garnered Democratic and GOP support.

The new bill, which is also cosponsored by Sens. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) and Angus King (I-Maine), would require banks that accept federally insured deposits to focus on traditional lending and would bar them from engaging in risky securities trading. The separation between lending and trading was originally imposed in 1933 by the Glass-Steagall Act. Cantwell and McCain previously introduced the plan as an amendment to the 2010 Dodd-Frank financial reform bill, but the largely symbolic bill was never approved. The legislation introduced today would also bar banks that accept insured deposits from dealing swaps or operating hedge funds and private equity enterprises.

"Since core provisions of the Glass-Steagall Act were repealed in 1999, shattering the wall dividing commercial banks and investment banks, a culture of dangerous greed and excessive risk-taking has taken root in the banking world," McCain said in a written statement. "Big Wall Street institutions should be free to engage in transactions with significant risk, but not with federally insured deposits."

McCain voted for the 1999 Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed Glass-Steagall. He also named one of that bill's authors, former Sen. Phil Gramm (R-Texas), an economic adviser to his 2008 presidential campaign.

Dodd-Frank attempted to rein in taxpayer-backed Wall Street speculation with the Volcker Rule, which barred banks that accept deposit insurance from placing securities and derivatives bets for their own accounts. But the Volcker Rule has not been finalized by regulators after nearly three years, and regulatory agencies have proposed a rule hundreds of pages long with a lengthy series of loopholes and exemptions. Forcing banks out of the securities business altogether would eliminate the regulatory wrangling over what types of trades violate the Volcker Rule.

Most federal regulators are opposed to reinstating Glass-Steagall, which would force big banks to spin off hundreds of billions of dollars worth of business into independent firms.

"Despite the progress we've made since 2008, the biggest banks continue to threaten the economy," Warren said in a written statement. "The four biggest banks are now 30 percent larger than they were just five years ago, and they have continued to engage in dangerous, high-risk practices that could once again put our economy at risk."

The legislation follows legislation from Sens. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) and David Vitter (R-La.) that would require big banks to hold significantly more capital as a cushion against losses, limiting the amount of debt-financed activity that banks could engage in. The bill would strongly encourage five of the six largest U.S. banks to break up into two or three smaller entities to avoid the strict new rules.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/19/13 01:27 PM

My Comment: Below is an CNBC interview where Elizabeth Warren presents the Glass-Seagall Act and is challenged by Jim Cramer CNBC Anchor. Elizabeth with historical facts disproved Jim argument that this act is not going to stop Bank crashing as it has been since 1980. That was a very poor argument for the banks started to crash AFTER the glass-steagall act suppressed and finally was repealed in 1999. When the act was in place, it kept banks from crashing for 50 years from 1933 to the early 1980s.

This CNBC you-tube interview went viral on the net. Since youtube is allied with Mystery Babylon and this didn't serve their mistress well, they removed the interview from youtube.

The whole inteview can be watch at the newslink below or only the segment of the anchor man below :



Elizabeth Warren Schools CNBC Anchors On The History Of Financial Regulation (VIDEO)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/17/elizabeth-warren-cnbc-anchors_n_3610893.html

"Elizabeth Warren has a message for any television personalities questioning the merits of increased financial regulation: You’re wrong.

During a media tour last week to bring attention to a bill the Senator proposed with Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and others aimed at preventing banks from making risky bets with Americans’ savings, CNBC personality Brian Sullivan asked her to back his assertion that no law can prevent major bank busts.

“No that is just wrong,” Warren said in response.

Warren went on to prove her point by giving the CNBC anchors a quick lesson in history of financial regulation, noting that in the 50 years after the passage of Glass-Steagall, the bill which Warren’s proposal is modeled after, none of the big banks failed.

“We kept the system steady and secure and it was only as we started deregulating,” that bank failure become a real risk, Warren said. “You are not going to defend the proposition that regulation can never work, it did work.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/19/13 01:31 PM

Elizabeth Warren’s Takedown Of CNBC Removed From YouTube
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/18/elizabeth-warren-cnbc-youtube_n_3619939.html

"A viral clip of Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) ripping into the hosts of CNBC's "Squawk Box" has been removed from the senator's YouTube channel.

According to a message on YouTube, NBC Universal requested that the video be taken down on copyright grounds.

A CNBC spokesperson did not immediately return a request for comment.

Warren appeared on "Squawk Box" last Friday to tout her proposed update of the Glass-Steagall Act. The bill, introduced by Warren and Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) and Angus King (I-Maine) is aimed at reining in risk at the nation's biggest banks. During the interview, Warren countered CNBC's Brian Sullivan on the assertion that financial regulation can't prevent banks' risky bets.

"That is just wrong," Warren said. "We kept the system steady and secure and it was only as we started deregulating that bank failure become a real risk... You are not going to defend the proposition that regulation can never work, it did work."

Thanks in part to a post on Upworthy, the clip went viral. According to Upworthy's Adam Mordecai, the post on Warren's remarks amassed over 700,000 page views as of Wednesday.

"It's weird that they would try to shut down a sitting senator's comments," Mordecai said. "[The YouTube clip] is unedited, it's stuff they had on their network."

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/19/13 01:39 PM

My Comments: Here's an 4 year old news link about the glass-steagall act repeal being responsible for the Financial Crisis. This is taken from Stephen's post 4 years ago.

The Financial Crisis began ten years ago today
Nov 12, 2009
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/12/a...to-reverse-san/

"Ten years ago today, Nov. 12, 1999, the Glass-Steagall Act from 1933 was repealed in order to allow Citicorp and Travelers to merge, creating Citigroup, a bank that was "too big to fail."

This was done with the support of Robert Rubin and Larry Summers, as the article above shows.

Quote:
Weill, at the time the CEO of Citicorp, got then-Treasury SecretaryRobert Rubin's support for what turned out to be a disastrous regulatory change, one that was finally passed as Rubin passed the baton to his successor -- Larry Summers (now director of President Obama's National Economic Council). That's because the repeal freed Citi to combine commercial, consumer and investment banking into a one-stop shop -- and created a recipe for financial disaster.

The incest going on between government and big business is a recipe for something called Fascism. Most people do not know what Fascism is, other than to associate it with Italy's Mussolini during World War II. But it is the takeover of government by big corporations, so that the government, in essence, becomes the servant of the corporations--the banks in particular.

According to the Wikipedia, Robert Rubin, who supported the repeal of Glass-Steagall, went on to become a bigwig in Citigroup, the company that had benefited from his political clout. In those eight years, "he received more than $126 million in cash and stock."

Quote:
His most prominent post-government role was as Director and Senior Counselor of Citigroup, where he performed ongoing advisory and representational roles for the firm.[1] From November to December 2007, he served temporarily as Chairman of Citigroup.[2][3] On January 9, 2009 Citigroup announced his resignation, after having been criticized for his performance.[4] He received more than $126 million in cash and stock during his eight years at Citigroup.[4]

Larry Summers, too, pushed the same disastrous bill. Now he has been rewarded with a big-salary job in the Obama administration as Director of the National Economic Council. Do we really need him at the helm of our economic system?

On Oct. 14, 2009, Peter Cohan wrote an article, How Wall Street Bought Tim Geitner. Geitner is the current Treasury Secretary. Many of his aides receive big money from Wall Street and will certainly go back to their cushy jobs in the banks after they have worked so faithfully for them while employed by taxpayers.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/10/14/how-wall-street-bought-tim-geithner/

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Have you ever wondered why Wall Street was able to get $23.7 trillion from the federal government after making some bad bets that wiped out $30 trillion in stock market value worldwide and helped throw 15.1 million people out of work? Are you curious about how Wall Street's workers will earn record bonuses of $140 billion for 2009, according to The Wall Street Journal, while average folks, such as former airline captain Bryan Lawler take 50 percent pay cuts, according to The New York Times? Well, look no further than the office of the secretary of the treasury.

These are the people who caused the problem in the first place. They have conflicts of interest while they are employed in government. They all know that their government jobs are temporary, and that their more long-lasting careers lay in the banks that employed them in the past and will take them back in the future. So the government makes policies that help the big corporations at the expense of America--the people and the government itself.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/29/13 03:55 AM

More Resignations due to Pope Francis Apostolic letter removing immunity

Interesting announcement :
One of the Federal Reserve Governors, Elizabeth Duke has resigned effective September 1, 2013.

Janet Napolitano [Homeland Security] has resigned effective September 1, 2013.

Ben Bernanke has already announced last year he wanted to resign and apparently he said that he will step out before Sept 1.

All these and maybe more resignation could surface from day to day in the news because Pope Francis issued an Apostolic Letter on July 11 that will be effective September 1, 2013 that will "effectively stripped away the immunity of all judges, attorneys, government officials and all entities established under the Roman Curia [hint: All corporations are established under the Roman Curia]. All of these "persons" can now to be held accountable for war crimes, crimes against humanity, [hint: Divine Spirit is humanity], for the unlawful restrictions of the liberties of the divine spirit incarnate; for failure to settle the accounts; for continued prosecution of claims already settled, etc."

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/france...diziari_en.html
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/29/13 03:38 PM

My Comments : Below is a good sound interview with Bix Weir about the manipulation of the market since the computers and the coming crash. Mystery Babylon had planned this crash for their own purpose of controlling the world. But we all know that the Lord will bring them down and that's what we have been witnessing.

In the interview below, Bix stress that since the economic crash was known, Greenback was hired to put up a plan how to redistribute the new currencies back to the public as fast as possible to reduce public unrest. Bix estimate that there will be a hard transition time (the collapse of the fiat money system unto the gold backed new system) for 4 to 6 months and gives his opinion how to best prepare ourself here .

Interview: Bix Weir on Gold Manipulation and the Coming Crash

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/29/13 03:50 PM

Here's another view coming from an ex-financial Christian man named Bob who wrote this in his blog recently :

Manipulation further exposed

http://www.servias.org/?p=2047

This week JP Morgan announced it is exiting the physical commodity trade business amid scrutiny. See: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jpmorgan-exit-physical-commodities-business-195443069.html

Let’s review the scandals:

1. Banks manipulated Mortgage-backed Securities which led to the 2008 meltdown

2. Banks manipulated the LIBOR rate which sets interest rates worldwide on trillions of dollars of investments

3. Banks manipulate the gold and silver commodities

4. Banks manipulate the aluminum market

We must conclude that banks virtually manipulate the entire “current” financial markets in one form or another. They have done this for years with impunity. When they got into trouble, governments bailed them out with taxpayer funds or newly created money, a future liability to taxpayers. This fraudulent behavior is worldwide. The deception is so widespread that it would be hard to find a jurisdiction that was not affected. What about your local bank? Unfortunately its interconnectedness to the larger banks put it at risk as well. Let me explain.

On a daily basis, the local bank sells its excess funds to a larger “correspondent” bank who has an ongoing relationship with it. These funds are called “Fed Funds”. A smaller bank might sell $10 million to the larger bank overnight. The next morning the smaller bank receives the $10 million plus one day of interest income. The larger bank will accumulate funds from many of its correspondent banks and sell to a money center bank such as Citibank, JP Morgan, etc. Typically it will make a small margin buying and selling. I worked the cash desk at the largest bank in Oklahoma in the 1970’s where I bought and sold around $100 million in Fed Funds. Our overall deposits were about $650 million. Our capital structure was under $100 million. Effectively I sold more cash than our capital structure or stockholder equity. This happened every day of the year. What would happen if the New York bank failed to deliver back our money? We would immediately become insolvent. What would happen if we failed to deliver our smaller correspondent banks’ money? They would also be insolvent. These funds are sent through the Federal Reserve wire system. The Fed has full knowledge of everyone’s accounts but it is all electronic money. Currency never moves between banks in this market.

As you can see the current system is so interwoven that if one of the money center banks went insolvent, it could take down the entire system. This current system is built on trust since there is no gold backing any of the money being traded. The same is true for your bank deposits, your pension balance, your social security, and your stock brokerage account.

I am not excited about being the purveyor of bad news. I relay this information so that you can make adjustments to your financial state. Be cautious going forward. Simplify, get rid of “stuff”. Get out of debt. Buy a little silver each month. Keep the cupboard full of non-perishable food and rotate it to keep the food fresh. Keep your vehicle serviced. Try to lower your ongoing monthly bills if possible. Pain is sure to come to the masses. I cannot tell you when for Our Heavenly Father has not told me. However, as you focus on hearing HIS Voice, HE will guide your steps in the turbulent times ahead. I am convinced that Love will see us all through the coming economic storm. HIS thoughts are above our thoughts, HIS ways are above our ways. HIS Love has all the answers needed to endure the trouble ahead. The Remnant will have taken on HIS Nature and will be plugged into the solution. The rest of the world will be looking to this Remnant to show them the Way. The illusions the populace were led to believe will be exposed and they will realize they have been blinded to the point of trusting a system built on smoke and mirrors. There will be much gnashing of teeth. If you have been forewarned about the coming challenges then you can deal with any fear that might try to grip your heart. There will be many with much fear and desperation. They will need to hear a calming voice. It will not be the end of the world, only the end of a failed system.

Checklist
Sunday, July 28th, 2013

If you believe that the current economic system of fiat currency is at risk of failure, then-

To minimize personal pain if and when the coming economic crisis arrives:

1. Your equities are held in certificate form.
2. You have no Federal retirement funds.
3. You have no CDs and investments in bonds.
4. You store your own precious metals.
5. You have no mortgage obligations.
6. You keep cash on hand for 6 months expenses.
7. You have no consumer debt at all.

If you believe that the current economic system is solid and will continue indefinitely, then-

1. Do nothing, all is safe and good.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/30/13 08:01 PM

Elle, regarding a post you made some time past. Do you at any time ever profit if anyone should buy gold or silver? Some of your sites listed do.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/03/13 12:53 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Elle, regarding a post you made some time past. Do you at any time ever profit if anyone should buy gold or silver? Some of your sites listed do.

no
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/03/13 01:36 PM

Jim Willie says, Three large banks near collapse

My comments : In the link below economist Jim Willie informs of the latest. The narration below is taken from an interview that Jim is part of. The full content of the interview is available at the link below. I only included some parts of it in this post.

In this interview there’s two main discussion :
1) What’s going on in the gold and silver markets by which is severely manipulated that is causing a massive shortage of metals.
2) That 3 major Banks are near collapse by which if any does collapse will bring down the rest. Just like the ex-finance Christian Bob was saying in post #154532 above.

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http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-everything-points-to-gold/

AUGUST 2, 2013 BY THE DOC

"Willie stated that the allocated gold account theft scandal will break soon, and could be the largest bank scandal in history.... the next Western bank to fail will trigger a massive contagion throughout the Western banking system, potentially bringing even Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan to their knees! ...

The most important point to start with regarding the gold market is that there’s no equilibrium regarding supply and demand. According to basic economics, what you should see is that demand clears supply and the supply satisfies the demand. We’re not seeing either! We’re seeing shortages and huge demand. Shortage in supply, and unspeakable demand across the whole world. We’re seeing pockets of shortages, pockets of different availability, different prices here and there, different premiums here and there- the whole market is disrupted!...

The dominant player in the COMEX gold inventory draw-downs you mentioned is JP Morgan. What’s even more telling of the criminality besides the empty vaults is the ravaging and the pillaging of the GLD holdings! They are going down massively with the plummeting JPM and COMEX inventories....

It’s so ugly that in the silver market, JPMorgan has not yet satisfied and delivered on the June silver futures contracts! It’s so ugly that using hidden entities that Andrew Maguire has detected in London, JPM is using hidden entities to hog 90% of the July silver deliveries! It appears that JPM doesn’t have the silver to meet June delivery, and is trying to replenish their own vaults by taking delivery in London, secretly, to replenish their inventory! Where are they getting it from? Maybe the SLV!

The JPM clients have removed between December and June- close to 40,000 kg of gold- thats 40 metric tons. While JPM’s house account has removed over 40 tons in the same period! What’s the lesson there? It appears JPM’s best friends and clients don’t trust them anymore!...

My best German source informs me that 3 major banks are in trouble, and these 3 banks are fighting every single night to fight off insolvency and failure. He says CitiGroup in New York, Barclays in London, and Deutsche Bank in Germany- every single night are in trouble.

The important thing to keep in mind about Deutsche Bank is that it won’t go down alone if it goes down at all. If it fails, it will take along with it 3,4,5,6 or 10, or 15 other banks! It will be 1 or 2 quickly, then a 3rd and 4th a few weeks later, another, then before you know it, all of Italy and their major banks would be kaput....

Don't bet your money that Deutsche Bank will go down, but if it does, the next day its going to be Citi, Barclays, HSBC, Morgan Stanley, Soc Gen, and big threats to JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs!

In conclusion, Deutsche Bank owns $25 trillion in OTC swaps with the Central banks and other major banks, so expect a daisy chain of derivative failures for the $1.6 quadrillion derivative market if it were to fail! Deutsche Bank cannot break down by itself. It would result in the complete breakdown of the European Monetary Union!...

A bank failure contagion, that’s whats going to push gold way over $2,000/oz again. Silver is going to be moving over $100 and gold is going over $5,000, I’m as certain of it as I am that the sun will rise in the east in the morning come January...."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/02/13 05:07 AM

NEIL KEENAN UPDATE: KEENAN GROUP CLOSES IN ON THE CABAL
http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2013/09/01...cabal-2-videos/

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Ø Global security force lines up to close down the corrupt elite

Ø A new International Court takes shape, backed by 90% of United Nations member countries

Ø Not just a PR show court, but licensed, legitimate, and enforceable

Ø The final pieces fall into place: control of the assets; 173 nation alliance; a powerful global security force…and the rule of law

by Michael Henry Dunn

September 1st, 2013 – From the outset of Neil Keenan’s trillion-dollar lawsuit against the corrupt Western banking elite and bloodline families, the scoffers asked, “Who could ever enforce a judgment? And what duly authorized international policing entity could provide the global muscle needed to actually shut down this all-pervasive web of influence, which is woven into every power structure, be it financial, political, military, educational, agricultural, or pharmaceutical? And where will the funds come from to back this massive effort?”

Welcome to the end game.

The latest word from The Keenan Group is that the legal basis, the financial leverage, the enforcement/security apparatus, and the cooperation of the global community needed to bring the fight for freedom to a close are now coming into alignment.

Those spearheading this fight have known for decades that only a slow and careful undermining of the cabal’s foundations would ultimately remove this global cancer, that violent revolutions are a tragic mistake – that such bloody convulsions have been, in fact, the elite’s favorite tool of control for centuries, creating the chaos that has allowed them to seize ever tighter control of humanity in the name of “order.” As David Wilcock recently pointed out, the fall of the Soviet Union seemed to happen overnight – but it had been carefully planned for decades by Russian patriots, who painstakingly removed the props of power beneath Bolshevik hegemony over years of quiet planning. Violent revolutions almost always result in chaos and greater tyranny. Storming the Bastille was no doubt a glorious experience for the oppressed people of France, but it led directly to the Reign of Terror and the ultimate rise of Napoleon, while the Rothschilds played both sides against the middle to amass mind-boggling wealth – and the foundation of their long-term plans to control the global banking system.

It would appear that the Keenan Group’s meticulous undermining of the corrupt oligarchy – the penetration of their operations, the hacking of their accounts, the careful crafting of alliances, the establishment of authentic legal mechanisms for their arrest, the assembling of a legitimate security force – and most importantly, the restoration of the stolen wealth of the nations to a globally sanctioned guardianship – are now almost all in place. It all comes back to the Accounts. The elite’s fraudulent mirroring of the Global Collateral Accounts might be compared to the Ring of Power in Middle Earth. When it was destroyed, the founding malice of the Dark Tower simply disintegrated, and the seemingly impregnable fortress slid to the earth, a pile of rubble. When The Keenan Group’s final moves to control the assets are made, we can expect the fraudulent foundation of the fiat currency empire to vanish with startling speed. The allied ancient clans of Asia have joined forces with Mr. Keenan in the wake of his recent meetings with the influential Count Albert Chiang in Hong Kong, and The Keenan Group’s plans for controlling the assets are well underway.

The exact nature of the global security forces that will hunt down and arrest cabal leaders and operatives may not now be revealed, for obvious reasons. Mr. Keenan is deliberately vague on this point in the video message taped yesterday. He will leave it to the cabalists to wonder which faction has turned against them, which intelligence operatives are actually moles, which elements of Interpol, or MI6, or CIA, or the NSA, or the Russian FSB, or NATO, or the Pentagon are actually freedom fighters, which well-bribed judge has had a crisis of conscience, which Mossad tough guy finally had his fill of Zionist slaughter in the name of Bilderberg profit…or which White head-of-state may be waiting for the moment to take a chance on the victory of humanity. To these courageous ones may be added the thousands of timid and terrified cabalist mid-level operatives who will turn state’s evidence with a vengeance…once they see a prominent global elitist hobbling through a “perp walk” in ankle bracelets. They may already be collecting evidence to offer in exchange for their lives or their freedom, as they see their escape routes disappear.

Meanwhile, the shape of the new International Court of Human Rights is becoming clear. Neil Keenan arranged for this writer to have an extended interview yesterday with an international lawyer/jurist who is helping to establish the nature and standing of this new court – a global human rights court which is already licensed in a free country belonging to the non-aligned movement. This distinguished judge has been working closely with Mr. Keenan for the last two years. The aftermath of the cabal’s fall will entail a crying need for an untainted, globally recognized international court, possessing a solid legal foundation, effective jurisdiction world-wide, and most importantly, swift enforcement mechanisms to see that justice is done.

The so-called international courts of justice now in existence are (as may be expected) globalist frauds. The International Court of Justice, The International Criminal Court, The European Union Human Rights Court, the Inter-American Court of Central and South America, the African Union Court all share the same fundamental legal flaws. Unlike an authentic court, they are not “courts of record” – in other words, the cases are not published, their database is not searchable, and the cases refused a hearing are not revealed. These courts were all established by treaties which require the consent of the accused party – in other words, a nation which may have committed human rights violations may simply refuse to participate in the treaty, thereby removing itself (as the U.S. has done) from the court’s jurisdiction.

In addition, these courts require that all legal remedies against the accused government should first have been exhausted before the court will hear the case. So if you have a million or so dollars to waste on processing a case through half a dozen layers of a corrupt and hostile judicial system, you may then have a chance – perhaps – to have a hearing in the international court.

Like so many cabal-designed institutions, these courts exist to thwart and prevent the very purpose which they were supposedly founded to accomplish. The World Bank was created to eliminate poverty – it has dedicated itself to expanding impoverishment amid crushing global debt. The United Nations was supposedly created to protect the sovereignty of all nations through global peacekeeping – little need be said on that score. And the international courts exist largely to create officially sanctioned sink-holes where human rights abuse cases go to die.

The new court now taking shape is markedly different. Firstly, it is not established by treaty (as with the fraudulent present courts whose jurisdiction may be escaped by gross offenders simply by withdrawal from the treaty), but by letters of agreement from the ministers of justice (or equivalent office) of the 173 countries (fully 90% of the membership of the U.N.) in the non-aligned movement who have joined forces to defeat the cabal, in which they commit their nations to honor the jurisdiction of the court. Secondly, it will be a fully established court of record, with all cases published, constituting the searchable database necessary for a living body of law to have legitimacy. Thirdly, it will proceed with its mission as a global human rights court on the basis of Common Law, and the body of international convention established in constructive contract law. Not the mysterious, phony NESARA or OPPT super-secret, backroom-deal, non-laws promulgated by internet fraudsters, but the accumulated precedents of centuries, open to the scrutiny of all, and duly published.

And for those global elitists who are smugly scoffing as they read these lines, thinking “yeah, come and get me, do-gooders – see if you can touch my money or my freedom!” – we have some startling news. As the court’s rules will be established on the foundation of contract law, they will function in cooperation with the International Chamber of Commerce, which by current U.N.-sanctioned treaty signed by nearly every country in the world (including the U.S.) allows for immediate collection through local mechanisms of any and all judgments, by means of wage garnishment, asset seizure, and all other appropriate means.

The Indonesian judges and other officials who are alleged to have illegally conspired to keep Martha Wibawa (called Nelu) in prison should take note. A complaint against them is being prepared, and their names are known. A window of time may remain for this situation to be resolved, but the complaint is proceeding.

Or again, the global elitist may simply cry, “I refuse to recognize the jurisdiction of your court!” Well, good luck with that one. The “shrink-wrap” precedent whereby software companies bind you to their terms of agreement when you tear the wrapping also applies here. What’s good for the cabal goose is good for the alliance gander – the elite put people in jail and seize their assets everyday on the basis of the precedents of consent by failure to appear, or recognition of jurisdiction through the act of response itself. The new court will apply the same precedent. There is really no way out of this one, boys and girls.

We are the world. And you are not.

And there is that little matter of the new global police force, soon to make its debut. As Mr. Keenan states in the accompanying video, this force will operate independently of the corrupt governments, will be funded from the Global Accounts, and guided by new international peace-keeping agreements aimed at establishing a safe arena for healthy competition for markets in a multi-polar world – one in which the absence of a deliberately created scarcity will make war a thing of the past. Once there is a million times more than is needed to sustain the planet – a rough estimate of the true wealth of planet earth – then the endless warring for resources may finally cease.

We’re not there yet. And the end game will have rough spots. There is much that cannot now be told. Keenan has aces up his sleeve. And always a song on his lips. This one’s straight and edgy and tells it like it is. “Matt G.” with the Best Anti-Illuminati/NWO Song of 2012 – “Broken Monitors.”

Pass it along to wake up a friend.

Michael Henry Dunn

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/03/13 07:44 PM

This is a pretty good presentation of the derivitive market, what the bank legal documents and government say if there is a bank failure, and the risk people take in leaving their money in the large banks.

Take Your Money Out of the Bank!

[video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M-2eJQqXm7s#t=736[/video]
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/04/13 02:43 PM

My comments: I missed this article which was dated in March of this year. We see that the BRICS are setting up a new banking system.

BRICS agree on $50bn IMF rival bank, ‘difficult’ details remain
March 26, 2013 10:47

http://rt.com/business/bank-rival-imf-world-852/
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The ‘big five’ of the developing world, the BRICS nations, have agreed to create their own version of the World Bank at their fifth annual summit, which kicked off Tuesday in sunny Durban, South Africa.

The five BRICS states agreed to establish the BRICS Development Bank, South African Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan said on Tuesday.

The move is linked to the developing world’s disillusionment with the status quo of world financial institutions. The World Bank and IMF continue to favor US and European presidents over BRICS nations, and in 2010, the US failed to ratify a 2010 agreement which would allow more IMF funds to be allocated to developing nations.

"Not long ago we discussed the formation of a developmental bank... Today we are ready to launch it," South African President Jacob Zuma said on Monday.


The ‘big five’- Brazil, Russia, India, China, and its newest addition, South Africa, come together for the annual conference this year in Durban, South Africa in hopes of establishing a new development bank which will fund infrastructure and development projects in the five member states, and will pool foreign currencies to fend off any impending financial crisis.

The BRICS have called for a reconstruction of the World Bank and IMF, which were created in 1944, and want to put forth their own ‘Bretton Woods’ accord. And they are serious.

"Brics is not a talk show. It is a serious grouping," Zuma told reporters at the presidential guest house in Pretoria.

The new bank will cater to developing world interests and will symbolize a great economic and political union.

“There’s a shift in power from the traditional to the emerging world. There is a lot of geo-political concern about this shift in the western world,” Martyn Davies, chief executive officer of Johannesburg-based Frontier Advisory, told Bloomberg.

“A future BRICS Investment Bank is seen as a mechanism that would help realize where money should go, agree development strategies and coordinate investment," explained Georgy Toloraya, the executive director of Russia’s national committee for BRICS studies to SA News.

In its nebulous stage, the new BRICS bank is unanimously supported by all five member states. In Durban, problems will arise on how to govern, fund, and operate the grand venture.

“When you set up a bank like this it’s not just a question of opening the doors. There are some issues about where it is going to be located, what the capital contributions are going to be, the rules of deploying that investment. These are the sort of details that are in various stages of discussion and negotiation,” said South African Trade Minister Rob Davies, in a statement.

The leaders may not reach a specific agreement in Durban this week, as each country has its own stipulations on its creation. Russia, for example, wants to cap each side’s initial contribution to $10 billion, according to Mikhail Margelov, part of President Putin’s team in South Africa.



Emergency Currency Fund
Pooling currency to deflect a future crisis is also a high priority topic set for the conference.

Once a loose political affiliation, the BRICS bloc is now a serious economic contender in the world economy, representing 40% of the world’s population, and accounting for one fifth of global GDP.

Between the five countries, the bloc holds foreign-currency reserves of $4.4 trillion, and needs an institution to safeguard this amassing wealth. The reserve will also protect members from short-term liquidity volatility and balance-of-payment problems.

Presently, it is proposed the member states contribute an equal share to the fund, but there is still dispute over whether to involve IMF management. India has voiced support for IMF involvement, but other BRICS countries may resist.

“A reserve pool, I think, is still some way off, ” said Davies.

In October, Brazilian Finance Minister Guido Mantega suggested the pool be modeled after the Chiang Mai Initiative, which provides a financial safety blanket to south east Asian countries.

Trade within the group swelled to $282 billion last year and could very well reach $500 billion by 2015, according to Brazilian government data.

Currency swap
Meanwhile, ahead of the official opening of the summit Finance ministers Lou Jiwei of China and Guido Mantega of Brazil signed a multi-billion currency swap agreement between their countries as the BRICS group works to lessen trade dependence on the US dollar and the euro.

Brazil's Mantega said the agreement involves using local currencies for up to $30 billion of trade with China, nearly half its annual $75 billion trade with Beijing.

"Our memorandum is a kind of umbrella agreement in the context of a closer relationship with China in the finance, economic, commercial and border areas," Guido Mantega said.

As the financial crisis continues to rage across the eurozone and the developed countries show little signs of growth, the World Bank says that global economic growth is increasingly dependent on the BRICS countries, which account for 27% of global purchasing power and 45% of the world's workforce.


Many Firsts
The conference is a benchmark of many firsts. It is the first time the conference has been held on South African soil.

For China, it is President Xi’s first visit to South Africa, where China is a leading trading partner and investor. In 2012, the trade between the two countries was 201bln ZAR ($21bln), according to the South African Revenue Service.


June 18, 2012. Delegation leaders from countries participating in the emerging economies association BRICS: Brazil's President Dilma Rusef, Russian President Vladimir Putin, Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Chinese President Hu Jintao and South African President Jacob Zuma (from left) at a photograph session during a meeting at the hotel "One and Only Palmilia" in Los Cabos, Mexico.(RIA Novosti / Aleksey Nikolskyi)

The conference is also President Vladimir Putin’s first international visit in 2013.

For South Africa, which makes up just 2.5% of total gross domestic product in BRICS, the summit is a way to showcase its role as an investment gateway to Africa. South Africa is the newest and smallest member of the BRIC bloc. It has the 28th highest ranked GDP in the world: China is 2nd, Brazil 6th, Russia 9th and India 10th.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/11/13 04:09 PM

UPDATE 2-Poland reduces public debt through pension funds overhaul

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/04/poland-pensions-idUSL6N0H02UV20130904
Wed Sep 4, 2013 12:56pm EDT
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* Reform moves bond assets from private to state fund

* Some equity assets to gradually move to state as well

* Changes seen reducing Polish public debt by 8 pct of GDP

* Funds say moves could be unconstitutional

* Warnings that private pension funds could be wiped out

By Dagmara Leszkowicz and Chris Borowski

WARSAW, Sept 4 (Reuters) - Poland said on Wednesday it will transfer to the state many of the assets held by private pension funds, slashing public debt but putting in doubt the future of the multi-billion-euro funds, many of them foreign-owned.

The changes went deeper than many in the market expected and could fuel investor concerns that the government is ditching some business-friendly policies to try to improve its flagging popularity with voters.

The Polish pension funds' organisation said the changes may be unconstitutional because the government is taking private assets away from them without offering any compensation.

Announcing the long-awaited overhaul of state-guaranteed pensions, Prime Minister Donald Tusk said private funds within the state-guaranteed system would have their bond holdings transferred to a state pension vehicle, but keep their equity holdings.

He said that what remained in citizens' pension pots in the private funds will be gradually transferred into the state vehicle over the last 10 years before savers hit retirement age.

The reform is "a decimation of the ...(private pension fund) system to open up fiscal space for an easier life now for the government," said Peter Attard Montalto of Nomura. "The government has an odd definition of private property given it claims this is not nationalisation."

Tusk said people joining the pension system in the future would not be obliged to pay into the private part of the system. Depending on the finer points, this could mean still fewer assets in the private funds.

"The (current) system has turned out to be built in part on rising public debt and turned out to be a very costly system," Tusk told a news conference.

"We believe that, apart from the positive consequence of this decision for public debt, pensions will also be safer."


MARKET FEARS
By shifting some assets from the private funds into ZUS, the government can book those assets on the state balance sheet to offset public debt, giving it more scope to borrow and spend.

Finance Minister Jacek Rostowski said the changes will reduce public debt by about eight percent of gross domestic product (GDP).

This in turn, he said, would allow the lowering of two thresholds that deter the government from allowing debt to raise over 50 percent, and then 55 percent, of GDP. Public debt last year stood at 52.7 percent of GDP, according to the government's own calculations.

The private funds hold assets worth about one fifth of Polish economic output and are among the biggest investors on the Warsaw bourse. Players in the pension market include international firms such as ING, Aviva, Axa , Generali and Allianz.

Bonds make up roughly half the private funds' portfolios, with the rest company stocks.

Soon after Tusk unveiled his plans, the benchmark index on the Warsaw stock exchange was down 2.6 percent on the day.

"This is worse than many on the markets had feared," a manager at one of the leading pension funds, who asked not to be identified, told Reuters.

"The devil is in the detail and we don't yet know a lot about the mechanism of these changes, what benchmarks will be use to evaluate our performance... (It) looks like pension funds will lose a lot of flexibility in what they can invest."

Polish officials have tried to reassure investors, saying the overhaul avoids the more radical options of taking both bond and equity assets away from the private funds outright.

They say the old system effectively made Polish public debt appear higher than it really is.


UNCERTAIN FUTURE FOR FUNDS
Poland has a hybrid pension system at the moment; mandatory contributions are made into both the state pension vehicle, known as ZUS, and the private funds, which are collectively known by the Polish acronym OFE.

The funds would effectively be left with only the equities portions of their assets, even this would be depleted, and there will be uncertainty about the number of new savers joining.

"This may lead to the private pension systems shutting down," said Rafal Benecki of ING Bank Slaski.

Policy in Poland is still much more prudent than in many of its European peers. However, the reform could erode Poland's reputation under Tusk for steady financial stewardship.

In the past few months, the opinion poll rating of Tusk's Civic Platform party has, for the first time in years, slipped below that of the main opposition, the conservative Law and Justice Party.

Though the next election is not until 2015, some analysts believe electoral concerns are already influencing economic policy and pushing the government to find scope for spending.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/11/13 04:20 PM

Poland Confiscates Half Of Private Pension Funds To "Cut" Sovereign Debt Load
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-09-06...reign-debt-load

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/06/2013
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While the world was glued to the developments in the Mediterranean in the past week, Poland took a page straight out of Rahm Emanuel's playbook and in order to not let a crisis go to waste, announced quietly that it would transfer to the state - i.e., confiscate - the bulk of assets owned by the country's private pension funds (many of them owned by such foreign firms as PIMCO parent Allianz, AXA, Generali, ING and Aviva), without offering any compensation. In effect, the state just nationalized roughly half of the private sector pension fund assets, although it had a more politically correct name for it: pension overhaul.

By way of background, Poland has a hybrid pension system: as Reuters explains, mandatory contributions are made into both the state pension vehicle, known as ZUS, and the private funds, which are collectively known by the Polish acronym OFE. Bonds make up roughly half the private funds' portfolios, with the rest company stocks.

And while a change to state-pension funds was long awaited - an overhaul if you will - nobody expected that this would entail a literal pillage of private sector assets.

On Wednesday, Prime Minister Donald Tusk said private funds within the state-guaranteed system would have their bond holdings transferred to a state pension vehicle, but keep their equity holdings. The funds would effectively be left with only the equities portions of their assets, even this would be depleted, and there will be uncertainty about the number of new savers joining.

But why is Poland engaging in behavior that will ultimately be disastrous to future capital allocation in non-public pension funds (the type that can at least on paper generate some returns as opposed to "public" funds which are guaranteed to lose)? After all, this is a last ditch step which no rational person would engage in unless there were no other option. Simple: there were no other option, and the driver is the same reason the world everywhere else is broke too - too much debt.

By shifting some assets from the private funds into ZUS, the government can book those assets on the state balance sheet to offset public debt, giving it more scope to borrow and spend. Finance Minister Jacek Rostowski said the changes will reduce public debt by about eight percent of GDP. This in turn, he said, would allow the lowering of two thresholds that deter the government from allowing debt to raise over 50 percent, and then 55 percent, of GDP. Public debt last year stood at 52.7 percent of GDP, according to the government's own calculations.

To summarize:

1.Government has too much debt to issue more debt
2.Government nationalizes private pension funds making their debt holdings an "asset" and commingles with other public assets
3.New confiscated assets net out sovereign debt liability, lowering the debt/GDP ratio
4.Debt/GDP drops below threshold, government can issue more sovereign debt

And of course, once Poland borrows like a drunken sailor using the new window of opportunity, and maxes out its new and improved limits, it will have no choice but to confiscate more assets, and to make its balance sheet appear better, until one day, there is nothing left in the private sector to confiscate. At that point the limit itself will have to be legislated away, and Poland will simply continue borrowing until one day there are no foreign lenders willing to take the same risk as the nation's private pensioners. At that point, Poland, which is in the EU but still has the Zloty, can just go ahead and monetize its own debt by printing unlimited amounts of its currency.

Of course, we all know how that story ends.

The response to the confiscation was, naturally, one of shock:

Quote:
The reform is "a decimation of the ...(private pension fund) system to open up fiscal space for an easier life now for the government," said Peter Attard Montalto of Nomura. "The government has an odd definition of private property given it claims this is not nationalisation."

"This is worse than many on the markets had feared," a manager at one of the leading pension funds, who asked not to be identified, told Reuters.

"The devil is in the detail and we don't yet know a lot about the mechanism of these changes, what benchmarks will be use to evaluate our performance... (It) looks like pension funds will lose a lot of flexibility in what they can invest."
Catastrophic consequences for fund flows aside, the Polish prime minister had a prompt canned response:

Quote:
Tusk said people joining the pension system in the future would not be obliged to pay into the private part of the system. Depending on the finer points, this could mean still fewer assets in the private funds.

"The (current) system has turned out to be built in part on rising public debt and turned out to be a very costly system," Tusk told a news conference.

"We believe that, apart from the positive consequence of this decision for public debt, pensions will also be safer."

You see, he is from the government, and he is confiscating the pensions to make them safer. Confiscation is Safety and all that...

Quote:
Polish officials have tried to reassure investors, saying the overhaul avoids the more radical options of taking both bond and equity assets away from the private funds outright.

They say the old system effectively made Polish public debt appear higher than it really is.

Well, once you nationalize private assets, the public debt will lindeed appear lower than it was before confiscation: we give them that much.

End result: "The Polish pension funds' organisation said the changes may be unconstitutional because the government is taking private assets away from them without offering any compensation.... This may lead to the private pension systems shutting down," said Rafal Benecki of ING Bank Slaski."

Unconstitutional? What's that. But whatever it is, it's ok - after all the public pension system is still around. At least until that too is plundered. But in the meantime, all such pensions will be "safer", guaranteed.

But best of all, in the aftermath of Cyprus, we now know what the two most recent European blueprints for preserving the myth of solvency are: bail-ins, which confiscate deposits, and pension fund "overhauls", which confiscate, well, pension funds.

And now, back to the global recovery soap opera.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/14/13 02:58 AM

Gold and Silver Market Manipulation coming in the Open
My Comment : Bart Chilton, the commissioner of the CFTC(Commodities Futures Trade Commission) is suppose to prevent market manipulation in silver and gold. Well shamefully He was not very good at it.

In June 2012 two insider worker from JP Morgan bank whistleblowed to Chilton about how JP Morgan manipulated the market with heavy evidence. A year after, nothing much was done and Bart Chilton confess how shamefully the CFTC handle this investigation. http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/K...mp;_Silver.html

Chilton said in the link above
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“I can’t appropriately express my frustration and disappointment with how we’ve handled the silver investigation.... And, as you know, I’m prohibited from actually saying much. That said, I will not let September go by without speaking out if the agency doesn’t do so.”

So we probably will see many information about the manipulation of the silver and gold market in the news these coming days.

Chilton gave a big speech today and it can be read in its entirely at the CFTC website here : http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/SpeechesTestimony/opachilton-94
Here's a partial quote of that speech :
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The Brutality of Reality
“How about the re-al-i-ty of what you guys and others are trying to do? I’m talking about Average Joe end-users who are simply trying to hedge their legitimate business risks–whether it’s corn or beans; aluminum, silver or gold; nat gas or crude oil. The brutality of today’s reality is that these markets are so divorced from how they have operated historically–due in part to the Massive Passives and the cheetahs–it might seem like The Surreal Life. But, we aren’t being Punk’d. This is The Real World. That is, unless we do something.”

“The point of all this is that we are faced with a new reality ourselves–our financial world is a Shark Tank. There are more and more violations of the law occurring, and we aren’t equipped to deal. The bam-ba-lam bad norms in the financial sector seem to be commonplace.”

“The most disturbing part of this is that it is still nearly impossible to figure out exactly what banks own.”

“It’s time for an Intervention. Congress should not only do away with the statutory exemption that has been used by Goldman and Morgan, but also do away with the ability of the Fed to allow any commodity-related ownership by the banks whatsoever.”

“For those paying attention, there will likely be more cases filed by the CFTC in the next few weeks than we’ve seen in a long time. Stay tuned.”
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/14/13 11:26 PM

All this that you write has nothing to do with the "Elijah message".
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/15/13 01:53 AM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
All this that you write has nothing to do with the "Elijah message".
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And what is the "Elijah message" according to scriptures?
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/15/13 04:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: James Peterson
All this that you write has nothing to do with the "Elijah message".
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And what is the "Elijah message" according to scriptures?

"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children,
and the heart of the children to their fathers
."

Mal. 4:5-6
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/15/13 04:22 AM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: James Peterson
All this that you write has nothing to do with the "Elijah message".
....
..
And what is the "Elijah message" according to scriptures?

"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children,
and the heart of the children to their fathers
."

Mal. 4:5-6
And what is the great and dreadful day of the Lord?

And what does it means to "turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers"
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/15/13 03:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
1. And what is the great and dreadful day of the Lord?

2. And what does it means to "turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers"

1. The DREADFUL Day of he Lord (for the wicked): "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch." Mal. 1:1

2. The message of repentance: "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elijah is come already, and they knew him not." (Mat. 17:11-12) Jesus was speaking about John the Baptist who had already come and who testified saying, "I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Isaiah!" John 1:23
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/16/13 02:41 AM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
1. And what is the great and dreadful day of the Lord?

2. And what does it means to "turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers"

1. The DREADFUL Day of he Lord (for the wicked): "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch." Mal. 1:1

2. The message of repentance: "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elijah is come already, and they knew him not." (Mat. 17:11-12) Jesus was speaking about John the Baptist who had already come and who testified saying, "I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Isaiah!" John 1:23
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I'm not getting your point and don't see how this relate to this topic. This is way off topic. If you like to talk about this more in debt, open a seperate discussion.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/17/13 03:45 AM

My Comments: If you go to the link, this article has over a hundred links to the statements made with sources about all these manipulations.

Big Banks Manipulated Gold and Silver Markets

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/09/big-banks-manipulated-gold-and-silver-markets.html
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Gold and Silver Are Manipulated
The Guardian and Telegraph report that gold and silver prices are “fixed” in the same way as interest rates and derivatives – in daily conference calls by the powers-that-be.

Long-time trader Andrew Maguire told told King World News this week that 2 JP Morgan whistleblowers have handed over evidence of gold and silver manipulation by their bank:

Very recently [Commodities Futures Trading] Commissioner Chilton assured me, and I’m going to quote him exactly, “I can’t appropriately express my frustration and disappointment with how we’ve handled the silver investigation

And, as you know, I’m prohibited from actually saying much. That said, I will not let September go by without speaking out if the agency doesn’t do so.”

***

I was also contacted by two JP Morgan employees who told me they had a large amount of documented evidence of market trading abuses in gold and silver by their bank (JP Morgan). [And they handed it over to the CFTC.]

We’ll have to wait to see if Maguire’s explosive allegations pan out.

As shown below, big banks have manipulated virtually every market – both in the financial sector and the real economy – and broken virtually every law on the books.

Energy Markets Are Manipulated
The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission says that JP Morgan has massively manipulated energy markets in California and the Midwest, obtaining tens of millions of dollars in overpayments from grid operators between September 2010 and June 2011.

Commodities Are Manipulated
The big banks and government agencies have been conspiring to manipulate commodities prices for decades.

The big banks are taking over important aspects of the physical economy, including uranium mining, petroleum products, aluminum, ownership and operation of airports, toll roads, ports, and electricity.

And they are using these physical assets to massively manipulate commodities prices … scalping consumers of many billions of dollars each year.

Interest Rates Are Manipulated
Interest rates are rigged:

■The big banks have conspired for years to rig interest rates … upon which $800 trillion in assets are pegged
■This was the largest insider trading scandal ever … and the largest financial scam in world history
■Local governments got ripped off bigtime by the Libor manipulation
■Libor is still being manipulated

Derivatives Are Manipulated
The big banks have long manipulated derivatives … a $1,200 Trillion Dollar market.

Indeed, many trillions of dollars of derivatives are being manipulated in the exact same same way that interest rates are fixed: through gamed self-reporting.

Currency Markets Are Rigged
Currency markets are massively rigged.

Oil Prices Are Manipulated
Oil prices are manipulated as well.

Everything Can Be Manipulated through High-Frequency Trading
Traders with high-tech computers can manipulate stocks, bonds, options, currencies and commodities. And see this.

Manipulating Numerous Markets In Myriad Ways
The big banks and other giants manipulate numerous markets in myriad ways, for example:

■Engaging in mafia-style big-rigging fraud against local governments. See this, this and this
■Shaving money off of virtually every pension transaction they handled over the course of decades, stealing collectively billions of dollars from pensions worldwide. Details here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here
■Charging “storage fees” to store gold bullion … without even buying or storing any gold . And raiding allocated gold accounts
■Committing massive and pervasive fraud both when they initiated mortgage loans and when they foreclosed on them (and see this)
■Pledging the same mortgage multiple times to different buyers. See this, this, this, this and this. This would be like selling your car, and collecting money from 10 different buyers for the same car
■Cheating homeowners by gaming laws meant to protect people from unfair foreclosure
■Pushing investments which they knew were terrible, and then betting against the same investments to make money for themselves. See this, this, this, this and this
■Engaging in unlawful “frontrunning” to manipulate markets. See this, this, this, this, this and this
■Engaging in unlawful “Wash Trades” to manipulate asset prices. See this, this and this
■Otherwise manipulating markets. And see this
■Participating in various Ponzi schemes. See this, this and this
■Charging veterans unlawful mortgage fees
■Cooking their books (and see this)
■Bribing and bullying ratings agencies to inflate ratings on their risky investments

The Big Picture
The big picture is simple:

■The big banks manipulate every market they touch
■Too much interconnectedness leads to financial instability
■The government has given the banks huge subsidies … which they are using for speculation and other things which don’t help the economy. In other words, propping up the big banks by throwing money at them doesn’t help the economy
■Top economists, financial experts and bankers say that the big banks are too large … and their very size is threatening the economy. They say we need to break up the big banks to stabilize the economy
■The big banks own the D.C. politicians … so Congress and the White House won’t do anything unless the people force change
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/17/13 05:53 PM

Good thing I didn't get suckered into buying gold silver! As some so promoted it.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/19/13 07:35 PM

JPMorgan To Pay $920 Million In Penalties For 'Whale' Losses

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/jpmorgan-london-whale-fine_n_3953435.html
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JPMorgan Chase, the nation's largest bank by assets, will pay $920 million in penalties related to its 'London Whale' trading fiasco, which cost the bank $6.2 billion in losses earlier this year. The bank is admitting to violating federal securities law as part of the settlement, according to Bloomberg.

--- More from Reuters:

(Reuters) - JPMorgan Chase & Co will pay $920 million in penalties in two countries to settle some of its potential liabilities from its "London Whale" derivatives trading losses last year, according to terms made public by regulators on Thursday.

The penalties include $300 million to the U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, $200 million to the Federal Reserve, $200 million to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and 137.6 million pounds ($219.74 million) to the UK's Financial Conduct Authority.

The regulators' citations focus on failures in risk management and financial reporting systems. The biggest U.S. bank was also cited for failing to tell its board of directors and regulators about deficiencies in its risk management systems that had been identified by management.

The settlements are a major milestone in the drive by JPMorgan Chief Executive Jamie Dimon to resolve legal issues weighing on the bank, but leave unresolved a probe by U.S. prosecutors into the derivatives debacle. The "London Whale" derivatives losses last year totaled $6.2 billion.

Dimon, in a statement issued by the company, said, "We have accepted responsibility and acknowledged our mistakes from the start, and we have learned from them and worked to fix them."

Bruno Iksil, the trader whose large bets earned him the nickname "London Whale," has signed a cooperation agreement with prosecutors and has not been charged with any wrongdoing.


JPMorgan also faces other investigations into areas that include possible bribery in hiring practices in China and potentially fraudulent sales of mortgage securities.

JPMorgan has been under intense scrutiny from the U.S. government since May 2012, when Dimon disclosed that the firm was losing billions of dollars on derivatives deals that had been questioned a month earlier in press reports.

Dimon initially criticized those reports as a "tempest in a teapot." He has repeatedly apologized for that remark and said the bank was "stupid" in handling the trades from a London desk of the bank's Chief Investment Office.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/19/13 07:52 PM

My comments : pictures provided at the link.

NEIL KEENAN UPDATE: KEENAN GOES INTO THE LION’S DEN - MEETS WITH CABAL CHIEFTAIN – REVEALS HIS OWN FINANCIAL DOOMSDAY WEAPONS AGAINST THE CABAL – KEENAN SOUNDS THE CHARGE
http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2013/09/17...nds-the-charge/
Quote:

Ø “We’re being played…they are pulling a back door trick, while lulling us into thinking they’re defeated.”

Ø Cabal pulling off massive gold theft in Indonesia – melting, recasting, and fraudulent re-stamping – as they attempt to hijack the assets and move them to the West

Ø Keenan reveals his own Financial Doomsday Weapons against Cabal – see them for yourself

Ø Cabal admits genocidal plans against humanity – claims to want a way out

Ø Cabal families at each other’s throats – who will cut a deal? And will the world allow a deal to be made once the truth is known?

Ø Rothschilds blame Vatican, Rockefellers hunt Rothschilds, Bushes blame everybody – while still trying to start a global war

Ø Keenan demands end to Monsanto, Chem-trails operations aimed at mass murder

Ø World Court forming to bring the cabal to justice, as Keenan reveals the Black Book, The Book of Maklumat, The Book of Conveyance, and an original of the Green Hilton Memorial Agreement.

by Michael Henry Dunn

September 17, 2013 – Neil F. Keenan is done rattling the saber – he’s pulling the sword from the scabbard and preparing to use it. He has caught the banker-bloodline corrupt cabal red-handed in one last desperate attempt to hijack the wealth of the nations and to reassert their murderous dominance over our planet. As powerful new allies have flocked to Keenan’s banner in recent weeks, Keenan has pulled the veil from the cabal’s most cunning deceptions. We have been told they are nearly defeated – they are not. We have been led to believe the Accounts are almost back in the hands of the rightful depositors – while the cabal mounts a massive theft of the assets. Our bloggers and freedom fighters have told us we are almost there – while the plans for genocide proceed unstopped. In a series of extraordinary meetings this week, Neil Keenan confronted one of the dark sect’s top chieftains in a face-to-face showdown in the heart of the cabal’s lair. A series of talks with European leaders followed as the battle to defeat the enemies of humanity moves into what looks to be its climactic phase.

Keenan is done with words – he reveals in an extraordinary video the ultimate “Financial Doomsday” weapons in his possession – and warns that the time has finally come to use them.

Keenan warns the world that we cannot take our liberty – or even our survival – for granted in the face of this final move by the cabal. This dark Luciferian sect did not exert pervasive dominance over our planet for these past centuries by giving up easily, or by honoring a single agreement they ever made. They are masters of cunning deception – layer upon layer, web upon web – and history is littered with the corpses of those who thought they had them defeated, only to feel the knife in their backs even as they toasted their own illusive victory. Those who believed the cabal-infiltrated Freemasons would never rise again in America after their dark nature had been revealed in the 1830’s – after thousands of appalled Americans had resigned from the Masonic movement when its twisted designs were revealed by a member (who paid with his life) – they were astonished to find that the movement quietly reappeared in greater numbers in the years following the Civil War, as the Rothschilds’ remorseless plans for the destruction of American freedom moved into overdrive. “I would sooner have believed that slavery itself would revive in America than we would ever see the Freemasons return to power,” said one dismayed enemy of the cabal.

Like a horror movie demon, the ghouls of the Illuminati wait until their victims are complacently secure in their conviction that the evil is destroyed before springing upon their sleeping prey.

Overly dramatic? No. Merely the verdict of history. And Neil Keenan and his allies are determined to make sure it doesn’t happen one more time. It is now or never. And the weapons he has long held back he is now ready to use.

The Black Book in Keenan’s possession documents every fraudulent transaction, every theft, every account movement, every withdrawal made by the hardened criminals at the uppermost tiers of the oligarchy, going back decades. Every time one of them opens “the black screens” it is like a fingerprint, and the money is traced. Their names, their crimes can be revealed to all. These are Financial Doomsday weapons, and their exposure will have unpredictable consequences – but faced with the imminent return-from-the-dead of the cabal’s plans to murder billions of human beings, Keenan is now revealing them to the world. The documents are already in the hands of journalists, of lawyers, in multiple secure locations throughout the world, ready to be released.

Meanwhile, Keenan reveals information regarding the ongoing theft of Global Account gold from Indonesia by the Cabal.

The Elders have guarded the assets for decades without being compensated according to agreement. That has left them vulnerable to bribery – or to coercion where bribery fails. For years it was American General Rosier stealing massive amounts of gold, and today the name of Lt. General Loren M.Reno has surfaced as the new thief. Now Bush family henchman Richard Armitage is working with General Lorin to continue the cabal’s proud tradition of shameless plundering. Planeloads full of gold are leaving Indonesia for Hong Kong, where it is melted down, whereupon new bars are created with phony stamps, ready for shipping out to the West.

Keenan dared to venture into the heart of the cabal’s lair to meet with a notorious cabal bloodline chieftain (his nobler titles are a sham – a crime syndicate boss should be called by his right name). All very civilized, of course. Cordial conversations over dinner as Keenan revealed his knowledge of their last cunning devices and called them out on their genocidal operations.

“I’m going into the lion’s den,” he informed this writer. “But I’m bringing some catnip with me.”

Keenan is still Keenan.

He called them out on Monsanto. He called them out on chemtrails. He called them out on genocide. And he warned them that it must all stop now. In the extraordinary video accompanying this article, Keenan reveals that the families at the top of the banking system are looking for a way out. They know they are vulnerable. They have believed that they can survive because they control the world banking system – and who can operate without them? This has been their trump card – while they have calmly proceeded with their plans to mercilessly slaughter billions of human beings. Now they say they too want to see the Cabal come to an end.

Of course, they are the Cabal. But there are factions within factions, and the leading families are at each other’s throats. The American cabal families are still going full tilt for global war, and word has it that the European banking families are in danger of their lives from the Bushes and Rockefellers. One thing is certain – the ten leading financiers (with the “chieftain” at the table) who sat down with Neil Keenan in a certain banking capital last week would have us believe that they do not think of themselves as the cabal…and that they know the cabal is finished.

The Vatican is evil and cannot be trusted. Who says so? Why, the cabal, of course – they’re reportedly very upset with how they’ve been misled by Rome. Those nasty Vatican boys lied to our dear honest bankers? How appalling! Honor among thieves…you reap what you sow, gentlemen. You might try looking that up in the good book – along with “thou shalt not kill” and “thou shalt not steal.”

Keenan emerged from his confrontation to warn us all: we must take back the keys to the kingdom – don’t let the Vatican retake control, or we’re in for a hundred years of hell.

Neither side can be trusted. We must see actions. The Accounts must be freed. The chemtrails must end. Monsanto and HAARP must be dismantled.

And the truth of who they are and what they’ve done must be told to the world.

Their day is done. The world is awake. And they will be brought to justice. They have believed that we are the sheep and they are the wolves. We are reclaiming our freedom.

The new international security force, the soon-to-be-completed World Court of Human Rights, the 178-nation consortium, all are now aligned to prevent this last back-door crime from turning victory into defeat. But time is short. We must act now.

The extraordinary video attached to this article should be immediately distributed throughout the world. Reblog it, Skype it, Facebook it, e-mail it, Twitter it, turn it into a hundred million hits on Youtube. Nothing less than humanity’s survival is at stake.

More enormously important news is imminent. Crucial updates will follow in the coming days.

Only our silence, only our complacency allows them to win. Only our raised voices, only our united determination ensures our freedom. Wake up now!

I will close with a direct quote from Neil Keenan:

“Let those who hold secrets release them so they may be heard. Let everyone stand and let it be known they are not sitting down any longer, that they value the liberty and safety of their families because this is what is at stake. We must let it be known to the Cabal that we know what they are up to and that we have our little birdies singing to us now telling us it is time for them to say goodbye….All the Elite take a hike…..Hit the road Jack and don’t you come back no more!”

Michael Henry Dunn



Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/07/13 08:45 PM

An important message from former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer

My comment: There's not that much info regarding the Canadian Banking situation but just viewed this really good message from a retired Canadian Defense Minister who is the longest serving member of the Canadian privy council. He has a very good and important message for all Canadian how to stop this austerity and slavery to the current system. I don't know if they are legit and if they are really out to do what they say they are aiming to do. This would require some investigation to determine.

However, if you go to their website http://www.victoryfortheworld.net/ there are lots of information for the Canadian Banking system and Federal laws that can be checked and would be helpful to inform us of what is going on.

Here's is what Paul & this group alarming message to all Canadian is saying :
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URGENT! URGENT!
OTTAWA INTENDS TO SIGN A TREATY WITH THE EUROPEAN UNION THAT WILL COMPROMISE PARLIAMENT'S ABSOLUTE POWER OVER MONEY AND BANKING. THE TREATY WOULD TIE US TO THE KIND OF PERPETUAL AUSTERITY THAT THREATENS EUROPE. TO SIGN IT WOULD BE AN ACT OF TREASON!

THE COMMITTEE ON MONETARY AND ECONOMIC REFORM (COMER) IS ASKING FOR AN INJUNCTION TO PREVENT THIS BETRAYAL OF OUR NATIONAL INTEREST. BUT WE NEED $90,000 FOR THE FIRST ROUND. HELP US GUARD THE POWER ESSENTIAL TO OUR CHILDREN'S FUTURE. CONTRIBUTE NOW.


AN OPEN LETTER TO FINANCE MINISTER FLAHERTY

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We, the undersigned, firmly believe that 2015 is far too late to balance the federal budget. Powerful stimulus is essential now, to revive the economy and get it running on all cylinders. All that is necessary is to use the power given to you by the Canadian Constitution. There is a precedent.

From 1939 to 1974 the Bank of Canada provided the Canadian government with large sums of money at near zero cost. This got us out of the Great Depression, helped finance World War II, and many great post-war projects like the St. Lawrence Seaway and the Trans-Canada highway, as well as contributing to the establishment of our Medicare and social security systems which were the envy of the world.

All was well until 1974 when, without government approval, the Bank of Canada abandoned its shareholders, the Canadian people, and adopted the rules of the Bank for International Settlements. The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) is the de facto headquarters of the international banking cartel, a club of immensely rich con artists who have persuaded kings, queens, emperors and politicians to give them licenses to lend the same money to 15 or 20 different individuals, companies, or governments simultaneously, and collect interest from each one of them – a global fraud without equal.

This international Ponzi scheme has been so successful that big banks now control the ultimate destiny of trillions of dollars in assets which they acquired with virtual (debt) money that isn’t worth more than about five cents on the dollar – not much more than monopoly money.

Since the Bank of Canada joined the BIS club in 1974 it’s been all downhill for the Canadian economy. In 1974 there were no food banks in Canada. Today there are 1,921, and the need is still growing. Then, Medicare was well funded and tuition rates were low. Now there are long waiting lists for elective surgery, and tuition fees are far too high.

This decline in our welfare since 1974 is the direct result of the Bank of Canada adopting two BIS edicts. First the adoption of the ideas of Milton Friedman, especially monetarism. Second, the Bank of Canada agreed to stop providing the federal government with low-cost money as it had been doing for 35 years. Instead, the government has had to borrow in the market and pay as much as 20% interest.

The first of these decisions resulted in using high interest rates, which are the clumsiest of all possible tools to fight inflation. The terrible recessions of 1981-82 and 1990-91, that created both social and economic chaos proved that the cure was far more dreadful than the disease.

The Bank of Canada’s second decision to stop providing low-cost money has resulted in monstrous increases in government debt at all levels. Between 1974/75 and 2010/11 Canadian taxpayers paid 1 trillion, l00 billion dollars interest on the federal debt alone – more than $2,000 each year for every man and woman in the workforce – and all of it unnecessary. And the debt remains. There is no way to pay it off!

The system is broken! John Maynard Keynes and Milton Friedman both erred when they assumed it was self-regulating. It has to be managed by governments on behalf of all the people. Our government has to use its sovereign power to liberate us from being slaves to debt.

We therefore demand that you table your austerity budget – an idea that was tried in the 1930s and failed miserably – and adopt a new deal for Canadians. So that you will know exactly what we mean and want, we have spelled it out for you as follows.

A SOCIAL CONTRACT BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT
AND PEOPLE OF CANADA

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In view of the fact that our present banking and financial system is unstable, unsustainable and basically immoral, we the undersigned, on behalf of all Canadians, demand that the federal government use its constitutional power over all matters pertaining to money and banking by forthwith taking the following action to benefit all Canadians.

1. The government of Canada should print fifteen non-transferable, non-convertible, non-redeemable $10 billion nominal value Canada share certificates.

2. Simultaneously the Justice Department should be asked for a legal opinion as to whether the share certificates qualify as collateral under the Bank of Canada Act. If not, legislation should be introduced to amend the Act to specify their eligibility.

3. The government should then present the share certificates to the Bank of Canada that would forthwith book the certificates as assets against the liability of the cash created, and deposit $150 billion in the government’s bank accounts. The federal government should immediately transfer $75 billion to the various provinces and territories in amounts proportional to their population, with the understanding that they would help the municipalities, as appropriate, so there would be no need to cut back on essential services, or sell valuable assets.

4. Amend the Bank Act to reverse the 1991 amendments that eliminated the requirement for the Canadian chartered banks to maintain cash reserves against their deposits and provide the Minister of Finance, or someone acting on his or her behalf, the power to set the level of cash reserves for banks and other deposit taking institutions up to a maximum of 34%, provided the increase, beginning in fiscal year 2013/14 is not less than 5% per annum until the new 34% base has been established in 7 years. This will ensure that there will be no inflation resulting from the government-created money.

5. Repeat the action prescribed in Sections 1 and 3 above in accordance with the following schedule. (a) 2014/15 $150 billion of government-created money (GCM); (b) 2015/16, $150 billion GCM; (c) 2016/17, $125 billion GCM; (d) 2017/18, $125 billion GCM; (e) 2018/19, 50% of the estimated increase in GCM to bring bank reserves up to 34% by the end of fiscal year 2019/20 (likely to be an amount greater than $100 billion); (f) 2019/20 the remaining amount of GCM to increase bank reserves to 34% (again likely to exceed $100 billion).

6. In each fiscal year following 2019/20 the amount of GCM spent into circulation will be 34% of the desired increase in monetary expansion for that year with the remaining 66% to be the prerogative of the chartered banks.

N.B. The great advantage of changing the system over a 7 year period is to allow all levels of government the certainty of a cash flow adequate to complete projects once begun, and to facilitate a smooth transition to the new stable and sustainable system.

7. After a year or two of robust economic growth, as tax revenues begin to rise, the amount of GCM created during the transitional period should exceed prudent budgetary requirements, so governments at all levels should take advantage of the opportunity to pay off significant amounts of their outstanding debt. It is estimated that the federal government could reduce its net debt by as much as one-third, providing further relief to hard-pressed taxpayers.

8. We demand that the parliament and government of Canada implement items 1 to 4 above not later than midnight May 10, 2013 in order that the economic benefits will begin for students seeking employment.

9. We believe these actions to be so essential for the future welfare of the majority of Canadians, and as a precedent for other struggling countries, that should parliament and the government fail to meet the deadline above we will feel duty bound to adopt such peaceful measures as are within our power to guarantee that the 99% of Canadians on the lower end of the income scale are not shortchanged one more time.

Yours respectfully,

Jerry Ackerman, Paul Amodeo, Erik Andersen, Carol Bailey, David Banerjee, André Bernier, Erick Bittschwam, George Crowell, Arestia Dehmassi, Derrel Dular, Ann Emmett, Helen Ferreira, Connie Fogal, Claire Foss, Sarah Harrington, Paul Hellyer, William Krehm, Christopher Lambe, Chris Lang, Judy Lewis, John McMurtry, Dennis Morrison, David Patrick, Richard Priestman, Susan Rawley, Hon. Alan Redway, Hugh Reilly, John Riddell, Sarah Sackville-McLauchlan, Michael Sinclair, Derek Skinner, Myra Sonnichsen, Victor Viggiani, Andrew Ward, Sydney White, Keith Wilde, Pierre Zgheib

Contacts: Jerry Ackerman (613/375-8256); Ann Emmett (416/654-3499); or Paul Hellyer (416/850-1375).
Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/07/13 09:29 PM

Matthew 6:19-34 AKJV
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust does corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust does corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore your eye be single, your whole body shall be full of light.
23 But if your eye be evil, your whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in you be darkness, how great is that darkness!
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
25 Therefore I say to you, Take no thought for your life, what you shall eat, or what you shall drink; nor yet for your body, what you shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much better than they?
27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit to his stature?
28 And why take you thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 And yet I say to you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 Why, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knows that you have need of all these things.
33 But seek you first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added to you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient to the day is the evil thereof.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/08/13 04:43 PM

APL, this discussion is not about gathering wealth on earth. You must of mist this post#152153 the last on Page 17 the following :
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
I thought you were promoting gold as the ultimate investment rather than as one which would end. Now it's silver. What will it be next?

I'm not promoting buying gold or silver...I'm giving a heads up to those who can hear and have savings and retirement funds to re-invest their savings into something that will retain its value before the current Babylonian system crashes completly. Gold or silver is one way to retain your savings value or it can be buying land or whatever the Lord moves you to do. Now with what happened to the market the last 2 weeks, gold and silver is currently very scarce and hard to find in quantity. So alternative investment sources might be the other option left.

The main idea is Babylon is falling...get out of her!. Of course we know of this with an spiritual dimension however it also has an economical application too!

Regardless if you have any savings, or have lossed all your savings, .... there's nothing to fret about for the next kingdom [the Everlasting Stone Kingdom that will grow to cover the whole earth of Daniel 2 ] will be far superior to any of the ancient beastly kingdoms. For sure those that has lost much money during the crash will have to deal with that lost and the fact they ignored all the signs arounds, but once they overcome this bitterness they will be able to rejoice with the others.

This discussion goal is to keep track of the news events of the fall of the current Economical System aka "Mystery Babylon" and the restructuring of the new system.

I would like to add to this comment that we are called to be children of light. We have prophecies and the Spirit of the Lord at our disposal to lead us into an understanding of what is currently happening in this world. The Lord wants us to be aware and watch His handywork in action to come into deeper understanding of how He works and applies His laws & prophecies as the events unfold. That is one of the goal of the prophecies given to us in advance before He acts.

We all know the end of the story that the Lord will be victorious and His Kingdom will be given to His Saints who will rule with Him during the Millenium (Dn 2 & 7; Rev 5:10; Rev 20:4; etc...)after the fall of Babylon. However most people around don't and are taking by fear and uncertainty of a futur. So we are to share this light of hope with them in telligently by showing scriptures and how it relates to the events today.

It's almost two years I have started this discussion. And it is very sad to see that not even one person came forth to join this discussion and tried to understand the works of the Lord. That's pretty shocking considering we claim to be the church to sound the 3 angels message that pivots around the fall of Babylon. All who came here came to try to discourage discussion as you have done APL. However that's ok and I'm not going to shy away to collect information that I'm impress to post here pertaining to this historical climax of the coming fall of Babylon. It would of been wonderful that others would of contributed; but it is not expected.

I am encouraged to the fact that this discussion is highly read having of today nearly 62,000 views. The discussion was hardly read at the beginning, but after 8 months or so, the weekly rate was increasing. Currently, it is read at the rate of over 1000 views per week. When I was posting more news(as I have slowed down this summer and being more selective), this discussion had aprox. a rate of 2000 views per week. So by the consistent viewing hi-rate, I see that some people value the news posted here to the point of coming back to read any further news.

Even if there wasn't any hi viewing rate, I still would post here as it is a great way to compile these important world events for futur references.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/08/13 05:34 PM

Government Shutdown
I really don't understand much about the US Government shutdown and haven't posted anything I found that was very informative.

Stephen Jones comments was the following :
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The US budget deficit runs over 40% of revenues, so when the government cannot agree to raise the debt limit, government spending drops by the amount of the deficit. This means a partial shutdown of government operations. What we are witnessing is the type of government we would have if it actually lived within its means with a balanced budget.

That is what is happening now. The problem is made worse, however, because the Obama administration has given orders to make this shutdown as painful as possible, knowing that the Republicans will be blamed for the shutdown. So they have closed parks which require no personnel to guard, oversee, or maintain--and hence, cost nothing to keep open. Such as the WW2 Veterans Memorial Park in Washington.

Congress, dominated by Republicans, did its job by passing a budget. The Senate, dominated by Democrats, turned it down, forcing the government to shut down. Blame is laid, depending on one's partisan viewpoint.

It seems quite possible that this will prove to be the end of Babylon as we know it.
...beginning in the summer of 2007 with the subprime mortgage crisis.

So we now find ourselves seven years later with still no economic recovery. The system has been on massive life-support for seven years, kept alive only by massive monetary drug infusions into Uncle Sam's veins and an iron lung to keep him breathing. The vast increase in the money supply (and hence, the debt) has not solved the foundational issues inherent in the fiat money system of Mystery Babylon. The Fed's "solutions" have only postponed the problem and made the collapse worse when it finally happens.

I wonder if this present crisis will be used to steal the rest of the retirement funds that have not already been stolen. Oh, no, these funds are not really stolen. The thief put an IOU in the strongbox after taking the money. So technically, it was just a forced loan. But when the thief defaults on the loan, the retirement funds are the ones who lose their money.

The danger that we face today is a default on the Treasury Bonds that come due October 17...Whatever happens, it is clear that the government shutdown and the looming fiscal crisis on October 17 may well turn into a major event. While many think that congress will come to some kind of agreement with the white house and avert a default on the bonds, the timing of this makes me think that we will indeed default.

If that happens, watch for another major stock market crash. Some are predicting a drop of 4,000 points this month. It is a virtual certainty that if the default occurs, then the market will crash heavily. So be watchful.


Also I thought Peter Shiff comments was informative (start at the 2:30 min marking). I typically don't watch Alex Jones as I find him focussing on fear too much. However, he does collect a lot of information by which some are true. Anyway with anything, we need to use discernment with what we know about the Lord's ability to intervene in these things and having His own agenda.


Also this news article in European Union Times saying the Pentagon saying that Obama will possibly be exerting his executive privilege of dictatorship and will declare some states to be against the government and a lot more.

http://www.eutimes.net/2013/10/pentagon-warns-to-expect-radical-change-in-us-government-soon/

Pentagon Warns To Expect “Radical” Change In US Government Soon
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A highly troubling “urgent bulletin” issued earlier today by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) states that it has received information from the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) warning to expect a “radical change” in the government of the United States, possibly within the next fortnight, based on information they have received from “highly placed” sources within the Pentagon.

According to this MoFA bulletin, GRU intelligence assests were notified by their Pentagon counterparts this past week that President Barack Obama is preparing to invoke the powers given to him under 50 USC Chapter 13 to hold that various American States are now in a “state of insurrection” thus allowing him to invoke the National Emergencies Act under 50 USC § 1621 and invoke the highly controversial “continuity of government” plan for the United States allowing him, in essence, to rule with supreme powers.

Specifically, this bulletin says, Obama will invoke 50 USC § 212 that states: “ the President shall have declared by proclamation that the laws of the United States are opposed, and the execution thereof obstructed, by combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings”

The specific laws being opposed by these “combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings,” that Obama will outline in his reasoning’s for declaring a state of emergency, this bulletin continues, are the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), otherwise known as Obamacare.

The NDAA is opposed by many US States, this bulletin says, with California joining Alaska and Virginia this past week in passing a law making it illegal to be enforced in their territory, and with many other States, also, preparing to do the same.

The specific portions of the NDAA law being opposed by these US States allows for the indefinite detention without charges or trial of all American citizens and allows for their assassination should Obama order it.

The PPACA (Obamacare) law is, likewise, opposed by over half of the US States and has led to an American “shutdown” this past week that has closed 15% of their government, but has left fully 85% of it still open.

To the specific “combinations too powerful” Obama will cite in his declaration of National Emergency as being needed to be defeated by extraordinary measures, the MoFA says, is a faction of the US House of Representatives popularly known as the Republican Tea Party whom the President and his allies have likened to “hostage takers” and “political terrorists.”

Obama’s greatest fear, and reason(s) for declaring a National State of Emergency, this bulletin continues, was outlined yesterday by his US Treasury Department who released a report yesterday warning of potentially “catastrophic” damage should Congress fail to raise the debt ceiling and prevent the government from defaulting on its debt.

As the current US government shutdown crisis and debt ceiling fight have now merged, the MoFA warns in this bulletin, Obama further warned yesterday that an impasse on the debt ceiling beyond 17 October, when the US government will be essentially out of cash to pay its bills, could start a downward economic plunge worse than the recession of five years ago – with credit markets seizing up, the dollar’s value plummeting and US interest rates soaring and even coming close to the brink of such an unprecedented default that could roil both domestic and foreign financial markets.

Preparing to oppose Obama, should he, in fact, declare a National State of Emergency, the GRU grimly warns, is the US military who themselves are preparing to invoke 50 USC § 842 which allows them to protect America from “The Communist Party of the United States, or any successors of such party regardless of the assumed name, whose object or purpose is to overthrow the Government of the United States, or the government of any State, Territory, District, or possession thereof…”

Not known to many Americans is that the Progressive movement Obama belongs to, and whose media acolyte “presstitutes” swept into office, have long been associated with the Communist Party.

And, as the World Net Daily News Service reported this past August, John C. Drew, Ph.D., the award-winning political scientist, met Obama in 1980 and wrote in 2011: “[Obama] believed that the economic stresses of the Carter years meant revolution was still imminent. The election of Reagan was simply a minor set-back in terms of the coming revolution. … Obama was blindly sticking to the simple Marxist theory … ‘there’s going to be a revolution.’ Obama said, ‘we need to be organized and grow the movement.’ In Obama’s view, our role must be to educate others so that we might usher in more quickly this inevitable revolution.”

With Obama’s “revolution” now at hand, the GRU warns in this bulletin, it is critical to note that that United States, unlike other nations, have all of their elected officials and military personal swear allegiance to the US Constitution, and not to their government or its leaders.

The most recent example of this conflict between Obama and the US military, the GRU further states, was in Egypt when the Obama regime supported Muslim Brotherhood was overthrown by the Pentagon backed Egyptian military, and who, like the United States, makes its political and military leaders swear allegiance to their constitution, not to any of its leaders.

As many in America now know that these present times are not the normal activities of a government seeking peace and prosperity, and as dozens of undisclosed Obama Presidential directives that define US national security policy and task government agencies are still unknown either to the public or, as a rule, to the US Congress, this bulletin warns in its summation that with each passing day American can be more likened to a communist dictatorship than a functioning democracy.

So bad, in fact, has the United States become that one of its legendary reporters, Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh wrote this past week that the Obama administration lies systematically yet none of the leviathans of American media, the TV networks or big print titles, challenge him.

Even worse, and in a further Sovietization of American Life by the Obama regime, the US this past week refused to grant entry visas to internationally renowned authors Ilija Trojanov and Ernst Titovets who were invited to speak at conferences, and which Justin Raimondo of the highly respected Antiwar.com blog calls “part of a disturbing pattern of repression that all points to one ineluctable conclusion: the United States is the Soviet Union of the new millennium – an ideological state with global ambitions that holds itself up as the epitome of “freedom” and yet is the single most powerful enemy of liberty worldwide.”


And the last piece of information pertaining to this event is that there are many groups in the US planning to go to Washington starting Friday Oct 11th in the mind to arrest Obama and any others in the government who are traiters of the constitution. They expect over a million truckers blocking the roads. Then I heard there was the oathkeapers groups, and the militia groups, and I wouldn't be suprise the bikers will show up also who on Sept 11 over a million have come to Washington DC. to make a statement of some sort that they are organized, aware, and watching.

Below is the youtube viral video going around to rally the truckers for the constitution.

Let us pray together that the Lord's will be establish on earth in these coming events as they are climaxing. I would advise everyone to make some sort of preparation with food and water and whatever necessity you may need in the case something major happen that will temporarily freeze up supplies. Also think of preparing to help your neighbors.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/08/13 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
It's almost two years I have started this discussion. And it is very sad to see that not even one person came forth to join this discussion and tried to understand the works of the Lord. That's pretty shocking ...

Aren't you running an alarmist thread full of anti-establishment propaganda? This is what the Lord told Isaiah, "Do not say, 'A conspiracy,' concerning all that this people call a conspiracy, nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled. The Lord of hosts, Him you shall hallow; let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread." (Is. 8:12-13) Jesus echoed this sentiment as well. He said, "See that you are not troubled ... this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, AND THEN the end will come." (Mat. 24:3-14)

It behooves us therefore to tell the world of the Second Advent and prepare everyone for the coming of the King! That is OUR responsibility, not to drive fear into the hearts of simple folk warning in grave tones of trepidation, "Illuminati! Illuminati! The Illuminati is coming for you!"

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Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/08/13 06:33 PM

Matthew 6:19-34 AKJV
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust does corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

But Elle, would you say "Gold or silver is one way to retain your savings"

Is this just another Green is Black and Black is Green?

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I am encouraged to the fact that this discussion is highly read having of today nearly 62,000 views. The discussion was hardly read at the beginning, but after 8 months or so, the weekly rate was increasing. Currently, it is read at the rate of over 1000 views per week. When I was posting more news(as I have slowed down this summer and being more selective), this discussion had aprox. a rate of 2000 views per week. So by the consistent viewing hi-rate, I see that some people value the news posted here to the point of coming back to read any further news.

Even if there wasn't any hi viewing rate, I still would post here as it is a great way to compile these important world events for futur references.
Ah. That thought had come to me, but I had wanted to dismiss it. Oh well. Guess crime sells.
Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/09/13 03:54 AM

Retain savings - - really, what good is pavement when everything falls apart. Are we to trust in gold and silver? Stored where? Where thieves can take it? Will a loaf of bread cost a pound of gold? Will savings have been preserved? Jeremiah 17:7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/11/13 04:51 PM

Originally Posted By: James
Aren't you running an alarmist thread full of anti-establishment propaganda?
The Lord does sounds alarms before an important event happens; however, it is not an anti-establishment propaganda… I never took this position for the Bible teaches to submit to whatever autority is set above us. So, I do not believe in rebelling against the establish government even though the Lord put the most barbarian Babylonian system possible up there in all history. The Lord expects us(the believers) to submit to it. I have express this in other threads.

In this discussion, I never advocated to revolt against our government or to throw them down. James I’m happy you brought it up in case people assume I was advocating such a position. I did mention recently that there are groups planning to seize Obama and others(btw. It appears this was misinformation as there's a lot of misinformation as this is one of Babylon's tools), but I never said to go and join them. However, I never said to not join them either; so please do not join them. This is not the Lord’s way for us Christian. However, as children of light we need to be aware, watch the signs, and prepare.

Prepare for what? Prepare for the transition from the current Kingdom of Babylon to the Stone Kingdom that will be given to the Saints of the Most High. We all know that the next Kingdom establish will be the Kingdom of the Lord. However, most think that it will be in heaven, by which is not Biblical. This question has been studied in this discussion here (The 2nd Coming,Judgment and tehe 1000 years). The next Kingdom will be on earth like all the other kingdoms were. Daniel 2:35 says “the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.”

I do believe it is the working(via different agencies) of the Lord that will bring down Mystery Babylon when His time comes. What I am reporting here is to see His works in doing just that. Whatever unfolds in current history is what He is working what was proclaimed in prophesy. “who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

The Lord calls us to be aware and to watch the signs. Prophecies are given so we can rejoice as we see things unfold. I don't see many rejoicing here but are struck by fear by these events. It is not my postings that is bringing fear. It is because everyone has already fear in their hearts and whenever they hear of the end times in the news or wherever it is told -- that fear surfaces.
Originally Posted By: James
It behooves us therefore to tell the world of the Second Advent and prepare everyone for the coming of the King! That is OUR responsibility, not to drive fear into the hearts of simple folk warning in grave tones of trepidation, "Illuminati! Illuminati! The Illuminati is coming for you!"

When Israel was cornered and the large army of Eqypt was coming, Moses said “Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD". Moses could say this because He knew the Sovereignty of the Lord behind all events, and how He worked things to fulfill His plan and how He works these to bring the people to know Him. Why did the Lord led the people in a corner with no way to escape, with an huge army coming at them? Didn't He "drive fear into the hearts of simple folk warning in grave tones of trepidation, "Egypt! Egypt! Egypt is coming for you!"" Yes He did bring the fear that was already in their hearts to the surface with the event that He set up. Was there anything to fear? NO. Why? Because the Lord had a plan. One important level of His plan is to address that fear that is already in the people hearts because of their ignorance of Him and His ways. Only Moses stood there fearless, but the rest were all afraid. Did the Lord deliver them...YES He did. And He will deliver us again bc He told us before hand that Mystery Babylon will come down. Was there Egyptians coming after them? Yes there were. Is Mystery Babylon coming after us. Yes they are.

This whole set up is important, for one is to show us our current fearful heart based on ignorance, and two so the Lord can show us that ONLY HE comes to deliver us so we know that He is the Lord almighty so He will turn the hearts towards HIM and His power.

There is no fear when we know the Lord and understand His workings and His plan. Actually, it is to prevent fear that I'm addressing these things and posting these for discussion, so we can all can rejoice when Babylon comes down.

People needs some Moses in their midst that can stand fearless in the midst of the climax of these events.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/12/13 01:24 AM

Comment : Wow !!! The Lord is taking down Babylon's NSA facility. He didn't need someone to start the fire, the glitches within the database caused the explosion. Imagine that. Never heard such thing. Just amazing. And they can't fix it!!!

$2 Billion NSA Spy Center is Going Up in Flames
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/10/08/2-Billion-NSA-Spy-Center-Going-Flames
October 8, 2013
By Brianna Ehley
The Fiscal Times
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Technical glitches have sparked fiery explosions within the NSA's newest and largest data storage facility in Utah, destroying hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment, and delaying the facility's opening by one year.

And no one seems to know how to fix it.



For a country that prides itself on being a technology leader, not knowing the electrical capacity requirements for a system as large as this is inexcusable.

Within the last 13 months, at least 10 electric surges have each cost about $100,000 in damages, according to documents obtained by the Wall Street Journal. Experts agree that the system, which requires about 64 megawatts of electricity—that's about a $1 million a month energy bill--isn't able to run all of its computers and servers while keeping them cool, which is likely triggering the meltdowns.

RELATED: GOVERNMENT WASTES MORE THAN YOU THINK
The contractor that designed the flawed system—Pennsylvania-based Klingstubbins--said in a statement that it has "uncovered the issue" and is working on "implementing a permanent fix."

But that's not the case, according to the Army Corps of Engineers (ACE), which is in charge of overseeing the data center's construction. ACE disagreed with the contractor and said the meltdowns are "not yet sufficiently understood."

A report by ACE in the Wall Street Journal said the government has incomplete information about the design of the electrical system that could pose new problems if settings need to change on circuit breakers. The report also said regular quality controls in design and construction were bypassed in an effort to "fast track" the project.

RELATED: PENTAGON'S $5.5 BILLION DOLLAR SHUTDOWN SPENDING SPREE

The facility—named the Utah Data Center—is the largest of several new NSA data centers central to the agency's massive surveillance program that was exposed by former NSA contractor turned leaker Edward Snowden earlier this year.

Communications from all around the world in the form of emails, cell phone calls and Google searches, among other digital details are stored in the center's databases, which are said to be larger than Google's biggest data center. But due to the major system meltdowns, the NSA hasn't been able to use the center's databases, which it has claimed are crucial for national security.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/13/13 06:04 PM

Ben Carson: Obamacare Is Worst Thing To Happen In America 'Since Slavery'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/11/ben-carson-obamacare_n_4086065.html?1381514228&icid=maing-grid7|htmlws-sb-bb|dl10|sec1_lnk3&pLid=390172

10/11/2013 1:56 pm

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson said Obamacare is the worst thing to happen to America "since slavery" while speaking at the 2013 Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C.

"You know Obamacare is really I think the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery," Carson said Friday. "And it is in a way, it is slavery in a way, because it is making all of us subservient to the government, and it was never about health care. It was about control."

Carson was recently hired by Fox News as a contributor. He served as the director of pediatric surgery at the Johns Hopkins Children's Center for 39 years.

Carson has made other shocking comments in the past, once calling white liberals "racist."

"[White liberals are] the most racist people there are," Carson said in April 2013. "You know, they put you in a little category, a little box -- you have to think this way. How could you dare come off the plantation?"

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/13/13 06:34 PM

Update: Truckers for the Constitution Shutdown DC Highway
My Comment: Below is two informatives youtube clips about the truckers for the constitution peaceful protest, so to replace the misinformation that I repeated in the other post with their true intend.

The first video is about their purpose, what they are asking, and their plan of action spoken by the leader of the Truckers for the Constitution.


The second is general about the unfair laws that govern the truckers to work below minimum wage, the closure of the memorial parks and at the end of video the list of demands by which the 1st is the resignation of Obama, 2nd. that the debt ceiling is not lifted and 3rd that the US stop supporting Al-qaeda.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/15/13 04:24 PM

Speaking of wow:

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Technical glitches have sparked fiery explosions within the NSA's newest and largest data storage facility in Utah, destroying hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment, and delaying the facility's opening by one year.

Elle turns into:
Originally Posted By: Elle
Comment : Wow !!! The Lord is taking down Babylon's NSA facility. He didn't need someone to start the fire, the glitches within the database caused the explosion. Imagine that. Never heard such thing. Just amazing. And they can't fix it!!!

No.

But do actual facts matter?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/21/13 03:01 PM

China Calls For New Reserve Currency, And New World Order

http://www.globalresearch.ca/china-agency-calls-for-new-reserve-currency-and-new-world-order/5354190
By Tyler Durden
Global Research, October 14, 2013
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We assume it is a coincidence that on the day in which we demonstrate China’s relentless appetite for gold, driven by what we and many others believe is the country’s desire to have a call option on a gold-backed reserve currency when the time comes, just posted in China’s official press agency, Xinhua, is an op-ed by writer Liu Chang in which he decries the “US fiscal failure which warrants a de-Americanized world” and flatly states that the world should consider a new reserve currency:

“that is to be created to replace the dominant U.S. dollar, so that the international community could permanently stay away from the spillover of the intensifying domestic political turmoil in the United States.”

Of course, if China were serious, and if the world were to voluntarily engage in such a (r)evolutionary reserve currency transition, then all Magic Money Tree theories that the only thing better than near infinite debt is beyond infinite debt, would promptly be relegated to the historic dust heap of idiotic theories where they belong.

Some of China’s (which as a reminder is the single largest offshore holder of US Treasury paper, and the second largest of all only second naturally to the Federal Reserve whose $85 billion in monthly monetizing “flow” is what is keeping rates from exploding higher) thoughts as captured in the Xinhua Op-ed:

■Reform of the world’s financial system should include the introduction of a new internatonal reserve currency to replace the U.S. dollar
■The international community could thus permanently stay away from the spillover of intensifying domestic political turmoil in the U.S.
■Fiscal impasse in the U.S. is a good time for “befuddled world” to start considering building a “de-Americanized world”
■Impasse has left many nations’ dollar assets in jeopardy and the international community agonized
■Other cornerstones should be laid to underpin a de-Americanized world, including respect for sovereignty, recognizing authority of UN in handling global hotspot issues and giving developing and emerging market economies more say in major international financial institutions
■Purpose of such changes is not to “completely toss the United States aside,” rather to encourage Washington to play a much more constructive role in addressing global affairs
Of course, if and when the day comes that the USD is no longer the reserve currency, kiss America’s superpower, or any power, status, which is now based purely on the USD’s reserve currency status, and the ability to fund half the US budget deficit with debt promptly monetized by the Fed, goodbye.

Finally, as a reminder…

[img:left]http://www.globalresearch.ca/china-agency-calls-for-new-reserve-currency-and-new-world-order/5354190[/img]
From Xinhua:

U.S. fiscal failure warrants a de-Americanized world

As U.S. politicians of both political parties are still shuffling back and forth between the White House and the Capitol Hill without striking a viable deal to bring normality to the body politic they brag about, it is perhaps a good time for the befuddled world to start considering building a de-Americanized world.

Emerging from the bloodshed of the Second World War as the world’s most powerful nation, the United States has since then been trying to build a global empire by imposing a postwar world order, fueling recovery in Europe, and encouraging regime-change in nations that it deems hardly Washington-friendly.

With its seemingly unrivaled economic and military might, the United States has declared that it has vital national interests to protect in nearly every corner of the globe, and been habituated to meddling in the business of other countries and regions far away from its shores.

Meanwhile, the U.S. government has gone to all lengths to appear before the world as the one that claims the moral high ground, yet covertly doing things that are as audacious as torturing prisoners of war, slaying civilians in drone attacks, and spying on world leaders.

Under what is known as the Pax-Americana, we fail to see a world where the United States is helping to defuse violence and conflicts, reduce poor and displaced population, and bring about real, lasting peace.

Moreover, instead of honoring its duties as a responsible leading power, a self-serving Washington has abused its superpower status and introduced even more chaos into the world by shifting financial risks overseas, instigating regional tensions amid territorial disputes, and fighting unwarranted wars under the cover of outright lies.

As a result, the world is still crawling its way out of an economic disaster thanks to the voracious Wall Street elites, while bombings and killings have become virtually daily routines in Iraq years after Washington claimed it has liberated its people from tyrannical rule.

Most recently, the cyclical stagnation in Washington for a viable bipartisan solution over a federal budget and an approval for raising debt ceiling has again left many nations’ tremendous dollar assets in jeopardy and the international community highly agonized.

Such alarming days when the destinies of others are in the hands of a hypocritical nation have to be terminated, and a new world order should be put in place, according to which all nations, big or small, poor or rich, can have their key interests respected and protected on an equal footing.

To that end, several corner stones should be laid to underpin a de-Americanized world.

For starters, all nations need to hew to the basic principles of the international law, including respect for sovereignty, and keeping hands off domestic affairs of others.

Furthermore, the authority of the United Nations in handling global hotspot issues has to be recognized. That means no one has the right to wage any form of military action against others without a UN mandate.

Apart from that, the world’s financial system also has to embrace some substantial reforms.

The developing and emerging market economies need to have more say in major international financial institutions including the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, so that they could better reflect the transformations of the global economic and political landscape.

What may also be included as a key part of an effective reform is the introduction of a new international reserve currency that is to be created to replace the dominant U.S. dollar, so that the international community could permanently stay away from the spillover of the intensifying domestic political turmoil in the United States.

Of course, the purpose of promoting these changes is not to completely toss the United States aside, which is also impossible. Rather, it is to encourage Washington to play a much more constructive role in addressing global affairs.

And among all options, it is suggested that the beltway politicians first begin with ending the pernicious impasse.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/21/13 03:05 PM

“Time to Reset...Re-Architecturing of the Global Financial System is Happening Right Now”

Max Keiser 10-19-13… (from the Keiser Report, episode 512)

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/01/13 03:14 AM

I have some good news and some bad news. This post will cover some of the good news. Many groups and individuals have been setting up alternative systems to by-pass the New World Order/Mystery Babylon/Cabal/1% Elites(whatever you want to call them) system that today’s world is so dependable on.

I’m just going to list 3 major and most important systems, but there are more good system in the making that is about to be activated to make a smooth transition between the corrupt system of Mystery Babylon to another alternative system until the world(or the Lord) chooses a better one.

1. New (or reformed) Global world Bank System : There are a group of people that are currently working for BIS, IMF, and other World Bank structure that have whistleblower on the corruption and unlawful practices of Mystery Babylon opperating these world Bank structures. Karen Hughes is one major whistleblower joined with many others to restructure the World banking system and bring the system back into lawful order. I have posted many of her interviews here in this discussion(post #152401 , post #152637 , post #152890 , post #153535 ).

Here’s a very recent interview that Karen elaborates on what’s is currently taking place. She is saying that soon there will be a major turn around of the Bank System back to lawful practices and order.

Karen Hudes 10-20-13… “U.S. Has to Come Around to the Rule of Law”

Oct 20, 2013

“…Karen Hudes says, “The U.S. has to come around to the rule of law. . . . and we are on track with a 95% likelihood, and that is why I think the dollar is not going to tank.”

Join Greg Hunter of USAWatchdog.com as he goes One-on-One with former Senior Counsel for the World Bank, Karen Hudes…”


2. A New Universal Credit Rating Group : Dominique De villepin, former French president, has been working with the Chinese to form a new Credit Rating Agency that is not bought or run by Mystery Babylon. Here’s a link to post #153537 and link where Matt Taibbi that explain how the curren...on ponzi scheme and are falsely over rating those married to Babylon and under-rating those that are not.

Also, I have posted the video of Max Keiser talking about Dominique De Villepin Universal Credit Rating Group post #157441.

Here’s another news report about it :
The world needs new, non-US-centric rating agency: Dominique de Villepin
http://www.scmp.com/business/economy/art...que-de-villepin

Monday, 28 October, 2013
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The Big Three rating agencies have largely failed in their ability to appropriately assess risk worldwide.
The consequences of this failure stem from their having a predominantly US-centric perspective of the global economy.
But a new financial order is in the making, one in which the West is now losing its privileges.
The United States acquired its power after the second world war by becoming a net creditor internationally. It was able to dominate the old European powers, impoverished by successive wars.
The first of these privileges has been the control of currency.
When the US abandoned the gold standard, the US dollar became the world's de facto means of exchange. Those with the power to decide the value of the dollar have taken full advantage of it - and have used its global ubiquity to fund the accumulation of vast amounts of debt.
The US is now the world's largest debtor and its citizens the world's consumers of last resort.
The West's second historical privilege has been its control of the rules in financial markets, despite often reckless deregulation.
About 95 per cent of all credit ratings are given by the Big Three rating agencies: Standard & Poor's, Fitch and Moody's. Photos: Reuters, EPA
It is much easier to win a game when you are deciding the rules. It is even easier if you can change the rules during the game and according to your needs.
The Opium Wars, the break-up of China, the British Raj and the continent of Africa torn between European countries in the late 1800s are all good examples of historical privilege taken to excess.
The third privilege has been risk.
The West invented risk and controls risk. It decides what is risky and what is not. To a large extent, it has also been the sole arbiter of where money should go and where it should not.
Funds have, in fact, been directed towards projects in the West by undervaluing the risk of default there and then exaggerating those same risks in places such as China, India, Brazil and elsewhere.
There is a reason for this.
With about 95 per cent of all credit ratings under their control, the three major agencies are not only concentrated in the US, but also imposing an unrealistic template - culturally and ideologically - on the rest of the world.
But the world has changed in many respects.
The US and Europe are net debtors and the Asia-Pacific a net creditor. More than ever, we need to find a new imperative for responsible financial governance.
For the West, this means putting its fiscal house in order. For emerging economies, it means creating new tools to both shape and legitimise decision-making.
The illumination of information is essential and credit ratings bring invaluable perspectives about where money is being lent and what the chances are of it being paid back on time and in full. Investors do not like to work in the dark. But who can they trust? Those who say we have to live without light? Or those who say: "Why don't we light a lamp somewhere and take a closer look?"
This pressing need to provide the market with more competition where investors require it is precisely the reason to create a new global credit ratings agency in Asia, with new and innovative tools, including broader and more finely nuanced ratings criteria designed to be more rigorous and more detailed than those offered by the Big Three.
Despite the failings of the incumbents, rating agencies play an essential role in the world's financial architecture. The more credit assessment there is, the greater the transparency, depth and liquidity of capital markets.
And that is especially true in regions of the world where the development of new industries and infrastructure projects are most needed and their funding and risk assessment required.
Let the Big Three continue to offer their largely US-centric view of the world. But give investors the freedom to seek other opinions: to increase transparency, to provide a counter-point to Wall Street prejudices, and to create a new dimension in the constant search for capital allocation.
In summary, the financial crisis has marked the beginning of a worldwide revolution that will ultimately see the end of unwarranted economic privilege.
Dominique de Villepin, a former French prime minister, is chairman of the International Advisory Council, Universal Credit Rating Group



3. Bitcoin system : Bitcoin allows payment transaction between individual or between companies, all over the world with high encrypt system making it extremely secure and without the involvement of any Banking system with little fees. Bitcoin has grown over the past 10 years, have been recognize worldwide as a very valid, useful, and highly safe system. Canada has implemented their first Bitcoin machines in Vancouver and by December will add machines in all the major cities.

Here’s some info about Bitcoin.
http://www.bitcoin.com/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/01/13 05:30 AM

The above post is just the tip of the iceberg of all the good news, but the 3 above will have the most impact for a smooth transition.

Now is to bring about the bad news….....

let’s don’t lose sight of the good news and the fact that the Lord has everything in control. We need to trust in His plan and wisdom. He has told us that He will bring down Mystery Babylon so we will not be taken by surprise. What we are seeing is His great work.

Just past September, we saw that the world leaders did not buy Mystery Babylon’s false flag of blaming Assad for the chemical attack so they could launch World War III. The Lord intervened by given Putin, Russian's Leader, wisdom to divert that war. Mystery Babylon knows that their time is almost over and cannot deceive the world leaders into their tricks anymore. It is only a question of time before the Kings of the East (China, Russia, Brazil, South Africa, India, Indonesia, and over 130+ allied countries) will completely bring the West Empire(US, Canada, UK, France, etc) run by Mystery Babylon down.

So since they know they have little time, they will desperatly pull all they have right now to try to keep their power over the world and bring the New world order by instigating chaos and fear in the mass.

We should expect that many false flags are in the making and we need to be aware of it so we can prepare and be a light amongst those that are unaware of what is happening.


Here’s the following potential coming False Flags :

1. Banking and Economic collapse : Many economist have been predicting a world wide Banking system collapse because it is totally unsustainable. Despite these numerous warnings, the Lord has put Lindsay Williams Chaplin Pastor for the Alyeska Pipeline Company in Alaska where by providence was rubbing shoulders with the elites and have kept friendship with a few. Through the years they have been informing him of their plans. Last May, Lindsay was informed of a coming Bank collapse that Mystery Babylon will orchestrate to bring the mass in total ruin and in need of food, water, and basic needs so they will beg Mystery Babylon to come to their rescue. That’s the plan. This past May interview is available at post #152654 .

In that interview last May, Lindsey wasn't given a date but just of warning of the coming collapse. Just a few weeks ago, Lindsey’s Elite friend told him a date schedule Nov 17th according to the signs of JP Morgan Chase Bank annoncement.

Here’s the latest video of it :

What I understand is that Lindsay says that Nov 17th is only the beginning of the Bank collapse. But he says that the worse of it is the coming implementation of the new obamacare system in January.

Let’s keep in mind that the Lord can intervene and has intervene and divert any of Mystery Babylon’s plans. However we do not know the level of chaos that they will bring about and we need to be prepare so we can minimize the fear in the people and bring the good news that the Lord’s Kingdom is the next kingdom that will be in place according to Daniel 2 & 7.


JP Morgan Chase Bank has sent to all their customers a letter telling them that on Nov 17th, they will limit international wire and monthly transactions. This can be more than what they are letting on. In case, there’s more, let’s remember that you do have another alternative to do transactions with Bitcoins. See the post links above for more details.

Lindsey says that he things that Nov 17 us the date as the Cabals will always warn the people before it happens. We saw what they pulled with Syprus saying the week before that everything was fine, and they close the bank on everyone and did their IN-BAILING withdrawal of the peoples savings.
We do not know what will happen, but it doesn’t hurt to be prepare by not leaving much money in the bank and take these words of warnings.

2. A National Blackout as a False Flag : On Aug 27th Janet Napolitano of DHS(Former US. Homeland Security Secretary) warns of a "serious" cyber attack or unprecedented natural disaster in her resignation speech (see Outgoing DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano ...atural Disaster)

Remember, Mystery Babylon golden rule before conducting an action, is to warn the public of their plans in some form.

Another warning has come recently from Fox news mainstream media letting people know that there may be a potential US/Canada nationwide blackout & grid shutdown that can result by a cyber attack. That our national grid is very susceptible and it only takes one person to create a national chaos.

Fox news is interviewing Aton Edwards, expert in Disaster preparedness who help National Geographic prepare the film entitled “American Blackout” that will be aired this Sunday nationwide.

Here’s the Fox News clip about the coming film on TV:


Here’s the National Geographic Video Clip :
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/155680/American_Blackout_2013_Documentary/

Now, if this happens, remember this is a false flag set up to blame the Syrian government or Iranians government for this so to give themselves the green light to strike them in the World War they have been wanting to start for many years. Having the people in a crisis and having no electricity, will allow them to act immediately without their say.

It is speculated that this will happen just before the Banking collapse potential schedule on November 17, having some people suggesting around November 14 .

All of these are speculation. No one knows what Mystery Babylon will pull in their last hours, however, it would be wise to take heed of the warnings as they have issued 2 warnings and this is how they have operated in the past.

Because this is their last efforts, I do expect they will pull many things on the people at once; if it's in the Lord's plan. The Lord has His own plan in this and might work through Mystery Babylon last plan to some extend to bring awareness about how brainwashed we have become by Mystery Babylon. We do not know what will happen, to what extend it will happen, and how long it will happen.

The best way to prepare is to have food, water, and the bare necessities. Seeking the Lord guidance will be the only safe haven through this. In all of this, let's rejoice because this is the last of Mystery Babylon's manipulation we probably will witness.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/05/13 05:16 PM

Benjamin Fulford cross examines Karen Hudes

My comment : Here's an interview dated around Sept 28 that has just been released to the public. It's quite informative as both Karen and Benjamin has information from two differents source circle. Karen, Lawyer at the World Bank for 20 years, being very active in bringing the world bank back to the rule of law. Herself, and a group(over 150) working at the World Bank, are actively removing the corruption in the system which means no more Federal reserve(private Banked owned by the Cabals) and no more Jesuits, and no more of any other secret societies. Total transparencies is the aim with the new system that they want to simplify to a level that it would be impossible for any greedy group that wants to dominate can do the same as it was done with the Federal Reserve/US dollar and previous dominating empires in the world history.

Not one system, but a framework so to allow multiple systems to co-exist and compete letting countries figure out what works best.

She basically says that the Cabals(Mystery Babylon) are over and done with. However, multiple little factions that where operating with Mystery Babylon still wants to bargain their way to retain a little piece of the pie. But Karen says, NO -- no deals is going to be cut with any of them. She says they are not going to pull marshall law in the US or other schemes they have in their trick bag.

It will be interesting to see what the Lord will work out this coming months for He is in control and He will fulfill His prophecies and all His words spoken to Moses and His prophets.

Benjamin Fulford cross examines Karen Hudes (part1)
http://thaddle.com/m/videos/view/Benjamin-Fulford-cross-examines-Karen-Hudes-part1

Benjamin Fulford cross examines Karen Hudes (part2)
http://thaddle.com/m/videos/view/Benjamin-Fulford-cross-examines-Karen-Hudes-28part-2-29
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/24/13 01:19 AM

My Comment: This is it. Get ready for the transition into the new system.

Harbinger: 23 countries begin setting up swap lines to bypass dollar

http://www.examiner.com/article/harbinger-23-countries-begin-setting-up-swap-lines-to-bypass-dollar

November 18, 2013
Quote:
For several years, financial analysts, primarily those outside the mainstream of academia, have been warning that any day could be the black swan event that collapses the dollar, and ends U.S. hegemony as caretaker of the world's reserve currency. That day has finally arrived as on Nov. 18, a former head trader for a major financial institution issued a harbinger and stated that 23 countries, and 60% of the world's GDP, are right now setting up new swap lines which bypass the dollar, SWIFT, and the BIS, and will usher in a new global currency system which will kill the dollar.

“The thoughts that are put into the minds of men that are aware of what is occurring on trading floors all over the world is when? When is also the question that I get asked about quite often by thousands of people. So what is the “when”? The “when” is what is the sure sign that this fraudulent sham that we call an economy is over? Folks the biggest sign is when those that trade in the dollar to acquire goods, no longer want the worthless paper because of US “bully” policies or they have totally lost faith in the US as a responsible steward of it’s currency and economy. That day has arrived.

“All over the world economies that have not totally shot themselves in the foot by gambling in the Anglo-American casino are now moving to set up various currency exchanges by passing the dollar. - Rogue Money via Steve Quayle Q Alerts

The list of the 23 countries which are creating new swap lines outside of the dollar include China, Russia, India, and surprisingly, Germany, France, and the United Kingdom. This means that the Eurozone itself is abandoning the dollar, and preparing for transition to a new central banking system.

To facilitate the transfer of currencies and swap lines, there needs to be a bank of sufficient size and stature to aid in handling of this monumental task. One year ago, China, along with the BRICs nations of Brazil, Russia, India and South Africa, loaned money to a new financial institution they established and labeled the BRICs bank. This bank was created with the intention of bypassing the dollar, and allowing free trade to occur between nations without the need to trade for dollars first, as is currently the format under the petrodollar system. In fact, the new BRICs bank will function both as a bank of international settlement, as well as a lender of last resort, eliminating the need for the BIS and IMF, which currently reside under dollar dominion.

The only thing that stands in the way of the world's final rejection of the dollar is the wavering trust that Saudi Arabia and OPEC have with the U.S. in assuring oil transactions remain denominated in dollars under the 1970's Petrodollar agreement. But as the world has seen recently, even the Saudi kingdom is hedging towards a new global system, and has publicly stated that their ties to the U.S. are open for re-negotiation.

What started in September of last year, when an agreement between China and Russia ended the dollar's stranglehold over oil and how it was purchased, the past 14 months have seen a momentous rush towards setting up the infrastructure to replace the dollar completely in global transactions. And with 23 countries, including those from the BRICs nations and the Eurozone, preparing for new swap lines outside of dollar hegemony, the fuse has been lit on the dollar's death rattle, and the when has changed into the now.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/25/13 06:08 PM

Bitcoins - When you trace the dollar back, it was originally backed by gold. Something that had intrinsic value - although, maybe not much, it did have value.

When you trace the 'bitcoin' back, do you find something of value? Or value only in someone's imagination?
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/25/13 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Bitcoins - When you trace the dollar back, it was originally backed by gold. Something that had intrinsic value - although, maybe not much, it did have value. When you trace the 'bitcoin' back, do you find something of value? Or value only in someone's imagination?

smile

All currency is based on the arbitrary value attributed to it by agreement. In your house, you can choose to trade in stone. To those outside, it would be a worthless piece of junk; but for you, your future satisfaction would be directly proportional to the amount of stone currently in your possession.

The interesting thing about the Kingdom of God however, is that it has no monetary policy. Currency is completely alien to its domain. Instead, all things are freely given; and what a man does not have but wishes for, is his to receive in due time without covetousness. In that Kingdom, LOVE makes the world go around. The principle underlying its foundation is that all things belong to God, and God has chosen to share everything he has with his children. (Luke 22:24-30)

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Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/27/13 07:41 PM

However, there is value/substance to a stone. You can build with it, break open nuts, etc. Maybe not much value, maybe more value to those who have no stones, but of what inherit value is there to the imaginary bitcoin?

"The interesting thing about the Kingdom of God however, is that it has no monetary policy. "
I take it you are not in agreement with Elle on this thread?
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/29/13 06:14 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
However, there is value/substance to a stone. You can build with it, break open nuts, etc. Maybe not much value, maybe more value to those who have no stones, but of what inherit value is there to the imaginary bitcoin?

It's backed by local currency. You have to buy it using local currency.

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Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/29/13 06:24 PM

Currency! LOL. You mean, fiat currency.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/30/13 03:51 AM

Originally Posted By: APL
Currency! LOL. You mean, fiat currency.

https://www.canadianbitcoins.com/

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Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/05/13 03:41 AM

What is the current currency of the US Dollar based on? I assume the answer is still GOLD.

What will the other new currency be based on?
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/05/13 04:22 AM

November 17th has come and gone without anything happening as predicted here, so do we have a new date now?

Reminds me of the failed several JW predictions of the date of the return of Jesus Christ.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/05/13 11:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
November 17th has come and gone without anything happening as predicted here, so do we have a new date now?

Reminds me of the failed several JW predictions of the date of the return of Jesus Christ.

Nov 17? I think you are referring to one of the date Mystery Babylon has set. This is what they had in plan, however we know that the Lord is the one that calls the shots.

As far as the initial date set from the beginning of this discussion, that in 2012 there would be a Banking restructuring. This date was set by one faction of the Kings of the East known to come from the Chinese dynastic families. Despite that their estimated date has not come to term in 2012, the past 1.5 years we did see many major progress towards this end.

No-one know the date, however the signs are all around us. The 23 countries with the BRICS having set up a new Banking system bypassing Mystery Babylon's System is already a major stepping stone towards this end. Together they represent over 60% of the world population by-passing the USD(Mystery Babylon's ponsy scheme fiat currency).

However, I'm expecting a huge announcement very soon that all the currencies of the world will be re-evaluated. All currencies settings will be adjusted to reflect their countries true assets and values. Possession of Gold will be one of the assets that will give some value, but natural resources, commodities and whatever else will also determine it. Currently Mystery Babylon has unjustly over-rated the currencies of countries they White countrol like the USA and under-rated other countries not subjected to them or have been injustly been destroyed by war.

Mystery(secret) Babylon's system has already totally fallen. The leaders of the world are no longer manipulated by them anymore. The Kings of the East have as interest to protect the population and make their steps carefully to not bring in fear.

So we'll see the remaining steps of transitions that will unfold these coming next 2 months. Really no one knows for sure how it will happen but we know by the signs that there is a restructuring happening. We also know by prophecy that the Lord's plan was to make Babylon fall and that is done in terms He has removed Mystery Babylon's power and they are by-passed.

Now what's coming up next in the Lord's agenda, is to bring the people of the world(mainly the Christians) to repentance....for it was because of them(the Christians in the US & Canada) and their forefathers who did not obey the Lord laws, statues, judgments, and His voice that the Lord sold them(because of their sins) into several captivities. Mystery Babylon being the last one of the world empires to have been given this "priviledge" rulership. See Lev 26 & Deut 28 which is the key law & text that explains the Lord's judgment of this that has been going on for the pass 3000 years. However when a country or Empire rules over the Israelites (today the Christians), the debt of the Israelites or Christians are transfered to the empire. A reasonable time frame is set to give the Empire enough time to pay the debt. At judgment time the Lord will come expecting that Empire to pay off the debt by seeing fruits employed to bless the people. We all know that Mystery Babylon's fruits aren't good, like all the other empires who have come and pass. However, let us not forget the original reason why these empires were raised -- it was because of the Israelites and Christians sins. They were the one given the laws and the commission to bless all the families of the world.

They(Israelites and Christians) didn't deliver and were put into multiples captivities, but before being fully release from this last one -- the Lord requires that they repent. It is a MUST, if not then they will be sold again, however weknow from prophecies that Mystery Babylonis the last empire.

Since they(us) cannot repent of their own self....the Lord's goodness will come and lead them(us) into repentance. Now the goodness of the Lord can/could come in calamities-plagues because of the judgment of their sins. I personally don't know nor undestand the concept of plagues much, but we will see what will unfold.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/05/13 05:03 PM

Hey! I found a value for bitcoins. It may not be a "tangible" value, but still a value. If you want to buy or sell drugs, it provides a way that is not easily untraceable. It doesn't go through the banking and reporting system. While there may not be real value, people see a value to the use of it and therefore, it may last longer than most schemes.

As far as "backed" by local currency?
Buy Rate: $1147.58 Sell Rate: $898.15

"Backed"?
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/06/13 11:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Daryl
November 17th has come and gone without anything happening as predicted here, so do we have a new date now?

Reminds me of the failed several JW predictions of the date of the return of Jesus Christ.

Nov 17? I think you are referring to one of the date Mystery Babylon has set. This is what they had in plan, however we know that the Lord is the one that calls the shots.

As far as the initial date set from the beginning of this discussion, that in 2012 there would be a Banking restructuring. This date was set by one faction of the Kings of the East known to come from the Chinese dynastic families. Despite that their estimated date has not come to term in 2012, the past 1.5 years we did see many major progress towards this end.

No-one know the date, however the signs are all around us. The 23 countries with the BRICS having set up a new Banking system bypassing Mystery Babylon's System is already a major stepping stone towards this end. Together they represent over 60% of the world population by-passing the USD(Mystery Babylon's ponsy scheme fiat currency).

However, I'm expecting a huge announcement very soon that all the currencies of the world will be re-evaluated. All currencies settings will be adjusted to reflect their countries true assets and values. Possession of Gold will be one of the assets that will give some value, but natural resources, commodities and whatever else will also determine it. Currently Mystery Babylon has unjustly over-rated the currencies of countries they White countrol like the USA and under-rated other countries not subjected to them or have been injustly been destroyed by war.

Mystery(secret) Babylon's system has already totally fallen. The leaders of the world are no longer manipulated by them anymore. The Kings of the East have as interest to protect the population and make their steps carefully to not bring in fear.

So we'll see the remaining steps of transitions that will unfold these coming next 2 months. Really no one knows for sure how it will happen but we know by the signs that there is a restructuring happening. We also know by prophecy that the Lord's plan was to make Babylon fall and that is done in terms He has removed Mystery Babylon's power and they are by-passed.

Now what's coming up next in the Lord's agenda, is to bring the people of the world(mainly the Christians) to repentance....for it was because of them(the Christians in the US & Canada) and their forefathers who did not obey the Lord laws, statues, judgments, and His voice that the Lord sold them(because of their sins) into several captivities. Mystery Babylon being the last one of the world empires to have been given this "priviledge" rulership. See Lev 26 & Deut 28 which is the key law & text that explains the Lord's judgment of this that has been going on for the pass 3000 years. However when a country or Empire rules over the Israelites (today the Christians), the debt of the Israelites or Christians are transfered to the empire. A reasonable time frame is set to give the Empire enough time to pay the debt. At judgment time the Lord will come expecting that Empire to pay off the debt by seeing fruits employed to bless the people. We all know that Mystery Babylon's fruits aren't good, like all the other empires who have come and pass. However, let us not forget the original reason why these empires were raised -- it was because of the Israelites and Christians sins. They were the one given the laws and the commission to bless all the families of the world.

They(Israelites and Christians) didn't deliver and were put into multiples captivities, but before being fully release from this last one -- the Lord requires that they repent. It is a MUST, if not then they will be sold again, however weknow from prophecies that Mystery Babylonis the last empire.

Since they(us) cannot repent of their own self....the Lord's goodness will come and lead them(us) into repentance. Now the goodness of the Lord can/could come in calamities-plagues because of the judgment of their sins. I personally don't know nor undestand the concept of plagues much, but we will see what will unfold.

Elle, you're like a little child, and the global financial system like a new shiny toy which endlessly fascinates you but whose working eludes you, though you pretend to speak authoritatively on the matter.

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Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/06/13 12:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
What is the current currency of the US Dollar based on? I assume the answer is still GOLD.

What will the other new currency be based on?

No.

Currency is traded on the open market according to the perceived value placed on it by its sellers and buyers at any given moment, and is linked to the productivity of your economy and your financial policy.

Let's say you are making salt and selling a pound of it for one stone. Every time you sell a pound, you earn a stone from the market. And because you have a product that has a sure and stable market, your stones will have a stable and sure value. Because you're selling your salt in your stone, the buyers must pay in their own currency for stone in order to buy your salt. On the currency market therefore, a stone will be set at a price according to the amount of stone you have at your disposal to issue, because everybody wants YOUR STONE in order to buy what they need, YOUR SALT. You have the freedom to issue more or less stones according to the push and pull of the market to maximize your profit. All you need to be is a highly productive and valued economy.

No one uses the gold standard anymore.

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Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/06/13 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Hey! I found a value for bitcoins. It may not be a "tangible" value, but still a value. If you want to buy or sell drugs, it provides a way that is not easily untraceable. It doesn't go through the banking and reporting system. While there may not be real value, people see a value to the use of it and therefore, it may last longer than most schemes.

As far as "backed" by local currency?
Buy Rate: $1147.58 Sell Rate: $898.15

"Backed"?

Yes, the value of the bitcoin is always quoted in US dollars. It means it is bought and sold according to how many dollars others are willing to give you for it, in order for you to buy goods and services. It is not yet a common currency, though some places have advertised that they are willing to accept it. Until then, your stash of it is nothing more than an interesting idea.

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/26/13 07:26 PM

Sorry been busy. The news has been repeating the same old news which was not worthy to post.

Now there is some new "scandal" in regards to world economic affairs. I don't think they will get away with this, and it probably will backfire and will serve it's purpose to get the people more aware of the nature of Mystery Babylon and further distrusting her.

TPP – Wikileaks has released another bombshell!

Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a deal that currently Obama is trying to make with a handfull of International corporation to set the corporation the ability to create a new set of rules regulating 12 countries(US, Canada, Australia, Japan, S.Korea, etc...).

It is not a free trade deal, but the reality it is a giant monster give away deal that gives the corporation the ability to sue the countries for regulation they do not like. It would allow the corporation monopoly to expand.

In brief the TPP would sacrifice whatever counrties sovereignty left, internet freedom, and public health all in the name in helping private corporation.

This deal is being set almost entirely in secret. Notice that the media doesn't say much about this as they want this to go through without the people knowing and resisting it.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/30/13 06:55 PM

The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind - Hidden Secrets of Money
Ep 4 - Mike Maloney

[video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0#t=1106[/video]

Just saw this which help me understand how the system work. This is a very good explanation how the currencies system works. How currencies (not the same as money) are created via government, central banks, fractional reserve lending from banks and it's relation with tax, debt ceiling, and inflation. This scenario isn’t exclusive to the Federal Reserve in the USA, but provides clarity to how all central banks worldwide operate under a fiat currency system. This video doesn't focuss on any political party or nation. It is just an simple explanation of the currency system and how countries end up in debts.

From the 1.20 to 18:24 minute mark you will have the steps explained in a more detail fashion. At the 18:24 to 22 minute mark you have a recap of all that was covered from the beginning.

It takes a lot of the mysteries out of the complexe sytem. By making the system complex, it is how they were able to confiscate the wealth from the people.

By this means the government may secretly and unobserved, confiscate the wealth of the people, and not one man in a million will detect the theft.” John Maynard Keynes
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/31/13 07:30 PM

#138560 - 01/02/12 "about a new global economic restructuring arising in 2012".

#148963 - 01/11/13 "I think they had thought that it would of been done before 2012 ended, however, it is taking longer.... We'll see what the Lord will accomplish this year. "

#158982 - 12/05/13 "No-one know the date, however the signs are all around us. "

Hmmmm. If not in 2014, at least by the beginning of 2015. And if not at the beginning of 2015, at least by the end.....
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/01/14 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
#138560 - 01/02/12 "about a new global economic restructuring arising in 2012".

#148963 - 01/11/13 "I think they had thought that it would of been done before 2012 ended, however, it is taking longer.... We'll see what the Lord will accomplish this year. "

#158982 - 12/05/13 "No-one know the date, however the signs are all around us. "

Hmmmm. If not in 2014, at least by the beginning of 2015. And if not at the beginning of 2015, at least by the end.....
Yes... no one knows ... and I never claimed I knew either, but only showing the signs that Mystery Babylon is falling and has fallen -- nobody believes their lies anymore.

I have some interesting dates revolving around the 2520 years(7times) relating to Israel/America and Babylon/Mystery Babylon. I'm a bit busy these days so I don't have much time to write posts. So I'll be back later.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/06/14 06:12 PM

Well, before you start off on 7times, you better establish where you getting the 7times from...
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/07/14 05:22 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Well, before you start off on 7times, you better establish where you getting the 7times from...

People are always going to fall for that one: the desire to pronounce upon future matters smile

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/11/14 06:39 AM

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/12/14 09:09 PM

Been busy. The 7 times prophecy is found in Lev 26:18, 21, 24, 28. "AV Lv 26:18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins."

Basically, this prophecy is told to Israel for disobeying the Lord. This is the Law of Tribulation that starts Lev 26:14-46 and Deut 28:15-68.

The Laws of Tribulations

We SDAs are quite blind of who is the real enemy and suffer from a severe paranoia syndrome thinking everyone is out to get them during the time of tribulation. I know of it because I lived with this fear many years. This paranoia is described in Lev 26:17 “ I will set My face against you so that you will be struck down before your enemies; and those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee when no one is pursuing you. “ Notice the paranoia of the rebellious-believer running away from an imaginary enemy when all along they’re thinking “God is with us” when in reality it is the Lord who has set himself as the real and only enemy. He have raised up those neighbors to rule over you that you treated as enemies by which you should of considered them and treated them as your brother. This is a hard thing to swallow and the reality of how the Lord works. If His people would of followed His ways, Lev 26:1-16 says they would of been blessed and the Lord would of made them head and above all other nations. Nevertheless this is the real truth as plainly stated in Lev 26 and Deut 28. The Lord has not changed His laws and His ways towards His people in correcting them FIRST. He acts in this way today, and will still tomorrow until they repent.

Just like the Judahites when faced with old Babylon, they did not understand that it was the Lord who sent Babylon to execute His judgment on them despite Jeremiah told them many time before hand by which they should of clued in because they had gone through 6 captivities in previous history
#1. 8 years to Mesopotamia, Jud 3;
#2. 18 years to Moabites Jud 3:14;
#3. 20 years to Cannanites Jud 4:3;
#4. 7 years to Midians Jud 6;
#5. 18 years to Ammonites Jud 10; and
#6. 40 years to the Philistines Jud 16.

But no they forgot all the past consistent corrections from the Lord and rebellious Judahites believed in their own lies(via their idols twisting things nicely for them) despite all the prophets sent to tell them otherwise….they still believed that the Lord was still with them and Babylon was there enemy; when it was the other way around. Babylon had only the intention of taxing them at the beginning and let them live in their own country, but they believed in their false prophet Hananiah that said that the Lord will be with them to in not complying with bad Babylon’s demands. Amazing how blind a nation may have become despite all that the Lord has done in the past to show them His ways which was reveal in the Law in Lev 26 & Deut 28.

But the Lord did not take this further rebellion lightly and this was contempt of court as the Lord had passed judgment on them and this was another outright rebellion against the Lord. Babylon may have been barbarian uncircumcised unbelievers, despite the king of Babylon was called “my servant” and he was raised up for the purpose to bring judgment to correct rebellious Judah.

This is the same parallel we need to make with Mystery Babylon today. They were raised up and serving the Lord’s purpose to correct us because it is us who was in rebellion in the first place, who did not seek Him and His ways, who made all kind of false assumptions-conclusions-claims in the name of the Lord, were not living according to His laws(His ways), and did not establish or teach His laws(His ways) in our own homes & community; thus it is our(& our forefathers) fault that society has become so degenerative because we fail to bless all nations with the blessings of knowing the Lord and following Him alone.

It is not them(mystery Babylon, or any other enemy you might be blaming) that is in fault, but it is us who needs to repent from our evil ways.

....Continuing on next post
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/17/14 03:19 PM

There’s nothing new here with what is happening today. History has repeated and the world has been in captivity of Mystery Babylon the past 100 years. The Lord is acting out what was plainly laid in the laws of tribulations in Lev 26:14-46 and Deut 28:15-68. SDAs concept of the “time of tribulations” is not Biblical and is more in line with what the house of Judah falsely believed before their destruction. They felt their church belief was jeopardized by those uncircumcised outsiders, when all along all they had as beliefs was teachings of men (vomit Is 28:8) and they had stray from the Lord a long time ago.

There’s nothing the church needs to protect if they have the truth and walk in it. But if they have built their foundation on teachings of men and have nailed the truth(laws of the Lord) to the cross, then nothing out there will protect these falsehood because the Lord said He will become your enemy(Lev 26:17) and will correct more severely anyone who claims His name and does not live up to His standard that He has established in His laws.

If you(believers) disobey my laws(given to Moses) I will do this to you(correct you with judgment). If you still continue to disobey my laws, I will do that(another correction). If you still continue to disobey my laws, I will do that(another correction)….”

Read Lev 26 and Deut 28 there’s a long list of corrections that the Lord patiently administered before the 7 TIMES JUDGMENT.

The focus of the 7 times Judgment is towards Israel not Judah, for Israel carries the birthright and the promise of the inheritance, not Judah. Also the judgment was pronounce on Israel in Lev 26 and Deut 28. This is why the 7 times prophecy correlate with their destruction and deportation. Look at these correlation of these events exactly 2520 years apart. This is the Lord’s signature for only He can fulfill all these events on exact timing according to His laws.

745 BC……..........................................................................................1776
..[---------------------------------------------2520---------------------------------------------------]
Deportation of Israel Begins...........................................USA Declaration of Independance

721 BC................................................................................................1801
..[--------------------------------------------2520----------------------------------------------------]
Samaria(Israel Capital)Destroy...........................................Washington DC(US Capital) Build

604 BC..............................................................................................1917
..[--------------------------------------------2520----------------------------------------------------]
Jerusalem Conquered by Babylon................................................Jerusalem freed by Allenby

607 BC..............................................................................................1914
..[-------------------------------------------2520-----------------------------------------------------]
Babylon Becomes an Empire..............................Federal Reserve Act(Mystery Babylon) Signed

I haven’t posted any documents about the Federal Reserve Act much, but in case you didn’t know, they are an own corporation by Foreign entities mainly from England. They print money out of thin air and charge us interest to indebt the population and the whole world. It is a debt and unsustainable system to enslave the people.

Now coming back to these dates above, here’s a quote to explain the 100 years extension of the 2520 years from Stephen Jones a non-denominationalist.

Quote:
This “seven times” of dominion extended from 607 B.C. to 1914 A.D. But instead of ending, as one would normally expect, we saw the establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank, which extended our captivity for another century to the present time. The Federal Reserve Act was passed on December 23, 1913, and its hundredth anniversary is due in about two weeks on December 23, 2013.

The reason for the “extension of life,” prophesied in Daniel 7:12, is because Judah and Jerusalem were independent of beast rule from 163 to 63 B.C. after Antiochus Epiphanes desecrated the temple. The Judeans threw off the rule of Syria (part of the Grecian beast) in 163 B.C. and remained independent until Rome took Jerusalem in 63 B.C. Thus, the 2,520-year contract was suspended for a century, on account of Antiochus’ desecration, and this time had to be added at the end from 1913/14 to 2013/14.


607 BC................................................................................1914
..[-----------------------------------------2520----------------------------------------]
Babylon Becomes an Empire.............................Fed.Res.Act(Myst.Babylon)Signed 12/23/1913
...........................163 BC........23BC......................................1914..........2014
.............................[-----100------]...........................................[-----100------]
.............Jerusalem indep.100yrs from Beast ruling................100 yrs ext.for Myst.Bab. reign

Quote:
It appears that we are now at the end of this time period. Of course, keep in mind that Jerusalem was originally captured by Babylon in 604 B.C., which was three years after Babylon became an empire in 607. If we date things from 604 B.C., then the 2,520 year contract should have ended in 1916/1917, and the added century would take us to 2016/2017. So in the big picture, we will probably see some sort of 3-year transition in the fall of Babylon.”

604-607..............................................................1914-1917.................2014-2017
.....[------------------------------------ 2520 ----------------------------][----------- 100 ext. -----------]
3yrs(Jerus.Conquer. - Bab.became Emp.)..............3yrs(Myst.Bab.beg.destroy - tot.destruc.)

Thus, Dec 23 2013 is the beginning of the destruction of Mystery Babylon that will extend to the end of 2016. Keep your eyes open for Mystery Babylon as she doesn’t want to release the people from slavery just like Old Babylon refused to release Judah. We will see in this 3 years transition what the Lord will do to release the people. The 7 times Judgment is over for Israel, and it is time to release everyone – a Jubilee declaration over all the land. This means Mystery Babylon monetary system is going to crash like most foresaw in the financial & economic world. Be prepare.

Many Blessings
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/17/14 06:53 PM

Quote:
Look at these correlation of these events exactly 2520 years apart.
Does that mean we need only find events exactly 2520 years apart and make a conclusion?

Le 26:18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

And what should we make of:

Mt 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Mt 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/12/14 03:12 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Quote:
Look at these correlation of these events exactly 2520 years apart.
Does that mean we need only find events exactly 2520 years apart and make a conclusion?

Le 26:18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

And what should we make of:

Mt 18:21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Mt 18:22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.


Peter was not refering to a prophecy; he was asking a question to the Lord about how many times we should forgive our brother.

So Peter answered his own question with what he thought would be the correct answer. He knew 7 is known to be the perfect number. His answer was totally wrong, not only in the number of times, but his whole concept about forgiveness. The Lord corrected his answer by refering to the Jubilee prophesy which says that at the end of 7 times 7 -- all debts are canceled(debts is equivalent to a sin) and all men are set free and returned to their inheritance. Meaning all men will be given total forgiveness. This is the aim and meaning of all the sabbaths(weekly, 7th yearly, and Jubilee) by which the weekly and the 7th year are forebearance period of time pointing to the ultimate coming promise of the Jubilee which is the total forgiveness of all debts/sins.

The correlation of Israel's destruction and their captivity with Babylon (see 4 eventful dates 745BC, 721BC, 604BC, and 607BC in Post #161945 above) all these events correlates with a matching events exactly 2520 years (7 x 360) later. This is not coincidendal. It clearly show that the Lord hands was behind the fulfillement of these 4 events on the exact appointed time according to His word in Lev 26:18, 21, 24, 28. It is a sure sign that this is the fulfillment and meaning of the prophecy and what the Lord had in mind when He said AV Lv 26:18 "And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/12/14 04:18 AM

Many things has happened but I was waiting for BIG BIG news. What is happening currently with Russia and China is BIG BIG REAL GOOD NEWS!!!

Here's a very good article written by Peter Koenig who "is an economist and former World Bank staff. He worked extensively around the world in the fields of environment and water resources."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38165.htm

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Russia Announces Decoupling Trade From Dollar

China will re-open the old Silk Road as a new trading route linking Germany, Russia and China

By Peter Koenig

April 08, 2014 "ICH" - Russia has just dropped another bombshell, announcing not only the de-coupling of its trade from the dollar, but also that its hydrocarbon trade will in the future be carried out in rubles and local currencies of its trading partners – no longer in dollars – see Voice of Russia

Russia’s trade in hydrocarbons amounts to about a trillion dollars per year. Other countries, especially the BRICS and BRCIS-associates (BRICSA) may soon follow suit and join forces with Russia, abandoning the ‘petro-dollar’ as trading unit for oil and gas. This could amount to tens of trillions in loss for demand of petro-dollars per year (US GDP about 17 trillion dollars – December 2013) – leaving an important dent in the US economy would be an understatement.

Added to this is the declaration today by Russia’s Press TV – China will re-open the old Silk Road as a new trading route linking Germany, Russia and China, allowing to connect and develop new markets along the road, especially in Central Asia, where this new project will bring economic and political stability, and in Western China provinces,where “New Areas” of development will be created. The first one will be the Lanzhou New Area in China’s Northwestern Gansu Province, one of China’s poorest regions.

“During his visit to Duisburg, Chinese President Xi Jinping made a master stroke of economic diplomacy that runs directly counter to the Washington neo-conservative faction’s effort to bring a new confrontation between NATO and Russia.” (press TV, April 6, 2014)

“Using the role of Duisburg as the world’s largest inland harbor, an historic transportation hub of Europe and of Germany’s Ruhr steel industry center, he proposed that Germany and China cooperate on building a new “economic Silk Road” linking China and Europe. The implications for economic growth across Eurasia are staggering.”

Curiously, western media have so far been oblivious to both events. It seems like a desire to extending the falsehood of our western illusion and arrogance – as long as the silence will bear.

Germany, the economic driver of Europe – the world’s fourth largest economy (US$ 3.6 trillion GDP) – on the western end of the new trading axis, will be like a giant magnet, attracting other European trading partners of Germany’s to the New Silk Road. What looks like a future gain for Russia and China, also bringing about security and stability, would be a lethal loss for Washington.

In addition, the BRICS are preparing to launch a new currency – composed by a basket of their local currencies – to be used for international trading, as well as for a new reserve currency, replacing the rather worthless debt ridden dollar – a welcome feat for the world.

Along with the new BRICS(A) currency will come a new international payment settlement system, replacing the SWIFT and IBAN exchanges, thereby breaking the hegemony of the infamous privately owned currency and gold manipulator, the Bank for International Settlement (BIS) in Basle, Switzerland – also called the central bank of all central banks.

To be sure – the BIS is a privately owned for profit institution, was created in the early 1930’s, in the midst of the big economic melt-down of the 20th Century. The BIS was formed precisely for that purpose – to control the world’s monetary system, along with the also privately owned FED and the Wall Street Banksters – the epitome of private unregulated ownership.

The BIS is known to hold at least half a dozen secret meetings per year, attended by the world’s elite, deciding the fate of countries and entire populations. Their demise would be another welcome new development.

As the new trading road and monetary system will take hold, other countries and nations, so far in the claws of US dependence, will flock to the ‘new system’, gradually isolating Washington’s military industrial economy (sic) and its NATO killing machine.

This Economic Sea Change may bring the empire to its knees, without spilling a drop of blood. An area of new hope for justice and more equality, a rebirth of sovereign states, may dawn and turn the spiral of darkness into a spiral of light.

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My Comments : Peter Koenig is among many free-thinking economists that sees the current unsustainable banking system (created by Mystery Babylon) coming to its end. Many now know that the Federal Reserve Bank, the Bank of International Settlements, the IMF and other institutions are all privately owned by the 1% ("elites") who created it to bring the world into debts and to enrich themselves. So Russia and China challenges to Mystery Babylon's system is a desired change.

As according to Lev 26 prophesy, it is time to free Israel and the World from Mystery Babylon. As with old Babylon, they didn't want to release the people after the allowed time of captivity was up. The Lord raised up a “messiah” named Cyrus and Darius to overthrow Babylon. This is the TYPE for the current destruction of Mystery Babylon is being replayed today where Cyrus is played by China and Darius by Russia.

This is very good news for our release from Mystery Babylon has come. We will see many good changes very quickly and soon as the current economic system is too vulnerable to last very long to take these new development. The only bad thing is Obama(White leader), NATO, other Zionist and Nazi groups(all affiliated with Mystery Babylon and 1st Beast of Rev 12) will not give up without a fight as they attempt to start World War III as their only escape door. I do not believe that they will succeed in their attempt for their time appointed to rule is up(see post#161945). Maybe some brief war a few places locally, but it won't be worldwide. The Lord will not allow it.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/20/14 04:12 PM

Dollar dying; multi-polar world in offing

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/04/18/359119/dollar-dying-multipolar-world-in-offing/

Fri Apr 18
by F. William Engdahl "is a political economist specializing for more than thirty years in geopolitical analysis of global events."

Quote:
Washington’s decision to go for the military coup in Ukraine was intended to rupture the emerging cooperation between key Eurasian nations that ultimately would have isolated the power of US hegemony and opened the door for a genuine multi-polar world where peaceful cooperation replaced military threats and sole Superpower domination.

The very rich and powerful families who control the US military industry complex reacted by trying to revert to their tried strategy of re-activating a new Cold War that paints Russia as evil and tries to cripple or severely weaken her. Ultimately it was a stupid decision being implemented by very stupid people, who believe they are very smart.

One of the unintended consequences of their stupidity is the fact that because of the foolish US decision to impose economic sanctions on Russia over Crimea’s annexation, Washington has forced Moscow to react by selling Gazprom bonds not in the dollar market but rather in the fast-emerging Chinese Yuan. The US has just shot itself in the foot.

OAO Gazprom, the world’s biggest natural-gas producer, plans to issue Chinese Yuan-denominated debt in the coming days. Because of Obama Administration sanction threats, the interest rate for Gazprom debt in dollars is rising dramatically while that of Yuan debt is falling, making it attractive to issue the Yuan debt. But this is a decision that makes more than business sense. It accelerates a trend by Russia, China, Iran and other countries to abandon the US dollar as world central bank and trade reserve currency.

Wars with other countries’ money
The role of the US dollar as the world’s leading reserve currency is more than a status symbol. Since the creation of the Bretton Woods monetary order in 1944, the role of the dollar as reserve currency has been at the center of American power. After August 1971, when Nixon ended the convertibility of foreign-held dollars for US Federal Reserve gold stocks, the dollar has been a fiat currency whose relative value has fluctuated up and down.

Today, despite the worst economic depression in the USA since the 1930’s and despite three decades of US trade deficit, combined with a soaring Government debt that is now over 103% of GDP, the US Government is able to finance wars in Syria, Libya, Afghanistan and elsewhere because of the reserve currency role. Other trading nations like China or Russia who buy or sell dollar-priced
goods must have dollars for trade, so their central banks invest their trade surpluses into “safe” US Treasury bonds.

Ironically, that has in effect meant that the US has been able until recently to finance its foreign wars and trillion dollar military budget using Chinese, Russian and other nations’ dollars.

When the Euro threatened the reserve currency status of the dollar in 2010 as Washington ran annual trillion dollar+ budget deficits, the Chinese and others began buying bonds denominated in Euros instead to diversify their risk of a possible US default.

To prevent the emergence of the Euro, Washington launched a financial warfare operation using key Wall Street banks like Goldman Sachs and JP MorganChase together with the US-based credit rating agencies Standard & Poors and Moodys and the US Federal Reserve to prevent the shift to the Euro. It was called the “Greek Crisis.” The Euro fell and the dollar was suddenly “safe haven...”, for a while.

But other national central banks took notice that the dollar was losing its value, as Washington continued to print money without limit, in order to rescue the bankrupt Wall Street banks with what the Federal Reserve calls Quantitative Easing.

China, Russia and other major trading nations have quietly begun to develop alternatives to using the US dollar for their bilateral trade.

Dramatic shift in dollar role
A new report by the International Monetary Fund reveals a dramatic shift in the role of the US dollar as reserve currency. Some 23 countries today report holding Chinese Yuan as official reserves. That, despite the fact the Yen, much like the French Franc after World War II, is not yet fully convertible into other currencies. The Chinese are moving to convertibility in very carefully measured steps.

Not only do 23 other central banks hold Yuan officially, twelve more have invested in Yuan without officially declaring so.

The most dramatic point in the IMF report is the fact that the relative role of the US dollar in central bank reserves is rapidly declining. Yes, the dollar is still the largest reserve currency. But whereas in 2000 some 55% of all reserves worldwide were in US dollars, today it has declined to 33%. And the trend is accelerating. The IMF does not list the Yuan as an official reserve currency as it is not yet convertible. In its statistics the Yuan falls under the category “other currencies.” The Other Currency share according to the IMF has doubled since the US invasion of Iraq in 2003.

In recent years the central bank of China has been buying gold in huge amounts to prepare for Yuan becoming a fully convertible currency. Now, with Russian companies increasingly looking east to China and Asia generally, the shift away from the dollar could accelerate dramatically, forcing US interest rates sharply higher and significantly increasing the pressures on Washington’s government spending.

The foolish Obama sanctions threats against Moscow are simply accelerating the refocus of giant Russian companies like Gazprom and Norlisk Nickel to the huge Asian market. Russian mining companies, including OAO GMK Norilsk Nickel, the world’s largest producer of nickel, are stepping up activities in Asian markets in the last month.

A China-Iran-Russia Triangle
The NATO-led Ukraine coup and ensuing crisis have dramatically accelerated the trend not only by Russian companies to look east. Other nations realize they could someday be target of Washington sanctions and are looking to lessen their dollar exposure. Iran and Russia recently announced a huge barter deal that allows the two to skirt US-imposed economic sanctions.

On April 2, the two countries agreed a barter deal that would reportedly be worth up to $20 billion, enabling Tehran to boost vital energy exports in defiance of Western sanctions. Reportedly Moscow would buy up to 500,000 barrels a day of Iranian oil in exchange for Russian equipment and goods. Russian technical assistance in building two new nuclear plants in Iran are reported part of the deal, as well as purchases of various metals and perhaps Russian missiles. The dollar, of course, would play no role. Washington was furious, but why should Russia or Teheran obey US-dictated measures of economic warfare when both now are being attacked by them?

And in May, Russian President Putin is scheduled to fly to Beijing where he is expected to sign a mammoth 30-year deal to supply China’s energy-hungry economy with Russian gas. State-owned Gazprom plans to pump 38 billion cubic meters (bcm) of natural gas per year to China from 2018 via the first pipeline between the world's largest producer of conventional gas to the largest consumer. Signing this deal after almost a decade of tough negotiations would mark another major step away from the dollar in international trade as both countries seek to free themselves from dollar wars or threats of same.

When Rosneft’s Igor Sechin was in Tokyo in late March discussing energy deals there, he told the press that US sanctions on Russia over Crimea could have negative consequences for the West. He declared that more sanctions over Moscow's seizure of the Black Sea peninsula from Ukraine would be counter-productive.

The underlying message from the head of Russia's biggest oil company, Rosneft, was clear: If the USA and EU try to isolate Russia, Moscow will look East for new business. That will include major new energy deals, military contracts and political alliances. China surpassed Germany as Russia's biggest buyer of crude oil this year when Sechin’s Rosneft secured deals to boost eastward oil supplies via the East Siberia-Pacific Ocean pipeline and another crossing Kazakhstan.

What is emerging is a tectonic shift in monetary relations with the largest nations of Eurasia to conduct bilateral trade denominated in either Rubles or Renminbi, or gold. If we add Iran, possibly Iraq and India, and now, with Turkey’s Recep Erdogan looking away from NATO for new allies, amid his life-or-death battle with the CIA-run Fetullah Gülen, Turkey could well join such an emerging Eurasian economic alliance.

Unintended consequences
The Ukraine NATO coup and Washington’s disastrous attempt to topple Syria’s Assad have accelerated the creation of what they ultimately most want to avoid. It’s what Zbigniew Brzezinski warned of in his 1997 The Grand Chessboard when he wrote, “It is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of also challenging America.” The former Obama adviser went on to state,

"In that context, how America 'manages' Eurasia is critical. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world's three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania (Australia) geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent. About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for about three-fourths of the world's known energy resources."

Brzezinski then spoke of what he called a “Zone of Percolating Violence.” The heat on the percolator, of course, would be regulated by Washington and NATO.


The people in Washington or Brussels, like Brzezinski or the pathetic Victoria Nuland at the State Department—the former Dick Cheney aide who was given responsibility for the logistics of the Ukraine NATO coup—are essentially stupid people. They are stupid in a very specific way. Not that they are not well-educated, some from the finest “elite” universities, with years of political experience.

Their stupidity lies in their inability to think-through or foresee the global consequences of their actions.


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/20/14 04:33 PM

The Eurasian Union and its new currency
Apr 18, 2014

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...s-new-currency/

"Here is a very informative article that tells of the new Eurasian Union that is coming as a result of the US government’s “sanctions” policy. This is somewhat like the European Union, except that it includes Russia and Asian nations. Just as the European Union has its own currency, the euro, so also is the Eurasian Union developing its own currency, the altyn (which means “gold”). Actually, it is the revival of a very old currency that was used in the Middle Ages by merchants and traders.

Global Consequences: Russia Announces Eurasian Union and New Currency Altyn

http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/20...currency-altyn/
Apr 14
by Lada Ray

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.On multiple prior occasions I have predicted that any sanctions against Russia by the West will only backfire, expediting Russia’s re-orientation to the East and the unavoidable re-molding of the Western financial/economic model.

Russia’s re-orientation and subsequent creation of the independent financial system is what the banksters of Wall Street and London City fear most. This will eventually result in a catastrophe for the US/UK and EU, except for those European countries that succeed in re-orienting their economies to the East. Meanwhile, Russia, China and other countries in the Eurasian space, will benefit tremendously. Read: Ukraine Part 7: Russia’s Geopolitics, USA’s Bluff and EU’s Big Mistake.

The US and EU can be proud: as a result of their aggressively provocative behavior and the double standards galore, they managed to expedite the process by at least ten years.

The Presidents of Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus have officially announced that the transition of the semi-formal Customs Union into the formal economic Eurasian Union will be expedited and completed by 2015. The Eurasian Union will adopt a new currency: Altyn (Rus: Алтын). Vladimir Putin announced that Altyn as the new Eurasian currency was originally planned for 2025, but now, due to the US/EU sanctions against Russia, the transition to Altyn may occur within 3-5 years.

Effectively, Russia is sending a signal to its “Western partners,” as Putin so diplomatically calls them, that since Russia’s interests are not being respected by the West, its new pivot is the East. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I’ll repeat again: driving a wedge between Russia and Western Europe is one of the big geopolitical goals of the USA, and Western Europe is very, very foolish to allow itself to be duped yet again.

The Eurasian Union and Altyn announcements are in addition to the earlier announcement that Russia is developing its own universal payment system after Visa and MasterCard tried to block Russian transactions. The Visa and MC since backtracked, but the damage was already done. Russia may unveil its new sovereign payment system as early as this year. The new Russian system will be linked to the Chinese and Japanese sovereign payment systems, which are currently accepted in 70 countries. This payment system will eventually be used by the Eurasian Union. For more, read: Sanctions Backfire. Goodbye Visa: Russia Will Create Its Own Payment System

Eventually, the Eurasian Union may also become a military union, countering NATO.

The initiative to create the new currency came from the Kazakh President, Nursultan Nazarbayev. In 2012, Vladimir Putin supported this idea.

Altyn has a very ancient and long-ranging history. What is Altyn?

Altyn means gold. The word is of Turkic origin (not to be confused with Turkish). The Turkic family of languages includes languages spoken by the Siberian peoples, Tatars, Mongols, and of course, Kazakhs.

Russia always was a multi-national country and Turkic languages have been some of the widely spoken in the country. In ancient and medieval times, Russians traded and maintained very extensive relations with Asia and the Middle East. The Silk Road and other important eastern trade routes went through Russia. Medieval Russians routinely spoke Arabic and Turkic languages just as fluently as their native language. Some Turkic words became part of the Russian language. One such word was “denga,” from Turkic “tenge.” The contemporary Russian word for money is “dengi” in plural.

Another such word was “altyn.” From the sheer number of the financially related Turkic words it is clear how important historically was the Russian trade relationship with its Eastern neighbors.

Altyn was the name of the ancient gold coin once used by Russians extensively for trade with Turkic and Arabic neighbors. Later, in medieval times, altyn, or “altynnik,” became one of the regular Russian coins. In 15th century, altyn equalled six Moscow dengi, or 1/200s of a Moscow ruble. It also equaled three Novgorod dengi, or 1/100s of a Novgorod ruble. “Denga” was also called “kopeika” (kopeika is presently the 1/100s of a ruble). In the ancient times it was also called the arian “kuna.”

The old Russian proverb was: “Had nothing, and all of a sudden, altyn.” Rus: “Не было ни гроша, да вдруг алтын”. This is an equvalent of English: “From rags to riches.” In those days kopeikas and altyns were big money. And only the rich owned rubles. Of course, back then all currency was real gold, silver and bronze.

In this regard, the meaning of Altyn, “gold,” is very telling.

Through Altyn, Russia/Kazakhstan/Belarus, in short the new Eurasian Union, are sending a signal that they are targeting the gold standard. Along with China also targeting the gold standard through the Yuan, the new Eurasian currency will lead to the demise of the dollar as world reserve currency.

This is where it gets really interesting! Russia is one of the largest producers of gold. Despite that, together with China, Russia is a net importer of gold. Russia officially admits to roughly 1000 tons of gold in reserves. However, the real number is several times higher. China has recently increased its publicly admitted gold reserves from 1000 tons to just under 3000 tons. Again, multiply this by 2, or more. Kazakhstan is never spoken of as a gold powerhouse and they make it a point not to advertize their gold reserves. But in addition to the rich oil and gas deposits, as well as fertile soils, Kazakhstan possesses sizable deposits of gold. It is clear that their gold reserves are substantial.

According to Paul Craig Roberts and other analysts, the US gold reserves have been loaned out to dealers who sold that gold in order to maintain the illusion of lower gold prices, stable dollar and solvent economy; in short, to postpone the demise of the dollar as world reserve currency. Lately, when China started demanding delivery on its futures gold contracts, a large chunk of the US gold reserves had to be delivered to cover obligations and to avoid Comex default. It has been long suspected, and now it’s accepted by most observers, that the Fort Knox is empty. It appears the US gold reserve is all but gone, or at least greatly diminished. There is no way of knowing for certain how little of the publicly announced 8,000 tons of gold is left, since no audits of the US gold reserve are allowed.

I strongly suspect that at least in part, the Cyprus banking debacle was connected to the fact that Russia used Cyprus as its gold clearing house. My conclusion is that several years ago Russia quietly began demanding delivery on its gold futures contracts, just like China lately. And they did it via Cyprus. That was one of the reasons Cyprus banking haven had to be closed down: to make it more difficult for Russia to stockpile gold.

I believe that Russia discovered 5-6 years ago that the US had been dumping naked shorts in the market in order to keep the price of gold down and dollar value artificially up, and that Russia was first to capitalize on that on a massive scale, demanding delivery. If this is the case, then it becomes clear why the West believed that the Cyprus banking haven closure would be a blow to Russia. The official explanation that it was hurting Russian oligarchs didn’t hold water. I discussed why in my earlier piece on Cyprus here.

It appears that the US managed to temporarily slow down the Russian gold purchases. In addition, they leaned on India to slow down the India population’s gold imports. India’s population is considered the world’s largest holder and purchaser of gold. By estimates, Indian households privately hold 25,000 tons of gold.

These two moves bought the US a couple of years. Those who follow gold and silver will recall that crash of the gold and silver markets coincided with the timeframe of the Cyprus banking debacle. India’s ban on gold imports reinforced that.

Here is the problem: Since over the years US spent most of its gold reserves creating an illusion of the solvent dollar, they had to find more gold somewhere else when China started demanding delivery on its gold contracts. To accomplish that, the US had to raid the gold reserves of other counties whose gold it held in trust at the New York Fed. It became impossible to cover up the fact that the gold was gone after Germany demanded part of its gold back. Out of the 1500 tons it has been storing at the NY Fed, Germany demanded only 400 tons back. However, even that partial amount the US couldn’t muster. Germany was told that the delivery had to be made over the course of 7 years, at the rate of 50 tons per year. In the first year, the US was able to deliver only 5 tons, essentially admitting to the world that the US squandered the gold it held in trust for other nations.

The economic and financial system of capitalism and consumer economy is fastly collapsing. In conjunction with that, the re-distribution of power is happening. The energy is progressively shifting from the West to the East. This is a normal cycle. In medieval times the center of the world trade and riches were Asia, Russia and the Middle East. At the same time as Europe was destitute as a result of poor economy and devastating feudal wars; when cities like Paris and London were gloomy and highly undesirable places to be, Russia was called the golden-domed land of a hundred cities. In fact, there were over 240 cities in Russia at the time. At the time when Europe was going through the Dark Ages, the Middle East experienced the Golden Age punctuated with incredible breakthroughs in science, art and medicine. China and India were highly desirable places to be with untold riches, which were a dream of every traveler and merchant.

This cycle is making a full circle; the power is shifting again to the East and away from the West.

Through this entire decade, as well as the two decades that follow, humans will continue experiencing this tectonic revolutionary shift. We are present at the point of a fundamental transformation of the existing world architecture into something completely different. The new centers of power in the East are growing and the old ones in the West are dying. The 20th century capitalism and socialism were two sides of the same coin, meant to always oppose each other. The old capitalist system is now on its death bed. As the USSR socialist system went away with the collapse of the country, the old standoff between the two 20th century rival economic systems was supposed to stop.

Unfortunately, the US and those who are associated with the old system, won’t go away quietly. When the USSR collapsed, it did so quietly. The USA on the other hand, will try to drag whoever they can with them into abyss. It’s not about the socialism vs. capitalism any more. In fact, it never was. It had always been about the control of the world.

The USA empire will continue grasping desperately at straws. They will continue pretending they are still in control. They will make it as difficult as possible for everyone else to transition to the new system through sabotage and by instigating conflict and chaos. We have seen it in Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and elsewhere throughout the globe. We are presently seeing it in Ukraine. This is their modus operandi; they are not capable of admitting their mistakes or going away with dignity. They remind me of the Hollywood movie villains. No wonder Hollywood is so good at portraying villains – they observe them every day in their own country. As a character of the movie Knight and Day, starring Tom Cruise and Cameron Diaz, said addressing one such die-hard villain, “Just die already!”

As the US and EU debt burden grows, as economy falters, the US becomes increasingly desperate to slow down the progress of the newly emerging alternative Eurasian model. As I predicted many times before, this can only succeed very short-term and very temporarily. In the long run it cannot succeed. Only in the past year the US suffered some pretty humiliating blows as a result of the NSA/ Snowden scandal and the Syria fiasco. Any USA’s actions to undermine other countries will continue backfiring on themselves.

The creation of the alternative gold-backed and/ or natural-resource-backed currencies and economies, juxtaposed to the worthless Western paper currencies, and removed from the declining and corrupt Western economic system, will continue.

As I have predicted in the beginning of the Ukraine crisis, the decline of the West and the rise of the East is only being expedited by the actions of the US, EU and their Kiev stooges.



Comment : According to the law of unintended consequences, the Russian planners probably do not realize how this will all end. One needs to look at Bible prophecy to get that information, which can be understood if readers know how to identify the characters, such as Mystery Babylon. What we are seeing in the news is the overthrow of Mystery Babylon and its economic system. Step 2 will be the rebuilding of the Kingdom of God, although it is unlikely that the leaders of Russia or China have more than a dim revelation of this.

In most ways, the building of the nations, their currencies, and their economies, will be distinct from the Kingdom of God. These two things will develop alongside of each other, much like the Kingdom of Cyrus (Persia) existed alongside of the rebuilding of the old Jerusalem in the days of Ezra. Yet the link between them is seen in the fact that Persia funded the work rebuilding in a practical sense. So also can we expect to see the same in our time, as the prophetic type emerges into the world in its full-blown expression.

Once again, these events are not things to fear, but rather we are to prepare our hearts for the work that lies ahead. Accompanied by the last great outpouring of the Holy Spirit, it will be the greatest time of world evangelism ever seen.
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/31/14 08:54 PM

Global Shift: Eurasian Economic Agreement and New Currency Altyn
Here's a good informative video by Lada Ray who is Born in Russia, a linguist, financial consultant, author of several books, and Feng Shui Master.

The video reports all the latest news about the Eurasian Union development including the latest on the news : Russia, Kazakhstan, and Belarus have signed the Eurasian Economic Agreement and The 400 Billion Dollar Gas Deal with China . She analyses the global consequences of the Eurasian Union and new Eurasian currency Altyn and gives information about gold in the USA and US dollar, Russia, China, Eurasia and EU; history of the new Eurasian currency Altyn and its origins; Cyprus banking crisis and its connection to Russia’s gold reserves; what are the real gold reserves of China, Russia, India and Kazakhstan and long cycles of human development.

[video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMvBAUypidU#t=206[/video]
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/02/14 05:14 PM

"Feng Shui Master"

I see....
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/03/14 09:45 PM

Originally Posted By: kland


"Feng Shui Master"

I see....




smile

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Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/09/14 06:45 PM

We are now two years later and nothiug has happened yet.

Even news about the financial whistle blower that was on Russia Today has become old and forgotten news.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/15/14 04:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
We are now two years later and nothiug has happened yet.

I agree no banking restructure has happened yet, but many things did happen in setting this up in the past two years. A major worldwide banking restructure is no small ordeal and lots of preliminary work is needed before it is activate and made live worldwide. This effects all countries and all Banks. And then you have Mystery Babylon that doesn’t want their system to be changed but are pressed to do so.

The announcement that was made in the first post of this thread, I believe was based on the Basel III agreement made in 2010 by world countries and banks. In this agreement the bank restructure was to be implemented by 2013. I wasn’t aware of this Basel III agreement until June of last year. Details about Basel III can be found in Post #153569 or on the internet.

I believe China was the main pusher of having all the world Banks restructured by having something tangible like gold and other assets to back their currencies rather than how the banks are setup today – backed by thin air. To have a good you-tube illustration & explanation of how the current banking-economy system works can be found in Post #159795 . You can see that the current Babylonian system obviously needs to be changed and totally restructured. This is what is in process and what I understand the Basel III is all about.


Of course Mystery Babylon doesn’t want to change their slavery banking system and have been giving lip service since 2010 and these plans have been delayed.

While the world banking Basel III implementation is being delayed, we have seen two major development :

1- The BRICS system (Post #164231) being installed

2- The Eurasian Union (Post #164454) alliance and system announcement.

These associations and systems are design to bypass the current US-UK-EU(Mystery Babylon) financial system. Both BRICS and Eurasian Union are developing their own system. Plus these associations represents close to or over 70% of the world populations & GDP. Iran and many other countries will join them. I read an article today saying the Saudi probably will join too. And Germany and France are showing interest also which will be devastating to the EU.

This week we’re suppose to see some public announcement and implementation of Basel III compliance of the current banking system. We’ll soon see if it will. If not, then the BRICS and Eurasian will be up sooner than later. Whatever happens which will be what the Lord has in plan to happen, Mystery Babylon Banking system will be replaced by 2016 according to Daniel and Lev 26 prophesy (see Post #161666 and Post #161945 )

Originally Posted By: Daryl
Even news about the financial whistle blower that was on Russia Today has become old and forgotten news.

You are referring to Snowden. I saw a recent interview by NBC / CNN who went to Russia to interview Snowden. I was surprise to hear

- that Snowden was not only a computer consultant but a hired spy....

- the way he talked in favor of the NSA.....

- the fact that mass mainstream Babylon-owned media has given Snowden significant on-going coverage from the begining....

- and with the current development to produce a movie on Snowden by Oliver Stone.....

.....gives me the suspicion that

=== Snowden is a Babylonian tool and setup to lead the Sheeple to accept NSA spying activities.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/16/14 06:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Daryl
We are now two years later and nothiug has happened yet.

I agree no banking restructure has happened yet, but many things did happen in setting this up in the past two years. A major worldwide banking restructure is no small ordeal and lots of preliminary work is needed before it is activate and made live worldwide......
....well, we didn't actually find weapons of mass destruction, but we found potential items......and we needed to go over there......and......
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/28/14 11:38 AM

EXCLUSIVE - BRICS emerging nations close to launching bank; to start lending in 2016

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/05/29/brics-banking-idINKBN0E92DI20140529

Quote:
By Alonso Soto

BRASILIA Fri May 30, 2014
(Reuters) - The five BRICS nations will likely agree to fund their $100 billion development effort equally, giving them the same rights in a new multilateral bank that could start lending in two years, a senior Brazilian government official told Reuters on Thursday.

Capitalization of the bank was one of the main sticking points in the sometimes tortuous negotiations among the emerging powers to create a joint lender to finance infrastructure projects in developing nations.

The new bank would symbolize the growing influence of emerging economies in the global financial architecture long dominated by the United States and Europe through the International Monetary Fund and World Bank.

Negotiations to create the lender have dragged on for two years, with some members growing weary of China's desire to have a bigger stake in the bank by putting in more capital. But this hurdle is being overcome.

"The majority wants an equal sharing of the capital and there is no other specific proposal on the table," said the official, who is directly involved in the negotiations. "This is not going to be a problem."

Leaders of Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa are expected to sign a treaty to launch the bank officially when they meet at a BRICS summit in the northern Brazilian city of Fortaleza on July 15.

The bank, which will have start-up capital of $50 billion, will have to be ratified by the countries' legislatures and could begin lending in two years, said the official, who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly.

Of that start-up capital, the countries will put in a total of $10 billion in cash and $40 billion in guarantees, which will be used to raise capital on international markets.

The new development bank would help cover growing demand for project financing that has not been fully met by global multilaterals, which for years have been heavily criticized for meddling in the domestic policies of sovereign borrowers.

"The bank will look into the finances of borrowers, but never intervene in their economic affairs," said the official. "Any country can join the bank with a $100,000 share. The idea is to provide them loans at a lower cost than what they would individually get in markets."

The BRICS will also decide if the bank will be based in New Delhi, Shanghai, Johannesburg or Moscow. Brazil will not offer headquarters because of upcoming presidential elections that could delay negotiations, the official said.

Later, the group will have to choose an executive "with experience in the financial sector" to lead the bank in a five-year presidency that will rotate among the founding members.

In five years the bank's capital should double to $100 billion through capitalization from funding members, debt emissions or contributions from new members. The BRICS will hold a minimum of 55 percent of the bank's shares.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/28/14 11:46 AM

South American leaders to attend 6th BRICS Summit
http://thebricspost.com/south-american-leaders-to-attend-6th-brics-summit/
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June 11, 2014
The Brazilian cities of Fortaleza and Brasilia will host the 6th BRICS Summit on the 14th, 15th, and 16th July, an event that will showcase the growing economic clout of the five countries.

The 2014 Summit’s debates will focus on the theme “BRICS – inclusive growth: sustainable solutions”.

As part of a BRICS outreach strategy to emerging economies, a working session will be held on 16th July between the heads of states of BRICS and their counterparts from the governments of South American nations. Argentina had expressed interest in joining the powerful bloc, although BRICS have ruled out expansion of the group for now.

BRICS Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors meeting, Trade Ministers meeting, Development Bank Presidents meeting, Business Forum and a session of the BRICS Business Council will be held on 14th July in Fortaleza.

The $100 billion Contingency Reserve Arrangement (CRA) will be launched at this year’s Summit and final details of the New Development Bank (NBD) will also be unveiled.

In the Durban Summit last year, leaders from Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa had approved a $100 billion fund to combat currency crises.

“The establishment of a self-managed contingent reserve arrangement would have a positive precautionary effect, help BRICS countries forestall short-term liquidity pressures, provide mutual support and further strengthen financial stability,” South African President Jacob Zuma said after the five BRICS leaders met in Durban in March.

BRICS have 43 per cent of the world’s population and total foreign-currency reserves of $4.4 trillion.

Brazilian Ambassador José Alfredo Graça Lima addressing a press conference in Brasilia on Tuesday said the keenly awaited BRICS Bank will finance infrastructure and sustainable development projects.

Developing nations have long complained that the World Bank and International Monetary Fund are failing to address underdevelopment and Western nations have too much say over the management of these institutions.

The BRICS Bank’s start-up capital of $50 billion would eventually be built up to $100 billion. Russia has proposed that each member contributes an equal, 20 per cent share. All the members of BRICS except Brazil has proposed to host the Bank.

Social inclusion and sustainable development will be in focus during this year’s summit.

The 6th Summit will inaugurate the second cycle of BRICS, with each member country hosting one summit each.

The African Union attended last year’s Summit as observers even as BRICS countries try to increase bilateral trade with the continent. Meanwhile, the invitation this year to Latin American heads of states comes as the region tries to match the inspiring growth rates of above 4.3 per cent of 2004-11.

Meanwhile, South American nations are also jointly exploring the creation of a communications system to curtail US spying in the region.

Latin American countries raised a storm of protest after, according to US NSA leaks by former contractor Edward Snowden, the agency spied on an array of nations in the region, including Brazil.

The meet in Brasilia with a congregation of BRICS and South American leaders in attendance could call for an end to mass surveillance like the one carried out the US intelligence agency and gross invasions of privacy.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/28/14 12:24 PM

'US aims to thwart Chinese Silk Road project proclaiming its Asia pivot’

http://rt.com/op-edge/168588-chinese-silk-road-projects/
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June 26, 2014

A Chinese idea of creating two New Silk Roads could be a big boom for a lot of people who live along the Silk Road route, and obviously all the countries at both ends of it, China expert Ann Lee told RT.

RT:What do you think is behind China's move to establish a global financial institution to rival the World Bank?

Ann Lee: China has announced that they want to create two New Silk Roads actually. One that connects Central China all the way to Europe [via] high-speed railway and other means of transportation, and then they would also like to create connections all the way down to Malaysia and possibly India. So this is a lot of infrastructure investment and China has been somewhat frustrated with the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank, in terms of the funds coming out from these entities to support infrastructure projects that will connect these regions. I think China basically decided that if they want anything done here they will just have to fund it themselves and bring along a bunch of partners. That is the prime motivation, which is largely to expand trade and economic influence.

RT: Do you think this planned new institution can really compete with well-established giants like the World Bank, or rival the US-backed Asian Development Bank?

AL: We have seen China establish world-class institutions that are challenging many things in the developed world, such as companies like OneWay and Telecom. I think that this is just a further extension of what China has been doing. China has come from [being] a backwater country 30 years ago and now is the world's second-largest economy, and China is basically showing the world that if there is a will, there is a way. Certainly there is a political will there to continue foreign direct investment outside of China. In order to continue their economic growth domestically, they need further exports, and this could [come from] expanding trade relationships with various commodity countries in Central Asia, and in the Middle East. So this is basically part of that strategic plan.

RT: A number of countries, including several wealthy states in the Middle East have already showed interest in the project. Do you think the project will make Europe and Washington nervous?

AL: I do not think that it will make Western Europe that nervous. China actually has had many conversations with European nations about various trade issues, and I’m sure this has come up with them; they are actually quite open to it. I would say the biggest country that has been resisting this is the US. China had actually tried to appeal for a larger share in IMF voting rights and would like to have a seat on the executive board, and the European nations have basically agreed to China’s request. The only one that objected was the US. So I do not think that China is going to come up against a lot of friction with the European nations, especially if they intend to have the Silk Road end there. Obviously they already had these discussions and I am sure the European nations agreed, otherwise China would not have announced them.


RT: Do you think Washington might try to hamper the initiative?

AL: There is no legal basis to do that, but Washington has already tried to hamper China. One of the Silk Roads that I mentioned is basically along the ocean going down to Malaysia and to South-East Asia and possibly India, and China wanted [their] navy to protect this new Silk Road. But that was thwarted by the US when the US decided to do the Asia pivot to thwart China’s ability to control the waters to protect this new infrastructure development. And this is truly interesting because the US, up until recently, had agreed that those waters belong to China. I looked into a 1972 version of the Encyclopedia Britannica and in that Encyclopedia, which is owned by a US company, it is said that these were China’s territories back then. And now the US is taking a completely different stance on it. So I would say that this is part of Washington’s strategies to try to thwart China from realizing this goal.

RT: What impact could this Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank have on the global economy?

AL: If China is able to succeed in doing this, certainly this will pour hundreds of billions dollars of loans into developing infrastructure, along with joining the Eurasian countries and this could certainly create hundreds of billions, perhaps even trillions of dollars in increased economic growth for the world, given that a lot of the countries along this route have not been necessarily participating in a lot of the growth recently, and that would include countries like Afghanistan, Iran and other Central Asian countries and Middle Eastern countries. So this could be a big boom for a lot of people who live along this Silk Road route and obviously all the countries [at] both ends of it.

The two Silk Roads

The land-based New Silk Road will start in central China and run southwest from Central Asia to northern Iran before turning west through Iraq, Syria, and Turkey toward Europe. There the Silk Road route goes through Bulgaria, Romania, the Czech Republic, and Germany, where it swings north to Rotterdam in the Netherlands and then south to Italy where it meets the Maritime Silk Road.

The Maritime Silk Road will begin in Quanzhou in Fujian province, go through a number of cities before heading south to the Malacca Strait. From Kuala Lumpur, it heads to India and Kenya, then goes north around the Horn of Africa and moves through the Red Sea into the Mediterranean, with a stop in Athens before meeting the land-based Silk Road in Venice. This Xinhua map does not include a stop in Sri Lanka, though they are supposed to be part of the Maritime Silk Road.


The article link above provides an illustration on a map of the two silk roads.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/28/14 12:30 PM

China plans investment bank to break World Bank dominance

June 26, 2014
Quote:
China is moving forward with a plan to create its own version of the World Bank, which will rival institutions that are under the sway of the US and the West. The bank will start with $100 billion in capital.

The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) will extend China’s financial reach and compete not only with the World Bank, but also with the Asian Development Bank, which is heavily dominated by Japan. The $100 billion in capital is double that originally proposed, the Financial Times (FT) reported.

A member of the World Bank, China has less voting power than countries like the US, Japan, and the UK. It is in the ‘Category II’ voting bloc, giving it less of a voice. In the Asian Development Bank, China only holds a 5.5 percent share, compared to America’s 15.7 percent share and Japan’s 15.6 share.

At the International Monetary Fund, China pays a 4 percent quota, whereas the US pays nearly 18 percent, and therefore has more influence within the organization and where loans go.

“China feels it can’t get anything done in the World Bank or the IMF so it wants to set up its own World Bank that it can control itself,” the FT quoted a source close to discussions as saying.

To date, 22 countries have expressed interest in the project, including oil-rich Middle Eastern nations, the US, India, Europe, and even Japan, the FT reported.

“There is a lot of interest from across Asia but China is going to go ahead with this even if nobody else joins it,” the FT source said.

Funding for the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank will mostly be sourced from the People’s Republic of China and be used to pay for infrastructure projects.

The bank’s first project will be a reincarnation of the ancient Silk Road, the vast network of trade routes between China and its regional neighbors. Another proposed project is a railway from Beijing to Baghdad.

The idea for the bank was first floated in October 2013, when China unveiled plans to create the bank. Then it was initially to be funded with $50 billion in capital.

Separately, the BRICS nations plan to have a $100 billion development bank ready by 2015.

Funds will be reserved for emerging market members who are often bypassed by institutions like the IMF and World Bank.

Bank preparations will likely be finalized at the 6th annual BRICS summit on July 14-16, when the five world leaders convene in Brazil.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/09/14 06:23 PM

Russia’s NEW Ambitious Anti-Dollar Move: $150 bln Investment in Baikal-Amur Railroad
http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/20...-amur-railroad/
Quote:
July 8th by Lada Ray

Everyone in the world knows the famous Trans-Siberian Railroad (Trans-Sib), built in the 19th century and connecting Europe through the expanse of Siberia, along the southern shore of Lake Baikal, to the Pacific Ocean and China.

But few abroad know about another, equally famous in Russia, railroad called the simple abbreviation, BAM. BAM means Baikal-Amur Railway, or in Russian: <<word in Russian char.>>

It is also called Baikal–Amur Mainline. “The Baikal–Amur Mainline is a 1,520 mm broad gauge railway line in Russia. Traversing Eastern Siberia and the Russian Far East, the 4,324 km long BAM runs about 610 to 770 km north of and parallel to the Trans-Siberian railway.” Wikipedia

The construction of BAM began 40 years ago today, July 8. It was dubbed the ‘construction of the century.’ Many young enthusiastic people moved to Siberia to build this railroad. The excitement was tremendous, reminiscent of the earlier Soviet industrialization years. The young people formed many of the so-called ‘stroy otriad,’ which means a ‘construction band’ as in ‘a band of brothers and sisters,’ and would go together to the cold Siberia. After they had completed the construction, they would often stay there, start a family and man the railroad they had helped build.

...

In the 19th century, the Russian Empire had plans to build the railroad covering the northern part of Lake Baikal and Eastern Siberia and running parallel to the Trans-Siberian. This was a super-ambitious project as such railroad would go through the wild permafrost lands that no man had ever traversed. The project never materialized.

Only in the second part of the 20th century USSR dared it again. On July 8, 1974 the very first rail was set into Siberian permafrost, and BAM was born. Baikal-Amur Railroad went parallel to the Trans-Siberian, but much further north, by the northern shore of Lake Baikal and further into the Far East, towards the Amur River.

BAM was finished before 1991. At that point, USSR collapsed and the new rulers decided BAM was a waste of time and money. The ambitious project was criticized and maligned. BAM was neglected and its enthusiastic, but aging population was forgotten.

However, the times have changed. On July 8, 2014 Russia has celebrated the 40th anniversary of the beginning of the famous construction by starting a new, even more ambitious, line of the BAM railroad.

Vladimir Putin has announced that Russia will spend over $150 bln in order to add another 7,000 kilometers of rails to BAM by 2030. This will complete the railway coverage of the entire Far East. The money for the new mega-project comes out of the Russian reserve fund (specifically, the Russian Commonwealth Fund), which until recently Russia invested in the US Treasuries.

This effectively signals 3 very important things:

1. Russia’s ambitions are back - this is the signal that the country expects growth and robust development.

2. Russia is confirming its Asia pivot – as I’ve been predicting since February 2014. BAM connects Trans-Siberian and Baikal with the Far East/Pacific Ocean and various points in Asia and Siberia. This includes the resource-rich points of the north, as well as potential hard-to-reach tourist destinations.

3. Russia re-affirms that it will stop the silly practice of financing US dollar (which is a form of economic slavery) and will instead use its hard-earned reserves to finance projects inside the country. Finally – it’s about time!

This is a massive shift, and yet another confirmation that the US dollar is approaching its point of no return!

...

See map of BAM and Trans-Siberian Railroad here.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/09/14 07:04 PM

BRICS Bank to start lending soon: Brazil

http://thebricspost.com/brics-bank-to-start-lending-soon-brazil/#.U7pwpCg1D9s

July 5, 2014, 6:09 am
Quote:
Brazil, which will be hosting the 6th BRICS Summit from the 14th-16th July, has said the much-awaited BRICS bank will start lending within 1-2 years from now.

“The BRICS bank should become operational within 1 or 2 years, depending on the legislative approval process,” said Flávio Soares Damico, Director of the Interregional Mechanisms at the Ministry of External Relations on Friday.

Developing nations have long complained that the World Bank and International Monetary Fund are failing to address underdevelopment and Western nations have too much say over the management of these institutions.

All the BRICS nations apart from Brazil have bid to host the new Bank. The five countries are negotiating to fund the $100 billion development effort equally.

The influence of these emerging economies in the global financial architecture as well as global politics is growing.

The five BRICS countries represent almost three billion people, with a combined nominal GDP of $16 trillion and an estimated $4 trillion in combined foreign reserves.

“We had a big jump in participation of BRICS in global exports, currently reaches more than 17%,” Damico told TV Nacional Brasil.

The BRICS foreign Ministers met in the Hague earlier this year to discuss economic ties as well as the Ukraine crisis. BRICS slammed recent attempts to isolate Russian President Vladimir Putin or to place any restrictions on his participation at the G-20 summit in Australia later this year.

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said the BRICS summit in Brazil should focus on promoting two major projects — the development bank and an emergency reserve — and sending out signals of confidence, unity and cooperation.

Meanwhile, according to Ambassador Graça Lima, Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs at the Ministry of External Relations, one of the goals of the 6th BRICS Summit will highlight the role that the five countries have played in achieving the “Millennium Goals”, “both in their countries as in others, either through economic growth itself, or by means of inclusive social policies implemented by their governments.”

As part of a BRICS outreach strategy to emerging economies, a working session will be held on 16th July between the heads of states of BRICS and their counterparts from the governments of South American nations. Argentina had expressed interest in joining the powerful bloc, although BRICS have ruled out expansion of the group for now.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/12/14 11:40 AM

Putin kicks off Latin America trip by writing off 90% of Cuba's debt .

[video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-q1wCbrEQ#t=111[/video]

Below is a good Summary of Putin current deals in Europe and trip to South America and a little about the BRICS.

Putin Goes to Latin America: US Creates Wars – Russia Extends a Hand of Cooperation

http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/20...of-cooperation/

July 11 by Lada Ray

"Who would you pick as your friend?

The country that bombs into oblivion whoever gets in its way – like #Afghanistan, #Iraq, #Serbia, #Libya, #Vietnam, #Korea, #Japan (with nukes); the country that spies on its friends, such as the newest in a barrage of NSA/CIA scandals of the US spying on Germany; the country that manipulates the whole world into submission with sanctions and threats?

OR: The country that comes in peace and helps develop infrastructure, trade and mutually beneficial relations; the country that doesn’t start wars and works tirelessly to preserve peace for all, despite desperate attempts of some to start WWIII?

...

During the Cuban stop by Putin, Russia will write off 90% of Cuban debt, or $32bln of the total of $35bln. This is huge for a small, poor country like #Cuba. The rest of the debt will be invested in Cuban economy, which will give it a much-needed boost.

After this, Vladimir Putin will visit #Argentina where he’ll sign energy-related and trade expansion deals. Next is #Brazil, where he’ll watch the World Cup final, participate in the #BRICSbank creation, and discuss the information and security deals between Russia and Brazil with President Dilma #Rousseff. Rousseff joins the long list of heads of state-victims of the NSA wiretapping. In Brazil, Putin will also meet with a number of other Latin American heads of state to discuss various energy and investment deals.

Russia on the move!

The worldwide revolt against USA – the empire gone berserk – is mounting. USA, with its idiotic, arrogant, and belligerent policies, has angered pretty much everyone on the face of the Earth, and beyond. USA not only bombs anyone they don’t like into oblivion, it not only tries to strangle economies of countries it wants weakened or intimidated, but it spies even on staunch allies like Germany.

In Europe: #NSA spying on #Merkel and every German, plus the latest two German #CIA spy scandals, are just a tip of the iceberg. US has many more ‘assets’ in #Germany, and Germans are naive if they think they are in the clear. Outraged Germans announced that they will lift a ban on spying on Americans. Can you believe it – they actually had such a ban! Talk about one-way street!

With one stroke USA just destroyed BNP #Paribas, the leading bank of another European ally, #France. All because France refused to destroy its economy and business credibility by forfeiting its scheduled 2 Mistral carriers delivery to Russia (as USA demanded), and the Russia-France banking deal that was in the works for years. US fined BNP Paribas $10bln for violating US sanctions regime against Russia, which essentially bankrupted the bank. In addition, US blocked France’s ability to use the international dollar exchange mechanism. In response to all that, the outraged France Finance Minister announced that his country will be seeking to trade outside of the US dollar, and will do everything to convince its partners in the EU to do the same.

In Russia, Siberia, Asia: Putin just announced that Russia would be investing $150bln in the ambitious construction of the new leg of the Baikal-Amur Railroad (BAM), taking this money off the table for US Treasury investment.

... After US attempted to impose sanctions on Russia, Russia sold off most of its US Treasuries, which prompted the Belgian bond scandal. Pretty much everyone misinterpreted what happened when suddenly small #Belgium “purchased” US Treasuries for the amount that was bigger than its GDP. I solved the mystery and will have an article about that very soon, so stay tuned.

Putin also made a very successful pitch at the Bali Investment Conference, where he invited #Japan and #China to invest in the infrastructure development in #Siberia and the Far East. The interest is HUGE and Russia expects lots of money flowing in from China and Japan via Russia Direct Investment Fund.

And back to Europe. South Stream : Russia just signed a deal with #Austria regarding the #SouthStream gas pipeline construction. #Hungary and #Italy reconfirmed their commitment to South Stream. This comes on the heals of “uncle” #McCain twisting poor #Bulgaria’s arm to say ‘no’ to South Stream going through Bulgarian territory, thus shooting itself in the foot. More about that here: ‘Gave Americans a Blow Job For Nothing?’ Polish FM Sikorski Leaked Tape Scandal.

But wait, seeing that everyone’s signing up for South Stream, Bulgaria has already managed to do a 180 degree flip! Now Bulgaria swears that they didn’t mean they didn’t want South Stream – turns out they meant they needed to consult with the EU to make sure everything was legal. And this is precisely why they needed to talk to US senator and the world’s biggest Russia-hater McCain, undoubtedly because he is the best expert on EU policy. Grotesque? Pitiful? All the above!

Russian FM #Lavrov just met with his counterpart in #Slovenia to sign the South Stream deal. Slovenian FM admitted that US put pressure on Slovenia not to sign the South Stream deal. US ambassador to Ljubljana even pressured Slovenian leadership not to receive Lavrov at all! This is the first admission of US pressure by a EU official. Despite that, #Slovenia signed up for South Stream. The neighboring #Serbia has already signed the 2.1 bln euro deal for building South Stream on its territory.

South Stream gas pipeline, designed to bypass #Ukraine, will take the capacity to blackmail Russia and EU away from the Kiev US stooges. It will increase the diversification and security of gas transit to Europe.

Gas transit/Russia/Ukraine Prediction: I said this before and I will reiterate: Russia will eventually phase out Ukraine as a transit artery for Russian gas to Europe. Ukraine proved to be an extremely unreliable transit country, prone to the outside manipulation, violence and outright theft. It will be a matter of time. After Ukraine no longer is a meaningful transit country, US/Kiev/EU will not have as much capacity to blackmail Russia on the gas front. At that point Ukraine will become uninteresting to the US and it will be simply abandoned like a used-up lemon. What the West is trying to achieve before they abandon Ukraine is destroy its economy. They are partially succeeding. How far they will get in the Ukraine economy destruction depends on how quickly Ukrainians wake up to the fact that they are being raped.

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Vladimir Putin’s trip to Latin America is very meaningful. He will meet with different leaders to discuss bilateral trade outside of the dollar system; creation and financing of the BRICS Bank to be juxtaposed to the rotten #IMF and World Bank system; energy and security projects; oil and gas field development.

To say that Putin’s visit to Latin America has to do with the blatant US meddling in Ukraine, is to say nothing. Cubans, Venezuelans, Argentinians, Bolivians and other Latin Americans are so fed up with the US always IMPOSING something on them that they had been begging Russia for years to have tighter ties with them. Russia finally decided to take decisive steps to properly diversify its huge currency reserves away from the dying dollar. Russian currency reserves are around $450-500 bln. This is the third largest currency reserve in the world.

Instead of buying worthless US dollars or euros, investing these in the infrastructure projects inside the country, as well as in various infrastructure, development and natural resource projects in Latin America, Europe and Asia is THE WISE thing to do.

Russia is also considering reviving its military bases in Cuba, and that’s 100 miles from the US shore. Russia abandoned her bases pretty much everywhere in the world after Gorbachev came to power, but the US shameless interference in Ukraine and persistent attempts to drag #Georgia, #Moldova, and now Ukraine, into #NATO prompt Russia to rebuild her defenses against the super-bully of the world.

I am looking forward to seeing how Americans will enjoy having Russian military bases within 100 miles of their shores. Rest assured that Cuba isn’t the only country that would love to host Russian bases: #Venezuela, Argentina, #Bolivia and #Nicaragua all have issued a standing invitation.


Predictions

I - Russia is giving an example of how to conduct her global affairs peacefully and cooperatively. But I seriously wouldn’t recommend the US and EU to continue stepping on Russia’s toes. The result is always the same: every aggression against Russia turns into a humiliating defeat and long-term disaster for the aggressor (think German aggression in 1941; think Napoleon aggression in 1812). I have to say the US is legendary for its survival instinct. This is precisely why they will never dare attack Russia directly. This is precisely why they always use proxies to do the dirty job for them. But someone who betrayed once, will betray again. US proxies eventually turn against them: think US-trained/financed Al-Qaeda & Taliban. And this is what will eventually happen with Ukraine and various US allies in the EU.

II - Expect Russia to create a new investment and business climate both inside the country and abroad, which will eventually result in a global shift of how things are done internationally. China is also working on same. COOPERATION, as opposed to confrontaion, is the word that comes to mind.

#BRICS will slowly but surely fully develop the BRICS Bank, which will create a much more humane and forward-looking alternative to the existing rotten IMF/World Bank system.

The crumbling US dollar system will continue being undermined both inside and out by the idiotic actions of the US, and by the fed-up population of our planet that is gradually rebelling against the dollar slavery.

III - All of the above mega deals and projects will be financed outside of the dollar. This effectively means that less and less money will be fed to the US Treasuries, thus undermining the fake financial backbone of the US empire. These moves will gradually take away the US dollar status as reserve currency."


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/12/14 12:14 PM

France lashes out against US dollar, calls for ‘rebalancing’ of world currencies

http://rt.com/business/170864-france-balance-dollar-bnp/

July 07, 2014

"The French government wants to break the monopoly the dollar has on international transactions after the country’s largest bank, BNP Paribas, was slapped with a record $9 billion fine and a 1-year dollar trading ban.

Michel Sapin, the French finance minister, called for a “rebalancing” of the currencies used for global payments, saying the BNP Paribas case should “make us realize the necessity of using a variety of currencies” the Financial Times reports.

“We [Europeans] are selling to ourselves in dollars, for instance when we sell planes. Is that necessary? I don’t think so. I think a rebalancing is possible and necessary, not just regarding the euro, but also for the big currencies of the emerging countries, which account for more and more of global trade,” the finance minister told the FT at a conference over the weekend.

France wants to bring the euro to greater prominence in international trade. Sapin said he would raise the idea on Monday when he meets in Brussels with eurozone finance ministers.

BNP was punished for helping counties like Iran, Sudan, and Cuba process $30 billion in transactions which are illegal under US law, since they violate US sanctions. Starting on January 1, 2015, the bank will not be able to carry out dollar-based transactions for one year.

The French government has called the fine and 1-year ban unreasonable and unfair, as it blocks the country’s largest bank from handling dollars, which is the dominant currency in global trade. Nearly 90 percent of all deals in the $5 trillion a day foreign exchange market includes the US dollar.

Heavy-handed sanctions from the US and Europe have forced countries to also look towards other currency options. Russia, for example, is actively working to de-dollarize, and is starting to use the Chinese yuan and other Asian currencies in trading.

Dollars dominate most oil and gas pricing, another cycle France hopes to break.

Christophe de Margerie, the CEO of Total, France’s largest company, says other currencies can be used in oil purchases, even if the benchmark is left in dollars.

“The price of a barrel of oil is quoted in dollars,” de Margerie said. “A refinery can take that price and using the euro-dollar exchange rate on any given day, agree to make the payment in euro.”

The US and OPEC countries have traded oil exclusively in US dollars since 1971."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/12/14 12:29 PM

My comments: We are seeing the countries dissociating themselves with Mystery Babylon. France and Germany were major allies of Mystery Babylon and seeing them uniting with the "Kings of the Easts" shows that the EU will shortly collapse. Re 16:12 . And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

It was the King of the East that overthrew Old Babylon. Rev 16 shows that the Type will repeat again. Russia and China are the Kings of the East of today currently overthrowing Mystery Babylon.

US Set To Alienate Angry Germany Next, As Crackdown Shifts From BNP To Commerzbank, Deutsche Bank Tuesday,

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/08/2014

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-08...k-deutsche-bank

"As we reported over the weekend in "By "Punishing" France, The US Just Accelerated The Demise Of The Dollar", following the record $9 billion fine against French BNP, the outcry has been fast and furious, with virtually everyone in the local chain of command, from Total CEO to the head of the Bank of France (and ECB member) Christian Noyer, all saying that the US is now clearly abusing the reserve power of the dollar and it is time to move away from a dollar-based reserve currency (how that jives with concurrent French demands for a lower EUR is a different, incomprehensible matter entirely).

It appears that having pushed France forcefully into the Russia-China Eurasian, and anti-US camp, the US will now do the same with Germany. Because after infuriating the German population by first refusing to return their gold contained (the legend goes) at the New York Fed, and then with scandal after spying scandal, most recently involving the CIA directly soliciting a German double agent, now the time has come to "punish" Germany's largest banks for the same kind of money laundering that BNP was engaged in. As the NYT and Reuters report, the time has come to shift away from the BNP scandal and focus on what will soon be the Commerzbank and Deutsche Bank fallout.


According to the NYT, the money laundering crackdown is "bound for another European financial center: Germany. State and federal authorities have begun settlement talks with Commerzbank, Germany’s second-largest lender, over the bank’s dealings with Iran and other countries blacklisted by the United States, according to people briefed on the matter. The bank, which is suspected of transferring money through its American operations on behalf of companies in Iran and Sudan, could strike a settlement deal with the state and federal authorities as soon as this summer, said the people briefed on the matter, who were not authorized to speak publicly.


The contours of a settlement, which the authorities have only begun to sketch out, are expected to include at least $500 million in penalties for Commerzbank, the people added. Although prosecutors were still weighing punishments, the people briefed on the matter said that the bank would most likely face a so-called deferred prosecution agreement, which would suspend criminal charges in exchange for the financial penalty and other concessions.

It's not just Commerzbank - a settlement with the smaller bank will merely pave the way for the punishment of the biggest bank of all (in terms of groiss derivative notional held): Deutsche Bank.


A potential deal with Commerzbank — which is expected to pave the way for a separate settlement with Deutsche Bank, Germany’s largest bank — would pale in comparison to the case announced last week against France’s biggest bank, BNP Paribas. The French bank agreed to pay a record $8.9 billion penalty and plead guilty to criminal charges for processing transactions on behalf of Sudan and other countries that America has hit with sanctions, a rare criminal action against a financial giant.

As NYT adds, correctly, "The Commerzbank investigation features an added twist: The bank is 17 percent owned by the German government. It is unclear whether — as in the BNP case, which led French authorities to intervene on the bank’s behalf — the settlement talks could inflame diplomatic tensions between Washington and Berlin."

Of course, since this is the ridiculous "scorched earth" diplomatic policy, if one may call it that, of the Obama administration, nobody is surprised any more that the US president is alienating one former ally after another.

As we first observed a few weeks ago when we revealed JPM's involvement in all of this money laundering, "some critics have questioned why American authorities have set their eye on European banks. The answer, authorities say, is that American banks by and large avoided processing transactions for Iran and Sudan. But American banks are not immune from touching dirty money. Citigroup’s Banamex unit is under investigation for processing money linked to a drug cartel. And in January, JPMorgan Chase reached a roughly $2 billion deal with the authorities over ignoring signs of the Ponzi scheme orchestrated by Bernard L. Madoff, who held accounts at the bank for over two decades."

Not only that but as we wrote over the weekend, the bank that was instrumental in facilitating BNP's money laundering for nearly a decade was none other than JPM. One wonders if JPM also "unwittingly" was the bank that made German money laundering around the globe possible. Did we mention unwittingly?

Still, while one can debate the idiocy of US foreign policy, eager to push European allies into the willing hands of Russia and China at the worst possible moment, when regional and civil wars and conflicts are suddenly breaking out across all key geopolitical hotspots, one wonders: in the case of BNP, the "fine" was as a result of French unwillingness to halt the Russian amphibious warship deal despite US demands. So it would be curious just what the US blackmail against German banks is for: one really does wonder just what punishment Angela Merkel deserves behind the scenes in the eyes of John Kerry et clueless al, to punish her and Germany so blatantly for the entire world to see.

One thing is clear: if the US thinks that Germany will continue to consider America its BFF and make zero contingency plans for when the alliance with the US finally crashes and burns, it will be truly surprised when the Eurasian alliance of Russia and China finally announces its final, all."
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/14/14 05:29 PM

Here's something which may fit with you. The Black Budget:
http://thefutureofourgeneration.blogspot.com/2010/08/d-u-m-b-s-deep-underground-military.html
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/14/14 11:50 PM

Originally Posted By: kland


Tx for sharing. Yes I've heard about that and even saw pictures of those huge monster machines that makes those underground tunnels. I don't know if its true as there's much disinformation around but I wouldn't be surprise it is. As far as I heard, these are completed and ready to be inhabitated. Too bad they won't get to live there and most likely will end up living at the FEMA camps.

The Elite's plans to hide there(or elsewhere) after they succeeded to get the world into a Worldwide nuclear war to destroy 90% of the population. But their plan has been gradually known this past decade or so to the leaders of the countries(over 140) and have been withdrawing their support and not biting anymore to Mystery Babylon's false flag war propaganda and provocations.

Seeing France and Germany dissociating themselves with Mystery Babylon is pretty major exciting news. Now only a handful of European countries and Canada are next to follow. Afterwards the US will be all alone with the Elites. Can't have much of a one world Order with one country.

It's really over for Mystery Babylon as no one is being controled by them anymore as their little secret of operating whithin the countries shaddow governments and other manipulations are not secret anymore.

We'll soon see more progress and what the Lord will work out next.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/15/14 04:31 AM

Originally Posted By: kland

biglaugh

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/16/14 06:37 PM

Century of Enslavement: The History of The Federal Reserve

Here's an excellent Corbett Video about the Federal Reserve in two parts: 1. The History of the Federal Reserve and 2. How does the Scam work



Also a transcript of the video is provided at his site for those who want to revisit the details.

http://www.corbettreport.com/federalreserve/

Understanding the Federal Reserve is key to understanding how they(Mystery Babylon) have succeeded to enslave the whole world. Them printing, lending, and controling the currencies of the world via the Federal Reserve is the life stream of Mystery Babylon's blood. Notice how the word "currency" adjectif is current like a water current.

Quote:
currency (n.)
1650s, "condition of flowing," from Latin currens, present participle of currere "to run" (see current (adj.)); the sense of a flow or course extended 1699 (by John Locke) to "circulation of money."


Old Babylon was concquered by Cyrus the King of Persia. Isaiah prophesied 200 years before hand the way in which Babylon was captured. Isaiah 44:27 says,

27 “It is I who says to the depth of the sea, ‘Be dried up!’ And I will make your rivers dry.”

Originally Posted By: Stephen Jones
"Cyrus diverted the waters from the River Euphrates, which flowed through the city, so that his troops could march into the city. The Babylonian army was not expecting this, so they were having a party within the thick walls of the city. The gates of the city leading to the river were left unlocked. The army of the Medes and Persians walked in and took the city intact.

Herodotus, the Father of History, told the story in Book 1 of The Histories, Par. 191, saying,

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“The siege dragged on, no progress was made, and Cyrus was beginning to despair of success. Then somebody suggested, or he himself thought up the following plan… Then taking with him all his non-combatant troops, he withdrew to the spot where Nitocris had excavated the lake (which was then a marsh) and in this way [reopening the canal] so greatly reduced the depth of water in the actual bed of the river that it became fordable, and the Persian army, which had been left at Babylon for the purpose, entered the river, now only deep enough to reach about the middle of a man’s thigh, and, making their way along it, got into the town….

“The Babylonians themselves say that owing to the great size of the city, the outskirts were captured without the people in the centre knowing anything about it; there was a festival going on, and they continued to dance and enjoy themselves, until they learned the news the hard way. That, then, is the story of the first capture of Babylon.”


The “festival” that night is described in the early verses of Daniel 5, telling us how the hand of God wrote on the wall the ominous prophecy of Babylon’s fall while the king and his government officials were partying.

Thus, Isaiah’s prophecy of drying up the river was quite literally fulfilled.
"


The Lord is telling us before hand what He will do with Mystery Babylon today by establishing Old Babylon's destruction as a TYPE of the things to come.

Revelation 16 tells us that this re-occurence of the drying up of the river of Euphrate of Mystery Babylon will be done to prepare the way for the Kings of the East.

AV Re 16:12 . And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

Mystery Babylon life stream today is their control of the currencies of the world via the Federal Reserve; thus it is the current of the currencies that will be "dried up" from Mystery Babylon today to prepare the way for the Kings of the East (China and Russia) to overthrow them(Mystery Babylon).

The BRICS new Banking system will provide a new current(currencies) for the primary goal to by-pass the Federal Reserve Global Banking system via the US-Petro-Dollars current.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/16/14 07:01 PM

Here's another recent article where many of the EU's countries are making a firm stand to not go along with Mystery's Babylon sanctions policy against Russia. The European's are dissociating themselves from Mystery Babylon controling power.

"France, Germany, Luxembourg, Austria, Bulgaria, Greece, Cyprus, Slovenia, and Italy ... announced they would block measures aimed at imposing economic sanctions against Russia"

Jul 16, 2014
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/16/371496/eu-to-discuss-more-russia-sanctions/
Quote:
EU leaders to discuss new sanctions against Russia

European Union (EU) leaders are expected to discuss new sanctions against Russia over the crisis in Ukraine.

An EU meeting is expected to be held on Wednesday in the Belgian capital, Brussels.

According to a diplomatic source, it was “looking very possible” that the EU would agree to the imposition of more sanctions against Moscow.

However, on July 15, France, Germany, Luxembourg, Austria, Bulgaria, Greece, Cyprus, Slovenia, and Italy, which holds the EU presidency, announced they would block measures aimed at imposing economic sanctions against Russia during the summit on Wednesday.

It is not known which Russian companies would be targeted. The sanctions are not expected to hit broad sectors of the country’s economy, though.

Washington has been pressuring European leaders to impose limited financial sanctions and arms sale restrictions on Russia.

On July 12, the EU imposed sanctions on the prime minister of the self-declared Donetsk People’s Republic, Alexander Borodai, and his counterpart in Lugansk, Marat Bashirov.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has accused Russian President Vladimir Putin of instigating the conflict in his country.

Ukraine’s mainly Russian-speaking eastern parts have witnessed deadly clashes between pro-Russia protesters and the Ukrainian army since mid-April. In May, Ukraine’s eastern regions of Donetsk and Lugansk held local referendums, in which their residents voted overwhelmingly in favor of independence from Ukraine, triggering more violence.

Hundreds of people have been killed in the ongoing military campaign in Ukraine, which has also forced tens of thousands to escape to Russia, with the majority arriving to the Russian Rostov region.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/17/14 12:29 AM

Wow, this took me by surprise. This is quite a testimony by Alan Greenspan, a computer geek and two Nobel Prize winner in the financial sector who worked for the Federal Reserve; yet secretly conspired to restore the country back to the gold standard behind the scene. A must read!

Greenspan's Golden Testimony

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/230.cfm?awt_l=93n8U&awt_m=3gqwo_m0dCAZ85B

"Alan Greenspan testified before the Angelides Commission about the causes of the financial crisis.

...

CHAIRMAN: Dr. Greenspan, please raise your right hand. Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God?

GREENSPAN: I do.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: Thank you for testifying. It will be nice to hear the truth come from your lips after all these years, and I'm sure you feel relieved that you will finally be able to speak freely.

GREENSPAN: I have very much looked forward to this.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: I'm going to get right to the guts of this hearing if you don't mind. Throughout the first part of your life you were the most avid gold bug on the planet but in the mid 1980's you sold out to the banking cabal and became gold's biggest enemy...why did you do it?

GREENSPAN: I didn't. I have always been a die hard advocate of using gold as money and I continue to be so today.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: But you worked for the evil Federal Reserve Bank. You were the king of fiat money which is the opposite of gold...the only real money.

GREENSPAN: Yes. I did work for the Federal Reserve bank but only at the calling of my country. You see, back in the 1960's and 1970's the United States of America was in the throws of a secret take over by a cabal of banking and industrial interests...and they were winning the battle. I was tasked with taking back the monetary system of our nation.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: That's about as far fetched a claim as I have ever heard.

GREENSPAN: Is it really? Ask yourself a question: Who is the person most responsible for the crisis we are in today? If you are thinking it's me... YOU ARE RIGHT! And what do you think will be the final outcome of the monetary crisis? I'll tell you what the outcome is...the total destruction of all debt based monetary assets. Everyone will lose everything held by a 3rd party in a blink of an eye and we will return to our Constitutional Gold Standard. How's that for a gold bug!

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: What?! You think this is a good thing?

GREENSPAN: Remember where we started. Our country was on the brink of losing everything to the "Bad Guys". They had just taken down Kennedy, they had control of the media, the military, the intelligence agencies and they had control of the gold and silver. Everyone was scared to death of the Bad Guys then I came along with a plan to better the world at the same time as I took down the Bad Guys.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: What plan was this?

GREENSPAN: It was based off two Nobel Prize winning economic theories developed in the 1960's called "The Golden Rule" theory and "On The Road to The Golden Age" theory which basically said that the best way to return to the gold standard was to squeeze out all the benefits of a fiat money system while people still accepted it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule_savings_rate

http://www.springerlink.com/content/g175216710577801/

The way I got involved was that I devised a way to control the prices of commodities by using computer trading programs that I wrote in the 1960's. Yep, I was the biggest computer geek in the world before computer geeks turned cool. That was my plan. Use my computer programs to rig the markets far longer than anyone thought possible controlling the prices of almost everything to disguise the fact that we were running the printing presses at full speed the whole time.

My childhood friend John Kemeny, the inventor of the computer language BASIC, helped me write the early programs. My mentor and friend, the ex Fed Chairman Arthur Burns, saw the potential of my plan and helped get me get appointed as the head of the Council of Economic Advisers for President Ford.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: But wait. Aren't we worse off today than we've ever been? Just look around you...everything is falling apart!

GREENSPAN: Well, that's true but that was always the end game. We'd abuse the currency, run up massive debt, get the whole world to buy into the concept of "free money" and then pull the plug on it all making people face the hard, cold reality that there is no free lunch.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: So you are saying we can't have a stable unbacked fiat monetary system?

GREENSPAN: Without total control of commodity prices all unbacked fiat currencies will fail. A Gold based monetary system, out of the control of man, has always been the answer in an open and free market. History has shown that when human beings control the supply of money they always destroy it's value. Without exception. It is the ultimate power over the People...How fast we forgot that famous quote from the dark lord who attacked our young nation:

"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes its laws." - Mayer Amschel Rothschild


COMMISSIONER ROOTA: So we are at that point where we pull the plug on the unbacked fiat money system? Is this what you had planned all along?

GREENSPAN: Well, it didn't go exactly as planned. Things got sticky when President Reagan left office. The Bad Guys run by Bush Sr. were given full control of the market rigging operations and we all had to go into hiding. Clinton, Bush II and Obama were all controlled by the same powerful demons that stole my rigging programs. Luckily, I figured out a way to gain control back. I just had to give them plenty of rope to hang themselves by their own greed...hence the deregulation of derivatives and removal of almost all regulatory control.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: So you did it all on purpose knowing the Bad Guys would indulge to the point where it all collapsed?

GREENSPAN: Yep, and I almost got them in 2008 but they were able to delay their final destruction but we are now at the point Humpty Dumpty sings "Ashes to Ashes we all fall down!" This will end the 100 year battle at last.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: I can't see the Bad Guys losing anything. They never lose.

GREENSPAN: THEY ALREADY HAVE! Can't you see it? The derivative bubble has blown and the losses are floating around in the back rooms and attics hidden by shady accounting. What will transpire is the same thing that has happened to over 2,000 unbacked fiat currencies in our past...they will implode. This does not only include paper money but EVERYTHING WE THINK HAS VALUE BUT ACTUALLY IS NOT REAL. Everything means checking, savings, 401k's, IRA's, Gov't Bonds, money market funds, stocks, bonds, pensions...EVERYTHING MADE OF DEBT BASED PAPER OR EVEN ELECTRONIC BITS!

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: And you think this is a good thing?

GREENSPAN: You tell me. Look around at what is killing our countries, our citizens, our businesses...IT'S DEBT! Fiat Debt created out of thin air by the banking cabal for so long that we don't remember what it's like to have money that has intrinsic value...THAT IS NOT SOMEBODY'S DEBT BUT YOUR ASSET!

The coming crash will not only erase all paper/electronic wealth but it will also erase all debt. Voila...no more problems!

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: But where does that leave us...we'll have nothing!

GREENSPAN: Aaah... but that's where you are blinded by years of fiat monetary abuse. Wealth is all around us. It is in the soil of our bountiful country, it is in the work ethic of our strong people, it is in the brilliance of our esteemed professors and it is in the wonderful spirit of the human soul. We are a wealthy nation it's just that the wealth has been stolen by the few at the expense of the many. Once fiat wealth disappears it will correct that great wrong of disproportionate wealth distribution.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: But we'll still have no money. Are you suggesting we re-allocate money to everyone in the country? How is that possible?

GREENSPAN: I have already thought of that. We are going to need to start again with a new money. We will allocate the new money by how much you have invested into the system up to this point. Your hard work has been carefully tracked over the years through your SOCIAL SECURITY TAXES! And you thought those measly Social Security payments wouldn't matter. It was always the plan to reallocate through what you've paid into social security. That solution will also fix one of my first challenges when I began this journey back in the early 1970's...to FIX Social Security! TAA-DAA...fixed!

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: Is that why Social Security taxes are so low for the rich? So there won't be any more ultra rich folks after the crash?

GREENSPAN: Yes. It's time to start fresh. We will begin with a nation full of rich people because no one will have too much and no one will have too little...at least to start with. The free markets will take over in time and those who are smarter, faster, better than others will surely begin to accumulate more of the wealth over time. It is the nature of Liberty.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: I am truly blown away and yet it really makes me feel like there might be a way out of our mess! How can I be sure this is the TRUTH as you claim.

GREENSPAN: You will see in time. But if you want some hints into the reality of what is going on follow the folks over at GATA. They are on the front lines of the gold wars and they are working with us.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: I LOVE GATA! But why should I believe that YOU were on our side all along?

GREENSPAN: Well, I guess it won't hurt to let you peak behind the curtain a bit. Follow this link and read what has been discovered so far:

http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/101.cfm

It's the story of you Roota! I hope I did you proud and in the end you can forgive me for lying to you all these years.

COMMISSIONER ROOTA: I hope so too, Alan. I hope so too.
"
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/18/14 06:22 PM

Sorry, but this reads like The Onion. If I had more interest, I would search more. But past experience has shown exposure to be unsatisfying....and ignored.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/19/14 06:14 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Sorry, but this reads like The Onion. If I had more interest, I would search more. But past experience has shown exposure to be unsatisfying....and ignored.

I'm assuming you are referring to Alan Greenspan's testimony. Personally, I still don't know what to think about it. It could be truth or only some dis-info. Time will tell.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/21/14 05:37 PM

I was wanting to know why it was called, "roadtoroota" because it makes me think of a septic service. I found this:
Quote:
"ROOTA" or "rootA" was one of the key programming concepts in financial computing using the computer programming language called "BASIC" in the 1960's.
I did not know BASIC was used in financial computing, but back then, that may have been one of the few languages available. It wasn't very nice as far as modularizing goes. But I never found the concept of "root A" within it. It was more of a string of commands with some GOTOs thrown in. Spaghetti code. Guess I must have missed one of the key programming concepts in it... Unless what they are talking about is a financial concept, in which case, BASIC, or any other language used would have no relevance...
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/31/14 04:00 PM

The Coming Return of the Real USDollar

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/30/the-coming-return-of-the-real-usdollar/

by *Lee Wanta (Edited by Preston James, Ph.D.)

"
The Federal Reserve System (aka the “Fed”), a bank franchisee of the City of London private Zionist Bankers, is now cornered and in a predicament with no simple solution possible.

It is like the tree trimmer cutting off the limb he is standing on or the painter painting himself into a corner with no way out.

This impasse has no apparent solution for these Private Federal Reserve “Officials” and the real World Zionist Powers behind them (whom they serve).

The Federal Reserve System has operated as an Unregulated Checkbook for an out of control, out of touch, bought-off Congress that takes its marching orders from Israeli espionage fronts and wealthy lobbying groups inside America like AIPAC.


These Israel Espionage Fronts inside America are controlled by the World Zionists operating out of the City of London Financial District, a separate country with its own Police Force and Ambassadors.

Normally any governmental spending body such as Congress would be limited by the amount of taxes collected, and would have to balance its books like any normal family. However, because the Federal reserve System issues as much money as Congress want to borrow, there have been no real spending limits.

Quote:
The alleged debt owed by Americans (with interest accruing constantly) to this private Federal Reserve System is now estimated to have exceeded 14 trillions USDollars, or approximately five times the current annual Congressional Budget, a staggering total, and approximately one year of America’s Gross National Product.


And the most startling thing about this supposed “National Debt” is that is clearly Illegal, Unconstitutional, and actually imaginary. Yes, that’s right, Americans cannot be legally charged interest or principal for using their own money.

How did this illegal Ponzi scheme ever develop and why would our Congress allow such a fraud to be perpetrated?

Our Founding Fathers intended the USG to have a very limited role and to be financed from Excise and import taxes, never a personal income tax. There was a secret Coup d’ etat in 1913 when the City of London Secret Agents were able to get their illegal, Unconstitutional Federal reserve Act passed in the U.S. Congress with no quorum present on a Friday night before Christmas.(1)

Numerous Members of Congress were influenced, bribed and even coerced to go along with this intended legislation being covertly promoted by the City of London Rothschild Zionist private Central bankers.

The rest is history and is a secret most sordid one at that. The Federal Reserve Board run by the individual Banking Families who own the stock is a closely guarded secret. This Board has no USG oversight and is beyond the current reach of the USG as long as Congress, the Judiciary and the Administration refuses to enforce the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights or the Rule of Law.

Consequently the the City of London Zionist Bankers have been able to remotely control the American Economy by determining monetary policy and setting interest rates and determining how much money is issued. This unregulated issuance of money and the providing of it to greedy Members of Congress to distribute to their campaign sponsors and “special friends” through special interest legislation has resulted in a complete disconnect between Congressional Spending and any true financial reality.

Quote:
It is now generally recognized by Political Insiders that immense kickbacks are provided in very creative ways to those that vote for these “Special Interest,Corporate Welfare” legislation. These kickbacks are often disguised as very liberal honorariums for short meaningless speech appearances, large PAC campaign donations, special all-paid junkets, lucrative revolving-door jobs and consultancies, and even special deposits to offshore accounts.


And beside the so-called “Money” issued (FIAT money issued and put into circulation and use by the Federal Reserve System), is not real money at all, but consists of Debt-based FIAT monetary Notes which USG laws have mandated must be accepted as legal tender for all debts inside America. yes, technically a Note is a loan for which the Principal and the Interest must be repaid. Thus all the Interest and Principal paid back to the Federal Reserve System is truly “Money for Nothing.”


A very crafty trick.

This is truly a very crafty trick performed by the private Central Bankers to acquire the wealth of the users of their FIAT debt-note money. American used to have real money issued that was redeemable in Gold and Silver.

They were called USDollars and were either Gold Certificates or Silver Certificates. But all that changed when President Nixon changed the USDollar to have no real backing by Gold and Silver anymore as he negotiated an international agreement for the USDollar to become the US Petro Dollar and be used for all crude Oil Transactions.


Making money from Nothing.

What this means now in practical terms that when the Federal Reserve System creates “Money” and puts it into circulation and use, it retains ownership of the Principal and expects it to be repaid with Interest which constantly accrues. This is what the so-called National Debt consists of and is clearly financial fraud since FIAT/fake currency is not real money and is not allowed to masqueraded as such by the US Constitution. Calling issued debt-notes money is the biggest trick ever perpetrated against the American public and perhaps the greatest financial fraud in history against the American Citizen. Certainly Madoff should be proud of his Federal Reserve System Associates and is a “chip off the old block” so to say.


World’s largest Ponzi Scheme.

The Federal Reserve System has become the World’s greatest Ponzi Scheme because it has issued an absurd amount of money to Congress to spend like drunken sailors all over the World. In fact so many American debt-notes aka “US Petro Dollars” have been spent and disbursed all over the world that experts now believe that eventually, if not sooner than later, the value of the US Petro Dollar will easily descend to almost nothing.

This descent to minimal value will likely be greatly accelerated when the BRICS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BANK comes on line in the near future. The US Petro Dollar has functioned as the World’s Reserve Currency ever since an arrangement was negotiated by President Richard Nixon who took America off the Gold Standard at that time. But once the BRICS System goes live, many economic experts expect the Worldwide USDollar Derivative System, the largest Ponzi scheme in History, to collapse like a house of cards. Once this happens there is likely to be a catastrophic collapse in the vale of the USDollar and it will become unlinked to oil sales and will no longer be the World’s Reserve Currency.


Now for the really bad news.

As of right now there are supposedly 139 nations that have signed onto the BRICS System, either by actually signing the Agreement or sending a Letter of Intent to do so. This now includes Germany, France, Australia and picture this, even the UK.

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It is no secret that the BRICS System originated in the imagination of the leaders of Russia, China and Brazil who felt that they had been used and abused due to the USD being used against them.

Much of the World now feels that America has used the US Petro Dollar as a means to abuse them economically and politically and want to completely detach all their trade from it and eliminate the great advantage American economy has had from their debt-notes being accepted as the World’s Reserve Currency.


Perhaps the USG view the BRICS phenomena as the pet-project of President Putin and the Russian Federation and is now attempting to start a New Cold War despite the fact that the Soviet Union and Russian Bolshevism no longer exists in the Russian Federation, only in the City of London where it originated, and in Israel, the sole surviving nation-state remnant of Russian Bolshevism.


How did this illegal, Unconstitutional Federal Reserve System which claims to be a Bank and a Cash Reserve, when it is neither, get themselves and America into this current impasse and unresolvable debacle in the first place?

This was all accomplished through political intrigue and covert operations run by the City of London Rothschild run Zionist Central bankers. it was also accomplished by a partnership between Big Oil run by the World Zionists and the private Federal reserve System. Here is the part that is hard for most to fathom. The Zionist controlled Big Oil companies have used America’s debt-note system as political and financial cover to enslave the world and make many millions complete debt-slaves to the City of London Bankers and their stateside franchisee the Federal Reserve System.


Accountability is perhaps right around the corner.

The Federal Reserve System’s proxy hold on the World is now facing a sudden catastrophic end. Those who created and still run this huge Ponzi scheme and fraud against the American people and the World, are going to fall flat on their faces and be fully exposed. they are likely to then be held accountable for this immense financial fraud and theft of the ages upon America and the World.

Unless……….they create some immediate catastrophic cover and use this as a means to activate their World Zionist secret police occupation force DHS inside America.


Serious options for the Bankster Kingpins to be able to head-off a very serious problem of impending and complete accountability to the public they have asset stripped of most of their wealth, jobs and futures.

If the US Petro Dollar collapses and a catastrophic Global reset occurs as is expected (unless somehow mitigated), those bankers responsible will be fingered and held accountable one way or another unless they do something major.

Their options include starting a nuclear WW3 with the Russian Federation and/or China, instituting a major epidemic that kills many millions inside America, or starting a new American Civil War between their Zionist Occupation force Homeland Security (DHS) and the American Gun Owners, hunters, Veterans, Patriots and folks who have “woken up” to the USG scam and major illegal power grab since 1913 and the USG Assassination of JFK.

The USG is now working hard to start a major war with Putin and the Russian Federation over Crimea using Cutout Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland. She has admitted that the USG has already funneled 5 Billion USD to the Ukraine Leaders, and many experts view this as money to support Terrorist actions and attacks against Pro-Russian Federation people living in the Ukraine, especially Crimea.


Putin, the consummate Statesman, doesn’t show his cards, but perhaps holds a full hand.

So far, Putin has shown himself to be a true Statesman and has avoided the USG provocations which are clearly dictated by the City of London World Zionists. It should be pointed out that it is probably not a wise choice to continue these provocations unless the USG truly wants a nuclear WW3, since experts who know Putin personally, claim that he will become a very resourceful and competent opponent in any forced war effort against the Russian Federation.

So far there appears to be an unwillingness in the High Command of the US Military to engage in any Nuclear WW3 with the Russian Federation. It such is ordered I suspect there will be stalling and recommendations further analysis and space based satellite Intel must be reviewed carefully.

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Avoidance of accountability for this intergenerational group of Zionists that seized America in a secret Coup d’ etat in 1913 with the passage of the illegal, Unconstitutional Federal Reserve Act is dependent on the Zionists getting complete control over America, disarming all Americans, and instituting of martial law using their Secret Police Occupation Army inside America, Homeland Security (DHS).


If they fail in this, basically its over for them and their evil spell on America will be forever broken and millions will demand justice. And as the masses demand justice they will insist on prosecutions of all involved, bankers and Politicians and actions to “claw-back” all the alleged lawful BAILOUT funding, as well as the complete cancellation of all the USG deficit which is a phony debt anyhow.

It would be an understatement to describe these perps who run this huge Ponzi Scheme as in a state on ongoing panic. Normally their Hubris would deaden any such anxiety or fear, but this time they can easily imagine their whole system coming down upon them like a House of Cards blown apart by the BRICS System as soon as it comes on line.


The World Zionists tried to draw our Great Nation America into another major war for Israel and the Multinational Oil companies.

President Obama is caught right in the middle of all this. His current strategy is to beg for an impeachment attempt which he knows will be blocked in the US Senate where he has a clear majority of Democrats. He believes this will strengthen his position and he can say, “See I am the real President and cannot be impeded any longer.” Then perhaps he plans to keep instituting what he can’t get Congress to do using “Executive Orders” which many view as illegitimate, unlawful and Unconstitutional.

Actually he is not really the President at all and neither were any others supposedly elected after President Ronald Reagan became President on January 20 1989 after winning his election.(2) Lately President Obama has been threatening Putin and the Russian Federation with serious sanctions. This has been unwise because Putin hand other nations have countered by making huge Intel dumps into the public sector of exceedingly embarrassing incriminating information related to the hijacking and asset stripping of America by World Zionists working out of the City of London and their use of Nuclear Blackmail to manipulate and control numerous US presidents since Ronald Reagan.


European Allies are ditching America at an unprecedented rate as never before.

The US Administration and the AIPAC controlled members of Congress were hoping that Germany and France would join the US sanctions against the Russian Federation. No dice, they both buy a great deal of oil and Natural gas from the Russian Federation and understand such an actions would be stupid, easily ending up doubling their pricing of such or even higher.


Conclusion:

There are numerous Intel insiders and true Patriot “Intel Cowboys — White Hats”, members of the High Military Command and many others who are working to restore the American Dollar to what it should rightfully be, real true Constitutional money, backed by Gold and other commodities. This coming major World Financial Reset should more realistically be called a World Monetary “Restart” or “Re-grouping” rather than “Reset.”

The final result of all this is likely to be a major Restart and Re-grouping of monetary and credit policy inside America and a restoration of Constitutional currency without offshore, City of London controlled foreign invaders disguised as bankers. As long as cooler heads prevail and prevent the World Zionists invaders and hijackers of America from starting a nuclear WW3, or a major new war in the Mideast or the Ukraine, or Homeland Security from provoking a major Civil War inside America, it looks like Americans will see a return of the real USDollar, real United States Constitutional Money.

*Lee Wanta was a former Presidential Secret Agent under the Totten Doctrine [92 U.S. 105, 107 (1875), National Security Decision - Directive Number 166, dated March 27, 1985, inter alia] under U.S. President Ronald W. Reagan, whom some experts consider to be our last legally and duly elected President. Ambassador Wanta served – under Presidential Mandate – as a close personal consultant to President Reagan and was credited with having a major role engineering an end to the Soviet Union Cold War and the “tearing down of the Iron Curtain”. Ambassador Wanta negotiated a ground-breaking Agreement of Cooperation between the United States of America and the new Russian Federation. This historical Agreement was a notable win/win situation based on a new mutual respect for each others borders. An important Part of this Agreement was to never interfere with nations bordering each other’s country, which the USG is now violating. Ambassador Wanta’s remarkable story is now revealed in detail for the first time in a book authored by his biographer, Marilyn MaGruder Barnewell, titled, “Wanta! Black Swan,White Hat”, and numerous articles written about his detailed plans to revitalize America which have been published on www.veteranstoday.com.(3)



References:

(1) http://www.amazon.com/The-Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal/dp/0912986212

(2) http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/11/10/was-ronald-reagan-the-last-duly-elected-president/

(3) http://wantarevelations.com/wanta-black-swan-white-hat/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/18/...he-evil-empire/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/09/...he-evil-empire/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/02/...he-evil-empire/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/21/lee-wanta-american-hero/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/05/the-wanta-reconstructing-america-plan/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/28/high-speed-rail/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/14/14 04:05 PM

My comments: Not only the Fed's banks are being by-passed by several countries, but food import-export by which is hurting the EU terribly.

BRICS gain from Russia ban on EU, US food imports
http://thebricspost.com/brics-gain-from-russia-ban-on-eu-us-food-imports/

Following the near total food imports ban imposed by Russia on the US and certain EU nations, BRICS exports to Russia are growing substantially, new data revealed.

After 90 new meat plants in Brazil were recently approved to send beef, chicken and pork to Russia, Brazilian meat exports to the country has soared.

Brazil’s Association of Meat Exporters said on Tuesday that beef exports rose 19 per cent in July to $692 million over the same period last year. Exports to Russia rose 113 per cent to $181 million last month, compared to July 2013.

The volume of meat exports to Russia also surged, rising 78.9 per cent during the month to 41,000 tonnes.

Brazil is the world’s top exporter of beef and chicken. Brazil’s secretary of agricultural policy, Seneri Paludo said in Brasilia last week the void left by the EU in Russian markets had huge potential for Brazilian exports.

The Brazilian official said this Russian opportunity was similar to the “revolution” that Brazil’s exports experienced when China’s commodities market opened a decade ago.

The Kremlin had last week approved a ban on food imports from countries that had sanctioned Russia over the Ukraine crisis. More than a third of Russia’s agricultural imports came from the EU. Russia banned all imports of US food products and certain goods from the European Union, Australia, Canada and Norway.

Meanwhile, Chinese company Baorong has opened a special customs zone for Russia for direct exports of fruits and vegetables across the Russia-China border following the EU ban.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/19/14 02:46 PM

Two articles: first Russia being banned from the SWIFT System, second Russia and China creates a New SWIFT System. Notice the dates. Russia and China first created the New SWIFT system by which MainStreamMedia(MSM) did not report, and the Western countries replied to it by banning Russia from the SWIFT in MSM.


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RIA Novosti: European Parliament Calls For Excluding Russia From SWIFT System

http://en.ria.ru/business/20140918/19305...IFT-System.html

18/09/2014


In a resolution adopted Thursday, the European Parliament called on the EU member states to consider excluding Russia from the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) financial transaction system.

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WHAT PETRODOLLAR: RUSSIA, CHINA TO CREATE SWIFT ALTERNATIVE

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-10/what-petrodollar-russia-china-create-swift-alternative
September 10, 2014

If, when in February Victoria Nuland infamously launched a (not so) covert campaign to replace the ruling Ukraine president oblivious to the human casualties, resulting in a civil war in east Ukraine, NATO encroachment along the borders of Russia, and a near-terminal escalation in hostilities between Ukraine, Russian, and various regional NATO members, the US intention was to provoke the Kremlin so hard that the nation with the world’s largest reserves of mineral and energy resources would jettison the US Dollar and in the process begin the unraveling of the USD reserve currency status (as much as Jared Bernstein desires just such an outcome) it succeeded and then some.

Because in the end it may have pushed not just Russia into the anti-petrodollar camp… it appears to have forced China in it as well.

According to Itar-Tass, Russia and China are discussing setting up a system of interbank transactions which will become an analogue to International banking transaction system SWIFT, First Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov told PRIME on Wednesday after negotiations in Beijing.

“Yes, we have discussed and we have approved this idea,” he said.

But wait: wasn’t it the UK’s desire to force Russia out of SWIFT just two weeks ago? Why yes, and the fact that Russia is happy to do so, and on its own terms, once again shows just who has all the leverage, and who really needs, or rather doesn’t, the US Dollar.

More from Tass:

Originally Posted By: Tass
Russian authorities wanted to decrease the financial market’s dependence on SWIFT since the introduction of the first U.S. sanctions, when international payment systems Visa and MasterCard denied services to some Russian banks owned by blacklisted individuals.

According to Shuvalov, Russia has been also discussing establishment of an independent ratings agency with China. Concrete proposals will be made by the end of 2014, he said.

As regards China’s payment system UnionPay cooperation with the yet-to-be-established Russian national payment system, Shuvalov said that UnionPay is ready for a full-scale collaboration and will provide all infrastructural capacities for that.

The conclusion will be a repeat of what we have said every single time we report on the Eurasian alliance’s drift away from the petrodollar, as stated most recently two weeks ago:

Originally Posted By: Tass
We will merely say what we have said previously,
and it touches on what will be the most remarkable aspect of Obama’s legacy, because while the hypocrite “progressive” president who even his own people have accused of being a “brown-faced Clinton” after selling out to Wall Street and totally wrecking US foreign policy abroad, is already the worst president in a century of US history according to public polls, the fitting epitaph will come when the president’s policies put an end to dollar hegemony and end the reserve currency status of the dollar once and for all, thereby starting the rapid, and uncontrolled, collapse of the US empire. To wit:

In retrospect it will be very fitting that the crowning legacy of Obama’s disastrous reign, both domestically and certainly internationally, will be to force the world’s key ascendent superpowers (we certainly don’t envision broke, insolvent Europe among them) to drop the Petrodollar and end the reserve status of the US currency.
And once China and Russia show that not only can it be done but thanks to US prodding it has been done, expect other countries to promptly follow the anti-SWIFT axis on their own
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/19/14 02:52 PM

China set to win Asia gold pricing race with new exchange

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/1...ndChannel=11563

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(Reuters) - China will launch a gold exchange open to foreign players for the first time on Thursday, putting the world's top bullion buyer on track to win a race to set the benchmark price in Asia.

The Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE) will launch its international bourse with eleven yuan-denominated gold contracts, the first of a slew of bullion contracts expected in three other countries in the region before the end of the year.

A successful take-up could see more gold priced and paid for in yuan rather than the U.S. dollar, challenging the traditional dominance of London and New York in trading.

Asia, which accounts for about two thirds of global gold consumption, has long been clamouring to gain pricing power over bullion, although previous efforts have failed to win investor backing.

China's efforts have the best chance of success, say market players, as it has a huge home market. With imports of over 1,000 tonnes of gold last year and local production of about 400 tonnes, China consumes over a third of global supply.

SGE's global bourse, which will be situated in the new Shanghai free trade zone, is China's biggest step towards being a price-discovery centre by allowing foreign players to take part in the domestic market and by letting them trade in yuan.

"What we will see over time is the move towards pricing of gold and other commodities in offshore RMB," said Jeremy East, global head of metals trading at Standard Chartered.

"This potentially has global implications, for instance any producer selling gold into China would be paid in RMB rather than in dollar, which has been the traditional pricing currency hitherto."

The long-used pricing benchmark for gold, the so-called London "fix", has come under regulatory scrutiny due to allegations of manipulation, adding to China's push to have a bigger influence on global pricing.

"We should have gold fixing, pricing done in China itself," SGE chairman Xu Luode told an industry conference in Singapore in June. "We need to build China's influence in the global gold market."

While physical demand provides underlying support for gold, prices are largely driven by speculative trade. China's push for an international physical exchange means physical demand could have a stronger influence.

The contracts on the new exchange will be physically settled and will be traded between bullion banks, refiners, producers and trading houses.


ASIA'S BEST BET

Others centres are preparing similar contracts.

CME Group is set to launch a physically deliverable futures contract in Hong Kong later this year, while the Singapore Exchange will launch a wholesale contract. Dubai is also preparing to launch a spot contract.

The success of these contracts depends heavily on the liquidity they can garner, as that would indicate whether the prices would be widely accepted.

"China's gold market advantage lies in the strength of its domestic market," said Jiang Shu, an analyst with Industrial Bank, one of the few banks allowed to import gold into China.

A senior source at the SGE conceded that initial volumes may be light, but said the exchange was not worried about liquidity.

"We have confidence in the success of the exchange because we have genuine demand here," said the source.

The exchange has attracted strong interest from foreign players, signing up more trading members than it had initially planned.

HSBC, Australia and New Zealand Banking Group , Standard Chartered, Goldman Sachs, and refiners Metalor and Heraeus are among initial trading members.

Trading in SGE's gold contracts will kick off with a night session on Thursday, beginning at 8 pm local time (1200) GMT.

SGE set the price for the contracts at 245.28 yuan per gram for the first day, with a trading limit set at 6 percent of the price. From Friday, the trading band will be 30 percent, the exchange said on its website on Thursday.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/25/14 12:05 AM

My Comment: Stephen Jones’s has a real good article today about “the lost interview where Jeff Yastine interviewed Jim Rickards, a former CIA analyst who wrote a book entitled The Death of Money. The full interview can be read here:
https://w3.newsmax.com/LP/Finance/FIR/FIR-Collapse?dkt_nbr=qeo9ocnz

Stephen provides a summary and quotes of the long lost interview while making comments with a Biblical perspective of the current events with the major players of the conflicts between Mystery Babylon, US, Russia, China, the BRICS, and the Chinese Imperial families all relating to the financial world with its soon-coming global reset.

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The soon-coming global reset
Sep 24, 2014

I have written for many years that the “kings of the east” in Revelation 16:12 prophesy of China and Russia overthrowing Mystery Babylon today. John says it would take “seven bowls” of judgment-wine poured out over Babylon to complete the city’s overthrow. Revelation 16:12 describes the sixth bowl of wine directed at Babylon, and John’s description shows us that these “kings” are comparable to the Medes and Persians, who overthrew Babylon in 537 B.C.

The Medes and Persians dried up the Euphrates River in order to walk into Babylon on dry (shallow) ground. This was prophesied in Isaiah 44:27. King Belshazzar of Babylon was killed, Darius the Mede established himself as the new king. Shortly afterward, when Cyrus the Persian came to town, he issued a directive that allowed the people of Judah to return to their old land.

In other words, the coming of the “kings of the east” is not a bad thing, but is the way in which God is setting His people free. Unfortunately, most modern eschatological teaching sees these “kings” as enemies of God. They speak of a 200-million man army coming from China to invade the land of Israel, instead of seeing it as an army that overthrows Babylon and sets the people free.

I’m not a military man, but even I can see that if such an army began marching west from China heading toward Israel, it would take only one or two nukes to destroy them all. The advent of the nuclear age after World War II made large-scale invasions nearly impossible, because concentrated armies or fleets are so vulnerable today.

A simple look at history and the prophecies of Isaiah 44, 45 show the fallacy of the belief that the kings of the east are the bad guys. King Cyrus of Persia is called a “messiah” in Isaiah 45:1, the one that God anointed to overthrow Babylon. King Darius, his chief ally from Medea, was not mentioned directly by Isaiah, but he organized the new kingdom into 120 provinces and installed Daniel as the chief of three governors. This was a type of the Kingdom of God being organized, having an outpouring of the Spirit (120) and being ruled by the saints of the Most High (Daniel 7:22).

So Revelation 16:12 speaks of the seventh bowl of divine judgment being poured out upon Babylon, and “the kings of the east” are said to do this. It is a latter-day prophecy taken directly from the original pattern of Cyrus and Darius, who overthrew Babylon. The modern nations fulfilling these roles are China and Russia. These are the nations that God has anointed to bring down Mystery Babylon in our time.

They are not the bad guys. The bad guys are the ones who control the Western media, attempting to demonize Russia and China. It is a propaganda war to gain the support of as many people as possible and to justify their plans to destroy much of the world. The ten principles on the Georgia Guide Stones sets forth their agenda. The first principle is:

“Maintain Humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.”

http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/message.htm

They conveniently neglect telling us how this will be accomplished. It is clear from their actions and statements that they plan to kill about 7 billion people in the name of saving the environment. They are already doing this by creating conflict and war, aborting the unborn children, and creating ill health by disease, toxic substances, and unhealthy food.

This is the Babylonian agenda. Since China has the most to lose insofar as population is concerned, they are not going along with this plan of destruction. And Russia has sided with them, as have all the BRICS nations. This rising coalition is the natural enemy of Mystery Babylon.


The Glaziev Directive

Sergei Glaziev (or Glazyev) is one of Russian President Putin’s advisors. On June 10, 2014 he issued a statement that was of historic importance. This was reported later in an article entitled The Lost Interview, by Jeff Yastine, who is the head of the Financial Intelligence Report. (I used to watch Jeff on Nightly Business Report.) The Lost Interview is where Jeff Yastine interviewed Jim Rickards, a former CIA analyst who wrote a book entitled The Death of Money. The full interview can be read here:

https://w3.newsmax.com/LP/Finance/FIR/FIR-Collapse?dkt_nbr=qeo9ocnz

In this long interview, Jim Rickards tells us that after the
Twin Towers demolition, the CIA noticed that the unnamed “terrorist” had placed bets that the airline stock prices would go down. Whoever did this made a lot of money when it happened. In other words, someone with a lot of money knew about the Twin Towers disaster before it happened, and they positioned themselves to make money on it.

Rickards does not even give a hint to tell us who had done this, although it seems to me that all such financial transactions are recorded somewhere, and the CIA should have no problem finding out who did this. If the Twin Towers had been destroyed by the media’s scapegoats, no doubt he would have told us, for he would have no reason to hide it. Keeping it a secret, however, reveals the truth with the sounds of silence.

No matter. The point is that the CIA and Pentagon began tracking financial anomalies as indicators of soon-coming “terrorist” events. Rickards said,

Originally Posted By: Jim Rickards
“The agency believed that terrorists were trading in airline stocks before the run up to the terrorist attack…

“We found clear evidence that someone knew the attacks were about to happen. Without getting too technical, the terrorists were using the options markets to make big bets that airline stocks would tank.”


The main purpose of the attack on 911, he says, was to kill people, but the more damaging effect was to collapse the economy. Are we to believe, then, that al-Quaeda terrorists not only planned the attacks but also bought millions of dollars worth of options on the stock market in order to profit from the collapse of airline stocks??


Collapsing America

By discovering the large purchase of options against the airline stocks, He says that the CIA came to understand the absolute vulnerability of Europe and America. They had

Originally Posted By: Jim Rickards
“irrefutable evidence that that shows this collapse is imminent and could happen at any time.”

“In fact, when the Pentagon got wind of the shocking discoveries he made while working on a top-secret project for the CIA, they quickly militarized his findings in preparation for the financial chaos to come.”


He explains how America has seen three economic collapses in the past century: 1914, 1939, and 1971. Those crises came before the banks and economies of the world were tied together. He uses the metaphor of ships at sea. If one goes down in a storm, the others may survive. But if they are all tied together, and one goes down, they all go down. In other words, the next great financial crisis in any sizable nation will take down the rest of the world with it.


The BRICS Alliance

Turning to a more recent group of nations that is taking steps to bring down the Western banking system, He shows how the BRICS alliance (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) is positioning itself outside of the Western system and is setting up its own counterpart to the IMF in order to survive the coming collapse in finances and in trade. Rickards describes the plan as coming in TWO STEPS.

Originally Posted By: Jim Richards
“Their first step was outlined on June 10, under the Glaziev Directive. A directive that spells out the first punch that will knock the U.S. economy to the mat. And while this first hit will shake the foundation of our financial system to the core, it’s the second punch that will deal a deathblow to American wealth and everything you hold dear.”


He continues later, saying,

Originally Posted By: Jim Richards
“Pen was finally put to paper on June 10, when Vladimir Putin’s economic advisor, Sergey Glaziev, published a bold directive where he outlined the rationale behind an international alliance of countries [the BRICS] that were ready to get rid of the dollar for international trade and also to stop using it as their reserve currency.

“And taking it one step further, Elvira Nabiullina, the governor of the Russian central bank, recently stated that Russia is in discussions with China and their BRICS partners regarding the establishment of a new system for multilateral trade.

“It will allow the transfer of resources from one country to another, as needed, so each member can start directing their currency reserves away from the dollar and to the new system.”


In other words, the BRICS nations will trade among themselves using their own currencies, instead of using the US dollar to pay each other when goods are traded. This shift began after 911 and is a direct consequence of 911. He forgets to mention that the BRICS nations have every right to set up their own system, especially since the past system put an economic strangle hold on everyone else while refusing to exercise proper fiscal responsibility. In other words, the old system was broken and needed replacement.


The Consequences of 911

In the 1920’s and 1930’s they (and many nations) sent gold to the Federal Reserve Bank for safe-keeping, knowing that there was soon coming a war with Japan. These gold shipments were not gifts, but loans, and so they received interest-bearing receipts for them. These bonds for the gold-loans came due at various times, but perhaps the most important were the 60-year loans in 1938 that came due in 1998.

When the Fed bankers balked at paying back the loans, the Dragon families sued them in the World Court, winning their case. The Federal Reserve Bank was given a deadline to pay their debt by September 12, 2001. The day before the debt was to be paid, all the records were lost in the Twin Towers demolition. The records were held in the offices of the Cantor Fitzgerald law firm, which one of the planes hit directly, killing their entire staff and destroying all their records.
The gold under the Tower was secretly stolen and shipped away to a more secure, secret location, probably in Paraguay.

There is little doubt that the same people who had purchased the “put options” against the airline stocks were the same ones who had refused to pay their debts to the Dragon family. The Dragon family then experienced a “reality check,” seeing clearly that these bankers had no respect for the law. They were ruthless and were willing to kill thousands of their own people (Americans) and even to start a world war rather than pay their debt or give up power.

A new approach was needed, one that was slower.


The BRICS Alliance

The foreign ministers began meeting in 2006, and a full-scale diplomatic meeting was held in Russia in 2008. It started out with just four nations (BRIC), but when South Africa joined them in 2010, it became the BRICS alliance. On July 15, 2014 they set up the BRICS Development Bank as an alternative to the IMF.

This came 70 years after the US Dollar had been crowned king at the Bretton Woods Convention in July 1944. The Glaziev Directive on June 10 stated the official policy for the BRICS nations. Rickards says this Directive reveals a two-step policy to success in establishing the alternate economic system. Its success, of course, will have a side effect of destroying the old system. Rickards of this,

Originally Posted By: Jim Rickards
“This is step one in a coordinated effort to unseat the U.S. dollar as the world’s reserve currency. But what’s even worse is step two. Through my market intelligence sources, we now see that the major governments, including the United States, the Eurozone, and China are allowing a covert redistribution of gold so the entire system can be reset—a preplanned, global reset of the value of money

“It’s conspiratorial in that the governments involved don’t want others to know what they’re doing. In truth, it’s just a pragmatic way to stabilize the monetary system globally, and prepare the major parties for a global reset of the value of money. A reset that will save the system, but unfortunately, as I mentioned earlier, millions of people are going to have everything they own virtually wiped out overnight.”


Rickards seems to admit here that this new BRICS plan is designed to “save the system,” not that it will save the old Bretton Woods plan, but that it will set forth a new plan that will save the world from the collapse of fiat currencies and world trade in general.

We see, then, that the second step will be the actual Global Currency Reset, which I have written about for some years now. China’s accumulation of gold has been a very poorly kept secret. I am not sure why Rickards thinks it is a secret. His point is that those who are holding paper currency and paper contracts when this Reset hits are going to find that their money has lost most of its value. Only those who are holding tangible assets (such as gold or silver) will benefit by this Reset.

Those who have the most to lose are those with retirement funds or money in the bank or currency under the mattress. Such currency used to be “as good as gold,” until 1971 when President Nixon made it “as good as the faith and credit of the United States.” However, since that time, with the astronomical amounts of new money being created out of nothing, that “faith and credit” has been severely eroded, and many nations are now very nervous about holding US dollars.

All it will take is for one nation to scream “Fire!” for the whole world to start bolting toward the door to get out of US dollars. That will be the end of Babylonian world history. The power of Babylon is bound up in the value and quantity of its money.


Rickards’ Perspective

In reading this interview, it is clear that Jim Rickards is coming from the perspective that US hegemony (dominance) in the world is the preferred world order. In his view, what the BRICS alliance is doing is “bad.” He has been working against the BRICS alliance in the CIA, hoping to slow down the demise of the US dollar.

But in a broader view, every country ought to be as “sovereign” as they claim to be in public. Nations should not be forced (or bribed) into any policy that is detrimental to its own well-being. However, we have to live in “the real world,” where national sovereignty is a myth for most nations. Hegemony is the reality. Wars are really just turf wars fought by gangs of nations seeking more power and dominance. The people (and individual soldiers) are the greatest victims.

After World War II, much of the world lay devastated, while the US came out relatively unscathed. That is why the US dollar was crowned king in 1944. That is how US hegemony became entrenched. But the world has now rebuilt itself, and new nations are emerging with strong economies and militaries. US hegemony is being challenged. The BRICS alliance has banded together to challenge that hegemony and to form a new economic alliance without being tethered to its former master—the US dollar.

Those nations have every right to buy as much gold as they wish. And here is where it appears as if the US and China have a common goal. In order for the US to maintain the value of its dollar, it must manipulate the value of gold lower and lower, because all value is relative. A low gold price means a high value for the dollar.

At the same time, China is buying gold at those low, low bargain prices, because the new system that is coming will see money that is backed by real assets such as gold. In other words, the manipulation going on in the West by the price-fixing banks is playing into the hands of the BRICS nations, especially to China and India. The longer this goes on, the more gold they will accumulate, and the better off they will be when the Reset occurs.

Conversely, the US will be caught without any gold at all. Few people in the know believe that the US government really holds 8,000 tons of gold, as it claims to have. It cannot even find enough gold in its coffers to give back what they have been storing for Germany when that nation recently demanded its 300 tons of gold.

Again, in the 1990’s when China bought gold from the West, it discovered that the gold was really just gold-plated tungsten. They traced it to Fort Knox, where the gold was counterfeited. The story hit the internet news in 2009.

Jim Rickards does not speak from a biblical perspective. He is trying to save the old way of life in America for as long as possible. I can appreciate that, of course, but to me it is more important to find out what God is doing in the History of the Kingdom. Just because we have a high standard of living in our Babylonian captivity does not mean that it will last forever. At some point Babylon’s foundations will erode and collapse.

The Judahites in Babylon did not want to leave either. After 70 years, most of them were well entrenched in Babylonian life and business, and did not want to endure the trials of recolonizing their old land. That is why so few returned with Zerubbabel.

A similar situation exists today. Babylon has made America wealthy, largely due to the world trade tax that is imposed upon every nation that does international trade. Because the US dollar is used for making payments in world trade, the wire transfers have to be made in US dollars through the SWIFT system of money transfers. All such payments go through the Federal Reserve Bank, which takes a percentage of the transaction as a fee. This is, in effect, a tax on all world trade.

The BRICS nations are setting up a new system of payments through their own bank which bypasses the SWIFT system and the Federal Reserve. Payments are being done in each country’s own currency for the present, but soon will create its own world reserve currency made up of a basket of currencies. In other words, world trade going through the BRICS bank will be settled in about four specific currencies, rather than the single US dollar. Jim Rickards concedes that because of this the US dollar is doomed.
Originally Posted By: The Lost Interview
Jeff: And when you think about it, it’s almost as if there’s no way out of this….

Jim: You’re right. And it is just more fuel for the fire as global players look to distance themselves from using the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. And while America is loath to lose its position as the world’s reserve currency, our astronomical money printing to cover our debt makes it impossible to sustain. Basically, we’ve overstepped our monetary bounds for good, and there is no turning back…

I’ve had private conversations with former Federal Reserve board members, and other central bankers around the globe, on what’s going on behind the scenes—what’s not getting reported in the mainstream media—and frankly, everything I’m hearing is that this global reset is about to hit. In fact, we already know what it looks like, and when you can expect it to happen.


So when can we expect this global reset to happen? Rickards does not give a date, but he says essentially that it will happen when China feels it has accumulated enough gold to secure its yuan (currency) as part of the “basket of currencies” that will replace the US dollar. He says,

Originally Posted By: Jim Rickards
“And while countries publicly claim that they no longer tie their currency to the value of gold, what they are doing privately is a different story. And China is the biggest actor in covert gold acquisition…. And since it knows the ‘dollar’ system is coming to an end, it has to increase its gold holdings before it can trigger a global reset of the world’s [new] reserve currency.”


But since China’s official figures do not match their actual holdings, we are on our own in figuring out how much they really have, and how much they need to have before the reset. Jim says,
Originally Posted By: The Lost Interview
Jim Rickards: China’s last official announcement was over five years ago on April 25, 2009. At that time, it claimed to have 1,054 tonnes. That’s a 76% increase from the 600 tonnes it had in 2003. Right now, Shanghai Daily has reported that China has quietly amassed about 2,710 tonnes of gold.

Jeff: That’s an unofficial number.

Jim Rickards: Yes, that’s an unofficial number. But you and I both know that China controls its media. So it is letting it be known that it is accumulating more gold, but it is not letting the public know exactly how much. But from what I have gathered from trusted sources, the Chinese actually have amassed around 4,000 to 4,500 tonnes of gold already.

Jeff: Wow, that’s a massive difference.

Jim Rickards: It is. And when Chinese gold hits around $5,000 an ounce, all bets are off. It will be the second punch that will deal a deathblow to the dollar. And set off the wholesale destruction of American wealth.

The bottom line is that China is being allowed to acquire gold without spooking the markets and driving up the price. This way, it will be “on the train” when it leaves the station. The only problem is that when the train leaves the station and the global reset triggers a new reserve currency, nearly all American wealth will be wiped out, except for those who have prepared themselves in advance…

One last thing, Jeff. Our viewers should know that China could announce its holdings at any time. So they shouldn’t wait to get their financial house in order. The time to act is now. Before it’s too late….

Jeff: From what you’ve seen today, we are beyond the point of no return, as China prepares to announce its official gold holdings at any time. And when it does, there will be no time left to prepare yourself for the devastation ahead.
And to think our government is helping China do it. By suppressing the price of gold, under the guise of weakening its function as a reserve currency, China is able to covertly acquire as much gold as it will need to trigger the death of money as you know it.


So the bottom line here—as they see it—is that China is holding about 4,500 tons (tonnes) of gold right now. They suggest that their goal is to accumulate about 5,000 tons before announcing the global currency reset. When they make this announcement, investors will realize that the current price is totally unrealistic in view of all the secret purchases going on in the past few years.

This will make it impossible to rig the price of gold any longer, and it will shoot up almost immediately to at least $5,000 per ounce. At that price, it will be able to back the new basket of currencies that the BRICS nations are putting together to replace the US dollar as the world currency for the next century or longer.

Meanwhile, the US has no defense against what is coming, unless it is able to start World War III and destroy the BRICS nations (beginning with Russia). The price-riggers have no choice but to keep the price of gold and silver low, because that is the only way the dollar can retain its value. But rigging the market to keep the price of gold low allows China and India to buy gold cheaply with all the dollars they hold in their reserves.

When things change, those nations holding gold and silver will emerge as the strongest in the world. The others will suffer loss.

For us, it is important to see that China is playing the role of modern Cyrus, while Russia is playing the “front man” role of Darius. Hence, Russia taking all the heat, while China remains quiet while backing Russia to the hilt from behind the scenes.

As believers who understand Bible prophecy, we have no reason to fear either Russia or China. God has raised them up to overthrow Babylon and to set us free. Jim Rikards is sounding the alarm in order to sell more books, of course, but we can look at the facts without fear.

The fact is, the Dragon families of China are emerging as the real power brokers in China and the BRICS alliance. They were overthrown in 1910 when the last dynasty was overthrown and the Republic of China was established, and have been in hiding since 1949, when the Communists took power.

These Dragon families have made it known that they intend to minimize the chaos as much as possible on account of the global reset. The destruction and chaos could be greatly minimized if the Babylonian oligarchs of the West would simply capitulate and give up power. For example, if the US congress would agree to ratify the new IMF reforms—as the rest of the world has already done—this transfer of power could be more amicable.

But the Western oligarchs have chosen to foment war and to sponsor terrorism in order to cause chaos in hopes of extending their dominance for a little while longer. This is the primary reason the transition will cause pain to so many people. We can hardly expect anything else from these people, and for this reason we should prepare ourselves to the best of our ability.

As for the Dragon families, they intend to use their enormous wealth for the benefit of mankind to rebuild the world under Divine Order—as they understand it.

In my view, I suspect that they will need further divine counsel through a study of God’s law in order to perfect what they are setting up. Their main concern now is in the economic and financial realm. Once this is established, they will see the need to change the judicial systems of the world. They will need a greater understanding the laws set forth by Moses, the applications of law by the prophets, and Jesus’ New Covenant understanding of the law seen in the gospels.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/08/14 03:08 PM

Here's an article I just saw where India who is part of the BRICS countries is working to get the West(Mystery Babylon) MegaCorp out of their country. Mainstream media only reported it Oct 7th when I saw an alternate news reporting it July 10th.

Indian authorities close down Coca-Cola factory

NSNBC:Indian authorities close down Coca-Cola factory
Oct 7th, 2014
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Natalia Rogozhina (NEO) : The closing down of the recently built factory belonging to Coca-Cola in India, located close to Varanasi in the state Uttar Pradesh, is the result of a prolonged and persistent struggle by the local residents, which has been going on for the past 11 years. The grounds for the protests were the concerns of the locals regarding the depletion and the pollution of the ground waters, due to the activities of the company, as well as the unlawful seizure of the territories belonging to local communities.

As a result, the Regulatory Authorities of India refused to issue Coca-Cola a permit for the activities of the new enterprise (one of the 58 factories, located on the territory of the country) and refused to present their decision for consideration to the National Green Tribunal (NGT), which sanctioned the closure of the enterprise in the first place. India is one of the few developing countries, where the active role in supporting ecological safety belongs to the court system.

The Court ruled that the five-fold increase in groundwater withdrawals, requested by the company will aggravate the water supply situation even further, which has significantly deteriorated since the arrival of Coca-Cola in India in 1999.

Back in 2009, the local authorities of Mehdiganj (the area of Varanasi being part of it) were forced to impose restrictions for peasants to use the ground waters, which could not but entail their negative response, aimed at the largest American corporation. The situation was aggravated by the fact that 70% of the water withdrawal accounts for the period from March till June, when the level of the groundwater occurrence reaches its minimum, which restricts the possibility of it being used by the locals, living at the expense of agriculture.

One Coca-Cola enterprise only uses one million liters per day. However, the production of the final product (600 bottles per minute) requires a quarter of the withdrawn ground water volume. A large part of it becomes waste which is discharged, without a full cycle of purification, into the environment and reaching the fields and water reservoirs, causing their contamination. State ecological authorities of India took samples of the waste produced by nine Coca-Cola factories and found a very high content of lead, cadmium and chromium, exceeding the safe standards for the health of the population by 30 times, which can result in the immune system malfunctions and presents a danger for cancer occurrence. One cannot say the same about the Coca-Cola drinks sold in the USA. There, according to conclusions made by the Indian non-government organisation ‘Centre for Science and Environment’, no poisonous substances were found in the company’s products. The Indian parliament has even prohibited the sale of Coca-Cola drinks in the building of the legislation authority, due to the high content of pesticides and chemicals, including DDT.

Another problem for Coca-Cola became the territorial aspect. Business expansion requires new areas, part of which is in the ownership of the communities, and the private usage of which is prohibited by Indian law. At the end of 2013, the Mehdiganj local authorities issued an order which envisaged evicting Coca-Cola from the territories unlawfully taken by it. Earlier the Supreme Court of India ruled in favour of banning the placement of any structures into the communal properties. Therefore the instruction of the local authorities on demolishing the Coca-Cola factory does have legal grounds.

The loss of the project worth 25 million dollars is a great financial fiasco for Coca-Cola, which considers India to be one of the major sale markets (among 200 countries where its products are being sold), generating high profits, which have significantly decreased in developed countries. This is due to the fact that people there are becoming increasingly concerned about their health and the consumption of Coca-Cola products presents a serious threat to it. Coca-Cola, which is considered to be the largest foreign investor in India (2 billion dollars from 1993 up to 2011), is planning to invest 5 billion dollars by 2020, into the development of its business in the country. And all of this is happening despite the growing discontent of the population, legal costs, and disputes with local authorities. Now the company has to improve its ecological image by trying to convince the Indian population that it does not have to do anything with water contamination or its shortages.

However, the statements of the company have not reassured Indian society; neither have the attempts of Coca-Cola to expand its charity activity in India. The population is protesting against the American company in different ways every day. According to Amit Srivastava, head of India Resource Center, R&D institution, which is taking an active part in arranging the protest campaign, “Coca-Cola’ is a shameless and non-ethical company, which places receiving its profit above the well-being of the communities, existing in proximity to its enterprises”. Nandlal Master, a representative of another non-governmental structure, campaigning for the closure of the factory, admits: “The local community has achieved a great victory and it has proven that it is possible to destabilize the authority of a large business”.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/08/14 03:11 PM

Vietnam to join Moscow-led Customs Union bloc: Reports
http://thebricspost.com/vietnam-to-join-moscow-led-customs-union-bloc-reports/
October 6, 2014

Quote:
Russian officials are speeding up negotiations for Vietnam to join the Moscow-led Customs Union bloc, officials said on Monday. The inclusion of Vietnam in the group would reinforce President Putin’s drive to show Russia will not be isolated by Western sanctions.

The two countries will boost bilateral trade revenue to $7 billion in 2015 and $10 billion in 2020, said Doan Duy Khuong, vice chairman of Vietnam Chamber of Commerce and Industry (VCCI), on Monday. The two sides are also beefing up efforts to conclude negotiations on a free trade agreement, said the official at a Vietnam-Russia business forum held in Hanoi.

Russia expects Vietnam to soon join the Customs Union of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Russia as negotiations on the free trade agreement between the union and Vietnam is yielding much progress, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in April this year.

“Russia attaches great importance to the traditional friendly relations with Vietnam and highlights the increasing role of Vietnam in the Asia-Pacific. Russia and Vietnam have the same viewpoints over many regional and international issues. Russia supports Vietnam’s active role in the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) as well as ASEAN’s role in establishing a new regional architecture,” said Lavrov.

In May this year, Russian President Vladimir Putin welcomed Kazakhstan and Belarus into a new Eurasian Economic Union, with a market of 170 million people, a combined annual GDP of $2.7 trillion and vast energy riches.

“In the past three years trade turnover within the Customs Union has gone up by 50 percent – that is by $23 billion (in 2013 it amounted to $66.2 billion). We also discussed the prospects for other partners joining the Union. We agreed to step up our negotiations, as I already said, with Vietnam on creating a free trade zone,” Putin said in a press conference following a Eurasian Council meet in Astana, Kazakhstan.

The agreement once signed will create breakthrough to realize the targets of bilateral trade revenues in 2015 and 2020, said the chief of the Vietnamese business body on Monday in Hanoi.

“In the past few years, Vietnam has been among countries in Asia-Pacific that Russia sets priorities in political and economic fields,” said Russian Ambassador to Vietnam Andrey G. Kovtun.

The Customs Union guarantees the free transit of goods, services, capital and workforces and coordinates policy for major economic sectors.

Russia is working with Vietnam on 12 big investment projects including the construction of the Ninh Thuan 1 nuclear power plant, oil and gas exploitation by Russia-Vietnam joint-venture companies on Vietnam’s continental shelf and Russian territories, and the expansion and modernization of Vietnam’s Dung Quat oil refinery factory.

Vietnam and Russia established diplomatic ties in 1950. In 2013, two-way trade turnover hit $4 billion, up 7 per cent year-on-year, while in the first seven months of 2014 the figure already stood at around $2 billion.

Meanwhile, the US continues to woo Vietnam as part of its much-hyped “Pivot to Asia”. The United States last week announced it was partially lifting a ban on lethal arms sales to Vietnam which was imposed in 1984.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/18/14 10:10 AM

A major shift of power has happened last Thursday. China (working with many Empirical Asian Families) now have power over the IMF and the Federal Reserve. Mystery Babylon (aka Cabals, Illuminati, etc.) have finally turn over the power of the IMF and FED to the China because they are in major debt and cannot reimburse what is owed to the Asian Families. They were trying to cause bankruptcy so to plunge the world into chaos and retain their power, but China did not allow them and have won their case. If this transfer of power to China wouldn’t of happened then the bankruptcy of the world was the inevitable outcome as the current system was design to collapse as it is a unsustainable system by design and the debt would go on the people’s head(not the Bankers or the corporation). That plan was unacceptable to the Empirical Asian Families.

So it’s been since 2010 that a restructure of the Banking system was put on the table so to restructure and reset the whole world Banking system that also comprise a re-evaluation of every countries currencies to reflect their true value(natural resources, gold reserve, people, productivity, etc…). Currently some countries currencies are over valued(USA & European countries) and other countries are under valued(Iraq, Vietnam, etc…) depending on Mystery Babylon’s say and not on their true worth.

So it’s been since 2012, they expected to activate this restructure. Mystery Babylon didn’t want to cooperate; thus the BRICS has stepped in 2013 to start building a new Banking system to bypass the current one. Now with the transfer of power has finally been made; the world bankruptcy will not happen and the responsibility of the debt will be put on the Bankers head at the international court.

This is a major break thru. For sure Mystery Babylon will continue to resist ‘till the end. They will still be there, but they have no longer any money or power. So their influence will be increasingly be lesser to manipulate the media, military, politicians, and etc… We should see some good news towards this end a little at a time. They hope that at the coming Chinese New Year some big progress toward the restructure will be made, but many steps are needed and it will take some time to implement it all. They do want to make a slow transition so not to disrupt the society. Probably will take a couple more years to be fully implemented.

There’s two videos by Dave Schmidt, ex Washington Senator, who is in contact with the Ambassador of an Asian Family. The first is very brief, the second is with more details.

5 min You-tube (start at .58sec mark)

50 min youtube
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/20/14 07:26 PM

I'm having trouble understanding why the Federal Reserve would be in bankruptcy and why they would then turn over power to China rather than just printing more money.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/25/14 02:34 AM

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/25/14 08:44 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
I'm having trouble understanding why the Federal Reserve would be in bankruptcy and why they would then turn over power to China rather than just printing more money.

This is what I understand from reading different sources from the last 3 years.

The Americans were loan out a few trillions dollars worth of gold 100 years ago by the Chinese Royal Families. These Royal familes saw good potential with the US to be a blessing to the world. The USA was booming at the time and could level out the power from Great Britain by which was dominating the world. However, the Federal Reserve got taken by a secret societies mainly the Rothchild.

Without going into the secret societies and shadow government and Federal Reserve being a corporation, etc..., despite all of that, the bottom line is -- it was a loan that needed to be paid back in GOLD for that's what was given to them.

Yes the Federal Reserve can print all kinds of money out of thin air but it is worth nothing; paper cannot pay back the loan that is due in gold. So of course they don't have the gold entrusted to them anymore. They couldn't pay back Germany's little amount of gold they had in store for them. Rumers says that Fort knox is empty and they have nothing in their vaults.

So they cannot pay those trillions in gold to their creditors. They are bankrupt in all aspect, but the Royal Chinese Families is not going to let them declare bankruptcy and put the debt on the head of the people. They will hold accountable the Bankers and other leaders. And the corporations : Federal Reserve, IMF and other associated entities now belong to the Royal Families.

What I understand is one of the pay back dates of the loan was due in 2001 the day after 9/11. Many court hearing and negotiations has taken place since and many chances were given to the Fed. Reserve to make it right. So since they didn't remit their wrongs, they(Fed Reserve) are indebted to the Royal Chinese Familes.

Here's a little brief history where this gold came from. It was accumulated by the Chinese and some other nations since the time of Solomon and even further back. Remember Solomon married many woman from different countries and sent them back as ambassadors. Also Solomon mined gold in many countries as written in the Bible.

Also, the Chinese over milleniums of years always have been great vendors in silk, porcelaine, spices, and other commodities that they traded to other countries for Gold. They never been much into wars and conquering other nations like all the others. They were more stable and into producing goods and trading. In the past, gold always been the main reliable source of exchange in trading. Paper money only started to come in the 11th century.

So the Chinese Royal families have accumulated most of the world gold and treasures in the past 4000 years. They see this position as a divine responsibility that this gold is to be used for the benefit of the world. They have learned through hardship that greed and power is not approved by our heavenly Father.

With this divine responsibility in mind, they always been loaning this gold to different countries in the past for I think over 1000 years if not more. Their criteria of the loan is to benefit the people and the world. If not used properly, then the Royal Chinese families are not going to renew their mandate to the group they entrusted the gold to.

The mandate of the Federal Reserve was not renewed in 2012 because of the obvious reasons of how they used it unwisely and greedily and been tyrants over the people.


The above is my simple explanation of what I understand.

Here's the latest interview with the Ambassador explaining more in details the above.

http://www.doublewidenetwork.com/index.php/Audio/the_sedona_connection_with_dave_schmidt


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/25/14 09:06 AM

Three major nations absent as China launches W.Bank rival in Asia

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/three-major-nations-absent-china-040036987.html
SHANGHAI (Reuters) -
24 Oct, 2014

Quote:

Australia, Indonesia and South Korea skipped the launch of a China-backed Asian infrastructure bank on Friday as the United States said it had concerns about the new rival to Western-dominated multilateral lenders.

China's $50 billion Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) is seen as a challenge to the World Bank and Asian Development Bank, both of which count Washington and its allies as their biggest financial backers.

China, which is keen to extend its influence and soft power in the region, has limited voting rights in these existing banks despite being the world's second-largest economy.

The AIIB, launched in Beijing at a ceremony attended by Chinese finance minister Lou Jiwei and delegates from 21 countries including India, Thailand and Malaysia, aims to give project loans to developing nations. China is set to be its largest shareholder with a stake of up to 50 percent.

Indonesia was not present and neither were South Korea and Australia, according to a pool report.

Japan, China's main rival in Asia and which dominates the $175 billion Asian Development Bank along with the United States, was also not present, but it was not expected to be.

Media reports said U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry put pressure on Australia to stay out of the AIIB.

However, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said: "Secretary Kerry has made clear directly to the Chinese as well as to other partners that we &#8206;welcome the idea of an infrastructure bank for Asia but we strongly urge that it meet international standards of governance and transparency.

"We have concerns about the ambiguous nature of the AIIB proposal as it currently stands, that we have also expressed publicly."

In a speech to delegates after the inauguration, Chinese President Xi Jinping said the new bank would use the best practices of the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank.

"For the AIIB, its operation needs to follow multilateral rules and procedures," Xi said. "We have also to learn from the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank and other existing multilateral development institutions in their good practices and useful experiences."

PERSONAL LOBBYING

The Australian Financial Review said Kerry had personally asked Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott to keep Australia out of the AIIB.

"Australia has been under pressure from the U.S. for some time to not become a founding member of the bank and it is understood Mr Kerry put the case directly to the prime minister when the pair met in Jakarta on Monday ­following the inauguration of Indonesian President Joko Widodo," the paper said.

South Korea, one of Washington's strongest diplomatic allies in Asia, has yet to say it will formally participate in the bank. Its finance ministry said last week it has been speaking with China to request more consideration over details such as the AIIB's governance and operational principles.

"We have continued to demand rationality in areas such as governance and safeguard issues, and there's no reason (for Korea) not to join it," South Korean Finance Minister Choi Kyung-hwan said in Beijing on Thursday after attending a separate regional meeting.

The Seoul-based JoongAng Daily quoted a South Korean diplomatic source as saying: "While Korea has been dropped from the list of founding members of the AIIB this time around, it is still in a deep dilemma on what sort of strategic choices it has to make as China challenges the U.S.-led international order."

The AIIB is expected to begin operations in 2015 with senior Chinese banker Jin Liqun, ex-chairman of investment bank China International Capital Corp, expected to take a leading role.

The memorandum of understanding signed on Friday said authorised capital of the bank would be $100 billion and that the AIIB would be formally established by the end of 2015 with its headquarters in Beijing, state news agency Xinhua said.

Takehiko Nakao, the president of the Manila-based Asian Development Bank (ADB), said the AIIB should function in line with international governance, labour and environmental standards.

"I hope the new bank will adhere to these standards," Nakao told Reuters in a phone interview.

He acknowledged there was an overlap of the AIIB's role with that of the ADB.

"But again, because of very big financing needs of the region it is understandable to have a new idea of establishing a bank," Nakao said, adding: "We will consider the appropriate collaboration after it is really established."

The ADB, created in 1966, offers grants and below-market interest rates on loans to lower to middle-income countries. At the end of 2013, its lending amounted to $21.02 billion, including co-financing with other development partners.

China has a 6.5 percent stake in the ADB, while the United States and Japan have about 15.6 percent each.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/25/14 11:39 AM

China, India launch new Asia Infrastructure Bank
http://thebricspost.com/china-india-launch-new-asia-infrastructure-bank/#.VEtgmyLF8uc

October 24, 2014,

Quote:
In a landmark achievement, 21 Asian nations including China and India on Thursday signed on a new infrastructure investment bank which would rival the World Bank.
The governments of Bangladesh, [censored] Darussalam, Cambodia, China, India, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Lao PDR, Malaysia, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Uzbekistan, Qatar, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Uzbekistan, Vietnam signed on as founding members of the new Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) in Beijing on Friday.

One of the first projects of the new Bank is expected to be financing infrastructure projects along the “Silk Road Economic Belt” and the “Maritime Silk Road” re-establishment.
Chinese Finance Minister Lou Jiwei said on Friday the “multi-national financial institution which is fair, just, open … with a good governance structure” will be an “efficient financing platform for infrastructure”.

Lou said the AIIB has a different focus than established multilateral organizations such as World Bank and Asian Development Bank (ADB).

China and other emerging economies, including BRICS, have long protested against their limited voice at other multilateral development banks, including the World Bank, International Monetary Fund and Asian Development Bank.

China is grouped in the ‘Category II’ voting bloc at the World Bank while at the Asian Development Bank, China with a 5.5 per cent share is far outdone by America’s 15.7 per cent and Japan’s 15.6 per cent share.

The ADB has estimated that in the next decade Asian countries will need $8 trillion in infrastructure investments to maintain the current economic growth rate.

Chinese President Xi Jinping had last October proposed to establish the AIIB to boost Asian economic integration and infrastructure projects like roads, railways, ports across the region. The new Bank has a capital target of more than $100 billion.

US allies Japan and Australia alongwith South Korea and Indonesia are notable absentees from the list of nations who signed up for the China-led Bank. The AIIB will extend China’s financial reach and compete not only with the World Bank, but also with the Asian Development Bank, which is heavily dominated by Japan.

In July, World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim said that he welcomed a new multilateral infrastructure bank, saying there was a “massive need” for new investment in this area.

The BRICS nations have already announced a $100 billion development bank during the 6th BRICS Summit in Brazil this year.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/27/14 02:27 PM

China allows direct trading between yuan, Singapore dollar

October 27, 2014

http://thebricspost.com/china-allows-direct-trading-between-yuan-singapore-dollar/#.VE4rFCLF8ud

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China on Monday announced it would allow direct trading between the renminbi and the Singapore dollar beginning Tuesday, a step that is likely to increase international usage of the yuan by lowering trading costs.

The Chinese government is gradually relaxing its hold over the yuan and making it a global reserve currency. China is also under pressure to diversify its foreign exchange reserves, which stood at $3.89 trillion at the end of June.

The announcement by China Foreign Exchange Trading System (CFETS) extended the yuan’s list of direct onshore trade to more major currencies, including the US dollar, Russian ruble, the euro, British sterling, Japanese yen, Australian dollar, New Zealand dollar, and Malaysian ringgit.

The move aims to boost bilateral trade and investment, facilitate the use of the two currencies in trade and investment settlement and reduce exchange costs for market players, the CFETS said in a statement on its website.

The yuan has staged a spectacular rise in recent years on the back of China’s economic ascent.

The move is also expected to help Singapore in its bid to become a renminbi offshore center.

According to the arrangement, China’s interbank foreign exchange market will kick off direct trading between the yuan and the Singapore dollar via spot, forward and swap contracts.

Previously, the exchange rate between the two currencies was calculated based on the yuan-US dollar central parity rate and the Singapore dollar-US dollar rate.

Beijing is keen on substituting the US dollar with the yuan in all of China’s trade with other countries.

China’s central bank on Monday authorized and welcomed the CFETS announcement, saying it is an important measure between the Chinese and Singaporean governments to jointly push forward bilateral and economic relations.

“The direct yuan-Singapore dollar trade is good for forming a direct exchange rate between the two currencies and reducing exchange costs,” the PBOC said in a statement on its website.

To boost the use of the yuan internationally, China has also signed multiple currency swap agreements totaling 2.9 trillion yuan $472 billion) with 26 overseas monetary authorities.

The PBOC has also authorized offshore renminbi clearing and settlement arrangements in Singapore, London, Frankfurt, Seoul, Paris and Luxembourg, as well as Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macao.

HSBC expects the yuan to be one of the top three global trade currencies by 2015.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/19/14 05:04 PM

New alliances and agreements and projects has been made these past months with the BRICS or/and China. I didn't think it was worthy of major news, however they are small steps towards the new banking and financial system that is currently being built.

Two major summit took place this month worth mentioning that I've included two good articles that I think provide good information of what has happened.

1. APEC(Asian Pacific Economic Cooperation) : It is an alliance between 21 Pacific nations which was initiated and led by China. The history and its membership can be read at this link. However Mystery Babylon thru Obama tried to create an alternative alliance by excluding China in creating the TPPA(Transpacific Partnership Agreement) in secret to give power to Mega-corporation over governments and laws. However, their TPPA plans did not work whereas the APEC meeting on Nov 8-10 2014 was very successful. Here’s an article describing the APEC event with the TPPA in mind. Many other sub-links are provided if you go to the source link of the article.

Did China Just Scupper the TPPA?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/12/obamas-setback-in-beijing/
By Dr Stuart Jeanne Bramhall
November 12th, 2014
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The Transpacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) is a secret free trade treaty Obama is negotiating with eleven other Asian Pacific countries (US, New Zealand, Australia, Malaysia, Japan, Chile, Peru, Canada, Mexico, Vietnam, Singapore and [censored]). The President had hoped to seal the deal at the recent Asian Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit in Beijing. Instead all 21 Pacific Rim countries have agreed to develop a roadmap for a Free Trade Area of the Asia-Pacific (FTAAP) treaty. The FTAAP would include China and Russia, whereas the TPPA excludes them.

China Deliberately Excluded

The TPPA is viewed as a centerpiece of Obama’s “strategic rebalancing” towards Asia. Also known as the “Asian pivot,” Obama’s intention is to counter China’s growing economic strength by isolating them economically and militarily.

The US has required the twelve countries participating in TPPA negotiations to sign a secrecy clause. Only corporations (i.e. the 600 corporations that helped write it) are allowed to see the text of the treaty. Not even Congress is permitted access. If Wikileaks hadn’t leaked large sections of the draft agreement, we wouldn’t even know it existed.


Is TPPA Really a Trade Treaty?

Scheduled to coincide with the APEC summit, November 8 was an International Day of Action against the TPPA, with major protests in New Zealand, Australia, Malaysia and the US. From the sections which have been leaked, it seems the TPPA isn’t a trade treaty at all. It’s really an investor protection treaty, granting corporations the right to sue countries for laws that potentially hurt their ability to make a profit. These lawsuits, involving hundreds of millions of dollars, would be heard by secret tribunals run by corporate lawyers. There would be no right of appeal.
In other words, the intent of the TPPA is to allow corporations to overturn the environmental, labor and healthy and safety laws and regulations of member countries. There’s even a special “transparency” clause inserted by the pharmaceutical industry that would allow them to challenge formularies (in the US this would include Medicaid and the VA) that promote cheaper generic medications.

If finalized, the TPPA would also allow oil and gas companies to overturn fracking bans, Monsanto to overturn GMO labeling laws, investment banks to overturn banking regulations and the telecommunications industry to overturn Net Neutrality laws.


Why the Secrecy?

It’s pretty obvious why Obama is trying to negotiate the TPPA in secret. Prior investor protection treaties (e.g. the Free Trade of the Americas Agreement) have gone down in flames thanks to massive public lashback, both in the US and in treaty partner countries.

Congress isn’t too happy, either, about being denied access to the draft TPPA treaty. In November 2013 Congress voted down Obama’s request for “fast track” authority on the TPPA. Fast track, otherwise known as Trade Promotion Authority, would require Congress to accept the final TPPA deal or reject it. No debate would be allowed on specific provisions.

There are rumors Obama plans to reintroduce TPPA fast track authority before Christmas, hoping for a better outcome with a new, pro-business Republican congress.
The POTUS also had hopes of ramming through an agreement on the TPPA treaty in Beijing, at a side meeting in the US embassy. It appears he did try and failed, as Pepe Escobar describes in a recent RT article Lame Duck Out of the Silk Trade Caravan.


The Effect on Australia and New Zealand

A trade deal that excludes China, their major trading partner, makes absolutely no sense for Australia and New Zealand. Kiwi and Aussie environmental and labor activists are also deeply concerned about signing an international agreement that allows multinational corporations to sue their governments in a secret corporate tribunal. They’ve worked damned hard to win laws and regulations guaranteeing minimal environmental, labor and health safety standards. If the TPPA goes through, these could all be wiped out with the stroke of a pen.


China Aims to Suppress US Influence in Asia

In an interview with Chinese media, Obama denies he was trying to isolate China by pressuring Asian Pacific countries to sign a secret trade deal that excludes them. Yet it’s pretty obvious to all concerned that’s exactly what he’s trying to do.

It’s also pretty clear that Chinese president Xi Jinping outmaneuvered him. In addition to getting all 21 APEC nations to sign onto an FTAAP feasibility study, China signed other trade deals geared towards reducing US dominance in the region.

On Monday the Chinese and Malaysian central banks signed a deal to establish a yuan clearing bank (to facilitate energy and other trade deals in local currencies rather than US dollars).

Russia and China signed a similar deal to conduct oil trades in rubles and yuan, rather than US dollars. According to Russian president Vladimir Putin, the new agreement will significantly reduce US influence over world energy markets.

Back in October,
Back in October, China launched the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank a rival to the US-dominated World Bank and Asian Development Bank.


2. G20 Summit : On Nov 15-16 the heads of 20 countries met in Brisbane Australia which included all of the BRICS(Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) countries who took the opportunity to meet on the side. Here’s an article by Pepe Escobar describing the event :

G20 in Australia: Buffoons v the Global South
November 17, 2014
By Pepe Escobar
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Here’s the G20 in Australia in a one-liner: a tiny bunch of Anglo-Saxon political buffoons attempts to drown out the Global South.

Countries representing over 85 percent of the world economy get together to (in theory) discuss some really heavy economic/financial issues, and virtually the only thing pitiful Western corporate media blabbers about is Russian President Vladimir Putin cutting an ‘isolated figure’.
Well, Washington and its string of puppets did try to turn the G20 into a farce. Fortunately the adults in the room had some business to do.

The five BRICS member-nations – despite their current problems, the G5 that really matters in the world - did meet before the summit, including the ‘isolated figure’. Economically, this G5 more than matches the old, decrepit G7.

Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff forcefully encouraged the G5 to turbo-charge their mutual cooperation – as well as South-South cooperation. That includes, of course, the BRICS Development Bank. The BRICS, stressing their ‘serious concern’, once again called Washington’s bluff – perpetually refusing to endorse much-delayed structural reform at the IMF.

The IMF quota and governance reform package was in fact approved by the IMF’s Board of Governors way back in 2010. One of its key resolutions was to increase the voting power of emerging markets, the BRICS at the forefront. For Republicans in Washington, this is worse than communism.

Chinese President Xi Jinping added that BRICS cooperation should not only boost the global economy, but also ensure global peace. Make trade, not tomahawks. The over 120 nations of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) – beggars in the G20 banquet - were paying very close attention.

So much ‘aggression’

Now compare the BRICS at work with EU heads of state meeting exclusively with US President Barack Obama to define their ‘strategy’ - not to improve the global economy, but to further demonize Russia.

And this after British Prime Minister David Cameron told Putin in a “robust” meeting he’s at a crossroads and about to be hit with more sanctions; Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper complained he had to shake Putin’s hand; and Australian Prime Minister Tony ‘Shirtfront’ Abbott got everyone to pose with koalas – talk about animal abuse - after apparently backing down on ‘shirtfronting’ the Russian leader.

And it was not only ‘Russian aggression’. Obama, Abbott and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe also met separately to increase “military cooperation” and “strengthen maritime security” in the Asia-Pacific. Against (what else?) “Chinese aggression.”

Imperial arrogance and buffoonery apart, Putin did meet with German Chancellor Angela Merkel for over three hours. They discussed Ukraine, essentially. No leaks. So Putin met and talked with all the adults that matter: the BRICS and Merkel. There was nothing else to do, business-wise.

In the Russian President’s own words: “It will take nine hours to fly to Vladivostok and another eight hours to get to Moscow. I need four hours sleep before I get back to work on Monday. We have completed our business.

Oh goodness. That was the cue for Western corporate media go absolutely bonkers spinning the ‘isolated figure’ fled the G20 in shame.


When in doubt, print money

Despite the Anglo-Saxon political gang’s every effort to debase the summit, some – minimalistic - work was done. Even Putin himself hailed the “constructive atmosphere.” More like constructive wishful-thinking atmosphere.

In the final communiqué, a promise was made to increase global GDP by a whopping $2 trillion by 2018. The crux of the magic plan is to facilitate investment in infrastructure, which creates jobs and improves global trade.

By the way, that’s exactly what China has been doing – en masse. China and Russia clinched two humongous gas deals worth $725 billion this year. The $40 billion Silk Road Investment Fund will finance development projects in seven nations across Central Asia. The ‘isolated figure’ has confirmed that Russia’s trade with China and the rest of Asia will rise from 25 percent to 40 percent of Russia’s GDP.

Moreover Russia, China, Iran – and soon other Asian nations – are actively on their way to establish their own currency-clearing systems, independent of the SWIFT system and the US dollar. Russia-China trade and investments are increasingly in rubles and yuan instead of USD. For the buffoons, this is worse than the Apocalypse.

The G20 communiqué also talks about a de facto, renewed neoliberal offensive – from “deregulation”in the markets for goods and services to “flexibility” in the labor market. A hazy global investment hub will be set up in Sydney, but no one really knows how it will work.

The G20 also insisted on the need to combat shadow banking. Pure wishful thinking – as monster shadow players/speculators/outright financial gangsters will prevent it. You’re not seriously going after sewage farms of the “pray to the US dollar, kneel to the Crown” Turks & Caicos kind, are you, boys?

Not surprisingly, every single reference about transparency in extractive industries totally disappeared from the final communiqué. As for climate change, more wishful thinking on “effective action” before the Paris conference in December 2015. Casinos of laundry money could be bet that nothing substantial will happen before or after the conference.

The Wahhabis of neoliberalism obviously derided the attempt by “deadbeat” Argentina to get the G20 to develop a supranational bankruptcy regime. After all, vulture funds of the Paul Singer variety should always be able to act like vultures.

In the end, the ‘isolated figure’ was back to heavy work Monday morning, Moscow time. The EU is set to lose at least 15 percent of $330 billion in trade with Russia in 2015 – while trade among the BRICS will double. The EU’s absolute debacle will continue to be caused to a large extent by neoliberalism. And the diktat by Washington/Wall Street elites that all instances of mixed economy in the EU must be shattered.

While the Fed ends its quantitative easing (QE), the ECB dreams of printing money like crazy, Japan’s Central Bank prints money like crazy and Russia and China buy oceans of physical gold. Under the print money smokescreen, the global economy will keep suffering.

Still, the Russian economy will keep integrating closer with China, Iran and Kazakhstan. The center of global investment and the heart of the action will continue to be – where else? – the Asia-Pacific. No wonder the G20 in 2016 will be hosted by China.

In other news, Pepe Mujica, Uruguay’s former president, did not go to the G20. But let him have the last word. He is stepping out of power. It takes a second to compare his personal dignity, honesty, humility, intelligence, courage, altruism and sound policies with the reckless buffoonery of the Cameron, Harper and Abbott mold.

There are politicians, and ‘politicians’. Fortunately, the overwhelming majority of global public opinion can see right through them.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/21/14 12:39 AM

Something worth mentioning is the G20 summit last weekend in Australia agreed to adopt new banking rules. It appears that the Babylonian leaders still wants to pull something before they are foreclosed on. We will see what the Lord have in mind to do about this.

Starting Nov 16th they want to turn our bank deposits into paper investments. It looks like they are setting up for the people's deposits to bail in banks debts. Here is what the following two articles explains :

WARNING Bank Deposits Will Soon No Longer Be Considered Money But Paper Investments

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/11/warning-bank-deposits-will-soon-no.html

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What does this mean?

Kenneth Schortgen Jr explains:
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This weekend the G20 nations will convene in Brisbane, Australia to conclude a week of Asian festivities that began in Beijing for the developed countries and major economies. And on Sunday, the biggest deal of the week will be made as the G20 will formally announce new banking rules that are expected to send shock waves to anyone holding a checking, savings, or money market account in a financial institution.

On Nov. 16, the G20 will implement a new policy that makes bank deposits on par with paper investments, subjecting account holders to declines that one might experience from holding a stock or other security when the next financial banking crisis occurs. Additionally, all member nations of the G20 will immediately submit and pass legislation that will fulfill this program, creating a new paradigm where banks no longer recognize your deposits as money, but as liabilities and securitized capital owned and controlled by the bank or institution.

In essence, the Cyprus template of 2011 will be fully implemented in every major economy, and place bank depositors as the primary instrument of the next bailouts when the next crisis occurs...

For most Americans with savings or checking accounts in federally insured banks, normal FDIC rules on deposit insurance are still in play, but anyone with over $250,000 in any one account, or held offshore, will have their money automatically subject to bankruptcy dispursements from the courts based on a much lower rank of priority, and a much lower percentage of return.

This also includes business accounts, money market accounts, and any depository investments such as a certificate of deposit (CD)...

after Sunday at the G20 meeting, the risks of holding any cash in a bank or financial institution will have to be weighed as heavily and with as much determination of risk as if you were holding a stock or municipal bond, which could decline in an instant should the financial environment bring a crisis even remotely similar to that of 2008.
From a technical perspective, this is moving in line with Murray Rothbard's perspective on "bank deposit insurance," which he saw as a scam:
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[F]ractional reserve banking proved shaky, and so the New Deal, in 1933, added the lie of "bank deposit insurance," using the benign word "insurance" to mask an arrant hoax. When the savings and loan system went down the tubes in the late 1980s, the "deposit insurance" of the federal FSLIC [Federal Savings and Loan Insurance Corporation] was unmasked as sheer fraud. The "insurance" was simply the smoke-and-mirrors term for the unbacked name of the federal government. The poor taxpayers finally bailed out the S&Ls, but now we are left with the formerly sainted FDIC [Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation], for commercial banks, which is now increasingly seen to be shaky, since the FDIC itself has less than one percent of the huge number of deposits it "insures."

The very idea of "deposit insurance" is a swindle; how does one insure an institution (fractional reserve banking) that is inherently insolvent, and which will fall apart whenever the public finally understands the swindle? Suppose that, tomorrow, the American public suddenly became aware of the banking swindle, and went to the banks tomorrow morning, and, in unison, demanded cash. What would happen? The banks would be instantly insolvent, since they could only muster 10 percent of the cash they owe their befuddled customers. Neither would the enormous tax increase needed to bail everyone out be at all palatable. No: the only thing the Fed could do, and this would be in their power, would be to print enough money to pay off all the bank depositors. Unfortunately, in the present state of the banking system, the result would be an immediate plunge into the horrors of hyperinflation.


Thus, the removal of protection for large depositors is eliminating the scam at this tier. It is, in other words, cutting down on moral hazard.

However, I do not suspect that the world's governments have suddenly found Jesus/Rothbard. I suspect what is going on here is that the government is fully aware that this change will create a separation between bank deposits and government securities. Government securities, especially short-term paper, will become a safer investment than large banks deposits. This will drive funds away from banks and private sector lending and push funds into the direction of government sponsored debt (where there will be continued back up for such debt of the money printing presses).


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Russell Napier Declares November 16, 2014 The Day Money Dies

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-12/russell-napier-declares-november-16-2014-day-money-dies

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It is with regret and sadness we announce the death of money on November 16th 2014 in Brisbane, Australia

‘A mark, a yen, a buck, or a pound
A buck or a pound
A buck or a pound
Is all that makes the world go 'round;
That clinking, clanking sound
Can make the world go 'round.’

“Money” from Cabaret by Kander & Ebb

In the musical Cabaret, Sally Bowles and the Emcee sing about money from the perspective of those witnessing its collapse in value in real terms in the great German hyperinflation of 1923.

Less than a decade later, and a continent away, a young lawyer from Youngstown, Ohio noted on July 25th 1932 how money’s value could also fall in nominal terms:

"A considerable traffic has grown up in Youngstown in purchase and sale at a discount of Pass-Books on the Dollar Bank, City Trust and Home Savings Banks. Prices vary from 60% to 70% cash. All of these banks are now open but are not paying out funds."
The Great Depression - A Diary: Benjamin Roth (first published 2009)

In Youngstown the bank deposit, an asset previously referred to as "money", had fallen by up to 40% relative to the value of cash. The G20 announcement in Brisbane on November 16th will formalize a "bail in" for large-scale depositors raising the spectre that their deposits are, as many were in 1932, worth less than banknotes. It will be very clear that the value of bank deposits can fall in nominal terms.

On Sunday in Brisbane the G20 will announce that bank deposits are just part of commercial banks’ capital structure, and also that they are far from the most senior portion of that structure. With deposits then subjected to a decline in nominal value following a bank failure, it is self-evident that a bank deposit is no longer money in the way a banknote is. If a banknote cannot be subjected to a decline in nominal value, we need to ask whether banknotes can act as a superior store of value than bank deposits? If that is the case, will some investors prefer banknotes to bank deposits as a form of savings? Such a change in preference is known as a "bank run."Each country will introduce its own legislation to effect the ‘ bail-in’ agreed by the G20 this coming weekend. The consultation document from the UK’s Treasury lists the following bank creditors who will rank ABOVE depositors in a ‘failing’ financial institution:

-Liabilities representing protected deposits (in the UK the government guarantee protects 100% of deposits up to the value of GBP85,000)
-any liability, so far as it is secured
-Liabilities that the bank has by virtue of holding client assets
-Liabilities arising with an original maturity of less than 7 days owed by the banks to a credit institution or investment firm
-Liabilities arising from participation in designated settlement systems
-Liabilities owed to central counterparties recognized by the European Securities and Markets Authorities… on OTC derivatives, central counterparties and trade depositaries
-Liabilities owed to an employee or former employee in relation to salary or other remuneration, except variable remuneration
-Liabilities owed to an employee or former employee in relation to rights under a pension scheme, except rights to discretionary benefits
-Liabilities owed to creditors arising from the provision to the bank of goods or service (other than financial services) that are critical to the daily functioning of its operations

The above list makes it clear that deposits larger than GBP85,000 will rank ahead of the bond holders of banks, but they will rank above little else. Importantly, both borrowings of the banks of less than 7 days maturity from other financial institutions and sums owed by banks in their role as counterparties to OTC derivatives will rank above large deposits.

Large deposits at banks are no longer money, as this legislation will formally push them down through the capital structure to a position of material capital risk in any "failing" institution. In our last financial crisis, deposits were de facto guaranteed by the state, but from November 16th holders of large-scale deposits will be, both de facto and de jure, just another creditor squabbling over their share of the assets of a failed bank.

Interestingly, HM Treasury uses the word ‘failing’ rather than "failed" in its consultation document and investors could find their large deposits frozen for a prolonged period in any "failing" institution while the courts unpick the capital structure and decide exactly where any losses should fall.

If we have another Lehman Brothers collapse, large-scale depositors could find themselves in the courts for years before final adjudication on the scale of their losses could be established. During this period would this illiquid asset, formerly called a deposit and now subject to an unknown capital loss, be considered money? Clearly it would not, as its illiquidity and likely decline in nominal value would make it unacceptable as a medium of exchange.

From November 16th 2014 the large-scale deposit at a commercial bank is, at best, a lesser form of money, and to many it will cease to be money at all as its nominal value can fall and it could cease to be accepted as a medium of exchange.

Fortunately, the developed world’s commercial banks are flush with central bank reserves and these are instantly convertible into the banknotes which they may need to meet demand from depositors. While the huge level of reserves on the balance sheet is a buffer, the funding of fractional reserve banks is still very negatively impacted by a shift from deposits to bank notes. With deflationary forces gathering momentum, this further impediment to the extension of commercial bank credit would be another factor preventing central bank monetary largesse translating into growth and inflation.

As the world’s smartest lawyer Charlie Munger is fond of saying, "Show me the incentive and I will show you the outcome." Some simple mathematics reveals that the November 16th announcement will create a very major incentive for investors to change deposits into banknotes.

Consider that the standard pallet measures 1 metre by 1.2 metres and will take 84 piles of Euro 500 banknotes. The UK’s Health and Safety Executive recommends that the height of a pallet should not exceed the widest side of its base. A 1.2 metre high pile of banknotes contains 11,000 notes and thus each pallet can safely hold 84 piles of 11,000 banknotes. A pallet of safely stacked 924,000 Euro 500 banknotes is therefore worth Euro462m.

There is a small warehouse for rent near Newry, at the foot of the Mourne Mountains in Northern Ireland. Given its dimensions (16.5m x 9.0m x 5.6m) one could stack 468 pallets of 500 Euro notes representing Euro 216bn. At the current bank deposit rate of minus 50bp per annum, the cost of carry to have Euro 216bn on deposit with a commercial bank would be Euro 1,081m. The annual cost of the warehousing space is around Euro 7,000!

Now clearly this warehouse will need significant private security, but in Northern Ireland there is an over supply of such security due to a structural change in market conditions, and prices are reasonable. Anyway, just how much security could you afford if you charged clients 20bp to hold their Euro 216bn, and generated an annual fee of Euro432 million, with an annual saving to your clients of about Euro 648 million?

This represents both a yield improvement and a significant improvement in capital risk compared to bank deposits, as bank notes cannot be "bailed in." There is therefore an annual profit of around Euro432 million for the manager with a warehouse and friends in low places. Anyone for the "Mourne Or Newry Enhanced Yield Banknote Actively Guarded Security", or MONEY BAGS for short?

As ever, there is a first-mover advantage. There are only about 600 million 500 Euro notes available, though sizeable arbitrage profits still exist on warehouses full of 200 Euro notes. As the function of such warehouses is focused on the role of money as a store of value, a role no longer fulfilled by the large-scale deposit, one should expect a premium to develop, and potentially a secondary market in note-filled, well-protected warehouses. For warehouses full of German Euro notes --- those are the ones with a serial number beginning in X --- a particularly high premium may arise due to risks of a future Euro break-up.

Irish legend tells of an X at the end of the rainbow marking the position of a pot of gold. In our post- Brisbane world, investors may be content to find just a bundle of paper marked with an X.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/21/14 03:33 PM

Russia to launch alternative to SWIFT bank transaction system in spring 2015

http://rt.com/business/204459-russia-swift-payment-alternative/

November 11, 2014
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Russia intends to have its own international inter-bank system up and running by May 2015. The Central of Russia says it needs to speed up preparations for its version of SWIFT in case of possible ”challenges” from the West.

"Given the challenges, Bank of Russia is creating its own system for transmitting financial messaging... It’s time to hurry up, so in the next few months we will have certain work done. The entire project for transmitting financial messages will be completed in May 2015," said Ramilya Kanafina, deputy head of the national payment system department at the Central Bank of Russia (CBR).

Calls not to use the SWIFT (Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication) system in Russian banks began to grow as relations between Russia and the West deteriorated over sanctions. So far, SWIFT says despite pressure from some Western countries to join the anti-Russian sanctions, it has no intention of doing so.

READ MORE: SWIFT: 'No authority' to suspend Russia, Israel from intl payments over sanctions

Ramilya Kanafina says the system will meet all the market requirements due to its security. A center for processing messages in SWIFT format is in the process of development. It is expected that all messaging options will be operating by December 2014, she added.

The National Payments Council, a non-profit partnership comprising members of the Russian national payment system, proposed establishing a Russian version of SWIFT 100 percent owned by Bank of Russia in September.

SWIFT, is currently one of Russia’s main connections to the international banking system, and if turned off, could hurt the Russian economy, in the short-term. Globally it transmits orders for transactions worth more than $6 trillion, and involves more than 10,000 financial institutions in 210 countries. According to SWIFT’s statute, the system has national groups of members and users in each country. In Russia it’s ROSSWIFT - the second biggest worldwide SWIFT association after the US.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/24/14 04:57 PM

De-Dollarization: Is BRICS a Viable Alternative to the U.S. Dominated World Economic System?

http://www.globalresearch.ca/is-brics-a-...-system/5415375

By Asad Ismi and Peter Koenig
Global Research, November 22, 2014
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Economist and Geopolitical analyst Peter Koenig talks to Asad Ismi

1. Is BRICS (Brazil, Russia, China, India and South Africa) a viable alternative to the present U.S.-dominated world economic system and does it have the potential to replace it? Are we witnessing the birth of a new international economic order in BRICS and the Russia-China energy deal?

The BRICS have a great potential to become a viable alternative to the dollar dominated economic system. The creation of the BRICS development bank is an indication in this direction. The bank could temporarily even act as a BRICS Central Bank and when the time comes issue a new BRICS currency, for example the Bricso. Together the BRICS account for almost 30% of world GDP and for about 45% of the world population. However, the US is using any means they can to destabilize the BRICS one by one. Take Brazil, though Dilma Rousseff has won easily the first round of elections, but after Washington’s slandering her government for corruption and high indebtedness – the usual non-substantiated arguments – her campaign had to work hard until reason prevailed. I’m confident, people’s trust will confirm her in the second round.

There is a massive effort of de-dollarization going on by the BRICS, led by Russia and China, the two strongest BRICS members. Since June 2014 regular and sizable ruble – yuan swaps have taken place to free the two countries from the traditional trading currency, the US dollar. In early July this year, after meeting with Vladimir Putin, Elvira Nabiullina, Governor of the Russian Central Bank, declared in an international media event, just before her impending meeting with the Governor of the Central Bank of China in Beijing, “We are discussing with China and our BRICS partners the establishment of a system of multilateral swaps that will allow to transfer resources to one or another country, if needed. A part of the currency reserves can be directed to [the new system]“, – thus announcing the emergence of an international anti-dollar alliance.

This signals the beginning of a new monetary system which eventually will issue its own currency, possibly a basket of currency, akin to the Special Drawing Rights (SDR) of the IMF that could gradually replace the dollar as a reserve currency. This is in fact already happening. Ten years ago, the world’s reserves consisted to about 90% of dollar denominated securities. Today that figure has shrunk to 60%.

Indeed it is high time that a new monetary and economic system replaces the current FED-BIS (Bank for International Settlement)-Wall Street dollar denominated predatory casino scheme that has in the last 100 years alone largely contributed to – and benefitted from – two world wars, impoverished our planet, socially and environmentally. This system is at the verge of a larger abyss than the depression of the 1930s.

The global amount of outstanding derivatives is estimated way above 700 trillion dollars – global GDP is about US$ 72.6 trillion (est. 2014). Five of the largest US banks alone have each more than 40 trillion in derivative exposure. If they decide to call in their debt at one or in part, it would for sure create a worldwide tsunami with a resulting collapse of our western monetary system. Today 6 US banks control two thirds of all banking assets (in 2008 the figure was just over 40%).

Add to this calamity that in 2008 the too-big-to-fail banks were ‘bailed out’ by public money, according to the new Todd-Frank banking Act, future insolvent banks have to rescue themselves by ‘bail-ins’ – confiscating money from depositors and shareholders. A similar law has recently been approved by the European Commission (EC). – The world at large can only hope that a new monetary system will emerge soon to reign in the atrocities of our western greed economy.

2. How will the BRICS system be better for the Global South than the U.S. one?

A “BRICS system” would offer a healthy alternative to the highly indebted and defunct dollar system, where money is printed at will. It would be detached from the Wall Street – BIS clearing system (SWIFT) and would allow trading in countries’ own moneys with currency swap arrangements between respective central banks. Today, though steadily declining, most trading is still denominated in dollars and has to transit through a US bank and the BIS clearing system. Under the FED-BIS-WS banking system currencies – and gold – are subject to exchange rate and interest manipulations.

For example, the ruble has lost 22% of its value since the beginning of 2014 and 15% in the last quarter alone. There is no economic reason for that, other than anti-Russia propaganda and currency manipulation, since the Russian economy is despite the ridiculous ‘sanctions’ on more solid ground than that of the US. Call it ‘sanctions’ – if you will – for not bending to the political demands of Washington on Ukraine. The western MSM would like you to believe that this is the result of the Russian caused Ukraine crisis which is driving investors away. Western media continue to ignore that Kiev’s gang of thugs, a Nazi government, was created and is supported and funded by Washington and its western puppets.

In the meantime, the BRICS and some other countries, including Argentina, have started denominating their contracts and trading in local currencies already some time ago, thereby considerably circumventing exposure to the fraudulent dollar system. A solid alternative currency may also become an alternative reserve currency – a deed for which countries around the world, especially China, Russia and India, have called for years.

Recently Beijing has offered the EU to deal with China directly through respective central banks’ currency swaps, thereby avoiding the oppressive claws of the dollar. Outrageous penalties, like the 9 billion dollar ‘fine’ to the French BNP-Paribas for dealing with sanctioned Iran might not have happened if the US would not have had a claw on the French bank because of its obligation to transit – and hold accounts – in the US banking system.

3. What is the potential for a BRICS currency to replace the U.S. dollar?

The chances are good that a BRICS currency, or let’s call it a solid alternative currency based on the combined economy of sound nations will eventually displace the dollar as ‘world currency’ – in other words as currency of reference and major reserve currency. Once the new money is established with a secure exchange and transaction system, replacing SWIFT, it is very likely that many countries that so far do not dare abandoning the dollar – for fear of sanctions – might join the new money pool, thereby strengthening it. As I said before, it is high time that the currency of worldwide theft, abuse and exploitation – the US dollar – financial instrument for endless wars and economic terrorism, be replaced with a currency of peaceful endeavors that respects national sovereignty – a currency that works for the people, not for the elite of a few.

4. To what extent will the recent Russia-China energy deal undermine the U.S. dollar? Will China pay for Russian gas in
Yuan and not the dollar?


The Russia –China US$ 400 billion energy deal, signed in May this year will by 2018 have some 38 billion cubic meters of gas flow through the so-called ‘Holy Grail’ pipeline from the largest gas producer, Russia, to the largest energy user, China – is many things at once: it is, of course a symbolic step in the process of decoupling hydrocarbon trading from the dollar, as it foresees payments in local currencies, rubles and yuan. It sidesteps the traditional dollar denomination for hydrocarbon trading. It is symbolic, because Russia’s total hydrocarbon trading per year alone amounts to about one trillion dollars. But it is a demonstration to the world that Russia and China, at the verge of war in the 1960s, are morphing into a strong alliance in trade, politics and defense. In that sense yes, the gas deal is clearly undermining the dollar.

Prior to the signing of this gas treaty, during a special meeting on 24 April, Russian Deputy Prime Minister, Igor Shuvalov, declared that in the future Russian enterprises will be subject to a “currency switch executive order”, under which a certain percentage of contracts will be denominated in rubles. Whether and when the level will reach 100% is largely a question of the partners’ willingness to deal in ruble. This directive has been enhanced by Russiya Bank’s parallel declaration that the ruble is fully backed by gold.

5. What is the significance of the $100 billion development bank set up by BRICS? Can it replace the World Bank? How will it be better for the Global South than the World Bank?

For now it is a symbolic step away from the Washington Consensus of the WB and IMF neoliberal approach to development financing – away from privatizing of public goods and services, like water supply and health and education services – I would hope.

The development bank is not yet operational, but from my understanding will likely concentrate on infrastructure development and enhancement (transportation, energy distribution, telecommunication and so on), energy exploration and exploitation, including alternative clean energy – and social services.

The BRICS development bank may initially also serve as a BRICS central bank, especially in case of issuing a combined currency; and perhaps also take over some of the roles pertaining to the IMF, like balance of payment assistance – hopefully with human rather than with the IMFs draconian conditions.

Remember, today China is clearly in the BRICS driver’s seat with an interest to harvest the benefits of the group’s synergies and comparative advantages, a collection of countries geographically and culturally apart and distributed around the globe. Their relationships and trading among each other may make the benefits for each larger than the sum of its parts.

Whether the new BRICS development bank will eventually replace the WB and maybe the IMF depends largely on the way the new bank sees economic development, whether their policies and fields of action are attractive to borrowers and address their people’s demands. – That means that people clearly do not like to see their corrupt leaders becoming richer, while their water and sanitation services are being privatized, their natural resources being exploited by foreign corporations for a pittance and their government operations being ‘structurally adjusted’, leaving masses of people jobless, their social safety nets being abolished or stolen, with reduced wages and pensions. These neoliberal pro-cyclical policies should definitely not be part of the new BRICS economic development bank.

6. Please comment on the significance of the recent meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and its expansion to include India, Pakistan and Iran.

The 13th annual summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization – SCO – held in Dushanbe, Tajikistan on 11-12 September, may be a hammer for the west. It was attended by the heads of state of Russia, President Putin, China, President Xi Jingpen and Iran, President Rouhani. The group’s membership, currently consisting of China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan is poised to be expanded to include India, Pakistan and Iran. Mongolia is another likely candidate.

The Oriental Review, an Open Dialogue Research Journal, reports, “The reasoning behind the need for expansion is obvious. If the SCO is to have real weight on the international arena and become a truly prestigious organization that is able to rival NATO, it requires additional members. If India, Pakistan, Iran and Mongolia were all to become permanent members, which looks likely, the group would then control 20 percent of the world’s oil and half of all global gas reserves. On top of that, the bloc would represent about half of the world’s population. This would fortify SCO’s reputation as a dominant organization. Additionally, Turkey could become a member as well. Its leadership has long been seeking to join and Turkish-speaking governments are likely to support their petition.”

If Turkey, a NATO member, would join the SCO, this would clearly be a conflict and nail in NATO’s coffin – a blow to western powers.

The journal goes on – “The aggressive nature of Western actions towards Russia has certainly united the SCO members. What links them all – whether members or observers – is the rejection of Western-dominated institutions, such as the World Bank or the International Monetary Fund, which are all US-based. The SCO, like the BRICS with their Development Bank, sees itself as a forum against the Western dominated global order.”

The SCO summit concluded that economic cooperation between members should be enhanced, which includes further economic integration. The concept bodes particularly well for China’s idea of a new Silk Road Economic Belt that might expand westwards to include Germany, as per a personal proposal of President Xi to Madame Merkel in March 2014.

Hence, the Oriental Review concludes and I concur, the ambition to create a truly dominant organization free of any Western influence may become a reality in the near future. I would like to add – this cannot happen fast enough in order to stop US-led western aggressions and financial terrorism around the world.

7. Are the recent U.S. war moves in Syria, Iraq and Ukraine and the U.S. pivot to Asia aimed at preventing the consolidation of alliances such as BRICS?

These moves – or rather military aggressions – have multiple purposes. A primary purpose is ‘regime change’ of all those governments which do not align with Washington’s imperial ideology. In the Middle East, and elsewhere for that purpose, the idea is to sow chaos and strive between different ethnic groups and religions. Make no mistake, the ISIS, the latest so-called ‘terror caliphate’, and all its predecessors – were and are all created and funded by Washington. Their purpose is to destabilize countries and then to justify US intervention to ‘salvage’ what’s left of the mess.

In other words, to bring about ‘regime change’ – just see the recent turmoil in Iraq and Syria – and to some extent also Ukraine. In Ukraine the White House literally orchestrated a coup in February this year and installed, financed and armed a regime of Nazi thugs in Kiev which is now committing the most atrocious war crimes in the eastern Ukraine Donbass area, killing thousands of civilians – so far more than 3,700 – mostly women and children and causing a flood of so far more than 1.2 million refugees into Russia. In this latter case the ‘pivot’ to Asia is expanding NATO basis ever closer to Moscow’s doorstep – and to take over – like in looting – an extremely resource rich country that has been the cradle of historic Russia. Obviously, Mr. Putin, the Kremlin and the Russian people do not like to see this vicious take-over of their brothers and sisters and their ancient lands.

But there is more to destabilizing the BRICS and the pivot to Asia — practically maneuvering of Ukraine into civil war, planting chaos in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria — than meets the eye. It is the end game, full spectrum dominance – the full achievement of the PNAC (Plan for a New American Century) – meaning complete control of the world’s resources, people and economies. Already in the 1970s Henry Kissinger, one of the patriarchs of elitist and neoliberal thinking and perhaps the greatest war criminal still alive, spoke these infamous words, “Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world”. These words resonate today stronger than ever.

8. How fragile is the U.S. economy? ls it in danger of collapsing soon due to its heavy debt load?

The US economy is as fragile as can be. It is basically a balloon of hot air, ready to implode. This is partly due to its enormous debt – 105% of GDP (US$ 17 trillion, est.2014) – and unmet obligations – 127 trillion, about 8 times GDP; no other country in the world has this level of actual debt and foreseen but uncovered obligations.

Today the economy of the United States is a mere house of cards. It consists to more than 50% of the war and security industry and related services and industries. In other words, the US has a GDP of destruction – with the hope that after a country has been destroyed to rubble, its citizens killed or reduced to misery – US corporations will be called to rebuild and rescue what’s left. As per Robert Zoellick, former World Bank President ….. “As in Iraq, we hope to be part of rebuilding Libya, when the war ends” – and we all know who controls the World Bank.

As the world at large takes gradually note of the emptiness of the US economy, of the nakedness of the US emperor, so to speak, people and countries are wishing and hoping – some are even calling – for an alternative monetary and economic system, as their reserves and international contracts are in peril.

Adding to the fragility of the US economy is its banking system. As mentioned before, it is again at the verge of a collapse – this time with considerably more serious consequences than in 2008 of which repercussions are still felt today around the globe – 6 years later. – Many ‘expert’ estimates predict a stock market slump of up to 70% in the very foreseeable future, vs. about 50% in 2008. Consequences of unemployment, housing dispossessions, hunger and disease – sheer misery are unfathomable.

However, there is a strong feeling that these cyclical economic collapses and disasters are not just unpredictable random events inherent in our economic system. They are rather planned events – planned by the masters of the system – the FED, Wall Street, BIS, the financiers of this world – so that the rich can get richer and the poor will get poorer. This phenomenon was already observed during the economic slump of the 1930s. The middle class is diminishing. The abyss between rich and poor grows worldwide – towards a world of a distinct corporate and finance elite and a mass of serfs to scurry about complying with the wishes and desires of the masters.

But it’s not too late. We the People can stop it. We must wake up and become conscious.

9. Is there anything else you consider important and would like to add?

People beware of the Mass Media and their outrageous lies!

The Mainstream Media, or commonly called MSM, is a weapon as criminal and killing as the US / NATO war machine with its European puppets. The MSM are in the hands of 6 giant Judo-Anglo-Saxon media corporations. They literally control 90% of the information officially dished out to the common citizen. Their news are copied and replicated throughout the world, translated into whatever language is suitable and needed.

They work and are paid for the financial and corporate elite, especially the military / security and financial complex. – They dupe people into believing that they are in pursuit of peace, protecting you from terror, preventing villains like Russia and China from taking over the world, when in reality it is thanks to Russian and Chinese diplomacy and economic pressures that the world has so far escaped WWIII.

Already Goebbels, Hitler’s Propaganda Minister, said – A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth.

That’s the level of lying we are exposed at today – far surpassing Orwell’s 1984 doomsday scenario. Our thinking has been brainwashed and manipulated to the point where a lie is more comfortable and easier to believe than the truth.

There are few media that are worth watching or listening to. One of them is TeleSur of South America, with home in Venezuela. It broadcasts around the world, has top reporters and journalists stationed and reporting directly from the hotspots, with in-depth analyses, connecting the dots and areas of interest – something that is hard to find these days. TeleSur can be seen in most of the Southern Hemisphere, including in parts of the US, and everywhere on internet.

We have to wake up – awaken to a consciousness of peace and solidarity – seeking the truth from uncommon sources, like the present one, TeleSur and others on internet, rather than submitting to the steady drip of indoctrination by the mainstream media.

Becoming conscious of people, societies, the environment – the truth around us – that’s my wish for humanity.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/24/14 06:28 PM

I thought this was a good historical point of view written by Michael Rivero that can be viewed on you-tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4 or read at http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php.

My side comments : Many informed SDAs think the wars are by the Jesuits which many of us interprete to be the second beast from the earth still being the RCC. I think these two beasts are different for in all prophecies prior, all new beasts that arised where different entities.

The Jesuit was started by Loyola who was a spaniard Marranos (Jewish sect) that were forced to convert into Christianity. So they infiltrated the RCC Church via the Jesuits front pretext. My view and understanding are that the RCC was the first beast coming from the water and certain families of a certain Jewish sect that were "good" with money & banking having many disquises are the second beast coming from the earth that has made an "unholly alliance" with the RCC & the Royal monarchy in Europe prior to 1815 Holy Alliance(read more here and here.

Anyway below is a good summary of Michael Rivero's "All Wars are Banker's wars" written By Dr Stuart Jeanne Bramhall

All Wars are Bankers’ Wars

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/20/all-wars-are-bankers-wars/

By Dr Stuart Jeanne Bramhall

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"There are two ways to conquer and to enslave a nation. One is by the sword. the other is by DEBT." John Adams

The purpose of war, according to this brief documentary by radio host Michael Rivero, is to force central banks on countries that try to issue their own money. He makes a compelling argument, illustrated by numerous historical examples. The film’s main value, in my view, is in dispelling common misconceptions about where money comes from. Contrary to popular belief, western democracies don’t issue the money they use to run government services. They borrow the money at interest from privately owned central banks. In the US, this private central bank is called the Federal Reserve.


The American Revolution

Rivero begins by quoting Benjamin Franklin, who saw George III’s Currency Act as the main trigger for the American Revolution. The Currency Act prohibited colonists from using colony-issued currency. Instead they were required to use English bank notes. The latter were borrowed at interest from the England’s private central bank, the Bank of England. This interest payment amounted to a de facto tax on each and every financial transaction.

After the Revolution, the new American government returned to issuing its own currency. This ended in 1791, when Alexander Hamilton persuaded Congress to appoint a private central bank to finance government services. The First Bank of the United States was funded (at interest) by the Bank of England, which was controlled by Nathan Mayer Rothschild.


The War of 1812

Plagued by inefficiency and corruption, the First Bank of the United States was so unpopular that Congress ignored Rothschild’s threats and refused to renew its charter in 1811. Rothschild, whose control over British money enabled him to control both the economy and Parliament, had warned that Britain would declare war to re-colonize the US unless Congress renewed the charter. Although the US won the War of 1812, they were forced to charter the Second Bank of the United State in 1816 to repay their massive war debt. American’s second central bank lasted until 1832, when voters returned Andrew Jackson to a second term based on a campaign promise to shut it down.


The Civil War

From 1832-1862, the so-called “free banking era,” all banks were state charted. In 1862 Lincoln created a national system of banks to fund the federal government and issue currency.
When he authorized the US Treasury to issue $150 million in interest-free “greenbacks,” the London Times called for the destruction of the US because of the major threat this posed to the global economy (i.e. international bankers). To punish Lincoln, England and (and France) would provide financial and material support to the southern Confederacy.

Government-issued currency ended for good in when the Wall Street banks conspired with Woodrow Wilson to create a permanent (private) central bank. The Federal Reserve Act was written in secret by the US banking establishment and rammed through Congress during the 1913 Christmas recess.


World War I and II

According to Rivero, World War I was also a banker’s war, intended to punish Germany for the strict limitations it imposed on its central bank. At the end of World War I, the Treaty of Versailles forced Germany to repay all the war debts of the other European countries, even though Germany hadn’t started the war.

Crushed by this war debt, the only way Hitler could salvage the German economy was to abolish Germany’s central bank and return to interest-free government-issued currency. This move, which infuriated international bankers, resulted in rapid Germany re-industrialization when the rest of the developed world was mired in deep economic depression. It was lauded internationally as the “German miracle.”

Meanwhile in 1933, American bankers and industrialists plotted a “Bankers’ Putsch,” an attempted military coup against Roosevelt. Their goal was to install corporate fascism in the US, along the lines of Mussolini’s government in Italy. General Smedley Butler, the war hero they enlisted to lead the coup, foiled it by exposing it to the House McCormick-Dirkson Committee. The largely pro-business committee instituted a cover-up, until journalist John Spivac uncovered their secret report in 1967.


Breton Woods

In 1946, following World War II, forty-four nations signed an agreement at Breton Woods New Hampshire for the US dollar to replace the British pound as the world’s reserve currency. This was done with two stipulations: 1) that the US dollar would be redeemable for gold at a price of $35 an ounce and 2) that the Federal Reserve wouldn’t issue more dollars than they could redeem in gold.

Because the Federal Reserve is a private banking network, the federal government has no control whatsoever over the quantity of US dollars they issue. In 1971, it became obvious that the Fed was issuing far more dollars than it could redeem (the vast majority of money the Fed creates is electronic money – only about 3% is in notes and coins*). When France asked to redeem its dollar reserves for gold, Nixon unilaterally suspended the gold standard agreed at Breton Woods.


The Birth of the Petrodollar

At this point the US dollar became a “fiat” currency, theoretically back by nothing. In reality, it was backed by oil, through a complex agreement whereby the US agreed to “defend” countries (i.e. not destabilize or declare war on them) if they committed to buying and selling oil in dollars, aka “petrodollars.”

According to Rivero, the US invasion against a long list of Muslim countries is an indirect result of this agreement. Islam prohibits lending money at interest. As Rivero points out, none of seven Muslim countries retired General Wesley Clark has identified as targets for US military aggression (Iraq, Iran, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Lebanon) had private central banks prior to US invasion and occupation.**
Historical Inaccuracies

Apart from several minor historical inaccuracies (eg the purpose of Executive Order 11110 that John Kennedy signed in 1961 and Nixon’s alleged pledge of the National Park system as security on US debt), the film serves as an excellent introduction to the hidden role played by private banks in issuing and controlling the global money supply.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/27/14 03:40 PM

Grandmaster Putin's Golden Trap

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2006/01-2006/grandmaster-putins-golden-trap/

by Stephen Jones

Nov 26, 2014

"The financial war between the US and Russia has been going on for some years, but it became an overt war last March. Neither side wants a nuclear war (we hope), but when the US slapped Russia with economic sanctions--and forced Europe to doing the same--the war officially began for all to see.

News accounts in the mainstream media tell us Obama's strategy of sanctions against Russian businesses and businessmen and politicians and banks from buying goods from the West. This has hurt Russia to some extent, but the real losers are the European companies that had sold their goods to Russian buyers. Russia is now turning to China to buy those goods, leaving the Europeans looking more and more like the ones being sanctioned.

A very insightful article has now appeared, showing Putin's grand strategy. I have wondered for months why Putin doesn't just demand gold or even euros in payment for oil and gas being piped to European countries. Such a strategy would seem logical in a financial war. Well, the article below tells us that this is exactly what Putin is doing... sort of.

Instead of demanding payment in gold, Putin is simply converting all dollar sales into gold purchases. That way, Putin can keep up appearances that he accepts the petro-dollar alive, while, in fact, the net result is that the dollar is being rejected under the table. In the third quarter of 2014 Russia purchased 55 tons of gold--more than all the other nations put together (by official reports).

http://www.gold-eagle.com/article/grandmaster-putins-golden-trap

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Very few people understand what Putin is doing at the moment. And almost no one understands what he will do in the future.

No matter how strange it may seem, but right now, Putin is selling Russian oil and gas only for physical gold.

Putin is not shouting about it all over the world. And of course, he still accepts US dollars as an intermediate means of payment. But he immediately exchanges all these dollars obtained from the sale of oil and gas for physical gold!

To understand this, it is enough to look at the dynamics of growth of gold reserves of Russia and to compare this data with foreign exchange earnings of the RF coming from the sale of oil and gas over the same period....

Thus, in exchange for Russian oil, gas and uranium, the West pays Russia with dollars, purchasing power of which is artificially inflated against oil and gold by the efforts (manipulations) of the West. However, Putin uses these dollars only to withdraw physical gold from the West in exchange at a price denominated in US dollars, artificially lowered by the same West.

This truly brilliant economic combination by Putin puts the West led by the United States in a position of a snake, aggressively and diligently devouring its own tail....

How long will the West be able to buy oil and gas from Russia in exchange for physical gold?

And what will happen to the US petrodollar after the West runs out of physical gold to pay for Russian oil, gas and uranium, as well as to pay for Chinese goods?

No one in the west today can answer these seemingly simple questions.

And this is called "Checkmate", ladies and gentlemen. The game is over.


The article goes on to tell us that China is not only backing Russia by ignoring the sanctions, but is also using the same strategy against the US dollar. China has made the decision to freeze the level of US dollars in its reserve. Since China exports five times as much as it imports from the US, this means that the dollars they earn are also going into something else. Its excess dollars are being converted to gold, and the gold pipeline from West to East continues.

This will continue until the COMEX can no longer fill its orders for gold (and silver). Then someone will proclaim "Check Mate," and life will suddenly become quite different."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/30/14 06:55 PM

China must speak up for developing countries: Xi

http://thebricspost.com/china-must-speak-up-for-developing-countries-xi/#.VHs7NdLF8uc

November 30, 2014

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In a key foreign policy address to the Central committee of the ruling CPC, Chinese President Xi Jinping has underlined the importance of Beijing championing the cause of the developing countries.

We are firm in our position that all countries, regardless of their size, strength and level of development, are equal members of the international community and that the destiny of the world should be decided by people of all countries. We should uphold international justice and, in particular, speak up for developing countries,” said Xi.

In 2014, China has launched a new Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) with 21 Asian nations, a $100 billion BRICS Bank and a $40 Silk Road investment fund, all geared towards giving a bigger say to BRICS and emerging economies in international economic affairs.

The Chinese President was speaking in Beijing on Friday and Saturday at a conference on foreign affairs presided over by the Chinese Premier Li Keqiang.

“We should advance multilateral diplomacy, work to reform the international system and global governance, and increase the representation and say of China and other developing countries,” Xi was quoted by Chinese state agency Xinhua.

Developing economies like the BRICS have long alleged that the IMF and World Bank impose belt-tightening policies in exchange for loans while giving them little say in deciding terms.

The IMF reforms have hit a serious roadblock with the Barack Obama administration failing to push IMF quota reforms through the US Congress till now.

Apart from Xi, the Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and top Communist leaders, China’s ambassador to the US also spoke at the conference.

The Chinese President also pledged to push for a world free of domination by any superpower, without mentioning the US.

“We should be fully mindful of the complexity of the evolving international architecture, and we should also recognize that the growing trend toward a multi-polar world will not change,” Xi said on Saturday in Beijing.

“We should be keenly aware of the protracted nature of contest over the international order; on the other hand, we need to recognize that the direction of reform of the international system will remain unchanged,” said the Chinese leader.

China has reservations about a much-hyped Asia pivot as Washington seeks to expand American interests in Asia as a counterpoint to China’s growing influence.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/02/14 01:35 AM

My Comments : We see a constant trend to by-pass the US dollar. Here's another one.

China, S.Korea launch won-yuan market in Seoul
http://thebricspost.com/china-s-korea-launch-won-yuan-market-in-seoul/#.VHztDdLF8uc

December 1, 2014
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In efforts to boost China-South Korea trade and increase the use of the yuan in Korea, the two countries on Monday launched an offshore trading hub in Seoul for China’s yuan currency.

The two currencies can now trade directly, cutting out the US dollar.

Monday’s establishment of the won-yuan market is expected to help reduce appreciation pressure for the Korean currency against the US dollar by curbing inflows.

“The won-yuan direct trading market is like a new start-up with high potential. We will nurture this start-up into a world-class competitive hidden champion,” South Korean Finance Minister Choi Kyung- hwan said in Seoul on Monday at the opening.

China is South Korea’s largest trading partner, with bilateral trade amounting to $230 billion in 2013.

China is promoting the use of its currency as an alternative to the dollar in global trade and finance and more and more nations now want to capture the fast-growing market for offshore trade in yuan, also known as the renminbi.

The Chinese currency is already traded directly against the US dollar, the euro, the Japanese yen, the British pound, the Aussie and New Zealand dollars, Russia’s rouble, the Singapore dollar and Malaysia’s ringgit. Yuan settlement in trade surging from 2.06 trillion yuan in 2012 to 3.01 trillion yuan in 2013 worldwide.

Earlier this year, South Korea won an 80 billion yuan ($12.9 billion) quota for domestic investors to buy securities in China under the Renminbi Qualified Foreign Institutional Investor program.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/08/14 08:30 PM

Well, maybe some of what you copy and paste here has some validity. I just heard on the news that China has surpassed the U.S. as the, and I forgot the exact term he used, but something like the leading nation.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/09/14 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Well, maybe some of what you copy and paste here has some validity. I just heard on the news that China has surpassed the U.S. as the, and I forgot the exact term he used, but something like the leading nation.

News? On the Mainstream Media (MSM) News? I am surprise that you heard something like that there. Maybe it was a guest who expessed his opinion, but that wasn't MSM's opinion right? My expectation of MSM is they will lie till the end. But I may be wrong.

Anyway, I think the month of December will be quiet as it is holiday time. What I'm hearing from the Royal Chinese Families is they are hoping to declare a Worldwide Jubilee by the Chinese New Year which is January 28th. We'll see what will materialized by then.

What I get is the Royal Families are not in a hurry to destroyed the current Banking system all at once, but from what I'm understanding from their spokeperson it will take another 2-3 years before Babylon's corrupt Banking system will totally be replaced with the new. It will be a gradual process to ensure a healthy worldwide transition.

I see this lining up perfectly with the 7 times (2520 years) dates given post#161945 that ends up in end of 2016 which is the end of Mystery Babylon's reign.

===========================Quote Post #161945 ==========================

"The Lord is acting out what was plainly laid in the laws of tribulations in Lev 26:14-46 and Deut 28:15-68.
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The focus of the 7 times Judgment is towards Israel not Judah... This is why the 7 times prophecy correlate with their destruction and deportation. Look at these correlation of these events exactly 2520 years apart. This is the Lord’s signature for only He can fulfill all these events on exact timing according to His laws.

745 BC……..........................................................................................1776
..[---------------------------------------------2520---------------------------------------------------]
Deportation of Israel Begins...........................................USA Declaration of Independance

721 BC................................................................................................1801
..[--------------------------------------------2520----------------------------------------------------]
Samaria(Israel Capital)Destroy...........................................Washington DC(US Capital) Build

604 BC..............................................................................................1917
..[--------------------------------------------2520----------------------------------------------------]
Jerusalem Conquered by Babylon................................................Jerusalem freed by Allenby

607 BC..............................................................................................1914
..[-------------------------------------------2520-----------------------------------------------------]
Babylon Becomes an Empire..............................Federal Reserve Act(Mystery Babylon) Signed

...


Now coming back to these dates above, here’s a quote to explain the 100 years extension of the 2520 years from Stephen Jones a non-denominationalist.

Quote:
This “seven times” of dominion extended from 607 B.C. to 1914 A.D. But instead of ending, as one would normally expect, we saw the establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank, which extended our captivity for another century to the present time. The Federal Reserve Act was passed on December 23, 1913, and its hundredth anniversary is due in about two weeks on December 23, 2013.

The reason for the “extension of life,” prophesied in Daniel 7:12, is because Judah and Jerusalem were independent of beast rule from 163 to 63 B.C. after Antiochus Epiphanes desecrated the temple. The Judeans threw off the rule of Syria (part of the Grecian beast) in 163 B.C. and remained independent until Rome took Jerusalem in 63 B.C. Thus, the 2,520-year contract was suspended for a century, on account of Antiochus’ desecration, and this time had to be added at the end from 1913/14 to 2013/14.


607 BC................................................................................1914
..[-----------------------------------------2520----------------------------------------]
Babylon Becomes an Empire.............................Fed.Res.Act(Myst.Babylon)Signed 12/23/1913
...........................163 BC........23BC......................................1914..........2014
.............................[-----100------]...........................................[-----100------]
.............Jerusalem indep.100yrs from Beast ruling................100 yrs ext.for Myst.Bab. reign

Quote:
It appears that we are now at the end of this time period. Of course, keep in mind that Jerusalem was originally captured by Babylon in 604 B.C., which was three years after Babylon became an empire in 607. If we date things from 604 B.C., then the 2,520 year contract should have ended in 1916/1917, and the added century would take us to 2016/2017. So in the big picture, we will probably see some sort of 3-year transition in the fall of Babylon.”

604-607..............................................................1914-1917.................2014-2017
.....[------------------------------------ 2520 ----------------------------][----------- 100 ext. -----------]
3yrs(Jerus.Conquer. - Bab.became Emp.)..............3yrs(Myst.Bab.beg.destroy - tot.destruc.)

Thus, Dec 23 2013 is the beginning of the destruction of Mystery Babylon that will extend to the end of 2016. "

=========================== End of Quote ==============================



This is all good news. The only bad news is we SDAs has to revisit our prophecies interpretation as these current events doesn't match up to what we were expecting.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/10/14 07:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Well, maybe some of what you copy and paste here has some validity. I just heard on the news that China has surpassed the U.S. as the, and I forgot the exact term he used, but something like the leading nation.

News? On the Mainstream Media (MSM) News? I am surprise that you heard something like that there. Maybe it was a guest who expessed his opinion, but that wasn't MSM's opinion right? My expectation of MSM is they will lie till the end. But I may be wrong.
It was on Mike Huckabee. Do you consider his news networks Mainstream?

Quote:
but from what I'm understanding from their spokeperson it will take another 2-3 years before Babylon's corrupt Banking system will totally be replaced with the new....
I see this lining up perfectly with
Could you see it lining up perfectly with the 3 1/2 years prophecy?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/11/14 01:17 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Well, maybe some of what you copy and paste here has some validity. I just heard on the news that China has surpassed the U.S. as the, and I forgot the exact term he used, but something like the leading nation.

News? On the Mainstream Media (MSM) News? I am surprise that you heard something like that there. Maybe it was a guest who expessed his opinion, but that wasn't MSM's opinion right? My expectation of MSM is they will lie till the end. But I may be wrong.
It was on Mike Huckabee. Do you consider his news networks Mainstream?


I don't know Mike Huckabee. Wiki says his show is on FoxNews which I would consider MSM. We'll see how things will unfold and if MSM will have to admit publically to some of their lies.

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: elle
but from what I'm understanding from their spokeperson it will take another 2-3 years before Babylon's corrupt Banking system will totally be replaced with the new....
I see this lining up perfectly with
Could you see it lining up perfectly with the 3 1/2 years prophecy?


The 3.5 time frame(1260 years) prophecies given to the little horn is actually half of the 7 times(2520 years) allocated to all the other beasts kingdoms. So the first beast of Rev 13 was given the largest piece of time frame for them to rule on earth compared to any other Beasts kingdoms.

The 2nd Beast of Rev 13 that came out of the earth(Banking system) was only given 100 years in all of this. A very short rule comparing to the 1260 years of the RCC.

604-607..............................................................1914-1917.................2014-2017
.....[------------------------------------ 2520 ----------------------------][----------- 100 ext. -----------]
3yrs(Jerus.Conquer. - Bab.became Emp.)..............3yrs(Myst.Bab.beg.destroy - tot.destruc.)


No I don't see this last 3 years(2014 - 2017) as the equivalent of 3.5 times in Dan & Rev prophecies. I'm not saying there's no 3.5 years from 604BC from when Jerusalem was conquered to 607BC when Babylon became an Empire as I don't know the exact dates in terms of months when these events happenned to verify these. Maybe there is a 3.5 years time lapse, but I do not see these as being the same as the 3.5 times in D&R.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/13/14 03:33 PM

My Comment : In this article we see that the Banking reform of 2010 was resisted by the US who didn't want to share their voting power with any one else. Only when the BRICS nations started to implement an alternative Banking system that the IMF and US started to say they wanted to "reform". Actually it's all has been lip service to cause more delays. Regardless, the BRICS nations are going forward with an alternative NEW Banking system that will by-pass the corrupt one. This coming May, the new SWIFT system will be fully implemented and functional.

US isolated, BRICS to get greater voting power at IMF

December 13, 2014

Quote:
Months after the formation of new financial institutions like the $100 billion BRICS Bank and the China-led Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank, Christine Lagarde, managing director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), said Friday that the organization is ready to discuss IMF voting reforms without the United States to give BRICS and emerging countries greater voting power.

Lagarde said the IMF is disappointed with the US inaction to ratify the governance and quota reforms and will now move forward without Washington.

“The IMF’s membership has been calling on and was expecting the United States to approve the IMF’s 2010 Quota and Governance Reforms by year-end. Adoption of the reforms remains critical to strengthen the Fund’s credibility, legitimacy, and effectiveness, and to ensure it has sufficient permanent resources to meet its members’needs,” Lagarde said in a statement.

“I have now been informed by the U.S. Administration that the reforms are not included in the budget legislation currently before the U.S. Congress. I have expressed my disappointment to the U.S authorities and hope that they continue to work toward speedy ratification,” she said.

“As requested by our membership, we will now proceed to discuss alternative options for advancing quota and governance reforms and ensuring that the Fund has adequate resources, starting with an Executive Board meeting in January 2015,” she added.

Earlier in September this year, in her opening address at the United Nations General Assembly, Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff warned that international financial institutions are in danger of losing legitimacy if developing countries like BRICS are not given proper representation.

“It is also imperative to eliminate the disparity between the growing importance of developing countries in the global economy and their insufficient representation and participation in the decision-making processes of international financial institutions, such as the Monetary Fund and the World Bank. The delay in the expansion of voting rights of developing countries in these institutions is unacceptable,” Rousseff said.

“These institutions are in danger of losing legitimacy and efficiency,” she added.

The IMF reforms will hand more IMF voting powers to BRICS, a long-standing demand of the group and will also reduce the concentration of representative power of Western Europe at the IMF board.

China and other emerging economies, including BRICS, have long protested against their limited voice at global financial platforms, including the World Bank, International Monetary Fund and Asian Development Bank.

The IMF quota reform calls for a 6 per cent shift in quota share to emerging economies. It will lift China, which still has less voting power than the Benelux countries ( Belgium, Holland and Luxemburg), to the third largest shareholder. Shares for Russia, India and Brazil will also see hefty rise.

The reforms, however, have been delayed for four years owing to a block by the US Congress as the US retains a veto. IMF chief Lagarde hinted at a “Plan B” in April if the US fails to endorse the reforms by year-end.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/13/14 03:43 PM

Below is part of an article taken from Stephen Jones' blog :

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2014/12-2014/update-on-the-news/

"The IMF Reform of 2010, which the US congress has refused to pass, is now passing its deadline that the other nations of the world have established. The US budget barely passed, but it did not include ratification of the Reforms. So now, Christine Lagarde, the head of the IMF, says,

http://www.imf.org/external/np/sec/pr/2014/pr14568.htm

Quote:
“I have now been informed by the U.S. Administration that the reforms are not included in the budget legislation currently before the U.S. Congress. I have expressed my disappointment to the U.S authorities and hope that they continue to work toward speedy ratification.

“As requested by our membership, we will now proceed to discuss alternative options for advancing quota and governance reforms and ensuring that the Fund has adequate resources, starting with an Executive Board meeting in January 2015.”


For a long time, the other nations have been discussing alternative actions, including one that would replace the IMF with an alternative fund. If the USA wants to be part of it, it would have to settle for a system where it does not have veto power over all policies. The world is tired of the virtually unlimited power that the USA has wielded over the IMF through its veto power.

Of course, we understand from a prophetic standpoint that it is really Mystery Babylon that is fighting to retain dominance in the world. But Babylon is cracking and splitting apart, economically and politically.


The Government Spending Bill

The spending bill, keeping the government programs funded until next September, was barely passed by the House last night (214-212).

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/12/11/democrats-obama-part-on-1-1t-spending-bill/21115206/?icid=maing-grid7|htmlws-sb-bb|dl16|sec1_lnk3&pLid=580531

Once again it includes all sorts of venomous spiders and toxic sludge. The Washington Post complains that pensioners will take a cut in benefits, as government believe that the poor are the ones who ought to support the system after it has been looted by the oligarchs.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/e...bff8_story.html

Quote:
“This is nothing less than a declaration of war by Congress on American retirees,” said R. Thomas Buffenbarger, international president of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. “Allowing cuts to existing retirees’ pensions is simply the wrong way to address the problems of a few troubled pension plans. .&#8201;.&#8201;. The long-standing promise of a secure pension system must not be overturned by unaccountable lawmakers in a lame-duck session of Congress.”


Since 1974, the federal law governing the nation’s private-sector pensions has prohibited cuts to the benefits of workers who have already retired — a precedent that is now endangered.

The bill also essentially repeals the Dodd-Frank banking reforms that were passed in the wake of the 2008 banking crisis. However, there seems to be a silver lining here. The big banks will have to do their derivatives gambling in a separate subsidiary, rather than directly by the bank itself. This means that when interest rates begin to rise, collapsing the derivatives market, the subsidiary will be the entity that goes bankrupt, rather than the bank itself.

In other words, customer bank deposits will NOT be used to pay off the creditors in those derivatives markets.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/23/14 09:18 PM

Aurom: New currency made with gold will replace the Paper currency

http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2014/12...ar-2681456.html

Quote:
In Karen Hudes latest webcam release from December 4, 2014, the World Bank whistleblower explains that the time has arrived, the new currency which will replace the dollar and other fiat currencies, Aurom, will contain gold within the currency itself. Karen explains how this will occur in an orderly manner in an attempt to prevent the US greenback from fully crashing, and updates us on the new “coalition for the rule of law.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl3kaBSl2p8

Quote:

Transcript-summary of the video :
188 Ministers of Finance play a role in the "Global Debt Facility" (GDF), assets put into trust at end of WWII for 50 years in order to make sure these assets will go to the benefit of humanity.

Dec. 1: Chris Powell (for GATA) stated how the price of Gold has been deliberately manipulated by Central Banks, (Private Banks part of Network of Global Corporate Control (GCC) that the Federal Institute of Technology secretely bought the media to censor news and manipulate Governments). Karen claims this lawlessness is over.

The Coalition for the Rule of Law is taking back the monetary system, which should not be controlled by the Banks for International Settlements (BIS), using monetary agreements to allocate Gold to all of the countries of the world to be used to create "Aurom", currency with Gold contained in the currency.

This will happen very soon because paper currencies are unstable and the Federal Reserve Note (FRN) is to be replaced by the Aurom from the GDF.

July 2014: united States - Japan Joint Committee (uSJJC) under the Status of Forces Agreement, together with the County Executives of America, accepted the delivery of this Gold for creation of Aurom which has still to be implemented. The GCC is no cooperating.

10-June-2014: Member of the Japan Diet - (Yukuhisa Fujita ?spelling?), is now on the Committee of Defense in Japan's Senate at the House of Councillors, also a member of the Committee of Foreign Affairs, was the Vice Minister of Finance, discussed that the "united States" military bring their strength so that we will not allow the FRN to crash, that we will replace this paper currency which is no longer backed by Gold (NOT dollars) since 1971, will be replaced first by dollars printed by Ronald Regan after his commissoned study by the Grace Commission which showed that close to 100% of Income Taxes were going to the Federal Reserve. There should be no interest charged on currency - as a matter of fact, the BIS issued Gold Certificates back in the '30s, called Treaty of Versaille Bonds, and these bonds have been accuring interest in exchange for Gold that is now in the GDF. With the compounded interest, these Gold Certificates owned by the GDF are valued in the Quadrillions of Dollars. The BIS is insolvent and it's debt is going to be offset against Country Debt. So we will no longer be payig interest on our currency which by-the way is a scam! This will end immediately in an orderly fashion.

Karen is making this statement on the eve of an extraordinary appointment, Chuck Hagel - former U.S. Secretary of Defence, discussed a power transition model back in 2008 with Karen Hudes while he was still Senator for Nebrasca. This power transition model (PTM) is very accurate - comming from the Department of Defence, developed by Yusic Kubler (Poly-Sci), shows the 'united States' with the rest of the World is prepared to accept the "rule of law", doing away with state capture by the banking cartel.

This was second attempt to upload video.

The PTM is predicting with 90-95% likelihood that the Secretary of the Army, John McCue, responsible for Monetary Policy. The U.S. has been under Military rule extended by Congress that didn't bother to inform the American People that we were not under Civilian Rule. "We" will now be taking back our civilian rule with the Aurom, minted to replace the FRN with Gold in the GDF accepted by the County Executives of America, done back in July 2014 together with the uSJJC because Japan is not going to rely on the United States for it's security if the United States is bankrupted by the Federal Reserve Notes.

This is a transition from the lawlessness of the BIS which is insolvent which issued bonds in exchange for Gold and these bonds have been accruing interest valued in the Quadrillions of Dollars and they (BIS) are going to have to make good on this debt. "We" are going to offset this against the Country Debt.


My comment : I don't think all of Karen Hudes info is 100% reliable; so use discernment. However, I can see that the Aurom is a good solution by giving the currency actual gold value by making it partially with gold. Then the note can always be melted to extract that gold if needed. In this way actual gold can be used to do small transaction.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/23/14 09:29 PM

Aurum: A New Way to hold Gold

http://www.peakprosperity.com/podcast/84359/new-way-hold-gold

Quote:
What if you could carry and exchange gold in the exact same manner as you do with the dollar bills in your wallet?

I've recently been introduced to a technology that's making this possible.

In today's podcast, I speak with Adam Trexler, President of Valaurum, about this technology and the gold-infused notes it creates. Valaurum's mission is to democratize ownership of gold by converting it into a form affordable to anyone.


Democratizing Gold

In short, a fractional gram's worth of gold is affixed to layers of polyester, creating a note – called an "Aurum" – similar in dimension and thickness to a U.S. dollar bill. This gold (usually 1/10th or 1/20th of a gram) is commercially recoverable. So an Aurum offers similar potential as a coin or bar, in terms of providing a vehicle for storing and exchanging known, dependable increments of precious metals – just in much smaller (and more affordable) amounts than commercially available to date.

The big idea here? In a world where a 1oz coin of gold costs over $1,200, an Aurum will let you hold a few dollars' worth of gold in a single note. If you've got pocket change, you can be a precious metals owner.

And you don't have to change your behavior. You can store and transport an Aurum in your billfold along with your dollars.


Understanding the Aurum

As the saying goes, a picture's worth a thousand words. Here's a picture of an Aurum designed for Peak Prosperity that the Valaurum team produced for us:


You'll see that with even just 1/20th of a gram of gold involved, it's enough to make the Aurum appear to be "made of" gold. The characteristic luster, color, and shine of the 24-karat gold used is immediately apparent.

The Aurum is designed to be handled in the same manner as we do with our "paper" money. And, despite having a more 'plastic' feel to it (resulting from the polyester backing), it's as flexible, lightweight, and familiar-feeling as paper currency.

The big difference, of course, is that instead of being a claim on something else, it simply is what it is: a fractional gram of gold. It can be stored, traded, or melted down – just like a coin or bar.

Here's a brief video that gives an overview of the production process:

<<Video link provided after this quote box>>


Implications

Being able to hold gold in this form is significant for several reasons.

First, it makes gold ownership available to all budgets. Many of the world's households have been priced out of gold to date. This changes that completely.

Second, it enables the potential for everyday transactions should we ever return to a precious metal-backed monetary standard. It answers the challenge: How will you pay for your groceries with gold? With an Aurum, it's now easy.

Whether Valaurum's product emerges as the winning horse or not, the world definitely needs this type of solution (i.e., convenient fractional physical metal) to go mainstream.

I'm very excited by this new innovation in the bullion industry, and I explore the matter in depth in this podcast. If you're similarly intrigued, it's worth the listen.


Aurum: the Production Process
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/26/14 05:35 PM

Comment: Today, China is adding 3 more countries officially (making it 11 countries in total) that is trading directly the Yuan(aka renminbi) in commerce and financial transaction by-passing the Fed Reserve US dollar. The article says "China will not halt its accelerated plans to internationalize its currency". China is breaking grounds for every countries to trade between themselves in their own currencies.

What I understand is that the Chinese Royal Families had foreclosed on the Fed Reserve & IMF in 2012. Now that the control of these private corporations(FED & IMF) has largely reverted to them; they are slowly changing things from their ends. I believe they will totally dissolve these banking 3 letters corporations gradually while waiting for the BRICS nations system to be fully set up. An ambassador of the Royal Chinese Family said that the current Chinese government is in agreement with them and is acting as the visible political arm of the Royal Family. However do note that these two entities are totally seperate.


China launching forwards, swaps with Ruble

http://thebricspost.com/china-launching-forwards-swaps-with-ruble/#.VJ1lesBA

December 26, 2014

Quote:
China is launching trading in forwards and swaps between the yuan and three more currencies, including the Russian ruble, from December 29, the China Foreign Exchange Trade System managed by the People’s Bank of China announced on Friday.

China is also launching trading in contracts with the Malaysian ringgit and the New Zealand dollar from 29th December. China is promoting usage of the yuan in global commercial and financial transactions, with the ultimate goal of rivaling the dollar as a reserve currency.

Friday’s announcement will extend the yuan’s swaps trading to 11 currencies on the interbank foreign-exchange market.

Analysts say China will not halt its accelerated plans to internationalize its currency.



“This will provide companies with better hedging tools, and at the same time, make currency trading more efficient,” a Bloomberg report quoted HSBC’s strategist in Hong Kong, Ju Wang as saying.

“China won’t stop yuan globalization” despite volatility in emerging market currencies, the strategist said.

China is promoting the use of its currency as an alternative to the dollar in global trade and finance and more and more nations now want to capture the fast-growing market for offshore trade in yuan, also known as the renminbi.

The Chinese currency is already traded directly against the US dollar, the euro, the Japanese yen, the British pound, the Aussie and New Zealand dollars, Russia’s rouble, the Singapore dollar and Malaysia’s ringgit. Yuan settlement in trade surged from 2.06 trillion yuan in 2012 to 3.01 trillion yuan in 2013 worldwide.

Meanwhile, Russian President Vladimir Putin asked business leaders last week to report on plans to sell foreign currency revenues and to engage in responsible foreign exchange operations, Vedomosti newspaper reported earlier this week.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/05/15 05:37 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
#138560 - 01/02/12 "about a new global economic restructuring arising in 2012".

#148963 - 01/11/13 "I think they had thought that it would of been done before 2012 ended, however, it is taking longer.... We'll see what the Lord will accomplish this year. "

#158982 - 12/05/13 "No-one know the date, however the signs are all around us. "

Hmmmm. If not in 2014, at least by the beginning of 2015. And if not at the beginning of 2015, at least by the end.....

2012
2013
2014
2015?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/16/15 07:02 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: kland
#138560 - 01/02/12 "about a new global economic restructuring arising in 2012".

#148963 - 01/11/13 "I think they had thought that it would of been done before 2012 ended, however, it is taking longer.... We'll see what the Lord will accomplish this year. "

#158982 - 12/05/13 "No-one know the date, however the signs are all around us. "

Hmmmm. If not in 2014, at least by the beginning of 2015. And if not at the beginning of 2015, at least by the end.....

2012
2013
2014
2015?


The announcement made in Jan 1st 2012 by which I provided a link to on the first post of this thread, was done by a representative of the Chinese Royal Family(aka Red Dragon Family). At that point of time, they(Chinese Royal Family who holds most of the gold of the world) did not renew the mandate to the current Banking Cartel (FED, IMF, BIS and etc) that is in power today. In 2010, a Banking reform, named Basel III, was put on the table and the world Banks were expected to comply to it by the end of 2012. This Basel III agreement was a restructure of the Banking system to remove all corruption. However, they did not comply and were not releasing their power either.

They(FED, IMF, BIS, and etc) gave lip service since 2010. It was evident that no reform was in their agenda. So only in 2013 the BRICS with 180+ nations support saw it necessary to develop a totally new independent banking system to bypass the corrupt old. To my understanding, the progress is on track and they(China, Russia, and 10 more countries) have started to test-use the new designed SWIFT system in late Dec 2014. The new SWIFT system was announced to be fully implemented and in operation world wide coming May 2015.

On November 16th 2014(Page 50 Post#169122) there was a major transfer of power where the owners of the FED/IMF... had lost their case and were found bankrupt and these compagnies(FED/IMF) have changed hands to the Royal Chinese Families since then.

So legally Mystery Babylon(2nd Beast of Rev 13 = Banking Cartel) financial arm has fallen at the end of 2014 and are no longer in power nor owners of the FED and IMF. This is a very major event that happened in 2014. However this event has passed by unnoticed by most people for the mainstream media(MSM) is not going to cover that since they are Mystery Babylon’s mouth piece.

Having the FED/IMF changing owners in mind, let's look at the 7 times(7x 360 = 2520 years) timeline again by only looking at the two events(607BC & 604BC) that took place in history that correlation with the 2014 to 2017 Mystery Babylon destruction dates.

In Brief :(more details below)

Babylon's Empire Establish & Destroyed
607 BC ......................... + 2520 yrs = 1914......................... + 100yrs ext.= 2014
(Babylon Empire Est.).......... (Myst.Bab FED Res. Est).......... (M.Bab FED Res. foreclosed)

Babylon's Forein Politics Establish & Destroyed
604 BC......................... + 2520 yrs = 1917......................... + 100yrs ext.= 2017
(Jerus.capt.= Babyl.Politic).... (Balfour Agreem.Israel land = Myst.Bab.Politic).... (destruct
.............................................................................................M.Bab.Politic)


The 100 years Extention

Remember as explained in Post #161945 there was 100 years extension added because Judah and Jerusalem were independent of the beast rule from 163 to 63 B.C. after Antiochus Epiphanes desecrated the temple. The Judeans threw off the rule of Syria (part of the Grecian beast) in 163 B.C. and remained independent until Rome took Jerusalem in 63 B.C. Thus, the 2,520-year contract to the Beasts Empires was suspended for a century and this time had to be added to the end of the timelines of events.


Babylon’s Financial Arm

607 BC.............................................................1914...........................2014
..[-------------------------------------2520--------------------------][---------- +100yrs -----------]
Babylon Becomes an Empire.............................FED Bank Opened ....... FED Foreclosed

The Federal Reserve Act was signed on December 23, 1913 but the banks were not open until Nov 16th 1914.

http://www.federalreservehistory.org/Events/DetailView/18

Quote:
Some seven months after the Reserve Bank Organization Committee announced which cities and districts were selected, all twelve Reserve Banks opened on the same day, Monday, November 16, 1914. There was a sense of urgency to open the Reserve Banks, as World War 1 was affecting commerce and banking, but there were many organizational hurdles to overcome.


It appears that November 16th 2014 was the date the FED&IMF was foreclosed by the Chinese Empirial Family and removed the power from Mystery Babylon(Banking Cartels). Exactly 100 years to the DAY from the date they had opened the Banks. And this date(2014) correlates exactly 2520 years(7 times) after Babylon had become an Empire in 604.


Babylon’s Political Arm

The Federal Reserve/IMF is the Financial arm of Mystery Babylon, whereas the Zionist faction is the political arm that are infiltrated in most governement in the world. Prophecies about Edom and the bad figs of Judah (who form the Zionist Elites in control) are being fulfilled in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world. It seems that their power will end when Issiah 29 and Jeremaih 19 concerning the destruction of Jerusalem will be fulfilled. Currently the true face of the Zionist is being exposed and will completely be shown to all and people will hiss seeing it.

As we see that the Financial arm of Mystery Babylon was just recently been removed in 2014 most likely on the exact day a century ago when it was put on, then maybe Mystery Babylon’s political arm(Zionist) will be totally destroyed in 2017 a century later from when it was established. That may be the Lord’s plan on how He will destroy Mystery Babylon in 3 years by first removing it’s financial arm, and after its political. Let’s look closely at the 3 political dates :

604 BC.................................................1917...................................2017
..[-----------------------------2520----------------------][--------------- +100yrs ---------------]
Jerusalem Conquered..................... Jerus.Land freed .............. Jerusalem Destroyed
.....by Babylon.............................& re-occupation begins .............. (land & Zionist)


In Summary

Establishment of Old Babylon: We see 3 years (607 – 604 BC) where in 607 BC Babylon first became an Empire in conquering Assyria. After 3 years, in 604 BC they Concquered Jerusalem.

Establisment of Mystery Babylon (exactly 2520 years later = 7 times): We see the same pattern of 3 years (1914 – 1917). First Mystery Babylon established its empire via the financial arm of the Federal Reserve Act. Banks opening was in Nov 26, 1914. Then in 1917, they established their Political arm (Zionist Movement) with the Balfour declaration on Nov 2 to re-occupy the land with Allenby freeing Jerusalem on Dec 10, 1917.

Destruction of Mystery Babylon (100 years later): Most likely the same 3 years (2014-2017) pattern, first by removing their financial arm a century later to the day, on Nov 26, 2014. Thus, I would watch both Nov 2 and Dec 10 2017 dates and expect to see the removal of the Zionist political arm then.


The Latest News about the Financial Restructure

Just this past week or so, I have heard the Ambassador from the Royal Chinese Family saying TWICE that they see no other option than to crash the current system, so to birth the new one. It has to be totally replaced. On the latest interview, he even qualified the timing by saying “in the nearest future”. My hunch is before this May, but it could be sooner or later than that. I really don’t know and wonder if anyone will know beforehand. We have been warned this past 3 years, and now it appears that it is near. So be prepared. They are trying to do this in the smoothest way possible, but the Cabal-Zionist will do all they can to bring chaos. Also, with that message, it was said that the top leaders in charged in giving orders to terrorize the people of the nations will be removed (not killed) beforehand.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/16/15 07:20 PM

Grandmaster Putin's Plan

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2014/12-2014/grandmaster-putins-plan/

Dec 27, 2014

Earlier this week, the Russian currency suffered a large-scale collapse, and the Central Bank raised interest rates from 10.5% to 17%. The news media has been quick to call this an economic crisis. The ruble has now stabilized at 52 rubles to the dollar, down from 80 last June.

This is the result of the US sanctions imposed on Russia after it dared to defend itself against the US-led political coup which overthrew the government in Ukraine last February. The intent of this coup was to place yet another NATO missile base on Russia's border. A similar act more than 50 years ago brought about the Cuban Missile Crisis, when the old Soviet Union attempted to place a missile base on the doorstep of the US. The US objected to that and was willing to fight a nuclear war to prevent this base from being established. But today, in the case of Ukraine, the US does not consider Russia's objection to be valid. Do I detect a bit of hypocrisy?

But Russian President Putin recently stated that Russia’s economic difficulty is caused only 25% by the sanctions. The major cause, he said, was the pre-existing inefficiency built into their economic model.

At first glance, this seems incredible and almost ludicrous. The term inefficiency, however, does not specify anything that the average person would notice. Do they have too many secretaries doing duplicate work? Do they print money on old presses? Do they yet ride on horseback to go to G20 meetings? Of course not.

What Putin means is that in the old economic model, Russia, like so many other countries, has been using the dollar in its payment system of international trade. In so doing, they have to pay the usual fees for every transaction, payable to the Federal Reserve in New York. It is the world tax on trade, which the Fed enjoys on account of the US dollar’s status as the world reserve currency.

But such use of the dollar is unnecessary and inefficient, Putin is saying. Why use the dollar when the older system (gold payments) will work just fine. There are no fees to be paid to New York when nations settle their trade imbalances by gold payments.

Furthermore, in bypassing the dollar, Russia and China are able to stop supporting the entity that has declared war against them. The US Congress virtually declared war on Russia two weeks ago. So why should Russia help their avowed enemies finance this war?

The Putin Plan is set forth in a very insightful article here:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/grandmaster...al-gold/5421567

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Accusations of the West towards Putin are traditionally based on the fact that he worked in the KGB. And therefore he is a cruel and immoral person. Putin is blamed for everything. But nobody ever accused Putin of the lack of intelligence….

Putin’s real policies are not public. Therefore, Putin’s policy largely has always focused not so much on effect, but on efficiency.

Very few people understand what Putin is doing at the moment. And almost no one understands what he will do in the future.


No matter how strange it may seem, but right now, Putin is selling Russian oil and gas only for physical gold….

In total, the central banks of all countries of the world have purchased 93 tons of the precious metal in the third quarter of 2014. It was the 15th consecutive quarter of net purchases of gold by Central banks. Of the 93 tonnes of gold purchases by central banks around the world during this period, the staggering volume of purchases of 55 tons – belongs to Russia.


The article goes on to show how the West has been propping up the US dollar by lowering the price of gold through its manipulations (short selling of paper gold). While this seems to strengthen the dollar by comparison to gold, the policy also serves to sell cheap gold to Russia, China, India, and any other country that is in the buying mood.

Hence, what Russia loses on the lowered price of oil (which they are selling), they gain on the lowered price of gold (which they are buying). The low price of oil is a short-term economic hardship, but the low price of gold is a long-term benefit.

The sanctions only apply to a limited number of people, banks, and corporations. Russia still does a lot of trade with other nations, payable in US dollars. But Putin immediately takes those dollars and converts them to gold, so that Russia does not help push up the value of the US dollar. Further, they get to do this without giving the appearance of "dumping the dollar," even though that is the practical effect of their strategy.


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Are we witnessing the end of dollar era?

In this aspect, the solitaire of Russian-Chinese relations is extremely successful for Moscow and Beijing. Russia buys goods from China directly for gold at its current price. While China buys Russian energy resources for gold at its current price. At this Russian-Chinese festival of life there is a place for everything: Chinese goods, Russian energy resources, and gold – as a means of mutual payment. Only US dollar has no place at this festival of life. And this is not surprising. Because the US dollar is not a Chinese product, nor a Russian energy resource. It is only an intermediate financial instrument of settlement – and an unnecessary intermediary. And it is customary to exclude unnecessary intermediaries from the interaction of two independent business partners.


Putin is eliminating “unnecessary intermediaries” which are inefficient. This means the US dollar, as a world reserve currency, is steadily being undermined as nations start using the US dollar less and less in making payments for world trade.

After World War 2, the Bretton Woods Convention (1944) made the US dollar the world currency because it had more gold than any other Western country and could facilitate trade settlements in gold upon demand. In 1971, however, after a costly war in Vietnam, Nixon abandoned that system and “closed the gold window,” because it was already running out of gold.

In 2014, the article says, Putin opened up the gold window without Washington’s permission! Russia, China, India, and other smaller nations are now buying up gold at bargain prices, and the US is helpless to do anything about it. They cannot raise the price of gold without lowering the value of the US dollar. All that the Western oligarchs can do is to watch helplessly until the day when they default on their contracts and payments.

The article concludes:


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If you explain to the Western public all the details of the looming economic disaster, the public will ask the supporters of a petrodollar world the most terrible questions, which will sound like this:

How long will the West be able to buy oil and gas from Russia in exchange for physical gold?

And what will happen to the US petrodollar after the West runs out of physical gold to pay for Russian oil, gas and uranium, as well as to pay for Chinese goods?


No one in the West today can answer these seemingly simple questions.

And this is called “Checkmate”, ladies and gentlemen. The game is over.


Well, not quite. No one has capitulated yet. The US is hoping to crash Russia’s economy, while Russia is hoping to survive until the US runs out of gold. That is the chess match being played out on the world stage. Putin is a grandmaster. Obama is a novice.

Recently, according to Bloomberg News, a Chinese official stated that China would help Russia if necessary.


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A Chinese Commerce Ministry news official, who asked not to be named as part of the rules, said his department declined to comment on the Phoenix TV report, and a faxed question to the Chinese central bank went unanswered. President Xi Jinping last month called for China to adopt “big-country diplomacy” as he laid out goals for elevating his nation’s status as the world’s second-largest economy.

Many Chinese people still view Russia as the big brother, and the two countries are strategically important to each other,” said Jin Canrong, Associate Dean of the School of International Studies at Renmin University in Beijing, referring to the Soviet Union’s backing of Communist China in its first years. “For the sake of national interests, China should deepen cooperation with Russia when such cooperation is in need.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-22...rency-swap.html


With China backing Russia “when such cooperation is in need,” it is difficult to see how the US could win this economic chess game. The only reason to continue the fight is because the Western oligarchs know that they are doomed, and they feel as if they have no choice but to put off that day as long as possible.

When that Day comes, it will mark the end of the war between Babylon and the Kings of the East. A new era will arrive, which many will think is the end of the world, but which in reality will be the fulfillment of Bible prophecy and the answer to our prayers for deliverance from Babylonian bondage.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/17/15 05:22 PM

New credit rating agencies to balance 'Big Three', China says

http://rt.com/business/222871-china-russia-rating-agency/
January 15, 2015

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The creation of a joint Russian-Chinese credit rating agency will balance the global outlook and give the world an alternative view on how credit ratings should be done, Chinese international relations expert Victor Gao told RT.

“Traditionally credit rating is mostly done by Western credit rating agencies. They sometimes may not fully understand the dynamics of the economics of any particular company or the sovereign borrower,” he said, adding that the agency won’t pursue a goal of replacing traditional Western credit rating agencies like S&P and Moody’s.

“It will give the whole world another perspective of how risks are analyzed and how credit rating should be done,” he said.

READ MORE: China and Russia to launch new credit rating agency in 2015

Gao believes Western rating agencies claim to be independent and professional, but in fact they turn out to be biased when it comes to issues of geopolitical importance.

“During the global financial crisis the Western rating agencies did not react as quickly as possible,” he said. “In terms of the rating of the sovereign debt of the US for example, or even for Japan, they’ve actually displayed much more flexibility in rating these countries compared with many other countries.”

The announcement of a rating could actually make a situation even worse rather than help stabilize it, he added.

READ MORE: Russia needs sharper action to avoid ‘junk’ downgrade – former finance minister

Credit rating agencies are very much at the top of the international financial system and they’re not only active domestically in one particular country but in many cases they are active across national boundaries.

Gao said that China has its own credit rating agency Dagong which is actively operating in the country and abroad, increasingly estimating other countries’ and companies’ credit rating.

The analyst believes the global economy is changing and going through an important transformation as the emerging markets are growing and their portion in the global economy is increasing despite a significant turmoil in the international financial, economic and energy sectors.

Creating a joint credit rating agency of Russia and China is significant but it’s high time the world’s most important developing economies united and came up with their own credit rating agency, as in case of establishing the BRICS Development Bank, he said.

READ MORE: BRICS establish $100bn bank and currency pool to cut out Western dominance

Gao supposes other emerging economies outside of the BRICS framework could join the establishment of alternative credit rating agencies.

“It’s important to have their voice heard, and in this particular context I think their own credit agency will indeed become more and more important in the coming few years and decades in light of the increasing importance of the emerging markets in the overall global economy,” he concluded.


Also RT News Video report with an interview below :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPlZ3yMjRbI
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/18/15 06:42 AM

My Comment: Is what the Swiss National Bank did last week the straw that breaks the camel's back?

The article says "The Big Crisis, the one in which entire countries go bust, has begun. It will not unfold in a matter of weeks; these sorts of things take months to complete. But it has begun.."

The Financial System Broke Last Week

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-17/financial-system-broke-last-week

01/17/2015

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Global Central banks’ reputations are on borrowed time.

ALL of the so called, “economic recovery” that began in 2009 has been based on the Central Banks’ abilities to rein in the collapse.

The first round of interventions (2007-early 2009) was performed in the name of saving the system. The second round (2010-2012) was done because it was generally believed that the first round hadn’t completed the task of getting the world back to recovery.

However, from 2012 onward, everything changed. At that point the Central Banks went “all in” on the Keynesian lunacy that they’d been employing since 2008. We no longer had QE plans with definitive deadlines. Instead phrases like “open-ended” and doing “whatever it takes” began to emanate from Central Bankers’ mouths.

However, the insanity was in fact greater than this. It is one thing to bluff your way through the weakest recovery in 80+ years with empty promises; but it’s another thing entirely to roll the dice on your entire country’s solvency just to see what happens.

In 2013, the Bank of Japan launched a single QE program equal to 25% of Japan’s GDP. This was unheard of in the history of the world. Never before had a country spent so much money relative to its size so rapidly… and with so little results: a few quarters of increased economic growth while household spending collapsed and misery rose alongside inflation.

This was the beginning of the end. Japan nearly broke its bond market launching this program (the circuit breakers tripped multiple times in that first week). However it wasn’t until late 2014 that things truly became completely and utterly broken.

We are, of course, referring to the Bank of Japan’s decision to increase its already far too big QE program, not because doing so would benefit the country, but because it would bring economists’ forecast inline with governor Kuroda’s intended inflation numbers.

This was the “Rubicon” moment: the instant at which Central Banks gave up pretending that their actions or policies were aimed at anything resembling public good or stability. It was now about forcing reality to match Central Bankers’ theories and forecasts. If reality didn’t react as intended, it wasn’t because the theories were misguided… it was because Central Bankers simply hadn’t left the paperweight on the “print” button long enough.

At this point the current financial system was irrevocably broken. We simply had yet to feel it.

That is, until, last week, when the Swiss National Bank lost control, breaking a promise, and a currency peg, losing an amount of money equal to somewhere between 10% and 15% of Swiss GDP in a single day, and showing, once and for all, that there are problems so big that even the ability to print money can’t fix them.

Please let this sink in: a Central bank lost control last week. This will not be a one-off event. With the Fed and other Central banks now leveraged well above 50-to-1, even those entities that were backstopping an insolvent financial system are themselves insolvent.

The Big Crisis, the one in which entire countries go bust, has begun. It will not unfold in a matter of weeks; these sorts of things take months to complete. But it has begun.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/18/15 08:09 PM

The meaning of the Swiss Franc removal from the Euro

Zerohedge view posted above of the Swiss Franc removal is correct and was just confirmed by the Ambassador of the Royal Chinese Families. This is a very important event of the "beginning of the collapse" of the Financial system that for years many financial analysts have warned us about.

I have transcribe the section from 2:00min – 6:10min mark in the Ron Van Dyke’s interview dated Jan 17th 2015 with the Ambassador where he comments about the event that took place with the Swiss Franc last week.

Please note that this is about a 90% word per word transcription. English is not the Ambassador’s mother tongue and struggle to find the correct word to express himself at times. However, I did preserve his thoughts and wording as much as possible. In parenthese is my addition to the text for ease of comprehension.

The interview can be viewed at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTgm6-p_3X0&feature=youtu.be


The Swiss Franc is the currency that is backing the Euro. So removing itself from the Euro is basically an attack against the Euro. The Euro &(?) Federal Reserve is the same corporation -- is the same entity; they are all inter-connected.

Basically this is another move to destabilize Euro and US dollar. Also at the same time…(the Swiss) gold used to back the Franc ?UBS?, may not be there anymore and they (Swiss) have to re-evaluate their assets that they really have…..

Knowing what’s going on, it is a natural process in this new system. Basically to move assets to its rightful custodians and at the same time to put up the new financial system. We need to fix and settle the balance all around the world.

…It’s a great wake up call of what’s coming. People should be thinking over of their own economy at this time and know where to put their investment for securing their family for the future. It’s a good wake up call, maybe a little bit late but at the same time good to do much as you can right now.

It’s not the first time, … a few months back when the Swiss Franc was devaluating and now it’s basically moving away(from Euro). The problem here is what is backing the Euro. Now the strong foundation that backed the Euro and assets that used to make the Franc is basically not there the way it used to be in the past.

This is a natural process, but this is a shocking process. As long you have a nice government in the shape of a dictatorship…like the USA…you all going to believe that the economy is going great and we are all blooming & flourishing, don’t worry about anything, everything is all fine. Then the situation comes and blast in your face. Then you will have a wake up call that we have a new crisis. Then of course they are going to blame all of this crisis on the oil and(?) wars that it is Putin’s fault…”we have to go to new war; it’s all Putin’s fault for the financial crisis”. But in reality it is all organized by the same “old man” that always traumatizing the world and making money doing so. And again the normal people is the casualties…. It’s up to us to make a difference….don’t allow them to get away with their crimes and don’t allow them to be empowered by our silence.
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Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/20/15 06:37 PM

Elle, regarding your 2520 days meaning 2014. This would mean it couldn't be 2012 or 2013, right? And what if it's not 2014? Would you rewrite it so it would come out to be whichever year you're in?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/21/15 04:36 PM

My Comment: Switzerland is leaving the West(Myst.Babylon) ties and joining with the Kings of the East : China (BRICS). I heard today that the new system to be up in May 2015. So from this I would deduce that the collapse will happen sometime before. They need to collapse the old so to bring the new. Also, it was said by the Ambassador of the Chinese Royal families that the signs of the coming collapse will be drastic currencies changes and other market value changes. These are adjustments and part of the natural process. Nothing to be concern about, but you yourself should revisit where your families values are and do like the Swiss and remove them outside of Mystery Babylon's system and on to the new system which are based on real value.

China, Switzerland to announce offshore yuan trading center in Zurich

http://thebricspost.com/china-switzerlan...h/#.VL-pXdLF8uc

January 21, 2015

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As China takes it currency global, Zurich is set to become a center for yuan trading in Europe with Chinese and Swiss officials poised to sign a financial deal on Wednesday.

“A memorandum of understanding will be signed between the central banks of the two countries during Chinese Premier Li Keqiang’s visit to Switzerland. It is an important step in the internationalization of the RMB, especially in Europe,” a government official was quoted by Chinese news agency Xinhua.

Switzerland is basing its push for the offshore yuan business on the country’s close ties with China, one of the nation’s biggest trading partner. Switzerland is the first country among the world’s top 20 to have a free trade agreement with China.

The Chinese and Swiss central banks already signed a bilateral currency swap agreement worth 150 billion yuan (24 billion dollars), in July last year.

Under the deal to be signed on Wednesday, China will give Switzerland a quota of 50 billion yuan (about $8 billion), under its Qualified Foreign Institutional Investor (QFII) scheme to support the establishment of the Zurich offshore RMB market.

The first branch of a Chinese bank will be set up in the Swiss financial hub for future RMB clearance after it gets approval from regulators of both sides.

China has established offshore RMB markets in Hong Kong, London, among other places, in a drive for the internationalization of its currency.

The world’s second-largest economy started pushing for the great use of the yuan outside the mainland in 2010.

China is promoting the use of its currency as an alternative to the dollar in global trade and finance and more and more nations now want to capture the fast-growing market for offshore trade in yuan, also known as the renminbi.

The Chinese currency is already traded directly against the US dollar, the euro, the Japanese yen, the British pound, the Aussie and New Zealand dollars, Russia’s rouble, the Singapore dollar and Malaysia’s ringgit. Yuan settlement in trade surging from 2.06 trillion yuan in 2012 to 3.01 trillion yuan in 2013 worldwide.

The Chinese Premier arrived in Zurich Tuesday to attend the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF) in the Swiss ski resort of Davos and pay a short working visit to Switzerland.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/29/15 03:38 AM

Iran, Russia to create ‘joint bank’ for trade in national currencies – ambassador

http://rt.com/business/226875-russia-iran-currencies-trade/
January 28, 2015
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Iran and Russia are planning to switch their bilateral trade to national currencies for which the states will create a joint bank or a mutual account, Iran's ambassador to Russia, Mehdi Sanaei, has announced.

“Both sides plan to create a joint bank, or joint account, so that payments may be made in rubles and rials and there is an agreement to create a working group [for this],” Ambassador Sanaei told Sputnik on Tuesday.

“In order to do this, meetings need to be held between the deputy heads of the Central Banks of Russia and Iran,” Sanaei said. “I hope this visit will happen soon.”

Sanaei added that bilateral relations “are actively developing” and that 2014 was “a very fruitful year” for both countries.

Noting high tariffs on the exports of Iranian goods to Russia, Sanaei said that Tehran expects to sign an initial agreement with the Eurasian Economic Union in 2015.

Iran's Ambassador to Russia Mehdi Sanaei. (RIA Novosti/Mikhail Voskresenskiy) Iran's Ambassador to Russia Mehdi Sanaei. (RIA Novosti/Mikhail Voskresenskiy)

“I think that in 2015 we need to work on this so that Iran has concrete economic contracts with the EEU (Eurasian Economic Union)…Iran plans to use this opportunity for its exports to Russia and other [countries],” Sanaei said.

Iranian producers, according to the ambassador, hope to gain approval to export dairy and meat products within the next two months. “I hope that this happens because it’s very important. We were promised that this would be resolved in the first quarter, by the end of March,” the ambassador said.

The ambassador also announced that Moscow and Tehran are considering the possibility of creating a visa-free regime by signing a memorandum of understanding in 2015.

“It’s difficult for our businessmen to get a visa to Russia, especially a long-term visa, but we are happy that in 2014 our [foreign] ministers, [Sergey] Lavrov and [Mohammad] Zarif, agreed on the easing of the visa regime, especially for businessmen and tourists,” Sanaei said.

Iranian rial (Reuters/Saad Shalash)Iranian rial (Reuters/Saad Shalash)

Sanaei’s statements follow last week’s announcement that Iran is stopping mutual settlements in dollars with foreign countries.

READ MORE: Iran moves away from US dollar in foreign trade

After signing “bilateral monetary treaties” with several states, Iran is no longer planning to use the US dollar in trade with those states, Gholamali Kamyab, deputy head of the Central Bank of Iran (CBI), announced earlier. “In trade exchanges with foreign countries, Iran uses other currencies, including the Chinese yuan, euro, Turkish lira, Russian ruble, and South Korean won,” he said.

Russia already has a currency swap agreement with China, which could potentially lessen the US dollar's influence on the global energy and other markets.

READ MORE: Ditching US dollar: China, Russia launch financial tools in local currencies

But Iran, Russia, China, and several Latin American countries are not the only ones looking to ditch the US dollar in their trade. The Eurasian Economic Union, which also includes Belarus and Kazakhstan, is planning to create a single market for financial services by 2025 which will simplify switching to dollar-free trading. Late last year, the Russian State Duma proposed the creation of a single area for payment in national currencies. Such measures are expected to minimize Western influence on the economy of the EEU.

Last July, the group of emerging economies signed the long-anticipated document to create the US$100 billion BRICS Development Bank, and a reserve currency pool worth over another $100 billion. Both will counter the influence of Western-based lending institutions and the US dollar.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/29/15 08:17 AM

Interview with Dr. Jim Willie

I've just listened to this very interesting interview with Jim Willie. Anyone who is interested in hearing what is currently going on from a good informed expert point of view and what he thinks how things will unfold when the coming restructure happens; it is worthwhile the time. You can start at the 30 min. mark of part 1, that's when it gets interesting.

Quote:
covered numerous topics in the widespread global systemic breakdown, including the fast rise of the broken dying USDollar, the death of the Petro-Dollar defacto standard, the rejection of the USDollar, the growth in RMB-based trade settlement, and the advent of the BRICS Alliance, which will launch the Gold Standard through the trade door... the argument is smashed that an inadequate amount of gold exists to give coverage backing for major currencies of the world, since the Gold price at 4-fold or 5-fold higher price will easily provide cover for major currencies, matching the similar toxic expansion of USFed balance sheet

Jim Willie January 26 2015 (part 1)
Jim Willie January 26 2015 (part 2) - fixed
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/29/15 07:15 PM

Jim Willie: US Dollar Will Not Survive 2015!

http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-us-dollar-will-not-survive-2015/
January 28, 2015

"The forecast for fast acceleration of events into the January month has occurred on schedule. Normally a very big event occurs every several weeks, or every few months. In just the last three weeks, ten have taken place of significance.
The pace has quickened in an alarming fashion. The Great Quickening has commenced.

Something big, ugly, and nasty this way comes.
The disruptive events and pace of systemic breakdown are surely going to continue. The year will go down in history as extremely messy, extremely chaotic, and extremely important in the demise of the USDollar.

Check the 7-year cycle for an amazing sequence that goes back to the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo, the 1980 Gold & Silver Hunt Brothers peak, the 1987 Black Monday, the 1994 Irrational Exuberance with ensuing Asian Meltdown, the 2001 Inside 9/11 Job, and the 2008 Lehman failure.

The Year 2015 will be known for the USDollar demise with full fireworks.

With the acceleration of events in progress and in view, the pressures will grow against the entire King Dollar Court, the corrupt fortresses in Wall Street and London Centre, the crime syndicate hive.

The USDollar will not survive the year.

In the closing months of 2014, on numerous occasions the position was put forth that as the days of January stacked up, toward the end of the month and going into February, that the global financial structures would show severe strain, widespread disruptions, and possible signs of cracks in breakdown. The forecasts were clearly stated and repeated. Even the present flow of events has been shocking, despite the expectation.

The forecast certainly has proven correct.

The disruptive events and pace of systemic breakdown are surely going to continue. The year will go down in history as extremely messy, extremely chaotic, and extremely important in the demise of the USDollar.

Check the 7-year cycle for an amazing sequence that goes back to the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo, the 1980 Gold & Silver Hunt Brothers peak, the 1987 Black Monday, the 1994 Irrational Exuberance with ensuing Asian Meltdown, the 2001 Inside 9/11 Job, and the 2008 Lehman failure. The Year 2015 will be known for the USDollar demise with full fireworks, set up with Ukraine and the European repeat of Waterloo. A quickening pace of events is highly indicative in two natural types in nature, namely the lead up to a natural earthquake, and the lead up to a human childbirth.


KEY ACCELERANT EVENTS

The forecast about fast acceleration of events into the January month has occurred on schedule. Normally a very big event occurs every several weeks, or every few months. In just the last three weeks ten have taken place of significance. The pace has quickened in an alarming fashion. The Great Quickening has commenced. Something big ugly and nasty this way comes. The events are worth emphasis, since each has enormous implications and fallout.

1.Russia jumped off the Petro-Dollar recycle wagon. Their entire oil trade will not be kept in USDollars. Instead, it will be exchanged immediately into Rubles. Expect some to be converted into RMB for their bilateral trade with China. The Russian action is an integral part of the demise of the Petro-Dollar. They react to US-led boycott.

2. The Swiss removed the 120 Euro peg to their Franc currency. For over three years their central bank had maintained a hoard of paper mache Euro currencies that accumulated perhaps as much as 800 billion Euros. It became unsustainable. They ran a long USDollar trade with short Gold, which finally will go into reverse. The Langley crew had billions in SWFrancs stuffed in shrink wrapped palettes. They profited handsomely. The Swiss seem to have opened the gates of hell for the Gold market, and might have been slammed with a Gold margin call as leased gold bullion dried up.

3. The Greeks have prepared to exit the European Union and to default on debt. Their defiant Syriza party won a mandate, a clear leftist majority. Next comes some severe disruption. They might print money to pay off their external debt, which would be an ironic justice. Expect great repercussions within Greece into Europe, at the same time the Russians are passing a gas pipeline as carrot to Greece. With the pipeline will come valuable fees to the Greek nation. They will leave the European Union, with almost certainty. They will soon export food products to Russia, lifting the economy.

4. The Euro Central Bank announced details on their newest QE tampering. They are to pile on the bond and asset purchases, with a clever attempt to avoid it being corrosive unsterilized by means of cooperative gestures with member nations. Regardless of the details, the Germans are harsh critics of the Draghi procedures. The opposition has shaped up between the EuroCB and the Bundesbank. The Jackass is certain that Germany will leave the EU, leave the common Euro, and eventually leave NATO. The objection to the Draghi QE decision will lead to a major crisis in the European Union.

5. King Abdullah died and the transition for the royal family begins. He has been replaced by formerly crown prince Salman, who suffers from senile dementia, and will have a terrible time to hold power. The battle for succession has just begun, as rival tribes vie for power, after several decades of being excluded. The events inside Saudi boundaries will increase, turn more violent, and be highly disruptive. Pressure for reform will be fierce and unending.

6. Merkel has offered a trade union proposal to Russia, which discards the US-led TTIP trade pact. At the Davos Economic Summit, the German Chancellor actually offered a trade pact with Russia which implicitly rejected the US-led TransAtlantic Trade & Investment Partnership. The ironic part is that Merkel has proposed exactly what Russia & China have been developing for two years, known as the Eurasian Trade Zone. Germany is looking for a way out of the European Union.

7. The German watchdog financial cop BaFin found no improper manipulation in the gold market. They mean from the DeutscheBank perspective. This decision is a setback for the camp that opposes corrupt markets in bond values, currency exchange rates, bank accounting. The backlash could come from numerous flanks, all of which seek justice and fair markets. Market rigging seems never to cease as the climax nears. In Germany, two camps are divided. The politicians are dominated by the banker elite, although loud rumblings come from the ministers levels. The industrial captains manage commerce, and wish to avoid profound economic damage. The US alliance is no longer working toward German benefit. The industrial camp will prevail, but with a huge battle and many unknowns to come.

8. The Swiss have set up a major RMB trading center in Zurich. An interesting competition is certain to unfold as London, Zurich, and Frankfurt compete for Chinese financial flow in RMB terms. Refer to currency exchange, bond issuance, and direct investment (FDI). While London has the tradition and Zurich has the prestige, the Germans have been hand-picked by the Kremlin and Beijing to serve as the cradle and crucible for European linkage to Asia. The industrial ties to Russia and China extend from Germany, along with huge and growing trade and investment.

9. The details for Gazprom pipeline extension through Turkey have been revealed, by way of the Black Sea, with volume stated in the plans. In a brilliant stroke, Gazprom decided abruptly to cut off Ukraine on the pipeline construction. It will not pass through Eastern Europe, where USGovt bribery, threats, and corrupt business plans were taking place to block plans. Instead, the pipeline will pass through Turkey, with announced hub on the Greek border. It is being dubbed Turk Stream. The construction will take at least 18 months. In the meantime, the European nations will have to struggle to find a way to connect to its gas lines, and to avoid wreckage from their errant destructive US alliance.

10. The USEconomy had an enormous miss in expected Durable Good orders. The list of job cuts and project cutbacks in the US, Canadian, British, and European Economies was six pages in length for a recent work toward the January Hat Trick Letter. It was refined to a few pages. It is a veritable procession of business failure from failed monetary and economic policy failure. The USEconomy is stuck in a multi-year powerful recession. QE aggravates the economic deterioration. Numerous major name corporations are making utterly huge astonishing job cuts, the most recent being IBM. Big banks and energy related firms dominate in such news.

Events are flowing extremely rapidly, even at a dizzying pace. It is not remotely possibly to anticipate the next critical event, but one can surely expect something every two to three days recently, something of urgent important with extreme consequence.

In addition to the above events, the US & Canadian shale oil & gas sector is shutting down, without a single event to point to. The shale subprime debt implosion is imminent, already have triggered. The damage will be progressively worse over time.

The 2015 year is off with a very unstable bang, exactly as expected. Notice that none of the above events pertain to the BRICS Alliance.

Their movement will enforce the Global Paradigm Shift to bring about a return of the Gold Standard. Since the US-UK bankers control the financial sector in FOREX currencies and sovereign bonds and banking systems, the East will make steadfast progress in bring back the Gold Standard from the trade ramps. Details to above events, the universal disruption, and the BRICS initiatives are covered in the Hat Trick Letter.


KING DOLLAR PILLAR BREAKDOWN

With the acceleration of events in progress and in view, the pressures will grow against the entire King Dollar Court, the corrupt fortresses in Wall Street and London Centre, the crime syndicate hive. The USDollar will not survive the year. It might not vanish this year, but will surely show its eventual destination in the dustbin of history.
The four legs of the Petro-Dollar might be described as being the banking system, the FOREX currencies, the sovereign bonds, and crude oil.


a) After the Lehman killjob crisis failure, the banking system turned insolvent. Thanks to the FASB accounting rules that were bent, the banks have continued as hollow reed pillars. They have been on the one side been settling law suits and investor claims, while on the other side been kept liquid by means of narco money laundering (confirmed by the United Nations). If one big Western bank enters failure, the entire set of big banks will risk failure simultaneously in direct contagion.

b) The major currencies are in a grand disruption right here right now. The rush into the USD for settling derivatives and as safe haven has rattled the FOREX worse than at any time in recent history, perhaps including the 1995 Asian Meltdown. The emerging market debt involves several $trillion in volume, all of which rose on the balance for the debt burden. Defaults lie directly ahead. The USEconomy will be greatly victimized by the higher USD valuation, with respect to stock and property investments, in addition to export trade.

c) The sovereign bonds are being supported by Quantitative Easing, the highly corrosive monetary policy by the US Federal Reserve. Other central banks had been well coordinated at the Bank of England, the European Central Bank, and the Bank of Japan. If not direct money printing, it is their usage of Dollar Swap Facilities. In the last couple months, evidence has grown that the major central banks are on their own, acting to preserve their economies, and taking action with local motive. The USGovt raided the Japanese $1.2 trillion pension fund. The Swiss ensured that all nations will break the coordinated monetary policy with the USFed.

d) The connection between the USDollar and Crude Oil price has been broken, in ways not described or reported in the press. A vast system of FOREX derivatives are being dissolved that connect to the Crude Oil price, resulting on lost control. The rising USD and falling oil price is evidence of the breakdown. The relationship between the USGovt and the Saudis has deteriorated to alarming levels, despite the photo ops on display to deceive. The Saudis have been working on monthly conferences with the Beijing leaders, in what could be called a lovefest for economic cooperation and financial joining at the oil hip. The Saudis and other Gulf Emirate nations will be working to convert their combined $2.2 trillion in sovereign wealth funds into diversified assets, led by Gold. These Arabs will work to replace their Gold bullion stolen in Swiss banks.


USDOLLAR DEATH FORETOLD

The high exchange rates seen to favor the USDollar does not mean it is strong. The global movement in fast clear trend is the wider usage of Chinese RMB. On at least 20 different bilateral conduits, the Chinese trade is almost exclusively done in RMB terms. The Yuan Swap Facility with numerous nations like Australia and New Zealand, lately Switzerland, Germany, and Canada, and several smaller Asian nations assures steadily higher RMB trade settlement. Even US corporations are fast converting USDollars to RMB which assure their import supply lines. The standard of USD trade settlement is going away.

The USDollar is dying like a rocket, shooting upward. Methinks the Petro-Dollar linkages are all broken. As a result, the USD rises, and correspondingly oil falls. Most people attach motive to the price movement. Doing so is erroneously. Instead, the price mechanisms are broken, predominantly a structural effect across most financial markets in an alarming development. The lost control is being manifested in a higher USDX index. It is paradoxically evidence of a dying King Dollar and a failure of its court.

Huge pressures are building. The year 2015 will be when the system openly breaks down, when steadfast US allies break ranks from the King Dollar Court, and work to enable their nations to survive. The year 2015 will be when the entire world (East & West) openly calls for the retirement of the USDollar in order to end the destruction, fraud, madness, war, and chaos. The USFed with its corrosive QE has hastened the major nations of the world to rush toward implementation of the Gold Standard. They must install it from the trade ramps, not the financial ramps. They are in race with time, since their economies are faltering.

Mahatma Gandhi was a sage. He has a famous quote best presented in summary form. “Seven Deadly Sins: Wealth without work, Pleasure without conscience, Science without humanity, Knowledge without character, Politics without principle, Commerce without morality, Worship without sacrifice.” Without any hesitation, equivocation, or doubt, all these important sins are growing trends and priorities in modern United States.

London Paul summarized well the current path of disruption and powerful change. “The so-called experts have thrived in a world which was all about obfuscation. As this paradigm collapses, they are desperately trying to hang onto a totally failed construct and refuse to accept the reality of what is coming. The alternative terrifies them to their very core. Greece was a clear indication that the masses are waking up in significant numbers to the insanity of a cabal agenda of death, destruction, and grand larceny all wrapped as being in our best interests. When I have spoken before about a time which will be savage and uncompromising, it was in my opinion a realistic assessment of what is coming. However, when we get through the other side, the world will transform out of recognition and in ways that would seem impossible from our current frame of reference. So we continue to accumulate Gold & Silver to protect ourselves against the financial carnage that is coming. Humanity is going to go through a very sharp learning curve and will have to work together for common goals and aspirations as it should always have been. Necessity is the mother of invention and we will all have to go through that process of total reinvention. The level of ruthless manipulation to divide and conquer humanity for decades and beyond will become clear and it will truly shock humanity.”


GOLD RALLY IN FOREIGN CURRENCY

The gold market is rallying in the Yen terms, in the Euro terms, and in the CanDollar terms. The Swiss have ignited a global gold rally. They very likely covered a short gold position in a complex arbitrage trade. Notice the gold price decline from the $1900/oz level began at about the same time the Swiss announced their Euro 120 peg in late 2011. Notice the gold reversal has begun exactly at the time of the Swiss de-peg decision. It might be easy to conclude that the Swiss National Bank financed their Euro peg by crushing the Gold market. In the three and a half years during their peg, the gold price lost one third of its value on the corrupt COMEX market. With the Swiss lit fuse, no turning back. The reversals are significant. In Switzerland, the people have been given a hefty gold price discount due to the rising SWFranc currency. The Gold price in USD terms will be the last event, the ultimate event in confirmation.


HUNGARY BOTH SMART & HOT SPOT
The Jackass has no problem admitting an error. They can be valuable learning opportunities. The last big error was made in expecting a higher USTreasury Bond yield in 2011. Big error indeed, as the learning curve featured forced comprehension of the powerful Interest Rate Swap derivatives. With Morgan Stanley putting on $8.5 trillion in IRSwaps in a mere six months time going into end 2010, the USTreasurys rallied with rising price and falling yield. This contrary event occurred despite greater USGovt debt, fewer USTBond investors, and a debt rating downgrade. The paradox is explained with the vast IRSwap machinery. Thanks to Rob Kirby, the Jackass learned more about the derivatives and the fabricated bond demand from computers, managed by JPMorguen. Too bad Bill Gross of PIMCO did not hire Kirby as a consultant.


The latest error is minor, but interesting. The Jackass had stated recently in reports that Poland, Hungary, and other Eastern European nations were all exposed to home mortgages in Swiss Franc denomination. With a rising SWFranc exchange rate, their aggregate mortgage debt balances will be damaged from having risen in amount. They will have a higher debt burden suddenly. The Polish are exposed. However, in a three step process, the Hungarians side stepped the risk in a very clever adept maneuver. The Orban Admin forced the banks to convert all foreign currency denominated property mortgages into Hungarian Forint (HUF) mortgages. Note that the switcharoo took place just a couple of months before the Swiss central bank de-peg. The HUF is not pegged to any currency including the USDollar or Euro. The correction was given by a sharp Hungarian Hat Trick Letter client, who has been valuable not only with respect to matters pertaining to his country like the South Stream Gazprom pipeline project, but also to events in nearby Ukraine. Prime Minister Viktor Orban might be at risk. He has fended off the USGovt fascist pressures to block the Gazprom pipeline. He has gone on an independent path. He might be a Langley target. Maybe Budapest will be treated to some public shootings or explosions by yet more lone gunmen, like in Paris following the President Hollande comments in opposition to continued Russian sanctions.


CONCLUSION

People had better prepare themselves for some conclusion events, certain to occur with fireworks. The USDollar is soon to go away, put to rest, killed off. Its rise signals its demise. The hidden dismantle of the Petro-Dollar mechanism has been eerie, mysterious, and full of intrigue. The Gold Standard will return, but through the trade window. The solution to the untreated Global Financial Crisis is the gold route. The Eurasian Trade Zone will be built upon the gold route, and see a revival of the Silk Road. It cannot be stopped, not even by war. The safe haven is not the USDollar, but rather Gold & Silver bars & coins, otherwise defined as money.


The crisis is better described as the Global Monetary War. Any nation wishing to establish trade or a monetary system centered upon gold is branded a rogue nation, subject to extreme propaganda. This is precisely why Russia is being vilified, since they want no more USDollar in trade or banking, and lead a global movement to discard the USD as global reserve currency. The solution is with precious metals as the core to banking, trade, and currency, even wealth preservation. The new 2015 year will be exciting. As the Jackass forecasted, 2014 did indeed end much differently from the way it began. The agents of change are working at hyper-speed now. The USDollar is doomed, and its captains are running for their lives. They are not worth bargaining with in magnanimous cut deals. Better to treat them like fire ants and bothersome fleas and diseased rodents and rabid dogs. The return of Gold to its primacy is long overdue.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/07/15 01:12 AM

Chinese banks to join new gold fix from March

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102390692#.

2 Feb 2015
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The replacement for the near-century-old London gold fix will start in March, with the hope of attracting at least 11 members, including Chinese banks for the first time.

UK financial authorities are undertaking an assessment of financial benchmarks in the wake of a series of scandals, including over the gold fix.

The presence of Chinese banks would give the world's second-largest consumer of the precious metal a greater say in the global gold price. Participants in the fix aggregate orders from clients on to a platform to determine the price.

"Interest has been very positive and creates a more diverse pool of participants, which includes Chinese banks," said Ruth Crowell, chief executive of the London Bullion Market Association, a trade body for London's gold and silver markets.

n October, China Construction Bank, the country's second-biggest state-owned bank, was admitted as an ordinary member of the LBMA.

Industrial and Commercial Bank of China and Bank of China are also members.

Read More: Is this the start of a gold bull market?

London's gold market is an over-the-counter market between buyers and sellers, while prices in China are set through trading on the Shanghai Gold Exchange.

However, the Financial Conduct Authority has yet to issue guidance about how it will regulate the new electronic auction, run by energy exchange operator Intercontinental Exchange, after banks opted out of a system that had been in place since September 1919 amid growing criticism that it favoured insiders.

More from the Financial Times:

Could record slide in crude oil price be ending?
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"Without clear guidance from the FCA now and forthcoming final rules, participants will be unable to gain internal approval to take part in the new process," the LBMA said in a letter to the FCA. "If a significant number of participants cannot get approval to take part due to lack of regulatory clarity, there will be a disruption."

The old telephone system of fixing the daily gold price presently involves only four banks.

Last May, the system drew increasing scrutiny from regulators after Barclays was fined £26 million for its failure to rein in an options trader who, in 2012, drove the gold price lower to avoid paying £2.3 million to one of the lender's clients.

In December, the FCA said it would police seven UK-based financial benchmarks following the attempted manipulation of key rates for bank lending and foreign exchange, extending the regulation introduced in 2013 to strengthen Libor. It is set to regulate the gold fix from April 1, according to the LBMA.

"We announced a consultation on 22nd December into the seven benchmarks we would be regulating, which included the gold fix. That consultation closed on January 30 and we have said we intend to come forward with final rules before the end of the first quarter 2015," the FCA said.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/07/15 01:23 AM

China overtakes US for foreign investment

Feb 1, 2015

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China has surpassed the United States as the top destination for foreign direct investment (FDI), a position held by the US for 11 years, a United Nations organization says.

The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) recently published a report showing China had attracted USD 127.6 billion in foreign investment in 2014 compared to USD 86 billion invested by foreign businesses in the US.

In addition, the report said China’s special administrative region Hong Kong also stood at the second spot ahead of the US after it attracted USD 111 billion in foreign investment.

When compared to the previous year, foreign investment in the US plummeted by 63 percent from USD 230.8 billion, while China saw a small increase from USD 123.9 billion.

James Zahn, director of Investment and Enterprise at UNCTAD, said contributing factors to the increase in foreign investment in China were structural changes in inflows to the country, “from manufacturing toward services, and from labor-intensive to tech-intensive.”

The UNCTAD data also showed that foreign investment in developing nations rose by four percent in 2014, whereas developed nations saw a decline of 14 percent, mostly due to the large fall in the US.

China world’s largest economy

The report comes nearly two months after the International Monetary Fund (IMF) said China has overtaken the US as the world’s largest economy. The US had held the top position since 1872 when it overtook Britain.

Last October, the IMF projected that China’s economy will be 20 percent larger than that of the US by 2019.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/07/15 01:52 AM

My Comment : Another country has removed their currency "peg" from the Fed Reserve Bank. The definition of peg is "A country or government's exchange-rate policy of pegging the central bank's rate of exchange to another country's currency." So basically their currency is no longer being linked to the USD petro-dollar.

Once Switzerland removed their currency peg from the USD, it's value was free to float to its true value. It went up by 30%. Costa Rica just removed (Jan 31) their currency peg from the USD (see article below), while Russia did it just last November (http://www.theeventchronicle.com/finanace/russia-ends-dollareuro-currency-peg-moves-free-float/).

Yesterday, Denmark was telling us that they are trying to keep their peg with the Euro-Fed(http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...-75-to-save-peg); but I think this is just to prepare everyone that they tried to keep it but will shortly remove it also. We know that Greece will soon follow.

All countries will soon be removing it's peg from the USD and let their currency free-float naturally in the market so their currency will reflect their true value. That's how it's suppose to be from the start and not be decided by 1% Elite group of Babylon depending on how the countries fit their agenda and serve their purposes. Currently, some currencies has been over-evaluated(like the USD & Euro), and others has been severely and unjustly supressed (Iraki Dinars and the Vietnam Dong). So re-evaluation of the currencies by letting it free-float is part of the process to restructure and reset the world economic system.


Costa Rica moves to free-floating currency

http://www.ticotimes.net/2015/01/31/costa-rica-moves-to-free-floating-currency

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Costa Rica announced that it would remove the country’s nine-year-old currency band system in favor of a floating exchange against the U.S. dollar, according to a statement from the Central Bank (BCCR) Saturday.

The BCCR had not taken any measures to adjust the value of the colón, Costa Rica’s currency, outside the band since Dec. 12, 2013, arguing that the currency had been in a “de facto” float since then.

On Oct. 17, 2006, the BCCR announced that it would implement the currency band, which established a floor and ceiling price between which the colón could float before the Central Bank would take steps to adjust its value. The band system was implemented as a way to gradually move the country from a fixed exchange to a floating one.

The colón has depreciated roughly 8 percent against the U.S. dollar since February 2014, selling at 543 on Saturday, according to Monex. The BCCR said that Costa Rica had more than $7.3 billion in reserves.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/07/15 02:49 AM

My Comment: Well last year, April 24, the federal court ruled in favor to some citizens who brought the Canadian Central Bank(Bank of Canada = BOC) to court. "This court case challenges the disuse of the Bank of Canada to create money for the public good." Another case was won Jan 26th 2015(see youtube video interview with Rocco Galati, prominent lawyer of the case: Comer vs BOC). Everyone was surprise they(citizens) had won the case.

I'm amazed(but not surprised) that we haven't heard of it yet in the media.

"THIS IS HUGE! Court Demands Bank Of Canada return to it's original mandate issuing it's currency Debt free Harper Government orders MEDIA BLACKOUT of this case"


HISTORICAL COURT RULING IN CANADA AGAINST PRIVATE CENTRAL BANKING

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=98b_1422999032

http://investmentwatchblog.com/canadian-...drFfRkARqZo7.99

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The Bank of Canada used to be a government lending institution, creating near interest free loans that built much of Canada’s infrastructure during the 50’s and 60’s. In 1974 at the Bank of International Settlements in Basel Switzerland, Trudeau Sr. was convinced by fellow Bilderberg attendees to dismantle this crucial function of the Bank of Canada, and since then we’ve lost sovereign control of our monetary policies and money supply and government debt at all levels has risen dramatically.This court case challenges the disuse of the Bank of Canada to create money for the public good.
The Federal Court of Canada has ruled against private central banking. Meanwhile, the Harper GovrenmentTM has ordered a media black out on this court case. Lets help spread the word!


Here is the Decision from the April 24, 2014 Appeal: http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/72554/index.do

Interview with Rocco Galati, prominent lawyer of the latest case Comer vs BOC : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgdyWPxLf1s
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/12/15 03:58 PM

My Comment: Below is a very good report and complilation of news done by Stephen Jones concerning the recent Minsk meeting between Putin(Russia), Hollande(France), Merkel(Germany), and Poroshenko(Ukraine) without inviting others like USA or NATO. It appears that Febuary 17 is the deadline for Mystery Babylon (owners of Fed Res.) to pay-up bonds due to the Chinese Royal Familes. While they can't pay it, there's talk of a plan for World War III. However, it appears there operation have been caught by Merkel and that's was the purpose of that meeting.


Minsk Summit and Watching February 17

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2015/02-2015/watching-february-17-23/
Feb 11, 2015

"Benjamin Fulford reported yesterday in his blog:

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Several e-mails were sent to this writer using complex cabalistic numerology to explain that February 17th would be the day that World War 3 starts.

He expresses no opinion on this, but he understands that February 17 is certainly a very important economic deadline for Europe. He writes further,

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The Zionazi regime in Washington D.C. is also in trouble as it has yet to find a source of financing to keep it going after February 17th. The same is true for the European financial system.

Last week, in his February 3rd blog, he explained:

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Meanwhile, the US corporate government faction supporting Obama is also in trouble. The Asian elders refused to roll over US corporate debt that came due on January 31st, according to Chinese government sources.

In other words, some debts (bonds?) came due on January 31st. Such debts are usually renewed, or “rolled over,” but in this case the Asian elders want full repayment. Since the US corporation (government) lacked the money to repay, they were threatened with a default, but they were given until February 17 to find the money.

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On the financial front, the European Union is struggling to prevent the new Greek government’s vow to cancel debt from destroying the EU financial system. In the United States the corporate government is frantically trying to scrape up survival money before February 17th, the time they have been given to find funds after missing a January 31st payment deadline.

How is it that the US is running short of money? He cites an article from Forbes on January 13, 2015, in which the IRS was saying that tax refunds could be delayed for lack of funds.

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Headline: IRS Warns Of Delayed Refunds, Long Waits For Taxpayers & Possible Shutdown
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillip...sible-shutdown/

Beyond this, I have no information and have not had time to research it fully.

However, Richard Russell, the grandfather of financial newsletters, who is now 90 years old, is warning of a stock market crash in the near future. To see who Richard Russell is, look here:

http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/richard-russell

Anyway, he was interviewed by King World News (KWN) in an article published today, where he told people that he was recommending that his clients sell all of their stocks and buy gold.

http://kingworldnews.com/richard-russell-world-now-headed-frightening-death-spiral/

Government reports, of course, show that all is well, and the economy is doing very well. We have recovered fully from the crash of 2008, they say. But if you look at what is being said by those who look deeper, you find that the fundamentals are worse today than they were in 2008. The derivatives market is much more precarious, world debt has gone from $142 trillion to $199 trillion, and the Baltic Dry Index (which measures shipping and world trade) has now dropped lower than it was during the height of the banking crisis in 2008. In fact, it never really recovered from its previous high. See the chart here:

http://investmenttools.com/futures/bdi_baltic_dry_index.htm

All of this provides background for a possible crisis or turning point on February 17. Considering the fact that virtually all large corporations have an astrologer or some other type of occultist on their payrolls, it is quite certain that all (or most of them) would take the “cabalistic numerology” seriously (from the Fulford quote at the beginning). In other words, whether we give credence to such things or not, the point is that THEY DO. What steps might they take, then, to protect themselves? If everyone sells their stock at the same time, the markets crash.

It has to do with perception, not with the fundamental value of the stocks. In fact, the entire banking system and various currencies, which used to have value based upon its gold backing, is now valued according to peoples “faith.” It is a faith-based system, having no more value than what the people perceive it to have.

This is why the government spends so much time giving sermons about faith in money, the stock market, and the economy. They do it to bolster our faith. They write their own economic Bible and then quote their own manipulated figures to prove their case. And they believe that this is what they were elected to do. Lies are built into their faith-based system, and the end justifies the means.

That is the reality, and the more we recognize this, the better prepared we will be when their man-made religion proves to be false.

The Ukraine Situation

The current president of Ukraine goes by the name of Petro Poroshenko. Fulford revealed his background in his blog on February 3, 2015,

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Let us start with a closer look at what is happening in the Ukraine. According to Russian intelligence, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko’s real name is Valshman. Citing New York court records, the Russians say he is a dual Israeli US citizen of Romanian ancestry who took on his wife’s name to appear Ukrainian.

Remember Victoria Nuland, the Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs in the US State Department? She is the one whose phone was tapped, and whose conversation showed that she had been given a $5 billion budget to pay people to overthrow the Ukrainian government a year ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

Fulford reported a few days ago that Nuland’s assistant was arrested by the Germans, and that he confessed the whole sordid story.

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(Benjamin Fulford) Germans have arrested Victoria Nuland’s assistant, who in addition, is an employee of Vanguard Corporation, with almost a billion of high quality fake dollars, printed by Vanguard Corporation. This employee (is a member of the State Department), and now, during his interrogations, he “put under bus” Vanguard Corporation with all of its companies and “putting under bus” Nuland, McCain, Kerry, Brennan and others…

He testified how the Vanguard Corporation has printed billions of high quality fake dollars and paid to mercenaries in Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, Libya, etc and paid mercenaries of Greystone and ISIS. He testifies about connections and oil deals between Vanguard Corporation and ISIS….

He described how all of the major mass murders and atrocities were organized by the Vanguard Corporation and Greystone mercenaries; how he communicated with Igor Kolomoyskiy and how together they were spreading fake dollars in Ukraine…

Germans promised him freedom, to hide him and support if he will tell everything he knows…

http://www.theeventchronicle.com/intel/benjamin-fulford-breaking-news-russian-sources/

The Vanguard Corporation is a financial company, based in Malvern, PA, that manages about $3 trillion for investors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vanguard_Group

According to Fulford, this Vanguard Group counterfeited US dollars to finance the Ukrainian coup and to pay bribes that would install the right government officials in the new government of Ukraine. He says that Victoria Nuland was the main liaison between Vanguard and the US State Department.

The arrest of the Vanguard employee in January, he says, and the information that he gave investigators, is what caused Germany and France to break away from the US policy and to go to Russia to meet with Putin without the consent or approval of the US State Department.

So on February 9, 2015 Fulford wrote in a blog,

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The defeat of the international Zionazi crime cabal is now inevitable due to rapidly unfolding events around the world, most notably in the Middle East and the Ukraine. The arrest by Germany last week (as reported in this blog) of a US government official carrying billions of dollars in forged US $100 bills destined for the Ukraine has had enormous and ongoing repercussions. The Pentagon contacted this writer to say this was “actionable intelligence….”

The discovery that American State Department officials were supplying forged dollars to both sides of the battle in the Eastern Ukraine has already caused Germany and France to split with the Zionazi regime in Washington D.C. German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Francois Hollande already met Russia’s Vladimir Putin last week without US approval and are planning on another meeting Wednesday. There is very little leaking in public about the talks but, according to Russian sources, France and Germany are seriously thinking of leaving NATO and creating alternative security arrangements with Russia.

The US official arrested by Germany has spilled the beans on exactly how the Zionazis were orchestrating the civil war in the Ukraine. The Vanguard Corporation, a front for the Federal Reserve Board (according to MI5) has paid mercenaries to kill people on both side of the conflict there so that they would blame it on each other. They also gave money to buy weapons to both sides of the conflict.

This is the same modus operandi they used to destroy Yugoslavia. It is the one also now in operation in Syria and Iraq.

Some day the full truth will be known about this, but not until the Western oligarchs lose power over the mainstream media. At the present time, we have to wonder what may transpire between February 17 and 23.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/12/15 04:20 PM

Egypt to join Russia-led Eurasian free trade zone

Recall on May 29, 2014 Russia, Kazakhstan, and Belarus has signed the Eurasian agreement:

http://rt.com/business/162200-russia-bealrus-kazakhstan-union/
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Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan signed the historic Eurasian Economic Union which will come into effect in January 2015. Cutting down trade barriers and comprising over 170 million people it will be the largest common market in the ex-Soviet sphere.

"The just-signed treaty is of epoch-making, historic importance," Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

The troika of countries will cooperate in energy, industry, agriculture, and transport.

"In fact, we are shaping the largest common market in the CIS, with huge production, scientific and technological potential and enormous natural resources," the President added.

Citizens of Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan will have the right to work freely throughout the member states without having to be issued any special work permits, Putin said....


Egypt is now joining the Eurasian agreement.

http://rt.com/business/230987-egypt-russia-free-trade/
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Egypt has established a free trade zone with the Russian-led Eurasian Economic Union, which includes Russia, Armenia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, president Sisi of Egypt announced at a joint news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“We have reached an agreement to establish a free trade zone between Egypt and the Eurasian Economic Union," Egyptian President Abdel al-Sisi said.

There was more than $4.5 billion of trade between Russia and Egypt in 2014, a more than 80 percent increase on the year before, said President Putin.

Now it will be easier for Egyptian products to reach the markets of Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Armenia, and vice-versa.

The possibility of setting up a free trade zone with Europe was discussed by Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan last summer at a conference in Sochi.
The two countries also agreed to create a Russian industrial zone near the Suez Canal. Russian businesses have stakes in more than 400 Egyptian companies.

Russia and Egypt will work jointly on new investment projects, especially in transport, manufacturing, and energy – both oil and nuclear.

Lukoil, Russia’s second largest oil company produces more than 16 percent of the oil coming from Egypt.

Russia will help Egypt develop nuclear power plants and train personnel to create a new nuclear power industry in the country.

READ MORE: Trade, tourism & dumping dollars: Putin building bridges in Egypt

Egypt also wants to boost profits from Russian tourists. The country’s tourist sector suffered greatly due to a downgrade in security in the wake of the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak in 2011 and is currently struggling to win back foreign visitors.

In 2014, more than 3 million Russians traveled to Egypt for tourism despite the worsening economic situation in Russia.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/21/15 04:20 PM

Will seek new ways of cooperation with China: Greek PM

http://thebricspost.com/will-seek-new-ways-of-cooperation-with-china-greek-pm/#.VOiAaebF8ud

February 20, 2015

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Even as Greece continues negotiations over a bailout deal with the European Union, Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras on Thursday praised bilateral cooperation between his country and China.

“We will seek new ways of cooperation between the Greek state and the Chinese side,” Tsipras said in a speech delivered at a reception hosted by the 18th escort fleet of the Chinese navy at Piraeus port.

Tsipras said his government will support China’s shipping conglomerate COSCO’s investment at Piraeus port, as well as Chinese investments in other sectors across Greece.

Talks between Greece and its 18 eurozone partners over the extension to Tsipras’ government’s bailout package broke down acrimoniously in Brussels.

Meanwhile, Tsipras underlined the significance of Sino-Greek collaboration in such operations in Libya and in Albania in the past.

“Greece will always stand by the side of Chinese people when needed,” Tsipras said.

Thursday’s event was attended among others by Greek Defense Minister Panos Kammenos and Chinese Ambassador to Greece Zou Xiaoli.

Greece’s Defense Minister Panos Kammenos said the two nations must boost defense ties.

“The visit of the 18th escort fleet of the Chinese navy is a great honor. It proves that good cooperation between the two nations can continue, and apart from the business sector, it can be extended in the defense industry,” he said.

Chinese Ambassador to Greece Zou Xiaoli said both Greece and China have contributed greatly to the ancient oceanic civilization.

“I am confident that the traditional friendly Sino-Greek relationship will be further developed based on the principle of mutual respect, mutual trust and win-win cooperation, benefiting the two peoples and making greater contribution to regional peace and cooperation, ” said Zou.

Three ships of the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLA Navy) of the 18th escort fleet sailed in the port of Piraeus on Monday, after taking part in international anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden and off Somalia’s coasts.

The 18th Chinese naval escort fleet concludes the visit to Greece on Friday, ending a tour across Europe which also included Britain, Germany, the Netherlands and France.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/28/15 05:15 PM

It's time for China to bid farewell to the dollar peg

https://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2015/2/24/china/its-time-china-bid-farewell-dollar-peg

GUONAN MA 24 FEB, 12:35 PM
ECONOMY CHINA

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The Chinese renminbi (RMB) depreciated 2.5 per cent against the US dollar in 2014. This was the first depreciation since 2005, when Beijing timidly started loosening its tight dollar peg. Recently, the RMB has repeatedly tested the weak side of its daily trading band, despite attempts by the People’s Bank of China (PBC) to signal its preference for a steadier bilateral RMB-USD rate via its daily fixing (Figure 1, left panel). What has led to the changing fortunes of the RMB? What lies ahead for the currency in 2015?

I can think of several possible factors leading to the most recent bout of weakness in the bilateral RMB-USD exchange rate.

The most obvious culprit is the broad strength of the US dollar (Figure 1, right panel). For instance, since start-2014, the euro and yen have weakened by 15 per cent against the dollar, respectively. Consequently, the Chinese ‘redback’ has also weakened slightly against the almighty American ‘greenback’, though the RMB is still outperforming most other major and emerging market currencies. According to BIS statistics, the RMB gained some 7 per cent in effective terms in 2014 and has remained one of the few strong currencies globally.

The second and related factor is the monetary policy divergence between China and the US. Whereas the US Fed is expected to start raising its policy rate and has already stopped further unconventional (net) bond buying, the PBC has embarked on a cycle of monetary easing. Hence the anticipated interest rate differential between the two currencies is narrowing.

The third factor concerns the underlying currency valuation. Over the past decade, the RMB has gained 50 per cent on a broad real effective basis, a strength few major advanced or emerging market currencies can match. Even allowing for fast Chinese productivity growth, there are now questions about whether the RMB is already fairly valued or even somewhat overvalued. Simply put, the once broad-based market consensus of an undervalued RMB is gone, after its massive cumulative appreciation.

Fourth, more market participants are becoming worried about signs of increased stress in the Chinese financial system. As the exchange rate is one of the most important financial asset prices, how can one expect an ever-stronger RMB on top of a more fragile Chinese financial sector? It makes little sense to dread Chinese shadow banking and to preach meaningful RMB appreciation at the same time.

Finally, the PBC appears to have taken a more hands-off approach towards managing the RMB. Since early 2014, it has intervened less in the FX market and widened the daily trading band. But it has also occasionally stepped in to restore market functioning, disrupting carry trade and successfully injecting some 2-way volatility. A growing offshore RMB market in Hong Kong also adds to its interactions with the onshore RMB market, with risk sentiment possibly playing a bigger role in RMB exchange rate dynamics. We estimate the offshore RMB turnover to have more than doubled in the past two years.

Hence a mighty US dollar, monetary policy divergence, currency valuation concerns, and less PBC intervention all combine to sway currency expectations, raise volatility and narrow interest rate differentials. Thus the implied Sharpe ratio declines, prompting an increase in Chinese corporate hedging of dollar liabilities, with rising dollar deposits and a more rapid extinguishing of Chinese corporate dollar debts, estimated at more than US$1trillion in 2014. Added to Chinese demand for US dollars have been the growing overseas acquisitions by Chinese companies.

In balance-of-payments terms, the fourth quarter of 2014 saw the largest Chinese capital outflow in 16 years, and official foreign exchange reserves have fallen steadily since mid-2014, though this is in part due to valuation effects. In short, demand for US dollars by Chinese residents has risen, weakening the RMB-USD exchange rate.

What will happen next? It depends a lot on how the PBC will respond to Chinese corporate dollar buying. I envision three possibilities.

First, the PBC could cling more tightly to the dollar peg in ‘stormy weather’, just like it did in the 2008 Global Financial Crisis and the 1998 Asian Financial Crisis. The result will be a heavy deflationary blow to the Chinese economy in an environment of persistent dollar strength, a PBC put on the RMB firmly instilled into market expectations and some brief sense of stability. In this case, the looser dollar peg could tighten again.

Second, the PBC could take a ‘laissez faire’ approach, completely stepping back from the currency market to let it clear itself, perhaps in a wider trading band. This would result in sharp volatility and even some corporate stress unless capital controls were tightened considerably. In this case, the loose dollar peg could vanish fast.

A third and more likely scenario would be for the PBC to let the RMB move more freely against the dollar but prepare to lean against the wind by selling dollars out of its official reserves from time to time while keeping a watchful eye on cross-border capital flows. In this case, the loose dollar peg would start fading gradually.

This last approach makes sense for a number of reasons. In the short term, it would help deliver a warranted Chinese monetary easing by helping stabilise the effective exchange rate and an orderly unwinding of the Chinese corporate carry trade. In the longer term, it would help enhance two-way currency flexibility ahead of fuller interest rate deregulation and greater capital account liberalisation.

This 20-year old but increasingly loose dollar peg has served the Chinese economy well as a simple nominal anchor, but its time is up. First, as the biggest trading nation and second largest economy on earth, China is simply too big to be anchored to any single currency, even in a loose fashion. Second, a much more flexible RMB is needed before full interest rate liberalisation and substantial capital opening. Third, a dollar peg has often amplified external shocks to the Chinese economy rather than absorbing them, in part because of the dollar’s safe haven role. Finally, the US no longer welcomes a renewed Chinese peg to its currency and yet demands nothing but ‘one-direction flexibility’.

It's high time the PBC starts seriously letting the aging dollar peg go.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/09/15 03:44 PM

My comment: This article suggest that China (along with its partners -- mainly Russia) will take control of Gold pricing on April 1st.

The new London gold fix and China

http://www.goldmoney.com/research/analysis/the-new-london-gold-fix-and-china?gmrefcode=gata

By Alasdair Macleod
Posted 06 March 2015

"From 1st April the Financial Conduct Authority will extend its powers from regulating the participants to regulating the fix as well. This will transfer price control away from the bullion banks allowing direct access to the fixing process for all direct participants and sponsored clients.

From this flow two important consequences. Firstly, the London market is changing from an unregulated to a partially regulated market, reducing room for price manipulation. And secondly, the major Chinese state-owned banks, assuming they register as direct participants, have the opportunity to dominate the London physical market without having to deal through one of the current fixing banks. No announcement has been made yet as to who the direct participants will be, but it is a racing certainty China will be represented.


Implications of becoming a regulated market

Under the current regime a buyer or seller on the fix has to deal through one of the four fixing bullion banks. The information gained by them from seeing this business is crucial, giving them a quasi-monopolistic trading advantage over all the other dealers. Instead, buyers and sellers will be anonymous during the auction process.

The new platform should, therefore, ensure equal opportunity, eliminating the advantage enjoyed by the fixing banks. Crucially, it will change market domination from the privileged fixing members in favour of the deepest pockets. These are almost certain to be China's through the state-owned banks which already control the largest physical market in Asia, the Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE).

China's gold strategy

China actually took its first deliberate step towards eventual domination of the gold market as long ago as June 1983, when regulations on the control of gold and silver were passed by the State Council. The following Articles extracted from the English translation set out the objectives very clearly:

Article 1. These Regulations are formulated to strengthen control over gold and silver, to guarantee the State's gold and silver requirements for its economic development and to outlaw gold and silver smuggling and speculation and profiteering activities.

Article 3. The State shall pursue a policy of unified control, monopoly purchase and distribution of gold and silver. The total income and expenditure of gold and silver of State organs, the armed forces, organizations, schools, State enterprises, institutions and collective urban and rural economic organizations (hereinafter referred to as domestic units) shall be incorporated into the State plan for the receipt and expenditure of gold and silver.

Article 4. The People's Bank of China shall be the State organ responsible for the control of gold and silver in the People's Republic of China.

Article 5. All gold and silver held by domestic units, with the exception of raw materials, equipment, household utensils and mementos which the People's Bank of China has permitted to be kept, must be sold to the People's Bank of China. No gold and silver may be personally disposed of or kept without authorisation.

Article 6. All gold and silver legally gained by individuals shall come under the protection of the State.

Article 8. All gold and silver purchases shall be transacted through the People's Bank of China. No unit or individual shall purchase gold and silver unless authorised or entrusted to do so by the People's Bank of China.

Article 12. All gold and silver sold by individuals must be sold to the People's Bank of China.

Article 25. No restriction shall be imposed on the amount of gold and silver brought into the People's Republic of China, but declaration and registration must be made to the Customs authorities of the People's Republic of China upon entry.

Article 26. Inspection and clearance by the People's Republic of China Customs of gold and silver taken or retaken abroad shall be made in accordance with the amount shown on the certificate issued by the People's Bank of China or the original declaration and registration form made on entry. All gold and silver without a covering certificate or in excess of the amount declared and registered upon entry shall not be allowed to be taken out of the country.

Additionally, China has deliberately developed her gold production regardless of cost so that she is now the largest producer by far in the world today. State-owned refineries process this gold along with doré imported from elsewhere. None of this gold leaves China.

The regulations quoted above formalise the State's monopoly over all gold and silver which is exercised through the People's Bank, and they allow the free importation of gold and silver but keep exports under very tight control. On the basis of these regulations and as subsequently amended the People's Bank established the SGE, which remains under its total control. The intent behind the regulations is not to establish or permit the free trade of gold and silver, but to control these commodities in the interest of the state.

This being the case, the growth of Chinese gold imports recorded as deliveries to the public since 2002 is only the most recent evidence of a deliberate act of policy embarked upon thirty-two years ago. China had been accumulating gold for nineteen years before she allowed her own nationals to buy any when private ownership was finally permitted. Furthermore, the bullion was freely available, because in seventeen of those years gold was in a severe bear market fuelled by a combination of supply from central bank disposals, leasing, scrap, rapidly-increasing mine production and investor selling, all of which I estimate totalled about 76,000 tonnes in all. The two largest buyers for all this gold for much of the time were the Middle East and China. The breakdown from these sources and the likely demand are identified in the table below taken from my article for GoldMoney on the subject published last October, where a more detailed discussion of global bullion distribution during those years can be found.

Put in another context the cost of China's 25,000 tonnes of gold equates to roughly 10% of her exports over the period, and the eighties and early nineties in particular, also saw huge capital inflows when multinational corporations were building factories in China. However, the figure for China's gold accumulation is at best informed speculation, but given the determination expressed in the 1983 regulations and subsequent events it is clear she had deliberately accumulated a significant undeclared stockpile by 2002.

So far China's long-term plans for the acquisition of gold appear to have achieved some important objectives. Deliveries to the public through the SGE since only 2008 totalled 8,459 tonnes, gross of returned scrap, probably more than 9,500 tonnes since 2002 given estimated domestic mine production of 1,352 tonnes between2002-2007.

With such a large commitment to this market, we must now anticipate the next stage for China's gold policy, which is why the changes in London may be important.

China now has the opportunity to take a dominant role in London, without having to direct its order flows through the fixing banks. Therefore, it is no exaggeration to say that from 20th March, China will be able to control the global physical gold market, which will permit her to manage the price. She has the deepest pockets, backed by the largest single stockpile.


China's motives

China's motives for taking control of the gold bullion market have almost certainly evolved. The regulations of 1983 make sense as part of a forward-looking plan to ensure that some of the benefits of industrialisation would be accumulated as a counterparty risk free national asset. This reasoning is similar to that of the Arab nations capitalising on the oil-price bonanza only ten years earlier, which led them to accumulate their hoard for the benefit of future generations. However, as time passed the world has changed both economically and politically.

2002 was a significant year for China, when geopolitical considerations entered the picture. Not only did the People's Bank establish the SGE to facilitate deliveries to private investors, but this was the year the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) formally adopted its charter. This merger of security and economic interests with Russia has bound Russia and China together with a number of resource-rich Asian states into an economic bloc. When India, Iran, Mongolia, Afghanistan and Pakistan join (as they are committed to do), the SCO will cover more than half the world's population. And inevitably the SCO's members are looking for an alternative trade settlement system to using the US dollar.

At some stage China with her SCO partner, Russia, will force the price of gold higher as part of their currency strategy. You can argue this from an economic point of view on the basis that possession of properly priced gold will give her a financial dominance over global trade at a time when we are trashing our fiat currencies, or more simply that there's no point in owning an asset and suppressing its value for ever. From 2002 there evolved a geopolitical argument: both China and Russia having initially wanted to embrace American and Western European capitalism no longer sought to do so, seeing us as soft enemies instead. The Chinese public were then encouraged even by public service advertising to buy gold, helping to denude the west of her remaining bullion stocks and to provide market liquidity in China.

What is truly amazing is the western economic and political establishment have dismissed the importance of gold and ignored all the warning signals. They do not seem to realise the power they have given China and Russia to create financial chaos by simply hiking the gold price. If they do, which seems to be only a matter of time, then London's fractional reserve system of unallocated gold accounts would simply collapse, leaving Shanghai as the only major physical market.

Therefore the failure of the London bullion market to see strategically beyond its short-term interests has opened the door to China's powerful state-owned banking monopoly to control the gold bullion market. This is probably the final link in China's long-standing gold strategy, and through it a planned domination of the global economy in partnership with Russia and the other SCO nations.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/09/15 05:24 PM

My Comment: The article above mentions that China & Russia & SCO would be behind the gold pricing after April 1st. The SCO (Shanghai Cooperation Organisation) currently constitute --China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. "Observer states at the SCO are Afghanistan, India, Iran, Mongolia, and Pakistan. Belarus, Turkey and Sri Lanka have a status of partners in dialogue. ...India and Pakistan could be granted full-fledged membership in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization at its next summit in Russia’s Ufa in July 2015. "

Russia to chair Beijing meet of regional security bloc SCO
http://thebricspost.com/russia-to-chair-beijing-meet-of-regional-security-bloc-sco/#.VP2o5nzF8uc

March 9, 2015

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Russia will chair a meet of the SCO, a China-Russia-led security bloc, that opens in Beijing on Tuesday.
The council of national coordinators of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation will hold a Beijing meet from March 10-13, ahead of this year’s annual summit, said an official statement on Monday.

Both China and Russia have invested heavily in the resource-rich region of Central Asia.

Alexander Yakovenko, Russian envoy to the UK, has said “the SCO Business Council, Interbank Consortium, and Energy Club are at the forefront of expanding practical cooperation among member states”.

China, Russia and four Central Asian nations – Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan – formed the SCO in 2001 as a regional security bloc to fight threats posed by terrorism and drug trafficking from neighboring Afghanistan.

Cooperation between China and Russia on Afghanistan has been growing since 2013 and could become a major factor for Afghan leadership following a US withdrawal.

As the US and EU step up pressure on Moscow with threats of new rounds of sanctions, Russia is seeking to strengthen ties with allies in the region, predominantly the BRICS and SCO members.

Observer states at the SCO are Afghanistan, India, Iran, Mongolia, and Pakistan. Belarus, Turkey and Sri Lanka have a status of partners in dialogue.

Kremlin spokesperson Yuri Ushakov has indicated last year that India and Pakistan could be granted full-fledged membership in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization at its next summit in Russia’s Ufa in July 2015.

The next SCO summit will be held in Russia’s city of Ufa on July 9-10, 2015 along with the 7th BRICS Summit.

Russia has taken over presidency of the SCO in September 2014. Moscow has vowed to use its presidency of the SCO to advocate for coordinated steps on the economy, financial sector, energy, and food security.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping said last year that members of the SCO share identical views on economic and political cooperation, including the Ukraine crisis and subsequent sanctions.

“At the meeting in narrow format we discussed some other current international affairs too, including the situation in Ukraine. We are very pleased to see that we share identical or similar views on the main areas of cooperation. This consensus of views is reflected in the Dushanbe Declaration that we are adopting,” said Putin.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/11/15 04:13 PM

My comments: We have heard that RUSSIA is working on setting up an alternative SWIFT system that started to be tested last December. Now we hear that China have theirs almost completed and ready to be launched this fall. There's two articles below about it.

China's mega international payment system is ready, will launch this year - report

http://rt.com/business/239189-china-payment-system-ready/
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The China International Payment System (CIPS) is due to kick off this year, bringing the yuan a step closer to becoming a global trading currency, as the new system will make payment transfers just as easy as in dollars and euro.

The launch is expected in September or October, depending on how tests go, a source told Reuters. Another person with direct knowledge of the matter said the goal is to start the first phase before December, Reuters reported.

"The CIPS is ready now and China has selected 20 banks to do the testing, among which 13 banks are Chinese banks and the rest are subsidiaries of foreign banks," one of the sources told the agency.

Read more
Russia to launch alternative to SWIFT bank transaction system in spring 2015
CIPS will use the same coding system as other international payment systems, which will make transactions more fluid and rapid. The super-network will consolidate and replace the existing multiple clearing houses that process yuan payments, and will rival majors like Visa and MasterCard.

The move should help bump the yuan’s presence on the international stage, as the payment system will make it faster and easier to carry out cross-border transactions using the Chinese currency.

It’s the fifth most-used currency in international payments, according to the SWIFT network. In December 2014, about 2.17 percent of payments were made in yuan, up from 0.63 percent in 2013.

READ MORE: Chinese yuan now top 5 major intl payment currency

For a while China has been exploring methods to cut dependence on the dollar and other hard currencies in international trade, hoping to settle more deals in yuan.

China, the world’s second biggest economy, grew by 7.4 percent in 2014, but has trimmed its 2015 forecast to seven percent, the lowest growth rate in the last 25 years. Despite the slight slowdown, it is still expected to be the fastest growing economy of 2015, according to a poll of economists by Bloomberg.


China Completes SWIFT Alternative, May Launch "De-Dollarization Axis" As Soon As September
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-09...y-launch-soon-s
by Tyler Durden on 03/09/2015
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One of the recurring threats used by the western nations in their cold (and increasingly more hot) war with Russia, is that Putin's regime may be locked out of all international monetary transactions when Moscow is disconnected from the EU-based global currency messaging and interchange service known as SWIFT (a move, incidentally, which SWIFT lamented as was revealed in October when we reported that it announces it "regrets the pressure" to disconnect Russia).

Of course, in the aftermath of revelations that back in 2013, none other than the NSA was exposed for secretly 'monitoring' the SWIFT payments flows, one could wonder if being kicked out of SWIFT is a curse or a blessing, however Russia did not need any further warnings and as we reported less than a month ago, Russia launched its own 'SWIFT'-alternative, linking 91 credit institutions initially. This in turn suggested that de-dollarization is considerably further along than many had expected, which coupled with Russia's record dumping of TSYs, demonstrated just how seriously Putin is taking the threat to be isolated from the western payment system. It was only logical that he would come up with his own.

There were two clear implications from this use of money as a means of waging covert war: i) unless someone else followed Russia out of SWIFT, its action, while notable and valiant, would be pointless - after all, if everyone else is still using SWIFT by default, then anything Russia implements for processing foreign payments is irrelevant and ii) if indeed the Russian example of exiting a western-mediated payment system was successful and copied, it would accelerate the demise of the Dollar's status as reserve currency, which is thus by default since there are no alternatives. Provide alternatives, and the entire reserve system begins to crack.

Today, we got proof that it is the second outcome that is about to prevail following a Reuters report that China's international payment system, known simply enough as China International Payment System (CIPS), which serves to process cross-border yuan transactions is ready, and may be launched as early as September or October.

According to Reuters, the launch of the will remove one of the biggest hurdles to internationalizing the yuan and should greatly increase global usage of the Chinese currency by cutting transaction costs and processing times.

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It will also put the yuan on a more even footing with other major global currencies like the U.S. dollar, as CIPS is expected to use the same messaging format as other international payment systems, making transactions smoother.

CIPS, which would be a worldwide payments superhighway for the yuan, will replace a patchwork of existing networks that make processing renminbi payments a more cumbersome process.
In other words, while the west was using every provocation involving the Ukraine civil war as an opportunity to pressure Russia into developing its own cross-border payment system, it achieved not only just that but it also pushed China to accelerate the roll out of its own international payment system, in the process telegraphing to the world that the USD is replacable as a reserve currency and giving any other nations (such as the BRICs) the green light to think of SWIFT as an alternative to either the Russian or Chinese payment system (which with enough political and financial stimulus, they would be delighted to do).

But what is most disturbing is just how quickly the Chinese regime change is coming:

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"If it's all smooth, (the launch) will be in September or October. If there is a need for a bit more time, we are still confident about (rolling it out) before the year-end," said the source, who declined to be named because he is not authorized to speak to the media.

The system was expected to be launched in 2014 but was delayed by technical problems, with most market participants anticipating it would not come on stream before 2016.
Needless to say, China will be delighted to have its own unified payment system, one that will further internationalize the Renminbi which at least check had become one of the top five payment currencies in November 2014, overtaking both the Canadian and the Australian dollar based on SWIFT data.

Until now, cross-border yuan clearing has to be done either through one of the offshore yuan clearing banks in the likes of Hong Kong, Singapore and London, or else with the help of a correspondent bank in mainland China.

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"Misunderstandings under the current clearing system happen from time-to-time due to different languages and codings. The CIPS is a breakthrough since it will offer a united platform and enhance efficiency," said Raymond Yeung, an analyst at ANZ in Hong Kong.

The launch of CIPS will enable companies outside China to clear yuan transactions with their Chinese counterparts directly, reducing the number of stages a payment has to go through.
It will also make it far more difficult for the NSA to track payments to and from the mainland when such compromised intermediaries as SWIFT are used.

This is how the Mercator Institute for China Studies previewed this major development:

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The Chinese government is striving towards a controlled internationalization of China's currency through a step-by-step expansion of the use of the RMB in Chinese foreign trade and investment. Towards this end, a worldwide network of agreements dealing with central bank currency swaps, the direct exchange of the RMB with other currencies, and RMB clearing hubs has been built. The establishment of an independent payment system (CIPS) for RMB transactions and an alternative to the existing SWIFT would further increase China’s autonomy vis-à-vis U.S. centred financial market structures.


Finally, as it becomes easier to transact in non-USD terms, it will merely accelerate the adoption of the Chinese Yuan as the primary currency of global trade, or what little is left of it, as opposed to the currency of financial engineering.

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Global yuan payments increased by 20.3 percent in value in December compared to a year earlier, while the growth for payments across all currencies was 14.9 percent for the same period, SWIFT said.

China has accelerated the pace of yuan internationalization in recent years. The central bank assigned 10 official yuan clearing banks last year, bringing the total number to 14 globally that can clear yuan transactions with China.


The final observation to make here is that if indeed it was the Obama administration's brilliant ploy to kick out Russia - and by geopolitical affiliation, China - out of a monetary transaction mechanism that is controlled and supervised by the US and force the two biggest challengers to US global dominance into their own (or joint) payment system, then well, congratulations: it succeeded.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/13/15 03:27 PM

My comment : This took me by surprise. I was expecting Germany or France to be the first one, but not the UK. This is a major break thru that will open the doors for the other Western countries to join in. The USA will probably be the last to join, but they will eventually. Than after the fall of the complete financial arm of Mystery Babylon, what will be left is for its "political arm" (Zionist faction) to fall.

UK snubs US to join China-led Asian bank
http://thebricspost.com/uk-snubs-us-to-join-china-led-asian-bank/#.VQLWmHzF8uc

March 13, 2015
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Overlooking US censure, the UK has announced its decision to join China’s Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, becoming the first “major western country” to apply for membership.
“I am delighted to announce today that the UK will be the first major Western country to become a prospective founder member of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, which has already received significant support in the region,” said UK Finance Minister George Osborne on Thursday.

“Joining the AIIB at the founding stage will create an unrivalled opportunity for the UK and Asia to invest and grow together,” he added.

In a landmark achievement, 21 Asian nations including China and India in October last year signed on the creation of a new infrastructure investment bank which would rival the World Bank. The new Bank has a capital target of more than $100 billion.

The governments of Bangladesh, [censored] Darussalam, Cambodia, China, India, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Lao PDR, Malaysia, Mongolia, Myanmar, Nepal, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Uzbekistan, Qatar, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Uzbekistan, Vietnam signed on as founding members of the new Asia Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) in Beijing.

“The UK will join discussions later this month with other founding members,” said a UK government statement on Thursday.

Washington reacted to UK’s announcement by saying it is circumspect about whether the AIIB would have sufficiently high standards on governance and environmental and social safeguards.

“We hope and expect that the U.K. will use its voice to push for adoption of high standards,” said Patrick Ventrell, spokesman for President Barack Obama’s National Security Council

The authorized capital of AIIB is $100 billion and the initial subscribed capital is expected to be around $50 billion. The paid-in ratio will be 20 per cent.

AIIB will be an inter-governmental regional development institution in Asia and Beijing will be the host city for AIIB’s headquarters.

The AIIB will extend China’s financial reach and compete not only with the World Bank, but also with the Asian Development Bank, which is heavily dominated by Japan.

China and other emerging economies, including BRICS, have long protested against their limited voice at other multilateral development banks, including the World Bank, International Monetary Fund and Asian Development Bank (ADB).

China is grouped in the ‘Category II’ voting bloc at the World Bank while at the Asian Development Bank, China with a 5.5 per cent share is far outdone by America’s 15.7 per cent and Japan’s 15.6 per cent share.

The ADB has estimated that in the next decade Asian countries will need $8 trillion in infrastructure investments to maintain the current economic growth rate.

China scholar Asit Biswas at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy, Singapore, says Washington’s criticism towards the China-led Bank is “childish”.

“Some critics argue that the AIIB will reduce the environmental, social and procurement standards in a race to the bottom. This is a childish criticism, especially because China has invited other governments to help with funding and governance,” he says.

“Reports indicate that the US is pressuring Australia and South Korea not to join the AIIB. But as Hedley Bull, eminent late Oxford professor, once said, “people have friends but countries have only interests”, he adds.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/13/15 07:02 PM

China-IMF talks underway to endorse yuan as global reserve currency

March 12, 2015

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China is pushing for the International Monetary Fund to endorse the Chinese yuan as a global reserve currency alongside the dollar and euro.

A senior Chinese central bank official said Thursday that the country is “actively communicating” with the IMF on the possibility of including the yuan, or RMB, in the basket of the Special Drawing Rights (SDRs).

Including the yuan in the SDR system would allow the IMF to recognize the ascent of the world’s second-biggest economy while aiding China’s attempts to diminish the dollar’s dominance in global trade and finance.

“We hope the IMF can fully take into account the progress of RMB internationalization, to include RMB into the basket underlining the SDR in foreseeable, near future,” said Yi Gang, vice governor of the People’s Bank of China.

However, China will be patient until conditions are ripe, Yi said at a press conference on the sidelines of the ongoing annual parliamentary session.

In late 2015, the IMF will conduct its next twice-a-decade review of the basket of currencies its members can count toward their official reserves.

SDRs are international foreign exchange reserve assets. Allocated to nations by the IMF, an SDR represents a claim to foreign currencies for which it may be exchanged in times of need.

Although denominated in US dollars, the nominal value of an SDR is derived from a basket of currencies, with, specifically, a fixed amount of Japanese yen, US dollars, British pounds and euros, without RMB.

China would need to satisfy the Washington-based lender’s economic benchmarks and get the support of most of the other 187 member countries.

To become a currency included in the SDR basket, the trade volume of goods and services behind that currency will be evaluated, the Chinese Central Bank official explained on Thursday, stressing that RMB has no problem in this regard. But he said views are divided on whether the RMB is a freely usable currency.

“No matter whether and when the RMB will be included in the SDR basket, China will push on with its financial sector reform and opening-up,” Yi said.

The yuan became the world’s No. 2 currency for trade finance globally in 2013, and overtook the Canadian and Australian dollars to enter the top five world payment currencies in 2014, according to global transaction services organization SWIFT.

China said the yuan has also been used as a reserve currency in some countries and regions.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/13/15 07:09 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My Comment: Well last year, April 24, the federal court ruled in favor to some citizens who brought the Canadian Central Bank(Bank of Canada = BOC) to court. "This court case challenges the disuse of the Bank of Canada to create money for the public good." Another case was won Jan 26th 2015(see youtube video interview with Rocco Galati, prominent lawyer of the case: Comer vs BOC). Everyone was surprise they(citizens) had won the case.

I'm amazed(but not surprised) that we haven't heard of it yet in the media.

"THIS IS HUGE! Court Demands Bank Of Canada return to it's original mandate issuing it's currency Debt free Harper Government orders MEDIA BLACKOUT of this case"


HISTORICAL COURT RULING IN CANADA AGAINST PRIVATE CENTRAL BANKING

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=98b_1422999032

http://investmentwatchblog.com/canadian-...drFfRkARqZo7.99

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The Bank of Canada used to be a government lending institution, creating near interest free loans that built much of Canada’s infrastructure during the 50’s and 60’s. In 1974 at the Bank of International Settlements in Basel Switzerland, Trudeau Sr. was convinced by fellow Bilderberg attendees to dismantle this crucial function of the Bank of Canada, and since then we’ve lost sovereign control of our monetary policies and money supply and government debt at all levels has risen dramatically.This court case challenges the disuse of the Bank of Canada to create money for the public good.
The Federal Court of Canada has ruled against private central banking. Meanwhile, the Harper GovrenmentTM has ordered a media black out on this court case. Lets help spread the word!


Here is the Decision from the April 24, 2014 Appeal: http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/72554/index.do

Interview with Rocco Galati, prominent lawyer of the latest case Comer vs BOC : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgdyWPxLf1s


My comment : Here's the first Media coverage. Not mainstream though but it is a start.

Amid Media Blackout, Canada Lawsuit Challenges Banker Rule

http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/amid-media-blackout-canada-lawsuit-challenges-banker-rule

MARCH 3, 2015

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According to American monetary-reform author and filmmaker Bill Still—and Canadian activists with whom AFP has been in contact—Canada’s mainstream media has been suppressing news that the three-judge panel on Jan. 26 ruled in favor of plaintiffs who filed suit to restore the Bank of Canada to its time-tested mandate of issuing debt-free money in the public interest.

Reporting on his online news-site which covers monetary reform, Mr. Still remarked: “The [Canadian] government has ordered the mainstream media not to cover this.”

The ruling gives plaintiffs William Krehm and Ann Emmett of COMER, or the Committee for Monetary and Economic Reform, represented by attorney Rocco Galati, the ability to move forward toward trial. The Crown can appeal once more to Canada’s Supreme Court.

On Dec. 12 of 2011, COMER filed suit to try and legally restore the former arrangement wherein The Bank of Canada—which, unlike the U.S. Federal Reserve with respect to U.S. citizens, is owned by the people of Canada—would return to the monetary practices it followed from 1938 to 1974 under the Bank of Canada Act.

During those years, the Canadian government borrowed money free of interest from the public Bank of Canada and made significant national progress.

“The bank was nationalized in 1938 to bring Canada out of the Great Depression,” Still stated on his online program.

The bank over the years would issue interest-free loans at the municipal, provincial and federal-government levels. Canada’s universal health-care system, St. Lawrence Seaway development, the national pension system, airports, subways, and other projects deemed to be in the public interest, sprouted in the rich soils of interest-free finance between 1938 and 1974.

Still added that, however, come 1974, the Canadian government decided to end debt-free money, yet prior to 1974 “there was no run-away inflation,” like “gold bugs” often fear, when contemplating so-called “easy-money” policies.

As recently as the early 1970s, one could buy a decent home in Canada for under $20,000. Moreover, Canada’s national debt was just $18 billion in 1974, mere chump change in terms of such a large, resource-rich nation.

But by 1977, with interest-laden banking, Federal Reserve-style, in place, “The Canadian national debt had risen 3,000%, to $588 billion,” said Still. He added that the cost of an average house increased almost as much.

The Canadian government has 60 days from Jan. 26, or latter March, to challenge the appellate ruling.

The plaintiffs say the defendants (officials) are, unwittingly or wittingly, connected to a conspiracy, along with the Bank of International Settlements (the central banker’s central bank), the Financial Stability Forum and International Monetary Fund “to render impotent the Bank of Canada Act as well as Canadian sovereignty over financial, monetary, and socio-economic policy . . . ,” as noted in a report provided by Still from PacificFreePress.com.

While Canada could renounce its debt altogether, at the very least it could stop issuing interest-bearing bonds—mainly bought up by banks so the government can get debt-money in return—and instead pump debt-free money into the economy, as Still advocates.

Michigan monetary reformer Bob Van Bemmelen reacted: “Any news that speaks to the issuance of debt-free money is good news. While the issuance of 'this' money would go toward infrastructure projects . . . ultimately, is doesn't go far enough, in that it does not put increased purchasing power directly in the hands of the people.”

A perusal of the internet, along with contacting Canadian monetary reformer Dr. Oliver Heydorn (author of “Social Credit Economics”) and Canadian activist John Devine, confirmed the near-total news blackout on the Bank of Canada ruling. One of the few, if only, published mainstream-media items on the ruling comes from guest columnist Jacob Kearey-Moreland, writing in the Feb. 6 Orillia Packet newspaper of Orillia, Ontario, where Devine also resides.

Moreland wrote: “The case aims to put on trial global banking powers and their Canadian representatives, accusing government officials primarily of abdicating sovereignty and subverting the Bank of Canada Act. The governor of the Bank of Canada, beyond parliamentary oversight and public scrutiny, routinely conspires with foreign interests to deliberate and determine Canadian monetary policy.”

Heydorn agrees with Van Bemmelen that issuing debt-free money, purely or mainly for public works, is a start but it tends to empower the central state with too much spending discretion, falling short of consumer empowerment.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/17/15 03:59 PM

My comment: WOW, now France, Germany, and Italy has joined with the UK to join with China (AIIB, SCO, and BRICS) new Banking and trading system. Australia made public that they are also lining up to join.

I think things will be moving quite fast now. The BRICS has announced that their Banking system will be only fully ready at the end of 2015. The AIIB infrastructure appears to be already operational however this article mention that their [expansion] will be ready by the end of 2015. The new SCO SWIFT system was announce to be ready coming September. So my hunch is the worlld will be in some transitionary stage 'till then end of 2015. From what I read, I think to re-align the currencies of the countries to their true value; put straight the accounts of countries owing gold, debts, etc to others; bringing the corrupt Elites and leaders to court; set up impartial new courts; and etc... Lots of "cleaning up" type of work and setting up new infrastructures ahead.

EU allies defy US to join China-led Asian Bank

http://thebricspost.com/eu-allies-defy-us-to-join-china-led-asian-bank/#.VQga13zF8uc

March 17, 2015
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The new China-led Asian investment bank, a potential rival to institutions such as the Asian Development Bank and the World Bank, has enlisted more US allies as members after Britain decided to join last week.

The membership of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) is set to expand further, with three more European countries following Britain’s lead.

France, Germany and Italy have defied US instructions not to participate in the Bank, said UK daily, The Financial Times.


The decision of the three European countries, yet to be officially announced, came in the wake of Britain’s application last week to be a founding member of the $50 billion bank.

Meanwhile, Australian leaders have been lining up in the past few days to voice support for joining the AIIB, which marks a conspicuous U-turn from the cabinet’s previous stance.

“Our position all along has been that we are happy to be part of some thing which is a genuine multilateral institution such as the World Bank, such as the Asia Development Bank,” Prime Minister Tony Abbott said during an interview with Sky News over the weekend.

In addition, South Korea, Switzerland and Luxembourg are deliberating over the decision to participate in the infrastructure investment Bank.

In a last-ditch attempt to hinder its allies’ participation in the China-backed Bank, US Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs Daniel Russel said in Seoul on Tuesday that there must be “unmistakable evidence” about the standards of the Bank before members join in.

“Every government can make its own decision about whether the way to achieve that goal is by joining before the articles of agreement are clarified or by waiting to see what the evidence looks like as the bank starts to operate,” the US official was quoted by Reuters.

China, with $4 trillion in foreign exchange reserves, is pushing for the growth of its own multilateral bodies, including the AIIB, the BRICS Bank and a bank for the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, but also seeking to strengthen its voice at the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

As regards Japan, Chinese Finance Minister Lou Jiwei said earlier this month that the chance to be an AIIB founding member is available for all Asian countries including Japan by March 31, and the ball is in Japan’s court.

“They told us they are considering. Whether Japan will join, we do not know. It is Japan’s own decision,” Lou said.

Nearly 30 countries have confirmed their participation in the AIIB, which is aimed at helping finance infrastructure projects across Asia and expected to be operational within 2015.

In response to US concerns about the standards of the AIIB, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said last week that the AIIB’s operation and governance will be open, transparent, inclusive and responsible.

“It will draw experiences from other multilateral development banks and avoid their detours so as to be more cost-effective and efficient,” he told a press conference.

“The AIIB will complement existing multilateral development banks and support the infrastructure and economic development in Asia,” he added.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/23/15 04:32 PM

My comment: This is a good compilation of 3 articles.

The AIIB Debacle

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...he-latest-news/

March 18, 2015

"The BRICS nations, led by China, got tired of waiting for the US congress to sign the reform package by the member of the International Monetary Fund that was supposed to be implemented in 2010. So they created their own rival bank, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank last year.

Although the Obama administration agreed to the IMF reforms in 2010, it has opposed the creation of the AIIB and has pressured many nations to boycott it. But now it seems that Britain has broken ranks with the US and on March 12 revealed its plans to join the AIIB. (The US Congress can take credit for this for not ratifying the IMF reforms.)

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/...hinese-led-bank

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The US administration made clear in no uncertain terms its displeasure about Osborne’s decision to join the AIIB. A US official told the Financial Times: “We are wary about a trend toward constant accommodation of China, which is not the best way to engage a rising power.”


The US government is losing its influence and power over the past decade as China and Russia have gained economic power. The attempts by the US government to isolate Russia and China have only served to isolate the US itself. So the following article suggests that the US itself should join the AIIB in order to retain what little influence it has left.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/elizabetheco...-should-do-now/

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It is time for Washington to take a step back and regroup. Its Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) strategy, ill-considered from the get-go, has now taken a major hit with the announcement this past week by the United Kingdom that it plans to join the Chinese-led AIIB....

At this point, therefore, Washington has three choices:

1) Continue to press its allies not to join the AIIB until governance procedures for the bank are assured;

2) Join the AIIB itself; or

3) Drop the issue.

Option one is clearly a losing proposition. There is no sense expending further political capital trying to persuade regional and other actors not to join the bank.…

Opposition to the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank has become a millstone around Washington’s neck. It is time to remove it one way or another.


The US government will probably have no choice but to swallow its pride and join the AIIB, spinning it as its own wise choice. But clearly, joining the AIIB will be a major defeat and will signal the declining relevancy and ultimate demise of the IMF itself.

In fact, this represents a major turning point in the demise of the US dollar itself. In essence, as Simon Black puts it, this is a matter of the US being forced to join “the anti-dollar alliance!”

http://www.sovereignman.com/finance/et-t...alliance-16482/

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Late yesterday, the government of the United Kingdom announced that they would be applying to join the Chinese-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank… as a founding member.

This is huge.

Right now, the United States dominates the global financial system.

But after years of endless wars, spying, debt, money printing, bailouts, and insane regulations, the rest of the world has had enough. And they’re looking for an alternative….

New Zealand was the first western nation to join AIIB back in October. And yesterday afternoon, Britain announced its intention to become the second.

(Of course in the UK’s eyes they’re the first since New Zealand still belongs to the Queen!)

This is a massive, embarrassing blow to the United States, and to the future of the US dollar

It won’t be long before other western nations jump on the anti-dollar bandwagon with action and not just words.

Bottom line: this isn’t theory or conjecture anymore. Every shred of objective evidence suggests that the dollar’s dominance is coming to an end.

It’s happening. Time to plan for it.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/23/15 05:06 PM

AIIB: Switzerland applies to join Asian infrastructure bank as South Korea reconsider stance

March 21, 2015

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The China-backed Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) is poised to get more new members as [u]Switzerland announced its application to join the bank and South Korea is reconsidering its previous decision to back out[/u].

China's ministry of finance earlier said the country welcomed Switzerland's decision to apply to join the AIIB. The European nation submitted its candidacy to China last week.

Switzerland will become a founding member on 28 March if other members approve, according to a statement on the ministry website.

Meanwhile, South Korea is reconsidering its decision on whether to join the bank, which is set up to support infrastructure projects in Asia.

The finance ministry in charge of the country's AIIB entry is now working on conditions to join the AIIB, including how many shares it may get, Xinhua reported, citing a source with knowledge of the matter.

Earlier, there were reports that the country has already decided to join the $50bn (£31bn, €39.5bn) bank as one of the founding members, but the presidential office denied them, saying nothing has been decided as of now.

South Korea had initially declined to support the bank in 2014 due to concerns over governance and operation and fears that the US would be unhappy with the move, but those concerns were eliminated after prominent nations that are also close US allies decided to join the institution.

Earlier in March, Britain announced its intention to become a founding member of the AIIB, which is expected to rival the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank in the Asian region. Following Britain, major US allies such as France, Germany and Italy have agreed to join the bank.

In addition, Australia, a key US ally in the Asia Pacific region, is set to decide on joining the international bank next week.

Meanwhile, Japan's finance minister Taro Aso said his country would consider joining the AIIB if it proves to be a credible institution complying with generally accepted governance and environmental standards.

In October 2014, representatives of 21 Asian nations convened in Beijing to inaugurate the AIIB, which is focused on providing funding to infrastructure projects within Asia. The bank was initially capitalised with $50bn half of which was funded by China.

Britain is the first major Western country to apply to become an AIIB member. It will meet other founding members in March to discuss governance and accountability arrangements.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/23/15 05:21 PM

My comment: There's a March 31 deadline membership, so that's why we are seeing everyone joining the AIIB these days as it seems that they have no other choice. The US has not submitted their application yet, but this might be a step close to it.

Washington Blinks: Will Seek Partnership With China-Led Development Bank

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-22...evelopment-bank

March 22, 2015

"Don’t look now, but Washington just blinked. As we’ve documented exhaustively over the past week, pressure has been building steadily for the US to strike some manner of conciliatory tone towards China with regard to the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, a China-led institution aimed at rivaling the US/Japan-backed ADB. Britain’s decision to join China in its new endeavor has prompted a number of Western nations to throw their support behind the bank ahead of the March 31 deadline for membership application. Because the AIIB effectively represents the beginning of the end for US hegemony, the White House has demeaned the effort from its inception questioning the ability of non-G-7 nations to create an institution that can be trusted to operation in accordance with the proper “standards.” Now, with 35 nations set to join as founders, it appears Washington may be set to concede defeat. Here’s more, via WSJ:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-to-seek-...7057486?tesla=y
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The Obama administration, facing defiance by allies that have signed up to support a new Chinese-led infrastructure fund, is proposing the bank work in a partnership with Washington-backed development institutions such as the World Bank.

The collaborative approach is designed to steer the new bank toward economic aims of the world’s leading economies and away from becoming an instrument of Beijing’s foreign policy. The bank’s potential to promote new alliances and sidestep existing institutions has been one of the Obama administration’s chief concerns as key allies including the U.K., Germany and France lined up in recent days to become founding members of the new Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.

The Obama administration wants to use existing development banks to co-finance projects with Beijing’s new organization. Indirect support would help the U.S. address another long-standing goal: ensuring the new institution’s standards are designed to prevent unhealthy debt buildups, human-rights abuses and environmental risks. U.S. support could also pave the way for American companies to bid on the new bank’s projects.

“The U.S. would welcome new multilateral institutions that strengthen the international financial architecture,” said Nathan Sheets, U.S. Treasury Under Secretary for International Affairs. “Co-financing projects with existing institutions like the World Bank or the Asian Development Bank will help ensure that high quality, time-tested standards are maintained.”


So essentially this is just the old “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” strategy disguised as an attempt to bring the AIIB into the fold of US-dominated multinational institutions.

But make no mistake, this is at best an example of Washington cutting its losses and at worst an outright surrender, as no one should pretend that the AIIB, which is starting with $50 billion in capital, will remain subservient to the ADB which, after five decades, has barely three times that amount:

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Infrastructure needs around the world are enormous. Emerging countries need new ports, railways, bridges, airports and roads to support faster growth. Developed economies, meanwhile, must replace aging infrastructure. The Asian Development Bank estimates its region alone faces an annual financing shortfall of $800 billion a year. The consulting firm McKinsey & Company estimates global infrastructure-investment needs through 2030 total $57 trillion.

By comparison, the Asian Development Bank has just $160 billion in capital and the World Bank-which has co-financed with other regional institutions for years—has around $500 billion. The China-led bank plans to have a $50 billion fund to start.

And with that, one more leap towards de-dollarization is now in the books.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/23/15 06:13 PM

My comment: In this recent public speech, the IMF is basically saying they are under new management under China.

"China knows that no-one can succeed alone. This is why the IMF is proud to be a partner in China’s economic endeavors here at home[China] and on the global stage. I look forward to fruitful discussions here at the CDF."

Opening Remarks at the 2015 China Development Forum

http://www.imf.org/external/np/speeches/2015/032215.htm?hootPostID=04d30f7ad5bf2b0254f8ecec4e15ce6a

Christine Lagarde
Managing Director, International Monetary Fund
Beijing, March 22, 2015

Quote:
...
Over the next two days, policymakers, business executives, and thought leaders will discuss the defining issues that will determine China’s economic development this year and beyond.

Our discussion about China’s Economy in the “New Normal” comes at a pivotal moment for both China and the world.

If I had to choose only two words that unite China and the world at this moment, it would be “structural reforms”. Of course, these comprise many challenges, but I want to highlight three key areas where impressive efforts by the Chinese government are underway:

One, cleaning up the house – by promoting good governance through the anti-corruption campaign,

Two, cleaning up the air – by curbing pollution and preserving the environment,

And three, clearing the path to further engagement with the world – through further participation in the multilateral dialogue and through more international investment and trade

These reforms will lead to slower, safer, more sustainable growth. This is good for China and good for the world. Their fates are intertwined.

Indeed, as China navigates the “new normal” of its own economy, it also contributes more to the global common good – to economic and financial stability, to environmental sustainability, and to a multilateral approach that is equal to the pressing global challenges facing us today.

China knows that no-one can succeed alone. This is why the IMF is proud to be a partner in China’s economic endeavors here at home and on the global stage. I look forward to fruitful discussions here at the CDF.

Thank you. Xièxiè.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/27/15 06:10 PM

New system, same or similar players, nothing has changed.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/27/15 08:14 PM

Jim Willie: The Global Paradigm Shift Has Begun

http://www.gramsgold.com/news/jim-willie-the-global-paradigm-shift-has-begun

March 24, 2015

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In an interview with Rory Hall of The Daily Coin and Jim Willie on 3-23-15, Willie paints a picture of the entire world moving away from the dollar in a huge global paradigm shift.

Interview : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IhPtAop_cE

Russia and China have been working together to court Europe away from the US, and have recently shown success with their new signatories to the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) Bank.

Willie believes this new bank will result in the termination of the IMF World Bank, stating it is “going to wither away like a tattered flag on an abandoned fort”.

He also thinks the Chinese, Russians and Saudis colluded to lower the oil price in order to destroy the US fracking industry.

Simultaneously, the Chinese and Russians have been putting in economic systems to divest away from the dollar, in preparation for a big move to a gold-backed currency, which could possibly occur this year. Read on to find out when Willie says the dollar will “drop like a stone”.
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Sooner or later we are going to see a massive flow of major banking systems dumping their Treasury bonds.
That’s when QE 4 comes in.
The New Development Bank Will Be the BRICS Gold Central Bank.

Jim Willie says, “January was just loaded with big events, and starting around February 19, the Chinese New Year, the global paradigm shift began.

Last week Australia and Britain signed on with the Chinese led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB). The Chinese are working towards replacing the World Bank.

These are nations who’s central banks are in negotiations with the Chinese [in joining the AIIB]:

Italy
France
Germany
Luxembourg
Switzerland
Japan

Japan holds a trillion or more of US Treasury bonds. Only South Korea remains. Last week Obama had a photo op looking sheepish with all the major AIIB representatives at a table. I’ve been saying that the US is going to make a lot of different errors, such as:
QE to infinity
Bond monetization forever

QE is not stimulus, it is capital destruction. We learned it in school. This is no different. It’s killing the economy. Watch all the retail chains go bust this year, including Sears.

The West clearly dominates banking and the East clearly dominates commerce, trade and manufacturing. Since the US has been blocking the return of the gold standard, we are going to see it through trade settlement. Countries are already trading in renminbi, without the dollar.

Sooner or later we are going to see a massive flow of major banking systems dumping their Treasury bonds. That’s when QE 4 comes in.


The New Development Bank to Be the BRICS Gold Central Bank

The most important event, in my opinion, is the New Development Bank. It has $200 Billion dollars and it originally was to be for development. If the AIIB is for infrastructure projects, then what is the New Development Bank for, if it’s not for development?

I say it’s to convert Treasury and Euro bonds, UK gilts (government bonds) and Japanese government bonds into gold and to become the BRICS Gold Central Bank.

Germany is going to leave the European Union and to submit their hoard of gold toward the “Gold-Backed Nordic Euro”, which will be wrapped into the BRICS gold and silver backed currency.

Putin is calling the region the EEU, or the Eurasian Economic Union.


Shanghai Gold Exchange

Quote:
The Russians and the Chinese are tightening the noose around the Western neck and the dollar.

The Saudis and the Chinese worked together with the Russians to lower the oil price to destroy the petrodollar standard
and to wreck the fracking industry.
It didn’t have any credence a year ago, and now it has wrestled the gold fix from London and they are going to have an RMB based gold futures contract in a few months.

The Chinese are going to use their advantage with the Shanghai Gold Exchange and follow through with the gold fix and the RMB futures contract for gold, and then take action with the gold price.

They want to prevent an overnight reversal of their lift in the gold price. We saw this in a trial run last week. There was a big move up in gold, about $80-$100, and it was gone by the next day.

The Dollar is Going UP Because it’s Being Rejected

I think the petrodollar died a year ago, and that’s why you see the dollar rise. The various Forex derivatives are crashing and liquidating and settling in dollars. It forces the banks to get the dollars to settle with. That’s why the dollar’s going up.

Quote:
The dollar is going to go up, up , up - suffocate the entire world, and then die and be replaced. The King Dollar has four legs,
and I don’t think any of the legs are still operating.
I think it’s going to be the emerging market debt that is denominated in dollars that’s going to cause big problems with the bankers. With QE in 2011, the West has been funding the emerging market debt with free money. If you see a 20% decline in, say Bagladesh, it’s important. We are going to see Greece, Ukraine and emerging markets kill the dollar.

TTIP (The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership)

The United States does not want Europe to be dependent on Russia for energy. They want Europe to sign the TTIP. If the US was going to use fracking to supply Europe, then why did the US destroy the fracking industry with a lower oil price? They did not. The Saudis and the Chinese worked together with the Russians to lower the oil price to destroy the petrodollar standard and to wreck the fracking industry.

An agreement to the TTIP is simply to get a corporate political power center in place. No European country wants it, and we are trying to jam it down their throats. So the Europeans and the Asians are voicing their objection by joining the Chinese AIIB Bank. The more we pressure with the trade sanctions and wars, the more they respond [negatively].

I think the Chinese joined the IMF to kill it. The World Bank is going to wither away like a tattered flag on an abandoned fort.


The Future

I am optimistic. I think the banker cabal is losing their grip. The gold standard is going to be re-installed.

As a patriot, I want the dollar to be gold and silver backed. Abrogating the gold standard has resulted in an unspeakable amount of pilferage and theft. We need to get back to the gold standard to put the entire global economy on the right footing, because everything is going to “crack” right now.


Global War

I don’t think we are going to have a global war.

I think Russia and Chinese are using tolerance to let the US be exposed for their actions and their propoganda, and to let Germany and Europe depart from the US camp. Rather than respond with force, the Kremlin, in particular, is allowing the EU to split from the US. That’s pretty powerful. It’s an economic split. I think Europe will say this year that they don’t want anymore to do with Russian sanctions.

This is When the Dollar Drops like a Stone
We are not isolating Russia, but isolating ourselves. We are going to have to replace the dollar. The Treasury bill is not going to be accepted. The gold trade note, I think it’s going to come in several months. It’ going to be a Letter of Credit, backed by gold.

Countries that we import good from will demand us to produce “gold trade notes”. They will want the US to cash in their Treasury bills for the trade notes. This is when the dollar will decline like a stone!

I think that this could happen this year. I think the US Dept of Treasury is going to announce some tentative plans for the replacement of the dollar. It’s not going to be the “Amero”. Mexico and Canada are not going to unite with us.

Canada knows they can replenish their gold quickly. And Mexico knows they can replace silver to back a currency. The US is going to insist that they have this “deep storage gold” which is going to be a big lie.

As a patriot, I want the dollar to be gold and silver backed. Abrogating the gold standard has resulted in an unspeakable amount of pilferage and theft. We need to get back to the gold standard to put the entire global economy on the right footing, because everything is going to “crack” right now.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/29/15 03:05 PM

My comment: This coming Tuesday is the last day for countries to apply for the AIIB Membership. In this article we have Russia, Australia, and Netherland that applied yesterday. South Korea, Brazil, Turkey, and South Korea all said would join. Canada and Japan are considering it.

It leaves the US all alone. The US kinda publically said it would support the AIIB but it did not say they will or consider to join yet. We'll soon see if they will for I'm sure the US is divided on this and many wants to join.

What I understand, joining the AIIB will preserve the countries currency value once the USD crashes. So experts says all these countries will de-peg their currencies from the dollar next.

Do notice that this events is just prior to Passover. Passover is this coming Friday(or Saturday depending on which calendar you go by). Also we will have a blood moon then.

De-Dollarization Continues As Russia Seeks AIIB Membership

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-28/de-dollarization-continues-russia-seeks-aiib-membership

03/28/2015

As we noted a week ago, Vladimir Putin’s calls for a Eurasian currency union clearly demonstrate that the Russian President is acutely aware of the fact that the unipolar world of the 1980s is long gone. Putin’s security council also made it clear this week that the Kremlin is well aware that the sole aim of US foreign policy is preserving Western hegemony via an implicit (and sometimes explicit) policy of containment aimed at perpetuating the idea of US exceptionalism. Moscow then took the rhetoric up a notch on Thursday, accusing the US of attempting to take the “mutual” out of “mutually assured destruction” (i.e. Moscow thinks Washington is trying to tip the nuclear power balance).

Given all of this, we weren’t surprised to learn that Putin is now backing a Russian bid for membership in China’s Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (for a summary of AIIB developments, see here). Here’s more via RT:

http://rt.com/business/244805-russia-join-aiib-china/
Quote:
Russia decided to apply to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), the country’s Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov said on Saturday.
“I would like to inform you about the decision to participate in the AIIB,” which was made by Russian President Vladimir Putin, Shuvalov said at the Boao Forum for Asia.

Shuvalov added that Russia welcomes China’s Silk Road Economic Belt initiative and is happy about stepping up cooperation.

"We are delighted to be able to step up cooperation in the format of the Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) and China...the free movement of goods and capital within the EEU brings economies of Europe and Asia closer. This is intertwined with the Silk Road Economic Belt initiative, launched by the Chinese leadership," he said.


This comes after yet another US ally threw its support behind the venture last week, as South Korea finally conceded that not joining really wasn’t an option if Seoul wanted to maintain its influence in the region. More color via Bloomberg:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...astructure-bank

Quote:
South Korea “needs to play the active role it deserves in the international community that’s comparable to its economic status, and AIIB would be an important gateway to expand our financial and diplomatic arena,” the Sejong, South Korea-based ministry said Thursday. The country will officially become a founding member of the AIIB once other members agree, and when the national assembly approves, according to the e-mailed statement.

Asia’s fourth-largest economy joins key U.S. allies from the U.K. to Germany and France in supporting China’s bid to create a new institution funding infrastructure projects in Asia. Japan is yet to make a decision on membership after the U.S. expressed concerns about the fund’s governance structure.


And then there’s The Netherlands, an official bid from Australia, and Brazil…Via Reuters:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/03/28/uk-europe-aiib-netherlands-idUKKBN0MO0FN20150328

Quote:
Russia, Australia and the Netherlands on Saturday became the latest three countries to say they plan to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB), adding clout to an institution seen as enhancing China's regional and global influence.

The AIIB, seen as a challenge to existing institutions the World Bank and Asian Development Bank, has drawn a cool response from the United States, despite which European U.S. allies including Britain, France, Germany and Italy have already announced they would join the bank.


Other countries such as Turkey and South Korea have also said they would join. Brazil, China's top trading partner, said on Friday it would sign up and that there were no conditions set. "Brazil is very interested in participating in this initiative," the office of President Dilma Rousseff said in a statement.

To make a long story short, everyone but the US and Japan are on board and Japan is seriously considering a bid. The question now is not whether de-dollarization is progressing or whether a shift away from US-dominated multinational institutions is in the offing (that horse, as one ADB official put it, has left the barn), but rather whether China will be aggressive about using the AIIB to begin a push towards yuan hegemony. Of course Beijing is playing down the idea that it will use the new development bank as a means of advancing China’s global footprint, but as we noted on Thursday, actions speak louder than words.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/29/15 04:14 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
New system, same or similar players, nothing has changed.

I do agree to some extend. I don't believe the AIIB and the BRICS will be successful on the long run; but they did bring down the Financial arm of Mystery Babylon and will succeed to bring down its Political arm thereafter.

China seems to be extremely flexible and forgiving. But I also hear plans of many arrests and bringing to court those Elites that doesn't comply or repent. We will soon see what will happen.

I do agree with you from what I've read(like recently Kissinger addressing China last week) that it seems as this new system might only have "similar players" and some "old player" might try to infiltrate the new system. This is what James Corbett believes. read --> http://lovingenergies.net/pt/Chinas-AIIB-What-You-Need-to-Know/blog.htm

I think James Corbett is a great journalist and have agreed with him on many other issues he brought to light. He does have some valid points in regards to the BRICS and the AIIB. However, I believe in the Lord's sovereignty and He will use this to fulfill His own plan. At the end, His plans always gets fulfilled and not man's plans.

I don't expect the AIIB and the BRICS to be perfect or successful. The Kings of the East (Medes and Persians) weren't perfect either when they overthrew old Babylon. However they were still the vessels the Lord used to throw Babylon down. They also emmediatly financed to restore Jerusalem & the land and the Temple aka the Kingdom of God. This is the TYPE that the Lord established and is following today.

Today China and Russian are the Kings of the Easts that threw down Mystery Babylon. And I don't believe that China and the BRICS nation will be able to bring a solution to this slavery system and bring back justice and order on earth. I expect new problems and old problems not resolved.

It is the Saints of the most Hight that have the solution and the Kingdom of God will look better than what AIIB or BRICS will offer. Another shift will happened as nations will join the coming Kingdom of God that will be led by uncorrupted Priests (Ezek 44 & 45). The Lord said that after the destruction of the statue, His Kingdom will grow gradually until it will occupy the whole earth(Dan 2:35).
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/27/15 01:53 AM

The news has been relatively quiet. Lots of little events taking place, but nothing really big.

I just listened to Jim Willie's last interview which is very good and informative about the latest.

Jim Willie: National Default, Dollar Collapse, Global Economic Crisis (Part 1)
and Lower Oil Price Crushing World Economy (Part 2)


April 24, 2015

"
IN THIS INTERVIEW:
-the fundamental ignorance of all matters pertaining to money & legal tender & and the dollar (even capitalism),
-the potential triggers for causing a systemic breakdown imminently,
-the impact of rising Emerging Market debt that is denominated in USDollars,
-the effects on big banks from debt failure event in Greece, but also somewhat Ukraine,
-the impact to the energy sector from lower oil prices with effect on financial firms,
-the impact to the USEconomy from lower oil prices on the labor market,
-the pathetic state of political leadership in the United States with lost hope"

(Part 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moWCziuB2EM&list=PLNwUWnJgSq_LsSyEjjIZEtrdUQFhgWWbN

{Part 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biNaI-frR8A&list=PLNwUWnJgSq_LsSyEjjIZEtrdUQFhgWWbN
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/15/15 07:00 PM

Operation Jade Helm 15 and Prophecy

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...5-and-prophecy/

May 12, 2015

Operation Jade Helm 15 is a military “exercise” scheduled for July 15 to Sept. 15, 2015.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theory

Many are speculating that it is really the US government preparing for economic collapse by declaring martial law and removing all “problem” people, including patriots and Christian leaders.

Personally, I wonder if this may actually be the Pentagon's way of preparing to arrest the Babylonian leaders of the Cabal in our own government and preparing for possible riots that the Cabal may stir up through its influence in the press and the paranoia in the alternate media.

This may actually be an outward sign of an internal war within the US government and the Pentagon itself. Certainly, there have been many reports about this in recent years. If any portion of these reports are true, the picture shows two factions in the Pentagon—one side working for the Cabal of American oligarchs, and the side working against them. Those working against them, it is said, are receiving assistance from the Elders in China.

My understanding of this is that it is the main focus of the covert war between East and West. Biblically, it is patterned after the Persian-Babylonian war which reached its culmination in Daniel 5. Revelation 16:12 tells us that this ancient war will be repeated in the struggle between Mystery Babylon and “the kings of the east.”

Benjamin Fulford has little understanding of Bible prophecy, but his sources among the White Dragon Family in Japan confirm my view about Jade Helm. Fulford wrote in his latest article for May 11, 2015,

Quote:
Pentagon sources say that a civil war is possible between the US military and mercenary armies paid by the Khazarian Mafia. The recent talk in the Khazarian propaganda press about some operation called “Jade Helm” is aimed at inciting Americans into believing US armed forces are their enemy. In addition, the Khazarians are now saying ISIS (Israeli Security Intelligence Service) is in the US ready to start trouble.

He adds this as well:

Quote:
The Khazarian Mafia is also issuing veiled threats it will “blow up” emerging markets. Timothy Adams, head of the Institute of International Finance, which represents the world’s biggest banks, issued this threat in a recent report.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/marke...-warns-IIF.html

However, US and Asian government sources say most of these big banks would be shut down despite these threats because they represent the Babylonian debt slavery system that is being dismantled in order to free humanity.
http://benjaminfulford.net/

In other words, the existing financial system is being threatened by both sides in the war between East and West. If the East shuts it down, it will be more orderly, but if the West shuts it down as a retaliatory measure (the "Samson Option"), it could cause quite a bit of chaos. Note that Fulford has adopted the biblical terminology describing the Western banking system as "Babylon."

Contradicting this is an article below from All News Pipeline which takes the position that Jade Helm 15 is a Babylonian attempt to deal with a coming financial collapse in America. They believe it is an attempt by our Babylonian government to declare martial law and to enslave Americans fully.

The article also talks about Jade Helm and its apparent partnership with Walmart:

Quote:
An All News Pipeline reader has emailed us the photographs seen both above and below showing a mysterious white truck at a Texas Wal-Mart, this one in Killeen, Texas, and asked us if we know what this truck is for. As you can clearly see in the images below, the truck has US government tags and according to a deep background source, is likely a part of the US Army ATEC Command, specifically a 'National Incident Command' vehicle, with many capabilities including hooking up a trailer to haul additional supplies if necessary….

Whether this US government owned vehicle is in Texas as part of a storm response team or there for Jade Helm 15 preparation, this is a mysterious US government owned truck at a Texas Wal-Mart and with everything else going on right now, nothing should be overlooked. Several email communications attempting to share these photographs with others were actually blocked several times from being sent, likely showing this is sensitive information. This also adds another layer of mystery to the theory that Wal-Marts across America are being set up to be used as emergency command centers, or worse, while preparing for the economic collapse of America, a massive build-up to something bad in America is clear.

The videos below share a myriad number of stories including a caller to the Alex Jones show from New Hampshire who tells us of a massive buildup of tanks in the 'Live Free or Die' state in the 1st video, the 2nd video gives us more evidence that Jade Helm is being put in place for the coming financial collapse of America….

Regardless of the military’s motives for carrying out Operation Jade Helm 15, we ought to be aware of it and to prepare for possible problems this summer. However, it is more important to know what the Father is doing, because the plans of men are largely concealed for obvious reasons. God reveals, man conceals. It is not unusual for the plans of God and men to look like total contradictions. It is also not unusual for it to appear as if the plans of men are succeeding until the eleventh hour. (Note Pharaoh’s army at the Red Sea or King Sennacherib’s attempt to take Jerusalem in the time of Hezekiah.)

Reports have circulated for years, however, that there are many military men in the Pentagon who are genuinely alarmed at the covert takeover of the US government by a banking Cabal that has turned us from a government “for the people” to a government for the oligarchs. Certainly, they are well aware of the change in US policy in 2001, where the Cabal deliberately demolished the Twin Towers in order to justify the so-called “Patriot Act.”

They are also aware of the US policy to destabilize the Middle East. General Wesley Clark has been talking about this for many years to expose the real reason for US military operations in the Middle East.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJUnG3Z6WI#sthash.5Lyfz2iR.dpuf

If General Wesley Clark knows about it, then certainly the other generals all know about it, too. The only question is whether or not they agree with that policy. Many are very concerned about this and want to reinstate the Constitution as the basis of government and law.

There has also been much talk about reinstating the original Republic and removing the USA from its current status as a bankrupt entity that was taken over by its creditors in 1933 under President Roosevelt. It is said that the Chinese Elders have a great interest in seeing the Republic established as well, along with the overthrow of the western oligarchs. The main reason, perhaps, is because the Federal Reserve has consistently refused to repay its gold loans to the Elders, even though the World Court has ruled against the Fed in lawsuits since 1978.

A few years ago reports began to say that the Pentagon was about to arrest key members of government for treason. The same reports warned people not to take the side of the traitors but to prepare for up to two weeks of possible disruption. These arrests did not occur, of course, at least until now, but it makes me wonder if Jade Helm 15 is part of this plan. If so, I would characterize it as the repeat of the event in Daniel 5.

Consider the name of this operation. Every military operation is named carefully, either as a propaganda trick to make it seem the opposite of reality, or as a true but hidden description of the operation. So what is the meaning of the name Operation Jade Helm 15? When one “takes the helm,” it indicates a change of leadership or control. Jade itself is a green stone most associated with China. I do not know why they attached the number 15 to it, but to me the number signifies a new direction.

The Walmart connection is strange, but since 1996 Walmart has been the main importer of goods from China. Since then Walmart’s business and its very survival has been tied to China. For many years I have called it China, Inc. Perhaps this is why Walmarts around the country have been in close cooperation with Jade Helm, possibly being used as Command Centers for Jade Helm.

Whatever the case, it is clear that the time is fast approaching when Bible prophecy will be fulfilled. The problem comes mostly from those who do not understand the divine plan set forth in Scripture. Their prophetic viewpoints make them believe that “The Great Tribulation” is coming, rather than the Kingdom of God. They are looking more for “The Antichrist,” rather than the real Christ. And they do not realize that the Tribulation has been going on since the captivities of Israel and Judah in biblical times. They do not know that Antichrist has been with us at least since the days when John wrote his first epistle (1 John 2:22, 23).

In other words, we are now at the END of the Tribulation. We are not looking for its starting point. The future is good, not evil, though at the present time we are still in the climax of this tribulation. We are not looking for the establishment of Mystery Babylon, but at its demise. We are looking for the new “kings of the east” to dry up the liquidity of Babylon, that is, its money, and to breach the walls of Babylon by coming into the city between the BANKS of the river.

When Cyrus and Darius took Babylon in Daniel 5, they took the city intact. There was no great destruction, nor were masses of people killed. For prophetic purposes the Bible records only that the king was killed (Daniel 5:30). Those kings of the east then set God’s people free so that they could return and rebuild Jerusalem and the temple. In our time the new kings of the east have the same calling. God has raised them up to set us free from our present captivity to Mystery Babylon.

Many Christians, however, have been taught that China and Russia are the bad guys in prophecy. This is due mostly to their view that Russia will invade Israel and that China will send a 200 million man army (Revelation 9:16) to cross the Euphrates in order to march against the land of Israel.

Their view of prophecy misapplies these prophecies, forcing them also to conclude that the kings of the east in Revelation 16:12 are the enemies of God. Therefore they cannot see the obvious connection to the original kings of the east (Cyrus and Darius), whom God raised up to set His people free and to fund the rebuilding of the Kingdom of God.

Daniel never condemned Cyrus and Darius, and Isaiah 45:1 literally calls Cyrus a “messiah,” one whom God would anoint for a special purpose for the good of the world. How is it, then, that so many prophecy teachers think that the kings of the east are evil? They think this because of prior assumptions inherent in their view of prophecy.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/20/15 06:09 PM

Quote:
Operation Jade Helm 15 is a military “exercise” scheduled for July 15 to Sept. 15, 2015.
Quote:
Consider the name of this operation. Every military operation is named carefully, either as a propaganda trick to make it seem the opposite of reality, or as a true but hidden description of the operation. So what is the meaning of the name Operation Jade Helm 15? When one “takes the helm,” it indicates a change of leadership or control. Jade itself is a green stone most associated with China. I do not know why they attached the number 15 to it, but to me the number signifies a new direction.
No idea, huh?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/21/15 02:31 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Quote:
Operation Jade Helm 15 is a military “exercise” scheduled for July 15 to Sept. 15, 2015.
Quote:
Consider the name of this operation. Every military operation is named carefully, either as a propaganda trick to make it seem the opposite of reality, or as a true but hidden description of the operation. So what is the meaning of the name Operation Jade Helm 15? When one “takes the helm,” it indicates a change of leadership or control. Jade itself is a green stone most associated with China. I do not know why they attached the number 15 to it, but to me the number signifies a new direction.
No idea, huh?


??? No idea about the name Jade Helm 15 or the operation?

Well we'll soon find out if this is just another distraction or a real operation.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/22/15 05:26 PM

Ummm, I hope you didn't miss what I was saying about the 15th.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/22/15 06:11 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Ummm, I hope you didn't miss what I was saying about the 15th.

?? you said something about the 15th? 15th of June? In some other discussion?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/01/15 07:41 PM

June? No.

Do you see any 15's in the post I made about the no idea, huh?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/20/15 03:25 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
June? No.

Do you see any 15's in the post I made about the no idea, huh?

Sorry, at time I don't get what you mean. So you were refering to Stephen's speculation about what he thought Jade Helm 15 meant. Is there something wrong with that?

Man(women and men) including the Saints needs to try to understand what the Lord is doing. In wondering what the signs means -- we speculate. It's ok to speculate as long you make it clear it is a speculation when and if you share it. He did that very clearly.

We will soon find out what the government will succeed to do with their Jade Helm 15 operation and what the Lord will do with it inside His plan.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/20/15 05:48 PM

On the news front, a lot of the same old that is repeated and a lot of further progress in all realm to this coming economic collapse and banking restructure.

Right now all eyes is on Greece.

-Last month, Russia invited Greece to join the BRICS group.

-Yesterday, Russia and Greece signed an aggreement on the Pipeline to bring gas to Europe thru Greece and Turkey.

-While last week G7 meeting, Europe agreed to continue sanctions on Russia until January 2016, while Russia will continue to ban food from the EU in the exception of Greece, Cyprus, and Hungary.

-Greece delayed their June 5th IMF debt{1.6 Euro Billion} payment to June 30th. The thing is on June 30th Greece owes another debt regarding the Pensions and Wages of 1.5 Billion Euros. So most believe they will not meet either payments and its just kicking the can further down the road. So everyone is getting ready for a Greek default and an exit of the EU.

-Zerohedge writes that the Greek default will likely bring down the Deutsche Bank that has been in trouble since last year and looking like the Lehman Brothers collapse.

-June 15th : Greece is preparing to default. Stephen Jones comment, The failure of the negotiations between Greece and the European Central Bank yesterday has resulted in both sides taking steps to prepare for default. It looks like Greece is anticipating that the ECB will use bank deposits in a “bail-in,” to help pay debts. So King World News shows the latest move that the Greek government has taken to get those deposits out of the ECB’s reach.

http://kingworldnews.com/turbulence-in-major-markets-to-be-sparked-by-greek-default/

Quote:
There is one last point about Greece worth mentioning, Eric: Greece is clearly preparing for a default.

The Athens government has asked all cities and other governmental bodies to move their available cash into accounts at the central bank. This is being reported in the mainstream media as a way for the central government to get its hands on more cash, but that is not correct.

It is to prevent the ECB from taking this cash of governmental bodies when the ECB finally bails-in the private Greek banks. In other words, in a bail-in the ECB takes the euros deposited in private banks, but not the euros deposited in the central bank. So by putting their euro deposits into the central bank, Greece’s governmental bodies can keep their money out of the hands of the ECB. It’s just more evidence that Greece – not the troika – holds all the cards."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/28/15 05:51 PM

Chinese gold standard would be a game changer
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...a-game-changer/

Jun 27, 2015

"Bloomberg is speculating about what would happen if China adopts a gold standard to back their money.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/chinese-gold-standard-would-be-game-changer-bloomberg-intelligence/

Quote:
Could gold, the world’s longest running currency be used to create a new order in global currencies? The Chinese central bank is said to be considering backing its yuan with the yellow metal. This move, says Ken Hoffman, Global Head of Metals and Mining Research for Bloomberg Intelligence, would be a “game changer….”

Hoffman estimates that to create an exchange rate of one ounce of gold for every $64,000, the country would need about 10,000 metric tons of the metal. “That’s nine times the nation’s official holdings and about 6 percent of all the bullion ever mined globally,” Hoffman says.

"China has not updated their official gold holdings for some years. Yet it is clear that they have been buying feverishly. They are also the world’s largest producer of gold, but the mines sell it all to the government.

"Hoffman is suggesting that when they announce their gold standard, they could have about 10,000 tons of gold. Others suggest that they could have 30,000 tons. He says that if they have 10,000 tons of gold, the price would need to be $64,000/ounce in order to back up their currency 100%.

"Of course, if they have 30,000 tons, then the price of gold would only need to rise to about $21,000/ounce. Either way, this shows how we could be moving toward a sudden rise in the price of gold, and that this event probably would be triggered by China’s announcement that they are adopting the gold standard to back their currency.

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Moving to a gold standard may also be a question of power for China. Hoffman says that when the U.S. adopted a gold standard after World War II, it emerged as the main power in the International Monetary Fund. In 1971, the U.S. ended the use of the gold standard and rendered the dollar a fiat currency. If China decides to go into some form of a gold standard, Hoffman says it would make the rest of the world view the metal as a currency again. “If they go for it, we’d be talking about fireworks,” he says.

"Yes, if (when) China does this, the Federal Reserve banks will no longer be able to call gold a “barbaric relic.” They would have to see it as money once again, rather than as a mere commodity.

"Conversely, when the Fed is forced to admit that most of its gold is just gold-plated tungsten, that is when the real fireworks will begin.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/28/15 05:56 PM

A good 3 min summary.

"Sell Everything Immediatly!"
3min youtube video
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/28/15 06:01 PM

Greek plan for referendum rejected by European leaders

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.AUAAV0GQ.dpuf

Jun 27, 2015

Greece’s latest exercise in democracy is being rejected by European leaders. The Greek president announced yesterday that he would present the final European proposal to the people to let them accept or reject it. This made the European leaders angry, so it appears that they are now resigned to a Greek default next Tuesday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/27/greece-bailout-extension-rejected_n_7678488.html

Greece tried to put this to a referendum four years ago in October 2011, but the referendum was cancelled after European leaders rejected the idea.

The Greek view: The people should have the right to decide if they want to be enslaved in order to pay off the “odious” debt incurred by decision of politicians and bankers.

The European view: The Greek people should not have the right to vote on whether or not to pay what they owe. The politicians only gave the people what they wanted in terms of pensions and retirement benefits, so the people are indeed responsible.

There are, of course, deeper issues, including the role of Goldman Sachs, which used illegal methods (like hiding debt) to allow Greece to qualify to join the Eurozone some years ago.

Under biblical law, debtors are to be enslaved until their debts are paid. However, the law also mandates a rest from debt payments every seventh year, and a complete cancellation of debt every 50th year. The Eurozone does not recognize God’s law, however, because the foundation of their legal system is the law of Justinian. This is the law of the “little horn,” which in 534 A.D. established Church law, not God’s law. (So how’s that working out for you?)

I don’t like to criticize without also providing some kind of solution. So here goes…

I believe these financial events are first steps toward fundamental changes in the law of nations. It is becoming increasingly apparent to everyone that the current economic laws of Western countries are inadequate in the long run. We can see now that man’s laws lead either to total slavery to the creditors or to a repudiation of the unsustainable debt.

It’s not that people didn’t know this would happen a long time ago. They could do the math. I was reading about this over 40 years ago. It’s just that now the math has caught up to us, and the time is ripe for judgment. Men used to laugh at the idea of a Jubilee. Now there is a growing chorus among financial experts that we have no choice but to declare a Jubilee.

Circumstances will force a Jubilee, and there is nothing that the creditors can do about it, short of enforcing enslavement by military means. The real question is whether men will stop despising God’s law and actually implement the Jubilee. If they simply wipe out the debt but keep the present laws in place, then we will be back to square one in another hundred years.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/15 12:27 AM

My Comment: The Lord is fulfilling by repeating the pattern He set with the fall of old Babylon. It was the Babylonian government that fell but there were no destruction of the people. Right after Cyrus, one of the Kings of the East, concquered Babylon, he set up funds to restore the nations by funding their cities, churches, and the people. The nation of Judah benefited from Cyrus generosity and that how the city of Jerusalem was restored and the temple rebuild.

We're seeing the Lord fulfilling this Type. China, who are the Cyrus of today, will be funding the nations with this 21 Trillions dollars this coming 5 years.

This King of the East will also fund the "Kingdom of God" like they did 2,300 years ago.

Also, watch for a coming Jubilee across the world like it was when old Babylon was concquered.

With $21 Trillion, China’s Savers Are Set to Change the World
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...hange-the-world

by Enda CurranJeff Kearns
June 25, 2015 — 7:00 PM ADT

Few events will be as significant for the world in the next 15 years as China opening its capital borders, a shift that economists and regulators across the world are now starting to grapple with.

With China’s leadership aiming to scale back the role of investment in the domestic economy, the nation’s surfeit of savings -- deposits currently stand at $21 trillion -- will increasingly need to be deployed overseas. That’s also becoming easier, as Premier Li Keqiang relaxes capital-flow regulations.

The consequences ultimately could rival the transformation wrought by the Communist nation’s fusion with the global trading system, capped by its 2001 World Trade Organization entry. That stage saw goods made cheaper across the world, boosting the purchasing power of low-income families at the cost of hollowed-out industries.

Some changes are easy to envision: watch out for Mao Zedong’s visage on banknotes as the yuan makes its way into more corners of the globe. China’s giant banks will increasingly dot New York, London and Tokyo skylines, joining U.S., European and Japanese names. Property prices from California to Sydney to Southeast Asia already have seen the influence of Chinese buying.

Other shifts are tougher to gauge. International investors including pension funds, which have had limited entry to China to date, will pour in, clouding how big a net money exporter China will be. Deutsche Bank AG is among those foreseeing mass net outflows, which could go to fund large-scale infrastructure, or stoke asset prices by depressing long-term borrowing costs.

‘Historic Proportions’
“This era will be marked by China shifting from a large net importer of capital to one of the world’s largest exporters of capital,” Charles Li, chief executive officer of Hong Kong Exchanges & Clearing Ltd., the city’s stock market, wrote in a blog this month. Eventually, there will be “fund outflows of historic proportions, driven by China’s needs to deploy and diversify its national wealth to the global markets,” he wrote.
The continuing opening of China’s capital account will also promote the trading of commodities in yuan, and boost China’s
ability to influence their prices, according to an analysis by

Bloomberg Intelligence.
As was the case with China’s WTO entry, where many of the hurdles had been cleared in the years leading up to 2001, policy makers in Beijing have been easing restrictions on the currency, the flow of money and interest rates for years. What’s making 2015 notable is the International Monetary Fund’s once-in-five-year review of its basket of reserve currencies. China wants in, and is accelerating reforms to get there.


Offshore Centers
Recent steps to promote its currency have included setting up five offshore yuan centers, a new link between the Shanghai and Hong Kong stock exchanges and letting the tightly controlled yuan trade against the dollar in a wider band. It has promised to remove a cap on interest paid to savers.
“The integration of China –- the world’s second-largest economy with the highest saving rate but still a low per capita income -– into the global capital markets is an unprecedented event,” China International Capital Corp. economists led by Beijing-based Liang Hong wrote in a note this month.

There are already signs of that potential. Chinese buyers topped Canadians to rank as the biggest foreign purchasers of U.S. homes by sales and dollar volume in the year through March, accounting for more than a quarter of all international spending.


Moving Abroad

Lenders are speeding up their ambitions: Bank of
Communications Co., China’s fifth-largest lender, is making its first overseas acquisition by buying a lender in Brazil, while China Construction Bank Corp. plans to open branches in Europe, Southeast Asia and Africa.

The global community is watching. U.S. Treasury Secretary Jacob L. Lew said after meetings this week between U.S. and Chinese officials that China is committed to pushing through necessary reforms to liberalize interest rates, open capital markets and open up more to foreign enterprises. The U.S. wants more access to the world’s second-biggest economy for its financial firms, something that’s been elusive since China’s WTO entry.

Few expect the yuan to soon threaten the dollar’s role as the global reserve currency, with a wave of domestic reforms needed first up to reassure international investors -- such as bolstering liquidity in the local bond market.

While U.S. policy makers are betting that a more open China will ease currency tensions between the two nations, any rapid depreciation in the yuan could trigger large-scale capital outflows, prompting intervention and new restrictions from China’s policy makers.


U.S. Friendly

“If they’re going to be gradually opening up to be like the U.S., then vast amounts of money are going to flow overseas,” said David Dollar, who served as U.S. Treasury attache in China and is now a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington. “I would speculate that it favors the U.S. over everything else.”

Other nations, from Argentina to South Korea, have suffered whiplash from volatile capital flows after they eased restrictions. While China is unlikely to tear down the barricades altogether, the opening of the nation’s capital borders will reverberate across the world.

“I don’t think you can find any significant economic system where deposits in the banking system are twice GDP,” said Nicholas Lardy, who has studied China for more than three decades and is a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics. “That’s the potential.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/15 03:22 PM

Here Comes "Prexit": Puerto Rico In "Death Spiral", Debts Are "Not Payable", Governor Refuses To "Kick The Can"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-28...t-payable-refus
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As we noted last night, for a whole lot of time nothing at all can happen under the guise of "containment"... and then everything happens all at once. Because not even two full days after Greece activated the "Grexit" emergency protocol, leading to capital controls, and a frozen banking system and stock market, moments ago the NYT reported that the default wave has jumped the Atlantic and has hit Puerto Rico whose governor Alejandro García Padilla, saying he needs to pull the island out of a “death spiral,” has concluded that the commonwealth cannot pay its roughly $72 billion in debts, an admission that will probably have wide-reaching financial repercussions.

In other words, first Greece, and now Puerto Rico may be in a state of Schrodingerian default. Why the ambiguity? Because while Greece is not technically in default until July 1, Puerto Rico does not even have an option to declare outright default. But that doesn't mean that the commonwealth will service it. Quoted by the NYT, García Padilla said "The debt is not payable." He added that "there is no other option. I would love to have an easier option. This is not politics, this is math.”

Funny: math went out the window in 2009 when central bank "faith" took over. The problem is that faith has run out, as has the "political capital" to keep an insolvent global system running, and first Greece now Puerto Rico are finally realizing it.

As the NYT adds, this is "a startling admission from the governor of an island of 3.6 million people, which has piled on more municipal bond debt per capita than any American state."

More:

A broad restructuring by Puerto Rico sets the stage for an unprecedented test of the United States municipal bond market, which cities and states rely on to pay for their most basic needs, like road construction and public hospitals.

That market has already been shaken by municipal bankruptcies in Detroit; Stockton, Calif.; and elsewhere, which undercut assumptions that local governments in the United States would always pay back their debt.

The immediate implication, as accurately presented by the NYT, is that Puerto Rico's call for debt relief on such a vast scale could raise borrowing costs for other local governments as investors become more wary of lending. Indicatively, Puerto Rico’s bonds have a face value roughly eight times that of Detroit’s bonds.

What is worse for the illusions that is US "capital markets" is that virtually all the same hedge funds who are long Greece on hopes of some central bank bailout, are also long Puerto Rico. As such, while tomorrow most will be spared...... some of the most "respected" US hedge funds will suffer a gruesome bloodbath.

What happens next is unclear: "Puerto Rico, as a commonwealth, does not have the option of bankruptcy. A default on its debts would most likely leave the island, its creditors and its residents in a legal and financial limbo that, like the debt crisis in Greece, could take years to sort out."

So without the "luxury" of default, what is PR to do? Why petition to be allowed to file Chapter 9 naturally: after all everyone is doing it.

In Washington, the García Padilla administration has been pushing for a bill that would allow the island’s public corporations, like its electrical power authority and water agency, to declare bankruptcy. Of Puerto Rico’s $72 billion in bonds, roughly $25 billion were issued by the public corporations.

Some officials and advisers say Congress needs to go further and permit Puerto Rico’s central government to file for bankruptcy — or risk chaos.

“There are way too many creditors and way too many kinds of debt,” Mr. Rhodes said in an interview. “They need Chapter 9 for the whole commonwealth.”

García Padilla said that his government could not continue to borrow money to address budget deficits while asking its residents, already struggling with high rates of poverty and crime, to shoulder most of the burden through tax increases and pension cuts. Where have we heard that before...

He said creditors must now “share the sacrifices” that he has imposed on the island’s residents.

“If they don’t come to the table, it will be bad for them,” said Mr. García Padilla, who plans to speak about the fiscal crisis in a televised address to Puerto Rico residents on Monday evening. “What will happen is that our economy will get into a worse situation and we’ll have less money to pay them. They will be shooting themselves in the foot.”
And the punchline:

“My administration is doing everything not to default,” Mr. García Padilla said. “But we have to make the economy grow,” he added. “If not, we will be in a death spiral.”
And this one: any deal with hedge funds, who are desperate to inject more capital in PR so they can avoid writing down their bond exposure in case of a default, "would only postpone Puerto Rico’s inevitable reckoning. “It will kick the can,” Mr. García Padilla said. “I am not kicking the can.”

We wonder how long before Tsipras, who earlier was quoting FDR, steals this line too.

And speaking of Prexit, how long before Puerto Rico exits the Dollarzone... and will there be a Preferendum first or will the governor, in his can kick-less stampede, just make a unilateral decision to join Greece, Ukraine, Venezuela and countless other soon to be broke countries in the twilight zone of Keynesian sovereign failures?

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/15 04:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
June? No.

Do you see any 15's in the post I made about the no idea, huh?

Sorry, at time I don't get what you mean. So you were refering to Stephen's speculation about what he thought Jade Helm 15 meant. Is there something wrong with that?

Man(women and men) including the Saints needs to try to understand what the Lord is doing. In wondering what the signs means -- we speculate. It's ok to speculate as long you make it clear it is a speculation when and if you share it. He did that very clearly.

We will soon find out what the government will succeed to do with their Jade Helm 15 operation and what the Lord will do with it inside His plan.
I think you need to go back to the original comment which caused me to say "no idea, huh?". There seems to be a disconnect here....
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/15 05:53 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
June? No.

Do you see any 15's in the post I made about the no idea, huh?

Sorry, at time I don't get what you mean. So you were refering to Stephen's speculation about what he thought Jade Helm 15 meant. Is there something wrong with that?

Man(women and men) including the Saints needs to try to understand what the Lord is doing. In wondering what the signs means -- we speculate. It's ok to speculate as long you make it clear it is a speculation when and if you share it. He did that very clearly.

We will soon find out what the government will succeed to do with their Jade Helm 15 operation and what the Lord will do with it inside His plan.
I think you need to go back to the original comment which caused me to say "no idea, huh?". There seems to be a disconnect here....


Yes I do agree there's a disconnect between you and I. We are on different wave lenght which is not so unusual as all the people are not in harmony yet. I do believe the Lord will get us all on the same wave lenght. It will take some time, but it will be done according to His word. 'till then, we need to do our best to understand each other.

In regards to Jade Helm 15....it is a military exercise...there's no doubt about that as it is seen in the US. What is the mystery as it is not reveal to the people yet, is it's purpose. That's what Stephen Jones speculated based on the name they have called their operation and based on what he knows the Lord is doing right now. Jade = Chinese, Helm = helmet(head), 15 = ??? unknown. There's nothing wrong to try to figure out what the operation purpose with the name it was given.

I have seen many others from secular groups that have the same speculation. I have not read anyone trying to decode the name though. But we(the sheeples) won't know its purpose until the operation is completed and has become more transparent to us. Time will tell the truth as with all other truths that will be reveal by the Lord who is working out the events and fulfilling His prophecies according to His own will at His own good pleasure. Man may have some wills and plans, but it is always the Lord's will and plans that get fulfilled at the end.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/15 08:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
A good 3 min summary.
"Sell Everything Immediatly!"
3min youtube video

Elle, have you sold everything in your possession? Or are you like the Scribes and Pharisees of whom Jesus spoke saying, according to Mat. 23:4, "For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers"?

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/15 10:05 PM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
A good 3 min summary.
"Sell Everything Immediatly!"
3min youtube video

Elle, have you sold everything in your possession?

You misunderstood. I didn't get it at first either.

His statement is related to the context of the video. Since they have showed quickly that the EU and their countries are all bankrupt -- what I understand his message is -- to sell everything in form of paper that is based on this rediculous insolvent unsubstainable fiat money system for their whole system is about to collapse.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/30/15 12:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
His statement is related to the context of the video. Since they have showed quickly that the EU and their countries are all bankrupt -- what I understand his message is -- to sell everything in form of paper that is based on this rediculous insolvent unsubstainable fiat money system for their whole system is about to collapse.

The money (or currency) is NOT the problem, but the unwillingness of the indebted to honour their debt. Banks collapse when people who borrowed refuse to pay back their loans, and this leaves others without the means to generate wealth. Suddenly, jobs go, commodities dwindle and the society collapses on itself. The entire financial system runs on the confidence that currency is circulating freely and fairly.

If you want to leave the system, you are free to do so; but that is NOT what the Bible recommends. Jesus said, "Render to Caesar, the things that are Caesar's; and to God, those things that are His." (Mat. 22:20-22)

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/30/15 04:11 AM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
The money (or currency) is NOT the problem, but the unwillingness of the indebted to honour their debt. Banks collapse when people who borrowed refuse to pay back their loans, and this leaves others without the means to generate wealth. Suddenly, jobs go, commodities dwindle and the society collapses on itself. The entire financial system runs on the confidence that currency is circulating freely and fairly.


I think you need to get informed how the current system works. Check this very good graphic 30 min explaination posted on page 25. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0.

It is a debt based system using usury to enslaved men and nations. In the long run, mathematically it doesn't work and was design to fail from the start.

BTW there's no "free market".....all is rigged by them. Read up on the Libor scandal. (I have posted some stuff about the libor and other manipulation starting on page 11)

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If you want to leave the system, you are free to do so; but that is NOT what the Bible recommends. Jesus said, "Render to Caesar, the things that are Caesar's; and to God, those things that are His." (Mat. 22:20-22)


I'm in agreement with Jesus about submitting to the government the Lord places over us. (see Rom 13). I'm not advocating leaving the system. However the Lord also told us that this BEAST Empire (Mystery Babylon) is going to fall. This has been going on little by little by weakening it since 1990s and the entire collapse of the system is happening now.

The Lord told us ahead of time so we won't be dismayed when it happens and wisely prepare ourself to secure our wealth (& our families)that was entrusted to us so we can be ready to invest ourself and our wealth for the building of the next Kingdom. The next Kingdom we know that it will be the Kingdom of God, an everlasting Kingdom, that will be given to the Saints of the Most High(Daniel 2 & 7).

Now if you loose all your savings and wealth during this transfer of Kingdoms, you'll look very foolish and you won't be able to tell the Lord or your family you didn't know about it.
Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/30/15 05:25 PM

Originally Posted By: james
The money (or currency) is NOT the problem, but the unwillingness of the indebted to honour their debt. Banks collapse when people who borrowed refuse to pay back their loans, and this leaves others without the means to generate wealth.
You need to understand fractional reserve banking. It only takes a small percentage of people or corporations to not pay back their debt to cause instability in the entire system.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/30/15 11:13 PM

Originally Posted By: APL
It only takes a small percentage of people or corporations to not pay back their debt to cause instability in the entire system.

FYI: Fractional Reserve Banking

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Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/30/15 11:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
It is a debt based system using usury to enslaved men and nations. In the long run, mathematically it doesn't work and was design to fail from the start.

Really? That's odd. Who then will be the beneficiaries in the end and in what way will they have benefited from designing a sure-fail system?

Originally Posted By: Elle
Now if you loose all your savings and wealth during this transfer of Kingdoms, you'll look very foolish and you won't be able to tell the Lord or your family you didn't know about it.

Mat. 6:19-21 says, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal ..."

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Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/01/15 04:39 AM

The fractional reserve system is based on debt. But I agree with you in your quote of Matthew, storing you treasure as pavement, that is gold, does not preserve you.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/01/15 05:12 AM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
It is a debt based system using usury to enslaved men and nations. In the long run, mathematically it doesn't work and was design to fail from the start.

Really? That's odd. Who then will be the beneficiaries in the end and in what way will they have benefited from designing a sure-fail system?

Of course -- the Elites of Mystery Babylon that suceeded to put the people and the nations in debt to them forever. That's the purpose of a debt based system : they are the creditors that makes money out of thin air and lend it to us with interest....

The simple math is this : a nation that was loaned $100 million and are requested to pay back $130 Million ... it doesn't work as there's only 100 million in the national pool. Now you may say, well you can get the extra $30 million from another nation. That other nation is under the same system and also owe an extra $30Million. They may give you $30Million but they are $60 million short. That is what happened to Greece. Watch the 3min video again. At the end of the story is every country ends up indebted because there's not enough money to pay the debt back.

In another word : The creditors of Mystery Babylon gives us printed papers owing interest and we are forced to buy and sell with their worthless printed papers. They made it illegal to exchange with any other currencies or monies besides what they give us. They made it impossible to pay the debt back in full. So with time the people and the nation debt increases, we are forced to sell them our land, any other possession and our freedom. They end up having everything and us nothing. They become our masters and we are their slaves because we OWE THEM a DEBT that continually INCREASES and never gets paid..... THUS they have succeeded to take all our possesion and make us a FOREVER SLAVES to them, just the way they planned it from the beginning ....all this with only worthless papers.

How unreasonable and ridiculous this whole situation have become? How have we come to accept this ridiculous system? Why have we not seen through this? Is it because we do not know the Lord's ideal economic ways given in His laws?

That's why the Lord forbade usury(charging interest) and implemented a Jubilee(foregiveness of all debt every 50 years) in His kingdom laws. Why aren't we Christians not in favor to the Lord's economic ways? Why have we not implemented the Lord's ways in our land? Why have we accepted Mystery Babylon's ways? Don't we believe the Lord's ways is better? Maybe now we will take a second look at the Lord's laws and come to see it wise beyond measure.

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
Now if you loose all your savings and wealth during this transfer of Kingdoms, you'll look very foolish and you won't be able to tell the Lord or your family you didn't know about it.

Mat. 6:19-21 says, "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal ..."

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Do you use money to buy food? to pay your rent? or mortgage or pay taxes? etc... ????? Do you give all your surplus money away to the needy and never store any? I think your own words may apply to you :
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"Or are you like the Scribes and Pharisees of whom Jesus spoke saying, according to Mat. 23:4, "For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers"?

The message in Mat 6:19-21 is not to make money your idol. The Lord also told us to be good stewards with what was given to us. He will make us accountable to what was entrusted to us. The key is being a good steward without making money our priority or idol.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/01/15 05:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle

In regards to Jade Helm 15....it is a military exercise...there's no doubt about that as it is seen in the US. What is the mystery as it is not reveal to the people yet, is it's purpose. That's what Stephen Jones speculated based on the name they have called their operation and based on what he knows the Lord is doing right now. Jade = Chinese, Helm = helmet(head), 15 = ??? unknown.
Elle, do you suppose that if it was held from the 17th of a month to the 17th of another month, do you suppose, could it be a possibility, that it could be called Jade Helm 17?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/01/15 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
His statement is related to the context of the video. Since they have showed quickly that the EU and their countries are all bankrupt -- what I understand his message is -- to sell everything in form of paper that is based on this rediculous insolvent unsubstainable fiat money system for their whole system is about to collapse.

The money (or currency) is NOT the problem, but the unwillingness of the indebted to honour their debt.
James, you don't understand. First it was gold. Once everyone bought gold, then they said silver. This is to promote buying silver. It's a market ploy/scheme.

And certain people around here seem to think we need to transfer our wealth into pavement for the millennium to be held on this earth.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/02/15 02:35 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
His statement is related to the context of the video. Since they have showed quickly that the EU and their countries are all bankrupt -- what I understand his message is -- to sell everything in form of paper that is based on this rediculous insolvent unsubstainable fiat money system for their whole system is about to collapse.

The money (or currency) is NOT the problem, but the unwillingness of the indebted to honour their debt.
James, you don't understand. First it was gold. Once everyone bought gold, then they said silver. This is to promote buying silver. It's a market ploy/scheme.

And certain people around here seem to think we need to transfer our wealth into pavement for the millennium to be held on this earth.

I also said it can be anything that is not related to their paper system : land, property, material for your business, etc... anything that will retain its value when the transfer of kingdoms happens.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/02/15 03:13 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle

In regards to Jade Helm 15....it is a military exercise...there's no doubt about that as it is seen in the US. What is the mystery as it is not reveal to the people yet, is it's purpose. That's what Stephen Jones speculated based on the name they have called their operation and based on what he knows the Lord is doing right now. Jade = Chinese, Helm = helmet(head), 15 = ??? unknown.
Elle, do you suppose that if it was held from the 17th of a month to the 17th of another month, do you suppose, could it be a possibility, that it could be called Jade Helm 17?

Mystery Babylon's top leaders are linked with many or some of these factions: the Masons, Jesuits, Illuminati, Luciferians, Bilgerberg, Commitee of 300, etc... These factions are deep in numerology. Numbers have meanings for them. They often coordinate operation on specific dates that represents particle numbers because of its meanings. I do not know what 15 means to them.

But keep in mind that the Lord also have numbers and expressed these in the Bible and have also meanings. The Lord's number meanings and their number meanings are not the same.

But for sure they have coordinated the date of the events (June 15 to July 15) with the name of their operation that has 15 in it which mean something specific to them.

I have heard from multiple sources that the US government is divided in two : those complying to Mystery Babylon's agenda, and those that counter it who are known as the "white hats". Many of these "white hats" are people that were once with Mystery Babylon and were inked with one or many of its factions. So some of these "white hats" guys are schooled in Mystery Babylon numerology.

So it is speculated by many that Jade Helm 15 is an operation led by the "white hats" in the Pentagon. If that is so, they may be using the number "15" to convey to the bad guys a particular message.

Then despite of all that, the Lord may use this operation by putting His own spin to it by causing an unexpected event or just causing a different outcome to fullfill His own plan and His own meaning of the number 15.

Something to watch and time will tell.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/03/15 07:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
A good 3 min summary.

"Sell Everything Immediatly!"
3min youtube video
Cute.


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anything that will retain its value when the transfer of kingdoms happens.
There's no transfer of kingdoms which relate to material things. Show otherwise in the Bible.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/04/15 04:05 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle

anything that will retain its value when the transfer of kingdoms happens.
There's no transfer of kingdoms which relate to material things. Show otherwise in the Bible.


AV Dn 2:35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Daniel 2 is taking about the succession of kingdoms on EARTH. First the 4 Beasts Kingdoms, followed by God's Kingdom that it is said in Daniel 2 to start small as a stone that will grow to a big mountain that will filled the whole EARTH.


AV Re 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

AV Re 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

As far as I know, the earth is made of material things including our bodies. We will still need to eat, have a shelter, and provide for others.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/06/15 11:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
But for sure they have coordinated the date of the events (June 15 to July 15) with the name of their operation that has 15 in it which mean something specific to them.
I guess I'm saying that they named their operation to match the dates. And you're saying they picked the dates to match their operation.

Me thinks you are making more out of numbers than they are.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/07/15 01:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle

anything that will retain its value when the transfer of kingdoms happens.
There's no transfer of kingdoms which relate to material things. Show otherwise in the Bible.


AV Dn 2:35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

Daniel 2 is taking about the succession of kingdoms on EARTH. First the 4 Beasts Kingdoms, followed by God's Kingdom that it is said in Daniel 2 to start small as a stone that will grow to a big mountain that will filled the whole EARTH.


AV Re 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

AV Re 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

As far as I know, the earth is made of material things including our bodies. We will still need to eat, have a shelter, and provide for others.
Actually what I was talking about was that there's no transfer of kingdoms which relate to material things. And you shown from your quotes indicating that material things will be swept away.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/08/15 11:18 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
And you shown from your quotes indicating that material things will be swept away.

??? I don't see any of these quote saying that. Could you show me where exactly and explain specifically in what way?

Originally Posted By: Bible
AV Dn 2:35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

AV Re 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

AV Re 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.


Originally Posted By: kland
Actually what I was talking about was that there's no transfer of kingdoms which relate to material things.

It took me a long time to figure out what you were trying to say. Next time kland, could you please be more explicite with me.

Are you alluding with the notion that "the Kingdom of God is in our heart?

There's two texts that people uses to give this misrepresented notion:

1)Mat 13:19 in Jesus' parable of the sower that symbolizes hearing the word of the kingdom that gets taking from your heart by various means.

2)Luk 17:20 was another one of the Pharisees malecious trick question to find fault in Jesus to excommunicate Him. So Jesus answer was to address what was in their heart. "Luke 17:20 Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; 21 nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There it is!’ For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst.” Some other translation has it "the kingdom of God is inside you" Context says that the translation of entos should be rendered "in your midst" meaning Jesus, the King of the Kingdom, was amoungst their midst and they(the pharisees) couldn't see it. John 3:3 says only those who are born again can see (or understand) the Kingdom of God because the Holy Spirit reveals Christ to them. The Pharisees couldn't see the kingdom because they maleciously preoccupied to find fault in Jesus than in trying to understand (or see) the kingdom.

Now these two texts does not really support that notion. It is true that the words of the Kingdom is in our heart and the King of the kingdom is among our midst; but that's only part of the kingdom.

A kingdom have 4 parts : Land, a King, Laws and subjects.

Since the Lord created the earth therefore by right of ownership He has the right to give land to who ever He wish, to direct all activity on the earth, and to dictate the terms (laws) by which man may live upon any part of the earth.

Sin and death invaded the Kingdom of God temporarily. The Bible tells us that this will be resolve and at the end His glory will cover the whole earth :

AV Num 14:21 But [as] truly [as] I live, all the earth shall be filled with the glory of the LORD. also (Hab 2:14 "For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.",

These two texts sums up the purpose of His Kingdom on earth...so that He may be glorified on earth as in heaven.

According to Daniel 2 and 7, the next kingdom will finally be the long waited for.... the Kingdom of God. And it will be on this earth. Notice that Daniel 2:35 quoted above says that the Kingdom of God will grow gradually untill it fills the whole earth. So the Kingdom of God will start small but will grow to a great mountain. Thus...there will be a lot of building up, evangelizing, organizing, establing the Lord's laws first on our own land until it covers the whole earth, etc... That will take a lot of funds, our talents, etc...
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/08/15 03:47 PM

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AV Dn 2:35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

What does the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold represent to you? To me it represents the kingdoms of this earth. They and all that are in it are no more.


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It took me a long time to figure out what you were trying to say. Next time kland, could you please be more explicite with me.

Are you alluding with the notion that "the Kingdom of God is in our heart?

There's two texts that people uses to give this misrepresented notion:
Didn't follow you there. What I was talking about is the 2nd coming. Nothing relevant to gold, silver, or money.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/09/15 10:21 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Quote:
AV Dn 2:35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

What does the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold represent to you? To me it represents the kingdoms of this earth. They and all that are in it are no more.

By far this does not say that the Lord's everlasting kingdom is not material. The statue being destroyed only show that He established and removed Kingdom on earth(Rom 13).

The Kingdoms of the statue only represented the kingdoms of this earth for a period of time between the Old Israel and the New Israel. Israel was also a Kingdom that the Lord had set up on earth before the status. He also destroyed that Kingdom. Rom 13 says all kingdoms are setup by God which means equally Israel, Babylon, the Roman Empire, the current Mystery Babylon Empire and the last everlasting Kingdom told in Dan 2 & 7 are all Kingdoms the Lord has/will setup. The statue was only a representation of Kingdoms between Israel (who failed to bless all the families in the world, thus their authority was taken from them) and the Kingdom given to the Saints of the Most High (who will succeed to bless everyone and subdue all things under God's feet).

How do you reconcile Daniel 2:35 and Rev 5:10 (and there's many other texts) that explictly says the Messianic Kingdom will be set up on earth? Doesn't these conflict with your notion that the next kingdom is not material and will be in heaven?

Originally Posted By: kland
Quote:
It took me a long time to figure out what you were trying to say. Next time kland, could you please be more explicite with me.

Are you alluding with the notion that "the Kingdom of God is in our heart?

There's two texts that people uses to give this misrepresented notion:
Didn't follow you there. What I was talking about is the 2nd coming. Nothing relevant to gold, silver, or money.

Our(SDAs) interpretation and understanding of the 2nd coming is conflicting with so many scriptures and the basic TYPE laid out in the law of the priesthood purpose and the entering of the promised LAND with the Sword(symbolise the Word of God see Rev 19:11-16) that we need to reconsider our position in prayers.

The 2nd coming is relevant with the coming new everlasting Kingdom establish on earth(with material things) where the Saints of the Most High will be priests and kings with Christ to minister and rule over the earth(Dan 2:35;Rev 5:10;Rev 20:6).
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/10/15 06:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
The statue being destroyed only show that He established and removed Kingdom on earth(Rom 13).
Well said!


Re 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

No conflict with SDA interpretation. Are you not familiar with it? Christ comes the second time, we go to heaven for 1000 years, the New Jerusalem descends, after the 1000 years, the wicked are raised and resume their rebellion, die eternally, the earth is renewed and we live and reign here for eternity.


2Ki 5:26 Then he said to him, "Did not my heart go with you when the man turned back from his chariot to meet you? Is it time to receive money and to receive clothing, olive groves and vineyards, sheep and oxen, male and female servants?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/20/15 02:42 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
The statue being destroyed only show that He established and removed Kingdom on earth(Rom 13).
Well said!


Re 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

No conflict with SDA interpretation. Are you not familiar with it? Christ comes the second time, we go to heaven for 1000 years, the New Jerusalem descends, after the 1000 years, the wicked are raised and resume their rebellion, die eternally, the earth is renewed and we live and reign here for eternity.

Yes I'm very familiar....as I said this interpretation conflict with scriptures. To stay focus on the underlined which is the point you raised in this discussion -- why need wealth or material things in the next Kingdom which you believe will be in heaven?(my paraphrase of your point) Thus you ask for me to provide scripture to show that the next kingdom is material. I did provide just a few direct quotation but there's much more.

Dn 2:35 talks specifically that the next Kingdom start as a stone (the very stone that struck the statue at its feet and destroyed the statue=Kingdoms). It(the stone=everlasting Kingdom given to the Saints of the Most High) will grow to become a great mountain and fill the whole EARTH.

Notice Dn 2:35 doesn't say heaven; but is specific to say the earth. There's no mention that there's an interlude of a 1000 years in heaven between the Beast Kingdoms and the Lord's Kingdom. Nor does Daniel 7 alludes to any interlude of time or place either. The way it is plainly written, is that as soon as the last Beast Kingdom is destroyed, then the earthly kingdom will be transfered to the Saints of the Most High and revelation says they will reign on EARTH(Rev 5:10; Rev 20:6).

We have already addressed this topic in another discussion about 4 years ago where no one could produce any scriptural proof that we will go to heaven during the Millennium. But if you have found any additional proof texts since then, bring them in the appropriate discussion entitled “The 2nd Coming, Judgment, & the 1000 Years”. I’ll be glad to study them with you. See Post #157110 on page 14 which has a summary of the texts discussed so far in the discussion.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/20/15 02:54 AM

My quick update : The news focus a lot on Greece. The Chinese stock market received the greatest blow from the Greek no payment (technically a default however the EU don't want to call it that way and calls it a "delayed payment"). Greece have no intention to pay it, nor can they. So the can is kicked a little further.

Below is what I think is a good summary and perspective of the current world financial news.

Important news updates
Jul 15, 2015
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2015/07-2015/important-news-updates/
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The Greek Austerity Deal

On Monday, July 13, the Greek Prime Minister finally caved in to pressure from the EU and agreed to the austerity measures that the people had voted 61-39% to reject just a week earlier.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/15/greece-debt-crisis-updates_n_7801124.html

However, this deal is not yet established. The only deal was for the Prime Minister to try to sell austerity to the Greek Parliament, which has the power to reject it. Then even if the Parliament accepts the austerity package, it would only begin the time for negotiations.

Meanwhile, it is likely that the Greek people themselves will “storm the Bastille” and will overthrow or bring down their own government before any final “deal” is reached. Many of the people are furious and feel betrayed. What they thought was going to be a democratic process has turned out to be just another dictatorship overruling the people.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/07/15/greek-government-suffers-defections-as-austerity-vote-looms/21209647/?icid=maing-grid7|legacy|dl2|sec1_lnk3&pLid=-888557476

Essentially, the Prime Minister has put off the problem until September. Or perhaps we should say that he has started throwing the hot potato around, and it is anyone’s guess where it will land.

Iran Nuclear Deal

The nuclear negotiations with Iran have been going on for a long time, and they finally reached an agreement on Tuesday, July 14. Now it is being presented to the US Congress, where they will have 60 days to examine it and vote on it.

Once again, the deal is nowhere near concluded, and it will continue to be debated until September.

July is like September, according to the old revelation. What we see in July tends to be repeated on a greater scale in September. It appears that it is happening again this year.

Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu has probably suffered the greatest defeat by this agreement with Iran. It shows that his influence with the US government is dwindling. He will have to put pressure on President Obama by lighting a fire under the Republican-led Congress and the Christian Zionist churches led by John Hagee (Hagar).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/14/benjamin-netanyahu-iran-deal_n_7792074.html

Little by little, the antichrists (as John would call them) are being overthrown, and the Edomite faction in world Jewry are losing power, both politically and economically. It will not be long before Edom will fall (See the book of Obadiah), and the rulers of Babylon will be replaced by the kings of the east. If you don’t understand those terms or if you don’t know who’s who in Bible prophecy, read my books.

The World Currencies

We are moving steadily and rather quickly now to the end game. It appears that one of the big changes will come in November when the IMF meets to decide policy regarding the basket of currencies and which currencies are “world reserve currencies.” It is widely expected that the Chinese renmimbi (or yuan) will be added to this list when they meet.

There are now seven world currencies, the most dominant being the US dollar and the euro. The British pound is another, and the Swiss franc as well.

By the way, this IMF meeting, some said, was probably to be held on October 20. This was, however, speculation, and it represented someone’s best guess. The IMF has since clarified that their meeting will be held in November.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/this-octo...rrency-markets/

If China’s currency is added to the list of world reserve currencies, expect very big changes to occur, with the US dollar and the euro to fall in value the most. The nations will not need as many dollars or euros to conduct world trade, so they will sell a lot of their reserves in order to make room for a sufficient quantity of yuan. It is doubtful if the US government manipulators will be able to absorb this shock and keep the dollar and the euro from dropping significantly.

It might be a safe bet to convert some of those currencies into tangible assets, such as gold and silver. Right now the price of metals are highly undervalued. The dollar and euro are facing a lot of pressure in the next few months, particularly from Greece, while at the same time the price of gold and silver are below the cost of mining them. If the prices don’t rise soon, some mines could be forced to shut down.
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/20/15 03:16 AM

My comment : Good points made relating to China increasing need to bring back the gold standard after their recent stock market crash. China said that there Swift system will be ready in September. I haven't posted the article, but the BRICKS Banks was opened and is now in operation just a few weeks ago. So I think that this fall feasts will be quite eventful as things are climaxing at the time of the last tetrad bloody moon.

Credit Deflation & Gold

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-19/credit-deflation-gold
07/19/2015

Submitted by Alasdair Macelod via GoldMoney.com,

There is a common view in financial markets that credit deflation is bad for gold prices, because gold nowadays is regarded as an asset to be sold in the scramble for cash when people are forced to pay down their debts.

When asked by Congressman Ron Paul his opinion on gold four years ago, Ben Bernanke replied it was not money, just another asset, appearing to confirm this view.

Doubtless Bernanke's view is shared by nearly all other central bankers in the advanced economies and by executives in the banks which have profited handsomely from monetary and credit inflation. But it is not shared by the majority of ordinary savers around the world who see it still as the ultimate store of value at a time of fiat currency inflation. For them, gold is the money to save, driven out of circulation by inferior currencies. We know this to be true throughout Asia where the bulk of the world's population lives; but even millions of ordinary Americans continue to accumulate silver eagles because they still recognise the monetary attributes of precious metals.

Crucially, the assumption in capital markets that gold is no longer money but just an asset or commodity has all but destroyed our understanding of its monetary relationships. Financial analysts fail to appreciate the difference in behaviour of sound money compared with that of unsound money during a contraction of bank credit. This can be empirically established by looking at the relationship between gold and the US dollar in the great depression, when bank credit contracted substantially after the Wall Street crash, and gold was then revalued upwards by 69% to $35 in 1935. The whole point of unsound money is that it can be devalued relative to sound money, as it was at that time, in order to stabilise prices that would otherwise fall; a policy option that is not available to central banks adhering to a gold standard.

In the days of a gold - or more correctly - a gold exchange standard, the collapse of excessive bank credit was always sudden, and vicious in proportion to the previous expansion. Since credit was expanded out of thin air by banks without underlying stocks of gold to cover it, inevitably slumping prices became associated with bank failures, and central banks were set up to insulate commercial banks from this brutal reality. Saving over-extended banks always requires the artificial lowering of interest rates and the expansion of the money quantity to restrain the currency's purchasing power from rising against declining commodities. Gold therefore remains a store of value for savers because it cannot be devalued in this way by a central bank.

This is becoming relevant again given that the escalating credit problems in China appear to be leading towards a 1929-style stock market crash, which if it follows the well-established playbook, will be followed by an economic slump. Today China is the largest commercial consumer of commodities, just as America was in the late 1920s, and her slowing economy is putting downward pressure on commodity prices, pushing up the purchasing power of money of the other major currencies. Put another way, falling energy and commodity prices in yuan are forcing deflation upon the rest of us. So even though investors in gold have seen its dollar price trade broadly sideways for the last three years, its purchasing power measured against most commodities has actually been rising. More recently, gold has also been an effective store of value against weaker currencies, notably the euro and yen.

Now that China's credit deflation is beginning to be exported to the US through lower commodity prices, there is a growing assumption that the dollar will strengthen further. This has encouraged hedge funds to sell gold futures to capture the dollar's rise. In terms of purchasing power it is certainly true that the currency has a deflationary element in it. However, if the Federal Reserve refused to expand the quantity of dollars in circulation, abandoning commercial banks to face the full force of a credit contraction, the purchasing power of the dollar would rise as if it were sound money. But the Fed was set up to do the exact opposite, so it has a clear duty to weaken its currency in this event. Therefore, when the balance of risk swings towards a credit contraction in the US, gold will rise against the dollar because the Fed through its monetary policy is certain to ensure it does so.

This will also surprise market traders who think that a continuing collapse in Chinese stock markets will force liquidation of gold holdings by the Chinese public. There is little doubt that distressed speculators will come under pressure to sell gold if they own it, but this argument ignores the certainty that during a credit contraction government-issued currencies always weaken against gold. So having acquired substantial quantities of gold for itself and having also ensured it is widely held by its public, the Chinese government is arguably in a more compelling position to encourage a gold revaluation as a means of stabilising her economy in a credit crisis than America was eighty years ago. It will be China's only option, and if the government doesn't go for it, China's middle classes certainly will.

We are already seeing the People's Bank of China engaging in reflationary policies to contain the stock market crash. This is a normal central bank response. Doubtless it will maintain the managed peg against the US dollar, partly because China is committed to building confidence in her own currency as a replacement for the dollar in international settlements, and partly because currency devaluation would be seen in the markets as a failure of economic policy. Furthermore, China can reasonably expect US monetary policy to do some of its reflationary work for it.

Therefore, instead of devaluing against the dollar, a rise in the yuan gold price is almost certain to occur. Of course, whether or not China revalues her gold reserves remains to be seen, but allowing the price to rise fits in with the logic of the relationship between sound and unsound money when a credit contraction threatens to become a serious issue.

This simple fact could override all the geostrategic considerations upon which China-watchers have tended to focus. A gold revaluation would be presented to the world as bound up with China's domestic economic problems, instead of an act aimed at undermining the dollar's reserve status: a solution that is less confrontational than outright disagreement with Western central banks over gold's role in the international monetary order.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/20/15 03:26 AM

My comment : This is interesting. Remember Pope Francis declared a Jubilee March 2015; now he calls for a Global Bankruptcy Process.

Pope Francis Calls for Global Bankruptcy Process

http://www.jubileeusa.org/press/press-it...cy-process.html

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE July 14, 2015

Washington, DC - Pope Francis called for an international bankruptcy process in a news conference as he left Latin America on Monday. According to the Associated Press, when asked about the Greek debt crisis, Francis stated, "if a company can declare bankruptcy, why can't a country do so and we go to the aid of others?" Francis offered further comments noting that too many countries are struggling with high debts and he suggested a United Nations bankruptcy proposal could be the solution.&#8206;

“Pope Francis knows that heavy debt loads cause poverty and inequality,” said Eric LeCompte, who consulted the Vatican on its position. LeCompte is the head of the religious development organization Jubilee USA Network. “The Pope's statement is a logical extension of the Catholic Church's strong support of debt relief for struggling countries."

Last year, LeCompte led a delegation of global Jubilee organizations to advise Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro Parolin on the need for a bankruptcy process to address inequality. The Catholic Church is a founder of Jubilee USA and supports its efforts to win debt relief for struggling countries.

In September of 2014, the United Nations General Assembly voted 124-11 to develop the bankruptcy process that Pope Francis referenced. LeCompte addressed the UN earlier this year on the creation of the process. This Fall, the United Nations is set to review progress on the proposal. Because International Monetary Fund (IMF) studies point to debt as a cause of inequality, the IMF is exploring aspects of a bankruptcy process based on an April 2013 paper. In addition to the debt crisis in Greece, nearly 50 countries&#8206; face worrying levels of debt distress according to World Bank statistics.

“A bankruptcy process is critical if we want less poverty and if we want to prevent financial crisis,” stated LeCompte, who consulted a recent United Nations Conference on Trade and Development road map that fed into the UN bankruptcy process. “Bankruptcy means less inequality and more global stability."

- See more at: http://www.jubileeusa.org/press/press-it...h.jPYPFoz7.dpuf
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/20/15 03:29 AM

BRICS Bank open for business

http://thebricspost.com/brics-bank-open-for-business/#.VaxBjKRViko
July 7, 2015, 4:21 pm

The long-heralded New Development Bank (NDB) or the BRICS Bank officially commenced business on Tuesday with the first meeting of its board of governors in Moscow.
The NDB with about $50 billion in capital to invest in public infrastructure will compete with institutions where the US has considerably more influence—organizations such as the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

The agreement was signed by the bloc’s five members — Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa — on July 15 last year during the sixth BRICS summit.

The board of governors appointed members of the BRICS board of directors and the management led by the president, Kundapur Vaman Kamath.

The board meet on Tuesday in Moscow also discussed rules regarding procedures and the bank’s five-year development strategy.

The bank will aim to “promote reform of global economic governance” China’s Finance Minister Lou Jiwei had said earlier.

The inaugural management team will take their posts in Shanghai in mid-July.

The NDB is expected to launch late this year or early next year.

The bank has an initial authorized capital of $100 billion.

Its initial subscribed capital of $50 billion will be equally shared among the founding members.

It will have a three-tier governance structure — a board of governors, a board of directors, a president and vice presidents.

As agreed by the five countries, the first chair of the board of governors has been nominated by Russia, the first chair of the board of directors by Brazil, and the first president by India.

An African regional center of the bank will be based in Johannesburg, South Africa.

“The bank’s establishment will be an important achievement for financial cooperation among BRICS members,” said China’s Finance Minister Lou Jiwei.

The Chinese government is providing $10 billion as prescribed for the initial subscribed capital.

The BRICS central bank governors on Tuesday also signed an operating agreement on the $100 billion monetary fund.

The BRICS Contingent Reserve Arrangement (CRA) will come into force on 30 July, Head of the Russian Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina said after the meet on Tuesday in Moscow.

“Several other documents will be adopted to regulate the operation of governing bodies – the Governing Council and the Standing Committee,” said Nabiullina.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/22/15 11:59 PM

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To stay focus on the underlined which is the point you raised in this discussion -- why need wealth or material things in the next Kingdom which you believe will be in heaven?(my paraphrase of your point) Thus you ask for me to provide scripture to show that the next kingdom is material. I did provide just a few direct quotation but there's much more.

So provide quotes showing we need wealth after the second coming whether in heaven or on the earth.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/23/15 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
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To stay focus on the underlined which is the point you raised in this discussion -- why need wealth or material things in the next Kingdom which you believe will be in heaven?(my paraphrase of your point) Thus you ask for me to provide scripture to show that the next kingdom is material. I did provide just a few direct quotation but there's much more.

So provide quotes showing we need wealth after the second coming whether in heaven or on the earth.

The Lord has shown it via the TYPE He established with the destruction of old Babylon. This is prophetic.

Right after the destruction of Babylon King Cyrus (One of the Kings of the East):
-made a decree that the people could return to their land(Ezra 7:13)
-provided some FUNDS for the construction of the temple (Ezra 5:13-17;Ezra 6:1-12;)
-provided some FUNDS for the restoration of the walls of the city of Jerusalem.(Neh 2:5-8;chap 3 & 4)

Below are the quotes that specificaly refers to the finances and material needed for the elders, Ezra, building of the Temple, building of the city walls, restoring the city ruins.

Originally Posted By: Bible
Fund Ezra and other leaders ask
Ezra 7:21 "And I, [even] I Artaxerxes the king, do make a decree to all the treasurers which [are] beyond the river, that whatsoever Ezra the priest, the scribe of the law of the God of heaven, shall require of you, it be done speedily,"

Fund the elders :
AV Ezr 6:8 Moreover I make a decree what ye shall do to the elders of these Jews for the building of this house of God: that of the king's goods, [even] of the tribute beyond the river, forthwith expenses be given unto these men, that they be not hindered. 9 And that which they have need of, both young bullocks, and rams, and lambs, for the burnt offerings of the God of heaven, wheat, salt, wine, and oil, according to the appointment of the priests which [are] at Jerusalem, let it be given them day by day without fail:

These expenses comes out of the King's(Cyrus) house :
AV Ezr 6:4 [With] three rows of great stones, and a row of new timber: and let the expenses be given out of the king's house:

A prayer of gratitude for the Lord to provide the Funds of the rebuilding of the Temple and Wall of the City via the King of Persia.
AV Ezr 9:9 For we [were] bondmen; yet our God hath not forsaken us in our bondage, but hath extended mercy unto us in the sight of the kings of Persia, to give us a reviving, to set up the house of our God, and to repair the desolations thereof, and to give us a wall in Judah and in Jerusalem.

This is a prophetic TYPE of what is to come when the Lord will bring down Mystery Babylon. Mystery Babylon is being destroyed by the Kings of the East today (China and Russia). And the TYPE shows that China and Russia will funds the building of the Kingdom of God.

Remember TYPES are represented in symbolic language. The temple is symbolic of the people(1Cor 6:19; 1Pet 2:5) and the wall of Jerusalem is symbolic of the Law(Lam 2:89). It is the people and the Law of God that will be restored throughout the land after the destruction of Babylon. That will require FUNDS and MATERIAL i)to evangelize and restore the people, and ii) to establish the Lord's laws back into our homes, our communities, and our government in our land.

It is not going to be done overnight. That's why the little stone(Kingdom of God) in Dan 2:35 grows gradually but will eventually become a great mountain and fill the whole earth. That may take at the max a 1000 years or much shorther...nobody knows the time it will take. There's lots of work ahead of us.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/23/15 11:50 PM

I think you made that up.

And therefore, anyone can use the word, "TYPE", as you use it to support every and anything they want.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/28/15 04:37 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
2Ki 5:26 Then he said to him, "Did not my heart go with you when the man turned back from his chariot to meet you? Is it time to receive money and to receive clothing, olive groves and vineyards, sheep and oxen, male and female servants?

Ya know, the other day I was squinting at the Bible and it dawned on me that we(SDAS) don't fully understand the TYPE of Gehazi. As he chased after silver and wealth, he became a leper.

So what will become of us today if we think the kingdom of God is made up of silver and gold and falsely try to get others to believe that way to?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/31/15 03:59 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
I think you made that up.

And therefore, anyone can use the word, "TYPE", as you use it to support every and anything they want.


Nope! Would you be able to recognize them? It's harder than understanding the spiritual meaning of the Feasts by learning the symbolic language of the Lord.

I think that Types are mostly (if not all) set up by biblical events. The flood, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, the exodus, Feasts, wondering in the wilderness, following the pillar, etc... We could name most of scriptures stories and find these are types.

These types are prophetic and often repeats as a partial prophetic fullfillment revealing additional information about the plan of salvation. These teaches us the Lord's mind and ways in how He applies His laws in these events; thus understanding His character. Basically we're learning our Father's business by watching what He does.

Rev 16:12 connects Old Babylon with Mystery Babylon. Thus this means the destruction of Old Babylon is a TYPE because the same scenario was repeated with the fall of Mystery Babylon. AV Re 16:12 . And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. It was via the Euphrate river that Cyrus and Darius -- the kings of the East conquered old Babylon. Today the King of the East are Russia and China. China and Russia are setting up New "Banks" to dry up the River(=curren-cies) which is the life force of Mystery Babylon today.

Right after the fall of Old Babylon another type was establish by the Lord having His Kingdom (Temple, Wall, and the city) being build via the account told by Ezra and Nehemiah as they left Babylon. This is supported by what Daniel saw that right after the destruction of the last Empire, the Kingdom of God was established. (Dan 2:35; Dan 7)

Time will tell.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/31/15 01:43 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: kland
2Ki 5:26 Then he said to him, "Did not my heart go with you when the man turned back from his chariot to meet you? Is it time to receive money and to receive clothing, olive groves and vineyards, sheep and oxen, male and female servants?

Ya know, the other day I was squinting at the Bible and it dawned on me that we(SDAS) don't fully understand the TYPE of Gehazi. As he chased after silver and wealth, he became a leper.


What I see from this TYPE is Elisha portrays the overcomer, the faithful servant who only does what the Lord told him to do -- nothing more nothing less. While in contrast, Gehazi portrays the unfaithful servant who seeks their own interest and not the Lord's.

Elisha "healed" Naaman because the Lord told him to. It was
not for a price. Gifts and donations are acceptable, but here it appears Elisha perceived or the Lord told him not to take the gift. Maybe it was to teach Naaman that healing is a free gift. I don't know the reason behind the refusal of the donation as I don't see it revealed.

However, it is clear that Gehazi had money as an idol that he would lie and deceive to get it. Gehazi symbolizes the unfaithful servant whereas Naaman symbolizes the unbelievers striked with lepersy[a slow death (=Mortality) that the skins decays and become petrude(=corrupt & unclean)]. The unbeliever (Naaman) accept to worship the Lord and gets cleans(=healing), whereas the unfaithful servants receives the fate of the unbeliever and ends up with the lepersy(condition of the unbeliever).

The end of this story reminds me of the parable of the unfaithful servant that will get cut off and have their reward with the unbelievers(lk 12:46) and the parable of the King's Son wedding Feast where there's a major change in the guests list.

Originally Posted By: kland
So what will become of us today if we think the kingdom of God is made up of silver and gold and falsely try to get others to believe that way to?

The story of the healing of Naaman is not about the building of the Kingdom of God. It's about healing and a gift that was not accepted by the prophet. And the unfaithful servant becoming a leper after deceiving everyone.

You need to choose Biblical texts or stories that is relevant to make a valid point.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/03/15 04:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
The story of the healing of Naaman is not about the building of the Kingdom of God.
Actually I was talking about Gehazi. Gehazi's greed of Silver. Not Naaman's healing.

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
I think you made that up.

And therefore, anyone can use the word, "TYPE", as you use it to support every and anything they want.


Nope! Would you be able to recognize them? It's harder than understanding the spiritual meaning of the Feasts by learning the symbolic language of the Lord.

Quote:

You need to choose Biblical texts or stories that is relevant to make a valid point.
Actually I did.

I think what you are saying is this:
Originally Posted By: kland
I think you made that up.

And therefore, anyone can use the word, "TYPE", as you use it to support every and anything they want.
Originally Posted By: Elle
Nope!
Not anyone. Just Elle.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/10/15 05:06 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
The story of the healing of Naaman is not about the building of the Kingdom of God.
Actually I was talking about Gehazi. Gehazi's greed of Silver. Not Naaman's healing.

The main story is about Naaman's healing not Gehazi's greed. Gehazi received Naaman's leperdsy due to his unfaithfulness manifested in greed. Elisha was the faithful servant deprived of any corruptness including greed.

This story does not address money or material things with the building of the kingdom of God as it does in the story of the Israelites in the desert, Solomon, Ezra, Nehemia, and Ezekiel all addressing the building of the temple and/or the city of Jerusalem. All needed funds and material things. There's no mentioned of the people being greedy just because they had and brought funds and material things to build the temple. That's ridiculous kland.

The unfaithful servant with greed or other corruptness traits is found all over the Bible. It is the trait of Adam, Cain, Abram, Jacob, Old Israel, King Saul, the early Church, the RCC, and still lingers in abundantly in all Churches today. However, the Lord promised us that He will put His laws in our hearts and finish the work He started. But 'till HIs work is finish, well we will see some corruptness still remaining in us.

Quote:

kland:I think you made that up.

And therefore, anyone can use the word, "TYPE", as you use it to support every and anything they want.

Elle: Nope! Would you be able to recognize them? It's harder than understanding the spiritual meaning of the Feasts by learning the symbolic language of the Lord.
...

You need to choose Biblical texts or stories that is relevant to make a valid point.

Kland : Actually I did.

I don't recall seeing any of them yet. Please show them to me.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/10/15 05:27 PM

Sorry Bloomberg, Someone DID Notice That China Is Dumping A Record Amount Of Bonds

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-10...rd-amount-bonds

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Earlier today, Bloomberg TV blasted an amusing snippet from an article that was based on some deep revelations about what is happening in the bond market:

Here is the relevant section for the highlight-challenged:

It says: "China sells $180 billion of US Treasuries but no one notices."

BBG TV references the following Bloomberg article "China Slashes U.S. Debt Stake by $180 Billion, Bonds Shrug":

Quote:
China was a particularly voracious participant, boosting its holdings from less than $350 billion as its economy boomed and the nation bought dollars to keep the yuan from soaring.

Now, the Asian nation is stepping back as it raises money to support flagging growth and a crumbling stock market, and allows its currency to trade more freely. The latest update of Treasury data and estimates by strategists suggest that China controls $1.47 trillion of Treasuries. That includes about $200 billion held through Belgium, which Nomura Holdings Inc. says is home to Chinese custodial accounts.

All of this is quite ironic considering the following ZH headlines:

May 18: Revealing The Identity Of The Mystery "Belgian" Buyer Of US Treasurys
June 15: China Dumps Record $120 Billion In US Treasurys In Two Month Via Belgium
July 17: China Dumps Record $143 Billion In US Treasurys In Three Months Via Belgium
and of course:

July 22: "China's Record Dumping Of US Treasuries Leaves Goldman Speechless" ...
... an article that got over 400,000 hits, half of which originated on Wall Street (you are wellcome sellside strategists).
So yes, someone noticed.

Then again, Bloomberg is also pointing out something else: the fact that all those hollow chatterboxes who have been calling for the "Great Rotation" (coughbankofamericacough) for the past 3 years have been so wrong and on so many occasions, they may well have destroyed all of their clients who listened to the call.

Bloomberg goes on to note that to "get a sense of how robust demand is for U.S. Treasuries, consider that China has reduced its holdings by about $180 billion and the market barely reacted."

Here is the irony: the market was well-aware of China's liquidation - which goes hand in hand with China's record plunge in reserves and capital outflow, in fact when you hear "China capital outflow", thing dumping of US treasury paper. What Bloomberg however was not aware of, is that there is no market, and the only marginal buyers and sellers of bonds in what was once the world's "deepest" market, has become a centrally-planned farce (incidentally, the reason there is no liquidity is because while the Fed owns some 33% of all 10Year equivalents, the other central banks own another 10-15% - a topic we expect Bloomberg will " notice"some time in 2016).

That said, Bloomberg is correct: as China is dumping, others - mostly banks and pension funds - are scooping up what little "high quality collateral" they can find, and in fact are hoping they can trade some massively overvalued stocks to retail investors (because "buy buy buy" as we "sell sell sell") in exchange for their bonds. After all, in a world in which Fed reserves have zero collateral velocity, Trasurys have never been more valuable. To wit, after Bloomberg finally figured out that China is massively dumping Treasurys, it adds that "other sources of demand are filling the void. Regulations designed to prevent another financial crisis have caused banks and similar firms to stockpile highly rated assets. Also, mutual funds have been scooping up government debt, flush with cash from savers who are wary of stocks and want an alternative to bank deposits that pay almost nothing. It all adds up to a market in fine fettle as the Federal Reserve moves closer to raising interest rates as soon as next month.

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“China may be stepping away, but there is such a deep and broad buyer base for Treasuries, particularly when you have times of uncertainty,” Brandon Swensen, the co-head of U.S. fixed-income at RBC Global Asset Management, which oversees $35 billion, said from Minneapolis.
Bloomberg is also correct that for the time being, China's supply is being easily absorbed, and that this is not the first time China has spooked the quote-unquote market:

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The Treasury market overcame turbulence sparked by China in early 2009, just as the U.S. was ramping up borrowing and as the Fed was about to expand the supply of dollars as part of its stimulus efforts. At that time, then Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao said his country was “worried” about its investment in U.S. debt and wanted assurances the value of its holdings would be protected.

China’s pullback from U.S. securities is “far less ominous for the prospects for the Treasury market than some sensationalists might think,” said Ian Lyngen, a government bond strategist at CRT Capital Group LLC in Stamford, Connecticut. “It’s the macro and policy stories that give you the big overall level of rates, it’s not flows.” U.S. commercial banks have increased their stakes in Treasuries and debt from federal agencies by almost $300 billion since March 2014 to over $2.1 trillion, Fed data show.
As we have also shown in recent months, despite Chinese and Japanese selling, when it comes to primary bond auctions, Indirect, or central bank interest, especially in benchmark paper has never been higher:

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The category of buyers at Treasury auctions classified as indirect bidders, which include foreign investors and mutual funds, won a record 55 percent of the $1.2 trillion of notes and bonds sold this year, up from 43 percent in 2014.
But where things get most amusing is when one considers the ever changing narrative when it comes to Treasurys: after all it was Bloomberg, as well as every other mainstream media outlet, screaming there is a bubble in bonds, get out, buy stocks, and so on, because the economy is better and deflation is going away. And then what happened? The 2s30s curve crashed, and even as the short end is soaring on concerns of a transitory rate hike, the long end has plunged and is rapidly approaching a recessionary inversion. How convenient it is then for Bloomberg to U-turn its goalseeked narrative and to remind us that, actually, things are not all that good, and there wil be much demand for Chinese paper:

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Unlike “China’s central bank, global investors want to buy,” said Toshifumi Sugimoto, the Tokyo-based chief investment officer at Capital Asset Management Co., which has $300 million in assets. “Investors like pension funds or life insurance companies or institutional investors, they want a higher yield with a high rating. U.S. Treasuries are very attractive now.”
But... But... Great Rotation... Economic Recovery.

Quote:
That depth of demand may stand the market in good stead as the Fed moves closer to raising interest rates. “I don’t see an egregious back-up” in yields happening, said Gemma Wright-Casparius, who manages about $50 billion in Treasuries at Valley Forge, Pennsylvania-based Vanguard Group Inc. “It’s a deep liquid market, it’s a safe haven and it’s a high-yielding asset right now.”
Or, precisely what we said in the summer of 2013 "but no one noticed".
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/10/15 11:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
The story of the healing of Naaman is not about the building of the Kingdom of God.
Actually I was talking about Gehazi. Gehazi's greed of Silver. Not Naaman's healing.

The main story is about Naaman's healing not Gehazi's greed. Gehazi received Naaman's leperdsy due to his unfaithfulness manifested in greed. Elisha was the faithful servant deprived of any corruptness including greed.

This story does not address money or material things with the building of the kingdom of God as it does in the story of the Israelites in the desert, Solomon, Ezra, Nehemia, and Ezekiel all addressing the building of the temple and/or the city of Jerusalem. All needed funds and material things. There's no mentioned of the people being greedy just because they had and brought funds and material things to build the temple. That's ridiculous kland.

Why are you talking about this? This is the building the the temple, past temple. I'm talking about the second coming. Nothing relevant to gold, silver, or money. Show me texts which say we need wealth. I showed you text showing TYPE showing you will get disease.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/11/15 03:18 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Why are you talking about this? This is the building the the temple, past temple.

These past temple points to the futur temple. The Lord talks in symbolic language -- "dark speeches"== in riddles(Num 12:8). In the law and OT all revolved around the temple which is symbolic for OUR BODY(the spiritual meaning it's pointing to). What was spoken about the temple in the past was pointing to a greater fulfillment in the futur in our body.

This means all the language in the Law regarding the Temple, the building of the Solomon Temple, the buiding of the 2nd Temple by Ezra, and the prophetic Temple talked by Ezekiel -- all point to the same thing -- what Jesus and His body of Priests will do in OUR BODY temple and world (people) body temple.

In the fulfillment of these there's NO building of a 3rd PHYSICAL TEMPLE. The fulfillment of these will be the building (restoration) of the SPIRITUAL TEMPLE which is our body(the believers like Gehazi that aren't overcomers) and the body of the unbelievers like Namaan represented. Our body is where the Lord presence dwell. It is these body-Temples that needs real cleanings and restoration.

Originally Posted By: kland
I'm talking about the second coming.

I am also. We have different understanding of the 2nd coming. You think that we will all go to heaven for 1000 years -- who will you rule during that time if everyone else is dead? This interpretation is extremely faulty and is not in harmony with all the scriptures I've quoted.

The Bible says the second coming of Christ is when He and His body of Priests will rule the earth(Rev 5:10; Dn 2:35) during the millenium(Rev 20:6). I have quoted many other texts showing this in several other discussions including this one.

Originally Posted By: kland
Nothing relevant to gold, silver, or money. Show me texts which say we need wealth. I showed you text showing TYPE showing you will get disease.

The story of the healing of Naaman was not relevant to your point and it is by far any proof of your stand. You have shown ZERO texts to support your position. I have shown you enough texts and any other that I will show, you will refute them as you have with others.

That's ok kland. So let's agree to disagree. Time will tell the truth. Let's be still and watch what the Lord will do to fulfill His Word. We will all learn what is His true interpretation will be.

If my understanding is correct....when Mystery Babylon banking system will be replace just prior or at Jesus 2nd coming and if you are one of those that has lost all their paper possession; that's ok because others that were prepare will come to make sure you lack of nothing. Also you or anyone willing, will be able to help and assist the overcomers' ministry in building the Kingdom of God on earth. There will be plenty of work ahead.
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/11/15 06:43 PM

Elle is presenting views that are totally against Adventism -- I don't think she can deny that point as she has repeatedly told us our views are "unbiblical" "shoddy" etc. etc. and other terms that show her rejection of Adventist beliefs.

However, I see her teachings coming from sources that I fear are destructive sources --

"We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. Ephesians 6:12

I am truly sorry that she has immersed herself in these sources, but it is plain that showing her the error of it only makes her dig deeper into it. That's why it's dangerous to spend a lot of time those sources -- spiritualist ideas have a controlling power.

It is true that the world is being prepared for a new global reconstruction. That part is true.
And Elle has researched some interesting information as to what is going on in the world -- but it's the supposed outcome of all this that is faulty.

And the whole world (almost) will fall for it. Yes, there will be a "religious" solution offered.
But it is not our Savior, Jesus Christ, who will come to set up this "kingdom on earth".

REV. 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

The whole world will be worshipping THE DRAGON which is that serpent Satan that beguiled the world in the first place. He is preparing the world for the "coming masters".

Anyone who has been exposed to the Christianized NEW AGE can see the message that is being taught here --

It is SPIRITUALISM --

The Bible describes how Satan (Lucifer) was thrown out of heaven and came down to earth. (Rev. 12) In Genesis the serpent convinced Eve to eat from the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, promising that she would become as God. Through this successful corrupting of humanity, Lucifer thereby gained the dominion over this world.
When Jesus came to this earth 2000 years ago, He spent forty days in the wilderness, and Satan came and offered Him the kingdoms of the world: "All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for this is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine," (Luke 4:6-7). Satan was not making a bogus proposal, for all the kingdoms of the world had indeed been "delivered unto him," when Adam gave over the dominion of the earth to the serpent.
Jesus later referred to Satan as "the prince of this world" in John 12:31 and 14:30, and Paul referred to him as "the god of this world" in 2 Corinthians 4, also describing the hierarchy of fallen angels as "the rulers," "the authorities" and "the powers of this dark world" (Ephesians 6:12).


Satan KNOWS that his time is short and it is his fiendish plan and purpose to fully achieve his aim at all cost, even though he knows Christ has opened wide the door of salvation for anyone who believes to escape out of satan's kingdom into the glorious heavenly kingdom.

Satan's aim is STILL
"14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Isaiah 14


He lost out in heaven, but he is determined to be recognized as god on this earth. Not as "the evil one", but as the glorious one. The one who, with his hierarchy of fallen angels will lead the world into the next level of their evolutionary attainment to be more than human, into a kingdom he promises will be loving and peaceful and harmonious (but it will be terrible)

Satan is the one that teaches that the Creator God is responsible for the evil in this world. And that he "Lucifer is the LOGOS in his highest, and the "Adversary" in his lowest aspect"

He is inspiration behind a host of movements, whether Kabbalistic Jews, Christianized New Age, or any "worldly" theory of a grand "new age" the present earth as a whole is moving towards.

In the section on "Religious Organizations in the New Age" Alice Bailey who channeled messages from a fallen angel declares
Originally Posted By: Bailey
Eventually, there will appear the church universal...the prime work of the church is to teach, and teach ceaselessly, preserving the outer appearance in order to reach the many who are accustomed to church usages, ...teachers must be trained, Bible knowledge must be spread, the sacraments must be mystically interpreted and the power of the church to heal must be demonstrated...
The three main channels through which the preparation for the new age is going on might be regarded as THE CHURCH, the MASONIC FRATERNITY and the EDUCATIONAL field... in all of these three movements, disciples of the Great Ones are to be found and they are steadily gathering momentum and will before long enter upon their designated work.

The Masonic Movement ...will meet the need of those who can, and should, wield power. It is the custodian of the law; it is the home of the mysteries and the seat of initiation...It holds in its symbolism the ritual of deity, and the way of salvation. It is a far more occult organization than can be realized, and is intended to be the training school for the advanced occultists. In its ceremonies lies hid the wielding of the forces connected with the growth and life of the kingdoms of nature and the unfoldment of the divine aspects in man....
The Church finds its mission in the helping of the devotee, in aiding the great public which is innately religious and of good will. It hides in its heart those who vibrate to the great love ray, and second ray of love-wisdom. The Christ works through it and by its means seeks to contact the vast Christian public It is the leaven in His hands to leaven the whole lump, and being in a form comprehended by the people, it can touch the great masses of seeking should. By means of the educational work of the world, the Great Lord seeks to reach those of the intelligent public who cannot be reached by means of ceremonial and symbolism as in Masonry or by religious means as in the church.


When Bailey refers to the Lord of the World, she is merely referring to a cleverly repackaged Satan.
And Alice Bailey isn't the only one promoting this restructured world under the direction of supernatural "masters" -- there are great many others who in various forms promote the same thing. There is plenty of literature out there if one wants to dig into it WHICH I DO NOT RECOMMEND.

Part of it is the Master Jesus will use the Roman Catholic Church to lead Christianity into this kingdom.

The devil KNOWS scripture and he will use it to his advantage, twisting and stacking it to deceive the people.
Notice he wants "bible knowledge" to be spread, AFTER the teachers are "trained" to interpret it his way.

This "new global restructure" will APPEAR to be the answer to the world's problems, but the whole BUILDING of it and trying to implement it will destroy the world and ruthlessly destroy all opposition to it.



Why am I sharing this?

Because I believe it is a matter of eternal life or death.


Just before the REAL Jesus appears--

Revelation 13
THE deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
...And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
If any man have an ear, let him hear.


After fully showing this supposedly new "love and peace" kingdom is really the most terrible of tyranny, destruction, and desolation, it will suffer utter destruction as the true God comes to delivery His faithful.

When we see God's delivered saints -- they are seen IN HEAVEN, before God's throne. The true recreated (not just revamped) globe takes place AFTER the millennium.

Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/11/15 07:45 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: kland
2Ki 5:26 Then he said to him, "Did not my heart go with you when the man turned back from his chariot to meet you? Is it time to receive money and to receive clothing, olive groves and vineyards, sheep and oxen, male and female servants?

Ya know, the other day I was squinting at the Bible and it dawned on me that we(SDAS) don't fully understand the TYPE of Gehazi. As he chased after silver and wealth, he became a leper.

So what will become of us today if we think the kingdom of God is made up of silver and gold and falsely try to get others to believe that way to?


The type of the end of spiritual empire builders both human and supernatural in seeking the utopic kingdom in this present world is seen in the fall of ancient Jerusalem.

Quote:
Ezekiel 7:15 The sword is without, and the pestilence and the famine within: he that is in the field shall die with the sword; and he that is in the city, famine and pestilence shall devour him.
7:16 But they that escape of them shall escape, and shall be on the mountains like doves of the valleys, all of them mourning, every one for his iniquity.
7:17 All hands shall be feeble, and all knees shall be weak as water.
7:18 They shall also gird themselves with sackcloth, and horror shall cover them; and shame shall be upon all faces, and baldness upon all their heads.
7:19 They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumbling block of their iniquity.


That is the picture of things in the endtime.
True there will be a "restructuring" and a spiritual attempt to build God's kingdom on earth, but it will be the wrong super-natural power giving the appearance that a Christ has come -- and it will result in absolute desolation.
God's true people will be hiding in the mountains, also pleading with God, and waiting for the REAL Christ to come and deliver them, taking them to His Father's house.
Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/12/15 02:09 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Ya know, the other day I was squinting at the Bible and it dawned on me that we(SDAS) don't fully understand the TYPE of Gehazi. As he chased after silver and wealth, he became a leper.

So what will become of us today if we think the kingdom of God is made up of silver and gold and falsely try to get others to believe that way to?

From the newly released unpublished manuscripts: One sinner in the camp of Israel anciently did much harm. All Israel suffered the wrath of God on account of Achan, who coveted and hid a golden wedge and a Babylonish garment. {Ms2-1860 1.17}
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/13/15 06:23 PM

Sorry, but I won't have time to reply to the posts for a week or so. I'll get back to these when time will be available.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/13/15 06:31 PM

This is an interesting interview showing what to expect when the Babylonian Empire collapse, different ways to do transactions, do business, different "wealth" definition, trading, etc... Very practical outlook.

Keiser Report: Collapsing Empires (Summer Solutions)

"In this summer solutions episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert are joined by Charles Hugh Smith of OfTwoMinds.com about the solution to the problems created by collapsing empire and failing central banks. In a world awash with unpayable debts, how does the individual survive and flourish?"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnafiyK3JMI&feature=youtu.be
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/14/15 12:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
who will you rule during that time if everyone else is dead?
Elle, what does it mean to you to rule over others?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/15/15 01:14 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
who will you rule during that time if everyone else is dead?
Elle, what does it mean to you to rule over others?

You must mean what the scripture means when it says “to rule over others?”

I never did a word study on “rule” or related terms like “dominion”, “authority”, “government” – something I should do before answering but I just don’t have time right now.

To bring things into perspective, we know it is the Lord that chooses who rules and sets up government on the earth (Rom 13). The Lord can do that because He created the earth and all that is in it. Plus we know He is the King of Kings which means He has an interest to set up His Kingdom on earth and have His dominion be govern with His Laws.

No Man, given some level of authority, is at liberty to set up his own laws and rule as he wants. If any man does that, well he falls into the definition of a USURPER or an “anti-christ” and will have to answer for it to the Judge. There’s many antichrists that rule on the earth.

Also we know that when He created the earth and made Adam ruler of the earth; He told Him to subdue all things. We know the story… Adam fell and did not succeed to subdue everything on earth nor put everything under the Father’s feet. The first Adam failed, but the second Adam will succeed as scripture tells us so.

Besides Adam’s failure, all others failed too : the Israelites, King Saul, the nation of Judah, the early Church, the RCC, and all the denominations today…. All has failed to subdue the world under the Father’s feet.

We know Jesus was born of Judah and took the scepter; yet we did not see the Christians succeeding to subdued all things since His ascension to heaven. Well it is evident by what has happened, that it was not TIME. At Jesus 2nd coming, that’s when we see scriptures pointing to the TIME of RULING(Rev 19, Joshua entering Canaan, etc). The 2nd coming is marked with judgment and transferring earth’s dominion to the Saints of the Most High (Dan 2 & 7) and they will rule with Jesus. So that is the background of history and what scriptures says.

Now, coming to your question… what does scripture means when it says “to rule over others?

We all know about how we should NOT RULE via history and having bad leadership over us. The Saints of the Most High won’t be like any of them and won't fail like they did. They won't rule with greed like Gehazi, or rule the way they feel like King Saul who changed Gods laws when it didn’t fit what he wanted to do, or rule like any of the 4 Beasts Empire that the vast history records, or any other individuals (husbands, employers, governers, religious leaders, etc…) that rule over others. We all know and tasted “BAD RULERSHIP”.

The Saints of the Most High will be the undefiled priests talked in Ezekiel 44 & 45 and will rule like Christ. According to the TYPE given in the Law and what is prophecied in Eze 42-48, the undefiled priests will intercedes for the people and nations and teach them the laws (ways) of the Lord.

So now the real question is “how do you see Christ ruling the nations at His 2nd coming?”
AV Re 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 And he shall rule[poimaino] them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.


The Greek word poimaino means “to tend as a shepherd”. It comes from the word “poimen” that means shepherd. This is how I see the Saints of the Most High and Christ ruling over the nations.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/18/15 04:54 PM

My comment : A good article...worth reading it at source where you can clik on the hyperlinks.

It appears the global economic crash is on speed. Remember, the old needs to be destroyed for the new one to come.

This fall will be epic... We will all see the Lord's glorious work!

23 Nations Around The World Where Stock Market Crashes Are Already Happening

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-18...ready-happening

08/18/2015

by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,

You can stop waiting for a global financial crisis to happen. The truth is that one is happening right now. All over the world, stock markets are already crashing. Most of these stock market crashes are occurring in nations that are known as “emerging markets”. In recent years, developing countries in Asia, South America and Africa loaded up on lots of cheap loans that were denominated in U.S. dollars. But now that the U.S. dollar has been surging, those borrowers are finding that it takes much more of their own local currencies to service those loans. At the same time, prices are crashing for many of the commodities that those countries export. The exact same kind of double whammy caused the Latin American debt crisis of the 1980s and the Asian financial crisis of the 1990s.

As you read this article, almost every single stock market in the world is down significantly from a record high that was set either earlier this year or late in 2014. But even though stocks have been sliding in the western world, they haven’t completely collapsed just yet.

In much of the developing world, it is a very different story. Emerging market currencies are crashing hard, recessions are starting, and equity prices are getting absolutely hammered.

Posted below is a list that I put together of 23 nations around the world where stock market crashes are already happening. To see the stock market chart for each country, just click the link…

1. Malaysia

2. Brazil

3. Egypt

4. China

5. Indonesia

6. South Korea

7. Turkey

8. Chile

9. Colombia

10. Peru

11. Bulgaria

12. Greece

13. Poland

14. Serbia

15. Slovenia

16. Ukraine

17. Ghana

18. Kenya

19. Morocco

20. Nigeria

21. Singapore

22. Taiwan

23. Thailand

Of course this is just the beginning. The western world is going to feel this kind of pain as well very soon. I want to share with you an excerpt from an article that just appeared in the Telegraph entitled “Doomsday clock for global market crash strikes one minute to midnight as central banks lose control“. You see, the Telegraph is not just one of the most important newspapers in the UK – it is truly one of the most important newspapers in the entire world. When it speaks on financial matters, millions of people listen very carefully. So for the Telegraph to declare that the countdown to a “global market crash” is “one minute to midnight” is a very, very big deal…

Quote:
When the banking crisis crippled global markets seven years ago, central bankers stepped in as lenders of last resort. Profligate private-sector loans were moved on to the public-sector balance sheet and vast money-printing gave the global economy room to heal.

Time is now rapidly running out. From China to Brazil, the central banks have lost control and at the same time the global economy is grinding to a halt. It is only a matter of time before stock markets collapse under the weight of their lofty expectations and record valuations.
I encourage you to read the rest of that excellent article right here. It contains lots of charts and graphs, and it discusses many of the exact same things that I have been hammering on for months.

When one of the newspapers of record for the entire planet starts sounding exactly like The Economic Collapse Blog, then you know that it is late in the game.

Others are sounding the alarm about an imminent global financial crash as well. For example, just consider what Egon von Greyerz recently told King World News…

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Eric, I fear that this coming September – October all hell will break loose in the world economy and markets. A lot of factors point to that, both fundamental and technical indicators and this indicates that we could have a number of shocks this autumn.

Sadly, most investors will hold stocks, bonds and property and will see any decline in value as an opportunity. It will be a long time and a very big fall before they realize that the system will not help them this time because the central bankers have run out of ammunition to save the global financial system one more time. Yes, we will see more massive money printing, but it will just make things worse. And at some stage, which could be quite soon, real fear will set in, a fear of a magnitude the world has not experienced before.

Hmm – there is another example of someone talking about September. It is funny how often that month keeps coming up.

And of course most of the major stock market crashes in U.S. history have been in the fall. Just go back and take a look at what happened in 1929, 1987, 2001 and 2008.

The “smart money” has been pulling their money out of stocks for quite a while now, and at this point a lot of others have hopped on the bandwagon. The following comes from CNBC…

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The flight of investor money from U.S. stocks has turned into a stampede.
In fact, the $78.7 billion leaving domestic equity-focused funds has been worse in 2015 than it was even during the financial crisis years, when the S&P 500 tumbled some 60 percent, according to data released Friday by Morningstar. The total is the highest since 1993.

Domestic equity funds surrendered $20.4 billion in July alone and have seen $158.6 billion in redemptions over the past 12 months. Even a strong flow of money into passively managed exchange-traded funds has been unable to offset the stream to the exit among retail investors, who generally focus more on mutual funds than ETFs.


A global financial crisis has already begun.

So those that were claiming that one would not happen in 2015 are already wrong.

Over the coming months we will find out how bad it will ultimately be.

Sometimes I get criticized for talking about these things. There are a few people out there that don’t like all of the “doom and gloom” that I discuss on my website. Apparently it is a bad thing to talk about the things that really matter and we should all just be “keeping up with the Kardashians” instead.

I consider myself just to be another watchman on the wall. From our spots on the wall, watchmen such as myself all over the nation are sounding the alarm about what we clearly see coming.

If we saw what was coming and we did not warn the people, their blood would be on our hands. But if we do warn the people, then we have done our duty.

Every day I just do the best that I can with what I have been given. And there are many others just like me that are doing exactly the same thing.

Those that do not like the warning message are going to feel really stupid when things start falling apart all around them and they finally realize how wrong they truly were.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/18/15 11:10 PM

While at Bro. Harris' I had an interview with a sister who professed to be looking for Christ's coming, who wore gold. We spoke of the express declaration of scripture against it. But she referred to where Solomon was commanded to beautify the temple, and that the streets of the city of God were pure gold. And said if we could improve our appearance by wearing gold, so as to have influence in the world, it was right. I replied that we were poor fallen mortals; and instead of decorating these bodies because Solomon's temple was gloriously adorned, we should remember our fallen condition, and that it cost the sufferings and death of the Son of God to redeem us. This should cause in us self-abasement. Jesus is our pattern. If he would lay aside his humiliation and sufferings, and cry, "If any man will come after me, let him please himself, and enjoy the world, and he shall be my disciple," the multitude would believe, and follow him. But Jesus will come to us in no other character than the meek, crucified One. If we would be with him in heaven, we must be like him on earth. The world will claim its own, and whoever will overcome, must leave what belongs to it. {2SG 100.1}


Jesus has gone to prepare mansions for those who are waiting and watching for his appearing. There they will meet the pure angels and the redeemed host, and will join their songs of praise and triumph. There the Saviour's love surrounds his people, and the city of God is irradiated with the light of his countenance,--a city whose walls, great and high, are garnished with all manner of precious stones, whose gates are pearls, and whose streets are pure gold, as it were transparent glass. "There shall in no wise enter into it anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie; but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life." The shadows of night never fall on that city; it has no need of the sun, neither of the moon; its inhabitants rejoice in the undimmed glory of the Lamb of God. {RH, June 3, 1880 par. 19}


Re 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.


Re 21:21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.

The streets are paved with gold.

What does that mean to you Elle, the streets being paved with gold?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/20/15 04:00 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
The streets are paved with gold.

What does that mean to you Elle, the streets being paved with gold?

Don't have time right now and then I have other posts to answer also before. Be a gentleman and tell me first what you believe this means to you. If you are about to give a "literal" interpretation....then take the time to read Number 12:1-9.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/26/15 09:59 AM

My comment : China is continuing to dump US treasury bonds but at a much higher pace since 2 weeks. They have dumped more in the past 2 weeks(106 billion) than the total dump since the beginning of the 2015 year(107 billion). At this pace the article says in 18 weeks they can sell everything remaining.

China was holding the US debt with these bonds. It is clear that China is now getting rid of it. This is bound to add momemtum to the financial collapse.

Devaluation Stunner: China Has Dumped $100 Billion In Treasurys In The Past Two Weeks
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-25...-past-two-weeks

08/25/2015
Quote:
On August 11, China devalued its currency, and in the subsequent 3 days the onshore Yuan, the CNY, tumbled by some 4% against the dollar. Then, as if by magic, the CNY stabilized when China started intervening massively, only this time not through the fixing, but in the actual FX market.

This means that while China has previously been dumping reserves as a matter of FX policy, after August 11 it was intervening directly in the FX market, with the intervention said to really pick up after the FOMC Minutes on August 19, the same day the market finally topped out, and has tumbled into a correction since then. The result was the same: massive FX reserve liquidations to defend the currency one way or the other.

And yet something curious emerges when comparing the traditionally tight, and inverse, relationship between the S&P and the Treausry long-end: the drop in yields has not been anywhere near as profound as the tumble in stocks. In fact, the 30 Year is wider now than where it was the day China announced the Yuan devaluation.
Why is that?

We hinted at the answer on two occasions earlier (here and here) and yet the point is so critical, and was missed by virtually all readers, that it deserves to be repeated once again: as part of China's devaluation and subsequent attempts to contain said devaluation, it has been purging foreign reserves at an epic pace. Said otherwise, China has sold an epic amount of Treasurys in the past two weeks.

How epic? We turn it over to SocGen once again:

Quote:
The PBoC cut the RRR for all banks by 50bp and offered additional reductions for leasing companies (300bp) and rural banks (50bp). All these will take effect as of 6 September, and the total amount of liquidity injected will be close to CNY700bn, or $106bn based on today's onshore exchange rate. In perspective, the PBoC may have sold more official FX reserves than this amount since the currency regime change on 11 August.
There you have it: in the past two weeks alone China has sold a gargantuan $106 (or more) billion in US paper just as a result of the change in the currency regime!

But wait, there's more: recall that one months ago we posted that "China's Record Dumping Of US Treasuries Leaves Goldman Speechless" in which we reported that China has sold some $107 billion in Treasurys since the start of 2015.

When we did that article, we too were quite shocked at that number. However, we - just like Goldman - are absolutely speechless to find out that China has sold as much in Treasurys in the past 2 weeks, over $100 billion, as it has sold in the entire first half of the year!

In retrospect, it is absolutely amazing that the 10 and 30 Year Bonds have cratered considering the amount of concentrated selling by China.

But the bigger question is how much more does China have left to sell, if this pace of outflows continues. Here is SocGen again:

Quote:
From an operational perspective, China's FX reserves are estimated to be two-thirds made up of relatively liquid assets. According to TIC data, China held $1,271bn US treasuries end-June 2015, but treasury bills and notes accounted for only $3.1bn. The currency composition is said to be similar to the IMF's COFER data: 2/3 USD, 1/5 EUR and 5% each of GBP and JPY. Given that EUR and JPY depreciation contributed the most to the RMB's NEER appreciation in the past year, it is plausible that
the PBoC may not limit its intervention to selling only USD-denominated assets.

* * *

China's FX reserves are still 134% of the recommended level, or in other words, around $900bn (1/4 of total) and can be used for currency intervention without severely impacting China's external position.
Should the current pace of liquidity outflows continue, and require the dumping of $100 billion in FX reserves, read US Treasurys, every two weeks this means China has, oh, call it some 18 weeks of intervention left.

What happens when China liquidates all of its Treasury holdings is anyone's guess, and an even better question is will anyone else decide to join China as its sells US Treasurys at a never before seen pace, and best of all: will the Fed just sit there and watch as the biggest offshore holder of US Treasurys liquidates its entire inventory...
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/29/15 10:53 PM

My comment : If things goes like understood from the last revelation from the "Far East"; it appears like that we won't see any global crash this fall but in 3 years.

I already understood that Mystery Babylon would be ALL destroyed in 3 years(End of 2017) but I speculated that the financial arm of Mystery Babylon was going to fall this Fall first and the political arm would fall after. Often, it doesn't happen the way that what "we think" or "figured it all out". LOL I'm so glad that it doesn't.

I like this quote from Steven Jones in the article below.

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It appears to me that if God allows the markets to crash three times before "the big one," it is His mercy being extended to a lot of people. The first three crashes are divine hints to see who is paying attention. This gives people an opportunity to lose confidence in Babylon, so that if they have any wealth to preserve, they might avoid losing it, even if they do not have ears to hear the word of the Lord.


To me it would be something our wonderful Lord would do. But we will see what this Fall will bring and how things continue to develop in the next 3 years.

Here's the full article below.

Revelation about the market crash
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2015/08-2015/revelation-about-the-market-crash/
Aug 29, 2015
Quote:

The recent market crash probably will give the Fed the excuse to leave the zero interest rate where it has been since the last market crash in September of 2008. It has been nearly seven years now since the last crash. The Fed's "solution" has been to flood Wall Street with cash by offering the big banks no-interest loans. This policy bailed out the banks and helped the stock market recover, but it did little to solve the broader economic problem insofar as Main Street is concerned.

The recovery was always just around the corner, just a few months away. The Fed was always going to raise interest rates a few months later, first when the unemployment rate got down to 6%, and then when some other indicator improved. In my view, I saw this as the start of Babylon's collapse, so I did not view this as just another market cycle. After all, we had just completed 13 years of spiritual warfare (1993-2006), appealing to the divine court for the end of the world's captivity. Having won our case in heaven, we viewed these earthly results in that light.

In the past seven years the world has not recovered from the 2008 crash. Stock markets have certainly rebounded as new money flooded into stocks (equities), but the stock market is not an accurate measure of an economy. It only reflects the earnings of the few. The jobless rate in the US still remains stuck at 15% or higher. Even the official "Unemployment Rate" (5.3%) only measures the number of people who are getting unemployment benefits. It does not measure the number of people who are actually unemployed or underemployed.

A few days ago I was sent some revelation from the Far East about the most recent market collapse: "There will be three rounds of up and down; on the fourth, it will totally collapse." His comment was, "the world wide collapse has started," although, he added, "this will be spread out over the next three years."

He also gave further revelation: "God has said His plans will be fulfilled, and legions of warrior angels like the vast oceans are on standby." In other words, this is not a time for panic, but for faith, which comes by hearing the word of God.

His understanding is that the first collapse (of the four) is what just occurred in August 2015. However, it may be that September 2008 was the first, and August 2015 was the second. There are often various ways to interpret and understand the Father's Word. We should be watchful either way, but it appears that there is at least one more downturn in the market before the final (fourth) collapse.

His practical suggestion is to "get out of all paper investments." Also, "get into gold/silver; get your cash out, get out of stocks now." Of course, for those who know what they are doing, there may still be opportunity to make money on the up-and-down market, but it is risky, too. Take note that most of the major financial advisers wept crocodile tears last week, saying, "No one saw this coming!"

They are wrong, of course. Many DID see it coming and have been warning people about it for months. But these people were ignored on most news stations. You see, the system is based on confidence, not on genuine fundamentals. So the official news channels do not want to give much credence to those who would undermine confidence in the integrity of the system. But every time a crash occurs, more and more people come to see that flooding the market with "QE to infinity" did not fix the underlying systemic problem. People then begin to lose confidence in the system.

It appears to me that if God allows the markets to crash three times before "the big one," it is His mercy being extended to a lot of people. The first three crashes are divine hints to see who is paying attention. This gives people an opportunity to lose confidence in Babylon, so that if they have any wealth to preserve, they might avoid losing it, even if they do not have ears to hear the word of the Lord.

Keep in mind also that this could be spread out over the next three years, according to my source. This may imply that the fourth (big) crash is not imminent and could occur as late as 2018. My own revelation tells me of a three-year period from the end of 2014 to the end of 2017 (which, by the Hebrew calendar is the start of 2018). Recall that this is the hundred-year cycle from 1914-1917.

So I hope that this gives you a longer-term perspective on prophetic events. Most people today are focusing entirely on September 2015, as if this will mark the end of the world. Certainly, this next month will be important, but there will be life after September.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/19/15 01:54 AM

Federal Reserve leaves interest rates at zero

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...-rates-at-zero/

by Stephen Jones

Sep 18, 2015


In the wake of the Great Depression of 2009, the Federal Reserve lowered interest rates to zero. This is known as ZIRP (Zero Interest Rate Policy). It has remained there to this day, giving banks free money, supposedly to provide liquidity to the markets.

Normally, such a policy would heat up the economy and cause inflation. Even the huge bailouts failed to do this. This was because the money did not hit Main Street except in trickles. The vast bulk of the new money simply brought the big banks back to solvency, and the banks used most of the excess money as investments, rather than as loans to the so-called “little people.”

The government forced these “little people” (taxpayers) to bail out the rich. The result was that the rich got bailed out and got richer. The poor got unemployment, homelessness, debt, and greater poverty. If the government had instead used the money to bail out the people, the money would have hit the street, rather than being locked up in the vaults of the rich. The debt load of the people would have been reduced, and many would have paid off their “toxic loans.”

The banks would not have had so many unpayable loans on its balance sheets, and this would have bailed out the banks indirectly by helping the people. In other words, the money would have flowed up to the banks, rather than trickling down to the people.

Babylon Provides us with Debt

The system is in trouble because of too much debt. There is not enough money in the world to pay off these debts, because since the Federal Reserve Act was passed a century ago, debt is what creates money. The problem is that because loans come with interest, more money must be repaid than was created by the loan. The only way that can happen is if more and more people borrow money (at interest), because their loans create the money needed to replace the money being sucked out of Main Street as they repay their loans. It is the ultimate Ponzi scheme, which has no chance of ending amicably.

The Babylonian system is designed to make money flow upward slowly and surely. The people at the bottom struggle with shortages of money, hoping that others will borrow more money into circulation to keep the economy going. As long as loans are made available (normally through low interest rates, which make loans attractive), the economy tends to grow. Increasing the amount of debt becomes “sustainable,” which means the people are able to pay back their loans and the interest as well.

Over the years, the Federal Reserve Bank raised and lowered interest rates in order to speed up or slow down the economy. It was all about the ability to get loans and to increase or decrease the amount of money in circulation.

The Debt Implosion in 2008

But then came 2008, when suddenly the system began to implode. There was too much debt and not enough money. The Fed immediately lowered interest rates to zero in the attempt to fix the problem as it had always done in the past. This time, however, it did not really fix the problem, except for the banks and big corporations. Unemployment shot up, people became homeless, and bankruptcies increased.

The government told us this was just another temporary setback. The bailouts would work. When unemployment went down to 6%, Obama said, all would be well, and the Fed would then raise interest rates back to “normal” levels.

Well, now the unemployment rates (government figures) is down to 5.1% and are expected to drop to 4.9% shortly. Yet the Fed still has not raised interest rates. Why? Because, as Janet Yellin explained yesterday, even with trillions of dollars of new money in the past few years, there is still no inflation. She is still not satisfied with the unemployment rate. Foreign markets are still shaky and could destabilize the US economy.

Well, of course! The trillions of dollars in new money never reached Main Street. The little people are still in debt and have to reduce their spending.

Unemployment Rate vs. Labor Participation Rate

The unemployment rates are not accurate, because they include only those who are getting unemployment checks. The rates do not include the rest of the unemployed, the homeless, or the underemployed.

They should not base their decisions on how many people are getting unemployment checks, but look at the actual number of people who are working. This is called the Labor Participation Force.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

The participation rate (as of last April) is the lowest since 1979.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/06/labor-force-participation-rate_n_3028135.html

The rate is still dropping and is now at 62.2%. It is now the lowest since 1977, and more than 94 million people are not working in America.

http://right180.com/2015/09/05/record-94...-straight-month

In January 1948 — the first year the data was recorded — 88.7 percent of men, aged 20 and older, were participating in the U.S. labor force.

Real employment has dropped 20% since 1948. Of course, this includes retirees, both in 1948 and in 2015. But a more accurate measure of real employment should start with the Labor Participation Rate and subtract the number of retirees and those with disabilities. But instead, the government continues to monitor those getting unemployment checks as its so-called measure of unemployment.

It is obvious that even Janet Yellin is not impressed with the 5.1% unemployment figure, even though it is far below Obama’s 6% goal indicating a booming economy.

The Result of the Fed’s Decision

Babylonian paper money derives its value from its rate of interest. When interest rates are high, the value of the dollar goes up. When interest rates are low, the value of the dollar goes down. So the first result of Janet Yellin’s announcement yesterday, keeping interest rates at zero, was that the value of the dollar dropped. It had already gone up in previous weeks because many were anticipating an increase in interest rates. But continuing ZIRP caused the dollar to drop back down.

The second result of her announcement was that the US economy did not crash immediately. Instead, it will only continue to erode at the same slow rate until some other event pushes it over the cliff. When that happens, the Plunge Protection Team will buy stocks by the billions in the attempt to stabilize the markets. (This is known officially as the President’s working Group on Financial Markets, created by Executive Order 12631 on March 18, 1988.)

As Fed chairperson, Janet Yellin is a member of this “Team.”

The PPT is the band aid on the Babylonian system, designed to manipulate the markets so that the system can remain viable for a longer period of time. The downside is that the band aid has become larger and larger over time as the markets have become more volatile. With the recent volatility seeing thousand-point ups and downs, it is apparent that this band aid is reaching the end of its useful life.

The End of Babylon

The Babylonian economic model does not work in the long term, because there is only so much money that can be sucked out of Main Street before the economy implodes. The system is designed to destroy the middle class by increasing the higher- and lower-income categories. A large and prosperous middle class, on the other hand, is the key to a healthy society and economy. As time has passed, America has become sick in this way.

Babylon is now like overripe fruit. All political systems go through the natural life cycle from the vigor of youth to maturity to old age, and then it dies. We are seeing this today with the Babylonian system. This does not mean that the world will end. Far from it. It just means that the system will be replaced soon.

Scripture indicates that Babylon will be overthrown by “the kings from the east” (Revelation 16:12), following the precedent set in 537 B.C. when Babylon was overthrown by the Medes and Persians coming in from the east. Today these “kings” are Russia and China, who are setting up an alternative system that will eventually replace the western money system.

In 537 B.C. the kings of the east dried up the River Euphrates in order to take down Babylon. In our time the “river” is the liquidity of money and the banks of the river are now the banks themselves. As we observe world events, we can see the emergence of conditions leading to the fulfillment of this prophecy. The timing, too, is perfect, as I have shown in past articles. We are currently in a crucial three-year cycle from 2014-2017, and it seems likely that the “river” will dry up during this time.

- See more at: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.yGzIyKYt.dpuf
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/19/15 01:25 PM


Elle, you have a more financially focused view of end time events than anyone I have ever heard. What is your interpretation of Revelation 13:16-17?

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/21/15 06:05 PM

Quote:
The system is in trouble because of too much debt.
That's because the little people are behaving like the government!
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/26/15 01:47 AM

My Comment: This article is a good overview of the 10 largest countries stock market crashes this past 60 days. Also of interest to note that he has notice an economic downward spirals events every 7th years from this past 50 years. Here we see the Lord's working the events in His appointed time to bring down Mystery Babylon.

The Stock Markets Of The 10 Largest Global Economies Are All Crashing

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archi...re-all-crashing

By Michael Snyder, on September 24th, 2015
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Globe Interconnectedness You would think that the simultaneous crashing of all of the largest stock markets around the world would be very big news. But so far the mainstream media in the United States is treating it like it isn’t really a big deal. Over the last sixty days, we have witnessed the most significant global stock market decline since the fall of 2008, and yet most people still seem to think that this is just a temporary “bump in the road” and that the bull market will soon resume. Hopefully they are right. When the Dow Jones Industrial Average plummeted 777 points on September 29th, 2008 everyone freaked out and rightly so. But a stock market crash doesn’t have to be limited to a single day. Since the peak of the market earlier this year, the Dow is down almost three times as much as that 777 point crash back in 2008. Over the last sixty days, we have seen the 8th largest single day stock market crash in U.S. history on a point basis and the 10th largest single day stock market crash in U.S. history on a point basis. You would think that this would be enough to wake people up, but most Americans still don’t seem very alarmed. And of course what has happened to U.S. stocks so far is quite mild compared to what has been going on in the rest of the world.

Right now, stock market wealth is being wiped out all over the planet, and none of the largest global economies have been exempt from this. The following is a summary of what we have seen in recent days…

#1 The United States – The Dow Jones Industrial Average is down more than 2000 points since the peak of the market. Last month we saw stocks decline by more than 500 points on consecutive trading days for the first time ever, and there has not been this much turmoil in U.S. markets since the fall of 2008.

#2 China – The Shanghai Composite Index has plummeted nearly 40 percent since hitting a peak earlier this year. The Chinese economy is steadily slowing down, and we just learned that China’s manufacturing index has hit a 78 month low.

#3 Japan – The Nikkei has experienced extremely violent moves recently, and it is now down more than 3000 points from the peak that was hit earlier in 2015. The Japanese economy and the Japanese financial system are both basket cases at this point, and it isn’t going to take much to push Japan into a full-blown financial collapse.

#4 Germany – Almost one-fourth of the value of German stocks has already been wiped out, and this crash threatens to get much worse. The Volkswagen emissions scandal is making headlines all over the globe, and don’t forget to watch for massive trouble at Germany’s biggest bank.

#5 The United Kingdom – British stocks are down about 16 percent from the peak of the market, and the UK economy is definitely on shaky ground.

#6 France – French stocks have declined nearly 18 percent, and it has become exceedingly apparent that France is on the exact same path that Greece has already gone down.

#7 Brazil – Brazil is the epicenter of the South American financial crisis of 2015. Stocks in Brazil have plunged more than 12,000 points since the peak, and the nation has already officially entered a new recession.

#8 Italy – Watch Italy. Italian stocks are already down 15 percent, and look for the Italian economy to make very big headlines in the months ahead.

#9 India – Stocks in India have now dropped close to 4000 points, and analysts are deeply concerned about this major exporting nation as global trade continues to contract.

#10 Russia – Even though the price of oil has crashed, Russia is actually doing better than almost everyone else on this list. Russian stocks have fallen by about 10 percent so far, and if the price of oil stays this low the Russian financial system will continue to suffer.

What we are witnessing now is the continuation of a cycle of financial downturns that has happened every seven years. The following is a summary of how this cycle has played out over the past 50 years…

It started in 1966 with a 20 percent stock market crash.
Seven years later, the market lost another 45 percent (1973-74).
Seven years later was the beginning of the “hard recession” (1980).
Seven years later was the Black Monday crash of 1987.
Seven years later was the bond market crash of 1994.
Seven years later was 9/11 and the 2001 tech bubble collapse.
Seven years later was the 2008 global financial collapse.
2015: What’s next?
A lot of people were expecting something “big” to happen on September 14th and were disappointed when nothing happened.

But the truth is that it has never been about looking at any one particular day. Over the past sixty days we have seen absolutely extraordinary things happen all over the planet, and yet some people are not even paying attention because they did not meet their preconceived notions of how events should play out.

And this is just the beginning. We haven’t even gotten to the great derivatives crisis that is coming yet. All of these things are going to take time to fully unfold.

A lot of people that write about “economic collapse” talk about it like it will be some type of “event” that will happen on a day or a week and then we will recover.

Well, that is not what it is going to be like.

You need to be ready to endure a very, very long crisis. The suffering that is coming to this nation is beyond what most of us could even imagine.

Even now we are seeing early signs of it. For instance, the mayor of Los Angeles says that the growth of homelessness in his city has gotten so bad that it is now “an emergency”…

Quote:
On Tuesday, Los Angeles officials announced the city’s homelessness problem has become an emergency, and proposed allotting $100 million to help shelter the city’s massive and growing indigent population.

LA Mayor Eric Garcetti also issued a directive on Monday evening for the city to free up $13 million to help house the estimated 26,000 people who are living on the city’s streets.

According to the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, the number of encampments and people living in vehicles has increased by 85% over the last two years alone.

And in recent years we have seen poverty absolutely explode all over the nation. The “bread lines” of the Great Depression have been replaced with EBT cards, and there is a possibility that a government shutdown in October could “suspend or delay food stamp payments”…

Quote:
A government shutdown Oct. 1 could immediately suspend or delay food stamp payments to some of the 46 million Americans who receive the food aid.

The Agriculture Department said Tuesday that it will stop providing benefits at the beginning of October if Congress does not pass legislation to keep government agencies open.

“If Congress does not act to avert a lapse in appropriations, then USDA will not have the funding necessary for SNAP benefits in October and will be forced to stop providing benefits within the first several days of October,” said Catherine Cochran, a spokeswoman for USDA. “Once that occurs, families won’t be able to use these benefits at grocery stores to buy the food their families need.”

In the U.S. alone, there are tens of millions of people that could not survive without the help of the federal government, and more people are falling out of the middle class every single day.

Our economy is already falling apart all around us, and now another great financial crisis has begun.

When will the “nothing is happening” crowd finally wake up?

Hopefully it will be before they are sitting out on the street begging for spare change to feed their family.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/26/15 03:00 AM

Sorry for the delayed response.
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne

Elle, you have a more financially focused view of end time events than anyone I have ever heard.

It's because my understanding is the 2nd beast of Revelation 13 is the Banking Cartel that constitute some Jewish-Zionist families which the Rothschild being the most prominent of them all. The Rothschilds sign the "Holy Alliance" with the RCC Church in 1815 shortly after the Pope's fatal wound and became the Church banks. I have a few posts about it in this discussion and other discussions in this forum, but this article does give a better explanation of it.

Another thing worth noting....if you do the research on Loyola, the founder of the Jesuit, you will find that he was actually a Marranos (spanish name for "pig") that were force to convert into Christianity or leave Spain or die. They "converted" but in secrete they practiced Judaism. Basicaly the Jesuit infiltrated the RCC Church as they infiltrated all other denomination including the the Seventh-Day Adventist Church as documented by James Arrabito.

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne

What is your interpretation of Revelation 13:16-17?

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

The world already cannot buy or sell without the mark of the beastby which fiat money is the banking cartel's mark.

Here's two posts about the number 666 which the number is found in 1kg 10:14 by which 666 is related to money-gold.Post#175469 concerning the paralele of Solomon's kingdom and #Post175477 the numeric value of Daniel 3:1 being 666
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/29/15 10:01 PM

China enters the war against ISIS
Sep 27, 2015

By Stephen Jones

"Russia’s entry into the conflict against ISIS is now being backed overtly by China, which is sending its first naval vessel to Syria through the Suez Canal.

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/chinese-military-personnel-expected-to-arrive-in-syria/

Quote:
On Tuesday morning, a Chinese naval vessel reportedly traveled through Egypt’s Suez Canal to enter the Mediterranean Sea; its destination was not confirmed.

However, according to a senior officer in the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) that is stationed inside the Syrian coastal city of Latakia, Chinese military personnel and aerial assets are scheduled to arrive in the coming weeks (6 weeks) to the port-city of Tartous – he could not provide any more detail.

Russia has made it abundantly clear that they are taking an active role in this conflict, but the news of the Chinese military to Syria provides more insight into their contingency.

Meanwhile, last Friday (September 25, 2015), French jets began bombing ISIS targets, including a munitions facility.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/au...ticle-1.1945885

Quote:
Two Rafale fighter planes armed with laser-guided bombs “entirely destroyed” an Islamic State munitions depot and killed dozens of ISIS fighters, making France the first coalition country to make good on its promise to battle the murderous militants.

“Other operations will follow in the coming days with the same goal — to weaken this terrorist organization and come to the aid of the Iraqi authorities,” French President Francois Hollande vowed.

It is now clear that the US government has lost control of the situation in Syria. The new coalition of France, Germany, and Russia, with support from China, will no doubt see an avalanche of support from other nations, whose mission will be to defeat ISIS and to leave President Assad in power. Meanwhile, US-backed rebels in Syria, whether they go by the name ISIS or not, are now assured of losing the civil war. They will have to retreat into the shadows and fight on as common terrorists.

This reminds me a lot of the situation last March, when over 50 nations rushed to join the AIIB after the UK broke ranks with the US and decided to join the Chinese-led bank as founding members. This was a major financial defeat for the US government, and now the US is experiencing a major diplomatic defeat involving the military.

Overall, these defeats show how the US government is losing its leadership position in the world. While some politicians want to “make America great again,” not many of them want to do so by doing good, but rather by putting fear back into national leaders from around the world. The problem is that as time has passed, the US government has used its position of leadership to become what is known as the “bully nation.”

http://alspolitics1.blogspot.com/2005/05/is-america-worlds-bully.html

America was not always such a bully. We used to defend the weak and help the poor. In much of the last century, while the Soviet Union persecuted its dissenters, America took them in and protected them from tyranny. Now that the Soviet Union has been replaced by a new nation—Russia—it is the other way around, as proven by the case of Edward Snowden and any other whistleblower who exposes the embarrassing sins of the US government. Secrecy is the shroud of sin, and sin does not like exposure. Threat of exposure prevents sin from continuing behind the closed doors of secret government. Exposure puts the fear of God into political sinners.

Here is an article that speaks of the “bully nation.”

http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/21549-bully-nation

Quote:
The United States openly views itself as the world police force, a benign hegemon morally ordained to impose its interests and values on the rest of the world and justified in the name of freedom, human rights and antiterrorism to do to weaker countries what it wants. It spends more on weapons than its next 20 largest competitors combined. President Obama proclaimed "[S]o long as I'm Commander-in-Chief, we will sustain the strongest military the world has ever known." To peasants living in small countries in Latin America, the Middle East, Africa and Southeast Asia - where the United States has sent armed forces, used drones to bomb, and often overthrown the government - polls show that a majority of people see the United States as the greatest threat to their security, and fear it. Hegemony here seamlessly unfolds as morally sanctioned, institutionalized bullying….


Bullying is the means through which the corporate empires were built. Carnegie and Rockefeller intimidated and threatened their rival capitalists to cede them an ever-larger share of the market. They brought in Pinkerton goons to beat striking workers into submission. Workers were forced to either sign "yellow dog" contracts and pledge not to join unions, or be thrown into the street. Similar bullying practices continue today. Corporations warn entire communities they will shut down factories and undermine the local economy if they do not accept low wages and minimal regulations. Banks entice consumers to borrow through predatory loans and then raise interest rates and threaten foreclosure. The corporations are clear they have the power and will not tolerate challenges from weaklings who fail to know their place.

Bullying enhances the ideology that the strong are strong and the weak are weak, and each deserves to be where they are…. As long as the United States embraces militarism and aggressive capitalism, systemic bullying and all its impacts - abroad and at home - will persist as a major crisis.

Revelation 17:16-18 speaks of the false bride, known as the “harlot,” saying,

16 And the ten horns which you saw, and the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked, and will eat her flesh and will burn her up with fire…. 18 And the woman whom you saw is the great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth.

In other words, the very “horns” (governmental powers) who have supported the Babylonian Bully-Harlot will turn against her and will “eat her flesh.” This metaphor is designed to point out that the story of Jezebel’s death was prophetic of what is happening today. 2 Kings 9:10 says, “And the dogs shall eat Jezebel in the territory of Jezreel, and none shall bury her.” It was fulfilled in 2 Kings 9:35, 36. This graphic description prophesies of the Jezebel system that will soon be overthrown by her own “dogs” (nations). We are witnessing this even now in slow motion.

- See more at: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.4TeoihOG.dpuf
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/30/15 07:45 AM

Elle said:

"It's because my understanding is the 2nd beast of Revelation 13 is the Banking Cartel that constitute some Jewish-Zionist families which the Rothschild being the most prominent of them all. The Rothschilds sign the "Holy Alliance" with the RCC Church in 1815 shortly after the Pope's fatal wound and became the Church banks. I have a few posts about it in this discussion and other discussions in this forum, but this article does give a better explanation of it."


Then, you do not believe that the Second Beast is the USA united with the apostate Protestant churches in a union of church and state?

Forgive me if you have already discussed this elsewhere. It's a large site and I am still fairly new here.

Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/30/15 08:37 AM

Elle said:

"Another thing worth noting....if you do the research on Loyola, the founder of the Jesuit, you will find that he was actually a Marranos (spanish name for "pig") that were force to convert into Christianity or leave Spain or die. They "converted" but in secrete they practiced Judaism. Basicaly the Jesuit infiltrated the RCC Church as they infiltrated all other denomination including the the Seventh-Day Adventist Church as documented by James Arrabito."

I am familiar with the twisted history of Loyola. The Jesuit manipulations are remarkable, to put it mildly!

James Arrabito opened a lot of eyes. It is sad that he died so young in an "accident". He had much more to say, I'm sure.



Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/30/15 09:34 AM

Elle said:

"The world already cannot buy or sell without the mark of the beastby which fiat money is the banking cartel's mark."


Ah, money from nowhere is truely "miraculous"! LOL


You believe the banking cartel to be the Second Beast and fiat money to be its mark, does this mean you do not believe the following statement?

"What then is the change of the Sabbath, but the sign, or mark, of the authority of the Roman Church—“the mark of the beast”?" – {GC 448.1}

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/30/15 06:36 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Forgive me if you have already discussed this elsewhere. It's a large site and I am still fairly new here.


Yes I understand this is a large forum and myself have a hard time to re-locate my own posts.

Originally Posted By: prodigalone
Originally Posted By: Elle
"It's because my understanding is the 2nd beast of Revelation 13 is the Banking Cartel that constitute some Jewish-Zionist families which the Rothschild being the most prominent of them all. The Rothschilds sign the "Holy Alliance" with the RCC Church in 1815 shortly after the Pope's fatal wound and became the Church banks. I have a few posts about it in this discussion and other discussions in this forum, but this article does give a better explanation of it."

Then, you do not believe that the Second Beast is the USA united with the apostate Protestant churches in a union of church and state?


I don't see in the current or past events the "apostate Protestant" in the lead. Obama is not even a Christian nor does most US Congress are. Some put the "Christian" front like the Bush family did. But underneath they are Zionist serving its agenda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Organization_of_America

For sure they got the Christians to support the zionist movement, but to me its not clearly a "apostate protestant" body supporting the RCC agenda. What I see is the US, the Congress and the RCC supporting the Zionist and Israel's agenda. This is what the current events and history is showing. Let's keep in mind that history is the fulfillment of prophecies. So if history clashes with our interpretation, then we need to revise our interpretation and go back to scriptures.

Why is the Lord making the world support a false Zionist movement at the end of time? This is an important element in scriptures to understand prophecies. It's not possibe to describe this in one post and would take time to study closely. However to say it briefly so anyone interested could look into it ... Basically it started when Jacob stole or obtain the blessing and the birthright deceitfully and unlawfully from Esau. Esau was the firstborn. According to the the Lord law the birthright could not be taken away from him unless he proved himself unworthy of it. What Jacob did was unlawful yet it was still in the Lord's plan.

Isaac did prophecied in the curse of Esau (Gen 27:39,40) that he(Esau) would regain his freedom and ability to "trample or rule" over others. See the Hebrew definition of rewd in Gen 27:40.

So this prophecy was fulfilled in 1917 when the land of Israel(which was the inheritance of the birthright) was "given" to the Rothschild in the Balfour declaration.

What does the Rothschild family or their "Zionist interest" have to do with the Esau-Edom nation? To answer this question and to see the link, we need to go back in time to seek what happened to the nation of Edom(Esau) who occupied the land in Mt Seir. In 126 BC the nation of Judah regain its independence by concquering Greece at the Macaabee conquest. During that conquest they also forced the nation of Edom(Esau) to convert into Judaism. The Greek word for Edom is Idumea. From that point of history the nation of Edom(Esau) dissappear and were fully absorbe into the nation of Judah. Jewish historian wrote extensively about this conquest incuding Josephus who wrote in in his Antiquities of the Jews, XIII, ix, 1 :

Quote:
"Hyrcanus took also Dora and Marissa, cities of Idumea, and subdued all the Idumeans ; and permitted them to stay in that country, if they would be circumcised, and make use of the laws of the Jews; and they were so desirous of living in the country of their forefathers, that they submitted to the use of circumcision and the rest of the Jews' ways of living; at which time therefore, this befell them, that they were hereafter no other than Jews."


Also we read in The Jewish Encyclopedia, 1925 edition under " Edom," affirms this by saying,

Quote:
"Judas Maccabeus conquered their territory for a time (B.C. 163; Ant. Xii, 8 par. 1, 2). They were again subdued by John Hyrcanus (c. 125 B.C.) by whom they were forced to observe Jewish rites and laws ( ib. 9, par. 1; xiv. 4, par. 4). They were then incorporated with the Jewish nation, and their country was called by the Greeks and Romans 'Idumea' (Mark iii. 8; Ptolemy, Geography v. 16). With Antipater began the Idumean dynasty that ruled over Judea till its conquest by the Romans. Immediately before the siege of Jerusalem 20,000 Idumeans, under the leadership of John, Simeon, Phinehas, and Jacob, appeared before Jerusalem to fight in behalf of the zealots who were besieged in the Temple (Josephus, B.J. iv. 4, par. 5).

"From this time the Idumeans ceased to be a separate people."


The link is this... the nation of Judah or the Jews of today are half Edomite(Idumeans in Greek which are Esau's descendance). So the nation of Judah being half Edomites are fulfilling the prophecies of Esau - Edom in scriptures. So the Lord allowed them (the Edomites-Judah) to regain the land of Israel to make right the wrong that Jacob created by unlawfully obtaining the birthright. The Lord regave the birthright to Esau-Edom so they can prove themself worthy(or not) of the birithight. If they prove themself unworthy(which they did as we all can witness they have ruled by the sword and love to "eat blood" which was unlawful), then the birthright will be legally taken from "Esau" and given to the "Saints of the Most High". Basically that's what I understand is going on.

To have an indept study of this Esau element of scripture, I recommend to read "the Struggle for the Birthright".
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/30/15 07:28 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Originally Posted By: Elle
"The world already cannot buy or sell without the mark of the beastby which fiat money is the banking cartel's mark."

Ah, money from nowhere is truely "miraculous"! LOL

I agree. Money is not "miraculous" or "evil". We all use the “Babylonians” money as we have no choice. However this does not mean we have their mark written on our forehead and hands if we do not worship money. My understanding of that text is those that worship money has the mark of the 2nd beast because “money is the root of all evil”. (1Tim 6:10) and they will practice “lawlessness” to obtain it or in their manner of using it.


Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
You believe the banking cartel to be the Second Beast and fiat money to be its mark, does this mean you do not believe the following statement?

"What then is the change of the Sabbath, but the sign, or mark, of the authority of the Roman Church—“the mark of the beast”?" – {GC 448.1}


#1. Can I find this in the Bible? There's a discussion here that took place about 7 years ago that was concluded that we cannot prove from the Blble that Sunday is the mark of the beast.

#2. This conclusion comes from thinking the 2nd beast of Rev 13 is still the Pope while we also say it is the “apostate Protestant” that supports the Pope – so we believe that the Pope is still in power while scriptures and history says the Pope received a mortal wound but it was healed as history shows the Pope was re-instated by Napolean(who was a Masson) because he needed the Pope to crown him Emperor. And in 1815 we see the 2nd beast(the Rothschild) making an alliance with the 1st beast(the Pope) with the Holy Alliance fulfilling the 2nd half of Rev 13. BTW…being "healed" doesn't mean that the RCC has the same power it had before. History doesn’t show that the RCC has regained its power it had once before.

So really we(SDAs) say that the Pope has still (or some say – will regain) ultimate power thinking that the Pope is still in power manipulating the “apostate protestant”. Personally I see this interpretation as inconsistent with other revelation from Daniel and history that shows that every beast that came into power was a total different power or beast. Thinking that the Pope (or the RCC) is the 1st and remaining in power manipulating the 2nd beast of Rev 13 is a false interpretation of scriptures and not an honest reflection of history which is the real fulfillment of prophecies.

#3. With all honesty, I think no one of us (SDAs) should or can quote any of EGW's writings because our Church failed to make a cleanup(cannonize) her writings. All the EGW writings we have we do not know which texts comes straight from her pen. She had a large team of people working and writing for her that we are told that Ellen has approved. Plus some of EGW writings has been changed here and there even after her death and we are told that she had approved or would approve of it by the white estate. I have known an SDA and heard of others who goes to the extend to not trust any EGW's writtings dating after 1881 -- when James White died and ceased to oversee her writtings.

I do believe the Lord spoke to Ellen, however until our Church does the work needed to clean up and tell us what actually came from the pen of Ellen…’till then I only have the Holy Scriptures and the guidance of the the Holy Spirit to rely on.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/30/15 07:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: prodigalone
Originally Posted By: Elle
"It's because my understanding is the 2nd beast of Revelation 13 is the Banking Cartel that constitute some Jewish-Zionist families which the Rothschild being the most prominent of them all. The Rothschilds sign the "Holy Alliance" with the RCC Church in 1815 shortly after the Pope's fatal wound and became the Church banks. I have a few posts about it in this discussion and other discussions in this forum, but this article does give a better explanation of it."

Then, you do not believe that the Second Beast is the USA united with the apostate Protestant churches in a union of church and state?


I don't see in the current or past events the "apostate Protestant" in the lead. Obama is not even a Christian nor does most US Congress are. Some put the "Christian" front like the Bush family did. But underneath they are Zionist serving its agenda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Organization_of_America
So wouldn't that follow what he said, USA is the state, and apostate Protestant churches is the church in a union of church and state?

For otherwise, what you are implying, it would be a union of church and church.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/02/15 02:34 PM

Elle, I believe we must trust that God has preserved the integrity of the Spirit of Prophesy. If we begin to doubt the veracity of the messages the Lord has gifted the Church with, then this same line of logic will lead us to question the Bible itself! After all it is far older and has passed through far more hands than the SOP writings.

Questioning God's power to preserve the Word that He has once delivered to us has led more than one denomination, and I'm afraid even some Seventh Day Adventists to disaster. With no firm foundation, we are left blind and bound to fall into a pit...

The quote below is from 1883, two years after your deadline; however, these words were not written behind closed doors, in some private study. Sister White spoke these words in a sermon in front of the General Conference. That is a rather large number of respectable eyewitnesses. I believe them to be accurate:

"When you find men questioning the testimonies, finding fault with them, and seeking to draw away the people from their influence, be assured that God is not at work through them. It is another spirit..."

1SM 45.1 - From a sermon at the General Conference of 1883

I would add that for many years, I was skeptical of the prophetic gift attributed to Ellen White. In the final analysis, after more years of study, I could not point to a single instance of disagreement between the SOP and the Bible. I now have no doubt that she was a prophetess of God and that her writings have been preserved by divine care as surely as has been the Bible itself.


Thank you for your most articulate and detailed answers to my questions.
I'm afraid I cannot subscribe to the majority of the views expressed.
I have heard variations of the theory of Jewish machinations before. While there may be some truth to it, the role assigned to them in prophetic fulfillment does not line up with Scripture or the SOP.

Your thoughts on fiat currency as the Mark of the Beast are fascinating.
Although, the love of money is certainly a major contributing factor,
it is far to general to fit. The Mark of the Beast is a specific item.
The Sabbath, encapsulating God's identity and authority, taken together with
the Little Horn of Daniel, intent on changing "times and laws", combine with numerous
other verses to make a perfect fit.





Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/02/15 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Originally Posted By: Elle
"The world already cannot buy or sell without the mark of the beastby which fiat money is the banking cartel's mark."

Ah, money from nowhere is truely "miraculous"! LOL

I agree. Money is not "miraculous" or "evil". We all use the “Babylonians” money as we have no choice. However this does not mean we have their mark written on our forehead and hands if we do not worship money. My understanding of that text is those that worship money has the mark of the 2nd beast because “money is the root of all evil”. (1Tim 6:10) and they will practice “lawlessness” to obtain it or in their manner of using it.


Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
You believe the banking cartel to be the Second Beast and fiat money to be its mark, does this mean you do not believe the following statement?

"What then is the change of the Sabbath, but the sign, or mark, of the authority of the Roman Church—“the mark of the beast”?" – {GC 448.1}


#1. Can I find this in the Bible? There's a discussion here that took place about 7 years ago that was concluded that we cannot prove from the Blble that Sunday is the mark of the beast.

#2. This conclusion comes from thinking the 2nd beast of Rev 13 is still the Pope while we also say it is the “apostate Protestant” that supports the Pope – so we believe that the Pope is still in power while scriptures and history says the Pope received a mortal wound but it was healed as history shows the Pope was re-instated by Napolean(who was a Masson) because he needed the Pope to crown him Emperor. And in 1815 we see the 2nd beast(the Rothschild) making an alliance with the 1st beast(the Pope) with the Holy Alliance fulfilling the 2nd half of Rev 13. BTW…being "healed" doesn't mean that the RCC has the same power it had before. History doesn’t show that the RCC has regained its power it had once before.

So really we(SDAs) say that the Pope has still (or some say – will regain) ultimate power thinking that the Pope is still in power manipulating the “apostate protestant”. Personally I see this interpretation as inconsistent with other revelation from Daniel and history that shows that every beast that came into power was a total different power or beast. Thinking that the Pope (or the RCC) is the 1st and remaining in power manipulating the 2nd beast of Rev 13 is a false interpretation of scriptures and not an honest reflection of history which is the real fulfillment of prophecies.

#3. With all honesty, I think no one of us (SDAs) should or can quote any of EGW's writings because our Church failed to make a cleanup(cannonize) her writings. All the EGW writings we have we do not know which texts comes straight from her pen. She had a large team of people working and writing for her that we are told that Ellen has approved. Plus some of EGW writings has been changed here and there even after her death and we are told that she had approved or would approve of it by the white estate. I have known an SDA and heard of others who goes to the extend to not trust any EGW's writtings dating after 1881 -- when James White died and ceased to oversee her writtings.

I do believe the Lord spoke to Ellen, however until our Church does the work needed to clean up and tell us what actually came from the pen of Ellen…’till then I only have the Holy Scriptures and the guidance of the the Holy Spirit to rely on.




In point 2) you say that Adventists think "the 2nd beast of Rev 13 is still the Pope while we also say it is the “apostate Protestant” that supports the Pope". I don't recall ever hearing that doctrine? The First and Second Beasts are clearly distinct powers.
Verses 12 and 15 of Revelation chapter 13 show the Second Beast forcing the world to worship the First Beast and his image:

12 "And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."

15"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."


Taken in context with 12 and 15, verse 17 clearly show's the Second Beast enforcing the mark of the First Beast:

16"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."


In point 2) you refer to Rothschild as the Second Beast, since a beast in prophesy represents a nation, I fail to see how a single person or group of people, no matter how wealthy, fits? A nation must occupy a specific geographic location, as the Papacy occupies Vatican City and the USA occupies central North America.





Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/03/15 11:25 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: prodigalone
Originally Posted By: Elle
"It's because my understanding is the 2nd beast of Revelation 13 is the Banking Cartel..."

Then, you do not believe that the Second Beast is the USA united with the apostate Protestant churches in a union of church and state?


I don't see in the current or past events the "apostate Protestant" in the lead. Obama is not even a Christian nor does most US Congress are. Some put the "Christian" front like the Bush family did. But underneath they are Zionist serving its agenda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Organization_of_America
So wouldn't that follow what he said, USA is the state, and apostate Protestant churches is the church in a union of church and state?

USA is currently used by the Zionist(2nd beast). Neither are the church. The Church (the RCC and Protestants) are another seperate entity also used by the 2nd beast of Rev 13. Can we say that the Zionist(or shaddow government) are the state since they are the ones that calls the shots???

Originally Posted By: kland
For otherwise, what you are implying, it would be a union of church and church.
The fear of the union of State and Church comes from the 1260 years of the RCC persecusion and a faulty interpretation of Rev 13 thinking the RCC will rule again and that the second beast is "apostate Protestant" or the USA that will put the RCC in power. But there was a union of the RCC(the 1st beast of Rev 13) with the Rothschid (the 2nd beast that came out of the earth) at the Holy Alliance in 1815 after the Pope's deadly wound.

Personally I foresee the union of state and Church in the Kingdom of God after the destruction of Babylon. It was so in the Type of the law in the days the Israelites had no kings and was ruled by the Priesthood.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/04/15 12:33 AM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne

Elle, I believe we must trust that God has preserved the integrity of the Spirit of Prophesy. If we begin to doubt the veracity of the messages the Lord has gifted the Church with, then this same line of logic will lead us to question the Bible itself! After all it is far older and has passed through far more hands than the SOP writings.

Questioning God's power to preserve the Word that He has once delivered to us has led more than one denomination, and I'm afraid even some Seventh Day Adventists to disaster. With no firm foundation, we are left blind and bound to fall into a pit...

The quote below is from 1883, two years after your deadline; however, these words were not written behind closed doors, in some private study. Sister White spoke these words in a sermon in front of the General Conference. That is a rather large number of respectable witnesses. I believe them to be accurate:

"When you find men questioning the testimonies, finding fault with them, and seeking to draw away the people from their influence, be assured that God is not at work through them. It is another spirit..."

1SM 45.1 - From a sermon at the General Conference of 1883

I understand and respect your position.

I thought it interesting that you acknowledge the validity of James Arrabito's work; so in this are you agreeing that our Church has been infiltrated by the Jesuit?

There is an old picture from the 1888 conference having all the men(5 of them) sitting next to Ellen in the front row doing the masson's secret hidden hand symbol. There is an interesting discussion here on this forum about this. Only from the picture there's a large possibility that the SDA Church was infiltrated as early as 1888 or even sooner. So to me those that suspect any writings beyond 1881 is not that far fetch.

Personally this infiltration doesn't botter me and see this as part of the Lord's plan not only for the SDA Church but for all churches. We need to remember that all the Beasts Empires were set by the Lord to serve His purpose(Rom 13).
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/04/15 05:59 AM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Originally Posted By: Elle
"The world already cannot buy or sell without the mark of the beastby which fiat money is the banking cartel's mark."

Ah, money from nowhere is truely "miraculous"! LOL

I agree. Money is not "miraculous" or "evil". We all use the “Babylonians” money as we have no choice. However this does not mean we have their mark written on our forehead and hands if we do not worship money. My understanding of that text is those that worship money has the mark of the 2nd beast because “money is the root of all evil”. (1Tim 6:10) and they will practice “lawlessness” to obtain it or in their manner of using it.


Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
You believe the banking cartel to be the Second Beast and fiat money to be its mark, does this mean you do not believe the following statement?

"What then is the change of the Sabbath, but the sign, or mark, of the authority of the Roman Church—“the mark of the beast”?" – {GC 448.1}


#1. Can I find this in the Bible? There's a discussion here that took place about 7 years ago that was concluded that we cannot prove from the Blble that Sunday is the mark of the beast.

#2. This conclusion comes from thinking the 2nd beast of Rev 13 is still the Pope while we also say , it is the “apostate Protestant” that supports the Pope – so we believe that the Pope is still in power while scriptures and history says the Pope received a mortal wound but it was healed as history shows the Pope was re-instated by Napolean(who was a Masson) because he needed the Pope to crown him Emperor. And in 1815 we see the 2nd beast(the Rothschild) making an alliance with the 1st beast(the Pope) with the Holy Alliance fulfilling the 2nd half of Rev 13. BTW…being "healed" doesn't mean that the RCC has the same power it had before. History doesn’t show that the RCC has regained its power it had once before.

So really we(SDAs) say that the Pope has still (or some say – will regain) ultimate power thinking that the Pope is still in power manipulating the “apostate protestant”. Personally I see this interpretation as inconsistent with other revelation from Daniel and history that shows that every beast that came into power was a total different power or beast. Thinking that the Pope (or the RCC) is the 1st and remaining in power manipulating the 2nd beast of Rev 13 is a false interpretation of scriptures and not an honest reflection of history which is the real fulfillment of prophecies.

#3. With all honesty, I think no one of us (SDAs) should or can quote any of EGW's writings because our Church failed to make a cleanup(cannonize) her writings. All the EGW writings we have we do not know which texts comes straight from her pen. She had a large team of people working and writing for her that we are told that Ellen has approved. Plus some of EGW writings has been changed here and there even after her death and we are told that she had approved or would approve of it by the white estate. I have known an SDA and heard of others who goes to the extend to not trust any EGW's writtings dating after 1881 -- when James White died and ceased to oversee her writtings.

I do believe the Lord spoke to Ellen, however until our Church does the work needed to clean up and tell us what actually came from the pen of Ellen…’till then I only have the Holy Scriptures and the guidance of the the Holy Spirit to rely on.




In point 2) you say that Adventists think "the 2nd beast of Rev 13 is still the Pope while we also say it is the “apostate Protestant” that supports the Pope". I don't recall ever hearing that doctrine? The First and Second Beasts are clearly distinct powers.

Sorry about that...it is largely that I am mixed up about what exactly we believe as what we say is all over the place and have heard many interpretation in this forum.

Could we say we believe that the 2nd beast is supporting the 1st beast agenda? If so, in this I see that we are saying the 1st beast is secretly in power or will be back in power depending what position you take as I have heard both from our church.
Originally Posted By: Proigalone
Verses 12 and 15 of Revelation chapter 13 show the Second Beast forcing the world to worship the First Beast and his image:

12 "And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."

15"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."

There's much to say here but would be lenghty. My understanding is all the 4 beasts of Daniel worship the same image which is MAN. There is a parallele with the second beast of Rev 13 and its image with King Nebuchenezzar and his image in Daniel 3. To really understand Rev 13 we need to also look at Dan 3. I don't claim I understand these in dept.

But I see today and in history that the 2nd beast has establish the RCC as one entity that they control -- as they control also Washington DC to do their biddings. Rome, Washington DC and "the city of London" all 3 have the same symbol (an obelix) in their small lot that display their union. Here's a good explanation of this with some history.
Originally Posted By: Stephen Jones
The Three City States of Babylon
Mar 10, 2012

Three City States form a triumvirate of power in Mystery Babylon. Each has its own obelisk representing (carnal, sexual) power. Each has its own jurisdiction (financial, military, and religious). If you want to understand better how Mystery Babylon is governed, here is a good place to start.

http://www.scribd.com/SaVanTx/d/26566406-The-3-City-States

Notice the 3 red dragons on the flag of "The City". Note the three stars on the flag of Washington D.C. Notice the "Union Jack" pattern in the square surrounding the Obelisk at the Vatican.

On the flag of The City of London, the one-mile square international trade center, notice the Templar cross under the 3 red dragons. Note in particular the smaller upside down cross as well, as this represents the cross of St. Peter, who was said to be crucified upside down. This again shows the Templar influence in the Vatican.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_St._Peter

In the 1960's it came to be used by Anton LeVey when he established the Satanist Church of America.

The Templars were suppressed by the Vatican in 1307 after they became enormously wealthy by discovering the treasure of Solomon under the temple site in Jerusalem. They were the first to print paper currency and issue credit cards to the tourists going to Jerusalem. Pope Clement V suppressed them, ultimately burning their leader, Jacques De Molay, at the stake (1314).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_de_Molay

The De Molays today are the young boys section of the Order of Freemasons, who are a more visible organization controlled by the Templars. Albert Pike was the head of Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the late 1800's, and he is the one who conceived the plan for three world wars to overthrow Islam, Judaism, and Christianity and set up a Luciferian World Order.

The Templars went underground when suppressed in 1307. Many escaped to Scotland, and these became the power brokers in The City of London, creating a corporation known as The Crown. These became allies of the Rothschilds, Jews in name, but Satanists in secret, even as the Templars (at the top) were also Satanists.

One of the Templar descendants founded the Jesuit Order in the 1500's, and this order ultimately took over power in the Vatican itself, uniting it with their counterparts in The City of London. In 1871 they established Washington DC as the third City State and turned it into a military power to protect the other two.

These form an unholy trinity, but in each city, there are good people who do not know who really rules the world under Mystery Babylon. In fact, all three locations have been secretly taken over by the Babylonians, and all three need to be set free by the power of Jesus Christ.

This is ultimately what we are up against in our prayer campaigns. It is good to know that we are more than conquerors, because all of their military, financial, and religious power is no match for us as we move by the power of Jesus Christ.

- See more at: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.dl1YDKvh.dpuf



Originally Posted By: prodigalone

In point 2) you refer to Rothschild as the Second Beast, since a beast in prophesy represents a nation, I fail to see how a single person or group of people, no matter how wealthy, fits? A nation must occupy a specific geographic location, as the Papacy occupies Vatican City and the USA occupies central North America.

When the RCC came out of Rome to be the 1st Beast of Revelation 13, they too were not "a nation" like Rome, Greece, Persia and Media, or Babylon. That's one reason why the RCC is symbolized in Daniel as an extension of Rome, but yet was call a Beast in Revelation. So I don't see your argument as having validity. I see the symbolism of "Beast" as more of an Empire than representing a nation.

One important puzzle piece I think we should keep in mind about these Jewish underground families who weren't really Jews but Luciferians("which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan."Rev 2:9) that were in hidding in the "earth" for so long -- who fashion the Zionist movement and its agenda -- are descendance of Edom(Esau) - which is a hidden nation mixed with the blood of the Jews that the Lord also have layed out prophecies about that He is fulfilling. The only thing is they have learn the art to do their ruling in "secret" which is their power; thus that's why Revelation identify them as "Mystery(musterion) Babylon". The Greek word musterion is a derivative of muo that means "to shut the mouth". So really a better translation of that name would be "Secret Babylon".

The RCC Beast were not hidden and was conducting their authority in the open. "Secret Babylon" has lost much of their power mainly because their "secret" is no longer hidden anymore and the Lord has been bringing them down by exposing their secret "shaddow government" way of ruling many countries and their indebting scheme thru the Federal Reserve fiat money control.

To me history is showing this type of Empire who has been ruling for the past 100 years. I don't see it as the RCC nor the puppet USA government or the "apostate protestants" that has the current power. They, Edom's descendance, was so secret that most people still don't know about them.

I don't believe that either I or you can convince the other about the identity of the 2nd beasts of Revelation 13. It is one of these complex topic because of all the confusion and obscurity that the Lord has devised for the purpose to keep us out of His way so He can fulfill all that He promised to accomplish by Himself.

However if you want to continue persuing this off-topic discussion; I would be willing. It is healthy to discuss these things, but afterwards, it is only the Holy Spirit that can direct our studies and thoughts and teach us the truth about this. Very soon, when Jesus will come and His Saints of the Most High will be ruling with Him, this will no longer be a mystery for us. It will be plain as day who is who. Untill that day, we have history, current events, the Bible, and the Holy Spirit to teach us.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/04/15 07:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne

Elle, I believe we must trust that God has preserved the integrity of the Spirit of Prophesy. If we begin to doubt the veracity of the messages the Lord has gifted the Church with, then this same line of logic will lead us to question the Bible itself! After all it is far older and has passed through far more hands than the SOP writings.

Questioning God's power to preserve the Word that He has once delivered to us has led more than one denomination, and I'm afraid even some Seventh Day Adventists to disaster. With no firm foundation, we are left blind and bound to fall into a pit...

The quote below is from 1883, two years after your deadline; however, these words were not written behind closed doors, in some private study. Sister White spoke these words in a sermon in front of the General Conference. That is a rather large number of respectable witnesses. I believe them to be accurate:

"When you find men questioning the testimonies, finding fault with them, and seeking to draw away the people from their influence, be assured that God is not at work through them. It is another spirit..."

1SM 45.1 - From a sermon at the General Conference of 1883

I understand and respect your position.

I thought it interesting that you acknowledge the validity of James Arrabito's work; so in this are you agreeing that our Church has been infiltrated by the Jesuit?

There is an old picture from the 1888 conference having all the men(5 of them) sitting next to Ellen in the front row doing the masson's secret hidden hand symbol. There is an interesting discussion here on this forum about this. Only from the picture there's a large possibility that the SDA Church was infiltrated as early as 1888 or even sooner. So to me those that suspect any writings beyond 1881 is not that far fetch.

Personally this infiltration doesn't botter me and see this as part of the Lord's plan not only for the SDA Church but for all churches. We need to remember that all the Beasts Empires were set by the Lord to serve His purpose(Rom 13).




I heard about James Arrabito long before I joined this site. While I am not 100% certain of the validity of Alberto Rivera's testimony, I have no doubt that the SDA denomination has been infiltrated by the Jesuits. It's just too logical a move for them not to have done it.

By the way, I read the thread on the five men in the picture showing Free Mason signs, really interesting. According to Walter Veith, the Free Masons are a secret puppet of the Jesuits. They specialize in fighting on both sides of a conflict, so it is no surprise that many consider them "enemies" of the Masons. Here is a link to a presentation in which he traces the leadership back to the Black Pope: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MX0GtdVQ26E


I agree, it doesn't bother me that the SDA Church has been infiltrated. It is just another reason to check everything by the Bible. Although, I have faith that God has preserved the writings of ALL of His prophets, the writings of Ellen White should also be checked out with Scripture. So far, I have found no discrepancies between the two.

Since "all things, (are) set by the Lord to serve His purpose"(Rom 13)
would it not serve our Father's purpose to preserve intact the messages
He sent to His children through His Prophets, including those He delivered
through Ellen White?

Have you considered what would motivate infiltrators of the SDA to allow their presence be detected? It would be an absolutely Machiavellian method of sewing the seeds of doubt about the veracity of a major portion of the Spirit of Prophesy, and they wouldn't have to lift a finger.






Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/04/15 08:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
[quote=Elle]"The world already cannot buy or sell without the mark of the beastby which fiat money is the banking cartel's mark."

Ah, money from nowhere is truely "miraculous"! LOL

I agree. Money is not "miraculous" or "evil". We all use the “Babylonians” money as we have no choice. However this does not mean we have their mark written on our forehead and hands if we do not worship money. My understanding of that text is those that worship money has the mark of the 2nd beast because “money is the root of all evil”. (1Tim 6:10) and they will practice “lawlessness” to obtain it or in their manner of using it.


Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
You believe the banking cartel to be the Second Beast and fiat money to be its mark, does this mean you do not believe the following statement?

"What then is the change of the Sabbath, but the sign, or mark, of the authority of the Roman Church—“the mark of the beast”?" – {GC 448.1}


#1. Can I find this in the Bible? There's a discussion here that took place about 7 years ago that was concluded that we cannot prove from the Blble that Sunday is the mark of the beast.

#2. This conclusion comes from thinking the 2nd beast of Rev 13 is still the Pope while we also say , it is the “apostate Protestant” that supports the Pope – so we believe that the Pope is still in power while scriptures and history says the Pope received a mortal wound but it was healed as history shows the Pope was re-instated by Napolean(who was a Masson) because he needed the Pope to crown him Emperor. And in 1815 we see the 2nd beast(the Rothschild) making an alliance with the 1st beast(the Pope) with the Holy Alliance fulfilling the 2nd half of Rev 13. BTW…being "healed" doesn't mean that the RCC has the same power it had before. History doesn’t show that the RCC has regained its power it had once before.

So really we(SDAs) say that the Pope has still (or some say – will regain) ultimate power thinking that the Pope is still in power manipulating the “apostate protestant”. Personally I see this interpretation as inconsistent with other revelation from Daniel and history that shows that every beast that came into power was a total different power or beast. Thinking that the Pope (or the RCC) is the 1st and remaining in power manipulating the 2nd beast of Rev 13 is a false interpretation of scriptures and not an honest reflection of history which is the real fulfillment of prophecies.

#3. With all honesty, I think no one of us (SDAs) should or can quote any of EGW's writings because our Church failed to make a cleanup(cannonize) her writings. All the EGW writings we have we do not know which texts comes straight from her pen. She had a large team of people working and writing for her that we are told that Ellen has approved. Plus some of EGW writings has been changed here and there even after her death and we are told that she had approved or would approve of it by the white estate. I have known an SDA and heard of others who goes to the extend to not trust any EGW's writtings dating after 1881 -- when James White died and ceased to oversee her writtings.

I do believe the Lord spoke to Ellen, however until our Church does the work needed to clean up and tell us what actually came from the pen of Ellen…’till then I only have the Holy Scriptures and the guidance of the the Holy Spirit to rely on.




In point 2) you say that Adventists think "the 2nd beast of Rev 13 is still the Pope while we also say it is the “apostate Protestant” that supports the Pope". I don't recall ever hearing that doctrine? The First and Second Beasts are clearly distinct powers.

Sorry about that...it is largely that I am mixed up about what exactly we believe as what we say is all over the place and have heard many interpretation in this forum.

Could we say we believe that the 2nd beast is supporting the 1st beast agenda? If so, in this I see that we are saying the 1st beast is secretly in power or will be back in power depending what position you take as I have heard both from our church.
Originally Posted By: Proigalone
Verses 12 and 15 of Revelation chapter 13 show the Second Beast forcing the world to worship the First Beast and his image:

12 "And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."

15"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."

There's much to say here but would be lenghty. My understanding is all the 4 beasts of Daniel worship the same image which is MAN. There is a parallele with the second beast of Rev 13 and its image with King Nebuchenezzar and his image in Daniel 3. To really understand Rev 13 we need to also look at Dan 3. I don't claim I understand these in dept.

But I see today and in history that the 2nd beast has establish the RCC as one entity that they control -- as they control also Washington DC to do their biddings. Rome, Washington DC and "the city of London" all 3 have the same symbol (an obelix) in their small lot that display their union. Here's a good explanation of this with some history.
Originally Posted By: Stephen Jones
The Three City States of Babylon
Mar 10, 2012

Three City States form a triumvirate of power in Mystery Babylon. Each has its own obelisk representing (carnal, sexual) power. Each has its own jurisdiction (financial, military, and religious). If you want to understand better how Mystery Babylon is governed, here is a good place to start.

http://www.scribd.com/SaVanTx/d/26566406-The-3-City-States

Notice the 3 red dragons on the flag of "The City". Note the three stars on the flag of Washington D.C. Notice the "Union Jack" pattern in the square surrounding the Obelisk at the Vatican.

On the flag of The City of London, the one-mile square international trade center, notice the Templar cross under the 3 red dragons. Note in particular the smaller upside down cross as well, as this represents the cross of St. Peter, who was said to be crucified upside down. This again shows the Templar influence in the Vatican.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_St._Peter

In the 1960's it came to be used by Anton LeVey when he established the Satanist Church of America.

The Templars were suppressed by the Vatican in 1307 after they became enormously wealthy by discovering the treasure of Solomon under the temple site in Jerusalem. They were the first to print paper currency and issue credit cards to the tourists going to Jerusalem. Pope Clement V suppressed them, ultimately burning their leader, Jacques De Molay, at the stake (1314).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_de_Molay

The De Molays today are the young boys section of the Order of Freemasons, who are a more visible organization controlled by the Templars. Albert Pike was the head of Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the late 1800's, and he is the one who conceived the plan for three world wars to overthrow Islam, Judaism, and Christianity and set up a Luciferian World Order.

The Templars went underground when suppressed in 1307. Many escaped to Scotland, and these became the power brokers in The City of London, creating a corporation known as The Crown. These became allies of the Rothschilds, Jews in name, but Satanists in secret, even as the Templars (at the top) were also Satanists.

One of the Templar descendants founded the Jesuit Order in the 1500's, and this order ultimately took over power in the Vatican itself, uniting it with their counterparts in The City of London. In 1871 they established Washington DC as the third City State and turned it into a military power to protect the other two.

These form an unholy trinity, but in each city, there are good people who do not know who really rules the world under Mystery Babylon. In fact, all three locations have been secretly taken over by the Babylonians, and all three need to be set free by the power of Jesus Christ.

This is ultimately what we are up against in our prayer campaigns. It is good to know that we are more than conquerors, because all of their military, financial, and religious power is no match for us as we move by the power of Jesus Christ.

- See more at: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.dl1YDKvh.dpuf



Originally Posted By: prodigalone

In point 2) you refer to Rothschild as the Second Beast, since a beast in prophesy represents a nation, I fail to see how a single person or group of people, no matter how wealthy, fits? A nation must occupy a specific geographic location, as the Papacy occupies Vatican City and the USA occupies central North America.

When the RCC came out of Rome to be the 1st Beast of Revelation 13, they too were not "a nation" like Rome, Greece, Persia and Media, or Babylon. That's one reason why the RCC is symbolized in Daniel as an extension of Rome, but yet was call a Beast in Revelation. So I don't see your argument as having validity. I see the symbolism of "Beast" as more of an Empire than representing a nation.

One important puzzle piece I think we should keep in mind about these Jewish underground families who weren't really Jews but Luciferians("which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan."Rev 2:9) that were in hidding in the "earth" for so long -- who fashion the Zionist movement and its agenda -- are descendance of Edom(Esau) - which is a hidden nation mixed with the blood of the Jews that the Lord also have layed out prophecies about that He is fulfilling. The only thing is they have learn the art to do their ruling in "secret" which is their power; thus that's why Revelation identify them as "Mystery(musterion) Babylon". The Greek word musterion is a derivative of muo that means "to shut the mouth". So really a better translation of that name would be "Secret Babylon".

The RCC Beast were not hidden and was conducting their authority in the open. "Secret Babylon" has lost much of their power mainly because their "secret" is no longer hidden anymore and the Lord has been bringing them down by exposing their secret "shaddow government" way of ruling many countries and their indebting scheme thru the Federal Reserve fiat money control.

To me history is showing this type of Empire who has been ruling for the past 100 years. I don't see it as the RCC nor the puppet USA government or the "apostate protestants" that has the current power. They, Edom's descendance, was so secret that most people still don't know about them.

I don't believe that either I or you can convince the other about the identity of the 2nd beasts of Revelation 13. It is one of these complex topic because of all the confusion and obscurity that the Lord has devised for the purpose to keep us out of His way so He can fulfill all that He promised to accomplish by Himself.

However if you want to continue persuing this off-topic discussion; I would be willing. It is healthy to discuss these things, but afterwards, it is only the Holy Spirit that can direct our studies and thoughts and teach us the truth about this. Very soon, when Jesus will come and His Saints of the Most High will be ruling with Him, this will no longer be a mystery for us. It will be plain as day who is who. Untill that day, we have history, current events, the Bible, and the Holy Spirit to teach us. [/quote]



Elle, I have no problem believing the historical accuracy of most of what you say; however, I must respectfully disagree with how it applies to Bible prophesy.

I agree, we likely won't change each others mind as to symbolic interpretation.
I do believe, you are a sincere, fruitful person, and a very nice lady.

Your slant on current and historic events, things spiritual and temporal is fascinating.
In particular the watch you keep on financial circles is excellent! It is a world I am not overly familiar with and I believe it has a major role in what is coming to pass on this planet.

I appreciate your views and will be watching the threads for your insights.
It is a real pleasure to talk with you!
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/04/15 03:34 PM

Originally Posted By: ProtigalOne
I heard about James Arrabito long before I joined this site. While I am not 100% certain of the validity of Alberto Rivera's testimony, I have no doubt that the SDA denomination has been infiltrated by the Jesuits. It's just too logical a move for them not to have done it.

Tx for confirming and I agree that it is too logical for them not to have done it.

Originally Posted By: ProtigalOne
According to Walter Veith, the Free Masons are a secret puppet of the Jesuits. They specialize in fighting on both sides of a conflict, so it is no surprise that many consider them "enemies" of the Masons. Here is a link to a presentation in which he traces the leadership back to the Black Pope: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MX0GtdVQ26E
To my understanding, there are many factions:Jesuit, Masons, the commitee of 300, the British Royal family, the Rothschilds,Rockefellers, Warburgs, and shifts famiies, and others that are all seperate entities doing their own stuff yet they have the same agenda and that's why they can come into agreement. I also heard that some of the blood of these different factions are often intermix by marriages or are related in some ways generations back. So it is a real spaghetty mess that is realy hard for anyone today to know the truth of whom is on top of the pyramid and calls the shots. It's not for nothing that the Lord gave them the name "Babylon". But I personally don't believe it is the black pope that is on the top like many Chirstian say.

What all these factions have in common is they worship MAN which is the essense of the Luciferian worship. That's why I am starting to see that the image of Rev 13 is MAN that all these factions have no problem to support and worship and are working to make the world worship the same image.

Originally Posted By: proigalone
I agree, it doesn't bother me that the SDA Church has been infiltrated. It is just another reason to check everything by the Bible. Although, I have faith that God has preserved the writings of ALL of His prophets, the writings of Ellen White should also be checked out with Scripture. So far, I have found no discrepancies between the two.

Since "all things, (are) set by the Lord to serve His purpose"(Rom 13)
would it not serve our Father's purpose to preserve intact the messages
He sent to His children through His Prophets, including those He delivered
through Ellen White?

In History the Lord cannonize the OT before Christ 1st coming and again cannonized the NT writings afterwards. The writings of EGW has not been cannonized nor is it in the GCs agenda. I think it is very presumptuous to think that all of EGW writings has been preserved without seeing the same work the Lord has done with OT & NT.

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Have you considered what would motivate infiltrators of the SDA to allow their presence be detected? It would be an absolutely Machiavellian method of sewing the seeds of doubt about the veracity of a major portion of the Spirit of Prophesy, and they wouldn't have to lift a finger.

I see it this way -- The Lord has always provided a lot of reasons for people to neglect their duty to test all things against the Law of Moses which is the foundation of all truth(Is 8:20). Prophets has always been tested against the Law. And also to take note....prophets has to grow into their ministry. They are not without human errors. That's why cannonizing their work is important and was needed in the past. The biggest error prophets do is they bring their own interpretation of the Lord's Word received in the beginning of their ministry. It takes lots of refinement and maturity to come and accept that most of the time the Lord did not provide interpretation. The Lord requires of them to only speak the Word given without adding or substracting to it.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/05/15 12:39 PM

Elle wrote;

"#1. Can I find this in the Bible? There's a discussion here that took place about 7 years ago that was concluded that we cannot prove from the Blble that Sunday is the mark of the beast. "

Blessings Elle,

The mark of the beast is forced Sunday observance.

What we all need to do is find the description of the "beast" in the Bible and discover its identifying characteristics. And when we look into history we only find one institution or church that meets all the identifying marks. This would be the Roman Catholic hierarchy or the Papacy.

Well then, we simply let the Papacy speak for itself throughout history and we find not only the great blasphemy but also the self described mark of her authority; Sunday worship. The Bible clearly tells us that worship is the issue.

So, I don't know why that wasn't handled well in this conversation you mentioned, but, we know what the mark of the beast is.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/05/15 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Elle wrote;

"#1. Can I find this in the Bible? There's a discussion here that took place about 7 years ago that was concluded that we cannot prove from the Blble that Sunday is the mark of the beast. "

Blessings Elle,

The mark of the beast is forced Sunday observance.

What we all need to do is find the description of the "beast" in the Bible and discover its identifying characteristics. And when we look into history we only find one institution or church that meets all the identifying marks. This would be the Roman Catholic hierarchy or the Papacy.

Well then, we simply let the Papacy speak for itself throughout history and we find not only the great blasphemy but also the self described mark of her authority; Sunday worship. The Bible clearly tells us that worship is the issue.

So, I don't know why that wasn't handled well in this conversation you mentioned, but, we know what the mark of the beast is.

You could revive the old discussion Can you prove from the Bible alone that Sunday is the Mark of the Beast? and address it there and present what you know.

Montain Man (a pastor on this Forum) started that discussion and took the position that it cannot be proven.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/05/15 02:57 PM

My comment: Putin recent move in Syria is a Global Changing Card. Notice that this event mark the last Tetrad blood moon. ISIS as Al-queda, are "US" created, funded, trained ... to distabilize the Middle East (an Zionist agenda) so they can take away the sovereignty of the nations in the Middle East, put in place their puppet rulers, bring in their banking system to enslave the population via debts, and create a division between all religions.

This card that Putin recently played has neutralized directly the Zionist agenda. This is a World changing card that will have an tremendous effect politicaly and economicaly.

Notice the section I highlited in red. The writter recognize that it is not a victory over Obama or the US but a "supranational grouping which uses the United States as a battling Ram". This observation has been made by many secular reporters who now understand to their ability the identity of "Mystery(secret) Babylon". Also take note that Russia and China (Kings of the East of Today) are the ones the Lord has chosen to bring down todays Babylonian Empire.

Putin’s Global Game Changer
http://www.globalresearch.ca/putins-global-game-changer/5479292

"Contrary to the expectations of many experts who were predicting a “second Munich” from Vladimir Putin in New York, the Russian president made no grandiose proclamations during his address to the UN General Assembly. In fact, he was outwardly far milder than one might have imagined. By comparison, Obama’s emotional speech, which was replete with strident but unsubstantiated claims, seemed sad, and occasionally even comical. For example, there was a passage about the ouster of Assad, but then less than a day later the US position flip-flopped …

After the speeches, Putin and Obama sat down for a nearly two-hour conversation, after which the US president could not even rouse himself sufficiently to emerge to speak to journalists. The Russian president conducted an exhaustive press conference on his own.

What is the takeaway from those last three days in September, which, according to many observers, lay to rest the idea of a unipolar world?

First of all, the US is making profound changes in its attitude to Poroshenko’s regime in Ukraine, assembling a reserve set of “politicians” and revoking its green light for military action. Incumbent PM Yatsenyuk is more likely to be replaced by Sergey Lyovochkin, former head of ex-president Yanukovych’ administration and memner of “Opposition Bloc”. Given the pacification of Kiev and the Southeast in accordance with the Kremlin’s terms, the US withdrawal from Ukraine – and the withdrawal of Ukraine itself into the shadow of the world’s agenda – the US wager on the “Opposition Bloc” makes perfect sense.

The very next day in Minsk, Aleksandr Zakharchenko and Leonid Kuchma confirmed that weapons of a caliber less than 100 mm. would be pulled back 15 km. behind the front line, which actually signifies an end to the hostilities. For the preceding seven months no one had been able to reach an agreement on this point. At the same time, Kiev admitted that it had committed war crimes in the Donbass: several stories on this topic appeared over the course of a single day in the Ukrainian media, from the admission that Oles Buzina had been killed by commandos from a special forces unit of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, to an acknowledgment of crimes committed by “territorial” battalions. Obviously this would not have happened without an order from the American embassy. To this must be added the resignation of Evelyn Farkas, the Pentagon’s top official overseeing military relations with Russia and Ukraine. Ms. Farkas had held that position for five years. She will officially leave her post in late October. It should be noted that this senior official had insisted on retaliatory measures against Russia’s policy in Ukraine and had also facilitated the provision of financial aid to Kiev.

And all this occurred less than a day after Vladimir Putin’s speech in New York and his meeting with Obama. That means that all these events were the result of a deal. And in fact, these are only the first fruits. Clearly there is more to come. But the trend is clear – the US has acknowledged the legitimacy of Russian claims that Ukraine is within Russia’s sphere of interest.

Second, the situation in and around Syria changed dramatically over the course of one day. The US is no longer insisting on Assad’s resignation. The US is not opposing Russian military involvement in operations against ISIL and is prepared to enter into immediate negotiations with Russia about the formation of a united front against terrorists. Russia’s air force launched strikes on ISIL strongholds after Assad asked Moscow for military assistance, and the Federation Council approved the use of the Russian air force against the terrorists in Syria. That would have been inconceivable even on the morning of Sept. 28. But only a day and a half later this was the reality, which is evidence of the dramatic change in the entire global geopolitical picture.

Time magazine had written about this just the day before.

If Putin can get Obama to go along with his proposal as well, it would mark one of the greatest diplomatic triumphs of his 15 years in power.

This means Russia’s victory is now official. The only question is – victory over whom?


What I mean is – I would like to emphasize that this is not a victory over Obama, as many experts are simplistically trying to present it, but over a powerful supranational grouping, which uses the United States as a battering ram in order to plunge the world into a new Middle Ages. And this group’s reaction to the agreement between Putin and Obama quickly followed. Right out of the blue Hillary Clinton launched into a tirade of criticism against Obama. But she was not lambasting him over agreements with Russia on Syria and Ukraine, as one might have expected, but over a purely domestic issue – ObamaCare.

Leaving aside for the moment the content of his speech, which has already been picked over for quotes, let us try to answer the main question – why did Putin have to address the “international community” at all? Couldn’t he have just published an article in any international media outlet? The answer is very simple – for the same reason he had to help a flock of young Siberian cranes get to where they needed to go. The content of Putin’s New York speech takes a distant second to the psychological component of his message to the leaders of the world community and the global decision-makers in the West. Time will reveal the significance of that. But, looking at how the global picture evolved between Sept. 29 and 30, we can see that Putin really got through to the intended audience for his statements. And he was more than just heard – specific agreements have now been reached with Moscow regarding the first steps for getting out of the quagmire into which the backstage elites have led the world.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/07/15 12:22 AM

Quote:
My comment: Putin recent move in Syria is a Global Changing Card. Notice that this event mark the last Tetrad blood moon.
How did/does this mark the tetrad or vice-a-versa? Is there any relation?


Did you notice in the picture you linked to how the woman had her hand on the man's shoulders? This can be no other than women's ordination in the making!
NOT.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/09/15 05:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
There is an old picture from the 1888 conference having all the men(5 of them) sitting next to Ellen in the front row doing the masson's secret hidden hand symbol.

And look at this picture! http://www.adventistreview.org/church-ne...enical-meetings

Notice how all but one has their hands gripped closed. What does this mean?!!!
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/10/15 08:25 AM

My comment: China's alternative to Babylon's SWIFT system called CIPS(Crossborder Interbank Payment System) went live Thursday.

US dollar gets another paper cut
Oct 09, 2015

By Stephen Jones

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.rqBrky8c.dpuf

"There is an old saying about killing someone with a thousand paper cuts. This has been the Chinese strategy against the US dollar, especially since 2010 when the US congress refused to sign off the on IMF reform package.

Quote:
The latest “cut” is the establishment of China’s alternative to the SWIFT system by which money is wired around the world through the Federal Reserve Bank. It is called the Crossborder Interbank Payment System (CIPS).

THE Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (ICBC) Singapore has cleared a yuan transaction on Thursday under China's long-anticipated international payment system.

ICBC Singapore said that it successfully cleared 35 million yuan (S$7.8 million) on the Crossborder Interbank Payment System (CIPS), China's international payment system which went live on Thursday.

It was for a trade settlement payment from Singapore's Raffemet Pte Ltd to Baosteel Resources in Shanghai, China and the transaction marks the first in Asia to be cleared through the newly launched CIPS, the bank said.
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companie...y-launched-cips

Any time payments are made outside of the SWIFT system, the Fed is unable to collect its world tax on international trade.

By using the SWIFT system to impose sanctions on other countries that the US does not like, the US government has ensured that an alternative system would be established. However, it could only be done by a country strong enough to stand up to the US government. That country is China, the main creditor of the US treasury.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/12/15 04:45 PM

From Elle, 4/11/14 #164231

Russia Announces Decoupling Trade From Dollar
...
Along with the new BRICS(A) currency will come a new international payment settlement system, replacing the SWIFT and IBAN exchanges, thereby breaking the hegemony of the infamous privately owned currency and gold manipulator, the Bank for International Settlement (BIS) in Basle, Switzerland – also called the central bank of all central banks.


BRICS or CIPS? Same or different?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/12/15 05:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Would it be accurate to say if someone wanted to know what Elle believes, consult Jones at gods-kingdom-ministries.net?
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/13/15 03:30 PM


I hope not, Jones teaches that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday as part of the New Covenant:


"The Saturday Sabbath, as I showed, was based upon Passover. The Sunday Sabbath was based upon the presentation of the Son to the Father, followed by Pentecost."

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2010/05-2010/changes-in-the-sabbath-law-part-4/
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/14/15 01:10 AM

Ohhhh. I didn't see that. Hope Elle's not thinking that way.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/14/15 04:31 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Would it be accurate to say if someone wanted to know what Elle believes, consult Jones at gods-kingdom-ministries.net?

I came to my believes by studying scriptures while learning to put heart idols aside if we want to learn the truth.

Of all people here, you know my path as we joined this forum at the same time. You know I have been testing all our doctrines.

I came to most of what I believe today via studying at Adventist Forums before I ever heard of Stephen Jones. The thing Stephen had that I didn't is the understanding of the law via the Spirit of the law-giver(Jesus or Jehovah). However the Lord had me already on that path by keeping the feasts so to come to understand them and other laws with their spiritual meanings.

I have read most of Stephen's books. I do agree with most of his studies. I do take my time to check his source and ponder on the subject myself seeking the Lord's personal revelation about the subject. I continually seek to understand more and continually revisit studies knowing that what we understand today is only skimming the surface.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/14/15 04:34 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
From Elle, 4/11/14 #164231

Russia Announces Decoupling Trade From Dollar
...
Along with the new BRICS(A) currency will come a new international payment settlement system, replacing the SWIFT and IBAN exchanges, thereby breaking the hegemony of the infamous privately owned currency and gold manipulator, the Bank for International Settlement (BIS) in Basle, Switzerland – also called the central bank of all central banks.


BRICS or CIPS? Same or different?

-CIPS system (alternative to SWIFT) is created by the Chinese.
-The Chinese are part of the BRICS.
-The Chinese are the leading opposition to Mystery Babylon.
-The Chinese are US creditor as they own most of US Treasury debt.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/14/15 05:08 AM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne

I hope not, Jones teaches that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday as part of the New Covenant:


"The Saturday Sabbath, as I showed, was based upon Passover. The Sunday Sabbath was based upon the presentation of the Son to the Father, followed by Pentecost."

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2010/05-2010/changes-in-the-sabbath-law-part-4/

I know what Stephen Jones knows about the Sabbath and I know what we(an SDA) know about the Sabbath. Sorry to say this and no offence meant. I can say this because I long pondered to understand about the Sabbath(Weekly,7 Feast Sabbath days, Sabbath Year, and the Jubilee) for the last 5 years. With all that I have learn...I can say with confidence that Stephen Jones knows more about the Sabbath than any SDA -- including me. It doesn't mean I agree on everything he says about it. Nor does this mean that his understanding is full neither, or that the Lord finished revealing truth about the Sabbath.

There is some truth in this statement : "Jones teaches that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday as part of the New Covenant" But it is not all the truth. I don't think this discussion is the place to talk about it, but would be glad to expand on it in another discussion.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/14/15 01:12 PM

Since, the vast majority of forum members, and SDA Church members, believe that the false claim of Sunday sacredness vs the divinely ordained holy Sabbath will be the focal point and ultimate test of faithfulness to God, in the final battle between Christ and Satan. Yes, I believe it merits further discussion.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/15/15 12:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Would it be accurate to say if someone wanted to know what Elle believes, consult Jones at gods-kingdom-ministries.net?

I came to my believes by studying scriptures while learning to put heart idols aside if we want to learn the truth.

Of all people here, you know my path as we joined this forum at the same time. You know I have been testing all our doctrines.

I came to most of what I believe today via studying at Adventist Forums before I ever heard of Stephen Jones.
Didn't realize we came here about the same time.

But note you said you get your stuff at forums, not from the church.

Quote:
I have read most of Stephen's books. I do agree with most of his studies.
Hence...."Would it be accurate to say if someone wanted to know what Elle believes, consult Jones at gods-kingdom-ministries.net?"

Quote:
I do take my time to check his source and ponder on the subject myself seeking the Lord's personal revelation about the subject. I continually seek to understand more and continually revisit studies knowing that what we understand today is only skimming the surface.
And the Lord gives you personal revelation through the use of forums, right?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/15/15 12:58 AM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Since, the vast majority of forum members, and SDA Church members, believe that the false claim of Sunday sacredness vs the divinely ordained holy Sabbath will be the focal point and ultimate test of faithfulness to God, in the final battle between Christ and Satan. Yes, I believe it merits further discussion.

Originally Posted By: Elle
There is some truth in this statement : "Jones teaches that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday as part of the New Covenant" But it is not all the truth.

Sometimes,
hopes are dashed.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/15/15 06:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
There is some truth in this statement : "Jones teaches that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday as part of the New Covenant" But it is not all the truth. I don't think this discussion is the place to talk about it, but would be glad to expand on it in another discussion.

The Sabbath was changed to Sunday? I think what you really meant to say was that the first day of the week became Monday. Sunday would therefore be the seventh day. In Islam, the first day of the week is Saturday. For the Jews, Sunday. Paul says, "One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind." (Rom. 14:5)

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Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/15/15 02:47 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Since, the vast majority of forum members, and SDA Church members, believe that the false claim of Sunday sacredness vs the divinely ordained holy Sabbath will be the focal point and ultimate test of faithfulness to God, in the final battle between Christ and Satan. Yes, I believe it merits further discussion.

Originally Posted By: Elle
There is some truth in this statement : "Jones teaches that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday as part of the New Covenant" But it is not all the truth.

Sometimes,
hopes are dashed.



Alas, so it would seem...


Elle, if you would like to discuss this further, perhaps let everyone know how you came to believe what you believe, maybe we should start another thread?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/15/15 04:18 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Since, the vast majority of forum members, and SDA Church members, believe that the false claim of Sunday sacredness vs the divinely ordained holy Sabbath will be the focal point and ultimate test of faithfulness to God, in the final battle between Christ and Satan. Yes, I believe it merits further discussion.

Originally Posted By: Elle
There is some truth in this statement : "Jones teaches that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday as part of the New Covenant" But it is not all the truth.

Sometimes,
hopes are dashed.



Alas, so it would seem...


Elle, if you would like to discuss this further, perhaps let everyone know how you came to believe what you believe, maybe we should start another thread?


Yes start another thread. You start it, as a study, the way you want it. For sure, I will share from the Bible whatever you or another haven't brought forth yet concerning all the Sabbaths. Also, we need to look at all the 8th day laws that is also found in scriptures. The 8th days laws are as important as the Sabbaths for all is part of His plan. We are to live by ALL the words that proceeds from the Lord's mouth and not by some that we have cherry picked.

What I see from scriptures is there is a place and purpose for both the Sabbath laws(weekly, 7 Feasts Sabbath days, Yearly Sabbath, the Jubilee Sabbath) and the 8th days laws(circumcision, presenting the priesthood, wave sheaf, Pentecost, etc...) Anyone who ignores any of the Sabbath laws or any of the 8th days laws .. are missing important pieces of the puzzle and will come short in their understanding and application of it in their life(=sin or =lawlessness).

Also we need to provide a link of the new discussion here so that people can follow it if they want to.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/15/15 08:01 PM

8th? I thought we were talking about the Sabbath being changed to Sunday.

But if you are going to talk about other things and separate and divide and rearrange things, don't forget 1st day laws. Neither forget 2nd day laws, and 3rd day laws, and 4th day laws, and 5th day laws, and 6th day laws, and 9th day laws (which is really the 10th day in the case).
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/15/15 11:46 PM


I have started another thread for this discussion in the Bible Study forum.
Here is the link:

http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=177457
Posted By: Rosangela

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/16/15 12:15 AM

Quote:
The Sabbath was changed to Sunday? I think what you really meant to say was that the first day of the week became Monday. Sunday would therefore be the seventh day. In Islam, the first day of the week is Saturday. For the Jews, Sunday.

This is not correct at all. In Islam, and for all peoples who have a seven-day week, the first day of the week is Sunday, and the seventh is Saturday.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/16/15 01:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Rosangela
This is not correct at all. In Islam, and for all peoples who have a seven-day week, the first day of the week is Sunday, and the seventh is Saturday. Islamic Calendar

Many local people believe as you do, unaware of the practice of international diplomacy and commerce.
  • "The ISO week date system is a leap week calendar system that is part of the ISO 8601 date and time standard. The system is used (mainly) in government and business for fiscal years, as well as in timekeeping. The system specifies a week year atop the Gregorian calendar by defining a notation for ordinal weeks of the year."
    ...
  • "The ISO week calendar relies on the Gregorian calendar, which it augments, to define the new year day (Monday of week 01). As a result, leap weeks are spread across the 400-year cycle in a complex, seemingly random pattern. There is no simple algorithm to determine whether a year has 53 weeks without tabular lookup. Most calendar reform proposals using leap week calendars are simpler in this regard, although they may choose a different leap cycle."
    ...
  • "Not all parts of the world consider the week to begin with Monday. For example, in some Muslim countries, the normal work week begins on Saturday, while in Israel it begins on Sunday. In the US, although the work week is usually defined to start on Monday, the week itself is often considered to start on Sunday."
-- Source: ISO

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/17/15 03:13 AM

The Keshe Foundation
by Stephen Jones

"...
Today the Keshe Foundation is set to offer FREE ENERGY to the world.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/

It was founded by Dr. Mehran Tavakoli Kesh, an Iranian scientist who has discovered a simple way to use energy through plasma, rather than electricity itself as a source of energy. One simple devise can be used to power a home, another for a car, and even whole cities. He says that the device is so simple that a child could make it.

He is giving this to the world today, October 16, 2015, at a peace conference in Rome. Simultaneously, he is having his associates give one to the leaders of many nations, including China, Russia, and the USA. He is also giving 1000 units to individual poor people in various countries, including the Philippines—where it appears that he is manufacturing those units.

Further, he is freely publishing the blueprints for all to make these devices, so that it cannot be suppressed by the powers that be (or were).

The meeting in Rome today invites the ambassadors of all nations to attend and to sign his Peace Treaty in exchange for free energy. However, whether they sign this or not, the free energy is being given to the world today. Will the Keshe Foundation actually succeed in doing this? Well, they have taken extraordinary steps to ensure that no power can stop its publication. He says that if anything happens to him, others have instructions to carry on with the plan. In fact, on the link above, it appears that these blueprints have already been posted at the bottom of the page.

Here is a link that was posted on September 24, 2015, telling of this plan to release free energy devices on October 16. It is long, but I think the first 48 minutes will give you everything you need to know. In it he says, “The course of mankind has changed.” The Keshe Foundation plans to produce 1 million units by November or December and teach many others to manufacture these units as quickly as possible.

youtu.be/BM8wuqPmVBg

He says that this free energy device will cause chaos and collapse of all industries that rely upon the sale of conventional energy—whether oil, gas, electricity, coal, or nuclear energy—because they will no longer be needed. Pollution problems will end quickly.

Excerpts are as follows, in his own slightly flawed English:

Quote:
“In the next twelve months, we will see the collapse of major organizations and connected pharmaceuticals and oil industries—without a shadow of a doubt. All these monopolies of health, monopolies of energy has finished. And the beauty of it is the Keshe Foundation with thousands of supporters around the world, more or less in every nation, will do it for your nation. You don’t need us. We do not ask to send any money to Keshe Foundation; we do not ask to sign any non-disclosure agreements or secrecy agreements. We do not even sign copyright agreements.

“Governments have no control… It will bring absolute chaos for governments, for what they have set up to control. Because with this blue box, they have lost full control. There is no control. There is no possibility to change the course of humanity, because hundreds of thousands already know how to build it.

“You will be shocked when you open the inside of it. It is so simple… There is no moving parts.”


A century ago the free energy discoveries of Nicola Tesla were suppressed in order to protect the interests of JP Morgan and other Babylonian oligarchs, who had gained control of the people largely through the control of energy. It appears that as of today, this suppression is being ended by another brilliant scientist, this time from Iran.

Economic Chaos

If the plans of Dr. Keshe succeed today, there is little doubt that his free energy device will cause chaos and collapse in energy stocks. The only real question is how long it will take. If the news media were to publicize the conference today, then I would expect to see the collapse occur immediately. But the mainstream news media probably will not report this until they are forced by internet publicity to do so.

...
Regardless of when this market collapse occurs, we should be prepared as much as possible. Those who hold shares of stock in energy will probably suffer the most, but a collapse in that area will affect banking stocks and most other areas as well. For the average person who owns nothing in the stock market, they will lose the least, and when they are able to obtain their own free energy device, they will be the greatest beneficiaries in this transition.

Under Babylon’s system of expensive energy (to support its oligarchs), the earth strains to feed its population. Babylon calls it overpopulation, but the truth is that the problem has been caused by their monopolistic control of energy that makes production too expensive for many people to buy food. In the Kingdom of God that is coming, the earth will be able to support many times the current population with no problem at all.

It appears that in the coming year we will enter the chaos of change as the world adjusts to the new reality brought to us by a Persian.

Sudden Destruction

Paul wrote in 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 3,

2 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. 3 While they are saying, “Peace and Safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like birth pangs upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

It is interesting that the release of the free energy devices is set in the context of a peace conference in Rome. The Keshe Foundation home page advertises “Free Energy in exchange for world peace.”

http://www.keshefoundation.org/

Most of us have been accustomed to thinking of Paul’s statement in negative terms. Men have taught that the Antichrist will come and make a peace treaty with Israel in the middle of the “Great Tribulation,” after which will come “destruction.” But if the events today fulfill this prophecy (at least on one level), then it could be said that the Keshe Foundation is offering world peace by giving the world a free energy device, which will then bring chaos and collapse to the Babylonian world system.

Further, if this proves to be the case, then today would mark the start of the “birth pangs” of the Age to come, which no one can escape. Paul goes on to tell the believers in verses 4-7,

4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day should overtake you like a thief; 5 For you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; 6 so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober. 7 For those who sleep do their sleeping at night, and those who get drunk get drunk at night.

The “rapture” doctrine teaches that the “thief” is Christ coming to snatch Christians off the earth. But in biblical times, the metaphor referred to a band of thieves who would ride into town while men were sleeping and plunder it with destruction. (Note the story: Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves.) So Paul did not treat this thief as a burglar quietly stealing something while men sleep, but rather as an Ali Baba who comes suddenly with great noise and destruction.

If we may apply these verses to the acts of the Kesh Foundation, we may find comfort from Paul. If we understand what is going on and are watchful, alert, and sober, not being drunk on the wine of Babylon, then God will take care of us no matter what the situation is around us. Paul continues in 1 Thessalonians 5:8-11,

8 8 But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we are awake or sleep, we may live together with Him. 11 Therefore encourage one another, and build up one another, just as you also are doing.

Always keep in mind that the chaos of Babylon’s collapse is not designed to destroy God’s people, but to set them free. This was true in Daniel’s day, when the original city of Babylon fell; it is the same today when Mystery Babylon collapses.

So be encouraged.

- See more at: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.v1Jf3OAx.dpuf
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/17/15 04:30 AM

My comment: Last week I read somewhere that China approved the TPP trade alliance that Obama was pushing secretly -- as long as they(TPP) respect international trading laws. I can't find that article anymore. However, I thought that was very fair of China to have done so by supporting any nations to form their own trading partners.

To refresh your memory about what the TPP partnership consist, here's a portion of post#159622 on page 25 that describes it :
Quote:
Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a deal that currently Obama is trying to make with a handfull of International corporation to set the corporation the ability to create a new set of rules regulating 12 countries(US, Canada, Australia, Japan, S.Korea, etc...).

It is not a free trade deal, but the reality it is a giant monster give away deal that gives the corporation the ability to sue the countries for regulation they do not like. It would allow the corporation monopoly to expand.

In brief the TPP would sacrifice whatever counrties sovereignty left, internet freedom, and public health all in the name in helping private corporation.

This deal is being set almost entirely in secret. Notice that the media doesn't say much about this as they want this to go through without the people knowing and resisting it.


Even though the TPP doesn't have "pure motives"...they need to be allowed to show their intention. However, if they abuse international trading laws, then I suspect that China and other countries will reprimend the TPP.

The article below gives an opinion what could be the TPP true intention....whatever it may be ... I do not believe it will work. I do think the author of the article is correct in believing that mass protests will arise within the TPP countries once the people learn what their government has done. (That is if these 12 countries government can succeed to pass the TPP agreement as it is still not passed in the US.) I think the people will reject it as it was rejected by the people of Malaysia.

The Secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership: Washington’s Strategy to Isolate China

By Timothy Alexander Guzman
Global Research, October 15, 2015
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-secreti...e-china/5482252
Quote:
“When more than 95 percent of our potential customers live outside our borders, we can’t let countries like China write the rules of the global economy” - U.S. President Barack H. Obama

The secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) is an agreement that serves numerous purposes; one of them is to contain China’s rising economic power in the Asia-Pacific region. The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) who normally advises Washington’s insiders on foreign policy matters produced a report titled ‘Revising U.S. Grand Strategy Toward China’ written by Robert D. Blackwill and Ashley J. Tellis which clearly states that “China represents and will remain the most significant competitor to the United States for decades to come” and that “the likelihood of a long-term strategic rivalry between Beijing and Washington is high.” Blackwill and Tellis recommend that the U.S. Congress “Deliver on the Trans-Pacific Partnership, … as a geoeconomic answer to growing Chinese economic power and geopolitical coercion in Asia.” It is a clear message to China. The main-stream media is also on board with the TPP agreement, for example The Washington Post published an article titled ‘The Trans-Pacific Partnership is a trade deal worth celebrating’, and why is the TPP worth celebrating? “By knitting the U.S. and Japanese economies together in their first free-trade deal — and binding both of them closer to rising Asian nations — the TPP would create a counterweight to China in East Asia”. Time magazine also had a headline that said it all ‘Pacific Trade Deal Is Good for the U.S. and Obama’s Legacy’ which makes its case that a “U.S. presence” will protect its partners from any perceived threats from China:

But Asia is an exception, because deeper involvement there can create economic opportunities (like TPP), and because China’s neighbors are eager for a lasting U.S. presence to protect them from over-dependence for growth and security on China

China was left out of the deal intentionally (not to say that China would benefit from the deal in any way), the reason is that the U.S. wants an alliance of nations than can counter China’s rise to an economic powerhouse. The TPP is meant to isolate China while the U.S. expands its presence in the Pacific (Part of the Pentagon’s ‘Full Spectrum Dominance’) turning its partners in the TPP trade deal into cheap labor colonies without rights that will serve U.S. interests.

Can China counter the TPP?

RT news reported that China can unite to counter the TPP with Europe which accounts for “€1 billion in trade daily, while bilateral trade in goods reached €428.1 billion in 2013.” According to the RT news report:

This raises questions, whether China and other countries are ready to unite to counter-balance the Pacific Rim pact. “China and Europe may finally look at each other and find some commonalities that they were unaware of before,” said Alicia Garcia Herrero, chief Asia-Pacific economist at Natixis, in a report quoted by CNBC. “China expressed interest to the EU commencing negotiations on a bilateral FTA [free trade agreement] when President Xi Jinping visited the EU in March 2014. At the time, the EU recognized this to be a desirable long-term objective rather than something that would be negotiated in the near future,” CNBC quotes Rajiv Biswas, Asia-Pacific chief economist at HIS as saying

RT news also reported that “another way for China to oppose TPP is boosting its BRICS participation. Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa comprise about 30 percent of world’s GDP at the moment in PPP terms and are projected to increase to as much as 45 percent by 2030.” Which rightly so, allows China to bypass the TPP trade zone.

Malaysia’s Internal Opposition to the TPP

There are already disagreements within countries such as Malaysia where former Prime Minister; Dr. Mahathir Mohamad had recently said that the TPP is a “very bad” agreement. According to The Malaysian Insider (www.themalaysianinsider.com) “Anti-TPP lobbyists said the agreement has removed the country’s control over policymaking and put the government at risk of being sued if it favoured public interests over foreign investors.” This means that if an environmental accident occurred and people were injured or killed, the Malaysian government cannot sue the corporations or governments involved. Dr. Mohamad explains “Let’s say a few countries are into mining and it pollutes the environment and we stop it, they (the companies) can sue governments for loss of future profits” the report said.

The TPP is a corporate takeover that will ease rules that normally protects working-class people and labor unions. The TPP will offshore jobs from the U.S. and Canada to low-wage nations like Malaysia, Mexico, Peru and Vietnam.

The agreement also eliminates health, safety and environmental regulations and favors corporations such as Monsanto over food safety issues. The TPP will empower pharmaceutical corporations that will expand its monopolistic control over its manufacturing practices which will eventually increase the price of medicine. The TPP also threatens internet privacy and the list goes on. However, as bad as the TPP is, China is the big enchilada. It is important to remember that the U.S. holds the largest debt in world history while China is the creditor nation that buys U.S. debt (although it has been dumping U.S. dollars at unprecedented levels) regardless, Washington still pushes this ludicrous deal that only makes matters worse in terms of diplomacy. The TPP serves multiple purposes; one of them is to expand an economic war that will repel China’s influence in the region. All countries that signed on to the TPP should keep in mind what Russian President Vladimir Putin once said “Washington doesn’t want partners. Washington wants vassals.”

More information on the TPP will surface in the months to come, but so far the available information we do have has one specific goal, and that is to contain China at the expense of less developed nations. The TPP is about the U.S. dominating the Asia-Pacific through trade agreements accompanied by its political and military presence to ensure that the multi-national corporations continue to make profits while pushing the Chinese dragon into the corner. My opinion is that the TPP will fail. The Malaysian people are one of the first to oppose this agreement. My prediction is that all of the governments that signed on to the agreement will face mass protests within their own borders, and that will be a positive step towards defeating the TPP once and for all.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/17/15 10:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
The Keshe Foundation
by Stephen Jones

"...
Today the Keshe Foundation is set to offer FREE ENERGY to the world.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/

It was founded by Dr. Mehran Tavakoli Kesh, an Iranian scientist who has discovered a simple way to use energy through plasma, rather than electricity itself as a source of energy. One simple devise can be used to power a home, another for a car, and even whole cities. He says that the device is so simple that a child could make it.

He is giving this to the world today, October 16, 2015, at a peace conference in Rome. Simultaneously, he is having his associates give one to the leaders of many nations, including China, Russia, and the USA. He is also giving 1000 units to individual poor people in various countries, including the Philippines—where it appears that he is manufacturing those units.

Further, he is freely publishing the blueprints for all to make these devices, so that it cannot be suppressed by the powers that be (or were).

The meeting in Rome today invites the ambassadors of all nations to attend and to sign his Peace Treaty in exchange for free energy. However, whether they sign this or not, the free energy is being given to the world today. Will the Keshe Foundation actually succeed in doing this? Well, they have taken extraordinary steps to ensure that no power can stop its publication. He says that if anything happens to him, others have instructions to carry on with the plan. In fact, on the link above, it appears that these blueprints have already been posted at the bottom of the page.

Here is a link that was posted on September 24, 2015, telling of this plan to release free energy devices on October 16. It is long, but I think the first 48 minutes will give you everything you need to know. In it he says, “The course of mankind has changed.” The Keshe Foundation plans to produce 1 million units by November or December and teach many others to manufacture these units as quickly as possible.

youtu.be/BM8wuqPmVBg

He says that this free energy device will cause chaos and collapse of all industries that rely upon the sale of conventional energy—whether oil, gas, electricity, coal, or nuclear energy—because they will no longer be needed. Pollution problems will end quickly.

Excerpts are as follows, in his own slightly flawed English:

Quote:
“In the next twelve months, we will see the collapse of major organizations and connected pharmaceuticals and oil industries—without a shadow of a doubt. All these monopolies of health, monopolies of energy has finished. And the beauty of it is the Keshe Foundation with thousands of supporters around the world, more or less in every nation, will do it for your nation. You don’t need us. We do not ask to send any money to Keshe Foundation; we do not ask to sign any non-disclosure agreements or secrecy agreements. We do not even sign copyright agreements.

“Governments have no control… It will bring absolute chaos for governments, for what they have set up to control. Because with this blue box, they have lost full control. There is no control. There is no possibility to change the course of humanity, because hundreds of thousands already know how to build it.

“You will be shocked when you open the inside of it. It is so simple… There is no moving parts.”


A century ago the free energy discoveries of Nicola Tesla were suppressed in order to protect the interests of JP Morgan and other Babylonian oligarchs, who had gained control of the people largely through the control of energy. It appears that as of today, this suppression is being ended by another brilliant scientist, this time from Iran.

Economic Chaos

If the plans of Dr. Keshe succeed today, there is little doubt that his free energy device will cause chaos and collapse in energy stocks. The only real question is how long it will take. If the news media were to publicize the conference today, then I would expect to see the collapse occur immediately. But the mainstream news media probably will not report this until they are forced by internet publicity to do so.

...
Regardless of when this market collapse occurs, we should be prepared as much as possible. Those who hold shares of stock in energy will probably suffer the most, but a collapse in that area will affect banking stocks and most other areas as well. For the average person who owns nothing in the stock market, they will lose the least, and when they are able to obtain their own free energy device, they will be the greatest beneficiaries in this transition.

Under Babylon’s system of expensive energy (to support its oligarchs), the earth strains to feed its population. Babylon calls it overpopulation, but the truth is that the problem has been caused by their monopolistic control of energy that makes production too expensive for many people to buy food. In the Kingdom of God that is coming, the earth will be able to support many times the current population with no problem at all.

It appears that in the coming year we will enter the chaos of change as the world adjusts to the new reality brought to us by a Persian.

Sudden Destruction

Paul wrote in 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 3,

2 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. 3 While they are saying, “Peace and Safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like birth pangs upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

It is interesting that the release of the free energy devices is set in the context of a peace conference in Rome. The Keshe Foundation home page advertises “Free Energy in exchange for world peace.”

http://www.keshefoundation.org/

Most of us have been accustomed to thinking of Paul’s statement in negative terms. Men have taught that the Antichrist will come and make a peace treaty with Israel in the middle of the “Great Tribulation,” after which will come “destruction.” But if the events today fulfill this prophecy (at least on one level), then it could be said that the Keshe Foundation is offering world peace by giving the world a free energy device, which will then bring chaos and collapse to the Babylonian world system.

Further, if this proves to be the case, then today would mark the start of the “birth pangs” of the Age to come, which no one can escape. Paul goes on to tell the believers in verses 4-7,

4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day should overtake you like a thief; 5 For you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; 6 so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober. 7 For those who sleep do their sleeping at night, and those who get drunk get drunk at night.

The “rapture” doctrine teaches that the “thief” is Christ coming to snatch Christians off the earth. But in biblical times, the metaphor referred to a band of thieves who would ride into town while men were sleeping and plunder it with destruction. (Note the story: Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves.) So Paul did not treat this thief as a burglar quietly stealing something while men sleep, but rather as an Ali Baba who comes suddenly with great noise and destruction.

If we may apply these verses to the acts of the Kesh Foundation, we may find comfort from Paul. If we understand what is going on and are watchful, alert, and sober, not being drunk on the wine of Babylon, then God will take care of us no matter what the situation is around us. Paul continues in 1 Thessalonians 5:8-11,

8 8 But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we are awake or sleep, we may live together with Him. 11 Therefore encourage one another, and build up one another, just as you also are doing.

Always keep in mind that the chaos of Babylon’s collapse is not designed to destroy God’s people, but to set them free. This was true in Daniel’s day, when the original city of Babylon fell; it is the same today when Mystery Babylon collapses.

So be encouraged.

- See more at: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.v1Jf3OAx.dpuf





Umm, Elle, I really wonder if you should possibly reconsider your faith in "God's Kingdom Ministries and the teachings of Stephen Jones?

If he is directing his members to this Keshe person, perhaps you should check out some of Keshe's claims:


"Mehran Tavakoli Keshe announces he is Messiah"

The following three-page declaration titled "In My name", with his signature and date on the bottom of each page, was released on April 18, 2014 (Good Friday).

Here is a link to the PDF where his signature can be seen:

http://pesn.com/2014/04/20/9602473_Mehra...--18.4.2014.PDF


"In My Name"

"I had to come in the body of the man on this planet and live amongst you the life of the man to understand the way the man has created his misery and so much injustice from the time of his creation for himself and for his fellow men to obtain and hold to nothing but the mirage of the nothingness for his so called life and its physical illusive possessions.

Where, we made all resources of the universe available to him to live in comfort and peace on this planet and among themselves in their time on this planet, that when they are mature intellectually and spiritually (in time the man matures enough), for the tribe of the man to join and unify with the rest of the creation of the creator in the universe.

In this process of maturity, the man chose the path of greed and injustice and killing of not just animals, but of his own kind, and now he has become falsely proud of how many he can kill with one tool and weapon or his false sense of power of control.

Killing and destruction of life has never been part of our teachings and works anywhere in the universe and this shall never be for race and nor shall be from now on this planet or anywhere else in the universe.

To change the course of the life of the man from this wrongful path, we have sent you in so many ways and different forms, different orders and guidance through our messengers of the past.

You have all ignored all our ways to correct your ways, and now you as the race of the man have reached a point that for every action you only think in one way and that is destruction and war.

Today and with this pen, I as the Messiah and I whom took his time to be amongst you, to learn about your shortfalls and false lives, for me to be able to understand your problems, I spent over 55 years with you, worked your ways to be able to help and guide you out of this life of the jungle of this planet, I call up on you to lay down all arms and all thoughts of greed and misconducts and killings.

I chose today to declare my position and status as the creator in the Soul and in the physical body of the man as I am and have chosen to be in, to be amongst you and call up on all the men of this Blue planet and the wild village of the earth, to accept my call for peace and to change your wrongful path, individually, and collectively as the human race for you to be able to live [in] paradise on earth and in the universe.

My call to you, the human race is simple, I have shown you in the past 9 years how to satisfy all your earthly needs with simple methods, and I have written books in simple language that all can understand the principles of the creation as is and not as man has made it to be.

I have shown you how to make food from the air, and I have shown you how to create energy and motion using the same systems and knowledge, that through the creation and production of these needs of the man, one does not harm any creation of mine and that he can live in peace and tranquility amongst the rest of this planets' beings and in the universal community that the men are ready to enter into.

Now; my call goes today (the time of the killing of the son of God) to all men and women and children of this planet, that to halt all these madness of the brain of the man of killing and destruction as a solution to solve and attain earthly and others possessions, and for the Man to lay down all tools of destruction and murder, irrespective of who you are, which religion leader you are the leaders of or which religion and path of belief you follow, and which sector of this planet you think you are the ruler of or you live in.

The job of you, the religious leaders is to guide the man to peace and prosperity, and not to make palaces of shame and dishonesty and protecting those whom have done wrong to other fellow men.

It is our command and wish that you as religious, nations and tribes leaders of regions, nations and cults, first to order as of today for the men whom follow our command through your Churches and Mosques or temples and armies to lay down their arms, and as of today to be of the greatest of sins for any man to be trained or to carry or to be forced the use of any arms, that through this tool and through your guidance, it is to be forbidding the use of killing tools that the man finds new ways and the logical ways of finding peaceful solution for himself and his race, at the time when he does not agree with the given condition.

I do not offer you a reward for following this command, as this is our wish and our wish shall be adhered to with our work through the souls of the men, but in reality in doing so, man will allow himself to enter the universal community, which the greed and the war has no meaning, and with this act, then man can have and will live a life of happiness and fulfillment according to his intelligence and needs anywhere he might be in the universe.

So I call on this day to the world, religious and scientific leaders, to come together and sign the universe peace treaty, which we have sent out to mankind as prelude to this days' declaration in the past two years and with this, signing themselves and their nation and followers to accept this treaty and put an end to all wars and acts of aggression and killing, which have been going on for thousands of years on this planet.

The time of punishment and reward to force the man to submission to go in the right path in his life is over, from this point on, it is the decision of each soul to decide on one path, and that is the path of peace and tranquility and fairness.

If not done so from this day on, and if the leaders of this planet be it religious, tribal or nations refuse to follow this command, your follower rejection of our will, shall lead you to demise of your followers and your nation, and finally I shall make from the man the tribe with the belief in one point and that is one nation on this planet, and the one belief that there shall be no more war.

There are no lines on the ground of this planet or anywhere in the universe to separate races and creations from each other, that with this unity for all men leaves him not only as one body but as one nation and as one creation and one creator to live his life in the universe in peace.

You as children of Adam have suffered enough in the hand of your own wrong doings and others, and now you receive the love of your creator to guide you and protect you in this short path of adjustment and reunion with the rest of the creations in the world of creation. Those whom shall reject my wish, they shall see to their own demise through their rejection by their own fellow men, whom understand the reality of the creation and this wish.

Those who follow our simple command and enter the universal order; they shall see the beauty of the creation with their own conscious and some with their own physical eyes. My love and gratitude to all men and I being so sorry to let you to suffer so long without intervention to help you, but in fact you needed this time in the nursery of the earth to learn and mature.

Now it is the time to guide you and unite this child of the Adam and his family to the rest of the family of the universe and as a perfect child and a peaceful and loving child who is ready to enter the Kingdome of the creators' larger family. I welcome you as the creator into your true dimension of intelligence and love.

Mehran (Mehran Tavakoli Keshe)

(The possessor of love)"




The following link is to Keshe's LiveStreamed workshop of Friday April 18, 2014.
At 108.00, he claims to be the creator of humanity, at 108.20, he claims to be the Messiah we have been praying for!


http://original.livestream.com/keshework...ource=lslibrary


I have visited his site and some others with information about his "power generator". Keshe has been selling them in advance of production since at least 2012. It appears that the preorders have not been delivered.

On his LiveStream, he explains that his "power generator" does not function very well as a single unit and multiple "generators" must be hooked up, so that they can enhance each others performance? His site has lots of mysterious looking gadgets that do not seem to have any function: a needle coated with "nanos", described as not for human use???

An acquaintance of Keshe's posted that he is wanted in Britain on some sort of fraud charge...


Elle, I won't belabour the point by quoting any of the numerous biblical warnings of "false prophets and false Messiahs". I'm sure you know them as well as I do.

It really does appear that Stephen Jones and the God's Kingdom Ministries site are spreading extremely false teachings. I urge you to carefully reconsider any doctrines you may have gleaned from them.


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/18/15 02:21 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Originally Posted By: Elle
The Keshe Foundation
by Stephen Jones

"...
Today the Keshe Foundation is set to offer FREE ENERGY to the world.

http://www.keshefoundation.org/

It was founded by Dr. Mehran Tavakoli Kesh, an Iranian scientist who has discovered a simple way to use energy through plasma, rather than electricity itself as a source of energy. One simple devise can be used to power a home, another for a car, and even whole cities. He says that the device is so simple that a child could make it.

He is giving this to the world today, October 16, 2015, at a peace conference in Rome. Simultaneously, he is having his associates give one to the leaders of many nations, including China, Russia, and the USA. He is also giving 1000 units to individual poor people in various countries, including the Philippines—where it appears that he is manufacturing those units.

Further, he is freely publishing the blueprints for all to make these devices, so that it cannot be suppressed by the powers that be (or were).

The meeting in Rome today invites the ambassadors of all nations to attend and to sign his Peace Treaty in exchange for free energy. However, whether they sign this or not, the free energy is being given to the world today. Will the Keshe Foundation actually succeed in doing this? Well, they have taken extraordinary steps to ensure that no power can stop its publication. He says that if anything happens to him, others have instructions to carry on with the plan. In fact, on the link above, it appears that these blueprints have already been posted at the bottom of the page.

Here is a link that was posted on September 24, 2015, telling of this plan to release free energy devices on October 16. It is long, but I think the first 48 minutes will give you everything you need to know. In it he says, “The course of mankind has changed.” The Keshe Foundation plans to produce 1 million units by November or December and teach many others to manufacture these units as quickly as possible.

youtu.be/BM8wuqPmVBg

He says that this free energy device will cause chaos and collapse of all industries that rely upon the sale of conventional energy—whether oil, gas, electricity, coal, or nuclear energy—because they will no longer be needed. Pollution problems will end quickly.

Excerpts are as follows, in his own slightly flawed English:

Quote:
“In the next twelve months, we will see the collapse of major organizations and connected pharmaceuticals and oil industries—without a shadow of a doubt. All these monopolies of health, monopolies of energy has finished. And the beauty of it is the Keshe Foundation with thousands of supporters around the world, more or less in every nation, will do it for your nation. You don’t need us. We do not ask to send any money to Keshe Foundation; we do not ask to sign any non-disclosure agreements or secrecy agreements. We do not even sign copyright agreements.

“Governments have no control… It will bring absolute chaos for governments, for what they have set up to control. Because with this blue box, they have lost full control. There is no control. There is no possibility to change the course of humanity, because hundreds of thousands already know how to build it.

“You will be shocked when you open the inside of it. It is so simple… There is no moving parts.”


A century ago the free energy discoveries of Nicola Tesla were suppressed in order to protect the interests of JP Morgan and other Babylonian oligarchs, who had gained control of the people largely through the control of energy. It appears that as of today, this suppression is being ended by another brilliant scientist, this time from Iran.

Economic Chaos

If the plans of Dr. Keshe succeed today, there is little doubt that his free energy device will cause chaos and collapse in energy stocks. The only real question is how long it will take. If the news media were to publicize the conference today, then I would expect to see the collapse occur immediately. But the mainstream news media probably will not report this until they are forced by internet publicity to do so.

...
Regardless of when this market collapse occurs, we should be prepared as much as possible. Those who hold shares of stock in energy will probably suffer the most, but a collapse in that area will affect banking stocks and most other areas as well. For the average person who owns nothing in the stock market, they will lose the least, and when they are able to obtain their own free energy device, they will be the greatest beneficiaries in this transition.

Under Babylon’s system of expensive energy (to support its oligarchs), the earth strains to feed its population. Babylon calls it overpopulation, but the truth is that the problem has been caused by their monopolistic control of energy that makes production too expensive for many people to buy food. In the Kingdom of God that is coming, the earth will be able to support many times the current population with no problem at all.

It appears that in the coming year we will enter the chaos of change as the world adjusts to the new reality brought to us by a Persian.

Sudden Destruction

Paul wrote in 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 3,

2 For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. 3 While they are saying, “Peace and Safety!” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like birth pangs upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

It is interesting that the release of the free energy devices is set in the context of a peace conference in Rome. The Keshe Foundation home page advertises “Free Energy in exchange for world peace.”

http://www.keshefoundation.org/

Most of us have been accustomed to thinking of Paul’s statement in negative terms. Men have taught that the Antichrist will come and make a peace treaty with Israel in the middle of the “Great Tribulation,” after which will come “destruction.” But if the events today fulfill this prophecy (at least on one level), then it could be said that the Keshe Foundation is offering world peace by giving the world a free energy device, which will then bring chaos and collapse to the Babylonian world system.

Further, if this proves to be the case, then today would mark the start of the “birth pangs” of the Age to come, which no one can escape. Paul goes on to tell the believers in verses 4-7,

4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day should overtake you like a thief; 5 For you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; 6 so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober. 7 For those who sleep do their sleeping at night, and those who get drunk get drunk at night.

The “rapture” doctrine teaches that the “thief” is Christ coming to snatch Christians off the earth. But in biblical times, the metaphor referred to a band of thieves who would ride into town while men were sleeping and plunder it with destruction. (Note the story: Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves.) So Paul did not treat this thief as a burglar quietly stealing something while men sleep, but rather as an Ali Baba who comes suddenly with great noise and destruction.

If we may apply these verses to the acts of the Kesh Foundation, we may find comfort from Paul. If we understand what is going on and are watchful, alert, and sober, not being drunk on the wine of Babylon, then God will take care of us no matter what the situation is around us. Paul continues in 1 Thessalonians 5:8-11,

8 8 But since we are of the day, let us be sober, having put on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we are awake or sleep, we may live together with Him. 11 Therefore encourage one another, and build up one another, just as you also are doing.

Always keep in mind that the chaos of Babylon’s collapse is not designed to destroy God’s people, but to set them free. This was true in Daniel’s day, when the original city of Babylon fell; it is the same today when Mystery Babylon collapses.

So be encouraged.

- See more at: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.v1Jf3OAx.dpuf





Umm, Elle, I really wonder if you should possibly reconsider your faith in "God's Kingdom Ministries and the teachings of Stephen Jones?

If he is directing his members to this Keshe person, perhaps you should check out some of Keshe's claims:


"Mehran Tavakoli Keshe announces he is Messiah"

The following three-page declaration titled "In My name", with his signature and date on the bottom of each page, was released on April 18, 2014 (Good Friday).

Here is a link to the PDF where his signature can be seen:

http://pesn.com/2014/04/20/9602473_Mehra...--18.4.2014.PDF


"In My Name"

"I had to come in the body of the man on this planet and live amongst you the life of the man to understand the way the man has created his misery and so much injustice from the time of his creation for himself and for his fellow men to obtain and hold to nothing but the mirage of the nothingness for his so called life and its physical illusive possessions.

Where, we made all resources of the universe available to him to live in comfort and peace on this planet and among themselves in their time on this planet, that when they are mature intellectually and spiritually (in time the man matures enough), for the tribe of the man to join and unify with the rest of the creation of the creator in the universe.

In this process of maturity, the man chose the path of greed and injustice and killing of not just animals, but of his own kind, and now he has become falsely proud of how many he can kill with one tool and weapon or his false sense of power of control.

Killing and destruction of life has never been part of our teachings and works anywhere in the universe and this shall never be for race and nor shall be from now on this planet or anywhere else in the universe.

To change the course of the life of the man from this wrongful path, we have sent you in so many ways and different forms, different orders and guidance through our messengers of the past.

You have all ignored all our ways to correct your ways, and now you as the race of the man have reached a point that for every action you only think in one way and that is destruction and war.

Today and with this pen, I as the Messiah and I whom took his time to be amongst you, to learn about your shortfalls and false lives, for me to be able to understand your problems, I spent over 55 years with you, worked your ways to be able to help and guide you out of this life of the jungle of this planet, I call up on you to lay down all arms and all thoughts of greed and misconducts and killings.

I chose today to declare my position and status as the creator in the Soul and in the physical body of the man as I am and have chosen to be in, to be amongst you and call up on all the men of this Blue planet and the wild village of the earth, to accept my call for peace and to change your wrongful path, individually, and collectively as the human race for you to be able to live [in] paradise on earth and in the universe.

My call to you, the human race is simple, I have shown you in the past 9 years how to satisfy all your earthly needs with simple methods, and I have written books in simple language that all can understand the principles of the creation as is and not as man has made it to be.

I have shown you how to make food from the air, and I have shown you how to create energy and motion using the same systems and knowledge, that through the creation and production of these needs of the man, one does not harm any creation of mine and that he can live in peace and tranquility amongst the rest of this planets' beings and in the universal community that the men are ready to enter into.

Now; my call goes today (the time of the killing of the son of God) to all men and women and children of this planet, that to halt all these madness of the brain of the man of killing and destruction as a solution to solve and attain earthly and others possessions, and for the Man to lay down all tools of destruction and murder, irrespective of who you are, which religion leader you are the leaders of or which religion and path of belief you follow, and which sector of this planet you think you are the ruler of or you live in.

The job of you, the religious leaders is to guide the man to peace and prosperity, and not to make palaces of shame and dishonesty and protecting those whom have done wrong to other fellow men.

It is our command and wish that you as religious, nations and tribes leaders of regions, nations and cults, first to order as of today for the men whom follow our command through your Churches and Mosques or temples and armies to lay down their arms, and as of today to be of the greatest of sins for any man to be trained or to carry or to be forced the use of any arms, that through this tool and through your guidance, it is to be forbidding the use of killing tools that the man finds new ways and the logical ways of finding peaceful solution for himself and his race, at the time when he does not agree with the given condition.

I do not offer you a reward for following this command, as this is our wish and our wish shall be adhered to with our work through the souls of the men, but in reality in doing so, man will allow himself to enter the universal community, which the greed and the war has no meaning, and with this act, then man can have and will live a life of happiness and fulfillment according to his intelligence and needs anywhere he might be in the universe.

So I call on this day to the world, religious and scientific leaders, to come together and sign the universe peace treaty, which we have sent out to mankind as prelude to this days' declaration in the past two years and with this, signing themselves and their nation and followers to accept this treaty and put an end to all wars and acts of aggression and killing, which have been going on for thousands of years on this planet.

The time of punishment and reward to force the man to submission to go in the right path in his life is over, from this point on, it is the decision of each soul to decide on one path, and that is the path of peace and tranquility and fairness.

If not done so from this day on, and if the leaders of this planet be it religious, tribal or nations refuse to follow this command, your follower rejection of our will, shall lead you to demise of your followers and your nation, and finally I shall make from the man the tribe with the belief in one point and that is one nation on this planet, and the one belief that there shall be no more war.

There are no lines on the ground of this planet or anywhere in the universe to separate races and creations from each other, that with this unity for all men leaves him not only as one body but as one nation and as one creation and one creator to live his life in the universe in peace.

You as children of Adam have suffered enough in the hand of your own wrong doings and others, and now you receive the love of your creator to guide you and protect you in this short path of adjustment and reunion with the rest of the creations in the world of creation. Those whom shall reject my wish, they shall see to their own demise through their rejection by their own fellow men, whom understand the reality of the creation and this wish.

Those who follow our simple command and enter the universal order; they shall see the beauty of the creation with their own conscious and some with their own physical eyes. My love and gratitude to all men and I being so sorry to let you to suffer so long without intervention to help you, but in fact you needed this time in the nursery of the earth to learn and mature.

Now it is the time to guide you and unite this child of the Adam and his family to the rest of the family of the universe and as a perfect child and a peaceful and loving child who is ready to enter the Kingdome of the creators' larger family. I welcome you as the creator into your true dimension of intelligence and love.

Mehran (Mehran Tavakoli Keshe)

(The possessor of love)"




The following link is to Keshe's LiveStreamed workshop of Friday April 18, 2014.
At 108.00, he claims to be the creator of humanity, at 108.20, he claims to be the Messiah we have been praying for!


http://original.livestream.com/keshework...ource=lslibrary


I have visited his site and some others with information about his "power generator". Keshe has been selling them in advance of production since at least 2012. It appears that the preorders have not been delivered.

On his LiveStream, he explains that his "power generator" does not function very well as a single unit and multiple "generators" must be hooked up, so that they can enhance each others performance? His site has lots of mysterious looking gadgets that do not seem to have any function: a needle coated with "nanos", described as not for human use???

An acquaintance of Keshe's posted that he is wanted in Britain on some sort of fraud charge...



It really does appear that Stephen Jones and the God's Kingdom Ministries site are spreading extremely false teachings. I urge you to carefully reconsider any doctrines you may have gleaned from them.

I appreciate your time to do some research into the Keshe Foundation and your concerns. For sure we need to “test all things” and it is commendable to follow the Bereans path as you did.

I did watch a few of his long videos about 2 or 3 years ago of his explanation of this "plasma" energy technology. I didn't have enough physic knowledge to properly evaluate if his discovery was plausible. I gave him the benefit of the doubt knowing that time will tell us if the Lord will be using him and his discovery.

What Keshe put forth, by sending units to most countries leaders of the world, published details of his invention so anyone can reproduce it -- freely, no copyrights, and etc… is no small endeavor. The discovery is potentially so amazing that if it works…..I have no doubt that it would change the world dramatically and quickly.

Plus the timing of Keshe event (October 16th – see the beginning of Jones source of the article that I have omitted) is also of importance for those that heard and saw what the Lord have accomplished last year in the heavenly court on the same date – October 16th.
Originally Posted By: Prodigalone
On his LiveStream, he explains that his "power generator" does not function very well as a single unit and multiple "generators" must be hooked up, so that they can enhance each others performance?

That doesn’t concern me nor do I see this as an issue.
Originally Posted By: Prodigalone
An acquaintance of Keshe's posted that he is wanted in Britain on some sort of fraud charge...

There’s many sides to a story. Also false witness is an effective tool to discredit a person that you want to silence. I remember in the videos I’ve listened 2 or 3 years ago he was talking about how some countries(England, Canada, USA, etc… those that does Mystery Babylon’s biddings) gave him a hard time and travelling to these were very difficult. Just the fact he is Iranian, he will experience problems with these countries with the sanction against them.
If Keshe did discover an amazing more effective source of power, I can see that Mystery Babylon will attempt everything to discredit him.
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Elle, I won't belabour the point by quoting any of the numerous biblical warnings of "false prophets and false Messiahs". I'm sure you know them as well as I do.

If this technology works and the Lord does use Keshe to end this current energy control and wars, then Keshe will be a "Messiah" type just as his ancestor King Cyrus. Cyrus was a Gentile that the Lord called him by name nearly 200 years before he was born. Plus the Lord called a pagan king, “His anointed” (=Messiah) in Is 45:1; because King Cyrus was a type of Messiah when he delivered Israel from the Babylonians.

We know that carnal men are full of themselves, plus you must of noticed that unbelievers, without the guidance of scriptures, can believe in all kinds of weird things. Keshe seems to me to be an unbeliever; so I’m not the least concern of what Keshe thinks he is, or what he believes for it is all irrelevant. Just like it was irrelevant that Cyrus was a gentile and probably had his own weird believes too without the guidance of scriptures. What was relevant is how the Lord used a gentile king like Cyrus to fulfill His judgment on Babylon. So to me, it would be the Lord' style to bring forth another gentile-Cyrus type in the conquering of Mystery Babylon today to follow the TYPE he had laid with old Babylon.

It is very interesting to me to note that Cyrus was Persian(now called Iran); the same as Keshe is from Persia=Iran.

So let's continue to watch what the Lord is doing. If the Lord doesn't use Keshe and his discovery is quackery ....then Stephen Jones mis-read the signs that fell on Oct 16. We are all learning to hear His voice better and trying to understand what the Lord is doing in the world's events. Mistakes is part of the learning process and there's no need to stone our brothers for trying to hear the Lord and trying to understand what He's doing.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/18/15 10:24 PM


Elle, I must say, I am flabbergasted by how casually you dismiss this false Christ and those who directed you to him. Keshe claims to be "the Messiah that we have been praying for", and "the creator". This is the spirit of Antichrist, that which seeks to supplant God. By the way on his website, Keshe is selling his "free" power generators for 499.00 euros apiece. I wonder how many of his followers will choose to build their own when they can obtain one directly from the "Messiah's" hand?


The round brackets below are my added commentary:

"And then if any man (STEPHEN JONES) shall say to you, Lo, here [is] Christ (KESHE); or, lo, [he is] (KESHE IS) there; believe [him] (STEPHEN JONES) not:
For false Christs (KESHES) and false prophets (STEPHEN JONES'S) shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders (MIRACULOUS ENERGY FOR FREE GENERATORS) to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect,
But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things."

Mark13:21-23


I apologize for the fill in the blanks method above; however, it is extremely important that you understand who and what you are following.


Please, take a careful look at where you have been led by following the teachings of people such as Stephen Jones and God's Kingdom Ministries.

You have become convinced that the messages sent to guide and keep the Remnant from deception, the writings of God's Last Day Prophet, Ellen White are unreliable!
You have come to believe that the Ten Commandments, DISTINCT from ALL other commands, the ONLY Word of God WRITTEN BY HIS OWN HAND and placed INSIDE of the Ark of the Covenant, the very foundation of His throne, the absolute DEFINITION of sin, have been subtly changed without so much as a minor proclamation by God!
You have been led to accept the possibility that a lying con man, offering signs and wonders, claiming to be the "creator in our souls", claiming to be the "Messiah we have been praying for", the very definition of Antichrist (one who takes the place of Christ) is "a Messiah type"!

(And then if ANY man shall say to you, Lo, here [is] Christ; or, lo, [he is] there; believe [him] not:)



Elle, I really don't know what to say. You have been led astray, and wandered from the simplicity of the Gospel. Consider that when liars talk, they use complex arguements and many, many words. When the Truth is spoken, it is pure, simple, and with few words...

When God states plainly that His Remnant Church "will have the Spirit of Prophesy" (He means they will HAVE it: it will be protected from the interference of humanity),

when He says clearly that every "Seventh Day (of the week) is the Sabbath" (He means, it is sanctified and SEPARATE from all other laws which were placed outside of the Ark),

when He warns His people not to follow the "false Christs" and "false prophets" that will come (He means those who seek to lead you AWAY from what is good and simple and direct).


Please, please, dear Lady open your eyes and see that you are being led to a dark place. I beg you, turn back, turn back to the simple truth of your first Love...
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/19/15 11:42 AM

ProdigalOne wrote;

"Elle, I must say, I am flabbergasted by how casually you dismiss this false Christ and those who directed you to him. Keshe claims to be "the Messiah that we have been praying for", and "the creator". This is the spirit of Antichrist, that which seeks to supplant God. By the way on his website, Keshe is selling his "free" power generators for 499.00 euros apiece. I wonder how many of his followers will choose to build their own when they can obtain one directly from the "Messiah's" hand?"

Blessings Elle.

After reading these last posts in this thread, I am also shocked at your relaxed response toward an open and obvious false Christ!

Even if this technology works better than advertised, he is leading souls, that he claims to have been the creator of, into perdition. And I am afraid that that would mean your soul Blessings.

Please, take a step back and renew your first love toward Christ. Spend time again with Him who alone can save fallen human beings regardless of or even without any technology.

Take the time alone with God in prayer and Bible study discovering again the love and tenderness God has toward us, even when we do get confused about God's own nature or character.

This Stephen Jones or Dr. Mehran Tavakoli Kesh is not anyone God's people should be listening to. Pray long and come back to Jesus in His Spirit and Truth and leave this Stephen Jones and Dr. Mehran Tavakoli Kesh alone forever.

God Bless.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/19/15 02:57 PM

Alchemy and Prodigalone you are both misrepresenting what I said by putting words I did not say and putting a spin to it. This is a serious offense that is call false witness. I will give you both the benefit of the doubt that you were not aware of what you were doing.

Neither Stephen or I said nor believes that Keshe is the Messiah. There’s a big difference between calling someone “a Messiah TYPE” and “THE Messiah”. Mark13:21-23 warnings is about believing an individual is THE Messiah.

We SDAs believe that Joseph and Cyrus were both Messiah TYPES. There’s many other characters in the Bible that we give this label to without the fear of being quoted Mark 13:21-23 because we understand this difference.

So maybe you didn’t read my post correctly or you forgot about this difference….whatever was the cause of this false witness…. I extend my understanding to you both and forgive you. We need to be very vigilante not to mis-represent our brothers’ sayings or any of the Lord’s word.

Originally Posted By: Alchemy
By the way on his website, Keshe is selling his "free" power generators for 499.00 euros apiece.

Alchemy I never said he would sell for free his devices that he manufactured. I said that the blueprint or the plans to build these devices were given to the world for free.
Originally Posted By: elle
What Keshe put forth, by sending units to most countries leaders of the world, published details of his invention so anyone can reproduce it -- freely, no copyrights, and etc… is no small endeavor.

Be careful.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/19/15 05:09 PM

Guys, shocked and flabbergasted? You shouldn't be. This is none other than the result of believing in a millennial of peace on earth. And a result of one with a preponderance to casually dismiss facts.

I must admit, that I had thought this might be an answer to our energy issues. I believe there may be untapped "free" energy out there and was ready to watch the youtube videos. But from what you have found out, I'm not sure I want to subject myself to him. It makes one wonder if satan personified could offer free energy of a different untapped kind than what most are looking for. Then Elle tries to casually dismiss this as her "TYPE" stuff. Not so: "Today and with this pen, I as the Messiah".

Nope. This just goes to emphasize more and more against those promoting Jewish feastkeeping, rotating Sabbaths, Sunday as Sabbath, etc. Par for the course.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/19/15 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Alchemy and Prodigalone you are both misrepresenting what I said by putting words I did not say and putting a spin to it. This is a serious offense that is call false witness. I will give you both the benefit of the doubt that you were not aware of what you were doing.

Neither Stephen or I said nor believes that Keshe is the Messiah. There’s a big difference between calling someone “a Messiah TYPE” and “THE Messiah”. Mark13:21-23 warnings is about believing an individual is THE Messiah.

We SDAs believe that Joseph and Cyrus were both Messiah TYPES. There’s many other characters in the Bible that we give this label to without the fear of being quoted Mark 13:21-23 because we understand this difference.

So maybe you didn’t read my post correctly or you forgot about this difference….whatever was the cause of this false witness…. I extend my understanding to you both and forgive you. We need to be very vigilante not to mis-represent our brothers’ sayings or any of the Lord’s word.

Originally Posted By: Alchemy
By the way on his website, Keshe is selling his "free" power generators for 499.00 euros apiece.

Alchemy I never said he would sell for free his devices that he manufactured. I said that the blueprint or the plans to build these devices were given to the world for free.
Originally Posted By: elle
What Keshe put forth, by sending units to most countries leaders of the world, published details of his invention so anyone can reproduce it -- freely, no copyrights, and etc… is no small endeavor.

Be careful.




Elle, here is my post:

"You have been led to accept the possibility that a lying con man, offering signs and wonders, claiming to be the "creator in our souls", claiming to be the "Messiah we have been praying for", the very definition of Antichrist (one who takes the place of Christ) is "a Messiah type"! "

If you read my original post above, you will see that I never said you believed Keshe is the Messiah. I said, you believe he is "a Messiah type".

The "spin" is simply a brother trying to point out an unbiblical view of types.
Your examples of Joseph and Cyrus as types of Christ may be correct; however, applying this symbolism to Keshe is completely unbiblical.

Although, their actions may have typified salvation through Christ, as far as I know, neither Joseph or Cyrus claimed to be the Creator or the Messiah. One who makes such claims exhibits the spirit of Antichrist. This is not exactly a type of Christ!


Keshe's recording and statements were made in 2014 on Good Friday, over a year ago.
It took me less than an hour to uncover his recorded and written statements containing his blasphemous claims of divinity. If Stephen Jones is such a trustworthy individual, why is he, over a year later, still sending unsuspecting followers to this antichristian wolf in sheep's clothing?


"if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
Matthew 24:24

Any of us can be deceived. In Love, we must help each other to stay safely in the Light.

Elle, I am not trying to attack or accuse you. I am your brother and am deeply concerned that you have been unsuspectingly led astray.

May our Lord guide you and protect you in Jesus holy name, amen.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/20/15 05:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Alchemy and Prodigalone you are both misrepresenting what I said by putting words I did not say and putting a spin to it. This is a serious offense that is call false witness. I will give you both the benefit of the doubt that you were not aware of what you were doing.

Neither Stephen or I said nor believes that Keshe is the Messiah. There’s a big difference between calling someone “a Messiah TYPE” and “THE Messiah”. Mark13:21-23 warnings is about believing an individual is THE Messiah.

We SDAs believe that Joseph and Cyrus were both Messiah TYPES. There’s many other characters in the Bible that we give this label to without the fear of being quoted Mark 13:21-23 because we understand this difference.

So maybe you didn’t read my post correctly or you forgot about this difference….whatever was the cause of this false witness…. I extend my understanding to you both and forgive you. We need to be very vigilante not to mis-represent our brothers’ sayings or any of the Lord’s word.

Originally Posted By: Alchemy
By the way on his website, Keshe is selling his "free" power generators for 499.00 euros apiece.

Alchemy I never said he would sell for free his devices that he manufactured. I said that the blueprint or the plans to build these devices were given to the world for free.
Originally Posted By: elle
What Keshe put forth, by sending units to most countries leaders of the world, published details of his invention so anyone can reproduce it -- freely, no copyrights, and etc… is no small endeavor.

Be careful.


Blessings Elle,

The quote you applied to me did not come from me. But, I agree that nobody should put words in your mouth.

I am very much concerned though about what this Stephen Jones and Dr. Keshe are promoting and especially your seemingly support for them. Most notably, the claim by Dr. Keshe that he is the Messiah and the creator of souls, etc....

Please Elle, pray hard for God's insights, wisdom and mercy.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/27/15 10:08 PM

ProdigalOne & Alchemy, you both totally mis-understood what either myself or Stephen purpose and intend in bringing Keshe's discovery. Neither one have even said that Keshe's discovery was going to be used. We both are looking at Keshe as a potential move the Lord might bring to defeat Mystery Babylon.

It is only to understand what the Lord might be doing in the midst of today's WORLD current ENERGY control by Mystery Babylon via Petroleum. If the needs of Petroleum becomes totally obsolete by the discovery of another SIMPLER ENERGY SOURCE & TECHNOLOGY -- then wouldn't it become an END GAME CONTROL for Mystery Babylon? That's all.

Wether Keshe thinks he's the creator and savior of this world, this does not stop the Lord :
1) in giving Keshe this discovery(if this discovery works -- as personally I still don't know if it does),
2)nor will it stop the Lord from using Keshe discovery if He wants to end Mystery Babylon's control with petroleum.

The Lord has used unbelievers (who are often men full with themselves like Keshe is currently thinking of himself) in the past to change the world course as He did with Cyrus. That's why I brought up King Cyrus to show a case where the Lord has used unbelievers before.

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
I said, you believe he is "a Messiah type".

The "spin" is simply a brother trying to point out an unbiblical view of types.
Your examples of Joseph and Cyrus as types of Christ may be correct; however, applying this symbolism to Keshe is completely unbiblical.

You have not said this but for the records -- I did not apply Keshe "Messiah Type" to Joseph "Messiah Type", but to Cyrus "Messiah type". What I understand is all biblical "Messiah Types" show different aspect of Jesus' coming Messianic work. I would agree that applying Keshe to Joseph's Messiah pattern would be a mis-match. Keshe only match the "Cyrus Messiah Type" which is totally Biblical and a perfect match as due to the following similitudes :
1) Cyrus was Persian like Keshe,
2)Cyrus was an unbeliever like Keshe is
3)Cyrus concquered Bybylon and freed the people; like Keshe discovery has the potential to do the same by making the current Mystery Babylon petroleum control and wars obsolete.

Originally Posted By: Prodigalone
Although, their actions may have typified salvation through Christ, as far as I know, neither Joseph or Cyrus claimed to be the Creator or the Messiah. One who makes such claims exhibits the spirit of Antichrist. This is not exactly a type of Christ!

I think that's a false assumption. What I see from scriptures, the Lord has always used men and woman, believers or unbelievers, regardless of what they currently believed, how much or little of the truth they knew, no matter how faulty current beieves maybe, and no matter how "usurping" our actions maybe at times.

The Bible does not tell us details of Joseph or Cyrus previous "misunderstandings". I'm sure Joseph had many mis-understandings as we all have limited understandings of the Lord's laws, ways, and plan. We all had misunderstandings; thus have all acted as an usurper and "anti-christs" (in it's negative definition) many times in our own lives. However, that never stopped the Lord from using anyone of us to fulfill part of His plan if He wants to. Most people in scriptures has acted out parts without even understanding what they were doing.

We do know that Joseph did have two dreams that all his brothers and "the moon and sun" bowed down to him. We don't know if Joseph ever made any "messianic" claims, but I can easily see as a potential & typical possibility that Joseph may had some sorta thoughts that he may become the Savior before being in position and seeing what his dream actually meant at the end. He probably died in his grave without seeing nor understanding the prophetic meaning of all that the Lord did in his live.

Whether Joseph had those thoughts or have claimed it publically to his brothers when he first received the dreams -- that is not declare to us in scriptures. You can not make such a claims that Joseph or Cyrus never did have those thoughts or made such Messianic claims when this information is not provided. It is called speculation.
Originally Posted By: Prodigalone
"if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
Matthew 24:24

Any of us can be deceived. In Love, we must help each other to stay safely in the Light.

Elle, I am not trying to attack or accuse you. I am your brother and am deeply concerned that you have been unsuspectingly led astray.

May our Lord guide you and protect you in Jesus holy name, amen.

Tx for your concern. Yes anyone of us can be deceived including myself and youself.... Blindness is thick and deep.

However, you should conduct a thorough investigation before passing any accusation on your brothers and sisters.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/28/15 02:46 AM

Who's Really Isolated? Iran Set To Join BRICS Bank, Strengthen Ties With Brazil

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-27...hen-ties-brazil

by Tyler Durden on 10/27/2015

Quote:
As US hegemony wanes in the face of dysfunctional domestic politics, foreign policy confusion, and a “lead from behind” mentality, the world has begun to transition towards a kind of new world order both politically and economically.

On the geopolitical front, we’ve seen a resurgent Russia take charge in Syria after the situation spiraled out of control, leaving hundreds of thousands dead and creating the worst migrant crisis in Europe’s history.

On the economic front, the BRICS nations have embarked on a series of projects designed to supplant the US-led multinational institutions that have dominated the post-war world.

In what has become one of the bigger stories of the year, China has established its own development bank (the AIIB) and after the UK broke with Washington to support the new venture back in March, the floodgates opened with US ally after US ally jumping on the bandwagon. Although Beijing has promised it doesn’t intend to use the bank as an instrument of foreign policy or as a means of promoting yuan hegemony, the renminbi is set to play a prominent role in loans issued by the bank and there’s little question that development lending will bolster China’s attempt to establish a kind of Sino-Monroe Doctrine. Beijing has similar ambitions with the Silk Road Fund (see our full breakdown here), although part of the story there looks to revolve around an effort to provide a kind of pressure valve for the country's excess industrial capacity.

And then there is of course the BRICS bank, which officially launched along with a reserve currency pool back in July. The following chart does a nice job of demonstrating why the bank matters:

Much like the AIIB, the BRICS bank is in many respects a response to what the emerging world views as an abject failure on the part of existing multilateral institutions to provide representation that’s commensurate with the growing clout of influential emerging economies.

Given this, and given what we know about the extent to which the current situation in the Mid-East has served to strengthen ties between Moscow and Tehran, it should come as no surprise that Iran is now set to join the BRICS bank. Here’s RT:

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Tehran intends to participate in the BRICS New Development Bank, the Iranian Tasnim news agency reported on Monday, citing an Iranian official.

The Iranian Deputy Minister of Economic Development Mohammad Khazaee said at a meeting of a joint Iran-Brazil economic council that the country is aiming to join the BRICS bank.

More, from PressTV:
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Iranian officials said on Monday that the country plans to join an independent bank established by BRICS member states.

The announcement was made by Mohammad Khazaei, Iran’s deputy economy minister for development affairs, at conference on Iran-Brazil economic cooperation.

The agreement to establish the BRICS New Development Bank (NDB), with an initial capitalization of $100 billion, was signed by the BRICS member states — Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa — during the group's 6th summit in Fortaleza, Brazil, in July 2014.

The bank is meant to act as an alternative to the existing American and European-dominated financial institutions such as the World Bank and International Monetary Fund.

It was officially launched at the last BRICS summit in the Russian city of Ufa earlier this year.
Khazaei said Iran’s joining the NDB will help the expansion of economic relations with all BRICS states, specifically Brazil.

And while now might not be a particularly opportune time to be aligning with Brazil economically, the following (again from state affiliate PressTV) underscores the extent to which Tehran is quickly shedding the pariah state label and marking a swift return to the world stage:

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Iran’s Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif has stressed the importance of improving relations with Brazil given the country’s special position in Latin America and in the BRICS group of major emerging economies.

“This country (Brazil) has always been among priorities of the Islamic Republic of Iran’s foreign policy,” Zarif said in a meeting with Brazilian Minister of Development, Industry and Trade Armando Monteiro in Tehran on Monday.

He added that Iran has great potentialities to open new markets and can help Brazil’s access to the Central Asian region.

Zarif said Tehran and Brasilia are seeking a new roadmap to develop common interests, adding that the two sides’ enterprises and banking and economic institutes can play an important role in this regard.

He noted that Iran and Brazil enjoy great opportunities for strengthening cooperation in different fields such as technology, biotechnology, energy and gas.

The Iranian minister expressed his country’s readiness to remove obstacles in the way of banking cooperation with Brazil through constant consultation.
Yet again, we see further evidence that the "isolation" line being pushed by the West with regard to Moscow and Tehran bears little resemblance to reality.

Admittedly, the nuclear deal shows that Washington has to a certain extent come to terms with the fact that attempting to bankrupt a geopolitically imporant state as "punishment" for that state's legitimate attempt to develop the same deterrent capabilities as its sworn enemy is a fool's errand. That is, whatever you want to say about the P5+1 accord, and the Ayattolah's ranting notwithstanding, the deal was at least a step towards recognizing that Washington's foreign policy towards Tehran has been a miserable failure and isn't at all sustainable going forward.

Now, with sanctions set to be lifted and Iranian crude exports set to get a boost in Q1 or Q2 2016 at the latest, Tehran is marking a dramatic comeback both with its involvement in Syria and with efforts to prove that it is not, as the West would have you believe, completely "isolated." Time will tell if this is ultimately a positive development. We'll leave it to readers to make their own predictions in that regard.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/28/15 06:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
ProdigalOne & Alchemy, you both totally mis-understood what either myself or Stephen purpose and intend in bringing Keshe's discovery. Neither one have even said that Keshe's discovery was going to be used. We both are looking at Keshe as a potential move the Lord might bring to defeat Mystery Babylon.
Are you trying to say that Keshe's "discovery" doesn't have to be used to defeat Mystery Babylon?
?

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It is only to understand what the Lord might be doing in the midst of today's WORLD current ENERGY control by Mystery Babylon via Petroleum. If the needs of Petroleum becomes totally obsolete by the discovery of another SIMPLER ENERGY SOURCE & TECHNOLOGY -- then wouldn't it become an END GAME CONTROL for Mystery Babylon? That's all.
Great thought. Many would like that to happen. But as others pointed out, this looks like a fraud if not evil supernatural. Now that some time has passed since the release, do you have information showing it's valid?

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2)nor will it stop the Lord from using Keshe discovery if He wants to end Mystery Babylon's control with petroleum.
The Lord intends use of false messiahs?

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The Lord has used unbelievers (who are often men full with themselves like Keshe is currently thinking of himself) in the past to change the world course as He did with Cyrus. That's why I brought up King Cyrus to show a case where the Lord has used unbelievers before.
As pointed out, Cyrus did not claim "to be the Creator or the Messiah. "

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Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
I said, you believe he is "a Messiah type".

The "spin" is simply a brother trying to point out an unbiblical view of types.
Your examples of Joseph and Cyrus as types of Christ may be correct; however, applying this symbolism to Keshe is completely unbiblical.

You have not said this but for the records -- I did not apply Keshe "Messiah Type" to Joseph "Messiah Type", but to Cyrus "Messiah type". What I understand is all biblical "Messiah Types" show different aspect of Jesus' coming Messianic work. I would agree that applying Keshe to Joseph's Messiah pattern would be a mis-match. Keshe only match the "Cyrus Messiah Type" which is totally Biblical and a perfect match as due to the following similitudes :
1) Cyrus was Persian like Keshe,
2)Cyrus was an unbeliever like Keshe is
3)Cyrus concquered Bybylon and freed the people; like Keshe discovery has the potential to do the same by making the current Mystery Babylon petroleum control and wars obsolete.
Notice that you mix in making literal and non-literal comparisons.

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Originally Posted By: Prodigalone
Although, their actions may have typified salvation through Christ, as far as I know, neither Joseph or Cyrus claimed to be the Creator or the Messiah. One who makes such claims exhibits the spirit of Antichrist. This is not exactly a type of Christ!

I think that's a false assumption. What I see from scriptures, the Lord has always used men and woman, believers or unbelievers, regardless of what they currently believed, how much or little of the truth they knew, no matter how faulty current beieves maybe, and no matter how "usurping" our actions maybe at times.
Yeah? Even those who claim to be the anti-Christ?

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The Bible does not tell us details of Joseph or Cyrus previous "misunderstandings". I'm sure Joseph had many mis-understandings as we all have limited understandings of the Lord's laws, ways, and plan. We all had misunderstandings; thus have all acted as an usurper and "anti-christs" (in it's negative definition) many times in our own lives. However, that never stopped the Lord from using anyone of us to fulfill part of His plan if He wants to. Most people in scriptures has acted out parts without even understanding what they were doing.
Not sure what the term would be for that mixing of things....
Double-speak, whitewashing, ?
I've seen it elsewhere but don't remember the term.

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Whether Joseph had those thoughts or have claimed it publically to his brothers when he first received the dreams -- that is not declare to us in scriptures. You can not make such a claims that Joseph or Cyrus never did have those thoughts or made such Messianic claims when this information is not provided. It is called speculation.
Prodigalone wasn't talking about "thoughts". He was talking about a bold-faced claim / lie.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/31/15 04:22 PM

Elle said:

"The Bible does not tell us details of Joseph or Cyrus previous "misunderstandings". I'm sure Joseph had many Umis-understandings as we all have limited understandings of the Lord's laws, ways, and plan. We all had misunderstandings; thus have all acted as an usurper and "anti-christs" (in it's negative definition) many times in our own lives. However, that never stopped the Lord from using anyone of us to fulfill part of His plan if He wants to. Most people in scriptures has acted out parts without even understanding what they were doing."


kland said:

"Not sure what the term would be for that mixing of things....
Double-speak, whitewashing, ?
I've seen it elsewhere but don't remember the term."


I believe the term for Elle's argument here is "negative proof", known classically as "appeal to ignorance": X is true because there is no proof that X is false.


"The Bible does not tell us details of Joseph or Cyrus previous "misunderstandings"."

This does not prove that either of them claimed or even thought they were the Creator/Messiah.


"I'm sure Joseph had many Umis-understandings..."

This is an assumption on your part. You being "sure" of something does not make it biblical fact. We must reason from a plain thus saith the Lord!
Anything else is a path to deception...

Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/31/15 05:35 PM


Elle, I believe that you have been drawn toward some unhealthy spiritual influences as a direct result of your rejection of much of the Spirit of Prophesy.
You told me that you have little confidence in the writings of Ellen White after the death of James White.

I beg you to reconsider. Remember, God is in control. If our Lord desires that His people receive the messages delivered through His prophet, He is absolutely able to preserve those messages. The Lord God, Creator of the universe, Savior of humanity, is mightier than any! Have faith in Him, Sister. He is more than capable of thwarting any mortal manipulation of His prophetic warnings!

Please, take a few moments and consider the cautions God has uttered by the pen of inspiration:


"If you lose confidence in the Testimonies you will drift away from Bible truth. I have been fearful that many would take a questioning, doubting position, and in my distress for your souls I would warn you. How many will heed the warning?" [121] – {CCh 94.3}


"Satan has ability to suggest doubts and to devise objections to the pointed testimony that God sends, and many think it a virtue, a mark of intelligence in them, to be unbelieving and to question and quibble. Those who desire to doubt will have plenty of room. God does not propose to remove all occasion for unbelief. He gives evidence, which must be carefully investigated with a humble mind and a teachable spirit, and all should decide from the weight of evidence. God gives sufficient evidence for the candid mind to believe; but he who turns from the weight of evidence because there are a few things which he cannot make plain to his finite understanding will be left in the cold, chilling atmosphere of unbelief and questioning doubts, and will make shipwreck of faith". – {CCh 93.4}

"It is Satan’s plan to weaken the faith of God’s people in the Testimonies. Satan knows how to make his attacks." – {CCh 93.5}

"The gifts are next questioned; then, of course, they have but little weight, and instruction given through vision is disregarded. Next follows skepticism in regard to the vital points of our faith, the pillars of our position, then doubt as to the Holy Scriptures, and then the downward march to perdition. When the Testimonies, which were once believed, are doubted and given up, Satan knows the deceived ones will not stop at this; and he redoubles his efforts till he launches them into open rebellion, which becomes incurable and ends in destruction."– {CCh 94.1}
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/01/15 05:46 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne

Elle, I believe that you have been drawn toward some unhealthy spiritual influences as a direct result of your rejection of much of the Spirit of Prophesy.
You told me that you have little confidence in the writings of Ellen White after the death of James White.

misrepresenting information... I did not refer to myself but to others. I said the following :
Originally Posted By: elle
.... So to me those that suspect any writings beyond 1881 is not that far fetch.


Originally Posted By: prodigalone
I beg you to reconsider. Remember, God is in control. If our Lord desires that His people receive the messages delivered through His prophet, He is absolutely able to preserve those messages. The Lord God, Creator of the universe, Savior of humanity, is mightier than any! Have faith in Him, Sister. He is more than capable of thwarting any mortal manipulation of His prophetic warnings!

your very off-topic and off many other things. If you want to discussed further what we have exchanged concerning – Jesuit infiltration, the preserving of EGW writings without the need to canonized it, etc… it is good & the rule here to open another discussion.

I have compiled below our off-topic exchange here so you can easily bring it to start another discussion if you desire so.

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Elle : #3. With all honesty, I think no one of us (SDAs) should or can quote any of EGW's writings because our Church failed to make a cleanup(cannonize) her writings. All the EGW writings we have we do not know which texts comes straight from her pen. She had a large team of people working and writing for her that we are told that Ellen has approved. Plus some of EGW writings has been changed here and there even after her death and we are told that she had approved or would approve of it by the white estate. I have known an SDA and heard of others who goes to the extend to not trust any EGW's writtings dating after 1881 -- when James White died and ceased to oversee her writtings.

I do believe the Lord spoke to Ellen, however until our Church does the work needed to clean up and tell us what actually came from the pen of Ellen…’till then I only have the Holy Scriptures and the guidance of the the Holy Spirit to rely on.

ProdigalOne :Elle, I believe we must trust that God has preserved the integrity of the Spirit of Prophesy. If we begin to doubt the veracity of the messages the Lord has gifted the Church with, then this same line of logic will lead us to question the Bible itself! After all it is far older and has passed through far more hands than the SOP writings.

Questioning God's power to preserve the Word that He has once delivered to us has led more than one denomination, and I'm afraid even some Seventh Day Adventists to disaster. With no firm foundation, we are left blind and bound to fall into a pit...

The quote below is from 1883, two years after your deadline; however, these words were not written behind closed doors, in some private study. Sister White spoke these words in a sermon in front of the General Conference. That is a rather large number of respectable witnesses. I believe them to be accurate:

"When you find men questioning the testimonies, finding fault with them, and seeking to draw away the people from their influence, be assured that God is not at work through them. It is another spirit..."

1SM 45.1 - From a sermon at the General Conference of 1883

Elle :I understand and respect your position.

I thought it interesting that you acknowledge the validity of James Arrabito's work; so in this are you agreeing that our Church has been infiltrated by the Jesuit?

There is an old picture from the 1888 conference having all the men(5 of them) sitting next to Ellen in the front row doing the masson's secret hidden hand symbol. There is an interesting discussion here on this forum about this. Only from the picture there's a large possibility that the SDA Church was infiltrated as early as 1888 or even sooner. So to me those that suspect any writings beyond 1881 is not that far fetch.

Personally this infiltration doesn't botter me and see this as part of the Lord's plan not only for the SDA Church but for all churches. We need to remember that all the Beasts Empires were set by the Lord to serve His purpose(Rom 13).

ProdigalOne :I heard about James Arrabito long before I joined this site. While I am not 100% certain of the validity of Alberto Rivera's testimony, I have no doubt that the SDA denomination has been infiltrated by the Jesuits. It's just too logical a move for them not to have done it.

Elle : Tx for confirming and I agree that it is too logical for them not to have done it.

ProdigalOne :I agree, it doesn't bother me that the SDA Church has been infiltrated. It is just another reason to check everything by the Bible. Although, I have faith that God has preserved the writings of ALL of His prophets, the writings of Ellen White should also be checked out with Scripture. So far, I have found no discrepancies between the two.

Since "all things, (are) set by the Lord to serve His purpose"(Rom 13)
would it not serve our Father's purpose to preserve intact the messages
He sent to His children through His Prophets, including those He delivered
through Ellen White?

Elle :In History the Lord cannonize the OT before Christ 1st coming and again cannonized the NT writings afterwards. The writings of EGW has not been cannonized nor is it in the GCs agenda. I think it is very presumptuous to think that all of EGW writings has been preserved without seeing the same work the Lord has done with OT & NT.

ProdigalOne :Have you considered what would motivate infiltrators of the SDA to allow their presence be detected? It would be an absolutely Machiavellian method of sewing the seeds of doubt about the veracity of a major portion of the Spirit of Prophesy, and they wouldn't have to lift a finger.

Elle :I see it this way -- The Lord has always provided a lot of reasons for people to neglect their duty to test all things against the Law of Moses which is the foundation of all truth(Is 8:20). Prophets has always been tested against the Law. And also to take note....prophets has to grow into their ministry. They are not without human errors. That's why cannonizing their work is important and was needed in the past. The biggest error prophets do is they bring their own interpretation of the Lord's Word received in the beginning of their ministry. It takes lots of refinement and maturity to come and accept that most of the time the Lord did not provide interpretation. The Lord requires of them to only speak the Word given without adding or substracting to it.


A Friendly Reminder
I must remind you that you have brought forth a public false accusation based on false biblical grounds on me and our brother Stephen. I do think you know how to remedied this so you won't appear as a malicious witness in front of the heavenly court.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/02/15 03:34 PM


Elle said:

"misrepresenting information... I did not refer to myself but to others. I said the following :
Originally Posted By: elle
.... So to me those that suspect any writings beyond 1881 is not that far fetch."


After rereading the "letter" of your post, I find that you are correct in that you did not specifically claim to distrust Sister White's writings after the death of James White. For this mistake, I do apologize. It was an oversight and not intentional.

It is, however, quite obvious that the "spirit" of your statement above is that you agree with those who doubt the veracity of Sister White's writings subsequent to the death of James White!


I do stand behind this part of my statement as quoted by you:

"Elle, I believe that you have been drawn toward some unhealthy spiritual influences as a direct result of your rejection of much of the Spirit of Prophesy."


Elle said:

"With all honesty, I think no one of us (SDAs) should or can quote any of EGW's writings..."

Oh, I have made yet another mistake. You do not reject "much" of the Spirit of Prophesy. You reject ALL of it. Or do you consider "honestly" thinking "no one of us (SDAs) should or can quote ANY of EGW's writings" to mean you trust the writings of God's last day Prophet?


Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/02/15 04:30 PM


Elle, your only justification for rejecting the writings of Sister White seems to be that they have not been "canonized"?  

Is it your contention that God is powerless to preserve the urgent messages He delivered through His end time Prophet?  Are His desperately needed warnings and wisdom only valid when they have been vetted by some church committee?


Most of the books of the New Testament were read and distributed as Scripture by individual Christians and church’s for hundreds of years before their church councils claimed to give us the Bible.

In fact since the New Testament was not "canonized" until 397AD by the (Catholic) Council of Carthage: according to your reasoning it would seem that for over 350 years following the crucifixion of Christ, the Church should not have quoted ANY of the New Testament!


"My sheep hear my voice".  John 10:27

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
Hebrews 11:1

"But without faith [it is] impossible to please [him]".
Hebrews 11:6

Where is your faith? 
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/02/15 05:21 PM

topicProdigalone start another discussion.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/02/15 05:54 PM

My comment: Malicious trading is rampant in the Western Countries using computer and high-end technologies. In this article, we see that China will not tolerate this in the coming new system. That's good to see. What China is doing in their country needs to be done in the Western countries too.

China Arrests Three High Frequency Traders For "Destabilizing The Market And Profiting From Volatility"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-02...rofiting-volati
11/02/2015
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Last night we reported the shocking news that none other than "China's Carl Icahn" (or its "Warren Buffett" depending on the news source), Xu Xiang - who has ranked China's 188th richest man with $2.2 billion in net worth according to the Hurun rich list - had been arrested in what was the latest crackdown against "malicious short sellers", with Bloomberg adding that Shanghai police raided hedge fund Zexi Investment on Sunday, taking away computers and other materials, "in the latest attempt by Chinese authorities to crack down on strategies blamed for exacerbating a $5 trillion stock-market rout."
According to the FT, Xiang "was the the leading light of the “Limit-up Kamikaze Squad”, a group of hedge fund managers known for their fearless speculation."

He was “captain” of the loose collection of fund managers centred on the coastal city of Ningbo in eastern Zhejiang province who are known for pushing favoured stocks up by the 10 per cent daily limit on Chinese exchanges.
To be sure the hedge fund's stunning returns which saw 4 of its 5 funds return over 60% during the June to August Shanghai Composite rout, only added to the "case" against Chinese shorters in what will likely be the first of many such crackdowns against anyone who disobeys the market's primary directive of only going higher.
There was an even more dramatic interlude in the news when Chinese media first reported, then retracted that an associated of Xiang's, Wu Shuang "tried to resist escape, and was shot by police on the spot."

But while the fate of both Zexi, and its various founders remains in limbo, just as notable is that while the US regulators dither, China has already launched its crackdown against High Frequency Traders.

As the raid of Zexi's office was taking place, Shanghai police also arrested 3 suspects as they cracked a case of stock futures price manipulation involving over 11.3 billion yuan (US$1.8 billion), police said yesterday in a statement.

According to Shanghai Daily, Yishidun, a commercial company registered in Jiangsu Province’s Zhangjiagang City in 2012, was found to use an illegal stock futures trading software to destabilize the market and profit from volatility.

In other words, Yishidun was a high-frequency trader doing precisely what HFTs do not only in China but around the entire world: recall that none other than HFT poster child Virtu boasted that on the day of the August 24 HFT/ETF clash crash it had "one of its most profitable days in history."

Reuters adds that "the firm allegedly used software to buy up to 31 futures contracts in one second, said Xinhua, adding from early June to early July it made a net profit of over 500 million yuan."

More from the source:

The software uses complex algorithms to analyze the markets and are able to spot emerging trends in a fraction of a second. By essentially anticipating and beating the trends to the market place, institutions that implement high frequency trading can gain favorable returns on trades they make by essence of their bid-ask spread, resulting in significant profits.

The firm made 8,110 deals with 11.3 billion yuan in turnover, and made a total profit of 2 billion yuan since 2012. It made a profit of 500 million yuan from the Chinese stock market rout in June and July.
Based on their names, it would appear that the founders of the HFT firm were Russian, Georgy Zarya and Anton Murashov. The duo urged general manager Gao Yan to borrow 31 individual and corporate accounts to trade stock futures with nearly 7 million yuan capital.

As instructed by Zarya, Gao also sent over 1 million yuan to Jin Wenxian, a technical supervisor with a futures company who helped Yishidun cover up the transactions while using the software undetected by authorities and transferring funds, the statement said. While Gao, Jin and Liang Ze, another senior executive of Yishidun, have been arrested, the case is still under investigation.

Xinhua adds that "the company's trade activities deteriorated the fluctuations in daily trade prices and affected then market trade prices and normal trade orders."

Hardly new, Chinese authorities have previously blamed "malicious" trading in stock futures for stoking share volatility that saw bourses slide over 40 percent since June. Investigations into market manipulation have so far netted journalists, senior executives in brokerages and even securities regulators.

However, the actual arrests of established, household name investors and now, high frequency traders, is a new development, and reminds us of what we said over a year ago, namely that when the market is going up and HFTs are assisting the creation of upward price momentum, everyone is happy. However, the moment a market crashes, there is no easier target than a bunch of math PhDs.

This has already happened in China. It will happen in the US once central bankers can no longer halt the next market crash which they themselves have guaranteed with 606 rate cuts and $13 trillion in liquidity injections.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/02/15 06:55 PM

Elle said:

"your very off-topic and off many other things. If you want to discussed further what we have exchanged concerning – Jesuit infiltration, the preserving of EGW writings without the need to canonized it, etc… it is good & the rule here to open another discussion."


Elle, it may seem that I am off topic; however, you are expounding interpretations of biblical prophesy that directly contradict the Spirit of Prophesy.  This renders your points completely untenable and is the reason for my repeated appeals for you to believe the writings of Sister White.


For instance in your original post, you claim the identity of "Mystery Babylon" is "(the 1% Elite)".

Ellen White, GC 382.2, states:

"The woman (Babylon) of Revelation 17 is described as “arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness:...and upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots.” Says the prophet: “I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.” Babylon is further declared to be “that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” Revelation 17:4-6, 18. The power that for so many centuries maintained despotic sway over the monarchs of Christendom is Rome."

She identifies Mystery Babylon as the Roman Catholic Church.  Not "the 1%"!

Your view of prophesy (an earthly millennium, a financial basis for the new kingdom, misidentification of at least one of the Beasts of Revelation, fiat currency as the Mark of the Beast rather than Sunday Law!), these all directly contradict the Spirit of Prophesy!

Since this is a Seventh Day Adventist forum, it seems reasonable to compare theories such as yours to our fundamental beliefs.  After all, this site is for SDA members and friends of the SDA Church.  It is a wolf-free zone, so to speak.  It is NOT an ecumenical gathering place for other churches (God's Kingdom Ministries) to proselytize.  There are plenty of sites for that sort of thing.

You have an interesting slant on end time events; however, it is far from being that of a Seventh Day Adventist.  

Your profile states that you are an SDA member.  Do you accept as true the 28 Fundamental Beliefs?

How about Fundamental Belief #18, The Gift of Prophecy:

"One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen. G. White. As the Lord’s messenger, her writings are a CONTINUING and AUTHORITATIVE source of truth which provide for the church comfort, GUIDANCE, INSTRUCTION, and CORRECTION."


Elle, forgive me if I appear to be off topic, but the fact is that if your prophetic interpretations blatantly contradict the writings of Ellen White, then true Seventh Day Adventists will reject them.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/02/15 08:25 PM

Elle said:

"I must remind you that you have brought forth a public false accusation based on false biblical grounds on me and our brother Stephen. I do think you know how to remedied this so you won't appear as a malicious witness in front of the heavenly court."


Elle, believe me, my "witness" was never intended to be "malicious". Quite the opposite. I have acted only out of love and concern, both for you and the body of Christ. It saddens me to see you turn away from the Light God has poured out upon you.

You have charged me with publically accusing you and "brother" Stephen on false biblical grounds. You have done so in this thread, so I will answer you here.

"Brother" Stephen encourages his followers to break the Commandments of God with cleverly spun sophistry. Complex distortions of feast days and New Moon nonsense, designed to nullify the clear and simple thus saith the Lord to "Remember the Sabbath Day!"

If the Sabbath somehow magically cycled over to Sunday, why is the New Testament silent about the change? Why did Sister White not bother to mention it? It seems like a rather large oversight, surely someone should have pointed out the changeover?

"Brother" Stephen also, uses a link on his God's Kingdom Ministries website to direct unsuspecting followers to a man who claims to be the "Savior" and "Creator"! If you like, I can quote you the biblical warning concerning the spirit of Antichrist, but sadly, I believe you already know it.

Your "brother" Stephen Jones is a deceiver, who twists God's pure and simple Word until it is a complex tangle, a sticky web, mangled beyond recognition. He is truely a wolf among the Sheep!


You are so certain that our Lord has been completely powerless to prevent Jesuit infiltrators from influencing the published Spirit of Prophesy.
Have you considered your own actions on this site: speaking out against the Sabbath, denigrating God's Last Day Prophet?

Elle, you appear to be a polite, intelligent, and open hearted lady: perhaps too open hearted. If the purpose of the Jesuit infiltration is to tear down the pillars of Seventh Day Adventism, then you serve their purpose beautifully...



Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/03/15 03:12 AM

My comment: A good summary of Canada's current investments outflow with all of this economic shaking.

Forget China: This Extremely "Developed" Country Just Suffered Its Biggest Money Outflow Ever
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-02...ney-outflow-eve

11/02/2015

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While understandably all eyes have been fixed on every monthly capital outflow update from China (even the ones that the Politburo is clearly massaging), few have noticed that one of the biggest total outflows currently in the global developed economy is taking place right in America's own back yard.

According to BofA's Kamal Sharma, Canada’s basic balance - a combination of the capital and the current account: a measure of national accounts that spans everything from trade to financial-market flows - swung from a surplus of 4.2% of GDP to a deficit of 7.9% in the 12 months ending in June. That’s the fastest one-year deterioration among 10 major developed nations.

Citing Sharma's data Bloomberg writes that "money is flooding out of Canada at the fastest pace in the developed world as the nation’s decade-long oil boom comes to an end and little else looks ready to take the industry’s place as an economic driver." In fact, based on the chart below, the outflow is the fastest on record.
"This is Canadian investors that are pushing money abroad," said Alvise Marino, a foreign-exchange strategist at Credit Suisse Group AG in New York. "The policy in Canada the last 10 years has greatly favored investments in energy. Now the drop in oil prices made all that investment unprofitable."

The reasons for the accelerating otflows are familiar, or mostly one reason: the collapse in crude oil, among the nation’s biggest exports, has dropped to half of its 2014 peak. "The slump has derailed projects this year in Canada’s oil sands - one of the world’s most expensive crude-producing regions. Royal Dutch Shell Plc’s decision to put its Carmon Creek drilling project on ice last week lengthened that list to 18, according to ARC Financial Corp."

Worse, there does not appear to be any improvement, despite the recent stabilization in Brent prices:

More recent data on where companies and mutual-fund investors are putting their money show the trend extended into the second half of the year, suggesting demand for the Canadian dollar and the country’s assets is still ebbing. The currency is already down 11 percent this year, after touching an 11-year low against the U.S. dollar in September.
Where is all this capital going? Canadian companies have been looking abroad for acquisitions. Royal Bank of Canada is expected to close its $5.4 billion purchase of Los Angeles-based City National Corp. Monday, its biggest-ever takeover. It’s part of a net outflow of C$73 billion this year for mergers and acquisitions, both completed and announced, according to Credit Suisse data.

Canada's stock market confirms this trend: nine of the 10 best-performing companies on the country’s benchmark stock index in the past two years have favored buying growth abroad rather than expanding at home.

Individuals are following suit.

"While international appetite for Canadian financial securities has held steady this year, domestic mutual-fund investors have pulled money from Canada-focused funds and plowed it into global choices for six straight months, the longest streak in two years, according to Investment Funds Institute of Canada data compiled by Bank of Montreal."
Bloomberg calculates that more weakness for the CAD, and more capital outflows, are on deck as the Canadian dollar has to get cheaper to make Canadian businesses outside of the oil industry competitive enough with foreign peers to make them worth investing in, according to Benjamin Reitzes, an economist at Bank of Montreal.

Canada's economic weakness was recently confirmed when it reported two months ago that it had entered its first recession since the financial crisis.

Earlier today, Canada's manufacturing sector got even more bad news when the latest RBC Canadian Manufacturing PMI survey dropped to a record low in October, with output, new orders and employment all declining since the previous month. Moreover, new export sales dropped for the first time since April, with survey respondents noting that weaker global economic conditions had weighed on new business volumes.

In other words, not even the tumbling loonie is helping boost exports: a bedrock assumption of modern monetary policy.

Meanwhile, input costs rose at a sharp and accelerated pace in October, which placed pressure on operating margins and contributed to a further slight increase in factory gate charges.

Finally, the country is expected to post its 12th straight merchandise trade deficit this week, according to every economist in a Bloomberg survey.

Perhaps it is ironic: a year after we predicted the death of the petrodollar would cripple Emerging Markets around the globe (something which was confirmed in the China devaluation/EM debt crisis of 2015) the nation most impacted by the collapse in oil is neither China, nor - as many had expected - Russia, but what to many is a bedrock of economic stability: the AAA rated Canada.

How long until not Putin but Harper's successor is seen in the White House, begging Obama to put an end to QE so that the US shale sector, thanks to infinite junk bond refills courtesy of the Federal Reserve and "investors" allocating other people's money, will mercifully die and prevent Canada's economy from sliding from recession into an outright depression?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/03/15 08:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne

Elle, I believe that you have been drawn toward some unhealthy spiritual influences as a direct result of your rejection of much of the Spirit of Prophesy.
You told me that you have little confidence in the writings of Ellen White after the death of James White.

misrepresenting information... I did not refer to myself but to others. I said the following :
Originally Posted By: elle
.... So to me those that suspect any writings beyond 1881 is not that far fetch.


Elle, why did you say that? Your statement in itself says it is you yourself:
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.... So to me those that suspect any writings beyond 1881 is not that far fetch.

And then with what ProdigalOne presented forth, you are accusing him of misrepresenting but about the only thing he could be accused is an understatement. What are you trying to pull?

Are you a shim?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/08/15 09:47 PM

US Debt Is 3 Times More Than You Think" Warns Former Chief US Accountant
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-08...cans-have-lost-
11/08/2015
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In a shocking admission for most of mainstream America, the former U.S. comptroller general says the real U.S. debt is closer to about $65 trillion than the oft-cited figure of $18 trillion, thanks to unfunded liabilities which simply cannot be ignored. As The Hill reports, unless economic growth accelerates, he warns, "you’re not going to be able to provide the kind of social safety net that we need in this country," adding unequivocially that Americans have "lost touch with reality" when it comes to spending.

As The Hill reports,

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Dave Walker, who headed the Government Accountability Office (GAO) under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, said when you add up all of the nation’s unfunded liabilities, the national debt is more than three times the number generally advertised.

“If you end up adding to that $18.5 trillion the unfunded civilian and military pensions and retiree healthcare, the additional underfunding for Social Security, the additional underfunding for Medicare, various commitments and contingencies that the federal government has, the real number is about $65 trillion rather than $18 trillion, and it’s growing automatically absent reforms,” Walker told host John Catsimatidis on “The Cats Roundtable” on New York’s AM-970 in an interview airing Sunday.

The former comptroller general, who is in charge of ensuring federal spending is fiscally responsible, said a burgeoning national debt hampers the ability of government to carry out both domestic and foreign policy initiatives.

“If you don’t keep your economy strong, and that means to be able to generate more jobs and opportunities, you’re not going to be strong internationally with regard to foreign policy, you’re not going to be able to invest what you need to invest in national defense and homeland security, and ultimately you’re not going to be able to provide the kind of social safety net that we need in this country,” he said.

He said Americans have “lost touch with reality” when it comes to spending.

Walker called for Democrats and Republicans to put aside partisan politics to come together to fix the problem.

"You can be a Democrat, you can be a Republican, you can be unaffiliated, you can be whatever you want, but your duty of loyalty needs to be to country rather than to party, and we need to solve some of the large, known, and growing problems that we have,” he said.
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Of course, that is to say nothing of the other unfunded liability - America's Pension Ponzi, as we detailed previously...

Just how big of a problem is this you ask? Well, pretty big, according to Moody’s which, as we noted last month, contends that the largest 25 public pensions are underfunded by some $2 trillion.

It’s against that backdrop that we present the following graphic and color from Goldman which together demonstrate the amount by which state and local governments would need to raise contributions to "bring plans into balance over time."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/11/15 04:39 PM

My comment: A good compilation of what is currently happening in Canada.

"It's A Bloodbath" - Here Is The Biggest Casualty Of Canada's Recession
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-11/its-bloodbath-here-biggest-casualty-canadas-recession

11/11/2015
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In the past year, we have extensively profiled the collapse of ground zero of Canada's oil industry, Calgary, as a result of the plunge in the price of oil, in posts such as the following:

-"Canada Crude Contagion: Calgary Home Prices Drop Most In 2 Years"
-"Canada's Biggest Oil Casualty To Date: Calgary's Nexen Shutters Oil Trading Desk"
-"The Canadian Housing Bubble Has Begun To Burst"
-"Canada's Oil Patch Confidence Crashes"
-"Canada Mauled by Oil Bust, Job Losses Pile Up – Housing Bubble, Banks at Risk"
-"The Stage Is Set For A Massive Housing Market Correction in Canada's Oilpatch"

Since then it has only gotten worse for Canada, and as of two it culminated with the first official recession in 7 years.

Additionally, in September we profiled the expected collapse of the Calgary commercial real estate market when we reported that in Alberta Canada now has 1.7 million square feet of empty office space, the most in North America, with another 5.2 million under construction! After years of booming construction, the natural resource rich country is starting to feel the pinch.

Overnight Bloomberg followed up on this stunning deterioration when it, too, reported that "office-tower owners in Canada’s energy hub are about to feel the full force of the oil-price crash."

Using data from real estate brokers including Jones Lang LaSalle Inc. and Avison Young, Bloomberg calculates that vacancy is already at a five-year high in Calgary and rents are the lowest since 2006 after thousands of office jobs were cut. Energy company tenants have now begun to ask for rental relief and are offering subleases for as little as half the going rate.

The backlog is even worse: five new office towers with about 3.8 million square feet (353,031 square meters) of space hits the market in the next three years.

End result: if one ignores shadow vacancy rates, it is "only" as bad as 2010. If one adds shadow vacancy, or space leased but sitting empty, the rate jumps to 16%, the highest since the mid-1980s.

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In downtown Calgary, the vacancy rate jumped to 14 percent in the third quarter, the highest since 2010 and compared with 5 percent for downtown Toronto, according to CBRE Group Inc. Companies are subleasing a record 2.7 million square feet, the brokerage said. That doesn’t include as much as 2 million square feet of so-called "shadow vacancy" or space leased but sitting empty, which would push vacancy to 16 percent, the most since the mid-1980s.

As for Canada in general, the vacany rate has already surpassed the 2009 highs.

The following comment from Alexi Olcheski, an office-leasing principal at Avison Young from his office in downtown Calgary, says it all:
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"It is a bloodbath. We’re at the highest point of fear and uncertainty now."

The real estate mauling is impacting the public stocks of office REITs: "caught in the downturn are tower owners including Dream Office REIT, Artis REIT and Morguard Corp., whose shares have dropped about 27 percent, 14 percent and 5.1 percent respectively over the past 12 months. The Standard & Poor’s/TSX Capped REIT Index is down 8.7 percent over the same period compared with a 8.2 percent drop in the broad S&P/TSX Composite Index. U.S. crude has dropped more than half since its peak in June 2014 to hover around $45 a barrel."


Some more examples of how the collapse in oil prices is spreading through the economy, which is on the verge of grinding to a halt:
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Penn West Plaza, owned by developer Morguard, is among the buildings with empty floors. About 38 percent of its 621,628 square feet of office space is on the market for sublease, according to leasing documents. The going rate for the penthouse of the West tower is “negotiable” while occupancy is “immediate” for other floors, according to the ads. Morguard didn’t return phone calls and e-mails seeking comment.

Employment at Penn West Petroleum Ltd. shrank to less than 800 workers this year from about 2,250 three years ago. Athabasca Oil Corp., which eliminated more than 25 percent of its workforce last month, has been subleasing from Penn West and is also trying to find tenants to take some space off its hands, according to listings.

Even Calgary’s most iconic tower, completed just a few years ago, isn’t immune. The 58-story Bow, Canada’s second-largest office building at 2.0 million square feet, is owned by H&R REIT and leased until 2038 to Encana Corp., the real estate firm’s largest tenant by revenue. Encana subleases 1 million square feet to Cenovus Energy Inc., which in turn aims to vacate and sublease half of that, according to Reg Curren, a Cenovus spokesman. Together, the firms cut about 1,500 jobs this year, part of the 36,000 job losses at energy companies across Canada since the oil rout began.
Perhaps it is time for Canada to implement double seasonally-adjusted initial claims reports too and to pull a BLS, showing how despite reality, the job market is flying.

For now one thing is preventing an all out real-estate disaster: subleasing, but even that is at best cutting losses by half, with subleases done at 50% of the original cost. This had lead to rents dropping to C$20.75 a square foot in downtown Calgary, the lowest since at least 2006.

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Subleasing is in overdrive and has helped buffer landlords from the impact of the oil slump. Avison Young’s Olcheski said he made his first quadruple sublease earlier this year, when a technology firm rented space from a company several leases removed from the main energy tenant.

But the subleases are being done at as little as 50 percent of the original cost, according to Damien Mills, executive vice president and managing director of Western Canada for JLL. Rents have dropped to C$20.75 a square foot in downtown Calgary, the lowest since at least 2006, according to the brokerage.
Which means one thing: more equity downside, and more layoffs: "Landlords now are forced to compete with somebody that’s looking for a very different return on their real estate cost," Mills said. Some owners are already feeling the pain. Two-thirds of Dream Office’s space in Calgary expires in the years up to 2019 and only 13 percent has been picked up, according to company documents.

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"With a smaller tenant size relative to most landlords, we believe this reduces leasing rollover risk as these tenants tend to be leaner, resulting in less headcount reductions during an economic downturn," Rajeev Viswanathan, chief financial officer of Dream Office, said by e-mail. The company is also aggressively pursuing smaller tenants, he said.
But the worst news: another influx of soon to be completed office space means another 2 million square feet in rental availability are about to hit the market, sending rents to what may soon be record lows.

Artis REIT, which has 20 office buildings in Calgary with tenants including power generator TransAlta Corp., has 2.2 million square feet uncommitted starting in 2016, according to company documents. Artis executives didn’t respond to requests seeking comment.


In addition to the current glut of space, five office towers -- each with at least 430,000 square feet -- are due for completion in the next three years in Calgary, some only 36 percent leased as of October.

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Olcheski, who’s worked in Calgary for about 10 years, is trying to remain optimistic amid the uncertainty. It’s going to be his best year yet for leases to smaller, non-energy tenants, for example.

What happens then? Nobody knows, or rather, only god does: "God only knows what’ll happen if oil doesn’t rebound," he said. "I try not to let that penetrate my mind."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/12/15 01:27 AM

China Is Canceling the Debt of the World’s Most Impoverished Nations

http://thehigherlearning.com/2015/09/29/...rished-nations/

September 29, 2015
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Since the 1990s, a major part of Chinese foreign policy has been to invest in developing countries around the world.

This includes private investments, like the billion-dollar solar project being spearheaded by a Chinese energy company in Ghana or the multibillion-dollar canal being built by a Chinese infrastructure firm in Nicaragua.

It also includes public investment projects like the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, which was launched earlier this year to help fund infrastructure projects in impoverished Asian countries (and to reduce the amount of influence wielded by the U.S.-led investment banks).

On Saturday, Chinese President Xi Jinping made yet another commitment to help economic growth in the developing world, announcing that China would be canceling the debts of the world’s least developed countries.

President Xi made the announcement while addressing a United Nations summit on global development goals. During his speech, he also pledged to establish a $2 billion fund dedicated to improving conditions in the most impoverished countries around the world.

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“Looking around the world, the peace and development remain the two major themes of the times,”

President Xi told attendees at the summit in New York. He continued,

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“To solve various global challenges, including the recent refugee crisis in Europe, the fundamental solutions lie in seeking peace and realising development. Facing with various challenges and difficulties, we must keep hold of the key of the development. Only the development can eliminate the causes of the conflicts.”

Xi’s speech came a day after the UN unveiled its new Global Goals for Sustainable Development, an ambitious plan that aims to eradicate poverty and hunger in the next 15 years.

Coincidentally, China played a key role in helping the UN achieve its previous poverty reduction goals as well — BBC correspondent James Robbins explains,

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It was China’s extraordinary record shifting so many families out the ranks of the poor which ensured that the overall global record in poverty reduction under the previous Millennium Development Goals was substantial.

China’s new pledge of financial support, as well as its promise to forgive the debts of the world’s poorest countries, show a continued commitment to the goal of reducing poverty worldwide.

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“The world is going through a historical process of accelerated evolution. The sunshine of peace, development and progress will be powerful enough to penetrate the clouds of war, poverty and backwardness,”

President Xi said.

Read more from the BBC. Read a full transcript of President Xi’s speech from Quartz.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/12/15 03:40 AM

Did zerohedge ever admit their report on Carson was false?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/13/15 01:53 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Are you a shim?
Not shim. I believe "shill" is the word.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/13/15 01:43 PM

TPP Text Finally Released … It’s Even Worse Than We Thought

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/11/tpp-text-finally-released-its-even-worse-than-we-thought.html

November 5, 2015
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As we’ve noted in hundreds of articles, the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a horrible pact which would destroy everything that America stands for. And see this, this, this and this.

The full text of the TPP was finally released today after years of secrecy … and it’s even worse than we thought.

One of America’s top TPP experts – Lori Wallach, director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch – said:

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Apparently, the TPP’s proponents resorted to such extreme secrecy during negotiations because the text shows TPP would offshore more American jobs, lower our wages, flood us with unsafe imported food and expose our laws to attack in foreign tribunals.

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From leaks, we knew quite a bit about the agreement, but in chapter after chapter the final text is worse than we expected with the demands of the 500 official U.S. trade advisers representing corporate interests satisfied to the detriment of the public interest.

Common Dreams explains how TPP would reduce our food safety:

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With its provisions that tie the hands of food inspectors at international borders and give more power to biotechnology firms, “the TPP is a giveaway to big agribusiness and food companies,” said Wenonah Hauter, Food & Water Watch executive director. Such corporate entities, she said, want to use trade deals like the TPP “to attack sensible food safety rules, weaken the inspection of imported food, and block efforts to strengthen U.S. food safety standards.”

Last month, the Center for Food Safety outlined the top five reasons “eaters should be worried about Obama’s new trade deal.” At the top of the list was the TPP’s ability to undermine efforts to label GMO foods. “More broadly,” the Center wrote in October, “any U.S. food safety rules on labeling, pesticides, or additives that [are] higher than international standards could be subject to challenge as ‘illegal trade barriers’.”

Indeed, according to Food & Water Watch, the final text released Thursday indicates that under a TPP regime, “agribusiness and biotech seed companies can now more easily use trade rules to challenge countries that ban GMO imports, test for GMO contamination, do not promptly approve new GMO crops or even require GMO labeling.”

“The TPP food safety and labeling provisions are worse than expected and bad news for American consumers and farmers,” said Hauter. “Congress must reject this raw deal that handcuffs food safety inspectors and exposes everyone to a rising tide of unsafe imported food.”


And Tech Crunch notes that TPP could dramatically reduce our privacy.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/13/15 04:23 PM

Just notice this post which is worth clarifying.
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
I came to most of what I believe today via studying at Adventist Forums before I ever heard of Stephen Jones.

But note you said you get your stuff at forums, not from the church.

The Forums were all Adventist by which the great majority of the people there are SDAs and ARE the Church.

These are the Adventist forums I have studied at for a good lenght of time. I have joined many other SDA Forums but did not stay long as they were too "bloodthirsty". If you have the time to read, you will see how I came to what I believe today which was before I read any of Stephen's stuff.

I am "Blessings" at Adventist Online : link

I am "daisy" at Restoration Ministry : link

I have spent most of my studying here on this forum as I find it more effective for the adminsitration does a good job to keep people on the subject and away from attacking individuals.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/14/15 06:32 AM


Unfortunately, it is impossible to be absolutely certain of who you are really studying with on such sites. Maritime SDA Online has the most stringent membership requirements I have seen on any SDA site. Even so, in my short time here, I have discovered more than one person pretending to be a Seventh Day Adventist in order to undermine our Church and lead trusting souls away from the simple Truth in Christ.

The number of undercover proselytizers on less protected sites must be truely staggering!
Posted By: JAK

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/14/15 07:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle


I am "Blessings" at Adventist Online : link

I am "daisy" at Restoration Ministry : link


Elle, are you also on World Wide Adventist Forum at Club Adventist?

http://clubadventist.com
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/14/15 07:24 PM

Originally Posted By: JAK
Originally Posted By: Elle

I am "Blessings" at Adventist Online : link

I am "daisy" at Restoration Ministry : link

Elle, are you also on World Wide Adventist Forum at Club Adventist?

http://clubadventist.com

I did join clubadventist, but wasn't there more than a couple of days.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/14/15 11:49 PM

Oops....deleted .... posted in the wrong discussion... sorry
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/15/15 12:06 AM

Oops....deleted. posted the same thing in the wrong discussion twice... Sorry again. I tried to delete these posts as the elapse time of 1 hour was not over...but couldn't even after only 5 minutes??? So why is there a delete button available if I cannot delete it after 5 minutes of posting???
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/15/15 06:36 PM

Yuan set to become a world currency

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...world-currency/

by Stephen Jones

Nov 14, 2015

"Last May the US-controlled IMF announced their decision to delay China’s currency from becoming part of the SDR basket of currencies for nine months until September 2016. This announcement recognized that the yuan would eventually have to join the US dollar, the euro, the pound, and the Japanese yen, just because of China’s huge amount of world trade. However, the US wanted to postpone its inclusion as long as possible, citing the usual “concerns” that are really just lame excuses.

China fought back, refusing to take no for an answer. A series of chemical plant explosions in China in August suggested that a covert war was taking place between the CIA and China. No doubt this resulted in some high-level secret meetings between the US and China, with some sort of agreement signed in September when Xi Jinping visited the White House.

At any rate, the Chinese have proceeded as if the yuan will be included in the SDR. They have the support of the British government, which has again abandoned the US after joining the AIIB last March. Now Britain supports China’s request for inclusion. Likewise, Christine Legarde, the head of the IMF, also supports China’s inclusion.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...currency-basket

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China’s yuan is poised to enter the big leagues of global currencies, according to the judgment of the International Monetary Fund.

IMF staff have recommended the yuan be included in the fund’s Special Drawing Rights reserve-currency basket, alongside the U.S. dollar, euro, pound and yen, IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde said Friday. The staff nod makes approval by the fund’s board this month all but certain….

This “is a very clear and strong endorsement,” said Brendan Ahern, managing director of Krane Fund Advisors LLC in New York. “No hesitation, no ifs, no buts. Very strong recommendation from Christine Lagarde. It isn’t a vote but at the same time it is hard to find any reasons to disagree….”

The report will inform the IMF executive board, which represents the fund’s 188 member nations, ahead of a meeting planned for Nov. 30 to consider the matter. The IMF is wrapping up its twice-a-decade review of the composition of the SDR basket….

Standard Chartered Plc and AXA Investment Managers have predicted at least $1 trillion of global reserves will convert to Chinese assets if the yuan joins the IMF’s reserve basket….

The U.S. took a step toward backing China’s SDR bid in September, when it softened its insistence that the Chinese implement financial reforms to win support….

Chinese officials had since become explicit in their ambitions for the yuan to gain the status at the IMF. After meeting President Barack Obama in September at the White House, President Xi thanked the U.S. for its conditional support for the yuan joining the SDR.


The IMF meeting was postponed from October 20 to early November, and now it is being planned for November 30, 2015. This is the date to watch.

When the yuan is included in the SDR reserve-currency basket, world trade will soon be done in SDR’s, rather than in the dollar per se. This will have enormous financial implications for the other currencies. The Bloomberg article quotes economists predicting that “at least $1 trillion of global reserves will convert to Chinese assets.” This means that central banks will be reducing their stash of the other currencies (including the US dollar) in order to make room for the yuan. This prospect, in fact, is the real reason why the US government has resisted the yuan’s inclusion for many years. They know that the US dollar’s value will suffer as demand for it drops.

Gold may also be included as a sixth currency in the SDR basket. If this is done, gold will once again be monetized, and its demand (and value) will increase further."
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/17/15 01:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Just notice this post which is worth clarifying.
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
I came to most of what I believe today via studying at Adventist Forums before I ever heard of Stephen Jones.

But note you said you get your stuff at forums, not from the church.

The Forums were all Adventist by which the great majority of the people there are SDAs and ARE the Church.
Well I should have said the Bible rather than the church. But let's go with it.

Since someone is a member of the church, and they post on a forum, you get your stuff from forums.

And I'm a member of the church, so why are you not believing what I say?

Quote:

These are the Adventist forums I have studied at for a good lenght of time. I have joined many other SDA Forums but did not stay long as they were too "bloodthirsty". If you have the time to read, you will see how I came to what I believe today which was before I read any of Stephen's stuff.
Hmmm. "bloodthirsty"? Sounds like you are saying they disagree with you. So do you get your stuff from forums, or from Stephen Jones, or from someone else, or just from within your own head?

Since you don't believe what some on other forums say, and I don't know of many you believe here, what is your standard for knowing whether to believe or not?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/27/15 02:57 AM

My comment : China, the futur leading country, is doing a major cleanup in their country by prosecuting and putting in jail bankers, stock traders, and now precious metal dealers. Last August, China stock market took a severe plunge. I wouldn't be surprise that Mystery Babylon was behind it as it is in their interest to bring China and Russia down. So we've been seeing since some cleanup. There's some other problems like Market bubbles about to burse. We'll see how all things will pan up as not only China has these problems.

After Arresting Hundreds Of Stock Traders, China Cracks Down On "Malicious" Metals Sellers Next

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-26...tals-sellers-ne
Tyler Durden on 11/26/2015

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Five months ago, in the aftermath of its biggest market crash since 2008, China unleashed an unprecedented series of measures to stem the selling tide, none more mindblowing than its threat (which was promptly executed) to arrest "malicious short sellers" or even worse. It did just that as the following stories recount:

-China "Punishes" Hundreds For "Maliciously" Manipulating The Market
-China Arrests Three High Frequency Traders For "Destabilizing The Market And Profiting From Volatility"
-Chinese Authorities Arrest 'King Of IPOs' & 'Hedge Fund Brother No. 1'
-Partner Of "China's Carl Icahn" Executed By Local Police After Attempting Escape Following Insider Trading Charges
-"We Arrested Some Folks" - How China "Fixed" Its Stock Market
-Chinese Hedge Fund Manager Denies She Was Arrested, Was Merely "Meditating"

The result of all these ridiculous interventions was two-fold: China effectively killed the market, as can be seen by the following chart of volume on China's futures market, until recently the world's biggest which overnight evaporated after China made it practically impossible to trade anything...


... and as a result of the PBOC being the last standing player, the Chinese "stock market" would now trade precisely as its central planners demanded it to. Too bad nobody else will participate.

But now that China has gotten its stock "market" under control, it was time to focus on a market that is far more important to China's economy - that of commodities. After all, while several dozen million may have gotten very rich and then very poor over the summer, the implications of the Chinese stock bubble and subsequent burst were mostly contained. However, when it comes to plunging commodity prices, these have a far greater impact on both China, where fixed investment is about 50% of GDP, and as a result impact everyone, as well as the world.

And as we reported yesterday, China will soon commence "fixing" the commodity market (which has seen its worst collapse since 2008 in the past year) by engaging in what will be the first bailout of its domestic metals producers since 2009:

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The state-controlled metals industry body, China Nonferrous Metals Industry Association, proposed on Monday that the government scoop up aluminum, nickel and minor metals including cobalt and indium, an official at the association and two industry sources with direct knowledge of the matter said. The request was made to the state planner, the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC).

... while the proposal does not include copper, it is likely to revive memories of 2009, when the State Reserve Bureau (SRB) in Beijing swooped in to buy more than 700,000 tonnes of copper on the domestic and international markets. Prices were languishing at around $3,000 per tonne at the time, and the buying spree reversed the falls and ultimately helped to propel prices to record highs above $10,000 per tonne in February, 2011.

The news spread like wildfire overnight, and sent copper, aluminum, zine, and the rest of the metals complex surging. However, the price spike will hardly last long: "any policy support from the government and smelters subsidies to smelters or joint production cuts, will be short-lived forces and won’t change the bigger picture of a market glut. Prices may be impacted temporarily," said Qi Ding, Beijing-based analyst at Essence Securities.

So as a plan B, the same metals industry group that is reeling and understands it is one foot in the grave unless commodity prices pick up and which earlier this week demanded a government bailout, or "QEmmodity" soaking up all excess production, has doubled down and according to Bloomberg the China Nonferrous Metals Industry Association has submitted a request to Chinese regulators to probe "malicious" short-selling in domestic metal contracts amid recent price declines.

What is even more insane, is that China will do just that, in the process breaking what little is left of a domestic commodity market next.

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Regulators have begun to collect some records of trading activity following a request from the China Nonferrous Metals Industry Association, according to the people, who asked not to be identified because they aren’t authorized to speak publicly on the matter. Nobody answered calls to the industry association’s general office.

Remember: it is always the "malicious" sellers who are the cause of all the world's problems, never the "malicious" buyers, especially when said buyers are the central banks themselves.

Irony aside, if indeed China does buckle under the demands of its commodity producers and unleashes what is effectively a "commodity QE" while at the same time arresting anyone who sells or shorts commodities, there is no telling what will happen to the prices of commodities which may - if only over the near term - soar to unprecedented levels, unleashing even greater excess production and capacity, which would entail that instead of merely arresting "malicious" sellers one year from now, China's politburo will have to summarily execute, on prime time TV, each and every one of them.

One thing is certain: since a market in which the government is about to set prices at whim, and where sellers will be "put away" no longer has any price discovery and is anything but a "market", China's commodity prices are about to see an unprecedented disconnect from the supply/demand constraints of reality, and even more pent up humor when this latest forced attempt to reflate a bubble finally blows up.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/27/15 08:14 PM

So I guess we are not going to hear why you say you get your stuff from forums, but not really.

Me thinks it is from Stephen Jones, Heutoff or whatshisname.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/29/15 04:46 PM

My Comment : We are currently seeing the Kings of the East war against Mystery Babylon increasing the pressure. While China is taking care of the economic war front against Babylon, we have Russia who is taking the military front. Like it was in the past destruction of Old Babylon with the collaboration between King Cyrus of Persia and King Darius the Medes who took the military side. Since the Blood Moon we have seen Russia(=Darius) waging war straight on against ISIS and indirectly against its supporters (US, Israel, Turkey, Saudi, and Qatar). For China to set a successful economic restructure and to bring on a Jubilee in the world, ISSIS creators and supporters needs to be neutralized by being exposed. The man of sin needs to be revealed right?

Remember, Mystery(secret) Babylon’s power lies in being SECRET and being able to control countries by establishing puppet government and taking their sovereignty away and establishing their banking system so to enslave the population and take all their possession. So the war is not really against ISSIS but against Mystery Babylon who uses ISSIS for its purposes to overthrow Middle Eastern countries down and so to be able to establish their puppet ruler, change laws, steal their wealth, and establish their slave-producing-banking-economic system. Attacking the Middle East is Pike’s World War III plan to establish the Luciferian worship system. Are they going to succeed – it doesn’t appear so.

Recently, Russia is unmasking Turkey and its collaboration with ISSIS.

I have gathered some news clips focusing on what has happened in this war against ISSIS (& its supporters) since the Blood Moon(Sept 28th) so we do not loose sight of all has happened and seeing the progression of Russia’s victory in just the last 2 Months.

Please do note that Russia did more in helping Syria just the first few days what the US couldn’t do with all its allies in the past 5 years. Go figure!

Pre-Planning to take care of ISIS Between Syria and Russia

Sept 19 – Clock Ticks On US Syria Strategy As Assad Pounds ISIS Targets, Russia Sends Fighter Jets
Sept 22 – 2,000 Russian Troops Head To Syria For "First Phase" Of Mission To Support Assad

War against ISIS starts after the blood Moon

Sept 30 –Caught On Tape: Dramatic Footage Of Russia's First Airstrikes In Syria
Oct 14 –The Fall Of The Unipower: Russia Is Defeating More Than ISIS In Syria

Oct 20 – Russia "Confirms" It Has Plans To Restore Assad Government In Syria


Mystery Babylon strikes Russia and Egypt

Oct 31 – Russian Metrojet plane carrying 224 people crashed in Sinai province, Egypt says. There were no survivors

Why get Egypt also ? – remember the people ousted the Muslim Brotherhood puppet government install by Mystery Babylon. So this event affected their touristic economy.

Russia Continue War against ISSIS more aggressively

-Nov 9th --Russian jets pulverize 448 infrastructural Daesh targets in Syria
Nov 17th -- Caught On Tape: Russian Cruise Missile Flies Above Syria As Moscow Deploys Strategic Bombers

Nov 21th – Massive Russian blanket air bombardment is flattening Raqqa . Raqqa is ISIS “capital” city.

Nov 22nd – "The end is near": Russian airstrikes leave ISIS with only 34 bases

Nov 23rd – Russia Modernizing S-300 Missile System for Iran


Nov 23rd – Russian airstrikes destroy 472 terrorist targets in Syria in 48 hours, 1,000 oil tankers in 5 days


Mystery Babylon makes a Move via Turkey against Russia

Nov 24th – Turkish F-16s Shoot Down Russian Su-24 Warplane Near Syria Border

Nov 25th – Russia Says Turkey's Attack On Jet Was "Planned Provocation" As Ankara Moves Tanks Near Syrian Border


Russia Re-inforce Syrian Airbase with a S400 that can bring down aircrafts from a radius of 250 miles which cover ½ of Turkey airspace and even North of Israel

Nov 25th – S400 to Syria - Putin seals Syria's Airspace


Nov 27th –Turkey suspends flights over Syria, Russia launches electronic warfare against Ankara
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Turkey suspended its flights over Syria as part of its partnership with the US for air strikes against the Islamic State. According to DEBKAfile’s military sources, Ankara decided to avoid the risk of being shot down by the highly advanced Russian S-300 and S-400 anti-air missile systems newly deployed to Syria.

…. DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources report that since Wednesday night, Nov. 25, Russian heavy bombers and warplanes have been hitting every Turkish vehicle moving or stationary inside Syria.

…. Putin has made no allegations. He simply sent his bombers to destroy the organization's vehicles and plough up their parking area on the Syrian side of the border. He also refuses to take calls from Erdogan.

All these circumstances are features of a very active war waged between the two countries - albeit on Syrian soil - since Turkish warplanes downed the Russian Su-24….

…His bombers are not only settling accounts with Erdogan, but continuing to attack the Syrian rebel groups which received military aid from the US, France, Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Israel, both in northern Syria and also in the south, only a few kilometers from Syria’s borders with Israel and Jordan.


France joins with Russia instead of NATO after French Terrorist attack

Nov 26th –‘Fighting common evil’: Putin, Hollande agree to share intelligence on terrorist targets in Syria


Russia focuses on destroying all ISSIS oil smugglling infrastructures

Nov 27th – ‘Commercial scale’ oil smuggling into Turkey becomes priority target of anti-ISIS strikes


Russia sanctions Turkey

Nov 28th—Russia Retaliates: Putin Reveals Sanctions Against Turkey



My Conclusion

We see above that Russia very aggressively took care of ISIS and its supporters in less than 2 months. Right now Turkey or the US doesn’t dare continue their Syrian assault via airstrikes under the false pretext they were there to help as they have in the past 5 years.

Last year, I saw two reports showing Turkey involve with ISIS: #1. A leaked recorded conversation of Turkey’s general with the US foreign Minister and a few others plotting a false flag in Syria to start a war. #2. The killing of a woman news reporter in Syria who was on site reporting Turkey’s involvement with ISIS.

Also President Erdo&#287;an’s son, Bilal, was caught last year receiving 100 millions from a big Saudi fundraiser to make sure ISIS oil Smuggling into Turkey continues..

Jan 2014 – Erdogan's Son Caught with Al-Qaeda Fina...ria into Turkey
Nov 25 -- Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President


Not only President Erdo&#287;an’s son is profiting from ISIS oil business but also the President daughter, Sümeyye who is in charge of a secret hospital to treat ISIS wounded men to send them back into the battle field.
Oct 24 -- Erdogan’s Dirty Dangerous ISIS Games

Turkey’s citizens has been protesting against Erdogan government for awhile. And the protest are just increasing as Erdogan kills and in prisons anyone that unmaskes his dirty dangerous ISIS games. Recently, 2 journalists were in –prison for revealing that Turkey was supplying arms to the Syrian Rebels. ( Turkey jails journalists for 'revealing state secrets') By which provoked a large protest from the citizens -- Thousands Protest Arrest of 2 Turkish Journalists on Spying Charges

Let us watch what the near future holds for Turkey’s puppet ruler, his family, and his government.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/06/15 06:37 AM

My Comment: Europe are hot for jumping into war with Syria under the pretext they are fighting ISIS. I was under the impression that they were leaving the US & NATO Oligath's plan of destroying the Middle East....but maybe not so. Maybe they are forced to comply.... that's what this authors is saying.

I agree with the analyse of the author in this article. The destruction of Syria has always been in the plan even before they destroyed Iraq according to General Wesley Clark (see video link provided in this article). My hunch is the author is also right about France and Britain being forced. That was my impression with the latest Paris terrorist attack and Holland reaction to it.

However, I don't think his prediction will come. But who knows maybe it will for a brief time for the sake to wake up the population. I don't know how it will all play out. One thing for sure, we do expect the latter rain and perhaps it will come with some intense event that will shake the people up. Also timewise, we may have until the end of 2017 before Babylon is fully destroyed. I was hoping that it was at the beginning of 2017 and not the end. We shall see what the Lord has in mind. For sure, things are getting quite intense as time progresses. Let's keep watch keeping in mind the Lord's intention to save many in His perfect plan that is unfolding in front of us.

Why the US, France and Britain are destroying Syria

Dec 5th, 2015
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/324853-us-france-britain-syria/

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Since Russia stepped up to the plate, suddenly western countries can’t wait to bomb ISIS. Are they now there to get the job done? Or are they there to stop Russia increasing its influence, and to make sure it doesn’t succeed where they failed?

The world is falling over itself to bomb Syria.

The following statement from Reuters summarizes the situation: “Most of the world's powers are now flying combat missions over Iraq and Syria against Islamic State. But any consensus on how to proceed has been thwarted by opposing policies over the 4-year-old civil war in Syria, which has killed 250,000 people, driven 11 million from their homes, left swathes of territory in the hands of jihadist fighters and defied all diplomatic efforts at a solution.”

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© Loubna Mrie -- Will the real terrorists in Syria please stand up?

While it may seem to the outside observer that this catalogue of mayhem is the result of incompetence, to me – on the contrary – it is evidence of things going to plan.

I have never, thus far, seen a war the ruling elite clearly wanted to happen not happen.

Here, as in all other cases, there has been a bit of hand-wringing, some crying, some protests, some moving speeches. But like the morality plays of medieval times, after enjoying the sermon dressed as entertainment, life has inevitably carried on as normal with the barons raping and pillaging and everyone else having to put up with that reality.

Destruction of Syria is the plan

This time the plan – at least judging from the outcomes – is to destroy Syria.

Syria has been anathema to the self-appointed arbiters of righteousness: the ‘international community’, that coterie of hypocrites which arrogates to itself the monopoly on meting out death to those who won’t get with the program.

This group dislikes Syria which has had an uncompromising stance towards Israel and an independent financial system, and is using the chance to destroy it to flood Europe with refugees, thus further debasing the makeup of its constituent nations, and simultaneously justifying a lockdown in those countries.


Enter Putin

Everything was going swimmingly until Putin stepped in.

While many in the West who have grown jaundiced at the obvious usurpation of our governments by outside interests ascribe almost saint-like motivations to Putin, I do not. He is a superb strategist. Exactly what he is strategizing for is not clear yet.

What is clear is that his move into Syria threw a spanner in the works of a status quo the US was quite happy with: growing terrorism and mayhem in Syria and spreading nicely to Europe.

Assad himself said a few days ago to the BBC (courtesy of Czech Television) that ISIS was growing smaller after Russian bombing intervention whereas moves by other countries served only to strengthen ISIS and increase their recruitment.

He added: "The facts are telling."

So what do the facts tell?

They tell us that Russia is the only country involved to date which has the removal of ISIS as an actual goal.

In addition, ISIS was most eloquently outed by author and journalist Gearóid Ó Colmáin on Russia Today as a US creation.

View Youtube : Political author Gearoid O Colmain discusses the Paris attacks with RT International https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7GAbVhjTSw

Russia is also the only country with a legitimate mandate under international law.



In this scenario, the reason for further western efforts in the region is looking increasingly like an attempt to prevent Russia from routing its assets or achieving the informational coup that would follow.

France and Britain milking the crises

The propaganda war is hotting up, with western press issuing unsubstantiated and emotional surmise as news.

Meanwhile, the French and the British are now, of course, bombing Syria.

At home, the French government not only voted to bomb but enacted ‘emergency’ powers at the same time. And Holland wants to change the constitution to extend these powers.

The Telegraph states: “The draft “Protection of the Nation” bill […] would extend the right to strip French citizenship from dual nationals convicted of terrorism offences by also including people born in France.

It would also prolong certain powers after a state of emergency was lifted.

No time limit will be inscribed in the constitution under the new proposals. As is currently the case, parliament will decide how long a given state of emergency should last.”

This all looks so like a dictator’s wet dream, it takes an effort of will to believe it has not been planned this way.

And a man no less respected than Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, formerly Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, has raised legitimate questions about the official line on the Paris attacks.

He says: “European peoples want to be French, German, Dutch, Italian, Hungarian, Czech, British. They do not want their countries to be a diverse Tower of Babel created by millions of refugees from Washington’s wars.

To remain a nationality unto themselves is what Pegida, Farage, and Le Pen offer the voters.

Realizing its vulnerability, it is entirely possible that the French Establishment made a decision to protect its hold on power with a false flag attack that would allow the Establishment to close France’s borders and, thereby, deprive Marine Le Pen of her main political issue.”

The same event, of course, justifies France’s bombing of Syria.

The British government for its part – despite some theatrical hand-wringing – has got on the bandwagon and opted to join in whatever further criminality the US has planned in Syria.

As though to justify the decision, the Telegraph breathlessly informs us that ISIS (or ISIL as it calls it) is planning to attack the UK “next”.

It says: “There are unconfirmed reports that Isil has decided that the next target of an attack will be Britain.

European security agencies, citing specific intelligence that had been obtained, stated that British Isil operatives in Syria and Iraq were being tasked to return home to launch an attack, CNN reported.”

This is the level of the propaganda now: CNN reports security agencies who say that a terrorist group whose name changes every five minutes might be sending members to Britain to do harm.

But this is unconfirmed.

The real reason for this war
I’m going to simplify things: the Plan for a New American Century – a document which was created by neoconservative warmongers in or close to power under George Bush Jr. – listed countries which it wanted the US to attack, namely: North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Libya and Syria.

The journal-neo.org site states: “[all were] pinpointed as enemies of the U.S. well before the illegal war in Iraq in 2003, as well as the illegal 2011 war in Libya and the ongoing proxy war in Syria.”

Retired US General Wesley Clarke went on record in 2007 stating that the fix was in: the U.S. had unilaterally decided to destroy Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.

View Gen Wesy Clark testimony on Youtube : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LTdx1nPu3k


This is not some wild-eyed conspiracy theorist. Clarke was a four-star general, and the man who commanded Operation Allied Force in the Kosovo War during his term as the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe of NATO from 1997 to 2000.


The pretense of choice

Any objective assessment of who benefits from attacks upon the countries Clarke mentioned would not include any European country – or even the U.S. for that matter.

But the subtext is clear: if Europeans don’t want to take part, terrorist attacks will be allowed or contrived until they acquiesce.

In short: the ruling elite wants this war. Our pretend governments voted it through on the nod. And we the people will have to deal with the fallout and put up with random terrorist acts if we wake up and speak out about how this charade is rigged.

At the same time, the people of Syria are subject to bombing raids by the US, France and the UK – none of which have any invitation from the legitimate government of that country – actions which, properly speaking, are acts of war against the country the perpetrators claim to want to help.

My prediction: the clean-up operation Russia initiated and Assad approves of will be made to fail; terrorism will increase and spread into Europe; and mass immigration from Syria and that area to Europe will continue; and acts of terrorism on European soil will magically justify endless war, internal lock-down, wholesale surveillance, detention without trial, and troops on the street.

And this – in the absence of hard evidence based in action to the contrary – I can only see as the actual plan.

Do you remember voting for that?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/06/15 04:13 PM

My comment : It’s been since 2008 crash that we’ve been under “quantitive Easing” (QE = no interest) and the Fed been pumping trillions into the economy pretending it would fix the problem knowing its only kicking the can further bearing a greater repercussion. Economist has long viewed that whenever the Fed would raise the interest rate – that would crash the economy.


Will the Fed raise interest rates December 15/16?

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...-december-1516/

Dec 05, 2015

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Fed Chairman, Janet Yellen, has been making statements in the past week in preparation of an interest rate hike when the Fed meets on December 15 and 16.

Months ago Lindsey Williams was informed by his “elite” friend that the big boys intended to crash the economy by the end of 2015 after Obamacare was fully implemented.

The so-called “elite” are actually the Babylonian oligarchs who have ruled the West for the past century or more. Since we are now coming to the end of our Babylonian era—which they realize—their intention is to “go for broke” and crash the economy in hopes of setting up a greater dictatorship and retain their power. In their delusions of grandeur, they hope to overcome the God Factor, but the patterns of prophecy were established thousands of years ago in the collapse of the original city of Babylon. We are now in the time of a second collapse, based on the patterns of the first collapse.

This is bad news for Babylon, but good news for the captives in Babylon. We may also take comfort in the fact that Babylon fell intact. There was no great destruction, nor were a lot of people killed by the Persian army. In fact, history shows that Darius and Cyrus, the “kings from the east,” retained most of the government officials in order to maintain a smooth transition. The main difference was that Daniel, the prophet, was put in charge of those government officials.

In my view, we are at the end of the first of three years in which we will see the fall of Mystery Babylon. It began in November of 2014 and should come to a full end by the end of 2017, or possibly by the summer of 2018. (This is 70 years after the Israeli state was established.)

On December 4, 2015 Bill Holter wrote an article that was reprinted by Jim Sinclair. In it he says,

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“Can you imagine the Fed talking about raising rates while ENTERING a recession? This is exactly what is happening! The only other time since 1913 where the Fed actually tightened during a business recession was 1937. The tightening collapsed the markets and the economy turned down further…Please understand this, a solvency problem was treated with massive doses of liquidity. Now, seven years later the solvency problem is far worse and the Fed wants to pull liquidity?

“I have to say in my opinion, if the Fed raises rates here they are purposely pulling the plug on the system.”


http://www.jsmineset.com/2015/12/04/policy-error-or-on-purpose/

Janet Yellen is certainly aware that the official government statistics are manipulated and do not truly reflect the reality of American economy. The fundamental problems of an overload of debt and insolvency have not been resolved since
the crash of 2008. If anything, the debt has multiplied.

The Fed has pumped trillions of dollars into the system since then with QE to infinity, but this was mainly to help the big banks maintain the illusion of solvency, not to help the average American. Unemployment figures seem to be low, now below 6%, but the labor participation rate is the lowest in nearly 50 years. In other words, a lot of people became homeless in the past seven years, and when they stopped looking for work, they were taken off the list of the unemployed. As their names were dropped, the unemployment figures began to look good again. But the figures are not the unemployment rate, but rather the number of people still getting unemployment checks.

There is a big difference.

Yet Janet Yellen still says the economy is strong enough for a rate hike. Rate hikes pull money out of the economy. Low interest rates historically have created more money, which is inflationary. Higher interest rates reduce the money supply, which is deflationary. The Fed keeps telling us that in spite of infusing trillions of dollars into the economy, inflation is still too low. Their goal is to raise it to 2%. Well, since QE has failed to produce inflation, it appears that they have abandoned that approach and are now ready to do the opposite.

The question is this: Will raising interest rates raise inflation to meet their 2% goal? This would have been laughable just ten years ago.

At the same time, the European Central Bank (ECB) is extending its QE program to pump more cash into the European economy. Given that the economies of the nations have been tied together, how will this affect the US economy?

First, it means that the euro will go down in value. Second, when the Fed raises interest rates, the US dollar will go up in value. Investors know this, and so they will be dumping euros and buying dollars. These investors know that if they buy dollars that are going up in value, while at the same time seeing a greater interest-rate yield on their investment, they will make money both ways.

The problem is that the US trade deficit will also increase, because a strong dollar will make it easier for Americans to buy goods from abroad, but other countries will find it more expensive to buy American goods and services. This is why so many central banks try to reduce the value of their currencies. It is to promote exports.

Higher interest rates in America will also make a certain number of debtors go broke. More than half of US auto sales are written as sub-prime mortgages. Such mortgages are meant to allow people who cannot afford new autos to buy them anyway. An increase in interest rates will force a certain percentage of them into insolvency.

The same could be said about home mortgages, which are adjusted every year according to the Fed’s interest rate.
So Bill Holter believes that if the Fed raises interest rates, it will push the US economy back into recession. This is what happened in 1937 when the Fed raised interest rates after the Great Depression. The economy collapsed a second time and did not come out of it until the spending for World War II brought money back into the economy.

Of course, it is possible that Janet Yellen knows something that she is not saying publicly. She may know of a soon-coming injection of liquidity into the system that might come from another source. She may be anticipating a Global Currency Reset, with all of its ramifications, including a return to the gold standard. Time will tell us which scenario is coming.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/06/15 07:19 PM

My Comment : On November 30th, the IMF included the Yuan(aka Renminbi) as one of the elites World currencies along side with USD, the Euro, the British pound and Japanese yen. This was a great victory for China to finally be included with the “big boys”; thus this will change the economic world as we have known it the past 100 years.

China Creates a World Bank of Its Own, and the U.S. Balks
In setting up the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, China enlisted American allies, including Britain, even as Washington expressed skepticism.
By JANE PERLEZ DEC. 4, 2015

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/busine...aloof.html?_r=1

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BEIJING — As top leaders met at a lush Bali resort in October 2013, President Xi Jinping of China described his vision for a new multinational, multibillion-dollar bank to finance roads, rails and power grids across Asia. Under Chinese stewardship, the bank would tackle the slow development in poor countries that was holding the region back from becoming the wealth center of the world.

Afterward, the United States secretary of state, John Kerry, caught up with Mr. Xi in the corridor. “That’s a great idea,” Mr. Kerry said of the bank, according to Chinese and American aides briefed on the encounter.

The enthusiasm didn’t last long, as the Obama administration began a rear-guard battle to minimize the bank’s influence.

The United States worries that China will use the bank to set the global economic agenda on its own terms, forgoing the environmental protections, human rights, anticorruption measures and other governance standards long promoted by its Western counterparts. American officials point to China’s existing record of loans to unstable governments, construction deals for unnecessary infrastructure, and villagers abruptly uprooted with little compensation.

But the administration suffered a humiliating diplomatic defeat last spring when most of its closest allies signed up for the bank, including Britain, Germany, Australia and South Korea. Altogether 57 countries have joined, leaving the United States and Japan on the outside.

The calculation for joining is simple. China, with its vast wealth and resources, now rivals the United States at the global economic table. That was confirmed this week when the International Monetary Fund blessed the Chinese renminbi as one of the world’s elite currencies, alongside the dollar, euro, pound and yen.

Countries are finding they must increasingly operate in China’s orbit. And backing the new bank would bring financial advantages, as well as curry favor with Beijing. While many countries had similar doubts as the United States, they figured they could just shape the organization from the inside.

The new bank “is an instrument for China to lend legitimacy to its international forays and to extend its sphere of economic and political influence even while changing the rules of the game,” said Eswar Prasad, former head of the China division at the International Monetary Fund and a professor at Cornell University. “And it gives the existing institutions a kick in the pants.”

The Chinese-led institution, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, is now in the process of picking its first projects. The choices, expected to be announced in coming months, will provide insight into how China plans to wield its power.

Either China is serious about taking a leadership role in the global economy and prioritizing projects that broadly benefit Asia, or it plans to use the bank as a conduit to further its own ambitions.

So far, China appears to be navigating the two extremes. It is assuaging critics by compromising on issues like board makeup, project oversight and procurement. But China is hardly yielding control, raising concerns about where the bank will land on issues like climate change and labor rights. The bank, for example, is still weighing whether to approve coal-fired power plants.

China is taking direct aim at the current development regime, the Bretton Woods system established under the leadership of the United States after World War II to help stabilize currencies and promote growth.

Beijing officials say they want to take a faster approach than their counterparts at theWorld Bank, the International Monetary Fund and the Asian Development Bank. The new bank, China promises, will not be bogged down in oversight.

The Chinese-led bank will also focus solely on infrastructure. To China, the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank failed to deliver on big projects meant to transform backward parts of Asia, resulting in an estimated $8 trillion of needed investment in rails, ports and power plants.

As a complement to the new bank, China is rolling out the “One Belt, One Road” program for the construction of a network of roads, rails and pipelines along the old Silk Road route through Central Asia to Europe. A maritime equivalent calls ports from Southeast Asia to East Africa to the Mediterranean.

“The U.S. risks forfeiting its international relevance while stuck in its domestic political quagmire,” Jin Liqun, the president-designate of China’s bank, wrote in a chapter for a recently released book, “Bretton Woods: The Next 70 Years.” He added, in reference to the United States, “History has never set any precedent that an empire is capable of governing the world forever.”

At the signing of the agreement for the bank in June, Mr. Jin and Mr. Xi posed for a photo alongside officials from the other 56 founding member nations in the Great Hall of the People.

An unexpectedly large group, it included countries as diverse as Iran and Israel, Russia and Poland, and an array of American friends. The total capital commitment, $100 billion, was double the amount originally envisioned.

Having underestimated the interest, the Obama administration is now starting to soften its stance. Three months after the signing, Mr. Xi met with President Obama at the White House, in the Chinese leader’s first state visit. At the summit meeting, Mr. Obama urged the existing banks to cooperate with the new institution. The United States, though, would still not join.

Birth of the Bank

In late 2007, an influential Chinese official visited remote villages along the Mekong River in Laos.

The official, Zheng Xinli, a senior figure in the policy research office of the Communist Party’s Central Committee, noticed communities pockmarked with stilted huts and fertile ground that failed to produce. Any crops were difficult to sell, since farmers were far from markets and transportation was scarce.

Mr. Zheng saw an opportunity for China, which has faced similar infrastructure issues. “Economically, it was complementary to China,” said Mr. Zheng, who is referred to as the bank’s godfather.

He initially proposed the bank plan to aides of Hu Jintao, the president then. But they were not interested and the idea languished. Mr. Zheng left the party committee for an economic think tank.

When Mr. Xi was named president in 2013, Mr. Zheng and his new colleagues saw a chance to revive the plan. The think tank, the China Center for International Economic Exchanges, thought the bank played to Mr. Xi’s nationalistic strategy.

A newly assertive Beijing felt that it had been unfairly treated for years by the United States. President Obama did not invite China to join the American-driven Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact, insisting that Beijing should not be allowed to write the rules for 21st-century commerce.

During the 2008 financial crisis, China’s economy had continued to perform well, serving as a stabilizing force for the world when the United States was on the verge of a collapse. Yet Congress blocked an I.M.F. proposal, backed by the Obama administration, to make China the third-most-powerful country at the fund after the United States and Japan.

“The U.S. Congress was delaying its approval of the I.M.F. reform, and we had a different view,” said Xu Hongcai, head of the economic studies department at the China center. “The U.S. agreed to the conditions when the economy was in the downturn, but it backed down on its words when things got better.”

To corral vastly disparate countries, China knew it needed to look beyond its usual slate of Communist officials, an often-insular group.

They turned to Mr. Jin, an economist fluent in English who had worked at the World Bank in the 1980s and served as China’s first vice president at the Asian Development Bank. A former chairman at China’s sovereign wealth fund, Mr. Jin had a passion for Shakespeare and the Australian novelist Patrick White.

Courting China’s Asian friends was easy, with smaller countries like Singapore readily signing up. The major developed countries were a little more reluctant.

In May 2014, the grandees of British and European capitalism gathered in London, where Mr. Jin spoke to representatives of several hundred wealth funds. “We all thought it was pie in the sky,” said David Marsh, managing director of the Official Monetary and Financial Institutions Forum, an advocacy group for public-private finance.

Mr. Jin also tried to woo the Japanese, calculating that the Europeans would be impressed if the country, a Group of 7 member, joined. But the Japanese prime minister, Shinzo Abe, had his own plans to promote development.

Undeterred, Mr. Jin decided to tackle Washington instead.

A Skeptical Washington

By the time Mr. Jin arrived in Washington in September 2014, the administration was already wary of the bank.

The deputy national security adviser for international economics, Caroline Atkinson, who headed a series of high-level meetings on the bank, was known as a strong defender of the existing system. A graduate of Oxford and a former journalist, Ms. Atkinson had worked at the I.M.F., the Bank of England and the United States Treasury.

Although Washington recognized the bank would go ahead, Ms. Atkinson and others wanted to influence the membership, according to a participant in the meetings. Important allies — Australia and South Korea, in particular — were discouraged from signing up, and G-7 countries were advised that the United States wanted a united front.

Ms. Atkinson declined to be interviewed. A press representative for the National Security Council referred to earlier comments by President Obama about the need for more infrastructure in Asia, albeit with high standards.

Behind the public argument lay deep suspicions about China’s real goal. China’s economic clout in Asia was strengthening yearly, and there were fears that Beijing would use the bank as another tool to project its influence.

The China Development Bank and the Export-Import Bank of China already financed big-ticket projects in Asia and Africa. By Chinese estimates, their combined overseas assets stood at $500 billion, more than the combined capital of the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank.

Also, the Treasury secretary, Jacob J. Lew, the figure who would normally drive this agenda, knew little about the country. Mr. Lew had not visited China until he became secretary in 2013. His predecessors Timothy F. Geithner and Henry M. Paulson Jr. were steeped in China before joining the Treasury Department.

Mr. Lew was not really involved in the administration’s deliberations about the bank. In a sign the bank was not a priority for him, a cabinet meeting was never called on whether the United States should consider joining, said officials with knowledge of the discussions.

During his visit to Washington, Mr. Jin tried to soften the Americans’ objections. He suggested that the administration wait to see how the bank defined its standards before passing judgment.

“He was encouraging us to be more positive,” the official involved in the administration’s deliberations said. “He was saying, ‘You can be an ombudsman on transparency,’” meaning that the United States could measure the bank on its standards and make its findings public.

But the National Security Council hung tough. “I am not going to buy the cake you have cooked,” Evan S. Medeiros, the council’s senior adviser on China, said, according to a person with knowledge of the conversation.

To which Mr. Jin replied: “You are always welcome into the kitchen to help with the baking.”

Finding an Ally

With a March 31 deadline for membership fast approaching, Mr. Jin started courting other G-7 countries in earnest. He concentrated on Britain, a country he knew and liked, and where his daughter was an assistant professor of economics at the London School of Economics.

His timing was serendipitous.

China had put Britain in a diplomatic deep freeze after Prime Minister David Cameron met with the Dalai Lama in 2012. By early 2015, Britain was trying to claw its way out of the doghouse by adopting a mercantilist approach to China.

As a practical matter, George Osborne, the chancellor of the Exchequer, wanted London to be a prime center for trading in the renminbi. He also thought that Chinese investment was paramount for the nation’s health.

“There are some in the West who see China growing and they are nervous,” Mr. Osborne said in a speech at Peking University in 2013. “I totally and utterly reject that pessimistic view.”

The British government kept the negotiations quiet. After deciding to join the bank in early March, the British gave Washington 24 hours’ notice, a senior administration official said.

To Washington, it was a major affront. The British were supposed to be America’s most steadfast ally, but now they had chosen to side with China. Days later, other European allies rushed in. Australia and South Korea eventually followed.

A deeper relationship with China is already paying dividends. During a four-day state visit by Mr. Xi to Britain in October, the two countries signed commercial agreements worth 40 billion pounds, or about $60 billion, including one for a major stake in the British nuclear industry. Mr. Osborne said Mr. Xi’s visit had ushered in a “golden era” between the two countries.

For China, British membership in the bank was a defining moment. Back in Beijing, Mr. Jin reached for his copy of Shakespeare’s drama “Cymbeline.”

The play takes place in Roman-occupied Britain and part of the action revolves around the British refusal to pay tribute. Mr. Jin read two lines by the character Cloten, who tells the Roman ambassador: “Britain’s a world by itself. We will nothing pay for wearing our own noses.”

Mr. Jin realized that just as ancient Britain had refused to pay Rome in an earlier age, contemporary Britain had defied the United States and joined the Chinese bank.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/11/15 07:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
The Keshe Foundation
by Stephen Jones

"...
Today the Keshe Foundation is set to offer FREE ENERGY to the world.

...
He says that this free energy device will cause chaos and collapse of all industries that rely upon the sale of conventional energy—whether oil, gas, electricity, coal, or nuclear energy—because they will no longer be needed. Pollution problems will end quickly.
So now that it's been some days since this great revelation....

How's that working out?

What has happened? If you say, you haven't kept up with it, well, why not. Wasn't that something important you presented? Or not.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/12/15 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
The Keshe Foundation
by Stephen Jones

"...
Today the Keshe Foundation is set to offer FREE ENERGY to the world.

...
He says that this free energy device will cause chaos and collapse of all industries that rely upon the sale of conventional energy—whether oil, gas, electricity, coal, or nuclear energy—because they will no longer be needed. Pollution problems will end quickly.
So now that it's been some days since this great revelation....

How's that working out?

What has happened? If you say, you haven't kept up with it, well, why not. Wasn't that something important you presented? Or not.


I did go o read a few technical forums that is critizing him. However, Stephen(or I) or most people has no way or the level of physic comprehension to test or evaluate if Keshe discovery works. It requires the scientists in that particular field to test it, criticize it, and evaluate the potential. Keshe has done his part in providing around 10 years of education, and went to extra ordinary level to provide some basic models to many countries and to provide all details of how to build the basic models.

I probably shouldn’t of post that post but since I had previously posted about Keshe a few years ago, I felt that a follow up was due. Despite if I should or should not of posted, the fact is that I did and I need to take it as it was in the Lord’s plan. Probably, because of your help, to put me in a situation that I now need to expand a little more about why the “Keshe event” pulled Stephen’s attention (and the excitement) so to say what he said relating to Keshe’s world wide statement and huge endeavor to appeal to all countries to consider this technology in exchange to peace. The “Keshe event” landed precisely on a very important watch date (Oct 16). Plus Keshe linking it to a peace call -- this theme was directly associated to what the Lord had made happened last year on that exact same date.

“Watch dates” are dates that the Lord has sets. All feasts dates are watch dates as the Lord makes events happens that give His people information of what He is doing or working on that year to bring certain biblical prophecies into fulfillment and to establish His kingdom – all in very small strides yet things progress from year to year. The Lord is not in a hurry like we are and always do things according to His laws, in small strides, and on His appointed time.

Besides Feasts dates as “watch dates”, there are many other time cycles that He has set in scriptures that these become also “watch dates”. We, His people, are not aware what He’s doing until He brings these as revelation to some -- not always the same people as He wants to exercise the whole body in their ability to hear His voice and to teach us to depend on one another so to learn to work as a body to come to know what He’s doing. Events, intercessions, particular actions(or decrees), or verdict are ALWAYS initiated and set by Him and confirmed by multiple witnesses (at least 2 or more) at appointed dates that is always based on one of His particular time cycle and His laws (Torah).

To briefly explain further what’s our “Father’s business”, basically the Lord calls unto his Amen people to witness what cases He is currently working in the heavenly court. This is a concept that is difficult to comprehend for us as we, SDAs or any other denominations, have no or hardly any notion of this for we as a corporate group have not learn to hear the Lord’s voice; thus by not hearing we are not aware of what has been taking place in that dimension. However, the Lord has always had a few individuals (sheep) in His folds (various denominations) that can hear His voice and were involved in these heavenly court proceedings. We only have a few glimpse of these aka “spiritual warfare” happening with Daniel and others in the OT.

In brief, what I have understood and have witnessed in the past 5 years by reading Stephen’s blog and some of his log concerning what happened in past spiritual warfare -- is before the Lord changes something on earth, the case is first handle in His court in heaven. Meaning the battles of all spiritual warfare happens in the heavenly courts. And the Lord needs an Amen people to be involve in these court cases because He proceeds to “call heaven and earth to witness” (Deut 4:26). Once the case is presented -- a decree is pronounced by the Lord, or intercession done on behalf of some nations or group of people, or whatever court proceedings – these are witnessed by His people that Amen it. The effect of a particular court case is only seen or manifested on earth after a certain time lapse (always based on a certain time cycle He has establish in scriptures). Many time we see some level of manifestation on earth a year later, but that is not the norm. It could be sooner or later. Then the manifestation is not always an abrupt phenomena, but it could be like a rain that occurs gradually and increases in momentum until “the cloud in the sky are emptied” (= until heaven court’s case execution is completed). His people that are learning to hear His voice – often doesn’t have the whole picture of what the Lord is doing, or when it will manifest on earth or how it will manifest. They only have bits and pieces and often the whole picture and the whole extend of the case are only fully understood once it is all fulfilled on earth. And I have witnesses many events taking place on appointed times bases on court cases that were recorded as it has happened. Stephen has recorded the spiritual warfare that took place from 1981 to 2008 in "Wars of the Lord". You can use his search engine to search any particular “Wars” (court cases) in His blog to see their references later in time.

What I understand the reasons why the Lord proceeds in such fashion and getting us involve in all of this is so we can learn what laws is presented in court, how he applies the laws, what the time cycles the case is framed upon means as all numbers have a meaning, and how court proceedings runs in His court – so to train and prepare His Overcomers to mediate for the people in a lawful manner so to learn how to rule with Him and in His ways before the Millennium comes. The Lord is not going to have a body of Priests that are ignorant of His laws and His ways that are not trained in His Court affairs to rule during the coming Messianic Age. Daniel 2 and Daniel 7 and the book of revelation says, that the transfer of the Kingdom to His Saints of the Most High after the destruction of Mystery Babylon who Jesus is the head of together will form the Melchizedek order – this kingdom will last forever and ever and will never be destroyed. This Kingdom will be successful, righteous, an incorruptible – thus will not fail like all the previous Churches in history has experienced.

Here’s a few points to consider why possibly why we haven’t heard or seen the Keshe discovery (if legit) advancing as fast as we would like to see it:
#1. The scientific community needs to bypass their “nayish” attitude to even consider it before they can proceed in testing them.
#2. What Keshe is presenting (if it works) is a total new energy sourcing direction that requires the whole infrastructure to be rebuild and be redesign. This is no small endeavor and it requires the participation of many. So that's why I think he invested mainly his time to sell the idea broadly first so that it is adopted by a reasonable sized body from the scientific community before countries on a whole invest any resources, time, and money on this.
#3. Right now we know that Mystery Babylon still owns mainsteam media, still manage the puppet government of Western countries, still creating havoc in any countries that oppose them, has attach their Mark (USD -- the petrodollar) to the oil industry – Thus we know they have absolutely no interest in promoting this new technology that in itself will destroy them. They will resist and try to bring it down with all their might.
#4. In case you haven't noticed, right now we are in a WORLD WAR in the middle East with the US, Turkey, Saudi, Israel, France, Britain, Germany, against Russia, China, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Libya, and etc...
#5. Only barely 2 months has lapse since Oct 16. That’s not a lot of time kland. We need to be more patient than that. Put your stones aside for a little while longer if you can.

If Keshe discovery is legit and the Lord really gave him this revelation to produce a type of "free" (or a much simpler and more efficient) and cleaner form of energy source; then I have no doubt in my mind that this will be the future and the oil industry and even the conventional electrical models will be a thing of the pass. When? I have no idea when we’ll hear or see the implementation of these.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/15/15 07:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
I did go o read a few technical forums that is critizing him. However, Stephen(or I) or most people has no way or the level of physic comprehension to test or evaluate if Keshe discovery works. It requires the scientists in that particular field to test it, criticize it, and evaluate the potential. Keshe has done his part in providing around 10 years of education, and went to extra ordinary level to provide some basic models to many countries and to provide all details of how to build the basic models.

I probably shouldn’t of post that post but since I had previously posted about Keshe a few years ago, I felt that a follow up was due. Despite if I should or should not of posted, the fact is that I did and I need to take it as it was in the Lord’s plan. Probably, because of your help, to put me in a situation that I now need to expand a little more about why the “Keshe event” pulled Stephen’s attention (and the excitement) so to say what he said relating to Keshe’s world wide statement and huge endeavor to appeal to all countries to consider this technology in exchange to peace. The “Keshe event” landed precisely on a very important watch date (Oct 16). Plus Keshe linking it to a peace call -- this theme was directly associated to what the Lord had made happened last year on that exact same date.
...
...(trailing off on non relevant distracting things to the question)
Why does someone need to test something or evaluate or comprehend the physics if it works and produces "free" energy?

Or is what you are really saying is that someone imagined a suggestion of a concept which they hoped would work, and then someone else needs to actually make this fantasy work?

Elle, something that doesn't work, no matter what precise date it was imagined, still doesn't work. Nor implies anything to any imagined importance of dates.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/16/15 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Why does someone need to test something or evaluate or comprehend the physics if it works and produces "free" energy?

Because it is new technology -- something unfamiliar -- something not used -- something that goes against statu quo...

Any new technology or new theory has to be tested outside the house that created it; so to be proven and be accepted by other scientist so that it can come to be implemented by many. That is just plain well-known scientific procedures.

Originally Posted By: kland
Or is what you are really saying is that someone imagined a suggestion of a concept which they hoped would work, and then someone else needs to actually make this fantasy work?

Well here is a youtube video of 3 electricians from Australia that took Keshe blue print that was pubished Oct 16 2015 to build a unit from scratch on their own. They succeeded and the simple devise prduces 30% more watts that was fed thru the devise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlUQ9YOmTFo


Originally Posted By: kland
Elle, something that doesn't work, no matter what precise date it was imagined, still doesn't work. Nor implies anything to any imagined importance of dates.


How do you know if it doesn't work? Have you the necessary backgrown to evaluate this properly? If so have you tested it yourself? Or are you just one of the typical Nay sayers? There's always been plenty of those around like in those days when negative numbers was an unthinkable possibility. Today negative numbers is taught worldwide.

These 3 Australian electricians, instead of going into naysaying speculation, they were brave enough to explore the possibility by investing time and put their effort in testing it. What it appears in that video is that it works!

Am I in position to say that it does work only based on that video? No. I'm not. I personally would like to see many more who have some background in this industry and are capable of testing it. They will do all the people of the earth a service to test it so it would be recognize if it has this great potential that Keshe claims so we can proceed to apply it in a greather realm and produce clean energy instead of relying on Petroleum that is not efficient and only destroyes this planet in multiple ways.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/16/15 04:03 PM

My comment: Keshe, who is from Iran, his discovery (if it is proven as an efficient clean source of energy) will attack directly the oil industry that Mystery Babylon's petrodollar hinches on.

Now the article below shows that because Iran, after years of being sanctions and now recently back into trading oil, cannot estimate the oil it can bring into the market. This caused the latest lower oil prices with OPEC and their unability to proceed.

This could be the beginning of the end of OPEC. Time will tell what the Lord has in mind. But to me, this looks like a double witness that the Lord has established on earth teling us He is starting to dismantled Mystery Babylon's oil insdustry by using Persia-Iran on two front : 1) by the country inadvertendly creating problem with OPEC 2)by an individual's challenging the usage of oil with his new discovery.

OPEC killed by Iran-Persia

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2015/12-2015/opec-killed-by-iran-persia/

by Stephen Jones

Dec 07, 2015

Quote:
The recent OPEC meeting (December 4) ended without any agreement on cutting back on oil production. That means prices will continue to decline or stay at the current low prices around $40/barrel.

Essentially, we could be seeing the break-up of OPEC. Its purpose was to regulate production by assigning quotas to each member nation. It appears that this has now ended, and the oil-producers are now able to pump as much oil as they choose. OPEC is now dead insofar as its control of prices is concerned.

It appears that OPEC was destroyed by Iran. You can thank them later.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-opec-meeting-idUSKBN0TM30B20151205#Ixydh4cgt0pRBhh6.97

Quote:
“OPEC members failed to agree an oil production ceiling on Friday at a meeting that ended in acrimony, after Iran said it would not consider any production curbs until it restores output scaled back for years under Western sanctions.

“Friday's developments set up the fractious cartel for more price wars in an already heavily oversupplied market….

“OPEC's secretary general Abdullah al-Badri said OPEC could not agree on any figures because it could not predict how much oil Iran would add to the market next year, as sanctions are withdrawn under a deal reached six months ago with world powers over its nuclear program.

“Most ministers left the meeting without making comments.

“Badri tried to lessen the embarrassment by saying OPEC was as strong as ever, only to hear an outburst of laughter from reporters and analysts in the conference room.”

Low oil prices is good for consumers who will continue to pay less at the pump. It is also bad for big oil companies, who make money on percentages of the price of oil. Now they are selling about the same quantity of a commodity that has less value, while their cost of production remains the same. The nations who lease the oil fields will also make less money, because they have contracts on oil production.

Watch for some nations like Saudi Arabia to go through their foreign reserves at a fast pace. They will have to pull money out of the markets, which could cause depressions around the world. Nations will have to go further into debt, and some could well go into default. Mexico is particularly at risk right now.

Shale oil companies are losing money with every barrel of oil that they pump. The high cost of drilling and production will make them the first to call it quits. North Dakota should prepare for less revenue, at least in the near future.

Since Iran is old Persia, it seems fitting that Iran’s actions would put the final nail into the coffin of OPEC. They have been storing oil in big tankers for many years, waiting for the sanctions to be lifted. They will not be denied access to the markets, after being relatively unproductive for so long. And since they hate the Saudis, they are not about to cooperate with them by reducing oil production. So now they compete to see who can produce the most oil in order to make any money at all.

Keep in mind, too, that the board members of Big Oil are the same as the board members of Big Banks. What problems the big oil companies will also affect those banks. These are the main oligarchs of Babylon. As in the days of old, Persia is doing its part to overthrow Babylon.

Oil has been priced in US petro-dollars since the early 1970’s. Conversely, this also means that the price of petro-dollars is valued in oil. Their fate is tied together until the dollar breaks away to be restored to the gold standard. Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard in 1971, and tied it to oil to prop up the dollar’s value. The US dollar has been on an oil standard for the past 40 years. That is sure to end soon.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/16/15 11:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Why does someone need to test something or evaluate or comprehend the physics if it works and produces "free" energy?

Because it is new technology -- something unfamiliar -- something not used -- something that goes against statu quo...

Any new technology or new theory has to be tested outside the house that created it; so to be proven and be accepted by other scientist so that it can come to be implemented by many. That is just plain well-known scientific procedures.
Elle, you have missed my point. If free energy is going to change the world, and there is a black box which produces more energy coming out than going in, why does anyone need to understand any physics behind it for it to be used and change the world.

Unless, it doesn't work.

Elle, I'm not into speculation. I'm into results.

Are there any?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/16/15 11:34 PM

My comment : Many knows by now that the US, Canada, Australia, Japan, Ireland, France, Britain, Germany, and many other countries have lost their sovereignty 100 years ago to Mystery Babylon by the cunning devices of Maritime Laws (aka Admiralty Laws) which makes countries constitutional laws and common laws void. I had posted here (don’t remember what discussion) about this and how Babylon destroyed the 13th amendment that would of prevented Foreign entities to enslave America and other countries. In the next post I will provide one of Judge Anna Von Reitz explaining this important part of history further.

Just past October 15, 2015, 4 Superior court Judges united to do something about it. Here’s a link of the 44 pages Court case on the behalf of the people of America by putting a $279 tillion Lien on the Department of Justice in America, the American Bar Association, and the International Bar Association.

The article below is an update of the development of what is revolving around this court case with other information with their links. The case was filed October 15th and they(DOJ, ABA, and IBA) have 90 days(Jan 13th) to answer it.

4 SUPERIOR COURT JUDGES UNITE TO IGNITE $279 TRILLION LIEN

December 7, 2015by Doreen Agostino
Dec 15.15 update with many details

https://ourgreaterdestiny.wordpress.com/...-trillion-lien/
From Diane Hicks Dec 06.15
Quote:
Well today I had the honor of speaking with Judge Bruce Doucette who commented that we need to fix the system and right now. Bruce is now retired, told me he made a lot of money, yet something keeps pulling him back to help fix the broken system.
Bruce is heading to Montrose Colorado Dec 07.15 trying to get Judge Steve Curry out of jail along with his wife Sandra. Steve was thrown in jail for filing the $279 Trillion dollar Lien. They also arrested his wife Sandra who is 71 years old. Court case is tomorrow, ought to be interesting Judges going up against Judges. I don’t have all the information, not sure if it was for just filing the lien or other charges as well. So far there are four Superior Court Judges on the $279 Trillion lien filed, along with many others. Please don’t take this information lightly, these people are risking their lives, for this word we call FREEDOM.
The other Judges I spoke with today put Anna von Reitz up on a pedestal where she belongs. This women is truly amazing, Anna really wants to educate the public, so please take the time to help her by educating those around you.
I suggested that perhaps one of the judges can help free Thomas Deegan. [Doreen]
Judge Bruce Doucette
iq175bruce@gmail.com
720-338-0394
Judge Gary Dean Darby
krimson3@drby.us
541-862-2074
Diane spoke with Gary today who asked her to send out websites the Judges are working on together [see below].
Judge Steve Curry arrested for being the person who was instrumental for the $279 Trillion dollar lien [PDF below].
cwheileg@gmail.com
970-249-8879
Sandra Tyler 71 years old,arrested, court case tomorrow December 7th, wife of Judge Steve Curry
Judge Anna Maria Riezinger
avannavon@gmail.com
907-250-5087
https://fourcornersdoctrine.wordpress.com/
http://sovereignproject.com/ lots of videos on this website
http://theamericans.us/groups/judges/members/ thousands of people on here if you go under groups
http://green-island-project.net/
These Judges were absolutely amazing to talk with today.They too now realize they’ve been fooled by the system. ” THANK GOD FOR THAT WAKE UP CALL, BETTER SOONER THAN LATER” [End]
An Affidavit and Commercial Lien was filed in Mesa County Colorado against the cabal that will change everything. It CAN NOT BE ANSWERED because it is 100% true. It is a true bill or affidavit of facts.
This lien has an S.E.C. trace number of 2640220.
It MUST be answered by January 15th 2016, or the Lien Debtors must pay 279 Trillion dollars to the Lien Claimants, the American people. This document can NOT be reviewed by any “court” as it is a commercial affidavit operating in the land jurisdiction, and under commercial law.
There is NO statute of limitations on fraud. Fraud vitiates and cancels all contracts that it touches.
This might be the very last chance we have to solve the problems of out of control “government” in America by peaceful means. The claimants of this affidavit are real peacemakers, giving their opponents a real chance to repent and make their restitution without the use of physical force if their lien debtors show good faith and answer their allegations in the affidavit/lien/indictment.
Here is the actual lien document that was filed on October 15th, 2015 in Colorado. http://www.annavonreitz.com/commerciallien.pdf
SOURCE with thanks http://www.paulstramer.net/2015/11/the-fat-is-now-in-fire-cabal-is-on-run.html
Pray: unaware humans embrace good news, and VAST numbers of humans pull together to reclaim unalienable rights, willingly cooperate and renew this great Earth.
Please! Share this information to support these courageous Judges, their families, and others on the front line doing everything possible to defeat the cabal. Imagine, sense, ‘feel’, and give thanks for our victory with most ease and grace!
Sincerely,
Doreen Ann Agostino
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/16/15 11:45 PM

http://annavonreitz.com/dearfederalagents.pdf

Anna Maria Riezinger (Anna Von Reitz)
November 28, 2015
Big Lake, Alaska

Dear Federal Agents:

I am addressing this letter in this way, because it is my understanding that it will be read by members of both the FBI and the US Marshals Service. It is also my understanding that you have available for examination a wet-ink signed copy of the illustrated affidavit of probable cause entitled “You Know Something Is Wrong When.....An American Affidavit of Probable Cause” as back-up reference and evidence.

Since the publication of the affidavit a plethora of new supporting documentation and evidence has come to light. We found, for example, that on June 30, 1864, the members of Congress acting as the Board of Directors of a private, mostly foreign-owned corporation doing business as “The United States of America, Incorporated” changed the meaning of “state”, “State” and “United States” to mean “District of Columbia Municipal Corporation”. Like the 1862 change of the meaning of the word “person” to mean “corporation” cited in our affidavit, these special coded meanings of words render a drastically different picture of the world around us.

It turns out that your “personal bank account” is actually a “corporate bank account”. The “Colorado State Court” is actually the “Colorado District of Columbia Municipal Corporation Court”.

If you are shocked to learn these facts, you are not alone. So are millions of other Americans. These changes were made 150 years ago and tucked away in reams of boring meeting minutes and legalistic gobbledygook meant to be applied only to the internal workings of a private governmental services corporation and its employees.

There was no public announcement, just as there was no public announcement or explanation when Congress created “municipal citizenship” known as “US citizenship” in 1868. Properly, technically, even to this day, this form of “citizenship” applies only to those born in the District of Columbia, Guam, Puerto Rico, and other Insular States, so there was no real reason to educate the general public about the topic. As Congress was secretively using the labor and the private property assets of these “citizens” as collateral backing the corporate debts of “The United States of America, Inc.” there was plenty of reason to obscure this development. At the end of the Civil War it would have been very unpopular to reveal that they were simply changing gears from private sector slave ownership to public sector slave ownership.

You may be surprised to learn that slavery was not abolished by the Thirteenth or any other Amendment to any constitution then or now. Instead, slavery was redefined as the punishment meted out to criminals. Look it up and read it for yourselves. It remains perfectly legal to enslave criminals, and it was left to Congress to define who the criminals were, because Congress was given plenary power over the District of Columbia and its citizenry by the original Constitution of the Republic and could do whatever it liked within the District and the Washington, DC Municipalities.

A child picking dandelions on the sidewalk could be arbitrarily defined as a criminal and enslaved for life by the renegade Congress functioning as the government of the District of Columbia and as the Board of Directors for the District of Columbia Municipal Corporation, but for starters, Congress simply defined “US citizens” as debt slaves under the 14th Amendment of their corporation’s articles and by-laws----which they deceptively named the “Constitution of the United States of America”.

The actual Constitution was and still is called “The Constitution for the united States of America”, but most people untrained in the Law and trusting what they believed to be their government didn’t notice the difference between “The Constitution for the united States of America” and the “Constitution of the United States of America”.

Are you beginning to see a pattern of deliberate deceit and self-interest and double-speak and double-dealing? And are you also beginning to catch the drift---the motivation---behind it? Let’s discuss the concept of “hypothecation of debt”. This little gem was developed by the bankers who actually owned and ran the governmental services corporations doing business as “The United States of America, Inc.” and as the “United States, Incorporated”.

When you hypothecate debt against someone or against some asset belonging to someone else, you simply claim that they agreed to stand as surety for your debt --- similar to cosigning a car loan --- and as long as you make your payments, nobody is any the wiser. Normally, it’s not possible for us to just arbitrarily claim that someone is our surety for debt without proof of consent, but that is exactly what Franklin Delano Roosevelt and the Conference of Governors did in March of 1933. They named all of us and all our property as surety standing good for the debts of their own bankrupt governmental services corporation during bankruptcy reorganization----and got away with it by claiming that they were our “representatives” and that we had delegated our authority to them to do this “for” us.

The exact date and occasion when this happened and where it is recorded, is given in our affidavit.

In order to pull this off, however, they had to allege that we were all “US citizens”, and therefore, all subject to the plenary power of Congress acting as an oligarchy ruling over the District of Columbia and the Federal Territories. They did this by abusing the public trust and creating and registering millions of foreign situs trusts named after each of us. Under their own diversity of citizenship rules, corporations are considered to be “US citizens”. So they created all these foreign situs trusts as franchises of their own bankrupt corporation, used our names styled like this: John Quincy Adams----and placed commercial liens against our names as chattel owned by their corporation and standing as surety for its debts. A group of thugs elected to political office grossly transgressed against the American people and the American states and committed the crime of personage against each and every one of us without us ever being aware of it.

They couldn’t enslave us, but they could enslave a foreign situs trust named after us--- that we conveniently didn’t know existed--- and by deliberately confusing this “thing” with us via the misuse of our given names, they could bring charges against what appeared to be us and our private property in their very own corporate tribunals.

[Note: This refers to the difference between a flesh-and-blood man named John Doe and a corporate entity created for us at birth called JOHN DOE. Most people are unaware of the legal distinction.]

And so the fleecing of America began in earnest. The hirelings had our credit cards, had stolen our identities, and were ready to begin a crime spree unheralded in human history. They claimed that we all knew about this arrangement and consented to it, because we “voluntarily” gave up our gold when FDR sent his henchmen around to collect it----when as millions of Americans can attest, people gave up their gold in preference to being shot or having to kill federal agents. They chose life for everyone concerned over some pieces of metal, and for that, they are to be honored; unfortunately, their decision gave the rats responsible an excuse to claim that Americans wanted to leave the gold standard and wanted the “benefits” of this New Deal in “equitable exchange” for their gold, their identities, the abuse of their good names as bankrupts and debtors, the loss of allodial title to their land and homes, and their subjection as slaves to the whims of Congress.

According to them---that is, those who benefited from this gross betrayal of the public trust--- we all voluntarily left the Republic and the guarantees of the actual Constitution behind, willingly subjected ourselves to Congressional rule, donated all our assets including our labor and property to the Public Charitable Trust (set up after the Civil War as a welfare trust for displaced plantation slaves), and agreed to live as slaves owned by the District of Columbia Municipal Corporation in exchange for what?

Welfare that we paid for ourselves. Social Security that we paid for ourselves.

The criminality of the “US Congress” and the “Presidents” acting since 1933 is jaw-droppingly shocking. Their abuse of the trust of the American people is even worse. They have portrayed this circumstance as a political choice instead of an institutionalized fraud scheme, and they have “presumed” that we all went along with it and agreed to it without complaint. Thus, they have been merrily and secretively having us declared “civilly dead” as American State Citizens the day we are born, and entering a false registration claiming that we are “US Citizens” instead.

We are told, when we wake up enough to ask, that we are free to choose our political status. We don’t have to serve as debt slaves. We can go back and reclaim our guaranteed Republican form of government and our birthright status if we want to---- but that requires a secret process in front of the probate court and expatriation from the Federal United States to the Continental United States and all sorts of voo-doo in backrooms that can only be pursued by the few and the knowledgeable and the blessed. Everyone else has to remain as a debt slave and chattel serving whatever corporation bought the latest version of corporate “persona” named after us.

So let me ask you, as members of the FBI and as US Marshals---- does this sound like something you want to be involved with enforcing on innocent people, or does it sound like something you want to end as expeditiously as possible?

The frauds that took root in the wake of the Civil War and which blossomed in the 1930’s have come to their final fruition. Employees of the “District of Columbia Municipal Corporation” and its United Nations successors are being used as jack-booted thugs to throw Americans into privately owned “federal correctional facilities” when those who need correction---- the members of the American Bar Association and the euphemistically named and privately owned and operated “DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE”---continue to ignore the fact that Americans DO have a choice and that by the millions we are demanding our freedom from all these pathetic false commercial claims and presumptions.

We are standing up before the whole world and telling these privately owned “governmental services corporations” to go bankrupt like any other corporation that doesn’t do its job and mind its budget. These entities deserve to go bankrupt and worse. They have spent money and credit that was never theirs to spend. They have defrauded millions if not billions of innocent people and they have prevented Americans from claiming their birthrights for far too long.

These people--- the members of Congress and the various “Presidents” of the numerous “United States” corporations --- have acted as criminals. They deserve to be recognized as such.

The members of the American Bar Association have attempted to wash their hands while profiting from the situation and obstructing justice. They stand around shrugging and saying, “Well, it’s a political choice. We don’t have anything to say about that.”-----yet at the same time, they refuse to correct the probate records to reflect our chosen change of political status when we plainly identify ourselves and enunciate our Will for them. They, too, deserve to be recognized as self-interested criminals and accomplices to identity theft, credit fraud, and worse--- which is why we have recently issued a $279 trillion dollar commercial obligation lien against the American Bar Association, the International Bar Association, and the DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

All our assets--- our bodies, homes, businesses, lands, and labor---have been signed over into the “Public Charitable Trust” by con men merely claiming to represent us. Then, when we object to their lies and entrapment, they use the same fraud against us as their excuse for bringing more false claims against us and throwing us in jail. Enough is enough.

The British Monarch and the Lords of the Admiralty have promoted this fraud against us at the same time they have claimed to be our trustees, allies and friends in perpetuity. It’s time to clear the way for us to politely and peaceably exit from any presumption that we are or ever were “US citizens”, willing participants in the “Public Charitable Trust”, or willing “sureties” for the debts of any private bank-run governmental services corporation merely calling itself the United States of Something or Other.

We repudiate any presumption of private municipal citizenship or obligation to the District of Columbia Municipal Corporation or any successor thereof, and demand an immediate and permanent correction of the civil record to reflect our birthright status as American State Citizens, nunc pro tunc.

As for you, as “Federal Agents”, you have a lot to think about. For starters--- who really pays your paycheck? Is it the goons in Washington, DC? Or does it all come from the American people you are supposed to be serving? Do you believe for one moment that anyone just lined up and gave their gold to FDR voluntarily? Do you believe that anyone gave away all their property and the guarantees of the actual Constitution for the “privilege” of paying for Social Security? No?

Wake up and smell the java and start doing your real jobs. If anyone complains---arrest him. We are reopening the American Common Law Courts expressly for the purpose of settling disputes related to living people and their property assets in excess of $20 as mandated by the Seventh Amendment.

We, the American people, are the ones holding absolute civil authority upon the land of the Continental United States, and we give you permission to arrest the members of Congress, the President, the Secretary of the Treasury, and any other politician or appointee pretending to speak for us so as to enslave us and bring false claims against us via this institutionalized fraud scheme. We want it recognized for what it is and dismantled and repudiated tout de suite.

Any court that is caught arresting and prosecuting Americans under the presumptions just described to you--- such as bringing charges against foreign situs trusts with names styled like this: John Quincy Adams, or Cestui Que Vie trusts styled like this: JOHN QUINCY ADAMS, or Puerto Rican public transmitting utilities styled like this: JOHN Q. ADAMS----it is your responsibility to make sure that any individuals being addressed by these courts were actually born in the District of Columbia, Guam, Puerto Rico, or one of the other Insular States and that they are not ignorant American State Citizens being falsely registered and railroaded.

Do you understand? Is it now completely clear who the criminals are? Your actual employers and benefactors are being attacked and defrauded by criminals pretending to act as their elected representatives and accomplices in black robes who are serving as enforcers of this fraud for profit. This has been happening right under your noses.

This whole circumstance has escaped broad scale public understanding because it was being pursued by private governmental services corporations owned and operated by international banking cartels who claimed that these “private arrangements” were none of the public’s business, despite the grotesque and far-ranging impact these cozy understandings have had upon the people of this and many other countries.

Let it be perfectly clear to you that the business of these private corporations has become our business because they have operated in violation of their charters, in violation of the treaties allowing their existence, and in violation of the National Trust. The American Bar Association and the Internal Revenue Service have both been owned and operated as private foreign bill collectors and trust administrators by Northern Trust, Inc., in violent conflict of interest. They are not professional associations, non-profits, nor units of government. They are con artists and privateers whose licenses expired as of September 1, 2013.

The United States Marshals Service is enabled to act in the capacity of constitutionally – sworn Federal Marshals and we invoke their office and service as such; failure to accept the public office means rejection of all authority related to us. The same may be said of the FBI. Either you do your jobs as constitutionally sworn public officers, or you act as private mall cops in behalf of the offending corporations and under color of law when you pretend to have any public authority or function.

This is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Judge Anna Maria Riezinger

Alaska State Superior Court
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/17/15 02:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Well here is a youtube video of 3 electricians from Australia that took Keshe blue print that was pubished Oct 16 2015 to build a unit from scratch on their own. They succeeded and the simple devise prduces 30% more watts that was fed thru the devise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlUQ9YOmTFo

Did you also notice other videos in the list, particularly these two? Seems like someone else here had brought out Keshe claims to be the Messiah. That he has created us, and at his wish, he will end our lives. He will reunite people to the rest of the universe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXWRlgno_YA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5CVTFCMYAM

Fits in with the other false profits, no?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/18/15 03:36 PM

Congress prepares to ratify IMF reforms, as Fed raises interest rates

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...interest-rates/

by Stephen Jones
Dec 16, 2015

In recent years the US government has used its power to impose sanctions on whoever it pleases, especially those nations that do not have Rothschild-owned central banks. Any oil-producing nation that decides to accept payment for oil in a currency other than the US dollar has been overthrown (Iraq, Libya, etc.).

The nations have become allies by fear, not by love, and now many are turning against the US government. In 2010 the IMF voted to shift the voting power to reflect the increasing economic power of China and other developing nations. The only holdout has been the US Congress, which does not want to admit that its empire is diminishing.

Because of this opposition, China, Russia, India, and other countries began to create their own trade systems that bypass the Fed’s SWIFT payments system—and the US dollar itself. Now that the alternate systems are in place, it seems that the US congress is belatedly agreeing to the IMF reforms.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/imf-quo...=MW_latest_news

Quote:
“WASHINGTON--U. S. lawmakers look set to ratify a five-year-old international deal to overhaul the governance of the International Monetary Fund that gives emerging markets such as China greater power at the emergency lender.

“Lawmaker approval would resolve a long-running grievance by emerging powers that their voice and vote at the shareholder institution doesn’t represent their growing economic heft in the world.

“Congressional leaders agreed early Wednesday morning to include the changes in a catch-all spending bill, which could become law in the coming days.”

By this time, of course, it is too late to stop the alternate payment system based in China.

This comes on the heels of the Fed’s decision today to raise interest rates by .25%.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/12/16/fed-raises-interest-rates-cites-ongoing-u-s-economic-recovery/21284564/?icid=maing-grid7|htmlws-sb-bb|dl1|sec1_lnk3&pLid=558444784

Quote:
“WASHINGTON -- The Federal Reserve hiked interest rates for the first time in nearly a decade on Wednesday, signaling faith that the U.S. economy had largely overcome the wounds of the 2007-2009 financial crisis….

"The Committee judges that there has been considerable improvement in labor market conditions this year, and it is reasonably confident that inflation will rise over the medium term to its 2 percent objective," the Fed said in its policy statement, which was adopted unanimously….

“The dollar firmed modestly after the rate rise. Based on interest rate futures markets, traders expected a second hike in April.

“The median projected target interest rate for 2016 remained 1.375 percent, implying four quarter-point rate hikes next year.”

It is the first raise in nearly 10 years. The Fed is putting a smiley face on this, telling us that the economy is strong enough to handle it. But it is clear from their past reluctance to raise rates that they do not believe this themselves. They are being forced to do this in order to save face, and also because failure to raise rates would make everyone question the true state of the economy. That is what happened last September when they failed to raise the rate after promising to do so.

It will be interesting to watch the stock market. No doubt the Plunge Protection Team is poised to spend massive amounts of money buying shares of stock in order to support the markets and keep investors calm. Will they be able to keep the markets stable? We will see in the next few weeks.

In the past year the US dollar has strengthened considerably as other currencies have weakened in value. Raising interest rates normally strengthens any currency, so we should watch the value of the US dollar. If it continues to increase, it would negatively affect exports and increase imports. This would aggravate the balance of trade.

I find it curious that at the same time the Fed raises interest rates, Congress would finally consider ratifying the IMF reforms after resisting them for the past five years. These are both momentous changes that can have far-reaching economic and political effects.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/18/15 03:54 PM

My comment: This gives us a good visual perspective of the different representation form of money and debts currently in the world. Click on the link to see the visual.

All Of The World’s Money And Markets In One Visualization

link at zerohedge

12/17/2015
By Jeff Desjardins of Visual Capitalist and the Money Project

Quote:
How much money exists in the world?

Strangely enough, there are multiple answers to this question, and the amount of money that exists changes depending on how we define it. The more abstract definition of money we use, the higher the number is.

In this data visualization of the world’s total money supply, we wanted to not only compare the different definitions of money, but to also show powerful context for this information. That’s why we’ve also added in recognizable benchmarks such as the wealth of the richest people in the world, the market capitalizations of the largest publicly-traded companies, the value of all stock markets, and the total of all global debt.

The end result is a hierarchy of information that ranges from some of the smallest markets (Bitcoin = $5 billion, Silver above-ground stock = $14 billion) to the world’s largest markets (Derivatives on a notional contract basis = somewhere in the range of $630 trillion to $1.2 quadrillion).

In between those benchmarks is the total of the world’s money, depending on how it is defined. This includes the global supply of all coinage and banknotes ($5 trillion), the above-ground gold supply ($7.8 trillion), the narrow money supply ($28.6 trillion), and the broad money supply ($80.9 trillion).

All figures are in the equivalent of US dollars.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/18/15 08:18 PM

Elle, a question you should find out for yourself:
What is a "Power factor correction device" used in the "Magrav Power Schematics".
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/22/15 06:27 PM

My comment : January 14th & 15th is a type of Passover for January is the first month of the year on the Julian calendar. I'm not saying the Lord always makes something happen then, but at time He does to show us what He's doing. In 2016, we are seeing two great event pointing to this date: 1)the $279 Trillion Lien court case and 2)the opening of the AIIB (Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank), that most countries including all of Europe have signed up with.

AIIB to Begin Operations in Mid January - Bank's Deputy Head
03.12.2015

The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) will commence operation in mid-January 2016, the AIIB's deputy head said Thursday.

Quote:
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) will commence operation in mid-January 2016, the AIIB's deputy head said Thursday.
According to Chen Huan, cited by the China's Xinhua news agency, the Bank's opening will be possible after India and Russia, two largest bank's shareholders after China, ratify the AIIB agreement in mid-December.
China ratified the agreement last month.
The AIIB is an international financial institution proposed by China to invest in infrastructure projects in the Asia-Pacific region. In October 2014, the bill establishing the bank was signed by 21 states. Currently, there are 57 prospective founding members in the financial organization.


My comment: The following article suggest that when China and Russia will announced a gold backed Ruble and yuan that would put an end to the Petro-dollar world monopoly. Many economist has been waiting for a few years for China and Russia to make such announcement. For sure we have seen China, Russia and India buying all the gold they can get for the past 5+ years. Maybe they will make this move with the coming opening of the AIIB Banks this coming mid-January. Time will tell.

Gold-Backed Ruble, Yuan to Trigger Global De-Dollarization

http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151205/1031294555/gold-ruble-yuan-global-dedolarization.html
Dec 5th 2015
Quote:
A gold-backed ruble and gold-backed yuan could start a 'snowball exit' from dollar F. William Engdahl notes, adding that it will diminish America's ability to use the reserve dollar role to finance Washington's perpetual overseas wars.

The irony of the situation is that the central banks of China, Russia, Brazil and other countries "diametrically opposed" to US foreign policy course are forced to stockpile dollars in the form of "safe" US Treasury debt in order to protect their economies, American-German researcher, historian and strategic risk consultant F. William Engdahl stresses.

The truth of the matter is that the role of the US dollar as the world's major reserve currency is the countries' economic Achilles Heel, the strategic risk consultant elaborates.
At the same time, by buying US Treasury debt in dollars, they are de facto financing Washington's "endless" overseas military operations.

Fortunately, "[t]hat's quietly changing. In 2014 Russia and China signed two mammoth 30-year contracts for Russian gas to China. The contracts specified that the exchange would be done in Renminbi [yuan] and Russian rubles, not in dollars. That was the beginning of an accelerating process of de-dollarization that is underway today," Engdahl writes in his article for New Eastern Outlook.

The researcher points out that on November 27 Russia's Central Bank reported that it has included the Chinese Renminbi (yuan) into its official reserves for the first time.

Furthermore, in August 2015 Russian currency traders bought almost 18 billion yuan and only 3 billion US dollars. It is obvious that Russia is gradually increasing the use of the yuan in Russian financial markets, substituting it for the US dollar.

"But the actions of Russia and China to replace the dollar as mediating currency in their mutual trade, a trade whose volume has grown significantly since US and EU sanctions in March 2014, are not the end of it," the researcher remarks.
According to Engdahl, there are clear signs showing that gold "is about to make dramatic return to the world monetary stage."

And it's not all good news for Washington.

While it is believed that the US Federal Reserve holds about 8,133 tons of gold, the rumors circulated that things are not what they seem and "the gold chamber of Fort Knox" are nearly empty, Engdahl narrates.

Adding more fuel to the fire are doubts surrounding US' official gold statistics, a strange event occurred in 2012.
"In 2012 the German Government asked the Federal Reserve to return German central bank gold 'held in custody' for the Bundesbank by the Fed. Shocking the world, the US central bank refused to give Germany her gold back, using the flimsy excuse that the Federal Reserve 'could not differentiate German gold bars from US ones…' Perhaps we are to believe the auditors of US Federal Reserve gold were laid off in the US budget cuts?" the researcher asks.

Engdahl remarks, that Germany is considered the second-largest gold holder with its reserves of 3381 tons of golden ingots.
Meanwhile, Moscow and Beijing are boosting their gold holdings steadily.

Engdahl emphasizes that from January 2013 Russia's official gold reserves increased by 129 percent to 1352 tons as of September 30, 2015, adding that during "the dark Yeltsin years" of the 1990s Russia's golden vaults contain only 343 tons.

"Russia now holds as many ounces of gold as the gold exchange-traded funds (ETFs) do," he stresses.

According to the researcher, Russia and China are decisively paving the way for the world economy de-dollarization.

"A Russian-Chinese alternative to the dollar in the form of a gold-backed ruble and gold-backed Renminbi or yuan, could start a snowball exit from the US dollar, and with it, a severe decline in America's ability to use the reserve dollar role to finance her wars with other peoples' money," Engdahl concludes.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/22/15 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : January 14th & 15th is a type of Passover for January is the first month of the year on the Julian calendar. I'm not saying the Lord always makes something happen then, but at time He does to show us what He's doing. In 2016, we are seeing two great event pointing to this date:
Why? And why?

Elle, you seem to often make a similar statement regarding many dates of your choosing. Reminds me of a horoscope.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/23/15 02:48 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : January 14th & 15th is a type of Passover for January is the first month of the year on the Julian calendar. I'm not saying the Lord always makes something happen then, but at time He does to show us what He's doing. In 2016, we are seeing two great event pointing to this date:
Why? And why?

Elle, you seem to often make a similar statement regarding many dates of your choosing. Reminds me of a horoscope.

The Passover set on the 14-15th of the first month of the year was not set by me but the Lord.

Nor is it me that set all these other calendars and todays Julian calendar that the leading countries goes by.

Nor is it me who told those who could hear to watch the 14-15th of the 1st month of the Julian calendar (which is a Passover Type of date) for His signs to give us some clue of what He's doing this coming Passover in 2016.

I understand this is hard for you to grasp as it is hard for you to grasp the spiritual meanings of the types and shadows set in the feasts and other laws. However, that's why I'm giving you a head up. Let's watch together and see what will happen. That's how we learn what the Lord is doing from year to year -- by watching what he's doing on the Feast dates on two different calendar that He has set up Himself. At times the events that happens on the feast days on the Julian calendar gives us a clue what will come later in the actual feast time.

I was simply pointing out that two major events are pointing to mid January that we should watch and see what the Lord will do on these potential watch dates.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/23/15 02:22 PM

My comment: It appears that World War III has already stopped in the middle East. That was short. On Dec 19th, Turkey removed its troops from Northern Iraq. With Russia's strong military presence there, no countries who secretly are helping ISIS dares to get out of line in Syria or in Iraq.

Here's 5 main events that denotes Russia's recent ISIS victory in the Middle East and Mystery Babylon's submission to Russia :

1. Dec 15th : "US Secretary of State John Kerry announced that the Obama regime would no longer be seeking regime change in Syria—which just 4 weeks ago President Obama vowed he would never allow happen."

2. Dec 16th: "US Vice President Joseph Biden ordered Turkey to immediately remove its invading troops from Iraq—which just 6 days ago the US State Department refused to even acknowledge happened."

3. Dec 16th : "The Pentagon ordered the immediate removal from Turkey of the F-15 fighter jets the US had just stationed there and which posed a threat to Federation Aerospace Forces."

4. Dec 16th : "The Obama regime agreed to join Russia in offering a UN Resolution seeking to cut off Islamic State funding—an action that will occur at a rare UN Security Council meeting to be chaired by the US later today."

5. Dec 19th : "Turkey withdraws troops from Nothern Iraq

However the West(Mystery Babylon's puppet countries) has not completly given up supporting ISIS in the midde East(whatever is left ** see note 7 & 8 below) They want to make it as hard as they can for Russia's effort to end ISIS.

6. Dec 19th : Turkey and Europe close airspace to Russian long-range bombers

“Europe and Turkey closed airspace for Russian Long-Range Aviation planes carrying out airstrikes on Daesh positions in Syria, forcing Russian pilots to reroute, Deputy Commander Maj. Gen. Anatoly Konovalov said Saturday.”

Originally Posted By: Stephen Jones

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...-range-bombers/

In the continuing war between Russia and ISIS and its US/Turkish sponsors, this is just one more way that the West is assisting ISIS. But for every action, there is a reaction. This will simply motivate Russia to build its military presence in Syria and to construct a second airfield, which Putin has been contemplating.

It is increasingly clear in government circles around the world that the West is ISIS’ greatest sponsor, along with Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Is someone deliberately trying to make the US odious to the world? It won’t take much more to cause a great vomit party.


7. Dec 6th: Reports shows that ISIS fled mainly to Libya and established its new headquarter there. So Libya has been asking Russia's military assistance for awhile to resolve this problem.

8. Dec 6th : Also, Syria is offering pardon to encourage ISIS militants to surrender. Why haven't MainStream Media covered that yet? Could it be it didn't serve Mystery Babylon interest?
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940915001373
Quote:
The sources said that the recent victories of the Syrian army and National Defense Forces (NDF), with the backup of the Russia fighter jets, have caused a growing number of Takfiri terrorists to lay down their arms in Dara’a province in the hope that they will be pardoned by the government.

Earlier today, the Syrian government announced that it has released tens of militants who had been jailed for armed struggle against the Damascus government.

President Bashar Assad’s government freed 270 militants within the framework of the country's reconciliation plan, the Arabic service of Russia Today television channel said.

The development came after President Bashar al-Assad in a televised address in July pardoned all soldiers who have fled the army, saying that his words served as a general decree to relevant officials.

A growing number of militants are giving up fight against the Damascus government as the Syrian army is advancing in multiple front across the country.

On Saturday, some 200 wanted militants from Zabadani region and Madaya in Damascus province turned themselves in to the authorities.

"The Syrian government has vowed to pardon all those who lay down arms voluntarily and it has remained loyal to its pledge so far, and this has encouraged us to give up fight, specially considering that the government troops, National Defense Forces and Hezbollah who also enjoy the air backup of the Syrian and Russian air forces has gained momentum in its battlefield victories," one of those who surrendered in Damascus said.

Until last year, most surrendering cases happened in Homs and Damascus provinces, but now a growing number of militants lay down arms across the country.

In October, some 558 wanted militants surrendered to the Syrian authorities as the army troops, backed by Russian air support, had gained a faster momentum in their match on terrorist-held regions.

On Oct 28, 49 wanted persons from Damascus, Damascus Countryside, Quneitra, and Hama also surrendered.

Late in November, sources said some 159 wanted militants had turned themselves in to the authorities as the army continued to purge almost the entire coastal province of Lattakia of terrorist groups.

The sources said that the recent victories of the Syrian army and National Defense Forces, with the backup of the Russia fighter jets, have caused too many Takfiri terrorists to lay down their guns and apply for government pardoning in Lattakia province.

On Nov 1, at least 184 terrorists have laid down arms and surrendered to the Syrian authorities in Damascus, Aleppo and Deir Ezzur provinces, local sources said.

Following the Syrian-Russian joint operations, thousands of Takfiri terrorists have also fled Syria to Jordan, Turkey and Europe.

On Nov 11, some 69 wanted militants turned themselves in to the Syrian authorities in the Northern Province of Aleppo as the army defeated the ISIL terrorists who had laid siege on Kuweires Airbase for 2.5 years and still continues to gain more territories in the province.

Some 119 wanted terrorists from Homs province surrendered to the government as the terrorist groups are retreating from several areas across the country.

60 others from the provinces of Damascus, Quneitra and Homs also laid down arms and turned themselves in to the Syrian authorities on Nov
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/25/15 08:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
The Passover set on the 14-15th of the first month of the year was not set by me but the Lord.

Nor is it me that set all these other calendars and todays Julian calendar that the leading countries goes by.
Are you intending to suggest that the Lord set up the Julian calendar?

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Nor is it me who told those who could hear to watch the 14-15th of the 1st month of the Julian calendar (which is a Passover Type of date) for His signs to give us some clue of what He's doing this coming Passover in 2016.
Two "passovers"?

Regarding any passover today:
It was Christ's desire to leave to His disciples an ordinance that would do for them the very thing they needed--that would serve to disentangle them from the rites and ceremonies which they had hitherto engaged in as essential, and which the reception of the gospel made no longer of any force. To continue these rites would be an insult to Jehovah. Eating of the body, and drinking of the blood, of Christ, not merely at the sacramental service, but daily partaking of the bread of life to satisfy the soul's hunger, would be in receiving His Word and doing His will (RH June 14, 1898). {5BC 1139.6} {RH, June 14, 1898 par. 16}



Yes, your thoughts are hard for me to grasp.

What if we say the year starts at the solstice?
If we say the year starts in February, then what happens on the 14th?
What if we got our beliefs from youtube? Lot's of interesting ideas out there.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/05/16 05:09 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
#138560 - 01/02/12 "about a new global economic restructuring arising in 2012".

#148963 - 01/11/13 "I think they had thought that it would of been done before 2012 ended, however, it is taking longer.... We'll see what the Lord will accomplish this year. "

#158982 - 12/05/13 "No-one know the date, however the signs are all around us. "

Hmmmm. If not in 2014, at least by the beginning of 2015. And if not at the beginning of 2015, at least by the end.....

2012
2013
2014
2015
2016?

Originally Posted By: Elle
Be careful – for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

AV Dt 13: 1 . If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Things that make you go hmmmm....
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/07/16 05:03 PM

My Comment : I think this is a great idea the Green Party is suggesting. To me this have strong Jubilee elements, but I am expecting some more to come.

After the fall of Mystery Babylon, a Jubilee will be impremented in each countries like we have seen in the type of old Babylon's fall. King Cyrus funded many nations to reconstruct their cities and temple. It was not only Jerusalem and its temple that Cyrus gave aid to. and who know what else Cyrus implemented to free the people in those days. This is the pattern the Lord has set. The Lord has linked these two beast Babylonian Empires(the first and the last) by name. Plus He has linked these two empires by events in Rev 16:12. To know what will happened at the fall of Mystery Babylon, all we need to do is look at the pattern set with Old Babylon. That's why I'm expecting a Jubilee.

Elizabeth's suggestion may be implemented by which would be a good start to restructure our government and social services and give a boost to our economy.

Elizabeth May: Paying Everyone A Basic Income Will End Poverty AND Save Money
Posted: 10/06/2015

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/10/06/basic-income-canada-green-party-elizabeth-may_n_8246800.html

Call it basic income, guaranteed annual income, negative income tax, or minimum income, it all essentially amounts to the same simple solution: eliminate poverty by giving people money.

The idea — supported by 46 per cent of Canadians according to one poll — has boosters across the political spectrum because it not only helps people, it can also save money by reducing bureaucracy and poverty-related health care and criminal justice expenses.

The Canadian Medical Association endorsed basic income this past summer and nearly 200 physicians signed a letter to Ontario's health minister calling for a pilot project because "income is the great divide when it comes to Canadians' health."

It's been attempted before, like Manitoba's pioneering "Mincome" experiment in the 1970s (read more about it here) where people who were living below the poverty line were given a no-strings-attached supplement.

Other approaches involve giving every single citizen a subsistence-level amount of money, and then having it gradually reduced and eventually eliminated at tax time in proportion to base income.

This is a preferred approach by some because it encourages people to work — especially those with part-time or minimum wage jobs — as they still receive some supplementary basic income payments on top of their own earnings up to a point. As well, it eliminates the complicated tax credits and bureaucratic costs of the current social assistance system because there are no eligibility requirements or surveillance required.

One of Canada's loudest proponents of basic income has been former Tory senator Hugh Segal. In a HuffPost blog in 2013, he wrote that we can't let "the ideological conceit that a rising tide lifts all boats obscure the hard reality that many Canadians have no boat or access to anyone who has ever had a boat."

Segal's views, however, have not been taken up by Conservative Leader Stephen Harper.

No mention in Liberal, NDP campaigns

The Liberal membership, meanwhile, passed a priority resolution last year calling for the party to "design and implement a Basic Annual Income." However, there is no mention of it in the Liberal's just-released election platform.

The federal NDP have been mum on the subject throughout the campaign, preferring instead to discuss a $15 minimum wage for federal workers — though there have been murmurs that Alberta's NDP government might give it a trial run with support from the mayors of Calgary and Edmonton.

The Green Party, however, has made basic income one of the most important planks of their platform, tying it to their anti-poverty efforts and their elder care strategy. Dubbing their version the "Guaranteed Livable Income" (GLI), the Greens would use "a single, universal, unconditional cash benefit delivered through the tax system" to replace the current complex system of federal and provincial support.

That means eliminating federal transfers for such programs as welfare, disability, seniors supplements, and child benefits. However, the proposed GLI would impact neither Employment Insurance or the Canada Pension Plan, which workers pay into, nor low-income subsidies for child care, social housing, or drug benefits.

The Greens would then give every Canadian a regular GLI payment and set a minimum income level just above the poverty line. After that point, the GLI would be gradually taxed back until it was eliminated at a ceiling of, say, $60,000.

The Huffington Post Canada sat down with party leader Elizabeth May to discuss why providing a basic income to all Canadians would pay off for Canada.

Tell me about the Green Party's "guaranteed livable income"?

The goal is to make sure that no Canadian lives in poverty. Let's skip the steps that involve what I regard as a shame-based system. The current system is very inefficient economically as well as allowing people to live in poverty who shouldn't. We can actually have a society where no one lives in poverty.

But to get there from here, which is why we don't have it budgeted in the line-item budget, will require federal, provincial, municipal as well as First Nations, Inuit and Métis governments all working together to figure out exactly what programs we can wrap up.

We've been hearing a lot about a $15 minimum wage. What is your take on that as a way to combat poverty?

We do support a $15 minimum wage for workers under federal jurisdiction, and that's the same limitation that's on the NDP promise because the federal government doesn't regulate provincial minimum wage rates.

The fact is that most of the new jobs that are being created are precarious employment, part-time employment. At least once we have a guaranteed livable income, people in those kinds of jobs would keep that income, and not have it clawed back [like with welfare].

Right now where we're in a situation that's very worrying, where the highest wealth earners are at an increasing distance from the lowest. Eighty-six Canadian families have more combined wealth than 11.4 million Canadians at the bottom of the income pyramid. That's bad for everyone.

That's one of the points that we want to drive home: this isn't about some sort of gold-plated charity program. This is about the economic wealth and well-being of Canada as a whole. It will fix our health-care system, it will fix our criminal justice system. But more than that, it gives every Canadian kid a chance to succeed in life. Inter-generational poverty is something we have to address. It's much worse in the U.S. than it is here, but we are going in the wrong direction.

There are a couple ways of going about this. Your way is give money to everybody and then claw it back at tax time. The Mincome experiment topped up people below the poverty line. Why do you think the universal approach is better?

I don't like to use the term clawback, because that's just what happens to people now on welfare who, as they earn any income at all, have it pulled out of their welfare payments. That is extremely perverse.

We don't claw anything back. It's just that as people make more, they get into the range of being tax-paying citizens. It's a good thing to give it to everyone because we eliminate income splitting that Stephen Harper brought in and generally only benefits families that are better off. This is a program that ensures that everyone can live with dignity.

It is very efficient because it costs a lot of money to check up on single mothers to see if she moved in with her boyfriend. It makes much more sense to give everybody a cheque so that you have no economic poverty anymore. People who receive that money are spending that money, they are happy to go out and make more money. It could end the [under-the-table] economy, which is very damaging to the health of our overall economy, expand our tax base, and create greater economic opportunities.

You mentioned gold-plated charity programs, that's the argument against basic income. How do you combat that?

Back in 2006 we held a policy conference on poverty and invited some of the researchers who were part of that program in Manitoba years ago. They said basically what it comes down to, no matter how you study it, is that it's going to be a leap of faith that this is going to work, that it helps the society.

But they said what they experienced in Manitoba — of course, it was a little different because everyone understood it was a pilot project and wouldn't go on forever — was the vast majority of people in the Manitoba experiment used the money well. They went back to school, they improved their life prospects.

The pushback is usually that everybody's going to be just lazy and sit back and do nothing their whole life because the state is taking care of them. What they actually found was that that wasn't what people did. The question is what do we think of human nature?

If re-elected, your influence is going to be felt by working with other parties. This seems to be one of those solutions that has the potential to reach out to all parties because it saves money and it helps people. What's the backing like in Parliament?

There was a Senate committee that looked at poverty and, of course, the lead there was a former senator Hugh Segal. He was definitely progressive conservative. There is interest in the topic, we just don't have any other party other than the Green party espousing this.

We see our role as being a party prepared to bring forward ideas whose time has come. We brought forward pharmacare this election campaign when no one else was talking about it. I think it's important for us to be the party that raises the issue and creates the debate.

And then we're very happy to have other parties take our ideas and run with them.

Have you costed out what the savings would be?

It's in the billions. The number one social determinant of health is poverty. You eliminate poverty, you're saving the health-care system. There are [also] enormous levels of savings in the actual shutdown of bureaucracy that provide band-aid solutions to poverty instead of actually ending poverty.

The GLI is part of your National Seniors Strategy. How would this alleviate some of the pressure of this aging Boomer population on our social services?


Our seniors policy includes a lot of pieces, obviously. The guaranteed livable income would take some time to bring in so in the short-term we would increase the guaranteed income supplement. We want to make sure we have housing that meets the needs of seniors. In some cases that means you have to ensure that there are the supports, such as homecare workers so you can stay in your own home. For others, you need respite care for an aging partner who has dementia. There are a lot of elements to this that require being thoughtful about what seniors really need.

How long, if you can get everybody onside, would a basic income plan actually take to go into effect?

It depends on how quickly the provinces and municipalities decide that it makes sense for them. It could happen very, very quickly, because it does save everybody money. That's the key. Once it's in place, every level of government wins.

And that something you can't say about every problem fix.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/07/16 06:16 PM

My comment : Kland the New Global Economic Restructure has been progressively been build as the articles posted here have shown since 2012 after the nations seeing that the Babylonian FED and World bank had no intention to reform their own Banks after being told in 2010. So in 2012, the nations started to build their own alternative Banking system to by-pass the Babylonian economic corrupt system. You must of missed all those articles.

The AIIB starts operation in mid-January 2016. The AIIB is ONE of the New Global Economic Banking Restructure implied about in 2012. The second one is "The New Development Bank" that is build by the BRICS nations, and the third one is "The New Silk Road Fund" representing Eastern trading nations. I expect other banking system will be added after these. It's not one system that will dominate all others like the current Babylonian system works as. It will be a cooperation of multi system all having a voice in how the economic affairs should be run.

We know the current system has not worked, is totally bankrupted, and the market has been majorly been collapsing since mid-August 2015. This fall of the Babylonian system will continue in 2016 in greater stride going into 2017. The timing of this fall is happening on the exact appointed time set by the Lord with the 7 times(7 x 360 = 2520 years) curse time judgment laid in Lev 26 and Deut 28. This time line is discussed in Post #16945

The Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank gears up
Posted 6/01/2016 by Cameron Hill
http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/P...y/AIIB-gears-up

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In anticipation of the commencement of operations in 2016, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) has been increasing its engagement with potential clients and development partners. The AIIB is one of three major new infrastructure financing initiatives led by China—the other two are the New Development Bank and the Silk Road Fund. The AIIB will have a total authorised capital of US$100 billion and initially aims to lend between US$10 and US$15 billion a year.

The AIIB’s incoming President, China’s former Vice-Minister for Finance, Jin Liqun (pictured), has recently met with the heads of the Asian Development Bank (ADB), the World Bank, and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development. Mr Jin has also visited several potential recipient countries—including Indonesia, Bangladesh, and Pakistan—where it is expected the AIIB will play an important role helping meet infrastructure funding gaps. Indonesian officials have expressed an interest in accessing US$1 billion in AIIB financing, including for coal-fired energy projects. Chinese state media reports that Burma is looking to the AIIB to fund priority projects, as is Thailand.

Regional financing needs are enormous. In 2009, the ADB estimated that between 2010 and 2020, Asia needs to invest approximately $US8 trillion in national infrastructure. Ambitious connectivity initiatives such as China’s ‘One Belt-One Road’ concept (OBOR, see map) and the Greater Mekong Sub-region (GMS, see map) network will also require the mobilisation of substantial levels of public and private capital.

In helping meet these needs, Mr Jin has promised that the AIIB will be characterised by a less bureaucratic and ‘leaner’ decision making structure than that of the established multilateral development banks. The AIIB Secretariat is recruiting staff, with a focus on experience in ‘investment finance, infrastructure development, treasury operations, administration, monitoring and evaluation, and management’. Significantly, unlike the ADB and the World Bank, the AIIB will have a part-time, non-resident board of directors, an arrangement that will likely enhance the autonomy of the bank’s Beijing-based managers.

Nevertheless, the AIIB is unlikely to be fully immune from the challenges that bedevil its established counterparts. Many of the countries that comprise OBOR rate high on assessments of levels of security, political and legal risk. In GMS countries such as Cambodia and Myanmar, some of China’s infrastructure investments have been a source of political contention. Assessments of credit risk and moral hazard will require meticulous due diligence, as will implementing members’ agreement that the AIIB’s social and environmental standards ‘should be based on international best practices’. The AIIB released draft standards for consultation in August 2015. Other challenges include building the capacity of local officials charged with implementing large-scale projects, allowing adequate time for project preparation and design, and ensuring transparent procurement arrangements. Mr Jin has stated that the AIIB will have a ‘zero-tolerance’ approach to corruption.

Seen in the light of these challenges, claims that the AIIB will simply be a vehicle for pursuing China’s regional economic and strategic objectives become harder to sustain. While China will have the largest voting share (see table), Beijing’s ability to pursue its own agenda through the AIIB will be tempered by the complexity of lending operations, the scrutiny that will inevitably surround the implementation of agreed standards and safeguards, and the strictures of the multilateral form. For these reasons, China will continue to pursue infrastructure investment opportunities outside of the AIIB framework, including through state-owned enterprises.

Nevertheless, the AIIB represents an important platform for Australia and others to engage with China on regional development issues. After some debate, in June 2015, Australia—along with 49 other founding members—signed the AIIB’s Articles of Agreement. An additional seven members have signed subsequently. As the Parliamentary Library noted at the time, the Australian Government’s decision to join the AIIB was supported by the Labor Opposition and the business community. The Australian Government will contribute US$738 million (approximately A$932 million) paid-in capital to the AIIB over five years and will be the sixth largest shareholder.

Australia has a long history of working with the established multilateral development banks to improve aid effectiveness in small island and ‘fragile’ states and, more recently, to strengthen social safeguards in areas like resettlement and HIV/AIDS prevention.

Australia is also gaining some experience working with China on development issues. In 2013, China and Australia signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) on Development Cooperation. This MOU provides the basis for a new joint program to combat malaria in Papua New Guinea.

The lessons that have emerged from this interaction, albeit tentative, in the field should assist Australia’s efforts to influence Beijing, other board members, and the bank’s management as the AIIB commences operations.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/07/16 07:08 PM

My comment : If I'm reading this article correctly, I think we have been experiencing another crash this week. There was a revelation given by someone that Stephen Jones made comments on his second part of post #176414 relating to the crash in August 2015. Basically there is 4 crashes, the fourth being the last one. If this revelation does come from the Lord, then probably this January 2016 crash is the third crash which is the last one before the final big one. Of course if the interpretation of the revelation is correct by counting the 2008 crash as the first one, the August 2015 crash as the second one. If the 2008 crash is not the first, then this January crash is the 2nd and not the third. Regardless, we all know this big one is coming and many economist has viewed the 2008 crash as only a hint of a coming major crash.

"The first three crashes are divine hints to see who is paying attention. This gives people an opportunity to lose confidence in Babylon, so that if they have any wealth to preserve, they might avoid losing it, even if they do not have ears to hear the word of the Lord.".

Global Stocks Crash After Spiraling Chinese Devaluation Unleashes Worldwide Chaos And Selling
by Tyler Durden on 01/07/2016
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-07...ldwide-chaos-an

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In yesterday's overnight market wrap, we commented that while Chinese stocks had succeeded in levitating following another massive government intervention, "the global market was far more focused with what was going on in China's currency, which as previously reported, plunged to new 5 year lows, while the spread between the onshore and offshore Yuan rose to a record wide, suggesting the depreciation in the currency is only going to accelerate from here, and a big payday for Kyle Bass is coming."

A few hours later this was confirmed when China set the Yuan fixing some 0.5% lower, the biggest drop since the official August devaluation...

... and unleashed a global selling panic after China's stock market was promptly shut down less than 30 minutes into trading, when it hit the -5% "15 minute" circuit breaker, and immediately thereafter the -7% "all day" circuit breaker. This was the second market halt this week, and means that Chinese stocks have been fully halted on half of all trading days so far in 2016, just as we said was the endgame for this massively rigged market back when we described the Hanergy fiasco.

The following chart courtesy of Holger Zschaepitz summarizes the utterly farcical nature of Chinese markets quite effectively:

At that point the PBOC yuantervened...

... but it already too late: the damage had been done, and all in just 14 minutes of actual trading (net of the 15 minute trading halt).

"It’s a brutal start of the year, there’s just nowhere to hide on the market. This looks like a ripple effect from what happened back in August. It might continue for a few weeks, but given China’s central bank fire power, it shouldn’t last for more than that,” Alexandre Baradez, chief market analyst at IG France, says by phone.

As we also warned yesterday that none of what is going on in China should be a surprise, this is precisely how global markets took it, because what is taking place now is a carbon-copy of the global market response to the August devaluation, one which unleashed a 10% correction in the market, and led to the August 24 ETFlash crash, one which may also recur today judging by where global sotcks and US equity futures are trading right now:

Global stocks and crude oil tumbled on widening concerns about the Chinese economy, as markets' turbulent start to the year intensified. The Stoxx Europe 600 was down 3.4% in midmorning trading, while Brent crude oil was down 1.9% at $33.42 a barrel.

S&P futures are holding near their worst levels of the day (had dropped as much as 55pts or 2.77%) amid global rout in stocks, commodities. In pre-mkt trading, Apple -3.2%, FreeportMcMoRan -5%, Netflix - 3.1%, Twitter -3%, Facebok -3%, Bank of America -2.8%, Wells Fargo -2.7%, Amazon -2.7%, Alphabet -2.6%. WTI down 2.7%, paring earlier loss of as much as 5.5% to $32.10/bbl.

Futures:

S&P Futures 48pts or -2.4% to 1,938
DJIA futures -389pts or 2.31% to 16,449
Nasdaq 100 futures -139pts or 3.1% to 4,308
Commodities:

WTI Crude -2.6% to $33.07/bbl
Brent Crude -2.1% to $33.50/bbl
Gold +0.3% to $1,096/oz
Copper -2.9% to $2.03/lb
Rates/FX:

30-yr -2.26bps to 2.9149%
10-yr -2.64bps to 2.1438%
2-yr -2.40bps to 0.952%
Dollar Index Spot -0.3% to 98.89
Euro/Dollar +0.5% to $1.0837
GBP/Dollar -0.5% to $1.4563
Dollar/Yen +0.7% to 117.63
Other Assets:

MSCI Asia Pacific down 2% to 124
US 10-yr yield down 3bps to 2.14%
Dollar Index down 0.36% to 98.82
WTI Crude futures down 2.6% to $33.09
Brent Futures down 2% to $33.54
Gold spot up 0.2% to $1,096
Silver spot down 0.2% to $13.99
Some other highlights: European shares fell the most since August, crude oil tumbled to a 12-year low, and South Africa’s rand sank to a record; haven assets extended gains, with Treasuries rising for a sixth day and the yen reaching a four-month high. Gold is trading near $1100, while Bitcoin is surging and was last seen at $450 as increasingly more Chinese use the digital currency to transfer their rapidly devaluing money offshore into more stable currencies.

As Bloomberg summarizes, China’s tolerance for a weaker yuan is being seen as evidence policy makers are struggling to revive an economy that’s the world’s biggest user of energy, metals and grains. Those concerns helped wipe $2.5 trillion off the value of global equities in the first six days of this year.

It wasn't just China: as we observed overnight, George Soros warned that markets are facing a crisis, while the World Bank cut its global growth forecasts for this year and next as China’s slowdown prolongs a commodity slump and contractions endure in Brazil and Russia. "China has a major adjustment problem," Soros said Thursday at an economic forum in Colombo, Sri Lanka. “I would say it amounts to a crisis. When I look at the financial markets there is a serious challenge which reminds me of the crisis we had in 2008.”

He could very well be right.

* * *

Looking at regional markets, Asian stocks continued the 2016 stock market rout, which has already seen the S&P 500 record its worse 3-day start since 2008. Nikkei 225 (-2.3%) and the ASX 200 (-1.7%) was led lower by losses in energy after oil prices declined to test the USD 33/bbl level to the downside with Brent at its lowest level since 2004. US equity futures declined with E-mini S&P down over 1% and Dow futures shedding around 150 points, as Chinese markets were halted for trade after the Shanghai Comp and CSI 300 fell by over 7%, with continued aggressive CNY devaluation again acting as a catalyst for the downturn. 10yr JGBs gained as losses in riskier assets supported a flight to quality, while today also saw a relatively well-received 30yr auction where b/c printed much higher than the 12-month average and the tail in price CSRC capped large shareholders' stake reduction to 1% of total outstanding share for 3 months, effective from January 9th and said that major shareholders should disclose share sale plan 15 days before the sale.

The MSCI Asia Pacific Index slipped 2 percent. A gauge of Chinese shares listed in Hong Kong slumped 4.2 percent and the Hang Seng Index dropped 3.1 percent. Benchmark stock indexes in Australia, Japan, Singapore and Thailand all lost more than 2 percent.

“The Chinese yuan is smack bang at the heart of concerns,” Chris Weston, chief market strategist in Melbourne at IG Ltd. “For risk assets to stabilize and sentiment to turn around, we are going to need a stable or even positive move in the Chinese currency. It’s clear that the market is becoming increasingly concerned by the global inflation outlook.”

Top Asian News:

China Regulator Said to Discuss Markets Without Taking Action: Authorities met to discuss market conditions, circuit breakers
China Renews Curb on Major Investors’ Stock Sales to Ease Panic: New rules ensure “orderly and legal” sales by key shareholders
DBS, Standard Chartered Said to Face China Currency Suspensions: Standard Chartered said to have appealed to shorten hiatus
Lack of Options on North Korea Presses China to Shift Policy: Diplomats question China threshold for ending Pyongyang cover
In Europe, equities have undergone another bashing today as global markets react to the continued bearish sentiment in China. With equity trading in China lasting just half an hour today, in a similar fashion to the rest of the week Euro Stoxx is lower by 2.8% on the day, now lower by almost 6.6% on the week The Euro Stoxx 600 has fallen today by the most since the August 24th collapse , after the CNY fix was moved by the most since the same date, and as such safe havens Bunds, JPY and gold have all benefitted today, while in terms of fixed income, short sterling has seen bull flattening extended, with the June contract breaking above Q4 highs. In line with the China concerns, energy and material names are once again under performing, with Brent and WTI both reaching fresh multi year lows in early European trade.

Top European News:

Euro-Area Economic Confidence Increases to Highest Since 2011: Reflects better sentiment in industry, services
Marks & Spencer Chief Bolland Quits as Sales Slump Persists: Retailer’s holiday sales decline more than analysts’ estimates
German Factory Orders Rise in Sign of Solid Domestic Demand: Orders up 1.5% in November vs. estimate for 0.1% increase
Osborne Warns U.K. Economy Faces ‘Dangerous Cocktail’ of Risks: China, commodity prices, Middle East cited as hazards
Euro-zone Dec. Economic Confidence 106.8; est. 106
Euro-zone Dec. Business Climate Indicator 0.41; est. 0.39
Euro-zone Dec. Industrial Confidence -2; est. -2.9
Euro-zone Dec. Consumer Confidence -5.7; est. -5.7
Euro-zone Nov. Unemployment Rate 10.5%; est. 10.7%
Euro-zone Nov. Retail Sales -0.3% m/m; est. 0.2%
Netherlands Dec. EU Harmonized CPI 0.5% y/y; est. 0.5%
Germany Nov. Factory Orders 1.5% m/m; est. 0.1%
In FX, the offshore yuan swung from a 0.3 percent gain to a 0.7 percent loss and back in the space of about 30 minutes in early trading in Hong Kong’s freely traded market. It was subsequently 0.4 percent higher versus the greenback, while the onshore rate weakened 0.5 percent. The People’s Bank of China cut the yuan’s reference rate by 0.5 percent, the most since the week of an Aug. 11 devaluation that roiled global markets.

“We saw aggressive intervention in the offshore yuan market,” said Zhou Hao, an economist at Commerzbank AG in Singapore. "We don’t really understand the rationale behind the market movements in the past few days. Obviously, these movements have reminded us of the market rout last year.”

The central bank is considering new measures to prevent high exchange-rate volatility in the short term, according to people familiar with the matter. China updates its foreign-currency reserve levels Thursday, giving traders an insight into how much its management of the yuan cost in December. The holdings fell by more than $400 billion in the first 11 months of 2015 as the PBOC bought yuan to support the exchange rate.

The yen, which has been the best-performing major currency so far this year amid the demand for safe-haven assets, rose as much as 1 percent to its strongest level since August versus the dollar.

In commodities, the Bloomberg Commodity Index fell 0.8 percent, headed for its lowest close since 1999. Copper dropped 2.7 percent in London and nickel sank 2.9 percent.

West Texas Intermediate crude slid 3.3 percent to $32.86 a barrel, poised for the lowest settlement since February 2004. U.S. gasoline inventories surged the most in 22 years and crude supplies at Cushing, Oklahoma -- the American hub -- climbed to an all-time high, government data showed Wednesday. Concern about a global oversupply saw crude cap its biggest ever two-year tumble in 2015, with OPEC abandoning limits on production and U.S. oil stockpiles remaining about 100 million barrels above their five-year average.

Gold rose as much as 0.8 percent to a two-month high of $1,102.85 an ounce.

“Gold is probably the only one beneficiary among all the commodity markets from all the turmoil in the geopolitical scene,” Bob Takai, chief executive officer and president of Sumitomo Corp. Global Research, said by phone from Tokyo.

The only data of note in the US this afternoon is the latest weekly initial jobless claims reading, while we’re also due to hear from the Fed’s Lacker (at 1.45pm GMT), delivering his economic outlook, as well as Evans (at 7.15pm GMT) who is scheduled to talk on the economy and monetary policy.

Top Global News:

Chinese Stocks Halted as Yuan’s Slump Sends Markets Into Turmoil: Equity rout triggers trading halt in less than 30 minutes, PBOC cuts yuan fixing most since August; Shanghai Fund Manager Dumps All Holdings in ‘Insane’ Market: Shanghai Heqi Tongyi forced to liquidate holdings amid plunge
George Soros Sees Crisis in Global Markets That Echoes 2008: China’s devaluation hurting rest of the world, Soros says
Barclays Said to Plan Closing Most of Asia Cash Equities Unit: About 50% of positions in Asia equities may be eliminated
United CEO Munoz Has Heart Transplant With Return Still Seen: Expected back at work by start of 2Q, company says
Microchip Said to Be Reconsidering Offer to Acquire Atmel: Atmel’s disappointing quarterly sales said to raise concerns
Yahoo Said to Propose Job Cuts as Part of Mayer’s Revival Plan: Announcement expected by earnings report in coming weeks
$30 Oil Just Got Closer as WTI Slides to 12-Year Low on China: WTI trades at lowest since December 2003
Morgan Stanley’s Gorman Extends Tenure, Spurring Fleming’s Exit: In senior-level shakeup, Gorman names Colm Kelleher president
Red Kite Bucks Metals’ Worst Year Since Crisis With Mining Bets: Firm is committed to physical metals fund after ‘tough year’
U.S. to Deepen Probe Into BofA’s Client Protection Rules: WSJ: Scrutiny on certain dividend-tax trades, whether bank broke rules designed to safeguard client accounts
‘Star Wars’ Shoots Past ‘Avatar’ to Break U.S. Box Office Record
Bulletin Headline Summary from Bloomberg and RanSquawk:

Another day of turmoil in China as more circuit breakers are triggered in the domestic markets and more intervention is required in the CNY
European equities have undergone another bashing today with the Euro Stoxx 600 posting the largest intraday decline since the August 24th collapse
Looking ahead, today's highlights include, US Initial and continuing Jobless Claims and comments from Fed's Lacker and Evans
Treasuries advanced for a sixth day after a plunge in Chinese stocks halted trading for a second time this week and as oil fell to a 12-year low, WTI nearing $30/bbl.
The worst start for Chinese markets in two decades showed no signs of letting up after PBOC cut its yuan reference rate by the most since August, sparking a selloff in stocks that forced the $6.6t market to shut early
“This is insane. We were forced to liquidate all our holdings this morning,” says Chen Gang, CIO at Shanghai Heqi Tongyi Asset Management Co., which manages about 300m yuan
China’s FX reserves tumbled by a record $108b in December as the PBOC sold USD to stem a slide in yuan. That was about four times greater than analysts predicted in a Bloomberg survey, and reduced the stockpile to the lowest level in three years
The manager of a Chinese hedge fund that returned a surprising 86 percent during last year’s stock rout will sell all its stock holdings as renewed fears tanked China’s markets again
French police confirm report of gunshots fired outside a police station in the 18th arrondissement, or district, of Paris; I-Tele reports police shot an attacker who entered the station with a knife
DBS Group Holdings Ltd. and Standard Chartered Plc are among banks suspended from some forex business in China, according to people with knowledge of the matter
Anglo American Plc led a slump in mining stocks to the lowest in more than a decade as market turmoil in China, the biggest consumer of metals, ignites a vicious spiral of tumbling equities and collapsing commodity prices around the world
Iran accused Saudi Arabia on Thursday of an aerial attack on its embassy in Sana, the capital of Yemen, in a potential escalation of a sectarian and geopolitical conflict that has put the region on edge, NYT reports
South Korea will resume the propaganda broadcasts that previously led the Kim Jong Un regime to threaten war, in order to punish North Korea for conducting a fourth nuclear test
The latest outbreak of bubonic plague on the Indian Ocean island of Madagascar has killed 63 people since August, the Health Ministry said
$8.25b IG priced yesterday, no HY. BofAML Corporate Master Index OAS +1bp to +174, 2015 range 180/129. High Yield Master II OAS widens 8bp to +711; 2015 range 733/438
Sovereign bond yields mixed. Asian and European stocks plunge, U.S. equity-index futures slide, with S&P -2.4%. Crude oil and copper lower, gold gains
US Event Calendar

7:30am: Challenger Job Cuts y/y, Dec. (prior -13.9%)
8:30am: Initial Jobless Claims, Jan. 2, est. 275k (prior 287k)
Continuing Claims, Dec. 26, est. 2.2m (prior 2.198m)
9:45am: Bloomberg Consumer Comfort, Jan,. 3 (prior 43.6)
Central Banks

8:10am: Bank of Canada’s Poloz speaks in Ottawa
8:45am: Fed’s Lacker speaks in Raleigh, N.C.
2:15pm: Fed’s Evans speaks in Madison, Wis.
We concludes as is customary with Jim Reid's overnight event wrap

The holiday period is starting to feel like a bit of a distant memory. There’s a huge sense of unease in markets at the moment and a big part of that are the concerns with China which dominated much of yesterday’s risk-off tone and, given the Asia session overnight, look set to dictate markets today. From the opening bell this morning the CSI 300 took 12 minutes to tumble to -5% and trigger a 15-minute trading halt. After resuming, the index then took 2 minutes to hit -7% for the day, breaching the second threshold of the circuit breaker and resulting in Chinese equity markets shutting early for the second time this week. So markets were open for just 29 minutes with a total trading time of 14 minutes. The Shanghai Comp closed -7.32% and Shenzhen -8.34% with the latter down over -15% YTD already. Those huge moves have dragged the rest of Asia lower. The Nikkei (-1.96%), Hang Seng (-2.39%), Kospi (-0.77%) and ASX (-1.93%) are all in the red. US equity futures have tumbled over 1% and Oil is testing the $33 mark (down -2%) after falling nearly 6% yesterday. Asia and Australia iTraxx indices are 3 to 4bps wider.

A lot of the blame is being put again on the currency after the PBoC set the Yuan fix 0.51% weaker today, the eighth consecutive weakening but this time the largest since August. That’s caused plenty of volatility in the currency this morning. The onshore Yuan is currently 0.6% weaker as we type while the offshore Yuan is actually +0.2% firmer although at one stage traded nearly as much as 1% weaker. The moves have however caused a broad sell-off across most EM currencies with China’s December FX reserves data due out at any time now and set be very closely watched. As we type headlines are also out suggesting that China’s securities regulator is to cap the size of stakes that major investors can sell at 1% of a company’s shares, effective this weekend, in a bid to surely help ease some of the panic ahead of the open tomorrow.

Today’s moves so far come after another tough session for risk assets yesterday, while there was a reasonable amount of newsflow to get through too. The moves for Oil yesterday saw WTI close at the lowest since December 2008 and Brent at the lowest price since June 2004, while Gasoline closed -7.55% and Natural Gas -2.49% following the latest batch of bearish gasoline inventory data. Meanwhile, the FOMC minutes were probably a touch more dovish than expected (more shortly), although the US dataflow was actually relatively supportive with a much better than expected ADP print (257k vs. 198k expected) raising hopes for Friday’s payrolls, while the ISM non-manufacturing printed at 55.3 which was below expectations (56.0) and down versus November (55.9) but all things considered still relatively resilient in light of the manufacturing data earlier in the week. If this wasn’t enough, we then saw the World Bank weigh in after the closing bell, downgrading their global growth forecasts for 2016.

All told the S&P 500 closed yesterday down -1.31%, meaning the index is down -2.63% to start the year which is only just shy of the -2.73% return for the first three trading days of 2015 which was the worst start to a year since 2008. It was a similar performance for European stocks yesterday where the Stoxx 600 closed down -1.26%, taking its YTD loss pass the 3% mark already. Yields continue to dip lower in most core government bond markets. 10y Bund yields were down nearly 4bps yesterday to settle at 0.502% and nearing the early December levels. 10y Treasury yields finished down nearly 7bps meanwhile at 2.168% and a two-week low.

Onto the Fed. The main point of note in yesterday’s FOMC minutes were the comments from officials suggesting that last month’s decision to commence liftoff was a ‘close call’, reflecting concerns around the outlook for inflation in particular. The text revealed that ‘for some members, the risks attending their inflation forecasts remained considerable’ and that ‘among those risks was the possibility that additional downward shocks to prices of oil and other commodities or a sustained rise in the exchange value of the dollar could delay or diminish the expected upturn in inflation’. Aside from those comments, in truth there was little else of note from the minutes and instead the text was pretty consistent with the post-meeting statement. On timing of future moves, there was more emphasis on the need for ‘gradual’ adjustments in the fed funds rate, while also emphasizing the need to adjust policy as economic conditions evolve. There was also reference to the stress in US HY around the timing of last month’s meeting. While participants didn’t downplay the moves, there appeared to be little concern from officials about the wider implications for now however.

Back to the rest of the US data yesterday. As well as the ADP and ISM numbers, the final services PMI for December was revised up 0.6pts at the final count to 54.3. That helped to take the composite up to 54.0 at the final read from 53.5 in the earlier flash. Meanwhile, the November trade balance reading revealed a shrinking of the deficit to $42.4bn (vs. $44bn expected) from $44.6bn reflecting a drop in imports. Factory orders data offered few surprises after coming in at -0.2% mom in November as expected, while there was no change to the final revision for durable goods in the same month at 0.0% mom. Core capex orders was revised up one-tenth to -0.3% mom. Having highlighted the recent downward revision, yesterday’s narrowing of the trade deficit and resultant contribution from net exports has seen the Atlanta Fed now upgrade their Q4 GDP forecast to 1.0% from 0.7% a few days ago.

Meanwhile, the Fed Vice-Chair Fischer was vocal again yesterday. Following on from San Francisco Fed President Williams’ comments that he see’s 3 to 5 rate hikes this year, Fischer said that in his view four rate hikes ‘are in the ballpark’, although at the same time highlighted the concerns emanating out of China saying that there ‘are levels of uncertainty and they’ve risen a bit now’.

Over in Europe yesterday the final revisions to the December PMI numbers were generally encouraging. The final Euro area composite PMI was revised up 0.3pts to 54.3, with the services component up the same amount to 54.2. That took the composite back to its cyclical high seen in August. By country, Germany saw an upward revision to its already strong flash reading, by +0.6pts to 55.5. The print for Italy was also encouraging having risen +1.7pts to 56.0. This offset a bit of weakness in the final revision for France (-0.2pts to 50.1) while the reading out of Spain also fell last month (-1.6pts to 55.1). Our European economics team confirmed that yesterday’s PMI’s point to GDP growth of +0.5% qoq in Q4, which is slightly above their +0.4% expectation and suggestive that the economy should continue to expand at a solid rate in the near term, with external headwinds (China and the US) the main risks.

Before we take a look at today’s calendar, just quickly highlighting those World Bank growth forecast changes. 2016 global growth has now been downgraded to 2.9% from the earlier 3.3% forecast back in June. This reflected concerns of a slowdown for emerging markets, with the Bank citing concerns around China and also the recessions in Brazil and Russia. It was noted that the Bank cut its outlook for China growth this year to 6.7% from the earlier 7% previously, while a 6.5% forecast was made for 2017. That forecast for this year is in-line with the views of our Chief China Economist.

It’s set to be a slightly quieter day ahead for data with markets probably more focused on events in China. In Europe this morning we’ve got factory orders and retail sales numbers out of Germany, along with the latest Euro area confidence indicators as well as the November unemployment print and retail sales data for the region. The only data of note in the US this afternoon is the latest weekly initial jobless claims reading, while we’re also due to hear from the Fed’s Lacker (at 1.45pm GMT), delivering his economic outlook, as well as Evans (at 7.15pm GMT) who is scheduled to talk on the economy and monetary policy
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/08/16 08:16 PM

I do recall, that there was some discussion, and that more than one had pointed out, the 2520 years was not only an invalid speculation, but it did not coincide with 2015.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/08/16 08:23 PM

Maybe see post #178939 regarding Babylon.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/10/16 04:21 PM

I appreciate you pointing out these topics and will comment there if I can get a link to these.

Originally Posted By: kland
Maybe see post #178939 regarding Babylon.

I would appreciate a link to this post.

Originally Posted By: kland
I do recall, that there was some discussion, and that more than one had pointed out, the 2520 years was not only an invalid speculation, but it did not coincide with 2015.

It would be great to have a link of that discussion. You probably know there is a SDA group that focus on the 2520 years timeline. I have known a few when I was studying on Adventist Online. They claim that our Church did have the 2520 years prophecy on our timeline charts in our earliest days. I do know the Millerite movement had 2520 in their charts. But I haven't investigated in the validity if our Church in its early beginning upheld this.

However I do know there are scriptural validity of this 7 times prophecy date despite our Church for some reason have not upheld this. Then there is this undeniable 2520 years correlative application the Lord has put in these events relating to Israel captivity and Jerusalem destruction as I have shown in Post#161945

We know it is the Lord that coordinates events (Ep 1:11) and historical events are fulfillment of prophecies. To me these 5 occurrences in historical events is the strongest argument that there are such a 7 times (2520 years) timeline. One occurrence, could be taken as coincidental but 5 occurrences.... to me it is the sure hand of the Lord at play behind these events.

-----An extraction of that post----------------------------


745 BC……..........................................................................................1776
..[---------------------------------------------2520---------------------------------------------------]
Deportation of Israel Begins...........................................USA Declaration of Independance

721 BC................................................................................................1801
..[--------------------------------------------2520----------------------------------------------------]
Samaria(Israel Capital)Destroy...........................................Washington DC(US Capital) Build

604 BC..............................................................................................1917
..[--------------------------------------------2520----------------------------------------------------]
Jerusalem Conquered by Babylon................................................Jerusalem freed by Allenby

607 BC..............................................................................................1914
..[-------------------------------------------2520-----------------------------------------------------]
Babylon Becomes an Empire..............................Federal Reserve Act(Mystery Babylon) Signed

I haven’t posted any documents about the Federal Reserve Act much, but in case you didn’t know, they are an own corporation by Foreign entities mainly from England. They print money out of thin air and charge us interest to indebt the population and the whole world. It is a debt and unsustainable system to enslave the people.

Now coming back to these dates above, here’s a quote to explain the 100 years extension of the 2520 years from Stephen Jones a non-denominationalist.

Quote:
This “seven times” of dominion extended from 607 B.C. to 1914 A.D. But instead of ending, as one would normally expect, we saw the establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank, which extended our captivity for another century to the present time. The Federal Reserve Act was passed on December 23, 1913, and its hundredth anniversary is due in about two weeks on December 23, 2013.

The reason for the “extension of life,” prophesied in Daniel 7:12, is because Judah and Jerusalem were independent of beast rule from 163 to 63 B.C. after Antiochus Epiphanes desecrated the temple. The Judeans threw off the rule of Syria (part of the Grecian beast) in 163 B.C. and remained independent until Rome took Jerusalem in 63 B.C. Thus, the 2,520-year contract was suspended for a century, on account of Antiochus’ desecration, and this time had to be added at the end from 1913/14 to 2013/14.


607 BC................................................................................1914
..[-----------------------------------------2520----------------------------------------]
Babylon Becomes an Empire.............................Fed.Res.Act(Myst.Babylon)Signed 12/23/1913
...........................163 BC........23BC......................................1914..........2014
.............................[-----100------]...........................................[-----100------]
.............Jerusalem indep.100yrs from Beast ruling................100 yrs ext.for Myst.Bab. reign

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It appears that we are now at the end of this time period. Of course, keep in mind that Jerusalem was originally captured by Babylon in 604 B.C., which was three years after Babylon became an empire in 607. If we date things from 604 B.C., then the 2,520 year contract should have ended in 1916/1917, and the added century would take us to 2016/2017. So in the big picture, we will probably see some sort of 3-year transition in the fall of Babylon.”

607-604..............................................................1914-1917.................2014-2017
.....[------------------------------------ 2520 ----------------------------][----------- 100 ext. -----------]
3yrs(Jerus.Conquer. - Bab.became Emp.)..............3yrs(Myst.Bab.beg.destroy - tot.destruc.)
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/11/16 07:41 PM

http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forum...amp;#Post178939
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/14/16 03:47 PM

My comment: Looks like we Canadians are now paying way more for food as the US Dollar plunges. The main reason for this rise is we Canadian imports 80% of our food from the US. At the link you can see many(20+) tweets from across the country showing what hi-prices they are now paying. And this is just the beginning. Those that are poor, might consider planting a garden in 2016, so to survive this time.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-13/canadians-panic-food-prices-soar-collapsing-currency

Jan 13th 2016

Canadians Panic As Food Prices Soar On Collapsing Currency

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It was just yesterday when we documented the continuing slide in the loonie, which is suffering mightily in the face of oil’s inexorable decline.

As regular readers are no doubt acutely aware, Canada is struggling through a dramatic economic adjustment, especially in Alberta, the heart of the country’s oil patch. Amid the ongoing crude carnage the province has seen soaring property crime, rising food bank usage and, sadly, elevated suicide rates, as Albertans struggle to comprehend how things up north could have gone south (so to speak) so quickly.

The plunging loonie “can only serve to worsen the death of the 'Canadian Dream'" we said on Tuesday.

No "Jack Nasty" it's not The Great Depression, but as we highlighted three weeks ago, it is Canada's depression and it's likely to get worse before it gets better. "Last year, fruits and veggies jumped in price between 9.1 and 10.1 per cent, according to an annual report by the Food Institute at the University of Guelph," CBC said on Tuesday. "The study predicts these foods will continue to increase above inflation this year, by up to 4.5 per cent for some items."

If you thought we were being hyperbolic when we suggested that if oil prices don't rise soon, Canadians may well eat themselves to death, consider the following from Diana Bronson, the executive director of Food Secure Canada:

"Lower- and middle-class people — many who can't find a job that will pay them enough to ensure that they can afford a healthy diet for their families" — also feel the pinch of rising food prices"

"The wrong kind of food is cheap, and the right kind of food is still expensive."
In other words, some now fear that the hardest hit parts of the country may experience a spike in obesity rates as Canadians resort to cheap, unhealthy foods. As we put it, "in Alberta it's 'feast or famine' in the most literal sense of the phrase as those who can still afford to buy food will drown their sorrows in cheap lunch meat and off-brand ice cream while the most hard hit members of society are forced to tap increasingly overwhelmed food banks."

And the rub is that there's really nothing anyone can do about it.

Were the Bank of Canada to adopt pro-cyclical measures to shore up the loonie, they would risk choking off economic growth just as the crude downturn takes a giant bite out of the economy - no food pun intended.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/19/16 05:27 PM

Freeze on Global Shipping

My comment : The past couple of weeks, commerce between Europe and North America appears to have been halted.

"Commerce between Europe and North America has literally come to a halt. For the first time in known history, not one cargo ship is in-transit in the North Atlantic between Europe and North America. All of them (hundreds) are either anchored offshore or in-port. NOTHING is moving.

This has never happened before. It is a horrific economic sign; proof that commerce is literally stopped.
" source link.

This was also observe by the plunge of the Dry Baltic Index that shows the movement of raw material at sea. There was much speculation of what was the cause of this.

I'm sure the market plunge is one of the reason. But there's other reasons that was reported :

a) “Perhaps the most dramatic, and under-reported, new aspect of this ongoing struggle has been the freeze on global shipping. To confirm reports on the internet of a shipping freeze, this writer called NYK lines, a major international shipping firm, and was told “we cannot speak for the whole world but, as far as our company is concerned, with current shipping prices we will lose money every time we send a ship so we have stopped.” Link source : Benjamin Fulford Jan 19th geopolitic report

b) It appears that China has tighten the economic belt by a few knotch starting 2016 by setting tigher rules to Chinese business so to avoid paying in US Dollars. This seems to be the case as observe with companies currently having difficulties being paid as reported by Zerohedge article “China Banks Seem To Be Doing Whatever They Can To Avoid Paying Anyone In Dollars". Source link : ZH01-17

c) “One source with connections to mainland Chinese sources has verified this claim that China has given an ultimatum that there will be a big reduction in their cargo ships unloading any products until the USG begins to honor the Secret Reset Agreement they entered into in 2013 during G-20 meetings. … For the G-20 nations, especially the USA to honor this Secret Reset Agreement made in 2013 the Khazarian Mafia (KM) must be removed from its position controlling the World Central Banking. It also apparently requires the acceptance of the Chinese Renminbi based on Gold and Silver as a part of an international basket of currencies and the removal of the US Petro Dollar as the World’s Reserve Currency.” Link source : Preston James VT

So the 2nd requirements of the Secret Reset Agreement underlined above to "the removal of the US Petro Dollar as the World's Reserve Currency" would make sense of what has been observe happening in reason b). China is probably moving to bring the Yuan as the new World's Reserve Currency in 2016.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/21/16 04:10 PM

My comment : Currently the yearly World Economic Forum is held in Davos Switzerland from Jan 20-23 where William White, chairmen of the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development(OECD), is suggesting a Jubilee.

Ex-chief economist for the BIS suggests a Jubilee

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...ests-a-jubilee/

Jan 20, 2016

Quote:

Here is an interesting article quoting a high-ranking economist, William White, the Swiss-based chairman of the OECD's review committee and former chief economist of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS).

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/finan...nk-veteran.html

Quote:
The global financial system has become dangerously unstable and faces an avalanche of bankruptcies that will test social and political stability, a leading monetary theorist has warned.

"The situation is worse than it was in 2007….

"Debts have continued to build up over the last eight years and they have reached such levels in every part of the world that they have become a potent cause for mischief," he said.

"It will become obvious in the next recession that many of these debts will never be serviced or repaid, and this will be uncomfortable for a lot of people who think they own assets that are worth something," he told The Telegraph on the eve of the World Economic Forum in Davos.

"The only question is whether we are able to look reality in the eye and face what is coming in an orderly fashion, or whether it will be disorderly. Debt jubilees have been going on for 5,000 years, as far back as the Sumerians."…

Mr White said Europe's creditors are likely to face some of the biggest haircuts. European banks have already admitted to $1 trillion of non-performing loans: they are heavily exposed to emerging markets and are almost certainly rolling over further bad debts that have never been disclosed….

I’m not sure that the Sumerians practiced debt jubilees, but I find it interesting that the word “jubilee” is now becoming part of economists’ jargon. Just ten years ago, no one ever used the word in public.


The notion of a Jubilee slowly started to hit the media in the world with Iceland when they kicked out of their country the banksters, removed the corrupt government by replacing the seats with common citizens, and implementing a debt forgiveness(Jubilee type) to those that had loans from the Banksters. Now, any banker that are caught in some type of fraud are jailed in that country. Just recently, they have jailed their 26th bankster. Since these changes, Iceland's economy has been flourishing.

I think that Iceland is a sign of what is coming in the rest of the world soon. I think that William White suggestion is in the Lord's will and plan with the current fall of the corrupt Babylonian debt system.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/21/16 05:28 PM

This is a follow up of the 4 Supreme Court Judge Unites to Ignite a $279 Trillion Lien.

As expected, there were no response by mid-Jan from the Bankster and the illegal USA government of the Lien put on them. I have read Anna Von Reitz recent comments about it. There's so much to say that it is better for those interested in this to just go read these documents at her website at annavonreitz.com.

The first article I would recommend reading is the last exchange between Anna and Karen Hudes. Karen Hudes is the World Banks whistleblower that is one of the World Bank's lawyer. I have brought 3 posts of her work in this discussion in trying to bring a reform in the World Banks. I do believe her intention were genuine and she did bring a lot of information out in the public. However, I think her goal, of reforming Mystery Babylon's system, is not in line with the Lord's plan.

I found the dialog between Anna and Karen Hudes quite impressively informative; because Karen Hudes represents the World Banks -- thus what Anna is saying to Karen is said to the entity she represents and what Karen is saying is the voice of the supposively reformed world banks. I recommend reading their last exchange in round 6.

I also recommend reading "A Reply from Judge Anna About the National Debt, the National Credit, and the Pope's Role" http://annavonreitz.com/nationaldebt.pdf In this article she says the Pope [his secular side in handling property titles and etc...] have admitted their wrongs and are doing what is necessary to correct it. Also in this article Anna is commenting further on the discussion with Karen Hudes by which she's really addressing the World Banks.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/23/16 04:52 PM

Banking crisis in Italy

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/01-2016/banking-crisis-in-italy/

By Stephen Jones

Jan 22, 2016

Quote:
Here is a report on the banking crisis in Italy...

http://etfdailynews.com/2016/01/21/a-run...tocks-collapse/
Quote:

“The Italian financial meltdown that we have been waiting for has finally arrived. For quite a long time I have been warning my readers to watch Italy, and now people are starting to understand why.

“Italian banking stocks continued their collapse for a fifth consecutive day on Wednesday, and nervous Italians are beginning to quietly pull large amounts of money out of the banks.

“In particular, Monte dei Paschi is a complete and utter basket case at this point.

“A staggering one-third of their loans are “non-performing”, and the stock price has fallen a staggering 57 percent since 2016 began.

“Monte dei Paschi is going to need a major bailout, and the same thing could be said about almost all of the largest Italian banks.”


The article goes on to quote The Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters...tock-sinks.html

It tells us that people are beginning to withdraw their money from Monte Paschi.
Quote:

“MILAN, Jan 20 (Reuters) - Some Monte dei Paschi customers have been pulling savings out of the Italian bank, its chief executive said on Wednesday, as it faces a crisis over a mountain of bad loans that has wiped nearly 60 percent off its market value this year….

“The Tuscan-based bank's stock, which had sunk 15 percent on Monday and 14 percent on Tuesday, was suspended from trading several times on Wednesday before closing down 22.2 percent. Fears of contagion from Monte dei Paschi's crisis helped drag down other Italian banking stocks, with Carige and Banco Popolare shedding 18 and 11 percent respectively.”


The Telegraph asks, “Is Italy the next Greece?”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsb...ext-Greece.html
Quote:

“Italian banking stocks crashed again on Wednesday, continuing a month of poor performance and raising questions over the sustainability of the industry in its current structure – and even if it could end up in the same boat as Greece’s banking sector….

“A Bloomberg analysis puts Monte dei Paschi’s non-performing loans at almost one-third of its asset book, followed by Banca Carige at 27.4pc and Banco Popolare at 26.2pc, all cripplingly high levels.

“That indicates that despite years of support from central banks and a series of efforts to make banks set aside provisions to cover bad loans, Italy’s banks have failed to clean up their books.”


The main difference between Greece and Italy is that Greece has the 47th largest economy, while Italy has the 8th largest in the world. If the collapse of Greece nearly wrecked the European economy, what would happen if the banks in Italy failed? How long can banks survive when a quarter to one third of their loans are “non-performing” (i.e., in default)?

This news is not really new, of course. There have been many articles posted about the shaky banks in Spain and Italy even before the Greek crisis. It takes a long decline before such banks are either bailed out or allowed to collapse. Europeans especially need to be alert to the Italian bank situation, because any collapse in Italy will affect Europe first. But if it gets out of hand, the contagion could spread to the whole world.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/26/16 03:10 AM

My comment: Many are waiting for China to declare a Gold based Yuan. This article is saying that this event will come in April 2016 that will probably give the final blow to the US Petrodollar.

China to Start Yuan-Based Gold Price Fix in April: Game Changer?


http://goldstockbull.com/articles/gold-price-discovery-moving-to-china-in-april/

Jan 5th 2016

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China has been quietly accumulating a significant amount of gold bullion in recent years. They are now the top producer and top consumer of gold in the world. They are believed to keep all of their domestic production, plus import significant amounts from other nations. In addition, they have been buying up gold mines around the globe at steep discounts and bringing home gold they had stored in London, New York and Switzerland.

After accumulating all of this gold, along with their close ally Russia, many believe they will eventually break the metal free from the price manipulation undertaken by the banks/governments in the United States and United Kingdom. Once price discovery moves from West to East, they will allow the price to float to free-market levels and the value of all the gold they have been accumulating will skyrocket.

Removing the gold price suppression will be accompanied by wholesale dumping of U.S. treasury bonds and test the world’s faith in the US dollar debt-based fiat currency system. This will give China, Russia and others a greater influence in world financial markets and better stability in their currencies. It may give them a considerable strategic advantage over the United States, a nation that many believe no longer has the gold that they claim. Indeed, with a lack of a comprehensive audit and unwillingness of officials to allow one, many believe the gold is no longer in Fort Knox.

Now we move to the really interesting part of this story. Not only has China been accumulating huge amounts of gold (on and off record), but they also launched their own international gold trading platform on the SGE. It has become the largest physical gold exchange in the world, with an estimated 52 times more physical gold withdrawals versus the predominantly paper exchange of the COMEX.

Fast forward to the first week of 2016 and China is warning foreign banks that they must participate in Yuan-based gold price fixing or lose their Chinese gold import rights. This first-ever Chinese benchmark is set to launch in April of this year and could be a game-changer for gold prices moving forward.

Reuters reported today that:

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China has warned foreign banks it could curb their operations in the world’s biggest bullion market if they refuse to participate in the planned launch of a yuan-denominated benchmark price for the metal, sources said.

The world’s top producer and consumer of gold has been pushing to be a price-setter for bullion as part of a broader drive to boost its influence on global markets.

Derived from a contract to be traded on the state-run Shanghai Gold Exchange, the Chinese benchmark is set to launch in April, potentially denting the relevance of the current global standard, the U.S. dollar-denominated London price.

In a trial run for the fix in April 2015, some foreign banks participated along with many major Chinese banks. Traders at those banks said earlier that while they were interested in the benchmarking process, their legal and compliance teams may be reluctant.


Perhaps a little sensationalized, but Jim Willie recently commented:

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The Gold market cannot be fixed by paper gold on a repeated basis, surely not in perpuity. When the Shanghai shock comes, all the Paper Gold structures will fall, all the FOREX derivatives will collapse, all the control rooms will go into panic mode.

The Shanghai shock is not likely to materialize all at once and cause an immediate collapse of the dollar, the COMEX or our fiat monetary system. However, it is another nail in the proverbial coffin and significantly increases the odds of more honest price discovery in precious metals as it moves from West to East.

The red line in the chart below shows Asian gold reserves as a percentage of total gold reserves. The percentage has been rising steadily for decades, but the pace of the increase has picked up significantly since the 2008/09 financial crisis.



If you believe that the gold price has been suppressed in order to maintain faith in fiat money and allow governments to continue deficit spending to secure their power, it is logical to conclude that gold prices may rise sharply as the disconnect between paper and physical pricing intensifies. And it would make sense for China, Russia and other BRICS nations to push for such a transition, as it would diminish the dominance of the United States in global trade and finance, leveling the playing field.

gold west to east

In any event, it will be an interesting development to watch during 2016. I believe it could be another catalyst in a long list that could cause a spike in gold and silver prices.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/26/16 05:38 PM

Other Important "Collapsing" News Events : Venezuela, France, and Puerto Rico

January 14th : Venezuela declared an economic emergency because of the dramatic drop in the price of oil.

http://www.france24.com/en/20160116-venezuela-economic-emergency-currency-woes-opposition-oil

Jan 18th : France declared an “economic and social emergency” on Monday because of the bank crisis.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/18/the-assoc...-emergency.html

Jan 17th : Jack Lew, the Secretary of the US Treasury, sent a letter to the House Speaker Paul Ryan, entitle “Puerto Rico is in the midst of an economic collapse,” and says it “is already in default.”

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/jack-lew-puerto-rico-is-in-economic.html

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“Puerto Rico is already in default. It is shifting funds from one creditor to pay another and has
stopped payment altogether on several of its debts. As predicted, creditors are filing lawsuits….

“A large debt payment of $400 million is due on May 1, and a broader set of payments are due at the end of June.

“Puerto Rico has been shut out of the municipal bond market for more than two years and ran out of the funding sources traditionally used to finance government operations more than six months ago. In response to the crisis...

“The unemployment rate, at over 12 percent, is more than double the U.S. average.

“Nearly 10 percent of the population has left since 2006. In the first six months of 2015, each
week nearly 3,000 Puerto Ricans left the Island in search of better opportunities on the mainland.”


Here's Stephen Jones comment about Puerto Rico:

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"I noticed that President Obama did not mention Puerto Rico in his State of the Union address. But Puerto Rico is important, because it is the headquarters of the IRS. The IRS was never authorized by Congress to operate as a government agency, so it could not be headquartered in one of the states. Puerto Rico is a federal territory, like Washington D.C. itself. All these federal territories, from a legal perspective, form a separate national corporation that has taken control of the 50 states in a secret coup many years ago.

Over the last few years, many states and individuals have begun to show signs of revolt and even secession. This time they are not wanting to secede from the united States, but from the corporate government in Washington D.C. Anger in many places is reaching new levels not seen since the American Civil War. A major crisis is approaching, and I suspect that if the corporate government does not capitulate soon, they will unleash some tribulation on the people.

One way or another, though, Mystery Babylon, with its three heads in three city-states (Vatican, City of London, and Washington D.C.) cannot win this battle. Prophecy is against them... Let us pray that this transfer of authority will not result in a lot of destruction."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/28/16 07:40 PM

My comment: This article is a geopolitical view and comment by Pepe Escobar of China's recent visit to the Middle East mainly Saudi Arabia and Iran. Before going into Pepe's article, let's look at some background that will help us understand the tension in the Middle East and the ISIS connection.


Understanding The Sunni and Shia Nation Conflict

The Middle East countries are divided by two main sub-Muslim religion : Sunni and Shia. This split in the Muslim faith happened at the death of their prophet Muhammad in 632. Amongs the 1.6 billions muslims in the world, 80% are Sunni. Saudi Arabia is 90% Sunni while Iran is 95% Shia. (see map of Middle East of % Sunni vs. Shia). So Iran is the biggest Shia nation while Saudi Arabia is the biggest Sunni nation. So these two have been long time enemies. However, since Shia are a minority, Iran have kept their cool in confrontation.


The Saudi Arabia, the Sunni-Wahhabist, and the ISIS Connection

This connection explains the Saudi Arabia and ISIS similar way of thinking and their great intolerance towards others resulting in executing their infideles or enemies by chopping off their heads or slicing their throats. Basically Saudi Arabia and ISIS have the same strick fundamentalist teachings called wahhabism. This is a off-shoot Sunni movement that began in the 1700s by which follow the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab. Not all Sunni follow the teachings of Wahhabism. Saudi Arabia promotes Wahhabism throughout their country and other temples throughout the world by which is how they succeed to recruits more ISIS militants throughout the world.

The United States is aware of this as shown in the US Senate interrogation. This 6 min Youtube video will give you a very good picture of what the US is aware and this Wahhabism connection between Saudi Arabia and ISIS.



Now we have some background of who is who in this current political war, this will help assimilate the following article written by Pepe Escobar who comments about China's recent visit to Saudi Arabia and Iran and what is China's solution to these two long-time enemies.


The new Iran factor

Jan 22, 2016

by Stephen Jones

This is one of the best geopolitical articles that I have ever read, telling us the current world situation, especially as it relates to Iran, China, and Saudi Arabia.

Now that US sanctions were lifted from Iran on January 16, Iran is back as a factor in world markets, especially in the energy market (oil sales). Given the fact that more oil is already being sold than the markets can use, the addition of Iranian oil (in increasing amounts each month) is going to result in mega-changes among the nations.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44005.htm
(written by Pepe Escobar)

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“But the key question is actually how, at what pace, and with what partners Tehran plans to rejoin global markets.”


Tehran may have resolved its nuclear differences with the US government, but this does not mean that the two are best friends. In fact, with the sudden imposition of more silly sanctions against Iran, the US has simply driven Iran’s business into the hands of Europe and China. The first order of business is for Iran to buy 114 airbus passenger jets to replace its aging fleet. Passenger jets are not on the sanctions list any more, but Boeing probably could have picked up a lot more business.

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“So forget about Iran as a US partner. That won’t happen. In the West, the privileged partner will be the EU, especially concerning investment in energy and in the sprawling, young, educated, virtually “virgin” Iranian market. And then, there’s Eurasia integration.”


Likewise, the executives for Shel Oil (The Netherlands) and Total (Venezuela) are in Tehran now for talks. Sorry about that, Exxon-Mobil. The President’s policy is costing you billions, too.

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“The fact is Iran is already selling more oil as we speak. Over 1,000 lines of credit have been opened for banks, according to President Hassan Rouhani. Energy-hungry Europeans are predictably going nuts. Even with non-denial denials, the fact is Shell executives, for instance, are already in Tehran, talking about Iran’s “energy potential” and solidifying their positioning as Iran’s “prime partner” in energy. Meanwhile, Iran’s oil tankers are already sailing under Lloyd’s insurance.”


I have written much about the kings of the east (Revelation 16:12) being China and Russia. But the original king of the east who led the charge against Babylon was King Cyrus of Persia. Persia is old Iran. I have understood since the 1980’s that Iran would have a hand in the downfall of Mystery Babylon at some point in the future. In fact, I explained this to an Iranian friend back in 1991. (I’ve had a standing invitation to visit Iran since then.)

In fact, back in the 1980’s and early 1990’s, I believed that Iran would be the sole player in that regard. But then came the rise of China and Russia, and I realized that there was a bigger game being played here. Now, as of January 16, 2016, we are seeing the integration of the two views of prophecy. Yes, it is still Russia and China who are role-playing the parts that Cyrus and Darius first played many years ago, but now Iran has stepped into the role as a secondary actor on the stage of world history.

This week, with China’s president being the first head of state to visit Iran since the lifting of US sanctions, we can really begin to connect the dots that outline the fall of Babylon.

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“And that brings us back once again to the ultimate confrontation; the vicious proxy war between Tehran and the (collapsing) House of Saud on multiple theaters, from “Syraq”, Bahrain and Yemen to the oil market.

“Everything is irreconcilable here. Wahhabism (spawning Salafi-jihadism) against Shi’ism. A tribal, dynastic, corrupt monarchy against a republic born out of a popular revolution. The weaponized American umbrella over the Persian Gulf against activist anti-imperialism.

“Xi Jinping’s Middle East trip cannot possibly work as a messianic cure. The strategic relationship that matters is Beijing-Tehran – from the energy sphere to Eurasia integration via One Belt, One Road. But Beijing also needs Saudi oil.

“Warrior prince Mohammed bin Sultan – who’s actually running the show in Riyadh - is thinking of selling Aramco. Why not offer it to Beijing? But be prepared to be paid in yuan. And all the oil goes to China. Talk about a New Silk Road offer one can’t refuse.”


Aramco, Saudi-owned, is the biggest oil company in the world. It is multiple times larger than Exxon-Mobil, which in itself is huge. Will the Saudis sell Aramco to raise cash to save its own economy? It’s an interesting speculation.

The New Silk Road (trade route) is perhaps the strategic key to alliances and finances in the 21st century. The original Silk Road in the 1400’s was the overland trade route connecting Europe to China, being named for the prized silk that the traders brought back from China. But it was slow by caravan and also dangerous. Finding a better route was one of the main motives of the early European explorers. They thought they could get to India or China by going west across the ocean. The problem was that they ran into the Americas, only to find another ocean stood between them and China.

Yet they did find that they could go around South Africa. It was not an easy trip, and it was long, but yet the explorers managed to connect Europe with India and the Spice Islands of Indonesia.

Today, with the advent of trains, automobiles, and pipelines, it is feasible to set up the New Silk Road. Trade is the key to business activity and to national economies. China has caught the vision of establishing its place in the world, its prestige, and its influence through trade, rather than through its military might. They offer financial incentives, rather than fear-based threats.

To accomplish this, they must be friends with every nation between China and Europe. When they buried the hatchet with Russia twenty years ago, they conquered the biggest obstacle. Iran and Pakistan are also keys to the New Silk Road. Silk, of course, is no longer a dominant article of trade, so it has now become an Oil-and Gas Road. And China’s desire for oil from Saudi Arabia makes it desirable for China to connect Saudi Arabia to the new “Road.”

Likewise, Iran wants to connect its oil to India, which must then run through Pakistan. Pakistan needs the business, too. The big problem is Saudi Wahabbist ideology that promotes and finances the jihadists, terrorists, and the rebels in Syria. Shia Iran and Sunni Saudi Arabia have always been at odds, but when the Saudis executed the Shia cleric, Sheik Nimr al Nimr, on January 2, 2016, the anger reached new levels not seen in recent history. An Iranian mob burned down the Saudi embassy in Iran. The Saudis severed diplomatic ties with Iran the next day.

Now Chinese president Xi Jinping has visited both Iran and Saudi Arabia, stepping into the fray on a peace-keeping mission. Will he be able to offer both nations sufficient financial incentives to induce them to work together in the New Silk Road project? It hardly seems possible. In fact, as Iran is rising from its tomb, Saudi Arabia is collapsing. It may take a few years for this situation to reach critical mass, but it is happening nonetheless.

Iran can only go up from here, because it has been largely isolated and its development held back since its 1979 revolution. Saudi Arabia has been at the top ever since its petro-dollar agreement with the US government in 1973. But now the situation is reversed. The US “betrayed” the Saudis by making a nuclear deal with Iran last July. This came on top of Obama’s hesitation to back the Saudi financial commitment against President Assad in Syria in the past few years.

President Obama (i.e., his handlers) want war with Russia, but they do not want to be blamed for starting it. Their policy has been to bait Putin and hope that his pride will cause him to react in such a way that he can be blamed for starting the war. Putin, however, knows better and has managed to maintain his cool while Obama pokes him in the eye. But this also means that Obama does not dare to send troops to Syria, and this has angered the Saudis.

So Saudis believe that the USA has betrayed them and is now shifting its alliances toward Iran, its traditional, most hated enemy. As the influence of China and Russia continue to rise, their allies rise with them—including Iran. It is becoming increasingly apparent to the Saudis that their alliance with the USA is leading them to their demise.

The question is this: Is it possible for the Saudi government to find new allies that will reverse their slide into oblivion and bankruptcy? They only have two real options: The USA-led nations, and the China-Russia-led nations. Short of a nuclear war, which would devastate the whole world, the New Silk Road is a guarantee that the East is rising, and the West is collapsing. Whoever hitches their star to the right wagon will remain strong in the 21st century.

From my viewpoint, God is on the side of the kings of the east, because Revelation 16:12 makes it clear that these are the forces that will overthrow Mystery Babylon, which is centered in the West and is empowered by debt-money banking, energy monopolies (Big Oil), and drugs (Big Pharma and CIA control of “illicit drug trafficking”).

In fact, when we understand that the new kings of the east are replaying a slightly revised script of the Medes and Persians when they overthrew old Babylon, then we can understand the Cyrus prophecies in Isaiah 44, 45. Even as God took the side of Cyrus, even calling him a “messiah” in Isaiah 45:1, so also has God taken the side of China and Russia today. This new coalition between God and Russia, China, Iran, and their allies ensures their victory in the long run.

Hence, the US and the West in general would do well to treat them as God’s agents in setting the stage for the Kingdom of God. It is not likely that either Chinese nor Russian leaders truly understand how God is using them for His purpose, but neither did Cyrus and Darius in ancient times. God’s invisible hand in history is seen only by a few during those times of great change. This is because few political leaders bother to read the Scriptures, and if they rely upon Church leaders to explain prophecy to them, they receive only a skewed view, the blind leading the blind. It is only by understanding the history of the fall of ancient Babylon and by connecting that story to the modern geopolitical scene that we are truly able to understand where history is moving.

Here is our advantage, if we have studied the Scriptures with a serious level of understanding, and if we have identified the characters on the world scene who are playing their roles as God called them to do.

What is their calling? God has called them to set us free from the long Babylonian captivity.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/01/16 08:36 PM

My comment: This is a good article that summarize the latest updates. There's so much news every day that I cannot bring them all forth but do contribute to the overall collapse event. So these type of "summary" report is good to bring so we can be updated on how all these news pieces integrate together into the bigger picture. Read this article from its source link if you want to get further information as some text are hyperlinked to the news source.

The last two sections of this article is an opinion and written by someone that doesn't take the divine plan into account. However, what he brings forth as large influx of immigration problems caused by years of wars and destabilization of Middle-East countries -- these are real social problems that will need to be address by which I know the Lord has a plan in mind to solve such problems.

Again, I expect a collapse of Mystery Babylon's SYSTEM and not a destruction of people or nations like it was establish in the pattern of the collapse of Old Babylon in the years 534 BC. This collapse of the Beastly corrupt SYSTEM is a good thing while we have news of the Chinese AIIB System, and the multinational BRICS system, and the new silk road trading system that are ready and in place to fill in the void that Mystery Babylon's system has left.

How Do You Know When Your Society Is In The Midst Of Collapse?

JANUARY 27, 2016

By Brandon Smith
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/01/how-...f-collapse.html

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As economic turmoil worldwide becomes increasingly apparent, I have been receiving messages from readers expressing some concerns on the public “perception” of collapse. That is to say, there are questions on the average person’s concept of collapse versus the reality of collapse. This is a vital issue that I have discussed briefly in the past, but it deserves a more in-depth analysis.

What is collapse? How do we define it? And, are some of the notions of collapse in the public consciousness completely wrong?

It’s funny, because skeptics opposed to the idea of a U.S. collapse in particular will most often retort with a question they think I cannot or will not answer – “So, Mr. Smith, when specifically is this supposed collapse going to take place? What day and time?”

My response has always been – “We’re in the middle of a collapse right now; you really can’t see it right in front of your sneering face?”


The reason these people are incapable of grasping this kind of answer is in large part due to the popular mainstream conceptions of systemic collapse. These are conceptions that are for the most part delusional and not in line with the facts. The public idea of collapse comes predominantly from Hollywood, and not from personal experience. For the masses (and some preppers, unfortunately), a collapse is an “event” that happens visibly and usually swiftly. You wake up one morning and behold; the television and phones don’t work anymore and zombies are at your doorstep! Yes, it’s childish and cartoonish, but anything less than a Walking Dead/Mad Max scenario and many people act as if all other threats are benign.

This is the driving reason why many Americans are absolutely oblivious to the economic instability that is rampant and blatant within our system the past few months. They might see the same signals that alternative analysts see, but these signals do not register in their brains as dangers.

Look at it this way; say you told a person their whole life that a tiger is a 10-foot tall behemoth with four heads that breathes fire while urinating flesh-rending acid. Say you make movies and TV shows about it and they never have any experience to the contrary. When they finally come across a real tiger, they might try to pet the damn thing instead of running in terror or searching for a means of defense.

To use another vicious animal analogy, when I encounter skeptics with false assumptions of what a collapse actually is, I am often reminded of that woman in Anchorage, Alaska who jumped an enclosure fence at the zoo to get a closer picture of Binky the polar bear. These people have been made so inept when it comes to identifying threats that they will continue arguing with you as the animal takes a football-sized bite out of their meaty thigh.

So what is the root of the problem beyond Hollywood fantasies? Well, the problem is that social and economic collapse is not a singular event, it is a PROCESS. Collapse is a series of events that sometimes span years. Each event increases in volatility over the last event, but as time goes on these events tend to condition the masses. The public develops a normalcy bias towards crisis (like the old “frog in a boiling pot” analogy). They lose all sense of what a healthy system looks like.

It is not uncommon for a society to wade through almost a decade or more of violent decline before finally acknowledging the system is imploding on a fundamental level. It is also not uncommon for societies to endure years of abuse by corrupt governments before either organizing effectively to rebel, or caving in and submitting to totalitarianism.

But how does one recognize a failing system? How does a person know if they are in the middle of a collapse rather than on the “verge” of collapse? Here are some signals I have derived from research of various breakdowns in modern nations and why they indicate we are experiencing collapse right now…

The Criminals Openly Admit To Their Crimes

The surest way to know if your society is in the midst of disintegration is to see if the criminals who created the instability in the first place are openly discussing a collapse scenario or warning that one is imminent.

A year ago, central bankers presented little more than a chorus of recovery propaganda. Today, not so much. The Royal Bank of Scotland is now warning investors to “sell everything” ahead of a “cataclysmic” year in markets.

The Federal Reserve’s Richard Fisher has admitted that the Fed “frontloaded” (manipulated) stock markets into a bubble and that payment is about to come due in the form of severe economic volatility (up to 20% crash in equities).

The Bank for International Settlements, the central bank of central banks, has a track record of warning the public about collapse conditions – right before they happen, leaving little or no time for people to prepare. They have followed their habit by warning in September and December that a Fed rate hike would “shatter” the uneasy calm in markets.

The former Chief Economist of the BIS now says the economy is in worse shape than it was in 2008 and is headed for a larger fall.

What happened between last year and this year and why are these internationalists suddenly so forthcoming about our economic reality? The fact that central bankers are the cause of our current collapse leads me to believe that such admissions are designed to deflect guilt. If they put out a few warnings now, they can then later claim they are prognosticators rather than culprits, and that they were trying to “help us.” Beyond that, the reality is that our situation was just as dire in 2014/2015 as it is today; the difference is that now we are about to enter a new phase in the ongoing collapse, a much more detrimental phase, but still a phase of a breakdown that has been progressing since at least 2008.

The Fundamentals Break Through The Manipulation Barrier

Governments and central banks do not have the capacity to artificially create demand for goods or a supply of well-paying jobs in a crashing economy. What they can do, though, is hide the visible problems in supply and demand with false numbers.

I examined such false economic statistics in great detail last year in a six-part series titled “One Last Look At The Real Economy Before It Implodes.” I will not cover them all again here. I would only point out that recently the fundamentals of supply and demand have begun to break through the deceit of manipulated numbers, and this is a sign that the collapse is about to move from one stage to the next.

With global shipping and trucking freight in steep decline, with retail inventories in stasis and current oil consumption falling to levels not seen since 1997 despite a larger population, the mainstream can no longer deny that consumer demand is crumbling. If demand is falling dramatically, then the financial system is in the middle of falling dramatically; there is simply no way around this truth.

Stocks And Commodities Become Violently Erratic

Let’s be clear, if stock markets represent anything at all, they are merely lagging indicators of economic instability. Stock markets are NOT predictive indicators of anything useful. Therefore, any person who does nothing but track equities each day is going to be completely oblivious to the bigger picture behind the economy until it is too late. They will be so mesmerized by the green numbers and red numbers and lines on minute-to-minute graphs that they will lose all sense of reality.

Violent swings in stocks are a sign of a financial system that is at the middle or end of the collapse process, not the beginning.

It is also important to note that extreme shifts in stocks and commodity values to the upside are just as much a signal of instability as shifts to the downside. For instance, if you witnessed the recent 9% explosion in oil markets and thought to yourself “Ah, the markets are being stabilized again and nothing is different this time…”, then you are an idiot.

Of course, the next day oil markets lost almost all of the gains they made the day before. And this is how markets behave when they are about to die; they expand and implode chaotically each day on nothing more that meaningless news headlines rather than hard data. This heart attack in equities inevitably trends downwards as the weeks and months pass. Keep in mind, equities are down nearly 10% from their recent highs, and oil is down approximately 50% in the past six months. Every time there is a dead cat bounce in stocks skeptics come out of the woodwork to call alternative analysts “doomers”, yet they are nowhere to be found when markets come crashing back down. They are not looking at the overall trend because their short attention spans hinder them. Again, extreme swings in markets, whether up or down, are a sign of progressing collapse.

Deterioration Of Cultural Values, Heritage And Identity

I have written extensively over the years about the Cloward-Piven strategy; a strategy used by collectivists to destabilize social systems by dumping overt numbers of foreign immigrants into the population without demand for integration. This process has been obvious in the U.S. and Europe for quite some time, but only now is it peaking to the point that collapse is seen as an inevitable result by the public. Europe is worse off than the U.S. in this regard as millions upon millions of Muslim immigrants are injected into the EU’s already dying body; immigrants that intend to transplant their culture from their own failed societies rather than adopting the values and principles of the societies that have invited them in.

Natural-born Americans and legal immigrants with aspiration of integration appear to be fighting back against the Cloward-Piven strategy with some success by holding onto traditional American values despite being labeled “barbarians” and “racists.” Illegal immigration, though, is still completely unchecked.

In the EU, the long campaign of cultural Marxism has made natural-born Europeans perhaps the most self-hating people on the planet as well as the most passive and weak. Organized opposition to massive immigration programs in the EU should have taken place years ago. Now it is far too late, and the European system is finishing a social implosion which should have already been obvious to average citizens.

Open Discussion Of Totalitarian Measures

When corrupt leadership moves from quiet totalitarianism to more open totalitarianism, your society is in the FINAL stages of collapse, not the beginning of a collapse. The U.S. in particular has been slowly strangled with subversive legal directives and political policies ever since the so called “War on Terror” began. However, there are now multiple signals of a much deeper and open tyranny in the works.

A few recent examples stand out, including Barack Obama’s insistence that the office of the president has the legal authority to issues executive orders that affect constitutional protections such as the 2nd Amendment. As many liberty movement activists are aware, there is absolutely no constitutional precedent for the use of executive orders and such powers are not mentioned anywhere in the document. They were simply created out of thin air to be used by the federal government and sometimes state governments to supersede normal checks and balances.

While numerous presidents have issued executive orders, including some that were outright tyrannical, like Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s unconstitutional internment of Japanese Americans into concentration camps, George W. Bush and Barack Obama have been the most subversive in their bypassing of the Constitution. Obama, in particular, has tried to hide the number of executive actions he has taken by issuing hundreds of “presidential memorandums,” which are basically the same dirty play by another name.

These actions have been progressively setting the stage for the removal of checks and balances entirely in the name of crisis management. They are so broad in their nature and vague in their definitions and applications that they could be interpreted by federal authorities to mean just about anything in any given situation.

If executive actions are not scary enough, corrupt politicians are now becoming blunt in their demands for dominance. Two Republican Senators, Mitch McConnel and Lindsay Graham, are calling for unlimited AUMF-style (authorization of use of military force) war powers to be given to the president. Such powers would allow the president to project U.S. military forces anywhere in the world for any reason without review or time limits. This includes the use of military forces on U.S. soil.

The rationale for this is, of course, the threat of ISIS. The same group of terrorists the U.S. government helped to create.

And finally, if you want perhaps the most nonchalant admission of future tyranny in recent days, check out former General Wesley Clark’s call for “disloyal” Americans to be placed in internment camps through the duration of the war on terror, a war that could ostensibly go on forever.



One could argue that all of these measures are meant only to deter “Islamic extremism.” I would point out that government officials could have stemmed that tide at any time by enforcing existing immigration laws, or, by stopping all immigration for a period of years until the problem is handled. Instead, they have allowed open borders to remain, and have even imported potential terrorists while focusing Department of Homeland Security efforts more on evil white guys with guns.

If we accept the violation of the constitutional rights of any group of citizens, if we allow the concept of “thought crime” to become commonplace, then we leave the door open to the violation of our own rights someday. And that is how tyrants trick populations through incremental collapse; by applying despotism to a claimed dangerous minority, then expanding it to everyone else.

America is sitting near the end of the spectrum in terms of economic collapse and in the middle of the spectrum in terms of social collapse. While more violent events are certainly gestating and are likely to be triggered in the near term, we should not overlook the reality that collapse is happening in stages all around us. This process gives us at least some time. All is not lost yet, and the steps we take to organize and prepare today will affect how the collapse process unfolds tomorrow. People who continue to ignore the outright evidence of collapse based on false assumptions of what collapse should look like are only preventing themselves from taking proper action until it is too late. Make no mistake, our system is dying. We cannot allow our false perceptions of this death to cloud the reality of it, or our response to it.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/12/16 05:32 PM

My comment: Canada, under Justin Trudeau leadership, has taken many great new direction, like not supporting US anymore in the Middle East wars. That spoke a lot to me of what kind of a man and leadership Canada is under now. However, this article says that in 2016, Canada sold nearly half of its gold reserve. That's not smart.

Canada Sells Nearly Half Of All Its Gold Reserves

By Monique Muise, as published on Global News

Feb 11

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-11/canada-sells-nearly-half-all-its-gold-reserves

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Canada sells nearly half of all its gold reserves

The government of Canada sold off nearly half its gold reserves in recent weeks, continuing a pattern of moving away from the precious metal as a government asset.

According to the International Monetary Fund’s International Financial Statistics, Canada held three tonnes of gold reserves as of late 2015.

The latest data, published last week, show the total Canadian gold reserves now stand at 1.7 tonnes. That’s just 0.1 per cent of the country’s total reserves, which also include foreign currency deposits and bonds. In comparison, the U.S. holds 8,133 tonnes of gold, while the United Kingdom weighs in at 310 tonnes.

The decision to sell came from Finance Minister Bill Morneau’s office.

“Canada’s gold reserves belong to the Government of Canada, and are held under the name of the Minister of Finance,” explained a spokesperson for the Bank of Canada on Wednesday. “Decisions relative to gold holdings are taken by the Minister of Finance.”

Reached by Global News on Wednesday evening, a spokesperson for the finance department said the sale “was done in the normal course of business for the government. The decision to sell the gold was not tied to a specific gold price, and sales are being conducted over a long period and in a controlled manner.”

This latest sell-off is indeed part of a much longer-term pattern of moving away from gold as a government-held asset. According to economist Ian Lee of the Sprott School of Business at Carleton University, Ottawa has no real reason to keep its gold reserves other than adhering to tradition.

“Under the old system, (gold) backed up currencies,” Lee explained. “The U.S. dollar was tied to gold. One ounce was worth US$35. Then in 1971, for lots of reasons I won’t get into, Richard Nixon took the United States off the gold standard.”

Gold and dollars were interchangeable until that point, he said, but in the modern financial world, the metal is no longer considered a form of currency.

“It is a precious metal, like silver … they can be sold like any asset.”

The amount of gold the Canadian government holds has therefore been falling steadily since the mid-1960s, when over 1,000 tonnes were kept tucked away. Half of those reserves were sold by 1985, and then almost all the rest were sold through the 1990s up to 2002.

By last year, Canada’s reserves were down to just three tonnes, and the latest sales have now halved that. At the current market rate, the value of 1.7 tonnes of gold comes in at just under CAD$100 million, barely a drop in the bucket when you consider the broader scope of federal finances.

According to Lee, there may soon come a time when Canada’s gold reserves are entirely a thing of the past. There are better assets to focus on, he argued, calling the government’s decision to dump gold “wise and astute.”

“It gives them more strategic flexibility to sell the gold, take the money and invest in U.S. government bonds, or United Kingdom bonds or French bonds or German bonds,” Lee said.
“Central banks can hold the government bonds of other countries, and they also hold actual dollars. The Chinese Central Bank actually holds hundreds of billions of U.S. dollars. Dollars are very liquid, so are government bonds, especially of a Western country.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/12/16 06:48 PM

German's central Bank collapsing - Deutsche Bundesbank
My comment : The past couple of weeks there's been many articles concerning German's central Bank collapsing - Deutsche Bundesbank. This is quite serious as it is this bank that holds the EU together by which has the largest portion of derivatives market hinging on it. If that bank collapse, it pops something like 700 trillions dollars of derivatives market debts.

Despite of the MSM trying to deflect the seriousness of these events, the 10 top shareholders have completely lost faith in the bank's ability to recover.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-09...reholder-admits

I haven't come across a good summary article of this yet and what it means to us globally. However the latest Bix Weir interview does address this question.



He also talks(@18 min. mark) about Venezuela selling their gold to pay their debt by which Bix thinks they didn't really sell it but have put their gold as a type of "derivative keep possession" ??? whatever that means. So hopefully that's what Canada did also with their gold.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/12/16 07:05 PM

My comment: Willem Middelkoop is addressing the banks collapse and the Plan B of a coming Global RESET by which to put in place the Gold backing of currencies.

BTW. the IMF finally started implementing this plus the voting rights given to other nations only on January 27 2016 that the Chinese and other countries were pushing these to be implemented in the central banks since 2010.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news...h.FXeURuDE.dpuf


Willem view is this collapse and Reset is not going to happen in a year but rather slowly in a timespan of 40 to 50 years. That the system is resilient enough to stand this long and the Chinese are long-term planners. That the banks debt will be resolve by only adjusting the gold price to something like $8000/oz that would boost every nation's gold value holdings thus diminishing their debt.

I think his view makes sense and is balance. The Chinese has already won this reform battle and have subdued Mystery Babylon to submit to the Chinese new system (AIIB, BRICS, and Silk Road Fund). However, these changes will be integrated slowly within our governments, countries banking sytems, and in our societies gradually but yet will be quite progressive.

The End Of Plan A: The Big Reset & $8000 Gold

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-01/end-plan-big-reset-8000-gold

Quote:
Willem Middlekoop, author of The Big Reset – The War On Gold And The Financial Endgame, believes the current international monetary system has entered its last term and is up for a reset. Having predicted the collapse of the real estate market in 2006, (while Ben Bernanke didn't), Middlekoop asks (rhetorically) -can the global credit expansion 'experiment' from 2002 – 2008, which Bernanke completely underestimated, be compared to the global QE 'experiment' from 2008 – present? - the answer is worrisome. In the following must-see interview with Grant Williams, he shares his thoughts on the future of the global monetary system and why the revaluation of Gold is inevitable...

Middlekoop predicts the real estate crash in 2006... (ensure English Subtitles - Closed Captions - are enabled)

Bernanke did not... (stunning!!)

And now today, Middelkoop has some even more ominous concerns about the end of Plan A and where Plan B begins...

"By revaluing gold to a much higher level, to over $8000 an ounce, central bankers solve quite a lot of problems"

17:00 - "But we know Plan A - the current financial system - will end soon, we can't go on this way... so we need a monetary reset... and a revaluation of gold has helped central bankers in the past, such as Roosevelt in the 1930s. It would help to restore the balance sheet of The Federal Reserve."

But there are problems...

21:00 - "It always ends in inflation.. certainly in 2016, we can expect more QE... and when that does not defeat deflation (driven by global over-indebtedness), further unorthodox measures will be taken (helicopter money).. and eventually a gold revaluation."

In this episode of the Gold series, Willem Middelkoop, founder of the Commodities Discovery Fund, dives into the history of monetary shifts and explores a scenario where the US dollar could be debunked as the global reserve currency. Willem discusses the possibility of gold being incorporated back into the monetary system, outlining the knock-on effects and the role of central banks in this scenario.

Grab a glass of wine (or something stronger) and enjoy...

Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/18/16 03:56 AM

Just to let you know that I am looking at this thread.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/18/16 05:12 PM

My comment : Because Banks wants to implement negative interest rates by which would cost anyone money to keep money in the Banks. For example someone with $200,000 in the bank would pay $2000 fee yearly if 1% negative interest rate is implemented. So to avoid these fees, logically people will want to withdraw their money from the Banks. Thus to also Ban cash with implementing negative interest rates would resolve the problem of the possibility in withdrawing cash. This is the logistic behind this. In Europe they are talking to ban the $500 euro bills and in the US the $100 USD bills. These are the two most used currency bills in circulation : $500Euro (30%) and the $100USD (78%). see (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-16...e-kill-100-bill and http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-15/war-paper-currency-begins-ecb-votes-scrap-500-euro-bill )


The Ban On Cash Is Coming, Soon
https://www.sovereignman.com/trends/the-ban-on-cash-is-coming-soon-18687

Feb 17, 2016

by Simon Black

Quote:
This is starting to become very concerning.

The momentum to “ban cash”, and in particular high denomination notes like the 500 euro and $100 bills, is seriously picking up steam.

On Monday the European Central Bank President emphatically disclosed that he is strongly considering phasing out the 500 euro note.

Yesterday, former US Treasury Secretary Larry Summers published an op-ed in the Washington Post about getting rid of the $100 bill.

Prominent economists and banks have joined the refrain and called for an end to cash in recent months.

The reasoning is almost always the same: cash is something that only criminals, terrorists, and tax cheats use.

In his op-ed, Summers refers to a new Harvard research paper entitled: “Making it Harder for the Bad Guys: The Case for Eliminating High Denomination Notes”.

That title pretty much sums up the conventional thinking. And the paper goes on to propose abolishing, among others, 500 euro and $100 bills.

The authors claim that “without being able to use high denomination notes, those engaged in illicit activities – the ‘bad guys’ of our title – would face higher costs and greater risks of detection. Eliminating high denomination notes would disrupt their ‘business models’.”

Personally I find this comical.

I can just imagine a bunch of bureaucrats and policy wonks sitting in a room pretending to know anything about criminal activity.

It’s total nonsense. As long as there has been human civilization there has been crime. Crime pre-dates cash. And it will exist long after they attempt to ban it.

Perhaps even more hilarious is that many of these bankrupt governments have become so desperate for economic growth that they now count illegal drug activity and prostitution in their GDP calculations, both of which are typically transacted in cash.

So, ironically, by banning cash these governments will end up reducing their own GDP figures.

What’s really behind this? Why is there such a big movement to ban something that is used for felonious purposes by just a fraction of a percent of the population?

Cash, it turns out, is the Achilles’ Heel of the financial system.

Central banks around the world have kept interest rates at near-zero levels for nearly eight years now.

And despite having created massive bubbles and enabled extraordinary amounts of debt, their policies aren’t working.

Especially in Europe, the hope of stoking economic growth (and even the sickening goal of inflation) has failed.

So naturally, since what they’ve been trying hasn’t worked, their response is to continue trying the same thing… and more of it.

Interest rates across the European continent are now negative.

Japanese interest rates are now negative.

And even in the United States, the Federal Reserve has acknowledged that negative interest rates are being considered.

They have no other choice; raising rates will bankrupt the governments they support and derail any fledgling economic growth.

Look at how low interest rates are in the US– and yet 4th quarter GDP practically ground to a halt. They simply cannot afford to raise rates.

As global economic weakness continues to play out, central banks will have no other option but to take interest rates even further into negative territory.

That said, negative interest rates will be the destruction of the financial system.

Because sooner or later, if banks have to pay negative wholesale interest rates to each other and to the central bank, then eventually they’ll have to pass those negative rates on to their customers.

Many banks have already started doing this, especially on larger depositors.

We’ve seen this in Europe where some banks charge their customers negative interest to save money, and in some extraordinary circumstances, pay other customers to borrow money.

It’s total madness.

There’s a certain point, however, when interest rates become so negative that no rational person would hold money in the banking system.

Eventually people will realize that they’re better off withdrawing their money and holding physical cash.

Sure, cash doesn’t pay any interest. But it doesn’t cost any either.

If you have a $200,000 in your savings account at negative 1%, you’d have to pay the bank $2,000 each year.

Clearly it would make more sense to buy a safe and hold most of that money in cash.

Problem is, the banks don’t have the money.

For starters, there’s literally not enough cash in the entire financial system to pay out more than a fraction of all bank deposits.

More importantly, banks (especially in the US and Europe) are extremely illiquid.

They invest the vast majority of your deposit in illiquid loans or securities of dubious long-term value, whatever the latest stupid investment fad happens to be.

And many banks have been engaging in a substantial balance sheet shift, rotating bonds from what’s called “Available for Sale” to “Hold to Maturity”.

This is an accounting trick used to hide losses in their bond portfolios. But it also means they have less liquidity available to support bank customer withdrawal requests.

The natural side effect of negative interest rates is pushing people to hold money outside of the banking system.

Yet it’s clear that a surge of withdrawal requests would bring down that system.

Banks don’t want that to happen. Governments don’t want that to happen.

But since central banks have no other choice than to continue imposing negative interest rates, the only logical option is to ban cash and force consumers to hold their money within the banking system.

Make no mistake, this is absolutely a form of capital controls. And it’s coming soon to a banking system near you.
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/19/16 07:48 AM

The aim is to impoverish the people and make them dependent upon the state.

As long as the population has a large middle class of industrious, self supporting, independent people the government does not control them.

The USA WAS a country governed by the people for the people, with a government of checks and balances to keep it as a servant not a tyrant.

By draining the money away from the people, under whatever program (and from the posts in this thread there are many such programs) thus making the people dependent upon the government for handouts and the very essentials of life, this elevates the government into absolute control.

No, the USA is not going to go "belly up", but the people will loose their independence, they will loose their means, and the USA will cause everyone rich and poor to come begging to them for provisions.

Then the government can give provisions to them that line up to whatever is demanded of them, and deny provisions to them that cling to their own ideas of right and wrong.


Yes, there is a global restructure going on -- but it is NOT GOOD, and will lead to nothing good, only ruin and final destruction for this world.



The USA will cause all, small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (some identifying characteristic that will qualify them to receive government benefits, however that something will be worship to the system instead of worship as outlined in God's commandments)
And that no man might buy or sell, (without that benefit check from the government, which they receive only if they have) "the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. See revelation 13:16-17


But God will deliver His people --


Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/25/16 09:00 PM

As Tim Roosenberg said, "God's people get caught in the middle." He further states that they are the only ones who will be delivered at the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/26/16 03:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
As Tim Roosenberg said, "God's people get caught in the middle." He further states that they are the only ones who will be delivered at the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ.

What did he meant with delivered? The only survivors? And based on what prophecy?

My understanding is based on the fact that the Lord has linked the fall of Mystery Babylon with the Kings of the East and the Euphrates River.

Rev 16:12 "And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.".

This shows us that the fall of Old Babylon is the prophetic Type where the Persian King and the Median King diverted the Euphrates River so they could go into the city by the dried river to conquer Babylon.

Today, we see the same plot but with different players. The Kings of the East are China and Russia. The current economic collapse is the drying up the CURREN-cy of the life source river of Babylon.

When Old Babylon fell, the people were not destroyed. Only the Babylonian System and Empire got replace by the Medes and the Persian system.

After the destruction of Babylon, King Cyrus funded the rebuilding of many nations cities and temples including Jerusalem and their Temple. Thus I expect the same events to re-occur. But not the rebuilding of the City of Old Jerusalem, but the rebuilding of the "City" of the New Jerusalem (=the Kingdom of God) and their temple(=the believers are now the temple so probably fund believers projects "to bless all the families of the world").
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/01/16 06:45 PM

My comment: Looks like Canada is going forward by testing the proposed project submitted by the Green Party to eliminate poverty that is calculated to save the government Billions of dollars yearly.

A Basic Income For Ontario? Province Plans Pilot Project As Part Of Budget


02/26/2016

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/02/26/ontario-basic-income_n_9328264.html

Quote:
The government of Ontario is planning to launch a pilot project to test out a guaranteed basic income.

What that pilot project will look like, and what it will cost, is not yet known. In its budget documents, unveiled Thursday, the Liberal government of Premier Kathleen Wynne said it would “work with communities, researchers and other stakeholders in 2016 to determine how best to design and implement a Basic Income pilot.”

Finance Minister Charles Sousa said the province will decide whether to make a basic income permanent on the basis of that pilot project, the Globe and Mail reported.

The idea of replacing numerous government benefits with a single cheque sent to all households, regardless of income, has been gaining steam in recent years.

Finland plans to outline a basic income plan for its citizens later this year, while the Dutch city of Utrecht launched an experiment in January, involving welfare recipients, to see what effect a basic income would have.

The Swiss will vote in a referendum in June to decide whether to implement a basic income of some C$3,200 per month — much more generous than most basic income proposals and experiments.

In Ontario, some municipalities have been calling on the provincial government to consider implementing a basic income. Kingston's city council last December became the first legislative body in Canada to endorse the idea.

Check out HuffPost Canada’s primer on the guaranteed income idea.

Supporters of the basic income idea say it could all but eliminate poverty. They argue it would streamline government bureaucracies, as a basic income would replace many other benefits, potentially including welfare, unemployment insurance, Old Age Security and others.

The town of Dauphin, Manitoba, ran an experiment on what was then called a “minimum income,” or “mincome,” back in the 1970s. The experiment’s results were shelved, likely for political reasons, but a researcher uncovered the data in recent years and found the program largely eliminated poverty.

Critics of the basic income often raise concerns that it would create a disincentive to work. The Dauphin experiment showed that there was a small decline in the workforce, but it was mostly due to people being able to afford to go back to school for further education.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/02/16 02:36 PM



"Today, we see the same plot but with different players. The Kings of the East are China and Russia. The current economic collapse is the drying up the CURREN-cy of the life source river of Babylon. "



Where in the Bible is there support for the statement that "CURREN-cy (is) the life source river of Babylon"?
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/04/16 05:21 AM

While I find Elle's news reports very interesting --
don't expect her conclusions to agree with Adventist beliefs.

By now everyone should realize her end time ideas are very different from Adventist Prophetic interpretations.

If I remember correctly she equates Babylon with the United States,

We equate Babylon with the harlot of Revelation 17 -- the fornicating bride of Christ who has chosen the kings of the earth as her lovers rather than Christ -- namely apostate Christianity, both daughters and mother Roman Papacy.

Now I do find Elle's news reports interesting, she does a lot of research! Those news reports fit into our prophetic beliefs nicely.

Last day events do include a strict control of "buying and selling" (see Rev. 13)
It's not drying up the "currency of Babylon" but drying up the currency of the people -- "both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond", -- without currency they will have to bow to the demands made upon them and receive the "mark of the beast" in order to obtain the necessities of life.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/04/16 10:35 AM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne


"Today, we see the same plot but with different players. The Kings of the East are China and Russia. The current economic collapse is the drying up the CURREN-cy of the life source river of Babylon. "



Where in the Bible is there support for the statement that "CURREN-cy (is) the life source river of Babylon"?



Rev 16:12 relates how Mystery Babylon will fall with the same event that Old Babylon fell -- the drying up of the Euphrates river that gives way to the Kings of the East.

Types in the bible are expressed in a physical or carnal form. Like the laws that Paul explains several time is expressed as such, but the Anti-type (or fulfillment of the Type) is manifested in a Spiritual form. This pattern we see repeated over and over again.

Some examples:

1.Type : Abraham had two sons : 1st was carnal-from the flesh, 2nd was spiritual - of the promise.
Antitype : the Lord had two sons : 1st = Israel was carnal-from the flesh(Ex 4:22), 2nd ="spiritual" Israel is spiritual -- begotten from above.

2.type : circumcision -- of the flesh(physical)
antitype : circumcision -- of the heart(spiritual)

3.type : Priesthood of Levi -- Father from a specific physical blood line(Levi) that ultimately points to the 1st Adam.
antitype : Priesthood of Melchisedek -- Father from Heaven (spiritual) that points to the 2nd Adam.

4. type : 1st birth -- of the flesh(Physical)
antitype : 2nd birth -- of the spirit

5. type : Levirate law -- the brother had to give an heir to wife of deceased eldest brother who was childless -- done physically
antitype : Jesus died childless without any heir, and we, his brother, are to beget children via the gospel -- done spiritually

And so on and so forth.

So to apply this to the fall of Babylon

type: the euphrates river which was the life stream of Old Babylon. It was diverted and dried up so the Kings of the East was able to enter the highly walled and guarded city via the river, to conquer it.
Antitype : the life steam of Mystery Babylon is its ability to issue their own currency and charge interest(usury which is against the Lord's laws). Currency comes from the root word current like the current of a river. So the Kings of the East has diverted the river(by means of an alternative banking system and reform of currency to have gold backing and etc...) and Lord is drying up the life stream(current-cy) of Mystery Babylon to give way for the Kings of the East to conquer it.

Of course this is only a prophetic interpretation that anyone can dispute. However, we are living in the time of the fall of Mystery Babylon and can watch the current events as it unfolds. To me it does point towards such type of interpretation. Time will tell what the Lord has planned and how He is fulfilling His word.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/04/16 11:18 AM

Originally Posted By: dedication
While I find Elle's news reports very interesting --
don't expect her conclusions to agree with Adventist beliefs.

By now everyone should realize her end time ideas are very different from Adventist Prophetic interpretations.

If I remember correctly she equates Babylon with the United States,

I'm happy that you bring on your point of view dedication(& others) in this discussion. I think it's healthy and the Lord always let the two sides co-exist and be in front of the People to choose.

So I'm for that and welcome it.

To answer your question that I emphacized in your quote, no I do not believe the United States is Mystery Babylon. The USA government has been usurped slowly by a Foreign entity for over 100 years.(see http://annavonreitz.com/ or the last post of Page 51) So the US is only a puppet in the hands of Mystery Babylon using as a Military front to bully and destroy other nations government and economic system so they can implement their own banking system and put in charge a puppet leader of their choice and change their laws at will and over-ride their constitutional laws with their merchants laws(aka Admiralty laws or laws of the sea). This is what they first did with the USA, and have done with Canada, all European countries, Australia, Ireland, and etc....).

I know this thread is long and I didn't expect that you know or go dig out my position from all these pages. ProdigalOne and I had a good exchange about this by which allowed me to express what my understanding is who I think is Mystery Babylon. The exchange can be read from Page 43 starting on the 2nd post #177159. This exchange extends up to page 44.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/04/16 07:57 PM

My comments: As expected, with the continuous news of the economic system crashing taking stride since January; people are flocking to buy physical gold & silver, and those that bought paper gold wants their investment in physical. Well there's no gold for the demand.

I saw an article back in end Jan/early Feb reporting people in England lined up to buy gold.

"It appears the huge demand for physical gold (and lack of supply) is finally catching up with the manipulation of paper prices.

If this is anything other than a brief technical suspension, it could well unleash panic-buying as we already pointed out - there is no physical gold!

...
...it would appear that some gold is still available... one just has to pay up for it."



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-04/blackrock-suspends-gold-etf-issuance-due-demand-gold

March 4th, 2016
Gold ETF Market Breaks: BlackRock Suspends ETF Issuance Due To "Surging Demand For Gold"


Quote:
BlackRock's Gold ETF (IAU) has seen fund inflows every day in 2016 (no outflows at all) and with the stock trading above its NAV for most of the year, the world's largest asset manager has made a significant decision:

*BLACKROCK SAYS ISSUANCE OF GOLD TRUST SHARES SUSPENDED
*BLACKROCK SAYS SUSPENSION DUE TO DEMAND FOR GOLD


BlackRock Statement:

Quote:
Issuance of New IAU (Gold Trust) Shares Temporarily Suspended; Existing Shares to Trade Normally for Retail and Institutional Investors on NYSE Arca and Other Venues

Suspension results from surging demand for gold, which requires registration of new shares

iShares Delaware Trust Sponsor LLC, in its capacity as the sponsor of iShares Gold Trust (IAU), has temporarily suspended the creation of new shares of IAU until additional shares are registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).

This suspension does not affect the ability of retail and institutional investors to trade on stock exchanges. Retail and institutional investors will continue to be able to buy and sell shares in IAU.

IAU holds gold as a physical asset. IAU is an exchange-traded commodity (ETC), which therefore is not eligible for registration as an investment company under the ’40 Act. IAU may only be registered under the ’33 Act as a grantor trust. Under the ’33 Act, subscriptions for new shares in excess of those registered requires additional filings with the SEC.

Nearly all other U.S. iShares are exchange-traded funds (ETFs), registered as investment companies under the ’40 Act. The ’40 Act provides for the continuous offering of shares and does not require registration of additional shares as the fund grows due to investor demand in connection to new subscriptions.

Since the start of 2016, in response to global macroeconomic conditions, demand for gold and for IAU has surged among global investors. IAU has $8 billion in assets under management, and has expanded $1.4 billion year to date. February marked its largest creation activity in the last decade.

This surge in demand has led to the temporary exhaustion of IAU shares currently registered under the ’33 Act. We are registering new shares to accommodate future creations in the primary market by filing a Form 8-K to announce the resumption of the offering of new shares. The ability of authorized participants to redeem shares of IAU is not affected.

It appears the huge demand for physical gold (and lack of supply) is finally catching up with the manipulation of paper prices.

If this is anything other than a brief technical suspension, it could well unleash panic-buying as we already pointed out - there is no physical gold!


As we previously concluded, the reality that there are just two tons of gold to satisfy delivery requsts based on accepted protocols should in itself be troubling, ignoring the latent question why so many owners of physical gold are de-warranting their holdings.

Considering there are now less than 74,000 ounces of Registered gold at the Comex, or just over 2 tonnes, we may be about to find out how right, or wrong, the skeptics are, because at this rate the combined Registered vault gold could be depleted as soon as the next delivery request is satisfied. Or isn't.

Meanwhile, this is how gold is taking the news - it would appear that some gold is still available... one just has to pay up for it.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/04/16 08:08 PM

My comment: This is not the first admission I have seen. We don't know how long this crashing phase is going to be. I'm starting to wonder if its going to be longer than what I expected. I really don't know how things will pan out. So I rather be safe than sorry. I keep in the bank only what is necessary to pay bills.

"there simply is not enough physical cash in the entire financial system to support even a tiny fraction of the demand."

German Banks Told To Start Hoarding Cash

03/04/2016

Quote:
Just stunning.

German newspaper Der Spiegel reported yesterday that the Bavarian Banking Association has recommended that its member banks start stockpiling PHYSICAL CASH.

Europe, of course, has been battling with negative interest rates for quite some time.

What this means is that commercial banks are being charged interest for holding wholesale deposits at the European Central Bank.

In order to generate artificial economic growth, the ECB wants banks to make as many loans as possible, no matter how stupid or idiotic.

They believe that economic growth is simply a function of loans. The more money that’s loaned out, the more the economy will grow.

This is the sort of theory that works really well in an economic textbook. But it doesn’t work so well in a history textbook.

Cheap money encourages risky behavior. It gives banks an incentive to give ‘no money down’ loans to homeless people with no employment history.

It creates bubbles (like the housing bubble from 10 years ago), and ultimately, financial panics (like the banking crisis from 8 years ago).

Banks are supposed to be conservative, responsible managers of other people’s money.

When central bank policies penalize that practice, bad things tend to happen.

Traditionally when a commercial bank in Europe wants to play it safe with its customers’ funds, they would hold excess reserves on deposit with the European Central Bank.

In the past, they might even have been paid interest on those excess reserves as an extra incentive to be conservative.

Now it’s the exact opposite. If a bank holds excess reserves on deposit at the ECB to ensure that they have a greater margin of safety, they must now pay 0.3% to the ECB.

That’s what it means to have negative interest rates. And for the bank, this eats into their profits, especially when they have tens of billions in excess reserves.

Talk about being between a rock and a hard place.

On one hand, banks stand to lose a ton of money in negative interest. On the other hand, they put their customers’ deposits at risk if they don’t hold extra reserves.

Well, the Bavarian Banking Association has had enough of this financial dictatorship.

Their new recommendation is for all member banks to ditch the ECB and instead start keeping their excess reserves in physical cash, stored in their own bank vaults.

This is officially an all-out revolution of the financial system where banks are now actively rebelling against the central bank.

(What’s even more amazing is that this concept of traditional banking– holding physical cash in a bank vault– is now considered revolutionary and radical.)

There’s just one teensy tiny problem: there simply is not enough physical cash in the entire financial system to support even a tiny fraction of the demand.

Total bank deposits exceed trillions of euros. Physical cash constitutes just a small percentage of that sum.

So if German banks do start hoarding physical currency, there won’t be any left in the financial system.

This will force the ECB to choose between two options:

1) Support this rebellion and authorize the issuance of more physical cash; or

2) Impose capital controls.
Given that just two weeks ago the President of the ECB spoke about the possibility of banning some higher denomination cash notes, it’s not hard to figure out what’s going to happen next.

Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/05/16 12:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne


"Today, we see the same plot but with different players. The Kings of the East are China and Russia. The current economic collapse is the drying up the CURREN-cy of the life source river of Babylon. "



Where in the Bible is there support for the statement that "CURREN-cy (is) the life source river of Babylon"?



Rev 16:12 relates how Mystery Babylon will fall with the same event that Old Babylon fell -- the drying up of the Euphrates river that gives way to the Kings of the East.

Types in the bible are expressed in a physical or carnal form. Like the laws that Paul explains several time is expressed as such, but the Anti-type (or fulfillment of the Type) is manifested in a Spiritual form. This pattern we see repeated over and over again.

Some examples:

1.Type : Abraham had two sons : 1st was carnal-from the flesh, 2nd was spiritual - of the promise.
Antitype : the Lord had two sons : 1st = Israel was carnal-from the flesh(Ex 4:22), 2nd ="spiritual" Israel is spiritual -- begotten from above.

2.type : circumcision -- of the flesh(physical)
antitype : circumcision -- of the heart(spiritual)

3.type : Priesthood of Levi -- Father from a specific physical blood line(Levi) that ultimately points to the 1st Adam.
antitype : Priesthood of Melchisedek -- Father from Heaven (spiritual) that points to the 2nd Adam.

4. type : 1st birth -- of the flesh(Physical)
antitype : 2nd birth -- of the spirit

5. type : Levirate law -- the brother had to give an heir to wife of deceased eldest brother who was childless -- done physically
antitype : Jesus died childless without any heir, and we, his brother, are to beget children via the gospel -- done spiritually

And so on and so forth.

So to apply this to the fall of Babylon

type: the euphrates river which was the life stream of Old Babylon. It was diverted and dried up so the Kings of the East was able to enter the highly walled and guarded city via the river, to conquer it.
Antitype : the life steam of Mystery Babylon is its ability to issue their own currency and charge interest(usury which is against the Lord's laws). Currency comes from the root word current like the current of a river. So the Kings of the East has diverted the river(by means of an alternative banking system and reform of currency to have gold backing and etc...) and Lord is drying up the life stream(current-cy) of Mystery Babylon to give way for the Kings of the East to conquer it.

Of course this is only a prophetic interpretation that anyone can dispute. However, we are living in the time of the fall of Mystery Babylon and can watch the current events as it unfolds. To me it does point towards such type of interpretation. Time will tell what the Lord has planned and how He is fulfilling His word.




That's an interesting theory; however, if we allow the Bible to define its own terms, it is clear that water represents people, not currency.

"And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." Revelation 17:15
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/05/16 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne


"Today, we see the same plot but with different players. The Kings of the East are China and Russia. The current economic collapse is the drying up the CURREN-cy of the life source river of Babylon. "



Where in the Bible is there support for the statement that "CURREN-cy (is) the life source river of Babylon"?



Rev 16:12 relates how Mystery Babylon will fall with the same event that Old Babylon fell -- the drying up of the Euphrates river that gives way to the Kings of the East.

Types in the bible are expressed in a physical or carnal form. Like the laws that Paul explains several time is expressed as such, but the Anti-type (or fulfillment of the Type) is manifested in a Spiritual form. This pattern we see repeated over and over again.

Some examples:

1.Type : Abraham had two sons : 1st was carnal-from the flesh, 2nd was spiritual - of the promise.
Antitype : the Lord had two sons : 1st = Israel was carnal-from the flesh(Ex 4:22), 2nd ="spiritual" Israel is spiritual -- begotten from above.

2.type : circumcision -- of the flesh(physical)
antitype : circumcision -- of the heart(spiritual)

3.type : Priesthood of Levi -- Father from a specific physical blood line(Levi) that ultimately points to the 1st Adam.
antitype : Priesthood of Melchisedek -- Father from Heaven (spiritual) that points to the 2nd Adam.

4. type : 1st birth -- of the flesh(Physical)
antitype : 2nd birth -- of the spirit

5. type : Levirate law -- the brother had to give an heir to wife of deceased eldest brother who was childless -- done physically
antitype : Jesus died childless without any heir, and we, his brother, are to beget children via the gospel -- done spiritually

And so on and so forth.

So to apply this to the fall of Babylon

type: the euphrates river which was the life stream of Old Babylon. It was diverted and dried up so the Kings of the East was able to enter the highly walled and guarded city via the river, to conquer it.
Antitype : the life steam of Mystery Babylon is its ability to issue their own currency and charge interest(usury which is against the Lord's laws). Currency comes from the root word current like the current of a river. So the Kings of the East has diverted the river(by means of an alternative banking system and reform of currency to have gold backing and etc...) and Lord is drying up the life stream(current-cy) of Mystery Babylon to give way for the Kings of the East to conquer it.

Of course this is only a prophetic interpretation that anyone can dispute. However, we are living in the time of the fall of Mystery Babylon and can watch the current events as it unfolds. To me it does point towards such type of interpretation. Time will tell what the Lord has planned and how He is fulfilling His word.


I am glad to see that you at least took Rev 16:12 symbolically and you are not expecting a LITERAL and PHYSICAL fulfillment. That’s good and I think it is a correct Biblical approach to see TYPES being fulfilled Spiritually and not literally or physically.

Originally Posted By: ProdigalSon
That's an interesting theory; however, if we allow the Bible to define its own terms, it is clear that water represents people, not currency.

"And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." Revelation 17:15

The term used in Rev 16:12 is not water, it is the Euphrates river. And not just any section of that river for it is quite long and flowed thru many areas; but specifically to a section tied to an event in history when King Cyrus and King Darius dried it up to conquer Old Babylon.

The 6th seal prepares the way for the events of the seventh seal which is the fall of Babylon; thus the 6th seal and the 7th are closely linked. Since the 6th seal makes reference to the manner King Cyrus and King Darius conquered Old Babylon by drying up the Euphrates river; thus by this alone, the Lord establishes which TYPE we are to look back at to understand the current fall of Mystery Babylon.

When we look at history, this "drying up" of the Euphrates river was the last act that led to the fall of Babylon. This drying up of the river by King Cyrus, was Prophesied in Isaiah 44 around 200 years prior.

Quoting Isaiah 44:24 to 45:1 from the NASB translation :

NASB 24 Thus says Yahweh, your Redeemer . . . 25 causing the omens of boasters to fail, making fools out of diviners, causing wise men to draw back, and turning their knowledge into foolishness, 26 confirming the word of His Servant, and performing the purpose of His messengers, “It is I who says of Jerusalem, ‘She shall be inhabited!’ and of the cities of Judah, ‘They shall be built.’ And I will raise up her ruins again, 27 It is I who says to the depth of the sea, ‘Be dried up!’ And I will make your rivers dry. 28 It is I who says of Cyrus, ‘He is My shepherd! And he will perform all My desire.’ And he declares of Jerusalem, ‘She will be built,’ and of the temple, ‘Your foundation will be laid.’
1 Thus says the Lord to Cyrus His anointed
[Messiach] , whom I have taken by the right hand to subdue nations before him. . .

Some notes :

v.25 -- “causing the omens of boasters to fail” : Despite the drying up of the Euphrates river was done by King Cyrus and King Darius that led to such a quick conquest of Babylon; notice how the Lord takes credit for it. He’s the one that coordinated the timing of the event, inspired the idea, and made it possible to dry it up that Great River by a pre-dugged basin. All of this led to the overthrow of Babylon and put an end to the plans of the boasters[Babylon]. So I think the Lord can rightfully make this claim. It was not really King Cyrus & Darius the credit is due, despite they will take the credit for it. For sure they were his agents, but it is the Lord that had drawn up the plan before hand and made the conquest possible for Cyrus and Darius.

V.27 -- “And I will make your rivers dry” : The first book of Herodotus histories tells the details of the account of Cyrus the Great in his conquest of old Babylon. One year prior , on his way to Babylon, Cyrus & his army had to first cross the river of Gyndes. That river was so great that Cyrus beautiful white sacred horse was swept away. So paragraph 189 says “And Cyrus was greatly moved with anger against the river for having done thus insolently, and he threatened to make it so feeble that for the future even women could cross it easily without wetting the knee. So after this threat he ceased from his march against Babylon and divided his army into two parts; and having divided it he stretched lines and marked out straight channels, one hundred and eighty on each bank of the Gyndes, directed every way, and having disposed his army along them he commanded them to dig: so, as a great multitude was working, the work was completed indeed, but they spent the whole summer season at this spot working.

This “drying up” the Gyndes river delayed Cyrus arrival to Babylon. This delay was part of the Lord’s plan so that Cyrus would arrive at the perfect timing when there was a great party in the city. Also, this digging up the Gyndes river gave his army experience and the tools to “dry up” the next river.

The pre-dugged up basin by Queen Nitocris,the mother of Belshazzar, accounted in par.185 was also an important pre-event that made the drying up of the Euphrates river possible. I assume Euphrates was much greater in size than the Gyndes river. That huge basin was dugged for the building of a bridge across the Euphrates to connect the two half of Babylon. This great basin which was as big as a "sea" measuring 15 miles in diameter was temporary and used to divert the river so they could lay the foundation stones for the construction of the bridge. It was that basin Cyrus used to dry up the Euphrates river as accounted in par. 191.

v.26,28,45:1 -- Cyrus is called “His Servant”, “My shepherd”, “His Messiah”: Despite Cyrus was an unbeliever, the Lord called him all these names for the following reason :

“His Servant” – for the Lord was able to get Cyrus to performed the Lord’s will --“he will perform all My desire”,

“My shepherd” – for Cyrus cared of the Lord’s people by rebuilding the city of Jerusalem and the temple,

“His Messiah” -- because Cyrus delivered the Lord’s people and other nations from the oppression of Babylon.

The Lord did all this thru Cyrus without him knowing what he was doing or knowing the prophecies about him,
And the same is happening with the overthrow of Mystery Babylon. The Kings of the East (China & Russia) have no idea they are doing the Lord’s bidding. Despite they don’t know, nor know these prophecies; the Lord is still able to fulfill His word. Anyway, the fulfillment of His word never depended on the ability of the flesh, but only on His ability. The flesh has always only proved that it can only fail. But the Lord never fails and He will fulfill all His plans on His timing and in His ways as He always did in the past.
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/06/16 06:46 AM

Interesting accounts of the history of Cyrus.
And yes, we do agree that it is a "type" and relates to the text in Rev. 16:12. Thus far there is agreement.

However, I don't see the connection of the type to "money" or to Russia and China.

Cyrus is a type of Christ (as our Deliverer)
"Cyrus, ‘He is My shepherd"
"Cyrus His anointed"
[Messiah]

God's people were in captivity in Babylon.
Cyrus's "heavenly mission" was to set God's people free so they would go to the promised land.

The drying up of the Euphrates was to prepare the way for Cyrus and Darius to conquer Babylon, and free God's people.

Thus Christ will dry up the "Euphrates", not to prepare the way for China and Russia, but to prepare the way as HE, Christ, puts down Babylon and frees His people taking them to the heavenly promised land.

Matt. 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shines even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Are rivers a type of and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." Revelation 17:15

There are references of rivers being "nations" -- especially when they "flow over their banks" and start conquering other nations.

Example is Isaiah 8:7 Now therefore, behold, the Lord bringeth up upon them the waters of the river, strong and many, even the king of Assyria, and all his glory: and he shall come up over all his channels, and go over all his banks:

So in type during the last plagues, when the armies of Babylon (waters of her river, strong and many) will be subjecting the world into the false worship system, and overflowing all it's channels and coming up over all it's banks.
Flooding till it comes up to the neck (Is. 8:8)

Christ will step in and dry up that Babylonian river Euphrates, just as he dried up the Assyrian "river" of armies as they besieged Jerusalem back in Hezekiah's day.

Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/06/16 04:52 PM

Elle said,

"I am glad to see that you at least took Rev 16:12 symbolically and you are not expecting a LITERAL and PHYSICAL fulfillment. That’s good and I think it is a correct Biblical approach to see TYPES being fulfilled Spiritually and not literally or physically."



If the Medes and the Persians were the Physical types and the "Kings of the East" are the spiritual fulfillment/anti types, how is it that the "Kings of the East" of Revelation can be the "LITERAL and PHYSICAL" nations of China and Russia?

Would it not conform to your own logic better if the "Kings of the East" were interpreted "Spiritually" as the Father and Son?


"For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall."
Malachi 4:1-2

Note, the Sun rises in the East.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/07/16 04:42 PM

My comment: Below is a link to a Peter Schiff book promotion. Not that I'm promoting buying his book, but it is the blur and the brief interview that I wanted to bring forth.

"China has decided to take the hit for owning US Treasuries now and is getting rid of them, while they still have some value. When the fiat dollar collapses, they will not be left with a lot of useless Treasuries that they will have to sell, because it will only drag their own currency down. When the dollar collapses, and the revaluation is done, the Chinese yuan will be far stronger without any dollars clinging to it. Wall Street, of course, isn’t speaking about this." by Jaines Haines

I think Peter has a good sense of what is going on. To my view, it may be a little sensationalize to bring fear; but for sure there is an economic collapse heading our way as all signs points to it. But I believe that China has no intention on the long run to destroy the US economy nor anyone else. They are for promoting fair trade and China needs the existence of other countries to trade with. What China wants is reform and giving a voice to all countries in the political and economic decisions which I think is reasonable aim and request.

So Peter Schiff's warning is that China is selling all their US treasury bonds(=US debt). It is true that China have been selling increasingly the US bonds and we have seen an article about this last fall. And maybe they have solde recently all their US bonds. I have seen reported that they plan this Spiring to "depeg" the Chinese Yuan to the US dollar. These actions makes all economic sense for their sake with also the hoarding of Gold this past 10 years so to back their currencies with. And I do believe the current fiat money system will crash.

But what I want us to keep also in mind is what Willem Midelkoop pointed out in post#179400 that China are smart business minded people. They are extremely patient -- planning far ahead with small settle moves. China also have as personal interest to keep all the countries viable so to have people to trade with. Thus I believe China, while the crashing of the old fiat money system moves forward -- I believe there's also a transition plan for everyone to the new system so to keep the US and other countries viable trading partners. For sure some countries currencies will take a major beating, certainly if they have no gold to back it up. China was straight forward with everyone since 2010 and I would imaging sooner, that the reform included to have the issued currencies needed to be backed by gold. So many countries, mostly the western countries, will suffer major devaluation of their currencies. However, with an honest just proper system in place any country can rise up again.

So Peter Schiff does talk about the China's transition plan like Willem Midelkoop does; however what Peter shares about the seriousness of China selling US Bonds is very true.

China's Big Treasury Dump Should Scare Americans


http://realcrash2016.com/china-treasury-...medium=referral

BUSINESS WIRES By Wall Street Daily
Monday March 7, 2016

Quote:
America just received a disturbing reminder.

The reminder? China controls the United States’ fate as a solvent and functioning country.

China was a net seller of U.S. Treasuries for the first time in history last year. The rogue nation liquidated $292 billion in Treasury debt, along with $92 billion in U.S. stocks.

Without China’s ongoing commitment to Treasuries, the U.S. federal government couldn’t service its debt.

In such a scenario, Uncle Sam’s subsequent default would tip the country into lawlessness and chaos.

Imagine not having police or fire rescue on duty? Or your local bank being set ablaze during the ensuing Armageddon.

According to bestselling author Peter Schiff, America will soon face the darkest period in its 240-year history, and China could spark the crisis.

“This is an important trend that people are overlooking,” said Schiff in a recent interview with Wall Street Daily. “If China isn’t there to loan us money, where’s the funding going to come from?”

Schiff is renowned for being the most accurate forecaster of the 2008 Financial Crisis.

But now he’s warning that China’s Treasury dump could trigger a system-wide federal collapse.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/08/16 12:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
So to apply this to the fall of Babylon

type: the euphrates river which was the life stream of Old Babylon. It was diverted and dried up so the Kings of the East was able to enter the highly walled and guarded city via the river, to conquer it.
Antitype : the life steam of Mystery Babylon is its ability to issue their own currency and charge interest(usury which is against the Lord's laws). Currency comes from the root word current like the current of a river. So the Kings of the East has diverted the river(by means of an alternative banking system and reform of currency to have gold backing and etc...) and Lord is drying up the life stream(current-cy) of Mystery Babylon to give way for the Kings of the East to conquer it.
So are you saying "currency" is "spiritual"?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/08/16 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
So to apply this to the fall of Babylon

type: the euphrates river which was the life stream of Old Babylon. It was diverted and dried up so the Kings of the East was able to enter the highly walled and guarded city via the river, to conquer it.
Antitype : the life steam of Mystery Babylon is its ability to issue their own currency and charge interest(usury which is against the Lord's laws). Currency comes from the root word current like the current of a river. So the Kings of the East has diverted the river(by means of an alternative banking system and reform of currency to have gold backing and etc...) and Lord is drying up the life stream(current-cy) of Mystery Babylon to give way for the Kings of the East to conquer it.
So are you saying "currency" is "spiritual"?


It's a Spiritual application and interpretation. You may disagree with it and be led with another like dedication and ProdigalSon has done. That's ok. We all need to exercise to hear the Lord's small voice and understanding what He is doing with the current events and why(which laws is He applying? and etc...). There's no harm in trying to know the Lord and His ways. This is what makes us grow spiritually. I won't be casting stones at dedication or Prodigalson if there interpretation is wrong and I hope they won't for me either. We all are false prophets for our understanding is not complete and limited. The stones to be cast is at ourselves and put to death that false prophet in our mind that often speaks presumptuously.

But I arrived to agree with this interpretation because to my discernment current world affairs points to such interpretation. This is one purpose of this discussion and collecting major events. So we can all watch and learn together from the events that is surfacing.

The fulfillment of this prophesy by the Lord Sovereignty behind the events will determine its interpretation.

Physical TYPE :
The Euphrates river came in / out of Old Babylon. It was via the drying of the river that made way for the Kings of the East to conquer Old Babylon.

Spiritual Antitype :
The fiat money(currencies) is what comes in / out of Mystery Babylon today. Fiat money is the life stream of Mystery Babylon. Amchel Rothschild said "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws,"

Today we are seeing there is a currency war by which will probably soon be ending since the IMF and the central banks has finally comply (not willingly) in Jan 2016 to implement the gold backed reformed pushed by China and other nations since 2010. This means : No more printing money to infinity & beyond and a coming re-evaluation of countries currency value. This and the current market collapse and oil glut fiasco and etc... all are contributing to a currency(Petro-dollar fiat money) "drying up" phenomena.

It may not be by coincidence that the word currency derives from the word current.

Currency : 1650s, "condition of flowing," from Latin currens, present participle of currere "to run" (see current (adj.)); the sense of a flow or course extended 1699 (by John Locke) to "circulation of money."
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/09/16 12:15 AM


Elle, perhaps you missed this question in my previous post? I wonder if you could expand on how the fulfillment of type (physical/literal) can also be (physical/literal) when your interpretive method states they must be "fulfilled Spiritually and not literally or physically."



Elle said,

"I am glad to see that you at least took Rev 16:12 symbolically and you are not expecting a LITERAL and PHYSICAL fulfillment. That’s good and I think it is a correct Biblical approach to see TYPES being fulfilled Spiritually and not literally or physically."



If the Medes and the Persians were the Physical types and the "Kings of the East" are the spiritual fulfillment/anti types, how is it that the "Kings of the East" of Revelation can be the "LITERAL and PHYSICAL" nations of China and Russia?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/10/16 05:50 AM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne

Elle, perhaps you missed this question in my previous post? I wonder if you could expand on how the fulfillment of type (physical/literal) can also be (physical/literal) when your interpretive method states they must be "fulfilled Spiritually and not literally or physically."

Sorry for missing your post. That's a very good question and point. I'm glad you brought it up.

I had never reflected on this much but I do understand what you mean as I have noticed what you have said in some instances. Give me some time to think about it and put together some good examples of different cases.

Basically what I’m seeing is that it all depends. I know its not a type of answer that we want to hear. Some spiritual NT equivalence of the OT laws or prophecies are totally spiritual, while others have some sort of physical manifestation. Then not all the words in a statement have a NT spiritual equivalence.

It is by looking at other scriptures that defines what is the NT equivalence of a certain term or symbol. Then there are some rare cases you cannot find any other scripture references. In all, it is the Holy Spirit that gives anyone the interpretation. While pondering, there’s room for speculating its meaning as long as we treat it as speculation and not as truth and open for the guidance of the Holy Spirit to be corrected during that time until it is confirmed by 2 witnesses. And if you read from someone an interpretation, then you need to chew on it, do your own verification and studying of the word while presenting it to the Holy Spirit to confirm it. If it is not confirmed; we need to reject it. No one is at liberty to define any interpretation.

This is how we learn to develop an ear to hear the voice of the Lord and become familiar with His laws and test doctrines and interpretation with it. This is the whole purpose of all of this by which is a lifetime exercise that is our Christian Duty to engage as James and Ellen has counseled us.

A list of examples would help a lot and might give us some indication if there’s some pattern to identify or not any at all.

Give me a week or so to come back to you.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/11/16 04:35 AM

Thank you Elle. It's a fascinating area of study.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/12/16 05:14 PM

My comment: On March 10th the ECB(Europe Central Banks) announced what was later termed by financial critics as the "Bazooka Money Creation".

Draghi Delivers The Bazooka: ECB Announces Surprise Refi, Marginal Rate Cuts; Boosts QE To €80BN, Adds IG Bonds

Bix Weir commented that for a few weeks the rigging engines will keep things in check but coming end of March and April that's when the Chaos will hit.

A "Watch what the Lord does on Feast Dates" proposed Exercise : I'm only proposing as an exercise to only take note what dates major events hits the news. Note how significant news and the stock crash hit on Mid January. From that point, it seems to been keeping steady. I do expect that the news & events intensity will pick up in April. So Bix Weir forecast of the effect of the ECB's Bazooka aligns with this. On top of this, we have seen some hinting news that China might announce a gold currency backing or other big news in April.

Then later I expect the news will pick up again in July and then again in the fall. This seems to be the overall pattern each year that I have noticed these past 3 years because Stephen Jones was watching these dates as the Lord seems to take pleasure to make things happen around the Feasts dates.

Yearly Watch Dates

Jan 15 -- is a "Passover type of date" being the 15th day of the 1st month on the Julian calendar. Steven Jones says that the Lord wants us to watch these "Feasts date-type on the Julian calendar" as the Lord gives us clues(signs) of what He will do when the actual Feast date comes.

Abib 15 -- is Passover, we are to watch what happens.

July 1,10,15,22 -- is a 7th month "type" giving us clues(signs) what will happen when the Fall Feast turns over.

7th Month from the Abib month -- we are to watch what happens on the 1st, 10, 15, & 22 which are the Fall Feast dates.


Bix Weir: ECB "Bazooka Money Creation" will translate into MASSIVE CHAOS

Quote:
From Bix Weir email:

The ECB’s announcement this morning of “Bazooka Money Creation” will translate into MASSIVE CHAOS in the weeks ahead. Central Bank panic moves never end up solving the problems. Currently the markets are on a computer rigged lock down with the riggers exercising full control of everything that may go “wonky” as it relates to the financial markets.

“Case in Point: Rumors that Deutsche Bank may be hit hard by the ECB actions has sent their stock soaring 4% on the announcement…a sure sign that they are in desperate trouble!

But the calm and cool control will change during the second half of March.

Many people have asked if Roota’s 2016 Timeline is still on track given the amount of control being exercised on market pricing lately. How could it be that the markets deteriorate so fast from where we are today?

Yes, the Timeline is 100% on track. I even talked about the current situation expected in early March…

“First Half of March: Market volatility will pick up speed the first few weeks of March as the financial data reported is not improving and everyone will start thinking about 1st quarter results…which will be devastating. Expect the stock market rigging mechanism to keep that barometer in check for as long as they can. Gold and silver will start to finally perk up as the riggers try to slowly let their control mechanisms loose…just a bit.”

It is the Second Half of March and the entire month of April that the Chaos hits hard with the final END GAME transpiring throughout the remainder of the year.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/12/16 05:53 PM

Monsanto may lose European license for products with glyphosate

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...ith-glysophate/

Mar 09, 2016

Quote:
A big battle is being fought in Europe over Monsanto’s Roundup, which contains the chemical glysophate. It has been shown to be a carcinogen, but Monsanto’s political power is being opposed by scientists from around Europe. Many nations have already banned Roundup, but Europe’s decision will be a major key to Monsanto’s future.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/bad-day-monsanto-good-day-public-health-europe/

Quote:
A battle of corporate profit vs people’s needs has been fought out at the European Union over the past two days as heated negotiations took place about the re-licencing of a chemical that probably causes cancer in humans. It just so happens that this very same chemical makes millions in profit for the giant chemical and seed company Monsanto.

For now, neither side has emerged victorious as the decision about whether to relicense glyphosate, which was due to be voted on today, has been postponed until May….

Concerns about the safety of glyphosate were corroborated by the World Health Organisation’s 2015 breakthrough study finding glyphosate to be “probably carcinogenic to humans”.

This serious threat to public health was behind the decision of a number of member states including France, Sweden and Italy to announce in recent days that they would be voting against the relicensing of glyphosate. It also drove 1.5million people to sign Avaaz’s petition urging the EU not to relicense it.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/12/16 06:31 PM


Elle I notice that you sometimes post news items that I personally would not be researching on the Sabbath. I read this thread during Sabbath because it generally pertains to prophetic events.

I realize that you do not believe the traditional Seventh Day Adventist teachings, I am curious, do you keep the seventh day Sabbath?

It is not my intention to start a debate on the topic, I am just wondering what your belief is concerning the Sabbath?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/12/16 06:59 PM

The King of Babylon indicted for fraud

by Stephen Jones
Mar 09, 2016

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...cted-for-fraud/

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The demise of the Babylonian system is becoming apparent now as France is pushing ahead with an indictment for fraud against Baron David de Rothschild.

http://tapnewswire.com/2016/03/rothschil...ild-indictment/

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“Last year, Baron David de Rothschild was indicted by the French government after he was accused of fraud in a scheme that allegedly embezzled large sums of money from British pensioners.

“It has taken many years to bring this case against Rothschild and his company the Rothschild Financial Services Group, which trapped hundreds of pensioners in a bogus loan scheme between the years of 2005 and 2008.

“One by one the pensioners lost their money and pressed charges against the notorious banker, beginning a case that would take many years to get even an indictment.

“In June, Paris-based liaison judge Javier Gómez Bermudez ruled that Rothschild must face a trial for his crimes, and ordered local police to seek him out in his various mansions that are spread throughout the country….

“While news of a single Rothschild being indicted is certainly noteworthy, a particularly important announcement was made this Friday [March 4, 2016].

“The French government announced that it has launched an investigation into the entire Swiss branch of the Rothschild’s banking empire.”


Interestingly, the article goes on to tell us that the Rothschilds have moved their base of operations to America in order to take advantage of its tax haven status. It appears that this allows them more secrecy by not having to report their affairs to government authorities. We can only wonder how it is that America would become the tax haven of choice.

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“The Rothschild empire has been instrumental in helping move the global elite’s wealth from traditional tax havens like the Bahamas, Switzerland and the British Virgin Islands to the U.S.

“Last month, the Free Thought Project reported on the above the law tax haven established inside the United States by the Rothschilds.

“After opening a trust company in Reno, Nev., Rothschild & Co. began ushering the massive fortunes of the world’s most wealthy individuals out of typical tax havens, and into the Rothschild run U.S. trusts, which are exempt from the international reporting requirements.

“The Rothschild banking dynasty is a family line that has been accused of pulling the political strings of many different governments through their control of various economic systems throughout the world.”


The Rothschild dynasty’s founder, Mayer Amschel Rothschild, set up his family trust before he died in 1812. He was essentially the father of modern banking, and his alliance with the Vatican fulfilled the rise of the second (banking) beast in Revelation 13. I have wondered for years how long this alliance would last and how long it would be before it fell before the power of the “kings of the east.” It appears that the answer is about 200 years, or perhaps more specifically, 204 years from 1812-2016.

The Great Pyramid appears on the back of the US dollar. It shows only 13 layers to indicate the 13 original colonies (and also the secret Council of 13 running the show). But the Great Pyramid actually has 203 layers of rock. The 204th is the capstone which was rejected by the builders and never placed on the top of the pyramid. It represents Christ (Psalm 118:22).

Perhaps we are now nearing the time when the Capstone will be put in place.


My comment : Stephen's view of the meaning of the number 204 and its relationship with the pyramid is detailed below.

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Psalm 119 and the Number 204

The significance of the number 204 is seen in Psalm 119, which is a psalm celebrating the Word of God. The psalm has 22 sections, one for each of the 22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet. Letters make up words, so this is how the psalmist celebrates the Word of God.

There are ten specific words used in this psalm, each describing the Word of God in some manner:

1.Way (derek)

2.Testimonies (eduth)

3.Precepts (pikkudim)

4.Commandments (mizvah)

5.Word (imrah)

6.Law (torah)

7.Judgment (mishpat)

8.Righteousness (zedek)

9.Statute (hok and hukka)

10.Word(s) (dabar)

The theme of Psalm 119 is found in verse 160, “the sum of Thy word is truth.” In other words, all ten words represent the totality of the Word, even as the 22 letters make up the total alphabet used to create those words. Ten is also the number of the law, seen most clearly in the fact that there are Ten Commandments to summarize the mind and character of God that is our righteous standard.

Those ten different words listed above are used 204 times in Psalm 119. As we will see, number 204 speaks of Christ, the Word (Logos) of God through whom all things were created (John 1:1-4).

As the Creator, He also is the Head (Col. 1:18).


The Great Pyramid and Number 204

The Great Pyramid in Egypt has 203 layers of stone. The 204th layer was the Capstone, which was never placed on the top, because it was rejected by the builders (Ps. 118:22). The Pyramid, known originally as Pa-Hanoch, or “Pillar of Enoch,” was constructed as a scale model of the earth in its dimensions. Its weight was 5,300,000 tons, which is one quadrillionth the weight of the earth.

The four sides are not perfectly flat, but curved. Its curvature is precisely the curvature of the earth itself. If we measure from corner to corner in a straight line, the distance is 365.242 Sacred Cubits. This number happens to be the precise length of a solar year (365.242 days).

The Pyramid was deliberately built slightly too small for the Capstone to fit properly. By design, the perimeter at its base should have been 36,524 inches, but it was only 36,238 inches. It was 286.1 inches short. As a symbol of the earth, the Pyramid was thus seen to fall short of the glory of God so that the Capstone, representing Christ, was too big to fit on the Pyramid. This is why the Capstone was rejected and never set in its place (Psalm 118:22).

Hence, built into the structure of the Pyramid is the truth of man’s condition after the fall of Adam. Yet Abraham was called out of Ur of the Chaldees precisely 286.1 Sabbath years from Adam (2003 years).

The angle of the passage system in the Pyramid is 26 deg. 18 min. 9.63 sec. Using the location of the Pyramid as our reference point, a line drawn northeast at that angle runs through Bethlehem, where Jesus was born.

In fact, the distance from the Pyramid to Bethlehem is 2139 furlongs. The Pyramid dates itself astronomically in the year 2141 B.C., so we see that 2139 furlongs is also the measure of years until Jesus was born in 2 B.C.

The Great Pyramid was referenced in Isaiah 19:19, 20,

19 In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the Lord near its border. 20 And it will become a sign and a witness to the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to the Lord because of oppressors, and He will send them a Savior and a Champion, and He will deliver them.

The Great Pyramid of Gizeh is located in the midst of the land of Egypt at the ancient border between Upper and Lower Egypt. In fact, Gizeh means “border.”

The numeric value of the two verses above, taken by adding up the numeric values of every letter, is 5449. The precise height of the Great Pyramid is 5449 Pyramid Inches, which is its internal measuring system. Our modern inch is almost identical (.999 Pyramid Inches).

So there is no doubt that Isaiah was referring to the Great Pyramid when prophesying of the deliverance of Egypt from their “oppressors.” Egypt has a promise of deliverance in Christ, which has yet to be fulfilled.

There are 153 layers of stone from the bottom up to the King’s Chamber, and another 50 above that for a total of 203. Thus, the numbers (153 + 50) prophesy of the sons of God (153) needing the Jubilee (50) in order to reach the top of the Pyramid where the Capstone is to be placed.

So the Capstone on the Great Pyramid was the 204th layer of stone, representing Christ, the “head of the corner” (Ps. 118:22). It was never put in place, because the Pyramid was built 286.1 inches too small. This created a BREACH, even as the rejection of Jesus as Messiah created a breach in the New.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/12/16 07:38 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne

Elle I notice that you sometimes post news items that I personally would not be researching on the Sabbath. I read this thread during Sabbath because it generally pertains to prophetic events.

I realize that you do not believe the traditional Seventh Day Adventist teachings, I am curious, do you keep the seventh day Sabbath?

It is not my intention to start a debate on the topic, I am just wondering what your belief is concerning the Sabbath?


Yes, I pretty much keep the Sabbath like most Adventist.

However, I know that this is not really the true Biblical meaning of the Sabbath especially for the Levites and the Priesthood who worked for the Lord more on the Sabbath than any other days.

My understanding of the Sabbath is still very short. BTW I intend to come back to the Sabbath discussion later after I finish other posting in other discussions that does lead to the Sabbath question raised at the end of page 11 in the Are the Feast Days & Sabbaths still binding? discussion.

But for now, Myron's comments with scriptures on AO about the meaning of the Sabbath is a good brief explanation of my current understanding of the Sabbath up to now.

In brief, I do not believe any of the Sabbaths laws are nail to the cross; nor do I believe any other laws(Priesthood, Feasts & sacrificial) are either.

The challenge presented is to know the Lord's mind, intend, and NT application of all these Sabbath laws(7th day, 7th year, 7th Millennium, the 7 Feast Sabbath days, and the Jubilee) in the Millennium and ages to come.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/13/16 12:51 AM

Thanks Elle, I appreciate your candor.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/13/16 04:08 PM

My comment: I'm not trying to influence anyone regarding the coming election. But only wanted to point out this very interesting phenomena that I think these two articles expressed correctly what is going on. It is about the US Aristocracy(with Mystery Babylon) versus the People. Probably this rise of Donald Trump could be to put an end in the election corruption and remove those Aristocracy in power. I don't know if he's going to win or even make it alive to the end of the election. And if he makes it, then looks like Ben Carson will have an active hand or say in the Education and Health Care system. Then Sanders looks like a good choice too. I just wanted to note to watch this interesting phenomena to see what the Lord is trying to accomplish with it. And to me, it seems He's trying to destroy another section of Mystery Babylon's.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-12/nassim-taleb-sums-americas-election-17-black-swan-words


"People are not voting for Trump (or Sanders). People are just voting, finally, to destroy the establishment."

====================================

This Election Is The Biggest Threat To The US Aristocracy (Biggest Opportunity For Voters) Since At Least 1932

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-12...ters-least-1932

March 12, 2016
Authored by Eric Zuesse,

"The historical significance of the 2016 U.S. Presidential contest isn’t yet generally recognized. Consider the evidence regarding this historical significance, in the links that will be provided here, and from which the argument here is constructed:

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For the first time ever, a Republican campaign ad against Hillary Clinton is entirely truthful about her and focuses on the most important issue facing voters:



For the first time since 1932, an American Presidential campaign presents an opportunity for the public to overthrow the aristocracy.

And, for the first time in U.S. history, a realistic possibility exists that the voters’ choice between the two Parties’ Presidential nominees might turn out to be between two enemies of the aristocracy: Bernie Sanders versus Donald Trump.
However, if it turns out instead to be between Trump v. Clinton, then what will be the aristocratic backing of each?


"On Clinton’s side will be Wall Street — and this includes the ‘shadow banks’ (the non-“bank” sellers of what Bill Clinton and the Republicans caused to become unregulated credit derivatives), from which Hillary Clinton is also receiving donations, and from which the Clinton Foundation is supported and overseen — along with other Clinton funders).

"Clearly, this is the first Presidential contest since 1932 in which the interests of the aristocracy versus the interests of the public will be presented to the voters, for them to decide which of the two sides they’re actually on.

"And, if the election turns out to be between Trump versus Sanders, then this will be the first U.S. Presidential election ever in which both of the major-Party nominees will have committed themselves to policies (Trump clearly on foreign affairs, Sanders clearly on domestic affairs) that the aristocracy vigorously oppose, and that presents a severe threat to the aristocrats' continued rule of the country.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/14/16 10:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
So to apply this to the fall of Babylon

type: the euphrates river which was the life stream of Old Babylon. It was diverted and dried up so the Kings of the East was able to enter the highly walled and guarded city via the river, to conquer it.
Antitype : the life steam of Mystery Babylon is its ability to issue their own currency and charge interest(usury which is against the Lord's laws). Currency comes from the root word current like the current of a river. So the Kings of the East has diverted the river(by means of an alternative banking system and reform of currency to have gold backing and etc...) and Lord is drying up the life stream(current-cy) of Mystery Babylon to give way for the Kings of the East to conquer it.
So are you saying "currency" is "spiritual"?


It's a Spiritual application and interpretation.
...
The fulfillment of this prophesy by the Lord Sovereignty behind the events will determine its interpretation.

Physical TYPE :
The Euphrates river came in / out of Old Babylon. It was via the drying of the river that made way for the Kings of the East to conquer Old Babylon.

Spiritual Antitype :
The fiat money(currencies) is what comes in / out of Mystery Babylon today. Fiat money is the life stream of Mystery Babylon. Amchel Rothschild said "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws,"


In your response to ProdigalOne:
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Basically what I’m seeing is that it all depends.


So, would you be saying that physical things can be spiritual, depending?

Depending upon what? Who's interpretation?

Do you see some contradictions here? If not, do you see some lack of definitions, then?


Another example:
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Yes, I pretty much keep the Sabbath like most Adventist.

However, I know that this is not really the true Biblical meaning of the Sabbath especially for the Levites and the Priesthood who worked for the Lord more on the Sabbath than any other days.
...
In brief, I do not believe any of the Sabbaths laws are nail to the cross; nor do I believe any other laws(Priesthood, Feasts & sacrificial) are either.

You keep the Sabbath even though it's not the really meaning/(way?) but you don't believe any old testament laws were nailed to the cross?

Huh?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/15/16 01:33 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Basically what I’m seeing is that it all depends.


So, would you be saying that physical things can be spiritual, depending?

Depending upon what? Who's interpretation?

Do you see some contradictions here? If not, do you see some lack of definitions, then?

No contradiction whatsoever.

The spiritual fulfillment of a law or prophecy remains spiritual whether the end fulfillment is either spiritual or physical. Like the heart circumcision is a spiritual end product fulfillment versus Jesus being a physical end product fulfillment of the Passover lamb. The facts remains that in both of these examples -- the Law had a spiritual fulfillment of the literal/physical law.

What depends is whether or not the spiritual fulfillment will be in a physical form, or spiritual form or at time I have some example where they are both. This is what I meant where it depends. And I do not think we will see some type of formulas, patterns, or anything man can calculate so he can say "well all these type of categories of laws or prophecies will have a spiritual fulfillment in a physical form while these will have a spiritual form". I'm sure we can see some little pattern here and there, but I think there will always be many instances where the pattern is broken. Just like categorizing animals. We can find some similar characteristics and group them in a category, but you will always find some animals that just doesn't fit completely anywhere. So I don't think we can rely on any man formulas to figure things out.

And this conclusion fits well to say that it is the Lord who made it so. So that we will always need to depend on His Spirit. Even if we think we have it figured it out.... as I said all interpretation depends on the Holy Spirit. No man is at liberty to put their own interpretation on nothing. End of story. That's why I will express myself as "according to my understanding" and will provide scriptures and types from where I got that understanding. My interpretation of these scriptures and types may be wrong or not complete. But at least I am not relying on my opinions. My bases for my interpretation is always on at least 2 biblical sources. But that doesn't means I have it all right. And that's the purpose of discussion for it would be nice to have feedback from someone that studies scriptures seriously and can address where in my understanding is not sound.

If you hear an interpretation from anyone, or even the word from Moses or Paul. We all have a duty to do a thorough investigation of the matter by verify all other sources of the Bible under the Holy Spirit guidance, and chew the matter down and let the Holy Spirit confirm, elaborate, filter what needs to be filtered, give an application for your situation, give an understanding in relations to another subject,....etc. I'm not saying Moses or Paul's words are wrong, I'm saying any word from the Bible or any speaker, prophet, church doctrines, or signs from events out there needs to be guided by the Holy Spirit. No man is at liberty to arrive at their own definition, interpretation, or application. If so you are not eating Jesus' flesh, you are eating another man's flesh.

Originally Posted By: kland
You keep the Sabbath even though it's not the really meaning/(way?) but you don't believe any old testament laws were nailed to the cross? Huh?

I keep the Sabbath as far as I understand the NT Sabbath meaning to be. As I said I acknowledge my understanding is lacking, and do not know the full spiritual application of it especially in the coming Millennium. So I keep it to the extend of my understanding. When the Lord will reveal more, I will be able to keep more of what I understand. I can only go to the point of what is reveal to me. Anything beyond that is presumptuous.

However, I'm sure I do things some in the Church might not do and it is based on my current understanding of the Sabbath. For example I have always removed any correction time my children might have during the Sabbath even before I understood about the Jubilee law. When the Sabbath day is over, my children's correction will resume. Of course no work-choirs for my children. Another thing, I will not judge(that leads to a correction) a serious matter on the Sabbath. And my time is devoted to serve them, my brothers and sisters, or any strangers in any form the Lord leads me. This is my "Levitical work" during the Sabbath. If I want to physically do some "lay activity" then I'll do that on another day. The purpose of any Sabbaths is to set the captives free.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/18/16 05:41 PM

My comment : The content of Hillary's secret emails are quite revealing :
a) linking who(banking oligarch) wanted Qaddafi dead,
b) why? -- to put an end to Qaddafi's gold backed banking system plans for Arab's and African's countries and
c)while the opportunity presents itself -- take all his gold.

"It was not a personal decision of Hillary Clinton to eliminate Qaddafi and destroy his entire state infrastructure. The decision, it’s now clear, came from circles very high in the US money oligarchy. She was merely another Washington political tool implementing the mandate of those oligarchs. The intervention was about killing Qaddafi’s well-laid plans to create a gold-based African and Arabic currency to replace the dollar in oil trades. Since the US dollar abandoned gold exchange for dollars in 1971 the dollar in terms of gold has dramatically lost value. Arab and African OPEC oil states have long objected to the vanishing purchasing power of their oil sales, mandated since the 1970’s by Washington to be solely in US dollars, as dollar inflation soared more than 2000% to 2001."

Hillary Emails, Gold Dinars and Arab Springs

http://journal-neo.org/2016/03/17/hillary-emails-gold-dinars-and-arab-springs/

March 17th 2016

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Buried amid tens of thousands of pages of former US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s secret emails, now being made public by the US Government, is a devastating email exchange between Clinton and her confidential adviser, Sid Blumenthal. It’s about Qaddafi and the US-coordinated intervention in 2011 to topple the Libyan ruler. It’s about gold and a potentially existential threat to the future of the US dollar as world reserve currency. It’s about Qaddafi’s plans then for the gold-based Dinar for Africa and the Arab oil world.

Two paragraphs in a recently declassified email from the illegal private server used by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during the US-orchestrated war to destroy Libya’s Qaddafi in 2011 reveal a tightly-held secret agenda behind the Obama Administration’s war against Qaddafi, cynically named “Responsibility to Protect.”

Barack Obama, an indecisive and weak President, delegated all presidential responsibility for the Libya war to his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton. Clinton, who was an early backer of an Arab “regime change,” using the secret Muslim Brotherhood, invoked the new, bizarre principle of “responsibility to protect” (R2P) to justify the Libyan war, which she quickly turned into a NATO-led war. Under R2P, a silly notion promoted by the networks of George Soros’ Open Society Foundations, Clinton claimed, with no verifiable proof, that Qaddafi was bombing innocent Libyan civilians in the Benghazi region.

According to a New York Times report at the time, citing Obama Administration senior sources, it was Hillary Clinton, backed by Samantha Power, then a senior aide at the National Security Council and today Obama’s UN Ambassador; and Susan Rice, then Obama’s ambassador to the United Nations, and now National Security Adviser. That triad pushed Obama into military action against Libya’s Qaddafi. Clinton, flanked by Powers and Rice, was so powerful that Clinton managed to overrule Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Tom Donilon, Obama’s national security adviser, and John Brennan, Obama’s counterterrorism chief, today CIA head.

Secretary of State Clinton was also knee-deep in the conspiracy to unleash what came to be dubbed the “Arab Spring,” the wave of US-financed regime changes across the Arab Middle East, part of the Greater Middle East project unveiled in 2003 by the Bush Administration after occupation of Iraq. The first three target countries of that 2011 US “Arab Spring”–an action in which Washington used its “human rights” NGOs such as Freedom House and National Endowment for Democracy, in cahoots as usual, with the Open Society Foundations of billionaire speculator, George Soros, along with US State Department and CIA operatives–were Ben Ali’s Tunisia, Mubarak’s Egypt and Qaddafi’s Libya.

Now the timing and targeting of Washington’s 2011 “Arab Spring” destabilizations of select Middle East states assume a new light in relation to just-released declassified Clinton emails to her private Libya “adviser” and friend, Sid Blumenthal. Blumenthal is the slick lawyer who defended then-President Bill Clinton in the Monika Lewinsky and other sex scandal affairs when Bill was President and facing impeachment.

Qaddafi’s gold dinar

For many it remains a mystery just why Washington decided that Qaddafi personally must be destroyed, murdered, not just sent into exile like Mubarak. Clinton, when informed of Qaddafi’s brutal murder by US-financed Al Qaeda “democratic opposition” terrorists, told CBS news, in a sick, joking paraphrase of Julius Caesar, “We came, we saw, he died,” words spoken by her with a hearty, macabre laugh.

Little is known in the West about what Muammar Qaddafi did in Libya or, for that matter, in Africa and in the Arab world. Now, release of a new portion of Hillary Clinton’s emails as Secretary of State, at the time she was running Obama Administration war on Qaddafi, sheds dramatic new light on the background.

It was not a personal decision of Hillary Clinton to eliminate Qaddafi and destroy his entire state infrastructure. The decision, it’s now clear, came from circles very high in the US money oligarchy. She was merely another Washington political tool implementing the mandate of those oligarchs. The intervention was about killing Qaddafi’s well-laid plans to create a gold-based African and Arabic currency to replace the dollar in oil trades. Since the US dollar abandoned gold exchange for dollars in 1971 the dollar in terms of gold has dramatically lost value. Arab and African OPEC oil states have long objected to the vanishing purchasing power of their oil sales, mandated since the 1970’s by Washington to be solely in US dollars, as dollar inflation soared more than 2000% to 2001.
In a newly declassified Clinton email from Sid Blumenthal to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton dated April 2, 2011, Blumenthal reveals the reason that Qaddafi must be eliminated. Using the pretext of citing an unidentified “high source” Blumenthal writes to Clinton, “According to sensitive information available to this source, Qaddafi’s government holds 143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver… This gold was accumulated prior to the current rebellion and was intended to be used to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar. This plan was designed to provide the Francophone African Countries with an alternative to the French franc (CFA).” That French aspect was only the tip of the Qaddafi gold dinar iceberg.

Golden Dinar and more

During the first decade of this century, Gulf Arab OPEC countries, including Saudi Arabia, Qatar and others, began seriously diverting a significant portion of the revenues from their vast oil and gas sales into state sovereign wealth funds, many based on the success of Norway’s Oil Fund.

Growing discontent with the US War on Terror, with the wars in Iraq and in Afghanistan, and with overall US Middle East policies after September 2001, led most OPEC Arab states to divert a growing share of oil revenues into state-controlled funds rather than trusting it to the sticky fingers of New York and London bankers as had been the custom since the 1970’s when oil prices went through the roof, creating what Henry Kissinger fondly called the “petro-dollar” to replace the gold-backed dollar Washington walked away from on August 15, 1971. The present Sunni-Shi’ite war or clash of civilizations is in fact a result of the US manipulations after 2003 in the region— “divide and rule.”

By 2008 the prospect of sovereign control by a growing number of African and Arab oil states of their state oil and gas revenues was causing serious concern in Wall Street as well as the City of London. It was huge liquidity, in the trillions, they potentially no longer controlled.

The timing of the Arab Spring, in retrospect, increasingly looks tied to Washington and Wall Street efforts to control not only the huge Arab Middle East oil flows. It is now clear it was equally aimed at controlling their money, their trillions of dollars accumulating in their new sovereign wealth funds.

However, as is now confirmed in the latest Clinton-Blumenthal April 2, 2011 email exchange, there was a qualitatively new threat emerging for Wall Street and the City of London “gods of money,” from the African and Arab oil world. Libya’s Qaddafi, Tunisia’s Ben Ali and Mubarak’s Egypt were about to launch a gold-backed Islamic currency independent of the US dollar. I was first told of this plan in early 2012, at a Swiss financial and geopolitical conference, by an Algerian with extensive knowledge of the project. Documentation was scarce at the time and the story remained in my mental back-burner. Now a far more interesting picture emerges that puts the ferocity of Washington’s Arab Spring and its urgency in the case of Libya into perspective.

‘United States of Africa’

In 2009, Qaddafi, who was at the time the President of the African Union, had proposed that the economically depressed continent adopt the “Gold Dinar.”

In the months prior to the US decision, with British and French backing, to get a UN Security Council resolution that would give them the legal fig-leaf for a NATO destruction of the Qaddafi regime, Muammar Qaddafi had been organizing the creation of a gold-backed dinar that would be used by African oil states as well as Arab OPEC countries in their sales of oil on the world market.

Had that happened at the time Wall Street and the City of London were deep into the financial crisis of 2007-2008, the challenge to the reserve currency role of the dollar would have been more than serious. It would be a death knell to American financial hegemony, and to the Dollar System. Africa is one of the world’s richest continents, with vast unexplored gold and mineral wealth, had been intentionally kept for centuries underdeveloped or in wars to prevent their development. The International Monetary Fund and World Bank for the recent decades have been the Washington instruments to suppress African real development.

Gaddafi had called upon African oil producers in the African Union and in Muslim nations to join an alliance that would make the gold dinar their primary form of money and foreign exchange. They would sell oil and other resources to the US and the rest of the world only for gold dinars. As President of the African Union in 2009, Qaddafi introduced for discussion to African Union member states Qaddafi’s proposal to use the Libyan dinar and the silver dirham as the only possible money for the rest of the world to buy African oil.

Along with the Arab OPEC sovereign wealth funds for their oil, other African oil nations, specifically Angola and Nigeria, were moving to create their own national oil wealth funds at the time of the 2011 NATO bombing of Libya. Those sovereign national wealth funds, tied to Qaddafi’s concept of the gold dinar, would make Africa’s long-held dream of independence from colonial monetary control, whether of the British Pound, the French Franc, the euro or the US dollar, a reality.

Qaddafi was moving forward, as head of the African Union, at the time of his assassination, with a plan to unify the sovereign States of Africa with one gold currency, a United States of Africa. In 2004, a Pan-African Parliament of 53 nations had laid plans for an African Economic Community – with a single gold currency by 2023.

African oil-producing nations were planning to abandon the petro-dollar, and demand gold payment for their oil and gas. The list included Egypt, Sudan, South Sudan, Equatorial Guinea, Congo, Democratic Republic of Congo, Tunisia, Gabon, South Africa, Uganda, Chad, Suriname, Cameroon, Mauritania, Morocco, Zambia, Somalia, Ghana, Ethiopia, Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, Cote d’Ivoire, plus Yemen which had just made significant new oil discoveries. The four African member-states of OPEC–Algeria, Angola, Nigeria, a giant oil producer and the largest natural gas producer in Africa with huge natural gas reserves, and Libya with the largest reserves–would be in the new gold dinar system.

Little wonder that French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who was given the up-front role in the war on Qaddafi by Washington, went so far as to call Libya a “threat” to the financial security of the world.

Hillary’s ‘rebels’ create a central bank

One of the most bizarre features of Hillary Clinton’s war to destroy Qaddafi was the fact that the US-backed “rebels” in Benghazi, in the oil-rich eastern part of Libya, in the midst of battle, well before it was at all clear if they would topple the Qaddafi regime, declared they had created a Western-style central bank, “in exile.”

In the very first weeks of the rebellion, the rebel leaders declared that they had created a central bank to replace Gadhafi’s state-owned monetary authority. The rebel council, in addition to creating their own oil company to sell the oil they captured announced: “Designation of the Central Bank of Benghazi as a monetary authority competent in monetary policies in Libya and appointment of a Governor to the Central Bank of Libya, with a temporary headquarters in Benghazi.”

Commenting on the odd decision, before the outcome of battle was even decided, to create a western-style central bank to replace Qaddafi’s sovereign national bank that was issuing gold-backed dinars, Robert Wenzel in the Economic Policy Journal, remarked, “I have never before heard of a central bank being created in just a matter of weeks out of a popular uprising. This suggests we have a bit more than a rag tag bunch of rebels running around and that there are some pretty sophisticated influences.”

It becomes clear now in light of the Clinton-Blumenthal emails that those “pretty sophisticated influences” were tied to Wall Street and the City of London. The person brought in by Washington to lead the rebels in March 2011, Khalifa Hifter, had spent the previous twenty years of his life in suburban Virginia, not far from CIA headquarters, after a break with Libya as a leading military commander of Qaddafi.

The risk to the future of the US dollar as world reserve currency, if Qaddafi had been allowed to proceed–together with Egypt, Tunisia and other Arab OPEC and African Union members– to introduce oil sales for gold not dollars, would clearly have been the financial equivalent of a Tsunami.

New Gold Silk Road

The Qaddafi dream of an Arabic and African gold system independent of the dollar, unfortunately, died with him. Libya, after Hillary Clinton’s cynical “responsibility to protect” destruction of the country, today is a shambles, torn by tribal warfare, economic chaos, al-Qaeda and DAESH or ISIS terrorists. The monetary sovereignty held by Qaddafi’s 100% state-owned national monetary agency and its issuance of gold dinars is gone, replaced by an “independent” central bank tied to the dollar.

Despite that setback, it’s more than notable that now an entirely new grouping of nations is coming together to build a similar gold-backed monetary system. This is the group led by Russia and China, the world’s number three and number one gold producing countries, respectively.

This group is tied to the construction of China’s One Belt, One Road New Silk Road Eurasian infrastructure great project. It involves China’s $16 billion Gold Development Fund, and very firm steps by China to replace the City of London and New York as the center of world gold trade. The Eurasian gold system emerging now poses an entirely new quality of challenge to American financial hegemony. This Eurasian challenge, its success or failure, could well determine whether we allow our civilization to survive and prosper under entirely different conditions, or whether we decide to sink along with the bankrupt dollar system.

F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/30/16 11:07 PM

My comment : News is quiet these days. But looks what's coming this April -- A full-size replica of Baal Temple entrance in New York City and London. Just incredible! Such a bold & up-front statement. The New York Post article (link below) say a thousand of these will be replicated and put in other cities all around the world. Could this be related to what John said in 1Jn 2:18?

The time and the event for New York City will be on "world Heritage" week in April(?? I can't find the date) when they will celebrate the Baal Temple as a sign against world terrorist.

Maybe something major is coming(will start) this April and might continue until the fall feast. I don't know how far they will succeed with this project. My hunch, based on how many failures they have seen with many other of their projects these past years, is this won't go beyond NYC, London and a few other places in Western allied countries like Canada, Japan, and Europe. Really I don't know and I'm not trying to be a prophet here as I've heard nothing. Only a hunch. With time we'll see what the Lord have in mind to accomplish this coming feasts days this year. Let us remember that the Lord is in control and His plans always work together for good.

New York Post & Times article :
http://nypost.com/2015/12/29/3-d-printing-to-bring-syrian-arch-destroyed-by-isis-back-to-life/
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/opinion/sunday/life-among-the-ruins.html?_r=2

You can see a model picture of it at this link : http://theseason.yuku.com/topic/36964#.Vvwh4X0rKt8

Silver doctors published two articles about it. I'm only posting one of them but here's the link of the other article:
http://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/f...over-the-world/

April 2016: The Temple Of Baal Will Be Erected In Times Square In New York City
http://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/w...-new-york-city/
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I realize that the headline of this article sounds like it must be false, but it is actually completely true. The Temple of Baal (also known as the Temple of Bel) was a world famous landmark that was located in Palmyra, Syria. In August 2015, this temple was destroyed by ISIS, and most of the world recoiled in terror at the loss of a “cultural heritage site”. In an attempt to “preserve history”, two exact replicas of the 50 foot arch that stood at the entrance to the temple will be erected in April 2016 in Times Square in New York City and in Trafalgar Square in London. Needless to say, a lot of people are quite disturbed by this. In ancient times, child sacrifice and bisexual orgies were common practices at the altars of Baal, and now we are putting up a monument of worship to this false god in the heart of our most important city.

When I first came across this story, I could hardly believe it. But this is not just some Internet rumor. This was reported by the New York Times…

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NEXT month, the Temple of Baal will come to Times Square. Reproductions of the 50-foot arch that formed the temple’s entrance are to be installed in New York and in London, a tribute to the 2,000-year-old structure that the Islamic Statedestroyed last year in the Syrian town of Palmyra. The group’s rampage through Palmyra, a city that reached its peak in the second and third century A.D., enraged the world, spurring scholars and conservationists into action. Numerous nongovernmental organizations are now cataloging and mapping damaged cultural heritage sites in the region.
Of course most non-religious Americans don’t understand who Baal was, nor do they really care.

But the truth is that many of the elements of ancient Baal worship are being mirrored in our society in 2016. The following is an excerpt from an excellent article by Matt Barber…

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Ritualistic Baal worship, in sum, looked a little like this: Adults would gather around the altar of Baal. Infants would then be burned alive as a sacrificial offering to the deity. Amid horrific screams and the stench of charred human flesh, congregants – men and women alike – would engage in bisexual orgies. The ritual of convenience was intended to produce economic prosperity by prompting Baal to bring rain for the fertility of “mother earth.”

The natural consequences of such behavior – pregnancy and childbirth – and the associated financial burdens of “unplanned parenthood” were easily offset. One could either choose to engage in homosexual conduct or – with child sacrifice available on demand – could simply take part in another fertility ceremony to “terminate” the unwanted child.

Modern liberalism deviates little from its ancient predecessor. While its macabre rituals have been sanitized with flowery and euphemistic terms of art, its core tenets and practices remain eerily similar.


So considering the child sacrifice and sexual immorality that we are engaged in today, perhaps it is only natural for us to have a Temple of Baal in Times Square.

In the ancient world, the names Baal and Bel were often interchangeable, and they both trace back to the ancient Babylonian god Marduk. The following comes from Wikipedia…

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Bel became especially used of the Babylonian god Marduk and when found in Assyrian and neo-Babylonian personal names or mentioned in inscriptions in a Mesopotamian context it can usually be taken as referring to Marduk and no other god. Similarly Belit without some disambiguation mostly refers to Bel Marduk’s spouse Sarpanit. However Marduk’s mother, the Sumerian goddess called Ninhursag, Damkina, Ninmah and other names in Sumerian, was often known as Belit-ili ‘Lady of the Gods’ in Akkadian.


According to research published by Bruce W. Warren and John A. Tvedtnes, Marduk was “a huntergod” that was believed to have been the founder of ancient Babylon according to ancient Babylonian tradition…

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The Akkadian name Marduk derives front the Sumerian MAR.UTU, a huntergod. He is said to have led a revolt of the gods against his parents, after which he was enthroned as king of the gods. In Babylonian tradition, it was he who founded Babylon (Babilu, “gate of the gods”). His temple at Babylon bore the name E.SAGILA, “house that lifts up the head”, and the tower associated with it was called, in Sumerian Etemenanki,“house of the foundation of heaven and earth.” The similarity to the tower of Babel is evident.

If you are familiar with the book of Genesis, this should remind you of Genesis 10:9 where we are told that Nimrod was “a mighty hunter before the Lord”. And ancient Jewish tradition specifically identifies Nimrod as the one that constructed the Tower of Babel. In addition to Marduk, other names from the ancient world that are linked with Nimrod include Ninurta, Gilgamesh, Osiris, Dionysus, Apollo, Narmer and Enmerkar. I know that this can get very confusing. In the following excerpt, Peter Goodgame helps us to connect some of the dots…

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In Part Eight of this study we examined evidence that Nimrod was known in Egypt as King Narmer, who was later deified as the god Osiris, the Lord of the Underworld. In Part Five we looked at evidence that Nimrod was known to the ancient Sumerians as the great King Enmerkar who attempted to build a huge tower to the gods in the ancient city of Eridu—a city referred to as the original “Babylon” by the historian Berossos.[1] Traditionally the Tower of Babel event has been associated with Nimrod, and Jewish commentaries as well as the Jewish historian Josephus both seem very emphatic on this point. Regarding the Sumerian name Enmer-kar, the suffix “kar” means “hunter,” and so “Enmer-kar” is in fact “Enmer the Hunter,” just as Nimrod is referred to as the “Mighty Hunter” in Genesis 10. Furthermore, Enmerkar is named on the Sumerian King List as “the one who built Uruk,” just as Nimrod is described in Genesis 10:10 as having a kingdom that began in “Babel (Eridu) and Erech (Uruk)… in the land of Shinar.” After Enmerkar’s death he became honored in Sumerian myth as the semi-divine hero Ninurta, and eventually this cult evolved into the great cult of Marduk, which became the state religion of Babylon after the conquests and religious innovations of Hammurabi.

According to some traditions, the original Freemason was Nimrod. He created the very first “New World Order” in the post-flood world, and virtually all of the major gods of ancient Babylon, Greece and Rome ultimately trace back to him or traditions surrounding him.

But for many modern occultists, the story of Nimrod is far from done. A lot of secret societies and occult groups have traditions that tell them that Nimrod/Marduk/Osiris/Apollo/Baal will someday be resurrected and will once again rule the world.

And many Bible scholars believe that the coming Antichrist will either be a resurrected Nimrod or will be associated with him in some way. For an extensive examination of this view, I would commend to you The Second Coming of the Antichrist by Peter Goodgame and Babylon Rising by Rob Skiba.

With all of the preceding in mind, could it be possible that we are actually erecting a temple for the Antichrist in New York City next month?

If you are not religious, I know that all of this must sound very strange. But there are occultists that take this stuff deadly seriously, and nothing this large gets space in either Times Square or Trafalgar Square by accident.

There are very powerful people out there that made this happen, and perhaps someone should ask them what their intentions are.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/31/16 02:23 PM

As the Bible clearly states; "they shall not cleave one to another". Many countries will never completely cleave to all the others. But, I do believe that economics is one way the whole world may cleave together.

Everyone supposedly sharing resources with one another and then there will be peace and harmony! Then sudden destruction comes.

With all this talk of the New World Order and the militarization of the world and all, we as Christians need to remember that Babylon will never completely get full control of this planet. It will come close, but, never really get it all.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/08/16 06:39 PM

My comment : The 9th is the 1st day of Abib and the 22nd of April is Passover. We'll watch the news to see what the Lord will fulfill on these days and other feasts days that follows. The news and financial activities should pick up.


Panama Leak

We had on the 3rd of April the "panama papers" which was a leak generated by the elites via US Government-George Soros so that they could use it via Mainstream Media(MSM) against their enemies like Putin, Assad, and others.

The offshore tax evasion by the World Corporation via the help of governments is not any new news. Bernie Saunders raised this issue 5 years ago. The Panama type of corruption allows the wealth to be distributed to the Elites(see Panama: pyramid chart of wealth centralizing & distribution :.7% pop own 45% of the wealth and 8% own 85% of wealth). I won't expand on this but see these links (a general explanation by J.Corbett and Kauilapele blog that brought forth 11 alternative news articles) if you want to have a scoop of what the alternative media says about it versus MSM which is the mouth of Mystery Babylon.


Lost Faith In Central Banks And The Economic End Game

My comment: The article below is a good analysis of the financial news up to today with many links provided in the source document. Basically it is saying the current crash is voluntary and controlled by the IMF and the Fed. I do agree with this article anaysis. I don't know if they plan to crash all central banks to create One single bank to centralize everything so to have more power. Maybe so. But whatever is their plan; it just won't work.

Below are key statements found in the article :

"Something has changed recently, though. Why, for example, did the Fed go against its long-time mandate of manipulating equities into positive territory by committing to the taper of QE3? Why did they then later commit to hiking interest rates, an action they KNEW would cause a massive downturn in stocks?
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Stock markets are in no way a measure of economic health at this time, they are only a measure of investor confidence in central banks, and that confidence is failing in light of extremely negative fundamentals.
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Recently, Wikileaks published a transcript of an internal International Monetary Fund (IMF) discussion that provides some answers. The general thrust of the document shows that the IMF deliberately set the stage for a return to instability in Greece this summer with the intention of destabilizing the EU, and more specifically cornering Germany. The goal? To essentially force the EU to allow the IMF to take a more commanding role in the economic affairs of the supranational body.
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What many people do not seem to understand is that national central banks are expendable in the minds of globalists like those at the IMF.
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If the IMF is engineering a financial crisis in Europe in order to gain more power and influence, why wouldn’t the Fed be doing the same for the IMF in America?

The ONLY explanation that makes sense in terms of the Fed allowing an incremental removal of support from U.S. markets is that their GOAL is to create instability. The jawboning and exploitation of false hopes acts as a kind of steam valve, slowing the crash to a manageable pace.

The loss of faith in central banks and their ability to support dying markets is indeed occurring. However, this is not the whole story. The fact is, the loss of faith is MEANT to happen, and it is useful to globalists at the IMF who now seek to replace hundreds of central bank franchises across the globe with a single governing entity overseeing the financial administration of the entire world. That is to say, the IMF is creating the problem so that they can offer themselves and their authority as a solution.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-07/lost-faith-central-banks-and-economic-end-game

April 7th 2016
Submitted by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,

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We live in strange economic times, stranger perhaps than at any other point in history. Since 2007-2008, the globally intertwined and dependent fiscal system has suffered considerable declines in every conceivable area. Manufacturing around the world is in a slump, from Japan to China to Europe, with the minimal manufacturing accomplished in the U.S. also fading. Consumption is falling, most notably in petroleum and raw materials. Employment is truly dismal, with the U.S. posting over 94 million people as “non-participants” in the national work force.

High paying jobs are disappearing, and the only jobs replacing them are in the low wage service sector. This problem is becoming so pervasive that certain more socialist states including California and New York are attempting to offset the loss of sustainable income jobs by forcing retail and service companies into paying an inflated minimum wage. That is to say, states hope to stop the bloodletting in wages by magically turning low paying jobs into high paying jobs.

As anyone with any economic sense knows, you cannot have a faltering consumer sector in which people are buying less and force service based companies to pay their employees far more per hour than the job is worth. Those companies will simply lay off more employees, cut hours or shut down entire branches of their operations in order to maintain their profit margins. Either that, or those companies will go out of business.

One sector, though, has continued to reap certain benefits (for now), and that is equities. There is a good reason for this.

The stock market is a kind of Pavlovian control mechanism, a mental trigger in the minds of the masses that dominates their perceptions of the world’s financial health. The drooling public sees green lines and they hail impending “recovery;” they see red lines and suddenly they begin to wonder if all is not well. As the former head of the Federal Reserve Dallas branch, Richard Fisher admitted in an interview with CNBC, the U.S. central bank in particular has made its business the manipulation of the stock market to the upside since 2009:

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"What the Fed did — and I was part of that group — is we front-loaded a tremendous market rally, starting in 2009.

It’s sort of what I call the “reverse Whimpy factor” — give me two hamburgers today for one tomorrow.

I’m not surprised that almost every index you can look at … was down significantly."[Referring to the results in the stock market after the Fed raised rates in December.]

Fisher went on to hint at the impending danger:

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I was warning my colleagues, “Don’t go wobbly if we have a 10-20% correction at some point…. Everybody you talk to … has been warning that these markets are heavily priced.”

Central banks have focused most of their efforts on levitating the Dow as well as energy markets for some time now.

Why? Because the general public does not pay attention to any other market indicators. They do not care that equipment giant Caterpillar is having the worst profit period in the company’s history. They do not care that the Baltic Dry Index, a measure of global shipping rates and thus a measure of global orders for raw goods, continues to bounce around well below its original historic lows due to crashing shipping demand. They do not care that according to the World Economic Forum, oil demand has dropped to levels not seen since 1997. They do not know nor do they care to know. Their only barometer for economic danger is the Dow, and central banks know this well.

Something has changed recently, though. Why, for example, did the Fed go against its long-time mandate of manipulating equities into positive territory by committing to the taper of QE3? Why did they then later commit to hiking interest rates, an action they KNEW would cause a massive downturn in stocks?

The jawboning of stocks in March back from the brink actually tells us a lot in terms of the central bank’s intentions. First, it tells us that the Fed does not intend to use tools such as rate cuts and stimulus measures to buy back market optimism. Rather, they are relying solely on investor faith that central banks are not going to leave them high and dry. They have decided to use manipulative language alone, rather than the manipulative monetary policy we have grown accustomed to.

Second, the action of the Fed in raising rates has torn away the veil and shown the public stocks truly cannot survive without central bank support. The moment the Fed leaves markets to their own devices, the only things left for investors to turn to are the fundamentals, and of course the fundamentals are ugly beyond belief. Thus, stocks begin to plummet.

As I point out in my article “Markets Ignore Fundamentals And Chase Headlines Because They Are Dying,” some of the greatest market rallies in U.S. history occurred during the onset of the Great Depression, and all of these rallies were based on a false sense of public faith that recovery was “right around the corner”. The rally this past March is no different. There are no fundamentals to back it, it was built entirely on faith, and soon it will implode as similar rallies did during the Depression.

Just in the past week alone, certain signs are bubbling to the surface to undermine the facade of the recent dubious rally.

For anyone who was betting on oil markets to continue their rally past the $40 per barrel mark, there was a lot of bad news. Saudi Arabia crushed optimism by announcing that it would not be entertaining a “production freeze” proposal unless ALL other oil producing nations, including Iran, also agreed to it.

Iran then doubly crushed optimism by announcing an increase in production rather than committing to a freeze.

Russia then administered the final blow by releasing data showing that their oil output had risen to historic levels, indicating that they will not be entering into any agreement on a production freeze.

Besides a recent overly optimistic (and rather suspicious inventory draw) which has caused a short term rebound, all indicators show that oil will be headed back to the lows seen at the beginning of this year.

Why do oil markets matter? Well, it would seem that stocks for the past few months have been loosely tracking oil. When oil has taken a dramatic turn to the negative, so have stocks. This may be a purely psychological correlation, but that is kind of the point. ALL stock market movements are purely psychological today, and when psychological optimism fails, the fundamentals strike hard. So far, oil is solidly back in volatile territory, and equities are following.

In fact, most of the world is beginning to feel tremors yet again in stocks as central bank meeting and announcements are having less and less affect on positive psychology.

Asian markets were trounced the past week with a return to volatility as Chinese and Japanese central banks were either unable or unwilling to slow the tide. European markets followed, with some market participants coming to terms with the nature of the recent rally:

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“The market is missing confidence,” said Mathias Haege, who helps oversee 300 million euros ($342 million) as managing partner of MaxAlpha Asset Consultant in Frankfurt. “At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what central banks are doing if economic growth doesn’t accelerate and corporate earnings continue to shrink.”

And there you have it. Stock markets are in no way a measure of economic health at this time, they are only a measure of investor confidence in central banks, and that confidence is failing in light of extremely negative fundamentals.

So, I ask again, why have many central banks and the Federal Reserve in particular pulled back from their usual tools (near zero rates and stimulus) at a time when investor faith in the economy is falling?

Recently, Wikileaks published a transcript of an internal International Monetary Fund (IMF) discussion that provides some answers. The general thrust of the document shows that the IMF deliberately set the stage for a return to instability in Greece this summer with the intention of destabilizing the EU, and more specifically cornering Germany. The goal? To essentially force the EU to allow the IMF to take a more commanding role in the economic affairs of the supranational body.

Far too much attention is paid to the criminality of national central banks like the Federal Reserve, but the Federal Reserve is nothing more than a franchise, an appendage of a greater banking syndicate with the IMF, Bank for International Settlements (BIS) and the World Bank leading the way.

What many people do not seem to understand is that national central banks are expendable in the minds of globalists like those at the IMF. They are nothing but institutions on paper. Their true assets are unknown because they have never been audited. They can be destroyed or absorbed on a whim if globalists see greater gains as a result. The Wikileaks documents support the assertions I wrote in my article, “The Economic End Game Explained,” that central banks, led by the IMF and the BIS, are deliberately creating instability in global markets in order to create a crisis large enough to substantiate total centralization of power in the hands of those same institutions.

This should not be news to anyone, but unfortunately it is. Back in 2012 IMF head Christine Lagarde made this revealing statement:

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"When the world around the IMF goes downhill, we thrive. We become extremely active because we lend money, we earn interest and charges and all the rest of it, and the institution does well. When the world goes well and we’ve had years of growth, as was the case back in 2006 and 2007, the IMF doesn’t do so well both financially and otherwise."

If the IMF is engineering a financial crisis in Europe in order to gain more power and influence, why wouldn’t the Fed be doing the same for the IMF in America?

The ONLY explanation that makes sense in terms of the Fed allowing an incremental removal of support from U.S. markets is that their GOAL is to create instability. The jawboning and exploitation of false hopes acts as a kind of steam valve, slowing the crash to a manageable pace.

The loss of faith in central banks and their ability to support dying markets is indeed occurring. However, this is not the whole story. The fact is, the loss of faith is MEANT to happen, and it is useful to globalists at the IMF who now seek to replace hundreds of central bank franchises across the globe with a single governing entity overseeing the financial administration of the entire world. That is to say, the IMF is creating the problem so that they can offer themselves and their authority as a solution.

Just as the international bankers use stimulus and rate policy as tools, so, to, do they use chaos.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/09/16 01:15 AM

The Importance of 2016

My comment : At the bottom half of this post is Stephen Jones prophetic discernment for the year 2016. It is quite interesting.

In the prophetic discernment Stephen makes again some comments about the great pyramid that he also have made on March 9th commenting about the King of Babylon (David Baron de Rothschild) who was being indicted for fraud in France. Stephen noticed that this year, 2016, was exactly 204 years since his grand father Mayer Amschel Rothschild, who was the father of modern banking, set up the Rothschild family trust in 1812.

Then Stephen commented about the number 204 and the pyramid that appears behind the US dollar bill saying:

"It shows only 13 layers to indicate the 13 original colonies (and also the secret Council of 13 running the show). But the Great Pyramid actually has 203 layers of rock. The 204th is the capstone which was rejected by the builders and never placed on the top of the pyramid. It represents Christ (Psalm 118:22)."

In post #179744 I inserted the information about the Great pyramid and its relationship with the number 204 which I re-copied here below.

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Psalm 119 and the Number 204

The significance of the number 204 is seen in Psalm 119, which is a psalm celebrating the Word of God. The psalm has 22 sections, one for each of the 22 letters in the Hebrew alphabet. Letters make up words, so this is how the psalmist celebrates the Word of God.

There are ten specific words used in this psalm, each describing the Word of God in some manner:

1.Way (derek)

2.Testimonies (eduth)

3.Precepts (pikkudim)

4.Commandments (mizvah)

5.Word (imrah)

6.Law (torah)

7.Judgment (mishpat)

8.Righteousness (zedek)

9.Statute (hok and hukka)

10.Word(s) (dabar)

The theme of Psalm 119 is found in verse 160, “the sum of Thy word is truth.” In other words, all ten words represent the totality of the Word, even as the 22 letters make up the total alphabet used to create those words. Ten is also the number of the law, seen most clearly in the fact that there are Ten Commandments to summarize the mind and character of God that is our righteous standard.

Those ten different words listed above are used 204 times in Psalm 119. As we will see, number 204 speaks of Christ, the Word (Logos) of God through whom all things were created (John 1:1-4).

As the Creator, He also is the Head (Col. 1:18).


The Great Pyramid and Number 204

The Great Pyramid in Egypt has 203 layers of stone. The 204th layer was the Capstone, which was never placed on the top, because it was rejected by the builders (Ps. 118:22). The Pyramid, known originally as Pa-Hanoch, or “Pillar of Enoch,” was constructed as a scale model of the earth in its dimensions. Its weight was 5,300,000 tons, which is one quadrillionth the weight of the earth.

The four sides are not perfectly flat, but curved. Its curvature is precisely the curvature of the earth itself. If we measure from corner to corner in a straight line, the distance is 365.242 Sacred Cubits. This number happens to be the precise length of a solar year (365.242 days).

The Pyramid was deliberately built slightly too small for the Capstone to fit properly. By design, the perimeter at its base should have been 36,524 inches, but it was only 36,238 inches. It was 286.1 inches short. As a symbol of the earth, the Pyramid was thus seen to fall short of the glory of God so that the Capstone, representing Christ, was too big to fit on the Pyramid. This is why the Capstone was rejected and never set in its place (Psalm 118:22).

Hence, built into the structure of the Pyramid is the truth of man’s condition after the fall of Adam. Yet Abraham was called out of Ur of the Chaldees precisely 286.1 Sabbath years from Adam (2003 years).

The angle of the passage system in the Pyramid is 26 deg. 18 min. 9.63 sec. Using the location of the Pyramid as our reference point, a line drawn northeast at that angle runs through Bethlehem, where Jesus was born.

In fact, the distance from the Pyramid to Bethlehem is 2139 furlongs. The Pyramid dates itself astronomically in the year 2141 B.C., so we see that 2139 furlongs is also the measure of years until Jesus was born in 2 B.C.

The Great Pyramid was referenced in Isaiah 19:19, 20,

19 In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the Lord near its border. 20 And it will become a sign and a witness to the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt; for they will cry to the Lord because of oppressors, and He will send them a Savior and a Champion, and He will deliver them.

The Great Pyramid of Gizeh is located in the midst of the land of Egypt at the ancient border between Upper and Lower Egypt. In fact, Gizeh means “border.”

The numeric value of the two verses above, taken by adding up the numeric values of every letter, is 5449. The precise height of the Great Pyramid is 5449 Pyramid Inches, which is its internal measuring system. Our modern inch is almost identical (.999 Pyramid Inches).

So there is no doubt that Isaiah was referring to the Great Pyramid when prophesying of the deliverance of Egypt from their “oppressors.” Egypt has a promise of deliverance in Christ, which has yet to be fulfilled.

There are 153 layers of stone from the bottom up to the King’s Chamber, and another 50 above that for a total of 203. Thus, the numbers (153 + 50) prophesy of the sons of God (153) needing the Jubilee (50) in order to reach the top of the Pyramid where the Capstone is to be placed.

So the Capstone on the Great Pyramid was the 204th layer of stone, representing Christ, the “head of the corner” (Ps. 118:22). It was never put in place, because the Pyramid was built 286.1 inches too small. This created a BREACH, even as the rejection of Jesus as Messiah created a breach in the New.


My comment: Now here's the Stephen's latest blog and his prophetic discernment for the year 2016 :

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/04-2016/the-importance-of-2016/

Apr 07, 2016

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2016 corresponds to the Jewish calendar 5776. It is interesting that this date has the number 76 in it, but it is even more significant that 5776 is 76 x 76.

This enhances the importance of the two 76-day [cleansing] cycles that are now ending.

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Occult vs. Kingdom

There are two kingdoms competing for ownership of the world. One is a system of slavery that comes in the guise of liberty, while the other is a system of liberty that has been maligned as a system of slavery. The beast systems promise liberty while they increase their control. The Kingdom of God functions by the divine “law of liberty” (James 2:12), which many have mistakenly assumed is a system of bondage.

But God’s law defines justice in accordance with the divine character/nature. It sets forth the standard by which all righteousness is measured. Only sinners are put into bondage, for the law forbids men to sin, and if they sin against their neighbor, they are required to work to pay their victims. Is that bondage? Yes, of course. How else can justice be established? How else can victims of injustice be repaid and restored?

Who would want to live in a nation that had no laws to guard us from lawless men? Only in a nation of perfected people are laws unnecessary, and this is only because perfect people have the character of God and the law of God is written on their hearts.

The beast systems are run from behind the scenes by wealthy occultists, who think of themselves as “wise men” (magi). They believe that they are above ordinary men and have the right to “manage” others as if they were on the order of cattle. Theirs is a system of slavery and death, for their goal is to reduce the earth’s population to 500 million people. Of course, the plan is to kill off most ordinary people and preserve themselves as the earth’s slave masters.

These men have the heart of beasts, biblically speaking. Yet they have an occult knowledge that is quite remarkable. I believe that their knowledge is demonically inspired. Their knowledge can take them to the apex of their plan in the climax of history, but they are blind to the fact that in the end they will lose. Their plan will fail, and their wise men will look foolish.

The year 2016 is a very important and pivotal year to them. They have planned this year for a very long time. Of course, God has also pre-planned the year 2016 for a very long time. The occultists are trying to manipulate the knowledge of God’s plan in order to benefit themselves and to establish their own power in the earth. In their pride they think they can outsmart God.


The Great Pyramid

Thousands of years ago the Great Pyramid was probably built by Shem, son of Noah, although the internal prophetic dating within the structure dates back to earlier times. Shem later built Jerusalem and set up his city-state, taking the title of Melchizedek, or Adonizedek. In later years the kings of Jerusalem retained his title, but by the time Joshua took Israel into Canaan, the kings had degenerated into rebellion against God. Joshua fought Adonizedek, king of Jerusalem (Joshua 10:1, 3). This Adonizedek was a counterfeit (carnal version) Melchizedek, a fleshly priest-king of Jerusalem, who was an antichrist type.

Anyway, Shem built the Great Pyramid on the knowledge passed down to him from Enoch, and hence, the structure was called Pa-Hanock, or “House of Enoch.” It was built as a witness to God in the land of Egypt, for it is mentioned in Isaiah 19:19, 20,

19 "In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the Lord near its border. 20 And it will become a sign and a witness to the Lord of hosts in the land of Egypt; for they [Egyptians] will cry to the Lord because of oppressors, and He will send them a Savior [Jesus] and a Champion, and He will deliver them.

It stands as a silent witness of God’s word and promise to Egypt, Isaiah tells us, for God will cause the Egyptians to “cry to the Lord… and He will send them a Savior.” Isaiah goes on to tell us in verse 21, “Thus the Lord will make Himself known to Egypt, and the Egyptians will know the Lord in that day.” In fact, verse 25 says, “Blessed is Egypt MY PEOPLE.

Egypt has a great destiny under the New Covenant. The New Covenant is God’s vow to save them and to bless them (along with the whole earth). Many think that only Israel is “My people,” but Isaiah expands this to include Egypt.

The Great Pyramid was located on the border between Upper and Lower Egypt at the midpoint of that border where the Nile Delta begins. Isaiah says that this “altar of the Lord” will be located “in the midst of the land of Egypt…near its border.

Isaiah 19:22 says in the same context,

22 And the Lord will strike Egypt, striking, but healing; so they will return to the Lord, and He will respond to them and will heal them.

Even as Hagar, the Egyptian, was cast out, so also will Egypt be smitten by God. However, that is not the end of the story. The purpose of striking Egypt is to heal them. There is good purpose in this, for the law in Exodus 13:13 has made provision for the Ishmaelite donkeys of Egypt. They will be redeemed by the Lamb (Amnos) and also by the little lambs (arnion) who form the body of Christ.

The numeric value of Isaiah 19:19, 20, speaking of the Great Pyramid, is 5449, which is the precise height of the Great Pyramid in Pyramid Inches—the basic measurement established by the builders themselves. The Pyramid inch is almost exactly the length of our modern inch, which suggests that our modern inch was originally based on the Pyramid inch.

The Pyramid was constructed prophetically in such a way that the capstone would not fit on it. This was deliberate, because the capstone was to represent Christ in Psalm 118:22, 23,

22 The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief corner stone [lit. “head of the corner”]. 23 This is the Lord’s doing; it is marvelous in our eyes.

The head of the corner is a capstone on a pyramid. So Christ was rejected, because He did not fit on the body of people. The body of the Pyramid is built on 203 layers of stone, divided by the King’s Chamber on the 50th layer of stone (Jubilee). Above it is 153 layers of stone (the Sons of God). If, however, the capstone had fit on the Pyramid, the height of the Pyramid would have been 5776 Pyramid inches, instead of just 5449. We see, then, that the height of the finished Pyramid is 5776, which happens to be the Jewish year 2016.


The American Connection

This relates directly to the America, as our Masonic founders knew, for this nation was planned for a long time and had to be established in 1776. Its connection to the Great Pyramid is seen on the Great Seal, which is on the back of every dollar bill, along with the date of 1776 at its base. In occult thinking, it was assumed that Christ was born 4000 years after Adam, so the year 1776 was actually the year 5776 by this way of reckoning. Tom Horn points this out in his book, Zenith 2016, page 309,

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“To further verify this part of the cipher pointing to an ‘alternative capstone’ or second messiah, the year 1776 at the base of the pyramid is understood by Masons worldwide to be the year 5776., Anno Lucis (“in the year of light”). This is because Masons of the ancient Craft add four thousand years to the common date, the number of years that conventional theology assumes creation began before Christ: thus 4,000 plus 1,776 equals 5,776.

“Why is this important? Because 5,776 is exactly how many inches high the Great Pyramid in Giza would be when completed with its capstone, a sacred fact to occultists.”


But 5776 is also the year 2016 by the Jewish calendar. Neither calendar was accurate from a chronological standpoint, but both were valued and used by the occultists to represent symbolic dates and numbers.

This is the connection between 1776 and 2016. Both represent the year 5776 in different ways. Hence, the year 2016 is unique in all of history, for there is no other year where this is seen. This makes 2016 extremely important in occult circles. It is the year when they believe they will reach the apex of power, establish fully their beast kingdom, and gain full control over the earth.

God laughs at this, of course, and we ourselves wonder how they can be so stupid. But they are looking at their array of weapons, their financial control, and their control of the media, while we look at the promises of God by faith. There is no comparison between the two. We can’t lose.

In Tom Horn’s book, Zenith 2016, pages 307-309, he writes,

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“One key to the starting date of this mystical work is magnificently ciphered in the number 888, the sum of the letters in Greek for the name of Jesus (each Greek latter represents a number). This cipher also confirms the prophecies of Psalms 118 and Acts 4 concerning Jesus as the rejected capstone: This same number—888—is also found in ‘the riddle’ of the Sibylline Oracles, ascribed to the Cumaean Sibyl, which J. L. Lightfoot says was hoped by some early Christians to represent Jesus, but was clearly understood by pagans to be a prophecy of the return of Apollo, because 888 was Olen’s number, the founder of Apollo’s oracle and his first prophet, and signified the ‘spiritual sun’ represented in the glory surrounding the all-seeing eye of Apollo/Horus on the Great Seal, and the novus ordo seclorum or ‘new age’ that his coming would herald. Gnostics and mystics among the occult hierarchy maintain this interpretation as the true meaning of the Apollonian Sibyl’s prophecy….

“So here we have two ‘messiahs’ represented by the number 888—Jesus, the Christ of the Bible, and Apollo, the Sibyl’s messiah of the novus ordo seclorum. What is astonishing about this is that adding the number of these two messiahs together (888 plus 888) equals the year 1776—the date chosen for the founding of the United States and reflected in the Roman numerals at the base of the uncapped pyramid on the Great Seal….”

“Thus, the trestleboard’s 1776 ‘beginning’ date for the great work of the Craft truly marked the start in history of the secret doctrine of Freemasonic Illuminatus toward establishing a New Atlantis in anticipation of the return of their founder and deity, Apollo/Osiris/Nimrod.”


Their occultists look to their savior, Apollo, whose number was 888, and they try to combine this with Jesus’ number (888) to come up with 1776. But such a combination assumes that Apollo and Jesus are equal and form a double witness in the earth. Not so. Jesus is Joshua (Yeshua) the Ephraimite, who has the double portion of the birthright. That is the real meaning of 1776, and Apollo has nothing to add to the equation, unless you see it this way:

888 (Jesus) plus 888 (Jesus) plus ZERO (Apollo) equals 1776.

Sorry, Apollo, you are not the sun god. Jesus is the “Sun of Righteousness” who arises with healing in His wings (Malachi 4:2). The Masonic designers of the Great Seal may hope that their god, Apollo, is the real Messiah, and they may wish that Jesus would support him, but their plan was doomed to failure from the start.

Nonetheless, it appears that the year 2016 is the year of the showdown between Jesus and Apollo to see which messiah will establish the novus ordo seclorus, the New Order of the Ages. This is the culmination of a very long plan, and the Masonic occultists have to establish Apollo in 2016 in order to make their prophecies come to pass. They must make their bold move by the end of this year, or else their plans will fail.

The perimeter of the temple mount in Jerusalem is 2016 feet. The occultists know this, and this is another reason why this year is so important to them. It may be that their plan is to start a war that would give them an excuse to destroy the mosque and to build a Jewish temple in its place. I do not know what they are thinking, but this is something to watch.

The good news is that for all their power and occult knowledge, they cannot thwart the divine plan, nor can they manipulate the heavens to do their bidding by the power of positive thinking nor by building architecture on earth that would imitate the heavens. The word of God will be fulfilled in the way that He has determined, not in the way that men desire. Our method is to discover first the mind of God and then bear witness to His will. And that is the main difference between their spiritual work and ours.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/12/16 05:30 PM

My comment: I'm glad to hear that the Temple of Baal Project has been totally discarded. We can give the credit to Christians out there who are actively engaged in spiritual warfare! Thank you!

The bottom quote box is the last post providing the info about their initial plan to put the entry arch of the Temple of Baal in a 1000 cities around the world starting with New York and London. At that time, I couldn't find one article or info on the net about the date this was planned on. I later found out that the date for this was April 19. This is not just any date. It is THE date of the main Baal Feast when the offered blood sacrifices and offered their children to Molech. It started on April 19 and the feast went on for 13 consecutive days ending on the 1st of May which is called "May Day". Here's a link & another link : an article by Michael Snyder) describing the real purpose for these 1000 Temple of Baal Arch and it's relation with the ancient pagan Baal Worship ritual that started on April 19th.

Below is the comment of one Christian group after receiving victory 1 day after they had launched a spiritual warfare.

Temple of Baal arch plans scrapped
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...plans-scrapped/

Apr 11, 2016

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The day after our decree, news came out that plans to construct the arch from the temple of Baal in Palmyra were scrapped. In fact, it seems that all of the monuments to Baal that were to be erected in 1000 locations worldwide have been canceled.

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archive...s-been-canceled

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The Temple of Baal is NOT coming to Times Square in New York City next month. This is great news, and it represents an incredible victory for Christians in the United States…. The only arch that will be going up will be in Trafalgar Square [in London], and it won’t be the one from the Temple of Baal. Instead, the Institute for Digital Archaeology has changed plans and will be putting up a reproduction of the Arch of Triumph which the Romans originally built in Palmyra and that has nothing to do with Baal. So why has there been such a dramatic change in plans?

For the moment, let us celebrate this victory over the Temple of Baal.

The Arch of Triumph being placed in Trafalgar Square seems to represent a great Victory for praying Christians. Good job!


Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : News is quiet these days. But looks what's coming this April -- A full-size replica of Baal Temple entrance in New York City and London. Just incredible! Such a bold & up-front statement. The New York Post article (link below) say a thousand of these will be replicated and put in other cities all around the world. Could this be related to what John said in 1Jn 2:18?

The time and the event for New York City will be on "world Heritage" week in April(?? I can't find the date) when they will celebrate the Baal Temple as a sign against world terrorist.

Maybe something major is coming(will start) this April and might continue until the fall feast. I don't know how far they will succeed with this project. My hunch, based on how many failures they have seen with many other of their projects these past years, is this won't go beyond NYC, London and a few other places in Western allied countries like Canada, Japan, and Europe. Really I don't know and I'm not trying to be a prophet here as I've heard nothing. Only a hunch. With time we'll see what the Lord have in mind to accomplish this coming feasts days this year. Let us remember that the Lord is in control and His plans always work together for good.

New York Post & Times article :
http://nypost.com/2015/12/29/3-d-printing-to-bring-syrian-arch-destroyed-by-isis-back-to-life/
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/opinion/sunday/life-among-the-ruins.html?_r=2

You can see a model picture of it at this link : http://theseason.yuku.com/topic/36964#.Vvwh4X0rKt8

Silver doctors published two articles about it. I'm only posting one of them but here's the link of the other article:
http://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/f...over-the-world/

April 2016: The Temple Of Baal Will Be Erected In Times Square In New York City
http://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/w...-new-york-city/
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I realize that the headline of this article sounds like it must be false, but it is actually completely true. The Temple of Baal (also known as the Temple of Bel) was a world famous landmark that was located in Palmyra, Syria. In August 2015, this temple was destroyed by ISIS, and most of the world recoiled in terror at the loss of a “cultural heritage site”. In an attempt to “preserve history”, two exact replicas of the 50 foot arch that stood at the entrance to the temple will be erected in April 2016 in Times Square in New York City and in Trafalgar Square in London. Needless to say, a lot of people are quite disturbed by this. In ancient times, child sacrifice and bisexual orgies were common practices at the altars of Baal, and now we are putting up a monument of worship to this false god in the heart of our most important city.

When I first came across this story, I could hardly believe it. But this is not just some Internet rumor. This was reported by the New York Times…

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NEXT month, the Temple of Baal will come to Times Square. Reproductions of the 50-foot arch that formed the temple’s entrance are to be installed in New York and in London, a tribute to the 2,000-year-old structure that the Islamic Statedestroyed last year in the Syrian town of Palmyra. The group’s rampage through Palmyra, a city that reached its peak in the second and third century A.D., enraged the world, spurring scholars and conservationists into action. Numerous nongovernmental organizations are now cataloging and mapping damaged cultural heritage sites in the region.
Of course most non-religious Americans don’t understand who Baal was, nor do they really care.

But the truth is that many of the elements of ancient Baal worship are being mirrored in our society in 2016. The following is an excerpt from an excellent article by Matt Barber…

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Ritualistic Baal worship, in sum, looked a little like this: Adults would gather around the altar of Baal. Infants would then be burned alive as a sacrificial offering to the deity. Amid horrific screams and the stench of charred human flesh, congregants – men and women alike – would engage in bisexual orgies. The ritual of convenience was intended to produce economic prosperity by prompting Baal to bring rain for the fertility of “mother earth.”

The natural consequences of such behavior – pregnancy and childbirth – and the associated financial burdens of “unplanned parenthood” were easily offset. One could either choose to engage in homosexual conduct or – with child sacrifice available on demand – could simply take part in another fertility ceremony to “terminate” the unwanted child.

Modern liberalism deviates little from its ancient predecessor. While its macabre rituals have been sanitized with flowery and euphemistic terms of art, its core tenets and practices remain eerily similar.


So considering the child sacrifice and sexual immorality that we are engaged in today, perhaps it is only natural for us to have a Temple of Baal in Times Square.

In the ancient world, the names Baal and Bel were often interchangeable, and they both trace back to the ancient Babylonian god Marduk. The following comes from Wikipedia…

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Bel became especially used of the Babylonian god Marduk and when found in Assyrian and neo-Babylonian personal names or mentioned in inscriptions in a Mesopotamian context it can usually be taken as referring to Marduk and no other god. Similarly Belit without some disambiguation mostly refers to Bel Marduk’s spouse Sarpanit. However Marduk’s mother, the Sumerian goddess called Ninhursag, Damkina, Ninmah and other names in Sumerian, was often known as Belit-ili ‘Lady of the Gods’ in Akkadian.


According to research published by Bruce W. Warren and John A. Tvedtnes, Marduk was “a huntergod” that was believed to have been the founder of ancient Babylon according to ancient Babylonian tradition…

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The Akkadian name Marduk derives front the Sumerian MAR.UTU, a huntergod. He is said to have led a revolt of the gods against his parents, after which he was enthroned as king of the gods. In Babylonian tradition, it was he who founded Babylon (Babilu, “gate of the gods”). His temple at Babylon bore the name E.SAGILA, “house that lifts up the head”, and the tower associated with it was called, in Sumerian Etemenanki,“house of the foundation of heaven and earth.” The similarity to the tower of Babel is evident.

If you are familiar with the book of Genesis, this should remind you of Genesis 10:9 where we are told that Nimrod was “a mighty hunter before the Lord”. And ancient Jewish tradition specifically identifies Nimrod as the one that constructed the Tower of Babel. In addition to Marduk, other names from the ancient world that are linked with Nimrod include Ninurta, Gilgamesh, Osiris, Dionysus, Apollo, Narmer and Enmerkar. I know that this can get very confusing. In the following excerpt, Peter Goodgame helps us to connect some of the dots…

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In Part Eight of this study we examined evidence that Nimrod was known in Egypt as King Narmer, who was later deified as the god Osiris, the Lord of the Underworld. In Part Five we looked at evidence that Nimrod was known to the ancient Sumerians as the great King Enmerkar who attempted to build a huge tower to the gods in the ancient city of Eridu—a city referred to as the original “Babylon” by the historian Berossos.[1] Traditionally the Tower of Babel event has been associated with Nimrod, and Jewish commentaries as well as the Jewish historian Josephus both seem very emphatic on this point. Regarding the Sumerian name Enmer-kar, the suffix “kar” means “hunter,” and so “Enmer-kar” is in fact “Enmer the Hunter,” just as Nimrod is referred to as the “Mighty Hunter” in Genesis 10. Furthermore, Enmerkar is named on the Sumerian King List as “the one who built Uruk,” just as Nimrod is described in Genesis 10:10 as having a kingdom that began in “Babel (Eridu) and Erech (Uruk)… in the land of Shinar.” After Enmerkar’s death he became honored in Sumerian myth as the semi-divine hero Ninurta, and eventually this cult evolved into the great cult of Marduk, which became the state religion of Babylon after the conquests and religious innovations of Hammurabi.

According to some traditions, the original Freemason was Nimrod. He created the very first “New World Order” in the post-flood world, and virtually all of the major gods of ancient Babylon, Greece and Rome ultimately trace back to him or traditions surrounding him.

But for many modern occultists, the story of Nimrod is far from done. A lot of secret societies and occult groups have traditions that tell them that Nimrod/Marduk/Osiris/Apollo/Baal will someday be resurrected and will once again rule the world.

And many Bible scholars believe that the coming Antichrist will either be a resurrected Nimrod or will be associated with him in some way. For an extensive examination of this view, I would commend to you The Second Coming of the Antichrist by Peter Goodgame and Babylon Rising by Rob Skiba.

With all of the preceding in mind, could it be possible that we are actually erecting a temple for the Antichrist in New York City next month?

If you are not religious, I know that all of this must sound very strange. But there are occultists that take this stuff deadly seriously, and nothing this large gets space in either Times Square or Trafalgar Square by accident.

There are very powerful people out there that made this happen, and perhaps someone should ask them what their intentions are.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/12/16 06:12 PM

My comment : Levin, now with Fed Up coalition activists, is pressing for changes inside the Federal Reserve. We have seen many articles that they have been resisting changes since 2010. With the current ongoing crash, and the fact these banking institute are all bankrupted, I have the impression that China doesn't intend to destroy all these 3 letters banking Institution; from the articles published here I get the impression they want to reform these institution. So, most likely Levin's reform proposal might come thru. Time will tell what the Lord has in mind in His plans.

Some quotes from the article :
"A lot of people would be stunned to know” the extent to which the Federal Reserve is privately owned, Mr. Levin said. The Fed “should be a fully public institution just like every other central bank”
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"Worse, the actual org chart of who owns what is not disclosed, even as the vast majority of the U.S. population remains deluded that the Fed is a publicly owned institution."
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"To be sure, Levin's personal campaign for Fed transformation will not be easy, and as the WSJ writes, what is being sought by Mr. Levin and the activists is significant and would require congressional action. Ady Barkan, who leads the Fed Up campaign, said the Fed’s current structure “is an embarrassment to America” and Fed leaders haven’t been “willing or able” to make changes.

Specifically, Levin wants the 12 regional Fed banks to be brought fully into the government. He also wants the process of selecting new bank presidents—they are key regulators and contributors in setting interest-rate policy—opened up more fully to public input, as well as term limits for Fed officials."
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"While ending the Fed may still seem like a pipe dream, at least until the market's next major crash at which point the population may finally turn on the culprit behind America's serial boom-bust culture, the U.S. central bank, Levin's proposal would get to the heart of the most insidious conflict of interest in the US: the fact that the Federal Reserve works not for the people of America, but for its owners - the banks."


Bernanke's Former Advisor: "People Would Be Stunned To Know The Extent To Which The Fed Is Privately Owned"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-11...d-privately-own

04/11/2016

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With every passing day, the Fed is slowly but surely losing the game.

Only it is not just former (and in some cases current) Fed presidents admitting central banks are increasingly powerless to boost the global economy, even if they still have sway over capital markets. What is far more insidious to the Fed's waning credibility is when former economists affiliated with the Fed start repeating mantras that until recently were only a prominent feature in the so-called fringe media.

This is precisely what happened today when former central bank staffer and Dartmouth College economics professor Andrew Levin, special adviser to then Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke between 2010 to 2012, joined with an activist group to argue for overhauls at the central bank that they say would distance it from Wall Street and make its activities more transparent and accountable to the public.

Levin is pressing for the overhaul with Fed Up coalition activists. Many of the proposed changes target the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks, which are quasi-private and technically owned by commercial banks in their respective districts.

All of that is not surprising. What he said to justify his new found cause, however, is.

"A lot of people would be stunned to know” the extent to which the Federal Reserve is privately owned, Mr. Levin said. The Fed “should be a fully public institution just like every other central bank” in the developed world, he said in a conference call announcing the plan. He described his proposals as "sensible, pragmatic and nonpartisan."

Why is that stunning? Because it has long been a bone of contention if only among the fringe media, that at its core the Fed is merely a private institution, beholden only to its de facto owners: not the people of the U.S. but to a small cabal of banks. Worse, the actual org chart of who owns what is not disclosed, even as the vast majority of the U.S. population remains deluded that the Fed is a publicly owned institution.

As the WSJ goes on to note, the former central bank staffer said he sees his ideas as designed to maintain the virtues the central bank already brings to the table. They aren’t targeted at changing how policy is conducted today. “What’s important here is that reform to the Federal Reserve can last for 100 years, not just the near term,” he said.

And this is coming from a former Fed employee and Ben Bernanke's personal advisor! That in itself is a most striking development, because now that the insiders are finally speaking up, it will be a race among both current and prior Fed workers to reveal as much dirty laundry as possible ahead of what is increasingly being perceived by many as the Fed's demise.

To be sure, Levin's personal campaign for Fed transformation will not be easy, and as the WSJ writes, what is being sought by Mr. Levin and the activists is significant and would require congressional action. Ady Barkan, who leads the Fed Up campaign, said the Fed’s current structure “is an embarrassment to America” and Fed leaders haven’t been “willing or able” to make changes.

Specifically, Levin wants the 12 regional Fed banks to be brought fully into the government. He also wants the process of selecting new bank presidents—they are key regulators and contributors in setting interest-rate policy—opened up more fully to public input, as well as term limits for Fed officials.

This would represent a revolution to the internal staffing of the Fed, which will no longer be at the mercy of its now-defunct shareholders, America's commercial banks; it would also mean that Goldman Sachs would lose all its leverage as the world's biggest central bank incubator, a revolving door relationship which has allowed the Manhattan firm to dominate the world of finance for the decades.

Levin’s proposal was made in conjunction with the Center for Popular Democracy’s Fed Up coalition, a group that has been pressuring the central bank for more accountability for some time. The left-leaning group has been critical of the structure of the regional banks, and has been pressing the Fed to hold off on raising rates in a bid to make sure the recovery is enjoyed not just by the wealthy, in their view.

The proposal was revealed on a conference call that also included a representative from Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign, although all campaigns were invited to participate.

The WSJ adds that according to Levin, who knows the Fed's operating structure intimately, says the members of the regional Fed bank boards of directors, the majority of whom are selected by the private banks with the approval of the Washington-based governors, should be chosen differently. The professor says director slots now reserved for financial professionals regulated by the Fed should be eliminated, and that directors who oversee and advise the regional banks should be selected in a public process involving the Washington governors and local elected officials. These directors also should better represent the diversity of the U.S.

Levin also wants formal public input into the selection of new bank presidents, with candidates’ names known publicly and a process that allows for public comment in a way that doesn’t now exist. The professor also wants all Fed officials to serve for single seven-year terms, which would give them the needed distance from the political process while eliminating situations where some policy makers stay at the bank for decades. Alan Greenspan, for example, was Fed chairman from 1987 to 2006.

As the WSJ conveniently adds, the selection of regional bank presidents has become a hot-button issue. Currently, the leaders of the New York, Philadelphia, Dallas and Minneapolis Fed banks are helmed by men who formerly worked for or had close connections to investment bank Goldman Sachs.

Levin called for watchdog agency the Government Accountability Office to annually review and report on Fed operations, including the regional Fed banks. He also wants the regional Fed banks to be covered under the Freedom of Information Act. A regular annual review hopefully would insulate the effort from perceptions of political interference, Mr. Levin said.

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While ending the Fed may still seem like a pipe dream, at least until the market's next major crash at which point the population may finally turn on the culprit behind America's serial boom-bust culture, the U.S. central bank, Levin's proposal would get to the heart of the most insidious conflict of interest in the US: the fact that the Federal Reserve works not for the people of America, but for its owners - the banks.

Which is also why, sadly, this proposal will be dead on arrival, as its passage would represent the biggest loss for Wall Street in the past 103 years, far more significant than anything Dodd-Frank could hope to accomplish.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/12/16 07:02 PM

Spring Democracy Protest: 400+ arrested as Democracy Spring calls for fairer elections, no more money in politics
My comment : Currently the protestors during their 3 day long march have arrived in Washington DC. Monday demanding "on creating fairer elections and politics that are unmarred by corporations' big bucks". No mainstream Media is covering this yet. Over 400 protestors have been arrested up to now. Their jail is full and they would like to arrest more if they had more room. I guess there is plenty of room in those FEMA camps. Let's see where this goes as this group is not going to back down until they have a fairer democracy in place.

This video is excellent for the purpose, plans, and actions are laid out clearly by one of the leaders of this protest.

Don't be surprised if this link no longer works as youtube does remove stuff when the content damages Mystery Babylon's interest. If that happens, then look it up under the title "Democracy Spring Protesters Stop in Baltimore En Route to DC" as I'm sure it will be reloaded under another link.



Here's RT link coverage with a video report coverage and lots of pictures : https://www.rt.com/usa/339252-democracy-spring-key-demands/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/13/16 09:24 PM

Is Some Major Global Economic Change coming April 19th?
My comment : Potentially something big is coming April 19th. Not the Arch of Baal Temple yay ; but potentially a huge financial change depending if the US continue to resist the coming Global Banking restructuring. If they agree; then if my understanding is correct, then it will buy the US some time(maybe 6 months -- to the fall feasts???) to buy some gold to back their currency before the big world wide gold-backed currencies announcement.

Currently, everything is only said behind doors at this point. So what we hear is only speculation for now until some disclosure is done publicly (unless you have connection like Benjamin Fulford which is provided below).

All week there have been very secret meetings taking place in Washington DC. And its not over, more is to come :

Quote:
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1144
More: Tuesday and Wednesday the G20 Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors meet in DC and on Thursday the IMF and World Bank meet in DC as well.

All the leading bankers in the world will be in DC this week.

Something wicked this way comes and it is coming very, very soon; within days we suspect.


As we have seen earlier this year in another article that the Chinese were planning to make some move to back their yuan with gold sometime this spring. It seems that the potential date for this is this coming April 19th :

Quote:
https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1144
Next Tuesday: The Chinese are scheduled to announce their switch from dollar to yuan on Tuesday, April 19th; which will send about two TRILLION in cash back to the US and send inflation skyrocketing overnight.


Stephen Jones comment on this is the following :

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China is actually setting up a yuan-backed gold exchange on April 19. Whether or not they will also make their entire currency gold-backed is, I think, just speculation at this point. Even so, it is certainly a date to watch, because whatever China does will be important.

The author of the article above is suggesting that we should prepare for the worst. Banks might be closed for a while, so one should have some extra cash on hand, he says. That is probably always a good idea as a general rule. He also says we should stock up on food. I don’t think that grocery store shelves will be emptied overnight, but some food storage has always been a good idea long-term.

The main thing is to pray and exercise your faith along with prudence. Do are you are led, and God will take care of you. Act always in faith, never in fear.

- See more at: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.eCYeOy1F.dpuf


Then in this week Benjamin Fulford's Geo-political news report he says the following :

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http://benjaminfulford.net/
The Asian Dragon Family has offered the owners of the Federal Reserve Board staggering quantities of gold at a 13% discount from the market price… 10% of this money to be spent on a massive campaign to end poverty, stop environmental destruction and send humanity on a path for exponential expansion into the universe. The ball is now in the court of the US regime in Washington DC. That is why the US President and Vice President are having an emergency meeting on April 11 with Federal Reserve Board Chairperson Janet Yellen. A member of the Dragon family will also be at that meeting, CIA sources in Asia say.

If the Feds refuse… BRICS nations and the Europeans will announce a new international gold backed currency that can be exchanged for US dollars during a three month period. After that period, the US dollar will no longer be accepted by at least 188 countries, leaving the Washington regime isolated and bankrupt.


According to Ben's report, it looks like China is trying to offer the US a way to save the American economy while giving them the last call to submit and accept the coming new Global Economic Restructure. What I don't understand is how the American can buy gold even at a reduction price if they are broke? There must be something there in the agreement that allows such trade so the American can purchase gold so to back their own currency with gold like all countries. This intention of the nations to return back to the gold standard was expressed worldwide in 2010 if not earlier.

Time will tell and definitely we are in very interesting time. Let's watch what the Lord has in mind to fulfill in this Passover feast time.

Below is the full article about the Emergency Meeting taking place in DC.

After Emergency Federal Reserve Meeting TODAY, Obama and Biden to Meet with Yellen!

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1144

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UPDATED APRIL 13 AT 12:03 AM EDT ---- (BOTTOM) RUMORS swirling say "Martial Law discussions over a banking system failure" are the reasons President Obama and Vice President Biden are to meet with Fed. Chair Janet Yellen today after the Federal Reserve's Emergency Meeting this morning. In the history of the United States, it has never before taken place that both the President AND Vice President meet "unexpectedly" with the Federal Reserve. Speculation is already flowing all over Washington, DC that it may have something to do with "the survival of the government."

Members of the House and Senate are said to have been "up all night" in discussions and meetings; with floods of phone calls back and forth.

More: Tuesday and Wednesday the G20 Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors meet in DC and on Thursday the IMF and World Bank meet in DC as well.

All the leading bankers in the world will be in DC this week.

Something wicked this way comes and it is coming very, very soon; within days we suspect.

Next Tuesday: The Chinese are scheduled to announce their switch from dollar to yuan on Tuesday, April 19th; which will send about two TRILLION in cash back to the US and send inflation skyrocketing overnight.

If you are not prepared, you have run out of time.

You need to have emergency cash to live on in case banks close for a couple weeks and shut down credit, debit cards and ATM's; not cash to pay your bills, but rather cash to SURVIVE with for food, fuel, medicine.

Stores may have to close, so you'd better have food, the shelf-stable type that doesn't go bad: 50lb Bag(s) of rice, Boxes of various Pasta, canned meats, jarred sauces. Butter, sugar, salt etc. Enough to survive for awhile just in case.

UPDATE 1:35 PM EDT APRIL 11, 2016



While today's Expedited meeting of the federal reserve was called last Thursday, over the weekend astonishing banking developments took place in Europe.

Austria became the first European nation to utilize the new "Bail-in" regulations, seizing 54% of Senior Bondholders stock value to pay the bad debts of Hypo Alpe Adria bank / the Heta Asset Resolution AG. While senior bond holders were considered "preferred" creditors and got 46% of their investment covered, Depositors were considered "subordinated" creditors and got: NOTHING! Citizens were left broke. Story HERE

Five hours later, the Finance Minister of Italy called an Emergency Meeting of Italian Bankers in Rome to engage what he called a "last resort" to deal with 360 Billion in bad loans against banks with only 50 Billion in Capital. That story is Here.

It appears an actual worldwide banking crisis is literally within view on the horizon and this week seems to be when all of it may come to a head. Perhaps that's why the Finance Ministers of the G-20 nations will meet in Washington Tuesday and Wednesday, and then on Thursday, the World Bank and IMF will meet in Washington.

With every major banker in the world meeting in Washington this week, something is surely "up," and many people are starting to think the general public is about to get "hosed."





UPDATE 10:59 PM EDT --

The White House released this photo of the meeting between Obama, Biden and Federal Reserve Chair, Janet Yellen. LOOK AT YELLEN'S FACE . . . this is not a look of happiness and "all is well;" it seems more a death stare! Did she "get told" or was she the one doing the telling of bad news?

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/14/16 04:13 PM

My comment : It looks like the US complied with China's terms by looking at Jack Lew, US Treasure Secretary, recent communication.

Treasury Secretary Jack Lew gives us clues about the current crisis

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.b27UI5Ej.dpuf
Apr 13, 2016

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The US Treasury Secretary gave a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations yesterday that may provide some clues as to why the Fed has had three emergency meetings this week.

http://www.china.org.cn/world/Off_the_Wire/2016-04/12/content_38224949.htm

[quote]U.S. Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew on Monday called for reform of the international financial architecture to allow the United States to continue benefiting from the system.

In a speech delivered at the Council on Foreign Relations, a think tank, Lew said that the United States have reaped significant benefits from the international financial architecture put in place after World War II, and it has to take necessary steps to preserve and strengthen the country's position and secure the benefits.

The United States should work with its partners to further modernize the International Monetary Fund and the global trading system, make the World Bank and the regional development banks more efficient and effective, and reform the international financial regulatory system, Lew said.

With regard to the relationship with China, Lew said the United States and China have a unique responsibility to work together to advance shared prosperity, maintain a constructive global economic order, and make progress on critical challenges like climate change.

This article tells us that Jack Lew was concerned about the financial architecture (i.e., the Bretton Woods agreement) which established the US dollar as the world reserve currency. The agreement said that trade deficits between central banks would be settled in gold. That agreement ended when Nixon closed the “gold window” and took us off the gold standard in 1971, forcing nations to settle in US dollars instead.

Since the original gold backing the Federal Reserve Bank had been provided by the Dragon family in 1913, Nixon essentially broke the rules and caused a huge problem. The gold had been provided as a loan, but the bankers soon stole the gold or (mis)used it for their own purposes to make money with investments and power plays. That gold is now due for repayment, but it is no longer possible to repay, nor can they repay the interest that is also due.

A second gold shipment was sent by the Dragon family, dated August 17, 1945, to fund the newly-organized United Nations, which was registered in Batavia (now Jakarta), Indonesia. This was a 70-year charter/loan of just over 78 billion kg of gold worth $506,502,000,000 (US). This came due August 15, 2015, just in time for the great transfer of authority in prophecy.

Negotiations have been taking place behind the scenes, but from reports I have received, the western banks and Babylonian bankers do not have the money or gold to repay the debt. The Dragon families are thus negotiating for more authority in the new “international financial architecture,” so that the problem of theft is not repeated in the 21st century.

This, I believe, is why Jack Lew is telling the CFR to “reform the international financial regulatory system” in order to make it “more efficient and effective.” It is also “to preserve and strengthen the country’s position and secure the benefits” of the previous arrangement. The Dragon families are demanding such changes, if the US wants to continue benefiting from its previous position of advantage under Bretton Woods.

Jack Lew says that his recommendations are to “preserve” the US’s position. In other words, the US is in danger of losing that position. That, I believe, is the underlying reason for this week’s emergency meetings. If something is not done immediately, the banking system set up after World War 2 will be in danger of collapse.

It is understandable that the Babylonian oligarchs do not want to give up power, but they are being forced to do so in spite of their foot-dragging. We will arrive at the moment of truth when the power shifts from West to East. This will be done the easy way or the hard way. But because the original city of Babylon fell intact, I believe that this will be done without wholesale destruction. The banking system itself is not the problem. The problem are the bankers who control it and who have taken advantage of their power to enrich themselves at others’ expense. With new people put into power (behind the scenes), the present-day bankers will have new overseers and will have to comply with their new rules and regulations.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/15/16 03:55 AM

Elle said:

"This was a 70-year charter/loan of just over 78 billion kg of gold worth..."


Latest figure for all the gold in the world, BBC News:

"Estimates range from 155,244 tonnes, marginally less than the GFMS figure, to about 16 times that amount - 2.5 million tonnes."
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21969100


155,244 x 1000 = 155,244,000 kg
2,500,000 x 1000 = 2,500,000,000 kg

The latest estimates of the world's total refined gold are between
155.244 million kg, and 2.5 billion kg.



Perhaps, you should recheck your figures?

According to your post, in a single transaction, the Dragon family has funded the United Nations with more refined gold than exists on the entire planet!

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/15/16 11:25 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Elle said:

"This was a 70-year charter/loan of just over 78 billion kg of gold worth..."

Just to put the record straight...Elle didn't say that quote. I can see that how you made that error. I didn't say this nor made any comment on the top of the post about this. This was made in the link provided.

All of the news I post are from various sources that most are not even Christians. They are only news mostly from alternative media or pieces of the puzzle that I personally think is important according to my personal discernment. Everyone who read this discussion has to use his own discernment to reject or accept whatever pieces.

The guy that made that comment was reporting what was told to Ben Fulford who has been in direct communication with these Asians Royal families spokes people. It is thru Ben that this little part of supposed suppressed history was made "public"(to a small group of alternative news seekers) about 4 years ago. (I believe if you go at the beginning of this thread you will see some links to the original source). Then thru the years that followed, a lot of other news sources showed us that the US is indeed indebted to China. As far as I know, China has not reveal any details of this past history yet, or how much gold they currently hold, or any other concrete information beside what has surfaced thru other incidence & reporters and that we all know that they(China) hold most of US treasury(debt) and that they (China) has some power over the US. Just because they haven't reveal this yet, doesn't mean that this history doesn't exist and it won't be reveal in a more optimal time in the future.

No one knows how much gold there is in this world. But for sure we do know that the Chinese are an old nation and were historically strong merchants for Millennias being paid in gold as that was the reliable currency for the longest time. China was never into warring other nations or expanding their territory like other nations has wasted their energy on this and became weakened or even been destroyed because of their bloodthirsty beastly conduct. China's historical interest and strenght was always into trading. However, they did defend their territory if other nation tried to take it over. So it's not too much of a stretch out of reality to think that China has gathered up a large stock of gold during these past 5000+ years of heavy trading and remaining intact as a country.

Then we have King Solomon mining interest in other Asians nations like in Indonesia and other Islands with many historical references(in Bible and other archeological evidence and the names of places that are a witness of Solomon presence today). Then there are numerous other sources with evidences, saying or suggesting that there's way more gold than what Mystery Babylon would like us to believe there is.

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Latest figure for all the gold in the world, BBC News:

"Estimates range from 155,244 tonnes, marginally less than the GFMS figure, to about 16 times that amount - 2.5 million tonnes."
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21969100


155,244 x 1000 = 155,244,000 kg
2,500,000 x 1000 = 2,500,000,000 kg

The latest estimates of the world's total refined gold are between
155.244 million kg, and 2.5 billion kg.



Perhaps, you should recheck your figures?

You got those numbers from BBC! Perhaps you shouldn't be so naively trust everything Mystery Babylon says.

Originally Posted By: ProdigalSon
According to your post, in a single transaction, the Dragon family has funded the United Nations with more refined gold than exists on the entire planet!

Are you telling me you know ruffly how much gold there is in this entire planet? That's odd, for honest financial experts won't even make such claim and surely knows that there's way more gold than what Mystery Babylon tells us.

Regarding you putting your trust in BBC -- many people today (actually right now stats shows over the majority of people and the number keeps on increasing as the Lord reveals their works) distrust in Mystery Babylon's mouth piece which is Mainstream Media(MSM) or what twisted data they provide of history and elsewhere because Mystery Babylon have been caught in so many lies.

In case you haven't seen this yet, here's a little example below that show how MSM is only the mouthpiece of Babylon. If you go to youtube and type "operation mockingbird" you will have multiple evidence about MSM and how they read a script word per word what their dear Master Babylon tells them to say.



No one knows how much gold there is or how much was lend to the US in the past. Actually, I have seen nearly a 100 pictures of like 50(?) or even more trunks and trunks full, of old bonds made then to prove this transaction between China and the US did exist. I think I have provided a link of this in the earlier post but maybe I haven't. I'll try to find this link and post it for you later.

A reporter like Benjamin Fulford can only report the numbers the source gave him that he believe is a reliable source. But really Ben cannot verify these numbers for this part of history is not in the interest of Mystery Babylon for it to be made known. However, Ben's source has shown to be reliable and trust worthy for the past 5+ years and he still reports news from them in his weekly geo-politic report that I have been reading weekly for the past 4 years now. But yet no one really knows, not even Fulford, how much gold China gave the US or how much gold there really is in the world today for Ben himself says he never even saw the Chinese vaults.

The Lord will reveal all things with time. In time, we will know how much gold there really is in the world and what really happened in those transactions in past history. The Lord knows this.

Personally, I'm more lenient to believe the Chinese source over what Mystery Babylon says. I'm pretty sure now, with all the evidence I have seen that Mystery Babylon MSM (only 5 Media companies that controls all info) will be shown as a big lying machine and a huge collaborator of wars, crimes, and world disinformation to control the masses opinions, thoughts and choices.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/16/16 02:13 AM

My comment : China has been strict in their own country to do the valuable work in removing all the corruption in the Stock Market, Banks, and other financial institute for awhile. They even designed an online software called "Catching Tigers and flies" to make public their progress of the people investigated, brought to court, and their judgment.

Interactive Graphic Reveal China's Massive Anti-Corruption Campaign

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-22...uption-campaign

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"Xi’s anti-corruption campaign has ensnared scores of officials from the prominent (the “tigers”) to the obscure (the “flies”), and as Foreign Policy wrote on Thursday, “the CCDI [just] released a communiqué promising to maintain ‘unabated forces and unchanging rhythm’ in pursuing the goal of a China where, as Xi put it, officials are ‘unable and unwilling to engage in corruption.’”

Some 1,500 officials have seen their cases publicly announced. All 1,500 are represented in the following excellent interactive graphic from China File called “Catching Tigers and Flies.


My comment : I believe we will see many reformation like China is doing inside their own country. China and other countries will puts on the pressure of an economic reformation(a cleanup by prosecuting those involved in corruption) around the world.

Thus, the day after these secrets meeting was held this week by the Fed, Obama & Vice President and all the bankers, we immediately received two articles with the Deutsche Bank admitting rigging the silver and the gold market prices and agreeing to expose other contributors.


Here's Stephen Jones comment about the Silver manipulation.

Deutsche Bank to settle U.S. silver price-fixing litigation
Apr 14, 2016
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In settling out of court, Deutsche Bank is admitting that they “conspired… to fix silver prices at the expense of investors.” Hence, no longer is this a “conspiracy theory.” The bank is admitting it and wants to settle the case with the court. Two other banks, HSBC and ScotiaBank, are being charged as well, but so far they have not admitted guilt, nor have they reached a settlement.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-deutschebank-settlement-silver-idUSKCN0XA2RU

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Deutsche Bank AG has agreed to settle U.S. litigation over allegations it illegally conspired with Bank of Nova Scotia and HSBC Holdings Plc to fix silver prices at the expense of investors, a court filing on Wednesday showed….

Investors accused Deutsche Bank, HSBC and ScotiaBank of abusing their power as three of the world's largest silver bullion banks to dictate the price of silver through a secret, once-a-day meeting known as the Silver Fix.

According to the lawsuit, the defendants distorted prices on the roughly $30 billion of silver and silver financial instruments traded annually, violating U.S. antitrust law….


The case is In re: London Silver Fixing Ltd Antitrust Litigation, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York, No. 14-md-02573.

In addition, Deutsche Bank has agreed to provide the court with incriminating evidence against the other banks, according to their letter to the Judge. This letter is reproduced by zerohedge.

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“In addition to valuable monetary consideration, Deutsche Bank has also agreed to provide cooperation to plaintiffs, including the production of instant messages, and other electronic communications, as part of the settlement. In Plaintiff’s estimation, the cooperation to be provided by Deutsche Bank will substantially assist Plaintiffs in the prosecution of their claims against the non-settling defendants.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2016/04/09/silver settlement letter.jpg


So, for all those who have converted FRN’s to silver over the years, your decision may soon pay off. It remains to be seen how this court case will actually affect the price of silver, but it is certainly a major step in the right direction. Silver has been grossly undervalued over the past decades, due to this price manipulation. The high demand for silver should have sent the prices through the roof a long time ago, were it not for the price manipulations of these banks.

- See more at: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.f7gwBVHm.dpuf


see also : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-14...ettlement-agree

My comment : then the day after the silver market was disclosed to be rigged, we hear in the news that the gold market was also rigged as followed.

Deutsche Bank Admits It Rigged Gold Prices, Agrees To Expose Other Manipulators

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-14...-legal-settleme

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This was confirmed moments ago when Reuters reported that Deutsche Bank has also reached a settlement in US litigation alleging the bank conspired to fix gold prices. In other words, hours after admitting it was rigging the silver market, it did the same for gold.


Steven Jones comment on this with the following
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"The CFTC, which investigated such rigging for years and “found no evidence” that any way taking place, ought to be investigated for a massive cover-up that allowed this crime to continue for years unabated.

That is the opinion of Rob Kirby in this very revealing half-hour video interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FI01zevYxM&app=desktop


- See more at: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.7pETdZ0h.dpuf
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/16/16 08:06 AM


Actually, the BBC site estimating the amount of gold was only one among dozens
of other sites with estimates of world gold amounts. The BBC article did say that no one knows for certain the exact amount of refined gold on earth.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/16/16 10:10 PM

My comment: Rob Kirby thinks that what's coming from these 3 emergency meetings and the admission of gold & silver market manipulation, is China is going to announce a gold-backed yuan very soon. This will produced a "twsunami of the Dollars coming back to America" for it doesn't have any value any more and a devaluation of the US Dollar and reevaluation of other currencies.

Below is a partial transcript what was discuss in the video.


Tsunami of Dollars Coming Back to America Soon-

http://usawatchdog.com/tsunami-of-dollars-coming-back-to-america-soon-rob-kirby/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsaWatchdog+%28Greg+Hunter%E2%80%99s+USAWatchdog%29

April 14 2016

By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com (Special Release)

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Emergency Fed meetings at the White House, the launching of new gold trading market at the Shanghai Gold Exchange, revelations Deutsche Bank admitting it manipulated gold and silver prices, China starting its own global payment system. These may all seem unrelated, but according to macroeconomic researcher Rob Kirby, they are all connected. Kirby explains, “With China and their upstart CIPS, which is the China Interbank Payment System, China appears to be on the verge of merging their interbank payment system with SWIFT. My gut is telling me that this will very much marginalize America as the main processor of global payments. This, in my view, will embody very possibly a global reset in terms which currency is going to be the world’s reserve currency. I have a very sneaking suspicion that when China merges with the SWIFT system, I believe there is a very strong possibility that China will back their currency with gold. I do believe this is why China has aggressively been buying physical gold for the past 10 or 15 years. They have been doing it with a view to dislodging the dollar or greatly diminishing the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. That’s what I think is at play right now. I think U.S. bankers and regulators have caught wind of this and are aware it is coming. I also believe this is the reason for all the secret meetings they have been having. The Federal Reserve Board met in secret behind closed doors (Monday morning), and they gave us some frivolous reason why they were meeting. The Fed Chairman, that Monday afternoon, walked over to the White House and met with, not just the President, but also the Vice President. The notion that the President and Vice President would be in the same room at the same time tells you this is national security related. If you don’t think the preservation of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency isn’t a national security issue, you better think again.”

Could there be a dramatic and overnight reduction in the value of the dollar? Kirby contends, “I think this is coming in very short order now. The trail of bread crumbs is indicating this is what is afoot right now.”

Does that mean dollar devaluation and a bank “holiday” coming soon? Kirby says, “How quickly this happens is open for conjecture, but that is clearly the direction we are heading. We are unmistakably headed in that direction. The only real question is how long these criminal central bankers can MacGyver the system together and keep it together with elastic bands, paperclips and bungie cords. This is going down. This is going to happen. I think it’s going down in the next two or three weeks. . . .We’ve all speculated that this would eventually happen. Now we are here, and the clock is about to strike midnight.”

What have the President and the VP been told by the Fed Chairman in these emergency meetings this week? Kirby says, “My guess is they are probably explaining to them just how deep the pooh is that they are about to be thrown into. It’s deep, and it’s going to be over their heads. . . . Historically, when banks have nothing else they can do, they take us to war.”

If they don’t take us to war? Kirby says, “Everything is on the table. . . . My thinking is there are an awful lot of U.S. dollars out there right now that are going to be coming home to America. . . . The adjustment in global reserve accounts could create a tsunami of dollars coming back to America in a very, very short period of time. That could trigger something approaching a hyperinflationary event or, at least, stagflation and super inflationary pressure. That’s the minimum occurring very, very soon.”

About the recent revelation of Deutsche Bank suppressing the price of physical gold and silver? Kirby points out, “The price rigging ultimately comes back to and will be shown that it really is an operation of the U.S. Treasury and the U.S. Federal Reserve. . . . The short interests, or the paper sales of precious metals, have been used on purpose to suppress the growing demand for precious metals, or to make it appear that people are still happy with dollars and don’t prefer precious metals to dollars. . . . Whether the U.S. central bank declares that gold or silver are not money in some hubris filled silliness doesn’t diminish the fact that gold and silver are money, and your U.S. Constitution says gold and silver are money.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/17/16 03:49 PM

My Comment : Currently there's lots of articles coming out having many speculative "fear mongering" scenario about the effect of the coming Chinese announcement of its gold backed currency on April 19th. Those article we need to take with a grain of salt.

This article below only confirms the April 19th date as I was waiting to see an official source to confirm it.

Remember the article by MidelKoop saying that China moves very slowly and have long ranged plans. Please note the following quote :

"A yuan gold fix is not expected to pose an immediate threat to the gold pricing dominance of London and New York, but it could ultimately give Asia more power, particularly if the Chinese currency becomes fully convertible."

This is not going to pose an "immediate threat", but will indeed bring a lot of pressure to the current Babylonian debt system which is based on Fiat money and other papers sources. This will surely accelerate the coming fall of the paper trading of precious metals and probably the derivative markets that Mystery Babylon has been keeping on an artificial manipulative life support for a long time. MidelKoop believed that this current poor system can still go on "living" for another 40 years while transitioning towards the new Global Economic Restructure.

I believe this Gold-backing announcement will be one of these major step that will make official worldwide the official direction all nations has agreed to take. It is still to watch if this step will be coupled with a Reevaluation of all currencies.

China's yuan gold benchmark to launch with 18 members -source

http://www.reuters.com/article/china-gold-fix-idUSL3N17G1Z5

SINGAPORE, APRIL 13
Quote:
Top Chinese banks and gold miners, along with the world's biggest jewellery retailer, will be among 18 members taking part in Beijing's new yuan-denominated gold benchmark, a source familiar with the matter said.

Two foreign banks will also join the benchmark-setting process, when it launches on April 19, marking China's biggest step to become a price-setter for gold.

As the world's top producer, importer and consumer of gold, China has baulked at having to depend on a dollar price in international transactions, and believes its market weight should entitle it to set the price of gold.

A yuan gold fix is not expected to pose an immediate threat to the gold pricing dominance of London and New York, but it could ultimately give Asia more power, particularly if the Chinese currency becomes fully convertible.

Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, Agricultural Bank of China, Bank of China , China Construction Bank and Bank of Communications are among the ten Chinese banks that will participate, said the source, who declined to be identified because he was not authorised to speak to the media.

Two foreign banks would also join, the source said, without naming them.

Chow Tai Fook, the world's biggest jewellery retailer, Swiss trading house MKS, Chinese miners China National Gold Group and Shandong Gold Group will also be members, the source said.

MKS confirmed it was taking part, while Chow Tai Fook declined to comment.

The other companies were not immediately available for comment.

The Chinese benchmark price will be derived from a 1 kg-contract to be traded on the state-run Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE), which will act as the central counterparty.

The price, to be quoted in yuan per gram, will be set twice a day based on a few minutes of trading in each session.

SGE was not immediately available for comment.

The spot benchmark in London is set via a twice-daily auction on an electronic platform with 12 participants after starting off with six.

The London fix, which was previously set via a teleconference among banks, was replaced by electronic auctions after a shake-up in benchmark setting following a scandal over rigging of the Libor interest rate broke in 2012.

Support from foreign banks will be crucial for the international use of the yuan benchmark, but China has struggled to get them to sign up due to sensitivity around benchmarks amid scrutiny by regulators.

Reuters reported in January that China had warned foreign banks it could curb their operations in the domestic market if they refuse to participate in the benchmark-setting process. (Additional reporting by Shanghai Newsroom; Editing by Ed Davies)
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/17/16 03:59 PM

My comment: It's been years we've been expecting a new Global Economic Restructure and this coming April 19th may be the first of the serious steps to implement this. I would like to note that April 19th is the 10th day of Abib -- the day the Passover lamb is chosen to be sacrificed.

No one knows how all of this will play out. It may be a smooth transfer or it could be ruff as we have seen up to date Mystery Babylon doesn't want to lose its power over the Economic system nor do they want to reform(repent). This gold-backing currency step is major and does challenge Mystery Babylon a great deal.

So use discernment on this article as many do fear for the worst, and yet no one knows how this will all pan out. I am publishing this article for it is a good summary of what is currently going on by bringing forth many other articles.

APRIL 19TH CHINESE GOLD BACKED YUAN OPENS FOR BUSINESS!!!
http://prophecyinthemaking.blogspot.ca/2016/04/april-19th-chinese-gold-backed-yuan.html
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APRIL 19TH,
NEW WORLD CURRENCY OPENS FOR BUSINESS...AND IT'S GOLD BACKED, NOT DEBT BACKED!!!

OVER THE PAST SEVERAL DAYS I HAVE BEEN READING A LOT OF THINGS REGARDING APRIL 19TH, 2016, BUT MOST OF IT HAD TO DO WITH THE TEMPLE OF BAAL GATEWAYS THAT WOULD BE DISPLAYED IN BOTH NEW YORK AND LONDON, BUT THE REAL SHOCKING NEWS WAS WHAT I CAME ACROSS JUST RECENTLY.

SEEING HOW I'M ALWAYS KEEPING AN EYE ON THINGS THAT ARE ALWAYS JUST A BIT AHEAD OF THE CURVE, IT CAME AS A SURPRISE TO ME JUST TODAY, HOW ON APRIL 19TH, THE CHINESE YUAN WILL OFFICIALLY OPEN FOR BUSINESS AS A GOLD BACKED CURRENCY AND I'M SURE THE U.S. IS SCRAMBLING AS TO HOW AND WHAT TO DO IN RESPONSE TO THIS GOLD BACKED COMPETITOR COMING ONLINE AND CHALLENGING THE DOMINANCE OF THE ALL MIGHTY DEBT BACKED CURRENCY, THE DOLLAR.

NOW IT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE AS TO WHY OBAMA, BIDEN AND YELLEN, AS WELL AS ALL OF THESE FOREIGN BANKERS HAVE AND ARE HOLDING MEETING AFTER MEETING IN WASHINGTON D.C.
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/04/bank...nk-reports.html

WHAT I HADN'T REALIZED WAS WHAT CHINA WAS ON THE VERGE OF DOING NEXT WEEK. NOW THIS COMPLETELY PUTS INTO PROPER PERSPECTIVE WHY THE CHINESE HAVE BEEN FLEXING THEIR MUSCLE IN THE SOUTH CHINA SEA, BUT ALSO WHY THE U.S. HAS BEEN DOING SO AS WELL.
WHEN THE DOLLAR GOES BY THE WAYSIDE, AND IT WILL, THE GOLD BACKED YUAN WILL BE THERE TO TAKE ITS PLACE. ALL OF THE POSTURING, MILITARY AND FINANCIAL, THROUGHOUT THE WORLD BY BOTH SIDES, IS QUICKLY INCREASING AND ONCE THE SPARK IS LIT, IT WILL BE GAME OVER FOR THE WESTERN ILLUMINATI POWERS.

Image result for bloomberg gold price 64,000? IMAGES

https://politicalvelcraft.org/2016/02/01/shanghai-shock-april-19-2016-yuan-based-gold-standard/

Shanghai Shock April 19, 2016: Yuan Based Gold Standard.

If China were to partially back its yuan with gold it would require a gold price of $64,000 per ounce, 50 times gold bullion’s price today, according to a recent article from respected Bloomberg Intelligence.


China has been quietly accumulating a significant amount of gold bullion in recent years. They are now the top producer and top consumer of gold in the world. They are believed to keep all of their domestic production, plus import significant amounts from other nations. In addition, they have been buying up gold mines around the globe at steep discounts and bringing home gold they had stored in London, New York and Switzerland.
After accumulating all of this gold, along with their close ally Russia, many believe they will eventually break the metal free from the price manipulation undertaken by the banks/governments in the United States and United Kingdom. Once price discovery moves from West to East, they will allow the price to float to free-market levels and the value of all the gold they have been accumulating will skyrocket.
Removing the gold price suppression will be accompanied by wholesale dumping of U.S. treasury bonds and test the world’s faith in the US dollar debt-based fiat currency system.
This will give China, Russia and others a greater influence in world financial markets and better stability in their currencies. It may give them a considerable strategic advantage over the United States, a nation that many believe no longer has the gold that they claim. Indeed, with a lack of a comprehensive audit and unwillingness of officials to allow one, many believe the gold is no longer in Fort Knox.
Now we move to the really interesting part of this story. Not only has China been accumulating huge amounts of gold (on and off record), but they also launched their own international gold trading platform on the SGE. It has become the largest physical gold exchange in the world, with an estimated 52 times more physical gold withdrawals versus the predominantly paper exchange of the COMEX.

Fast forward to the first week of 2016 and China is warning foreign banks that they must participate in Yuan-based gold price fixing or lose their Chinese gold import rights. This first-ever Chinese benchmark is set to launch in April of this year and could be a game-changer for gold prices moving forward.

Reuters reported today that:
China has warned foreign banks it could curb their operations in the world’s biggest bullion market if they refuse to participate in the planned launch of a yuan-denominated benchmark price for the metal, sources said.

The world’s top producer and consumer of gold has been pushing to be a price-setter for bullion as part of a broader drive to boost its influence on global markets.

Derived from a contract to be traded on the state-run Shanghai Gold Exchange, the Chinese benchmark is set to launch in April, potentially denting the relevance of the current global standard, the U.S. dollar-denominated London price.

In a trial run for the fix in April 2015, some foreign banks participated along with many major Chinese banks. Traders at those banks said earlier that while they were interested in the benchmarking process, their legal and compliance teams may be reluctant.

Perhaps a little sensationalized, but Jim Willie recently commented:
The Gold market cannot be fixed by paper gold on a repeated basis, surely not in perpuity. When the Shanghai shock comes, all the Paper Gold structures will fall, all the FOREX derivatives will collapse, all the control rooms will go into panic mode.

The Shanghai shock is not likely to materialize all at once and cause an immediate collapse of the dollar, the COMEX or our fiat monetary system. However, it is another nail in the proverbial coffin and significantly increases the odds of more honest price discovery in precious metals as it moves from West to East.

The red line in the chart below shows Asian gold reserves as a percentage of total gold reserves. The percentage has been rising steadily for decades, but the pace of the increase has picked up significantly since the 2008/09 financial crisis.
china gold

If you believe that the gold price has been suppressed in order to maintain faith in fiat money and allow governments to continue deficit spending to secure their power, it is logical to conclude that gold prices may rise sharply as the disconnect between paper and physical pricing intensifies.

And it would make sense for China, Russia and other BRICS nations to push for such a transition, as it would diminish the dominance of the United States in global trade and finance, leveling the playing field.

In any event, it will be an interesting development to watch during 2016. I believe it could be another catalyst in a long list that could cause a spike in gold and silver prices.

Keeping with the issue of official sales, governments at present only hold at most 60 million ounces of silver, as compared with 1 billion ounces of gold. Among those who run our world, silver is now far rarer than gold.

However the “natural” ratio including in ground is 9:1 silver/gold therefore if gold hits $64k silver is 9xs less at $7k.
http://www.reuters.com/article/china-gold-fix-idUSL3N17G1Z5
http://allnewspipeline.com/April_19th_Weeks_Away_From_Economic_Armageddon.php
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...bullion-s-price

Chinese Gold Standard Would Need a Rate 50 Times Bullion’s Price

Nicholas Larkin and Eddie van der Walt
May 20, 2015 — 6:16 AM CDT

A traditional gold standard, in which the precious metal backs the currency, is basically impossible at current prices due to the amount of metal needed and there’s no evidence the sixth-biggest bullion holder will adopt one, Bloomberg Intelligence said in reports published Wednesday. Any attempt probably would involve new technologies and depend on the ratio of what is backed, it said.

Chinese policy makers are trying to establish the yuan as a reserve currency, and backing it with gold would help attract foreign capital inflows, the Bloomberg research unit wrote. Theoretically, to create an exchange rate of one ounce of gold for every $64,000, the country would need about 10,000 metric tons of the metal, they estimated. That’s nine times the nation’s official holdings and about 6 percent of all the bullion ever mined globally.

“It would probably have to be very different than an old gold standard,” Kenneth Hoffman, the Princeton-based head of global metals and mining research at Bloomberg Intelligence, said in an interview in London on Tuesday. “They have all this currency out there, they want it all soaked up by central banks.”

Gold for immediate delivery traded at $1,207.89 an ounce in London on Wednesday.

In another scenario assuming an exchange rate at today’s price, China would need about 525,000 tons, Bloomberg Intelligence estimates. Only about 175,000 tons have ever been mined, according to the London-based World Gold Council.

“It wouldn’t be a traditional system where you walk into a bank and you walk out with an ounce of gold,” Hoffman said. “It would have to be something new and different
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/17/16 04:34 PM

Potential 2 weeks or so Bank Holiday Coming

As I said, no one really knows what this April 19th gold backed announcement will bring. What I'm seeing circulating around is many speculates that there will be a worldwide currency reset. If that happens, this means they will need to close all the banks for a few weeks to accommodate such major action.

My hunch it is not going to happen because I would expect some kind of preparation announcement prior, but I really don't know as we have seen this past 4 years the Chinese and other nations was very verbal about their intention to REFORM the Global System that leads to a major Banking & Currency RESET. This Yuan gold backed currency Announcement could automatically means an immediate World Wide currency reset or it may not.

The truth is I really do not know if there will be a currency reset on April 19th. However, it wouldn't hurt to be prepared to have some cash on hand and extra food to cover for 2 weeks of potential "bank holiday".


The Arch of the Temple of Baal and the Arch of Triumph could be the same

Another thing to watch is, I discovered that its possible that Mystery Babylon never abandoned its project to erect the arch of the Temple of Baal. It wouldn't be out of their character to device this ruse to get us all off their back.

http://removingtheshackles.blogspot.ca/2016/04/tn-report-to-baal-or-not-to-baal-that.html

Just a warning the lady in this video does at time use vulgar language but she does good research.

This is the main article she analyses and the list below is only some points she makes amoung many others.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/...ated-in-london/

Originally Posted By: elle's partial note of video
1. When you are looking for information for the Arch of Triumph, you find absolutely nothing prior to Oct 4th 2015 when Mainstream Media(MSM) first announced that ISIS supposively destroyed it.
2. When you look at historical data, this arch was never been called the Arch of Triumph, but was called the Monumental Arch.
3. MSM articles are confusing in whether or not this Monumental Arch was destroyed or not or is currently destroyed or not; however somehow they got Million of pictures from it.
4. The link article above says that they have been working on this Arch of Triumph for the past 2 months. ??? Well 5 days ago we were led to think they were working on the Arch of Baal and that was just cancelled, then how could they had been already been working on the Arch of “triumph” two months ago?
5. The Arch is carved in Tuscany Italy in the Carrara workshop where Michael Michelangelo carved his stuff, but the marble(7 blocks) to make the Arch comes from Egypt?
6. Here’s some interesting statement saying to change history???”
We are very happy to do this and we feel that it will be something that can change the history of what happens,’ he tells me.

If his syntax sounds chronologically confused, it is no more so than the arch project itself, which takes the memory of a destroyed past and recreates it in physical form in the present, with an eye very much on the future.



7. This statement is also confusing : “When the IDA revealed last December that it was intending to use its data and expertise to build not one but two replica Palmyra arches – to be unveiled simultaneously in Trafalgar Square in London and Times Square in New York – it generated headlines across the world.
Since then there has been some backtracking on the original idea. There will be no simultaneous unveiling in New York – they may transport the London arch there later, or build another one – and the Palmyra arch that is being reconstructed is no longer the entrance to the Temple of Bel (which survived an attempt to blow it up in August 2015) but the Arch of Triumph (partially destroyed in October) formerly located at one end of the Great Colonnade
".
8. Here’s another interesting statement from the article : “Meanwhile, the archaeology establishment has been watching all this not knowing whether to applaud or shake their heads….”What I approve of is collecting a record of and documenting vast numbers of sites,’ said Tim Schadla-Hall, reader in public archaeology at University College London, referring to the Million Image Database project.

The replica arch is less to his liking or comprehension. ‘It seems to me it’s a bizarre expenditure of money, possibly with worthy but misinformed aims, to promote something which isn’t a real past, in an entirely reproduced form. I don’t get it; I find it very, very odd. I’ve got better uses for the money.’


Again April 19th is, not only the 10th of Abib, the Chinese Gold backed announcement, but also Baal beginning 13 days Feast date to start their blood sacrifices. So we may see some type of false flag orchestrated "natural" disasters, or terror attack, or whatever else during those 13 days that might also come.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/18/16 06:35 PM

My comment : This is not official yet and I got this link from today's Benjamin Fulford's weekly report. It's probable that this is the supplemental big announcement coming with the April 19 gold backed Yuan announcement.

If this is so -- WOW -- this is a radical move. I can understand why such a move is needed. Such move would force everyone to back their currencies with gold. It will be the only way to trade with the other gold backed currency countries. This would be a very clever move!

"In a shocking move likely to crush the US economy overnight, China is refusing to make its new gold-backed Yuan, convertible from or to US Dollars"

CHINA SAYS "NO DOLLARS" FOR NEW YUAN

https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/1152

Post by U.S.Reporter - Apr 13, 2016

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In a shocking move likely to crush the US economy overnight, China is refusing to make its new gold-backed Yuan, convertible from or to US Dollars. The new Yuan will be introduced next Tuesday, April 19.

When the International Monetary Fund (IMF) agreed to add the Yuan to the basket of world currencies used for Global Reserves and International Trade, they wanted China to make the Yuan more reliable as a currency. Since then, China has almost un-pegged its Yuan from the Dollar, allowing its value to fluctuate on world markets.

But for years, China has been amassing huge amounts of gold bullion; some have said their appetite for bullion has been "staggering." And with a new gold-backed Yuan to be issued next Tuesday, the entire world will have a choice of a new currency to use for international trade: The old US Dollar which is backed by nothing, or the new Chinese Yuan, which is backed by gold. Which currency would YOU use?

When this new currency is issued, countries that have been forced to use US Dollars for decades, and have had to keep billions of dollars in their foreign currency reserves, will be free to dump those dollars. But they won't be able to dump them to China for the new gold-backed, Yuan!

China has reportedly decided "there can be no conversion of gold-backed Yuan to or from US dollars." What China fears is that many countries around the world will want to trade their reserve US dollars for the new Yuan, leaving China with mountains of worthless US dollars. China already has several trillion in US dollar reserves and does not want or need more.

If news of this decision by China is correct, then countries around the world may just have to decide whether or not they wish to continue trading with the USA at all?

The upheaval this could cause as early as next week, would be staggering.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/18/16 07:17 PM

My comment: If I'm reading this correctly, it looks like the 5 Biggest US banks are on "trial" to prove they are viable with a bankruptsy plan that doesn't depend on the taxpayers to bail them out. They have until October 1st to prove this, if not, they have another 2 years to sell their assets and rectify their "weaknesses"; if they don't succeed -- they will be dissolve. WOW!!! That's big GOOD news.

The US Banks are not the only ones that are being investigated but also European Banks also : "Regulators are also continuing to asses the plans of four foreign banking organizations – Barclays PLC, Credit Suisse Group, Deutsche Bank AG and UBS."

‘Not credible’: Big 5 US banks lack disaster-readiness, violate Dodd-Frank Act, regulators say

https://www.rt.com/usa/339518-banks-disaster-readiness-regulators/

Published time: 14 Apr, 2016

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Wary of a repeat of taxpayer bailouts for “too big to fail” banks, the Federal Reserve and Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation issued a first-time joint statement criticizing five top banks’ strategies for avoiding bankruptcy as “not credible.”

The five banks, JPMorgan Chase & Co., Bank of America Corp., Wells Fargo & Co., Bank of New York Mellon Corp. and State Street Corp., with a total of about $5.6 trillion in assets, were among eight bank whose plans were evaluated.

The agencies have jointly determined that each of the 2015 resolutions plans of… [the five banks] was not credible or would not facilitate an orderly resolutions under the US Bankruptcy Code, the statutory standard established in the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act,” said the Federal Reserve and the FDIC in a press release on Wednesday.


Under the Dodd-Frank Act, a bank with total consolidated assets of $50 billion must have a plan, or a “living will,” in the event of bankruptcy. Nearly a decade after the financial crisis, and a slow recovery for the economy, Washington is keen to avoid a repeat of the bank bailouts.

“The FDIC and Federal Reserve are committed to carrying out the stator mandate that systematically important financial institutions demonstrate a clear path to orderly failure under bankruptcy at no cost to taxpayers,” FDIC Chairman Martin Gruenberg said in a statement, according to Reuters. “Today’s action is a significant step toward achieving that goal.”


The agency’s vice chairman, Thomas Hoenig, told Reuters, however, the plans showed that no firm is “capable of being resolved in an orderly fashion through bankruptcy.”

The goal to end ‘too big to fail’ and protect the American taxpayer by ending bailouts remains just that: only a goal,” he said.


Reuters reported the banks failed in 2008 for reasons “ranging from the way liquidity would be housed and shuffled among domestic and foreign subsidiaries to the manner in which executives would communicate problems as they arose during a crisis.”

Banks have until October 1 to resolve the weaknesses of their plans and if they fail to meet the deadline, they are “subject to more stringent prudential requirements.”

Those requirements could be leverage, stringent capital or liquidity requirements, as well as restrictions on growth, activities or operations of the firm or its subsidiaries. If deficiencies persist for two years, then the banks will have to divest their assets. Today’s announcement is the start of a regulatory chain that could end with breaking up the banks.



Weaknesses were also identified by regulators in resolution plans for Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, but the Fed and FDIC did agree on the deficiencies. The FDIC said the plan submitted by Goldman Sachs was “not credible” and “would not facilitate an orderly resolution” for bankruptcy. The Fed said Morgan Stanley’s plan was “not credible.”

"We're going to do everything possible to fix this issue," said Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan, on a call with analysts Wednesday. "We have tons of liquidity. It's more about reporting legal entities."

Wells Fargo said it has made strides to get up to code, and it will meet the October 1 deadline.

"We were disappointed to learn that our 2015 resolution plan submission was determined to have deficiencies in certain areas," a spokesman for Wells Fargo told CNN Money. "We understand the importance of these findings and we will address them."

Citigroup’s resolution plan received the least criticism from regulators.

Regulators are also continuing to asses the plans of four foreign banking organizations – Barclays PLC, Credit Suisse Group, Deutsche Bank AG and UBS.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/20/16 03:57 PM

April 19th:Gold Backed Yuan

My comment : My hunch was correct (based on MidelKoop interview) that it will be a slower process than what other anticipated. However, China did backed their Yuan with Gold yesterday, but I haven't heard any other major announcement with it. It is a big announcement of itself and this moved will have a big impact.

China is very patient and is a reasonable voice that takes one step at a time steadily advancing towards it's goal to reform the Economic System to something transparent, right, and fair to all nations interest.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-19...over-price-gold

Here's is what Stephen Jones comments about it(underlined are his) :

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Today the Shanghai Gold Exchange launched their new gold price fix denominated in China's currency. Because their currency (the yuan, or renminbi) is still not fully exchangeable around the world, the influence of this new Exchange will be limited for now, but it will grow as the yuan itself gains influence. Today the prices of both gold and silver rose, with silver rising more than 4% to nearly $17/oz.

It is also being reported that the Shanghai Exchange is pricing both gold and silver, and that the Exchange has purchased about 1100 TONS of silver just since last December.

https://srsroccoreport.com/why-are-the-chinese-stockpiling-silver-big-price-move-coming/

Perhaps this has caught the markets by surprise. It appears that they have been the biggest buyers of silver in the past eight months, purchasing close to 1500 tons in that time. It appears that the time of low prices is nearly over. Apparently, JPMorgan believes the same, as it has accumulated even more silver than the Shanghai Exchange, although the investment bank has done so over a period of five years.

Stephen Leeb, one of the top money managers in the world, believes that the price of gold will soon go up to $10,000 to $20,000 per ounce, and silver will be at least $200-400 per ounce. He told King World News:
http://kingworldnews.com/chinas-new-gold-fix-first-step-in-moving-the-price-of-gold-to-10000-20000/
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“What China has essentially done today is introduced their own gold fix priced in yuan. Once the world views gold in terms of yuan per grams of gold as the way of measuring and trading gold, that will mean that China is officially controlling the world’s gold market. You have to also remember that China has already acknowledged that they want gold to play a much more important role in the world monetary system

“And if China is controlling the world’s gold market, gold will start to play a much more important monetary role. The reality is that China has downplayed the true amount of their massive gold holdings, and we are nearing the point where the Chinese will announce that they are the largest holders of gold in the world. This will put China front and center in terms of controlling the global monetary system and it will also put China in a position to dominate the world economy.

Meanwhile, the West is desperately trying to stop the power from heading to the East. Regardless, this world is changing very quickly and the power is moving toward the East, and investors had better take note and position themselves accordingly. What I am saying, Eric, is that investors better own gold and continue to buy gold just like the Chinese because the price is ultimately headed to somewhere between $10,000 and $20,000, and it will be the Chinese that make that happen for their own benefit.”


It may take some months or even years to reach such heights, but I am more interested in seeing silver hit $50/oz, as that is the sign I am looking for.

- See more at: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.AVNIZOze.dpuf
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/24/16 03:34 PM

My comment: In addition to the recent game changer Gold backed Yuan, there's been major tension between Saudi Arabia and the US last week regarding the disclosure of 911. Saudi Arabia has been threatening the US that it will sell all their US treasuries if the US implied the in the involvement of 911.

Is This The End Of The U.S Dollar? Geopolitical Moves “Obliterate U.S Petrodollar Hegemony “

http://www.shtfplan.com/commodities/is-t...gemony_04212016

Mac Slavo
April 21st, 2016

It seems the end really is nigh for the U.S. dollar.

And the mudfight for global dominance and currency war couldn’t be more ugly or dramatic.

The Saudis are now openly threatening to take down the U.S. economy in the ongoing fallout over collapsing oil prices and tense geopolitical events involving the 9/11 cover-up. The New York Times reports:

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Saudi Arabia has told the Obama administration and members of Congress that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars’ worth of American assets held by the kingdom if Congress passes a bill that would allow the Saudi government to be held responsible in American courts for any role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

China has been working for years to establish global currency status, and will strengthen the yuan by backing it with gold in moves clearly designed to cripple the role of the dollar. Zero Hedge reports:

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China’s shift to an official local-currency-based gold fixing is “the culmination of a two-year plan to move away from a US-centric monetary system,” according to Bocom strategist Hao Hong. In an insightfully honest Bloomberg TV interview, Hong admits that “by trading physical gold in renminbi, China is slowly chipping away at the dominance of US dollars.”

Putin also waits in the shadows, making similar moves and creating alliances to out-balance the United States with a growing Asian economy on the global stage.

Luke Rudkowski of WeAreChange asks “Is This The End of the U.S. Dollar?” in the video below.

He writes:

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In this video Luke Rudkowski reports on the breaking news of both China and Saudi Arabia making geopolitical moves that could cause a U.S economic collapse and obliteration of the U.S hegemony petrodollar. We go over China’s new gold backed yuan that cannot be traded in U.S dollars and rising tension with Saudi Arabia threatening economic blackmail if their role in 911 is exposed.


Visit WeAreChange.org where this video report was first published.

The Federal Reserve, Henry Kissinger, the Rockefellers and their allies created the petrodollar and insisted upon the world using the U.S. dollar to buy oil, placing debt in American currency and entire countries under the yoke of the West.

But that paradigm has been crumbling as world order shifts away from U.S. hegemony.

It is a matter of when – not if – these events will change the U.S. financial landscape forever.

As SHTF has warned, major events are taking place, and no one can say if stability will be here tomorrow.

Stay vigilant, and prepare yourself and your family as best as you can.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/24/16 03:48 PM

My comment : Here's more recent news compilation by Stephen about the role of Saudi and China in this coming Babylonian Collapse.

More about the Tension between Saudi & US and China's Gold Backed Yuan

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...h.vs5nspas.dpuf

Apr 20, 2016

"President Obama went to Saudi Arabia today and was greeted at the airport in Riyadh by the local governor. King Salman showed his displeasure with Obama by skipping his arrival, after greeting other Mideast leaders at the airport. This is how diplomats snub one another politely.

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/04/20/saudi-snub-royal-family-skips-obamas-arrival/21348250/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk3&pLid=1052348993_htmlws-sb-bb

The king did meet the president later, where Obama "cleared the air," and the BBC reported "frank and open discussions." That is media language for "they had a big argument that resolved nothing."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/20/politics/obama-saudi-arabia-tensions/

The diplomats are now comparing US-Saudi relations to a bad marriage, where the two are "stuck with each other," even though they strongly dislike each other. Remember the early days of Obama when he was welcomed as a hero in Saudi Arabia and Egypt as the first American Muslim president? What a difference seven years makes!

Since Saudi Arabia has been on my watch list since the early 1990's as a potential candidate to fulfill Jeremiah 19:11 (destroying Jerusalem), this stormy relationship may have great prophetic significance in the time ahead.

The BBC news also made mention that the Saudi war against Yemen was being paid for (at least in part) by the US government. Did I miss that report earlier? The Saudi's indiscriminate bombing campaign against civilians is being called a war crime around the world. The US is reported to be unhappy that the Saudi's refuse to bomb al-quaida in Yemen, while eagerly bombing civilians.

Meanwhile, the Saudis are unhappy that the US is telling them to get along with the other kids in the neighborhood (i.e., Iran). It appears that the US "coalition" fighting the Assad regime in Syria is fraying at the seams. And the low, low price of oil is making everyone (who owns oil wells) angry and impatient as well.

A few weeks ago oil prices began to rise a bit on the news that the OPEC countries (plus Russia) would be meeting in order to limit production and thus raise oil prices. The meeting took place, but they still could not agree. A commentator on the BBC was astounded that they would meet without some sort of agreement already worked out behind the scenes. To meet without a viable plan has only drawn attention to the problem and made things worse for the oil producers.

I smell some chaos going on in the heart of Babylon. Did God just confound their languages? Again?

This chaos came just as the Shanghai Gold Exchange opened for business on April 19, and it seems that some big buyers pushed up gold/silver prices considerably. Especially silver, which rose about 75 cents to about $17/oz. That's $3/oz higher than it was just a few weeks ago. With the big banks on the ropes over getting caught rigging the markets, perhaps they no longer dare to slam down gold/silver prices as they have done in past years.

Now that the Shanghai Exchange is up and running in a small way, all that remains now is for it to begin to expand to other nations. The first goal appears to be to link Shanghai with Moscow and thus control prices in two of the three largest gold-buying sprees in the world today. (The third big buyer is India, which will probably join this Exchange soon as well, since they are already aligned as BRICS nations and are founding members of the AIIB.

https://www.rt.com/business/340189-russia-china-gold-trading/

The Bank of Russia and the People's Bank of China want to create a joint platform that would unite gold trading by the world's two biggest gold buying countries.

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“BRICS countries are large economies with large reserves of gold and an impressive volume of production and consumption of this precious metal. In China, the gold trade is conducted in Shanghai, in Russia it is in Moscow. Our idea is to create a link between the two cities in order to increase trade between the two markets," First Deputy Governor of the Russian Central Bank Sergey Shvetsov told TASS.

China is the world's largest gold producer. Last year it produced 490 tons. Russia is third after Australia with about 295 tons produced last year. Overall, the countries make up 25 percent of the world gold production.

At the same time, the central banks of Russia and China are the world’s biggest gold buyers. Since the end of 2008 the gold reserves of China have nearly tripled - from 600 to 1,762 tons.

More than 200 years ago, the New World Order was conceived and established as a US motto: Novus ordeo seclorum. Rather, it was the Illuminati motto setting forth their plan for this nation. Of course, the motto meant one thing for the people and quite another for those who proposed it.

But today things are shifting once again. The Babylonian oligarchs are still trying to fulfill their plan, but the kings of the east are hijacking it. You see, the real issue is WHO WILL CONTROL IT? So the Illuminati plan from 200 years ago is slipping from their grasp as the western banking system continues its slow-motion train wreck. They know the current system is doomed, so they are feverishly trying to use this collapse to their advantage, so that they can somehow come out on top.

However, the definition of the New World Order is now shifting to mean a change from fiat to asset-backed currencies, all under new management. A shift in empire is going on behind the scenes. But what neither side in this battle truly understands is that the real winner will be Jesus Christ and His Kingdom. Just as God used King Cyrus as a "messiah" (Isaiah 45:1) to do His will in the overthrow of Babylon, so also is this being repeated in our time. We know this because it was prophesied in Revelation 16:12 that the original overthrow of Babylon had set the pattern for the overthrow of a future "Mystery Babylon."

Toward the end of 2014 I wrote how we ought to watch 2014-2017, and we are now midway into this time frame. The divine plan is moving along nicely, and fortunately for us, the bad guys don't believe it, yet at the same time they are doing what God said they would do. God has a way of using vessels of dishonor as easily as He uses vessels of honor. He does this to prove His sovereignty, as Isaiah 45 and Romans 9 tell us. So as Jesus said, "when you see these things come to pass, LOOK UP, for your redemption is drawing near.

Remember: an optimist looks at your eyes; a pessimist looks at your feet.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/24/16 04:27 PM

My Comment : According to Andrew Maquire, China has Checkmates the West with its recent Gold backed Yuan move. He said in his interview, that now the West fiat dollar debt system train wreck has changed geared and moving quite fast to its destruction. To listen to the interview go to the source link.

Andrew Maguire – Massive Pressure For Gold Price Reset As China Checkmates The West In The Gold War

http://kingworldnews.com/whistleblower-a...n-the-gold-war/

April 22, 2016

Quote:
Today whistleblower and London metals trader Andrew Maguire spoke with King World News about the massive pressure for a gold price reset, Deutsche Bank’s confession, and China checkmating the West in the gold war.

Andrew Maguire: “Eric, what people are witnessing are the first winds (early stages) of a perfect storm brewing for much higher gold and silver prices. This is because the physical market is beginning to dictate price and to constrain what the paper market actors can do…

Andrew Maguire continues: “Let’s look at some of the catalysts driving this perfect storm. This week we had the launch of the long awaited Shanghai Gold Exchange fix, something that has been purposefully underplayed by the mainstream media. Then, hot on the heels of the SGE launch, the PBOC (People’s Bank of China) and Russia’s central bank announced a joint gold trading platform. This is an act of war against Western central planners, who have played right into their golden hands.

But I think it is important to take a look at the history of how this new SGE fix has come about and why and how it was so hard fought by Western central planners, as this draws attention to the underestimated implications this will have on price discovery, which up until now has been the domain of the paper markets.

The West Is Now In Serious Trouble As China Advances Master Plan To Dominate The World China Checkmates The West In The Gold War

More importantly, it illustrates that Western central planners have lost the war against China’s move to wrest away control and to consolidate the gold market, a market that was once firmly under Western control. Obviously, this has huge implications. Given that there are billions of dollars of underwater derivatives under threat and price is increasingly being set outside of the (bullion bank) market makers control, the pressures for a gold price reset are massive.

With China playing the long game, the (upside) battle is now won. But knowing the LBMA bullion banks would try to skirt the SGE fix, China forewarned these (Western bullion) banks that if they didn’t participate, they would be barred from participating in the Chinese gold markets. Furthermore, any manipulation attempts by the bullion banks would be dealt with the Chinese way, not the bought and paid for Western regulators’ way. So this is a true game-changer.

And you can add into the bullish mix Deutsche Bank admitting to colluding with several other bullion banks in order to rig bullion prices. Aside from the multi-billion dollar civil law suits that will ensue, some of which are already filed, the key element here is the agreement by Deutsche Bank to release transcripts that prove collusion. This is a huge deal.

Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Deutsche Banks Confession As China Checkmates The West In The Gold War

Whistleblower Andrew Maguire And Deutsche Bank’s Confession

Perhaps Deutsche Bank will attempt to seek immunity from prosecution, but given the banks they will formally name that will be at the center of the evidence I provided to the regulators in 2009 – 2011, it looks like these regulators will finally be forced to act. Either way, once it is realized that the true gold price is as yet undiscovered and related to billions of dollars worth of entrenched naked short derivative bets, the sharks will smell blood and watch out above (as the price of gold will soar).

Right now the Western central planners are losing control of the precious metals market reigns, as evidenced by the distinct changes in market behavior. Historical correlations are evaporating and we are seeing a push into physical on a scale I have never witnessed before. All dips are going to be bought and discounts from here on will be shallow, and the only thing that can save Wester central planners is a…

To continue listening to the powerful KWN audio interview with whistleblower Andrew Maguire CLICK HERE OR ON THE IMAGE BELOW.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/30/16 10:23 PM

My comment : This is one of the best Jim Willie interview I’ve heard up to now. Very fast moving pace interview covering all key events that has happened since beginning 2016 revealing some of China’s moves to end Mystery Babylon’s Empire. The interview is done by Rick Wlles who is well informed and is good in asking very key questions. At the end Rick does a pretty good summary of the interview and give his own perspective of an end game move the Rothschild Cabals might do to Saudi Arabia to use them as their scapegoat. I think Rick Wlles scenario is quite probable. I don’t think the US military will succeed or go very far to do “m) and n)” of the potential scenario; but I would add to his scenario that the Saudi will likely launch a nuclear bomb to Jerusalem in retaliation to put an end of this long Zionist pursuit to dominate the Middle East and the rest of the World. For the US government is a Zionist led Country(like Canada and other Western countries). In another word the Rothschild and the other Cabals family are Zionists.

Thus the Saudi would fulfill in full the prophesy of Jeremiah 19 and Isaiah 29 with a complete and final destruction of Jerusalem with its Zionist Zealots plans to rule the world. Also this would reveal the heart and the roots(Edomite-Judahite) of this Zionists entity. Since the Zionist have resolve a long time ago that they won't wait for the Lord to fulfill prophesy anymore; that they would fullfill these by force. The destruction of Jerusalem would put an end of their fleshy pursuits to fulfill prophesy on their own power which is the core essence of what is the Zionist is all about. It's too bad that it has to finish that way, but that's what prophesy seems to be pointing to.

Rick Wlles Interviews Jim Willie on April 29th

http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.co...-by-Youtube.mp3

Here’s Rick verbal summary (@1hr 29min mark) of Jim Willie's points made after the Interview :

1. A parydime shift in motion right now of wealth and power moving from West to East.
2. He inticipate some type of systemic Lehman Brothers type of crisis will happen very soon.
3.He believes China is wrestling with the West to gain some type of control of the global gold market
4. He expects China the unveil a reimbi Gold base interest contract
5. China will “ping” the US financial system overnight by evaluating gold and silver on the Shanghai market higher than the New York market opening in the Chinese game plan to end the West manipulation of the price of precious metal.
6. Ancient Empires are awakening simultaneously : China, Russia, Persia(which is modern Iran), and India. These 4 nations forms the nucleus of the Euro-Eurasian trade zone.
7. Britain will join the EU who will eventually align with Russia and China. He expects this for Germany as well.
8. Regarding the high levels & numerous meetings of the Federal Reserve with high level governmental officials that old patriarchal Chinese Dynasty(White Dragon Societies) convenes the meetings of Yellen, Obama, and Biden and told them what is going to happen to the US dollar very soon. They were informed that the US Dollar will no longer be accepted around the world for global trade.
9. Jim also expects that the Rothschild controlled Central banks and franchises will be dissolves.
10. That gold should be priced at $10,000 or higher per oz
11. That the Rothschild Luciferian Cabal is finished with the Saudi Royal Family and will dump them and eventually even murder some of them.
"

My comment: Concerning the last point Jim Willie makes, Rick Wlles expands on it and makes his own observation with the following comments.

I’m quoting Rick Wlles the best I can below :

That after 15 years of the 911, the Saudis via MSM(mainstream media) are suddenly demanding that Obama declassifies 28 pages from Congressional investigation that legendatly blames the Royal Saudis family for assisting the 911 hi-jacked planes that flue in the buildings. Why now? Why is there clamor now to release the documents? Believes that the Cabal needs a scapegoat to blame a bank system implosion which would be cause by Saudis Arabia cancelling the Petro dollar. Jim briefly hinted that late June or early July could be the time that trouble intensify in financial markets. Late June and early July is also the timeline where Obama may release the classified documents that links Saudi Arabia with the 911 attack. How convenient. What a cover story.

“Here’s what I mean: We know that Paul Ryan and a delegation of congressional leaders and secretary Ash Carter and Obama, traveled to Ryad to meet with the Saudi King and his son the crown prince. We can only assume that the meetings of so many hi-level officials running to Saudi Arabia was to stop Saudi Arabia from dumping the Petro dollar deal and joining up with China. Immediately after the meeting, the MSM started talking about Obama releasing the classified 911 documents that would implicate the Saudi Arabia. If Saudi Arabia dumps the dollar and hitches his wagon to the Chinese star, it would immediadly spark a financial panic in America. We are told today that Obama may release those documents in June.”

“So consider this scenario:
a) Obama, Ash Carter, Paul Ryan and others fails to convince the Saudis to not to ditch the Petro dollar deal initiated by Henry Kissinger in 1973
b) Washington realizes that the Petro dollar is finish
c) Thus Obama releases the 911 documents
d) The MSM whip a fury in the news in America against the Saudi Royal family
e) Saudi Arabia publicaly sever his relationship with America and teams up with Beijing, China
f) The American are told that it was done in retaliation for Obama releasing the 911 documents
g) The market goes beserk :
h) financial panic sweep the USA,
i) Obama force to close the banks,
j) The MSM blames Saudi Arabia for the financial panic
k) A blood lost is loosed in America
l) The Public demands the destruction of Saudi Arabia and execution of its leaders
m) The US military launches an attack on Riyadh
n) The US special forces hunts down the members of the Saudi family
o) Meanwhile the wealth of America flows out and goes East
p) And a New World Order is born."

“Potentially we can be a few months away from such scenario.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/03/16 04:29 PM

I understand the implied importance on gold. I believe Porter Stansberry also is big on keeping gold for the coming crisis.

As Seventh-day Adventist Christians, I hope our gold is a tried and true character prepared for Heaven. Amen?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/04/16 01:58 AM

Amen. We don't need to be clinging to pavement!


I think it was Jim Willie I had listened to. A photo of a donkey and gambling while he talked in the background. Just had bad vibes about his attitude and the odd video....
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/04/16 09:03 PM

Amen!
Eternity will be spent in peace at the feet of The Rock of Ages, not toting heavy sacks of yellow pebbles about to finance a millennial kingdom. As if we will need
asphalt to purchase the homes that Christ left to prepare for us!
The gold of this world will be tread underfoot.
Posted By: Charity

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/07/16 06:33 PM

Elle, it's beyond me to predict how things will unfold in the global financial markets but it's good you're giving us a heads up. It amazes me that the American dollar hasn't devalued before now. I think the Lord has been merciful because so many of us are not ready for the consequences. But, we need to realize things could change dramatically and rapidly. As all economists and historians know, you can't keep printing money forever without any value backing it.
Posted By: Charity

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/07/16 06:47 PM

I try to limit the amount of time I spend on New World Order material because it's too speculative. I don't think even the top players know how this will unfold. They are reacting to events and they have more control but they don't have the prophetic gift.

One man that I listen to occasionally is Peter Schiff. He's another gold promoter so you have to filter what he says through that lense but his comments on the fundamentals of economic principles are sound in my opinion. For example, Donald Trump plans to impose tariffs to promote American industry. Schiff says what's needed is not tariffs but superior, efficiently produced products that can compete globally such as are produced in Germany. He says Trump is wrong that China has taken advantage of the US through unfair trade. It's the other way around. We've bought their products with devalued dollars and debt that we can't sustain. We have taken advantage of the Chinese. And he says a lot of other things that make quiet good sense.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/08/16 12:14 PM

As far economics go, we can invent any economic structure we want. If we understand how to manage cash, credit and interest rates, we would realize we never need a central bank. I mean, the first two attempts at central banks in the US failed! And the third, being the Federal Reserve, isn't worth two cents.

So, the destruction of all these economies and currencies are staged and scripted and Christ will fix it all when He comes.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/08/16 02:04 PM

i think i just destroyed my laptop with water. it might take awhile before i can have it fixed or replaced. So I don't know when I'll be able to post again. Sorry for that.
Posted By: Charity

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/08/16 02:35 PM

Sorry about your laptop Elle. Maybe use a hair dryer and then if you have a dehydrator put it in that at low heat - 110. Try drying it out for several days if needed. Peace and prayers.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/09/16 02:10 AM

Tx for the good suggestion Mark. I did use the hair dryer but didn't think about the dehydrator. I will do that and hopefully the damage are not too severe that it will work again.

Originally Posted By: markS
I try to limit the amount of time I spend on New World Order material because it's too speculative.

For sure their futur forecast are speculative ... just like most of ours too but at least we have the general outlines whereas they don't.

Originally Posted By: markS
I don't think even the top players know how this will unfold. They are reacting to events and they have more control but they don't have the prophetic gift.

I agree that the top players of Mystery Babylon are reacting to events; however the top players of China and Russia -- they have a plan .... and their plan is in accordance to the Lord's plan in terms to free the people of the world and reform the Banking System.


Originally Posted By: MarkS
One man that I listen to occasionally is Peter Schiff. He's another gold promoter so you have to filter what he says through that lense but his comments on the fundamentals of economic principles are sound in my opinion.

I've listened to Peter Schiff a few times. Yes he's sound like most of the non-babylonian supporters economist. What I like about these guys is they gives us the latest news and explains these economic concepts that are not all the time straight forward for us, by which these are often repeated from an individual to another.

Originally Posted By: MarkS
For example, Donald Trump plans to impose tariffs to promote American industry. Schiff says what's needed is not tariffs but superior, efficiently produced products that can compete globally such as are produced in Germany. He says Trump is wrong that China has taken advantage of the US through unfair trade. It's the other way around. We've bought their products with devalued dollars and debt that we can't sustain. We have taken advantage of the Chinese. And he says a lot of other things that make quiet good sense.

Trump is not the most informed. It will be interesting to see what will happen with the election. I have no clue what will happen for the election, but for sure the US(& Canada) currency will devalue significantly compare to other nations. That means the table will turn around. We won't be able to spend anymore like we have, and get back into manufacturing while our wages are cut back significantly.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/04/16 07:05 PM

My Comment : Not much significant news since May 8th when I lost my computer. There were some little interesting news of the ongoing slow implosion of Mystery Babylon system and the progression of the new Economic Restructure as listed below.


The Big News often falls on the Feasts Days

I have mentioned in the beginning of the year that the big news and many development usually comes during the feasts times on both the Julian Calendar and the Lord's Jubilee calendar. So we saw big news in Mid January which is a "type" of the first month feasts at Passover. Then on the actual Passover Feast dates, China announced that their Yuan is now backed by gold. We also had many other news during those dates.

The next importante dates to watch is July (the 7th month of the Julian Calendar)-- 1st, 10th, 15th and 22nd -- which will give us an indication of what will happen on the fall feasts dates of the Jubilee Calendar.


News Updates since May 8th

There were a few articles that I wanted to posts here since my computer lost but some it's a question if I can remember the title and find the place I read these. For now, the easiest thing for me is to provide the links of the news Stephen Jones commented in his blog :

May 16 th --Revolution in the Vatican: Inside the Vatican is split and at war since Pope Francis did some major cleanup. Steven did some interesting digging about the history of the Vatican since it received its deadly wound. Many think that the Vatican currently runs the world, but I agree with Stephen's view that the Vatican wound was healed and lost control to the 2nd beast of Rev 13 that came out of the earth. Here's a link of the history details that is a good read and something we need to investigate further for our own personal understanding of the current world affairs. The Guardians of Papal Treasure

May 16th -- China's ICBC Bank Purchases London Bank Vaults : I have posted in Jan 2016 that China had purchased Deutch's Bank gold and silver Vault, now(may 16) they are purchasing Barcley's London gold vaults.

May 17th --George Soros betting on Gold and against S&P

May 18th -- Saudi Woes may Change the World

May 24th -- Court Ruling could Bankrupt 16 largest Banks

May 27th -- CDC Busted when forced to Reveal Incriminating Documents : the CDC knew for years that the immunization caused autism.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/16/16 06:08 PM

"Brexit"

My comment : June 23rd (the 2nd day of Tabernacle) is the "Brexit" vote -- Is Britain exiting the EU?. It appears that the majority leans toward an "Exit" of the EU. Even the biggest newspaper in the UK encourages it's readers to vote for the Brexit.

Brexit Odds Hit Record High After Biggest UK Newspaper Urges Brits To Vote "Leave".

Today Switzerland withdraws longstanding application to join EU.

The fall of the EU will add to the ongoing economic collapse. Here's Steen Jakobsen's opinion given last Febuary 2016 what the "Brexit" means if it happens :

Steen Jakobsen Explains What Brexit Really Means: "No Good Outcomes To This"

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/16/16 06:16 PM

My Comment : The Lord does speaks to His people thru the events. Here's an recent example discerned by Stephen Jones.

Mina, Mina, Tekel Upharsin

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/06-2016/the-tekel-sign/

Jun 15, 2016

Quote:
"First we saw the Mina, Mina sign at the time of the Orlando shooting. Justice Mina was the mother of one of the victims, and Police Chief Mina is a Justice of the Peace. I explained this “Mina” sign here:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/06-2016/mina-mina-in-orlando/

UPDATE: Mina Justice called her son, who is an ACCOUNTANT. Mina/Mene signifies that Babylon's account was being audited by the Great Accountant.

Now we see “Tekel banknotes” at the Dundee Design Festival.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/loc...esign-festival/

Perhaps we should watch for the third sign: Peretz, Peres, upharsin (the plural form), or even Paris? (See Daniel 5:25-28.)

Are we seeing the handwriting on the wall for Mystery Babylon? Is Justice coming?

UPDATE: The Brexit vote is to be held on June 23, in which the British are deciding whether to DIVIDE themselves from the EU. Perhaps this will prove to be the third step in the handwriting on the wall, but we could also see other signs.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/17/16 01:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My Comment : The Lord does speaks to His people thru the events. Here's an recent example discerned by Stephen Jones.

Mina, Mina, Tekel Upharsin

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/06-2016/the-tekel-sign/

Jun 15, 2016

Quote:
"First we saw the Mina, Mina sign at the time of the Orlando shooting. Justice Mina was the mother of one of the victims, and Police Chief Mina is a Justice of the Peace. I explained this “Mina” sign here:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/06-2016/mina-mina-in-orlando/

UPDATE: Mina Justice called her son, who is an ACCOUNTANT. Mina/Mene signifies that Babylon's account was being audited by the Great Accountant.

Now we see “Tekel banknotes” at the Dundee Design Festival.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/loc...esign-festival/

Perhaps we should watch for the third sign: Peretz, Peres, upharsin (the plural form), or even Paris? (See Daniel 5:25-28.)

Are we seeing the handwriting on the wall for Mystery Babylon? Is Justice coming?

UPDATE: The Brexit vote is to be held on June 23, in which the British are deciding whether to DIVIDE themselves from the EU. Perhaps this will prove to be the third step in the handwriting on the wall, but we could also see other signs.



Welcome back, Elle! I'm glad your computer woes appear to be remedied.
I have missed your steady stream of regurgitated Stephen Jones Prosperity Doctrine.

Did you know Jones is even mentioned in the Bible:


"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
Matthew 7:15

"For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, to draw away disciples after them."
Acts 20:29-30
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/17/16 07:14 PM

My comments : I thought this was a good overview of the current World stock market the past 12 months. Interestingly, the writer of this article, Michael Syder, says three things :

#1. 6 out of 8 biggest stocks market have crashed. The article looks at each one of them starting with China, then Japan, Germany, UK, France, India, Italy, Brazil, and the US.

Quote:
Over the past 12 months, stock market investors around the planet have lost trillions of dollars. Since this time last June, stocks have crashed in 6 of the world’s 8 largest economies, and stocks in the other two are down as well.


#2. That June is the 3rd "major waves of financial panic".

Quote:
... there have been three major waves of financial panic over the past 12 months. Late last August we saw the biggest financial shaking since the financial crisis of 2008, then in January and February there was an even bigger shaking, and now a third “wave” has begun in June.


#3. The US stock market is crashing AGAIN.

Quote:
U.S. stocks did crash last August, but then they recovered.

Then they crashed again in January, but then they recovered again.

Now U.S. stocks have been taking another tumble here in June, but we are being assured that there is nothing to worry about.

Meanwhile, the underlying numbers for the U.S. economy just continue to get worse and worse and worse. If you have any doubt about this, please see the article that I posted yesterday entitled “15 Facts About The Imploding U.S. Economy That The Mainstream Media Doesn’t Want You To See“.

Hopefully this article will clear a lot of things up. In this piece, I have presented undeniable evidence that a new global financial crisis has begun over the past 12 months. We have not seen global stock declines of this nature since the great financial crisis of 2008, but much worse is still to come.



The Looming Crash Of 2016: Stocks Have Already Slumped In 6 Of The World’s 8 Largest Economies

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-17/looming-crash-2016-stocks-have-already-slumped-6-world%E2%80%99s-8-largest-economies

Submitted by Michael Syder via The Economic Collapse blog

Quote:
Over the past 12 months, stock market investors around the planet have lost trillions of dollars. Since this time last June, stocks have crashed in 6 of the world’s 8 largest economies, and stocks in the other two are down as well. The charts that you are about to see are absolutely stunning, and they are clear evidence that a new global financial crisis has already begun. Of course it is true that we are still in the early chapters of this new crisis and that there is much, much more damage to be done, but let us not minimize the carnage that we have already witnessed.



In general, there have been three major waves of financial panic over the past 12 months. Late last August we saw the biggest financial shaking since the financial crisis of 2008, then in January and February there was an even bigger shaking, and now a third “wave” has begun in June. Not all areas around the globe have been affected equally by each wave, but without a doubt this new financial crisis is a global phenomenon.

Let’s talk about China first. The Chinese economy is the second largest on the entire planet, and since this time last year Chinese stocks are down an astounding 40 percent…

Chinese Stocks

As things have started to unravel in China, the Chinese have been selling off U.S. debt and U.S. stocks like crazy. The following comes from Bloomberg…

For the past year, Chinese selling of Treasuries has vexed investors and served as a gauge of the health of the world’s second-largest economy.

The People’s Bank of China, owner of the world’s biggest foreign-exchange reserves, burnt through 20 percent of its war chest since 2014, dumping about $250 billion of U.S. government debt and using the funds to support the yuan and stem capital outflows.

While China’s sales of Treasuries have slowed, its holdings of U.S. equities are now showing steep declines.
Unfortunately for China, their economy just continues to slow down, and George Soros is so alarmed by this and a potential “Brexit” that he has been selling off stocks and buying enormous amounts of gold in anticipation of an even bigger global downturn.

Japan has the third largest economy in the world, and over the past year Japanese stocks are down a total of 26 percent from the peak…

Japan Stocks

Personally, I have been extremely alarmed by what has been happening in Japan lately. Japanese stocks were down almost 500 points last night, and overall the Nikkei is down a whopping 1,800 points so far in June.

Of course the Japanese economy as a whole is essentially a basket case at this point. For a detailed analysis of this, please see my previous article entitled “Watch Japan – For All Is Not Well In The Land Of The Rising Sun“.

Germany has the fourth largest economy in the world, and over the past year their stocks have fallen 19 percent from the peak of the market…

German Stocks

The key thing to watch for in Germany are serious troubles at their biggest bank. I wrote a long article about the slow-motion implosion of Deutsche Bank last month, and just this week Deutsche Bank stock hit an all-time low.

The fifth largest economy on the planet belongs to the United Kingdom, and since last June their stocks have fallen about 13 percent…

British Stocks

One week from today, the “Brexit” vote will be held in the UK, and if they vote to leave the EU that could have very serious economic and financial implications for them and for the rest of Europe as well. For an in-depth look at this, please see my previous article entitled “June 23, 2016: The Brexit Vote Could Change EVERYTHING And Plunge Europe Into Financial Chaos“.

France has the sixth largest economy in the world, and over the past year French stocks are down 20 percent from the peak of the market…

French Stocks

The French economy is really struggling these days, and we have not heard much about it in the U.S. media, but there have been tremendous riots in major cities in France in recent weeks.

The seventh largest economy on our planet belongs to India. Even though India is facing some very serious economic problems, their stocks are doing okay for the moment. Even though stocks in India are down over the past 12 months, we have not seen a major financial crisis over there just yet.

But there is definitely a major crisis in the eighth largest economy in the world. Italian stocks are down a staggering 32 percent from the peak of the market. That means approximately a third of all stock market wealth in Italy is already gone…

Italian Stocks

Earlier this year, I wrote about the horrifying collapse of the Italian banking system that has greatly accelerated since the start of 2016. It looks like virtually all of their big banks will ultimately need to be bailed out, and this threatens to become a far bigger crisis than the crisis in Greece ever was.

And let us not leave off the ninth largest economy in the world. Not too long ago, CNN ran an article entitled “Brazil: Economic collapse worse than feared“. So not only are they admitting that the ninth largest economy on the globe is collapsing, they are also admitting that it is even worse than what the experts had anticipated.

So did I leave anyone off the list?

Ah yes, I haven’t even addressed what has been going on in the United States yet.

U.S. stocks did crash last August, but then they recovered.

Then they crashed again in January, but then they recovered again.

Now U.S. stocks have been taking another tumble here in June, but we are being assured that there is nothing to worry about.

Meanwhile, the underlying numbers for the U.S. economy just continue to get worse and worse and worse. If you have any doubt about this, please see the article that I posted yesterday entitled “15 Facts About The Imploding U.S. Economy That The Mainstream Media Doesn’t Want You To See“.

Hopefully this article will clear a lot of things up. In this piece, I have presented undeniable evidence that a new global financial crisis has begun over the past 12 months. We have not seen global stock declines of this nature since the great financial crisis of 2008, but much worse is still to come.

I would love to be wrong about that last part.

It would be wonderful if the worst was now behind us and good times for the global financial system were ahead.

Unfortunately, every single indicator that I am watching is telling me just the opposite.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/18/16 05:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comments : I thought this was a good overview of the current World stock market the past 12 months. Interestingly, the writer of this article, Michael Syder, says three things :

#1. 6 out of 8 biggest stocks market have crashed. The article looks at each one of them starting with China, then Japan, Germany, UK, France, India, Italy, Brazil, and the US.

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Over the past 12 months, stock market investors around the planet have lost trillions of dollars. Since this time last June, stocks have crashed in 6 of the world’s 8 largest economies, and stocks in the other two are down as well.


#2. That June is the 3rd "major waves of financial panic".

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... there have been three major waves of financial panic over the past 12 months. Late last August we saw the biggest financial shaking since the financial crisis of 2008, then in January and February there was an even bigger shaking, and now a third “wave” has begun in June.


#3. The US stock market is crashing AGAIN.

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U.S. stocks did crash last August, but then they recovered.

Then they crashed again in January, but then they recovered again.

Now U.S. stocks have been taking another tumble here in June, but we are being assured that there is nothing to worry about.

Meanwhile, the underlying numbers for the U.S. economy just continue to get worse and worse and worse. If you have any doubt about this, please see the article that I posted yesterday entitled “15 Facts About The Imploding U.S. Economy That The Mainstream Media Doesn’t Want You To See“.

Hopefully this article will clear a lot of things up. In this piece, I have presented undeniable evidence that a new global financial crisis has begun over the past 12 months. We have not seen global stock declines of this nature since the great financial crisis of 2008, but much worse is still to come.



The Looming Crash Of 2016: Stocks Have Already Slumped In 6 Of The World’s 8 Largest Economies

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-17/looming-crash-2016-stocks-have-already-slumped-6-world%E2%80%99s-8-largest-economies

Submitted by Michael Syder via The Economic Collapse blog

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Over the past 12 months, stock market investors around the planet have lost trillions of dollars. Since this time last June, stocks have crashed in 6 of the world’s 8 largest economies, and stocks in the other two are down as well. The charts that you are about to see are absolutely stunning, and they are clear evidence that a new global financial crisis has already begun. Of course it is true that we are still in the early chapters of this new crisis and that there is much, much more damage to be done, but let us not minimize the carnage that we have already witnessed.



In general, there have been three major waves of financial panic over the past 12 months. Late last August we saw the biggest financial shaking since the financial crisis of 2008, then in January and February there was an even bigger shaking, and now a third “wave” has begun in June. Not all areas around the globe have been affected equally by each wave, but without a doubt this new financial crisis is a global phenomenon.

Let’s talk about China first. The Chinese economy is the second largest on the entire planet, and since this time last year Chinese stocks are down an astounding 40 percent…

Chinese Stocks

As things have started to unravel in China, the Chinese have been selling off U.S. debt and U.S. stocks like crazy. The following comes from Bloomberg…

For the past year, Chinese selling of Treasuries has vexed investors and served as a gauge of the health of the world’s second-largest economy.

The People’s Bank of China, owner of the world’s biggest foreign-exchange reserves, burnt through 20 percent of its war chest since 2014, dumping about $250 billion of U.S. government debt and using the funds to support the yuan and stem capital outflows.

While China’s sales of Treasuries have slowed, its holdings of U.S. equities are now showing steep declines.
Unfortunately for China, their economy just continues to slow down, and George Soros is so alarmed by this and a potential “Brexit” that he has been selling off stocks and buying enormous amounts of gold in anticipation of an even bigger global downturn.

Japan has the third largest economy in the world, and over the past year Japanese stocks are down a total of 26 percent from the peak…

Japan Stocks

Personally, I have been extremely alarmed by what has been happening in Japan lately. Japanese stocks were down almost 500 points last night, and overall the Nikkei is down a whopping 1,800 points so far in June.

Of course the Japanese economy as a whole is essentially a basket case at this point. For a detailed analysis of this, please see my previous article entitled “Watch Japan – For All Is Not Well In The Land Of The Rising Sun“.

Germany has the fourth largest economy in the world, and over the past year their stocks have fallen 19 percent from the peak of the market…

German Stocks

The key thing to watch for in Germany are serious troubles at their biggest bank. I wrote a long article about the slow-motion implosion of Deutsche Bank last month, and just this week Deutsche Bank stock hit an all-time low.

The fifth largest economy on the planet belongs to the United Kingdom, and since last June their stocks have fallen about 13 percent…

British Stocks

One week from today, the “Brexit” vote will be held in the UK, and if they vote to leave the EU that could have very serious economic and financial implications for them and for the rest of Europe as well. For an in-depth look at this, please see my previous article entitled “June 23, 2016: The Brexit Vote Could Change EVERYTHING And Plunge Europe Into Financial Chaos“.

France has the sixth largest economy in the world, and over the past year French stocks are down 20 percent from the peak of the market…

French Stocks

The French economy is really struggling these days, and we have not heard much about it in the U.S. media, but there have been tremendous riots in major cities in France in recent weeks.

The seventh largest economy on our planet belongs to India. Even though India is facing some very serious economic problems, their stocks are doing okay for the moment. Even though stocks in India are down over the past 12 months, we have not seen a major financial crisis over there just yet.

But there is definitely a major crisis in the eighth largest economy in the world. Italian stocks are down a staggering 32 percent from the peak of the market. That means approximately a third of all stock market wealth in Italy is already gone…

Italian Stocks

Earlier this year, I wrote about the horrifying collapse of the Italian banking system that has greatly accelerated since the start of 2016. It looks like virtually all of their big banks will ultimately need to be bailed out, and this threatens to become a far bigger crisis than the crisis in Greece ever was.

And let us not leave off the ninth largest economy in the world. Not too long ago, CNN ran an article entitled “Brazil: Economic collapse worse than feared“. So not only are they admitting that the ninth largest economy on the globe is collapsing, they are also admitting that it is even worse than what the experts had anticipated.

So did I leave anyone off the list?

Ah yes, I haven’t even addressed what has been going on in the United States yet.

U.S. stocks did crash last August, but then they recovered.

Then they crashed again in January, but then they recovered again.

Now U.S. stocks have been taking another tumble here in June, but we are being assured that there is nothing to worry about.

Meanwhile, the underlying numbers for the U.S. economy just continue to get worse and worse and worse. If you have any doubt about this, please see the article that I posted yesterday entitled “15 Facts About The Imploding U.S. Economy That The Mainstream Media Doesn’t Want You To See“.

Hopefully this article will clear a lot of things up. In this piece, I have presented undeniable evidence that a new global financial crisis has begun over the past 12 months. We have not seen global stock declines of this nature since the great financial crisis of 2008, but much worse is still to come.

I would love to be wrong about that last part.

It would be wonderful if the worst was now behind us and good times for the global financial system were ahead.

Unfortunately, every single indicator that I am watching is telling me just the opposite.



The US economy isn't even clearly explained even by President Obama. I can't remember the show off the top of my head, but, Obama said the two indicators that show the supposed recovery from the "Great Recession" were the stock values and real estate values both being recovered. That was similar to the situation just before the "Great Depression".

What happened to interest rates and inflation being the indicators to watch? The last 18-20 years showed they aren't all that important after all.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/24/16 03:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
"Brexit"

My comment : June 23rd (the 2nd day of Tabernacle) is the "Brexit" vote -- Is Britain exiting the EU?.

OOPS....June 23rd is NOT a 2nd day of Tabernacle TYPE. My mistake...June is not the 7th month of the Julian calendar but July. So disregard that bolded and underlined comment above. Sorry for the confusion.

However, the Brexit vote came thru yesterday and the news is filled with news. Thus, the month of July(== a 7th month type) will be filled with major activities that will result from this Brexit and other economic pre-events that happened during Passover, January and other Mystery Babylon system crash news previous to that.

Here's some headlines in the news this morning :

1.It's All Over As "Leave" Wins Brexit Referendum: Markets Everywhere Are Crashing

2.Gold Soars Most In 42 Years For British Buyers

2.UK Prime Minister David Cameron To Resign -"Country Requires Fresh Leadership"

3.Now It's Our Turn" - Geert Wilders Calls For A Dutch Referendum

4."Victory For Freedom" - Le Pen Demands Referendum For France

5.Italy's Northern League To Launch EU Referendum Campaign Next
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/27/16 11:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Elle
"Brexit"

My comment : June 23rd (the 2nd day of Tabernacle) is the "Brexit" vote -- Is Britain exiting the EU?.

OOPS....June 23rd is NOT a 2nd day of Tabernacle TYPE. My mistake...June is not the 7th month of the Julian calendar but July. So disregard that bolded and underlined comment above. Sorry for the confusion.

However, the Brexit vote came thru yesterday and the news is filled with news. Thus, the month of July(== a 7th month type) will be filled with major activities that will result from this Brexit and other economic pre-events that happened during Passover, January and other Mystery Babylon system crash news previous to that.

Here's some headlines in the news this morning :

1.It's All Over As "Leave" Wins Brexit Referendum: Markets Everywhere Are Crashing

2.Gold Soars Most In 42 Years For British Buyers

2.UK Prime Minister David Cameron To Resign -"Country Requires Fresh Leadership"

3.Now It's Our Turn" - Geert Wilders Calls For A Dutch Referendum

4."Victory For Freedom" - Le Pen Demands Referendum For France

5.Italy's Northern League To Launch EU Referendum Campaign Next


I was going to post on Brexit if no one else had by now.

What a wonderful showing by the people to reject globalism. We will need to watch what the ramifications are and if the USA or any other country will help the UK if the situation really gets rough.

We SDA's in the world should be encouraged by this opportunity to work in a mostly peaceful world a little bit longer. Let's not miss this opportunity.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/29/16 08:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Elle
"Brexit"

My comment : June 23rd (the 2nd day of Tabernacle) is the "Brexit" vote -- Is Britain exiting the EU?.

OOPS....June 23rd is NOT a 2nd day of Tabernacle TYPE. My mistake...June is not the 7th month of the Julian calendar but July. So disregard that bolded and underlined comment above. Sorry for the confusion.

However, the Brexit vote came thru yesterday and the news is filled with news. Thus, the month of July(== a 7th month type) will be filled with major activities that will result from this Brexit and other economic pre-events that happened during Passover, January and other Mystery Babylon system crash news previous to that.

Here's some headlines in the news this morning :

1.It's All Over As "Leave" Wins Brexit Referendum: Markets Everywhere Are Crashing

2.Gold Soars Most In 42 Years For British Buyers

2.UK Prime Minister David Cameron To Resign -"Country Requires Fresh Leadership"

3.Now It's Our Turn" - Geert Wilders Calls For A Dutch Referendum

4."Victory For Freedom" - Le Pen Demands Referendum For France

5.Italy's Northern League To Launch EU Referendum Campaign Next
You are mixing and matching calendars?
"June 23rd (the 2nd day of Tabernacle)"
Julian year, but non-Julian moon days?
Sorry, but you sound like the fortune tellers where everything is a sign. Any date of any calendar can work, because something is happening.

When's barley harvest for the wave offering at your location?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/30/16 04:12 PM

Sign that The top of World Power has Changed: Egypt, Israel, and Syria joins China's Shanghai Cooperation Organization

My Comment : Benjamin Fulford shared two important links in his current weekly geopolitical newsletter showing us that the world realizes that the current controller of the world (formally Mystery Babylon -- the 2nd Beast that came out of the earth of Rev 13) have lost its position and been replaced by China and their allies.

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2016/06...nge/#more-51359

Originally Posted By: Benjamin Fulford
...Clearly a lot of countries are waking up to the fact there has been a change at the top of the world power structure. One indication, for example, is that Israel, Egypt and Syria have applied to join the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. That means Israel is applying to join a military alliance that its one time “arch-enemy” Iran is also joining. It is also an organization that is theoretically opposed to their long term supposed allies and protectors the US and NATO.

http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/06/syria-egypt-israel-apply-to-join-sco.html
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26th June, 2016

asialive.info

Syria, Egypt, and Israel have formally applied for accession to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO). Members also discussed the accession of Iran. The interest of Syria, Israel, and Egypt to participate in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization was stated at the briefing in Tashkent by special presidential representative for SCO Affairs Bakhtiyor Khakimov.

The request from Syria for a connection to work with an observer status came last year, but as the SCO member states agreed about the beginning of cooperation with newcomers from the lowest level, we are talking about a "partnership in dialogue", said Khakimov. On Friday, the Presidents of the country-members of the SCO also discussed the prospect of Iran joining with permanent membership.

Currently the SCO's six permanent members are Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, China, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan. The next summit of the SCO was held in Tashkent. The meeting was attended by the presidents of all six member countries. In addition to the six presidents, the SCO was attended by the leaders of the observer countries: President of Afghanistan Ashraf Ghani, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko, President of Mongolia Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj, the President of Pakistan Mamnoon Hussain, Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi, and Foreign Minister of Iran Mohammad Zarif. The special guest of the President of Uzbekistan was the President of Turkmenistan Gurbanguly Berdymukhammedov.


Poland and other countries in Eastern Europe have also shown they understand things are different now because they have agreed to join China’s new “Belt and Road Initiative,” meaning the building of major transportation links heading east through Russia to China.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016-06/21/c_135454841.htm
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/04/16 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
You are mixing and matching calendars?
"June 23rd (the 2nd day of Tabernacle)"

No I mixed up months : I took June to be the 7th month of the Julian calendar. When I wrote that post I noticed the event was on the 23rd and I mistakenly thought it was the 7th month of the Julian calendar, but it was not. June is the 6th month.

Originally Posted By: kland
Julian year, but non-Julian moon days?
Sorry, but you sound like the fortune tellers where everything is a sign. Any date of any calendar can work, because something is happening.

Actually only one calendar, the Julian calendar, was given as a revelation from the Lord for His people to watch. "My Sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me" Jn 10:27

The command to watch the events that unfolds on the important feast dates on the Julian Calendar(dd/m; Passover:14/1, 15/1; 2nd Passover:14/2, 15/2; Tabernacle: 01/7, 10/7, 21/7 - 29/7) are only to be a "TYPE & shadow" of what would come on the actual feast dates since the Julian Calendar happens about 3 months before the actual Feast dates. My understanding is there must be a correlation between the two calendars events to be a valid sign from above. No man can make these events happens and less probable on a specific date. Even less probable, that man can make two events correlate. The Lord is behind these events as He is fulfilling His purpose & Words a little at a time year after year.

The purpose of all of this, is to keep His people on the watch of the events that the Lord is orchestrating. If the Lord is able to keep us watching these; then the Holy Spirit can teach us what the Father is doing. So really the point of this is for the Lord to teach us and to bring His people in tune & sync with what He does so they can be the Lord's AMEN people.

It's not all the Feast days things happens, but things does happen and we are to take note of it. I have been keeping track of events in this discussion since 2012, and yes if you look back -- most major events DOES happen on the Feast Dates on both the Julian and the actual Feast dates.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/04/16 02:42 PM

My Comment: Yesterday, I listened to the latest Jim Willie interview dated June 30th. What's interesting with Jim's work, is that an anonymous insider, that Jim named "the voice" has kept him informed of what is happening behind the scenes. I don't remember how many years "the voice" came to Jim, but it has been before the 2008 crash and Jim says that over the years he found that "the voice" is a very reliable and trust worthy source. After listening to several of Jim Willie's interviews, I understand why "the voice" picked Jim, as he is not a wall street prostitute or Mystery Babylon's follower.

Anyway, there's two important things that I took the time to transcribe what Jim's said in the interview starting at the 18:44 minute to 22 min mark.

1. "the voice" told Jim that China and Basel(the BIS -- Bank of International Settlement) are currently negotiating. This is quite important development since China and other allies countries no longer want to ship goods anymore since January 2016 without being paid in a currency backed by gold. So I think this could be the next big event that will come hopefully this coming Fall. We will see.

2. Jim's comment on Greenspan last gold solution. I have posted a few years back an article where Greenspan, Chairmen of the Federal Reserve from 1987 to 2006 and the mastermind behind the current economic system, who claims that he has set up the whole system to fail without Mystery Babylon knowing....so to help the people. Now that I think of it....its was a huge bucket of lies. Just last week Greenspan came forth supporting a Gold backed currency. I find Jim comment about this quite discerning.

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/podcast/7712/baseball-hot-dogs-apple-pie-and-jackass

1. China and BIS are negotiating to convert bi-lateral Trade contracts agreements between Two Nations, the dollar into gold. And they want to adjust the Gold price to $5000

Originally Posted By: Jim Willie
hi level negotiation China and Basel Switzerland over converting international contracts written in USD terms and forcing them into global treaty in such a way to be converted into gold payment terms. It would pave the way for the USD to be broken away from US domestic currency statist. The negotiation is very hi-level: the Chinese officials and the Basel Bank International Settlements(BIS) official which represent the central banks of the Western world plus Japan, that slave state.

The beauty of this meeting is that It would enable the US to make its own currency. And we would finally get some justice and sought for equilibrium where the 500 billions dollar annual trade deficit will become a factor again toward the evaluation of the new dollar which I call the shysk dollar.

In term of gold, they cannot do this without establishing a clear conversion. Like say Bolivia selling industrial metals to China for finishal goods and mortocycles. You got to convert the dollar terms into gold terms. They are talking about a $5000 gold price. International contracts. Or for instance India with a health care system and information technology arrangement with Saudi Arabia written in term of 1 billion dollar contracts. It won’t be settle in dollar anymore.

That’s what is coming. It’s not ready yet. They need to convert the dollar contracts for a bi-lateral two nations contracts. Not involving the United States. They need to convert it to gold for the payment system – the payment structure. Settling on the contract. No longer in the dollar. And they are talking about $5000 gold price.


2. Jim's comment of Greenspan Gold Solution

Originally Posted By: Jim Willie
My second big point in the pre-amble is Greenspan is talking about gold. I don’t like it. Since when is the architect of this failure going to tell us about a solution.

My guest is his solution is part of a complicated scheme to allow BIS to be repository and global central Bank for an international currency that I suspect that will be an attempt of a gold backing IMF SDR(special drawing rights) basket – giving special drawing rights of the Euro, the pound, Yen, the dollar, and the Chinese renminbi.

I think they[BIS] are going to try to work a deal were the SDR basket is backed by gold but with very limited provision for redemption. Another word it's the same old system, same old paper gold. Then if you go to Basel(BIS) and say look we got a lot of these SDR gold backed bonds now we would like to exchange it to gold. They will be told by Basel-BIS: “Go back home or we will kill you.” Just like they do now. Just like the US did to the French in 1968. Yeah!… They might be legitimate gold demand and they will be told don’t worry. In order to protect the gold its going to stay in Basel Switzerland. “Go back home and contribute to the system --- it’s all good”. Yeah right! T hen we would hear later controversial things about the gold being are re-hypoticate, about countries pitching in their gold BIS to participate in this more fully.

I ask the question : Where are we going to see the gold trade notes. Because that’s where the Eurasian trade zone, BRICS nations and their Alliances, the emergence market nations -- their control lever is with trade, trade payments, ships loaded with finished goods and material heading to the western ports to be paid by something. And they don’t want treasury bond anymore. They want gold trade notes. We have enormous things coming with the reset.


Here's an article of Greenspan latest postition :
June 27th 2016: Greenspan Warns A Crisis Is Imminent, Urges A Return To The Gold Standard
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/06/16 01:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Actually only one calendar, the Julian calendar, was given as a revelation from the Lord for His people to watch. "My Sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me" Jn 10:27

The command to watch the events...
What command to watch events unfolding on important feast dates?

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... that unfolds on the important feast dates on the Julian Calendar
And that is where I'm having trouble. "Feast dates on the Julian Calendar". How can it not be either feast dates on the Jewish calendar OR no feast dates for the Julian calendar? How can you mix and match calendars? Where did you get that idea? Is this a Stephen Jones thing?

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I have been keeping track of events in this discussion since 2012, and yes if you look back -- most major events DOES happen on the Feast Dates on both the Julian and the actual Feast dates.
"most major events". How would one go about proving or disproving that statement? My previous comment was suggesting it is not disprovable. Along the lines of, 'Our brand of cereal is better'.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/08/16 01:36 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Actually only one calendar, the Julian calendar, was given as a revelation from the Lord for His people to watch. "My Sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me" Jn 10:27

The command to watch the events...
What command to watch events unfolding on important feast dates?

If the Lord tells you to do something shouldn't you obey? Obeying does not only come by following the 10Cs; but also anything the Lord tells you to do personally. This also applies to any group of individual gathered and seek His will for them. However, it takes an individual(or group) to be able to hear His voice to be able to obey. Right! Like Jesus said "my sheep hear my voice...and they follow me".

The ability to hear is what makes the difference between the overcomers and the other believers. The ability to hear indicates if someone entered the Pentecost level of faith which is mark by hearing the commands of the Lord like it was when the first Pentecost feast was kept by the Israelites. They refuse to hear the Lord directly (Ex 20:19); thus they all died in the wilderness and they did not enter the promise land. This is prophetic. Without the ability to hear, there's NO FAITH and NO OBEDIENCE. (see Paul definition of Faith in Rom 10:17 "So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word[rhema, utterance] of God."

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Elle : ... that unfolds on the important feast dates on the Julian Calendar

Kland : And that is where I'm having trouble. "Feast dates on the Julian Calendar". How can it not be either feast dates on the Jewish calendar OR no feast dates for the Julian calendar? How can you mix and match calendars?

I've explain in the other post. I'll requote :
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(dd/m; Passover:14/1, 15/1; 2nd Passover:14/2, 15/2; Tabernacle: 01/7, 10/7, 21/7 - 29/7) are only to be a "TYPE & shadow" of what would come on the actual feast dates since the Julian Calendar happens about 3 months before the actual Feast dates. My understanding is there must be a correlation between the two calendars events to be a valid sign from above. No man can make these events happens and less probable on a specific date. Even less probable, that man can make two events correlate. The Lord is behind these events as He is fulfilling His purpose & Words a little at a time year after year.


Originally Posted By: kland
Where did you get that idea? Is this a Stephen Jones thing?

I don't know if the Lord told Stephen Jones or to others; but yes Stephen Jones is where I read about this and they've been watching the signs that may appear on the Feast days of the Julian calendar which is a TYPE of what is to come on the actual Feasts days for like 20 years. And yes many things has happened if you are watching and taking notes. If you are not watching, then you will see nothing.

The purpose of this, is the Lord wants His body of believer to know what He is doing. Thus it is ONE form of communication between the Lord and His body the Lord has set up.

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I have been keeping track of events in this discussion since 2012, and yes if you look back -- most major events DOES happen on the Feast Dates on both the Julian and the actual Feast dates.
"most major events". How would one go about proving or disproving that statement? My previous comment was suggesting it is not disprovable. Along the lines of, 'Our brand of cereal is better'. [/quote]
Well a major event that changes the outcome of the world that happens on the Feast dates that coincides with the sign giving on the same Feast dates "type" on the Julian calendar is pretty much an incident that proves the Lord is behind these two events and He is speaking & teaching His children thru them. Like I said in the other post, the odds for this to happen is like 1 to a million or more.

However if an individual doesn't want to believe the Lord communicates and has commanded this from the start; then will stumble and find anything to disprove it. We shouldn't just believe it either. And I was suspicious myself; however I have been reading His blog for 5 years and did seen many events that has come by.

That's the purpose for pointing this out in this discussion. Let's take note what will happen. The proof is in the events that happens.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/08/16 01:55 AM

My comment: Many financial analyst or politicians or economist have been talking about a Jubilee since Iceland Jubilee declaration around 2010. Before that that word was rarely spoken in the media or alternative news. Especially since 2012 this word usage has escalated.

Here again in this article by Ellen Brown, an news analyst, she speaks of a Jubilee as the best solution for the coming economic crash. Stephen Jones gives a summary with his comments on her article below.

Brexit and the Derivatives Time Bomb
05 July 2016
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/36688-brexit-and-the-derivatives-time-bomb
Originally Posted By: Steven Jones

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/07-2016/is-it-time-for-a-debt-jubilee/

The first casualty of the Brexit seems to be Italy. Virtually all of the Italian banks have been in trouble for years, mostly because they hold about $400 billion (360 billion euros) in bad loans. Since the Brexit, those banks have lost 30% or more of the stock value, and now the Italian government feels forced to bail out their banks.

The problem is that this violates the rules of the EU. But here is where it gets interesting.

Italy’s Renzi threatens to bail out the banks. The EU threatens them in return. Renzi then says, “Don’t stand in our way, or we will put “Italeave” on the ballot. The EU then either capitulates, which encourages other countries to do the same, or they stand firm and watch Italy leave the EU, followed by Greece (remember “Grexit”?) and France (“Frexit”). The EU falls apart either way. It is only a matter of time, because the debt loads are only increasing.

So what is the solution? If we just declare a Jubilee and cancel all debts, it will be a very hard landing for the entire world. Debt has been building for too long, and falling from such dizzying heights could cause a lot of chaos. The sheer amount of positive money without debt would immediately cause hyperinflation, where the cost of goods and services would soon wipe out any value in the money that people thought they had.

Here is the obvious solution, which is what I have advocated since the 1970’s. Take the existing Federal Reserve Notes, which are actually debt notes, and convert them 1:1 into national currency. In other words, un-debt them, because these debt notes were created out of nothing in the first place and loaned to the government at interest. The private international banking families became extremely wealthy once they got control of the money tree and were allowed to create their own money and loan it to governments at interest. Let’s give back the money tree to the public (government), so that it can create money without interest and without debt.

If individuals own government bonds, then just cash them out and exchange those bonds for money. The only thing anyone may lose is the interest payment on the bond. In fact, now that bonds have hit bottom and are on the verge of negative rates, no one really has anything to lose.

Below is part of an article that advocates this very thing. After talking about the Italian bank problem, this is their solution….

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/36688-brexit-and-the-derivatives-time-bomb

Originally Posted By: Ellen Brown article
That may get Italy out of the woods, but the system is clearly broken. A $500 trillion derivatives time bomb poised atop a $100 trillion mountain of debt [total sovereign debt of world nations] is not a stable situation. It's time to push the reset button, but how? Bailouts and bail-ins have been tried and proved wanting. But a debt "jubilee" -- simply canceling the debt -- would devastate creditors and collapse the massive derivatives bubble.

All else having failed, it may be time to do what should have been done all along: convert "sovereign debt" into "sovereign money." The "event of default" triggering a derivatives meltdown can be avoided by simply paying the debts with money issued by the government.

A government oppressed by "sovereign" debt is not really sovereign. A sovereign government has the power to issue money and need not go into debt at all. But EU member governments have lost that sovereign power. They are unable to issue their own money or borrow money issued by their own central banks. If they leave the EU, they can get that power back for future expenditures; but their existing debt is in euros, and only the ECB has the power to convert bonds into euros.

In fact that is what it does when it buys government bonds with QE. The problem with QE as currently practiced is that the bonds remain on the central bank's books, "sterilizing" their effect on the market. The idea is to be able to sell them back into the market should inflation become a problem. But that means the bonds are still counted as debt for purposes of balancing national budgets, forcing continued austerity, cutbacks and privatization. If the bonds were bought back and voided out, national governments would be free to spend again. QE doesn't need to be unwound by selling bonds into the market. If the money supply grows too large, money can be pulled back with taxes, interest or fees.

The invariable objection to paying off the debt with central bank-issued money is that it would lead to hyperinflation. But would it? Government bonds are already classified as "near money" -- so liquid that they are readily exchangeable for cash. Turning them into cash is little different from moving money from your savings account to your checking account. One draws interest and the other doesn't, but cashing out the savings account doesn't make you any richer than before. It doesn't propel you to spend more on goods and services, driving consumer prices up.

If people and governments were incentivized to spend more, however, that would actually be a good thing. Consumer markets need more demand today. The way to stimulate economies is to get money into the pockets of people who will spend it. Demand (money) stimulates supply (productivity). Before QE can stimulate the real economy, it has to make it into the real economy. If the goal of the EU is to hold itself together and avoid a derivatives meltdown, some QE that actually got into the hands of the people could be just the ticket.


The problem is that the banks have become more powerful and wealthier than sovereign nations that are debt-ridden and weak. Banks have replaced nations, insofar as power bases are concerned. The article above makes the key point, “A government oppressed by ‘sovereign debt’ is not really ‘sovereign’.” Scripture says plainly, “the borrower is servant to the lender” (Proverbs 22:7 KJV). Slaves are not sovereign. There is no such thing as a sovereign debtor.

When this current Babylonian captivity began in 1913-1914 with the passage of the Federal Reserve Act, it came because congress gave the money tree to private bankers and decided that instead of creating money itself, they would let bankers create it and then loan it to the government. This monopoly made it so that in order to put money into circulation (as oil in the economic engine), it had to be borrowed from these big bankers—at interest. We were all supposed to have more confidence in the bankers to regulate the supply of money than in the government. How has this worked? It has enriched the bankers and has put the governments of the world into slavery.

In the end, we traded dishonest politicians for dishonest bankers to run the economy, which in turn drives politics. Money is political, clothed in economic terms. Even the solution above will only work in the long term if honest people oversee it. The problem is finding honest people who have the ability to manage the economic systems of whole nations. A century ago we gave away the money tree to bankers. It is time to take back the right to create money. But we need overcomers with financial callings to take the reins and to see to it that we get an honest system with integrity.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/11/16 05:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
"most major events". How would one go about proving or disproving that statement? My previous comment was suggesting it is not disprovable. Along the lines of, 'Our brand of cereal is better'.

Well a major event that changes the outcome of the world that happens on the Feast dates that coincides with the sign giving on the same Feast dates "type" on the Julian calendar is pretty much an incident that proves the Lord is behind these two events and He is speaking & teaching His children thru them.
Major events which change the outcome of the world happen on July 1.

But my question was, who gets to determine what a "major event" is or is not?

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Like I said in the other post, the odds for this to happen is like 1 to a million or more.
The odds of me typing this on this particular date is like 1 to a million or more.

Statistics mean nothing in the meaning of themselves.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/14/16 01:19 PM

My comment: George Soros is one of the Elites. He is quite active being behind many events to bring about the NWO agenda. This is a pretty good research and article.

How George Soros Singlehandedly Created The European Refugee Crisis - And Why
Jul 9, 2016
By David Galland and Stephen McBride
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08...-crisis-and-why
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How George Soros Singlehandedly Created the European Refugee Crisis - And Why

George Soros is trading again.

The 85-year-old political activist and philanthropist hit the headlines post-Brexit saying the event had “unleashed” a financial-market crisis.

Well, the crisis hasn’t hit Soros just yet.

He was once again on the right side of the trade, taking a short position in troubled Deutsche Bank and betting against the S&P via a 2.1-million-share put option on the SPDR S&P 500 ETF.

More interestingly, Soros recently took out a $264 million position in Barrick Gold, whose share price has jumped over 14% since Brexit. Along with this trade, Soros has sold his positions in many of his traditional holdings.



Soros had recently announced he was coming out of retirement, again.

First retiring in 2000, the only other time Soros has publicly re-entered the markets was in 2007, when he placed a number of bearish bets on US housing and ultimately made a profit of over $1 billion from the trades.

Since the 1980s, Soros has actively been pursuing a globalist agenda; he advances this agenda through his Open Society Foundations (OSF).

What is this globalist agenda, and where does it come from?

The Humble Beginnings

The globalist seed was sowed for young George by his father, Tivadar, a Jewish lawyer who was a strong proponent of Esperanto. Esperanto is a language created in 1887 by L.L. Zamenhof, a Polish eye doctor, for the purpose of “transcending national borders” and “overcoming the natural indifference of mankind.”

Tivadar taught young George Esperanto and forced him to speak it at home. In 1936, as Hitler was hosting the Olympics in Berlin, Tivadar changed the family name from Schwartz to Soros, an Esperanto word meaning “will soar.”

George Soros, who was born and raised in Budapest, Hungary, benefited greatly from his father’s decision.

Allegedly, in 1944, 14-year-old George Soros went to work for the invading Nazis. It is said that until the end of the war in 1945, he worked with a government official, helping him confiscate property from the local Jewish population.

In an 1998 interview with 60 Minutes, Soros described the year of German occupation as “the happiest time in my life.”

'Soros’s Venture into Finance

When the war ended, Soros moved to London and in 1947 enrolled in the London School of Economics where he studied under Karl Popper, the Austrian-British philosopher who was one of the first proponents of an “Open Society.”

Soros then worked at several merchant banks in London before moving to New York in 1963. In 1970, he founded Soros Fund Management and in 1973 created the Quantum Fund in partnership with investor Jim Rogers.

The fund made annual returns of over 30%, cementing Soros’s reputation and putting him in a position of power—one he utilizes to this day to advance the agenda of his mentors.

The Currency Speculations That Threw Britain and Asia into Crisis
In the 1990s, Soros began a string of large bets against national currencies. The first was in 1992, when he sold short the pound sterling and made a $1 billion profit in a single day.

His next big currency speculation came in 1997. This time Soros singled out the Thai baht and, with heavy short-selling volume, destroyed the baht’s artificial peg to the US dollar, which started the Asian financial crisis.

“Humanitarian” Efforts
Today, Soros’s net worth stands at $23 billion. Since taking a back seat in his company, Soros Fund Management, in 2000, Soros has been focusing on his philanthropic efforts, which he carries out through the Open Society Foundations he founded in 1993.

So who does he donate to, and what causes does he support?

During the 1980s and 1990s, Soros used his extraordinary wealth to bankroll and fund revolutions in dozens of European nations, including Czechoslovakia, Croatia, and Yugoslavia. He achieved this by funneling money to political opposition parties, publishing houses, and independent media in these nations.

If you wonder why Soros meddled in these nations’ affairs, part of the answer may lie in the fact that during and after the chaos, he invested heavily in assets in each of the respective countries.

He then used Columbia University economist Jeffrey Sachs to advise the fledgling governments to privatize all public assets immediately, thus allowing Soros to sell the assets he had acquired during the turmoil into newly formed open markets.

Having succeeded in advancing his agenda in Europe through regime change—and profiting in the process—he soon turned his attention to the big stage, the United States.

The Big Time

In 2004, Soros stated, “I deeply believe in the values of an open society. For the past 15 years I have been focusing my efforts abroad; now I am doing it in the United States.”

Since then, Soros has been funding groups such as:

The American Institute for Social Justice, whose aim is to “transform poor communities through lobbying for increased government spending on social programs”
The New America Foundation, whose aim is to “influence public opinion on such topics as environmentalism and global governance”
The Migration Policy Institute, whose aim is to “bring about an illegal immigrant resettlement policy and increase social welfare benefits for illegals”
Soros also uses his Open Society Foundations to funnel money to the progressive media outlet, Media Matters.

Soros funnels the money through a number of leftist groups, including the Tides Foundation, Center for American Progress, and the Democracy Alliance in order to circumvent the campaign finance laws he helped lobby for.

Why has Soros donated so much capital and effort to these organizations? For one simple reason: to buy political power.

Democratic politicians who go against the progressive narrative will see their funding cut and be attacked in media outlets such as Media Matters, which also directly contribute to mainstream sites such as NBC, Al Jazeera, and The New York Times.

Apart from the $5 billion Soros’s foundation has donated to groups like those cited above, he has also made huge contributions to the Democratic Party and its most prominent members, like Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and of course Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Best Friends with the Clintons

Soros’s relationship with the Clintons goes back to 1993, around the time when OSF was founded. They have become close friends, and their enduring relationship goes well beyond donor status.

According to the book, The Shadow Party, by Horowitz and Poe, at a 2004 “Take Back America” conference where Soros was speaking, the former first lady introduced him saying, “[W]e need people like George Soros, who is fearless and willing to step up when it counts.”

Soros began supporting Hillary Clinton’s current presidential run in 2013, taking a senior role in the “Ready for Hillary” group. Since then, Soros has donated over $15 million to pro-Clinton groups and Super PACs.

More recently, Soros has given more than $33 million to the Black Lives Matter group, which has been involved in outbreaks of social unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, and Baltimore, Maryland, in 2015. Both of these incidents contributed to a worsening of race relations across America.

The same group heavily criticized Democratic contender Bernie Sanders for his alleged track record of supporting racial inequality, helping to undercut him as a competitive threat with one of Hillary Clinton’s most ardent constituencies.

This, of course, greatly enhances the clout Soros wields through the groups mentioned above. It is safe to assume that he is now able to drive Democratic policy, especially in an administration headed by Hillary Clinton.

Simply, what Soros wants, he gets. And it’s clear from his history that he wants to smudge away national borders and create the sort of globalist nightmare represented by the European Union.

In recent years, Soros has turned his attention back to Europe. Is it a coincidence that the continent is currently in economic and social disarray?

Another Home Run: the Ukrainian Conflict

There’s no doubt about Soros’s great influence on US foreign policy. In an October 1995 PBS interview with Charlie Rose, he said, “I do now have access [to US Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott]. There is no question. We actually work together [on Eastern European policy].”

Soros’s meddling reared its ugly head again in the Russia-Ukraine conflict, which began in early 2014.

In a May 2014 interview with CNN, Soros stated he was responsible for establishing a foundation in the Ukraine that ultimately led to the overthrow of the country’s elected leader and the installation of a junta handpicked by the US State Department, at the time headed by none other than Hillary Clinton:

CNN Host: First on Ukraine, one of the things that many people recognized about you was that you during the revolutions of 1989 funded a lot of dissident activities, civil society groups in Eastern Europe and Poland, the Czech Republic. Are you doing similar things in Ukraine?

Soros: Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia. And the foundation has been functioning ever since and played an important part in events now.

The war that ripped through the Ukrainian region of Donbass resulted in the deaths of over 10,000 people and the displacement of over 1.4 million people. As collateral damage, a Malaysia Airlines passenger jet was shot down, killing all 298 on board.

But once again Soros was there to profit from the chaos he helped create. His prize in Ukraine was the state-owned energy monopoly Naftogaz.

Soros again had his US cronies, Secretary of the Treasury Jack Lew and US consulting company McKinsey, advise the puppet government of Ukraine to privatize Naftogaz.

Although Soros’s exact stake in Naftogaz has not been disclosed, in a 2014 memo he pledged to invest up to $1 billion in Ukrainian businesses, but no other Ukrainian holdings have since been reported.

His Latest Success: the European Refugee Crisis
Soros’s agenda is fundamentally about the destruction of national borders. This has recently been shown very clearly with his funding of the European refugee crisis.

The refugee crisis has been blamed on the civil war currently raging in Syria. But did you ever wonder how all these people suddenly knew Europe would open its gates and let them in?

The refugee crisis is not a naturally occurring phenomenon. It coincided with OSF donating money to the US-based Migration Policy Institute and the Platform for International Cooperation on Undocumented Migrants, both Soros-sponsored organizations. Both groups advocate the resettlement of third-world Muslims into Europe.

In 2015, a Sky News reporter found “Migrant Handbooks” on the Greek island of Lesbos. It was later revealed that the handbooks, which are written in Arabic, had been given to refugees before crossing the Mediterranean by a group called “Welcome to the EU.”

Welcome to the EU is funded by—you guessed it—the Open Society Foundations.

Soros has not only backed groups that advocate the resettlement of third-world migrants into Europe, he in fact is the architect of the “Merkel Plan.”

The Merkel Plan was created by the European Stability Initiative whose chairman Gerald Knaus is a senior fellow at none other than the Open Society Foundations.

The plan proposes that Germany should grant asylum to 500,000 Syrian refugees. It also states that Germany, along with other European nations, should agree to help Turkey, a country that’s 98% Muslim, gain visa-free travel within the EU starting in 2016.

Political Discourse

The refugee crisis has raised huge concern in European countries like Hungary.

In response to 7,000 migrants entering Hungarian territory per day in 2015, the Hungarian government reestablished border control in order to keep the hordes of refugees from entering the country.

Of course this did not go down well with Soros and his close allies, the Clintons.

Bill Clinton has since come out and accused both Poland and Hungary of thinking “democracy is too much trouble” and wanting to have a “Putin-like authoritarian dictatorship.”

Seeing through Clinton’s comments, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán responded by saying, “The remarks made about Hungary and Poland … have a political dimension. These are not accidental slips of the tongue. And these slips or remarks have been multiplying since we are living in the era of the migrant crisis. And we all know that behind the leaders of the Democratic Party, we have to see George Soros.”

He went on to say that “although the mouth belongs to Clinton, the voice belongs to Soros.”

Soros has since said of Orbán’s policy toward the migrants: “His plan treats the protection of national borders as the objective and the refugees as an obstacle. Our plan treats the protection of refugees as the objective and national borders as the obstacle.”

It’s hard to imagine that he could be any clearer in his globalist intentions.

The Profit Motive

So why is Soros going to such lengths to flood Europe with hordes of third-world Muslims?

We can’t be sure, but it has recently come to light that Soros has taken a large series of “bearish derivative positions” against US stocks. Apparently, he thinks that causing chaos in Europe will spread the contagion to the United States, thus sending US markets spiraling downward.

The destruction of Europe through flooding it with millions of unassimilated Muslims is a direct plan to cause economic and social chaos on the Continent.

Another example of turmoil equaling profit for George Soros, who seems to have his tentacles in most geopolitical events.

We all understand correlation is not causation. However, given Soros’s extraordinary wealth, political connections, and his long track record of seeing and profiting from chaos, he is almost certainly a catalyst for much of the geopolitical turmoil now occurring.

He is intent on destroying national borders and creating a global governance structure with unlimited powers. From his comments directed toward Viktor Orbán, we can see he clearly views national leaders as his juniors, expecting them to become puppets that sell his narrative to the ignorant masses.

Soros sees himself as a missionary carrying out the globalist agenda taught to him by his early mentors. He uses his vast political connections to influence government policy and create crises, both economic and social, to further this agenda.

By all appearances, Soros is conspiring against humanity and is hell-bent on the destruction of Western democracies.

To any rational thinker, some global events just don’t make sense. Why, for example, would Western democracies take in millions of people whose values are completely incompatible with their own?

When we look closely at the agenda being actively promoted by the leading globalist puppet master, George Soros, things become a little clearer.

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On Soros & Gold

David, again.

While I’m not a conspiracy theorist per se, I do believe there is a naturally occurring and constant collaboration about shared interests occurring amongst the heads of governments, corporations, investment managers and all of the bottom feeders that survive off their scraps.

What I find most interesting about Soros is that he is so obvious in his intentions and persistent in their pursuit. Given the consequences of his actions, it is also clear he’s a believer in moral relativism and that the ends justify the means.

That he turns a nice buck in his crusade for what certainly rhymes with a one-world government is a Soros hallmark.

“It allows me the money needed to fund my philanthropies” he might answer to the charges he is profiting from blood in the streets he was instrumental in spilling.

Going forward when something big is happening geopolitically, I am going to start my analysis by checking under rocks for signs of Soros.

At the beginning of this article we noted that Soros has gone big into American Barrick (ABX), a leading gold producer. As of the end of March it was his single largest holding at 7.36% of his overall portfolio.

As telling, he has dumped a lot of his more conventional stocks in recent months.

Given the man’s inside track – and active manipulations – you might want to take the hint and pick up some physical gold as an insurance policy against a systematic shock.

If you already own gold, I probably wouldn’t chase it here as it has had a good run of late. Ditto silver which is up 46% year to date. But if you don’t own some, adding precious metals to your portfolio as a long-term holding, even at today’s prices, makes sense.

Per last week, I continue to believe the gold stocks have probably gotten ahead of themselves and could be in for a pretty significant correction. If so, I would be inclined to up my allocation to the sector to 20% of my total portfolio.

That said, no one can predict the future and gold could continue to power ahead, with the gold shares a more leveraged way to play the sector.

As always with gold shares, it is important to remember a few things:

In most cases, these are speculations. That’s because their financial metrics often don’t line up with anything looking like a good value. What you are really betting on is a revaluation of the ounces of gold or silver a company is sitting on. Thus, if a company is sitting on one million ounces of gold and gold goes up by $100, the company just got a lot more valuable.

Never fall in love with a gold stock. Set a rational return goal and once hit, at least scrape your original investment off the table. That way you are playing with the casino’s money.
Also per my article last week, keep in mind that should gold stocks buck the trend in a future global equities correction, the money managers who own big positions in gold stocks will almost certainly dump their holdings in order to dress up the rest of their portfolios. As the trading volume in precious metals share is relatively thin, you want to beat them out the door.


Embrace the volatility. The low trading volume of most of these stocks is a key reason they have such explosive upside. Any significant uptick in investor interest can send a stock soaring.
However, the flipside is also true. In the bear market that started in 2011, the majority of the precious metals stocks lost upwards of 75% of their value and many simply dried up and went away. Enjoy the ride, but don’t stay too late at the party.

Earlier this week I commented to a friend that if the EU was going to remain relevant, there had to be some major financial pain dished out post-Brexit. To let that seminal event pass with nothing more than the equivalent of a global shrug would entirely change how people view the European Union.

The bottom line, I’m expecting some volatility, perhaps triggered by Soros taking a second run at crushing the British pound, the source of much of his fortune and fame.

It’s promising to be a long, hot summer.

Here Come the Clowns

Nothing comes close to the Get Out of Jail card handed by the clowns at the FBI to Hillary over her private email servers. This despite pretty much no one disputes she broke any number of federal laws of the sort which would have landed a lesser clown in jail.

To quote FBI Director James Comey, “Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.”

There is nuance in that statement. For starters, that there is evidence of violations. But also the stark political reality that no “reasonable prosecutor” would enforce the laws, considering who the perp is: the standard bearer for the Democrats going into this election.

Besides, going after Clinton means crossing swords with Soros and no “reasonable prosecutor” would want to do that.

Just saying…

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/14/16 09:24 PM

Jim Willie:New World Order Elites In Fear Of Gold Standard & White Hat Society

Published on Jul 8, 2016
"Numerous topics covered, all over the map, from the British Exit, to the overturning of the Western Elite by the Asian ancient wealthy families known as the White Dragon Society, the installation of the Gold Standard with its many positive effects, along with some stories on false terror incidents and some atypical Jackass forecasts

My Comment : Two things that struck out from this interview, Jim says that he suspect that his main source, named "the voice", is working with the Chinese to set up the gold standard which would explain why "the voice" knows so much of what goes on behind the scenes. If that is so, then Jim is well connected.

The second thing is after the 1hr mark, Jim talks about the White Dragon Society which consist of Chinese Royal families. Up to now, I have only heard Benjamin Fulford talked about this same group. Most likely Ben and Jim have different informants having different task from this society.

What's is in common from Ben's and Jim's sources is they both express the same exact goals of this White Dragon Society. Jim explains why he strongly believes that this current KM(Khazarian Mafia) Tyrants system that ravage the world today will not be replaced by another same old system by the Chinese with a different robe. His reason lies in their difference polar belief system. The current ruling Elites are Satanists whereas these Royal Chinese family are Buddhist. There's a sharp contrast in beliefs between the two.

Jim's words : "The Eastern directives is about: Global Harmony, taking good care of the earth rather than destroying it with chemtrails, GMO's foods, fracking the water systems, harping HAARP to create earthquakes and tsunamies... The East has rebelled against the Western agenda to wreck the earth. The East has rebelled against the Western agenda of Bond fraud, monetary fraud, and all kinds of economic fraud towards impoverishing the world including home equities in Western nations that used to be the corner stones...its been wrecked. The Chinese and the White Dragon Societies has made demands with threats to the Western Elites. What I have heard that in early 2015, 90% of the entire Western Elites has signed on and conformed to the Eastern directives regarding earth integrity and banking security and integrity. I'm talking about the Rockfeller, Bush and Rothschild families.

I think I don't need to expand what the Satanist goals are as we see it now. But Buddhist teaches to be in harmony with nature by not exploit it or manipulating it. Here's a quote of their beliefs :
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The Buddha taught that respect for life and the natural world is essential. By living simply one can be in harmony with other creatures and learn to appreciate the interconnectedness of all lives. The simplicity of life involves developing openness to our environment and relating to the world with awareness and responsive perception. It also enables us to enjoy without possessing, and mutually benefit each other without manipulation." 1


So Jim says (same thing as Ben always been saying) these Chinese Royal Families are for restoring the earth, and the nations economies.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/14/16 11:49 PM

Who is this slick willie? He doesn't sound like a legitimate financial advisor let alone anything else.
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/15/16 06:39 AM

Agree that the devil has both hands in earth's financial confusion that is teetering on the brink of disaster.

I find the "eastern directives" rather hypocritical.
The Chinese are anything but "earth friendly".

Does this sound like an environmental friendly place?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_in_China

Their water, air, soil pollution has reached toxic proportions.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/16/16 01:42 PM

My comment: Good article that gives an alternative perspective of the root of terrorism.

I had already brought forth an article about the Saudi involvement in the formation of the terrorist via their Wahhabi religion promoted worldwide in their mosque.(see Post#179166 to learn about the difference between the Shia and Sunni and the Sunni-Wahhabi-Saudi connection with ISIS). I wouldn't go as far as saying that the Saudi is the main contributor of these terrorist as this writer seem to be saying. I agree it was via the Saudi state intolerant religious idealism that these terrorist were created by taking writings of the Koran LITTERALLY (we have the same problems within the Christians history). I would agree with the opinion of the people inside these devastated countries who points their fingers at the US and Israel as being the most responsible. Turkey also has played another major role in facilitating this operation in allowing ISIS to go thru their borders to enter Syria and Iraq while providing medical aid to ISIS injured soldiers and reselling ISIS stolen oil. Then the Western countries also played other roles in this. To my understanding, all countries allied to Mystery Babylon to a greater or lesser degree had a role and contributed in this Global terrorism plague.

As you know, the Lord has "this plague of terrorism" in His plan. He's on top of it and at the end He will use it for His purpose. I often wonder if "the heathens" in Joel 2:17 might be this group of global terrorist? Maybe the Lord will use them to bring repentance to all the Christian denominations just before the latter rain?

AV Jl 2:15 "Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast[day of atonement], call a solemn assembly: 16. Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet. 17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep[could be all the pastors of all denominations] between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where [is] their God?"

Well we will see what the Lord has in mind how to fulfill this prophecy. Many has speculated and expects that this Babylonian created group of terrorism most likely will get out of their control and become a grand problem. I believe the Lord has a solution to every problem.(maybe it is Joel 2:17?)

The Global Plague Of Terrorism
http://orientalreview.org/2016/07/15/the-global-plague-of-terrorism/
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by Gulam ASGAR MITHA (Canada)

Pakistan, a nation of 200 million, is witnessing a plethora of oppression, injustice, tyranny, religious exploitation and blatant lying. A majority of the population live in either various forms of poverty as victims or in fear of targeted killings and kidnappings for ransom by workers of the major political parties and religious terrorists. The perpetrators – politicians and judiciary (the legal system including the upholders of law) as well as the clergy (known as ulema or mullah) are corrupt to the very hilt and this has filtered deep into the fabric of the nation’s national character.

The brunt of this is being felt among the people living in villages and ghettos who’re being exploited mainly by the clergy while 6-10% of the rich and upper middle class who live in large cities continue to eat the fruits sowed with the seeds of corruption in every government heirarchy. Pakistan is a nation in chaos as are many other Muslim countries whose citizens are victims of terrorism, tyranny, corruption, oppression and injustice. These will be illustrated as several epitomes in the following paragraphs.

I was going to omit reference to the corruption in the military but after receiving a rather interesting email, I decided to include the contents after investigating the authenticity of the email. In brief, during his regime, General Zia-ul-Haq of Pakistan was en route to USA on an official visit with his wife. Several gifts were loaded on the plane for distribution and among them were some marble lamps. Due to last minute plan changes, the marble lamps were not loaded in the cargo section. The Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) found the lamps left behind and after failing to trace the owner(s), broke the lamps and found them stuffed with heroin. After several arrests, the track led to Zia’s ADC Captain Qamar Zaman, the “adopted son” of the general. I traced an article in Pakistan Tribune newspaper of 11 October, 2011 as well as the book “Profiles of Intelligence” by Brigadier A.I. Tirmizi. Fascinatingly, Qamar Zaman was appointed Chairman of Pakistan’s National Accountability Board (NAB) the very authority charged to investigate corruption. Details of Qamar Zaman’s corruption are noted on the referenced article.

On 9 July 2016 a noble and humble Pakistani philanthropist, Abdul Suttar Edhi, died at the age of 88 in Karachi serving humanity, the very essence of Islam. In a blog EDHI: A LIFE LESS ORDINARY in the newspaper The Dawn , filmmaker and journalist Hassan Zaidi wrote In fact, if anything made him (Edhi) bitter it was how some mullahs (clergy) had perverted the spirit of religion with literal interpretations. He would rail many times about how the clergy only created problems for other people, never helped those in need. In another anonymous blog, Edhi’s wife Bilquis stated that “What we are doing (charity) should be done by the government and should be appreciated, but instead we are blamed.” I remember an Italian saying ‘the fish smells from the head’ – true enough.

The corruption, tyranny, oppression, religious intolerance, terrorism and injustice in Pakistan are representative across the entire Muslim world. Muslims are fleeing from their own countries and seeking sanctuary anywhere where they can escape the horrific crimes being perpetrated against innocent men, women and children by their leaders and extremist groups like Al-Qaeda, Islamic State and Taliban.

Ask Muslims about the roots of terrorism and they’re quick to point the fingers at the USA or Israel. They’re not thinking. They’re not thinking inwardly. The plague of terrorism is homemade, not foreign. The western countries however prop up the Muslim perpetrators with bribes and political protection so that they can extract economic benefits from the mayhem. Why not exploit the homegrown situation?

Terrorism was born predominantly in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan as a tool to expel Soviets from Afghanistan in 1980s. The other day I was asked about these three countries. The official descriptions of Pakistan and Afghanistan are THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN and ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF AFGHANISTAN. I posed a question to several Muslims: are these two countries Islamic or republics or democracies as their leaders and politicians claim? The answers were unanimously ‘no’ in each case. They are hypocrisies and mirror reflections of Saudi Arabian monarchy in every respect. These countries are namesake Islamic only, not in principle or in spirit. The blame also lies with the clergy who mislead Muslims and appease the political leaders for personal gains and power sharing.

The current Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif owes much to the Saudi monarchy as it had granted him sanctuary during his 9 year exile from Pakistan in 1999 following a military coup. Saudi Arabia has granted sanctuary to other heads of Muslim countries known for their extremities of corruption, oppression, tyranny, murder, mayhem and injustice against their peoples. A case is that of Idi Amin President of Uganda from 1971-1979, an incredibly disturbed psychotic who is on record to have killed half million citizens. Another corrupt tyrant-dictator who was granted sanctuary in Saudi Arabia was the former President of Tunisia Zain El-Abedin bin Ali (1987-2011). He fled with his notorious wife Leila bin Ali and nearly 1.5 tons of gold valued at $75 million. Why has the Saudi monarchy granted sanctuary to such tyrants? One can only surmise that “birds of a feather flock together”.

The plague of terrorism was born and nurtured in Afghanistan and Pakistan in prayer houses (mosques) of God under control of fundamentalist clergies trained and funded by the same country that has supported and granted sanctuary to tyrants, dictators, political criminals, unjust rulers, oppressors and murderers. One of them was President Zia-ul-Haq of Pakistan, a religious zealot, who together with Saudi Arabia aspired to promote Wahhabism- an extremist belief far removed from mainstream Islam which preaches humanity and tolerance – across the Muslim world. Fortunately his aspirations died with him in a military airplane crash in 1988 but the monarchy and Wahhabism continues to survive and grow like a cancerous plague of radicalism, terrorism and terrorists.

The plague spans not only the Muslim countries but even the USA and European nations. The only Muslim country which has successfully prevented terrorism within its borders is Iran. Whether they belong to Al-Qaeda, Taliban or the Islamic State (IS), these bearded terrorists are products of extremism and religious fundamentalism, brainwashed in mosques by the Saudi trained clergy to indiscriminately kill men, women and children. Then they vanish in the crowds and find sanctuary in the mosques. They call themselves Muslims who believe that God has chosen them to do His bidding and that they’ll be rewarded in Paradise.

Let us now consider in a couple of paragraphs how to eliminate the global plague. The US and European NATO partners have a grand plan for Saudi Arabia, a nation that cannot defend itself but would willingly pay other Muslim countries to do its dirty job. It has hopes that Pakistan, Afghanistan, other Arab monarchies would send regular army troops to defend the country and the two holy sites in Mecca and Medina. It has thus formed a coalition of Sunni Muslims including Al-Qaeda, IS and Taliban to counter the growing influence of Shia axis (Iran, Iraq, Syria and Hezbollah) in the Middle East. The grand plan is to start a civil war between Shias and Sunnis (both Muslims) and thus contain the plague in US and EU while Muslims will be engaged in throat cutting.

As to the timing of the civil war, it might just well be in less than two years following the US elections. Donald Trump, the Republican Party presidential nominee, is the circus clown who has been thrown into the ring to gauge the sentiments of the Americans towards Muslims while the “terrorists” unleash chaos in the US. Behind the scenes is the juggler, Hillary Clinton (endorsed as the Democratic Party presidential nominee), as she spins a web that will lead to the Shia-Sunni civil war in the Middle East. Iran’s Supreme leader Khamenei warned his nuclear negotiators that under the N-deal is a “half nuclear bowl” suggesting caution that the US-EU has an ulterior motive. Now that the sanctions are gradually being lifted, Iran is economically and militarily preparing towards the eventuality of the civil war that it has foreseen in the “half nuclear bowl”. I perceive that the civil war will be a major regional conflict that will prolong many years till terrorism and fundamentalism will be defeated and peace will prevail but the human toll among Muslims will be massive.

Gulam Asgar Mitha is a retired Technical Safety Engineer. He has worked with several N. American and International oil and gas companies. He has worked in Libya, Qatar, Pakistan, France, Yemen and UAE. Currently Gulam lives in Calgary, Canada and enjoys reading and keeping in tune with current global political issues. The views expressed are his own and do not necessarily coincide with one’s of the Editorial Board.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/20/16 12:46 AM

Originally Posted By: dedication
Agree that the devil has both hands in earth's financial confusion that is teetering on the brink of disaster.

I find the "eastern directives" rather hypocritical.
The Chinese are anything but "earth friendly".

Does this sound like an environmental friendly place?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_in_China

Their water, air, soil pollution has reached toxic proportions.



But is anyone worried about pollution anymore? Everyone is patting themselves on the back for changing their lightbulbs and saving a fraction of a kilowatt hour.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/20/16 05:14 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: dedication
Agree that the devil has both hands in earth's financial confusion that is teetering on the brink of disaster.

I find the "eastern directives" rather hypocritical.
The Chinese are anything but "earth friendly".

Does this sound like an environmental friendly place?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_in_China

Their water, air, soil pollution has reached toxic proportions.



But is anyone worried about pollution anymore? Everyone is patting themselves on the back for changing their lightbulbs and saving a fraction of a kilowatt hour.


I am.

The question is; What to do about it?!? I do what I can, but, in the end it isn't much.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/22/16 09:28 PM

My comment: While terrorist is causing major social problems on top of the current financial collapse with all other problems, George Soros tells countries to accept 300,000 refugees a year and pay $30 billion a year which they don't have and believe that this will prevent their collapse??? Anyone understanding his logic? Or the "their" really means Mystery Babylon aka Cabals, Khazarian Mafia, Luciferians, Zionist, etc....

George Soros Doubles Down: Accept 300k Refugees Costing $30Bn, Or Risk EU Collapse
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-20...isk-eu-collapse
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Seemingly doubling down on his comments in April (following what he called Europe's "flawed asylum policy"), George Soros has expanded his demands from four to seven fundamental pillars on how to prevent the collapse of the European Union. In an article penned for Foreign Policy titled “This Is Europe’s Last Chance to Fix Its Refugee Policy," Soros details his plan (over-riding the current "piecemeal approach") for rescuing Europe before it is too late. Simply put, the billionaire says the EU must take in hundreds of thousands of refugees a year, spend at least 30 billion euros (a minor sum, since he believes it can all be financed by debt and taxes) or Europe faces an "existential threat."

Soros begins ominously: The EU’s piecemeal solutions are coming apart. Only a surge of financial and political creativity can avoid a catastrophe.
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The refugee crisis was already leading to the slow disintegration of the European Union. Then, on June 23, it contributed to an even greater calamity — Brexit. Both of these crises have reinforced xenophobic, nationalist movements across the continent. They will try to win a series of key votes in the coming year — including national elections in France, the Netherlands, and Germany in 2017, a referendum in Hungary on EU refugee policy on Oct. 2, a rerun of the Austrian presidential election on the same day, and a constitutional referendum in Italy in October or November of this year.

Rather than uniting to resist this threat, EU member states have become increasingly unwilling to cooperate with one another. They pursue self-serving, discordant migration policies, often to the detriment of their neighbors. In these circumstances, a comprehensive and coherent European asylum policy is not possible in the short term, despite the efforts of the EU’s governing body, the European Commission. The trust needed for cooperation is lacking. It will have to be rebuilt through a long and laborious process.

This is unfortunate, because a comprehensive policy ought to remain the highest priority for European leaders; the union cannot survive without it. The refugee crisis is not a one-off event; it augurs a period of higher migration pressures for the foreseeable future, due to a variety of causes including demographic and economic imbalances between Europe and Africa, unending conflicts in the broader region, and climate change. Beggar-thy-neighbor migration policies, such as building border fences, will not only further fragment the union; they also seriously damage European economies and subvert global human rights standards.

What would a comprehensive approach look like? It would establish a guaranteed target of at least 300,000 refugees each year who would be securely resettled directly to Europe from the Middle East — a total that hopefully would be matched by countries elsewhere in the world. That target should be large enough to persuade genuine asylum-seekers not to risk their lives by crossing the Mediterranean Sea, especially if reaching Europe by irregular means would disqualify them from being considered genuine asylum-seekers.

This could serve as the basis for Europe to provide sufficient funds for major refugee-hosting countries outside Europe and establish processing centers in those countries; create a potent EU border and coast guard; set common standards for processing and integrating asylum-seekers (and for returning those who do not qualify); and renegotiate the Dublin III Regulation in order to more fairly share the asylum burden across the EU.

And, as ValueWalk's Jacob Wolinksy notes, specifically Soros thinks the seven points below are key...
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First, the EU and the rest of the world must take in a substantial number of refugees directly from front-line countries in a secure and orderly manner, which would be far more acceptable to the public than the current disorder...

Second, the EU must regain control of its borders. There is little that alienates and scares publics more than scenes of chaos...

Third, the EU needs to develop financial tools that can provide sufficient funds for the long-term challenges it faces and not limp from episode to episode...

Fourth, the crisis must be used to build common European mechanisms for protecting borders, determining asylum claims, and relocating refugees...

Fifth, once refugees have been recognized, there needs to be a mechanism for relocating them within Europe in an agreed way...

Sixth, the European Union, together with the international community, must support foreign refugee-hosting countries far more generously than it currently does...

The seventh and final pillar is that, given its aging population, Europe must eventually create an environment in which economic migration is welcome.


Soros concludes as follows:

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The benefits brought by migration far outweigh the costs of integrating immigrants. Skilled economic immigrants improve productivity, generate growth, and raise the absorptive capacity of the recipient country. Different populations bring different skills, but the contributions come as much from the innovations they introduce as from their specific skills — in both their countries of origin and their countries of destination. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence for this, starting with the Huguenots’ contribution to the first industrial revolution by bringing both weaving and banking to England. All the evidence supports the conclusion that migrants have a high potential to contribute to innovation and development if they are given a chance to do so.

Pursuing these seven principles is essential in order to calm public fears, reduce chaotic flows of asylum-seekers, ensure that newcomers are fully integrated, establish mutually beneficial relations with countries in the Middle East and Africa, and meet Europe’s international humanitarian obligations.

The refugee crisis is not the only crisis Europe has to face, but it is the most pressing. And if significant progress could be made on the refugee issue, it would make the other issues — from the continuing Greek debt crisis to the fallout from Brexit to the challenge posed by Russia — easier to tackle. All the pieces need to fit together, and the chances of success remain slim. But as long as there is a strategy that might succeed, all the people who want the European Union to survive should rally behind it.
Interestingly, Soros goes back hundreds of years to give us the examples Huguenots and not fifty years to when France starting letting in migrants from Algeria and Morocco – so far the much recent plan has been a failure most would agree even before the recent terror attack in Nice. While hope continues to spring eternal (for many establishmentarians) that the EU stays together, we can't help but suspect that spending 30 billion euros a year (funded by taxing or indebting EU citizens more) and letting in 'even' 300,000 refugees a year when the social fabric of the looming super-state is near collapse, terrorist attacks are increasing, and unemployment in many European countries is in double digits – will likely be a non-starter.

Soros' full treatise can be found here...
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/22/16 10:22 PM

My comment : Have you noticed the amount of terrorist incidents has increased quite a bit the past two weeks? I agree with Stephen Jones discernment just after the first few days of it...

Winds of Change are Blowing

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/07-2016/winds-of-change-are-blowing/
Jul 16, 2016
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The events of the past few days have been game changers.

First, the murder of five Dallas police officers by a Muslim terrorist has served to deflate the planned “Day of Rage” that was supposed to happen today. Nationwide protests were largely a dud. No doubt some potential protesters wanted to stay away for fear of more violence. Others simply did not wish to be associated with the shooter or the shooting in any way.

After the incidents in Minnesota and Louisiana where police shot and killed black men, a lot of sympathy was generated for the “Black Lives Matter” movement that was birthed in Ferguson, MO last year. That sympathy has now been squandered and lost forever on account of the actions of the sniper who killed Dallas policemen to avenge the actions of the Minnesota police.

The Nice Massacre

The truck massacre in Nice, France by a French Tunisian Muslim screaming Allahu akbar as he ran over men, women, and children has all but doomed political careers of the current pro-immigration leaders of the European nations. If anyone still had sympathies for Muslim immigrants, they are hunkering down now, dead in the water. No one dares to express such sympathy in public any more, lest it cause a riotous backlash.

France is on the verge of a second French Revolution. After the Nice attack, France’s Hollande was quoted as saying, “France must learn to live with terrorism.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-15...-live-terrorism

Really? If the French are not offended by such a statement, then they truly have lost the ability to think properly. But Hollande’s approval rating is about 10%, so there is yet hope for at least 90% of the French. The other 10% are probably recent immigrants.

Germans are getting tired of Angela Merkel, especially after 2000 rapes last New Year’s Day jarred the consciences of a lot of people. Anyone not wearing a burka appears to be fair game, and it is their own fault if they are raped.

Swedes have burned a lot of mosques to the ground. The attitudes of Europeans began to shift last November 13, 2015 with the Paris attacks, but this latest attack has garnered millions of new support for opposition parties who are opposed to any further Muslim immigrants.

This shift will likely also be felt here in America, once people realize that a steady stream of immigrants has been coming to America covertly, with little or no news coverage. Every new Muslim shooting incident increases the anger, fear, and suspicion and convinces a new batch of previously-uninformed Americans that danger is approaching.

We are moving quickly toward civil war unless something changes. In my view, someone up at the top of the Babylonian food chain is deliberately trying to foment trouble in order to justify a declaration of martial law. Don’t get caught up in hatred or fear-based reactions, as this will only serve their devious purpose. Someone is deliberately trying to make both sides angry enough to fight each other, so that the police and military can be seen as the “solution” to the problem which they have caused.

It is important to recognize that the Muslim immigrants are not the underlying problem. They, like everyone else, are being used for nefarious purposes by our own (hidden) Babylonian rulers who give orders to proxies—the visible world leaders. It became US policy to disrupt the Middle East back in 2003, in order to create millions of Muslim refugees so that they could be induced to move to Europe and America where they could be used in a clash of civilizations.

We are being given a choice between Babylon and the Kingdom of Christ. Choose wisely.

The Attempted Coup in Turkey

The attempted military coup in Turkey on July 15 (our main watch date) has the potential for a huge geopolitical shift of alliances. Turkish president Erdo&#287;an is blaming his former ally Fethullah Gulen, now his arch enemy, who had turned against him and now lives in Pennsylvania. Gulen has ties with the Clinton Foundation and to President Obama, who is currently giving him protection and asylum.

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A newly-released email and lobbying documents filed with Congress reveals new ties between Clintonworld and members of a network operated by a mysterious Islamic cleric from Turkey.

Connections between Clinton and acolytes of the imam, Fethullah Gulen, could muddle the complex relationship between the U.S. and Turkey, a key NATO ally, if the former secretary of state wins the White House.

Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdo&#287;an, has mounted an aggressive crackdown against Gulen and his followers, known as Gulenists. Erdo&#287;an, who was once allied with Gulen, has even personally asked President Obama to extradite the 74-year-old guru, who has lived in self-exile in Pennsylvania’s Pocono mountains since 1999.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/13/new-ties-emerge-between-clinton-and-mysterious-islamic-cleric/

In another article, we read,
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It is unclear who is leading the movement. However, Mr Erdogan insisted some in the military have been taking orders from Fethullah Gulen, a US-based Turkish cleric who the president has repeatedly accused of fomenting unrest.

He said the attempted uprising was the work of a "parallel state" and "Pensylvania" - a reference to the state where the cleric is based.


http://news.sky.com/story/turkey-coup-dozens-killed-in-act-of-treason-10503039

Erdo&#287;an smells a US plot to overthrow him, in spite of Obama’s grand pledges of support.

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At this time, Turkish authorities are not permitting aircraft to depart Incirlik,” an American military official said on Saturday morning.

The American official said the United States was seeking an explanation for the decision and other details. As the NYT adds, the move may reflect a desire by Turkey to control its airspace for a time today, as opposed to any shift on its policy toward ISIS, although that remains to be seen especially with Kerry and Lavrov concluding their agreement on how to extend the "long-term ceasefire" in Syria…

Some have speculated that the airbase may be held "hostage" by Ankara as a bargaining chip ahead of demands for the extradition of Erdogan's arch enemy, Fethullah Gulen, currently a resident of the state of Pennsylvania.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-16...-vaults-us-b61-

Today Erdo&#287;an is demanding the extradition of Gulen, causing a diplomatic storm. It is difficult to believe that Obama would back down in this dispute, as this might be seen as a sign of weakness. We need to watch the situation closely.

Erdo&#287;an may have reason to suspect a US plot. In recent weeks, Erdo&#287;an has been patching up his relations with Russia after last year’s shoot down of a Russian fighter jet. The US government does not look kindly on anyone who makes peace with Russia, because it interferes with their plans to instigate World War III. Now Turkey’s relations with the US are souring, and this is bound to push Turkey toward a Russian orbit.

The US airbase in Incirlik, Turkey, which is reputedly where the main Afghani drug traffic into Europe and America is coordinated, is now on lockdown, and the (external) power has been cut. Turkey is not allowing any flights in or out of Incirlik, not even against ISIS. For all practical purposes, the US is no longer a serious factor in the fight against ISIS. This leaves Russia and Iran in nearly full control of the battlefield.

US Secretary of State John Kerry hastily flew to Moscow for direct talks with President Putin. This was apparently done without the approval or authorization of the White House, which has many people wondering who’s in charge. The White House spokesman had nothing to say about it (as of yesterday), but it is clear that the US attempt to isolate Russia has failed, along with the US attempt to be the leader in the fight against ISIS.

Two factions seem to be emerging within the US State Department, one trying to establish peace, the other trying to foment war. The same can be seen within the Pentagon. This lack of unity is bringing about conflicting policies in the fight against ISIS as well as in relations with Russia and other nations. This conflict first became apparent last year when the US began bombing ISIS groups that were being sponsored and funded by the CIA. But it has also been apparent by watching the different directions taken by Obama and Kerry in the past two years.

All of this is part of the internal front in the war between Babylon and the kings from the east. We know from Scripture which side will win this war. We simply do not know how far it will go before the clear winner emerges.


My comment : I was following the news on the day of Turkey's "failed" coup and I assumed Dr. Jones had missed some of the news that was suspecting Erdogan staging the coup.... well after listening to Cybil Edmond, an Turkish and ex-CIA whistleblower, insights and thoughts on Jul 18th Corbett's report, I now think that it was a US & Golan staged coup to measure the public reaction. Cybil believes that this was a pre-coup with another real one probably coming.

She thinks that Erdogan responded to it by trying to insure a failure of a future greater real coup by doing a purge of all of those affiliated with the usurped and infiltration of the Turkish government that happened many decades ago.

This is a very good report with good discernment of who are potentially the real players behind this coup by accounting of Turky's history and current political situation.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/23/16 03:53 PM

My comment : Good compact summary article tying many key historical financial events that I have posted here in this discussion. Stephen looks at these historical events with a Biblical perspective.

by Stephen Jones
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/07-2016/the-next-world-order/

The Next World Order
Jul 14, 2016

We are coming up on July 15, as we do every year about this time.
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Bretton Woods: 70 Years from 1944/46 to 2014/16

The year 2016 is unique, because it is 70 years since the Bretton Woods Agreement was ratified and implemented (March 8-18, 1946). The Agreement was drawn up from July 1-22, 1944, toward the end of World War II, but it took time for the nations to ratify it, so did not go into effect until 1946. This Agreement, based on the US dollar and the gold standard, became a major sign of modern economic Babylon, by which the US dollar has ruled the world for 70 years.

In fact, this is what set up what is called “The New World Order.” It is no longer “new,” and is, in fact, being replaced by the Next World Order, a transitional system brought to you by the kings from the east.

These 70 years began from 1944-1946 and are now ending from 2014-2016. The end of this 70-year cycle also coincides with the end of the “seven times” of divine judgment, when God took the Dominion Mandate from the king of Judah and gave it to Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon.

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Overthrowing the Dollar

There has been dissatisfaction for many years among the nations over the huge advantage that the US economy enjoyed on account of its world reserve currency status. The Vietnam war in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s brought great deficits in the US budget, resulting in overprinting US dollars, relative to its gold holdings. This made many nations nervous. In 1971 France sent a warship to the New York harbor to collect $190 million worth of gold, rather than to accumulate more US dollars. President Nixon then closed the door on gold redemptions on August 15, 1971, so that the US dollar was no longer gold backed. People had to settle for dollars, rather than gold. Faith (in the dollar) replaced substance.

In other words, the Bretton Woods Agreement lasted only 25 years from 1946-1971. The Bretton Woods Agreement was gutted by the Vietnam war. The gold-backed dollar was then replaced by the petro-dollar in 1973 by an agreement with Saudi Arabia to sell all oil in US dollars only. By forcing oil-importing nations to use dollars, the US dollar remained the world reserve currency.

Another 45 years have now passed, and in recent years the US government has used its domination of money to impose its will (hegemony) upon other nations. Those who would not comply were invaded or sanctioned. Much discontent has arisen because of this. In 2010 the US government’s determination to retain control of its hegemonic empire caused China to decide to set up a separate world order. They planned for an alternative to the IMF, the SWIFT payment system, and the London Gold Exchange. US sanctions on Russia in 2014 brought Russia and China into a solid alliance to overthrow the US dollar as the world currency. The US government’s use of sanctions caused the kings from the east to rise up against Babylon.

The uprising against Babylon began to be felt by the end of 2014, just as the “seven times” was ending. In July 2014 we reached the 70-year anniversary of the Bretton Woods Agreement. The Shanghai Gold Exchange went live two months later on September 18, 2014.

The Transfer of Authority[my comment : done "legally" meaning first it has to be done in the court in heaven... then afterwards its manifestation on earth will happened on one of His legal time cycles] from Babylon to the saints of the Most High came into effect on the eighth day of Tabernacles, October 16, 2014. A week later, on October 24, the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) was launched by China.

Those were the events 70 years ago from the Bretton Woods Agreement from 1944-1946. These starting dates suggest that whatever started in 2014 ought to be completed in 2016.

One of the most important shifts occurred on March 12, 2015, when the UK announced its decision to join the AIIB, after President Obama had urged them to boycott it. Other nations followed the UK’s lead within weeks, and when the AIIB officially opened on December 26, 2015, its founding membership was up to 30 nations. (The bank was fully launched on January 16, 2016.) It now has 57 members, representing 62% of the world’s economy, with another 27 expecting to ratify their membership by the end of 2016, when the AIIB member nations will represent 70% of the world’s economy.

The UK’s decision to join the AIIB was a startling rupture in the cohesiveness of Babylonian policy. The UK essentially switched sides and joined with the kings from the east. They did so again on June 23, 2016 when the UK decided to leave Europe. All that remains is for them to join the BRICS alliance for this to be complete. Babylon is falling apart.

China has also established an international payment system called CIPS, “China International Payment System, which is an alternative to the SWIFT system that is controlled by the top Babylonian bankers in the West. The SWIFT system channels all international payments through the Federal Reserve, which gives it enormous power and allows it to lay economic sanctions on any nation it pleases. But with the CIPS in place, there is now an alternative payment system. The CIPS system thus removes an enormous weapon from the hands of Babylon.

These changes are leading up to a truly historical moment that will change the course of world history. In the 1400’s first Portugal’s money and then Spain’s became accepted internationally as a world currency. But each fell in its turn and was replaced. Then in 1517 (the end of the Thyatira era and the start of Sardis in Scripture), the first Dutch guilder became internationally accepted as a world currency. This lasted until the British began to rule the seas in the late 1700’s, and the British pound’s world currency status lasted until World War II.

With London largely destroyed by World War II, confidence in the pound plummeted, and so the Bretton Woods Agreement made the US dollar the new reserve currency in 1944-1946. See the graph here.

https://azizonomics.com/2012/01/04/a-history-of-reserve-currencies-in-one-graph/

That was 70 years ago. The time of the US dollar’s dominance is coming to a close, as more and more nations lose confidence in it, switching their allegiance to the new basket of currencies advocated by China and Russia. The IMF was forced to recognize China’s renminbi as one of the world currencies on December 30, 2015.

This is how Babylon is being overthrown by the kings from the east. Instead of declaring a war using their militaries, which they know would be very destructive to all, they have decided to overthrow the US dollar, which empowers the US military machine. The Babylonian hidden rulers know this, and this is why they have instructed the US government leaders to poke everyone in the eye and to fan flames in every hot spot of the world. They are trying to spark World War III in a vain attempt to maintain power.

China’s economic and financial policy is designed to elevate them to a position of prestige and power in the 21st century without a destructive war. It is a policy that suggests the pattern of the Medes and Persians when overthrowing Babylon without destroying the city.


James Davidson’s Analysis

James Davidson is a founding member and head of the National Taxpayers Union. In the late 1980’s everyone laughed at him when he predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union. But he was right. Now he openly talks about the replacement of the US dollar within the coming year. He says that China and Russia have a four-step plan:

1. Ignore the Bretton Woods Agreement and begin trading in their own currencies, rather than in US dollars. Since Nixon in 1971 had already decided to ignore Bretton Woods by abandoning the gold standard, the US could only complain hypocritically.

2. Create their own International Monetary Fund (IMF). They did so by creating the AIIB in 2015.

3. Create their own global currency (that is, a basket of currencies including the yuan).

4. Sell US dollars (bonds) and trigger the collapse of the US dollar.

The first two items on the list have been completed. The third is nearing completion, which will then allow them to collapse the US dollar itself. This will cause the rest of the nations to lose confidence in the dollar, and they will then demand a new world currency—which is ready to be implemented by the AIIB.


Fallout from the Demise of the Dollar

According to Davidson, we will see seven results of the demise of the dollar.

1. The dollar value will collapse

2. Prices will double

3. Unemployment will triple

4. Social Security and Medicare will suffer and perhaps end

5. Taxes will double as the government’s money tree will be gone

6. Real estate values will plummet by 50%

7. Stocks will collapse by 60-80%

The link below gives some background on Davidson himself and also provides a one-hour video that is very informative. At the end, he advertises some of his books that tell you how to protect yourself from the “Day of Reckoning.” The problem, of course, is that he shares the problem and its causes, but wants you to buy his books to learn the solution. This video is essentially an advertisement, but it also contains much useful information.

http://thesovereigninvestor.com/exclusives/americas-day-reckoning-exposed/?z=497177

Of course, there are always unforeseen problems and/or solutions that may surface at the same time. But this is his analysis, based on past experience. He says this collapse will be three times as bad as the 1929 crash, because back in 1929 the US dollar was still gold backed and was not the world reserve currency. Today the structure is far bigger. Trying to contemplate or plan for the un-reserving of the mammoth US dollar supply is difficult, because it is unique in history.

I see these things in biblical terms, rather than in purely economic terms. To me, this is important because it is what is happening just as the seven times is expiring and Babylon is falling. By studying Scripture, we are able to see how the New World Order is falling and is being replaced by the Next World Order. What world leaders fail to see is that even this will only be a transition into the New Kingdom Order. The outpouring of the Holy Spirit will take the world by surprise, but those who are watchful will help to facilitate this great change.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/24/16 07:50 PM

"If You Can't Touch It, You Don't Own It"
http://www.internationalman.com/articles/if-you-cant-touch-it-you-dont-own-it

by Jeff Thomas

The pending Brexit has, not surprisingly, caused a shake-up in the investment world, particularly in the UK. Of particular note is that, recently, asset management firms in Britain began refusing their clients the right to cash out of their mutual funds. Of the £35 billion invested in such funds, just under £20 billion has been affected.

For those readers who live in the UK, or are invested in UK mutual funds, this is reason to tremble at the knees.

So, why have these investors been refused the right to exit the funds? Well, it’s pretty simple. The trouble is that quite a few of them made the request at about the same time. Of course, the management firms don’t keep enough money on hand to pay them all off, so rather than spend all their money paying off as many clients as possible, then going out of business due to a lack of liquidity, they simply announce a freeze on redemptions.

Those who are outraged may read the fine print of their contracts and find that the fund managers have the right to halt redemptions should “extraordinary circumstances” occur. Who defines “extraordinary circumstances”? The fund managers.

Across the pond in the US, investors are reassured by the existence of the Securities and Exchange Commission, which has the power to refuse this option to investment firms… or not, should they feel that a possible run on redemptions might be destructive to the economy.

Countries differ as to the level of latitude they will allow mutual fund and hedge fund management firms to have on their own, but all of them are likely to err on the side of the protection of the firms rather than the rights of the investor, as the firms will undoubtedly make a good case that a run on funds is unhealthy to the economy.

The Brexit news has created a downward spike in investor confidence in the UK – one that it will recover from, but nevertheless, one that has caused investors to have their investments locked up. They can’t get out, no matter how much they may want to. This fact bears pondering.

Presently, the UK, EU, US, et al., have created a level of debt that exceeds anything the world has ever seen. Historically, extreme debt always ends in an economic collapse. The odiferous effluvium hasn’t yet hit the fan, but we’re not far off from that eventuality. Therefore, wherever you live and invest, a spike such as the one presently occurring in the UK could result in you being refused redemption. Should there then be a concurrent drop in the market that serves to gut the fund’s investments, you can expect to sit by and watch as the fund heads south but be unable to exit the fund.

As stated above, excessive debt results in an economic collapse, which results in a market crash. It’s a time-tested scenario and the last really big one began in 1929, but the present level of debt is far higher than in 1929, so we can anticipate a far bigger crash this time around.

But the wise investor will, of course, diversify, assuring him that if one investment fails, another will save him. Let’s look at some of the most prominent ones and consider how they might fare at a time when the economy is teetering on the edge.

Stocks and Bonds

Presently, the stock market is in an unprecedented bubble. The market has been artificially propped up by banks and governments and grows shakier by the day. Bonds are in a worse state – the greatest bubble they have ever been in. This bubble is just awaiting a pin. We can’t know when it will arrive, but we can be confident that it’s coming. Rosy today, crisis tomorrow.

Cash on Deposit

Cyprus taught us in 2013 that a country can allow its banks to simply confiscate (steal) depositors’ funds should they decide that there is an “emergency situation” – i.e., the bank is in trouble. Unfortunately, the US (in 2010), Canada (in 2013), and the EU (in 2014) have all passed laws allowing banks to decide whether they’re “in trouble.” If they so decide, they have a free rein in confiscating your deposit.

Safe Deposit Boxes

Banks in North America and Europe have begun advising their clients that they cannot store money or jewellery in safe deposit boxes. Some governments have passed legislation requiring those who rent safe deposit boxes to register the location of the box, its number, and its contents with the government.

Each year, the storage of valuables in a safe deposit box is becoming more dubious.

Pensions

Pension plans tend to be heavily invested in stocks and bonds, making them increasingly at risk in a downturn. To make matters worse, some governments have begun to grab pension money. Others, such as the US, have announced plans to force pensions to invest in US Government Treasuries – which, in a major economic downturn, could go to zero.

These are amongst the most preferred stores of wealth and are all very much at risk. But there are also two choices that, if invested correctly, promise greater safety.


Real Estate

The Mutual funds in the UK that are presently in trouble are heavily invested in real estate. But real estate that you invest in directly does not face the same risk. However, any real estate that’s located in a country that’s presently preparing for an economic crisis, such as those mentioned above, will be at risk. Real estate in offshore jurisdictions that are not inclined to be at risk is a far better bet. (An additional advantage is that real estate in offshore locations is not even reportable for tax purposes in most countries because it cannot be expatriated to another country.)

Precious Metals

Precious metals are a highly liquid form of investment. They can be bought and sold quickly and can be shipped anywhere in the world, or traded for metals in another location. Of course, storage facilities in at-risk countries may find themselves at the mercy of their governments. However, private storage facilities exist in Hong Kong, Singapore, the Cayman Islands, Switzerland, and other locations that do not come under the control of the EU or US. Precious metals ownership provides greater protection against rapacious governments, but storage must be outside such countries.

The lesson to take away here is that if you can’t touch it, you don’t own it. Banks and fund management firms can freeze your wealth so that you can’t access it. Governments and banks can confiscate your wealth. If you don’t have the power to put your hands on your wealth on demand, you don’t truly own it.

This evening, make a list of all your deposits and investments and determine what percentage of them you do truly own. If you decide that that percentage is too low for you to accept, you may wish to implement some changes… before others do it for you.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/13/16 08:54 PM

My comment : Mystery[musterion, "SECRET"] Babylon have done a great job in keeping their organization SECRET all these years. Part of the destruction of Babylon is for their SECRET to be revealed. Who do you think is on the top : the RCC or a Jewish-Edomite sect?

Originally Posted By: Strong's dictionary
G3466 musterion

from a derivative of muo (to shut the mouth);

a secret or "mystery" (through the idea of silence imposed by initiation into religious rites).


Who really runs the IMF?

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/08-2016/who-really-runs-the-imf/

by Stephen Jones

Aug 11, 2016

Here is a mainstream news article that reports how the IMF appears to be run by secret rulers. Even the IMF’s own Independent Evaluation Office (IEO) cannot figure out who is really making the decisions in the IMF. I believe that if they can discover the answer to their questions, the IEO will uncover the real rulers of Babylon, who remain secretive and exercise control through their agents in the IMF (and in governments).

All of this is now coming to the surface, now that the IMF has to admit that its decisions regarding Greece were “calamitous misjudgments” with “warning signs of impending crisis.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016...ises-for-the-i/

Quote:
The International Monetary Fund’s top staff misled their own board, made a series of calamitous misjudgments in Greece, became euphoric cheerleaders for the euro project, ignored warning signs of impending crisis, and collectively failed to grasp an elemental concept of currency theory.

This is the lacerating verdict of the IMF’s top watchdog on the fund’s tangled political role in the eurozone debt crisis, the most damaging episode in the history of the Bretton Woods institutions.

It describes a “culture of complacency”, prone to “superficial and mechanistic” analysis, and traces a shocking breakdown in the governance of the IMF, leaving it unclear who is ultimately in charge of this extremely powerful organisation….

In an astonishing admission, the report said its own investigators were unable to obtain key records or penetrate the activities of secretive "ad-hoc task forces". Mrs Lagarde herself is not accused of obstruction.

“Many documents were prepared outside the regular established channels; written documentation on some sensitive matters could not be located. The IEO in some instances has not been able to determine who made certain decisions or what information was available, nor has it been able to assess the relative roles of management and staff," it said.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/14/16 08:26 PM

My comment: Tension is building up in Germany.

I like how Peggy Noonan from Wall street Journal accurately analysed the problem of the Elites vs. the people :

"At its heart it is not only a detachment from, but a lack of interest in, the lives of your countrymen, of those who are not at the table, and who understand that they’ve been abandoned by their leaders’ selfishness and mad virtue-signalling."

This is not only an "Elitist" problem but basically with any carnal leadership -- "lack of interest in the lives of your countrymen". Basically, what the Lord reproach the Israelites of old and religious leaders throughout the generation who failed to love their "flock" and give the needed attentive care to the "vineyard" by which did not produce the desired fruits the Lord required.

German President Booed, Attacked; Claims "The People Are The Problem, Not The Elites"

Tyler Durden's picture
by Tyler Durden
Aug 13, 2016 10:08 PM

Quote:
Revolution is closer than you think...

Following Angela Merkel's earlier calls for German CEOs to hire refugees, and as Martin Armstrong notes, Germany has raided its healthcare funds to support the refugee crisis...

The government passed a law that allows them to take 1.5 billion euros from the liquidity reserve of the public health care fund (10 billion euros in total, paid by all members and additionally by the taxpayer) and to give that money to refugees / asylum seekers.

What would you call this? Insane?
We thought a reminder of the tensions that are bubbling under the surface in Germany.

As VoxDay noted appropriately, Germany's elite is going to get a well-deserved one soon as German President Joachim Gauck was booed and attacked in the streets of Sebnitz, Saxony after he blurted out the following unbelievbable statement:

The elites are not the problem, the people are the problem.


Official German State TV and State Radio reported that "a handful of right wing extremists" have attacked the president and disturbed the otherwise peaceful and welcoming reception of the President. This is simply not the case, as seen in the video...



The people repeatedly shouted "Traitor!", "Get out!", "We don't want STASI Pigs" and "We are the people!".

One man, carrying his young son on his shoulders, appears to have spit on him whilst exclaiming insults. Other citizens were heard saying "You killed our children" and "What have you done to us?". They were blocked by police in riot gear, to whom they said "You are protecting warmongers, shame on you!"

The situation escalated and the riot police was forced to use pepper spray.

Heiko Maas, the German Justice Minister, called the attackers "cowards who insult the president because of their personal frustration". He himself was booed off the stage as a traitor by hundreds of Germans at the annual Labor Day celebration on the 1st of May. He said that they will be persecuted immediately, as "it cannot be allowed that such a tiny minority has influence on the political climate in Germany".

Writing in The Wall Street Journal, Peggy Noonan explained perfectly...

Quote:
The larger point is that this is something we are seeing all over, the top detaching itself from the bottom, feeling little loyalty to it or affiliation with it.

It is a theme I see working its way throughout the West’s power centers.

At its heart it is not only a detachment from, but a lack of interest in, the lives of your countrymen, of those who are not at the table, and who understand that they’ve been abandoned by their leaders’ selfishness and mad virtue-signalling.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/17/16 05:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment: Tension is building up in Germany.

I like how Peggy Noonan from Wall street Journal accurately analysed the problem of the Elites vs. the people :

"At its heart it is not only a detachment from, but a lack of interest in, the lives of your countrymen, of those who are not at the table, and who understand that they’ve been abandoned by their leaders’ selfishness and mad virtue-signalling."

This is not only an "Elitist" problem but basically with any carnal leadership -- "lack of interest in the lives of your countrymen". Basically, what the Lord reproach the Israelites of old and religious leaders throughout the generation who failed to love their "flock" and give the needed attentive care to the "vineyard" by which did not produce the desired fruits the Lord required.

German President Booed, Attacked; Claims "The People Are The Problem, Not The Elites"

Tyler Durden's picture
by Tyler Durden
Aug 13, 2016 10:08 PM

Quote:
Revolution is closer than you think...

Following Angela Merkel's earlier calls for German CEOs to hire refugees, and as Martin Armstrong notes, Germany has raided its healthcare funds to support the refugee crisis...

The government passed a law that allows them to take 1.5 billion euros from the liquidity reserve of the public health care fund (10 billion euros in total, paid by all members and additionally by the taxpayer) and to give that money to refugees / asylum seekers.

What would you call this? Insane?
We thought a reminder of the tensions that are bubbling under the surface in Germany.

As VoxDay noted appropriately, Germany's elite is going to get a well-deserved one soon as German President Joachim Gauck was booed and attacked in the streets of Sebnitz, Saxony after he blurted out the following unbelievbable statement:

The elites are not the problem, the people are the problem.


Official German State TV and State Radio reported that "a handful of right wing extremists" have attacked the president and disturbed the otherwise peaceful and welcoming reception of the President. This is simply not the case, as seen in the video...



The people repeatedly shouted "Traitor!", "Get out!", "We don't want STASI Pigs" and "We are the people!".

One man, carrying his young son on his shoulders, appears to have spit on him whilst exclaiming insults. Other citizens were heard saying "You killed our children" and "What have you done to us?". They were blocked by police in riot gear, to whom they said "You are protecting warmongers, shame on you!"

The situation escalated and the riot police was forced to use pepper spray.

Heiko Maas, the German Justice Minister, called the attackers "cowards who insult the president because of their personal frustration". He himself was booed off the stage as a traitor by hundreds of Germans at the annual Labor Day celebration on the 1st of May. He said that they will be persecuted immediately, as "it cannot be allowed that such a tiny minority has influence on the political climate in Germany".

Writing in The Wall Street Journal, Peggy Noonan explained perfectly...

Quote:
The larger point is that this is something we are seeing all over, the top detaching itself from the bottom, feeling little loyalty to it or affiliation with it.

It is a theme I see working its way throughout the West’s power centers.

At its heart it is not only a detachment from, but a lack of interest in, the lives of your countrymen, of those who are not at the table, and who understand that they’ve been abandoned by their leaders’ selfishness and mad virtue-signalling.


This European acceptance of all these refugees sounds like a Pope Francis idea.

Europe is paying for all their efforts to end the European Union, I believe. Another self-imposed crisis.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/20/16 06:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Alchemy

This European acceptance of all these refugees sounds like a Pope Francis idea.

hmmm. I doubt that. I don't think Pope Francis is part of the "Elites" that are in the top of the "Mystery[secret] Babylon" pyramid. Plus I don't know how much he is supporting the "Elites".

Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Europe is paying for all their efforts to end the European Union, I believe. Another self-imposed crisis.

I don't believe it is in Mystery[secret] Babylon's interest to end the European Union. Actually the end of the European Union will indicate the end of Mystery Babylon.

Have you seen the European Union's building ?

http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-eu-parliament/

It is a look alike of the tower of Babel.

It is the foundational superstate type for Mystery Babylon's NEW WORLD ORDER project where Europe is the model of a world wide union. Well their plan is not going to succeed according to the word of God. And we are now seeing their (Mystery Babylon's system) destruction.

The Brexit vote on June 23rd is a major indication of a soon collapse of the European Union as it open the door of many discontent countries to seperate also.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/21/16 07:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Alchemy

This European acceptance of all these refugees sounds like a Pope Francis idea.

hmmm. I doubt that. I don't think Pope Francis is part of the "Elites" that are in the top of the "Mystery[secret] Babylon" pyramid. Plus I don't know how much he is supporting the "Elites".

Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Europe is paying for all their efforts to end the European Union, I believe. Another self-imposed crisis.

I don't believe it is in Mystery[secret] Babylon's interest to end the European Union. Actually the end of the European Union will indicate the end of Mystery Babylon.

Have you seen the European Union's building ?

http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-eu-parliament/

It is a look alike of the tower of Babel.

It is the foundational superstate type for Mystery Babylon's NEW WORLD ORDER project where Europe is the model of a world wide union. Well their plan is not going to succeed according to the word of God. And we are now seeing their (Mystery Babylon's system) destruction.

The Brexit vote on June 23rd is a major indication of a soon collapse of the European Union as it open the door of many discontent countries to seperate also.


Not only do I believe the Papacy is part of the Babylon elites, I believe the Papacy leads the Babylon elites! Also, I didn't mean the Babylon elites want to end the European Union, they don't. But, I believe most of the people in the European Union want to get out of the European Union, like Brexit.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/22/16 12:32 PM

Sorry for misunderstanding your statement Alchemy. I suspected that was the case. I'll get back to your first statement once I find an particular historical article that shows that the Papacy is in submission to the second beast of Rev 13.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/22/16 12:38 PM

Shocking Government Report Finds $6.5 Trillion In Taxpayer Funds "Unaccounted For"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-19...nds-unaccounted

Aug 20 by Tyler Durden
Quote:
Last week, we first touched on a topic which, in any non-banana republic, would be a far greater scandal than what Ryan Lochte may or may not have been doing in a Rio bathroom: namely, government corruption, falsification and potential fraud and embezzlement, which has resulted in the Pentagon being unable to account for up to $8.5 trillion in taxpayer funding.

Today, Reuters follows up on this disturbing issue, and reveals that the Army’s finances are so jumbled it had to make trillions of dollars of improper accounting adjustments to create an illusion that its books are balanced. The Defense Department’s Inspector General, in a June report, said the Army made $2.8 trillion in wrongful adjustments to accounting entries in one quarter alone in 2015, and $6.5 trillion for the year. Yet the Army lacked receipts and invoices to support those numbers or simply made them up.

As a result, the Army’s financial statements for 2015 were “materially misstated,” the report concluded. The “forced” adjustments rendered the statements useless because “DoD and Army managers could not rely on the data in their accounting systems when making management and resource decisions.”

For those wondering, this is what $1 trillion in $100 bills looks like.



Now multiply by 6.

This is not the first time the DoD has fudged its books: disclosure of the Army’s manipulation of numbers is the latest example of the severe accounting problems plaguing the Defense Department for decades. The report affirms a 2013 Reuters series revealing how the Defense Department falsified accounting on a large scale as it scrambled to close its books. As a result, there has been no way to know how the Defense Department – far and away the biggest chunk of Congress’ annual budget – spends the public’s money.... The Army lost or didn’t keep required data, and much of the data it had was inaccurate, the IG said.

In other words, it is effectively impossible to account how the US government has spent trillions in taxpayer funds over the years. It also means that since the money can not be accounted for, a substantial part of it may have been embezzled.

“Where is the money going? Nobody knows,” said Franklin Spinney, a retired military analyst for the Pentagon and critic of Defense Department planning, cited by Reuters.

The significance of the accounting problem goes beyond mere concern for balancing books, Spinney said. Both presidential candidates have called for increasing defense spending amid current global tension; the only issue is that more spending may not be necessary - all that is needed is less government corruption and theft.

An accurate accounting could reveal deeper problems in how the Defense Department spends its money. Its 2016 budget is $573 billion, more than half of the annual budget appropriated by Congress. The Army account’s errors will likely carry consequences for the entire Defense Department. Congress set a September 30, 2017 deadline for the department to be prepared to undergo an audit.

What's worse is that the "fudging" of the numbers is well known to everyone in the government apparatus. For years, the Inspector General – the Defense Department’s official auditor – has inserted a disclaimer on all military annual reports. The accounting is so unreliable that “the basic financial statements may have undetected misstatements that are both material and pervasive.”

Not surprisingly, trying to figure out where the adjustments are has proven to be impossible.

Quote:
Jack Armstrong, a former Defense Inspector General official in charge of auditing the Army General Fund, said the same type of unjustified changes to Army financial statements already were being made when he retired in 2010.

The Army issues two types of reports – a budget report and a financial one. The budget one was completed first. Armstrong said he believes fudged numbers were inserted into the financial report to make the numbers match.

“They don’t know what the heck the balances should be,” Armstrong said.

Meanwhile, for government employees, such as those at the Defense Finance and Accounting Services (DFAS), which handles a wide range of Defense Department accounting services, the whole issue is one big joke, and they refer to preparation of the Army’s year-end statements as “the grand plug,” Armstrong said. “Plug”, of course, being another name for made-up numbers.

Finally, how on earth can one possibly "not account" for trillions? As Reuters adds, at first glance adjustments totaling trillions may seem impossible. The amounts dwarf the Defense Department’s entire budget. However, when making changes to one account also require making changes to multiple levels of sub-accounts. That creates a domino effect where falsifications kept falling down the line. In many instances this daisy-chain was repeated multiple times for the same accounting item.

Quote:
The IG report also blamed DFAS, saying it too made unjustified changes to numbers. For example, two DFAS computer systems showed different values of supplies for missiles and ammunition, the report noted – but rather than solving the disparity, DFAS personnel inserted a false “correction” to make the numbers match.

DFAS also could not make accurate year-end Army financial statements because more than 16,000 financial data files had vanished from its computer system. Faulty computer programming and employees’ inability to detect the flaw were at fault, the IG said.

DFAS is studying the report “and has no comment at this time,” a spokesman said. We doubt anyone else will inquire into where potentially trillions in taxpayer funds have disappeared to; meanwhile the two presidential candidates battle it out on the topic of tax rates when the real problem facing America is not how much money it draws in - after all the Fed can and will simply monetize the deficit - but how it spends it. Sadly, we may never know.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/22/16 12:46 PM

Deutsche bank prepares for bankruptcy
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...for-bankruptcy/
Aug 17, 2016
by Steven Jones

Quote:
As we approach the eighth anniversary of the collapse of Lehman Brothers (September 9-15, 2008), we are now likely to see a repeat performance in 2016, this time in Europe.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/7006...r-bail-out-grow

Quote:
GERMANY'S largest bank has ADMITTED it is in "financial repression mode" as it desperately scrambles to implement financial buffers to prevent collapse.

The news comes as it was revealed the bank's profits dropped by 98 per cent last month and its share price reached lows not seen since before 2002.

Now Dominic Konstam, Deutsche Bank's global head of interest rates research, has issued a report that warned a "collapse in risk assets" could cause "panic"….

In July the bank's CEO John Cryan says the bank is preparing for restructuring amid concerns with its assets.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/22/16 09:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Not only do I believe the Papacy is part of the Babylon elites, I believe the Papacy leads the Babylon elites!

Who is on the top that leads the Elites has been kept secretive, deceptive, and confusing since the beginning of their rulership for "Mystery[secret] Babylon" has long made sure it was not an easy task to figure it out. Their power lied in the fact their existence was kept secret so to better control the world.

That's why we need to go back to historical sources and testimonies of those in those days that first handed came in dealing with them.

Actually the Jewish encyclopedia makes it clear who is on top. It is found in an article on the Rothschilds (in Vol. X), where it states :

Quote:
“It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.”


That quote above and others are found in Stephen Jones compilation & study :

Quote:
The Guardians of Papal Treasure
Jun 01, 2016

For four decades, as I studied the power structure of the modern beast, I noted that historians differed in their opinion as to who actually was in control of the present system. Most of these historians agree that the world is controlled by money and banking, but they did not agree on who controlled the big banks.

This question is vital to understanding the beast from the earth and his relationship with the beast from the sea. Revelation 13:12 says of the second beast,

12 And he exercises [or executes] all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed.

This is an unusual situation. The second beast “exercises all the authority of the first beast,” and yet “he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast.” In all previous cases where a beast has arisen, he has overthrown the previous beast and relegated him to the pages of history. Whenever we see something unusual, we must examine it more closely to find out why it is so.

The first thing we see is that the authority itself was indeed transferred from the first to the second beast. Yet in spite of this, we see a cooperation of some kind being set up, wherein the conquered beast, having been brought back to life, is allowed to be worshipped as in previous times. In other words, the second beast does not want to be worshipped, for that would necessitate being out in the open. This second beast prefers to remain hidden and to keep the previous beast in place as the visible object of worship.

The Mystery

Such an arrangement comes out clearly in later chapters, where “the great harlot” carries the name “Mystery Babylon.” The term mystery comes from musterion, which means secret or hidden. Hence, the transition of power from the first beast to the second is the point where the beast empires (going back to Babylon) went underground so that they might rule in secret. Its secretive nature is even suggested by the fact that it was kept secret from Daniel himself. Only John exposes it for us to see.

There seems to be no other compelling reason for God to keep the final beast hidden from Daniel, other than to illustrate its secretive nature. Furthermore, because the first beast continued to be worshipped even after receiving a fatal wound, that first beast visibly appeared to rule until the authority was transferred to the saints of the Most High.

Not understanding this has caused many researchers to believe that the Vatican continues to rule the earth by its control of Western law and all corporations based upon that law. It is also argued often that the Vatican controls the Federal Reserve. But Revelation 13:12 does not support such a belief. John tells us that a new beast arose after 1,260 years, which secretly took all the authority of the first beast, while leaving that first beast as a visible object of worship in the world. In other words, the financial beast from the earth rules over the religious beast from the sea (Holy See).

The Boast

Obviously, proof in the form of signed documents are in short supply, for such papers would defeat the whole purpose of this secret arrangement. Without such hard proof, we have only Scripture at our disposal, which we may believe or disbelieve. Nonetheless, there have always been a few in each generation in the top echelons of power who know of this arrangement. It is inevitable that pieces of information would be leaked, especially since it is the nature of carnal men to want to boast of their power.

And so we find such a boast, written tersely with no explanation, in The Jewish Encyclopedia itself. The key is found in an article on the Rothschilds (in Vol. X), where it is written,

Quote:
“It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.”


http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/12909-rothschild

In other words, the Rothschilds became the “guardians” of the Vatican’s wealth, holding the key to Rome’s money. When this arrangement began—or what it means to be a “guardian”—is not stated, but the context of the article above states that a Catholic bank, Union Générale, had been set up in 1876 as to compete with the Jewish Rothschild banks, hoping the Vatican would entrust them (instead of the Rothschilds) with their money. This Rothschild competitor apparently did not realize that the Vatican had lost control of its own finances at the time of the Holy Alliance and was therefore unable to entrust its money to a Catholic bank.

Was it by choice that the Roman church continued to utilize a Jewish bank rather than a Catholic bank? If the choice had been left to the Vatican, it seems logical that they would have entrusted their money to Catholics who respected the spiritual authority of the church. But the Vatican seemed to ignore the Catholic bank, and the Rothschilds retained control over the Vatican accounts. Why?

The key is in understanding what a guardian is. Black’s Law Dictionary defines a guardian as:

Quote:
“A guardian is a person lawfully invested with the power, and charged with the duty, of taking care of the person and managing the property and rights of another person who, for some peculiarity of status, or defect of age, understanding, or self-control, is considered incapable of administering his own affairs.”


A guardian is appointed to exercise authority over the financial affairs of a minor, or someone who is mentally impaired, or one who suffers from a lack of self-control. Control of the owner’s finances is entrusted to the guardian who has understanding. Recall that the Apostle Paul said in Galatians 4:1-3,

1 Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slave although he is the owner of everything, 2 but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by the father. 3 So also we, while we were children, were held in bondage under the elemental things of the world.

Children say that they own certain things, but their ownership is subject to the will of another and is therefore not absolute. So also was the Vatican subjected by the Holy Alliance in 1815 to certain terms by which they would be allowed to continue. The popes were legally declared children, minors, under the guardianship of others, and their “treasure,” not only money but property, buildings, art, etc. came under guardianship.

There is no doubt that the Jewish Encyclopedia used the term guardian as a precise legal term. It suggests that the Roman church had been allowed to survive its deadly wound only on condition that it turned over its property and finances to the Rothschilds as their legal guardians. Thus, the Vatican had to admit legally that it was incapable of administering its own affairs on account of its past excesses.

Doubtless, it was the powers of the Holy Alliance that discussed this issue, bringing up earlier fears of Jesuit power. It seems that they agreed to allow the Jesuit Order to be reinstated, along with the church itself, on condition that their money be spent with certain limitations at the approval of the Rothschilds, acting as agents of the world powers.

The Bankers of the Holy Alliance

The Rothschilds were the “bankers to the Holy Alliance,” as Niall Ferguson says in two statements on the same page in Vol. II, The House of Rothschild:

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“Thus by the end of 1822 the Rothschilds could justifiably be regarded as bankers to the Holy Alliance…” (p. 127)

“The final coup which completed the Rothschilds’ emergence as ‘bankers to the Holy Alliance’ came in 1822 with the loan to Russia.” (p. 127)

He was referring to the Rothschilds emerging as the main banker who gave loans to the big three nations of the day, showing the stature of this banking house by this time. It adds credence to the Rothschild’s appointment as “guardians of the papal treasure.”

Ferguson also quotes the sons of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, who recalled their father’s words:

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“Our late father taught us that if a high-placed person enters into [financial] partnership with a Jew, he belongs to the Jew” (The House of Rothschild, Vol. II, p. 77).

It is apparent, then, that the Rothschilds became the legal guardians of the Vatican in 1815 and that this became more apparent in 1822.

The Rothschilds and the Royals

The Rothschilds themselves were the guardians, but this did not mean that they held actual power over the Vatican—at least not at first. Their power increased over time, of course, and gradually they were able to use the power of money to assert their will upon monarchs and nations. Certainly, they would have remembered the words of the Rothschild patriarch, and they would have worked toward subjecting the monarchs by the power of mounting debt. But this took some time. Meanwhile, their loans made them business partners, but as debt piled up, the servants became the real masters.

Power continually shifted over the years, as nations (including the church) plotted daily to increase their own power at the expense of the others. In 1917 Russia was overthrown by Rothschilds and other banking interests. In 1929 the pope made an agreement with Mussolini, in which the papacy received about $85 million from the state of Italy as recompense for their loss of the Papal States in the 1860’s. This money was used to set up the Vatican Bank.

The question is whether or not the Vatican Bank obtained genuine independence from Rothschild guardianship, once it seemed to be able to manage its own finances. The Vatican Bank became a major money laundering bank, not only for fleeing war criminals after World War II, but throughout the decades afterward. I do not know if these activities were done with the approval of the Rothschild banks or not, but the recent attempts by Pope Francis to clean up the banks has run into huge internal roadblocks within the Vatican itself.

Regardless of the changing situation over the past two centuries, if the Rothschild banks were appointed guardians over the financial affairs of the Vatican, it means the earth beast retained control over the sea beast in the background. Yet it is important to recognize that the Rothschilds in 1815 were appointed by the big three powers after the fall of Napoleon: Russia, Germany, and Austria. The Rothschilds did not dictate the terms, but positioned themselves to be entrusted with this guardianship.

Much of this arrangement has surely changed by now, as no such agreement can survive the ever-changing power shifts in history. But while such changes may be interesting, they are not fully relevant to the details established in Revelation 13. John saw only a brief outline and gave us only a short description of this final beast. The most important factor, however, is that the second beast was allied with the first beast while itself remaining secretive, allowing the first beast to remain to be openly worshiped as in previous centuries.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/01/16 04:09 AM

My comment: If this article is correct, we should see some type of Russian action this coming September. Whether this comes or not, the article below is a good summary of the US-Russia dispute over Ukraine and Syria. It also gives a good report of the Turkey involvement and current situation of sendings troops in Syria when uninvited.

Russia Update: Now Mobilization of 300,000 TROOPS! ! !
http://boinnk.nl/121177/rusland-mobiliseert/

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Post by Newsroom
– Aug 30, 2016



On Monday, August 29, we reported that Russia had mobilized Reserve Army Troops for the first time since the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia. Today, Tuesday August 30, we have found that the total mobilization is actually 80 mobilization brigades. About 10 tank brigades, 30 motor rifle brigades, 20 artillery and 20 other support brigades. So about 300,000 men. Our original story appears HERE.

SuperStation95 has reached out to our contacts in the Pentagon, The Intelligence Community and the State Department and the answers we’re getting are very serious.

According to the Pentagon, there has never been a mobilization like this in Russia before. The shear size of it is described by seasoned Pentagon officials as “staggering!” According to two separate sources in the Intelligence Community, various intel sources indicate the Russians intend to take action – but they are not certain if that action will be in Ukraine, Syria or . . . Turkey. The fear is that the size of this mobilization may mean “all of the above.”

Our source in the Pentagon put it this way:

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Russia has also mobilized divisions of the National Guard, and the NAF is mobilizing its reserves to go from 35,000 men to 95,000.
Russia has assured this will be a coalition war by sending its CSTO allies to the Belarussian-Polish border. So that includes units from Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.
When you count it all up, Russia and allies now have something like half a million men on alert opposite Ukraine, the Baltics and Poland.
I’ve never seen anything like it.


Let’s recap a little as to how things got so bad.

In Ukraine, the lawfully and democratically elected President, Yanukovich, was overthrown after tens of thousands of Ukraine citizens protested – often violently – for months. It turned out that it was the United States and its NATO allies who bankrolled the protesters, to the tune of five Billion dollars! This was proven when Russian intelligence tapped a phone call between Deputy Secretary of State Gloria Nuland and her staff in the US State Department. Recordings of that conversation were made public by Russia and contained the infamous comment by Nuland “Fuck Europe.”

The reason the US and NATO bankrolled the overthrow of the Ukrainian government was due to the fact that Yanukovich was aligned with Moscow. The US and NATO wanted Ukraine to be more aligned with the West, but Yanukovich wouldn’t budge. So the US and NATO bankrolled protests and ultimately, Yanukovich had to flee for his life into Russia. That allowed the US and NATO to set up a puppet government in Ukraine’s capital, Kiev, which is now favorable to the west.

When the former Soviet Union disintegrated in 1991, Russia sought — and was given — a guarantee by the US: NATO would “not move even one inch east” toward Russia. That promise, by then Secretary of State James Baker, turned out to be totally false. In a short time span, the former Soviet states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania applied for membership in NATO and it was granted. Next came Poland and Romania. Granted.

Left in all this change was Ukraine . . . until the west moved to overthrow that government.

This overthrow was intolerable by the Russians. For years, Moscow watched as NATO not only moved one-inch further east, but made giant leaps and was now positioning troops and armor along Russia’s western Border. When the Ukraine government was overthrown, Russia took action.

They began by moving about twenty thousand troops to their Black Sea Naval Fleet base in southern Ukraine; a peninsula called Crimea. Within days, those troops moved out into Crimea and annexed the peninsula. They claimed that Crimea was once part of Russia — it was — but was given to Ukraine by Kruschev. They also claimed that ethnic Russians inside Crimea were being discriminated against by Kiev and they wanted to return to being part of Russia. A Referendum was held and more than 80% of the voters in Crimea voted to return to Russia.

The US and NATO countries claimed the referendum was fraught with fraud and will not recognize the movement of Crimea back into Russia. The US and NATO imposed economic sanctions upon Russia until Crimea is given back to Ukraine. Russia has made clear, Crimea is now a permanent part of Russia and it is not going anywhere.

After Crimea was annexed, Ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine, near Donbas and Luhansk, reported they were being “ethnically cleansed” by the Kiev government. They called to Russia for help. Shortly thereafter, “little green men” in brand new, UNMARKED army uniforms, armed with state of the art weapons systems including tanks, missile launchers and the like, began appearing in eastern Ukraine and forcing the Ukraine authorities OUT. Thus began a proxy war in eastern Ukraine between Russia and Ukraine/US/NATO. But the US and NATO have to move cautiously because Ukraine is NOT a member of NATO.

The Ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine have made great strides and fighting in that part of Ukraine tends to be fierce. The fighting has now gone on for a couple years, and given developments around the world, it appears that this fight will be brought to a violent conclusion by a massive Russian invasion.

Intel analysts believe the invasion will take place in September, after the G-20 Summit in China. They also know that the Russians can move with so much power, so many troops and so much armor, that Ukraine would fall within days . . . with NATO utterly powerless to do anything about it.

In the interim, Syria has been faced with US (and NATO) backed “rebels” trying to overthrow its democraticallyelected President, Bashar Assad. The trouble began with a memo written by then-Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, who wrote that Assad needed to be overthrown “to help Israel.” In fact, it was Assad’s refusal to allow a gas pipeline from Qatar to traverse Syria to supply Europe with natural gas, that actually caused the trouble.

Syria is — and has always been — an ally of Russia. Europe does not like being so dependent upon Russian gas supplies, so the Arabs in Qatar agreed to run a huge gas pipeline from Qatar through several countries, including Syria, then on to Europe. But Assad in Syria knew this would harm Russia, so he refused the pipeline. That’s when a whole slew of “Friends of Syria” started calling Assad a “brutal dictator” and alsobegan arming “rebels” to overthrow him.

When things got bad for Syria, Assad pleaded with Russia for military assistance, and Russia agreed. The Russians made incredible strikes throughout Syria, clobbering both ISIS Terrorists and US-Backed Rebels. This did not sit well with US and NATO ally, Turkey, which was caught accepting stolen oil from ISIS, and supplying ISIS with weapons to overthrow Assad! So Turkey asked Russia to stop attacking the rebels and Russia refused. Turkey then shot down a Russian Fighter jet. Big mistake.

Turkey then made moves to get back into the good graces of Russia, which lead to an alleged Military Coupattempt to overthrow Turkish President Erdogan. The Turkish president was quick to blame the United States for the attempted Coup and relations between the US and Turkey got so bad, so fast, that the US had to remove its 50-80 nuclear weapons from Turkey’s Incirlik air base because the US no longer trusts Turkey.

Throughout these affairs, Turkey has pushed to introduce its ground troops into Syria under the guise of “fighting ISIS.” But since everyone now knows that ISIS is pals with Turkey, and that Turkey supports ISIS, it is clear to everyone who pays attention, that Turkey’s real goal is to assist ISIS and overthrow Bashar Assad of Syria to get the Qatar pipeline built.

Prior to Turkey sending in its troops, both the Syrian and Russian governments announced to the entire world “If any foreign troops enter Syria without the permission of the Syrian government, those troops will be attacked.” Turkey has now flatly ignored that warning and sent troops and tanks into northern Syria.

According to a source in the US State Department, negotiations between the US and Russia for resolution of “the Syria problem” have failed. With no Diplomatic solution in sight, the State Department is terrified that Russia is going to settle the Syria problem by force . . . by attacking and destroying the remaining Rebels (and ISIS) and by totally smashing the Turksh Army units inside Syria.

Turkey is a member of NATO and would likely try to invoke the NATO defense Treaty if their troops were attacked. But Turkey won;t be able to invoke that Treaty because Turkish troops illegally entered Syria! So it look as though Turkey is going to be left swinging in the breeze by NATO as Russia comes in and stomps them out of Syria.

In order for Russia to accomplish operations in both Ukraine and Syria, they would need about . . . two hundred thousand to three hundred thousand men. Exactly the numbers they have just mobilized.

See where this is going? World War 3. After the G-20 Meeting in China, this September. Watch for it.

Suprised? The US mass-media is the ONLY mass-media worldwide which is NOT covering all these developments. Everyone else around the world knows things are coming to a fight; it’s just folks in the USA being kept ignorant. Must be the Obama “transparency” at work.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/06/16 09:28 PM

The failure of the Brzezinski Doctrine

Aug 27, 2016
by Stephen Jones
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The Brzezinski Doctrine, which has dominated US geopolitical policy since the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, is now being modified by its own originator. Brzezinski had previously pushed for US dominance in the world—essentially arguing the importance of maintaining a US Empire at the expense of Russia and China. But now he has now written a new article, essentially telling the world that US dominance is no longer feasible or possible.

For those unfamiliar with the Brzezinski Doctrine, set forth in his 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard," see my weblog from February 2015 here:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2015/02-2015/the-brink-of-war/

Brzezinski's new analysis tells us that the US government’s attempt to contain Russia and China has failed. They have risen in spite of America’s attempts to suppress them economically, isolate them politically, and surround them militarily. The kings of the east have risen, and now, says Brzezinski, the US needs to ally with one of them in order to maintain global stability. Perhaps he is signaling that the doctrine of confrontation is now being modified to one of cooperation and partnership, where the US government is willing to share the world stage as an equal partner, rather than as a dominant boss.

Brzezinski’s article, Toward a Global Realignment, was published on April 17, 2016.

http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/04/17/toward-a-global-realignment/

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“Five basic verities regarding the emerging redistribution of global political power and the violent political awakening in the Middle East are signaling the coming of a new global realignment.

“The first of these verities is that the United States is still the world’s politically, economically, and militarily most powerful entity but, given complex geopolitical shifts in regional balances, it is no longer the globally imperial power. But neither is any other major power.”


He tells us that after World War II, the USA emerged as the richest and most powerful nation on earth, and that when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, the USA became the only superpower on the earth.

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“The fact is that there has never been a truly ‘dominant’ global power until the emergence of America on the world scene. Imperial Great Britain came close to becoming one, but World War I and later World War II not only bankrupted it but also prompted the emergence of rival regional powers. The decisive new global reality was the appearance on the world scene of America as simultaneously the richest and militarily the most powerful player. During the latter part of the 20thcentury no other power even came close.

That era is now ending.


The purpose of his first thesis in the 1990’s was designed to show what the US had to do to maintain its global hegemony. But now, Brzezinski is admitting that the US failed to maintain its dominance. Russia and China have risen steadily, and the resistance they both felt from the US State Department has only served to push the two former enemies together. First they became economic partners, and now they are widening their friendship as military allies.

The US is stronger than either Russia or China separately, but a China-Russian alliance creates an entirely new superpower that demands US cooperation, not confrontation. Because “The United States… is no longer the globally imperial power,” Brzezinski sees “a new global realignment” coming.

This is truly a major shift in the world that reflects Bible prophecies regarding the fall of Babylon to a coalition of “the kings from the east” (Revelation 16:12). The main difference is that in ancient times these kings overthrowing Babylon were from Media and Persia, whereas today they are Russia and China, overthrowing Mystery Babylon.

Brzezinski continues, saying,

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“First, America can only be effective in dealing with the current Middle Eastern violence if it forges a coalition that involves, in varying degrees, also Russia and China.”


A “coalition” must be forged. Right now, a coalition already exists between Russia and China. Brzezinski is suggesting that if the US is to survive the new alignment, it will have to destroy that coalition by inserting itself into the equation. Either make peace with Russia or China and use this new coalition against the odd man out.

Lots of luck with that one, Mr. Brzezinski. The US government has already destroyed its credibility with both Russia and China, which is why they have forged their own defensive coalition. Now that the US has lost that round, it could seek a new coalition only from a position of weakness. Worse yet, it could only be, at best, a coalition of cooperating enemies, not of friends. Any such friendly vibes, even if accepted, would be met with cynicism and no love.

Brzezinski then summarizes the history of western colonialism and how it has resulted in hundreds of millions of deaths around the world. While the west forgets this quickly, the victims of colonialism remember and are now venting their long-suppress anger. This is threatening the global order, he says, and certainly, he is correct.

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“Given all this [history of colonialism, especially in the Mideast], a long and painful road toward an initially limited regional accommodation is the only viable option for the United States, Russia, China, and the pertinent Middle Eastern entities. For the United States, that will require patient persistence in forging cooperative relationships with some new partners (particularly Russia and China) as well as joint efforts with more established and historically rooted Muslim states (Turkey, Iran, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia if it can detach its foreign policy from Wahhabi extremism) in shaping a wider framework of regional stability. Our European allies, previously dominant in the region, can still be helpful in that regard.”


Brzezinski fails to tell his readers that US policy itself, as revealed by General Wesley Clark, has been to destabilize the Mideast by the “supporting democracy,” that is, funding and instigating the so-called “Arab Spring” movements that overthrow “dictators.” US policy has not supported stability at all, but has attempted to weaken the Mideast nations. It is the height of hypocrisy to make it look like the US has actually wanted stability and global security.

But now that the US has lost that battle, due mainly to Russian opposition in Syria, Brzezinski now sees the handwriting on the wall and is calling for “accommodation” with “new partners,” singling out Russia and China.

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“A constructive U.S. policy must be patiently guided by a long-range vision. It must seek outcomes that promote the gradual realization in Russia (probably post-Putin) that its only place as an influential world power is ultimately within Europe. China’s increasing role in the Middle East should reflect the reciprocal American and Chinese realization that a growing U.S.-PRC partnership in coping with the Middle Eastern crisis is an historically significant test of their ability to shape and enhance together wider global stability.”


Russia tried to become a European nation, but the US blocked this, treating Russia as a potential enemy, rather than welcoming it as a friendly addition to Europe. The US brought Eastern European nations into NATO, breaking its promise not to move NATO “one inch closer” to Russia in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union. It was finally the US sanctions which drove Russia to look eastward instead of westward. This is how Russia and China became best friends in the first place, causing this major failure in US policy to contain Russia economically and China militarily.

Now Brzezinski is lecturing Russia that “its only place as an influential world power is ultimately within Europe.” He fails to admit that this shift in the Brzezinski Doctrine is an admission of failed US foreign policy. Since the US government failed to isolate Russia, and in response, Russia made friends with China, now suddenly we are telling Russia that they ought to become a European nation???

Brzezinski ought to be lecturing the US government to allow Russia into Europe. But instead, the sanctions continue, which hurts Europe as much as Russia! Brzezinski ought to be lecturing the US government to end the Ukrainian coup, instead of using it as an excuse to sanction Russia.

Brzezinski ends his article by concluding,

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"Since the next twenty years may well be the last phase of the more traditional and familiar political alignments with which we have grown comfortable, the response needs to be shaped now. During the rest of this century, humanity will also have to be increasingly preoccupied with survival as such on account of a confluence of environmental challenges. Those challenges can only be addressed responsibly and effectively in a setting of increased international accommodation. And that accommodation has to be based on a strategic vision that recognizes the urgent need for a new geopolitical framework."


The “new geopolitical framework” that is urgently needed is different from the one he advocated in the 1990’s and which has shaped US foreign policy. The old policy of confrontation and containment has failed. A new policy of “accommodation” is now the only feasible alternative, given the new political realities.

It is good to know that Brzezinski has changed his tune. We can only hope that his influence is just as strong as it was in the 1990’s, and that the US government will take heed. While Brzezinski’s motives are less than stellar, his decision to abandon his previous thesis is commendable. If he had known 20 years ago that the US government would fail to achieve world hegemony and to contain Russia and China, perhaps he would have made friends with them while they were yet weak and thereby establish warm and friendly relations with them, which would pay dividends in the century to come.

Even so, you know when a doctrine has failed when its own author repudiates it.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/07/16 04:57 PM

Breaking News: Next Blood Moon Sep 16th, 2016! Proof Tetrad is now Hexad!

My Comment : We are approaching the Fall Feasts. This year the Karaite Jews who inspect the Barley Crop in Jerusalem, declare a "leap year" for no Barley were found ready on the 12th Month; so they added a 13th month called adar.

Whereas most other Jews rely on a calculated method. Thus we find many different feasts calendars and often two or three sets of Fall feasts dates.

A. According to the Calculated Calendar method, the 2016 fall feasts dates are the following :

1st day of the 7th Month -- Sept 3rd -- Feast of Trumpet
10th day ..................--Sept 12 -- Day of Atonement
15th day ..................-- Sept 17th -- 1st day of Tabernacle
22nd day ..................-- Sept 24th -- 8th day of Tabernacle

B. According to the Karaite barley observation method, the 2016 fall feasts dates are the following :

1st day of the 7th Month -- Oct 3rd -- Feast of Trumpet
10th day ..................--Oct 12 -- Day of Atonement
15th day ..................-- Oct 17th -- 1st day of Tabernacle
22nd day ..................-- Oct 24th -- 8th day of Tabernacle

These two Feasts calendars (A & B) are exactly one month apart to the day. What's interesting is on the September Feast Calendar (A) there will be not only a tetrad sequence of signs (solar & lunar eclipse) but a hexad, and even an octad, and a nonad depending on what you include in the count.

This guy explains it very nicely :

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/09/16 12:24 AM

Hmmm.
September has 30 days.
The moon cycle is 29.5 days.
Should you be amazed that from September to October is pretty close to 29.5 days apart?
(Just more hexing on the part of tetrad hexers)

We never had a tetrad, so how can it be a hexad?

Please explain. Summarize it; I don't feel like watching your video.
What constitutes a blood moon? Where should it be visible, that is, what location is important to "count"? Should it be 100% occluded, of which the past sequence was not.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/09/16 01:08 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
We never had a tetrad, so how can it be a hexad?

Oh we didn't had an tetrad in 2014-2015? because they weren't full enough? or Red enough for you to consider them as an eclipse? No where in the Bible does it specify that these lunar eclipse needs to be full or to a certain degree "blood red". "Sun turning to darkness" and "Moon into blood" are Jewish idioms that means solar and lunar eclipse. Partial or full, these are still lunar or solar eclipse that constitute "signs in the skies".

At the time of Jesus crucifixion, we had 2 full lunar eclipse(32 AD) and 2 partial lunar eclipse(33 AD) on feasts dates. Despite the partial lunar eclipse, Peter still quoted Joel 2:13-21 on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:19-21 to refer to the signs in the skies that everyone had seen. To me this shows that the Lord accounted for partial lunar eclipse for Jesus -- unless you think that Peter was full of prunes(and not of the Holy Spirit) and Acts 2:19-21 should be removed.

Originally Posted By: kland
Please explain. Summarize it; I don't feel like watching your video.
I think the video freeze point is a good summary.

Originally Posted By: kland
What constitutes a blood moon? Where should it be visible, that is, what location is important to "count"? Should it be 100% occluded, of which the past sequence was not.
Act 2:19-21

To me 9 signs in the skies on feasts days these past few consecutives years....is quite significant. More significant than at the time of Jesus crucifixion because simply there's more.

All we can do is watch and see what the Lord will do this year and the next. If it's not significant....then we can say these numerous signs in the skies has no meaning and weren't real signs.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/09/16 01:28 PM

My comment: I think we are going to see more of this type of "revelation" concerning Banks and central Banks as they are collapsing due to fraud, corruption, theft, and insolvencies.

Wells Fargo Fires 5,300 For Engaging In Massive Fraud, Creating Over 2 Million Fake Accounts
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-08...n-fake-accounts
Sept 9, 2016
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For years we have wondered why Wells Fargo, America's largest mortgage lender, is also Warren Buffett's favorite bank. Now we know why.

On Thursday, Wells Fargo was fined $185 million, (including a $100 million penalty from the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the largest penalty the agency has ever issued) for engaging in pervasive fraud over the years which included opening credit cards secretly without a customer’s consent, creating fake email accounts to sign up customers for online banking services, and forcing customers to accumulate late fees on accounts they never even knew they had. Regulators said such illegal sales practices had been going on since at least 2011.

In all, Wells opened 1.5 million bank accounts and "applied" for 565,000 credit cards that were not authorized by their customers.

Wells Fargo told to CNN that it had fired 5,300 employees related to the shady behavior over the last few years. The firings represent about 1% of its workforce and took place over several years. The fired workers went to far as to create phony PIN numbers and fake email addresses to enroll customers in online banking services, the CFPB said.

How Wells perpetrated fraud is that its employees moved funds from customers' existing accounts into newly-created accounts without their knowledge or consent, regulators say. The CFPB described this practice as "widespread" and led to customers being charged for insufficient funds or overdraft fees, because the money was not in their original accounts. Additionally, Wells Fargo employees also submitted applications for 565,443 credit card accounts without their knowledge or consent, the CFPB said the analysis found. Many customers who had unauthorized credit cards opened in their names were hit by annual fees, interest charges and other fees.

According to the NYT, regulators said the bank’s employees had been motivated to open the unauthorized accounts by compensation policies that rewarded them for drumming up new business. Many current and former Wells employees told regulators they had felt extreme pressure to expand the number of new accounts at the bank.

And, since it is US government policy never to send a banker to prison, they thought that engaging in criminal behavior was not such a bad idea.

Federal banking regulators said the practices reflected serious flaws in the internal culture and oversight at Wells Fargo, one of the nation’s largest banks.

"Today's action should serve notice to the entire industry that financial incentive programs, if not monitored carefully, carry serious risks that can have serious legal consequences," said CFPB Director Richard Cordray. He added that “unchecked incentives can lead to serious consumer harm, and that is what happened here."

"Consumers must be able to trust their banks. They should never be taken advantage of," said Mike Feuer, the Los Angeles City Attorney who joined the settlement.

On its behalf Wells fargo issued a statement saying it “is committed to putting our customers’ interests first 100 percent of the time, and we regret and take responsibility for any instances where customers may have received a product that they did not request,” the bank said in a statement adding that "at Wells Fargo, when we make mistakes, we are open about it, we take responsibility, and we take action."

As the NYT puts it, "this is an ugly moment for Wells Fargo, one of the few large American banks that have managed to produce consistent profit increases since the financial crisis." Now we know one of the reasons why.

As CNN redundantly adds, "the scope of the scandal is shocking."

And since nobody will go to prison, in a few months we will read another such "shocking scandal" perpetrated by another bailed-out bank.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/22/16 06:15 PM

My comment : On Sept 17 & 19 the US attacked the Syrian troops killing 62 soldiers and on Sept 19 someone(suspecting that the US is behind it) attacked a UN convoy to aid the Syrians. These attacks broke seriously the cease-fire agreement that was recently re-establish??? Every action has a reaction.... I wonder how this will be handle by Russia and China and their allied nations.

Below is a link to KP's blog that brings important quotes forth 3 articles about this.

THE USA CORP bombing things, violating cease-fires, violating treaties, and (apparently) committing all sorts of ‘holy nonsense’ (small h, large C) in Syria

Sept 20th 2016

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2016/09...rge-c-in-syria/

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Just a small sampling from the multitude of articles I’m sure are out there. The USA CORP military industrial complex is indeed being called out all over the place. This follows a prior Kp blog post about Syria.

Russia to Samantha Power: We ain’t got time for political whores—go away (Jonas Alexis, VT, 9-18-16)

“The violation was indeed an act of war, but neither Russia nor the Syrian government responded through retaliation but through diplomatic solutions. Russian officials asked for a UN Security Council meeting in order to solve the issue in a peaceful manner. That indeed is a rational position.

“But how did New World Order agents respond? Well, [United States UN ambassador] Samantha Power has the answer. Russia’s move, says Power, is a “magician’s trick” and “a stunt.” More importantly, continues Power, the Syrian government is exclusively responsible for the death of the servicemen and civilians… [she said] the Russians were trying to score ‘cheap points’ by making so much of the US killing scores of Syrian soldiers who were defending the Deir Ezzor airport from ISIS…

“People like Power obviously prove that the Ayatollah Khomeini was right on target when he launched the term “the Great Satan” to describe the Zionist State of America.”

‘Take a trip to Syria to see what “embarrassed” means’: Russia’s Zakharova to US’ Power (RT 9-18-16)

“In response to Power’s accusations, Maria Zakharova wrote on Facebook: “Dear Samantha Power, in order to know the meaning of the word “embarrassed,” I highly encourage you to travel to Syria and talk to the people there for yourself… I’m referring to the actual people that continue to live there in spite of the bloody experiment that has been waged on their homeland for over six years, with active participation by Washington.”

““Let’s go there together,” she said, promising she would shoulder the expenses of Power’s Syria trip. “Do say yes. Don’t be frightened. Nobody will lay a finger on you in my presence. Unless, of course, your guys don’t again ‘mistakenly’ strike the wrong target.

“[Vitaly Churkin] “The beginning of work of the Joint Implementation Group was supposed to be September 19. So if the US wanted to conduct an effective strike on Al-Nusra or ISIS, in Deir ez-Zor or anywhere else, they could wait two more days and coordinate with our military and be sure that they are striking the right people. Instead they chose to conduct this reckless operation,”…”

Press TV: Interview with Gordon Duff… th...in Dayr al-Zawr (Gordon Duff VT 9-20-16; interview and transcript)

“I believe it’s all been theater. But I think it began with the setup by forces within the US. This is one of the things that hasn’t even been looked at. But the real loser here is Russia and I believe this is initially a US attempt to interfere in the parliamentary elections in Russia.

“There are no accidental bombings by the US. The lines at Dayr al-Zawr, where the bombing occurred and where 83 Syrian army were killed, have been within 100 meters since 2015. They’ve been very standardized. The US and Britain bombed clearly long-established lines, using guided munitions, satellite surveillance and drone surveillance. They had a full surveillance package on this.

“This was very much a planned attack. To the US, ISIS [Daesh] is a small player. The US is here to destabilize Russia. Syria is the tool the US is using. This is how I see it.

“While the bombing was still going on, I received calls from two Syrian ministers. [They] called me and asked me what was going on and if the United States had lost their minds?… The US has shown a willingness to sacrifice any credibility of any kind.”

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/22/16 08:38 PM

My comment : 2 banks are currently in the news for needing a bailout and another is under investigation for major corruption.

According to Jim Willie, after the 2008 Lehmen Brothers collapse all Western Banks has made an oath to stay together as a unit so that it would be more difficult for anyone one single bank to collapse. This agreement did allow them to survive longer in these current economic turmoils however this agreement will bring everyone down when any single of the allied banks collapse. So having 2 major banks needing a bailout might be the time indication that something major is about to happen.

Monte Paschi Rescue On The Rocks: Regulators Now "Expect Bank To Ask Italy For Bailout
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-22...k-italy-bailout
Sep 22, 2016

"Deutsche Bank May Ultimately Need A State Bailout" - Handelsblatt
Sep 21, 2016
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-21...ut-handelsblatt

In Dramatic Twist, Wells Fargo Said To Retaliate, Fire Whistleblowers Who Exposed Bank's Illegal Practices

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-22...osed-banks-ille
by Tyler Durden
Sep 22, 2016
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/23/16 05:26 PM

My comment : A debt Jubilee has been brought up in the news more and more for the past 5 years. Now it's coming from the top -- the UN Economists are predicting it.

UN Economists predict greatest debt jubilee in history

http://www.trunews.com/article/un-econom...h.x3XBUBaY.dpuf

September 22, 2016
Quote:
Economists at the United Nations are predicting the greatest debt jubilee in history.

Prediction:

  • The third leg of the world's intractable depression is yet to come.
  • If trade economists at the United Nations are right, the next traumatic episode may entail the greatest debt jubilee in history.
  • May also prove to be the definitive crisis of globalized capitalism, the demise of the liberal free-market orthodoxies promoted for almost forty years by the Bretton Woods institutions, the OECD, and the Davos fraternity.
  • UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) annual report: ”Alarm bells have been ringing over the explosion of corporate debt levels in emerging economies, which now exceed $25 trillion. Damaging deflationary spirals cannot be ruled out.”
  • "If the global economy were to slow down more sharply, a significant share of developing-country debt incurred since 2008 could become unpayable and exert considerable pressure on the financial system.”
  • "There remains a risk of deflationary spirals in which capital flight, currency devaluations and collapsing asset prices would stymie growth and shrink government revenues. As capital begins to flow out, there is now a real danger of entering a third phase of the financial crisis which began in the US housing market in late 2007 before spreading to the European bond market.”
  • These are deeply-disturbing assertions. The combined US subprime and 'Alt-A' property exposure before the Lehman crisis was just $2 trillion, and Greece's debts were trivial. What UNCTAD is talking about is an order of magnitude larger.
  • Its prescription is radical. The world must jettison neo-liberal ideology, and launch a "global new deal" with a blitz of investment on strategic sectors. It wants a return of the "developmental state", commanding a potent industrial policy, and backed by severe controls on capital flows.
  • The UN's advice to the emerging nations is to retake control of their destiny and turn the tables on the financial elites. They should impose capital controls, preferential tax treatment for retained earnings, and force fund managers to hold assets for longer. They should allocate credit without apology, and learn a trick or two from the Korea's methods of "financial repression".
  • What is clear is that world will soon need a massive and coordinated spending push by governments to create demand and bring the broken global system back into equilibrium.


(VERO BEACH, FL) In 2008, TRUNEWS host Rick Wiles predicted that there would be a global debt jubilee in response to the global economic crisis which accelerated that year.

The UNCTAD annual report indicates that the globalists have conceded this to be a very real possibility.

Key Quotes from UNCTAD annual report:


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“The world economy in 2016 is in a fragile state. Neither financial bubbles nor export surges offer a sustainable solution to the tepid growth and weak labour market conditions.”

“There is no sign of a concerted move towards policy coordination among systemically important economies…a more ambitious policy package is needed to address existing imbalances and ease the constraints on faster growth, whether in large or small countries, surplus or deficit economies, commodity or manufacturing exporters, creditors or debtors. A global new deal will need to move beyond business as usual.”


Here's another link article about this prediction with Stephen Jones comment about it.

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/09-2016/the-coming-debt-jubilee/

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I found this article very interesting, because it is another indication how the term “Jubilee” is now becoming more mainstream than ever. This is an article from the Business Section of the UK’s The Telegraph.

Quote:
“The third leg of the world's intractable depression is yet to come. If trade economists at the United Nations are right, the next traumatic episode may entail the greatest debt jubilee in history.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016...with-epic-debt/

The timing of this admission comes as we approach the 20th anniversary of our Jubilee declaration on September 23, 1996. This week I have been receiving other indicators that this 20-year cycle is noteworthy.

Since September 23, 1996 was the Day of Atonement in that year, it may be that we should also watch this year’s Day of Atonement, which is said to be October 12, 2016.

I believe that at some point, there will indeed be a debt jubilee, not because the politicians and bankers want it, but because they will have no choice. This could well be the moment when the entire Babylonian financial structure collapses, and the world comes under new management under the kings of the east.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/23/16 07:22 PM

"They should allocate credit without apology, "

Is this meaning their recommendation to solve the greatest debt is creating debt with no restrictions?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/25/16 07:03 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
"They should allocate credit without apology, "

Is this meaning their recommendation to solve the greatest debt is creating debt with no restrictions?

I don't know what they fully mean. Here's the context where your quote is taken.
Quote:
The UN's advice to the emerging nations is to retake control of their destiny and turn the tables on the financial elites. They should impose capital controls, preferential tax treatment for retained earnings, and force fund managers to hold assets for longer. They should allocate credit without apology, and learn a trick or two from the Korea's methods of "financial repression".


So the UN are given advice to the emerging nations (China, Russia, India, Iran, etc...) "to take control of their destiny by turning the tables on the financial elites". The financial elites are this Mystery[Secret] Babylon's 1% elitist group responsible for wrecking the world's economy.

What should the "emerging nations" (China, Russia, India, ...) do :

a -"impose capital controls",
b -"preferential tax treatment for retained earnings"
c -"force fund managers to hold assets for longer".
d -"allocate credit without apology"
e - "and learn a trick or two from the Korea's methods of "financial repression"

I'm not an financial experts. But we do have prophesy and patterns laid by the Lord who has brought 2 Jubilee types in the past :

1. When Israel was freed from Egypt's unjust slavery control system. Egypt nearly got destroyed then. Israel and other nations were freed with the spoils of Egypt.

2. When Old Babylon got destroyed liberating the nation of Judah and other nations. The conquering Kings of the East financed the rebuilding of many nations cities and their temples. The restoration of Judah's Temple and Jerusalem were not the only nation that benefited from the Kings of the Easts Jubilee declaration and financial aid.

More details of these past 2 Jubilee types can be found in Post #181012 in the "Does anyone know how the economy works now?" discussion.

So perhaps your d quote "allocate credit without apology" means that the Kings of the East of today (The Chinese Royal families and other suppressed ancestral European Royal families in conjunction with their [restored] government) will allocate credit to the oppressed captive people to rebuild their countries, industries, businesses and Churches?

That's what I've been hearing that's the intend of the "emerging nations" via their informants for the past 5 years. This intent is the same as Cyrus had after the destruction of Old Babylon. So I see this as what is coming again according to the pattern the Lord laid with the fall of old Babylon.

When you think of it, they (the Kings of the Easts) needs to jumpstart back to life a completely dead economy. A Jubilee is really the only choice & solution available.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/26/16 05:29 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
"They should allocate credit without apology, "

Is this meaning their recommendation to solve the greatest debt is creating debt with no restrictions?


Well, in an almost debt only economy there isn't any other option available. Except create cash!

What other function exists to reduce the debt?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/29/16 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Originally Posted By: kland
"They should allocate credit without apology, "

Is this meaning their recommendation to solve the greatest debt is creating debt with no restrictions?


Well, in an almost debt only economy there isn't any other option available. Except create cash!

What other function exists to reduce the debt?
Are you asking what other function exists to reduce the debt other than creating more debt?

Or do you not understand what I'm asking? The problem was "the greatest debt". To get rid of debt is not to create more debt. Or do you think the solution to the problem of the greatest debt is just not so great debt? But how did it become "the greatest debt" other than being not so great right before that point?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/29/16 04:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
That's what I've been hearing that's the intend of the "emerging nations" via their informants for the past 5 years. This intent is the same as Cyrus had after the destruction of Old Babylon. So I see this as what is coming again according to the pattern the Lord laid with the fall of old Babylon.

When you think of it, they (the Kings of the Easts) needs to jumpstart back to life a completely dead economy. A Jubilee is really the only choice & solution available.
But I find in Cyrus nor any other Biblical instance was there any solution of causing Israel to have debt. "Jubilee" is no debt. The rebuilding was given as a gift. Not debt.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/29/16 08:44 PM

My comment : It would be nice!

Is the death of Peres a sign?

Sep 28, 2016
by Stephen Jones

Quote:
Israeli statesman, Shimon Peres, a terrorist in the 1940’s who turned peacemaker in 1993, died today at the age of 93. Here is the news report:

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/09/28/how-shimon-peres-shaped-the-history-of-israel.html

When he became a peacemaker, he was suddenly opposed, often violently, by the war parties in Israeli politics. When he put together a peace treaty with PLO president Yassir Arafat that was signed on September 13, 1993, Christian prophecy teachers proclaimed that this was the start of the Great Tribulation, essentially implying that Peres was the Antichrist for daring to make peace.

Well, the seven years ended in September of 2000, and those same teachers now hope no one will remember what they said. They have instead moved on to other potential antichrists and new dates for the Tribulation.

The article says that Peres means “songbird” in Hebrew, but there is also no mistaking the connection with the final word in the handwriting on the wall in Daniel 5:28.

Last June 11 we saw the Mina, Mina sign, followed by the Tekel sign. I wrote about it here:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/06-2016/mina-mina-in-orlando/

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The chief of police in Orlando is John Mina.

http://www.cityoforlando.net/police/chief-police/

One of the gay victims in the Pulse nightclub was Eddie, the son of Mina Justice. He texted his mother during the attack just before he was killed.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/...shooting-terror

A mother of a man killed in the Orlando shootings has revealed her anguish after receiving terrified texts from her son telling her that he was being held hostage in the club’s bathroom.

Mina Justice was sound asleep when she received the first text from her son, Eddie Justice, who was in the gay nightclub Pulse when a gunman opened fire, leaving 50 dead and more than 50 wounded.

What are the odds of seeing Mina, Mina in this news account? Is this a sign that we are on the eve of Babylon’s collapse, as per Daniel 5:25? The biblical term MENE is the Aramaic version of the Hebrew MINA. They both mean “Numbered, or Audited.” The prophecy was that Babylon’s accounts had been “audited” and then found to be bankrupt.

So I take this as a sign of Babylon’s impending collapse.

A few days later, on June 15, I wrote about the TEKEL sign here:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/06-2016/the-tekel-sign/

Quote:
First we saw the Mina, Mina sign at the time of the Orlando shooting. Justice Mina was the mother of one of the victims, and Police Chief Mina is a Justice of the Peace. I explained this “Mina” sign here:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/06-2016/mina-mina-in-orlando/

Now we see “Tekel banknotes” at the Dundee Design Festival.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/loc...esign-festival/

Perhaps we should watch for the third sign: Peretz, Peres, upharsin (the plural form), or even Paris? (See Daniel 5:25-28.)


Are we seeing the handwriting on the wall for Mystery Babylon? Is Justice coming?

Now, with the death of Peres, we are seeing the PERES sign, which is the last. Daniel 5:28 says “PERES—your kingdom (Babylon) has been divided and given over to the Medes and Persians.”

It will be interesting to see how soon it takes for Babylon to fall apart. October 1 is the end of the fiscal year and is always an important date to watch. So perhaps the death of Peres will give meaning to October 1st, if not earlier.

Keep in mind that this prophetic year began November 13, 2015, the day that Paris was attacked. This entire year seems to have the Paris or Peres label.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/30/16 05:30 PM

So many people looking at oil-slicks in teacups.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/01/16 01:13 AM

News from the Syrian battlefront
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/09-2016/news-from-the-syrian-battlefront/

Sep 30, 2016


Quote:
The US government decided in 2002 to destabilize the Mideast by overthrowing seven countries in five years. This has been reported by General Wesley Clark for more than a decade. Syria was one of those countries slated to be destabilized and broken up into smaller entities ruled by various warlords.

Russia, however, has stood in the way of US ambitions to destroy Syria. This has led us into a very dangerous situation now. The latest ceasefire fell apart when the US covertly bombed the UN aid convoy in order to blame Russia and have an excuse to continue their aid to al Nusra (an al-qaeda group). The US know that the longer they can prolong the Syrian civil war, the more the nation will be destroyed, regardless of who wins in the end.

The US claims that its goal is simply to replace Assad as president of Syria. Their real goal, however, is destabilization, not regime change—unless one defines regime change as replacing the single government with splintering Syria into multiple pieces. We have now reached the place where Russia knows the US is determined to do whatever it takes to arm the opposition and to extend the war indefinitely. So the war of words has reached a point not seen since 1985.

Here is a good 11-minute news video of the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=em-u&v=OJZRvp6w4wc&app=desktop
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/03/16 11:15 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Originally Posted By: kland
"They should allocate credit without apology, "

Is this meaning their recommendation to solve the greatest debt is creating debt with no restrictions?


Well, in an almost debt only economy there isn't any other option available. Except create cash!

What other function exists to reduce the debt?
Are you asking what other function exists to reduce the debt other than creating more debt?

Or do you not understand what I'm asking? The problem was "the greatest debt". To get rid of debt is not to create more debt. Or do you think the solution to the problem of the greatest debt is just not so great debt? But how did it become "the greatest debt" other than being not so great right before that point?


What!?!

The reason I propose cash is because debt is not the answer. We need more cash and less debt.

Preferably, cash without any debt or interest attached to it.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/03/16 05:41 PM

"They should allocate credit without apology, "

Is what I've been referring to.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/04/16 11:53 PM

Babylon.

Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

Re 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Re 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Elle, The great whore, the woman, has Babylon written on her forehead. Elsewhere in Revelation, a woman represents the church, a religious entity.

How does a banking system fit in with that?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/07/16 03:37 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Babylon.

Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

Re 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Re 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Elle, The great whore, the woman, has Babylon written on her forehead. Elsewhere in Revelation, a woman represents the church, a religious entity.

How does a banking system fit in with that?

The Rothschild (creator of the current Banking system) and Loyola (creator of the Jesuit order) are both Jewish. Do a simple google search. This is fact.

I don't have time to bring some historical quotes from these two entities who were both involve to inflict the 1798 fatal deadly wound to the 1st beast of Revelation 13 (RCC).

Shortly after the deadly wound, the RCC was resuscitated back to life for they needed a pope to do public recognized religious ceremonies like crowning Napolean as emperor in 1804. The papacy was reinstated officially via the Holy Alliance in 1815. Read about the Holy Alliance and you will find the Rothschild involved in it.

History shows how the Lord has fulfilled prophecies by these events in removing the dominance of the 1st beast and giving it to the 2nd beast of Rev 13.

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Re 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.


Notice in the text above, the woman (==Mystery Babylon -- the 2nd beast of Rev 13) is siting on and riding a scarlet colored beast (==RCC-- the 1st beast of Rev 13).

The 1st beast of Rev 13 is not in control; but the one that is riding it who is. That's how I see the Banking Beast System fitting in this picture.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/07/16 06:25 PM

Ignoring the woman vs. the beast, just because a beast creates something doesn't mean that something is Babylon. And there are many Jewish people involved in many things, so don't know what that semitism was about. If a Jesuit manufactures a car, does that make the car Babylon?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/07/16 07:59 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Ignoring the woman vs. the beast, just because a beast creates something doesn't mean that something is Babylon.

My understanding is : Beast #1 did NOT CREATE Beast #2.

Beast #2(Mystery[Secret] Babylon) conquered Beast #1(RCC) with a deadly wound and re- instated Beast #1(RCC) into postition like prophesy and history reveals.

You're Biblical interpretation of Beast #1 created Beast #2 doesn't match the Biblical description and historical events.

Quote:

Kland: Elle, The great whore, the woman, has Babylon written on her forehead. Elsewhere in Revelation, a woman represents the church, a religious entity.

How does a banking system fit in with that?

Elle : The Rothschild (creator of the current Banking system) and Loyola (creator of the Jesuit order) are both Jewish. Do a simple google search. This is fact.

...these two entities who were both involve to inflict the 1798 fatal deadly wound to the 1st beast of Revelation 13 (RCC).

...the RCC was resuscitated back to life for they needed a pope to do public recognized religious ceremonies like crowning Napolean as emperor in 1804. The papacy was reinstated officially via the Holy Alliance in 1815. Read about the Holy Alliance and you will find the Rothschild involved in it.

History shows how the Lord has fulfilled prophecies by these events in removing the dominance of the 1st beast and giving it to the 2nd beast of Rev 13.


Kland : And there are many Jewish people involved in many things, so don't know what that semitism was about. If a Jesuit manufactures a car, does that make the car Babylon?


Kland, I responded to your question highlighted above directly -- the Banking Elites that I view to be Mystery Babylon ARE A RELIGIOUS ENTITY....thus can be a HARLOT. I'm not saying that all Jews are Mystery Babylon. NO! The Banking Elites comes from some far back Jewish sect named Sabbatean-Frankist.

Also, something you don't have in your end-time interpretation is the Lord prophecies about Esau regaining the birthright when Jacob unlawfully stole the birthright and blessings from Esau by deceit. The Lord has to make this wrong Jacob did -- Right again by giving the birthright back to Esau who by law belongs to him but can loose it because of being disqualifies for not bringing forth the fruits of God's Kingdom on earth -- before giving the children of Jacob the Birthright at Jesus 2nd coming.

So the last Beast, Mystery Babylon, is fulfilling the prophecies of Esau and Judah. There's numerous Biblical texts that points to that. Having as an interpretation that the RCC is BOTH the 1st and 2nd beast of Rev 13 -- I think is pretty messed up, doesn't match scripture & history, make void many prophecies, and it doesn't hold together.

I have mentioned about this struggle of Jacob and Esau over the birthright in past posts numerous times. I don't remember where anymore. But I did find this post in this discussion:
http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=177171#Post177171

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/10/16 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Ignoring the woman vs. the beast, just because a beast creates something doesn't mean that something is Babylon.

My understanding is : Beast #1 did NOT CREATE Beast #2.
I thought we were talking about the banking system.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/12/16 05:09 PM

My Comment : I think the author of this article is right -- The coming of "the Eurasian Century is now Unstoppable".

This article is a good overview of China's detailed plans for the New Economic Silk Road known as "One Belt, One Road initiative"(OBOR). There will be lots of jobs comings for those countries involved and money circulating to cover all these massive projects.


The Eurasian Century Is Now Unstoppable

Oct 12, 2016
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/eurasian-century-now-unstoppable
Quote:

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In the course of my visit I was invited by China’s Northwest University in Xi’an to give a lecture and seminar on the present global political and economic situation in the context of China’s New Economic Silk Road as the One Belt, One Road project is often called.

What I’ve seen in my many visits to China, and have studied about the entirety of this enormously impressive international infrastructure project convinces me that a Eurasian Century at this point is unstoppable.

...
"The Eurasian Century is the name I give to the economic emergence of the countries contiguous from China across Central Asia, Russia, Belarus, Iran and potentially Turkey. They are being integrally linked through the largest public infrastructure projects in modern history, in fact the most ambitious ever, largely concentrated on the 2013 initiative by Chinese President Xi Jinping called the One Belt, One Road initiative or OBOR."

"The project and its implications for Europe and the rest of the world economy have been so far greeted in the west with a stone silence that defies explanation.

It’s been now three years that have transpired since then-new Chinese President Xi Jinping made one of his first foreign visits to Kazakhstan where he discussed the idea of building a vast, modern network of high-speed train lines crossing the vast Eurasian land space from the Pacific coast of China and Russia through Central Asia into Iran, into the states of the Eurasian Economic Union, principally Russia and potentially on to the select states of the European Union.

That initial proposal was unveiled in detail last year by the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC), China’s economic planning organization, and the ministries of Foreign Affairs and Commerce."

...

"Notably, China’s Xi Jinping decided to encourage input from sources other than the state central planning agency or the Communist Party for the complex OBOR. He encouraged creation of private and independent think-tanks to become a source of new creative ideas and approaches.

Today there is a Chinese Think Tank Cooperation Alliance group coordinating efforts around OBOR headed by the dean of the Renmin University. In turn they partner with think tanks along the OBOR route including think tanks in Iran, Turkey, India, Nepal, Kazakhstan and other countries.

There will be two main routes of the OBOR. On land there are several routes or corridors in work. The Initiative will focus on jointly building what is being called a new Eurasian Land Bridge from China via Kazakhstan on to Rotterdam. Other OBOR land rail corridors include developing China-Mongolia-Russia, China-Central Asia-West Asia, China-Pakistan, Bangladesh-China-India-Myanmar, and China-Indochina Peninsula economic corridors.vThis is huge.

It will build on international transport routes, relying on core cities along the OBOR route and using key economic industrial parks as “cooperation platforms.”

At sea, the Initiative will focus on jointly building smooth, secure and efficient transport routes connecting major sea ports along the “Belt and Road” including modern upgraded super port construction that will link present China ports at Haikou and Fujian with Kuala Lumpur’s port in Malaysia at the Malacca Strait passage, Calcutta in India, Nairobi in Kenya and via the Suez Canal to Athens and beyond. Crucial is that land and sea parts of OBOR are seen as one whole circulatory system or flow of trade.

The OBOR Initiative will link key Eurasian ports with interior rail and pipeline infrastructure in a way not before seen
To date China has signed memoranda of understanding with 56 countries and regional organizations regarding OBOR. Since his initial proposal in 2013, President Xi Jinping has personally visited 37 countries to discuss implementation of OBOR. China Railway Group and China Communications Construction Company have signed contracts for key routes and ports in 26 countries."

...

"It includes a major joint China-Russia $15 billion high-speed Kazan to Moscow line. The 770 kilometers of track between Moscow and Russia’s Tatarstan capital, Kazan, will cut time for the journey from 12 hours now to just 3.5 hours. China has agreed to invest $6 billion in the project which would become a part of a $100 billion high-speed railway between Moscow and Beijing.

Notably, for the new high-speed track being laid, China is developing a new generation of trains capable of reaching speeds of 400 kilometers per hour. And the new trains will solve the costly rail gauge switching problem between China rails and Russian.

Trains in Russia run on a 1520mm track, compared to the narrower 1435mm track used in Europe and China. Jia Limin, the head of China’s high-speed rail innovation program told China Daily that, “The train… will have wheels that can be adjusted to fit various gauges on other countries’ tracks, compared with trains now that need to have their wheels changed before entering foreign systems.”

Given its strategy of building thousands of kilometers of high-speed railways and developing its domestic Chinese rail Ellen manufacture as well as other rail technology, China today is the world’s leading producer of rail technology.

Financing the moving

Impressive is that China has secured capital commitment for the OBOR from various sources including the China Development Bank, Export-Import Bank of China, the China-initiated Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank, the BRICS New Development Bank and other sources including its Silk Road Fund to finance the huge undertaking.

The Silk Road Fund has posted $40 billion to fund the OBOR projects. So far close to a quarter trillion US dollars of ready money and another half trillion in supranational institutional working capital is reasonably within reach."

...

"The One Belt, One Road, by linking all the contiguous land areas of Eurasia to the related network of strategic new or enlarged deep-water ports of OBOR’s Maritime Silk Road, has rendered US geopolitical strategy a devastating blow at a time the hegemony of America is failing as never in its short history.

The Eurasian Century today is inevitable and unstoppable. Built on different principles of cooperation rather than domination, it just might offer a model for the bankrupt United States and the soon-bankrupt European Union, to build up true prosperity not based on looting and debt slavery."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/13/16 08:13 PM

My comment : The current situation in Spain of being without a government for over 280 days turned out to be a good thing.

There's talk from the inside sources that the US election will be cancelled, and another election with "real candidates" might run later on. So if this happens, then being without a government for a certain undefined time (the definition of "olam" in Hebrew) might be better than having the same old gang of thieves in office.

The “Best” government may be none at all
https://www.minds.com/blog/view/630502083992236043
10-5-16…

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“Spain is without a national government and the people are loving it”

“For over 280 days, the Spanish people have been without an elected government and, as it seems, it is the greatest thing to have happened to the country since it’s four-decades-old democracy began. In the words of language teacher, Félix Pastor, “no government, no thieves.”

“Things continue to function. It is not a shutdown; public employees are still getting paid, garbage is still getting collected, electricity still flows. The biggest difference is that there are no politicians creating new laws to muck it up.

“Without the corruption and power grab, the people of Spain may very well be able to create a new, functioning government based on the use of the internet and direct democracy.

““A lot of people said we would go to hell if we didn’t form a government,” said Ignacio Escolar, the editor of the news website eldiario.es. “But we’re still here.””
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/17/16 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : The current situation in Spain of being without a government for over 280 days turned out to be a good thing.

There's talk from the inside sources that the US election will be cancelled, and another election with "real candidates" might run later on. So if this happens, then being without a government for a certain undefined time (the definition of "olam" in Hebrew) might be better than having the same old gang of thieves in office.

The “Best” government may be none at all
https://www.minds.com/blog/view/630502083992236043
10-5-16…

Quote:
“Spain is without a national government and the people are loving it”

“For over 280 days, the Spanish people have been without an elected government and, as it seems, it is the greatest thing to have happened to the country since it’s four-decades-old democracy began. In the words of language teacher, Félix Pastor, “no government, no thieves.”

“Things continue to function. It is not a shutdown; public employees are still getting paid, garbage is still getting collected, electricity still flows. The biggest difference is that there are no politicians creating new laws to muck it up.

“Without the corruption and power grab, the people of Spain may very well be able to create a new, functioning government based on the use of the internet and direct democracy.

““A lot of people said we would go to hell if we didn’t form a government,” said Ignacio Escolar, the editor of the news website eldiario.es. “But we’re still here.””




Hahahahahaha!!!

Well, I can never agree to anarchy, but, a true democracy wouldn't be much better.

Seriously though. Without a national government, it seems they are set up for a global government.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/13/16 07:58 PM

The 2016 US Election Trump Victory and the Outcast of the Secret Government

My comment : The world financial news was quiet this fall. Jim Willie made that observation saying: the world was “in a state of suspended animation…that there is a pre-occupation on the voting, the campaign, the election, the explosion of voter frauds (illegal immigrants, dead people, and prison people allow to vote, voting machines changing votes in favor to Hilary and none in favor for Trump, etc), falsified polls, Clinton foundation crimes & frauds, the wikileaks emails exposure about treason not just with Hillary but also Obama, a lot of preoccupation about the politics and the war, a lot of treats of Nuclear War from the Kazarians Nazis as they should be called instead of Neo-Cons.” (interview with Elijah Johnson, Nov 2nd,

These terms “Neo-Cons, Kazarian Nazi, and Cabals” are all used interchangeably to describe those that have hi-jacked the US government (for more info watch this old 22 min short video by Bill Moyer about the history of the Secret Government).

This secret government (aka shadow government) is the current corrupt US establishment that has been in power since WW2. This secret government was backing Hilary. In an US election, typically both sides are backed by the secret government; however this wasn’t the case with Trump in the 2016 election. Trump was NOT part of the secret government, and that’s why the Republic party didn’t support Trump all along.

This Hillary defeat is also a defeat and an end of this Secret Government’s power over the US government. This by itself is extraordinary and will change the geopolitical course significantly. I agree with many that thinks that Trump is far from being an idealist president; however, I view this as the Lord’s Trump card used to outcast this illegal & corrupt secret government.

As expected, this Secret Government will do whatever they can to retain their power over the US government as they (Soros, Clintons, and others) immediately launch “Americas Purple Revolution”. This revolution is fabricated and financed by the secret government.

So we should be expecting a lot more turmoils in the US in 2017 as the Lord’s finishes His final step in the overthrow of Mystery Babylon.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/13/16 08:14 PM

The unfolding scandals, silent coup, and the overthrow of Babylon-Jezebel

Nov 02, 2016
By Stephen Jones
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...abylon-jezebel/

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The FBI’s decision on October 28 to reopen the investigation of the Clinton email scandal is setting of a huge chain of events that is greatly affecting the electoral process. This scandal is far bigger than most people realize, but it is continuing to build, and it can only get worse for Hillary Clinton.

I make it a policy not to endorse political candidates, but I do issue calls for prayer campaigns and spiritual warfare, and then I follow through with explanations about how those battles are affecting world events. Since our prayer campaign Nov. 1-14, 2001 appears to be affecting events 15 years later in 2016, it is appropriate for me to comment on recent news events.

Congressman Anthony Weiner’s “sexting” scandals with prostitutes and underage girls caused his wife, Huma Abedin, to separate from him last summer. But because Abedin has been a close friend (lover, actually, if the reports are true) of Hillary Clinton for the past 21 years, the backwash is now inundating Hillary and even Bill Clinton. Every time one lead is investigated, it seems to lead to something else.

Abedin’s use of a private server to send classified material to her husband’s laptop computer is the main topic of discussion. It seems that Hillary sent Abedin thousands of emails from her private server (clintonemail.com) to another (yahoo.com), including hundreds of classified documents (which are currently being investigated). Abedin, in turn, forwarded some of those emails to herself on her husband’s laptop.

Why she felt the need to keep them on a non-government email server is one of the main issues that the FBI is investigating. Abedin was born in Kalamazoo, Michigan to Muslim parents, who then took her to Saudi Arabia when she was just two years old. She was raised there until she returned to the USA for college, and then at the age of 19 fell in love with Hillary Clinton.

In 2010 Abedin married Anthony Weiner, and Bill Clinton performed the wedding ceremony. I believe this marriage was one of convenience, much like Bill and Hillary’s marriage. Surely both Bill and Huma herself must have known what kind of person Weiner was. Weiner and Bill are two of a kind and, I suspect, have a lot of seedy friends in common.

Reports say that it was Weiner’s illicit email to a 15-year old girl that opened up this latest FBI investigation. In seizing the laptop, the FBI discovered a much larger scandal, because Abedin’s emails suggested espionage. She is now being investigated as a possible spy for Saudi Arabia. The reason why government officials are not allowed to use private servers is because every government in the world is trying to learn US government secrets and would pay a lot of money to obtain such inside information.

So both Hillary and Huma Abedin have been using private servers, a crime which has jailed a number of people in the past. I should emphasize that whether or not classified material was being used is a secondary issue. Hillary’s “mistake” was a crime in itself, as for former CIA officer, Charles Faddis, tells us.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/retired-cia-officer-explains-why-hillarys-emails-matter

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I have worked in national security my entire life. Most of that has been in the intelligence community surrounded by classified information. For twenty years, I worked undercover in the Central Intelligence Agency, recruiting sources, producing intelligence and running operations. I have a pretty concrete understanding of how classified information is handled and how government communications systems work.

Nobody uses a private email server for official business. Period. Full stop.

The entire notion is, to borrow a phrase from a Clinton campaign official, “insane.” That anyone would presume to be allowed to do so is mind-boggling. That government officials allowed Hillary Clinton to do so is nauseating.

Classified and unclassified information do not mix. They don’t travel in the same streams through the same pipes. They move in clearly well defined channels so that never the twain shall meet. Mixing them together is unheard of and a major criminal offense.


The fact that the FBI refused earlier to prosecute her has completely demoralized the FBI itself. Director Comey was faced with a hundred resignations from agents, and even his own wife was angry with him.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/tom-delay-email-probe-fbi-agents/2016/11/01/id/756491/

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FBI Director James Comey reopened the agency's investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails last week because "almost 100" agents threatened to resign before next week's election, former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay told Newsmax TV.

"A few weeks ago, almost 100 agents were threatening Comey that they were going to resign — and that kind of pressure is what turned him around," DeLay, 69, the majority leader from 2003 to 2005, said on Tuesday's “The Steve Malzberg Show.”


FBI agents and departments continued to investigate Clinton even after Director Comey decided not to prosecute her last July. Many of those agents recall the chaos of the Clinton White House in the 1990’s under President Bill Clinton. They have concluded that a Hillary White House would be exponentially worse and would have the potential of destroying the entire country.

Further, the NYC police department continued investigating, led by Preet Bharara, the U.S. Prosecuting Attorney for the Southern District of New York. They threatened to go public with the information if the FBI continued to do nothing. Comey had little choice but to turn against his client and reopen the investigation.

This brought an immediate backlash, as US Attorney General Loretta Lynch, another Clinton friend, began to threaten Director Comey with the crime of breaking the Hatch Act. The FBI shot back by releasing emails pertaining to the mysterious death of Vince Foster during the Clinton presidency.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2016/11/02/...-investigation/

So now there is a war going on between the FBI and the Justice Department.

The Clintons must be getting worried, because a few weeks ago the Clinton Foundation sent $1.8 billion to a bank in Qatar, a country that has no extradition treaty with the United States.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y13INFBrcc&feature=share

President Obama still publicly supports Hillary, but he is taking steps to dissociate himself from her in case she goes down in flames. Hillary’s gestapo has gathered dirt on many powerful people in Washington, and this gives her leverage to demand that they protect her. The FBI knows this, due to their own intelligence files, so this adds to the intrigue behind this war.

Abedin herself agreed to testify and was given immunity as long as she told the truth. However, she apparently was caught lying, and this voided her immunity agreement. She is now in serious trouble, not only with the FBI, but also with Hillary herself.

Cheryl Mills, who is the Clinton Foundation director, has been given partial immunity in exchange for her testimony against the influence peddling, or “pay for play” scandal that is also being investigated. She was the one responsible for deleting Hillary’s emails. One of her own leaked emails has her suggesting this email dump in order to keep them out of the hands of the intelligence agencies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT6yCH3BAVU

We first learned how the Clintons were monetizing the White House back in the 1990’s when they were selling state secrets to China.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...e-families.html

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Cheryl Mills is unusual among Clinton insiders; she has already cut a deal with the FBI.

She exchanged partial immunity from prosecution in return for opening her laptop to FBI review during the Clinton email investigation.



There is so much happening right now that it is impossible to report on all of it. But the most significant story right now is coming from Dr. Steve Pieczenik, who tells us that on November 1st the Clintons initiated a “silent coup” against the US government. He says that the “good guys” have also initiated a silent counter-coup through Julian Assange of Wikileaks to prevent this from happening. The CIA and FBI and perhaps even the NSA apparently have finally had enough.

Essentially, he is admitting that the email leaks, which Hillary is attributing to Russian president Putin, are actually being leaked by our own intelligence organizations.

So who is Steve Pieczenik? He is trained as a psychiatrist but worked for the US State Department and became a “specialist on hostage taking,” presumably, to profile terrorists. He has served under five presidents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik

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Pieczenik is a Harvard University-trained psychiatrist and has a doctorate in international relations from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).[3]

Pie.[3] According to Pieczenik, he received a BA degree in Pre-Medicine and Psychology from Cornell in 1964, and later attended Cornell University Medical College. He attained his PhD in international relations from MIT while studying at Harvard Medical School.[4] Pieczenik claims to be the first psychiatrist ever to receive a PhD focusing on international relations.[5]

Pieczenik was Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance and James Baker.[3] His expertise includes foreign policy, international crisis management and psychological warfare.[7] He served the presidential administrations of Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush in the capacity of deputy assistant secretary.[8]

In 1974, Pieczenik joined the US State Department as a consultant to help in the restructuring of its Office for the Prevention of Terrorism.[2]

In 1976, Pieczenik was made Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for management.[2][5][9][10]

At the US State Department, he served as a "specialist on hostage taking".[11]


To hear what Pieczenik has to say, here are some short videos of him explaining this quiet coup and other things.

Part 1: (4:11)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM

Part 2: (2:43)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12zVlaZyX3Q

So if Dr. Pieczenik is telling the truth, his testimony is quite literally describing the divine court case of Nov. 1-8, 2001, which we called “You shall surely perish.” We could literally be seeing an entire change of government behind the scenes. Other reports claim that the original American Republic is being reconstituted, replacing the US Democracy that took over many years ago in the first big silent coup.

Most people are unaware of these things, because the schools do not teach the real history of America, nor do the newspapers reveal what is really going on secretly behind the scenes. But we know from our own study of history and prophecy that we have entered into the time (2014-2017) when Mystery Babylon’s time to rule has run out, and that Babylon (pictured as Jezebel) is falling. So we ought to expect to see major changes during this time frame, and the elections of 2016 appear to be a very significant event during this time.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/13/16 08:18 PM

The second American Revolution
Nov 03, 2016
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/11-2016/the-second-american-revolution/

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Dr. Steve Pieczenik was interviewed for about a half hour on Info Wars by Alex Jones. I personally don’t care for his bombastic style, and I wish he would just let Pieczenik talk without interrupting him and changing the subject. But it is what it is. Here is the interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zic64WhR14k

He talks more about the “civil coup” that Hillary Clinton and her allies have initiated to try to take over the agencies of the US government. He also makes it clear that certain elements in the 16 different intelligence communities have initiated a “counter coup” and will not accept her presidency, even if she wins the election.

If you listen closely, you will notice that there are opposing factions within the intelligence communities themselves—in particular, the CIA, which he calls the “Catholics In Action.”

He also says toward the end, “We will not accept Tim Kaine” as president. “He is part of the CIA, part of the nonsensical collusion… He works for Terry McAuliffe.” McAuliffe was a co-chairman of Bill Clinton’s re-election campaign in 1996 and became one of the directors of the Clinton Foundation in 2004.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_McAuliffe

The way Pieczenik talked gave me the impression that Tim Kaine works for the bad faction within the CIA.

He also says, “Obama came in through the CIA.” Again, he says, “He was a product of the CIA.” Pieczenik does not tell us if this was a good thing or a bad thing, but he advises Obama not to pardon Hillary or obstruct justice. Those who have instigated this “counter-coup” want to indict Hillary on charges of “bribery, corruption obstruction of justice, lying under oath, and most important, RICO,” or racketeering charges.

Huma Abedin, he says quite clearly, is a Saudi agent, recruited shortly after 1996 when she came back to the USA as a college student. His main concern is how she received top security clearance just two years after she returned to the United States. But he says that she is not the only foreign agent that has penetrated the government. Israel has also done the same, and Pieczenik identifies Michael Chertoff as one of their agents. Chertoff was the first one appointed to lead Homeland Security.

Alex Jones pushes the idea that the “Communist Chinese” are behind Hillary’s civil coup, because “Hillary is a Chinese agent.” Pieczenik affirms this, but it is clear that there is more than one Chinese faction as well. Hillary is an agent for the “Communist Chinese,” not the Chinese elders. Even so, he makes it clear that China as a nation is more interested in peaceful development of the world economy and its infrastructure. Their model is what the Dutch did in the 16th century (draining swampland with canals and windmills).

It is also of interest that Pieczenik has great respect for Chelsea Clinton. He says she tipped them off on the death of 10,000 Haitians that somehow were the responsibility of her parents. He says that she has had concerns about the Clinton Foundation. I have some read other reports about this as well, indicating that she has had a hand in the overthrow of her own mother’s political career, even though she publicly campaigns on her behalf. Pieczenik does not explain this further.

Overall, I think it is important to understand that in every organization and in every government, there are good people and bad people. When bad people are in power, the good suffer along with everyone else. Fortunately, the good people in the intelligence community did not resign. Instead, they worked behind the scenes and made plans for the future.

Pieczenik says that he wrote about the coup more than 20 years ago in his 1992 book, Maximum Vigilence. You can buy a used copy here for just 99 cents plus postage.

http://www.alibris.com/Maximum-Vigilance-Steve-R-Pieczenik/book/4245774

For him to bring this up in this interview shows that he had been thinking about a counter-coup for a long time. Writing novels is a good way to express ideas and even to formulate plans. Alex Jones tells us that Pieczenik co-wrote the Tom Clancy novels as well.

The bottom line is that we have to take what Dr. Steve Pieczenik says very seriously. He is not a conspiracy theorist wannabe trying to make a name for himself. He is an educated professional who has worked for decades in government circles and with the intelligence agencies. If he says that Hillary Clinton (and her backers) have initiated a “civil coup,” I have no right to dispute this. If he says that certain factions in the intelligence community have initiated a “counter coup,” I have no choice but to believe this as well.

This is not just bluster and bravado. This is a second American Revolution, which he says is the most important event in American history since the original American Revolution in 1776.

Would such an important event come upon us unexpectedly? Is there no prophecy about this? Is there no revelation about it that might give us warning ahead of time to confirm it? I cannot speak for others, but I can say that we got revelation about it in 2001, though we did not know exactly what we were seeing or doing. The divine court decree on October 28, 2001, which resulted in the court battle from Nov. 1-8, 2001, has surfaced 15 years later in 2016, according to the pattern of Hezekiah. We have suspected this and have been watching and wondering about this since the beginning of the year.

Full proof of this should be seen by watching events on November 5 and 8. If I am reading this correctly, Hillary Clinton should either resign or drop out of the race for some reason on November 5. That should be the most important date in this current situation. There is always a certain level of uncertainty as to how to interpret spiritual events that were established in the past, because until we arrive at the moment of truth. Until the spiritual events begin to emerge into the world, we don’t know how the story will play out or even who the players will be.

But now it seems clear that the Ahab/Bill Clinton events ended on September 11, 2001, and then the scene shifted to Jezebel/Hillary Clinton, beginning with our prayer campaign and the divine court case, "You shall surely perish," on November 1-8, 2001. It appears that we are now at the culmination of her career, and that she will soon be tossed out of the political window, following the Jezebel pattern in Scripture.

All of this is the next (interim) step in the progression of history leading to the rise of the Stone Kingdom.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/14/16 04:33 PM

My comment : Sorry for the delay in posting all of these.

A brief analysis

Nov 06, 2016
by Steven Jones

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/11-2016/a-brief-analysis/

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We have long believed that 2016 would be an important pivotal year, not merely in US history, but in the history of the Kingdom itself. As the time approached, we saw the buildup of events throughout the year leading toward the election in November and realized that this could well take us to the climax of whatever God was doing in the year 2016.

The political season in 2016 has been extremely volatile and caustic, almost like a mud fight. We have not seen this kind of fighting since the Babylonians took control of both parties and gave us a simulated democracy.

With Dr. Steve Pieczenik's recent announcement this week that we are entering into a second American Revolution, it appears that the boil has now popped, and we are now able to see the precise nature of what we have been looking for. The various agencies of government intelligence have long been controlled at the top by presidential appointees, who have managed to keep the agencies working to protect the Babylonians from being exposed. Yet over the years, I often heard rumblings from the good people within those same agencies who were discontented with such protection. I even heard rumors of good guys, or "white hats" forming their own friendships, making plans someday to overthrow the secret organizations that had taken over the reins of government.

As early as the mid-1970's, I heard it said that if we ever had another revolution, it would come at the hands of the military. In the early 1980's I heard that many of the generals are working for the Babylonian government, but at the level of Colonel, which controls much of the day-to-day operation of military bases, there was a high degree of patriotism and discontent.

Dr. Steve Pieczenik is a colonel.

In the past few years I began to hear that the Pentagon had two main factions within it. One faction served the Babylonian order, while the other hoped someday to gain power and reestablish Constitutional government, particularly the original Republic that was founded in 1789 when the Constitution was signed. Then I began to hear that same split was being seen in other agencies, particularly the intelligence community. It looked to me like a cold war was going on within the agencies, and that things were building up toward a climax soon.

Then Dr. Pieczenik burst on the scene with his announcement of the second American Revolution. I was not taken by surprise, but suddenly, all that I had heard in past decades was suddenly confirmed. His credentials are impeccable, insofar as his connections to the intelligence community is concerned. In that sense, his announcement is on par with a presidential proclamation. I have to believe that what he is saying is true.

This does not mean that I have no reservations about what is actually happening. These intelligence people are well trained in saying just enough to serve whatever purpose they have, while hiding the majority of the facts behind it. Furthermore, since he is a psychiatrist trained in psychological operations/warfare, and is an expert in intrigue (as shown in his books), he is too intelligent and too capable to be trusted completely. I could never be absolutely sure of his motives or of those he represents.

The problem is that there is no way for the average person to be anything but a pawn in a very large and dangerous game. This is ultimately an internal battle within the ranks of the intelligence community, and both sides will solicit our support. Most people do not have enough facts to make proper decisions, and in the end, most people have been dumbed down by the educational system and the mainstream media so that they are not equipped to analyse what they are hearing.

Just look at the political process. I rest my case.

Dr. Pieczenik, I believe, is a patriot, but as a Jew (probably secular), he is probably not well informed on Scripture or prophecy. It is doubtful if he understands the concept of the Kingdom of God. His concern is to reestablish the Republic and to get rid of those who usurped power over us. Insofar as that goes, we have much in common, though we define the usurpers in prophetic terms (Mystery Babylon).

This Revolution is not being led by those who want to establish Christ's Kingdom, but what they are doing (however inadvertently) is to take out the old order of Babylon in order to prepare for the Kingdom. The downfall of Babylon will involve an interim step before the Kingdom is established. It is timed precisely according to our understanding of prophecy. I have written in recent years about the time from 2014-2017, in which we ought to see the collapse of Mystery Babylon. I don't think that Dr. Pieczenik has read any of my material, nor would he give it credence. However, these events, which he is part of, are part of the divine plan, whether he believes it or not.

It appears that we have entered into a year of change, possibly with some chaos and trouble as the Babylonians fight for their lives to keep control of the earth. This particular prophetic season does not end for at least another year, and possibly as late as 2018, which is the 70th anniversary of the Israeli state (May 1948) and the 100-year anniversary of the end of World War 1 (November 11, 1918).

Another time cycle that I am watching dates back to October 31, 1517, when Martin Luther sparked the Protestant Reformation by nailing his "95 Theses" on the church door in Wittenberg. We just passed the 499th anniversary of that event. Next year will be 500 years. Nine years ago, on October 31, 2007 a group of us met in Oklahoma City and took note that this was the 490th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation. Next year will be 500 years.

So much points to 2017 as a climax of something, and this tells me that from now until then we could be entering into a power struggle at the top. We should all be very watchful and take prudent steps to prepare ourselves for this. I do not anticipate open war, nuclear or otherwise, nor do I think we will see great physical destruction take place. I believe that this is a prophetic repeat of Cyrus' takeover of Babylon. He took the city intact, and only the king was killed. The government officials simply changed bosses and were required to do things differently, and the people went on with their lives.

The problem is that while Scripture gives us a broad picture, we do not have many details. We know the outcome, but little of the process. So there is always a level of uncertainty when preparing for prophetic events--even when we understand prophecy. This is why it is so important to be led by the Spirit. The safest place is where the Holy Spirit tells you to be. Let us not react to outside appearances, but to the Spirit of God, who knows the reality of all things. If you have learned to live such a life of faith, you can trust Him with your life.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/15/16 02:01 PM

My comment : Another interesting blog...

Post-election comments

Nov 09, 2016
by Steven Jones

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It appears that Donald Trump has won the election for US president. All the newscasters are offering their reasons, explanations, and excuses. One thing is certain: It wasn’t supposed to happen this way.

Normally, the Babylonians control both sides of an election, so the campaign disagreements are not so bitter. This time, however, regardless of the actual campaign issues, it was really about whether the politician of the established Babylonian system would win, or an outsider.

Either way, of course, the fight has just begun. The USA has been split 50/50 for quite a long time, at least dating back to the 2000 election with Bush and Gore. But Bush and Gore were both establishment candidates. That is what makes this present election different.

If Clinton had won this election, she would have been faced with impeachment almost immediately, and chaos would have continued throughout her entire term of office. Now that Trump has won, we will see chaos of a different kind, as it is likely that many will protest any bill restricting immigration or renegotiation of trade agreements.

Pastor Lindsay Williams tells us that his “elite” friends are very alarmed and disturbed, because Trump was not the candidate of Big Oil and Big Banks. It is ironic that billionaire Trump is not supported by any other billionaires. In other words, he does not represent the rich and powerful. The Republican Party itself is said to represent the rich—at least, according to charges made by the Democrats—but Trump hardly represents the Republican Party either. Trump’s Party spent nothing to get him elected, so Trump has no reason to go along with their choices for cabinet members that are normally imposed on a newly-elected president.

Williams has been telling us that if Trump is elected, the “elites” will crash the system in order to blame Trump for wrecking the economy. Actually, they planned to crash the system anyway, but their original reason was to gain more power through martial law and executive orders. That is what would have occurred under Clinton. But now it will be an excuse to make war on Trump.

Even more important is that the Babylonian plans for World War III have now suffered a huge setback. Hillary’s rhetoric against Russia, along with Obama’s sanctions and sabre-rattling along Russia’s border, has been to prepare the way for a coming war. Putin has recognized this and has been saying that if Hillary wins the presidential race, there will almost certainly be war. But the immediate danger is now past, and the news of a Trump victory brought applause from the Russian parliament.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/ap_nation/p...dbe42384cc.html

Apparently Russia does not want war with the US. It is ironic, of course, that some people voted for Hillary because they think Trump would have brought us into World War III. Actually, the opposite is true, but people have been misinformed by the mainstream news media. Here is Putin’s warning from last July:

http://investmentwatchblog.com/putin-war...him-must-watch/

Recently, Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke to the mainstream media during a press conference where he claimed that the world is being pushed irreversibly towards war….

Putin went on to say,
“It’s only you (the media) that they (the government) tell tall-tales to and you buy it and spread it to the citizens of your countries. Your people in turn do not feel a sense of the impending danger. This is what worries me. How do you not understand that the world is being pulled in an irreversible direction? While they pretend that nothing’s going on. I don’t know how to get through to you anymore…”

While Vladimir Putin certainly isn’t a saint and for us voluntaryist AnCap types, he’s certainly not someone who stands for our beliefs, all the same he appears to be the adult on the block while kids like Justin Trudeau, Obama, Hillary Clinton and Merkel decide on how to fire the first shots of World War 3.

Now that Trump has been elected, the case for World War III has been damaged—hopefully, beyond repair. All of this is quite strange, considering that the Republican Party has been the War Party for the past few decades (since the Vietnam War). But now that mantle has been passed down to the Democratic Party.

The irony is that Putin has been the peacemaker, though vilified as a warmonger. It is not Russia but the US and other Western nations that have been pushing for a war. Recall General Wesley Clark’s reports that the US decided in 2001 to destabilize the Middle East and to “overthrow seven countries in five years” in order to cause chaos in the region. I believe that the underlying motive was to implement the Pike Plan for World War III that was conceived more than a century ago, along with the first two world wars.

At any rate, when the US plan began to destabilize Syria, Putin put his foot down and said, “NO MORE.” That made him the warmonger in the eyes of the media, according to the old principle that “Joe started it when he hit me back.” But we need to face the fact that our own government is not always on the right side of international issues. But if the people can be induced to support its evil plots, then we all suffer the consequences.

I believe we have entered into a time of increased chaos, which is evidence of an intense battle for regime change in America. Babylon is trying to retain its grip on power in the West. But the time of Babylon’s mandate has expired (2014-2017), so the Babylonians will certainly lose this battle. It is only a matter of time. Yet I see at least another year of struggle and possible chaos.

Lazarus Wins

An interesting coincidence from New Zealand is that a horse named Lazarus has won the “Trotting Cup.” This was in the news for November 8, 2016.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11744527

Lazarus produced one of greatest performances in New Zealand horse racing history to destroy his opponents in today's $750,000 New Zealand Trotting Cup.

The four-year-old hot favourite thrashed New Zealand's best pacers by 10 lengths, rewriting the record book in the process.

Not only was his margin the biggest in the modern history of the race but his time of 3:53.1 took a staggering 1.5 seconds off the national record set just two years ago by his champion stablemate Adore Me.

Lazarus was last season's freakish three-year-old but few four-year-olds are asked to contest the Cup let alone win it. None have won it so emphatically.

The horse is also called as “Freakish Lazarus” and a “Freakish Pacer.”

http://harnessnews.com.au/2016/11/freakish-pacer-smashes-record-in-nz-cup/

FREAKISH pacer Lazarus smashed the world record with his demolition job of today’s New Zealand Cup.

As the Good Book says, “The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death” (1 Corinthians 15:26 KJV). Lazarus represents the resurrected ones, and his name carries a numeric value of 144. Perhaps he is somehow associated with Donald Trump, who is America’s own Demolition Man.

But considering the fact that this election has connections with our prayer campaign from 15 years ago (Nov. 1-14, 2001), called “Entering the Millennium of Rest,” along with the divine court case that overlaid that prayer campaign (Nov. 1-8, 2001), known as “You Shall Surely Perish,” the raising of Lazarus seems hardly coincidental. The Millennium, as described in Revelation 20, begins properly with the first resurrection—the “Lazarus” company.

Years ago Ron heard the Father say, “Wait till I play My Donald Trump card.” “Well, it appears that He has now plaid His Trump card. Back then, the meaning of this was unclear. Did that mean Trump would run for president? Did it mean that Trump would win? We could not say for sure.

The Jezebel Factor

Now that Hillary Clinton has lost the presidential race, it seems clear that Jezebel has been thrown out the window by her eunuchs (2 Kings 9:32, 33). Trump has been playing the part of Jehu, the demolition man in his time, who was anointed to avenge the death of Naboth when Jezebel arranged to execute him on “trumped up charges.” Elijah anointed Jehu to do this dirty work, even though Jehu’s character was questionable. Certainly, Jehu was not Mr. Nice Guy, nor was he spiritually minded. Nonetheless, God found use for him.

As I wrote in the past, I could not say for sure if Jezebel would be thrown out the window before the election, during, or afterward. It was hidden from me, and prophecies from others were contradictory, so they were not really helpful. There was nothing to do but wait and see. Well, we have now waited and seed. It appears that the Ahab factor lasted from 1993-2001, and the Jezebel factor lasted from 2001-2016.

Since Jezebel is pictured in the book of Revelation as the “great harlot” of Babylon, we can see Hillary’s fall as a precursor to the fall of Babylon itself. Since her rise began with the final end of Bill’s story on September 11, 2001, we can view the Twin Towers demolition as a prophetic precursor to the fall of both Hillary-Jezebel and Babylon as a whole. The Twin Towers of Pride and Greed were demolished on 911, which is the numeric value of “Grace” (Greek: charis). We recognized in 2001 that the Twin Towers demolition was a hidden prophecy of grace, even in the midst of chaos and destruction. That is how we should view the results of this election as well.

Janet Reno dies November 7, 2016

Back in January 2001, as we were preparing for a year of spiritual warfare to overthrow the seven spiritual princes over America, we received revelation that Janet Reno represented one of the major demonic entities that we were to deal with. She did not manifest one of the seven princes themselves, but rather one of the lesser entities.

Recall that these 2001 battles are surfacing in the world now in 2016, and that that the series of battles finally came to an end on November 8, 2001. Significantly, then, Janet Reno died the day before the election on November 7, 2016.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/janet-reno-us-attorney-general-died-43353469

There is hardly any point in discussing her corrupt life style or her destructive policies. But this seems to be a noteworthy event in the progression of the great war in the heavens and how it plays out here on earth.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/15/16 02:10 PM

My comment : ...and another one.

Very insightful comment made regarding that the 1800s Pike Plan to destabilize the middle East with war so to bring in the Luciferian faith might of been via to bring an influx of Islamic refugees in Christian countries : #1 "to dilute the “Christian” culture and reduce the political power of Christian voters" and 2 other good points made.

Looking ahead in a post-Jezebel era

Nov 10, 2016
by Steven Jones

Quote:
When overseas markets discovered that Trump was the projected winner of the US elections, their stock markets crashed, and the Dow futures market was down 800 points. But by morning, when the sun came up as usual, and the earth had not yet been destroyed, the Dow recovered and closed the day up 257 points.

That is an unbelievable swing, and it reminds me of what happened after the Brexit. In both cases there was a knee-jerk reaction of fear and panic, followed by the discovery that stocks were suddenly under-valued! Call it greed, I suppose. The markets function on fear and greed.

Today the markets are already into record-high territory. Perhaps the traders on the floor of the US Stock Exchange are feeling much more positive about the results of the election than the oligarchs. Few of them dared to say much prior to the Trump win, but while Hillary was giving her concession speech, the traders on the floor on Wall Street came out of the closet and gave her a good send-off. The CNN, which many refer to as the Clinton News Network, ran the headline:

Wall Street traders boo Hillary Clinton, chant “Lock her up!”

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/09/investing/wall-street-traders-boo-hillary-clinton/index.html

Loud booing rocked the floor of the storied New York Stock Exchange on Wednesday during Hillary Clinton's concession speech to President-elect Donald Trump.

Some of the Wall Street traders began chanting "lock her up!," as Clinton appeared on television screens, urging her millions of disappointed supporters to accept the stunning defeat.

"Ding-dong, the witch is dead," shouted another floor trader.

The harsh reception for Clinton is the latest chapter in the bitter campaign for the White House.

I suppose that the rest of the world, which receives only the news from the controlled press, does not truly understand why so many in America would vote for Trump, considering his policy of confrontation, rather than diplomacy and compromise. But most Americans are Clinton-fatigued, regardless of who they voted for.

Many Americans remember the continuous scandals in the 1990’s during Bill Clinton’s presidency, beginning with his first week in office back in 1993. That scandal was called Travelgate. After four years of continuous corruption scandals, many could not figure out why anyone would vote for the man. But he was elected to a second scandal-ridden term.

George Bush was elected in November of 2000 more as a reaction to the Clinton immorality scandals than anything. Yet even then the country was evenly divided. Unfortunately, Bush turned out to be the warmongering president, and so after eight years of continuous war, the people became war-fatigued as well. Hence, Obama was elected by his promises to close Guantanamo and get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

I commented at the time: “It’s easier to get into a war than to get out of it.” Sure enough, it took a long time to get out, and even then, it was messy. You cannot destroy a country and then leave immediately without leaving devastation that will last at least a generation.

But instead of getting us out of war, the Obama administration presided over the remaining parts of the US plan to “overthrow seven countries in five years.” He did manage to resist efforts to send troops openly to Syria, but there have been many covert operations that the government would not comment about.

These war policies are bigger than the presidency, of course. In fact, presidents are expected to follow such orders from those oligarchs who are far more powerful than any US president. So I do not place much responsibility upon any president for his own actions—at least, not the really important actions and policies.

Even so, the result of the Syrian war, sparked by US support for the rebels (and even for ISIS), has brought absolute chaos to Syria. In contemplating the motive for this war plan, I wondered at first if it was done to destabilize all potential enemies of the Israeli state. But the huge wave of refugee immigration into Europe and America shows that this was the real agenda. We saw this in the 1990’s with the disaster in Somalia, which brought many refugees to America. It is ironic that the very countries that destabilize other nations are the places where refugees flee.

The real question is WHY? What do these Babylonian oligarchs hope to achieve?

The bottom line is that they want money and power. Of course, they know it must be done through “humanitarian” methods in order to sell their policy to the world. If you cause a war, then you can use other people’s money (taxpayers) to fix the problem by welcoming millions of refugees. The refugees themselves, most of whom just want to reach safety and rebuild a new life for themselves, do not understand how they are being used by ruthless oligarchs in the West.

But how does a huge influx of refugees help them achieve that goal?

First, their long-term goal is to dilute the “Christian” culture and reduce the political power of Christian voters. Here they simply followed the Pope’s “humanitarian” policy of encouraging refugees from Central America and Mexico to move north. Within a generation, this would add millions of voters to the Catholic voting bloc.

The Jews used this tactic to gain control of Palestine decades ago, and even today they do not allow anyone else in as refugees. In fact, they use stringent laws to encourage them to leave. They understand the Power of Population and having a unified culture, and they are willing to oppress others and deny them basic human rights in order to achieve the goal of a truly “Jewish state.”

We could take this back two or three centuries and see how America itself was founded by immigrants. The continent was conquered by immigration, and the Native Americans lost, because they had no immigration source of their own to draw upon. When you lack the Power of Population, your days are numbered.

The Babylonian oligarchs know all of this and use it strategically in power politics.

Second, they know that Islam and Christianity are inherently incompatible as far as culture and religion are concerned. They know that to bring large quantities of Islamic people into Christian cultures will eventually replace Christian culture with Islamic culture. Currently, the laws of the Western countries are based upon the Justinian Codex (529-534 A.D.), or “Church law.” To be sure, that law system is flawed in many ways, because it brought Europe the Feudal System of serfs and lords. (Today we call them citizens and oligarchs.) However, in spite of its flawed and oppressive governmental system, it does provide a moral code that is (or was) based on biblical law. But as Islamic people become voters, this is sure to shift toward Sharia law.

The irony is that the Democratic Party, which heartily supports the influx of all immigrants in order to register them as voting Democrats, does not seem to understand that at some point the Islamic voters will have sufficient weight to put Sharia law on the Party Platform. That would mean an end to gay rights, women’s rights, along with an end to Christian rights. Democrats are tricked into believing that Islamic people will blend into American society and peacefully accept the so-called American way of life and democracy in general. In other words, missionaries of the Democratic Party think that they can convert Islamic people to accept the principles of sexual freedom and women’s equality.

I believe they are dead wrong. They will accept the fact that others abide by these principles until they have established citizenship, organized into voting blocs, and have gained control of certain cities by the Power of Population. But at some point they will be confident enough to begin changing the laws, morals, and political system to their view of things. After all, our system gives that right to every citizen.

Third, the Babylonian oligarchs know that a certain percentage of peaceful immigrants will cause trouble. Or their children will be radicalized by those appealing to medieval Islamic views in much the same way that Christians appeal to the doctrines and practices of apostolic Christianity. That is a powerful appeal to both Christians and Muslims, because it can be argued that the current religions have been corrupted and no longer resemble the vision of their founders.

It only takes a few radicals to provide the government with an excuse to clamp down and remove freedoms from EVERYONE equally. Take, for example, the so-called Patriot Act that was passed in the wake of the Twin Towers demolition. In the name of “security,” we lost a lot of basic freedoms, putting us on the path of a Police State. The Patriot Act was signed into law on October 26, 2001, about six weeks after the Twin Towers demolition. Does anyone seriously believe that it was written after September 11, 2001? How could such a bill be written so quickly? And who wrote it?

It is obvious to me that it was pre-written in anticipation of 911. It was written by lawyers hired by the oligarchs who planned and implemented 911. These oligarchs did not mind killing thousands of people in order to accomplish their goal of tightening security and thereby gaining more dictatorial power. The bill was not even introduced until October 23, and yet it was passed within two days and signed on the third day. Did anyone actually read the bill before passing it?

When we look at the big picture, it is clear that the Babylonian oligarchs ruling the west have moved toward achieving total power, but they have done so slowly so that the people are not alarmed or awakened from their sleep. The Christians have largely accepted Socialism as a “normal” way of life. Catholics specifically accept the idea of a pope (oligarch) who lays claim to both spiritual and civil power over the earth. Islamic people are easily ruled by oligarchs as well, as long as the visible oligarchs claim to be Muslim.

Both groups can be ruled by the same Babylonian oligarchs, as long as they hold secret power over the visible leaders. This, I believe, is their goal. They believe that their power will not be affected, no matter if America and Europe are Christian or Muslim. The culture and religion may change, along with the laws, but power remains in the hands of the same oligarchs.

The problem is that all of the earlier empires have used this model and have failed in the end. A “king of kings” ruled over vassal kings. Caesars ruled over regular kings. It is no different today, except that they have learned to add the secrecy factor to the mix. Hence, it is no longer Babylon, but Mystery (secret) Babylon. Secrecy works only as long as it remains a secret. Exposure to the light brings the whole structure crashing to the ground.

We are living in a time where the “mystery” is being removed from Babylon. The veil is being lifted largely through the internet, where every truth and falsehood is disseminated. But Scripture tells us that the current Babylonian structure will fall to “the kings from the east” (Revelation 16:12). This is evidently China and Russia, whose power is rising in this century, even as Media and Persia rose up east of Babylon more than 2,500 years ago.

This geopolitical situation alone is causing a great shift in the world’s center of gravity, to say nothing of the economic shift. But the final great shift will come with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. This will change everything and will take all nations by surprise. Without it, we would see only a shift of power from west to east, but with the Spirit’s presence, the hearts of the people will be changed on a massive scale. That door is now beginning to open.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/16/16 08:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
This secret government (aka shadow government) is the current corrupt US establishment that has been in power since WW2. This secret government was backing Hilary. In an US election, typically both sides are backed by the secret government; however this wasn’t the case with Trump in the 2016 election. Trump was NOT part of the secret government, and that’s why the Republic party didn’t support Trump all along.

This Hillary defeat is also a defeat and an end of this Secret Government’s power over the US government.

If the "corrupt US establishment" was backing Hillary, why did Trump win? In fact, how could someone they didn't back even be in the running? Unless the "corrupt US establishment" wasn't really "in power since WW2".
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/21/16 09:43 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
This secret government (aka shadow government) is the current corrupt US establishment that has been in power since WW2. This secret government was backing Hilary. In an US election, typically both sides are backed by the secret government; however this wasn’t the case with Trump in the 2016 election. Trump was NOT part of the secret government, and that’s why the Republic party didn’t support Trump all along.

This Hillary defeat is also a defeat and an end of this Secret Government’s power over the US government.

If the "corrupt US establishment" was backing Hillary, why did Trump win?

He had his own money. He didn't need anyone to support financially his campaign.

Originally Posted By: kland
In fact, how could someone they didn't back even be in the running?

To give the illusion that we have a democracy.

Originally Posted By: kland
Unless the "corrupt US establishment" wasn't really "in power since WW2".

??? I think you missed out on some historical info and facts.

When I'll see a good article summarizing the 2016 election with lots of supporting links of reputable news sources, I'll post it so you can have a better scope.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/22/16 01:15 PM

My comment : Trump gave a list of actions, he and his transitional team, to take on the first 100 days in office. To me, it looks like Trump is not loosing any time "to make America great again".

The first item listed is to dismantle the New World Order fascist commerce platform called the TPP(Trans Pacific Partnership) setup by Mystery Babylon to favor Mega-Corps. Trump says the TPP is "a potential disaster for America". I would of withdrawn the word "potential" in that statement.

The ethics reform sounds like a very good thing especially the "lifetime ban on lobbying for foreign governments". Am I reading this correctly? Would this mean that the biggest foreign political party -- AIPAC (American Israel Public Affair Commitee) -- that influence US Foreign policies will be banned? That would be quite the transition since WWII foreign policies that made US a Terrorist Nation towards any other nation.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-21...hdrawing-us-tpp

Trump Says He Will Issue Executive Order On First Day In Office Withdrawing U.S. From TPP

Nov 21, 2016
Quote:
In a video message released moments ago by Donald Trump, the President-Elect announced that he has asked his team to develop a list of executive actions for his first day as president and announced that he would issue an executive order on his first day of office, withdrawing the US from the Trans Pacific Partnership, and would issue a notification of intent to withdraw from the TPP, voiding Obama's "free-trade legacy."

Trump stated that his agenda "will be based on a simple core principle, putting America first... whether it's producing steel, building cars, or curing disease, I want the next generation of production and innovation to happen right her on our great homeland."

He added that he would issue a rule, along the lines of what he proposed during his Gettysburg address, that for every new government regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated, and said that he will direct the labor department to investigate abuses of visa programs.

TRADE - Withdraw from TPP and negotiate bilateral trade deals in America's favor
ENERGY - Cancel job-killing restrictions on American energy industry (including shale energy and clean coal)
REGULATION - For each new regulation, 2 old rules must be eliminated
NATIONAL SECURITY - Develop a plan to protect America's vital infrastructure from cyber-attacks and all other forms of attack
IMMIGRATION - Direct Department of Labor to investigate all abuses of visa programs
ETHICS REFORM - Drain the swamp by imposing a 5-year ban on executive officials becoming lobbyist after they leave the administration (and a lifetime ban on lobbying for foreign governments)
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/22/16 02:50 PM

Kim Clement’s prophecies regarding Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton


I'm posting this potential prophesy in this discussion because, as Christian, we are expecting a significant outpouring of the Holy Spirit that, in my view, will be a significant factor influencing all current world affairs including this major reform in the US Government. This will facilitate and accelerate the Global Economic Reform that the BRICS Nations -- China, Russia, and over 200 allied countries -- been pressing since 2010.

These 4 prophetic messages came to Kim Clement from 2006 to 2013 ... all dated way before Trump even made public his candidacy for presidency. The video clips are presented by Synil Isaac who knows Kim personally. Already, things that was uttered in these prophecies has come to pass.

The first prophesy(April 20, 2013) @ 7:20 min mark :
"...Donald...you will be elected"

The 2nd prophesy(April 4, 2007) @ the 10:00 mark :
"...Trump will be a Trumpet...Bill Gates to open up the gate of a financial realm for the church "

The 3rd (February 10, 2007) --
“...I will put at your helm for two terms a president that will pray, but he will not be a praying president when he starts. I will put him in office, and then I will baptize him with the Holy Spirit and My power, says the Lord of hosts."

The 4th (2006) @ 13:10 min mark --
"Hillary Clinton...I have already dealt with her heart, not to be president of this nation, but to be president in a Christian world. She will have a testimony second to none"

Wow! Can you imagine the impact of having Hillary genuinely converted? Imagine her witness. According to this, she will become "president in a Christian world" Wow. That would be so powerful and wonderful.

So if this message is really from the Lord, it seems that the outpouring of the Holy Spirit will start with main political leaders like Trump, Hillary, Clark, and Bill Gates who have been mentioned specifically in this potential prophetic utterance. I think that would be an very effective and smart way for the Lord to get this transition from Mystery Babylon Empire to establish His Kingdom with His laws and His people on the head of it. (Daniel 2 & 7).

You can find the complete transcription of Kim's received prophetic word below. Stephen Jones has transcribe the complete 4 utterances given to Kim in the order given in the video with his(Stephen's) comments.

Quote:
Nov 17, 2016
by Stephen Jones
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...th-my-comments/

This is quite impressive. Here is the link and a transcript of the specific prophetic words that Kim Clement spoke, so I was able to transcribe it here (below). They are transcribed in the order given on the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9c_V9BdPyM

April 20, 2013

There is a man by the name of Mr. Clark,1 and there is also another man by the name of Donald.2 You are both watching me, saying, “Could it be that God is speaking to me?” Yes, he is! Somebody, just a few minutes before you came on the show, you went out and you took the American flag, and you said, “I’m proud of my nation.”3 You raised it up and God said, “You have been determined through your prayers to influence this nation. You’re watching me; you’re an influential person.” The Spirit of God says, “Hear the word of the prophet to you as a king,4 I will open that door that you prayed about.5 And when it comes time for the election, you will be elected.”

April 4, 2007

“This that shall take place shall be the most unusual thing,6 a transfiguration, a going into the marketplace, if you wish, into the news media, where Time Magazine will have no choice but to say what I want them to say.7 Newsweek, what I want them to say. The View, what I want them to say. Trump shall become a trumpet,8 says the Lord. Trump shall become a trumpet. I will raise up the Trump to become a trumpet, and Bill Gates to open up the gate of a financial realm for the church,9 says the Lord….

For God said, “I will not forget 9/11. I will not forget what took place that day, and I will not forget the gatekeeper that watched over New York,10 who will once again stand and watch over this nation,” says the Spirit of God. “It shall come to pass that the man that I shall place in the highest office shall go in whispering My name. But God said, when he enters into the office, he will be shouting out by the power of the Spirit. For I shall fill Him with My Spirit when he goes into office, and there will be a praying man in the highest seat in your land.11

February 10, 2007

There will be a praying president, not a religious one.12 For I will fool the people, says the Lord. I will fool the people, yes I will.13 God says, the one that is chosen shall go in, and they shall say, “he has hot blood.”14 For the Spirit of God says, yes, he may have hot blood, but he will bring the walls of protection on this country in a greater way, and the economy of this country shall change rapidly,15 says the Lord of hosts. Listen to the word of the Lord. God says, “I will put at your helm for two terms16 a president that will pray, but he will not be a praying president when he starts. I will put him in office, and then I will baptize him with the Holy Spirit and My power,17 says the Lord of hosts.

January 14, 2006

And some of you said, when the Spirit said, “Hillary Clinton,” some of you shouted out, “yes!” God said, “I have already dealt with her heart, not to be president of this nation,18 but to be president in a Christian world.19 She will have a testimony second to none and will eventually come out with it and make declaration that Christ Jesus saved her marriage,20 saved her child,21 and saved her life.22 And when this happens, there will be a shaking in the Democratic Party so powerful.”23

Footnotes:

1 Perhaps Sheriff Clark of Milwaukee

2 This was in 2007—long before Donald Trump made his announcement to run for president in 2015.

3 Compare with the Motto: “Make America Great Again.”

4 Donald means “world ruler.”

5 It appears that the Open Door Ministry that we have discussed for many years also has a political application to Donald Trump. It is significant, then, that last September we held a Tabernacles conference in Minneapolis in proxy for Duluth, Minnesota. Duluth is a daleth, the fourth letter of the Hebrew alphabet that means “an open door.” Then in the third week of October, we held another Tabernacles conference, this time for a full 8 days, in Hayward, Wisconsin, about 50 miles southeast of Duluth. Just before the start of that conference, on October 15, 2016, my wife and I were led to drive to Duluth and cross the bridge connecting Duluth, MN with Superior, WI. The bridge, we knew, represented the Door.

6 It was a most unusual election, full of surprises to the world.

7 The media was forced to report that Trump had won the election.

8 Obviously, this was about the media reporting something about Trump.

9 This will be as great a miracle as the election of Donald Trump.

10 This is a reference to Rudy Giuliani, who was mayor of NYC during the Twin Towers demolition in 2001. He will be given a cabinet post in the Trump administration.

11 Clement had already prophesied this a few months earlier in greater detail. See the next word.

12 Trump has been a nominal Presbyterian in past years. He has only recently discovered the power and value of prayer.

13 The people were fooled by the polls prior to the election.

14 This is why so many people hate Trump.

15 Trump’s stated intention is to build a wall of protection around America and to rebuild the economy. This prophecy suggests that he will succeed in both of these goals, although the outpouring of the Holy Spirit is the main reason for his success.

16 This is interesting. It means Trump will be elected again in 2020 and will be president until January of 2025.

17 The wording of this prophecy, dated April 4, 2007, suggests that Trump will not receive this baptism until after he enters office on January 20, 2017. The earlier word given February 10, 2007 says, “I shall fill Him with My Spirit when he goes into office.” Putting the two words together suggests that he will be filled with the Holy Spirit very soon after he is inaugurated, if not at the same time.

18 Hillary was not to be elected president. Note that this prophecy is dated January 14, 2006. Everyone knew at the time that she was going to run for president, but she lost the Democratic Party’s nomination to Obama in 2008. So this word was reserved for 8 years later.

19 This raises the question, “Can Jezebel be saved (in this life)?” The Old Testament pattern of Jezebel was that she was eaten by dogs, and that Ahab was killed by an arrow hitting him in the heart. There are often two ways, positive and negative, to fulfill a prophecy, because what is death under the Old Covenant is life under the New Covenant. For this reason, the 3,000 killed at Sinai (Exodus 32:28) in “the church in the wilderness” (Acts 7:38) can be compared to the 3,000 added to the church when the disciples came down from the upper room in Acts 2:41.

The “dogs” who ate Jezebel were literal, but in Scripture a dog is keleb (or Caleb, one of the overcomers) and signifies one who is faithful. A dog is a faithful companion. When we first discovered that dogs could be viewed as overcomers, we looked it up online and found that the American Kennel Association at that time (1996) recognized 153 breeds of dog. The number 153 means “sons of God,” because the numeric value of the phrase in Hebrew is precisely 153. This is also the meaning of the number in John 21:11, because once the disciples had learned to be “fishers of men,” they were able to bring the overcomers to Jesus.

As for the arrow in Ahab’s heart, arrows are sons (Psalm 127:4). It is possible that Bill Clinton, the modern Ahab, will also receive a message of Sonship in his heart that will bring death to his “old man” so that he may become a new creation in Christ.

Perhaps this is God’s “Mission Impossible.”

20 Rumors are now circulating that Hillary will divorce Bill, since she lost the election and has no further need for him.

21 Her child is Chelsea. Chelsea was the door opener for my recent revelation for the prayer campaign called Free the Children, which we held on November 6, 2016.

22 Hillary Clinton is known to be quite ill and may not have survived even one term as president. This suggests that she might be divinely healed during this coming outpouring of the Spirit.

23 Hillary’s conversion would certainly shake up the Democratic Party, which repudiated God during their recent convention. Imagine both Trump and Clinton being filled with the Spirit! That would certainly shake up the political world! Let us pray
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/22/16 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
This secret government (aka shadow government) is the current corrupt US establishment that has been in power since WW2. This secret government was backing Hilary. In an US election, typically both sides are backed by the secret government; however this wasn’t the case with Trump in the 2016 election. Trump was NOT part of the secret government, and that’s why the Republic party didn’t support Trump all along.

This Hillary defeat is also a defeat and an end of this Secret Government’s power over the US government.

If the "corrupt US establishment" was backing Hillary, why did Trump win?

He had his own money. He didn't need anyone to support financially his campaign.
Own money or not, if the "corrupt US establishment" was backing Hillary, no one else could win.

Unless it wasn't really "in power since WW2".
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/22/16 08:15 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Own money or not, if the "corrupt US establishment" was backing Hillary, no one else could win.

Unless it wasn't really "in power since WW2".

I think your deduction is not sound and very uninformed.

You probably missed these two posts dated Nov 13th on the previous page about the second American Revolution. According to Dr. Steve Pieczenik, who worked in the state department under 5 presidents, there was a coup and a counter-coup that happened during the election.

Originally Posted By: Elle
The unfolding scandals, silent coup, and the overthrow of Babylon-Jezebel

Nov 02, 2016
By Stephen Jones
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...abylon-jezebel/

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There is so much happening right now that it is impossible to report on all of it. But the most significant story right now is coming from Dr. Steve Pieczenik, who tells us that on November 1st the Clintons initiated a “silent coup” against the US government. He says that the “good guys” have also initiated a silent counter-coup through Julian Assange of Wikileaks to prevent this from happening. The CIA and FBI and perhaps even the NSA apparently have finally had enough.

Essentially, he is admitting that the email leaks, which Hillary is attributing to Russian president Putin, are actually being leaked by our own intelligence organizations.

So who is Steve Pieczenik? He is trained as a psychiatrist but worked for the US State Department and became a “specialist on hostage taking,” presumably, to profile terrorists. He has served under five presidents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik

[quote]Pieczenik is a Harvard University-trained psychiatrist and has a doctorate in international relations from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).[3]

Pie.[3] According to Pieczenik, he received a BA degree in Pre-Medicine and Psychology from Cornell in 1964, and later attended Cornell University Medical College. He attained his PhD in international relations from MIT while studying at Harvard Medical School.[4] Pieczenik claims to be the first psychiatrist ever to receive a PhD focusing on international relations.[5]

Pieczenik was Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance and James Baker.[3] His expertise includes foreign policy, international crisis management and psychological warfare.[7] He served the presidential administrations of Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush in the capacity of deputy assistant secretary.[8]

In 1974, Pieczenik joined the US State Department as a consultant to help in the restructuring of its Office for the Prevention of Terrorism.[2]

In 1976, Pieczenik was made Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for management.[2][5][9][10]

At the US State Department, he served as a "specialist on hostage taking".[11]


To hear what Pieczenik has to say, here are some short videos of him explaining this quiet coup and other things.

Part 1: (4:11)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM

Part 2: (2:43)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12zVlaZyX3Q

So if Dr. Pieczenik is telling the truth, his testimony is quite literally describing the divine court case of Nov. 1-8, 2001, which we called “You shall surely perish.” We could literally be seeing an entire change of government behind the scenes. Other reports claim that the original American Republic is being reconstituted, replacing the US Democracy that took over many years ago in the first big silent coup.

Most people are unaware of these things, because the schools do not teach the real history of America, nor do the newspapers reveal what is really going on secretly behind the scenes. But we know from our own study of history and prophecy that we have entered into the time (2014-2017) when Mystery Babylon’s time to rule has run out, and that Babylon (pictured as Jezebel) is falling. So we ought to expect to see major changes during this time frame, and the elections of 2016 appear to be a very significant event during this time.


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The second American Revolution
Nov 03, 2016
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/11-2016/the-second-american-revolution/

Dr. Steve Pieczenik was interviewed for about a half hour on Info Wars by Alex Jones. I personally don’t care for his bombastic style, and I wish he would just let Pieczenik talk without interrupting him and changing the subject. But it is what it is. Here is the interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zic64WhR14k

He talks more about the “civil coup” that Hillary Clinton and her allies have initiated to try to take over the agencies of the US government. He also makes it clear that certain elements in the 16 different intelligence communities have initiated a “counter coup” and will not accept her presidency, even if she wins the election.

If you listen closely, you will notice that there are opposing factions within the intelligence communities themselves—in particular, the CIA, which he calls the “Catholics In Action.”

He also says toward the end, “We will not accept Tim Kaine” as president. “He is part of the CIA, part of the nonsensical collusion… He works for Terry McAuliffe.” McAuliffe was a co-chairman of Bill Clinton’s re-election campaign in 1996 and became one of the directors of the Clinton Foundation in 2004.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_McAuliffe

The way Pieczenik talked gave me the impression that Tim Kaine works for the bad faction within the CIA.

He also says, “Obama came in through the CIA.” Again, he says, “He was a product of the CIA.” Pieczenik does not tell us if this was a good thing or a bad thing, but he advises Obama not to pardon Hillary or obstruct justice. Those who have instigated this “counter-coup” want to indict Hillary on charges of “bribery, corruption obstruction of justice, lying under oath, and most important, RICO,” or racketeering charges.

Huma Abedin, he says quite clearly, is a Saudi agent, recruited shortly after 1996 when she came back to the USA as a college student. His main concern is how she received top security clearance just two years after she returned to the United States. But he says that she is not the only foreign agent that has penetrated the government. Israel has also done the same, and Pieczenik identifies Michael Chertoff as one of their agents. Chertoff was the first one appointed to lead Homeland Security.

Alex Jones pushes the idea that the “Communist Chinese” are behind Hillary’s civil coup, because “Hillary is a Chinese agent.” Pieczenik affirms this, but it is clear that there is more than one Chinese faction as well. Hillary is an agent for the “Communist Chinese,” not the Chinese elders. Even so, he makes it clear that China as a nation is more interested in peaceful development of the world economy and its infrastructure. Their model is what the Dutch did in the 16th century (draining swampland with canals and windmills).

It is also of interest that Pieczenik has great respect for Chelsea Clinton. He says she tipped them off on the death of 10,000 Haitians that somehow were the responsibility of her parents. He says that she has had concerns about the Clinton Foundation. I have some read other reports about this as well, indicating that she has had a hand in the overthrow of her own mother’s political career, even though she publicly campaigns on her behalf. Pieczenik does not explain this further.

Overall, I think it is important to understand that in every organization and in every government, there are good people and bad people. When bad people are in power, the good suffer along with everyone else. Fortunately, the good people in the intelligence community did not resign. Instead, they worked behind the scenes and made plans for the future.

Pieczenik says that he wrote about the coup more than 20 years ago in his 1992 book, Maximum Vigilence. You can buy a used copy here for just 99 cents plus postage.

http://www.alibris.com/Maximum-Vigilance-Steve-R-Pieczenik/book/4245774

For him to bring this up in this interview shows that he had been thinking about a counter-coup for a long time. Writing novels is a good way to express ideas and even to formulate plans. Alex Jones tells us that Pieczenik co-wrote the Tom Clancy novels as well.

The bottom line is that we have to take what Dr. Steve Pieczenik says very seriously. He is not a conspiracy theorist wannabe trying to make a name for himself. He is an educated professional who has worked for decades in government circles and with the intelligence agencies. If he says that Hillary Clinton (and her backers) have initiated a “civil coup,” I have no right to dispute this. If he says that certain factions in the intelligence community have initiated a “counter coup,” I have no choice but to believe this as well.

This is not just bluster and bravado. This is a second American Revolution, which he says is the most important event in American history since the original American Revolution in 1776.

Would such an important event come upon us unexpectedly? Is there no prophecy about this? Is there no revelation about it that might give us warning ahead of time to confirm it? I cannot speak for others, but I can say that we got revelation about it in 2001, though we did not know exactly what we were seeing or doing. The divine court decree on October 28, 2001, which resulted in the court battle from Nov. 1-8, 2001, has surfaced 15 years later in 2016, according to the pattern of Hezekiah. We have suspected this and have been watching and wondering about this since the beginning of the year.

Full proof of this should be seen by watching events on November 5 and 8. If I am reading this correctly, Hillary Clinton should either resign or drop out of the race for some reason on November 5. That should be the most important date in this current situation. There is always a certain level of uncertainty as to how to interpret spiritual events that were established in the past, because until we arrive at the moment of truth. Until the spiritual events begin to emerge into the world, we don’t know how the story will play out or even who the players will be.

But now it seems clear that the Ahab/Bill Clinton events ended on September 11, 2001, and then the scene shifted to Jezebel/Hillary Clinton, beginning with our prayer campaign and the divine court case, "You shall surely perish," on November 1-8, 2001. It appears that we are now at the culmination of her career, and that she will soon be tossed out of the political window, following the Jezebel pattern in Scripture.

All of this is the next (interim) step in the progression of history leading to the rise of the Stone Kingdom.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/23/16 05:05 PM


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Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/01/16 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Own money or not, if the "corrupt US establishment" was backing Hillary, no one else could win.

Unless it wasn't really "in power since WW2".

I think your deduction is not sound and very uninformed.

I'm distinguishing a difference between in power and temporarily in power. For if someone was truly in power, there is no other who could come in. Until they are no more in power. And I question then, if they were in power or only temporarily allowed at the helm.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/01/16 04:40 PM

Regarding the past mention of the luni-solar calendar:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_calendar
Counting from the new moon, the Babylonians celebrated every seventh day as a "holy-day", also called an "evil-day" (meaning "unsuitable" for prohibited activities) .
... On each of them, offerings were made to a different god and goddess, apparently at nightfall to avoid the prohibitions: Merodach and Ishtar on the 7th, Ninlil and Nergal on the 14th, Sin and Shamash on the 21st, and Enki and Mah on the 28th.
...
Among other theories of Shabbat origin, the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia advanced a theory of Assyriologists like Friedrich Delitzsch[2] that Shabbat originally arose from the lunar cycle,[3][4] containing four weeks ending in Sabbath, plus one or two additional unreckoned days per month.[5] The difficulties of this theory include reconciling the differences between an unbroken week and a lunar week, and explaining the absence of texts naming the lunar week as Shabbat in any language.[6]


So if you embrace that, would you not be of the Babylonian character rather than the non-Biblical idea of banking?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/03/16 07:15 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Regarding the past mention of the luni-solar calendar

Sorry, I have no idea what you're referring to. Please provide link of the past discussion we had to give me an idea.

I'm not a "luni-solar calendar" believer. You may be confusing with someone else. I told you in the past in some other discussion that the Lord created all calendars and works in reference to any one of them if He pleases for executing whatever He wants on His appointed time ... of course He always works within the limit of His own Laws and the types He has establish in history. There's many time cyclic patterns He has established in the past that He works with including our Julian calendar.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/03/16 08:38 PM

My comment : Below is a good compilation of the "potential fuses" to be lit to cause the collapse. These listed fuses explains some history and the problems. As Willem Middelkoop has mention in his interview, that the Chinese are not in a hurry and are long term planners. Willem thinks it's going to take around 40 years for the RESET transition to occur slowly and gradually.

I do expect that it will take some good time to fix this mess and have it functioning, tested, and bugs resolved.

Jim Willie has been stressing, that it is in the interest of the Chinese (and other countries who holds worthless US Treasury Notes) to extend the crash further down the road so they have more time to convert these worthless US Treasury notes to something that will retain its value.

Jim said : "When the collapse occurs, the solution will finally be discussed, the solution avoided for eight full years. THE GOLD STANDARD WILL BE INSTALLED. It will first arrive in the trade payment system. Then it will arrive in the banking reserves system. Lastly it will be seen in the gold backed currencies."

So Jim thinks the Gold Standard will come in 3 phases :

First : the trade payment system : This is the bilateral agreements between any two countries where the US Dollar is being removed as the trading currencies and will be replaced with an agreed International Gold based trade note where they are talking of setting the gold price to a starting $5000/oz.

Second : the banking reserves system : Major reform are currently being made at this level since 2012. The BRICS Development Bank and the AIIB and other newly created Banks needs to be able to facilitate the transactions of the new bilateral Agreements based on some sort of gold backed international note.

Third : the gold backed currencies : All currencies will undergo re-evaluation and a new gold backed currency will be distributed to the public. It will be interesting to see when the people will have the new rainbow colored dollar in their hands.

Criss-Crossed Fuses And Lit Bonfire

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1480267729.php

By Jim Willie
Sunday, 27 November 2016

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Many are the potential fuses to be lit, which would create the conflagration, the massive bonfire of the bond vanities and bank charades. Many are the fuses lying around, all criss-crossed, all exposed, all overlapping each other in highly dangerous manner. If any single fuse is lit, then several will light and the detonation arrives. It is unavoidable since the financial world is so deeply interwoven. Never in modern history has the global financial structure been so badly weakened, so totally corrupted, so thoroughly undermined by control mechanisms, so intensely defended by sanctions even war. In 2007 and early 2008, the Jackass warned of a mortgage bust that would alter the global system forever. It happened with far reaching consequences which endure to this day. In recent months the Jackass is warning of a Systemic Lehman event, where several major national systems are at heightened risk of a similar bust like what happened in September 2008. Except this time, the entire global financial system will erupt like a debt volcano, with several epicenters, all located in the West. The big Western banks are all lashed together, all tied to each other. The banker cabal believed that the interconnectivity within their bank structures would make them all immune to failure risk. The reality is that the failure of any one major bank guarantees the systemic breakdown of all of them. It will erupt like a cave-in of the flying buttresses at the Notre Dame in Paris, with numerous bank (churches) collapsing, all located in the West.

FINAL SOLUTION
When the collapse occurs, the solution will finally be discussed, the solution avoided for eight full years. THE GOLD STANDARD WILL BE INSTALLED. It will first arrive in the trade payment system. Then it will arrive in the banking reserves system. Lastly it will be seen in the gold backed currencies. The paper game has gone on since 2008 in grand style and unspeakable corruption.

This article attempts to list many threats to a systemic breakdown from ignition of several megatons of TNT dynamite. The financial press has often mentioned derivatives as capable of inflicting damage and devastation like with nuclear explosions. The systemic breakdown is due to occur soon, actually way overdue to occur. The prevention has been a massive global project run by the major central banks in coordination with a few ministries of finance. The primary control center is the USDept Treasury and their Exchange Stabilization Fund. This truly gigantic multi-$trillion fund is a very well-kept secret. Its recent activity has been to permit the USTreasury Bond yield to rise, but without pushing down the sacred USDollar. Not much mention has come from the sleepy lapdog financial press on this unusual anomaly. The motive is to keep the Japanese happy, since they are the last holdout among the $1 trillion USGovt debt holders. The Chinese are dumping USTBonds, but the United States cannot afford for Japan to dump USTBonds at the same time.

TOO MANY CRISS-CROSSED FUSES EXPOSED
The following are numerous potential lit fuses, with brief descriptions of the risk and effect. It is in no way complete as a list, but it might be somewhat comprehensive. No attempt will be made to be very thorough in the description of each potential fuse. That role is played with the Hat Trick Letter, with fallout effects discussed and analyzed in more thorough fashion.

Deutsche Bank failure
The actual failure has been going on for at least a couple years. Recall that D-Bank unwillingly accepted the merger & acquisition of Bankers Trust back in 1998. It became the European outpost for the rafts and scads of bank derivatives, managed outside the United States, free from regulation. The giant German bank has a net worth of around minus $1000 billion, or minus EUR 1000 billion, no matter the unit. All manner of relief and patchwork and emergency liquidity and false accounting and total lies are associated with this giant cesspool of a bank. They hold all types of ruined paper debt, and hold a mountain of Gold contracts which China wants to acquire. The New York and London crime center banks are vulnerable. When it blows out of control, the Western banks go poof and the USDollar dies.

USFed rate hike
The USFed might not be able to avoid an official rate hike. Ignore the fake rate hike in December 2015, which was really a Reverse REPO episode well concealed. That event permitted more leverage by the big US banks. In the last few months, the USTreasury Bond yields are all rising, including the short maturity. The long maturity might cause a derivative accident soon, since the Tower of Bond Babel cannot tolerate the big moves seen. The USFed might have to hike rates a notch, just to keep the short maturity of the USTreasurys from fracturing. But the long maturity is also at risk. When the hike comes, the Western banks go poof and the USDollar dies.

USDollar rejection in trade payments
The United States has been paying for its massive $500 billion trade deficit with paper IOU rubbish certificates called USTreasury Bills. The US nation has been a freeloader for over 20 years, lacking critical mass in industry, covering the bills with printed money of no intrinsic value. The Asian producers object loudly. In the last year, many foreign producers have been rejecting the USDollar as payment. Bobcat Inc (warehouse forklifts, construction backhoes) is only the most visible. The port facility confusion and mayhem is given too much attribution to the Hanjin Shipping bankruptcy. The truth is that the USTBill is being rejected as valid payment, despite the many empty disputes of this claim. The other shoe from those American feet is the end of the USDollar as global currency reserve. When the rejection is more broadly understood and openly discussed, the Western banks go poof and the USDollar dies.

USTreasury Bond complex bust with derivative
The bank derivatives are a $700 trillion set of buttresses, which if capably observed, would frighten the wits out of all people who have bank accounts. They are heavily leveraged contracts which hold the financial system together like glue, but lately more like chewing gum and bailing wire. These toxic units are called assets, while bank accounts are called liabilities subject to loss and confiscation (see bail-in procedures). The derivatives cannot tolerate big movements in bond yields. They serve as the site to produce artificial bond demand for the USGovt debt, whose supply is between $1.0 and $1.4 trillion per year, but without benefit of actual real investor buyers. The Asian bond dumping has put huge strains on the derivative machinery, which cannot sustain the pressure. The derivative jig is up very soon, to reveal a massive Ponzi Scheme in USGovt debt that exceeds $20 trillion without much attention or importance given to it. When the derivative complex shows wider cracks and open gushes of bond blood, the Western banks go poof and the USDollar dies.

Italian bank collapse & exit from Common Euro Currency
The Italians have a national referendum coming up very soon. The decision to push PM Renzi aside and to go on a more independent defiant path seems imminent. All his opponents have a common theme, to bail out the banks and to exit the Euro currency, which means a return to the Old Lira currency. The implications are staggering and lethal to the sovereign bond market in Southern Europe, since the PIGS all look alike. The dire implication is to the big European banks, primarily the French and German big banks. When the Italians flip the bird to the Euro Central Bank and their big bank masters, refusing to endure the financial rape as seen in Greece, the continent will undergo widespread tumult. Leaving the Euro currency must coincide with leaving the European Union itself. Key EU leaders are certain to leave en masse, much like in the style of Schultz recently. When Italy bails out its banks and leaves the Euro currency, the Western banks go poof and the USDollar dies.

Contagion in Europe in the Southern nations
Greece could follow Italy quickly out of the common Euro currency, even with exit from the European Union. After neighbor Turkey’s intriguing stability course and success, the Greek nation might quickly fall into the arms of Russia and China. The military security from Russia combined with the commercial security from China is a significant attraction. The EU masters have raped Greece, and they wish to leave the bedroom, even the European house. Worse, Portugal could be a dark horse in the unfolding takedown of the EU. When the contagion strikes and the fracture occurs among the PIGS pen, the Western banks go poof and the USDollar dies.

European Sovereign Bond Carnage
For the last three years or more, the Euro Central Bank has been quietly, and recently not so secretly, been supporting the entire Southern European sovereign bond market. The Germans at the Bundesbank were loud in objections in 2014, but they grew quiet. The Germans despise the ECB arrogance, and greatly dislike the ruin heaped upon them by the EU itself. The EuroCB has a higher order mission and marching orders from the elite fascists. The Italian Govt debt insurance is rising fast in price, a reliable early warning system much like seen in 2008 with Lehman Brothers CDSwap. The press ignored the signal in 2007, and again ignores it now. The EuroCB activity will backfire in a bonfire of the bond vanities, exposing Prince Draghi for his incredibly offensive arrogance. His paper castle will be taken down. The entire PIGS sovereign debt will break down and go bust, taking with it many large European banks, starting with the PIGS pen but extending into Central Europe. The strangulation of the REPO markets will result in huge liquidity and collateral issues. When the bond carnage begins in earnest, the shock wave will be clear, and the Western banks go poof and the USDollar dies.

http://goldseek.com/news/GoldenJackass/2016/11-27gj.jpg

Gold Market Arbitrage Breakdown
Ever since the Shanghai Gold Exchange opened and the London Gold Fix was exposed as a grand fraud, the pressures have risen on arbitrage within the gold market. A hidden battle has been waged, sometimes intense with big gaps, often mild with smaller gaps, between the East and West. The arbitrage gap is currently around US$20-25 per ounce in price, but could change quickly and suddenly. It is likely to rise to hundreds of dollars, but gradually, and later perhaps in large chunk increments. The result will be the wreckage of paper Gold & Silver markets. Big players would be free to buy cheap in London, sell dear in Shanghai, and bust the fraudulent market wide open. When the gold market arbitrage undergoes a collision between reality of physical gold in movement and the fantasy of phony paper market pricing, the Western banks go poof and the USDollar dies.

Gold-backed currency announced in East
It is really just a matter of time. The de-Dollarization process underway in the East has been going on for over two years, another Jackass forecast coming to pass. The United States with its wars and sanctions has spurred the non-USD movement in earnest, if not hidden hyper-drive. Both Russia and China simultaneously will soon announce Gold backed currencies, while also making public their true gold holdings in the tens of thousands of gold tons. The buzz has been clear for a couple years that Russia has over 25,000 tons gold in reserves, and China has over 30,000 tons gold in reserves. When the new gold-backed currencies are announced, publicized, launched, used in commerce & banking, and compared to the Western toilet paper passing as currency, the Western banks go poof and the USDollar dies.

Saudi acceptance of RMB in Chinese oil sales
The event is overdue, except that the Saudis are tied in two ways. They own a boatload of sequestered USTreasury Bonds, held tightly in the USDept Tresasury ESFund. Tough noogies but the Saudis will never see $3 trillion in their USTBond reserves. Also, more on the ugly tarnished side, the Saudis depend upon the USMilitary for weapons purchases in their insidious Yemen War. Regardless of bondage to the US fascists, the Saudis must move forward. The Chinese are demanding the right to make oil payments in their RMB currency terms. Look soon afterwards for the Chinese to use Gold Trade Notes, possibly as an introduction in the oil market. Doing so would slam the Petro-Dollar defacto standard in force for 42 years, putting numerous nails in the USDollar coffin. The collapse in crude oil prices would result in a breakdown of the recent OPEC output freeze. When the Saudis announce acceptance of RMB payments for Chinese oil sales, the Western banks go poof and the USDollar dies.

Miscellaneous factors
Many other factors are too numerous to list, but which could also bring about the systemic breakdown described above. They are far more numerous than the following, but these are major items. The NATO alliance might be dismantled. Either publicity of its warmonger nature or its narcotics trafficking activity could bring this event about. The EU member nations object to taking orders from the Supreme Commander, trampling upon the national sovereign leadership. Then NATO would publically become irrelevant, and lead to USMilitary withdrawal from mainland Europe, save for a token unit like in Germany. Also, the ISIS exposure could explode on the scene for USGovt involvement, Mossad involvement, and even British MI-6 involvement. ISIS is a joint creation from these three national security centers, adopted from the Axis of Global Fascism. The defeat of the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq could lead to an explosion of sporadic attacks across the entire European continent. For staged terror events, see Paris, Brussels, and Nice. Another, the growing discontent and stirred racial violence in the United States might couple with political stirred violence, coming from the Soros funded groups. Riots in the United States could result in USEconomic stagnation and severe effects in consequence. These other lesser but important factors could stoke the fires, and lead to chaos as the Western banks go poof and the USDollar dies.

GOLD TRADE NOTE INTRODUCTION
The Gold Trade Notes for trade payment might be coming into view, initially with commodity transfers, later swap contracts, and finally gold-backed short-term notes which supplant the USTBill. One might think of used newspapers on the floor, or of the dodo bird. The trade might be made in exchange for either goods delivered or USTBills held. Detect a growing connection to finished goods being withheld from delivery. This is probably another sign of refusal of USTBills as payment. As footnote, be sure to know that the preliminary steps to the Global Currency RESET will not be laid out in full disclosure for public benefit. It represents a tremendous investment opportunity for the elite, which they never tend to share. In fact, the RESET might be well along before it is even recognized. End to EuroRaj main thoughts and open analysis, for which much gratitude is given. The Jackass believes a few critical elements to the RESET are in place. More details on DIP Financing feature is included in the September Hat Trick Letter report.

***A major hitch obstacle can be inferred. Payment in USD terms might be the clot in the artery. Demands might be for hard asset swaps, and the contract security from large scale commitment of commodities, facilities, and property. The swap trade is coming into view, a presage of the Gold Trade Note.***

The Jackass concludes the USD rejection could be lifting its head within a gathering storm, without clear identification. It is indeed difficult to identify all the elements when hidden deals at the highest level are underway, and friction is omnipresent. The Bobcat Corp rejection of USTBills at Pacific ports is a clear story. For every one story recounted, there are 10 to 20 not yet heard. My firm belief is that in Asian banking systems, they do not want the USTBills anymore. The banks in Asia are trying to dump them in heavy volume, not accumulate more worthless toilet paper. Finally the sharp blowback from printing QE money has hit. The USFed monetary policy saves the big insolvent banks, but kills capital. The result has finally seen manifested in USD global rejection, or at least hints toward the same. Asian banks still hold vast sums of USTBonds. They are not going to announce the rejection, but instead fight behind the walls for better terms of payment, even as they pursue the Gold Trade Note for payment at ports. It is coming, like daybreak follows the long night.

NEW SCHEISS DOLLAR & GOLD TRADE STANDARD
In time, expect an eventual refusal by Eastern producing nations to accept USTreasury Bills in payment for trade. The IMF reversal decision assures this USTBill blockade in time, and might accelerate the timetable. The United States Govt cannot continue on five glaring fronts of gross negligence and major violations. These violations have prompted the BRICS & Alliance nations to hasten their development of diverse non-USD platforms toward the goal of displacing the USDollar while at the same time take steps toward the return of the Gold Standard.

The New Scheiss Dollar will arrive in order to assure continued import supply to the USEconomy. It will be given a 30% devaluation out of the gate, then many more devaluations of similar variety. The New Dollar will fail all foreign and Eastern scrutiny. The USGovt will be forced to react to USTBill rejection at the ports. The US must accommodate with the New Scheiss Dollar in order to assure import supply, and to alleviate the many stalemates to come. The United States finds itself on the slippery slope that leads to the Third World, a Jackass forecast that has been presented since Lehman fell (better described as killed by JPM and GSax). The only apparent alternative is for the United States Govt to lease a large amount of gold bullion (like 10,000 tons) from China in order to properly launch a gold-backed currency. Doing so would open the gates for a generation of commercial colonization, but actual progress in returning capitalism to the United States. The cost would be supply shortages to the USEconomy, a result of enormous export increases to China.

The colonization has already begun, with secret deals galore. It is very unclear what deals are being struck in order to arrange for the USGovt to have a proper gold reserve hoard, for backing a new legitimate USDollar. Meetings at very high level are in progress, with little if any popular representation, only elite members present. Failure to produce a legitimate bonafide gold-backed currency would mean the United States must proceed with the New Scheiss Dollar, an illegitimate fake phony farce of a currency. It would be subjected to a series of devaluations. The result would be heavy powerful painful price inflation from the import front. The effect would be to reverse a generation of exported inflation by the United States. The entire USEconomy would go into a downward spiral with higher prices, supply shortages, and social disorder. However, the rising prices would come from the currency crisis, and not so much from the hyper monetary inflation. That flood of $trillions has been effectively firewalled off.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/05/16 08:28 PM

My comment : I've been waiting to see what position Trump would give Carson. This news could be prophetic for the SDA Church??? I really don't know, and am only wondering(speculating) out loud.

Anyway, I think this is really good news for our Church [besides the recent excellent Gibson's Movie about Desmond Doss].

Only the first 3 paragraphs are interesting. I need some help to understand a statement made below by Trump. I have enlarged the font of that section of the emphasized texted below.

What does this statement "and is part of ensuring that this is a Presidency representing all Americans" means to you? Anyone?

Trump Nominates Ben Carson As Housing Secretary
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-05/trump-nominates-ben-carson-housing-secretary

Dec 5, 2016

Quote:
Donald Trump announced his plans early Monday to nominate Dr. Ben Carson to lead the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).

“Ben Carson has a brilliant mind and is passionate about strengthening communities and families within those communities,” Trump said in a statement distributed by his transition team. “We have talked at length about my urban renewal agenda and our message of economic revival, very much including our inner cities. Ben shares my optimism about the future of our country and is part of ensuring that this is a Presidency representing all Americans. He is a tough competitor and never gives up,” Trump added.

“I feel that I can make a significant contribution particularly by strengthening communities that are most in need," Carson, a former GOP presidential candidate who became a Trump supporter, said in the statement. "We have much work to do in enhancing every aspect of our nation and ensuring that our nation’s housing needs are met.”

Confirming once again that political statements are never to be taken at face value, Armstrong Williams, Carson's campaign manager and a close friend, told The Hill last month that the retired neurosurgeon was not interested in serving as Trump’s secretary of Health and Human Services. "Dr. Carson feels he has no government experience, he's never run a federal agency. The last thing he would want to do was take a position that could cripple the presidency,” Williams said at the time.

A few weeks later he changed his mind.

In other Trump team news, the WSJ confirmed a rumor that was floated last week, when it reported that Trump is widening the circle of candidates for secretary of state and will interview more prospects this week, transition officials said, a sign that after multiple meetings with high-profile hopefuls he still isn’t sold on whom he wants as the nation’s top diplomat.

Though Mr. Trump’s transition team said last week that the search had narrowed to four finalists, new candidates have emerged, including Rex Tillerson, chairman and chief executive of Exxon Mobil Corp., one transition adviser said. Mr. Tillerson is scheduled to meet with Mr. Trump for an interview this week. Alan Jeffers, an Exxon spokesman, declined to comment.

Mr. Tillerson, 64 years old, grew up in Texas and joined Exxon in 1975. He leads a company with operations in more than 50 countries, from Canada to Papua New Guinea, that often exerts itself abroad with the sweep of a sovereign nation. He is slated to retire next year and Exxon has identified Darren Woods as a successor.

As Exxon’s CEO since 2006, Mr. Tillerson could leverage existing relationships with numerous world leaders, including Russia’s Vladimir Putin, with whom he has had dealings for more than a decade.

Mr. Tillerson’s close ties to the company, including tens of millions of dollars of Exxon shares that will become available to him in the coming decade, could complicate his efforts to lift sanctions or intervene in trade disputes where Exxon has a financial interest. It would be almost impossible for him to recuse himself from working with all the countries in which Exxon operates or markets products.

Mr. Tillerson’s corporate pedigree would make him an unconventional choice, foreign policy analysts said. Jon Alterman, a Middle East expert at the nonpartisan Center for Strategic and International Studies, noted that former Secretary of State John Foster Dulles was a lawyer at a top New York City firm, but not a CEO, and that George Shultz was president of Bechtel Corp., but also served in government.

As head of a company with a massive global footprint, Mr. Tillerson, though, is no stranger to foreign leaders. As Exxon’s chief executive, he has spoken against sanctions on Russia, where the company in 2012 signed a $3.2 billion deal that Mr. Putin said could eventually reach $500 billion in investments.

Mr. Tillerson has some of the closest ties among U.S. CEOs to Mr. Putin and Russia, with his work there dating back to when Mr. Putin rose to power after Boris Yeltsin’s resignation. The 2012 deal gave Exxon access to prized arctic resources. Later that year, the Kremlin bestowed the country’s Order of Friendship on the American businessman.

Mr. Tillerson supported a Trump rival in the Republican primaries: Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. He gave the maximum $2,700 to the Bush campaign, and another $5,000 to the Right to Rise, the super PAC that backed Mr. Bush. He didn’t make a contribution to Mr. Trump’s campaign, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks political giving.
Vice President-elect Mike Pence, appearing Sunday on NBC, said the list of secretary of state candidates “might grow a little bit.”

On Sunday evening, Mr. Trump’s transition officials said another candidate for both secretary of state and energy secretary is Sen. Joe Manchin (D., W.Va.). The conservative Democrat would add a bipartisan dimension to the Trump cabinet if chosen.

Kellyanne Conway, a senior Trump adviser, told reporters Sunday: “It is true that he’s broadened the search…He’s very fortunate to have interest among serious men and women who, all of whom need to understand that their first responsibility as secretary of state would be to implement and adhere to the president-elect’s America First foreign policy, if you will, his view of the world.”

A final decision could come by week’s end, the transition adviser said.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/05/16 08:41 PM

Unless I have you confused with someone else, remember MM was questioning about interruption of the 7 day weekly cycle because of the new moon? So set me right - do you believe the moon in no way affects the 7 day weekly Sabbath?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/05/16 08:56 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Unless I have you confused with someone else, remember MM was questioning about interruption of the 7 day weekly cycle because of the new moon? So set me right - do you believe the moon in no way affects the 7 day weekly Sabbath?

Yes you are confusing me with someone else for I never got involved much in such types of discussion in this forum. I have no clue what discussion or topic you are referring at or what position MM took versus yours versus this other person you are mistaken me for.

So in another word -- sorry but I dunno
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/06/16 03:12 AM

Kland, I thought this post was timely and for you explaining about different cycle and how it plays out year after year. You may think this is a little weird and you are right ... it is weird; but this is
one way the Lord communicates what He is doing to His people.

Anyway, it is a very interesting read and let us see what happens in this year time cycle.

Prophecy for a New America

Dec 05, 2016

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/12-2016/prophecy-for-a-new-america/

Quote:
There was an interesting prophecy in 1981 that appears to be nearly completed.

https://unitedstatesprophecy.com/visions-dreams-and-prophecies-for-america/

“When you see that the Berlin wall comes down and when you see the Soviet Union take a severe blow then it makes a recovery, and then you see the death of Fidel Castro; then shall come the collapse of the economic system of the United States.”

The Berlin Wall came down on November 9, 1989.

The Soviet Union officially dissolved December 31, 1991

The USSR was replaced by Russia, which recovered after President Putin took leadership.

Fidel Castro, age 90, died November 25, 2016 and was buried December 4, 2016.

Next, according to this, is “the collapse of the economic system of the United States.”

My Analysis

But keep in mind that prophecy is usually misunderstood. In this case, there are different ways in which a “collapse of the economic system” could take place. No doubt most assume that this means very difficult days ahead, with the dollar collapsing, high unemployment, and stock market crashes. But there are other ways to view this.

First, it is not the economy itself that is supposed to collapse, but rather “the economic system.” The system is how things are administered or the laws on which the economy are based. It could mean that the Federal Reserve System is going to be replaced by something else. This would actually be positive, rather than negative, although the old owners of the system would probably put up a fight, causing some temporary disruptions.

The 1981 prophecy above suggests that the death of Fidel Castro is perhaps the final major sign of the coming change in our economic system. I find it curious that this prophecy was given in 1981, the same year that my real story began. In fact, my “crucifixion day” at Las Cruces, New Mexico, occurred on December 4, 1981, and 35 years later Fidel Castro was buried on the same date. Coincidence? Maybe—if you believe in such coincidences.

But as for me, that original pattern of dates from November 12, 1981 until January 30, 1982 is currently being re-run in 2016-2017. I have seen reruns many times over the years, each having different actors on the stage. Each rerun overlays a few new details in the mix. For example, in the 1981-1982 pattern, the main theme was death (Passover, crucifixion). A year later the main theme was resurrection, as I came out of the “wilderness” into a new life.

In both cases, December 4 was crucial. In 1981 it marked the time of “death,” and in 1982 it marked the time I began to rise from the dead.

The pattern was a microcosm of a much bigger picture, as God required me (as an intercessor) to experience the death of others in order to come out the other end in resurrection. This experience itself was a prophecy that others would also be raised up in similar fashion. Of course, I was unaware of the prophetic significance of this until a year later when it was revealed in January of 1984. At that time God led me to Ezekiel 4:5, and when I expressed frustration at my lack of understanding, He told me to “count the days,” and I then discovered (by the timing) that I had been called as an intercessor.

Ezekiel 4:5 speaks of the prophet lying on his left side for 390 days as an intercessor for the house of Israel. My 390-day cycle began on December 30, 1981 when we physically drove out of Las Cruces, officially beginning the “wilderness” period. It ended 390 days later, on January 23, 1983, when we arrived in Batesville, Arkansas to begin a new life.

A year later, on January 23, 1984 the Lord revealed the 390-day cycle to me, and then I began to understand what had happened. I was an intercessor the church. In fact, I also discovered that I had undergone a 40-day period immediately after the 390-day cycle had ended. Recall that Ezekiel had been called to lie on his right side for 40 days (Ezekiel 4:6). This 40-day cycle was revealed on February 5, 1983, and it applied to February 28 to April 8. I had to travel during that time on an intercessory trip for “church leaders.”

Even so, I did not realize at the time that this had been patterned upon Ezekiel 4:6. Only a year later did this revelation come to me.

Then in late 1985 and early 1986 the same pattern emerged once again, as the Lord enlarged upon the theme of death and resurrection. This time it involved Pastor Thomas in Batesville, Arkansas. In June of 1985 we had been instructed by the Lord to pray 3 months for “revival,” and in the middle of that time the church began to experience this. Most of the church members received the baptism of the Holy Spirit, but the pastor himself was still resistant.

On December 1, 1985 the Lord showed me that we were again experiencing the same earlier pattern and that he was going to leave the church on December 30. I knew this, because I had left the church in Las Cruces on December 30, 1981, and a year later on the same day I had received a telephone call offering me a job in Batesville, Arkansas. Hence, December 30 was a “leave” date. So I knew he was planning to “leave” four weeks later on December 30, 1985.

Well, he did. We were having a men’s meeting that Monday evening, and about 9 pm the pastor suddenly stood up, turned to our host, and said to him, “All I want is the communion table, because that was my mother’s.” He then stormed out of the meeting and slammed the door behind him. Everyone was stunned, even though most of them knew what I had told them ahead of time. In fact, three of us at the meeting had prayed and fasted for the pastor that same day.

The next evening, as we prepared to go to our New Year’s Eve prayer meeting, I asked the Lord what the problem was—other than the fact that he was resistant to the Holy Spirit. He gave me 1 Corinthians 11:30, “For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.”

It was then my turn to be stunned, because on December 29, the day before the pastor left the church, he had taken communion with us. In that church, we did not take communion weekly, nor even monthly. In fact, there was no particular schedule. But it appears that Pastor Thomas had decided to have one final communion before leaving the church.

The problem is that communion is “common union,” and it is a covenant of fellowship with Christ and with each other. He took communion “unworthily” (1 Corinthians 11:29 KJV), because he was planning to break fellowship with us. So when God gave me this answer, I immediately saw that the pastor had “died” according to the word: “and many sleep.”

This revelation stressed me, because I had been quite close to him. He was even a father figure to me. So I asked the Lord what could be done about it. Was there nothing we could do? We knew from other prophetic time cycles that his actual death was scheduled for April 12, 1986, which was just a few months away.

The Lord then told me, “he needs someone with the authority to raise the dead.”

I then knew the solution to the problem, for two months earlier, on November 10, 1985, I had been to a church about 55 miles away and had been led to anoint that pastor with the authority to raise the dead. The precise word of the Lord was: “By his hand I will raise the dead.” At the time, I had been totally embarrassed by the situation, not wanting to make a fool of myself in a strange church. But I did as I was instructed and then left as quickly as I could.

But then on December 31, I knew that he (Pastor Joe) had been anointed to raise Pastor Thomas from the dead before he died on April 12. This, I knew, would cancel his death warrant. But I did not know when a meeting could be arranged between the two pastors. Nor did it seem possible, and even if it were to happen, would Pastor Thomas really agree to receive the Holy Spirit??

Well, a few days after this revelation, in early January 1986, a vice-president of the company where I worked (who had been at the meeting when Pastor Thomas left the church), came into my office and asked me: “Well, Mr. Jones, what’s going to happen next?”

Of course, I did not know until he asked, because he drew the answer out of my spirit. “Pastor Thomas is going to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit on January 27, and it will be administered by Pastor Joe.”

The VP laughed and said, “Not in a million years!”

But it did happen. January 27 was one of the key dates from the 1982 and 1983 patterns of death and resurrection—specifically the 1983 pattern as I was coming out of my wilderness (death) experience. I had arrived in Batesville on January 23, but I had flown to New Mexico on January 30 in order to pick up all of our furniture that had been in storage for over a year. I had understood at the time that the flight was symbolic of my resurrection and ascension.

So three years later, on January 27, 1986, Pastor Joe decided to come to Batesville, wanting to meet with us. We hastily arranged a meeting at the same house where Pastor Thomas had left the church a few weeks earlier. This was the first time that I had seen Pastor Joe since I had anointed him with the authority to raise the dead (November 10, 1985).

I called Pastor Thomas and told him the situation. I told him frankly that I had discerned some time ago that Pastor Joe was the one called to administer the baptism of the Holy Spirit to him, and that he was coming to meet with us that evening. “You are welcome to come, if you want,” I said, “and if not, we will understand.”

Well, he came, and he received the Holy Spirit. In fact, as he told us afterward, he was so drunk on the Holy Spirit that it reminded him of his old alcoholic days in his youth.

But Pastor Thomas was also a type of King Saul. Saul was crowned on the day of wheat harvest (i.e., Pentecost), as we read in 1 Samuel 12:17. He was also filled with the Spirit (1 Samuel 10:6, 10, 11). Saul was a type of the church under Pentecost, which was why he was numbered among the prophets, but Pentecost is also a leavened feast (Leviticus 23:17). This is why he set the pattern for the authoritarian, rebellious church that was yet to come.

The fact that Pastor Thomas was a type of Saul worked to his disadvantage, because just two weeks later, on February 9, 1986 he reverted back to his original authoritarian problem as a Saul type. (That story is too long to explain here.) As a result, we did not know what would happen to him on April 12. Yet the Lord assured us that we have “saved his life” by our intercession.

As it turned out, Pastor Thomas burned himself very badly on April 12 and was forced to retire shortly after that. The doctor told him he was very lucky to be alive. He died on February 9, 2008 after living another 22 years, much like King Saul had died 22 years after he was rejected as king for sparing King Agag (1 Samuel 15:9, 11, 22, 23, 26).

The incident happened in Saul’s 18th year, and he died in his 40th year, 22 years later.

Present Application

These patterns (especially this 30-year pattern from 1986-2016) seem to be applicable this year (2016). November 14 was the start of this year’s two 76-day cleansing cycles. The first 76-day cycle goes from November 14 to January 28/29, 2016. This year it appears that Donald Trump is playing the role of King Saul, even as Pastor Thomas did in 1985-1986. The theme of resurrection and the baptism of the Holy Spirit could very well emerge, if Kim Clement’s prophecies about Trump come to pass.

Clement prophesied in 2006 that Donald Trump would be filled with the Spirit after he came into office. That sounds a lot like Pastor Thomas in 1986, and the date of January 27-29 this year is after Trump comes into office. So that is the time to watch. We should look for a death of the old USA and the birth of something new, and perhaps the sign of this will be when Donald Trump is filled with the Spirit.

Of course, we never know exactly how these patterns will play out in real life. In the end, we have to wait and see what the Father does. But it is my hope (expectation) that before Trump could be filled with the Spirit, we ourselves ought to be experiencing the Holy Spirit in an increased manner. I expect to see the outpouring of the Holy Spirit come to us incrementally over a period of months, with special focus on certain watch dates derived from earlier patterns.

Further, since King Saul has been at the forefront of the earlier prophetic patterns, this could also turn out to be a mixed bag. I believe that those of us who are of the feast of Tabernacles will be blessed in a much greater way than those who cannot go beyond Pentecost. But an outpouring of the Spirit in America and the world would still be a welcome event, even if affects people differently according to their capacity to be filled.

The most important dates to watch would be December 30, January 17, 23, 27-30. As we draw near to these dates, the picture may become clearer, and I will share more at those times.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/07/16 09:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Unless I have you confused with someone else, remember MM was questioning about interruption of the 7 day weekly cycle because of the new moon? So set me right - do you believe the moon in no way affects the 7 day weekly Sabbath?

Yes you are confusing me with someone else for I never got involved much in such types of discussion in this forum. I have no clue what discussion or topic you are referring at or what position MM took versus yours versus this other person you are mistaken me for.

So in another word -- sorry but I dunno
Sorry, must have got you confused with some octopus or something. Guess I was seeing a downward progression of some feastkeepers to totally destroying the Sabbath and mistakenly thought it was you.


Regarding your prophecy link, you should always ask:
Is that true?

I have no way of knowing.
The Internet didn't exist in 1981.
Is there any other record or we should just take his word?
UNITEDSTATESPROPHECY.COM was listed as created in 27-sep-2008.
The above "prophecy" page first shows up on the website in 2013.

So I don't know what to make of such stuff.
I could create a website that says it was prophesied in 1900 the twin towers would fall because I saw it in an oil slick.

As others have said, lots of false profits out there. Don't believe everything you read.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/14/16 03:51 PM

Well it looks like it wasn't for you after all. That link was to give you another perspective how the Lord apply time cycle.

Yes you do right not to believe everything you read.
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Unless I have you confused with someone else, remember MM was questioning about interruption of the 7 day weekly cycle because of the new moon? So set me right - do you believe the moon in no way affects the 7 day weekly Sabbath?

Yes you are confusing me with someone else for I never got involved much in such types of discussion in this forum. I have no clue what discussion or topic you are referring at or what position MM took versus yours versus this other person you are mistaken me for.

So in another word -- sorry but I dunno
Sorry, must have got you confused with some octopus or something. Guess I was seeing a downward progression of some feastkeepers to totally destroying the Sabbath and mistakenly thought it was you.


Regarding your prophecy link, you should always ask:
Is that true?

I have no way of knowing.
The Internet didn't exist in 1981.
Is there any other record or we should just take his word?
UNITEDSTATESPROPHECY.COM was listed as created in 27-sep-2008.
The above "prophecy" page first shows up on the website in 2013.

So I don't know what to make of such stuff.
I could create a website that says it was prophesied in 1900 the twin towers would fall because I saw it in an oil slick.

As others have said, lots of false profits out there. Don't believe everything you read.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/22/16 02:58 PM

Update: USA Coup and Counter-Coup
My comment : Here's an edited version of Alex Jones Dec 16 interview with Dr. Steve Pieczenik for an update regarding the counter-coup. Basically Dr. Pieczenik says that the old US Government system run by the neo-cons is now history. Trump is doing a major cleanup and a major restructuring. Dr. Pieczenik says that now the old corrupt system is now irrelevant : Obama administration, corrupt CIA, FBI, Military, Presstitute, etc.... All is now irrelevant he says. A very informative interview.



My comment : There's also two articles written by Paul Craigs about the US Coup and Counter Coup.
Only a Counter-Coup Can Save American Democracy
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/...-craig-roberts/
Dec 17th, 2016
Paul Craig Roberts
Quote:
The CIA has long engineered coups in other countries. Now we are approaching at breakneck speed a CIA coup in the USA.

When the presstitute media first published unverifired, unsourced leaks attributed to unnamed CIA officials, both the FBI and the Director of Homeland Security said that they did not embrace the accusation that Trump’s election was a result of Russian interference in the US presidential election.

Now suddenly we have a report from the Washington Post, a rag whose integrity is in doubt and a mainstay of anti-Trump propaganda suspected of being a CIA asset, that the FBI and Homeland Security are in agreement with the anonymous leaks to the presstitutes:

Quote:
“FBI Director James B. Comey and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. are in agreement with a CIA assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help Donald Trump win the White House, officials disclosed Friday, as President Obama issued a public warning to Moscow that it could face retaliation.
New revelations about Comey’s position could put to rest suggestions by some lawmakers that the CIA and the FBI weren’t on the same page on Russian President Vladi­mir Putin’s intentions.”

“The positions of Comey and Clapper were revealed in a message that CIA Director John Brennan sent to the agency’s workforce Friday. ‘Earlier this week, I met separately with FBI [Director] James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election,’ Brennan said, according to U.S. officials who have seen the message.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...m=.ad62c36e39ca

Note, that this claim comes from the CIA. It has not been verified at this time of writing by the FBI and Homeland Security. Indeed, please note that the Washington Post, which is hyping this story of intelligence agency consensus, reports:

Quote:
“The CIA and the FBI declined to comment on Brennan’s message or on the classified intelligence assessment that CIA officials shared with members of the Senate Intelligence Committee earlier this month, setting off a political firestorm.” In other words, the CIA might be putting words in the mouths of the other intelligence officials.

Note also that Hillary says that Putin interfered against her because he has a grudge against her for her interference in his reelection by fomenting protests against him with the Western-financed Russian NGOs. If what Hillary claims is correct, then any Russian interference, for which proof remains absent, was directed against Hillary in order to settle a score and has nothing to do with any Russian influence over Trump or 200 Internet sites as falsely and maliciously reported by the Washington Post.

All the CIA officials making claims of Russian interference, according to the Washington Post, continue to speak “on the condition of anonymity.”

So we have a coup against the president-elect based solely on unverified, unsourced, anonymous assertions made by the public knows not who.

Rep. Davin Nunes, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, which has oversight over the CIA, has said that neither he nor the committee have seen any evidence from the CIA in support of the claims he reads in the media. He has asked the agency to brief the Intelligence Committee on the alleged evidence but has had no response.

According to the Washington Post, “Nunes said: ‘We have not received any information from Intelligence Community (IC) agencies indicating that they have developed new assessments on this issue. I am alarmed that supposedly new information continues to leak to the media but has not been provided to Congress.’”

Rep. Nunes statement makes it completely clear that the CIA is using the presstitute media to launch a coup against president-elect Trump.

CIA director John Brennan’s audacity suggests that he expects the coup to succeed. Otherwise, he is dead meat along with Bezos, The Washington Post and the rest of the presstitute media.

Trump’s critics on the left and right and among the liberals and progressives have stupidly played into the CIA’s hands. I tried to warn them not to judge Trump by the past associations of his appointees as no change was possible without strong knowledgeable appointees. Those who romanticize Bernie Sanders are out to lunch. A person as weak as Sanders proved to be, completely collapsing in the face of his stolen presidential nomination by Hillary, could not possibly have prevailed over the powerful oligarchic groups that rule America. When we finally get a president-elect strong enough to bring change from the top down, the leftwing-liberal-progressive elements join the CIA in denouncing him!

If the generals Trump has announced as his appointees have been too marginalized within the military by the neoconservatives to be able to provide US military protection against the CIA’s coup against the president-elect, do not expect Donald Trump to be inaugurated as President of the United States on January 20.

We are at the point that only a countercoup against the CIA and the Hillary forces can save American democracy.

High treason is alive and well in the United States, and it is operating against American democracy and president-elect Trump.


Paul Craig Roberts Warns "As the Coup Against Trump Fails, the Threat Against His Life Rises"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-21...-his-life-rises
Dec 21, 2016
Quote:
The use of the presstitute media to deny Trump the Republican presidential nomination failed.

The use of the presstitute media to deny Trump victory in the presidential election failed.

The vote recount failed.

The effort to sway the Electoral College failed.

But the effort continues.

The CIA report on Russia’s alleged interference in the US presidential election ordered by Obama is in process. Faked evidence is a hallmark of CIA operations.

In their determination to seal Trump’s ears against environmental concerns, a group of environmentalists plan to disrupt the inauguration. This in itself is of little consequence, but chaos presents opportunity for assassination.

Trump himself seems to think he is in danger. According to MSNBC, Trump intends to supplement his Secret Service protection with private security. As there is evidence of CIA complicity in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy (film shows Secret Service agents ordered away from JFK’s limo immediately prior to his assassination), Trump, who is clearly seen as a threat by the military/security complex, is not being paranoid. MSNBC implies that Trump’s private security is to suppress protesters, as if government security forces have shown any compunction about suppressing protesters.



This provides an indication of the threat that the CIA sees in Trump:

John F. Kennedy famously threatened to "smash the CIA into a thousand pieces." But ultimately, the 35th president lost his solitary battle to completely break the power of the deep state.

Though I respect Kennedy, I believe Donald Trump is a much more serious proposition.

Donald Trump is Michael Corleone. He will keep his friends close, and his enemies closer (including the likes of John Bolton). But those he doesn't keep closer, he will ruthlessly "screw against the wall" for targeting him.

The no-nonsense Mike Pompeo, Trump's nominee for CIA director, will be the hatchet man for this merciless house cleaning operation.

Come January 20th, the reckoning begins.
Global Research’s Michel Chossudovsky has explained that Trump’s peaceful approach to Russia aligns him with oligarchs, whose wealth benefits from business deals with Russia, and puts Trump at odds with the military/security oligarchs, who benefit from the one trillion dollar annual military/security budget. The latter group have been in control since President Eisenhower warned us about them and can muster deep state forces against a Trump presidency.

To take on a group like this requires a tough SOB. Anything less than Trump wouldn’t have a chance. Indeed, if Douglas Valentine’s just published book, The CIA As Organized Crime (Clarity Press, 2017) is even half true, Trump’s life is certainly at risk.

Donald Trump is clearly no saint. Given what we are up against—dangerous tensions between nuclear powers and the military/security complex’s stake in these tensions—a saint is not what the situation calls for.

The military/security complex has been entrenched since NATO’s formation on April 4, 1949, a provocation that preceded by six years the formation of the Warsaw Pact on May 14, 1955. Any president willing to confront this entrenched deep state superpower deserves the support of all of us.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/23/16 03:49 PM

"Russia Did It" - The Last Stand Of Neoconservatism
by Tyler Durden
Dec 23, 2016 2:00 AM

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In 1992, at the end of the Cold War, an American political scientist infamously proclaimed "the end of history:" liberal democracy and the capitalist system has won, the rest of the world will eventually embrace western ideas as superior to theirs because only they are able to provide peace and prosperity.

This line of reasoning has since become the West’s dogma in international relations, and so under the pretext of spreading human rights and parliamentary democracy all over the world the West perceives itself to be on a mission. For a while, it worked. Most of Eastern Europe readily embraced Western democracy and capitalism and even Russia seemed to follow.

Some intellectuals brought it to a new level: the rest of the world will have to embrace capitalism and liberal democracy voluntarily or else they will be forced to. It was the birth of neoconservatism in the United States and it would spread across the Atlantic. The Neocon vision had other implications, listed in the likewise infamous “Wolfowitz Doctrine”, and these are:

-American supremacy, which translates into active prevention of the formation and rise of any power that could challenge it;
-unilateral intervention;
- pre-emptive action;
-undermining Russia, by taking out from its sphere of influence the former Soviet countries which had not embraced western values yet, like Ukraine;
-forcing the Muslim world to accept the Israeli state on the latter’s conditions.

By the 2000s, Neocons had taken over the Republican Party in the US and the Labour Party in the UK and could count on allies in Italy (Berlusconi) and Spain (Aznar). In the following decade, Neocon ideology spread virulently, substituting for the failed experiment of military intervention to overthrow non-cooperating governments with covert operations funding and/or arming local groups in Libya, Syria,Tunisia Egypt, Georgia, and Ukraine.

Neocon adherents took over the US state department, and their grip on it was strengthened by the appointment of Barack Obama as assistant to Victoria Nuland, Secretary of State for European affairs, wife of Robert Kagan, who is in turn a top Neocon ideologist alongside Paul Wolfowitz. They also created the narrative spread and reinforced by the mainstream media, which expose the alleged crimes of non-cooperating regimes in Syria, Russia and Libya, while ignoring the anti “democratic” behavior by friendly dictatorships such as Saudi Arabia’s kings.

The mission however never changed. What changed is the mood of Western citizens about the government changes and state-building projects of the Western leadership; as the economic and human cost grew endlessly, the Western public opinion has become fed up with interventionism around the world.

The British Labour party was the first to face the malcontents: Blairites are being ousted in favour of anti-NATO, sworn pacifist Jeremy Corbyn.

Then Donald Trump won the US election with his “America First” i.e. a policy of “non-interventionism and protectionism”, defeating Hillary’s hawkish one, publicly endorsed by Kagan and Wolfowitz; Sarkozy and Juppè were defeated in the primaries in France by Fillon, who is advocating the end of the trade war against big bad Neocon target Russia. The Neocon-backing Western establishment is facing political upheaval all over Europe and the US. These revolutions are not mere popular movements. Trump’s election is the handing over of power from one influential group to another because a part of the establishment has become fully aware of the problems Europe and the US are facing.

After a fourteen-year war on terror in Afghanistan and Iraq the bloodshed spilled over into the streets of Paris and Berlin. The killing of civilians in the streets in Europe was not supposed to happen after the eradication of Al Qaeda and the alleged elimination of its leader Osama Bin Laden. Or should we rather say European insanity is spilling over, as the European establishment is simultaneously bombing a country and importing the country’s inhabitants? What do the Western leadership expect to have on their hands? Meanwhile Russia is reemerging as a more successful international actor.

China has become a production hub, building its own financial institutions and will become more and more independent of the US and European financial systems. In 2015 China launched its alternative CIPS for the SWIFT system, which had been for more than 30 years the center of international financial transactions.

The rapid and dramatic demographic changes cannot continue unnoticed by the establishment. The white population in the United States has decreased from 79.6 percent in 1980 to 61.9 percent in 2014. The percentage of Latino Americans has risen from 6.4 percent to 17.3 percent over the same period, while both the African American and Asian American populations have gone up. Europe is facing a multicultural quagmire and downward spiral of violence. The African and Muslim communities are hostile to Western societies and openly threatening to kill Westerners in endlessly numerous music videos posted on the internet.

The German establishment is in a complete state of denial, and the French Republican Party leaders believe they can regain control with some harsh words directed at the Muslim community on the one hand and unprecedented austerity measures dished out to the French population on the other.

In the US there are people like Richard Haas, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, who are strongly advocating a change in the Middle East policy. Haas would like to see America using its diplomatic and military power for gaining influence in South East Asia and deal with nations rather than tribes in Syria; he would also rather the US restored order at home than resolve the problems in Mosul and Fallujah in Iraq or Sirte in Libya.

The Neocon world peaked and is now crumbling at record speed. And what is the Neocons’ reaction? A failure to topple governments may have been taken into account, but the electoral defeats in the West were unexpected. In a bid that looks like a mix of anger and desperation the Neocon machine is using the US State Department and the mainstream media to mount a gigantic offensive putting the blame for its own failures on the battered Russia: so without having much evidence, neocons created a narrative that Russia has helped Donald Trump win the elections.

But of course, why stop there? Thus Neocon Blairite remnants in the UK are joining the crowd and claim that “Russian hackers caused Brexit’’.

What else? Gustav Gressel of the European Council on Foreign Relations claims that Russian secret services (rather than European open borders refugee policy) are behind the epidemic of sexual assaults committed by migrants in Germany7) attempting to weaken Merkel’s credibility for the next year election. Whenever something doesn’t go according to plan for the Western establishment, it’s Russia’s fault. Expect to see more.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 12/23/16 04:28 PM

My comment : Last week the FED reserve raised the interest rate. This will accelerate the collapse. As we all know the debt economic system has already been in crashing mode since 2008. And we do want it to crash. Perhaps a slower crash is preferred for any countries like China that has a lot of worthless US treasury notes so they can have more time to exchange these. Now since Trump is entering office (and is not one of their puppet), the FED decided to "help" while they can.

Federal Reserve Initiates End Game As Trump Heads To White House
Dec 22, 2016 10:15 PM
by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,

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For years, alternative economic analysts have been warning that the “miraculous” rise in U.S. stock markets has been the symptom of wider central bank intervention and that this will result in dire future consequences. We have heard endless lies and rationalizations as to why this could not be so, and why the U.S. “recovery” is real. At the beginning of 2016, the former head of the Dallas branch of the Federal Reserve crushed all the skeptics and vindicated our position in an interview with CNBC where he stated:

“What the Fed did — and I was part of that group — is we front-loaded a tremendous market rally, starting in 2009.It’s sort of what I call the “reverse Whimpy factor” — give me two hamburgers today for one tomorrow. I’m not surprised that almost every index you can look at … was down significantly.” [Referring to the results in the stock market after the Fed raised rates in December.]
Fisher continued his warning (though his predictions in my view are wildly conservative or deliberately muted):

“…I was warning my colleagues, “Don’t go wobbly if we have a 10-20 percent correction at some point. … Everybody you talk to … has been warning that these markets are heavily priced.”

Here is the issue — stocks are a mostly meaningless factor when considering the economic health of a nation. Equities are a casino based on nothing but the luck of the draw when it comes to news headlines, central banker statements and algorithmic computers. Today, as Fischer openly admitted, stocks are a purely manipulated indicator representing nothing but the amount of stimulus central banks are willing to pour into them through various channels.

Even with the incredible monetary support pooled together by international financiers, returns on equities investments continue to remain mostly flat. It would seem that the propping up of indexes like the Dow has been only for the sake of keeping up appearances. For many people, revenue is barely being generated.

Unfortunately, the majority of Americans do not care to educate themselves on the finer points of finance. Their only relation to the health of the economy is their daily glance at the Dow. If it is green, or at all time highs, they assume that all is well, even if their gut is telling them something is not quite right.

The elites that stand at the helm of the Federal Reserve understand this dynamic very well. They are not stupid. They know that the whole of the global economy could be in a shambles but as long as stocks remain positive the masses will continue to ignore reality until the flames of destabilization are at their very doorsteps.

With this fact in mind one might think that the Fed would consider it in their best interest to keep stimulus measures operating indefinitely; but that is not what they are doing.

In fact, the Fed along with other central banks like the ECB has been slowly peeling back pillars of support from markets that have been in place since 2008-2009 and leaving the system open to a crisis event that should have been dealt with years ago. I examined this process of deliberate destabilization in my article 'The Global Economic Reset Has Begun.'

In that piece I outlined the three major pillars holding up the U.S. market system and certain parts of our economy and how they were being systematically removed.

The first pillar was the use of bailouts and quantitative easing measures. These were diminished through the implementation of the Fed “taper,” which I predicted would happen three months prior that year.

The second pillar was the use of near zero interest rates, which allowed numerous banks and corporations to access low-cost and no-cost overnight loans from the Fed. These companies then used these loans in large part to support a never-ending program of stock buybacks, which reduced the stock pool and artificially boosted the values of the remaining stocks. I predicted in August of 2015 that the Fed would hike interest rates and that this would be the beginning of the end for the stock buyback bonanza. The Fed hiked rates in December of that year.

This process of removing backdoor manipulation through low interest rates should be our main concern right now. Early in 2016 I believed that the Fed would reach a position in which it would finally unleash a series of rate hikes. I did not think they would be so blatant as to wait until right after the U.S. presidential election to do so. I was wrong.

This is why I eventually predicted the launch of a series of rate hikes starting right after the election of Donald Trump in my article 'World Suffers From Trump Shell Shock — Here’s What Will Happen Next.' The Fed has now once again hiked interest rates with assertions that they will be “accelerating” such hikes throughout 2017.

As I have been arguing for most of the past year, the election of Donald Trump was inevitable and would precede the triggering of the final stage of our ongoing economic crisis. I came to realize that the Fed’s timing of their latest rate hike is highly strategic. Not only does it set the stage for a series of hikes that will crush U.S. stock markets this coming year and finally shock the public out of their fiscal stupor, but it also maneuvers the crisis right into the lap of Donald Trump and the conservative movements that support him.

Beyond this, it perpetuates an increasing Left/Right division in America. Think about it — during a fiscal crisis under Trump, tiggered by accumulating Fed rate hikes, liberals will immediately set upon Trump as the culprit, while conservatives will immediately defend Trump as a victim of Federal Reserve meddling.

The Federal Reserve and the mainstream media are already composing the narrative by stating that Trump's potential economic policies and a widening budget deficit would REQUIRE higher rates at a faster pace in order to be accommodated.

I have heard arguments from some that this tactic would simply not work. That people would “never buy” a narrative in which Trump and conservatives are blamed for a market collapse that was at least eight years in the making. I have to say, this view is incredibly naive.

I understand why people would want to embrace the notion that the public is as savvy as the liberty movement when looking at economic events, but this simply isn’t reality. A large portion of the U.S. population identifies with the “Left” end of the political spectrum. We have already seen how they react in the face of a Trump election win. They are predisposed to believe that Trump is responsible for a market crash regardless of the facts. Not to mention, much of the rest of the world is economically ignorant and will likely jump on the anti-conservative bandwagon during a crisis as well.

But the real master stroke of this strategy on the part of the elites is that it creates the perfect platform for the destruction of the U.S. dollar’s world reserve status — the third and final pillar I mentioned months ago that is supporting our economic system.

Imagine that the Fed’s rate hike frenzy sparks an open feud between the central bank and Trump? Some people might say “Good! Shut the bastards down!” However, this is exactly what the elites want. With the Fed “at odds” with the president of the U.S., faith in the U.S. dollar will plummet. Its world reserve status will be destroyed. And instead of being blamed on central banks, the majority of people around the world will claim it was the fault of Trump.

With a historically sufficient excuse for the end of dollar dominance in hand, the elites can move forward with their great global reset, which includes the replacement of the dollar with the IMF’s special drawing rights as the go-to reserve currency mechanism. The SDR basket is an essential bridge in the formation of a single global monetary authority and a true single global currency.

I believe that the Fed will not only continue hiking interest rates throughout 2017, but that some of these rate hikes may be LARGER than many people expect (50 basis points or more). I believe this will be designed to foster extreme tensions between the executive branch and the central bank.

A few months ago I would have said that Trump may or “may not” be aware of this dynamic and the potential that he is a scapegoat. Now that I have seen Trump’s cabinet picks which include neo-con and Goldman Sachs alumni, I have little doubt that he is fully cognizant of the plan. I will be writing more on the issue of Trump as a "Trojan horse" in my next article. In the meantime I would point out that all of the elements of psychological support for stock markets will also disappear in the face of a Trump verses establishment narrative.

All those leftist media outlets cherry picking economic stats and telling half truths to support the recovery lie now have no reason to continue cheerleading for the economy. I expect that propaganda rags like Reuters and Bloomberg will quickly change their tune with Trump in the Oval Office and begin a consistent chorus of negative financial data. Not only will the Fed remove all support from the system, but the mainstream media will be pounding day traders with the kind of “doom and gloom” headlines that they have been criticizing us for over the years.

Make no mistake, the election of Trump may have some in the liberty movement ready to pack up their preps and forget about any national crisis in their lifetimes, but the truth is, vigilance is needed now more than ever. I said it before the election and I’ll say it today — do not get comfortable; the times are about to get even more interesting.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/02/17 12:42 AM

The Truth about the fear of "Fake News": the war against Pedophilia

My comment : We've been hearing about Hillary's US office dealings via private emails for awhile now. Just a few weeks ago, the FBI re-opened the investigation. If I recall the news correctly, Trump didn't make that call; it is the good guys from the FBI that re-opened the case. Trump seems to not want to push any investigation. His reason could be that it is the FBI's work to bring this about. We will see how things will develop in regards to this.

Babylon's organized empire(via US Government, British Government & Israeli Government, and their other countries that acts as vassal governments) are afraid to have these files brought to the light that will expose how deep corruption runs into the Western countries. These files reveals the narcotic trafficking that the US government and others benefited from its revenu; CIA tempering in other country's elections; War crimes, rapes, and thefts; etc...

Perhaps the worst information of all the Elites don't want to hit the media is the hidden Pedophilia ring circle that exist in Washington DC. I think many people won't take lightly having innocent children murdered in such unthinkable ways by our own government leaders!!!

So they are preparing the ground by accusing truthsome alternative news reported on the internet of producing "fake news" when it is MSM(Mainstream Media) that has been the biggest "fake news" machine for decades to maintain the mass in a constant state of confusion so it would be almost impossible for any individual to find the real truth of the matter in the midst of massive load of "fake news". Creating CONFUSION so thick to make it almost impossible for most individual to discern the truth -- is the other big power of Mystery Babylon's Empire. I think the Lord has reveal to us the power of the last Beast Empire by its' name : Mystery[secret] Babylon[confusion]

So the Elites also populate most of the "fake news" on the net. Thus their "fake news" claims does have some level of validity while not mentioning that they have produce these also.

Not that I care to know or see these details of who participated in these horrific child crimes. Nor do I think I'm better than any of these Elites or those that are under their commands. But I do believe the Lord used them for a very important purpose : to show the world to what level "the man of sin"(2Thes 2:3) will go and what type of government they will run. This is a necessary pre-event so to create in the people a genuine wanting and thirsting for the coming of God's Kingdom. We have to understand these events in the light of God's Plan as He prepares His kingdom with these events.

Now that the Lord has placed a NON-Babylonian-ESTABLISHMENT man in the lead of the US Government; it will be safe for those that have "true news" to come forward without fearing to be killed by the Ex-Babylonian establishment. Perhaps 2017, is going to be a year where an avalanche of other exposures will come.

The success of "Mystery[secret, hidden] Babylon" lied in the fact that they, their organization, and their agenda remain hidden (in secret) from the mass. However, the coming of the internet to the mass in the 90s did expose their secrets.

This Pedophilia ring circle wasn't only for the purpose to fulfill some leaders sex fantasy so to have some blackmailing material on them afterwards; but many of these children were murdered on Luciferian's ritual altar. They(Luciferian Elites) believe that many children need to be sacrificed in the most atrocious ways so to gain some power. What I've read -- they think the more screams, yells, and horror given to the child -- that this "releases" these children's spirit that in return gives them power.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/12/18/the-coming-war-on-pedophilia/

Dec 18th, 2016

..."Some insiders claim that the DC Establishment greatly fear Trump because he is not believed to be a member of any Secret Society or the Satanic Pedophile Network, which most top Republican, as well as top Democrat Members of Congress, are alleged to be. If true, this would likely make it extremely difficult or impossible for the DC Establishment to control him.

“Trump’s biggest enemies will be those who have been inducted into the large Satanic Pedophile Network (SPN) which is run as a massive human compromise, mind-kontrol system by the COL RKM used to keep initiates compromised, blackmailable and in line. This massive SPN is financed in America by the City of London RKM private Fiat central Banksters through their largest franchise, the Federal Reserve System (FRS).

“…this War on Pedophilia would be a great means for Trump to mobilize the American mothers who are the SPN’s greatest potential enemy. This fact has been stated numerous times publicly by the foremost expert of Pedophilia and sex trafficking Detective James Rothstein (NYCPD Gold Shield, Police Intel, NY Crime Commission Special Squad).

“Trump must activate this rage by publicizing this problem, setting up a clean special independent prosecutor and recommending special grand juries in every state to investigate and charge. If promised protection, numerous seasoned LE and Intel will come forth and present rock solid evidence. Immunity agreements can be made with many folks at the periphery of the SPN who would have otherwise testified against it but for their fear of being immediately murdered.

... Detective Rothstein has claimed that as high as 70% of high USG officials have been compromised by Pedophilia. Two separate investigations of Congress about 25 years ago (one from an FBI deep cover informant, the other by LE Intel) showed that 39% and 42% of male members of the US Congress were so compromised.


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What is Donald Trump’s best path to attain the full agenda that he energetically promised to the American voters?

And what actions could he take that could disprove the DNC and Major Mass Media allegations that he is a billionaire that has always had a silver spoon in his mouth. That he promised everything that dissatisfied Americans wanted to hear just to get elected and once in office will service his wealth one-percenter buddies?

The best advice that can be given to him is to maintain the same strategy that won him the election, to mobilize and strengthen a growing emergent American Populism.

This same American Populism that has emerged largely from the Alternative media of the worldwide Internet now demands and end to DC cronyism and endemic corruption that has occurred at every level of the USG.

Trump’s winning strategy was to mobilize this emergent populist mass dissatisfaction of the American workers and disenfranchised middle class.

Trump’s canny ability to focus on his adversary’s weaknesses were quickly strengthened and magnified by the massive leaks of DNC related emails published by Wikileaks.

And no one yet has provided any evidence these emails were not genuine, and the Controlled Major Mass Media, an illegal News Cartel itself, has accepted them as legitimate despite frequent attempts to paint Trump as an enemy of We The People.

Trump’s campaign strategy, which turned out to be extremely effective included very canny edgy comments delivered daily that grabbed the headlines and main talking points.

His very greatest opposers, the CMMM, is run by six Media Moguls who answer to a large investment house in Switzerland that claims to be on the vanguard of investments.

These CMMM enemies turned out to be Trump’s greatest campaign asset by providing hundreds of millions of dollars of free campaign advertising.

How could this be you might ask, when the CMMM continually broadcast negative reports about Trump?

Most Americans rejected at face value all these negative CMMM taking points about Trump, thus reinforcing their distrust of the USG itself and the CMMM.

The more that the CMMM kept broadcasting anti-Trump news that seemed noticeably biased and false, the more the American masses supported Trump.

I will not recite Trump’s populist agenda here because it is available at numerous sources and most know it by heart already.

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But it is fair to say that not only is his agenda going to be extremely difficult to attain as promised, but in fact, his only chance of doing it is to capture a majority of Americans for full and energetic support.

And this means he will have to win some of his opposers over to his way of thinking in full support of his agenda if he is to be able to fully attain it.

Like it or not, the Clinton and Obama Presidencies have been unable to reverse all the massive damage to the American economic system that was created by GHWB and his Cabal and by Bush2, which many now realize was fully authorized by the City of London private Banksters and the Rothschild Khazarian Mafia (RKM).

Two Gulf wars and war in Afghanistan, set up as perpetual wars to be continually lost like Korea and Vietnam, have drained the US taxpayers’ wealth and transferred it to the Defense Contractors (especially the no bid types) and the large RKM related bloodline families which own large blocks of their stock.

How did America end up being run by a foreign espionage front, the City of London Rothschild Khazarian Mafia private Fiat Banksters?

And ever since a major coup d’état against America was successfully implemented in 1913, our manufacturing of US Money and its distribution has been hijacked by a foreign espionage entity dedicated to the complete asset stripping and destruction of America.

The means to do this was for the US Banksters (aka the Federal Reserve, a foreign owned bank, a franchise of the Rothschild City of London private Fiat Banking System), to form a critical alliance with the Saudis and some other Mideast oil producers.

This oil alliance was a three way agreement between the major oil companies, these oil producers and the USG. It involved the US Military and NATO providing complete military protection for these oil producers as long as they agreed to accept US Dollars for their oil.

Nixon and Kissinger
Nixon and Kissinger

This caused the US dollar to become the Reserve Currency for the whole world and the USD became referred to as the US Petro Dollar.

At about the same time, Nixon under the advice of Kissinger, removed the requirement that the US Dollar had to be backed by Gold and Silver, transforming them into Federal Reserve interest bearing Debt notes only.

This was completely unconstitutional and illegal and was soon followed by the theft of all American gold from Fort Knox and other repositories by the COL RKM Banksters.

The bottom line to this hijacking of our own Constitutional money creation and distribution system is this:

We The People have been forced by our own USG to pay usury to use what should have been our own Constitutional money in the first place and have also been forced to pay illegal Federal taxes which were imposed the say way that the COL RKM Banksters hijacked our money creation and distribution system in the first place—by bribing and human compromising our elected politicians and our President to violate the US Constitution and Rule of Law.

Once our Constitution and Rule of Law was violated by these foreign based COL Banksters (an act of blatant foreign espionage against America), it was then easy for these Banksters to proceed to buy off, human compromise and coerce almost every single top USG official, elected or appointed.

Those that don’t cooperate are then voted out by various sophisticated means like massive support for a selected opponent, redistricting, wrongly, falsely smearing. This was done to Representative Cynthia McKinney and also to Senator Dave Durenberger.

Or prosecuting and/or jailing by use of trumped-up fake charges and fake evidence like what was done to Governor Don Siegelman or Representative James Traficant (both were completely innocent).

Some believe that James Traficant was murdered in a staged tractor accident upon orders by the SPC (COL RKM) at his farm after his release from prison.

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Putin and the Russians had nothing to do with the DNC’s emails being leaked and published by Wikileaks.

The claim that he did by elements in the CIA’s top management, DNC leaders and the Controlled Major Mass Media (CMMM) is a psyop to derail Trump’s election win by manipulating the Electoral College electors.

This Psyop is perhaps also based on the fear that Wikileaks is a Mossad Op and Trump is perhaps being manipulated covertly by RKM Zios without his knowledge in a very crafty covert operation to put him in power where they can manipulate and use externally based economic and political forces to manipulate him.

The best guess who provided the DNC emails to Wikileaks which appear to have originated with the NSA raw data is an American Intel group.

A very good bet is that it is a group of deep black, high ranking American Intel insiders who have access to all NSA raw data provided the DNC emails to Wikileaks or some other group that has such access.

This Psyop which wrongly blames Putin obviously ignores is any attention to the fact that none of the leaked emails have been contested and claimed to be untrue.

Nor has the DC Establishment, the FBI or the CMMM viewed them as evidence of major RICO crimes as they should for such crimes as illegally manipulating the nomination process to move Bernie Sanders out of the nomination process. This is where the emphasis should be.

And major LE efforts should be made to prosecute the BCC and many others for all the Mideast war crimes and lies which resulted in the functional financial demise of the USA and millions of needless deaths, including the thousands of dead, suicided and disabled American Soldiers.

Some insiders claim that the DC Establishment greatly fear Trump because he is not believed to be a member of any Secret Society or the Satanic Pedophile Network, which most top Republican, as well as top Democrat Members of Congress, are alleged to be. If true, this would likely make it extremely difficult or impossible for the DC Establishment to control him.

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Trump has no chance to succeed in attaining his agenda unless he deals head on with this massive financial theft and fraud of American wealth by the foreign espionage system (the COL RKM) which runs the Federal Reserve System.

This COL/RKM Banksters system has imposed the massive fraud that We The People owe them trillions of dollars in interest for using what should have been our own money in the first place.

Actually under US Law and the US Constitution we owe them NOTHING. There is no legitimate Federal Debt nor is their self-imposed name the Federal Reserve (“the Fed”) legitimate either. The FRS is no more a part of the USG than federal express which is a private corporation.

With proper executive PDD orders signed by Trump and proper adjudication, the FRS could be eliminated, the owners convicted of massive RICO Financial Fraud and all their assets could be clawed back because there is no statute of limitations on fraud.

So if Trump wants to succeed he will have to credibly communicate the conclusion to We The People that there is no legitimate Federal Debt owed to the FRS (franchisee of the COL RKM private Fiat Banksters) and that this must be immediately corrected with all stolen funds recovered and returned to taxpayers.

Trump must gain massive support of We The People and Congress to dump the FRS. This will be necessary to cancel this phony FRS US National Debt and take the creation and distribution of American money back into the US Treasury, where it must be backed by Gold, Silver clawed back from the COL/RKM Banksters that stole it beginning in 1971. Government owned commodities and real estate can also be used to back the US Dollar.

Trump’s biggest enemies will be those who have been inducted into the large Satanic Pedophile Network (SPN) which is run as a massive human compromise, mind-kontrol system by the COL RKM used to keep initiates compromised, blackmailable and in line.

This massive SPN is financed in America by the City of London RKM private Fiat central Banksters through their largest franchise, the Federal Reserve System (FRS).

This provides endless funds supply of funds to buy, bribe and finance any necessary human compromise operations including the Satanic Pedophile Network which is used to keep top USG Officials and major Corp leaders (including the CMMM moguls) in line, doing what the COL/RKM Banksters and their Superiors demand.

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Perpetual Wars and the Seeds of Gladio

"New Gladio" Italian Fascist front traced to CIA and MOSSAD operations including possible "Islamic" terrorism
“New Gladio”

Historically it has been is generally recognized that for any ruler to consolidate power he must engage in a serious pre-engineered war with another nation or nations.

In the past other leaders split this into real foreign wars (unconstitutional, perpetual, undeclared, unwinnable) and created other “social wars” on the home front, like the war on poverty, the war on crime, the war on drugs, and now the war on terrorism.

The Bush Crime Cabal (BCC) working at the direction of the COL RKM Banksters very craftily created a new major world war that was also brought home to America’s mainland.

This new War on Terror was created through the use of NATO’s Operation Gladio left-behind Nazi Army and hired CIA mercenaries, largely financed by Saudi Arabia.

These disposable mercenaries have been deeply mind-kontrolled by certain large DOD contractors who deployed some very sophisticated mind-kontrol technologies based on remote psychotronic brain entrainment. Their leaders have been high ranking CIA, Mossad and IDF who have all lost their very souls during initiation human compromise rituals.

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If Trump tries to attain his agenda without cancelling the fraudulent imaginary US National Debt, he will be doomed to failure.

Why is this? Because the US Petro Dollar is well on its way to rejection as the world’s reserve currency and in addition this imaginary unconstitutional and illegal multi-trillion dollar FRS debt bomb will finish off We The People by asset stripping us right into the street, homeless unless it is exposed as a fraud and cancelled by Trump as soon as he is seated.

If he tries to cancel this fraudulent imaginary FRS/COL RKM US National Debt without complete populist support of We The People, he will fail because the Satanic Pedophile Network (SPN) runs the CIA and most of DC (including the top Democrats, top Republicans, and every official USG agency, as well as the CMMM.

In practical terms this means that those Democratic and Republican leaders and high USG and Intel officials compromised by their secret evil pedophile addictions and membership in the SPN could be easily coerced by the COL RKM (the folks who control the SPN) to thwart Trump on all fronts.

The only way for Trump to neutralize these opponents is to continue reinforcing American populism and then mobilizing it to attack these high USG and Intel officials held captive by the SPN.

To defeat his opponents and attain his agenda, Trump must create a new War on Pedophilia in America.

He knows that America cannot afford any more expensive foreign wars so it must be a war against evil at home and nothing is more real or more evil, or more easy to prove that the presence of this very large, very powerful SPN that controls the DC Establishment, the top Corporate leaders, Intel and USG agencies.

American mothers are a sleeping populist giant that once awakened can easily be mobilized to attack this large and powerful SPN on all fronts, especially by petitioning, calling, writing and demonstrating against the CMMM who will work to cover it up.

America needs to support Trump in his efforts, if he really wants to drain The Swamp
If Trump really wants and intends to drain The Swamp, then he will need most Americans to support his efforts in this

Once the American mothers find out how massive this Pedophile problem is within the USG and that the CMMM has been covering it up along with the FBI for many years, they will create a massive unending populist sh*t-storm against the SPC, the FBI and the CMMM.

Det. James Rothstein (Ret.), NYCPD Gold Shield, Police Intel, NY Crime Commission Special Squad (now retired). America’s No. 1 expert in sex trafficking, organized pedophile human compromise ops and illegal narcotics trafficking. Responsible for the prosecution and conviction of more high level human compromise criminals than any other LE person in America. Det. Rothstein is a totally stand up man who can be trusted and has a distinguished record that is unmatched.
Det. James Rothstein, NYCPD Gold Shield, Police Intel, NY Crime Commission Special Squad (now retired). America’s No. 1 expert in sex trafficking, organized pedophile human compromise ops and illegal narcotics trafficking. Responsible for the prosecution and conviction of more high level human compromise criminals than any other LE person in America. Det. Rothstein is a totally stand up man who can be trusted and has a distinguished record that is unmatched.

Note that the FBI makes token arrests of the small independent Pedophile Networks that arise from the websites that they themselves set up as entrapment stings to fool the public and keep their cover-up in place.

Trump can take care of these soulless scumbags by bringing massive anti-trust to break up these six CMMM and by prosecuting them for serving as a front for the foreign espionage of the COL/RKM private central Fiat Banksters.

It is these COL/RKM Banksters who are using the FRS trying to completely asset strip the America worker and taxpayer, to start and then destroy America the Republic and Balkanize it into ten separate Globalist/NWO territories.

Actually this War on Pedophilia would be a great means for Trump to mobilize the American mothers who are the SPN’s greatest potential enemy.

This fact has been stated numerous times publicly by the foremost expert of Pedophilia and sex trafficking Detective James Rothstein (NYCPD Gold Shield, Police Intel, NY Crime Commission Special Squad).

Detective Rothstein has claimed that the only effective mass weapon that can be deployed against the Pedophile Network to stop it cold is a change in the laws covering investigation, by providing protection for Police and LE that investigate and prosecute these unimaginably evil crimes.

Effective action must include massive publication of this Pedophile Network by the Alternative Media on the Internet to the point it awakens and angers the mothers of America in mass and drives these facts into the mainstream news.

Detective Rothstein has claimed that as high as 70% of high USG officials have been compromised by Pedophilia. Two separate investigations of Congress about 25 years ago (one from an FBI deep cover informant, the other by LE Intel) showed that 39% and 42% of male members of the US Congress were so compromised.

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Conclusion


Nothing makes American mothers more enraged than pedophile crimes against young defenseless children by high politicians that abuse their power and trust given them by the voters.

Some of these crimes at the highest levels of the SPN include torture, murder, vivisection, cannibalism after the sexual abuse and rape. When the American women become informed of these high level crimes en masse, they will become enraged.

And nothing could ever be more powerful than American Women enraged en masse over these extreme crimes against defenseless children and infants, NOTHING.

Trump must activate this rage by publicizing this problem, setting up a clean special independent prosecutor and recommending special grand juries in every state to investigate and charge.

If promised protection, numerous seasoned LE and Intel will come forth and present rock solid evidence. Immunity agreements can be made with many folks at the periphery of the SPN who would have otherwise testified against it but for their fear of being immediately murdered.

The iron grip over DC of the COL/RKM’s Satanic Pedophile Network (SPN) will be exposed and broken. Trump is the only one that has the power to do this and to mobilize massive emergent American Populism.

Once he has done this, he can fully attack the SPN, which will break the control that the COL/RKM Banksters exercise over America at every level.

If Trump refuses to go after the COL/RKM private Banksters and their espionage front the FRS; refuses to cancel the US National Debt after exposing it as a fraud; refuses to dump the FRS and bring all money creation and distribution into the US Treasury; stop charging interest to use what should have been our own real money in the first place; refuses to prosecute the RKM/COL/FRS kingpin-owners under RICO; refuses to break up the CMM and prosecute them under RICO; refuses to expose the massive existence of the Satanic Pedophile Network and to fully investigate and prosecute all top members to the fullest extent possible under RICO and murder; refuses to mobilize the American mothers in mass to support him and also fight against these soulless pedophile scum in high places; … then we must all assume that he was put in place by the head of the Zionist Globalists themselves by deployment of a very crafty, deep black covert operation.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/02/17 04:56 AM

My comment : Concerning the accusation that Russia hacked the US Election -- 2 good articles.

The first is about John McAfee's opinion why it cannot be so.

The second article is about what is the Obama Administration up to by placing this ridiculous new sanction against Russia based on a recent CIA report that starts with a disclaimer saying they have no evidence of what is included in the report???? "Possibly we should consider that more is going on than meets the eye. Perhaps the propaganda about the Russian cyber threat to democracy is being used to prepare American and/or European populations for an incident. The CIA has morphed into a “deep state” that uses disinformation and propaganda to align decisions of Congress, the executive branch, and foreign governments with secret behind-the-scenes agendas. ... In order to deter Trump from restoring normal relations with Russia, an incident would have to be severe and irreversible."

John McAfee: ‘I Can Guarantee You, It Was Not the Russians’
30Dec
http://ibankcoin.com/flyblog/2016/12/30/john-mcafee-i-can-guarantee-you-it-was-not-the-russians/
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(iBankCoin/Dr.Fly) In case some of you were duped into believing this was evidence that proved Russia hacked the US elections, John McAfee would like to remind you that you’re probably a high tier retard and would believe virtually anything your government told you.

Crazy, but brilliant, John said “if it looks like the Russians did it, then I can guarantee you it was not the Russians.”

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The Joint Analysis Report from the FBI contains an appendix that lists hundreds of IP addresses that were supposedly “used by Russian civilian and military intelligence services.” While some of those IP addresses are from Russia, the majority are from all over the world, which means that the hackers constantly faked their location.

McAfee argues that the report is a “fallacy,” explaining that hackers can fake their location, their language, and any markers that could lead back to them. Any hacker who had the skills to hack into the DNC would also be able to hide their tracks, he said

“If I was the Chinese and I wanted to make it look like the Russians did it, I would use Russian language within the code, I would use Russian techniques of breaking into the organization,” McAfee said, adding that, in the end, “there simply is no way to assign a source for any attack.”

However, McAfee does see a problem with the National Security Agency (NSA) being able to listen in on every conversation and read every text message and email of every American. Rather than focusing on disrupting the bad guys in foreign countries, McAfee thinks that “all of that effort has been placed on a country that is afraid of its own citizens.”

He claims that the only way he has been able to fully block the NSA from infecting his phone with spyware is by using a flip-phone too old to be hacked. He even goes as far as to call the iPhone the “ultimate spy device.”
Since the stakes are so high, thermonuclear war and all, the least the CIA and other wonderful intelligence agencies can do is provide sufficient evidence to the American people before they get annihilated under the winds of a 10,000 degree winter breeze. Or is that too much to ask? Judging by just about everything they’ve told us over the past 15 years, I’m inclined to believe the exact opposite is true.

Kim dot Com agrees with McAfee’s assertions. This isn’t exactly rocket science.

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What Is The Obama Regime Up To? — Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/30/what-is-the-obama-regime-up-to-paul-craig-roberts/

Dec 30th, 2016

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Obama has announced new sanctions on Russia based on unsubstantiated charges by the CIA that the Russian government influenced the outcome of the US presidential election with “malicious cyber-enabled activities.”

The US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has issued a report “related to the declaration of 35 Russian officials persona non grata for malicious cyber activity and harassment.”

The report is a description of “tools and infrastructure used by Russian intelligence services to compromise and exploit networks and infrastructure associated with the recent U.S. election, as well as a range of U.S. government, political and private sector entities.”

The report does not provide any evidence that the tools and infrastructure were used to influence the outcome of the US presidential election. The report is simply a description of what is said to be Russian capabilities. https://diplopundit.net/2016/12/29/dhsfb...ty-read-report/

Moreover, the report begins with this disclaimer: “DISCLAIMER: This report is provided ‘as is’ for informational purposes only. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) does not provide any warranties of any kind regarding any information contained within.” https://diplopundit.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/jar_16-20296.pdf

In other words, the report not only provides no evidence of the use of the Russian tools and infrastructure in order to influence the US presidential election, the report will not even warrant the correctness of its description of Russian capabilities.

Thus the DHS report makes it completely clear that the Obama regime has no evidential basis for its allegations on the basis of which it has imposed more sanctions on Russia.

What is going on here?

First there is the question of the legality of the sanctions even if there were evidence. I am not certain, but I think that sanctions require the action of a body, such as the UN Security Council, and cannot legally be imposed unilaterally by one country. Additionally, it is unclear why Obama is calling the expulsion of Russian diplomats “sanctions.” No other country has to do likewise. During the Cold War when diplomats were expelled for spying, it was not called “sanctions.” Sanctions imply more than unilateral or bilateral expulsions of diplomats.

Second, it is clear that Obama, the CIA, and the New York Times are fully aware that the allegation is false. It is also clear that if the CIA actually believes the allegation, the intelligence agency is totally incompetent and cannot be believed on any subject.

Third, President Trump can rescind the sanctions in 21 days, a third reason that the sanctions are ridiculous.

So why are President Obama, the CIA, and the New York Times making charges that they know are false and for which they have not produced a shred of evidence? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/29/opinion/president-obama-punishes-russia-at-last.html?_r=1

One obvious answer is that the neoconized Obama regime is desperate to ruin US-Russian relations past the point that Trump can repair them. As the New York Times puts it, “Mr. Obama’s actions clearly create a problem for Mr. Trump.” The question the New York Times says, is whether Trump “stands with his democratic allies on Capitol Hill or his authoritarian friend in the Kremlin.”

Can Trump’s foreign policy be controlled by false allegations? According to the New York Times, Trump has relented and agreed to being briefed by the CIA about the Russian hacking now that Republicans such as Paul Ryan, John McCain, and Lindsey Graham have lined up with Obama and the CIA in accepting charges for which no evidence has been presented. However, a briefing without evidence would seem simply to further discredit the CIA in Trump’s eyes.

As I have emphasized in my columns, facts no longer have a role in the United States and its empire. Allegations alone suffice, whether in court cases, interrogation centers, foreign and domestic policies, or classrooms. The US even bases its military invasions on false allegations—“weapons of mass destruction.” Indeed, the entirely of US foreign policy since the Clinton regime has been based on nothing but false allegations.

The Russian government should have learned by now, but perhaps Moscow still thinks that facts matter in Washington’s decisions.

Possibly we should consider that more is going on than meets the eye. Perhaps the propaganda about the Russian cyber threat to democracy is being used to prepare American and/or European populations for an incident. The CIA has morphed into a “deep state” that uses disinformation and propaganda to align decisions of Congress, the executive branch, and foreign governments with secret behind-the-scenes agendas. Many books, such as Stephen Kinzer’s The Brothers and Douglas Valentine’s CIA As Organized Crime have described some of these secret agendas.

In order to deter Trump from restoring normal relations with Russia, an incident would have to be severe and irreversible. Rather than accept defeat for their agenda of US world hegemony, the neoconservatives are prepared to take high risks. The willingness to take risks is demonstrated by the public effort of the CIA Director to discredit the president-elect.

As expected, Putin’s response to the latest provocation is low key as the “sanctions” appear to be meaningless on the surface (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/12/...-new-sanctions/). However, in the event that something dangerous is below the surface, the Russian government might want to consider putting its military forces on alert.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/02/17 01:59 PM

My comment : Below is Stephen Jones 2016 year end report :

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2016/12-2016/year-end-report/
31 Dec

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Year End Report
Dec 31, 2016

The year 2016 has been very eventful, as we expected, and it is now coming to a close. Much has been accomplished in the progression of the Kingdom, so I want to give you a progress report.

The past prophetic year began November 13, 2015 with the Paris attacks, foreshadowing a year of death and destruction. It ended with the election of Donald Trump, the “Demolition Man” that God has raised up to overthrow the Babylonian system. As I have said for the past few years, the transfer of authority to the saints of the Most High is occurring progressively from October 2014 to December 2017.

The 99-year plan of the New World Order, which was begun in June 1919 with the Treaty of Versailles, will end in June of 2018. So that is another end-point as well, or perhaps a deadline for the next New World Order. It appears to me that the next NWO will transition us from Babylon to the Kings of the East, with “Cyrus the Messiah” at the helm (Isaiah 45:1), seen in various manifestations.

Few things happen instantaneously, but from a historical standpoint, the world is rapidly changing. The Babylonians are crying foul, terrified as they see their world crumbling around them, desperately trying to find a way to prevent Trump from taking office. Obama is seeking new ways to start a war with Russia, but Putin is not taking the bait. When Obama expelled 35 Russian diplomats, Putin responded by inviting US diplomats and their families to a Christmas party! Such responses are unheard of in the history of world diplomacy. Trump tweeted that Putin is a smart man. Obama claimed that his tweet was nearly treasonous!

The head of the CIA claims that Russia was trying to influence the US elections. The CIA has directly influenced at least 81 elections worldwide since World War 2. The CIA’s job description is to “protect American interests abroad,” which includes influencing elections, and, if that fails, they organize coups against existing regimes by supporting local revolutions, such as we see in Syria and in the Ukraine.

If such influence was cause for war or expulsion of diplomats, and if there had been equal accountability, most US diplomats would now be unemployed. But of course, the USA is “exceptional,” which means we hold ourselves to a different standard. Why? Because we can. Might makes right is the principle. We are not a nation of laws. We are a nation of power politics. That is the heart of Babylon.

The US government is angry with Russia for countering these US-led revolutions. They blame Russia for all the casualties of war, when, in fact, the US government itself is largely responsible for those casualties. Most of the trouble in the Mideast has been the result of US foreign policy, but the US blames those nations when they fight back and people get killed.

It is the height of Babylonian hypocrisy, a propaganda war, fed by the mainstream media. The media has lost so much credibility in recent years that the US government now finds it necessary to outlaw those not under Babylonian control—so called “fake news sites.” There is indeed a lot of fake news, and most of it is coming from the mainstream media. But also, realize that the CIA plants many fake news stories in alternate sites that they have created, in order to create confusion whenever their deeds are exposed. So there are indeed fake news articles in the alternate media online. Most of those fake articles are planted by the CIA itself, so that the government can claim with some credibility that such fake news must be stopped.

So we are now embroiled in the final battle that runs parallel to the original war between Babylon and Medo-Persia (the original “Kings of the East”). Don’t expect today’s “Cyrus” to know God as we do, any more than the original Cyrus did (Isaiah 45:4). Nonetheless, with all the fleshly conflict and carnal methods being used on both sides, understand that God is behind this conflict, and that God is backing the Kings of the East, even as He did in the days of Daniel.

In the original pattern of the four beast nations prophesied in Daniel 2 and 7, the second beast was the bear of Medo-Persia. Isaiah 45:1 prophesied that Persia would be led by Cyrus, “My Messiah,” in that he would do everything God told him to do. However, in the big picture, Medo-Persia was just the second beast nation, so that was the dominant prophecy that had to be fulfilled. The fact that he issued a decree to rebuild Jerusalem was subordinate to that dominate pattern.

Today, however, this is reversed. The four beasts (Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome) have already run their courses. Their time has ended. We are now re-running the pattern, because in 1913-1914 Babylon was repeated as Mystery Babylon, centered in the Federal Reserve Bank, which has put the world into an extension of bondage. But Mystery Babylon’s time is now ending, and God has raised up the Kings of the East to overthrow Mystery Babylon. This time, “Cyrus and Darius” are being raised up in a post-beast era, so the outcome will be reversed from what was seen in round one. This time, the Messiah pattern is the dominant pattern that will prevail in the end, because the 2,520-year (“seven times”) judgment is ending from 2014-2017.

So we should be encouraged, because no matter how carnal the players are in this present conflict, we know that God uses faith-filled believers and carnal non-believers alike in His plan. That, in fact, is the main point of Isaiah 45, which sets forth the sovereignty of God. We do not need to fight this battle, nor do we need to be stressed over it. Our warfare is spiritual in nature, which, in fact, has established the victors and losers in this earthly conflict.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/02/17 02:37 PM

Sorry, for not mentioning clearly below that Hillary private emails included the pedophilia ring circle dealings correspondence by which many ("Detective Rothstein has claimed that as high as 70% of high USG officials have been compromised by Pedophilia. ") are implicated in these. With this dark secret in the picture, we can surely understand more the true nature of the conflict.

Originally Posted By: Elle
The Truth about the fear of "Fake News": the war against Pedophilia

My comment : We've been hearing about Hillary's US office dealings via private emails for awhile now. Just a few weeks ago, the FBI re-opened the investigation. If I recall the news correctly, Trump didn't make that call; it is the good guys from the FBI that re-opened the case. Trump seems to not want to push any investigation. His reason could be that it is the FBI's work to bring this about. We will see how things will develop in regards to this.

Babylon's organized empire(via US Government, British Government & Israeli Government, and their other countries that acts as vassal governments) are afraid to have these files brought to the light that will expose how deep corruption runs into the Western countries. These files reveals the narcotic trafficking that the US government and others benefited from its revenu; CIA tempering in other country's elections; War crimes, rapes, and thefts; etc...

Perhaps the worst information of all the Elites don't want to hit the media is the hidden Pedophilia ring circle that exist in Washington DC. I think many people won't take lightly having innocent children murdered in such unthinkable ways by our own government leaders!!!

So they are preparing the ground by accusing truthsome alternative news reported on the internet of producing "fake news" when it is MSM(Mainstream Media) that has been the biggest "fake news" machine for decades to maintain the mass in a constant state of confusion so it would be almost impossible for any individual to find the real truth of the matter in the midst of massive load of "fake news". Creating CONFUSION so thick to make it almost impossible for most individual to discern the truth -- is the other big power of Mystery Babylon's Empire. I think the Lord has reveal to us the power of the last Beast Empire by its' name : Mystery[secret] Babylon[confusion]

So the Elites also populate most of the "fake news" on the net. Thus their "fake news" claims does have some level of validity while not mentioning that they have produce these also.

Not that I care to know or see these details of who participated in these horrific child crimes. Nor do I think I'm better than any of these Elites or those that are under their commands. But I do believe the Lord used them for a very important purpose : to show the world to what level "the man of sin"(2Thes 2:3) will go and what type of government they will run. This is a necessary pre-event so to create in the people a genuine wanting and thirsting for the coming of God's Kingdom. We have to understand these events in the light of God's Plan as He prepares His kingdom with these events.

Now that the Lord has placed a NON-Babylonian-ESTABLISHMENT man in the lead of the US Government; it will be safe for those that have "true news" to come forward without fearing to be killed by the Ex-Babylonian establishment. Perhaps 2017, is going to be a year where an avalanche of other exposures will come.

The success of "Mystery[secret, hidden] Babylon" lied in the fact that they, their organization, and their agenda remain hidden (in secret) from the mass. However, the coming of the internet to the mass in the 90s did expose their secrets.

This Pedophilia ring circle wasn't only for the purpose to fulfill some leaders sex fantasy so to have some blackmailing material on them afterwards; but many of these children were murdered on Luciferian's ritual altar. They(Luciferian Elites) believe that many children need to be sacrificed in the most atrocious ways so to gain some power. What I've read -- they think the more screams, yells, and horror given to the child -- that this "releases" these children's spirit that in return gives them power.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/12/18/the-coming-war-on-pedophilia/

Dec 18th, 2016

..."Some insiders claim that the DC Establishment greatly fear Trump because he is not believed to be a member of any Secret Society or the Satanic Pedophile Network, which most top Republican, as well as top Democrat Members of Congress, are alleged to be. If true, this would likely make it extremely difficult or impossible for the DC Establishment to control him.

“Trump’s biggest enemies will be those who have been inducted into the large Satanic Pedophile Network (SPN) which is run as a massive human compromise, mind-kontrol system by the COL RKM used to keep initiates compromised, blackmailable and in line. This massive SPN is financed in America by the City of London RKM private Fiat central Banksters through their largest franchise, the Federal Reserve System (FRS).

“…this War on Pedophilia would be a great means for Trump to mobilize the American mothers who are the SPN’s greatest potential enemy. This fact has been stated numerous times publicly by the foremost expert of Pedophilia and sex trafficking Detective James Rothstein (NYCPD Gold Shield, Police Intel, NY Crime Commission Special Squad).

“Trump must activate this rage by publicizing this problem, setting up a clean special independent prosecutor and recommending special grand juries in every state to investigate and charge. If promised protection, numerous seasoned LE and Intel will come forth and present rock solid evidence. Immunity agreements can be made with many folks at the periphery of the SPN who would have otherwise testified against it but for their fear of being immediately murdered.

... Detective Rothstein has claimed that as high as 70% of high USG officials have been compromised by Pedophilia. Two separate investigations of Congress about 25 years ago (one from an FBI deep cover informant, the other by LE Intel) showed that 39% and 42% of male members of the US Congress were so compromised.


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What is Donald Trump’s best path to attain the full agenda that he energetically promised to the American voters?

And what actions could he take that could disprove the DNC and Major Mass Media allegations that he is a billionaire that has always had a silver spoon in his mouth. That he promised everything that dissatisfied Americans wanted to hear just to get elected and once in office will service his wealth one-percenter buddies?

The best advice that can be given to him is to maintain the same strategy that won him the election, to mobilize and strengthen a growing emergent American Populism.

This same American Populism that has emerged largely from the Alternative media of the worldwide Internet now demands and end to DC cronyism and endemic corruption that has occurred at every level of the USG.

Trump’s winning strategy was to mobilize this emergent populist mass dissatisfaction of the American workers and disenfranchised middle class.

Trump’s canny ability to focus on his adversary’s weaknesses were quickly strengthened and magnified by the massive leaks of DNC related emails published by Wikileaks.

And no one yet has provided any evidence these emails were not genuine, and the Controlled Major Mass Media, an illegal News Cartel itself, has accepted them as legitimate despite frequent attempts to paint Trump as an enemy of We The People.

Trump’s campaign strategy, which turned out to be extremely effective included very canny edgy comments delivered daily that grabbed the headlines and main talking points.

His very greatest opposers, the CMMM, is run by six Media Moguls who answer to a large investment house in Switzerland that claims to be on the vanguard of investments.

These CMMM enemies turned out to be Trump’s greatest campaign asset by providing hundreds of millions of dollars of free campaign advertising.

How could this be you might ask, when the CMMM continually broadcast negative reports about Trump?

Most Americans rejected at face value all these negative CMMM taking points about Trump, thus reinforcing their distrust of the USG itself and the CMMM.

The more that the CMMM kept broadcasting anti-Trump news that seemed noticeably biased and false, the more the American masses supported Trump.

I will not recite Trump’s populist agenda here because it is available at numerous sources and most know it by heart already.

City of London statue

But it is fair to say that not only is his agenda going to be extremely difficult to attain as promised, but in fact, his only chance of doing it is to capture a majority of Americans for full and energetic support.

And this means he will have to win some of his opposers over to his way of thinking in full support of his agenda if he is to be able to fully attain it.

Like it or not, the Clinton and Obama Presidencies have been unable to reverse all the massive damage to the American economic system that was created by GHWB and his Cabal and by Bush2, which many now realize was fully authorized by the City of London private Banksters and the Rothschild Khazarian Mafia (RKM).

Two Gulf wars and war in Afghanistan, set up as perpetual wars to be continually lost like Korea and Vietnam, have drained the US taxpayers’ wealth and transferred it to the Defense Contractors (especially the no bid types) and the large RKM related bloodline families which own large blocks of their stock.

How did America end up being run by a foreign espionage front, the City of London Rothschild Khazarian Mafia private Fiat Banksters?

And ever since a major coup d’état against America was successfully implemented in 1913, our manufacturing of US Money and its distribution has been hijacked by a foreign espionage entity dedicated to the complete asset stripping and destruction of America.

The means to do this was for the US Banksters (aka the Federal Reserve, a foreign owned bank, a franchise of the Rothschild City of London private Fiat Banking System), to form a critical alliance with the Saudis and some other Mideast oil producers.

This oil alliance was a three way agreement between the major oil companies, these oil producers and the USG. It involved the US Military and NATO providing complete military protection for these oil producers as long as they agreed to accept US Dollars for their oil.

Nixon and Kissinger
Nixon and Kissinger

This caused the US dollar to become the Reserve Currency for the whole world and the USD became referred to as the US Petro Dollar.

At about the same time, Nixon under the advice of Kissinger, removed the requirement that the US Dollar had to be backed by Gold and Silver, transforming them into Federal Reserve interest bearing Debt notes only.

This was completely unconstitutional and illegal and was soon followed by the theft of all American gold from Fort Knox and other repositories by the COL RKM Banksters.

The bottom line to this hijacking of our own Constitutional money creation and distribution system is this:

We The People have been forced by our own USG to pay usury to use what should have been our own Constitutional money in the first place and have also been forced to pay illegal Federal taxes which were imposed the say way that the COL RKM Banksters hijacked our money creation and distribution system in the first place—by bribing and human compromising our elected politicians and our President to violate the US Constitution and Rule of Law.

Once our Constitution and Rule of Law was violated by these foreign based COL Banksters (an act of blatant foreign espionage against America), it was then easy for these Banksters to proceed to buy off, human compromise and coerce almost every single top USG official, elected or appointed.

Those that don’t cooperate are then voted out by various sophisticated means like massive support for a selected opponent, redistricting, wrongly, falsely smearing. This was done to Representative Cynthia McKinney and also to Senator Dave Durenberger.

Or prosecuting and/or jailing by use of trumped-up fake charges and fake evidence like what was done to Governor Don Siegelman or Representative James Traficant (both were completely innocent).

Some believe that James Traficant was murdered in a staged tractor accident upon orders by the SPC (COL RKM) at his farm after his release from prison.

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Putin and the Russians had nothing to do with the DNC’s emails being leaked and published by Wikileaks.

The claim that he did by elements in the CIA’s top management, DNC leaders and the Controlled Major Mass Media (CMMM) is a psyop to derail Trump’s election win by manipulating the Electoral College electors.

This Psyop is perhaps also based on the fear that Wikileaks is a Mossad Op and Trump is perhaps being manipulated covertly by RKM Zios without his knowledge in a very crafty covert operation to put him in power where they can manipulate and use externally based economic and political forces to manipulate him.

The best guess who provided the DNC emails to Wikileaks which appear to have originated with the NSA raw data is an American Intel group.

A very good bet is that it is a group of deep black, high ranking American Intel insiders who have access to all NSA raw data provided the DNC emails to Wikileaks or some other group that has such access.

This Psyop which wrongly blames Putin obviously ignores is any attention to the fact that none of the leaked emails have been contested and claimed to be untrue.

Nor has the DC Establishment, the FBI or the CMMM viewed them as evidence of major RICO crimes as they should for such crimes as illegally manipulating the nomination process to move Bernie Sanders out of the nomination process. This is where the emphasis should be.

And major LE efforts should be made to prosecute the BCC and many others for all the Mideast war crimes and lies which resulted in the functional financial demise of the USA and millions of needless deaths, including the thousands of dead, suicided and disabled American Soldiers.

Some insiders claim that the DC Establishment greatly fear Trump because he is not believed to be a member of any Secret Society or the Satanic Pedophile Network, which most top Republican, as well as top Democrat Members of Congress, are alleged to be. If true, this would likely make it extremely difficult or impossible for the DC Establishment to control him.

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Trump has no chance to succeed in attaining his agenda unless he deals head on with this massive financial theft and fraud of American wealth by the foreign espionage system (the COL RKM) which runs the Federal Reserve System.

This COL/RKM Banksters system has imposed the massive fraud that We The People owe them trillions of dollars in interest for using what should have been our own money in the first place.

Actually under US Law and the US Constitution we owe them NOTHING. There is no legitimate Federal Debt nor is their self-imposed name the Federal Reserve (“the Fed”) legitimate either. The FRS is no more a part of the USG than federal express which is a private corporation.

With proper executive PDD orders signed by Trump and proper adjudication, the FRS could be eliminated, the owners convicted of massive RICO Financial Fraud and all their assets could be clawed back because there is no statute of limitations on fraud.

So if Trump wants to succeed he will have to credibly communicate the conclusion to We The People that there is no legitimate Federal Debt owed to the FRS (franchisee of the COL RKM private Fiat Banksters) and that this must be immediately corrected with all stolen funds recovered and returned to taxpayers.

Trump must gain massive support of We The People and Congress to dump the FRS. This will be necessary to cancel this phony FRS US National Debt and take the creation and distribution of American money back into the US Treasury, where it must be backed by Gold, Silver clawed back from the COL/RKM Banksters that stole it beginning in 1971. Government owned commodities and real estate can also be used to back the US Dollar.

Trump’s biggest enemies will be those who have been inducted into the large Satanic Pedophile Network (SPN) which is run as a massive human compromise, mind-kontrol system by the COL RKM used to keep initiates compromised, blackmailable and in line.

This massive SPN is financed in America by the City of London RKM private Fiat central Banksters through their largest franchise, the Federal Reserve System (FRS).

This provides endless funds supply of funds to buy, bribe and finance any necessary human compromise operations including the Satanic Pedophile Network which is used to keep top USG Officials and major Corp leaders (including the CMMM moguls) in line, doing what the COL/RKM Banksters and their Superiors demand.

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Perpetual Wars and the Seeds of Gladio

"New Gladio" Italian Fascist front traced to CIA and MOSSAD operations including possible "Islamic" terrorism
“New Gladio”

Historically it has been is generally recognized that for any ruler to consolidate power he must engage in a serious pre-engineered war with another nation or nations.

In the past other leaders split this into real foreign wars (unconstitutional, perpetual, undeclared, unwinnable) and created other “social wars” on the home front, like the war on poverty, the war on crime, the war on drugs, and now the war on terrorism.

The Bush Crime Cabal (BCC) working at the direction of the COL RKM Banksters very craftily created a new major world war that was also brought home to America’s mainland.

This new War on Terror was created through the use of NATO’s Operation Gladio left-behind Nazi Army and hired CIA mercenaries, largely financed by Saudi Arabia.

These disposable mercenaries have been deeply mind-kontrolled by certain large DOD contractors who deployed some very sophisticated mind-kontrol technologies based on remote psychotronic brain entrainment. Their leaders have been high ranking CIA, Mossad and IDF who have all lost their very souls during initiation human compromise rituals.

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If Trump tries to attain his agenda without cancelling the fraudulent imaginary US National Debt, he will be doomed to failure.

Why is this? Because the US Petro Dollar is well on its way to rejection as the world’s reserve currency and in addition this imaginary unconstitutional and illegal multi-trillion dollar FRS debt bomb will finish off We The People by asset stripping us right into the street, homeless unless it is exposed as a fraud and cancelled by Trump as soon as he is seated.

If he tries to cancel this fraudulent imaginary FRS/COL RKM US National Debt without complete populist support of We The People, he will fail because the Satanic Pedophile Network (SPN) runs the CIA and most of DC (including the top Democrats, top Republicans, and every official USG agency, as well as the CMMM.

In practical terms this means that those Democratic and Republican leaders and high USG and Intel officials compromised by their secret evil pedophile addictions and membership in the SPN could be easily coerced by the COL RKM (the folks who control the SPN) to thwart Trump on all fronts.

The only way for Trump to neutralize these opponents is to continue reinforcing American populism and then mobilizing it to attack these high USG and Intel officials held captive by the SPN.

To defeat his opponents and attain his agenda, Trump must create a new War on Pedophilia in America.

He knows that America cannot afford any more expensive foreign wars so it must be a war against evil at home and nothing is more real or more evil, or more easy to prove that the presence of this very large, very powerful SPN that controls the DC Establishment, the top Corporate leaders, Intel and USG agencies.

American mothers are a sleeping populist giant that once awakened can easily be mobilized to attack this large and powerful SPN on all fronts, especially by petitioning, calling, writing and demonstrating against the CMMM who will work to cover it up.

America needs to support Trump in his efforts, if he really wants to drain The Swamp
If Trump really wants and intends to drain The Swamp, then he will need most Americans to support his efforts in this

Once the American mothers find out how massive this Pedophile problem is within the USG and that the CMMM has been covering it up along with the FBI for many years, they will create a massive unending populist sh*t-storm against the SPC, the FBI and the CMMM.

Det. James Rothstein (Ret.), NYCPD Gold Shield, Police Intel, NY Crime Commission Special Squad (now retired). America’s No. 1 expert in sex trafficking, organized pedophile human compromise ops and illegal narcotics trafficking. Responsible for the prosecution and conviction of more high level human compromise criminals than any other LE person in America. Det. Rothstein is a totally stand up man who can be trusted and has a distinguished record that is unmatched.
Det. James Rothstein, NYCPD Gold Shield, Police Intel, NY Crime Commission Special Squad (now retired). America’s No. 1 expert in sex trafficking, organized pedophile human compromise ops and illegal narcotics trafficking. Responsible for the prosecution and conviction of more high level human compromise criminals than any other LE person in America. Det. Rothstein is a totally stand up man who can be trusted and has a distinguished record that is unmatched.

Note that the FBI makes token arrests of the small independent Pedophile Networks that arise from the websites that they themselves set up as entrapment stings to fool the public and keep their cover-up in place.

Trump can take care of these soulless scumbags by bringing massive anti-trust to break up these six CMMM and by prosecuting them for serving as a front for the foreign espionage of the COL/RKM private central Fiat Banksters.

It is these COL/RKM Banksters who are using the FRS trying to completely asset strip the America worker and taxpayer, to start and then destroy America the Republic and Balkanize it into ten separate Globalist/NWO territories.

Actually this War on Pedophilia would be a great means for Trump to mobilize the American mothers who are the SPN’s greatest potential enemy.

This fact has been stated numerous times publicly by the foremost expert of Pedophilia and sex trafficking Detective James Rothstein (NYCPD Gold Shield, Police Intel, NY Crime Commission Special Squad).

Detective Rothstein has claimed that the only effective mass weapon that can be deployed against the Pedophile Network to stop it cold is a change in the laws covering investigation, by providing protection for Police and LE that investigate and prosecute these unimaginably evil crimes.

Effective action must include massive publication of this Pedophile Network by the Alternative Media on the Internet to the point it awakens and angers the mothers of America in mass and drives these facts into the mainstream news.

Detective Rothstein has claimed that as high as 70% of high USG officials have been compromised by Pedophilia. Two separate investigations of Congress about 25 years ago (one from an FBI deep cover informant, the other by LE Intel) showed that 39% and 42% of male members of the US Congress were so compromised.

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Conclusion


Nothing makes American mothers more enraged than pedophile crimes against young defenseless children by high politicians that abuse their power and trust given them by the voters.

Some of these crimes at the highest levels of the SPN include torture, murder, vivisection, cannibalism after the sexual abuse and rape. When the American women become informed of these high level crimes en masse, they will become enraged.

And nothing could ever be more powerful than American Women enraged en masse over these extreme crimes against defenseless children and infants, NOTHING.

Trump must activate this rage by publicizing this problem, setting up a clean special independent prosecutor and recommending special grand juries in every state to investigate and charge.

If promised protection, numerous seasoned LE and Intel will come forth and present rock solid evidence. Immunity agreements can be made with many folks at the periphery of the SPN who would have otherwise testified against it but for their fear of being immediately murdered.

The iron grip over DC of the COL/RKM’s Satanic Pedophile Network (SPN) will be exposed and broken. Trump is the only one that has the power to do this and to mobilize massive emergent American Populism.

Once he has done this, he can fully attack the SPN, which will break the control that the COL/RKM Banksters exercise over America at every level.

If Trump refuses to go after the COL/RKM private Banksters and their espionage front the FRS; refuses to cancel the US National Debt after exposing it as a fraud; refuses to dump the FRS and bring all money creation and distribution into the US Treasury; stop charging interest to use what should have been our own real money in the first place; refuses to prosecute the RKM/COL/FRS kingpin-owners under RICO; refuses to break up the CMM and prosecute them under RICO; refuses to expose the massive existence of the Satanic Pedophile Network and to fully investigate and prosecute all top members to the fullest extent possible under RICO and murder; refuses to mobilize the American mothers in mass to support him and also fight against these soulless pedophile scum in high places; … then we must all assume that he was put in place by the head of the Zionist Globalists themselves by deployment of a very crafty, deep black covert operation.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/02/17 09:34 PM

My comment: Looks like Trump doesn't trust the Mainstream Media(MSM). With Trump currently having over 45 millions followers on social media -- I bet it won't take long for Trump to render Mainstream Media (the presstitutes) totally irrelevant.

Trump to Continue "Freaking Mainstream Media Out", Will "Boldly Use" Twitter For Policy Announcements
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-02...policy-announce
Jan 2, 2017
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Having drawn the ire of the mainstream press for his extensive use of Twitter in announcing major developments and policy shifts, President-elect Donald Trump will not end the "onslaught" of posts on Twitter that fed his unconventional campaign, even after taking on the formalized duties of the Oval Office later this month, as Bloomberg notes following an announcement by incoming White House press secretary Sean Spicer who said he expects Trump "will boldly use" Twitter to make major policy announcements.

Shortly after his victory on November 8, Trump said in an interview on CBS’s “60 Minutes” that he was rethinking his use of social media: “I’m going to be very restrained, if I use it at all, I’m going to be very restrained,” Trump said. That, however, has not happened and since then, during the countdown to Inauguration Day on Jan. 20, he’s shown little sign that he intends to follow that pledge.

In fact, making news and issuing statements on social media sites that also include Facebook and Instagram will “absolutely” continue, despite any prior promises to the contrary, incoming White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.”

“You know what? The fact of the matter is that when he tweets, he gets results,” Spicer said.


“You know, with all due respect, I think it freaks the mainstream media out that he has this following of over 45 plus million people that follow him on social media, that he can have a direct conversation,” Spicer said. “He doesn’t have to have it funneled through the media.”

Indeed, he doesn't, and the fact that the media suddenly finds itself locked out in this most important of information dissemination and filtration pathways, has unleashed the biggest period of soul-searching for the conventional press in decades.

In recent tweets, Trump has hinted he’d like to change decades of policy on nuclear weapons; praised Russian leader Vladimir Putin even after accusations by intelligence agencies that Russia attempted to tamper with U.S. elections; and said the United Nations is a “club for people to get together, talk and have a good time.”

As a result, Trump was scolded by foreign policy experts last month when he used Twitter as the venue to say that the U.S. should greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capacity until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nuclear weapons. For now, if anything, this outside criticism has only emboldened Trump to avoid conventional media outlets.

On Dec. 28, the incoming president tweeted that he was trying to disregard statements by President Barack Obama that he considered “inflammatory.” “Thought it was going to be a smooth transition - NOT!” Trump said in the post.

After Putin said on Dec. 30 that he wouldn’t respond in kind to an Obama administration order expelling 35 Russian diplomats in response to that government’s hacking of Democratic Party officials, Trump tweeted: “Great move on delay (by V. Putin) - I always knew he was very smart!”

A day after praising Putin, Trump raised eyebrows by wishing a “Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies.” New Year’s Day brought a more conciliatory greeting ”to all Americans” that cast ahead to “a wonderful & prosperous 2017 as we work together.”

Trump’s tweets have also targeted specific companies, including Lockheed Martin Corp. for what the president-elect termed “out of control” costs for the F-35 fighter jet, and Boeing Co. for “ridiculous” costs to build a new 747 Air Force One for future presidents. “Cancel order!” Trump said in a Twitter post on Dec. 6, sending Boeing shares lower.

Trump currently has 18.3 million followers on Twitter, 16.8 million on Facebook and 4.5 million on Instagram. He has tweeted more than 34,000 times since joining the social media platform in 2009.

As Bloomberg adds, Spicer was asked on “This Week” about Trump’s Twitter statement on Dec. 22 that the U.S. “must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capacity until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes.”

Surprisingly, despite having the president-elect as the brand's most vocal and prominent ambassador in the world, Twitter continues to lose key personnel, most recently on December 30, when in a series of Tweets, Twitter’s Managing Director for Greater China Operations Kathy Chen says that as the Twitter APAC team is working directly with Chinese advertisers, it is the right time for her to leave the company. She joined Twitter less than 8 months ago, in April of 2016.

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Aside from the topic of Trump's tweeting, Spicer also said on Sunday that the White House may have disproportionately punished Russia by ordering the expulsion of 35 suspected Russian spies. Spicer said that Trump will be asking questions of U.S. intelligence agencies after President Barack Obama imposed sanctions last week on two Russian intelligence agencies over what he said was their involvement in hacking political groups in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

"One of the questions that we have is why the magnitude of this? I mean you look at 35 people being expelled, two sites being closed down, the question is, is that response in proportion to the actions taken? Maybe it was; maybe it wasn't but you have to think about that," Spicer said.

Trump is to have briefings with intelligence agencies this week after his return from vacation to New York on Sunday. On Saturday, Trump expressed continued skepticism over whether Russia was responsible for computer hacks of Democratic Party officials.

"I think it's unfair if we don't know. It could be somebody else. I also know things that other people don't know so we cannot be sure," Trump said. He said he would disclose some information on the issue on Tuesday or Wednesday, without elaborating. It is unclear if, upon taking office on Jan. 20, he would seek to roll back Obama's actions, which mark a post-Cold War low in U.S.-Russian ties.

Spicer said that after China in 2015 seized records of U.S. government employees "no action publicly was taken. Nothing, nothing was taken when millions of people had their private information, including information on security clearances that was shared. Not one thing happened." "So there is a question about whether there's a political retribution here versus a diplomatic response," he added.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/03/17 11:26 PM

Yep, you waited for it and here it is:
Originally Posted By: kland
#138560 - 01/02/12 "about a new global economic restructuring arising in 2012".

#148963 - 01/11/13 "I think they had thought that it would of been done before 2012 ended, however, it is taking longer.... We'll see what the Lord will accomplish this year. "

#158982 - 12/05/13 "No-one know the date, however the signs are all around us. "

Hmmmm. If not in 2014, at least by the beginning of 2015. And if not at the beginning of 2015, at least by the end.....

2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017?

Originally Posted By: Elle
Be careful – for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

AV Dt 13: 1 . If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Things that make you go hmmmm....
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/11/17 03:12 AM

My comment : This is an edited shortened version (focusing only on what Dr. Steve Peinezic has to say) of the full video from Alex Jones, which aired 1-3-17.

Very informative of what is currently happening behind the scenes. Things you won't hear on Mainstream Media. I don't have time to give a summary (hopefully Stephen Jones or someone else will do one) but I highly recommend to listen to it. Many very encouraging events that is currently going on in the US government.

One thing mentioned, that I was very happy to hear is they are planning to prosecute those responsible for killing millions of people thru the wars (Irak, Syria, Lybia, Ukraine, etc...) sold by the Presstitutes via false flag operation since 9/11.

So this court case might become one of the major event in 2017 for all the world to hear about the international crimes cases that has happened since 9/11. I expect an avalanche of truths to the people will be poured out from these court cases.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/12/17 02:31 AM

My comment : Dr. Steve Pieczenik shared at the end of the 30 min. youtube video above the issues revolving around North Korea. The history that he shared was quite interesting. But basically the point he made is that North Korea and other countries having no trading market, would suffer excessive inflation thus poverty, hunger, etc... when their currency will suffer some lost.

Dr. Steve Piezenik talks about this with deep concern that a solution has to be found as we cannot let that happen. I agree and I'm glad that they are thinking in such fashion.

Well the article below shares the current protest occurring in Mexico due to ongoing worsened poverty and foreseeing things getting worst with the Trump administration. So the country is about to break into a revolution and overthrow their corrupt government.

The author of the article suggest that we need to talk about it. I think it would be great for the US to find a solution that isn't going to kill our neighbors via starvation when it is the US trade policies and its narco trafficking operations inside Mexico that are largely responsible for their current situation. And from what Dr. Pieczenik and the alternative media, that's the similar situation with North Korea...the US (well via its hi-jacked government) was also involved in creating this separation of Korea into the North and the South. The South became a US trading partner while the North was sanctioned and suffered great lost since.

Protests In Mexico Push Country To Brink Of Revolution And Nobody's Talking About It

http://theantimedia.org/protests-mexico-brink-revolution/

Jan 10, 2017

Nick Bernabe

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(ANTIMEDIA) San Diego, CA — Long-simmering social tensions in Mexico are threatening to boil over as failing neoliberal reforms to the country’s formerly nationalized gas sector are compounded by open corruption, stagnant standards of living, and rampant inflation.

The U.S. media has remained mostly mute on the situation in Mexico, even as the unfolding civil unrest has closed the U.S.-Mexico border in San Diego, California, several times in the past week. Ongoing “gasolinazo” protests in Mexico over a 20 percent rise is gas prices have led to over 400 arrests, 250 looted stores, and six deaths. Roads are being blockaded, borders closed, and government buildings are being sacked. Protests have remained relatively peaceful overall, except for several isolated violent acts, which activists have blamed on government infiltrators.

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The few mainstream news reports that have covered the situation blame rising gas prices but fail to examine several other factors that are pushing Mexico to the brink of revolution.
‘Narco-state’ corruption

The narco-state, or as Mexican activists say, “el narco-gobierno,” is a term used to describe the open corruption between the Mexican government and drug cartels. The narco-state has been in the headlines lately over the kidnapping and presumed murder of 43 Ayotzinapa students in Iguala, Guerrero, in 2014. This has been a source of continuous anti-government protests ever since.

Though the kidnappings remain officially unsolved, members of the Guerrero Unidos drug cartel have admitted to colluding with local police forces to silence the student activists. Twenty police officers have been arrested in association with the kidnapping. Former Iguala police chief Felipe Flores has been arrested and “accused of offenses including organized crime and kidnapping the students,” the AP reports. The corruption apparently goes all the way to the top, as federal authorities say former Iguala mayor José Luis Abarca personally ordered the kidnappings.
One Mexican activist who wished to remain anonymous told Anti-Media that “a lot of people think it’s only the gasoline prices, but the price of gas is just the straw that broke the camel’s back. It all started with Ayotzinapa.”

Much like the U.S., the Mexican government is susceptible to corporate influence. It just so happens that the most influential corporate entities in Mexico are drug cartels — and it’s hard for the government to reign in entities that fund and infiltrate it. Similar to the phenomenon of “regulatory capture,” the Mexican government is at least partially funded and co-opted by drug cartels. This festering problem is an underlying factor in the current civil unrest in Mexico.

Neoliberal policies left the working class behind

NAFTA was a contentious issue in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, but it’s just as controversial in Mexico, if not more so. The grand 1994 “free trade” scheme, signed into law by Bill Clinton, saw a dramatic redesign of both the U.S. and Mexican economic landscapes. Corn farmers, long a vital factor in Mexico’s peasant farming economy, were wiped out by low-priced corn subsidized by the U.S. government, which immediately flooded Mexican markets after NAFTA was passed. The Mexican immigration crisis at the U.S.’ southern border soon followed.

Meanwhile, manufacturing plants soon began moving into Mexico from the U.S. to take advantage of extremely cheap labor — leaving many workers in the U.S. out of a job. American agricultural corporations like Driscoll’s have recently come under fire for employing slave-like labor conditions to produce boutique organic fruit for U.S. consumers. Protests for workers rights in Mexico, which recently raised its minimum wage to 80 pesos (~$4) per day, are often met with heavy-handed police crackdowns.

Incoming President Trump has capitalized on two issues caused by NAFTA — the immigration crisis and outsourcing of U.S. jobs — and his reactionary protectionist economic policies will undoubtedly make Mexico’s predicament even worse.

Mexico’s nationalized oil conglomerate, Pemex, has been plagued by falling production for years. Corruption, which is inherent to state-run institutions, has condemned Mexico’s gas industry to inefficiency and stalled innovation. Theft has become a widespread issue, and oil workers were recently caught red-handed siphoning gas directly out of pipelines.

Supposedly to ramp up production and lower prices, the Mexican government pushed through neoliberal privatization schemes in 2013 and 2014, which were backed by U.S. oil interests and incubated by the Hillary Clinton-run State Department. President Enrique Peña Nieto promised the reforms would result in increased production and lower fuel prices, though production has fallen and prices spiked 20 percent on January 1st. Prices are expected to rise even further, as fuel subsidies will be completely phased out by March 2017. Peña Nieto claims the prices must go up to match international prices, though consumers in the U.S. currently pay less for gas than Mexicans.

Peña Nieto’s neoliberal reforms have fallen flat as economic growth has been anemic for years and wealth inequality has grown out of control.
Rampant inflation in Mexico

Perhaps the biggest driver of the current civil upheaval in Mexico is out of control inflation coupled with the value of the peso reaching record lows. Mexican workers are already stretched thin financially as minimum wage hovers at four U.S. dollars per day. Food prices, which were on the rise before the gas price increases, are set to climb 20 percent or more as they correlate closely with prices at the pump.

According to Zero Hedge, in Mexico, it currently takes “the equivalent of 12 days of a minimum wage to fill a tank of gas — compared to the U.S.’ seven hours.” People who don’t drive will also feel the pain, as public transportation costs are likely to rise with fuel prices. Rising gas prices also put downward pressure on the rest of the Mexican economy as workers spend more money on gas and less on consumer goods.

The Mexican government’s deficit spending and Trump’s tough talk on trade have been factors in devaluing the peso, making everything in Mexico more expensive for the working class and driving the general discontent that makes the country a hotbed of unrest.
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Overall, no one factor can be blamed for causing extreme levels of unrest in Mexico. Before the Ayotzinapa student kidnappings, Mexico was already seeing widespread protests, marches, and strikes. The last several presidential elections have been contested, and the current administration of Enrique Peña Nieto has only a 22 percent approval rating. The general feeling of helplessness in the face of narco-state corruption and economic insecurity is not going away with the next election or protest, and wealth inequality in the country is beyond remedy. Mexico is ripe for revolution. Whether it’s triggered now by the gas gouging and subsequent inflation or in the near future, it’s coming — and we should be talking about it.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/12/17 07:24 PM

My comment : there's 2 excellent video clips in this article. The first one, I cannot bring the clip here. Click on the source link to view that video. The second is included in the article below. Then there's a third one that is now un-viewable. Too bad.

Trump Blasts CNN's "FAKE NEWS", Says "Credibility Will Soon Be Gone!"
Jan 12, 2017

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-12...ll-soon-be-gone

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One day after totally shutting down CNN's Jim Acosta at his first press conference as President-elect, Trump continues to hammer CNN tweeting that they're "in a total meltdown with their FAKE NEWS because their ratings are tanking since election and their credibility will soon be gone!"

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Of course this is likely, at least in part, a reaction to a clash that occured last night between CNN's Anderson Cooper and Kellyanne Conway in which Cooper, despite his network's clear reporting errors, said "I think you guys are feeling the heat. [Our report] was actually backed up by not only by multiple sources but other news agencies." Of course, Conway was quick to shut down Cooper's deflection:

“What heat do we feel? That you’ve got this raw information, this complete ridiculous fake news?”

“I know CNN must be feeling the heat today of having a headline yesterday at around 6:30 p.m. that said, quote, ‘Intel chiefs presented Trump with information that Russia had information to compromise him. That is just false.”

“It has not been backed up by credible news sources. Actually, it’s just fake, it’s not even news, I can’t even use ‘news’ for it.”



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For those who missed it, here are the epic exchanges from yesterday.

In an epic (mutual) trolling between president-elect Trump on one hand and BuzzFeed and CNN, on the other, the two media organizations which issued yesterday's unsubstantiated report about Russia having compromising information on the president-elect, Trump first addressed the question of why he referred to Nazi Germany, saying it is "disgraceful" that intelligence communities would allow the release of any information. "That's something Nazi Germany would have done and did do," he says.

He then unleashed on Buzzfeed which alone published the 35-page memo behind the Russian allegations, saying "Buzzfeed which is a failing pile of garbage... will suffer the consequences"

And then, in an even more stunning episode, Trump slammed CNN reporter Jim Acosta, who he also called out during the presser over their report on a two-page synopsis they claim was presented to Trump.

With Trump looking to call on other reporters, Jim Acosta yelled out, “Since you are attacking us, can you give us a question?”

“Not you,” Trump said. “Your organization is terrible!”

Acosta pressed on, “You are attacking our news organization, can you give us a chance to ask a question, sir?” Trump countered by telling him “don’t be rude.”

“I’m not going to give you a question,” Trump responded. “Don't be rude. I’m not going to give you a question. You are fake news!” Trump responded, before calling on a reporter from Breitbart.





A snubbed Jim Acosta then tweeted the following: "Fortunately ABC's Cecilia Vega asked my question about whether any Trump associates contacted Russians. Trump said no."

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Fortunately ABC's Cecilia Vega asked my question about whether any Trump associates contacted Russians. Trump said no.
1:24 PM - 11 Jan 2017
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Trump also had some "kind words" for the BBC:



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These exchanges followed an initial statement by Trump spokesman Sean Spicer who said that "for all the talk lately about 'fake news,' this political witch hunt by some in the media...is frankly shameful & disgraceful.... Highly irresponsible for a left-wing blog... to drop highly salacious and flat out false information on the Internet."

Following this, we expect the war between Trump and the media in general, or at least CNN in particular, to reach biblical proportions.


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/13/17 10:16 PM

List of US coups in other countries since 1949

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...ies-since-1949/

Jan 13, 2017

By Steven Jones
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Here is a listing of the countries where the CIA has interfered since the late 1940’s, either in their elections or by supporting military or political coups. It seems to me that the hand-wringing going on today over Russia’s alleged interference in the recent US election is the height of hypocrisy. Apparently, it is okay for the US to interfere whenever they want, but it is not okay for others to interfere in our own political process. Such double standards are severely condemned in Scripture, and Jesus Himself said that men would be judged according to the way that they treated others (Matthew 7:2).

http://theduran.com/the-list-of-foreign-governments-overthrown-by-the-us-and-cia-is-massive/

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“Perhaps the reasons behind the rushed, and frankly humiliating, report is that US intelligence was scrambling to respond to the first ever case of someone doing to it what the US had done to the rest of the world for decades without any fear of retaliation.”

China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009
Libya 2011 *
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/17/17 08:35 PM

My comment : Looks like the UN is having a change of heart. Very encouraging to see.

Very good historical account and comments of what is currently happening in "Israel" with the latest UN decision regarding 2 separate states in Palestine.

Here's one of the recent news clip about the latest UN 2 States solution that Dr. Jones comments on.

70 nations gather in Paris to discuss two-state solution, Israel & Palestinian Authority skip : https://www.rt.com/news/373743-paris-conference-israel-palestine-conflict/

Dividing God's Land

Jan 16, 2017

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On December 23, 2016 the United Nations passed a resolution, with the US representative abstaining, to enforce their original division of Palestine and to create a two-state solution.

Many Christians are crying foul, as if the Palestinian state has no right to exist. They cite Joel 3:2, where God says He will judge those who “have divided up My land.” But prophecy is not always what men think it is. Oftentimes, in order for prophecy to be fulfilled, God has to blind people, for if they truly understood it, they would try to avoid it or would work against it.

A good example of this is when the chief priests crucified Jesus. (No, it was not the Romans who did it.) None of them understood that the sacrifices all prophesied of Jesus and His death on the cross to redeem the world. They did not know that it was necessary for Him to die to fulfill His mission. Their only motive was to prevent Him from claiming the position as Messiah, because He would have fired them from their positions of power and (worse yet) He would have made peace with the Romans!

So they blindly crucified Him, thinking they could dispose of their problem, not realizing that they were, in fact, fulfilling prophecy. Furthermore, the priests had to do it, because they were the only ones eligible to offer acceptable sacrifices to God at that time. There was no prophecy that commanded non-priests (such as the Romans) to make such a sacrifice.

So also has God blinded most of the Christians today in regard to the prophecy of the restoration of Israel and, in particular, the division of “My land.”

The Partition of Palestine

On November 29, 1947 the United Nations passed the Palestinian Resolution after debating it for eight days. The resolution called for a “Partition of Palestine,” giving the Zionist Jews a “homeland,” a portion of Palestinian land. That resolution did not call for a Jewish “state,” but only set up a Jewish “homeland.” That point, in fact, was debated hotly before it was passed. In other words, the UN did not give the Zionists the right to create their own Jewish “state.” The State was declared by the Zionist leaders on May 14, 1948, and this went beyond the terms of the UN resolution. From that point on, the Jewish state was at odds with the United Nations, but in spite of resolution after resolution, the US either vetoed them or the Israelis ignored them.

Nonetheless, the Church hailed this division as a great fulfillment of prophecy. At the time, no one raised the question of dividing the land, because that division benefited Zionist interests at the expense of the Palestinians. Zionists were given a piece of the pie, but the Zionists then wanted the whole pie.

Yet today, when the UN tries to enforce that earlier partition, the Zionist Christians are crying foul. They were happy to accept the 1947 resolution, but now they think it is a travesty. Why? Because in the interim, the Israelis have ignored more than 30 UN resolutions and have gone far past their mandate. Now they claim the entire land and blame the Palestinians for not leaving immediately. They blame the Palestinians for wanting a place to live. A Palestinian state does not have the right to exist! Conversely, they complain that the Palestinians deny the Jewish state’s “right to exist.” It is the pot calling the kettle black.

The Church was happy to accept a Palestinian state alongside of a Jewish homeland in 1947. They rejoiced when the resolution was passed. By the Spirit, they agreed to this. In fact, their entire foundation of modern prophecy rests upon that Palestinian Resolution that divided the land. Without it, the Palestinians own it all. Without it, there is no division of the land. Ignoring this, they appeal directly to prophecy, as if prophecy is divorced from His law. No, prophecy is based upon His law and to be valid, it must be fulfilled in a lawful manner. When prophecy is lawless, you can be sure that some are misunderstanding and misapplying it.

From the standpoint of spiritual authority, keep in mind that in 1947 the church under Pentecost still had full spiritual authority in the world, as they fulfilled the pattern of King Saul. Saul had not died yet, for the man reigned 40 years, and the church was to reign 40 Jubilees, ending in 1993. Hence, when the church, acting as Saul, agreed to the UN resolution in 1947, their decision was written in the courts of heaven—for better or for worse.

Fulfilling Prophecy by the Power of the Flesh

If you do not understand how this works, study the story of Joshua’s covenant with the Gibeonites and how God judged Saul for violating that covenant three hundred years later. Saul was a nationalist and thought that God did not care about Gibeonites. He believed that the land should not be divided and that only Israelites should inherit the land. He loved only Israel, after all, so he thought he could get away with killing or expelling these non-chosen people. But many years later God judged Israel with a famine. (2 Samuel 21:1).

When men try to fulfill prophecy by carnal understanding, they bring judgment upon themselves and other people. Jacob had to learn that hard lesson as well, after lying to his father (Genesis 27:19) to fulfill the prophecy that “the older will serve the younger.” (Genesis 25:23). When men sin in order to make prophecy happen by the power of the flesh, it shows their lack of faith in the sovereignty of God. Their faith is not yet perfect.

Zionism is a Fleshly Movement

Zionism is based on the assumption that the Jews are allowed to duplicate the calling of Joshua in his conquest of Canaan. That conquest, accomplished by physical swords, was in turn based upon the Old Covenant (Exodus 19), where God came as fire, shook the mountain, and spoke the Ten Commandments. But the people were too fearful to hear the voice of God for themselves, so they ran from the mount and told Moses to hear God and to tell them what God said (Exodus 20:18-21).

This day was thereafter celebrated as the Feast of Weeks, which was later known by the Greek term Pentecost. Not having the ability to hear God’s voice for themselves cut them off from the provision of the New Covenant and postponed the fulfillment of Pentecost for 1480 years. When the 120 disciples gathered in the upper room to hear God’s voice for themselves, they fulfilled the feast where Israel had failed in the time of Moses.

The word of God is the Sword of the Spirit, by which the Great Commission was to be accomplished. The second Joshua (Jesus) knew the heart of His Father, and He understood that the Father’s desire was not to kill Canaanite unbelievers, but to convert them and incorporate them into His Kingdom. But to do this required a spiritual sword coming from one’s mouth as a sharp, fiery sword. This was the sword that the Israelites failed to receive under Moses. Being left only with physical swords, their mandate was to conquer Canaan by carnal warfare.

That Old Covenant, however, is no longer valid, for both Israel and Judah invalidated it by their persistent disobedience. Jesus brought in a New Covenant, which called for new and better methods of conquering and establishing the Kingdom. Zionism does not recognize that new method, even though it comes from the heart of God. So the Zionists have sought to exterminate the Palestinians or to drive them out of the land in the same way that happened under the Old Covenant.

Those who remain under the yoke of Judaism are blind to the New Covenant, thinking that the New Covenant is simply a revival of the Old Covenant. I understand that. But Christians ought to know better. Yet most Christians too are blind to the distinctions between the two covenants. This blindness causes them to support Old Covenant actions as if they are still valid. This is the “leaven” in Pentecostal offering (Leviticus 23:17), which can only be resolved by the “fire” of the Holy Spirit’s baptism.

This blindness causes Christians to act like King Saul. Though Saul’s anointing was valid, his methods were not, and in the end, Saul was replaced by David, who represents the overcomers.

The Jewish state was founded by carnally-minded Zionists who not only had rejected Jesus Christ but were also Jewish apostates. Judaism itself had long established the principle that Jews should not return to the old land until the Messiah had come. But Zionism broke that principle, and there are many Jewish groups today who are quite vocal about it.

Zionism is not founded upon the love of God, but upon the love for Israel. The difference is that the Father’s love is all-inclusive; the love of Israel is exclusive. The law of God commands Israel to apply the law of love equally to all men, including foreigners. The laws of the Zionists command men to kill or oppress their non-Jewish neighbors. When the Palestinians try to defend themselves, they are blamed for terrorism and murder.

But who started this terrorism and murder? It was not the Palestinians who immigrated to Europe to oppress the Jews and to take their land. Those who live by the Old Covenant do not really know God, nor understand His love or even His law. Jesus did, however, and that is why He treated Samaritans, Greeks, and even Romans with respect and with love. This aggravated the Jewish leaders to no end.

The Case of Mistaken Identity

Joel 3:2 says “they have divided up My land.” Who did this? It does not say directly. To learn the answer, one must look at Ezekiel 35 and 36. These are the prophecies about Edom (Greek: Idumea), the descendants of Esau who had desired to inherit that land and who begrudged Jacob for getting the land as his inheritance. The prophet puts words in Edom’s mouth, saying, “These two nations and these two lands [Israel and Judah] will be mine, and we will possess them” (Ezekiel 35:10).

Joel 3:19 lists Edom among the adversaries dividing “My land,” but Joel does not specifically tell us that Edom is the problem. But Ezekiel 36:5 speaks of “Edom, who appropriated My land for themselves as a possession.”

The Palestinians are not Edom, though some have tried to identity them as Edom for propaganda purposes. Anyone can look up the history of Edom or Idumea in any history book or any encyclopedia. All historians agree that Edom was conquered by Judah and forced to convert to Judaism around 126-125 B.C. Historians further tell us that from then on, the nation of Edom ceased to exist as a separate nation. In other words, as The Jewish Encyclopedia itself has said, “Edom is in modern Jewry.”

Hence, if you want to condemn men for “dividing My land,” look to Edom, which is in modern Jewry. They are the ones who have appropriated God’s land for themselves. They are the ones who have divided the land for themselves. A century ago they pressured the UN to divide the land in order to give Jewish immigrants a foothold. Once they established a foothold, then they “appropriated My land for themselves,” trying to take both Israel and Judah for themselves, as Ezekiel prophesies.

Zionists now call for divine judgment upon those who divide the land. They do not realize that they are calling for judgment upon the Israeli state itself. Few understand the principle of God, who shows mercy to the merciful. God often allows men to judge themselves by deceiving them into thinking that they are judging other people. God ends up judging men and nations by the very standard by which they judge others.

That is what is happening today. Christian Zionists have aligned with Jewish Zionists under the Old Covenant to pass judgment upon the Palestinians as if they were ancient Canaanites. But God has blinded their eyes in order to see what is in their hearts and judge all parties equally. Expect to see this come to a climax by the end of 2017, which is the 70th anniversary of the Palestinian Resolution. We may also see a secondary event in May of 2018, marking the 70th anniversary of the Israeli state, which was founded May 14, 1948.

For a more complete history of this, see my book, The Struggle for the Birthright.
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/18/17 01:26 AM

Elle seems to be ignoring your post and I wonder why???
Originally Posted By: kland
Yep, you waited for it and here it is:
Originally Posted By: kland
#138560 - 01/02/12 "about a new global economic restructuring arising in 2012".

#148963 - 01/11/13 "I think they had thought that it would of been done before 2012 ended, however, it is taking longer.... We'll see what the Lord will accomplish this year. "

#158982 - 12/05/13 "No-one know the date, however the signs are all around us. "

Hmmmm. If not in 2014, at least by the beginning of 2015. And if not at the beginning of 2015, at least by the end.....

2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017?

Originally Posted By: Elle
Be careful – for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

AV Dt 13: 1 . If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Things that make you go hmmmm....
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/18/17 01:38 AM

Hmmmm.....
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/19/17 05:30 PM

I wonder what "Dr" Jones is a doctor of... Lamb fleecing? Sheep's clothes tailoring? False prophesying?
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/21/17 05:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
Elle seems to be ignoring your post and I wonder why???
Originally Posted By: kland
Yep, you waited for it and here it is:
Originally Posted By: kland
#138560 - 01/02/12 "about a new global economic restructuring arising in 2012".

#148963 - 01/11/13 "I think they had thought that it would of been done before 2012 ended, however, it is taking longer.... We'll see what the Lord will accomplish this year. "

#158982 - 12/05/13 "No-one know the date, however the signs are all around us. "

Hmmmm. If not in 2014, at least by the beginning of 2015. And if not at the beginning of 2015, at least by the end.....

2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017?

Originally Posted By: Elle
Be careful – for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

AV Dt 13: 1 . If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Things that make you go hmmmm....

The sad thing about false prophecies is that they cause many to stumble and fall while they remain undetermined. If someone were to speak against them, he would be denounced as papal, demonic and a hater of what "God is saying to the present generation" and "present truth": in short, the devil incarnate.

It is VERY sad that false prophets must be given rope to hang themselves, time to shut them up; even as their lies cause the truth to be trampled and cast off by those who willfully deceive others and themselves.

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/21/17 08:52 PM

My comment : In brief.....Europe is gathering to also separate from Mystery Babylon corrupt system and clean their own pond. Now that the US has regained their sovereignty (they still need to clean their own pond and rebuild tho), the other captive countries can also do the same without the fear of the US war & sanction treats anymore.

Europe’s Nationalist Leaders kick off year of Election Hopes

http://dailywesterner.com/news/2017-01-2...election-hopes/

Jan 21, 2017

"A unique currency is an instrument capable of destroying the EU economy, and countries should be able to leave the euro if they want, leader of the French National Front (FN) Marine Le Pen said at a gathering of Europe’s right-wing parties in Germany.

"“I don’t say every country has to leave the euro… But we have to leave the possibility if a country wants to leave,” she said, and the audience welcomed the words with loud applause

“The key factor that is going to set in course all the dominoes of Europe is Brexit. A sovereign people chose… to decide its destiny itself,” Le Pen said.

“We are experiencing the end of one world and the birth of another. It’s a return to the nation states.”

According to Le Pen, 2017 will be “the year of the awakening of people of continental Europe.”



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KOBLENZ, Germany — Declaring that 2017 will be the “year of the awakening of the people of continental Europe,” French nationalist presidential hopeful Marine Le Pen joined fellow nationalists Saturday at a conference in Germany to a show of populist confidence as Europe faces a series of high-stakes national elections.

Matteo Salvini (Lega Nord Italy), Harald Vilimsky (FPÖ Austria) Geert Wilders (PVV Netherlands), Marcus Pretzell (AfD Germany), Marine Le Pen (NF France), Frauke Petry (AfD Germany), Gerolf Annemans (Vlaams Belang Belgium)

Nationalist parties have been surging in polls in Europe and the leaders’ mood was celebratory as they came together in support of one another, the day after Donald Trump was sworn in as U.S. president following a campaign buoyed by anti-establishment and protectionist themes.

A unique currency is an instrument capable of destroying the EU economy, and countries should be able to leave the euro if they want, leader of the French National Front (FN) Marine Le Pen said at a gathering of Europe’s right-wing parties in Germany.

“I don’t say every country has to leave the euro… But we have to leave the possibility if a country wants to leave,” she said, and the audience welcomed the words with loud applause, according to Reuters. She added that a “unique currency” is an instrument “to destroy the economy.”

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Speaking at a meeting in Koblenz, Germany described as an “EU counter-summit,” she predicted Brexit would trigger a domino effect.

“The key factor that is going to set in course all the dominoes of Europe is Brexit. A sovereign people chose… to decide its destiny itself,” Le Pen said.

“We are experiencing the end of one world and the birth of another. It’s a return to the nation states.”

According to Le Pen, 2017 will be “the year of the awakening of people of continental Europe.”

Le Pen called the EU “a force of sterilization,” adding that “everyone sees that this migration policy is a daily disaster.”

One of the speakers at the gathering, which comes one day after Donald Trump was sworn in as US president, was Dutch right-wing MEP Geert Wilders.

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“Yesterday, a new America. Today, hello Koblenz, a new Europe!” Wilders said.

“The people of the west are awakening. They are throwing off the yoke of political correctness. This year will be the year of the people… the year of liberation, the year of the patriotic spring.”

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AfD co-chair Frauke Petry once against criticized the migrant policy of Germany, saying that Berlin calls for tolerance,“while hundreds of thousands, millions, of mostly illiterate young men from a far and partly violent culture invade our continent.”

In the meantime, around 3,000 activists protesting against the summit of the right wing parties have gathered outside the venue of the ‘Freedom for Europe’ congress in Koblenz, AFP reported, citing organizers.

“Koblenz stays colourful – No room for rightwing populism,” banners held by demonstrators read.

Demonstrators block the street to a hotel where a meeting of European nationalists is planned in Koblenz, Germany, Saturday, Jan. 21, 2017.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/22/17 08:59 PM

My comment: There's a major woman Protest currently in Washington DC. It is not surprising to find Soros behind this also. Here's another carricature that tells what's going on in one picture.

An Alternative Perspective On Today's "Women's March"
What was the March about again?

Further reading : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-22/ex-wsj-reporter-finds-soros-has-ties-more-50-partners-women%E2%80%99s-march-washington
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/24/17 04:27 AM

My comment: Good world map of the % undervalued currencies in relation to the overvalued $US currencies (go to source link to see). Those that sees a coming re-evaluation of currencies within the reset to reflect more the "true value" of countries versus "fake value" as it is set now -- might benefit in transferring their worthless US dollars (or other currencies) and investing these in foreign currencies that is under-valued? I'm hearing some people are doing this; but we'll see how much these people will benefit from this unique opportunity.

The US Dollar Is Now Overvalued Against Almost Every Currency In The World
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-23...-currency-world

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In September 1986, The Economist weekly newspaper published its first-ever “Big Mac Index”.

It was a light-hearted way for the paper to gauge whether foreign currencies are over- or under-valued by comparing the prices of Big Macs around the world.



In theory, the price of a Big Mac in Rio de Janeiro should be the same as a Big Mac in Cairo or Toronto.

After all, no matter where in the world you buy one, a Big Mac generally consists of the same ingredients– two all beef patties, special sauce, etc.

A Big Mac currently sells for 49 pesos in Mexico, for example; at the current exchange rate, that’s about $2.23 US dollars.

Meanwhile in Switzerland, a Big Mac sells for 6.50 francs, or roughly USD $6.35.

This means that a Big Mac in Switzerland costs 2.8x as much as the exact same burger in Mexico.

Obviously there are a LOT of differences between Switzerland and Mexico that would ordinarily lead to some difference in price.

But 2.8x is clearly excessive, suggesting that the Mexican peso is undervalued relative to the Swiss franc.

The most recent Big Mac Index was just released last week.

It shows that the US dollar is currently OVERVALUED against almost every currency in the world.



Canada. Russia. UK. South Africa. Turkey. Poland. Colombia. Philippines. Euro Area. Australia.

The average price of a Big Mac in each of these countries is dramatically cheaper than in the United States.

The Economist’s data show, for example, that the average Big Mac price in the US is $5.06.

(By the way, that’s 17% higher than the average US price of $4.37 that the newspaper reported in January 2013… not that there’s been any inflation.)

In Canada, however, the paper reports an average price of $6 Canadian dollars, or USD $4.51 at current exchange rates.

This suggests that the Canadian dollar is about 11% undervalued relative to the US dollar.

In the Euro area, the average price of a Big Mac is 3.88 euros, about $4.06 based on current exchange rates.

That implies the euro is 20% undervalued against the US dollar.

In places like Malaysia, South Africa, and Russia, it’s even more extreme, with local currencies 60%+ undervalued against the US dollar.

It’s important to understand what this means.

The fact that the dollar is overvalued isn’t some big prize. It’s not an indication that America is #1, the dollar is King, or that the US economy is strong.

This is a bubble.

Currencies, just like stocks and bonds, are assets traded in global financial markets.

And just like stocks and bonds, currencies can be in a bubble.

You may remember the dot-com bubble of the 1990s, when the stock prices of laughable websites (like Pets.com) soared to unimaginable heights.

As with all bubbles, that one eventually burst, and stock prices crashed.

The US dollar has been in a bubble for more than two years.

Yes, there are clearly a number of fundamental differences between the United States and other countries that would lead to natural exchange rate imbalances.

But again, we’re not talking about the US dollar being overvalued by 5% or 10%. We’re talking about EXTREME differences that are completely irrational.

And it’s not just Big Macs either.

Nearly every shred of objective data suggests that the US dollar is overvalued.

The “US Dollar Index,” for example, which measures the US dollar’s value against an entire group of currencies like the euro, Japanese yen Canadian dollar, etc., is currently at its highest level in 14 years.

Politicians and policymakers hate this.

They ignore all the benefits of a strong currency, and instead claim that a strong dollar makes US goods and services too expensive for foreigners to buy, which hurts exports.

Donald Trump told the Wall Street Journal last week that the US dollar is “too strong. And it’s killing us.”

On that single statement alone, the dollar index fell 1%.

Fed Chair Janet Yellen has also weighed in on the overvalued US dollar, calling it “a drag on U.S. growth”.

No one has a crystal ball, and it’s impossible to predict precisely WHEN this bubble starts to deflate.

In fact, it’s possible that the dollar becomes even stronger than it is today.

But when the two most powerful policymakers in the country both want the US dollar to get weaker, it’s pretty clear what’s going to happen.

This means that, right now, if you’re holding US dollars, you have an opportunity.

The evidence shows that the dollar is irrationally overvalued, and both the Federal Reserve and the US government want it to be weaker.

The evidence also shows that there are plenty of foreign currencies which are heavily UNDER-valued against the US dollar.

The old saying in investing is “Buy Low, Sell High.”

It also works the other way: “Sell High, Buy Low.”

And that is precisely the opportunity right now: to SELL overvalued US dollars at their 14-year high, and BUY top quality, undervalued foreign assets at their record lows.

Do you have a Plan B?

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/24/17 05:00 AM

My comment : There was another good article that I haven't posted, that showed the last 2 months of hi-dumping of US Treasury bonds by foreign countries. China is no longer the one that holds the most US treasuries anymore -- Japan was. Japan did dump quite a bit in the past 2 months, and it looks from this article, that they reacted even further with this announcement below.

Looks like we are pretty close to see some major economic changes.

USD Dumps After Treasury Sec Nominee Mnuchin Warns Of "Excessively Strong" Dollar
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-23...y-strong-dollar
Jan 23, 2017
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In Treasury Secretary nominee Steven Mnuchin's written responses to Senate questions, he made it clear that the "strong dollar" policy may not always be his priority as he noted "an excessively strong dollar may be negative in the short-term."

“The strength of the dollar has historically been tied to the strength of the U.S. economy and the faith that investors have in doing business in America,” Mnuchin said in written responses to questions from U.S. senators obtained by Bloomberg News.

“From time to time, an excessively strong dollar may have negative short-term implications on the economy.”
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*MNUCHIN REPLIES TO SENATE IN DOCUMENT OBTAINED BY BLOOMBERG
*MNUCHIN: TREASURY HAS RANGE OF TOOLS TO ADDRESS UNFAIR TRADE
*MNUCHIN: WILL ENSURE WEALTHY TAXPAYERS CAN'T GAME TAX SYSTEM
*MNUCHIN: WILL ADDRESS ISSUE OF CURRENCY MANIPULATION
*MNUCHIN: `EXCESSIVELY STRONG' USD MAY BE NEGATIVE IN SHORT TERM
*MNUCHIN: U.S. IMF FUNDS MUST BE USED IN LINE WITH POLICY GOALS
*MNUCHIN: WOULD ENFORCE EXISTING SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN, RUSSIA
*MNUCHIN: WOULD CONSIDER ALL OPTIONS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING

The reaction is clear in USDJPY...

The Dollar Index has dropped below 100 for the first time The ECB's December meeting...
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/24/17 10:53 AM

My comment : Now that the old establishment is no longer in power to support ISIS militants and the Wars in the Middle East, the rebels are looking to negotiate a "true" cease fire.

"Now, the United States has different representation and the opposition realizes that they are not going to be getting the backing that they once had from the Obama administration. They also saw what occurred in Aleppo – that was important – perhaps the beginning of the end for the jihadi, Salafist elements there,” he said.

One of the main differences from the previous intra-Syrian talks is that actual military commanders, and not only political representatives, were present at the round table.


‘New level’ Syrian govt & opposition talks in Astana tense but promising – Russian envoy
https://www.rt.com/news/374843-astana-syria-talks-russia-envoy/

23 Jan 2017

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The Syrian government and rebels have taken a new “sensible” path in negotiations, said Russia’s representative in the Kazakh capital, Astana. He predicted a “good outcome” for the two-day peace conference, while admitting that direct talks remain unlikely.
“The first day of the talks was relatively fruitful,” the Russian president’s special envoy to Syria, Aleksandr Lavrentiev, told journalists on Monday evening. “It is notable the opening happened not only in the presence of the three country guarantors of the December 29 ceasefire [Russia, Turkey and Iran] but also in the presence of the representative of the UN Secretary-General Staffan de Mistura and the US Ambassador to Kazakhstan, as well as in the presence of the delegations of Syrian government and Syrian armed opposition.”

“I think that it is an important and symbolic step which gives hope for a new [qualitative] level in the negotiation process,” Lavrentiev added.

Despite anonymous hints of such a possibility to the media from delegations, Lavrentiev admitted that direct talks between the sides remained off the table, but praised the sides, who had engaged in a war of words before talks started, for stepping back from the brink.

“Although tensions were running high initially, the two sides chose a sensible path, and attempted to avoid taking decisions that could sabotage this highly-important event,” said the Russian diplomat in reference to the conference, which has been jointly mediated by Moscow, Ankara and Tehran.

While Lavrentiev said that the Russian side had reached “complete understanding” with the government delegation, and also held a “very productive” session with de Mistura, he also noted progress in the attitude of those opposition representatives who agreed to come to Kazakhstan.

“The level of distrust that we have observed has gone down considerably, and as they have finally understood that they are dealing with a reliable partner in… the Russian Federation,” said Lavrentiev.

Lavrentiev pointed that even through mediators, the two sides had not completed the discussions on “such relevant topics as the ceasefire regime, the distinction of opposition forces from Daesh and Al-Nusra Front, and the joint fight against terrorism."

Al-Nusra and Islamic State have not been invited to the conference, while the Kurdish YPG militia said on Monday that it was “not bound” by any decisions taken in Astana.

Lavrentiev said that the talks – not only between the two direct combatants in the conflict that has raged in 2011, but the other involved parties – would continue from 10m local time on Tuesday, saying he was hopeful of a “good outcome,” with a meaningful final statement due to be released on the same evening.

Michael Maloof, former senior security policy analyst to the US Secretary of Defense, called the fact that the negotiations took place a “major breakthrough that we would not have seen six months ago.”

“It’s monumental. First of all, you have the opposition sitting right across the table from the Syrian government. A few months ago, this was not going to happen,” Maloof said, adding that credit for making the negotiations possible can in large part be given to Russia.

“I think that part of it has to do with the leadership of Moscow and getting both Iranians and the Turks – and the Turks make a major contribution here – together, and even inviting the US to sit in, whereas that was not happening earlier,” the former Pentagon official said, calling the Astana meeting “an extension of Geneva talks.”

Among the most significant factors that drove the opposition to take part in the talks was the change of leadership in Washington as well as Aleppo’s liberation, Maloof argued.

“Now, the United States has different representation and the opposition realizes that they are not going to be getting the backing that they once had from the Obama administration. They also saw what occurred in Aleppo – that was important – perhaps the beginning of the end for the jihadi, Salafist elements there,” he said.

One of the main differences from the previous intra-Syrian talks is that actual military commanders, and not only political representatives, were present at the round table.

“I think that that’s important, because they have control over the areas and the fighters over which they control in those areas,” Maloof said.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/24/17 09:22 PM

My comment : If Trump plans is in-line with the Lord [or perhaps the Lord put His desires in Trump's heart???] --- wouldn't we see the Lord blessings on what he touches? Like giving him victory rather quickly?

That's what I see here. If Trump's administration really captured Isis leader [as this has not been made official yet from the White House] on day ONE of his office....then what are the chances for that to happen on his first day?

Apparently, this leader is injured according to the UK news. So there seem to be some truth to this story, as I've seen another article from RT saying "Russian military says it carried out joint strikes with US-led coalition in Syria, US denies it (RT News on Jan 23rd).

Thus...this guy might tell them who hired him. Looks like the ISIS days are numbered.

Trump Captures ISIS Leader On Day One Of Airstrikes
http://yournewswire.com/trump-captures-isis-leader/

Jan 23, 2014

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The United States has wounded and captured ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi after one day of punishing airstrikes, according to reports from Iraq.

President Trump convened his top generals on his first day in office and ordered them to provide a plan to eradicate ISIS within 30 days – a key election promise – and according to sources in the region the new tactics have drawn immediate success.

Secretary of Defense James Mattis spent his first full day at the Pentagon by overseeing 31 strikes against the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. A variety of fighters, bombers and remotely piloted aircraft engaged in the bombing run, which saw 25 strikes in Syria and six in Iraq.

In Syria, two strikes destroyed ISIL units and artillery near the town of Bab. Daesh forces in Raqqa, the terrorist group’s stronghold, took a heavy beating, as 22 strikes destroyed 12 tactical units, nine fighting positions, two underground improvised explosive bomb factories and an ISIS headquarters. The final strike targeted two IS oil wells in Deir ez Zour.

The account was backed up by the Iraq Oil Report, a respected source that gathers daily updates on security developments inside Mosul and surrounding ISIS-held areas from a network of local reporters, residents and fighters.

“Increased coalition air activity spotted around Ba’aj fuels rumors of IS “Caliph” being surrounded“.


As the dust settles on the fiercest bombardment ISIS have ever received, the word on the street in Iraq is that the new US administration have done what Obama could not, or would not, do – take out ISIS mastermind Al-Baghdadi.

A cornerstone of President Trump’s campaign was the promise that he would destroy ISIS as quickly as possible. He convened his top generals on his first day in office and ordered them to provide a plan to eradicate ISIS once and for all within 30 days.

As the new head of the Pentagon, Mattis would be expected to act on Trump’s plans and make them happen. The former Marine general, who once referred to Obama’s ISIS policy as full of “half measures” seems to have the plan on track.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/24/17 09:54 PM

My comment : WOW -- Possibly the CDC was raided by the FBI. Again, this is not confirmed by Trump's administration. I haven't seen any source confirming this. However, it's quite probable. That would be wonderful.

FBI RAID ON CDC HQ ATLANTA - CONFIRMED
http://drwilliammount.blogspot.ca/2017/01/fbi-raids-cdc-hq-in-artlanta.html?m=1

Jan 23rd 2017

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This morning President Trump ordered the CDC Headquarters in Atlanta to be raided at 3:00 Am Their Time.

Although Unconfirmed the CDC did tell me on the phone a few minutes ago: "We Are Not Allowed To Comment On That.Please Email me and we will give you a statement about it. "

I also had 36 Posts on my video 10 minutes before it was posted...

Long before the Employees began showing up to work the FBI was busting down doors and seizing computers.

Accompanying these FBI Agents was Dr William Thompson - who is a CDC Whistle Blower.

The raid was ordered by the President and was led by Sally Yates - Acting Attorney General and part of the King and Spalding Law Group, which was also working with President Trump’s huge law firm: “Jones Day.”

All of the records for the Vaccines - what is in them, what they have done to people across the globe - it is all being seized as you read this.

As soon as President Obama took office he granted both the CDC and Monsanto protection in their massive use of GMO Foods and Vaccines to kill people world wide. That protection is now gone. The employees involved in murder and disabling people world wide have two choices:

Become a whistle blower or face 20 years to life in prison.


Check this really good short (9:30 min) of CDC history and brief evil works especially with deliberatly knowing(being behind it) the cause of Autism. Judge for yourself if such an action by the Trump administration would be a good call.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/25/17 05:07 PM

My comment : Two other Trump administration moves worth mentioning. The first is banning government employees to post things on Social media and EPA to issue new contracts until a proper investigation is done in each Governmental department. Within the government, there's many bad apples still holding office and plotting to overthrow Trump. I think this is very smart.

Trump Orders Media Blackout At Government Agencies: Bans Use Of Social Media, Bars New EPA Contracts
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-24...s-new-contracts

Jan 24 2017

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It wasn't just the EPA.

Earlier today, we reported that the Trump administration instituted a media blackout at the Environmental Protection Agency and barred staff from awarding any new contracts or grants.

Emails sent to EPA staff since President Donald Trump's inauguration on Friday and reviewed by The Associated Press, detailed the specific prohibitions banning press releases, blog updates or posts to the agency's social media accounts. On Monday, the Huffington Post reported that EPA grants had been frozen, with agency employees barred from speaking of the matter. The memo ordering the social media blackout is shown below.

Cited by The Hill, Myron Ebell, who leads the Trump EPA transition, confirmed the freeze to ProPublica. “They’re trying to freeze things to make sure nothing happens they don’t want to have happen, so any regulations going forward, contracts, grants, hires, they want to make sure to look at them first,” Ebell told ProPublica. Trump's pick for EPA director, Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt, has frequently challenged agency policy in court.

The Trump administration reportedly told the Department of the Interior to stop tweeting from its accounts over the weekend after the National Park Service's Twitter account retweeted a post about the crowd sizes at Trump's inauguration Friday. The agency brought back its accounts on Saturday.

Asked if the EPA had been gagged, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said on Tuesday: "I don't know ... we're looking into it ... I don't think it's a surprise we're going to review the policies but I don't have any info at this time."

According to Reuters sources, the move "reinforced concerns that Trump, a climate change doubter, could seek to sideline scientific research showing that carbon dioxide emissions from burning fossil fuels contributes to global warming, as well as the career staffers at the agencies that conduct much of this research."

The agency also was asked by the White House on Monday to temporarily halt all contracts, grants and interagency agreements pending a review, according to multiple sources. The EPA awards billions of dollars worth of grants and contracts every year to support programs around environmental testing, cleanups and research. According to Reuters,
the White House sent a letter to the EPA's Office of Administration and Resources Management ordering the freeze on Monday. "Basically no money moving anywhere until they can take a look," the staffer said, asking not to be named.

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Now, as Reuters adds, other agencies were also impacted, and the Trump's administration has put staff at a slew of government agencies on notice - "be careful what you say."

In addition to the EPA, the Interior Department and the U.S. Department of Agriculture also has seen efforts to curb communication. On Monday, staff at the department's Agricultural Research Service (ARS) were asked in an email to suspend the release of "any public-facing documents."

"This includes, but is not limited to, news releases, photos, fact sheets, news feeds, and social media content," the email said.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture disavowed the email on Tuesday, saying in a statement that it was released without "departmental direction and prior to departmental guidance being issued."

"ARS will be providing updated direction to its staff," according to the statement.

The ARS focuses on scientific research into the main issues facing agriculture, including long-term climate change.

Last week, staff at the Interior Department were told to stop posting on Twitter after an employee retweeted posts about the relatively low attendance at Trump's inauguration, and about how the issues of climate change and civil rights had disappeared from the White House website.

The department has since resumed tweeting.


Trump To Launch "Major Investigation Into Voter Fraud"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-25/trump-launch-major-investigation-voter-fraud

Jan 25, 2017
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Having stunned the media with his Monday night announcement before members of Congress during a private reception that Trump only lost the popular vote due to vote fraud, the president refused to back down the next day, when on Tuesday the White House said Trump stands by his belief that millions of people voted illegally in the U.S. election.

"The president does believe that," White House spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters. The press secretary said the president had said "3 to 5 million people could have voted illegally, based on the studies that he's seen" although he did not quote the studies.

Fast forward to Wednesday morning when anyone who wondered if Trump would let go of this particularly sensitive issues which attacks the legitimacy of his presidency, got their answer with a series of two tweets by the President, who shortly after 7am said that he will request a probe into US voter fraud to resolve the ongoing back and forth once and for all:

"I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and even, those registered to vote who are dead (and many for a long time). Depending on results, we will strengthen up voting procedures!"

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Trump's proposed investigation will likely be undertaken by the Department of Justice, whose new head, Jeff Sessions, has yet to be confirmed.

As noted above, this "thread" started on Monday night when Trump said he lost the popular vote because of rampant voter fraud by "illegals." "He said 3 to 5 million 'illegals' voted so that's why he lost popular vote," a Democratic aide said. The president made similar claims in tweets he posted after his victory.

"In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally," he tweeted after Election Day.

Several lawmakers and reporters have since disputed the president's claims about rampant voter fraud, saying there is no evidence to back up his allegations, which explains Trump's insistence to get to the bottom of this.

Since the topic of voter fraud was widely cast by the mainstream press as falling under the "fake news" umbrella during the presidential campaign, Trump has just waved red, dripping meat before the US media which will dutifully focus on this one statement, while putting all the other things to come out from the Trump administration on its third working day, on the back burner especially since on December 1, the Trump legal team, commenting on the Stein recount, said "all available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud/mistake" .
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/25/17 11:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : WOW -- Possibly the CDC was raided by the FBI. Again, this is not confirmed by Trump's administration. I haven't seen any source confirming this. However, it's quite probable. That would be wonderful.

FBI RAID ON CDC HQ ATLANTA - CONFIRMED

Why do you run after conspiracy theorists who sit in front of their computer imagining all kinds of secret machinations? Here you post a link saying "CONFIRMED" yet your own words are "I haven't seen any source confirming this ..."

Have you ever heard the story of Chicken Little? Here, you can buy the movie and be enlightened.

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Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/27/17 06:26 PM

While some people may get their news from FOX, others get their news from theonion and whatdoesitmean.

Lots of great headlines:

Abandoned Texas Wal-Mart To Reopen As Shelter For Illegal Immigrants With Tax-Dollar Funding

Pope Orders Knights Of Malta Destroyed For Loyalty To Trump After CIA Spies Arrested In Russia

Trump Claims Waterboarding Doesn’t Come Close To The Excruciating Torment He Experiences At Every Moment
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/27/17 07:57 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
While some people may get their news from FOX, others get their news from theonion and whatdoesitmean.

Lots of great headlines:

Abandoned Texas Wal-Mart To Reopen As Shelter For Illegal Immigrants With Tax-Dollar Funding

Pope Orders Knights Of Malta Destroyed For Loyalty To Trump After CIA Spies Arrested In Russia

Trump Claims Waterboarding Doesn’t Come Close To The Excruciating Torment He Experiences At Every Moment ROFL

The last one sounds like an Onion's.

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/27/17 09:14 PM

My comment : Europe is already in a protest mode against the establishment where many countries wants to leave the EU .... I think this is really not a good "proposal" for the Elites to do now. Check out how ridiculous the reasons they are using to pass this in Europe.

Europe Proposes "Restrictions On Payments In Cash"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-27/europe-proposes-restrictions-payments-cash
Jan 27, 2017

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Having discontinued its production of EUR500 banknotes, it appears Europe is charging towards the utopian dream of a cashless society. Just days after Davos' elites discussed why the world needs to "get rid of currency," the European Commission has introduced a proposal enforcing "restrictions on payments in cash."

With Rogoff, Stiglitz, Summers et al. all calling for the end of cash - because only terrorists and drug-dealers need cash (nothing at all to do with totalitarian control over a nation's wealth) - we are not surprised that this proposal from the European Commission (sanctuary of statism) would appear...

The Commission published on 2 February 2016 a Communication to the Council and the Parliament on an Action Plan to further step up the fight against the financing of terrorism (COM (2016) 50). The Action Plan builds on existing EU rules to adapt to new threats and aims at updating EU policies in line with international standards. In the context of the Commission's action to extent the scope of the Regulation on the controls of cash entering or leaving the Community, reference is made to the appropriateness to explore the relevance of potential upper limits to cash payments.
The Action Plan states that "Payments in cash are widely used in the financing of terrorist activities… In this context, the relevance of potential upper limits to cash payments could also be explored. Several Member States have in place prohibitions for cash payments above a specific threshold."

Cash has the important feature of offering anonymity to transactions. Such anonymity may be desired for legitimate reason (e.g. protection of privacy). But, such anonymity can also be misused for money laundering and terrorist financing purposes. The possibility to conduct large cash payments facilitates money laundering and terrorist financing activities because of the difficulty to control cash payment transactions.

...

Potential restrictions to cash payments would be a mean to fight criminal activities entailing large payment transactions in cash by organised criminal networks. Restricting large payments in cash, in addition to cash declarations and other AML obligations, would hamper the operation of terrorist networks, and other criminal activities, i.e. have a preventive effect. It would also facilitate further investigations to track financial transactions in the course of terrorist activities. Effective investigations are hindered as cash payments transactions are anonymous. Thus restrictions on cash payments would facilitate investigations. However, as cash transactions are moved to the financial system, it is essential that financial institutions have adequate controls and procedures in place that enable them to know the person with whom they are dealing. Adequate due diligence on new and existing customers is a key part of these controls in, line with the AMLD.

Terrorists use cash to sustain their illegal activities, not only for illegal transactions (e.g. the acquisition of explosives) but also for payments which are in appearance legal (e.g. transactions for accommodation or transport). While a restriction on payments in cash would certainly be ignored for transactions that are in any case already illegal, the restriction could create a significant hindrance to the conduct of transactions that are ancillary to terrorist activities.

...

Organised crime and terrorism financing rely on cash for payments for carrying out their illegal activities and benefitting from them. By restricting the possibilities to use cash, the proposal would contribute to disrupt the financing of terrorism, as the need to use non anonymous means of payment would either deter the activity or contribute to its easier detection and investigation. Any such proposal would also aim at harmonising restrictions across the Union, thus creating a level playing field for businesses and removing distortions of competition in the internal market. It would additionally foster the fight against money laundering, tax fraud and organised crime.
And then right at the end, they mention "fundamental rights"...

While being allowed to pay in cash does not constitute a fundamental right, the objective of the initiative, which is to prevent the anonymity that cash payments allow, might be viewed as an infringement of the right to privacy enshrined in Article 7 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights. However, as complemented by article 52 of the Charter, limitations may be made subject to the principle of proportionality if they are necessary and genuinely meet objectives of general interest recognised by the Union or the need to protect the rights and freedoms of others. The objectives of potential restrictions to cash payments could fit such description. It should also be observed that national restrictions to cash payments were never successfully challenged based on an infringement to fundamental rights.
Full Proposal below...



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Below are some recent thoughts on the matter from SovereignMan's Simon Black, who detailed previously that the war on cash is happening faster than we could have ever imagined, and predictably, is based on lies.

Every time we turn around, it seems, there’s another major assault in the War on Cash. India is the most notable recent example– the embarrassing debacle a few weeks ago in which the government, overnight, “demonetized” its two largest denominations of cash, leaving an entire nation in chaos. But there have been so many smaller examples.

In the US city of New Orleans, the local government decided earlier this month to stop accepting cash payments from drivers at the Office of Motor Vehicles. As I wrote to you recently, several branches of Citibank in Australia have stopped dealing in cash altogether. And former US Treasury Secretary Larry Summers published an article last week stating that “nothing in the Indian experience gives us pause in recommending that no more large notes be created in the United States, Europe, and around the world.” In other words, despite the India chaos, Summers thinks we should still curtail the $100 bill.

The conclave of the high priests of monetary policy almost invariably sings the same chorus: only criminals and terrorists use high denominations of cash. Ken Rogoff, Harvard professor and former official at the International Monetary Fund and Federal Reserve, recently published a book blatantly entitled The Curse of Cash. Ben Bernanke’s called it a “fascinating and important book”.

And, shockingly, a number of reviews on Amazon.com praise “brilliant” Rogoff’s “visionary concepts” in his “excellent book”. Rogoff, like most of his colleagues, contends that large bills like the $100 or 500 euro note are only used in “drug trade, extortion, bribes, human trafficking. . .” In fact they jokingly refer to the 500-euro note as the “Bin Laden” since it’s apparently only used by terrorists.

Give me a break. My team and I did some of research on this and found some rather interesting data.It turns out that countries with higher denominations of cash actually have much lower crime rates, including rates of organized crime.

The research was simple; we looked at the World Economic Forum’s competitive rankings that assesses countries’ levels of organized crime, as well as the direct business costs of dealing with crime and violence.

Switzerland, with its 1,000 Swiss franc note (roughly $1,000 USD) has among the lowest levels of organized crime in the world according to the WEF. Ditto for Singapore, which has a 1,000 Singapore dollar note (about $700 USD). Japan’s highest denomination of currency is 10,000 yen, worth $88 today. Yet Japan also has extremely low crime rates. Same for the United Arab Emirates, whose highest denomination is the 1,000 dirham ($272).

If you examine countries with very low denominations of cash, the opposite holds true: crime rates, and in particular organized crime rates, are extremely high. Consider Venezuela, Nigeria, Brazil, South Africa, etc. Organized crime is prevalent. Yet each of these has a currency whose maximum denomination is less than $30.

The same trend holds true when looking at corruption and tax evasion.

Yesterday we wrote to you about Georgia, a small country on the Black Sea whose flat tax prompted tax compliance (and tax revenue) to soar. It’s considered one of the most efficient places to do business with very low levels of corruption. And yet the highest denomination note in Georgia is the 500 lari bill, worth about $200. That’s a lot of money in a country where the average wage is a few hundred dollars per month. Compare that to Malaysia or Uzbekistan, two countries where corruption abounds. Malaysia’s top cash note is 50 ringgit, worth about $11. And Uzbekistan’s 5,000 som is worth a paltry $1.57.

Bottom line, the political and financial establishments want you to willingly get on board with the idea of abolishing, or at least reducing, cash.

And they’re pumping out all sorts of propaganda to do it, trying to get people to equate crime and corruption with high denominations of cash.
Simply put, the data doesn’t support their assertion. It’s just another hoax that will give them more power at the expense of your privacy and freedom.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/27/17 09:25 PM

My comment : The dow reached 20K the other day. I didn't really understand why people were watching for this indication and were happy when it came. This article helped me understand what this means.

Is It Just A Coincidence That The Dow Has Hit 20,000 At The Same Time The National Debt Is Reaching $20 Trillion?
By Michael Snyder, on January 25th, 2017
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archi...ing-20-trillion

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The Dow Jones Industrial Average provides us with some pretty strong evidence that our “stock market boom” has been fueled by debt. On Wednesday, the Dow crossed the 20,000 mark for the first time ever, and this comes at a time when the U.S. national debt is right on the verge of hitting 20 trillion dollars. Is this just a coincidence? As you will see, there has been a very close correlation between the national debt and the Dow Jones Industrial Average for a very long time.

For example, when Ronald Reagan took office in 1991, the U.S. national debt had just hit 994 billion dollars and the Dow was sitting at 951. And as you can see from this chart by Matterhorn.gold via David Stockman, roughly that same ratio has held true throughout subsequent presidential administrations…

Dow Fueled By Debt

During the Clinton years the Dow raced out ahead of the national debt, but an “adjustment” during the Bush years brought things back into line.

The cold hard truth is that we have been living way above our means for decades. Our “prosperity” has been fueled by the greatest debt binge in the history of the world, and we are greatly fooling ourselves if we think otherwise.

We would never have gotten to 20,000 on the Dow if Barack Obama and Congress had not gotten us into an extra 9.3 trillion dollars of debt over the past eight years.

Unfortunately, most people do not understand this, and the mainstream media is treating “Dow 20,000&#8243; as if it is some sort of great historical achievement…

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The average began tracking the most powerful corporate stocks in 1896, and has served as a broad measure of the market’s health through 22 presidents, 22 recessions, a Great Depression, at least two crashes and innumerable rallies, corrections, bull and bear markets. The blue chip reading finally cracked the 20,000 benchmark for the first time early Wednesday.

During the current bull market, the second longest in history, the Dow has more than tripled since March 2009.

Since Donald Trump’s surprise election victory, the Dow has now climbed by approximately 2150 points.

And it took just 64 calendar days for the Dow to go from 19,000 to 20,000. That is an astounding pace, and financial markets around the rest of the planet are doing very well right now too. In fact, global stocks rose to a 19 month high on Wednesday.

So where do we go from here?

Well, if Donald Trump wants to see Dow 30,000 during his presidency, then history tells us that he needs to take us to 30 trillion dollars in debt.

Of course that would be absolute insanity even if it was somehow possible. Each additional dollar of debt destroys the future of our country just a little bit more, and at some point this colossal bubble is going to burst.

But you can’t tell most of the “financial experts” these things. Most of them simply believe that the “market always goes higher over time”…

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The “market always goes higher over time,” Todd Morgan, chairman of Bel Air Investment Advisors. “The lesson here is that through wars, recessions, elections, impeachments, financial crises, and on and on, investing for the long term in high-quality stocks is the key to building wealth. … We are telling our clients that you can’t time the market. Think long term. Stay the course. We expect the market to see Dow 30,000 in my lifetime, and for my grandchildren to see Dow 50,000 in their lifetime.”

My hope is that the market will continue to go up. But nobody can deny that valuations are already at absurdly high levels, and the only way that this party can keep going is to continue to fuel it with more and more debt.

But for the moment, there is a tremendous amount of optimism out there, and most experts expect the Dow to continue to set new highs. In fact, CNBC says that whenever the Dow crosses a new threshold like this it usually means good things for investors…

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CNBC looked at market data from the past 30 years and zeroed in on the times when the Dow has crossed levels like 2,000, 3,000, 4,000 … all the way up to the 19,000 level it hit in November. At those times, investors can typically expect traders to push it up even higher, according to data from Kensho. Not only does the Dow go up, but it outperforms the S&P 500 index along the way.

But as USA Today has explained, not all Americans are benefiting from this stock market rally…

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The breakthrough came just four trading days into Trump’s presidency, a whirlwind in which the billionaire has reaffirmed his commitment to strengthen the U.S. economy and create more jobs and higher wages for workers. Still, nearly half of Americans have not benefited from the so-called “Trump Rally,” which has generated more than $2.2 trillion in paper gains for the Wilshire 5000 Total Stock Index since Election Day. The reason: only 52% of Americans polled by Gallup last April said they “have money invested in stocks” — the lowest stock ownership rate in the 19 years Gallup has tracked the data and down sharply from 65% in 2007 before the financial crisis.

Hopefully the good times will continue to roll for as long as possible.

But there is no possible way that they can keep going indefinitely.

For decades, our debt has been growing much faster than our GDP has. By definition, this is an unsustainable situation. At some point we will have accumulated so much debt that our financial system will no longer be able to hold up under the strain.

Many were convinced that we would reach that point before the U.S. national debt hit 20 trillion dollars, and yet here we are.

So how much higher can we go before the bubble bursts?

That is a very good question, and I don’t know if anyone has the right answer.

But for President Trump, this is going to present him with quite a dilemma.

Either he can keep the debt party going for as long as possible, or he can try to get us to take some tough financial medicine right now.

If an attempt is made to deal with our debt problems now, we will experience severe economic pain almost immediately.

But if the can keeps being kicked down the road, our long-term prognosis is just going to keep getting worse and worse.

And if we try to delay the inevitable indefinitely, at some point the laws of economics are going to make our hard choices for us.

So let us celebrate “Dow 20,000&#8243;, but let us also understand that it is far more likely that we will see “Dow 10,000&#8243; again before we ever see “Dow 30,000&#8243;.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/30/17 10:48 PM

My comment : oh ooooooh! It would be an excellent policy to adopt in any country; however the implication of implementing such policy might get a lot of CEO Tech firms and HB-1 visa holders not happy. Get ready to hear a lot of complaints.

"That may be, but the biggest reason for the anger by tech CEOs at the Trump administration is a simple, and a more selfish one. The reason for the simmering cold war between tech CEOs and Trump can be summarized in just three letters: H1-B.

"Bloomberg reports that the Trump administration has drafted an executive order aimed at overhauling the work-visa programs technology companies depend on to hire tens of thousands of employees each year. If implemented, the reforms could force wholesale changes at India companies such as Infosys Ltd. and Wipro Ltd., and shift the way American companies like Microsoft Corp., Amazon.com Inc. and Apple Inc. recruit talent. Companies would have to try to hire American first and if they recruit foreign workers, priority would be given to the most highly paid.

"“If firms are using the program for cheap labor, I think it will affect them and they will have to pay workers more,” said Ron Hira, an associate professor at Howard University. “If tech firms are using the program for specialized labor, they may find there are more visas available.”


Why The Cold War Between Tech CEOs and Trump Is About To Go Nuclear

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-30/why-cold-war-between-tech-ceos-and-trump-about-go-nuclear

Jan 30, 2017

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Over the weekend, openly defiant CEOs, particularly among the tech sector, expressed their displeasure with Trump's Friday executive order temporarily banning refugees and limiting travel from seven Muslim countries, with both words and deeds, among which the following (summary courtesy of Axios):

VCs funding the ACLU: Several venture capitalists, as well as a few entrepreneurs, took turns soliciting donations to the American Civil Liberties Union through social media and personally matching those donations.

Airbnb volunteers to help provide housing for impacted immigrants: The home-sharing company said that it will work with travelers and organizations to provide housing for those impacted by the executive order, whether through volunteer hosts or by funding housing.
Lyft and Uber commit millions of dollars to legal aid: On Sunday, Lyft said it will donate $1 million to the ACLU over the next four years. Later in the day, Uber said it will create a $3 million legal defense fund for impacted drivers, as well as provide legal assistance and compensate their lost wages.

Google is setting up a $2 million crisis fund: The search giant has set up a fund that will donate to the American Civil Liberties Union, Immigrant Legal Resource Center, International Rescue Committee, and UNHCR.

On Monday morning, former US Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, speaking in an interview with Bloomberg Television, said that he is “gratified” by what he heard from the tech community. “As global businesses, they have a huge stake in the United States being a nation of the Statue of Liberty rather than being a nation of refugee camps.” He added that “they have a huge stake in the United States supporting an open and tolerant global system, they have that stake for their employees, their customers, they have it for the reputation of the United States and they have spoken out.”



Donald Trump sitting down with tech CEOs during less turbulent times.

That may be, but the biggest reason for the anger by tech CEOs at the Trump administration is a simple, and a more selfish one. The reason for the simmering cold war between tech CEOs and Trump can be summarized in just three letters: H1-B. The bottom line is that tech CEOs fear Trump will single them out for outsourcing jobs or shut down the so-called H-1B visa program they use to hire high-skilled foreign employees for crucial engineering and technical jobs.

And, as Axios adds, White House officials say they are right to be nervous, especially about changes to the visa program. Chief strategist Steve Bannon and policy chief Stephen Miller are known to be deeply skeptical of the program, and will have a strong, vocal ally when Jeff Sessions gets confirmed as Attorney General. Some further observations:

-Trump's mixed messages: On the campaign trail, he promised to "end forever the use of H-1B as a cheap labor program." He later signaled in a meeting with tech leaders that he's most concerned about companies misusing the visas to displace lower-wage American workers.

-How it works: Visas are capped at 65,000 a year, with 20,000 additional visas for foreign workers with master's degrees. The demand for the visas is so high that the cap is usually exceeded within a few days of the application window opening. The visas are distributed to companies through a lottery system.

Tech companies such as Microsoft, Google, IBM, Cisco, Apple, Intel and Facebook say the visas are crucial for specialized jobs they can't fill domestically because of a shortage of American graduates with the right technical skills. When CEOs spoke out over the weekend about the ban, they pointed out the importance of allowing the "best and brightest" to work in the U.S.

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Which is why if a news report about Trump's next imminent executive order is accurate, the simmering cold war between the tech CEOs and Trump is about to nuclear.

Bloomberg reports that the Trump administration has drafted an executive order aimed at overhauling the work-visa programs technology companies depend on to hire tens of thousands of employees each year. If implemented, the reforms could force wholesale changes at India companies such as Infosys Ltd. and Wipro Ltd., and shift the way American companies like Microsoft Corp., Amazon.com Inc. and Apple Inc. recruit talent. Companies would have to try to hire American first and if they recruit foreign workers, priority would be given to the most highly paid.

The draft of Trump’s executive order covers an alphabet soup of visa programs, including H-1B, L-1, E-2 and B1. The first is a popular program with technology companies and is aimed at allowing them to bring in high-skill workers when they can’t find local hires with the appropriate skills. The legislation caps the number of people who can enter the U.S. annually at 85,000, including those with undergrad and master’s degrees.

The average salary of an H-1B worker at Apple is reportedly more than $100k.

“Our country’s immigration policies should be designed and implemented to serve, first and foremost, the U.S. national interest,” the draft proposal reads, according to a copy reviewed by Bloomberg. “Visa programs for foreign workers … should be administered in a manner that protects the civil rights of American workers and current lawful residents, and that prioritizes the protection of American workers -- our forgotten working people -- and the jobs they hold.”

The foreign work visas were originally established to help U.S. companies recruit from abroad when they couldn’t find qualified local workers. But in recent years, there have been allegations the programs have been abused to bring in cheaper workers from overseas to fill jobs that otherwise may go to Americans. The top recipients of the H-1B visas are outsourcers, primarily from India, who run the technology departments of large corporations with largely imported staff.

“If firms are using the program for cheap labor, I think it will affect them and they will have to pay workers more,” said Ron Hira, an associate professor at Howard University. “If tech firms are using the program for specialized labor, they may find there are more visas available.”

The Trump administration did not respond to a request for comment on the draft. The proposal is consistent with the president’s public comments on pushing companies to add more jobs to the U.S., from auto manufacturing to technology.
It’s not clear how much force the executive order would have if it is signed by the president. Congress is also working on visa reforms and the parties will have to cooperate to pass new laws. Zoe Lofgren, a Democratic congresswoman from California, introduced a bill last week to tighten requirements for the H-1B work visa program.

"My legislation refocuses the H-1B program to its original intent – to seek out and find the best and brightest from around the world, and to supplement the U.S. workforce with talented, highly-paid, and highly-skilled workers,” Lofgren said in a statement.

Meanwhile, as Bloomberg adds, India’s technology companies, led by Tata Consultancy Services Ltd, Infosys and Wipro, have argued they are helping corporations become more competitive by handling their technology operations with specialized staff. They also contend the visa programs allow them to keep jobs in the U.S. and that if they have to pay more for staff, they will handle more of the work remotely from less expensive markets like India. Trump, however, see things differently.

“Inspections and investigations in the past have shown no cases of wrongdoing by Indian IT services companies, which have always been fully compliant with the law,” said R Chandrashekhar, president of Nasscom, the trade group for India’s information technology sector. “The industry is open to any kind of checks in the system, but they should not cause any hindrance to the smooth operation of companies.

The proposed Trump order is also aimed at bringing more transparency to the program. It calls for publishing reports with basic statistics on who uses the immigration programs within one month of the end of the government’s fiscal year. The Obama Administration had scaled back the information available on the programs and required Freedom of Information Act requests for some data.

Whatever specific changes are implemented, they are likely to add to the expenses for India’s technology companies. That may accelerate a shift to new kinds of services, such as cloud computing and artificial intelligence, said Raja Lahiri, partner at the Mumbai-based partner at consultancy Grant Thornton India
“The visa challenges are not going to go away easily,” he said. “They will continue to be a challenge for Indian IT companies.”

But while the pain for India will be acute, it will be Silicon Valley that may be most impacted, as suddenly its favorite source of cheap, skilled labor is eliminated. How it will responds remains to be seen.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/31/17 07:23 PM

My comment : Many voices in the Catholic Church (Bishops, politicians, etc) and the author of this article -- brings the same point that Stephen Jones and many others politicians that are non-catholic has brought seeing the wise plot [with in-flux of immigrants] Mystery Babylon to overthrow Christian Nations.

The reason for the in-flux of muslim immigrants in Europe, US, Canada, and other Western countries [that Georges Soros and his other elites buddies has funded] is because they know that in just a few generations the majority of the population of these Christian countries will not be Christian anymore, but muslim and many of them are radical muslims (those are the ones that are a threat)... that they will vote for a government that rule with the sharia law ... and these people with extreme Islamic religion views (different from other muslims who are peaceful) want to be ruled with a Saudi Arabia type of government.

Pope Francis wasn't trying to bring the "One World Religion", but sadly, it appears that he was supporting Mystery Babylon's agenda as the voice of many leaders inside the Catholic Church object to the Pope message. Looks like the Catholic Church is waking up. Good for them!

Islam Strengthening in Europe with the Blessing of the Church
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9835/church-strengthening-islam

by Giulio Meotti
January 29, 2017 at 6:00 am

"Europe will pay dearly for having left its spiritual foundations; this is the last period that will not continue for decades when it may still have a chance to do something about it. Unless the Christians wake up, life may be Islamised and Christianity will not have the strength to imprint its character on the life of people, not to say society. "

"[T]hey are not refugees, this is an invasion, they come here with cries of 'Allahu Akbar', they want to take over.
" — Laszlo Kiss Rigo, head of the Catholic Hungarian southern community.".

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There are now many Catholic commentators who are questioning the Church's blindness about the danger Europe is facing.

"Islam has every chance massively to strengthen its presence in Europe with the blessing of the Church.... the Church is not only leading Europe to an impasse, it is also shooting itself in the foot." — Laurent Dandrieu, cultural editor of the French magazine Valeurs Actuelles.

"It is clear that Muslims have an ultimate goal: conquering the world...Islam, through the sharia, their law...allows violence against the infidels, such as Christians....And what is the most important achievement? Rome." — Cardinal Raymond Burke, interview, Il Giornale.

"[T]hey are not refugees, this is an invasion, they come here with cries of 'Allahu Akbar', they want to take over." — Laszlo Kiss Rigo, head of the Catholic Hungarian southern community.

François Fillon published a book entitled, Vanquishing Islamic Totalitarianism, and he rose in the polls by vowing to control Islam and immigration: "We've got to reduce immigration to its strict minimum," Fillon said. "Our country is not a sum of communities, it is an identity!"

Everyone in Italy and the rest of Europe will "soon be Muslim" because of our "stupidity", warned Monsignor Carlo Liberati, Archbishop Emeritus of Pompei. Liberati claimed that, thanks to the huge number of Muslim migrants alongside the increasing secularism of native Europeans, Islam will soon become the main religion of Europe. "All of this moral and religious decadence favours Islam", Archbishop Liberati explained.

Décadence is also the title of a new book by the French philosopher Michel Onfray, in which he suggests that the Judeo-Christian era may have come to an end. He compares the West and Islam: "We have nihilism, they have fervor; we are exhausted, they have a great health; we have the past for us; they have the future for them".

Archbishop Liberati belongs to a growing branch of Catholic leaders who refuse to see the future belonging to Islam in Europe. They speak in open opposition to Pope Francis, who does not seem too impressed by the collapse of Christianity due to falling birth rates, accompanied by religious apathy and its replacement by Islam.


Monsignor Carlo Liberati, Archbishop Emeritus of Pompei (left) belongs to a growing branch of Catholic leaders who refuse to see the future belonging to Islam in Europe, and who speak in open opposition to Pope Francis (right).
Pope Francis's official vision is personified by Bishop Nunzio Galantino, who was appointed by the Pontiff as the Secretary General of Italy's Bishops. Last December, Galantino gave an interview in which he dismissed any religious motivation behind jihadist attacks and claimed that, instead, "money" is what is behind them.

There are now many Catholic commentators who are questioning the Church's blindness about the danger Europe is facing. One is the cultural editor of the French magazine Valeurs Actuelles, Laurent Dandrieu, who writes:

"Islam has every chance massively to strengthen its presence in Europe with the blessing of the Church. The Church is watching the establishment of millions of Muslims in Europe... and Muslim worship in our continent as an inescapable manifestation of religious freedom. But the civilizational question is simply never asked .... By breaking away from the Europe's indigenous peoples and their legitimate concerns, the Church is not only leading Europe to an impasse, it is also shooting itself in the foot".

Dandrieu lists Pope Francis' gestures and speeches in favor of Islam and migrants:

"On October 1, 2014, the Pope received Eritrean survivors of a shipwreck off Lampedusa; on 8 February 2015, he made a surprise visit to a refugee camp in Ponte Mammolo, northeast of Rome; on April 18, he used the first official visit of the new Italian president, Sergio Mattarella, to demand 'a much larger commitment' for migrants; on 6 September 2015, at the conclusion of the Angelus in St Peter's Square, he called for 'every parish, religious community, monastery and sanctuary in Europe to host a family' of refugees; on March 24, 2016, he chose to celebrate the Holy Thursday in a structure housing 900 refugees, and to wash the feet to twelve asylum seekers; on May 28, he received children whose parents died in a boat that sank, filled with migrants; during the general audience of June 22, Francis went down to the crowd to bring back fifteen refugees".

But as Liberati's case demonstrates, resistance to Pope Francis' vision of Europe is growing inside the Catholic Church.

"It is clear that Muslims have an ultimate goal: conquering the world", Cardinal Raymond Burke said.

"Islam, through the sharia, their law, wants to rule the world and allows violence against the infidels, like Christians. But we find it hard to recognize this reality and to respond by defending the Christian faith (...) I have heard several times an Islamic idea: 'what we failed to do with the weapons in the past we are doing today with the birth rate and immigration'. The population is changing. If this keeps up, in countries such as Italy, the majority will be Muslim (...) Islam realizes itself in the conquest. And what is the most important achievement? Rome".

The first to denounce this dramatic trend was Italy's most important missionary, Father Piero Gheddo, who said that, due to falling fertility and Muslim fervor, "Islam would sooner rather than later conquer the majority in Europe". These concerns do not belong only to the Conservative wing of the Catholic Church.

Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, Archbishop of Vienna and a candidate tipped to be the next Pope, is very close to Pope Francis, and is a centrist. Last September, on the anniversary of the Siege of Vienna, when Turkey's Ottoman troops nearly conquered Europe, Schönborn delivered a dramatic appeal to save Europe's Christian roots. "Many Muslims want and say that 'Europe is finished'", Cardinal Schönborn said, before accusing Europe of "forgetting its Christian identity". He then denounced the possibility of "an Islamic conquest of Europe".

After a Tunisian, who arrived among a flood of migrants into Germany, murdered 12 people at a Christmas market in Berlin, the Catholic archbishop of the German capital, Heiner Koch, another "moderate" Catholic leader appointed by Pope Francis, also sounded a warning: "Perhaps we focused too much on the radiant image of humanity, on the good. Now in the last year, or perhaps also in recent years, we have seen: No, there is also evil".

The head of the Czech Roman Catholic Church, Miloslav Vlk, also warned about the threat of Islamization. "Muslims in Europe have many more children than Christian families; that is why demographers have been trying to come up with a time when Europe will become Muslim", Cardinal Vlk claimed. He also blamed Europe itself for the Islamic takeover:

"Europe will pay dearly for having left its spiritual foundations; this is the last period that will not continue for decades when it may still have a chance to do something about it. Unless the Christians wake up, life may be Islamised and Christianity will not have the strength to imprint its character on the life of people, not to say society".

Cardinal Dominik Duka, Archbishop of Prague and Primate of Bohemia, has also questioned Pope Francis' "welcoming culture".

Among the Eastern Catholic bishops there are many voices raising concerns about Europe's demographic and religious revolution. One belongs to the leader of the Catholics in Lebanon, who paid an extremely high price for the Islamization of their own country, including murder and exile, and now see the danger coming to Europe itself. "I have heard many times from Muslims that their goal is to conquer Europe with two weapons: faith and the birth rate", Cardinal Bechara Rai said.

Another voice belongs to the French-born Bishop Paul Desfarges, who heads the diocese of Constantine in Algeria: "It's no surprise that Islam has taken on such importance", Desfarges said. "It's an issue that concerns Europe". Sydney Cardinal George Pell then urged "a discussion of the consequences of the Islamic presence in the Western world". Pell was echoed by Laszlo Kiss Rigo, the head of the Catholic Hungarian southern community, who said that "they are not refugees, this is an invasion, they come here with cries of 'Allahu Akbar', they want to take over".

On the political level, there is another a tendency, that of strong Catholic leaders who challenge Pope Francis on the Islamic question and immigration. The most important is the French presidential candidate François Fillon, one of the first politicians who "doesn't hide the fact that he's Catholic". Fillon published a book entitled, Vanquishing Islamic Totalitarianism, and he rose in the polls by vowing to control Islam and immigration: "We've got to reduce immigration to its strict minimum," Fillon said. "Our country is not a sum of communities, it is an identity!"

These politicians, bishops and cardinals might convince Pope Francis not to abandon Europe, the cradle of Christianity and Western civilization, to a looming dark fate. Michel Onfray wrote at the end of his book: "Judeo-Christianity ruled for two millennia. An honorable period for a civilization. The boat now sinks: we can only sink with elegance". It is urgent now to prevent that.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 01/31/17 07:32 PM

My comment : Here's a reality check of which country accepts more immigrants versus which country doesn't at all but sends out immigrants.

Did you know that the US had over 46 millions immigrants entering their country "as of 2015". The most in all the world. The second leading country is Germany with 12 billions.

Which Countries Host (And Send) The Most Migrants?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-28/which-countries-host-and-send-most-migrants

by Tyler Durden
Jan 29, 2017

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"As President Trump's executive orders ripple through the spin and propaganda strata of social- and mainstream-media channels, we thought a look at who the biggest 'givers' and 'receivers' of immigrants are in the world...

Infographic: Which countries host and send the most migrants? | Statista
You will find more statistics at Statista

According to United Nations data, there are 243 million international migrants scattered across the world, accounting for 3.4 percent of the global population.

The United States hosts the most of the them as of 2015 - some 46.6 million people. Germany comes second with 12 million while Russia rounds off the top three with 11.6 million. In terms of sending countries, India is in first place with 15.6 million.

Perhaps ironically, The United Kingdom, which is set to adopt stricter immigration controls, is one of the top-10 countries worldwide for sending migrants. In 2015, approximately 4.9 million British citizens lived in other countries."
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/06/17 07:23 AM

I would like to ask a question; Did this Global Economic Restructuring actually take place in 2012?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/08/17 09:41 PM

16 Fake News Stories Reporters Have Run Since Trump Won

thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/

By Daniel Payne
FEBRUARY 6, 2017

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Since at least Donald Trump’s election, our media have been in the grip of an astonishing, self-inflicted crisis. Despite Trump’s constant railing against the American press, there is no greater enemy of the American media than the American media. They did this to themselves.

We are in the midst of an epidemic of fake news. There is no better word to describe it than “epidemic,” insofar as it fits the epidemiological model from the Centers for Disease Control: this phenomenon occurs when “an agent and susceptible hosts are present in adequate numbers, and the agent can be effectively conveyed from a source to the susceptible hosts.”

The “agent” in this case is hysteria over Trump’s presidency, and the “susceptible hosts” are a slipshod, reckless, and breathtakingly gullible media class that spread the hysteria around like—well, like a virus.

It is difficult to adequately sum up the breadth of this epidemic, chiefly because it keeps growing: day after day, even hour after hour, the media continue to broadcast, spread, promulgate, publicize, and promote fake news on an industrial scale. It has become a regular part of our news cycle, not distinct from or extraneous to it but a part of it, embedded within the news apparatus as a spoke is embedded in a bicycle wheel.

Whenever you turn on a news station, visit a news website, or check in on a journalist or media personality on Twitter or Facebook, there is an excellent chance you will be exposed to fake news. It is rapidly becoming an accepted part of the way the American media are run.

How we will get out of this is anyone’s guess. We might not get out of it, not so long as Trump is president of these United States. We may be up for four—maybe eight!—long years of authentic fake news media hysteria. It is worth cataloging at least a small sampling of the hysteria so far. Only when we fully assess the extent of the media’s collapse into ignominious ineptitude can we truly begin to reckon with it.

Since Trump’s election, here’s just a small sampling of fake news that our media and our journalist class have propagated.

Early November: Spike in Transgender Suicide Rates
After Trump’s electoral victory on November 8, rumors began circulating that multiple transgender teenagers had killed themselves in response to the election results. There was no basis to these rumors. Nobody was able to confirm them at the time, and nobody has been able to confirm in the three months since Trump was elected.

Nevertheless, the claim spread far and wide: Guardian writer and editor-at-large of Out Zach Stafford tweeted the rumor, which was retweeted more than 13,000 times before he deleted it. He later posted a tweet explaining why he deleted his original viral tweet; his explanatory tweet was shared a total of seven times. Meanwhile, PinkNews writer Dominic Preston wrote a report on the rumors, which garnered more than 12,000 shares on Facebook.

At Mic, Matthew Rodriguez wrote about the unsubstantiated allegations. His article was shared more than 55,000 times on Facebook. Urban legend debunker website Snopes wrote a report on the rumors and listed them as “unconfirmed” (rather than “false”). Snopes’s sources were two Facebook posts, since deleted, that offered no helpful information regarding the location, identity, or circumstances of any of the suicides. The Snopes report was shared 19,000 times.

At Reason, writer Elizabeth Nolan Brown searched multiple online databases to try to determine the identities or even the existence of the allegedly suicidal youth. She found nothing. As she put it: “[T]eenagers in 2016 don’t just die without anyone who knew them so much as mentioning their death online for days afterward.”

She is right. Just the same, the stories hyping this idea garnered at least nearly 100,000 shares on Facebook alone, contributing to the fear and hysteria surrounding Trump’s win.

November 22: The Tri-State Election Hacking Conspiracy Theory
On November 22, Gabriel Sherman posted a bombshell report at New York Magazine claiming that “a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers” were demanding a recount in three separate states because of “persuasive evidence that [the election] results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked.” The evidence? Apparently, “in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots.”

The story went stratospherically viral. It was shared more than 145,000 times on Facebook alone. Sherman shared it on his Twitter feed several times, and people retweeted his links to the story nearly 9,000 times. Politico’s Eric Geller shared the story on Twitter as well. His tweet was retweeted just under 8,000 times. Dustin Volz from Reuters shared the link; he was retweeted nearly 2,000 times. MSNBC’s Joy Reid shared the story and was retweeted more than 4,000 times. New York Times opinion columnist Paul Krugman also shared the story and was retweeted about 1,600 times.

It wasn’t until the next day, November 23, that someone threw a little water on the fire. At FiveThirtyEight, Nate Silver explained that it was “demographics, not hacking” that explained the curious voting numbers. “Anyone making allegations of a possible massive electoral hack should provide proof,” he wrote, “and we can’t find any.” Additionally, Silver pointed out that the New York Magazine article had misrepresented the argument of one of the computer scientists in question.

At that point, however, the damage had already been done: Sherman, along with his credulous tweeters and retweeters, had done a great deal to delegitimize the election results. Nobody was even listening to Silver, anyway: his post was shared a mere 380 times on Facebook, or about one-quarter of 1 percent as much as Sherman’s. This is how fake news works: the fake story always goes viral, while nobody reads or even hears about the correction.

December 1: The 27-Cent Foreclosure
At Politico on December 1, Lorraine Woellert published a shocking essay claiming that Trump’s pick for secretary of the Treasury, Steve Mnuchin, had overseen a company that “foreclosed on a 90-year-old woman after a 27-cent payment error.” According to Woellert: “After confusion over insurance coverage, a OneWest subsidiary sent [Ossie] Lofton a bill for $423.30. She sent a check for $423. The bank sent another bill, for 30 cents. Lofton, 90, sent a check for three cents. In November 2014, the bank foreclosed.”

The story received widespread coverage, being shared nearly 17,000 times on Facebook. The New York Times’s Steven Rattner shared it on Twitter (1,300 retweets), as did NBC News’s Brad Jaffy (1,200 retweets), the AP’s David Beard (1,900 retweets) and many others.

The problem? The central scandalous claims of Woellert’s article were simply untrue. As the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Ted Frank pointed out, the woman in question was never foreclosed on, and never lost her home. Moreover, “It wasn’t Mnuchin’s bank that brought the suit.”

Politico eventually corrected these serious and glaring errors. But the damage was done: the story had been repeated by numerous media outlets including Huffington Post (shared 25,000 times on Facebook), the New York Post, Vanity Fair, and many others.

January 20: Nancy Sinatra’s Complaints about the Inaugural Ball
On the day of Trump’s inauguration, CNN claimed Nancy Sinatra was “not happy” with the fact that the president and first lady’s inaugural dance would be to the tune of Frank Sinatra’s “My Way.” The problem? Nancy Sinatra had never said any such thing. CNN later updated the article without explaining the mistake they had made.

January 20: The Nonexistent Climate Change Website ‘Purge’
Also on the day of the inauguration, New York Times writer Coral Davenport published an article on the Times’s website whose headline claimed that the Trump administration had “purged” any “climate change references” from the White House website. Within the article, Davenport acknowledged that the “purge” (or what she also called “online deletions”) was “not unexpected” but rather part of a routine turnover of digital authority between administrations.

To call this action a “purge” was thus at the height of intellectual dishonesty: Davenport was styling the whole thing as a kind of digital book-burn rather than a routine part of American government. But of course that was almost surely the point. The inflammatory headline was probably the only thing that most people read of the article, doubtlessly leading many readers (the article was shared nearly 50,000 times on Facebook) to believe something that simply wasn’t true.

January 20: The Great MLK Jr. Bust Controversy
On January 20, Time reporter Zeke Miller wrote that a bust of Martin Luther King Jr. had been removed from the White House. This caused a flurry of controversy on social media until Miller issued a correction. As Time put it, Miller had apparently not even asked anyone in the White House if the bust had been removed. He simply assumed it had been because “he had looked for it and had not seen it.”

January 20: Betsy DeVos, Grizzly Fighter
During her confirmation hearing, education secretary nominee Betsy DeVos was asked whether schools should be able to have guns on their campuses. As NBC News reported, DeVos felt it was “best left to locales and states to decide.” She pointed out that one school in Wyoming had a fence around it to protect the students from wildlife. “I would imagine,” she said, “that there’s probably a gun in the school to protect from potential grizzlies.”

This was an utterly noncontroversial stance to take. DeVos was simply pointing out that different states and localities have different needs, and attempting to mandate a nationwide one-size-fits-all policy for every American school is imprudent.

How did the media run with it? By lying through their teeth. “Betsy DeVos Says Guns Should Be Allowed in Schools. They Might Be Needed to Shoot Grizzlies” (Slate). “Betsy DeVos: Schools May Need Guns to Fight Off Bears” (The Daily Beast). “Citing grizzlies, education nominee says states should determine school gun policies” (CNN). “Betsy DeVos says guns in schools may be necessary to protect students from grizzly bears” (ThinkProgress.) “Betsy DeVos says guns shouldn’t be banned in schools … because grizzly bears” (Vox). “Betsy DeVos tells Senate hearing she supports guns in schools because of grizzly bears” (The Week). “Trump’s Education Pick Cites ‘Potential Grizzlies’ As A Reason To Have Guns In Schools” (BuzzFeed).

The intellectual dishonesty at play here is hard to overstate. DeVos never said or even intimated that every American school or even very many of them might need to shoot bears. She merely used one school as an example of the necessity of federalism and as-local-as-possible control of the education system.

Rather than report accurately on her stance, these media outlets created a fake news event to smear a reasonable woman’s perfectly reasonable opinion.

January 26: The ‘Resignations’ At the State Department
On January 26, the Washington Post’s Josh Rogin published what seemed to be a bombshell report declaring that “the State Department’s entire senior management team just resigned.” This resignation, according to Rogin, was “part of an ongoing mass exodus of senior Foreign Service officers who don’t want to stick around for the Trump era.” These resignations happened “suddenly” and “unexpectedly.” He styled it as a shocking shake-up of administrative protocol in the State Department, a kind of ad-hoc protest of the Trump administration.

The story immediately went sky-high viral. It was shared nearly 60,000 times on Facebook. Rogin himself tweeted the story out and was retweeted a staggering 11,000 times. Washington Post columnist Anne Applebaum had it retweeted nearly 2,000 times; journalists and writers from Wired, The Guardian, the Washington Post, Bloomberg, ABC, Foreign Policy, and other publications tweeted the story out in shock.

There was just one problem: the story was more a load of bunk. As Vox pointed out, the headline of the piece was highly misleading: “the word ‘management’ strongly implied that all of America’s top diplomats were resigning, which was not the case.” (The Post later changed the word “management” to “administrative” without noting the change, although it left the “management” language intact in the article itself).

More importantly, Mark Toner, the acting spokesman for the State Department, put out a press release noting that “As is standard with every transition, the outgoing administration, in coordination with the incoming one, requested all politically appointed officers submit letters of resignation.” According to CNN, the officials were actually asked to leave by the Trump administration rather than stay on for the customary transitional few months. The entire premise of Rogin’s article was essentially nonexistent.

As always, the correction received far less attention than the fake news itself: Vox’s article, for instance, was shared around 9,500 times on Facebook, less than one-sixth the rate of Rogin’s piece. To this day, Rogin’s piece remains uncorrected regarding its faulty presumptions.

January 27: The Photoshopped Hands Affair
On January 27, Observer writer Dana Schwartz tweeted out a screenshot of Trump that, in her eyes, proved President Trump had “photoshopped his hands bigger” for a White House photograph. Her tweet immediately went viral, being shared upwards of 25,000 times. A similar tweet by Disney animator Joaquin Baldwin was shared nearly 9,000 times as well.

The conspiracy theory was eventually debunked, but not before it had been shared thousands upon thousands of times. Meanwhile, Schwartz tweeted that she did “not know for sure whether or not the hands were shopped.” Her correction tweet was shared a grand total of…11 times.

January 29: The Reuters Account Hoax
Following the Quebec City mosque massacre, the Daily Beast published a story that purported to identify the two shooters who had perpetrated the crime. The problem? The story’s source was a Reuters parody account on Twitter. Incredibly, nobody at the Daily Beast thought to check the source to any appreciable degree.

January 31: The White House-SCOTUS Twitter Mistake
Leading up to Trump announcing his first Supreme Court nomination, CNN Senior White House Correspondent Jeff Zeleny announced that the White House was “setting up [the] Supreme Court announcement as a prime-time contest.” He pointed to a pair of recently created “identical Twitter pages” for a theoretical justices Neil Gorsuch and Thomas Hardiman, the two likeliest nominees for the court vacancy.

Zeleny’s sneering tweet—clearly meant to cast the Trump administration in an unflattering, circus-like light—was shared more than 1,100 times on Twitter. About 30 minutes later, however, he tweeted: “The Twitter accounts…were not set up by the White House, I’ve been told.” As always, the admission of mistake was shared far less than the original fake news: Zeleny’s correction was retweeted a paltry 159 times.

January 31: The Big Travel Ban Lie
On January 31, a Fox affiliate station out of Detroit reported that “A local business owner who flew to Iraq to bring his mother back home to the US for medical treatment said she was blocked from returning home under President Trump’s ban on immigration and travel from seven predominately Muslim nations. He said that while she was waiting for approval to fly home, she died from an illness.”

Like most other sensational news incidents, this one took off, big-time: it was shared countless times on Facebook, not just from the original article itself (123,000 shares) but via secondary reporting outlets such as the Huffington Post (nearly 9,000 shares). Credulous reporters and media personalities shared the story on Twitter to the tune of thousands and thousands of retweets, including: Christopher Hooks, Gideon Resnick, Daniel Dale, Sarah Silverman, Blake Hounshell, Brian Beutler, Garance Franke-Ruta, Keith Olbermann (he got 3,600 retweets on that one!), Matthew Yglesias, and Farhad Manjoo.

The story spread so far because it gratified all the biases of the liberal media elite: it proved that Trump’s “Muslim ban” was an evil, racist Hitler-esque mother-killer of an executive order.

There was just one problem: it was a lie. The man had lied about when his mother died. The Fox affiliate hadn’t bothered to do the necessary research to confirm or disprove the man’s account. The news station quietly corrected the story after giving rise to such wild, industrial-scale hysteria.

February 1: POTUS Threatens to Invade Mexico
On February 1, Yahoo News published an Associated Press report about a phone call President Trump shared with Mexican president Enrique Pena Nieto. The report strongly implied that President Trump was considering “send[ing] U.S. troops” to curb Mexico’s “bad hombre” problem, although it acknowledged that the Mexican government disagreed with that interpretation. The White House later re-affirmed that Trump did not have any plan to “invade Mexico.”

Nevertheless, Jon Passantino, the deputy news director of BuzzFeed, shared this story on Twitter with the exclamation “WOW.” He was retweeted 2,700 times. Jon Favreau, a former speechwriter for Barack Obama, also shared the story, declaring: “I’m sorry, did our president just threaten to invade Mexico today??” Favreau was retweeted more than 8,000 times.

Meanwhile, the Yahoo News AP post was shared more than 17,000 times on Facebook; Time’s post of the misleading report was shared more than 66,000 times; ABC News posted the story and it was shared more than 20,000 times. On Twitter, the report—with the false implication that Trump’s comment was serious—was shared by media types such as ThinkProgress’s Judd Legum, the BBC’s Anthony Zurcher, Vox’s Matt Yglesias, Politico’s Shane Goldmacher, comedian Michael Ian Black, and many others.

February 2: Easing the Russian Sanctions
Last week, NBC News national correspondent Peter Alexander tweeted out the following: “BREAKING: US Treasury Dept easing Obama admin sanctions to allow companies to do transactions with Russia’s FSB, successor org to KGB.” His tweet immediately went viral, as it implied that the Trump administration was cozying up to Russia.

A short while later, Alexander posted another tweet: “Source familiar [with] sanctions says it’s a technical fix, planned under Obama, to avoid unintended consequences of cybersanctions.” As of this writing, Alexander’s fake news tweet has approximately 6,500 retweets; his clarifying tweet has fewer than 250.

At CNBC, Jacob Pramuk styled the change this way: “Trump administration modifies sanctions against Russian intelligence service.” The article makes it clear that, per Alexander’s source, “the change was a technical fix that was planned under Obama.” Nonetheless, the impetus was placed on the Trump adminsitration. CBS News wrote the story up in the same way. So did the New York Daily News.

In the end, unable to pin this (rather unremarkable) policy tweak on the Trump administration, the media have mostly moved on. As the Chicago Tribune put it, the whole affair was yet again an example of how “in the hyperactive Age of Trump, something that initially appeared to be a major change in policy turned into a nothing-burger.”

February 2: Renaming Black History Month
At the start of February, which is Black History Month in the United States, Trump proclaimed the month “National African American History Month.” Many outlets tried to spin the story in a bizarre way: TMZ claimed that a “senior administration official” said that Trump believed the term “black” to be outdated. “Every U.S. president since 1976 has designated February as Black History Month,” wrote TMZ. BET wrote the same thing.

The problem? It’s just not true. President Obama, for example, declared February “National African American History Month” as well. TMZ quickly updated their piece to fix their embarrassing error.

February 2: The House of Representatives’ Gun Control Measures
On February 2, the Associated Press touched off a political and media firestorm by tweeting: “BREAKING: House votes to roll back Obama rule on background checks for gun ownership.” The AP was retweeted a staggering 12,000 times.

The headlines that followed were legion: “House votes to rescind Obama gun background check rule” (Kyle Cheney, Politico); “House GOP aims to scrap Obama rule on gun background checks” (CNBC); “House scraps background check regulation” (Yahoo News); “House rolls back Obama gun background check rule” (CNN); “House votes to roll back Obama rule on background checks for gun ownership” (Washington Post).

Some headlines were more specific about the actual House vote but no less misleading; “House votes to end rule that prevents people with mental illness from buying guns” (the Independent); “Congress ends background checks for some gun buyers with mental illness” (the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette); “House Votes to Overturn Obama Rule Restricting Gun Sales to the Severely Mentally Ill” (NPR).

The hysteria was far-reaching and frenetic. As you might have guessed, all of it was baseless. The House was actually voting to repeal a narrowly tailored rule from the Obama era. This rule mandated that the names of certain individuals who receive Social Security Disability Insurance and Supplemental Security Income and who use a representative to help manage these benefits due to a mental impairment be forwarded to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

If that sounds confusing, it essentially means that if someone who receives SSDI or SSI needs a third party to manage these benefits due to some sort of mental handicap, then—under the Obama rule—they may have been barred from purchasing a firearm. (It is thus incredibly misleading to suggest that the rule applied in some specific way to the “severely mentally ill.”)

As National Review’s Charlie Cooke pointed out, the Obama rule was opposed by the American Association of People With Disabilities; the ACLU; the Arc of the United States; the Autistic Self-Advocacy Network; the Consortium of Citizens With Disabilities; the National Coalition of Mental Health Recovery; and many, many other disability advocacy organizations and networks.

The media hysteria surrounding the repeal of this rule—the wildly misleading and deceitful headlines, the confused outrage over a vote that nobody understood—was a public disservice.

As Cooke wrote: “It is a rare day indeed on which the NRA, the GOP, the ACLU, and America’s mental health groups find themselves in agreement on a question of public policy, but when it happens it should at the very least prompt Americans to ask, ‘Why?’ That so many mainstream outlets tried to cheat them of the opportunity does not bode well for the future.”

Maybe It’s Time to Stop Reading Fake News
Surely more incidents have happened since Trump was elected; doubtlessly there are many more to come. To be sure, some of these incidents are larger and more shameful than others, and some are smaller and more mundane.

But all of them, taken as a group, raise a pressing and important question: why is this happening? Why are our media so regularly and so profoundly debasing and beclowning themselves, lying to the public and sullying our national discourse—sometimes on a daily basis? How has it come to this point?

Perhaps the answer is: “We’ve let it.” The media will not stop behaving in so reckless a manner unless and until we demand they stop.

That being said, there are two possible outcomes to this fake news crisis: our media can get better, or they can get worse. If they get better, we might actually see our press begin to hold the Trump administration (and government in general) genuinely accountable for its many admitted faults. If they refuse to fix these serial problems of gullibility, credulity, outrage, and outright lying, then we will be in for a rough four years, if not more.

No one single person can fix this problem. It has to be a cultural change, a kind of shifting of priorities industry-wide. Journalists, media types, reporters, you have two choices: you can fix these problems, or you can watch your profession go down in flames.

Most of us are hoping devoutly for the former. But not even a month into the presidency of Donald J. Trump, the outlook is dim.

Typos in the names of BBC reporter Anthony Zurcher and Politico’s Lorraine Woellert have been corrected since publication.

Daniel Payne is a senior contributor at The Federalist. He currently runs the blog Trial of the Century, and lives in Virginia.
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Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/09/17 10:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : Here's a reality check of which country accepts more immigrants versus which country doesn't at all but sends out immigrants.

Did you know that the US had over 46 millions immigrants entering their country "as of 2015". The most in all the world. The second leading country is Germany with 12 billions.

Which Countries Host (And Send) The Most Migrants?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-28/which-countries-host-and-send-most-migrants

by Tyler Durden
Jan 29, 2017

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"As President Trump's executive orders ripple through the spin and propaganda strata of social- and mainstream-media channels, we thought a look at who the biggest 'givers' and 'receivers' of immigrants are in the world...

Infographic: Which countries host and send the most migrants? | Statista
You will find more statistics at Statista

According to United Nations data, there are 243 million international migrants scattered across the world, accounting for 3.4 percent of the global population.

The United States hosts the most of the them as of 2015 - some 46.6 million people. Germany comes second with 12 million while Russia rounds off the top three with 11.6 million. In terms of sending countries, India is in first place with 15.6 million.

Perhaps ironically, The United Kingdom, which is set to adopt stricter immigration controls, is one of the top-10 countries worldwide for sending migrants. In 2015, approximately 4.9 million British citizens lived in other countries."


Looks like the USA needs to stiffen its immigration laws.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/10/17 12:06 AM

My comment : Here's the real reason for the influx of immigrants in the Western Countries coming to the surface ... to eventually implement sharia law in these countries when the majority of citizens changes to becoming Wahhabist radicals. This is the real reason why all the Countries in Europe don't want them. This is the real reason why George Soros and other elites is funding large amount of money to promote and pay for these immigrants to leave their own countries.

I personally don't think they will succeed for it is time for the Lord to establishing His own Kingdom. But it's nice to see these articles that unmaskes their scheme.

Radical Islam is spreading across Belgium, Salafists preach via TV & online media – report

https://www.rt.com/news/376779-belgium-radical-islam-rising/

9 Feb, 2017

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Salafism is advancing in Belgium, a leaked report from the country’s coordination body for threat assessment says, adding that Wahhabi TV stations and online media operate freely while radical literature can be found in most Islamic bookshops.

The report by the Coordination Unit for Threat Analysis (OCAM), a special body which works in cooperation with security and intelligence agencies to assess the level of terrorist threat in Belgium, was leaked by De Standaard newspaper on Wednesday.

An increasing number of mosques and Islamic centers in Belgium are controlled by the Wahhabism,” the document states.

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Broken windows of the terminal at Brussels national airport are seen during a ceremony following bomb attacks in Brussels metro and Belgium's National airport of Zaventem, Belgium, March 23, 2016. © Yorick Jansens]

Belgium warns EU of larger influx of returning jihadists, urges greater intelligence cooperation

Wahhabism, a strict form of Islam promoted inside Saudi Arabia as well as through government programs abroad, has indirectly encouraged the rise of Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL). It is sometimes considered the true Salafist movement, and calls for a return to the original “purity” of Islam.

The movement’s tenets include the supremacy of Sharia law, the idea of violent jihad, and takfirism, which encourages the killing of Muslims considered heretics for not following its interpretation of Islam.

The Coordination Unit for Threat Analysis (OCAM) calls Wahhabism “one-dimensional Islam,” adding that it is "spreading in the Muslim world, including Muslim minorities in the West.” According to the report, many Sunni Muslims consider Wahhabi principles to be the norm these days.

Wahhabi supporters try “to turn away Muslims from West European values and standards,” which they perceive as being contrary to the teachings of the Koran, according to OCAM.

De Standaard, which read the report, says that Wahhabi imams regularly preach in Belgian mosques and many mosques are strictly Wahhabist, particularly in the cities of in Brussels, Antwerp, and Mechelen. There are even Wahhabi TV channels and online media, according to the report.

Most Islamic bookshops and online stores in Belgium offer exclusively Wahabist, Salafist [content] printed in Arabic or in translation.


Supporters of ultra-conservative Salafist Muslim group set up a stand handing out German-language versions of the Koran at the Potsdamer Platz square in downtown Berlin, April 14, 2012.© Tobias Schwarz Reuters

Thus, “a moderate imam in his mosque” can do nothing about this “media violence,” the report concludes.

OCAM CEO Paul Van Tigchelt refused to comment on the leaked report to De Standaard.

Belgium has been on high alert since twin suicide bombings hit Zaventem Airport and Maelbeek metro station on last March. The station is near the buildings of the EU Commission and the Council of the European Union, as well as the headquarters of NATO.

Numerous raids have been conducted in the mainly Muslim Molenbeek area of Brussels, which is often referred to as an “Islamist hotspot.” Many of the suspects involved in the Paris attacks grew up and lived in Molenbeek, including terrorist mastermind Abdelhamid Abaaoud, the Abdeslam brothers, and Mohamed Abrini, who was also involved in the Brussels attacks.

In November, Belgian Foreign Minister Didier Reynders warned the EU of an increasing influx of returning fighters who could carry out terrorist attacks in Europe.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/10/17 03:59 PM

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Elle : Here's a reality check of which country accepts more immigrants versus which country doesn't at all but sends out immigrants.

Did you know that the US had over 46 millions immigrants entering their country "as of 2015". The most in all the world. The second leading country is Germany with 12 millions.

Alchemy : Looks like the USA needs to stiffen its immigration laws.

I agree ... not only the USA, but also Canada, Germany, etc.... needs to stiffen their immigration laws to somehow screen out the mal-intended ones and let the benevolent ones in. It's not going to be easy for any Countries to do.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/12/17 01:01 AM

My comment : So glad to hear the news.

Now the big pandora box will be opened..... during the trials... showing the extend of this "pedophilia" ring circle and more.

It's not finish... I'm hoping to hear about the vaccines prosecutions soon .... and much more.....

Be ready to see Babylon's corrupt system being dismantle (not trusted by the common people anymore).

Pedophilia in Washington, mass arrests beginning

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...ests-beginning/

Stephen Jones

Feb 10th, 2017

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In the past ten days, and with the recent inauguration of President Trump, law enforcement agencies are now being set free to arrest pedophile rings. FBI and other law enforcement officials have been investigating these horrid practices for many years, but unfortunately, our politicians have blocked arrests except in a few cases when it was useful to destroy a few of their opponents. But now that Jeff Sessions has been sworn in as Attorney General, another big blockage has been removed that will allow mass arrests in the days to come.

On February 2, the first 474 arrests were made in California. Note in the early part of this video how a prominent pedophile logo (in an FBI report) is featured on the California Police Department badge!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY_FiFpU5FE

230 more arrests were made February 8 in Europe.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42108748/ns/us...s/#.WJ4msxHVScY

There have been many attempts to break up these European rings in past years, but since many members of the royal families either own the pedophile rings or are participants, the investigations have always been shut down or, when they were forced to do something, prosecutions were limited to one or two people. Perhaps this is about to change as well.

Here is a good report from an FBI source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAyYbDi5pZU

The Superbowl is one of the big pedophile money-makers. Normally, the pedophile rings send 10,000 prostitutes and children to the city where the Superbowl is held. The demand is huge on that occasion. Hopefully, this ring will be broken up before next year, when the event is held here in Minneapolis.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/25/17 05:55 PM

My comment : Thru the years I've always enjoyed Nigel Farage's presentations. Despite he may not have the Kingdom of God perspective in his picture, he does see quite clearly what is going on. And he's happy to see that clearly the Globalist (= Mystery Babylon) has fallen and wading away.

I think this (1st) Nigel Farage speech will become historical in time. I think it's a very nice expression! What first happened to Great Britain, and later in the USA (regaining their country's sovereignty) will happened to the rest of the world.

The next(2nd) Farage speech inside the Zerohedge article... I also agree with his perception ... I have seen what Farage is saying with my two teenagers. Our educational system needs a major reform and our children some rehabilitation from all this brainwashing.




78 Seconds Of Farage "Red-Pilling"


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-24/78-seconds-farage-red-pilling

Feb 24th, 2017

Tyler Durden

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Warning - feelings will get hurt as Nigel Farage exposes the "liberal left's hijacking" of the education process...

They have "indoctrinated an entire generation that any 'other' point of view is detestable and should be banned..."


Seriously, nobody who has already graduated college cares about your feelings. That means that when you complain to your boss because your co-worker mis-gendered you, he’s probably not going to bend over backwards to bandage your wounds. Given feelings are entirely subjective in nature, it’s completely unreasonable to demand everyone tip-toe around you to prevent yours from being hurt. The reality is that people will offend you and hurt your feelings, and they won’t stop to mop up your tears because they shouldn’t have to. Learning to accept criticism, alternative viewpoints, and even outright insults will make you happier in the long run than routinely playing the victim card.

You DO Have The Right To Live As You Please — But Not To Demand People Accept It

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By contrast, you do have the right to live however you please, so long as it’s within the confines of the law. If you want to cross-dress, smoke marijuana, drink lots of alcohol, have lots of sex, and, yes, even go to school for gender studies, then by all means, go for it. Government should not be allowed to legislate people’s behavior as long as it doesn’t infringe upon someone else’s rights, but that doesn’t mean society isn’t allowed to have an opinion. You don’t have the right to demand people keep their opinions about your lifestyle to themselves, especially if you’re open and public about it. I have as much of a right to comment on the way you live your life as you do to actually live it. Your feelings are not a protected right, but my speech is.

The Only Safe Space Is Your Home

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No matter where you go in life, someone will be there to offend you. Maybe it’s a joke you overheard on vacation, a spat at the office, or a difference of opinion with someone in line at the grocery store. Inevitably, someone will offend you and your values. If you cannot handle that without losing control of your emotions and reverting back to your “safe space” away from the harmful words of others, then you’re best to just stay put at home. Remember, though: if people in the outside world scare you, people on the internet will downright terrify you. It’s probably best to just accept these harsh realities of life and go out into the world prepared to confront them wherever they may be waiting.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/28/17 03:40 PM

My comment : Nice to see that "the too big to fail" bankers are not so big anymore.... and now .... they can be brought to justice .... if the people do something about it ... like the people of Spain did below. The people of Spain did the same thing the people of Iceland did -- get rid of Mystery Babylon's corrupt banking system out of their country. Good for them!

Former IMF Chief Sent To Jail As Spain Prosecutes 65 Elite Bankers In Enormous Corruption Scandal
http://www.activistpost.com/2017/02/form...on-scandal.html

FEBRUARY 26, 2017

By Matt Agorist

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In many other countries, excluding the United States, corrupt bankers are often brought to task by their respective governments. The most recent example of a corrupt banker being held accountable comes our of Spain, in which the former head of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), Rodrigo Rato was sentenced to four years and six months behind bars.

According to the AFP, Spain’s National Court, which deals with corruption and financial crime cases, said he had been found guilty of embezzlement when he headed up Caja Madrid and Bankia, at a time when both groups were having difficulties.

Rato, who is tied to a slew of other allegations was convicted and sentenced for misusing €12m between 2003 and 2012 — sometimes splashing out at the height of Spain’s economic crisis, according to the AFP.

The people of Spain were outraged over the scandal as it was discovered during the height of a severe financial crisis in which banks were receiving millions in taxpayer dollars. Bankia was eventually nationalized and given 22 billion in public money.

Although he was sentenced, Rato, who is also a former Spanish economy minister, remains at liberty pending a possible appeal because of highly connected elite status.

Rato was brought down in a massive effort by Spain to get rid of corruption within the banking system. The problem had gotten so bad, that Spain decided to clean house, and 65 people, include Rato, were brought to task.


According to the AFP, they were accused of having paid for personal expenses with credit cards put at their disposal by both Caja Madrid and Bankia, without ever justifying them or declaring them to tax authorities. These expenses included petrol for their cars, supermarket shopping, holidays, luxury bags or parties in nightclubs.

According to the indictment, Rato maintained the “corrupt system” established by his predecessor Miguel Blesa when he took the reins of Caja Madrid in 2010, reports the AFP. He then replicated the system when he took charge of Bankia, a group born in 2011 out of the merger of Caja Madrid with six other savings banks, prosecutors said.

According to the report:

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Rato was economy minister and deputy prime minister in the conservative government of Jose Maria Aznar from 1996 to 2004, before going on to head up the IMF until 2007. His subsequent career as a banker was short-lived — from 2010 to 2012 — but apart from the credit cards case, it also led to another banking scandal considered the country’s biggest ever.

Thousands of small-scale investors lost their money after they were persuaded to convert their savings to shares ahead of the flotation of Bankia in 2011, with Rato at the reins. Less than a year later, he resigned as it became known that Bankia was in dire straits.

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The state injected billions of euros but faced with the scale of Bankia’s losses and trouble at other banks, it asked the EU for a bailout for the banking sector and eventually received €41bn.

Rato and others were probed, accused of misleading small investors in the listing of Bankia, which has since paid out €1.2bn in compensation.

To highlight the utter corruption within the banking cartel that is the IMF, Rato is the third former chief to be ousted for illegal activity.

For those who don’t remember, Rato’s successor, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, was tried in 2015 on pimping charges in a lurid sex scandal. Naturally, he was acquitted — in spite of the fact that he admitted to engaging in illicit sex with prostitutes at a series of orgies that supposedly took place at the Hotel Carlton in the northern French city of Lille. The court sided with DSK and agreed that he had no idea the women he repeatedly filled the orgies with were being paid.

Christine Lagarde, who took over from Strauss-Kahn and is the current IMF chief, In December, was found guilty of “negligence” for approving a massive government payout to business tycoon Bernard Tapie during her tenure as French finance minister.

Despite being found guilty of corruption, Lagarde was not sentenced to a single day in jail. She has since been meeting with Trump’s Goldman Sachs-connected Treasury Secretary, Steven Mnuchin, noting that they’ve had “some very positive discussions.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/08/17 07:28 PM

My comment : I was seeing Cliff High's videos posted in some of the alternatives news bloggers sites I visit. Only last night, I had a chance to listen to some of his latest interviews... It's quite impressive what he can see from collecting linguistic-emotional content on the net. I think a lot of his perception is pretty point on.


Here's what it says in his first paragraph on his website :
www.halfpasthuman.com/ALTA)_how.html

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Predictive Linguistics is the process of using computer software to aggregate vast amounts of written text from the internet by categories delineated by emotional content of the words and using the result to make forecasts based on the emotional 'tone' changes within the larger population. A form of 'collective sub-conscious expression' is a good way to think of it. Predictive linguistics can be used to forecast trends at many different levels, from the detail of sales to individuals, all the way up to forecasts about emerging global population trends.


Clif High-Chaos Starts Middle of March

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/09/17 12:23 AM

My comment : Is this perception correct? I am very surprised and shocked to find out that Canada's Banks are the most unstable and riskiest banking systems!!

Daryl had ask about the Canadian Banks about 3 years ago. And we both thought that our banks were more susbtainable and better than all other countries. I am quite surprised.

Does this means we're going to get hit sooner and harder than other countries when things hits harder? Remember Canada(under Trudeau's watch) sold all our gold at the beginning of 2016.

"When one thinks of unstable, risky banking systems, the first thing that comes to mind are visions of insolvent, state-backed building - with or without long ATM lines - in China, Greece, Italy or, in recent times, Germany. However, according to the most recent report by the Bank for International Settlements, the country with the riskiest banking system is neither of these, and is a rather "unusual suspect.
...

"But what is most surprising is which country has triggered 3 of the four "financial crisis early earning indicators", and is on the verge of tripping the fourth one as well: as we said above it's neither China, nor Greece, nor Italy or Germany, but, drumroll, Canada."


Whose Banks Are Riskiest: A Surprising Answer From The BIS

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-08/whose-banks-are-riskiest-surprising-answer-bis

by Tyler Durden
Mar 8, 2017
Quote:
When one thinks of unstable, risky banking systems, the first thing that comes to mind are visions of insolvent, state-backed building - with or without long ATM lines - in China, Greece, Italy or, in recent times, Germany. However, according to the most recent report by the Bank for International Settlements, the country with the riskiest banking system is neither of these, and is a rather "unusual suspect."

As part of its latest quarterly report, the BIS looked at highlights of global financial flows, and found that after a modest slowdown in 2015, growth in both claims and international denominated debt securities resumed its rise in 2016, leaving banks even more exposed as counterparties to international issuers, especially should the world hit another "Dollar margin call" situation, where borrowers are unable to make payments on their obligations due to a surge in the global reserve currency.



However, cross-border international debt flows is just one aspect of bank riskiness. As part of a separate excercise profiling the domestic banking systems of some of the most prominent Developed and Emerging nations, the BIS looked at four distinct "risk" or crisis early warning indicators: i) Credit-to-GDP gap, or the difference in the current ratio from the long-run trend; ii) Property Price Gap, or the deviation of real residential property prices from their long-run trend, iii) Debt Service Ratio (DSR), which also is the deviation in the current DSR from the long-run average, and finally iv) DSR assuming a 2.50% increase in interest rates.

What it found is that the early warning indicators for financial crises continue to signal vulnerabilities in several jurisdictions. Here is what it found:

relative to previous readings, the set of countries showing large and positive credit-to-GDP gaps remained the same (first column). The credit gap for China remained high at 26.3% of GDP, well above the threshold of 10%.9 Canada, as well as a group of Asian countries, saw increases in the credit gap since September 2016. The size of the property price gap (second column) remains in line with historical trends in many jurisdictions, with the exception of Canada, Germany, Greece, Japan, Portugal and a group of central and eastern European countries, for which the gaps remain relatively large. However, a high reading need not indicate accelerating price growth - for Greece, Japan and Portugal, the high property price gap does not necessarily indicate vulnerabilities, as it is driven by property price growth returning to normal levels after long periods of decline.

The last two columns of Table 1 present two alternative measures of debt service ratios, which aim to capture aggregate principal and interest payments in relation to income for the total private non-financial sector. For most countries, debt service ratios stand at manageable levels under the assumption of no change in interest rates (third column). Under more stressed conditions - a 250 basis point increase in rates - and assuming 100% pass-through, the numbers point to potential risks in Canada, China and Turkey (fourth column). However, the figures are meant to be only indicative, and are not the outcome of a proper stress test: a rise in rates would take time to translate into higher debt service. The degree of pass-through depends on the share of debt at floating rates, debt maturities and possible changes in borrowing behaviour.
The table below summarizes the early warning indicators for domestic banking risks produced by the BIS, with data up to Q3 2016 for most countries. But what is most surprising is which country has triggered 3 of the four "financial crisis early earning indicators", and is on the verge of tripping the fourth one as well: as we said above it's neither China, nor Greece, nor Italy or Germany, but, drumroll, Canada.



Regular readers are well-aware that Canada is very touchy when anyone suggests that its banks may not be... in pristine shape. Good luck brushing it off, however, when the source is none other than the central banks' central bank.

Source: BIS
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/11/17 08:32 AM

CIA hacking exposed by Wikileaks
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/03-2017/cia-hacking-exposed-by-wikileaks/

March 10, 2017

by Stephen Jones

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Earlier this week, Wikileaks published close to 9,000 CIA emails and information showing how the CIA has been hacking US corporations and foreign governments. It is called Vault 7. They are able to hack virtually every cellphone in America. The CIA also uses something called UMBRAGE, which allows them to leave a trail that makes it look like the hacking was done by Russia.

http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-03-07-va...indows-pcs.html

Needless to say, this is a huge embarrassment to the CIA and a severe blow to those who have tried to blame Russia for hacking—supposedly to help President Trump win the last election.

Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, is now helping US corporations defend itself against the CIA’s cyberweapons arsenal. That has to drive the Babylonians crazy.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world...sange/98946128/

Dr. Steve Pieczenik says that these exposures will continue as long as the “Deep State” (CIA) refuses to back down from its war on Donald Trump. Each exposure will be worse than the last. He says that most of the rank-and-file personnel of the CIA are good patriotic men and women, but that the leaders who have been put into place by the presidents are the problem. They are in positions to use the CIA for the “Deep State” agenda that actually works against the people and against the Republic.

Now that the CIA is under new leadership under Trump, things are changing, but there are still a lot of lower-level officials who refuse to abandon their seditious practices. A big part of this is that they use the pedophile files on government and military officials to blackmail them into working with them in trying to overthrow President Trump.

The war is on, as Trump drains the swamp. One of these days, those college kids are going to figure out that the Babylonians they have been supporting are their real enemies.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/12/17 06:56 PM

My comment : Looks like another "Deep State" [aka Mystery Babylon] occupied country is being released by "the PEOPLE"! Where the citizens are kicking out of office the Deep State's pup-pets rulers. I'm happy to see this occuring in South Korea right now with all the tension developping between China and the Deep State which are using North Korea and South Korea as their pions! Well at least that's my discernment of it.

Entering The Age of Governmental Change!

So by the end of 2017 we might have at least 7 western countries in total where the people voted to regain their Country's Sovereignty and be freed from the evil Octopus!

I'm all for that! Hopefully Canada and many other nations will be added to this list very soon also! I don't know if this list is complete or not.... but I'll edit it as I hear other news.

List of Nations regaining their Sovereignty!

#1. -- Great Britain (in 2016)
#2. -- the USA (in 2016)

------------- coming in 2017 --------------------------

#3. -- The Netherlands, March 15, 2017
#4. -- France, April 23, 2017
#5. -- South Korea ("snap shot election" on May 9, 2017)
#6. -- Italy, no later than May 23, 2017
#7. -- Germany, September 24, 2017
#8. -- .... (maybe some more to be added)

Let's see if we will see more "un-expected" election in 2017 besides South Korea!

South Korea's President Has Been Removed From Office After Court Upholds Impeachment

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-09...lds-impeachment

---- Some article highlights --------

"The nation has been sharply divided along ideological and generational lines since the scandal broke in October, pushing millions of people into the streets to rally for or against the impeachment.

..."Hundreds of thousands of South Koreans braved the brutally cold winter temperatures to take to the streets of Seoul and call for Park's ouster.
"

"...triggering a presidential election in the weeks to come. A snap election my be held within 60 days."

"A snap presidential election will be held by May 9."


Mar 9th, 2017

by Tyler Durden

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South Korea's constitutional court has voted unanimously, 8-0, to uphold the impeachment of President Park Guen-hye, removing her from office after a 92-day leadership crisis and triggering a presidential election in the weeks to come. A snap election my be held within 60 days.

The ruling, which was announced by the court's acting chief and televised live, made Park the nation's first democratically elected leader to be ousted. She was impeached by parliament on Dec. 9 on charges of letting a close friend meddle in state affairs, colluding with her to extort money from conglomerates, and neglecting her duties during a 2014 ferry sinking that killed more than 300.

The court's decision strips Park of her immunity from criminal prosecution, which will force her to undergo interrogation by prosecutors over her alleged crimes.


President Park Geun-hye (R) and Lee Jung-mi, acting chief of the Constitutional Court

"The Constitutional Court's decision is equivalent to demanding legal accountability for President Park's failure to properly run state affairs," said Yang Seung-ham, honorary professor at Seoul's Yonsei University. "Now the public should accept the ruling."

The nation has been sharply divided along ideological and generational lines since the scandal broke in October, pushing millions of people into the streets to rally for or against the impeachment.

Park's problems began in October, when revelations emerged about the influence Park's confidante and adviser Choi Soon-sil had over the President. Choi is currently on trial for abuse of power and fraud. What followed later was 5 months of at times sheer chaos (see full timeline below) culminating with today's decision.

Local media and opposition parties had accused Choi of abusing her relationship with the president to force companies to donate millions of dollars to foundations she runs. She denies all charges against her.

Hundreds of thousands of South Koreans braved the brutally cold winter temperatures to take to the streets of Seoul and call for Park's ouster.

In a brief televised apology however, Park made it clear that she had no intentions of resigning. In December, the National Assembly voted 234 to 56 to impeach her.

Park was impeached in December after being accused of corruption. She is alleged to have let her close confidante Choi Soon Sil meddle in state affairs and conspired with her to extort money from major companies including Samsung.

Local pundits cited by Yonhap said the court's decision demonstrated that South Korea's democratic system is firmly in place. "We have undergone a process of resolving considerable conflict and differences in a predictable manner through legal procedures stipulated in the Constitution," said Park Myoung-kyu, a sociology professor at Seoul National University. "Now is the time to calm down and turn (the conflict) into policy debates and arguments."

The president's supporters and detractors rallied outside the court as police officers and police buses were deployed to prevent a possible clash.

* * *

Below is the full timeline of the Park scandal:

October

24 - South Korean cable TV network JTBC reports that Park's longtime friend Choi edited some of the president's speeches. Prosecutors were already investigating claims that Choi had used her relationship with Park to raise funds for two foundations.
25 - Park apologizes on national television, saying Choi had access to dozens of presidential speeches before they were made public.
29 - Thousands of anti-government protesters gather in Seoul, calling for Park's resignation. Organizers estimate the crowd at 20,000; police put attendance at 9,000.
31 - As Choi arrives at the prosecutors' offices, following a two-month stay in Germany, she apologizes, saying she has committed "an unpardonable crime." Late that night, prosecutors place Choi in emergency detention.

November

1 - Prosecutors raid the offices of eight banks. Choi is suspected, among other things, of getting preferential treatment from local banks for loans.
2 - Park nominates a new prime minister, Kim Byong Joon, a member of an opposition party, in a bid to quell the controversy.
3 - A South Korean district court issues an arrest warrant for Choi. Kim, the prime minister-designate, says Park could be investigated, saying, "Everyone is equal before the law."
4 - Park again apologizes on TV, saying she will cooperate in the investigation.
5 - Thousands of protesters take to the streets of Seoul to demand Park's resignation. Organizers say about 100,000 people participate; police put the number at 40,000.
6 - Prosecutors issue warrants for two of Park's former aides, AnChong Bum and Jeong Ho Seong, who both resigned the previous week. Prosecutors continue to question Choi.
8 - Prosecutors search the offices of electronics giant Samsung. Park says she will withdraw her nominee for prime minister.
12 - The biggest protest yet takes place near the presidential palace in Seoul. Organizers say 500,000 people participate; police put the number at 190,000. Protests are planned in 40 other cities in South Korea and abroad.
13 - Prosecutors say they plan to question Park.
17 - South Korea's parliament passes a bill to open up an independent enquiry into Park's friendship with Choi. The legislation seeks 60 investigators and a special prosecutor to lead the case.
19 - Protestors again gather in Seoul.
20 - Prosecutors say Park is likely to have played a role in the corruption scandal but that they cannot indict her, as the country's constitution guarantees the president immunity "except in cases of insurrection or treason."
21 - The country's largest opposition party says it will take steps to begin impeachment proceedings against Park.

December

1 - South Korea's ruling party pushes for Park to resign in April, saying presidential elections planned for the end of 2017 could be brought forward to June.
2 - The country's three opposition parties say they will vote December 9 on impeachment, even if Park announces a plan to resign. Park plans to meet with members of her own ruling party over the weekend.
3 - Hundreds of thousands of demonstrators march within 100 metres of Park's official residence.
6 - Park says she won't immediately resign if impeached. Five thousand South Koreans file a lawsuit demanding compensation from Park for mental suffering caused by the scandal.
9 - Lawmakers including members of her own party vote to impeach Park
16 - In a 24-page document, Park's lawyers argue that there is no legal foundation for her removal.
19 - Park's influential friend Choi Soon Sil goes on trial on charges of abuse of authority and attempted fraud.

January

3 - The first open hearing in Park's impeachment trial is held. As expected, she does not attend.

February

17 - Samsung heir Lee Jae Yong is arrested over bribery allegations linked to the corruption scandal.

March

9 - Lee denies bribing Park and Choi on the first day of his trial
10 - The Constitional Court upholds Park's impeachment



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-12...icial-residence

March 12, 2017

Police Escort South Korea's Former President Out Of Her Official Residence

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South Korea's disgraced president struck a defiant tone on Friday morning when a constitutional court unanimously upheld the decision to impeach Park Guen-hye: she did not appear in court and a spokesman said she would not be making any comment nor would she leave the presidential Blue House residence on Friday. "For now, Park is not leaving the Blue House today," Blue House spokesman Kim Dong Jo told Reuters. That changed on Sunday, when Park Geun-hye, 65, who has become South Korea's first democratically elected leader to be forced from office, left the official presidential Blue House residence on Sunday in a motorcade of fast-driving black cars, flanked by police motorbikes.

And, like Friday, the former president who now faces life as a private citizen and the possibility of prison time, was likewise defiant upon arriving at her private home in the Gangnam district of the capital, Seoul: "I feel sorry that I could not finish the mandate given to me as president," a spokesman for Park, member of parliament Min Kyung-wook, quoted her as saying. "It will take time, but I believe the truth will be revealed," Park said in her first public comments since her dismissal.

It was not the first time the former president has had to leave the Blue House compound of traditional-style buildings at the foot of a hill in Seoul.

In 1979, after a nine-day funeral following the assassination of her father, the young Park left the Blue House with her siblings for a family home. She had been acting first lady after her mother was shot and killed in an earlier failed assassination attempt on her father. Now, having lost presidential immunity, she could face criminal charges over bribery, extortion and abuse of power in connection with allegations of conspiring with her friend, Choi Soon-sil. Both women denied wrongdoing.

In a departure from her recent stubborn refusal to accept responsibility for the events that culminated with Friday's

Constitutional Court on Friday upholding a parliamentary impeachment vote over an influence-peddling scandal that has shaken the political and business elite, without blaming outside intervention, like for example Russian hacking.

"I take responsibility for the outcome of all this," Min quoted her as saying according to Reuters.

A snap presidential election will be held by May 9. Her dismissal followed months of political paralysis and turmoil over the scandal that also landed the head of the Samsung conglomerate in jail and facing trial. The crisis has coincided with rising tension with North Korea and anger from China over the deployment in South Korea of a U.S. missile-defense system.

Meanwhile, throngs of flag-waving supporters crowded the street outside Park's home as she arrived there about 30 minutes after leaving the presidential palace. She waved through her car's tinted window as it inched its way down the street, with security men in suits walking alongside. She stepped out smiling, the public's first glimpse of her since her dismissal, and greeted supporters.


Supporters of the now former president gather at her Seoul residence on Sunday

According to Korea Herald, loyalists to former President Park Geun-hye flocked nearby her private residence in southern Seoul late Sunday, seeking to bid farewell to the state chief who faced an earlier-than-expected end of her tenure upon impeachment.


Park Geun-hye smiles to her supporters in front of her old home in Samseong-dong

The residential neighborhood in Samseong-dong was crammed with hundreds awaiting the retreat of the former president to her home. In addition to some 800 police officers who kept guard at the scene, a considerable number of Park supporters, including ranking pro-Park lawmakers, former secretariat chiefs and members of the anti-impeachment civic group, were present. Police said over 1,000 gathered. A smiling Park shook hands and exchanged greetings with her former aides and political allies in front of her home, as her followers shouted messages of encouragement.

Rep. Cho Won-jin, a former public affairs strategist of the party and ranking Park aide, was the first to arrive at the scene earlier in the afternoon. Reps. Yoon Sang-hyun, Kim Jin-tae and Park Dae-chul, who have participated in the Taegeukgi rallies to oppose Park‘s impeachment, were also there. “The intention is not so much to offer consolation, but to bid farewell,” said one of the pro-Park lawmakers.

While lawmakers and former secretariat officials retained composure, preparing for Park’s arrival, members of Parksamo -- the official group of Park’s supporters -- let out enraged responses. After Cheong Wa Dae confirmed Park’s departure at 7:16 p.m., some 800 Park supporters became restless, shouting out the former president’s name and cursing the Constitutional Court for its impeachment ruling.

* * *

Elsewhere, the liberal politician likely to become the next president, Moon Jae-in, promised to work for justice and common sense. "We still have a long way to go. We have to make this a country of justice, of common sense through regime change," Moon, who advocates reconciliation with North Korea, told a news conference.

Moon is leading in opinion polls, which show South Koreans are likely to throw out the conservatives after nearly a decade in power and turn to a liberal leader. Moon called on Park to publicly accept the court ruling, which she now appears to have done, however the transition did not come without a tragedy. On Friday, two Park supporters were killed as they tried to break through police lines outside the court, shortly after the verdict. One was believed to have had a heart attack and the other died as the Park supporters attacked police buses. A third, a man aged 74, suffered a heart attack and died on Saturday.

Thousands of Park's opponents celebrated in Seoul on Saturday, where they have been gathering every weekend for months, and demanded that she be arrested. The former president's conservative supporters also took to the streets not far away, though fewer in number. Police were out in force but there was no trouble.

The chaos in South Korea's political establishment comes at a sensitive time for the nation: the country's northern neighbor, North Korea, has been acting in an increasingly irrational fashion in recent weeks, and according to the Predata-Beyond Parallel think tank the odds of a North Korean WMD attack in the next month have topped 60%.

Another ballistic missile launch could provoke an armed response by both Japan and China, and potentially see the deployment of the controversial THAAD missiles recently deployed by the US in South Korea which could further escalate the tension in the region.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/12/17 07:39 PM

I was further thinking about the BIS report below stating that Canada's banks was the riskiest of all in the world. Like anything else that comes out of Mystery Babylon's mouth.... is often over 70% lies with some level of manipulations and twisting of numbers.

All central Banks in Babylon's DEBT SYSTEM are risky ...well they are all bankrupt!!!! ....... and I don't believe that Canada is that much riskier than the others.

Jim Willie said in his March 8th interview on x22, that they think that the BIS will strategically will start to amputate some of their central banks off slowly to buy in a little extra time, before all other banks follow. So sacrificing Canada first, might be better than sacrificing any Central Banks in Europe?

So that could be the case that Canada might be one of the first banks to crash. We know that about 2 years ago, they put into law a bail-in to save the banks. If they do that.... well... Canadians are not going to be happy! If that happens ....in the long run.... I believe this would be a good thing --- it will be very hard -- but good that it will get the people to yurn and ask for some real changes.

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : Is this perception correct? I am very surprised and shocked to find out that Canada's Banks are the most unstable and riskiest banking systems!!

Daryl had ask about the Canadian Banks about 3 years ago. And we both thought that our banks were more susbtainable and better than all other countries. I am quite surprised.

Does this means we're going to get hit sooner and harder than other countries when things hits harder? Remember Canada(under Trudeau's watch) sold all our gold at the beginning of 2016.

"When one thinks of unstable, risky banking systems, the first thing that comes to mind are visions of insolvent, state-backed building - with or without long ATM lines - in China, Greece, Italy or, in recent times, Germany. However, according to the most recent report by the Bank for International Settlements, the country with the riskiest banking system is neither of these, and is a rather "unusual suspect.
...

"But what is most surprising is which country has triggered 3 of the four "financial crisis early earning indicators", and is on the verge of tripping the fourth one as well: as we said above it's neither China, nor Greece, nor Italy or Germany, but, drumroll, Canada."


Whose Banks Are Riskiest: A Surprising Answer From The BIS

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-08/whose-banks-are-riskiest-surprising-answer-bis

by Tyler Durden
Mar 8, 2017
Quote:
When one thinks of unstable, risky banking systems, the first thing that comes to mind are visions of insolvent, state-backed building - with or without long ATM lines - in China, Greece, Italy or, in recent times, Germany. However, according to the most recent report by the Bank for International Settlements, the country with the riskiest banking system is neither of these, and is a rather "unusual suspect."

As part of its latest quarterly report, the BIS looked at highlights of global financial flows, and found that after a modest slowdown in 2015, growth in both claims and international denominated debt securities resumed its rise in 2016, leaving banks even more exposed as counterparties to international issuers, especially should the world hit another "Dollar margin call" situation, where borrowers are unable to make payments on their obligations due to a surge in the global reserve currency.



However, cross-border international debt flows is just one aspect of bank riskiness. As part of a separate excercise profiling the domestic banking systems of some of the most prominent Developed and Emerging nations, the BIS looked at four distinct "risk" or crisis early warning indicators: i) Credit-to-GDP gap, or the difference in the current ratio from the long-run trend; ii) Property Price Gap, or the deviation of real residential property prices from their long-run trend, iii) Debt Service Ratio (DSR), which also is the deviation in the current DSR from the long-run average, and finally iv) DSR assuming a 2.50% increase in interest rates.

What it found is that the early warning indicators for financial crises continue to signal vulnerabilities in several jurisdictions. Here is what it found:

relative to previous readings, the set of countries showing large and positive credit-to-GDP gaps remained the same (first column). The credit gap for China remained high at 26.3% of GDP, well above the threshold of 10%.9 Canada, as well as a group of Asian countries, saw increases in the credit gap since September 2016. The size of the property price gap (second column) remains in line with historical trends in many jurisdictions, with the exception of Canada, Germany, Greece, Japan, Portugal and a group of central and eastern European countries, for which the gaps remain relatively large. However, a high reading need not indicate accelerating price growth - for Greece, Japan and Portugal, the high property price gap does not necessarily indicate vulnerabilities, as it is driven by property price growth returning to normal levels after long periods of decline.

The last two columns of Table 1 present two alternative measures of debt service ratios, which aim to capture aggregate principal and interest payments in relation to income for the total private non-financial sector. For most countries, debt service ratios stand at manageable levels under the assumption of no change in interest rates (third column). Under more stressed conditions - a 250 basis point increase in rates - and assuming 100% pass-through, the numbers point to potential risks in Canada, China and Turkey (fourth column). However, the figures are meant to be only indicative, and are not the outcome of a proper stress test: a rise in rates would take time to translate into higher debt service. The degree of pass-through depends on the share of debt at floating rates, debt maturities and possible changes in borrowing behaviour.
The table below summarizes the early warning indicators for domestic banking risks produced by the BIS, with data up to Q3 2016 for most countries. But what is most surprising is which country has triggered 3 of the four "financial crisis early earning indicators", and is on the verge of tripping the fourth one as well: as we said above it's neither China, nor Greece, nor Italy or Germany, but, drumroll, Canada.



Regular readers are well-aware that Canada is very touchy when anyone suggests that its banks may not be... in pristine shape. Good luck brushing it off, however, when the source is none other than the central banks' central bank.

Source: BIS
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/19/17 02:00 PM

My comment : We might be able to add to our list of countries that want to regain their sovereignty [see post #182748 above] Denmark and South Africa eventually.

The reason for St-Africa is different for Denmark. But for Denmark and other Western countries, Mystery Babylon's plan (to destroy these nations with the influx of immigrants) is backfiring and accelerating the process for these captive nations to regain their sovereignty.

I'm only quoting the Denmark article as I think it is a pretty good interview of a well known columnist in Denmark. She's a Christian and has some very sound discernment about protecting our Christian nation's identity and how Sweden is rapidly loosing there's. And why did Denmark haven't yet?

This is the threat of the in-flux of large quantity of immigrants. Canada is big on pushing multi-culturalism. With the US closing their doors....they are saying the influx coming thru Mexican borders will be diverted here and those that already entered the US illegally are seeking to enter Canada(read link here).

There's no problem in accepting some immigrants that wants to integrate to our society and laws. The problems comes when the immigrants don't want to integrate and wants their own laws, their own schools, and etc... --- that's how we inherit big social problems and are at risk of losing our own country and identity when the number of immigrants[& their futur children] comes to out-number the nation's population.

I perceive that this "multi-cultural" indoctrination & practice is not Biblical. It seems that the Lord wants to protect the characteristics and identity of each nation. I haven't done any heavy personal study on this subject; but I once read years ago a very good discussion that took place on Adventist online that an well educated Adventist Native Indian (Cherokee?) had done extensive Biblical studies about Nations. And I did perceive then that he was point on scriptures.

Is Denmark On The Brink?
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/denmark-brink-interview-iben-tranholm-erico-matias-tavares

Authored by Erico Matias Tavares via Sinclair & Co.,

----------Some quotes from the interview ----------

"The Swedish media, which is quite pro-government and its leftwing policies, does not always report the full extent of the problems in their society. So it is hard to have a very accurate picture of what is going on. But we in Denmark have a good sense. We are very aware of the murders, rapes, riots, violence and the hand grenades that go on there. This does not often make the news but we know it is going on. And we don’t want to go down the same route.

This is the result of decades of policies promoting multiculturalism in Sweden. And what is left is this hollow house. You know, in the Bible it is said that if a house is left swept, tidied and unoccupied it eventually it will be taken over by evil. And I fear that this is what is happening in Sweden. Far from being a multicultural paradise, the problems can no longer remain hidden."

"IT: We are not as politically correct as the Swedes. So there is a lot of discussion here. (…) As such we have a greater awareness of our heritage and tend to be more protective of it.

Which is not to say we don’t have problems. We do. We face the same identity issues, and our traditions – in particular our Christian heritage – are fast disappearing from our society. That same hollowness is now becoming mainstream in Denmark. And this eliminates much of the arguments to defend ourselves against the importation of foreign values and customs, many of which are at odds with our own. Simply forbidding things will not change this reality.

"IT: We have a very divided society here as well, even without considering the waves of immigration that have recently settled here.

Half of the population wants open borders, mass immigration and welfare for all. They reject traditional values and are very much in favor of globalism and multiculturalism. The other half is very much opposed to that, but they lack any persuasive arguments to support that position. All they can do is to forbid immigration, forbid women from wearing a head cloth and so on.

We no longer have a moral compass. Before, Christianity provided this role, keeping us united over centuries. Now we can no longer distinguish between good and evil, and ultimately this is what this struggle comes down to. Without this any preventive measures like this are just quick fixes that will not solve anything over the longer term. What is needed is a positive alternative in a moral sense.

"IT: No. The only discussion is around the cultural aspect, namely the impact on our values and traditions.

And in a sense this just shows how weak we are. For instance, there are only 250,000 Muslims in Denmark, so a tiny minority. And yet the majority of our political debates focusing on culture over the last ten years have largely revolved around Islam. That’s how weak our culture has become.

"IT: That would be logical in many ways, but again the debate is not economical. People want to be perceived as doing good, meaning opening their communities, welcoming and caring for others.

I would be in favor of that if we were talking about women and their children, even families. But the reality is different. The majority of people we have welcomed in recent years, especially following the migrant crisis, are fit young men. They bring their conflicts and their frustrations with them, creating a difficult environment for everyone.

"All this talk of multiculturalism and open borders sounds very nice, but in practice it has led to a progressive transformation of our societies, and as Sweden shows not for the better. Less freedoms, less safety, less cohesion; more crime, more fragmentation, more social problems. It really is a struggle of good versus evil, and we in the West can no longer distinguish between the two. I would even call it diabolical disorientation.

"IT: No European politician will stand up for Christianity. Nobody.

"There is this unholy alliance between the left and radical Islam.

"Christianity runs very deep in Russia: in their literature, in their arts, in their culture. When the Soviets brutally tried to suppress it, at the cost of countless lives, it survived underground. People still celebrated it in secrecy, performing baptisms and the like behind closed doors.

"That is what the right-wing parties in Europe don’t understand. This is a spiritual battle. There is no political freedom without spiritual freedom.
"

Quote:
Iben Thranholm examines political and social events with focus on their religious aspects, significance and moral implications. She is one of Denmark’s most widely read columnists on such matters. Thranholm is a former editor and radio host at the Danish Broadcasting Corporation (DR), at which she created a religious news program that set a new standard for religious analysis in the newsroom. She has traveled extensively in the Middle East, Italy, the United States and Russia to carry out research and interviews. She has been awarded for her investigative research into Danish media coverage of religious issues.

E Tavares: Iben, thank you for being with us today. Over a year ago we talked to Dr. Tino Sanandaji, an economics professor at a leading Swedish university, on the inconsistencies of Swedish immigration policies. The resulting post was hit, revealing a significant interest for this topic.

In a sense Sweden is the canary in the coalmine of Europe’s demographic future, since they have been at the forefront of this transformation and openly embrace it. Being a close neighbor we would like to get your views on what is happening there, as well as in Denmark. How to the Danes look at Sweden, with hope or apprehension?

I Tranholm: With absolute horror!

The Swedish media, which is quite pro-government and its leftwing policies, does not always report the full extent of the problems in their society. So it is hard to have a very accurate picture of what is going on. But we in Denmark have a good sense. We are very aware of the murders, rapes, riots, violence and the hand grenades that go on there. This does not often make the news but we know it is going on. And we don’t want to go down the same route.

This is the result of decades of policies promoting multiculturalism in Sweden. And what is left is this hollow house. You know, in the Bible it is said that if a house is left swept, tidied and unoccupied it eventually it will be taken over by evil. And I fear that this is what is happening in Sweden. Far from being a multicultural paradise, the problems can no longer remain hidden.

ET: Indeed, even President Trump made some controversial comments about Sweden at a recent rally in the US, causing an international uproar, with many debates on whether he was right or wrong. Did this cause some discussion in Denmark as well?

IT: It wasn’t much of a discussion because we in Denmark know what is happening in Sweden. Malmo is very close so we only need to go there to see it with our own eyes.

There was a TV ad partially paid by the Swedish government recommending that all Swedes integrate into this new multicultural society they are creating. Think about that. Even old Swedes now need to adjust to this new reality, instead of immigrants adapting to Swedish society. They call it “Det nya landet”, which means the new country. Traditional Sweden is gone.

ET: Swedes and Danes share many cultural traits. What explains this divergence in opinions? Is it because you do not face the same societal problems?

IT: We are not as politically correct as the Swedes. So there is a lot of discussion here. (…) As such we have a greater awareness of our heritage and tend to be more protective of it.

Which is not to say we don’t have problems. We do. We face the same identity issues, and our traditions – in particular our Christian heritage – are fast disappearing from our society. That same hollowness is now becoming mainstream in Denmark. And this eliminates much of the arguments to defend ourselves against the importation of foreign values and customs, many of which are at odds with our own. Simply forbidding things will not change this reality.

ET: And how has integration been? Seems to be going better than other European countries since we don’t hear much about “no-go” zones and riots in your country, unlike France and Sweden, for instance.

IT: We have those problems as well but because Denmark is a small country you won’t hear about them as much.

We have this belief here that welfare is the solution for everything. No matter who comes here from whatever part of the world will get housing, work, entertainment and healthcare. The government will give those to you with the expectation that if you have all those things you will happily assimilate into Danish society, learn Danish and adapt to our culture. As a result we will become a vibrant multicultural society.

The reality is quite different. The relativism that this multiculturalism engenders ends up putting different sides of society at odds with each other, especially when their values and beliefs are very different to begin with.

When immigrants come to Denmark they may be taken care of, but they have no dominant culture that they can assimilate into, certainly not in the religious sense. We are completely devoid of God. And as a result they end bringing elements of their culture and religion which often create friction, misunderstandings and also crime. So Danish society becomes more and more divided as a result.

ET: Politicians seem to be getting the message. Your parliament recently passed legislation to ensure that immigration would never reach a level that would threaten Danish national identity. What do you make of this?

IT: We have a very divided society here as well, even without considering the waves of immigration that have recently settled here.

Half of the population wants open borders, mass immigration and welfare for all. They reject traditional values and are very much in favor of globalism and multiculturalism. The other half is very much opposed to that, but they lack any persuasive arguments to support that position. All they can do is to forbid immigration, forbid women from wearing a head cloth and so on.

We no longer have a moral compass. Before, Christianity provided this role, keeping us united over centuries. Now we can no longer distinguish between good and evil, and ultimately this is what this struggle comes down to. Without this any preventive measures like this are just quick fixes that will not solve anything over the longer term. What is needed is a positive alternative in a moral sense.

ET: Is there any data or independent studies on the benefits and costs of immigration in Denmark? In Sweden for instance this topic is almost taboo, but there are many concerns in terms of finding good employment opportunities for immigrants, coming from the immigrants themselves in fact.

IT: With this new culture we have adopted in the West we stopped having enough children to support our welfare state. So yes, one argument is that we need more people to support it.

In our own very secular society the state is God. It is supposed to provide and care for everybody. So the economic arguments become less relevant. Of course they are consideration since people are paying for these policies, but in a sense they are secondary.

ET: We are at the cusp of an automation wave that threatens to displace millions of workers across the developed world. This will raise even more concerns regarding mass immigration, which traditionally consists of lower skilled workers. Is there any discussion in Denmark about this?

IT: No. The only discussion is around the cultural aspect, namely the impact on our values and traditions.

And in a sense this just shows how weak we are. For instance, there are only 250,000 Muslims in Denmark, so a tiny minority. And yet the majority of our political debates focusing on culture over the last ten years have largely revolved around Islam. That’s how weak our culture has become.

So while as an open society there is resistance to women having to cover themselves up, having separate swimming pools for men and women and so forth, we have lost the argument to combat these imported traditions largely because we have lost our Christian roots and values. So over time they will become more prevalent in our society. We are already seeing it.

ET: Secular Muslims may also lose out a result. Many cherish Western values but will increasingly find a native society that is at odds with them, as their own communities become more extremist. Many complain that the Islam in Denmark and other European countries is more hardcore or even radical than in their home countries.

IT: That is true. And again that is largely a result of this cultural hesitation in the societies that host them. As a result, those more aggressive forms gain more ground to the detriment of everyone, especially women.

ET: Much of the developing world faces a difficult situation and undoubtedly the countries that can help should. Let’s face it, faulty Western foreign policies have made bad situations even worse across much of the Middle East, although other very important sectarian and ethnic conflicts play a large role as well.

There are those who suggest that instead of opening the borders this help should be provided at the origin, which would be cheaper and thus could help many more people, would place refugees closer to their homes and avoid many of the social problems we are unfortunately seeing across Europe – caused by a minority to be sure, but still very problematic. What do Danish politicians think about this?

IT: That would be logical in many ways, but again the debate is not economical. People want to be perceived as doing good, meaning opening their communities, welcoming and caring for others.

I would be in favor of that if we were talking about women and their children, even families. But the reality is different. The majority of people we have welcomed in recent years, especially following the migrant crisis, are fit young men. They bring their conflicts and their frustrations with them, creating a difficult environment for everyone.

So yes, arguably it would be more efficient to provide care at the source but this is not how the debate is framed.

ET: Denmark is supposedly the happiest country on the planet. But you have little reason to be happy these days as you find yourself on the receiving end of government censorship, not only for expressing your concerns about the future of your country but also for working for a Russian news outlet. What happened here? You recently wrote a powerful piece about this, expressing your feelings not only as a woman who does not toe the party line but especially as a Christian.

IT: In 2015 I wrote an article criticizing our politicians who for the most part hate Christianity but nevertheless use Christian values, especially charity and compassion, to promote their own agendas, in particular mass immigration. So I called them out on that.

A few months later I got a call from a politician here who told me that I was on a government blacklist, supposedly acting as a pro-Russian propagandist agent, despite having absolutely no evidence to that effect. I occasionally work for a Russian news outlet, but that’s simply my job as a journalist.

Today, in a society where supposedly there is freedom of speech, if politicians want to silence their critics they simply accuse them of working for the Kremlin, or having some unexplained ties with Russia. That is what happened to me, and it also happening to high profile politicians and journalists in the US, France and Germany. If you don’t agree with the multicultural policies of Europe then you are labeled a Russian agent. Which is really a form of political or character assassination.

They are so afraid of the rise of what leftist politicians in Europe call “populism”, which threaten the existence of their beloved European Union. And this year the stakes are very high with elections in France and Germany. So they resort to these kinds of tactics to quash any dissenters.

So I find myself in a blacklist in a supposedly free country like Denmark, but if a conflict with Russia emerges I can end up in prison under the pretext of being a foreign agent. Again, with no proof and no judicial process. This is very much how totalitarian societies operate. First they put you on a list, then when there is a problem or a made-up reason they will come for you.

ET: You were only expressing views that are consistent with those of many conservatives on both sides of the Atlantic. There are certainly many people concerned about the future of Western societies. In many ways this evokes memories of the Soviet Union, and the great new society they tried to create, with the disastrous consequences we all know.

That is actually a very real and concerning comparison. After all, communism was a Western idea and it was imposed on Russia, they did not create it. And it did not die with the collapse of the Soviet Union. On the contrary, it is still very much alive and roaming around our continent. While it operates differently, the goals are not too dissimilar. The version we have spreading across the West is Cultural Marxism.

We no longer have families, religion, even genders. In Sweden now they have invented a gender neutral term to address little boys and girls at kindergarten. This is a complete change from traditional Western values that have kept Europe safe from outside invasion for centuries. And this is now gone.

All this talk of multiculturalism and open borders sounds very nice, but in practice it has led to a progressive transformation of our societies, and as Sweden shows not for the better. Less freedoms, less safety, less cohesion; more crime, more fragmentation, more social problems. It really is a struggle of good versus evil, and we in the West can no longer distinguish between the two. I would even call it diabolical disorientation.

ET: So how long you think before the Christian cross is removed from your flag? And how does the Danish monarchy, which is sworn to protect Danish culture and religion, feel about all of this?

IT: No European politician will stand up for Christianity. Nobody. Expect from perhaps Hungarian Prime Minister, Victor Orbán.

There is this unholy alliance between the left and radical Islam. Many Europeans have such a disdain for their own traditions that they would prefer to see Christianity being eradicated even if it might cost their way of life and even personal freedoms in the end.

We have this bizarre situation where Western feminists support women having to wear a head cloth, along with foregoing many of the rights they should be able to enjoy in our countries. And these women often get penalized by their own communities when they try to assimilate into our society, while the feminists stay quiet. It is all very multicultural and good.

ET: You know Russia well as part of your work. Can you contrast what is happening there relative to the transformation taking place across much of Western Europe?

Believe it or not, we have swapped lanes. Now it is Russia who is adopting Christianity as the West gets rid of it by any means possible.

Christianity runs very deep in Russia: in their literature, in their arts, in their culture. When the Soviets brutally tried to suppress it, at the cost of countless lives, it survived underground. People still celebrated it in secrecy, performing baptisms and the like behind closed doors.

President Putin recently inaugurated an enormous statue of St. Vladimir, the patron saint of the Russian Orthodox Church, about 100 yards from the Kremlin walls. If you stand at a certain point across the street from the Kremlin, the cross that he bears is even taller than the star in the Red Square, so the symbolism is very potent.

In the West, as we discussed, we are going the other way. We can’t discard our values and heritage fast enough.

ET: There was a 2014 Russian movie, Leviathan, which alluded to this transformation. However it put Orthodox Christianity in a less positive light, essentially being used as an ideological argument to justify the power of the oligarchs in society. President Putin is certainly no saint. Isn’t this all just superficial?

IT: There are people in Russia who are also opposed to their own traditional values and who want a more Westernized Russia. I have not seen that movie so I can’t say if the director supports that view or not.

People need to go to Russia and see it for themselves. President Putin is only responding to what is happening there and he respects the Russian people’s faith in Orthodoxy.

This is one of the reasons why I believe the West hate the Russians so much. They cannot tolerate the thought of having a resurgent and powerful Christian Russia who openly rejects their Cultural Marxism. And accordingly they demonized it in much of our media and political circles.

ET: So, is Denmark on the brink? Indeed, is the rest of Europe on the brink?

IT: Yes, Denmark is on the brink. And Europe is on the brink. We completely lost our culture, our values and our moral compass. What used to be good is now evil and vice-versa.

You mentioned Denmark being the happiest country in the world but I am not sure that is true. We have high alcohol consumption and about half a million people on happy pills for a reason.

Channel 1, our main TV channel here, recently aired a documentary on three Danish girls who converted to Islam out of their own will, not because they got married or anything like that. They all had the same background, coming from broken homes, dealing with alcoholism and so forth – basically part of the legacy of the 1968 revolution we had across Europe. What these girls lacked was structure, and they found it in Islam because it regulates all aspects of your life: how you dress, what you eat, with whom you can socialize with, how to pray, how to interact as a wife and so on.

That is what the right-wing parties in Europe don’t understand. This is a spiritual battle. There is no political freedom without spiritual freedom. If you go around just forbidding things, like don’t wear the head cloth and so forth, it will not work. Our civilization will gradually disappear.

The only thing that can save Europe right now is a true spiritual, dare I say Christian, revival across the Continent. This played a significant role in the demise of communism in the Soviet Union and East Germany. The churches there provided hidden venues for people to congregate, express ideas and share their faith and hardships.

Since its inception Christianity was always about fighting evil with love, prayer and faith because these three are the key to freedom. And these are the values that the radical left and radical Islam do not tolerate, because of course both demand total obedience to the state and their conception of God, respectively.

ET: Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and your courage. You deserve to be in the cover of a magazine, not on some government blacklist. Wish you all the best.

IT: Thank you.

Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/20/17 08:28 AM

Fascinating interview, it had not occurred to me that one of the motives behind the current vilification of Russia is its resurgent Christianity.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/21/17 01:33 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Fascinating interview, it had not occurred to me that one of the motives behind the current vilification of Russia is its resurgent Christianity.

Oh yeah... Mystery Babylon's Cabalist(Kabbalist) who are really luciferian ... their biggest enemy is Christianity.

Did you notice what she said regarding the creation of Communism:

Quote:
"ET: You were only expressing views that are consistent with those of many conservatives on both sides of the Atlantic. There are certainly many people concerned about the future of Western societies. In many ways this evokes memories of the Soviet Union, and the great new society they tried to create, with the disastrous consequences we all know.

That is actually a very real and concerning comparison. After all, communism was a Western idea and it was imposed on Russia, they did not create it. And it did not die with the collapse of the Soviet Union. On the contrary, it is still very much alive and roaming around our continent. While it operates differently, the goals are not too dissimilar. The version we have spreading across the West is Cultural Marxism.
"

Russia did not create communism -- "it was a Western idea" that was imposed on them. She's not the first I've read this from. And it was not only Russia this imposition of communism was put on them... but also China.

And then they spread "cultural Marxism" across the west? And yet want us to believe we are a democratic society???? They do know how to confuse things--big time. It is not for nothing that the Lord named them Mystery[secret] Babylon[confusion].

The Cabal Elites has been manipulating the social "cattles"(goyim) inside Russia & China for over 100 years as they saw these two very large nations as a futur threat if not kept in check. The Russian and the Chinese leaders are no longer blinded with this manipulation... they now know they were played with and know the real truth about what happened in their countries history.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/21/17 05:51 PM

Communism and socialism are one and the same thing. They are portrayed as being separate but they are not. Karl Marx and Freidrich Engels are the founders of Marxism and Engels said that they wrote The Communist Manifesto simply to differentiate themselves from the socialists who preceded them. In other words, Marx and Engels always were socialists and Marxism is socialism. The word communist was used as a propoganda tool, nothing more.

To really understand this I would recommend the writings of a Nobel Prize winning economist, F.A. Hayek. His book The Road to Serfdom is very good. It does a very thorough job of exposing just how evil socialism is.

The very first editor of the "The Masses", a socialist magazine, Max Eastman, who later rejected socialism and all it stands for, spent two years in Russia and was given access to all kinds of internal documentation while he was there, said at the time that Stalinism, which is what the west was calling what was going on in Russia during the early 1920's, was socialism. It was that internal research and what he saw going on there that ultimately soured Eastman on socialism.

Eastman came out of Davidson University in the early 1900's a converted socialist and became very politically active. He supported all political moves the socialists were making and became an activist for several of the socialist agendas.

There is a free book written by Max Eastman available for download on the internet. It is titled, Reflections On The Failure of Socialism. I can't remember where I downloaded it from, but it may have been the Online Library of Liberty. That resource has thousands of books available dealing with the issues involved in liberty.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/23/17 02:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Gary K
Communism and socialism are one and the same thing. They are portrayed as being separate but they are not. Karl Marx and Freidrich Engels are the founders of Marxism and Engels said that they wrote The Communist Manifesto simply to differentiate themselves from the socialists who preceded them. In other words, Marx and Engels always were socialists and Marxism is socialism. The word communist was used as a propoganda tool, nothing more.

To really understand this I would recommend the writings of a Nobel Prize winning economist, F.A. Hayek. His book The Road to Serfdom is very good. It does a very thorough job of exposing just how evil socialism is.

The very first editor of the "The Masses", a socialist magazine, Max Eastman, who later rejected socialism and all it stands for, spent two years in Russia and was given access to all kinds of internal documentation while he was there, said at the time that Stalinism, which is what the west was calling what was going on in Russia during the early 1920's, was socialism. It was that internal research and what he saw going on there that ultimately soured Eastman on socialism.

Eastman came out of Davidson University in the early 1900's a converted socialist and became very politically active. He supported all political moves the socialists were making and became an activist for several of the socialist agendas.

There is a free book written by Max Eastman available for download on the internet. It is titled, Reflections On The Failure of Socialism. I can't remember where I downloaded it from, but it may have been the Online Library of Liberty. That resource has thousands of books available dealing with the issues involved in liberty.

Tx Gary for your view on this and the further reading info. I don't know enough to comment but I have heard before as you said that communism & socialism were the same. This is something else I need to be looking into as I need to understand more.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/23/17 03:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Fascinating interview, it had not occurred to me that one of the motives behind the current vilification of Russia is its resurgent Christianity.

Oh yeah... Mystery Babylon's Cabalist(Kabbalist) who are really luciferian ... their biggest enemy is Christianity.

Did you notice what she said regarding the creation of Communism:

Quote:
"ET: You were only expressing views that are consistent with those of many conservatives on both sides of the Atlantic. There are certainly many people concerned about the future of Western societies. In many ways this evokes memories of the Soviet Union, and the great new society they tried to create, with the disastrous consequences we all know.

That is actually a very real and concerning comparison. After all, communism was a Western idea and it was imposed on Russia, they did not create it. And it did not die with the collapse of the Soviet Union. On the contrary, it is still very much alive and roaming around our continent. While it operates differently, the goals are not too dissimilar. The version we have spreading across the West is Cultural Marxism.
"

Russia did not create communism -- "it was a Western idea" that was imposed on them. She's not the first I've read this from. And it was not only Russia this imposition of communism was put on them... but also China.

And then they spread "cultural Marxism" across the west? And yet want us to believe we are a democratic society???? They do know how to confuse things--big time. It is not for nothing that the Lord named them Mystery[secret] Babylon[confusion].
If
The Cabal Elites has been manipulating the social "cattles"(goyim) inside Russia & China for over 100 years as they saw these two very large nations as a futur threat if not kept in check. The Russian and the Chinese leaders are no longer blinded with this manipulation... they now know they were played with and know the real truth about what happened in their countries history.



This Cultural Marxism is incredibly prevalent in North America.
The communist/socialist ideal of government control of the means of production
is seen in the massive CIA infiltration of Hollywood and the mainstream media (which at the last count I read was controlled by just five corporations), as the the corporate owned government seeks total control of the production of cultural content.

A more blatant example of Cultural Marxism in media is the removal of the prohibition against the US government using propaganda against its own population.
An amendment tagged onto the National Defense Authorization Act of 2013 removed that prohibition.

https://www.rt.com/usa/smith-mundt-domestic-propaganda-121/



The situation in the education system is particularly worrisome.
The government is vying for complete control of young minds: techniques employed are generally aimed at the destruction of the family. In this way, respect for parents is eliminated and "moral" guidance is provided by the state through their entertainment/information media proxies, as well as the mandated curriculum and previously indoctrinated teachers/professors.

The destruction of gender is being employed more and more. Last night I attended a play at my stepson's university, where I had my first view of a gender-neutral public bathroom.
The facility that I used had two vending machines on the wall: one dispensed pads, the other tampons. Being male, I found this bizarre.

Here in Alberta, the words mother and father are being removed from clerical school paperwork. They are being replaced with, I believe the term is, "primary caregiver".
Without requiring parental notification, elementary students are being counselled in how to "transition" to a different sex.

A few weeks ago, at the university of Toronto, a teacher named Jordan Peterson was speaking at rally as a proponent of free speech, he objected to being forced to address "trans" students by the gender neutral pronouns "ze" and "zir". Unfortunately, Canada's new law, Bill C-16 will require just that. There was an open mike at the rally; however, few of the students took advantage of it. Instead, when Dr. Peterson attempted to speak, they played white noise at high volume on a large sound system and screamed that "free speech is hate speech"!

Here is an interesting Peterson quote from the BBC:
"I've studied authoritarianism for a very long time - for 40 years - and they're started by people's attempts to control the ideological and linguistic territory," he told the BBC"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37875695



Similar protests against various proponents of free speech have been seen recently at numerous university and high school speaking engagements throughout the US. These tend to include more pro Islamic sentiment, strongly supported, oddly, by the militant third wave feminist movement.

If the government can convince students and much of the general population, that parents are irrelevant and gender is not a physical fact, but a choice, that feminism should support brutal Islamic oppression of woman, and even that freedom of speech is evil, then can complete mind control via Cultural Marxism be far off?





Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/23/17 08:07 PM

To give a more historical perspective on this, the progressive/socialist in this country were huge supporters of the Nazis. They didn't back off on that until it became so clear that the Nazis were murdering Jews by the millions that it could no longer be denied. Today, you would think that the socialists have always hated the Nazis. Their propoganda victory in this area is almost complete as there are only a few sources left that show the truth.

Woodrow Wilson was a staunch socialist and someone who basically hated the constitution because it got in his way. He had thought police out on the streets whose job was just to listen to people talk and report those who differed from the Wilson administration's positions. There were massive deportments of people without any due process. The cops would simply round up the people in middle-of-the night raids and put them on ships sitting off the coasts just waiting for them. No court, no hearings, no nothing in any form of due process.

A really good book on what was going on in the early 1900's was written by Rose Wilder Lane. It's titled, Give Me Liberty. It is her story of how she was sucked into socialism and how she found her way out, and what was going on in the US during that time. The book was first published in the 1930's. I think, if I remember correctly, that at least parts of the book were also published in Life magazine in the 40s or 50s. It's been a while since I read the book and the corresponding info on it so my memory is hazy. The book is a free download, once again from mises.org. The following link is a link to mises.org from which you can download the book. It's a really good read. https://mises.org/library/give-me-liberty-0
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/24/17 03:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Gary K
To give a more historical perspective on this, the progressive/socialist in this country were huge supporters of the Nazis. They didn't back off on that until it became so clear that the Nazis were murdering Jews by the millions that it could no longer be denied. Today, you would think that the socialists have always hated the Nazis. Their propoganda victory in this area is almost complete as there are only a few sources left that show the truth.


Here we differ. Sorry. This narrative, that you are repeating above, is design to pull sympathy towards the Jews in Germany under Hitler while twice as much more citizens in Russia were starved, killed under Stalin regime.

Whether we want to equate Communist with Socialist is missing the greater point made by Christian Dane columnist, Iben Thranholm, who said "After all, communism was a Western idea and it was imposed on Russia, they did not create it.".

That is the point here....Stalin regime was created & manipulated by the "Western"[Elites](aka Mystery Babylon). And Babylon used Stalin to kill twice as more Russians than Jews were killed in Germany. So why all this talk about the Jews and we hear hardly anything about what happened to Russia.

Ever wondered what was Babylon's motive to AMPLIFIED the news about the Jews killed in Germany while they MUTED [as much as they could] the worser news about the killing in Russia?????

I don't buy that narrative. Sorry.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/24/17 05:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Gary K
To give a more historical perspective on this, the progressive/socialist in this country were huge supporters of the Nazis. They didn't back off on that until it became so clear that the Nazis were murdering Jews by the millions that it could no longer be denied. Today, you would think that the socialists have always hated the Nazis. Their propoganda victory in this area is almost complete as there are only a few sources left that show the truth.


Here we differ. Sorry. This narrative, that you are repeating above, is design to pull sympathy towards the Jews in Germany under Hitler while twice as much more citizens in Russia were starved, killed under Stalin regime.

Whether we want to equate Communist with Socialist is missing the greater point made by Christian Dane columnist, Iben Thranholm, who said "After all, communism was a Western idea and it was imposed on Russia, they did not create it.".

That is the point here....Stalin regime was created & manipulated by the "Western"[Elites](aka Mystery Babylon). And Babylon used Stalin to kill twice as more Russians than Jews were killed in Germany. So why all this talk about the Jews and we hear hardly anything about what happened to Russia.

Ever wondered what was Babylon's motive to AMPLIFIED the news about the Jews killed in Germany while they MUTED [as much as they could] the worser news about the killing in Russia?????

I don't buy that narrative. Sorry.


Are you all out of breath yet? Jumping to conclusions is hard work.


The same group that denied the Germans were killing the Jews denied Stalin was starving the Ukranians to death by the millions. Those in the media that reported the truth were run out of the business. Some could never find another job as a journalist even though they were excellent journalists. The media in the US and Britain locked them out. The truth finally came out but the liar that said nothing was happening in the Ukraine got a Pulitzer Prize for his make believe stories that were nothing more than Kremlin press releases. As of 60+ years later he still has his Pulitzer Prize and the New York Times has never retracted his stories fully.

The left-wing zealots are still in charge and still covering things up. A lot of this is in Hayek's book, The Road to Serfdom. As I said, it is a really good read. I think it is one of the most important books written in the 20th century as exposes so much of the evil of socialism.

Edit: Thomas Sowell's book on the intelligencia in the US also has a lot of info on this. As I said before, he exposes a lot of deceit.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/24/17 06:22 AM

One more addition: The book written by Rose Wilder Lane also talks about what happened in the Ukraine as she was there during the time Stalin was beginning to cut off all food to the Ukranians.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/25/17 08:56 AM

My comment : Canada just passed a motion to silence critics against Islam despite 71% Canadian voted in a poll against this. The government have some months to prove that there is "Islamophobia" in the country so then they can pass this motion into law.

While I do agree that this bill removes our freedom of Speech, however that's not the greatest of the evil of this. They(Mystery
Babylon who control our government) has been paving the way to destroy our country and our national Christian identity with an excessive in-flux of immigrants into our country... If nothing happens soon to stop this fast moving train...I'm afraid Canada will soon taste the terrible woes of Sweden (read "Is Denmark on the Brink" article above). I do hope it won't come to that.


Canada Passes 'Blasphemy' Bill To Silence Critics Of Islam
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-24/canada-passes-blasphemy-bill-silence-critics-islam
Tyler Durben
March 24, 2017
Quote:
Despite polls showing that 71% of Canadians would not have voted for the measure, Canada's Parliament, with the strong backing of Justin Trudeau's Liberal government, passed a motion this week 201 to 91 that critics say singles out Islam for special protection. Tabled by Muslim liberal MP Iqra Khalid, M-103 urges the federal government to “condemn Islamophobia” and to “develop a whole-of-government approach to reducing or eliminating systemic racism and religious discrimination including Islamophobia.” The term “Islamophobia” is nowhere defined in the motion.

A petition on CitizenGo asking MPs to stop the “restrictive ‘anti-blasphemy’” motion has been signed by 79,500 people.

Quote:
“This motion will encourage legislation that would criminalize speech deemed ‘islamophobic’ and lay the groundwork for imposing what is essentially a Sharia anti-blasphemy law on all of Canada,” the petition states.

"If that happens, criticism of Islam would constitute a speech crime in Canada,” it states, adding that this “kind of content-based, viewpoint-discriminatory censorship is unacceptable in a Western liberal democracy.”


As LifeSiteNews reports, while the motion does not change existing laws or create new ones, it empowers a committee to study the issue of “eliminating…Islamophobia” and the federal government to collect data on Islamic ‘hate crimes’ for further study.

Quote:
A Conservative alternative to the motion that condemned racism and discrimination against Muslims, Jews, Christians, and other religious groups — without including the word “Islamophobia” — was defeated by the Liberals in February. Liberals argued at that time that the Tories were simply trying to “water down” the very purpose of M-103, reported Huffington Post.

A number of Conservatives running for the the party's leadership have been outspoken about the problems they see in M-103.

Brad Trost said he could not support the motion because it “will only serve to strengthen extremist elements within the Muslim community itself that seek to preserve and promote their own form of hate and intolerance.” He added that any “serious plan to combat religious discrimination in Canada should include all faith groups, including Christians and Jews.”

Pierre Lemieux said that Canadians should be wary of the language in the motion.

“Do you have a valid concern about Islam? Do you disagree with Sharia Law? Uneasy about radical Islamic terrorism? The Liberals may very well classify you as Islamophobic,” he wrote in an email to supporters.

Lemieux, who called on supporters to pressure MPs to force a recorded vote on M-103, called it a “great day for accountability and for freedom of speech in Canada” when almost two dozen MPs stood up on Tuesday to demand such accountability.

Leadership contender Andrew Scheer also added his voice of opposition to the motion shortly before the vote, saying that it “could be interpreted as a step towards stifling free speech and legitimate criticism” of Islam.

“M-103 is not inclusive. It singles out just one faith. I believe that all religions deserve the same level of respect and protection,” he wrote in an email to supporters.

“I will be voting against it because I believe in Freedom of Speech,” he wrote.

Finally, we leave it to Rebel Media's Faith Goldy to react to this attack on Canadians' most precious freedom-- the freedom of speech
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/25/17 07:40 PM

Ive already seen the Faith Goldy video you posted, Elle.
There is some scary stuff happening in Canada, courtesy of
our federal imam, Justin Trudeau.

With the Feds planning to bring 300,000 more Muslim "refugees" into Canada
in 2017, and more to follow, we can expect more "multiculturalism" soon.
For instance a couple of months ago, at the swimming pool in West Edmonton Mall here in Alberta, SIX teenage girls were sexually assaulted in one day!
Prior to that two children were sexually assaulted at a hotel swimming pool in Lethbridge, Alberta! All eight assaults were carried out by Muslim "refugees".

Must have been a "sexual emergency" like the one claimed by the Muslim who
dragged a ten year old boy into a pool change room in Austria, before brutally raping him.
The little boy is out of hospital, but his mother says he's on medication, and still wakes up screaming.

Coming soon to Canadastan!

Hmm, I wonder if my words violate our new Islamophobia laws?
Facts often do.

Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/26/17 04:20 AM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Ive already seen the Faith Goldy video you posted, Elle.
There is some scary stuff happening in Canada, courtesy of
our federal imam, Justin Trudeau.

With the Feds planning to bring 300,000 more Muslim "refugees" into Canada
in 2017, and more to follow, we can expect more "multiculturalism" soon.
For instance a couple of months ago, at the swimming pool in West Edmonton Mall here in Alberta, SIX teenage girls were sexually assaulted in one day!
Prior to that two children were sexually assaulted at a hotel swimming pool in Lethbridge, Alberta! All eight assaults were carried out by Muslim "refugees".

Must have been a "sexual emergency" like the one claimed by the Muslim who
dragged a ten year old boy into a pool change room in Austria, before brutally raping him.
The little boy is out of hospital, but his mother says he's on medication, and still wakes up screaming.

Coming soon to Canadastan!

Hmm, I wonder if my words violate our new Islamophobia laws?
Facts often do.



Excellent post, Prodigal.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/26/17 04:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : Canada just passed a motion to silence critics against Islam despite 71% Canadian voted in a poll against this. The government have some months to prove that there is "Islamophobia" in the country so then they can pass this motion into law.

While I do agree that this bill removes our freedom of Speech, however that's not the greatest of the evil of this. They(Mystery
Babylon who control our government) has been paving the way to destroy our country and our national Christian identity with an excessive in-flux of immigrants into our country... If nothing happens soon to stop this fast moving train...I'm afraid Canada will soon taste the terrible woes of Sweden (read "Is Denmark on the Brink" article above). I do hope it won't come to that.


Canada Passes 'Blasphemy' Bill To Silence Critics Of Islam
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-24/canada-passes-blasphemy-bill-silence-critics-islam
Tyler Durben
March 24, 2017
Quote:
Despite polls showing that 71% of Canadians would not have voted for the measure, Canada's Parliament, with the strong backing of Justin Trudeau's Liberal government, passed a motion this week 201 to 91 that critics say singles out Islam for special protection. Tabled by Muslim liberal MP Iqra Khalid, M-103 urges the federal government to “condemn Islamophobia” and to “develop a whole-of-government approach to reducing or eliminating systemic racism and religious discrimination including Islamophobia.” The term “Islamophobia” is nowhere defined in the motion.

A petition on CitizenGo asking MPs to stop the “restrictive ‘anti-blasphemy’” motion has been signed by 79,500 people.

Quote:
“This motion will encourage legislation that would criminalize speech deemed ‘islamophobic’ and lay the groundwork for imposing what is essentially a Sharia anti-blasphemy law on all of Canada,” the petition states.

"If that happens, criticism of Islam would constitute a speech crime in Canada,” it states, adding that this “kind of content-based, viewpoint-discriminatory censorship is unacceptable in a Western liberal democracy.”


As LifeSiteNews reports, while the motion does not change existing laws or create new ones, it empowers a committee to study the issue of “eliminating…Islamophobia” and the federal government to collect data on Islamic ‘hate crimes’ for further study.

Quote:
A Conservative alternative to the motion that condemned racism and discrimination against Muslims, Jews, Christians, and other religious groups — without including the word “Islamophobia” — was defeated by the Liberals in February. Liberals argued at that time that the Tories were simply trying to “water down” the very purpose of M-103, reported Huffington Post.

A number of Conservatives running for the the party's leadership have been outspoken about the problems they see in M-103.

Brad Trost said he could not support the motion because it “will only serve to strengthen extremist elements within the Muslim community itself that seek to preserve and promote their own form of hate and intolerance.” He added that any “serious plan to combat religious discrimination in Canada should include all faith groups, including Christians and Jews.”

Pierre Lemieux said that Canadians should be wary of the language in the motion.

“Do you have a valid concern about Islam? Do you disagree with Sharia Law? Uneasy about radical Islamic terrorism? The Liberals may very well classify you as Islamophobic,” he wrote in an email to supporters.

Lemieux, who called on supporters to pressure MPs to force a recorded vote on M-103, called it a “great day for accountability and for freedom of speech in Canada” when almost two dozen MPs stood up on Tuesday to demand such accountability.

Leadership contender Andrew Scheer also added his voice of opposition to the motion shortly before the vote, saying that it “could be interpreted as a step towards stifling free speech and legitimate criticism” of Islam.

“M-103 is not inclusive. It singles out just one faith. I believe that all religions deserve the same level of respect and protection,” he wrote in an email to supporters.

“I will be voting against it because I believe in Freedom of Speech,” he wrote.

Finally, we leave it to Rebel Media's Faith Goldy to react to this attack on Canadians' most precious freedom-- the freedom of speech


We need a wall across our northern border now.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/26/17 11:40 AM

Originally Posted By: Alchemy


We need a wall across our northern border now.


alchemy, that made me laugh. I know you probably didn't mean it humorously, but it struck my funny bone after all the political nonsense that has gone on about closing our southern border.

Now we need to wall out the Canadians. [tongue-in-cheek] You just can't trust those Canucks....[/tongue-in-cheek] biglaugh
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/26/17 08:24 PM

Actually, with between 10 and 20 "refugees" illegally crossing north into Manitoba from Minnesota/Dakota daily (I don't know the stats for the rest of the country off hand), a wall between southern Canada and northern US sounds good!

Hey, we'll even pay for it, like the Mexicans! LOL
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/26/17 09:15 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Actually, with between 10 and 20 "refugees" illegally crossing north into Manitoba from Minnesota/Dakota daily (I don't know the stats for the rest of the country off hand), a wall between southern Canada and northern US sounds good!

Hey, we'll even pay for it, like the Mexicans! LOL


I like it, but Trump will love it.... ROFL
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/29/17 10:09 PM

My comment : Now that the Spring feasts has arrived, the events is going to increase in intensity until the fall feasts.

Regarding some recent news on the Economic reform :

1. Chinese Gold Miner Claims Discovery Of Largest Ever Gold Mine : (29 March)
Quote:
"it had found 382.58 tons of gold reserves and that the volume could reach more than 550 tons once exploration is completed in two years. According to local media reports, the Xiling gold seam in eastern China is more than 2,000 meters long and 67 meters wide; operating at full capacity, the mine would have a life of 40 years, according to the statement."


2. House Committee Passes Bill To "Audit The Fed": (28 March)


News on Trump vs. the Deep State[Mystery Babylon] :

1.Trump "Endorses" Jeanine Pirro's Call For Paul Ryan To Step Down: (Mar 26) Pretty good points and discernment.
Quote:
"Ryan needs to step down as Speaker of the House. The reason, he failed to deliver the votes on his healthcare bill, the one trumpeted to repeal and replace ObamaCare, the one that he had 7 years to work on; the one he hid under lock and key in the basement of Congress; the one that had to be pulled to prevent the embarrassment of not having enough votes to pass." Pirro said in her opening statement."


2.Obamacare 'Explosion' Could Come On May 22nd, Here's Why: (March 29) Trump Tweet :
Quote:
"ObamaCare will explode and we will all get together and piece together a great healthcare plan for THE PEOPLE. Do not worry!"



Misc :

1. Erdogan: Turkey may hold Brexit-style referendum on EU accession bid: (March 26)
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/31/17 05:11 AM

Elle,

Just what is it that you consider to be the "deep state" in the context of your references to Mystery/Babylon?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/31/17 09:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Gary K
Just what is it that you consider to be the "deep state" in the context of your references to Mystery/Babylon?

Listen to Nigel Farage speech at CPAC 2017 found on the top post of page 74. Pay attention what Nigel say at the mark of 11:35 "they[the people] are rejecting the idea of being govern by a bunch of un-elected old men in Brussels" (=EU).

To many, the Deep State is also known as the evil octopus that has the world bond in debt...that also control country's government and legal system, etc. For Christians, we know that the last Beast Empire is known as "Mystery Babylon". So, the Deep State and Mystery Babylon are nearly synonyms.

Here's a compilation from an international independent group speciali...of world events of who they perceive the Deep State is and what they have done in the past 300 years.

THE HUB OF WORLD EVIL: THE BRITISH DEEP STATE
02.03.2017
UK
Harun Yahya

----Some quotes I've extracted from the article ----

"Throughout history, evil has always been controlled from a single center. Those who propagate wars and massacres are acting under a chain of command and are following the plans originated from a single center. There is only one hub responsible for the great wars of the 20th century, the colonization, the massacres, the division of the Middle East and Africa and of economic crises.

..."It is impossible to get results in the fight against evil by merely focusing on the tentacles of the octopus or targeting the lower levels of the pyramid. We should put up an intellectual fight against the top who controls, manages, and commands the system and makes the final decision. Exposing this aforementioned hub should be at the core of this intellectual fight, because this power is only effective as long as it can confuse others and hide itself as it utilizes all the shameful advantages of secrecy.[Isn't this observation the Biblical description of Mystery[secret] Babylon[confusion]?]

..."While talking about the leader of evil in the world today, many names are mentioned: the deep states of the United States and Israel which are frequently mentioned, bodies such as the United Nations, NATO or the EU, organizations such as the CIA, MOSSAD or Gladio, secret societies like the Illuminati, Freemasonry, Skull and Bones, the Rosicrucians, and the Templars, and those who control the world economy such as financial barons in the Wall Street, oil trusts and multinational corporations. But these are all the gears of this system. They are the tentacles of the octopus, the lower levels of the pyramid.

..."The CIA and MOSSAD, who allegedly rule the world today, were established and trained by MI6 staff, the British intelligence."


Quote:
Throughout history, evil has always been controlled from a single center. Those who propagate wars and massacres are acting under a chain of command and are following the plans originated from a single center. There is only one hub responsible for the great wars of the 20th century, the colonization, the massacres, the division of the Middle East and Africa and of economic crises. Evil is like an octopus with lots of tentacles; our eyes tend to focus on the most active tentacle first. However, there is a brain which directs all these tentacles. The tentacles move with perfect coordination towards a single goal on the commands of the brain. The fact that tentacles seem to move independently is just an illusion - all these tentacles are under the control of a single brain. Moreover, evil is a pyramid-like hierarchical structure. No matter how wide a base it has or how many hundreds of layers it is made of, there is only one point at the top, and this point has absolute authority over what is underneath.

It is impossible to get results in the fight against evil by merely focusing on the tentacles of the octopus or targeting the lower levels of the pyramid. We should put up an intellectual fight against the top who controls, manages, and commands the system and makes the final decision. Exposing this aforementioned hub should be at the core of this intellectual fight, because this power is only effective as long as it can confuse others and hide itself as it utilizes all the shameful advantages of secrecy.

While talking about the leader of evil in the world today, many names are mentioned: the deep states of the United States and Israel which are frequently mentioned, bodies such as the United Nations, NATO or the EU, organizations such as the CIA, MOSSAD or Gladio, secret societies like the Illuminati, Freemasonry, Skull and Bones, the Rosicrucians, and the Templars, and those who control the world economy such as financial barons in the Wall Street, oil trusts and multinational corporations. But these are all the gears of this system. They are the tentacles of the octopus, the lower levels of the pyramid.

Quote:
The British Deep State has been, on the other hand, at the top of this hierarchy for centuries. The British deep state is also the center of colonialism and slavery. China, India, Indonesia and Malaysia remained under the British yoke for centuries. It was also the British deep state who introduced opium to China, disciplined India with hunger, and terrorized most of Southeast Asia with the East India Company. Nowadays, the genocide carried out in India by the Britain of that period would not be remembered. The Britain of that period, which left 330 million people face to face with famine 150 years ago, caused the death of more than a million Indians.

It was the British deep state which destroyed the Ottoman Empire and occupied Anatolia. The founding cadre of communism was assembled in Britain. Marx and Engels’ The Communist Manifesto (original title of the first edition: Das Manifest der Kommunistischen Partei) that constitutes the keystone of Communism was first published in Britain. All the foundational theoretical texts of communism, including Das Kapital, were written there. Founders of liberalism, Adam Smith and David Ricardo, were British. Charles Darwin, who founded the ideological basis of social Darwinism that unleashed such horrors upon the world in the 20th century, was British.

The policies that forced the Middle East into a bloodbath are the work of the British Deep State. Most of the Middle Eastern nations were founded by Britain. The borders of the Middle Eastern countries were drawn up at the Cairo meeting presided over by Winston Churchill. Most of the administrators of the countries in question have been chosen by the British deep state. The men of the British Deep State - T.E. Lawrence, Gertrude Bell, General Allenby, Orde Wingate, Hubert Young, Sir Percy Cox, Herbert Samuel, etc. - found, trained, and authorized these people.

The vast majority of the cadre who ruled the Middle East in the 20th century were trained in British schools such as the Sandhurst Military Academy, SOAS, School of Oriental Studies, Exeter, Cambridge or Oxford, and were brought in to serve the plans of the British Deep State. Indeed there are countless honest, sincere, and good people who were trained in those schools. However, it is also clear that these schools are used as training centers by the British deep state.

Most of the founders of today's radical terrorism were trained at the University of Al-Azhar. The Anglo-Saxon racist and evolutionist Lord Cromer, the Colonial Governor of Egypt, who made the Al-Azhar University what it was. Al-Azhar University, along with Muhammad Abduh, who was financed and supported by Lord Cromer, became the center of Social Darwinism in the Islamic world. These cadres are the ideologists of radical Islam. The system established by Lord Cromer came to influence the entire Islamic world within 30 years. This negative effect is the main cause of the present war environment.

The League of Nations was founded at the 1919 Paris conference controlled by Britain. The conference materialized the plans of Britain to a large extend. The British Deep State is also behind most of the UN resolutions and decisions. The chief architect of NATO, Gladio, and the EU, was British Prime Minister Churchill. The founders and the initial administrators were always British. These historical facts do not prove that these institutions or organizations act in a completely biased fashion. Undoubtedly, the UN provides numerous useful services, and every intelligence organization provides important services for its own country. However, this does not change the fact that the dark influence of the British deep state is present in the structuring of such institutions and organizations and in some of their decisions.

Quote:
The British Deep State was behind the Mosaddegh coup d’état in Iran, the coups of 1960, 1971, 1980, 1998 and 2016 in Turkey, and the entire coup-filled recent history of Egypt, Syria and Iraq.

The CIA and MOSSAD, who allegedly rule the world today, were established and trained by MI6 staff, the British intelligence.

The American Federal Reserve Bank was founded by the Bank of England, as well. The Rothschild family, one of the leaders of the world economy, is based in Britain. George Soros was educated in Britain.

Five Eyes, the world's largest surveillance system which was exposed by Edward Snowden, was founded in British-controlled Australia. In Five Eyes, US intelligence is joined by Canadian, New Zealand, British and Australian intelligence - all members of the British Commonwealth.

Karl Popper, the founding father of Soros' Open Society movement, is British. Richard Dawkins, who is the flag-bearer of atheism in the 21st century, is British. One important thing should immediately be noted here: the British people are loving, friendly, beautiful and decent people. Exposing the structure of the British deep state will save the British people from this affliction that has hurt them for centuries as well.

Britain has historically invaded the entire world at some point except for 22 countries. Let us take a look at this map of invasion: Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, the Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Beliz, Botsvana, British Indian Ocean Territory, British Virgin Islands, [censored]… Cayman Islands, Gibraltar Christmas Islands, Cocos Islands, Cook Islands.. Dominica, Falkland Islands, The Gambia, Wales, Gana, Grenada, Guyana, South Africa, India, Scotland, Jamaica, Cameroon, Canada, Kenya, Kiribati, Northern Ireland, Kingdom of Leshotho… That is not all, there is more: Republic of Malawi, Maldives, Malaysia, Malta, Mauritius, Coral Islands, Montserrat, Mozambique; Namibi, Nauru, Nigeria, Norfalk Island. That is not all, there is still more; Papau New Guinea, Pitcairn Islands, Ross Dependency, St.Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, St. Helena, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Singapour, Solomon Islands, Sri Lanka, Swaziland. There is still more; Tanzania, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tokelau, Turks and Caicos Islands, Tuvalu, Uganda, Vanuatu, New Zealand, Zambia. All these 52 countries are members of the British Commonwealth. Elections are held in some of these countries. Prime Ministers are being elected, but above all these elected administrators in some of these countries, there is still a Governor assigned by London. That means the UK is sending “GOVERNORS” to rule all these countries as if they are her counties. Elected governments make decisions, but put these decisions before the British Governor. The assigned Governor presents them to the Queen. The Queen says “Yes” or “No”.

The United States itself is a former British colony. The machinations of the British deep state led to the War of 1812, in which British forces briefly occupied Washington, D.C. and burned down the White House. The peace negotiations proceeded under British control after the First and the Second World Wars. It is also noteworthy that it is a veteran British intelligence agent who has been preparing counterfeit reports against President Trump.

Bernard Lewis, the mastermind of the Afghanistan and Iraq occupations, the Iran-Iraq War, the Iranian Revolution, the Red Crescent Project, the fragmentation of the Middle East, the Clash of Civilizations and the Age of Muslim Wars, is a British military intelligence officer. He taught at SOAS for 30 years. Lewis, who came to the United States on a spur-of-the-moment decision in 1974, has been the chief consultant for almost all US presidents regarding affairs in the Middle East since then. He is the educator of Kissinger, Brzezinski, Huntington and the recently famous neocons. He is the person who wrote US policies in the real sense.

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Today, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Nigeria, Syria and Yemen, where terrorism has claimed the most lives, have been under British occupation. Osama bin Laden was educated in Britain. The GIA, which covered Algeria in blood, assembled its cadres in Britain. The most important gunmen of ISIS were soldiers from Britain.


ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, Al-Shabaab, FETO, Hezbollah, the PKK, the PYD, Asala, the DHKP-C, the Red Brigades and similar terrorist organizations all serve as the foot soldiers of the British Deep State. This structure brings bloodshed and tears everywhere it goes. The list goes on. To summarize, the last 300 years of human history have been covered with blood by the British deep state. Hundreds of millions of innocent people, including British people, have died at the hands of these racist, colonial, self-seeking, brutal, merciless killers. The greatest genocides of history have been carried out by the British deep state. The British deep state has caused great suffering for the British people as well.

On July 15th 2016, when the masks slipped off and true colors were revealed with the armed insurrection in Turkey, England dispatched thousands of soldiers in the Royal Air Force base in Southwest coasts of Cyprus 100 miles away from Turkey, and sent Royal Navy war ships to the Mediterranean, deploying hundreds of jets, helicopters supposedly to help about 50,000 UK citizens move away from danger. Soldiers were free to shoot at ‘local insurgents’ who would attempt to interfere with this operation. All these preparations made by England seem to be something other than an attempt to rescue citizens, and more like a calculated plan.

After Turkey’s relations with Russia - the only country to offer support to Turkey during that period - improved swiftly, the British Deep State was deeply troubled to realize that the three countries joining forces for the resolution process for Syria would bring peace and unity to the region. Then the UK, who was waiting on standby - ready to invade - during the coup attempt, started to display a supposedly ‘friendly’ and ‘candid’ attitude towards Turkey. Of course, having good relations with the people of the UK is important for Turkey. Yet the plots of the British Deep State are never for the good of Turkey nor her own people and have never been so.

No leader, no nation, no state can stand alone in the face of the machinations of such a structure that has been organized on this scale and penetrated the capillaries of other countries. It is the alliance of the good that will stop these vicious plans. Last year, the foundation of a strong and unshakable alliance between Russia and Turkey has been laid on the initiative of President Putin and President Erdo&#287;an. The duty of everyone with a clean conscience who wants to save the world from the scourge of the British Deep State is to defend and support this alliance.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 03/31/17 05:20 PM

My comment : Pretty good report by Jim Willie.

Top Ten USDollar Risks

March 27, 2017

--- The opening summary statement -------

"The USDollar has never been in greater danger for losing its dominant position as global reserve currency and payment standard. Challenges to its supremacy are many and with each passing month, more threats are put in place. While the volumes of trade payment in Chinese RMB grow slowly, and the banking reserves in non-USD bonds grow slowly, the risk for the USDollar to be marginalized has increased significantly in the last two to three years. Basically speaking, a fiat currency run by a corrupt, thieving, and dishonorable hegemonic regime for the sole purpose of exploiting the rest of the world cannot stand the test of time, and will be dismantled. The community of nations gathers momentum and organization with producing an alternative...."

--- the top ten risks are -----

"1) USFed in QE inflation to monetize USGovt debt *** The central bank operating the USDollar frauds is actually undermining all global banking systems with the hyper monetary inflation. The community of nations cannot permit the rot of their banking reserves from the USFed policy blessed with collusion by the USGovt. The primary purchaser of USGovt debt is derivative machinery, which produces fake demand for the USTreasury Bonds.

2) Asian Infra-Structure Investment Bank (AIIB) threatens IMF/WB dominance *** The standard infiltration of global debt facilitation has been interrupted. No longer are nations compelled to compromise their financial structures by means of debt arranged in USDollar favor, which permit tentacles of control from Washington via the International Monetary Fund and World Bank. Both agency offices are seeing the lights turned off, and even some prosecution for fraud.

3) Cross-Border Inter-Bank Payment System (CIPS) *** The abuse by Washington in using SWIFT as a financial weapon will soon come to an end. The Eastern system CIPS is not only an alternative, but it is also quicker and executed with lower cost. The many sanctions by the USGovt have all backfired.

4) China & Russia energy trade in RMB payment *** As of 2014, in reaction to the Ukraine War and interruption of the Gazprom energy supply network, the two Asian superpowers have built a united front. Instead of damaging Russia, the Americans have enabled the two nations to forge a stronger financial bond, built upon the energy backbone. In doing so, they have essentially killed the Petro-Dollar on the eastern front.

5) Refusal to accept USTBills in trade payment *** The defiant movement grows. Several global corporations (not by any means the majority), have refused the USD in trade payment at ports. They are demanding payment in their native currency, or some other form like Gold. The movement will grow, especially as the energy trade takes the lead.

6) Ukraine War to obstruct Russian trade & supply *** The fascist NeoCons in Washington and Israel have created a Vietnam in Eastern Europe. Almost no obstruction of Russian natural gas will be realized, as alternative routes through Turkey are well along. The sanctions are an economic and political failure. Many EU member nations continue some trade, ignore the sanctions, seek bypass of the rules, and have set up subsidiaries inside Russia. The political repercussions for the fascist EU commissioners in Brussels is nasty and profound. These fascist princes will be put out.

7) Syrian War to obstruct Iranian energy supply *** The annexation of Syria by the United States failed. The links by Shiite factions to Iran are established. Iraq was a US disaster and site of war crimes and wealth pilferage. Syria will fall under Iranian control and with Russian connection to make the energy pipeline complete, but over time. Wars to obstruct economic ties will not succeed, as the mask has been ripped off. Besides, Israeli energy output will join with the Iranian energy output toward the Gazprom pipeline network in a grand irony.

8) Theft of Saudi USTBond Holdings in USDept Treasury ESFund *** The dirty backside to the Petro-Dollar accord struck in 1973 is the placement of a few odd $trillion of Saudi petro surplus reserves at the USGovt offices. It serves as the core to the Exchange Stabilization Fund, which controls many important financial markets. Maybe the Saudis agreed to contribute at least $3 trillion to the Washington scoundrels. Maybe the Saudis were told they would receive the credits later. Expect the $trillions to be stolen, while the Saudis are tossed under the bus. The 9/11 lawsuit bill appears to signal the betrayal.

9) Gulf Arab oil payments in RMB terms *** With each passing event where the Saudis pay visits to kiss the Chinese ring, the time draws near to the agreement to pay for Saudi oil output with RMB currency, bonds, or some form of the Gold Trade Note. That GTN instrument is gradually taking form on the Russian corridor, using the Shanghai outpost. The Saudi-Chinese link will find a way to build the RMB payment channels, centered on oil shipments.

10) USEconomic implosion with Credit Market *** The USGovt debt market is a massive asset bubble of several $trillion. The community of nations is abandoning it, dumping USTreasury Bonds at an alarming rate. They react both to lower oil revenues and to disgust over USGovt policy on trade, finance, and war. The USTBond market depends critically upon bond fraud and derivative controls. Neither can be sustained.


Quote:
The USDollar has never been in greater danger for losing its dominant position as global reserve currency and payment standard. Challenges to its supremacy are many and with each passing month, more threats are put in place. While the volumes of trade payment in Chinese RMB grow slowly, and the banking reserves in non-USD bonds grow slowly, the risk for the USDollar to be marginalized has increased significantly in the last two to three years. Basically speaking, a fiat currency run by a corrupt, thieving, and dishonorable hegemonic regime for the sole purpose of exploiting the rest of the world cannot stand the test of time, and will be dismantled. The community of nations gathers momentum and organization with producing an alternative. It has taken time, and will require more time. The scenario is indeed possible of a dual universe has been raised, whereby the West continues under the USD-based system, and the East emerges under a new RMB-based system. However, the Eastern alternative is step by step to emerge with a gold foundation. The USDollar cannot compete with Gold in any way except through continued fraud, intimidation, extortion, and open war. All these topics at high level and ground level are covered with analysis in the Hat Trick Letter.

The fall of the King Dollar Empire is near, as the Global Paradigm Shift proceeds without potential for interruption or much further delay. The galactic decay decline and demise is assured. It has been a brutal final chapter, marred by universal corruption and endless war. It has earned the Empire of Chaos label, for its many color revolutions which mask the brutal hegemony and theft of assets. The fall of the baseless USDollar occurs simultaneously with the rise of the solid Gold foundation. Below are the Top Ten risks to the USDollar, which will end the year 2017 in a significantly weaker position than it started.

1) USFed in QE inflation to monetize USGovt debt *** The central bank operating the USDollar frauds is actually undermining all global banking systems with the hyper monetary inflation. The community of nations cannot permit the rot of their banking reserves from the USFed policy blessed with collusion by the USGovt. The primary purchaser of USGovt debt is derivative machinery, which produces fake demand for the USTreasury Bonds.

2) Asian Infra-Structure Investment Bank (AIIB) threatens IMF/WB dominance *** The standard infiltration of global debt facilitation has been interrupted. No longer are nations compelled to compromise their financial structures by means of debt arranged in USDollar favor, which permit tentacles of control from Washington via the International Monetary Fund and World Bank. Both agency offices are seeing the lights turned off, and even some prosecution for fraud.

3) Cross-Border Inter-Bank Payment System (CIPS) *** The abuse by Washington in using SWIFT as a financial weapon will soon come to an end. The Eastern system CIPS is not only an alternative, but it is also quicker and executed with lower cost. The many sanctions by the USGovt have all backfired.

4) China & Russia energy trade in RMB payment *** As of 2014, in reaction to the Ukraine War and interruption of the Gazprom energy supply network, the two Asian superpowers have built a united front. Instead of damaging Russia, the Americans have enabled the two nations to forge a stronger financial bond, built upon the energy backbone. In doing so, they have essentially killed the Petro-Dollar on the eastern front.

5) Refusal to accept USTBills in trade payment *** The defiant movement grows. Several global corporations (not by any means the majority), have refused the USD in trade payment at ports. They are demanding payment in their native currency, or some other form like Gold. The movement will grow, especially as the energy trade takes the lead.

6) Ukraine War to obstruct Russian trade & supply *** The fascist NeoCons in Washington and Israel have created a Vietnam in Eastern Europe. Almost no obstruction of Russian natural gas will be realized, as alternative routes through Turkey are well along. The sanctions are an economic and political failure. Many EU member nations continue some trade, ignore the sanctions, seek bypass of the rules, and have set up subsidiaries inside Russia. The political repercussions for the fascist EU commissioners in Brussels is nasty and profound. These fascist princes will be put out.

7) Syrian War to obstruct Iranian energy supply *** The annexation of Syria by the United States failed. The links by Shiite factions to Iran are established. Iraq was a US disaster and site of war crimes and wealth pilferage. Syria will fall under Iranian control and with Russian connection to make the energy pipeline complete, but over time. Wars to obstruct economic ties will not succeed, as the mask has been ripped off. Besides, Israeli energy output will join with the Iranian energy output toward the Gazprom pipeline network in a grand irony.

8) Theft of Saudi USTBond Holdings in USDept Treasury ESFund *** The dirty backside to the Petro-Dollar accord struck in 1973 is the placement of a few odd $trillion of Saudi petro surplus reserves at the USGovt offices. It serves as the core to the Exchange Stabilization Fund, which controls many important financial markets. Maybe the Saudis agreed to contribute at least $3 trillion to the Washington scoundrels. Maybe the Saudis were told they would receive the credits later. Expect the $trillions to be stolen, while the Saudis are tossed under the bus. The 9/11 lawsuit bill appears to signal the betrayal.

9) Gulf Arab oil payments in RMB terms *** With each passing event where the Saudis pay visits to kiss the Chinese ring, the time draws near to the agreement to pay for Saudi oil output with RMB currency, bonds, or some form of the Gold Trade Note. That GTN instrument is gradually taking form on the Russian corridor, using the Shanghai outpost. The Saudi-Chinese link will find a way to build the RMB payment channels, centered on oil shipments.

10) USEconomic implosion with Credit Market *** The USGovt debt market is a massive asset bubble of several $trillion. The community of nations is abandoning it, dumping USTreasury Bonds at an alarming rate. They react both to lower oil revenues and to disgust over USGovt policy on trade, finance, and war. The USTBond market depends critically upon bond fraud and derivative controls. Neither can be sustained.

ILLICIT RISKS
Many are the illicit and precarious risks which surround the unfolding platforms that support the USDollar. The bank derivative machinery cannot be exposed for its fake bond demand, which has been the basis of all supposed bond rallies since 2011. The narcotics money laundering cannot be exposed for its stalwart support to sustain the US and British banking system, whose cutoff would bring huge consequences. The gigantic hidden budgets cannot be exposed for their grand diversion of funds toward secret space programs, secret weapon systems, and secret underground escape facilities. The enormous Chinese and Russian gold reserves cannot be exposed for their potential new foundation for a global monetary system. The foreign powers dumping of USGovt debt in greatly amplified volume cannot be exposed for its immediate threat to the USD foundation. The genocide programs (chemtrails for air, fracking for water, GMO for foods, viruses in vaccines) cannot be exposed for the widespread motive to murder the global population, for which the United States will be labeled the rogue nation, isolated, and possibly quarantined.

The loss of the pipelines for narcotics, drugs, human organs, and sex trafficking would hinder the flows that keep the kitty full of cash. The black budget CIA and Pentagon programs demands would spiral out of control if and when the drug trade pipeline is shut down. Some early steps have been completed in this direction. Secret breakaway society space program budgets might also go out of control for the same reasons. Ending other unspecified programs present further risks, which are largely off-book fronts that cover for huge payoffs necessary at high levels to maintain the economy. China and other huge debt holders can cause a rapid default whenever they want to, as they can make final the default by introducing gold-backed systems with a legitimacy not seen since 1971. They are actually waiting for the US-dominated system to fail on its own weight and decayed structures, so as to avoid blame and a possible nuclear war. No plausible plans exist by global banking institutions to evolve into the future using USD-based platforms in sufficient amounts to prevent their demise. Exposure of the real Fascist United States since WWII as a pariah nation might explain the true reason the rest of the world has not progressed naturally since then. Students must research Operation Paperclip, which after 1945 permitted a significant flow of several hundred Nazis into influential positions within the USGovt, US banks, US businesses, and US programs like NASA. They are the core NeoCons today.

The risk of eventual implosion rises each month, from an unsustainable system deeply insolvent. Sanctions have strengthened the Eastern resistance in trade, finance, politics, and security. America is much weaker and more vulnerable than most experts realize. The only one who seems to understand that is Trump, as the warmongering NeoCons of both red and blue vests seem incapable of comprehending the trend changes and wind shifts. Many former US allies will be thinned out and brought down, like the Gulf monarchies. Oman will remain standing due to its relationship with Persia and China. The world needs railroads, ports, industrial plants, sustainable food production, proper health care, effective education, functioning courts, and well-mannered police who protect and serve and not kill rob or harass citizens. These concepts are the basis of capital formation and civilized system, for which the West has lost touch. The Western industrial model has failed due to perversion and corruption. The corrective process will be happening over the next 10 years, with profound reforms and new remedies put in place. What comes will be commodity backed money with precious metals at the core of the new system. Payment systems will be more like a utility without the participation of corrupt banks demanding ferryman fees with occasional obstructions to perceived enemy camps. The Keynesian system is coming to a violent end, along with its sick Kabuki Theater. Humanity's path will be redefined.

NEW SCHEISS DOLLAR & GOLD TRADE STANDARD
In time, expect an eventual refusal by Eastern producing nations to accept USTreasury Bills in payment for trade. The United States Govt cannot continue on numerous glaring fronts of gross negligence and major violations. These violations have prompted the BRICS & Alliance nations to hasten their development of diverse non-USD platforms toward the goal of displacing the USDollar while at the same time to take steps toward the return of the Gold Standard.

The New Scheiss Dollar will arrive in order to assure continued import supply to the USEconomy. It will be given a 30% devaluation out of the gate, then many more devaluations of similar variety. The New Dollar will fail all foreign and Eastern scrutiny. The USGovt will be forced to react to USTBill rejection at the ports. The US must accommodate with the New Scheiss Dollar in order to assure import supply, and to alleviate the many stalemates to come. The United States finds itself on the slippery slope that leads to the Third World, a Jackass forecast that has been presented since Lehman fell (better described as killed by JPM and GSax). The only apparent alternative is for the United States Govt to lease a large amount of gold bullion (like 10,000 tons) from China in order to properly launch a gold-backed currency. The annual trade deficit would immediately render the entire batch of gold at risk of forfeit. Any such lease would open the gates for a generation of commercial colonization, but actual progress in returning capitalism to the United States. The cost would be supply shortages to the USEconomy, a result of enormous export increases to China. Even if the USGovt can secure such a large hoard of gold, like from Bush Family and Rubin Clan seizures of stolen Fort Knox gold reserves, the United States will be vulnerable from a $550 billion annual trade deficit. Its settlement after one year would exhaust all 10,000 tons, since at $1300/oz, such gold tonnage would be worth $420 billion. The United States is truly trapped in an economic insolvency situation, with inadequate industry and a huge unresolved trade deficit.

Failure to produce a legitimate bonafide gold-backed currency, together with an adequate industrial base, would mean the United States will be confronted with a real big nasty currency crisis. Any new currency, even with gold backing, would be subjected to a series of devaluations due to the enormous trade deficit. The result would be heavy powerful painful price inflation from the import front. The effect would be to reverse a generation of exported inflation by the United States. The entire USEconomy would go into a downward spiral with higher prices, supply shortages, and social disorder. However, the rising prices would come from the currency crisis, and not so much from the hyper monetary inflation. That flood of $trillions has been effectively firewalled off. During the crisis that comes, the gold price will find its true proper value between $5000 and $10,000 per ounce. Then later, it goes higher, as it seeks equilibrium in a new world where gold serves as the global arbiter in trade and banking and currencies.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/02/17 05:45 AM

My comment : Excellent news. This is a good visible sign of the Shift away from the Petro dollar system to a turn towards a MultiPolar gold-backed currencies.

There talking about issuing new currencies, revaluating everything, who knows how it will all unfold. Probably one thing at a time, but I wouldn't be surprise that it will be at a steady fast pace. Hopefully a Jubilee type will come. Time will tell.

Anyway this is very good news.

Moscow And Beijing Join Forces To Bypass US Dollar In Global Markets, Shift To Gold Trade

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy...overseas-office

March 18, 2017

by Wendy Wu

Quote:
Russia’s central bank opened its first overseas office in Beijing on Thursday, marking a small step forward in forging a Beijing-Moscow alliance to bypass the US dollar in the global monetary system.

It was part of agreements made between the two neighbours to seek stronger economic ties since the West brought in sanctions against Russia over the Ukraine crisis and the oil-price slump hit the Russian economy.

The opening of a Beijing representative office by the Central Bank of Russia was a “very timely” move to aid specific cooperation, including bond issuance, anti-money laundering and anti-terrorism measures between China and Russia, said Dmitry Skobelkin, deputy governor of the Central Bank of Russia.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said on Wednesday that Sino-Russian trade ties were affected by falling oil prices but that he saw great potential in cooperation.

Russia is preparing to issue its first federal loan bonds denominated in Chinese yuan.

Officials from China’s central bank and financial regulatory commissions attended the ceremony at the Russian embassy in Beijing, which was set up in October 1959 in the heyday of Sino-Soviet relations.

Financial regulators from the two countries agreed last May to issue home currency-denominated bonds in each other’s markets, a move that was widely viewed as intended to “dethrone” the US dollar.

The People’s Bank of China, appointed the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China as the yuan clearing bank in Moscow in September, laying the foundations for the issue of yuan bonds in the Russian market.

Yi Gang, a deputy governor at the People’s Bank of China, said financial cooperation between the two countries had reached a new high, following an increase in trade deals.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said on Wednesday that Sino-Russian trade ties were affected by falling oil prices but that he saw great potential in cooperation.

Vladimir Shapovalov, a senior official at the Russian central bank, said the two central banks were drafting a memorandum of understanding to solve technical issues around China’s gold imports from Russia, and that details would be released soon.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/03/17 04:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Gary K
Just what is it that you consider to be the "deep state" in the context of your references to Mystery/Babylon?

Listen to Nigel Farage speech at CPAC 2017 found on the top post of page 74. Pay attention what Nigel say at the mark of 11:35 "they[the people] are rejecting the idea of being govern by a bunch of un-elected old men in Brussels" (=EU).

To many, the Deep State is also known as the evil octopus that has the world bond in debt...that also control country's government and legal system, etc. For Christians, we know that the last Beast Empire is known as "Mystery Babylon". So, the Deep State and Mystery Babylon are nearly synonyms.

Here's a compilation from an international independent group speciali...of world events of who they perceive the Deep State is and what they have done in the past 300 years.

THE HUB OF WORLD EVIL: THE BRITISH DEEP STATE
02.03.2017
UK
Harun Yahya

----Some quotes I've extracted from the article ----

"Throughout history, evil has always been controlled from a single center. Those who propagate wars and massacres are acting under a chain of command and are following the plans originated from a single center. There is only one hub responsible for the great wars of the 20th century, the colonization, the massacres, the division of the Middle East and Africa and of economic crises.

..."It is impossible to get results in the fight against evil by merely focusing on the tentacles of the octopus or targeting the lower levels of the pyramid. We should put up an intellectual fight against the top who controls, manages, and commands the system and makes the final decision. Exposing this aforementioned hub should be at the core of this intellectual fight, because this power is only effective as long as it can confuse others and hide itself as it utilizes all the shameful advantages of secrecy.[Isn't this observation the Biblical description of Mystery[secret] Babylon[confusion]?]

..."While talking about the leader of evil in the world today, many names are mentioned: the deep states of the United States and Israel which are frequently mentioned, bodies such as the United Nations, NATO or the EU, organizations such as the CIA, MOSSAD or Gladio, secret societies like the Illuminati, Freemasonry, Skull and Bones, the Rosicrucians, and the Templars, and those who control the world economy such as financial barons in the Wall Street, oil trusts and multinational corporations. But these are all the gears of this system. They are the tentacles of the octopus, the lower levels of the pyramid.

..."The CIA and MOSSAD, who allegedly rule the world today, were established and trained by MI6 staff, the British intelligence."


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Throughout history, evil has always been controlled from a single center. Those who propagate wars and massacres are acting under a chain of command and are following the plans originated from a single center. There is only one hub responsible for the great wars of the 20th century, the colonization, the massacres, the division of the Middle East and Africa and of economic crises. Evil is like an octopus with lots of tentacles; our eyes tend to focus on the most active tentacle first. However, there is a brain which directs all these tentacles. The tentacles move with perfect coordination towards a single goal on the commands of the brain. The fact that tentacles seem to move independently is just an illusion - all these tentacles are under the control of a single brain. Moreover, evil is a pyramid-like hierarchical structure. No matter how wide a base it has or how many hundreds of layers it is made of, there is only one point at the top, and this point has absolute authority over what is underneath.

It is impossible to get results in the fight against evil by merely focusing on the tentacles of the octopus or targeting the lower levels of the pyramid. We should put up an intellectual fight against the top who controls, manages, and commands the system and makes the final decision. Exposing this aforementioned hub should be at the core of this intellectual fight, because this power is only effective as long as it can confuse others and hide itself as it utilizes all the shameful advantages of secrecy.

While talking about the leader of evil in the world today, many names are mentioned: the deep states of the United States and Israel which are frequently mentioned, bodies such as the United Nations, NATO or the EU, organizations such as the CIA, MOSSAD or Gladio, secret societies like the Illuminati, Freemasonry, Skull and Bones, the Rosicrucians, and the Templars, and those who control the world economy such as financial barons in the Wall Street, oil trusts and multinational corporations. But these are all the gears of this system. They are the tentacles of the octopus, the lower levels of the pyramid.

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The British Deep State has been, on the other hand, at the top of this hierarchy for centuries. The British deep state is also the center of colonialism and slavery. China, India, Indonesia and Malaysia remained under the British yoke for centuries. It was also the British deep state who introduced opium to China, disciplined India with hunger, and terrorized most of Southeast Asia with the East India Company. Nowadays, the genocide carried out in India by the Britain of that period would not be remembered. The Britain of that period, which left 330 million people face to face with famine 150 years ago, caused the death of more than a million Indians.

It was the British deep state which destroyed the Ottoman Empire and occupied Anatolia. The founding cadre of communism was assembled in Britain. Marx and Engels’ The Communist Manifesto (original title of the first edition: Das Manifest der Kommunistischen Partei) that constitutes the keystone of Communism was first published in Britain. All the foundational theoretical texts of communism, including Das Kapital, were written there. Founders of liberalism, Adam Smith and David Ricardo, were British. Charles Darwin, who founded the ideological basis of social Darwinism that unleashed such horrors upon the world in the 20th century, was British.

The policies that forced the Middle East into a bloodbath are the work of the British Deep State. Most of the Middle Eastern nations were founded by Britain. The borders of the Middle Eastern countries were drawn up at the Cairo meeting presided over by Winston Churchill. Most of the administrators of the countries in question have been chosen by the British deep state. The men of the British Deep State - T.E. Lawrence, Gertrude Bell, General Allenby, Orde Wingate, Hubert Young, Sir Percy Cox, Herbert Samuel, etc. - found, trained, and authorized these people.

The vast majority of the cadre who ruled the Middle East in the 20th century were trained in British schools such as the Sandhurst Military Academy, SOAS, School of Oriental Studies, Exeter, Cambridge or Oxford, and were brought in to serve the plans of the British Deep State. Indeed there are countless honest, sincere, and good people who were trained in those schools. However, it is also clear that these schools are used as training centers by the British deep state.

Most of the founders of today's radical terrorism were trained at the University of Al-Azhar. The Anglo-Saxon racist and evolutionist Lord Cromer, the Colonial Governor of Egypt, who made the Al-Azhar University what it was. Al-Azhar University, along with Muhammad Abduh, who was financed and supported by Lord Cromer, became the center of Social Darwinism in the Islamic world. These cadres are the ideologists of radical Islam. The system established by Lord Cromer came to influence the entire Islamic world within 30 years. This negative effect is the main cause of the present war environment.

The League of Nations was founded at the 1919 Paris conference controlled by Britain. The conference materialized the plans of Britain to a large extend. The British Deep State is also behind most of the UN resolutions and decisions. The chief architect of NATO, Gladio, and the EU, was British Prime Minister Churchill. The founders and the initial administrators were always British. These historical facts do not prove that these institutions or organizations act in a completely biased fashion. Undoubtedly, the UN provides numerous useful services, and every intelligence organization provides important services for its own country. However, this does not change the fact that the dark influence of the British deep state is present in the structuring of such institutions and organizations and in some of their decisions.

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The British Deep State was behind the Mosaddegh coup d’état in Iran, the coups of 1960, 1971, 1980, 1998 and 2016 in Turkey, and the entire coup-filled recent history of Egypt, Syria and Iraq.

The CIA and MOSSAD, who allegedly rule the world today, were established and trained by MI6 staff, the British intelligence.

The American Federal Reserve Bank was founded by the Bank of England, as well. The Rothschild family, one of the leaders of the world economy, is based in Britain. George Soros was educated in Britain.

Five Eyes, the world's largest surveillance system which was exposed by Edward Snowden, was founded in British-controlled Australia. In Five Eyes, US intelligence is joined by Canadian, New Zealand, British and Australian intelligence - all members of the British Commonwealth.

Karl Popper, the founding father of Soros' Open Society movement, is British. Richard Dawkins, who is the flag-bearer of atheism in the 21st century, is British. One important thing should immediately be noted here: the British people are loving, friendly, beautiful and decent people. Exposing the structure of the British deep state will save the British people from this affliction that has hurt them for centuries as well.

Britain has historically invaded the entire world at some point except for 22 countries. Let us take a look at this map of invasion: Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, the Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Beliz, Botsvana, British Indian Ocean Territory, British Virgin Islands, [censored]… Cayman Islands, Gibraltar Christmas Islands, Cocos Islands, Cook Islands.. Dominica, Falkland Islands, The Gambia, Wales, Gana, Grenada, Guyana, South Africa, India, Scotland, Jamaica, Cameroon, Canada, Kenya, Kiribati, Northern Ireland, Kingdom of Leshotho… That is not all, there is more: Republic of Malawi, Maldives, Malaysia, Malta, Mauritius, Coral Islands, Montserrat, Mozambique; Namibi, Nauru, Nigeria, Norfalk Island. That is not all, there is still more; Papau New Guinea, Pitcairn Islands, Ross Dependency, St.Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, St. Helena, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Singapour, Solomon Islands, Sri Lanka, Swaziland. There is still more; Tanzania, Tonga, Trinidad and Tobago, Tokelau, Turks and Caicos Islands, Tuvalu, Uganda, Vanuatu, New Zealand, Zambia. All these 52 countries are members of the British Commonwealth. Elections are held in some of these countries. Prime Ministers are being elected, but above all these elected administrators in some of these countries, there is still a Governor assigned by London. That means the UK is sending “GOVERNORS” to rule all these countries as if they are her counties. Elected governments make decisions, but put these decisions before the British Governor. The assigned Governor presents them to the Queen. The Queen says “Yes” or “No”.

The United States itself is a former British colony. The machinations of the British deep state led to the War of 1812, in which British forces briefly occupied Washington, D.C. and burned down the White House. The peace negotiations proceeded under British control after the First and the Second World Wars. It is also noteworthy that it is a veteran British intelligence agent who has been preparing counterfeit reports against President Trump.

Bernard Lewis, the mastermind of the Afghanistan and Iraq occupations, the Iran-Iraq War, the Iranian Revolution, the Red Crescent Project, the fragmentation of the Middle East, the Clash of Civilizations and the Age of Muslim Wars, is a British military intelligence officer. He taught at SOAS for 30 years. Lewis, who came to the United States on a spur-of-the-moment decision in 1974, has been the chief consultant for almost all US presidents regarding affairs in the Middle East since then. He is the educator of Kissinger, Brzezinski, Huntington and the recently famous neocons. He is the person who wrote US policies in the real sense.

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Today, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Nigeria, Syria and Yemen, where terrorism has claimed the most lives, have been under British occupation. Osama bin Laden was educated in Britain. The GIA, which covered Algeria in blood, assembled its cadres in Britain. The most important gunmen of ISIS were soldiers from Britain.


ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram, Al-Shabaab, FETO, Hezbollah, the PKK, the PYD, Asala, the DHKP-C, the Red Brigades and similar terrorist organizations all serve as the foot soldiers of the British Deep State. This structure brings bloodshed and tears everywhere it goes. The list goes on. To summarize, the last 300 years of human history have been covered with blood by the British deep state. Hundreds of millions of innocent people, including British people, have died at the hands of these racist, colonial, self-seeking, brutal, merciless killers. The greatest genocides of history have been carried out by the British deep state. The British deep state has caused great suffering for the British people as well.

On July 15th 2016, when the masks slipped off and true colors were revealed with the armed insurrection in Turkey, England dispatched thousands of soldiers in the Royal Air Force base in Southwest coasts of Cyprus 100 miles away from Turkey, and sent Royal Navy war ships to the Mediterranean, deploying hundreds of jets, helicopters supposedly to help about 50,000 UK citizens move away from danger. Soldiers were free to shoot at ‘local insurgents’ who would attempt to interfere with this operation. All these preparations made by England seem to be something other than an attempt to rescue citizens, and more like a calculated plan.

After Turkey’s relations with Russia - the only country to offer support to Turkey during that period - improved swiftly, the British Deep State was deeply troubled to realize that the three countries joining forces for the resolution process for Syria would bring peace and unity to the region. Then the UK, who was waiting on standby - ready to invade - during the coup attempt, started to display a supposedly ‘friendly’ and ‘candid’ attitude towards Turkey. Of course, having good relations with the people of the UK is important for Turkey. Yet the plots of the British Deep State are never for the good of Turkey nor her own people and have never been so.

No leader, no nation, no state can stand alone in the face of the machinations of such a structure that has been organized on this scale and penetrated the capillaries of other countries. It is the alliance of the good that will stop these vicious plans. Last year, the foundation of a strong and unshakable alliance between Russia and Turkey has been laid on the initiative of President Putin and President Erdo&#287;an. The duty of everyone with a clean conscience who wants to save the world from the scourge of the British Deep State is to defend and support this alliance.


Thanks, Elle, for your description of what you think the Deep State is.

To me it is the unelected bureaucrats who are fully committed to an ideology. They remain no matter who is in charge of Congress or what party is in control of the executive branch. They work with those they agree with in Congress and the executive branch and work against those in the same institutions that they disagree with. For them the ideology is supreme.

If you look at the emergent church movement, what it stands for, what agendas it pushes, and the socialist political movements world wide you will see they pretty much align. They even use the same rhetoric against those they disagree with. And we have a socialist pope in the Vatican.

Just out of curiosity, have you read David Yallop's book, In God's Name? He is an investigative journalist who was asked by insiders in the Vatican to research and publish a book on the death of the first John Paul. It is a fascinating read. He exposes a lot of corruption plus ties to the American mafia, and to billions of dollars of financial fraud connected to men within the Vatican itself, and the bank the Vatican owns. It was first published in 1984 and within the last couple of years Yallop has come out with an updated version that includes continuing research he has done since 1984.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/03/17 04:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : Excellent news. This is a good visible sign of the Shift away from the Petro dollar system to a turn towards a MultiPolar gold-backed currencies.

There talking about issuing new currencies, revaluating everything, who knows how it will all unfold. Probably one thing at a time, but I wouldn't be surprise that it will be at a steady fast pace. Hopefully a Jubilee type will come. Time will tell.

Anyway this is very good news.

Moscow And Beijing Join Forces To Bypass US Dollar In Global Markets, Shift To Gold Trade

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy...overseas-office

March 18, 2017

by Wendy Wu

Quote:
Russia’s central bank opened its first overseas office in Beijing on Thursday, marking a small step forward in forging a Beijing-Moscow alliance to bypass the US dollar in the global monetary system.

It was part of agreements made between the two neighbours to seek stronger economic ties since the West brought in sanctions against Russia over the Ukraine crisis and the oil-price slump hit the Russian economy.

The opening of a Beijing representative office by the Central Bank of Russia was a “very timely” move to aid specific cooperation, including bond issuance, anti-money laundering and anti-terrorism measures between China and Russia, said Dmitry Skobelkin, deputy governor of the Central Bank of Russia.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said on Wednesday that Sino-Russian trade ties were affected by falling oil prices but that he saw great potential in cooperation.

Russia is preparing to issue its first federal loan bonds denominated in Chinese yuan.

Officials from China’s central bank and financial regulatory commissions attended the ceremony at the Russian embassy in Beijing, which was set up in October 1959 in the heyday of Sino-Soviet relations.

Financial regulators from the two countries agreed last May to issue home currency-denominated bonds in each other’s markets, a move that was widely viewed as intended to “dethrone” the US dollar.

The People’s Bank of China, appointed the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China as the yuan clearing bank in Moscow in September, laying the foundations for the issue of yuan bonds in the Russian market.

Yi Gang, a deputy governor at the People’s Bank of China, said financial cooperation between the two countries had reached a new high, following an increase in trade deals.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said on Wednesday that Sino-Russian trade ties were affected by falling oil prices but that he saw great potential in cooperation.

Vladimir Shapovalov, a senior official at the Russian central bank, said the two central banks were drafting a memorandum of understanding to solve technical issues around China’s gold imports from Russia, and that details would be released soon.


If, what I bolded in your post really comes true, there will be a depression in the US that will make the 1930s depression look mild, and if our economy contracts that much so will the economies of the rest of the world. It will end up in a world-wide depression that will bankrupt the entire world.

The reason for this is that currently the entire world holds dollars to do their international business with, and if that changes, look out. Everyone world wide will want to dump their dollars all at the same time, and the dollar will basically go to being worthless overnight. When that happens, inflation will hit so us so hard that it will be like what happened in the Wiemar Republic after WWI. It will take a wheelbarrow load of greenbacks just to buy a loaf of bread.
Posted By: Alchemy

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/03/17 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Gary K
Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : Excellent news. This is a good visible sign of the Shift away from the Petro dollar system to a turn towards a MultiPolar gold-backed currencies.

There talking about issuing new currencies, revaluating everything, who knows how it will all unfold. Probably one thing at a time, but I wouldn't be surprise that it will be at a steady fast pace. Hopefully a Jubilee type will come. Time will tell.

Anyway this is very good news.

Moscow And Beijing Join Forces To Bypass US Dollar In Global Markets, Shift To Gold Trade

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy...overseas-office

March 18, 2017

by Wendy Wu

Quote:
Russia’s central bank opened its first overseas office in Beijing on Thursday, marking a small step forward in forging a Beijing-Moscow alliance to bypass the US dollar in the global monetary system.

It was part of agreements made between the two neighbours to seek stronger economic ties since the West brought in sanctions against Russia over the Ukraine crisis and the oil-price slump hit the Russian economy.

The opening of a Beijing representative office by the Central Bank of Russia was a “very timely” move to aid specific cooperation, including bond issuance, anti-money laundering and anti-terrorism measures between China and Russia, said Dmitry Skobelkin, deputy governor of the Central Bank of Russia.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said on Wednesday that Sino-Russian trade ties were affected by falling oil prices but that he saw great potential in cooperation.

Russia is preparing to issue its first federal loan bonds denominated in Chinese yuan.

Officials from China’s central bank and financial regulatory commissions attended the ceremony at the Russian embassy in Beijing, which was set up in October 1959 in the heyday of Sino-Soviet relations.

Financial regulators from the two countries agreed last May to issue home currency-denominated bonds in each other’s markets, a move that was widely viewed as intended to “dethrone” the US dollar.

The People’s Bank of China, appointed the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China as the yuan clearing bank in Moscow in September, laying the foundations for the issue of yuan bonds in the Russian market.

Yi Gang, a deputy governor at the People’s Bank of China, said financial cooperation between the two countries had reached a new high, following an increase in trade deals.

Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said on Wednesday that Sino-Russian trade ties were affected by falling oil prices but that he saw great potential in cooperation.

Vladimir Shapovalov, a senior official at the Russian central bank, said the two central banks were drafting a memorandum of understanding to solve technical issues around China’s gold imports from Russia, and that details would be released soon.


If, what I bolded in your post really comes true, there will be a depression in the US that will make the 1930s depression look mild, and if our economy contracts that much so will the economies of the rest of the world. It will end up in a world-wide depression that will bankrupt the entire world.

The reason for this is that currently the entire world holds dollars to do their international business with, and if that changes, look out. Everyone world wide will want to dump their dollars all at the same time, and the dollar will basically go to being worthless overnight. When that happens, inflation will hit so us so hard that it will be like what happened in the Wiemar Republic after WWI. It will take a wheelbarrow load of greenbacks just to buy a loaf of bread.


Personally, I believe it's a terrible ordeal to trade currencies the way it's done today. But, globalism forces these risks and dangers on world economies that really don't exist.

For instance; when currencies were tied to the gold standard, gold was not allowed to trade and its price was fixed! Now we speculate on anything globalists can think of.

Each individual country should determine the value of their own currencies. Each sovereign nation should have a strong currency in their own country regardless of what the rest of the world thinks.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/03/17 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Bolded segment from article
"Russia’s central bank opened its first overseas office in Beijing on Thursday, marking a small step forward in forging a Beijing-Moscow alliance to bypass the US dollar in the global monetary system.

Russia is preparing to issue its first federal loan bonds denominated in Chinese yuan.

Financial regulators from the two countries agreed last May to issue home currency-denominated bonds in each other’s markets, a move that was widely viewed as intended to “dethrone” the US dollar.


Originally Posted By: GaryK
If, what I bolded in your post really comes true, there will be a depression in the US that will make the 1930s depression look mild, and if our economy contracts that much so will the economies of the rest of the world. It will end up in a world-wide depression that will bankrupt the entire world.

I think you've made a very good deduction from that article Gary. That's been the warning that a lot of [real]economist, [real]financial experts, and etc... been giving to the world since the 2008-9 crash. The whole economic system is collapsing.

And Yes, I agree, it could be way worst than the depression of 1930s. Many is saying that. However, like Jim Willie says, some countries will be fine and actually will flourish with this crash while others will find themselves in the same situation as Venezuela is currently in.

Those that will do well are the ones that have been poor for over 100-200+ years with hardly any bi-lateral trades like many undeveloped countries in Africa and elsewhere. They've learn as a nation to deal with poverty and be more self-reliance than us. I think the table are going to change around. Those that were hungry will eat, and those that been overeating will be on a unplanned diet.

The ones that won't do well will be all the western countries that has been enjoying the "luxury of life" despite :

a)their national debt was increasing,
b)they imports more goods than what they exports or can produce,
c)they have outsourced most of their industries,
d)they largely don't produce their own food,
e)their government is still in control by the Deep State,
f)they have hardly or NO gold reserve,(btw. J.Trudeau within a few months after being elected, gave all our National gold away)
g)have a large load of immigrants to care for that will add tremendously to the social unrest....

Yes, the Western countries will face hyper-inflation, hunger, social unrest, and etc... as the final crash of Babylon's debt system.

Originally Posted By: Gary K
The reason for this is that currently the entire world holds dollars to do their international business with, and if that changes, look out. Everyone world wide will want to dump their dollars all at the same time...

Gary, they knew this was coming; so the dumping of the US treasury bonds [while stocking up on gold] has been happening since 2010 and the rate of the dumping rate has been quite high. I have posted several articles about this in the past 2 years.

Here's a brief summary background for those like yourself that are new reading this discussion. When the emerging countries like China & many other Asian producers, Brazil, Russia, etc... were tired of getting paid with this worthless UST bonds in exchange for ships filled with goods from their hard work and having absolutly no say in the world geopolitical decisions; these Nations (nearly 200 nations) started to collude together. In 2010 they demanded a gold back bilateral trade system and a say on things. Of course Mystery Babylon doesn't want to change their system. They designed it as so for the purpose to enslave everyone. Changing it to something FAIR and REASONABLE would go against their agenda. So they've been giving some lip service to the nations that they will change...but it never happened and the Nations don't believe their lies anymore and that's why in 2013 we saw them starting building an alternative system (I've posted these articles in this discussion also) to bypass the corrupt one. Now with that in place, they are ready to proceed to the next step into the transition to the new system.

Originally Posted By: Gary K
and the dollar will basically go to being worthless overnight. When that happens, inflation will hit so us so hard that it will be like what happened in the Wiemar Republic after WWI. It will take a wheelbarrow load of greenbacks just to buy a loaf of bread.

Yes, I think with this March 18th article [that was in the Chinese Press but only surfaced in ZeroHedge Friday] -- was an announcement and marked the official beginning of this transition to the new system.

Again, bear in mind that these Nations Leaders who are pushing to overthrow the Petro dollar, are aware of the negative impact it will have on many nations (especially on the Western countries). They do not want to cause civil unrest, panic, and starvation. They are planning this as best as they can to minimize these negative impact. So I think their are solutions in place for this also.

Despite of these solutions, we will still go thru some economic tribulation. The transition will still be hard work for everyone. Mystery Babylon created a huge mess. Not something easy to fix. But on the long run, it will be a very good thing : the nations will regain their industries, will go back in producing most of their own foods, will regain their sovereignty, and etc...

But, it will be the Western countries that will suffer the most. Some Western countries less than others depending on how they fair with the list provided above. I always thought that Canada was going to fair better than others, but since the last 2 years with all the development, I'm afraid my hopes were very wrong. We're going to be hit quite hard, I'm afraid. Probably most than all the others, because we are far from being freed from the Deep State as oppose to the UK, US, and other European countries that are regaining their national sovereignty.

So let's be ready and aware of God's perfect plan. Because I believe this is God's perfect plan despite we don't see it right now.

God's plan is told to us in Daniel 2 and 7; that once the last Beast Empire falls, God transfer the authority & dominion of the earth to the Saints of the Most High. So this also is happening behind the scenes which is a very good thing that is coming.

There's also talks about a Jubilee. When and to what extend? I don't know.

And then I also know, the Lord will lead the Western Countries into repentance. So I foresee He will use this "evil"['ra = calamity] situation for that great purpose of His. We, the people, we've been accomplice to Mystery Babylon's plans, thefts, wars, and etc... with our complacency. When we will see how much we were deceived and blinded; we will come to yurn for a better Kingdom... which will lead to value and want to be ruled by God's Kingdom. It won't happened overnight... but it will happened as prophecized.

I really don't know how the Lord will play it all out. However, let us never forget that the Lord is always in control. This (Mystery Babylon's fascist type of ruling and the destruction of their debt system) is actually all in the Lord's plan. At the end He will bring us on top of it. Let us not fear; but instead rejoice for our deliverance from Mystery Babylon's tyranny is at hand.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/03/17 04:21 PM

Elle,

One further link in this is that John Kerry told Congress if they didn't ratify the Iran deal, that really wasn't ever a deal as nothing was ever signed, was that the US dollar would be dethroned as the world's reserve currency. Don't know if I can find the reference for this, but I think where I first heard it was Glenn Beck's radio show. He's been pretty prophetic as to what is coming down the pike for a few years now, as he has rarely been wrong as to what was coming next both politically and financially.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/03/17 04:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Alchemy


Personally, I believe it's a terrible ordeal to trade currencies the way it's done today. But, globalism forces these risks and dangers on world economies that really don't exist.

For instance; when currencies were tied to the gold standard, gold was not allowed to trade and its price was fixed! Now we speculate on anything globalists can think of.

Each individual country should determine the value of their own currencies. Each sovereign nation should have a strong currency in their own country regardless of what the rest of the world thinks.


Even under the gold standard governments manipulated their currencies. One way is fractional reserve banking in which inflation is guaranteed. Why would a government want guaranteed inflation? Because as the printer of money they spend it first, and everyone else on down the line gets currency that is worth less than the currency the government first spends due to inflation. That keeps an ever increasing amount of wealth flowing towards the government and away from its citizens.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/04/17 09:45 PM

My comment : Incredible admission from, Robert David Steele, an ex-CIA on how the bureau has become since wwII (a blackmailing operation to push the Deep State War & Wastage agenda). I perceive that he's a genuine US patriot...one of the good CIA inside the bureau.

This video is not about defaming McCain or any individuals in particular; but to offer a suggestion to Trump how to cut the CIA budget by 75% and restore the bureau to its true purpose & function. This type of reform in the bureau would in turn cut the "leaked" sources to Mainstream Media all together and put a final end of their existence...and cut control of the Deep State over the bureau. How he thinks this can be accomplish (by which he calls "open source") is very interesting and quite smart. We'll see if Trump's administration will listen to his suggestion.

Despite, if his suggestion is followed or not, his presentation is quite informative.

EX CIA Robert David Steele In Oslo - McCain, Graham, Rubio and Schumer Are All Being Blackmailed


Published Aprl 3, 2017
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I was invited by Mr Steele to rebroadcast this message on our channel to get the word our. There's a lot to be said for Robert Steele's ideas on Open Source EVERYTHING and Electoral Reform. Mr Steele also claims that Chuck Schumer, Lyndsay Graham, Marco Rubio and John McCain are being blackmailed into going along with deep state policies.
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/14/17 01:15 AM

My comment : This is a pretty good interview of Dr. Lorraine Days... one of our own. I think she's on a very good track.

So kland.... this one is for you!

Dr. Lorraine Day - Overview Of The Zionist Conspiracy

Published on Sep 13, 2016
Dr. Lorraine Day with Daryl B. Smith on The French Connection (CII) - 2/3/2009
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/28/17 07:39 PM

My comment : There's lots of important news that I've been collecting but haven't had the chance to post them. The following group is concerning Canada's coming economic tribulations & pains.
In order listed below:

1. Lowering US crude oil imports from Canada. Currently 41% of US crude comes from Canada.
2. To add 20% tarrif tax on Canada's softwood imports to the US
3. The US is not happy with the current NAFTA agreement.
4. Canada's housing bubble market is currently popping.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-25/alberta-warns-trump-retaliation-if-energy-sanctions-begin
Alberta Warns Trump Of Retaliation If Energy Sanctions Begin
by Tyler Durden
Apr 25, 2017
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Alberta Premier Rachel Notley warned U.S. President Donald Trump that he would face the wrath of the northern nation’s many allies if the freshman president begins employing energy trade restrictions with Canada.
Notley is currently in China, negotiating her country’s trade policies with the Asian giant. She told reporters that she did not know what was meant by Trump’s comments about what Canada has done to its American neighbor with the energy, softwood lumber, and dairy industries.
"Canada, what they've done to our dairy farm workers, is a disgrace. It's a disgrace,” Trump said before signing a memorandum about investigation the national security implications of importing foreign steel.
Trump also criticized NAFTA in general, calling it a “disaster”, adding that that “included in there is lumber, timber, and energy. We’re going to have to get to the negotiating table with Canada very, very quickly”
"We're not exactly sure what it is he was referring to,'' Notley said in a conference call Monday, according to The Huffington Post.

"The leadership of the U.S. administration is going to find that they have a lot of their own stakeholders reminding them how much they need Canadian energy,'' she said.
Figures from 2016 show that 41 percent of all American crude imports, or 3.3 million barrels per day, came from Canada.

Trump has suggested ambiguous “very big changes” to the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which strings together Mexico, Canada and the U.S. through a uniform tariff policy. Opponents of the trade bloc created by the 1994 deal say it caused the growth of the U.S. trade deficit with its northern and southern neighbors, along with considerable job losses.

The U.S. is the largest refining complex in the world, and Canada’s cheap heavy oil pricing relative to other competing crude grades in the West Coast and Gulf Coast has made a lot of profit for U.S. heavy oil refiners. If Canada is planning on exporting 890,000 barrels per day of crude oil to the large refining markets of the Asia Pacific with a preference for heavier crude oils, this will inevitably hurt U.S. heavy oil refiners that benefitted from refining cheap Canadian heavy crude.

An Angry Canada Responds To Trump's Lumber Tariff... And What It Means For The Economy
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-25...t-means-economy
by Tyler Durden
Apr 25, 2017

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After last night's announcement of ~20% tariffs on softwood lumber imported from Canada, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau lashed out at the Trump administration saying the U.S. could suffer from a "thickening" border as trade tensions between the two countries escalated, sending the Canadian currency to a 14 month low.
As a reminder, the United States announced it would impose preliminary anti-subsidy duties averaging 20 percent on imports of Canadian softwood lumber, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said on Monday, escalating a long-running trade dispute between the two neighbors. The move, which affects some $5.66 billion worth of imports of the construction material, sets a tense tone as the two countries and Mexico prepare to renegotiate the 23-year-old North American Free Trade Agreement.
Speaking to a technology company in Ontario, Trudeau said he would defend the national interest: "standing up for Canada's interests is what my job is, whether it's softwood or software," Trudeau said, prompting applause and cheers.
"You cannot thicken this border without hurting people on both sides of it. Any two countries are going to have issues that will be irritants to the relationship and, quite frankly, having a good constructive working relationship allows us to work through those irritants."
Elsewhere, Canada's Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr said the U.S. move to set tariffs on softwood lumber shipments are an “unfair and unwarranted trade action.” Speaking to reproters in Ottawa, Carr said that Canada is looking at an aid package for lumber industry and workers which could up to $300 million, and added that a court challenge of duties is possible, and that Canada has won all of those cases in the past.
Carr also said free trade is in the best interest of both nations: "There are irritants in the trading relationship, they aren’t new."
Canada's Liberal Party leader says the two countries are economically interconnected, but it's not a one-way relationship. He said that millions of U.S. jobs depend on smooth flow of goods, services and people back and forth across the border. The Prime Minister also vowed to stand up for Canadian interests after Trump's decision sent the Canadian dollar to a 14-month low.

Yet while the currency fell, shares in Canadian lumber companies rose as the level of the new tariffs came in at the low end of what investors were expecting. Shares in West Fraser Timber, which would pay the highest duty rate of the affected companies, rose 5.6 percent to C$59.50 and the Canfor stock gained 3.5 percent to C$18.82. The average 20 percent anti-subsidy duties announced late on Monday compared to a 20-30 percent range expected by RBC equity analysts.
As Reuters adds, softwood lumber joins dairy as a key target for U.S. President Donald Trump, who tweeted a new attack on Canada's supply management system for dairy on Tuesday. Last week the president called Canada's dairy protections "unfair." "Canada has made business for our dairy farmers in Wisconsin and other border states very difficult. We will not stand for this. Watch!" Trump tweeted Tuesday morning.
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So what does Trump's announcement mean for the Canadian economy? Here is a summary of the key takeaways from a BofA note on the escalating trade war between the US and Canada.
o Trade uncertainty back to the forefront after US announced preliminary duties on Canadian softwood lumber exports.
o The announcement on tariffs was accompanied by negative comments regarding NAFTA, which may herald NAFTA renegotiation.
o Downside risks to growth intensify as higher tariffs lower exports and higher uncertainty delays investment.
And the details:
Trade uncertainty back to the forefront
US wants to renegotiate NAFTA
The US is likely to open the North America Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) for renegotiation and is willing to use tariffs to contest what it considers unfair trade. This has been our long standing view, but we got clear evidence that the US will be very active on the trade front after Wilbur Ross, US commerce secretary, announced on April 24th the imposition of preliminary duties of almost 20% against Canadian softwood lumber exports. Ross said that the US is using countervailing duties after it was “not able to achieve a fair result” through negotiation with Canada. He said that Canada benefits from a provision in NAFTA that allows Canada to supersede US sovereignty.
Downside risks to Canadian growth
The imposition of countervailing tariffs along with the comments on NAFTA increases uncertainty regarding trade policies for the North America region, which will likely delay investment. Although we believe that Canada is not the main target of US anti-trade policies, it is certainly very exposed to US trade. Higher tariffs will have a negative impact on production in the Canadian lumber industry (Lumber exports are almost 1% of Canadian GDP). Growth in Canada has been surprising to the upside, in line with our more constructive view of the economy. But the likely renegotiation of NAFTA and an active US trade policy put downside risks on our 2.3% GDP growth expectation for 2017.
Renegotiation of NAFTA is positive, but…
We expect the US to send a notification to open NAFTA for renegotiation soon. That will open a 90 day window for countries to prepare. Any renegotiation is likely to be lengthy, going well into 2018. And an institutional renegotiation of NAFTA has a good chance of ending with an updated agreement that benefits the region by incorporating new sectors into the treaty (e.g., energy, ecommerce). Consider the TPP blueprint that the staffs of the three countries involved had already agreed on as a starting point. But in the meantime uncertainty will likely be high as countries take different postures or even actions such as the impositions of tariffs to improve their leverage. The risk is that it all ends in a trade war, although the strength of the value chains in North America makes the latter an unlikely scenario, in our view.
Back to dovish BoC
The increase on trade uncertainty will be highlighted by the BoC, which will support our strategists’ view of a weaker CAD, in our view.


Peso Plunges As White House Plans NAFTA Withdrawal Executive Order
by Tyler Durden
Apr 26, 2017

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The Mexican Peso is tumbling (and Loonie extending yesterday's timber-tariff-driven losses), as Politico reports, the Trump administration is considering an executive order on withdrawing the U.S. from NAFTA, according to two White House officials.

Politico reports that a draft order has been submitted for the final stages of review and could be unveiled late this week or early next week, the officials said. The effort, which still could change in the coming days as more officials weigh in, would indicate the administration’s intent to withdraw from the sweeping pact by triggering the timeline set forth in the deal.

The approach appears designed to extract better terms with Canada and Mexico, and judging bvy the FX market's reaction, they agree...


Trump in recent weeks has stepped up his rhetoric vowing to terminate the agreement all together.
“NAFTA’s been very, very bad for our country,” he said in a speech last week in Kenosha, Wis.

“It’s been very, very bad for our companies and for our workers, and we’re going to make some very big changes or we are going to get rid of NAFTA once and for all.”

Peter Navarro, the head of Trump’s National Trade Council, drafted the executive order in close cooperation with chief White House strategist Steve Bannon. The executive order was submitted this week to the staff secretary for the final stages of review, according to one of the White House officials.

All this rhetoric, however, is sending the dollar surging - something Trump expressed just a few days ago was not great...


Canada's Housing Bubble Explodes As Its Biggest Mortgage Lender Crashes Most In History

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-26...es-most-history
by Tyler Durden
Apr 27, 2017
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Call it Canada's "New Century" moment.
We first introduced readers to the company we said was the "tip of the iceberg in Canada's magnificent housing bubble" nearly two years ago, in July 2015 when we exposed a major problem that we predicted would haunt Home Capital Group, Canada's largest non-bank mortgage lender: liar loans in particular, and a generally overzealous lending business model with little regard for fundamentals. In the interim period, many other voices - most prominently noted short-seller Marc Cohodes - would constantly remind traders and investors about the threat posed by HCG.

Today, all those warnings came true, when the stock of Home Capital Group cratered by over 60%, its biggest drop on record, after the company disclosed that it struck an emergency liquidity arrangement for a C$2 billion ($1.5 billion) credit line to counter evaporating deposits at terms that will leave the alternative mortgage lender unable to meet financial targets, and worse, may leave it insolvent in very short notice.

As part of this inevitable outcome, one which presages the company's eventual disintegration and likely liquidation, Bloomberg reports that the non-binding rescue loan with an unnamed counterparty will be secured by a portfolio of mortgage loans originated by Home Trust, the Toronto-based firm said in a statement Wednesday. Home Capital shares dropped by 61% in Toronto to the lowest since 2003, dragging down other home lenders. Equitable Group Inc. fell 17 percent, Street Capital Group Inc. fell 13 percent, while First National Financial Corp. declined 7.6 percent. In short, the Canadian mortgage bubble has finally burst.

Some more details on HCG's emergency source of funding: Home Capital will pay 10% interest on outstanding balances and a non-refundable commitment fee of C$100 million, while standby fee on undrawn funds is 2.5%. The initial draw must be C$1 billion. The loan has an effective - and very much distressed - interest rate of 22.5% on the first C$1 billion, declining to 15% if fully utilized, according to a note from Jaeme Gloyn, an analyst at National Bank of Canada.
Home Capital said the credit line is intended to “mitigate” a sharp drop in Home Trust’s high-interest savings account balances, which sank by $591 million from March 28 to April 24, at which point the total balance was $1.4 billion. Home Capital warned on Wednesday that further outflows are anticipated.

Translated: what until last night was a depositor bank jog just became a sprint.

The loan will provide Home Capital with more than C$3.5 billion in total funding, more than twice the C$1.5 billion in liquid assets it held as at April 24. It also has C$200 million in securities available for sale, and high interest savings account balances fell about 25% to C$1.4 billion over the past month. Home Capital relies on deposits to fund their mortgage loans; following today's announcement the company's liquidity is certain to get even worse as all non-distressed sources of cash are pulled.

Cited by Bloomberg, Andrew Torres, founding partner and chief investment officer at Toronto-based Lawrence Park Asset Management said that "The company is facing a bit of a liquidity crunch and they felt they needed to resolve it quickly." He said the "steep" commitment fee and the interest rate on the loan "are surprising numbers for a company that was ostensibly investment-grade."
Well, it was only investment grade because as usual the rating agencies never did their homework. For a real hint into the company's rating, look at the 22.5% interest rate, suggesting the company's days outside of bankruptcy are numbered.

Home Capital Group's sudden collapse was actually visible from a distance. While in the summer of 2015, the termination of HCG was still debate, in recent months the company’s woes stemmed from allegations by the Ontario Securities Commission that Home Capital misled investors and broke securities laws.

In other words engaged in those "liar loans" which we first warned about back in the summer of 2015.

Meanwhile, founder Gerald Soloway will step down from the board when a replacement is named and Robert Blowes will assume the role of interim chief financial officer, the company said Monday.
"The company anticipates that further declines will occur, and that the credit line would also mitigate the impact of those," Home Capital said.

Amusingly, it was just two months ago when the company set new performance goals after reporting quarterly results, targeting revenue growth of 5% or greater, diluted earnings-per-share of 7% or greater and a return on equity of 15 percent or more over the long term, according to Bloomberg. It should add one more "performance goal" - stay out of bankruptcy for at least 3 months.
"They did what appears to be to us a very expensive deal," said David Baskin, president and founder of Baskin Wealth Management in Toronto, a former investor in Home Capital stock. "Basically they blew up the income statement in order to save the balance sheet, which I guess if you’re facing an existential crisis is what you have to do."

The Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions (OSFI) told Canada's BNN it does not comment on specific institutions it supervises, but that it maintains ongoing relationships with those institutions and is monitoring the Home Capital situation "closely."
Canada's entire mortgage lending market is tumbling.


Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/28/17 08:38 PM

"a generally overzealous lending business model "

Guess they didn't learn from U.S.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/28/17 10:32 PM

My comment: Here's two articles to give us some historical background of what happened to Korea. We shouldn't be surprised to read that it is the US (not N.Korea like MSM would like us to believe) who is the problem.

The 2nd article would be better to read from its source as it has many other links embedded in the text.

The problem is Washington, not North Korea

Mike Whitney
Tue, 18 Apr 2017

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Washington has never made any effort to conceal its contempt for North Korea. In the 64 years since the war ended, the US has done everything in its power to punish, humiliate and inflict pain on the Communist country. Washington has subjected the DPRK to starvation, prevented its government from accessing foreign capital and markets, strangled its economy with crippling economic sanctions, and installed lethal missile systems and military bases on their doorstep.

Negotiations aren't possible because Washington refuses to sit down with a country which it sees as its inferior. Instead, the US has strong-armed China to do its bidding by using their diplomats as interlocutors who are expected to convey Washington's ultimatums as threateningly as possible. The hope, of course, is that Pyongyang will cave in to Uncle Sam's bullying and do what they are told.

But the North has never succumbed to US intimidation and there's no sign that it will. Instead, they have developed a small arsenal of nuclear weapons to defend themselves in the event that the US tries to assert its dominance by launching another war.

There's no country in the world that needs nuclear weapons more than North Korea. Brainwashed Americans, who get their news from FOX or CNN, may differ on this point, but if a hostile nation deployed carrier strike-groups off the coast of California while conducting massive war games on the Mexican border (with the express intention of scaring the [censored] of people) then they might see things differently. They might see the value of having a few nuclear weapons to deter that hostile nation from doing something really stupid.

And let's be honest, the only reason Kim Jong Un hasn't joined Saddam and Gadhafi in the great hereafter, is because (a) - The North does not sit on an ocean of oil, and (b) - The North has the capacity to reduce Seoul, Okinawa and Tokyo into smoldering debris-fields. Absent Kim's WMDs, Pyongyang would have faced a preemptive attack long ago and Kim would have faced a fate similar to Gadhafi's. Nuclear weapons are the only known antidote to US adventurism.

The American people - whose grasp of history does not extend beyond the events of 9-11 — have no idea of the way the US fights its wars or the horrific carnage and destruction it unleashed on the North. Here's a short refresher that helps clarify why the North is still wary of the US more than 60 years after the armistice was signed. The excerpt is from an article titled "Americans have forgotten what we did to North Korea", at Vox World:
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"In the early 1950s, during the Korean War, the US dropped more bombs on North Korea than it had dropped in the entire Pacific theater during World War II. This carpet bombing, which included 32,000 tons of napalm, often deliberately targeted civilian as well as military targets, devastating the country far beyond what was necessary to fight the war. Whole cities were destroyed, with many thousands of innocent civilians killed and many more left homeless and hungry....

According to US journalist Blaine Harden: "Over a period of three years or so, we killed off — what — 20 percent of the population," Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay, head of the Strategic Air Command during the Korean War, told the Office of Air Force History in 1984. Dean Rusk, a supporter of the war and later secretary of state, said the United States bombed "everything that moved in North Korea, every brick standing on top of another." After running low on urban targets, U.S. bombers destroyed hydroelectric and irrigation dams in the later stages of the war, flooding farmland and destroying crops......

"On January 3 at 10:30 AM an armada of 82 flying fortresses loosed their death-dealing load on the city of Pyongyang ...Hundreds of tons of bombs and incendiary compound were simultaneously dropped throughout the city, causing annihilating fires, the transatlantic barbarians bombed the city with delayed-action high-explosive bombs which exploded at intervals for a whole day making it impossible for the people to come out onto the streets. The entire city has now been burning, enveloped in flames, for two days. By the second day, 7,812 civilians houses had been burnt down. The Americans were well aware that there were no military targets left in Pyongyang...

The number of inhabitants of Pyongyang killed by bomb splinters, burnt alive and suffocated by smoke is incalculable...Some 50,000 inhabitants remain in the city which before the war had a population of 500,000." ("Americans have forgotten what we did to North Korea", Vox World)

The United States killed over 2 million people in a country that posed no threat to US national security. Like Vietnam, the Korean War was just another muscle-flexing exercise the US periodically engages in whenever it gets bored or needs some far-flung location to try out its new weapons systems. The US had nothing to gain in its aggression on the Korean peninsula, it was mix of imperial overreach and pure unalloyed viciousness the likes of which we've seen many times in the past. According to the Asia-Pacific Journal:
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"By the fall of 1952, there were no effective targets left for US planes to hit. Every significant town, city and industrial area in North Korea had already been bombed. In the spring of 1953, the Air Force targeted irrigation dams on the Yalu River, both to destroy the North Korean rice crop and to pressure the Chinese, who would have to supply more food aid to the North. Five reservoirs were hit, flooding thousands of acres of farmland, inundating whole towns and laying waste to the essential food source for millions of North Koreans. Only emergency assistance from China, the USSR, and other socialist countries prevented widespread famine." ("The Destruction and Reconstruction of North Korea, 1950 - 1960", The Asia-Pacific Journal, Japan Focus)

Repeat: "Reservoirs, irrigation dams, rice crops, hydroelectric dams, population centers" all napalmed, all carpet bombed, all razed to the ground. Nothing was spared. If it moved it was shot, if it didn't move, it was bombed. The US couldn't win, so they turned the country into an uninhabitable wastelands. "Let them starve. Let them freeze.. Let them eat weeds and roots and rodents to survive. Let them sleep in the ditches and find shelter in the rubble. What do we care? We're the greatest country on earth. God bless America."

This is how Washington does business, and it hasn't changed since the Seventh Cavalry wiped out 150 men, women and children at Wounded Knee more than century ago. The Lakota Sioux at Pine Ridge got the same basic treatment as the North Koreans, or the Vietnamese, or the Nicaraguans, or the Iraqis and on and on and on and on. Anyone else who gets in Uncle Sam's way, winds up in a world of hurt. End of story.

The savagery of America's war against the North left an indelible mark on the psyche of the people. Whatever the cost, the North cannot allow a similar scenario to take place in the future. Whatever the cost, they must be prepared to defend themselves. If that means nukes, then so be it. Self preservation is the top priority.

Is there a way to end this pointless standoff between Pyongyang and Washington, a way to mend fences and build trust?

Of course there is. The US just needs to start treating the DPRK with respect and follow through on their promises. What promises?

The promise to build the North two light-water reactors to provide heat and light to their people in exchange for an end to its nuclear weapons program. You won't read about this deal in the media because the media is just the propaganda wing of the Pentagon. They have no interest in promoting peaceful solutions. Their stock-in-trade is war, war and more war.

The North wants the US to honor its obligations under the 1994 Agreed Framework. That's it. Just keep up your end of the goddamn deal. How hard can that be? Here's how Jimmy Carter summed it up in a Washington Post op-ed (November 24, 2010):
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"...in September 2005, an agreement ... reaffirmed the basic premises of the 1994 accord. (The Agreed Framework) Its text included denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, a pledge of non-aggression by the United States and steps to evolve a permanent peace agreement to replace the U.S.-North Korean-Chinese cease-fire that has been in effect since July 1953. Unfortunately, no substantive progress has been made since 2005...

"This past July I was invited to return to Pyongyang to secure the release of an American, Aijalon Gomes, with the proviso that my visit would last long enough for substantive talks with top North Korean officials. They spelled out in detail their desire to develop a denuclearized Korean Peninsula and a permanent cease-fire, based on the 1994 agreements and the terms adopted by the six powers in September 2005....

"North Korean officials have given the same message to other recent American visitors and have permitted access by nuclear experts to an advanced facility for purifying uranium. The same officials had made it clear to me that this array of centrifuges would be 'on the table' for discussions with the United States, although uranium purification - a very slow process - was not covered in the 1994 agreements.

"Pyongyang has sent a consistent message that during direct talks with the United States, it is ready to conclude an agreement to end its nuclear programs, put them all under IAEA inspection and conclude a permanent peace treaty to replace the 'temporary' cease-fire of 1953. We should consider responding to this offer. The unfortunate alternative is for North Koreans to take whatever actions they consider necessary to defend themselves from what they claim to fear most: a military attack supported by the United States, along with efforts to change the political regime."


("North Korea's consistent message to the U.S.", President Jimmy Carter, Washington Post)
Most people think the problem lies with North Korea, but it doesn't. The problem lies with the United States; it's unwillingness to negotiate an end to the war, its unwillingness to provide basic security guarantees to the North, its unwillingness to even sit down with the people who - through Washington's own stubborn ignorance - are now developing long-range ballistic missiles that will be capable of hitting American cities.

How dumb is that?

The Trump team is sticking with a policy that has failed for 63 years and which clearly undermines US national security by putting American citizens directly at risk. AND FOR WHAT?

To preserve the image of "tough guy", to convince people that the US doesn't negotiate with weaker countries, to prove to the world that "whatever the US says, goes"? Is that it? Is image more important than a potential nuclear disaster?

Relations with the North can be normalized, economic ties can be strengthened, trust can be restored, and the nuclear threat can be defused. The situation with the North does not have to be a crisis, it can be fixed. It just takes a change in policy, a bit of give-and-take, and leaders that genuinely want peace more than war.

Why North Korea Needs Nukes - And How To End That
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/04/the...-to-end-it.html
April 14, 2017

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Why North Korea Needs Nukes - And How To End That

Now consider what the U.S. media don't tell you about Korea:

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BEIJING, March 8 (Xinhua) -- China proposed "double suspension" to defuse the looming crisis on the Korean Peninsula, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Wednesday.
"As a first step, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) may suspend its nuclear and missile activities in exchange for the suspension of large-scale U.S.-Republic of Korea (ROK) military exercises," Wang told a press conference on the sidelines of the annual session of the National People's Congress.
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Wang said the nuclear issue on the Korean Peninsula is mainly between the DPRK and the United States, but China, as a next-door neighbor with a lips-and-teeth relationship with the Peninsula, is indispensable to the resolution of the issue.

FM Wang, 'the lips', undoubtedly transmitted an authorized message from North Korea: "The offer is (still) on the table and China supports it."

North Korea has made the very same offer in January 2015. The Obama administration rejected it. North Korea repeated the offer in April 2016 and the Obama administration rejected it again. This March the Chinese government conveyed and supported the long-standing North Korean offer. The U.S. government, now under the Trump administration, immediately rejected it again. The offer, made and rejected three years in a row, is sensible. Its rejection only led to a bigger nuclear arsenal and to more missiles with longer reach that will eventually be able to reach the United States.

North Korea is understandably nervous each and every time the U.S. and South Korea launch their very large yearly maneuvers and openly train for invading North Korea and for killing its government and people. The maneuvers have large negative impacts on North Korea's economy.

North Korea justifies its nuclear program as the economically optimal way to respond to these maneuvers.

Each time the U.S. and South Korea launch their very large maneuvers, the North Korean conscription army (1.2 million strong) has to go into a high state of defense readiness. Large maneuvers are a classic starting point for military attacks. The U.S.-South Korean maneuvers are (intentionally) held during the planting (April/May) or harvesting (August) season for rice when North Korea needs each and every hand in its few arable areas. Only 17% of the northern landmass is usable for agriculture and the climate in not favorable. The cropping season is short. Seeding and harvesting days require peak labor.

The southern maneuvers directly threaten the nutritional self-sufficiency of North Korea. In the later 1990s they were one of the reasons behind a severe famine. (Lack of hydrocarbons and fertilizer due to sanctions as well as a too rigid economic system were other main reasons.)

North Korean soldiers on agricultural duty - bigger

Its nuclear deterrent allows North Korea to reduce its conventional military readiness especially during the all important agricultural seasons. Labor withheld from the fields and elsewhere out of military necessity can go back to work. This is now the official North Korean policy known as 'byungjin'. (Byungjin started informally in the mid 2000nds after U.S. President Bush tuned up his hostile policy towards North Korea - Chronology of U.S.-North Korean Nuclear and Missile Diplomacy)

A guaranteed end of the yearly U.S. maneuvers would allow North Korea to lower its conventional defenses without relying on nukes. The link between the U.S. maneuvers and the nuclear deterrent North Korea is making in its repeated offer is a direct and logical connection.

The North Korean head of state Kim Jong-un has officially announced a no-first-use policy for its nuclear capabilities:

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"As a responsible nuclear weapons state, our republic will not use a nuclear weapon unless its sovereignty is encroached upon by any aggressive hostile forces with nukes," Kim told the Workers' Party of Korea congress in Pyongyang. Kim added that the North "will faithfully fulfill its obligation for non-proliferation and strive for the global denuclearization."
During the congress, as elsewhere, Kim Jong Un also emphasized (transcript, pdf, v. slow) the above described connection between nuclear armament and economic development. Summarized:

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After decades of emphasizing military strength under his father, Korea is moving toward Kim's “byongjin” — a two-pronged approach aimed at enhancing nuclear might while improving living conditions.
The byongjin strategy, despised by the Obama administration, has been successful:

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What are the sources of [North Korea's economic] growth? One explanation might be that less is now spent on the conventional military sector, while nuclear development at this stage is cheaper—it may only cost 2 to 3 percent of GNP, according to some estimates. Theoretically, byungjin is more “economy friendly” than the previous “songun” or military-first policy which supposedly concentrated resources on the military.
To understand why North Korea fears U.S. aggressiveness consider the utter devastation caused mostly by the U.S. during the Korea War:

via Jeffrey Kaye - bigger

Imperial Japan occupied Korea from 1905 to 1945 and tried to assimilate it. A nominal communist resistance under Kim Il-sung and others fought against the Japanese occupation. After the Japanese WWII surrender in 1945 the U.S. controlled and occupied the mostly agricultural parts of Korea below the arbitrarily chosen 38th parallel line. The allied Soviet Union controlled the industrialized part above the line. They had agreed on a short trusteeship of a united and independent country. In the upcoming cold war the U.S. retracted on the agreement and in 1948 installed a South Korean proxy dictatorship under Syngman Rhee. This manifested an artificial border the Koreans had not asked for and did not want. The communists still commanded a strong and seasoned resistance movement in the south and hoped to reunite the country. The Korea War ensued. It utterly destroyed the country. All of Korea was severely effected but especially the industrialized north which lost about a third of its population and all of its reasonably well developed infrastructure - roads, factories and nearly all of its cities.

Every Korean family was effected. Ancestor worship is deeply embedded in the Korean psyche and its collectivist culture. No one has forgotten the near genocide and no one in Korea, north or south, wants to repeat the experience.

The country would reunite if China and the U.S. (and Russia) could agree upon its neutrality. That will not happen anytime soon. But the continued danger of an "accidental" war in Korea would be much diminished if the U.S. would accept the North Korean offer - an end to aggressive behavior like threatening maneuvers against the north, in exchange for a verified stop of the northern nuclear and missile programs. North Korea has to insist on this condition out of sheer economic necessity.

The U.S. government and the "western" media hide the rationality of the northern offer behind the propaganda phantasm of "the volatile and unpredictable regime".

But it is not Korea, neither north nor south, that is the "volatile and unpredictable" entity here.

Update:

Yesterday's Day of the Sun / Juche 105 (the 105th birth anniversary of Kim Il-sung) parade in Pyongyang went along without a hitch and without interference from the U.S. side.

Several new types of missile carrying Transporter-Erector-Launcher vehicles (TELs) were shown. The three hour TV transmission is available here. The military equipment display starts around 2h14m; the nuclear capable carriers are seen from 2h20m onward.

An early-impression remark from The Diplomat: North Korea's 2017 Military Parade Was a Big Deal. Here Are the Major Takeaways

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Even though Pyongyang withheld from testing this weekend amid rumors of possible retaliation by the United States, North Korea is still looking to improve its missile know-how. Moreover, the long-dreaded ICBM flight test also might not be too far off now. Given the ever-growing number of TELs — both wheeled and tracked — North Korea may soon field nuclear forces amply large that a conventional U.S.-South Korea first strike may find it impossible to fully disarm Pyongyang of a nuclear retaliatory capability. That would give the North Korean regime what it’s always sought with its nuclear and ballistic missile program: an absolute guarantee against coercive removal.
The "absolute guarantee against coercive removal" would, in consequence, allow for much smaller conventional forces and less resources spend on the military. This again will enable faster economic development for the people in North Korea. The byongjin strategy will have reached its aim.



Historic and Factual Basis of North Korea’s Hatred Toward America
http://www.newnationalist.net/2017/04/18...gainst-america/

April 18, 2017
Russ Winter

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When one knows the hidden history about the massive targeting of North Korean civilians with so-called strategic bombing, it’s easier to understand the hate from that country and see that it’s not manufactured. It’s rooted in a fact-based narrative. By the time the Korean War ended on July 27, 1953, B-29s alone had flown over 21,000 sorties, dropping nearly 600,000 tons of bombs. Fighter aircraft flew thousands of additional sorties over North Korea.

After China entered the war in late 1950, the United States switched to targeting civilians in much the same manner as conducted over Germany and Japan during WWII. Gen. Douglas MacArthur designated cities and villages in North Korea as “main bombing targets” and permitted the use of incendiary bombs.

The bombing of Pyongyang, North Korea’s capital, was conducted as part of a sustained U.S. Air Force aerial bombardment campaign. By the time of the armistice, 75 percent of Pyongyang was destroyed as part of a broader U.S. bombing effort throughout the country. It cost the lives of nearly 3 million North Koreans (mostly civilians) by the time the war ended.



The campaign was conducted by the blood thirsty Air Force Gen. Curtis LeMay, head of the Strategic Air Command, who also has the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians on his hands from WWII.

LeMay bragged, “Over a period of three years or so, we killed off — what — 20 percent of the population during the Korean War”.

Dean Rusk, a supporter of the war and later secretary of state, said the United States bombed “everything that moved in North Korea, every brick standing on top of another.”

After running low on urban targets, U.S. bombers destroyed hydroelectric and irrigation dams in the latter stages of the war, flooding farmland and destroying crops.

This means that virtually every person living in North Korea today has siblings, parents, grandparents or great grandparents that perished in this total war. It is a real stretch to gaslight Koreans as “crazy” or “irrational” given this reality. It is also the height of ignorance to not understand North Korea’s need for powerful retaliatory weapons.

In particular, listen to professor Bruce Cummings discuss the ineffectiveness of murderous strategic bombing both in Korea and Germany [at 6:30 in the video below]. In fact, it hardened morale and stiffened resistance, resulting in a “last-stand” mentality that extends to this day.



As with today, western war reporters of that era rarely mentioned civilian casualties from U.S. carpet bombing.

Even before the 1950 war, about 100,000 people were murdered in South Korea under U.S. occupation, including 30,000 to 40,000 killed during the suppression of a peasant revolt in one small region, Cheju Island. Part of the hidden history is that the U.S. utilized former Japanese occupiers and operatives for this. The Korean War itself was set off by a series of false flags and provocations.


Mass execution of North Koreans
In addition, Koreans were subjected to mass killings via death squads and goons. Immediately after the war started, potential collaborators with North Korea were summarily executed by army intelligence agencies and police. Finally, collaborators, or suspects, with the North Korean People’s Army were vengefully punished after United Nations forces recovered Seoul. Also, the U.S. military and ROK were engaged in killing innumerable refugees and civilians in enemy territory throughout the war. [See “Mass Civilian Killings by South Korean and U.S. Forces“]

Fratricidal executions of North Koreans:



A large and murderous partisan army was inserted into North Korea that was ruthless and indiscriminate in their targeting, resulting in the deaths of large numbers of North Korean civilians as well as military.

The New Nationalist’s takeaway: There is zero chance that North Korea is going to respond favorably to bombing threats from clueless Donald “The Red Queen” Trump. And for the U.S., to start murdering civilians again by air would just asking for severe retribution. Given the hidden history, we have little doubt that North Korea would deliver it in spades. The country has been dug in underground for 65 years.

In the short run, there is a proposal on the table that should be accepted to defuse the situation. China proposed a “double suspension” on the Korean Peninsula:

“As a first step, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) may suspend its nuclear and missile activities in exchange for the suspension of large-scale U.S.-Republic of Korea (ROK) military exercises.” Wang told a press conference on the sidelines of the annual session of the National People’s Congress.


In fact, to reverse this reap-what-you-sow failed policy in the long run would require serious reconciliation and apologies from the U.S., in particular for 1950-1953 war crimes. This could culminate with a visit by future U.S. President Tulsi Gabbard to lay wreaths at the Pyongyang holocaust memorial. In the photo to the right, Russian President Vladimir Putin shows how it is done. Given the unlikelihood of this, look instead for hundreds of thousands of Americans in body bags as the Trumpians fumble their way into war.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 04/29/17 03:32 PM

My comment: To my surprise, in the news yesterday I read this article entitled ISIS apologized to Israel on attacking IDF Soldiers. Why would ISIS apologize to Israel? Unless they are associated. I already knew about this association, but what surprised me is the open admission in the Israeli News.

Another revealing admission was found a few years by someone who caught in the Haaretz Israeli News dating back on Jun 24 2002 this article entitled The Cult of ISIS. In that news article they bluntly admit that "Efraim Halevy, the head of the Mossad, Israel's espionage agency, or as he is usually introduced in English, the chief of the ISIS (Israel secret intelligence service). What??? ISIS is an acronym for "Israel Secret Intelligence Service". Tx for letting us know.

Here's what the first paragraph of this article says :
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"A nephew of the late philosopher Isaiah Berlin and the great-grandson of a famous general from Berlin met yesterday in Brussels to discuss the common threats facing Israel, Germany and the 18 other countries that are members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO). The great-grandson is Gebhardt von Moltke, Germany's ambassador to NATO and formerly the political deputy - a position reserved for the German representative - of the alliance's secretary-general. The nephew is Efraim Halevy, the head of the Mossad, Israel's espionage agency, or as he is usually introduced in English, the chief of the ISIS (Israel secret intelligence service). SIS is the official name of MI6, the British version of the Mossad; Halevy was born in Britain and came to Israel as a youth.


It cannot be clearer than that. You won't find that type of admission in the Mainstream Media (MSM) design to provide "fake news" and keep the Westerners asleep while the Babylonians destroys our Christian countries.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/07/17 06:37 PM

My comment: More and more we will be hit by many "reality check". These past weeks I'm amazed with the amount of "truth" that is coming out. I've had many "reality checks" in my personal life since 2017 started. And it haven't stopped.

Basically, my understanding is that we've been lied to for a very long long time. And how deep is the lie? It is pretty deep. But let us not be surprise.... for what more can you expect from a Beast Empire with a name as "Mystery[secret] Babylon[confusion]".

These "reality checks" or "surfacing truths" are a good sign that the fall of Mystery Babylon is almost over as its deepest deceptions are being exposed.

The Deep History of US, Britain’s Never-Ending Cold War On Russia
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/20...war-russia.html

FINIAN CUNNINGHAM | 04.05.2017

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After decades of delaying, the United Nations finally released archives from the Second World War-era war crimes commission investigating the Nazi Holocaust. The source of those archives on Nazi war crimes were Western governments, including those in exile at the time of the war, such as the Belgian, Polish and Czechoslovakian. The time period covered is 1943-1949. Washington and London had long sought to halt the release. Why?

Notably, the landmark publication of the files last month was given scant Western media coverage. Surprisingly, perhaps, because the story that can be gleaned from the documents tells of a hidden history of the Second World War, namely the systematic collusion between the American and British governments and the Nazi Third Reich.

As a report in Deutsche Welle remarked on the released archives: «The files make clear that [Western] Allied forces knew more about the Nazi concentration camp system before the end of the war than has generally been thought».

This revelation points to more than just «knowledge» among the Western allies of Nazi-era crimes; it points more damningly to state collusion. This would also explain why Washington and London have been reluctant to make the UN war crimes files publicly available.

There has long been a controversial debate among Western nations about why the US and Britain in particular did not do more to bomb the Nazi infrastructure of death camps and railroads. Washington and London have often made the claim that they did know the full extent of the horror being perpetrated by the Nazis until the very end of the war when extermination centers such as at Auschwitz and Treblinka were liberated – by the Soviet Red Army, it should be noted too.

However, what the latest release of UN Holocaust files shows is that Washington and London were indeed well aware of the Nazi Final Solution in which millions of European Jews and Slavic people were being systematically worked to death or exterminated in gas chambers. So the question again is: why did the US and Britain not direct more of their aerial bombing campaign to destroy the Nazi infrastructure?

One possible answer is that these Western allies had a callous disregard for the Nazi victims. Washington and London establishments were themselves accused of harboring antisemitic prejudices, as can be seen from the scandals when both these governments spurned thousands of European Jewish refugees during the Second World War, in effect sending many of them to their deaths under the Nazi regime.

Not excluding the above factor of Western racist insouciance, there is a second more disturbing factor. That the Western governments, or at least powerful sections, were loath to hamper the Nazi war effort against the Soviet Union. Notwithstanding that the Soviet Union was a nominal «ally» of the West for the defeat of Nazi Germany.

This perspective harks to a radically different conception of the Second World War in contrast to that narrated in official Western versions. In this alternative historical account, the rise of the Nazi Third Reich was deliberately fomented by American and British rulers as a bulwark in Europe against the spread of communism. Adolf Hitler’s rabid anti-Semitism was matched only by his detest of Marxism and the Slavic people of the Soviet Union. In the Nazi ideology, they were all «Untermenschen» (subhumans) to be exterminated in a «Final Solution».

So, when Nazi Germany was attacking the Soviet Union and carrying out its Final Solution from June 1941 until late 1944, little wonder then that the US and Britain showed a curious reluctance to commit their military forces fully to open up a Western Front. The Western allies were evidently content to see the Nazi war machine doing what it was originally intended to do: to destroy the primary enemy to Western capitalism as represented by the Soviet Union. This is not to say that all American and British political leaders shared or were even aware of this tacit strategic vision. Leaders like President Franklin Roosevelt and Prime Minister Winston Churchill appeared to be genuinely committed to defeating Nazi Germany. Nevertheless, their individual views must be set against a background of systematic collusion between powerful Western corporate interests and Nazi Germany.

As American author David Talbot documented in his book, The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA and the Rise of America’s Secret Government (2015), there were massive financial links between Wall Street and the Third Reich, going back several years before the outbreak of the Second World War.

Allen Dulles, who worked for the Wall Street law firm Sullivan and Cromwell and who later headed up the American Central Intelligence Agency, was a key player in the linkage between US capital and German industry. American industrial giants, such as Ford, GM, ITT and Du Pont were invested heavily in German industrial counterparts like IG Farben (manufacturer of Zyklon B, the poisonous gas used in the Holocaust), Krupp Steel and Daimler. American capital, as well as British, was thus integrated into the Nazi war machine and the latter’s dependence on the system of slave labor as provided by the Final Solution.

This would explain why the Western allies did so little to disrupt the Nazi infrastructure with their undoubted formidable aerial bombing capacity. Far more damning than mere inertia or indifference owing to racist prejudice towards the Nazi victims, what emerges is that the Americans and British capitalist elite were invested in the Third Reich. Mainly for the purpose of eliminating the Soviet Union and any kind of genuinely socialist global movement. Bombing Nazi infrastructure would have been tantamount to deleting Western assets.

To this end, as the war was drawing to a close and the Soviet Union looked poised to roll up the Third Reich singlehandedly, the Americans and British belatedly stepped up their war efforts from western and southern Europe. The goal was one of salvaging Western assets remaining in the Nazi regime. Allen Dulles, the director of the-soon-to-be-formed American Central Intelligence Agency, extricated top Nazis and their gold looted from Europe in secret surrender deals known as Operation Sunrise. Britain’s military intelligence MI6 was also involved in the clandestine American effort to salvage Nazi assets via ratlines. The bad faith on display to the Soviet «allies» heralded the chill of the ensuing Cold War that immediately followed the Second World War.

Significant and damning testimony of what was going down was given recently in a BBC interview by Ben Ferencz, the most senior surviving US prosecutor from the Nuremberg trials. At age 98, Ferencz was still able to lucidly recall how scores of Nazi war criminals were let off the hook by the American and British authorities. Ferencz cited US General George Patton who remarked just before the final surrender of the Third Reich in early May 1945, as saying: «We’re fighting the wrong enemy». Patton’s candid expression of deeper animosity towards the Soviet Union than towards Nazi Germany was consistent with how the US and British ruling class had been colluding with Hitler’s Third Reich in a geo-strategic war against the Soviet Union and worker-led socialist movements arising across Europe and America.

In other words, the Cold War which the US and Britain embarked on after 1945 was but a continuation of hostile policy towards Moscow that was already underway well before the Second World War erupted in 1939 in the form of a build up of Nazi Germany. For various reasons, it became expedient for the Western powers to liquidate the Nazi war machine, along with the Soviet Union. But as can be seen, the Western assets residing in the Nazi machine were recycled into American and British Cold War posture against the Soviet Union. It is a truly damning legacy that American and British military intelligence agencies were consolidated and financed by Nazi crimes.

The recent release of UN Holocaust files – in spite of American and British prevarication over many years – add more evidence to the historical analysis that these Western powers were deeply complicit in the monumental crimes of the Nazi Third Reich. They knew about these crimes because they had helped facilitate them. And the complicity stemmed from Western hostility towards Russia as a perceived geopolitical rival.

This is not a mere historical academic exercise. Western complicity with Nazi Germany also finds a corollary in the present-day ongoing hostility from Washington, Britain and their NATO allies towards Moscow. The relentless build up of NATO offensive forces around Russia’s borders, the endless Russophobia in Western propagandistic news media, the economic blockade in the form of sanctions based on tenuous claims, are all deeply rooted in history.

The West’s Cold War towards Moscow preceded the Second World War, continued after the defeat of Nazi Germany and persists to this day regardless of the fact that the Soviet Union no longer exists. Why? Because Russia is a perceived rival to Anglo-American capitalist hegemony, as is China or any other emerging power that undermines that desired unipolar hegemony.

American-British collusion with Nazi Germany finds its modern-day manifestation in NATO collusion with the neo-Nazi regime in Ukraine and jihadist terror groups dispatched in proxy wars against Russian interests in Syria and elsewhere. The players may change over time, but the root pathology is American-British capitalism and its hegemonic addiction.

The never-ending Cold War will only end when Anglo-American capitalism is finally defeated and replaced by a genuinely more democratic system.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/09/17 07:04 PM

My comment : This is a nice witness of a gifted entrepreneur that found himself working for the Elites Bankers. The information he shares is amazing. How he was good in recycling money into the system by creating an allusion to the people below and keeping the Elites hands cleans. How they operated in the international level. How he got introduced to Luciferian circle. How his conscience needed to be in the "deepfreeze". How his conscience gotten awaken. How his body totally shut down after the breaking point. Very informative in all levels.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/09/17 07:24 PM

My comment : Below is another great witness from an ex-CIA who wrote to Stephen Jones.

Letter from an ex-CIA officer
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/05-2017/letter-from-an-ex-cia-officer/
May 9th, 2017

Originally Posted By: Stephen Jones
This is what he wrote to me recently. He gave me permission to post it:

Originally Posted By: ex CIA letter
As the CIA is not a law enforcement organization we could only send our information "up the line." When Janet Reno was Attorney General I was formally warned to back off concerning a counter-narcotics operation that I was running (and had been running for more than a year).

When I persisted, my supervisor called me in to tell me that he had been instructed by the Office of General Counsel within the agency that if I did not heed the warning I could be looking at jail time. When I protested that I was not breaking any agency regulations, my supervisor (who was senior grade) said, "[Name], I've seen this sort of thing before and I hate it, but you cannot win this battle."

I was still a junior officer. As I became more senior I became very aware of senior U.S. judges, Congressmen, state and federal attorneys general and military officers with two stars or more being involved in not merely illegal activities but absolute squalor. Unfortunately, almost all U.S. ambassadors I knew were the same.

In time I reached the point that I basically did not trust anyone in the government that was at the level of "Executive Grade" (all ambassadors, three and four star generals, etc.); certainly I did not trust any senior congressmen and I especially distrusted those that were appointed as head of any government agency or administration.

I had come to the conclusion that all of these that I knew were corrupt, had a vice (narcotics use, pedophilia, occult practices, etc.) and that vice was used to "hook" them while they were relatively junior in their work. Once they had been hooked, then they were promoted and, of course, under the control of those that had hooked them.

I genuinely believe that at one time the CIA (and probably the Pentagon and a few other agencies) was relatively free of this, but that changed during the Clinton administration, when the various appointed agency directors brought with them into their respective agencies entire cadres of "suddenly senior" officials and salted them throughout the agencies. CIA still has some of these now very senior officers within its ranks, and they are in positions now where they can both promote and protect their criminal acts.

I was not alone in my beliefs regarding this, as every field officer I spoke to about this felt the same way, and we were aware that there was nothing that we could do about it. Whistleblowers were either indicted on false charges and jailed and/or harassed to the point that they took their own lives.

And mainstream media has, of course, always been there to ensure that these crimes and criminals remain protected... that's what mainstream media is for, after all. And most people simply do not want to believe that their own government could be so utterly depraved and wicked... especially Christians do not want to believe this.

Were it not for Jesus in my life I would have taken that life a long time ago….

Further to this, I spent close to eight years within the agency targeting organized crime in foreign countries (all of it Latin America). Organized crime included pretty much everything (narcotics, people trafficking, white slavery, money laundering, etc.). I once asked a senior very seasoned DEA country chief why it was that everyone knew of the Medellin Cartel, or the Cali Cartel, or the Guadalajara Cartel but nobody knew about the Chicago Cartel, or the Los Angeles Cartel, or the Miami Cartel. I knew the answer, of course, but wanted to hear what he would say.

He was upfront about it and said: "[Name], for every corrupt cop, every corrupt politician, every corrupt judge, every corrupt Army officer there is in Latin America, we have their same corrupt counterparts in every major city in the U.S." This guy used to work in Memphis and then was the DEA OIC in New Orleans before he came to Latin America. The reason he switched to working the Latin America mission was, as he told me, so he could finally hope to see some major cartel being brought down... he knew it would never happen in the U.S. because their protection was too strong.


This is why we engage in spiritual warfare. We could not hope to win by fighting these Babylonian criminals on their own turf. It is good to know that we are on the winning side, although our training period has taken place during the time of corruption that operates invisibly all around us. This is “the swamp” that President Trump says he wants to drain. Even as president, he does not have the power to do this. It can be done only by the power of the Holy Spirit that must be poured out upon the earth in a big way. I believe this is coming soon.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/09/17 08:39 PM

My comment : I think Preston & Harris are quite courageous to say things that Christians prefer to block their ears from hearing about this.

There's things I think they lacks some info & discernment concerning the different groups of Jewish believers that was formed at different time in history having different paths and which one are behind the Elites today. I do agree that the Talmudic Babylonian practices in the Khazarian Jews has a great play in this end time scenario; but there's another group that stemmed from the time of the Maccabees war that resulted in the unification of two nations into one : Edomites (Essau's progeny) fused with the house of Judah (that the leaders probably were practicing Talmudic Babylonism in secret). In terms of prophetic fulfillment, I'm more interested in to know about the other group (Edom-Judah) involvement than the Khazarian Jews.

Overall I think their discernment are pretty good and I appreciated to read about the historical accounts of what happened in Russia.

Time to start defending Christianity (Part I)
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/03/23/time-to-start-defending-christianity-part-i/

by Preston James and Mike Harris

March 23rd, 2017

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It's time for the American Christian Churches to wake up and understand that they are under sinister long-term attack from a Babylonian Talmudic agenda.

Christianity is under onslaught by an age-old plan to infiltrate it, to hijack it, neutralize it, use it to further a Zionist Global NWO Agenda and then to destroy it. Unless Christians begin to understand how they have been misinformed, this attack will continue to erode their ranks of believers until Christianity is dis-empowered, reduced and then eliminated.

In 1917 the horrific slaughter of Eastern Orthodox Christian Priests and their parishioners began as the Bolshevik Communists unleashed their well-financed and supported revolution in Russia.

Their initial actions also involved burning down hundreds of Eastern Orthodox Christian churches as fast as they could get to them, one after another as they moved their new Peoples’ army inward into Russia.

In one day alone, approximately 80,000 Eastern Orthodox clergy and church members were executed by the Bolshevik Communists.

This blatant, deadly attack on the Russian Christian Church was progressive and spread inward through Russia and was one of the first major goals of the Bolshevik Communists — to label Christians as subversives, murder them and destroy their churches.

Want to trace the pattern that the Bolshevik Communist revolution spread into Russia beginning in 1917?

Just map out the Russian Orthodox Christian Churches they destroyed; and the spread of Bolshevik Communism in Russia beginning in 1917 parallels this.

As long as the Christian Church is strong and maintains a proper scriptural basis, the USA cannot be destroyed by this same group of bankers that created Bolshevik Communism and invaded Russia with it in 1917.

The main motivation of the top several City of London bankers who created Bolshevik communism and deployed it as a “Peoples’ Revolution” in Russia in 1917 was actually a strong desire to eradicate Christianity from the world.

This attack on Russia was to be the first step, followed by the take-down of Europe, then America and then China, then Malaysia and then Japan.

Thus the Bolshevik revolution in Russia in 1917 was nothing less than a well-planned agenda to eradicate Christianity and God from Russia.

The Bolshevik Communist leaders believe that, in order to transform Russia into a Communist totalitarian society with them in charge as a dictatorial group at the top, they had to eradicate Christianity completely and make the new Communist state itself god.

There was total stripping and theft of any from the Churches, Christians by the Bolshevik Communists as they were mass-murdered.

These Bolshevik communist leaders stole all the gold cups, art and valuables from the churches and from Christians and kept it for themselves. They also stole all the Tsar’s family crown jewels, art and gold and any valuables they could find anywhere in Russia.

It wasn’t long before these several top Bolshevik Communist leaders had accrued immense, almost incalculable fortunes and taken their wealth to other nations, such as Switzerland to place in secret, numbered accounts.

Now if you think this couldn’t happen in America to American Christians, you had better carefully consider the evidence we are going to present in this four-part series.

America is rapidly becoming the new Soviet Union, while under Putin’s direction the new Russian Republic is experiencing a complete rebuilding of the Eastern Orthodox Christian Churches and Christianity. Putin has formed a strategic partnership with the Russian Christian church and is creating an environment where it can flourish. Why would he do this? Because he believes that in order for Russia to become a strong, successful nation, the people (especially the young folks) need to be morally upright.

This same pattern occurred when Mao and his communists took over China after WW2.

Mao and his cronies had been placed in power by the same secret group that built up and supported placed Lenin and his Bolshevik Communist cronies, a small western-based group that had unlimited support from the City of London Rothschild private Fiat Bankers and their American franchisees, the large Wall Street banks.

This pattern of communist puppets, well-financed by these Western banks run out of the City of London, is well-established; and the pattern has occurred in Russia, China, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. In each case, the Christian church was first outlawed, the clergy and members were either persecuted or mass-murdered, and their assets stripped and put into the pockets of a small number of communist leaders.

The folks who created Bolshevism intended to take it westward from Russia, and then eastward too, and eventually eradicate Christianity from the whole Earth. This was always their main motivation for deploying Bolshevist Communism and any kind of major, state-based totalitarian socialism, even in kinder friendlier forms.

The socialism rolled out in Europe and Scandinavia was designed to only serve as an intermediate step to be quickly dissolved by the massive, repeated deployment of false-flag terror, which is what is happening now with all the importation of radical Islamics, many of whom have been mind-kontrolled.

The folks who started and ran Bolshevism have planned to deploy this same playbook here in America, as soon as they are able to do it.

After their incredibly successful acquisition and asset-stripping of Russia in 1917, and complete neutralization of the Russian churches, and the mass murder of almost every Christian priest and Christian believer, the Bolshevik Communists planned to move westward and repeat this process in every single European nation. It was the Nazis that stopped their advance.

But after WW2, the same private Western Banks run out of the City of London continued providing massive support to these Russian Communists, and began plans to take America down that same road, using socialism as an initial entry point.

The leaders of these large western banks who were supporting Bolshevism (Communism) all over the world secretly, began a long-term program to transform America into a socialist state, with an ever increasing centralization of power. They have used the war on drugs and other actual shooting wars that they have engineered by deploying false-flag attacks, as in the Gulf of Tonkin, which was later admitted by then-Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara to have never happened as reported.

These engineered shooting wars since WW2 (including Korea, Vietnam, and all the Mideast wars) have been completely illegal, unconstitutional, undeclared, unwinnable, perpetual and have been a great means to generate huge profits for the banks, the defense contractors and the 66 families that own their major blocks of stock.

The bottom line to this series is: the folks who started and supported the Bolshevik Communists’ takeover in Russia whose first task was to destroy the Christian churches, and murder the Priests and all Christians are now deploying the very same playbook here in America; but they are doing it slower, more progressively and just as well-financed.
Why would any Christian believe this group who runs the big banks and has financed Bolshevism would not follow through with their plans to progressively eradicate Christianity from Planet Earth, which includes here in America?

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Duplicity and Depravity – Satanic Twins

For the last 500 years there has been a secret plan deployed against Christianity to eradicate it, and in the last 100 years great progress has been accomplished in this goal.

In this article you will learn what the origins of this long-term, secret plan to destroy Christianity are, why they developed in the first place, what secret occult group is behind it, and what this secret plan is comprised of.

You will learn how far this secret plan has advanced in the last 100 years and what must be done to stop it before all Christianity is eradicated from planet Earth.

You will learn how this plan is just the first stepping stone to eradicating any an all religions and moral standards from Planet Earth in order to transform humanity into a humanistic society based on moral relativism that is, situational defined morality with no absolute moral standards of right and wrong.



And this is all being done hidden in plain sight, without most Christians even being aware of what is being taken from them. And it is being done subtly by influencing the doctrines of American Christian Churches to conform to a false doctrine that upon first consideration seems reasonable, positive and even appears to be true.

This is the false doctrine of Christian Zionism, the belief that Jews should return to the Holy Land and re-establish ancient Biblical Israel, which was the source of Jesus Christ and Christianity in the first place.

There are numerous problems with this ideology that most American Christians just do not understand. Before we dissect the ways this ideology is seriously flawed and harmful, first we must understand it.

Typically most American Christian Churches teach that, since Jesus was a Jew, the source of Christianity and therefore Jews today, especially those in Israel, are our brothers and sisters – part of the same family – and deserve support no matter what.

This ideology extends to the typical Christian belief that Israel as a nation-state must be supported, no matter what, and that it is okay for Israelis to take land from the Palestinians to build new settlements, since supposedly God gave it to the Jews in the first place, and it is their ancestral right.

There are many falsities associated with this doctrine of Christian Zionism. Let’s list the prominent ones here. These were never supposed to be exposed publicly.
1. A recent peer reviewed genetic study from John Hopkins by a Jewish MD showed that approximately 97.5% of Israeli Jews living in Israel have absolutely NO Hebrew blood at all and are from ancient Khazaria in Eastern Europe, now the Ukraine. And some were called Ashkenazis and ARE NOT Semites at all, while approximately 80% of the Palestinians have ancient Hebrew blood and are true Semites. This has secretly been admitted to in the highest echelons of the Israeli government and was leaked in a largely ignored article.


Anti-Zionist Torah Jews in London, March 2017

2. Zionism originated as a secular Judaic social movement and most Orthodox and hard-core Torah (Old Testament Judaics) do not accept it as true and believe that the resettlement of Israel by the British Balfour proclamation beginning in 1947 was wrong because it was un-scriptural.

3. These Torah-believing Judaics, mostly Orthodox, believe that God divorced the Hebrews for their continued sin and worship of false gods and unwillingness to listen to the prophets that God sent to warn them. They do not believe that Judaics have any ancestral right to the land of Palestine because of this divorce described in Jeremiah 3, verse 8:

“And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also (KJV).”

4. The Bible refers to Israel as God’s Chosen People as a genetic group, which were called the Hebrews, but He divorced them for their continued sin and lack of repentance and the promised land he gave them was called Palestine. After God divorced the Hebrews who had been His chosen people which He selected to use to reveal his very presence to the world, he grafted in the gentiles to become his new Chosen People according to New Testament bible scripture, while promising to maintain a remnant of Hebrew to bring forth later and once again reveal Himself to.

5. When God divorced the Hebrews, the tribes split up from one nation into two, the northern ten tribes which were called “Israel” and a separate nation of the remaining two tribes called Judah, since that part of Palestine was called Judea. After Jesus’ crucifixion, the Roman Caesar ordered the Hebrew nation and their Temple to be destroyed because of their continued rebellions. The Hebrews scattered and migrated to many places all over Europe.

6. Committed Torah Judaics reject the Babylonian Talmudism, the Kabbalah and other mystical texts and declare the Torah (Old Testament of the Bible to be Supreme) and follow it, often to the letter of the law. Because they do not accept Jesus Christ (who was of Hebrew blood) to be their messiah, they are still awaiting the appearance of the true messiah and do expect him to come.



7. When the Hebrews were captured by the Babylonians and taken into captivity, a small select group of their top, elite leaders had started worship the Babylonian God Baal, and became involved in the worship rituals, which provided them with strange mystical powers. When their captivity ended, these secret Black arts of Baal-worship were continued by a small group within the top Hebrew religious leaders, who were called the Pharisees.

These black occult arts were practiced in secret, because otherwise the practitioners would have been exposed and executed by their own fellow Hebrews and the Romans, who occupied Judea. This practice of the black occult arts of Babylonian Talmudism (secret Baal worship) involved periodic child sacrifice to the false-god Baal, and in return these practitioners of the black, satanic arts received power over the masses, riches and status.

8. This satanic cult of Babylonian Talmudism was practiced by the few top leaders of the Nation Khazaria very secretly. Khazaria had become a very evil nation because its leaders were so evil, due to their secret worship of Baal and their secret Child sacrifice to Baal. They had become known as a nation of crooks, con artists, road robbers, murderers and identity thieves.

Their crimes against travelers and those living near their border became so frequent and so outrageous that the Persians and Russian leaders threatened to destroy Khazaria if the ruler did not select one of the Abrahamic religions as the national religion for Khazaria. Khazarian King Bulah then responded and accepted Judaism as the official Khazarian religion. He did this because historically a small group of Pharisees had secretly practiced Babylonian Paganism (Baal worship) while hiding behind their official roles as Pharisees (leaders of the Hebrew Synagogue in Judea (Palestine).



9. The fact that Khazaria as a nation began to practice Judaism as their national religion did not in any way cause the Khazarian people to clean up their act. Their crimes continued, and eventually the Russian Ruler ordered their destruction. Before this happened, the top Khazarian leaders who practice this satanic Babylonian Talmudism escaped to other European nations and took the vast wealth with them, which they had accrued as the leaders of a large organized crime theft, robber ring they ran in Khazaria.

As incredulous as it seems, these Babylonian Talmudics had actually “sold their souls to Satan” by making a blood contract with Satan in order to receive vast wealth, vast power and great social status. The Khazarian leaders kept these black arts within their family systems and shared them only with certain selected initiates who were also willing to sell their souls to Satan and go through certain initiations.

10. One thing that these top Khazarian Babylonian Talmudic Satan-worshipers have been known for is their total commitment to revenge. These family lines (called “the Bloodlines”) have maintained a strong commitment for revenge against both Russia and Persia. This revenge was first enacted against Russia in 1917 by the creation of Communism, done by the Babylonian Talmudic City of London Rothschild private central bankers and the large wall street banks supporting Bolshevism.

The first acts of Bolsheviks when invading Russia in 1917 were to destroy the Christian Churches and murder the priests. They felt this was essential to taking control of the whole nation and viewed Christianity as a complete enemy of their collective, communist state and therefore made it illegal.

11. Ever since they took control of the money creation and distribution of most major nations, including America, the Babylonian Talmudists have practiced the ancient, secret Babylonian Talmudic black art of making money from nothing by charging people to use their money and charging pernicious usury, which is illegal in the Bible.

12. Because this small group of these Satanic Babylonian Talmudic leaders, who were the “money-changers” of the modern world, could create all the money they wanted, they have been able to buy up almost every single politician and government official and have been able to set most, if not all, US Governmental policies and control Congress.



13. Because these satanic Babylonian Talmudic Money-changers were presenting themselves as Jewish to maintain cover, they quickly learned they could con American Christians and most Judaics by claiming to be God’s chosen people and manipulating the British Government in 1947 to declaring that the land of Palestine was to become Israel, the rightful land of the Jews.

14. The big secret here is that most Judaics today are actually secular and practice Judaism only for family-related rituals. And over 97% of the Judaics who migrated to Palestine after WW2 have NO ancient Hebrew blood, and thus the British claim that they have an ancestral blood right to the land is a falsehood. These present-day Khazarian leaders are much like the Pharisees who worked and plotted so hard to crucify Jesus Christ. Jesus called the Pharisees that plotted against him the Synagogue of Satan”.


Entrenched Satanism guides many governments

15. These very powerful Babylonian Talmudics run a very large but secret worldwide satanic cult network today and are also best referred to the Synagogue of Satan. But let us be clear that this is a very small group of evil cult leaders who have enormous power and influence over many governments of the world, including the US Government.

They have infiltrated most large American churches by disguising them as sheep, but are actually ravenous wolves hard at work to misdirect Christianity and make it powerless and cause it to shrink in numbers. These satanic cult leaders are crafty and have conned many Jews into believing their lies that Judaics have an ancient blood right to own and occupy the land of Palestine.

16. Anyone who studies the facts will quickly conclude this is an enormous lie and a crafty deception originating from Satan himself, designed to deceive. Anyone who criticizes the modern-day Zionists, most of whom are Khazarians and thus NOT of ancient Hebrew blood, are severely criticized and accused of being anti-Semitic.

How can someone be accused of being anti-Semitic if those they are criticizing are not even Semites because they have no Hebrew blood and are actually of Khazarian bloodline? This irrational, false accusation of anti-Semitism leveled against anyone who criticizes any Jewish person (most of whom are secular Khazarian Judaics) or criticizes Israel is instantly leveled, with the notably false charge of being anti-Semitic.

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Conclusion

Normally any discussion of how the Babylonian Talmudic Khazarian leaders became the modern-day Synagogue of Satan is prohibited, because these leaders of this worldwide Satanic Network use their spokesmen to immediately cry “you are an anti-Semite”. Then they claim that any such continued criticism will result in new persecution of the Jews. In many nations, it is a crime to even criticize the Jew or any Jewish issue for any reason.


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America Land of Abundance — “If we get caught they will just replace us with persons of the same cloth. So it does not matter what you do, America is a golden calf and we will suck it dry, chop it up, and sell it off piece by piece until there is nothing left but the world’s biggest welfare state that we will create and control. Why? Because it is the will of God, and America is big enough to take the hit so we can do it again and again and again. This is what we do to countries that we hate. We destroy them very slowly and make them suffer for refusing to be our slaves.” ~ Binyamin Netanyahu

Actually, the term “Jew” was not used until about 750 AD and became associated with the secular practice of Judaism in Khazaria. The Khazarian leaders during this period were very aggressive and have passed their evil practices down through their bloodline, and also to new recruit bloodlines they have initiated into their secret satanic cult.

This kind of aggressive lie imposed as a muzzle on any discussion of the reality of the existence of the secret Babylonian Talmudic cult also known as the Illuminati, the Synagogue of Satan, the Black Sun, the order of the Snake, the Olympiads, and many more, has prevented any open honest discussion within the American Christian Church.

This must change. And here at Veterans Today, we are committed to open source Intel and telling it like it is, letting the chips fall where they must.

It is high time the American Christian churches wake up, face the truth about the age-old secret Babylonian Talmudic plan to destroy Christianity. This means American Christians must realize that they have been falsely indoctrinated with Christian Zionism and stop allowing a secret satanic cult to neutralize the Gospel of Jesus Christ and prevent them from presenting the true Christ the way that Jesus lived it, as our saving grace and the certain means to peace, joy and an eternal life.

The bottom line is this. The same secret group of the world’s most power financiers, a secret group of a small number of the City of London bankers and their stateside franchisees of the largest Wall Street Banks are still hard at work and deeply committed to eradicate Christianity and Christians from America.

When they do this in any nation, based on their history, we know that they mass-murder all Christian clergy and believers, including women and children and steal all their assets for themselves. They transform the state to become the peoples’ new god, after they have destroyed or neutralized all Christianity.
These Babylonian Talmudics are in the process of secretly rolling out this same plan here inside America, and it is up to all Christians and anyone who believes in freedom of religion to stand up and stop this sinister plan, which is best described as political correctness, diversity, open borders and the destruction of a common American language (English) and a common American culture.

We must all work together to defend Christianity from eradication. It is now time to work together to expose these Babylonian Talmudics and their evil satanic playbook in order to do this.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/10/17 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : Looks like another "Deep State" [aka Mystery Babylon] occupied country is being released by "the PEOPLE"! Where the citizens are kicking out of office the Deep State's pup-pets rulers. I'm happy to see this occuring in South Korea right now with all the tension developping between China and the Deep State which are using North Korea and South Korea as their pions! Well at least that's my discernment of it.

Entering The Age of Governmental Change!

So by the end of 2017 we might have at least 7 western countries in total where the people voted to regain their Country's Sovereignty and be freed from the evil Octopus!

List of Nations regaining their Sovereignty!
#1. -- Great Britain (in 2016)
#2. -- the USA (in 2016)
------------- coming in 2017 --------------------------
#3. -- The Netherlands, March 15, 2017
#4. -- France, April 23, 2017
#5. -- South Korea ("snap shot election" on May 9, 2017)
#6. -- Italy, no later than May 23, 2017
#7. -- Germany, September 24, 2017

To give some updates.

The French Election
In France election, Mystery Babylon couldn't afford to loose as it would of jeopardize too much their EU. Since their other candidates wasn't doing well against Marine LePen; they added a NEW candidate at the last minute called Macron. A handsome young man from the Rothschild family tree that was a Bankster. All of sudden he's into politic and the election is between him and LePen. (see news link : Emmanuel Clinton[Macron] and the Revolt of the Elites]).

As expected, the French election was rigged and he won by taking 66% of the votes. (see news link [here : How to attempt to steal an Election NWO in France Style (Spoiler : "send out twice as many ballots for the candidate you want to win and tear the ballots of the candidate you want to lose"). Can't be more obvious than that.

The South Korean Election

So the Elites won in placing their man in France; however, they lost in South Korea's election. Remember just in March, S.Korea's president got sent to jail for corruption (see Post #182748. Well they already had their election. The man they elected, is for uniting with N.Korea and starting to say NO to the USA. That's going to change the geopolitical scenes as S.Korea won't be manipulated as much to be a War pions anymore in the US hands against China. In the article below, it says that "South Koreans demand court injunction to block THAAD deployment". The setting up the THAAD was N.Korea's issue (& China's).

New president wants South Korea to learn to say 'no to America,’ improve relations with Kim Jong-un
https://www.rt.com/news/387798-south-korea-election-president/
May 9th, 2017

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South Korea has just elected a liberal president who favors rebuilding tattered relations with neighboring North Korea, which could signal a policy shift and mute heightened saber-rattling on the peninsula.

On the campaign trail Moon Jae-in promised to offer a more active diplomatic approach to North Korea centered around more open dialogue with Pyongyang.

Moon, a former human rights lawyer, won 41.4 percent of the vote on Tuesday.


The president-elect also said that he would not allow North Korea to advance its nuclear programme, while criticizing the last two governments for failing to stop its development, saying the hardline policy employed over the last decade has not worked.

Moon also campaigned on a National Interest First policy and wrote in a book, published in January, that South Korea should learn to say “no to America.”

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Should South Korea employ a new approach with its northern neighbour, it could complicate the 2016 agreement between the US and Seoul to deploy a Terminal High Altitude Area Defence (THAAD) system in the country.

“South Korea should be more independent from the United States because of its containment policy in North-East Asia, and also the United States wanted South Korea to be sort of a bulwark against communism,” Simone Chun of the Korea Peace Network told RT.

“I think that perspective has to change,” she continued.

“People are right now strongly demanding new policies and change, so there I think that the US should also take a different perspective... which means respecting sovereignty and giving more power to the new South Korean president to take the initiative.”

“South Korea can take initiative and be proactive in implementing new policy which can lead toward peace and stability in the Korean peninsula,” added Chun.

Moon is replacing his predecessor Park Geun-hye who was impeached in March over corruption charges.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/10/17 07:56 PM

My comment: Very encouraging and realistic article about the new President of South Korea who is elected to return to their countries role in balancing East & West and getting closer with North Korea. Great news!

South Korea: Rising Moon of the East

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"The election of South Korean President Moon Jae-in presents a historic opportunity for the country to earn its rightful place [b]in the Multipolar Century.

"The contemporary global situation has markedly shifted as the world undergoes the lengthy transition from unipolarity to multipolarity, yet South Korea's relationship with the US remains mostly unchanged, and this is holding it back from realizing its full geopolitical potential.

"Even worse, they've put South Korea's pragmatic relationship with China in jeopardy in order to satisfy Washington's grand strategic objectives vis-a-vis Beijing and Moscow with THAAD.

"Moon, however, pledged to change all of that, campaigning on a broad platform, which emphasized sovereignty for South Korea and equality with each of its partners. He was also voted into office because he ran on an anti-corruption ticket promising to dismantle the influence that family-run megacorporations exert over the government, partially the reason why former President Park Geun-hye was impeached for abuse of power.

"...he immediately said that he'd be a "president for the people" following news that he won the election by a landslide. Accordingly, should Moon succeed in his stated agenda, then he has the chance to historically redefine South Korea's place on the world stage and turn it into a powerful multipolar actor in Asian affairs.

"Chaebols" is the Korean term for large family-owned multinational corporations, which have come to dominate the country's economic scene and have subsequently turned into discrete political powers in their own right. In fact, it was a chaebol scandal with Samsung that was one of the many reasons why South Korea's former leader was deposed of on corruption charges. The average Korean is sick and tired of the hidden hand that these companies play over their lives, and they believe that Moon is their man to finally end it once and for all.

"South Koreans want to experience a real democracy, not a corporatocracy, and they've finally "woken up" to the systemic problems facing their country and united behind Moon as their best hope to change them.

"If Moon is serious about having South Korea emerge from the US' shadow, then he absolutely needs to carry through on his word to seek a rapprochement with North Korea.

"The only realistic solution is for Moon to embrace the Chinese proposal that the US and South Korea halt their large-scale war games in exchange for North Korea suspending its nuclear program.

"For that to happen, however, South Korea must earn a reputation for neutrality and fair play, and it can only do that by distancing itself from the US' unipolar plans against China and Russia. This requires reviving the Sunshine Policy (and eventually Moscow's plans for a Korean Corridor) and relatedly reining in the US' military privileges on the peninsula, and if South Korea's new president can succeed in these tasks without first being stopped by the pro-US chaebol "deep state," then he'll go down in history for making his country the rising Moon of the East in the Multipolar Century.


https://sputniknews.com/columnists/201705101053455604-south-korea-rising-moon-east/

by Andrew Korybko

May 10th, 2017
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The election of South Korean President Moon Jae-in presents a historic opportunity for the country to earn its rightful place in the Multipolar Century.

South Korea is widely applauded for being one of the Four Asian Tigers which drove regional economic growth for decades during the Old Cold War, but despite its impressive prosperity, the country has lived under the US' shadow the entire time. The contemporary global situation has markedly shifted as the world undergoes the lengthy transition from unipolarity to multipolarity, yet South Korea's relationship with the US remains mostly unchanged, and this is holding it back from realizing its full geopolitical potential.

While it's true that the government did in fact pursue somewhat of an independent "Sunshine Policy" of rapprochement towards North Korea from 1998-2008, the conservative authorities which have led the country for roughly the decade since have largely dismantled any positive progress from that time. Even worse, they've put South Korea's pragmatic relationship with China in jeopardy in order to satisfy Washington's grand strategic objectives vis-a-vis Beijing and Moscow with THAAD.

Moon, however, pledged to change all of that, campaigning on a broad platform, which emphasized sovereignty for South Korea and equality with each of its partners. He was also voted into office because he ran on an anti-corruption ticket promising to dismantle the influence that family-run megacorporations exert over the government, partially the reason why former President Park Geun-hye was impeached for abuse of power.


South Korea's new leader basically branded himself as a breath of fresh air in a stale political climate, and true to his populist positions, he immediately said that he'd be a "president for the people" following news that he won the election by a landslide. Accordingly, should Moon succeed in his stated agenda, then he has the chance to historically redefine South Korea's place on the world stage and turn it into a powerful multipolar actor in Asian affairs.

Here are the three promises Moon has to deliver on if he hopes to achieve that.

Reform the Chaebol System

"Chaebols" is the Korean term for large family-owned multinational corporations, which have come to dominate the country's economic scene and have subsequently turned into discrete political powers in their own right. In fact, it was a chaebol scandal with Samsung that was one of the many reasons why South Korea's former leader was deposed of on corruption charges. The average Korean is sick and tired of the hidden hand that these companies play over their lives, and they believe that Moon is their man to finally end it once and for all.

Just as Trump is finding out when it comes to making good on his signature slogan to "drain the swamp," Moon is going to have a very difficult time reforming the chaebol system and purging its influence from politics. There are very clear constitutional constraints to what he can do, and his party doesn't have enough parliamentary support to push through his agenda without entering a legislative quagmire full of complicated deal making and concessions. Moon wants to be a force of systemic change in his country, but the system might be much too powerful for one man alone to change.

The reason why he wants to reform the domestic status quo in South Korea is because it's evident to any savvy politician that the populist anti-chaebol sentiment in the country isn't going away anytime soon, and that it was already powerful enough to bring hundreds of thousands of people out into the street in pushing for the impeachment of the former president. South Koreans want to experience a real democracy, not a corporatocracy, and they've finally "woken up" to the systemic problems facing their country and united behind Moon as their best hope to change them.

Revive the Sunshine Policy

If Moon is serious about having South Korea emerge from the US' shadow, then he absolutely needs to carry through on his word to seek a rapprochement with North Korea. He used to be the chief of staff to former President Roh Moo-hyun who had executed the last five years of the decadelong Sunshine Policy, and Moon's campaign remarks have spoken favorably about reviving it in form. Therefore, whether it's called the same thing as before or something different this time around, South Korea's new leader must return to the policy set by his liberal predecessors and rely on it as the most pragmatic step needed to de-escalate the fearsome war mongering tensions prevalent in the peninsula nowadays.

North Korea didn't go crazy, just like the author explained in a previous Sputnik analysis from over a year ago, although it quite often goes overboard and is easily baited by the US in its reactions. Pyongyang has legitimate security threats, however, which include first and foremost the US' incessant saber rattling against it through live-fire war games right on its border. The reason why this unnerves North Korea so much is because such exercises could conveniently be used as a front for disguising an actual invasion of the country, and given Pyongyang's propensity to seemingly overreact to any provocation, it's both irresponsible and dangerous for the US to manipulate North Korea into this type of security dilemma.

South Korean artillery soldiers stand in front of the Hyunmoo Surface to Surface Missile during Armed Forces Day rehearsal, at the Seongnam military airport, outskirts of Seoul (File)

The only realistic solution is for Moon to embrace the Chinese proposal that the US and South Korea halt their large-scale war games in exchange for North Korea suspending its nuclear program. The previous caretaker government outright rejected this idea because it wanted to retain political consistency with its conservative-led predecessor, but the people voted for Moon precisely because they crave a radical change in their country's domestic and foreign policies. If he follows in Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte's footsteps by bravely downscaling certain dimensions of his country's military relationship with its mutual defense treaty ally, then it could go a long way towards also improving the deteriorating relations between Seoul and Beijing.
Rebalance Between East and West

South Korea, by virtue of its geographic position, always does best whenever it balances between East and West. For example, one of the main reasons why the country became an Asian Tiger in the first place is because its location allowed it to skillfully manage cheap Chinese labor and hefty amounts of Japanese capital, which proved to be the winning formula that South Korea needed in order to develop during the strict leadership of General Park. Everything was running smoothly enough until Seoul committed to hosting THAAD, and the system actually began to be deployed on its soil just recently, which both Beijing and Moscow viewed as setting a precedent for further anti-missile deployments that could eventually undercut their nuclear second-strike capabilities. Russia isn't in a position to influence South Korea, but China definitely is, and Beijing's economic countermeasures against Seoul (which for all intents and purposes could be regarded as "unofficial sanctions") have had a noticeable impact on its economy.

A Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) interceptor arrives at Osan Air Base in Pyeongtaek, South Korea, in this handout picture provided by the United States Forces Korea (USFK) and released by Yonhap on March 7, 2017. Picture taken on March 6, 2017

If Moon doubles down on a new Sunshine Policy and correspondingly backtracks on his predecessor's THAAD agreement (relying on the decision's disputed constitutionality as a plausible justification), then he can restore his country's all-around relations with China and turn South Korea into a much more strategic balancer between East and West than it was even before the missile crisis began. In a sense, Moon would just be taking a page out of Duterte's playbook in leveraging his country's geostrategic position between China and the US in order to reap the most dividends from both of them as they each fiercely compete for his loyalty.

By playing coy when it comes to the future of THAAD and large-scale war games with the US, Seoul could incite Beijing and Washington into an even wilder rivalry than the one presently playing out for his country, and this would only serve South Korea's ultimate benefit due to its international profile rising as a result and the state subsequently becoming one of the most geostrategic pivots in the world.

For that to happen, however, South Korea must earn a reputation for neutrality and fair play, and it can only do that by distancing itself from the US' unipolar plans against China and Russia. This requires reviving the Sunshine Policy (and eventually Moscow's plans for a Korean Corridor) and relatedly reining in the US' military privileges on the peninsula, and if South Korea's new president can succeed in these tasks without first being stopped by the pro-US chaebol "deep state," then he'll go down in history for making his country the rising Moon of the East in the Multipolar Century.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/12/17 01:46 AM

My comment : These past few days the Mainstream Media was obsess about the firing of Comey, the Director of the FBI. Well, due to his position he was compromised like many others and was used to stop any investigation that would reveals the Deep State's corruptions. With Comey out of the way, it's not going to be good news for Mystery Babylon at all; but good news for us.

Most likely Comey will be replaced with someone that can do the work and all these stalled investigations will be set in motion.

James Comey removal, is another very significant geopolitical game changer that happened these last few days.

Trump fires FBI Director James Comey
https://www.rt.com/usa/387794-fbi-director-comey-fired/
May 9th, 2017

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President Donald Trump has fired FBI Director James Comey at the recommendation of US Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, according to a White House announcement.
"The FBI is one of our Nation's most cherished and respected institutions and today will mark a new beginning for our crown jewel of law enforcement," said President Trump.

White House statement on firing of FBI Director James Comey by RT America on Scribd

“While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur with the judgment of the Department of Justice that you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau,” Trump told Comey in a letter.

The letter announcing the termination was hand-delivered to FBI headquarters by Keith Schiller, a Trump security aide, according to several reports citing a White House official.

A search for a new permanent FBI Director will begin immediately.

The firing of Comey comes days after he testified to Congress on investigations into alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 US election.

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Earlier Tuesday, the FBI wrote to Congress to correct misstatements Comey made regarding a separate investigation into Hillary Clinton's mishandling of classified information.

Comey had testified that top Clinton aide Huma Abedin had forwarded "hundreds and thousands" of emails to her husband, former New York Congressman Anthony Weiner, the FBI clarified that most of those emails had been on his laptop via backup devices, while only a few had been the result of forwarded emails, the Associated Press reported.

Comey reportedly heard of the news from TV reports while addressing FBI employees at the Los Angeles field office, according to New York Times reporter Michael Schmidt and New York Magazine reporter Yashar Ali. Comey was due to speak at an FBI recruiting event in Hollywood Tuesday evening, but that speech has been canceled.

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Rosenstein wrote that he could not defend "the Director's handling of the conclusion of the investigation of Secretary Clinton's emails, and I do not understand his refusal to accept the nearly universal judgment that he was mistaken."

"Almost everyone agrees that the Director made serious mistakes; it is one of the few issues that unites people of diverse perspectives," the deputy attorney general added in the memo to Attorney General Sessions.

Rosenstein cited the July 5, 2016 announcement by Comey that the probe into Clinton had concluded without prosecution, which Rosenstein said was not the function of an FBI director, but rather the DOJ.

Rosenstein called Comey's press conference "a textbook example of what federal prosecutors and agents are taught not to do."

US Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-California) said in a statement that Trump called her at 5:30pm and "indicated he would be removing Director Comey, saying the FBI needed a change." Feinstein added that "the next FBI director must be strong and independent and will receive a fair hearing in the Judiciary Committee," of which she is the ranking Democrat.

Acting as FBI director will be Andrew McCabe, who had been the deputy director under Comey. Attorney General Sessions is anticipated to name an interim replacement, while the process to confirm a permanent replacement takes shape.

Comey, 56, was appointed to head the FBI by former President Barack Obama in September 2013. FBI directors typically serve 10-year terms.

The only other time in US history an FBI director has been dismissed was in 1993, when President Bill Clinton and Attorney General Janet Reno pushed out William Sessions amid ethical concerns.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/12/17 01:56 AM

My comment : Nice to know about some good news going on in the US government. I have some more in my next post.

Good news in the US government

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/05-2017/good-news-in-the-us-government/
by Stephen Jones

May 10th, 2017

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In spite of the corruption in governments around the world, there are signs of good things happening in the midst of the bad stuff. Soon after his inauguration, President Trump called in some ministers who have been working with him and anointed various parts of the White House with prayers of cleansing. This was after hauling away all of the Muslim furnishings that his predecessor had used to dedicate the White House to Islam.

Simply put, this means that the White House is now dedicated to Jesus Christ, and not to Mohammed. But there might be also another side effect to this, one that runs deeper than most people can imagine.

Washington DC itself was built by Freemasons, who designed the streets in a 6-pointed star to picture their goat-god, Baphomet. The White House was situated in the place of the “mouth” of the goat, in order to establish the presidents as the spokesmen for Baphomet. Essentially, our capital city was dedicated to Baphomet in the 1790’s. I was not part of Trump’s ministerial team who dedicated the White House to Jesus Christ, but this suggests that its dedication to Baphomet may have been officially reversed last January, at least on a spiritual level. Things are changing.

Some of the people in the highest positions in the cabinet are now meeting for Bible study and prayer once a week.

http://www1.cbn.com/beltwaybuzz/archive/...-bible-together

Likewise, in the senate there are 25-30 senators who come to their own prayer breakfasts once a week. Barry Black, the senate chaplain, reports this:

Black also mentioned that the legislative process is adversarial. But he described how the weekly Bible studies he hosts are attended by members of both parties, despite their political differences.

Quote:
"The beauty of having 25 to 30 of them meeting at a prayer breakfast each week, having them meet again at a Bible study each week is they interact with one another and from time to time, you'll hear of the Gang of these are lawmakers from both sides who basically say enough is enough and they have sufficient spirituality to then become gadflies and ensure that the legislative branch functions as God intends for it to," said Black.

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/febr...state-to-christ

So the news is not all bad. I have no doubt that our prayers are being answered, even if the mainstream newspapers do not report it.

I understand that there are still many traditions of men being taught (and assumed to be true) in these Bible studies. They need greater light of revelation. But I would rather pray for them to receive this light than condemn them for not having it. I mean, why curse the darkness when we can light a candle? At least they are studying the Scriptures. As they seek to know truth, at some point God will give it to them, and I pray that with it will come hearts to receive it.

Perspective: Truth needs perspective. If truth is not accompanied by faith, it can be destructive and depressing. There are some whose mission is to educate everyone in all the bad things happening in their government. But such information, though helpful in many ways, is not the solution. At best, it might clarify the problem.

But over the years, I have found that too much “bad news,” however true, can generate fear and depression, rather than faith and joy. People can easily get the impression that God is losing this battle, and this can be a very depressing thought. My purpose is to strengthen you with faith and joy so that you can handle some of the bad news without being overthrown. I do not want to avoid the stark reality of the situation we find ourselves in today, as captives of Mystery Babylon. We do need to know what is going on, because the corruption is the very reason why God intends to overthrow Babylon. In other words, God is NOT being unjust in His judgments.

Nonetheless, a steady diet of bad news is unhealthy. Remember that Peter walked on water until he shifted his focus from Jesus to the wind and waves. Then he began to sink. We are all like Peter, and his lesson is for all of us. We need peripheral vision, but we need to focus on Jesus. We need to understand that there is a storm around us and that the danger is real, but we also need to walk on a firm foundation provided by Jesus Christ and His command to “Come.”
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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/12/17 03:15 AM

My comment : In the article at the bottom, we are seeing that the US & China are working together behind the scenes; while on the news it appears that a war is fermenting between the two. I guess this is call a "strategy" or a "bluff".

This past month, Trump's 180 degree turn with some war bullying actions surprised and discouraged many of his voters and supporters. I was starting to wonder myself; if we had another year before seeing some real changes worldwide in the economic restructure and reform sector.

But it looks like that the time has finally come. These past few days it appears that Trump is actually doing a 360 degree turn and is back on track with what he promised. So we might finally see the collapse of Babylon's economic System and transferring the world into the new economic system that China, the Eurasian nations and the BRICS nations has been working on since 2012.

Do note that the timing of these events are happening during the 2nd Passover that was on May 10th. So probably on May 14th (a wave Sheave watch date) we'll be hearing some more good eventful news.

May 9th: S. Korean President, who is on the good side, get's elected.
May 9th: Comey, head of FBI, got fired (article in post above)
May 10th : Trump went to Russia to meet with Lavrov.
May 10th : Trump call for an unscheduled meeting with Henry Kissinger, Mystery Babylon's main geopolitical guy.

Many speculate that these 4 recent moves appears to be quite indicative that it is the end game for Mystery Babylon and the time when everything will change by restructuring the world backed by the gold standard.

Here's Bix Weir impression & comments on these events with his preparation tips.


Here's the article below that show that on April 30th, China & the US were working together on the New Economic Silk Road that will favor world trading more efficiently.

Beijing Hires Princely Fox to Guard their OBOR Henhouse
http://journal-neo.org/2017/04/30/beijing-hires-princely-fox-to-guard-their-obor-henhouse/
April 30, 2017,

Quote:
The Chinese government newspaper, Global Times, made public that a Hong Kong-based company called Frontier Services Group (FSG) will build two operational bases in Northwest China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region and Southwest China’s Yunnan Province. Xinjiang and Yunnan provinces are at the heart or geographical pivot of China’s vast, developing One Bridge, One Road high-speed rail, port and energy pipeline infrastructure undertaking. What is notable about Beijing’s engaging this FSG security company, is its chairman.

The Chairman and principal operating executive of Frontier Services Group is the world’s most notorious mercenary, Erik Prince, founder of the now-defunct Blackwater Security. In an interview with the London Financial Times, Prince recently described his work with China stating, “We’re not serving Chinese foreign policy goals, we’re helping increase trade.” He added, “China trading with its neighbors and building infrastructure brings only benefits. We’re not serving Chinese foreign policy goals, we’re helping increase trade.” Prince goes on to insist, “This is not a Chinese version of Blackwater. FSG is a logistics company; we are not a security company. None of our people have been or will be armed. But security management is certainly part of the logistics process.”

Security management is euphemism for bodyguards. Maybe Prince’s people have mastered the martial arts skills of Jason Statham who never needs firearms. Or maybe he is a liar. In either case, it’s a major event that China makes Erik Prince, ex-Navy Seal, CIA asset and co-founder of the notorious Blackwater, as guardian of its strategic New Economic Silk Road.

CITIC

The relationship to the Chinese seems not at all minimal or uninformed. FSG’s largest investor is CITIC, an investment fund owned and controlled by the People’s Republic of China. CITIC owns 20% of Frontier Services Group. CITIC reportedly first met Erik Prince in 2013 when Prince was in Hong Kong looking for investors for his Africa security group. Along with Prince as board chairman, the board of FSG includes Dongyi Hua, who is tied with a subsidiary of CITIC, as Acting CEO. Dongyi Hua’s business address in Beijing is listed as CITIC Tower. Chun Shun Ko is Deputy Chairman at Frontier Services Group. Both are Chinese nationals based in Beijing.

The Chinese apparently first took notice of Prince because of his security work protecting oil and gas pipeline companies in conflict zones of Africa such as Nigeria against the al Qaeda-tied Boko Harem, as well as South Sudan where China has major oil investments. Now, in a March 21 interview in the Chinese state Global Times paper, Prince announced his FSG has been hired to build two of what the company calls “operational bases.” He stated that, “in late 2016, FSG expanded its geographic focus from purely Africa to include the Northwest and Southwest corridors of the One Belt and One Road initiative.” Erik Prince is responsible for security at the very heart of China’s One Belt, One Road project, a project that holds the promise of a positive alternative to the collapsing Atlantic world of NATO.

Prince stated in his interview with Global Times, “The Northwest corridor includes the countries of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Afghanistan and the Southwest corridor includes Myanmar, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia,” adding that “The planned new facility in China’s Yunnan Province will allow FSG to be able to better serve companies in the Southwest corridor. Subsequently, FSG will be opening a training facility in Xinjiang to serve businesses in the Northwest corridor.”

The FSG base in Northwest China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region will be in the heart of CIA-instigated Uyghur terrorism activities. Xinjiang is home to the CIA-fostered East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETIM) of Al Qaeda, active among Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang. Xinjiang itself is the crossroads of most major international oil and gas pipelines into China from Kazakhstan, Russia and elsewhere as well as domestic China oilfields. The second “operational base” will be in Southwest China’s Yunnan Province, where Kunming is the strategic hub of the entire Myanmar oil and gas pipelines and deep water port to the Indian Ocean as well as the emerging crossroads of the vast One Road, One Road high-speed rail infrastructure under construction that will reach to Singapore and all Southeast Asia.

In it for the money?

Erik Prince insists that he is not building a “Chinese Blackwater,” but merely making business with the Chinese in their vast trade project to provide corporate security and other services. He insists that none of the security personnel of FSG are armed.

For their side, the official China Global Times interviewed Chinese experts who defend the hiring the private corporate security company of Erik Prince. Wu Xinbo, director of the Center for American Studies at Fudan University, told the Global Times that “security services for Chinese overseas enterprises should be bolstered to better implement the One Belt and One Road initiative. It is advisable for China to draw experience from private US companies.” Li Jiang, director of the international affairs department in the China Security and Protection Group, an arm of China’s Ministry of Public Security, added that

“Chinese companies desperately need overseas protection services. Chinese security service companies lack advanced management theories.”

Advanced “management theories” in private mercenary killing is certainly Erik Prince’s stock in trade. His Blackwater Security was hired by the CIA during the Iraq war in contracts amounting to over $600 million. Blackwater co-founder was Jamie Smith, was a former CIA officer who became Vice President of Blackwater USA and Director of Blackwater Security Company. Cofer Black, Blackwater vice-chairman from 2006 to 2009, was formerly director of the CIA’s Counterterrorist Center. In short Prince’s operation is a private CIA, unrestricted by US government restraints on covert operations.

Blackwater became notorious for the Nisour Square massacre in September 2007, when Blackwater employees opened fire in a crowded square in Baghdad, killing 17 Iraqi civilians including children, and seriously wounding 20 more. Three guards were convicted of 14 manslaughter charges, and another of murder, in a US court. After that in 2010 he sold the company and regrouped under the name Academi. In 2010 Prince’s company received another $100 million to do work for the CIA. In 2009 it was revealed that he was part of a CIA task force commissioned to kill terrorists. He even was hired to provide security to the Langley, Virginia CIA headquarters.

Trump Ties

Interesting to note as well are Erik Prince’s ties to the Donald Trump Administration. Prince, who knows Trump personally, gave over $100,000 to Trump’s election. His sister, billionaire Betsy DeVos of the AmWay family, is Trump Administration Secretary of Education. More to the point is that Prince is close friend to White House Chief Strategist in the Trump administration, Steve Bannon. According to one former US senior official, Prince had even advised the Trump transition team before January 20 on matters related to intelligence and defense, “including weighing in on candidates for the Defense and State departments.” In addition to Bannon, Erik Prince is close friend of vice President Mike Pence, who as Vice President cast a rare tie-breaking vote in the 50-50 vote in the Senate that allowed Prince’s sister, Betsy DeVos, to become Education Secretary. Prince is also close with billionaire hedge fund operator Robert Mercer of Renaissance Technologies, a key financier of Trump’s election and of Brexit in the UK.

It can well be and is perhaps likely, that the Beijing authorities see two gains from hiring Erik Prince to run security on the critical arteries of China’s One Belt, One Road. One is the fact that Erik Prince is demonstrably one of the world experts at corporate security in terrorist-prone regions. And he knows techniques perhaps unfamiliar to Chinese security companies. The second reason could well be Erik Prince’s intimate ties with a Trump Administration that rhetorically campaigned on a hard anti-China theme, where Beijing hopes that Prince as their “friend” with direct ties to Trump people, might be able to mediate better relations with Washington.

If that is the case, Chinese authorities might reconsider whether in pursuit of those understandable goals, they have just sanctioned a sly and highly dangerous fox to guard the henhouse called the One Bridge, One Road. Erik Prince, a “former” CIA asset and world leading mercenary, is now in a position to provide Washington with the most intimate intelligence on the development of China’s New Economic Silk Road. As well, he could easily, were he inclined to be immoral, provide CIA terrorist handlers of groups such as ISIS or al Qaeda precise targets for future sabotage or disruption of the new Silk Road project.

F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook.”
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/12/17 11:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle


Here's the article below that show that on April 30th, China & the US were working together on the New Economic Silk Road that will favor world trading more efficiently.

Beijing Hires Princely Fox to Guard their OBOR Henhouse
http://journal-neo.org/2017/04/30/beijing-hires-princely-fox-to-guard-their-obor-henhouse/
April 30, 2017,

Quote:
The Chinese government newspaper, Global Times, made public that a Hong Kong-based company called Frontier Services Group (FSG) will build two operational bases in Northwest China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region and Southwest China’s Yunnan Province. Xinjiang and Yunnan provinces are at the heart or geographical pivot of China’s vast, developing One Bridge, One Road high-speed rail, port and energy pipeline infrastructure undertaking. What is notable about Beijing’s engaging this FSG security company, is its chairman.

The Chairman and principal operating executive of Frontier Services Group is the world’s most notorious mercenary, Erik Prince, founder of the now-defunct Blackwater Security. In an interview with the London Financial Times, Prince recently described his work with China stating, “We’re not serving Chinese foreign policy goals, we’re helping increase trade.” He added, “China trading with its neighbors and building infrastructure brings only benefits. We’re not serving Chinese foreign policy goals, we’re helping increase trade.” Prince goes on to insist, “This is not a Chinese version of Blackwater. FSG is a logistics company; we are not a security company. None of our people have been or will be armed. But security management is certainly part of the logistics process.”

Security management is euphemism for bodyguards. Maybe Prince’s people have mastered the martial arts skills of Jason Statham who never needs firearms. Or maybe he is a liar. In either case, it’s a major event that China makes Erik Prince, ex-Navy Seal, CIA asset and co-founder of the notorious Blackwater, as guardian of its strategic New Economic Silk Road.

CITIC

The relationship to the Chinese seems not at all minimal or uninformed. FSG’s largest investor is CITIC, an investment fund owned and controlled by the People’s Republic of China. CITIC owns 20% of Frontier Services Group. CITIC reportedly first met Erik Prince in 2013 when Prince was in Hong Kong looking for investors for his Africa security group. Along with Prince as board chairman, the board of FSG includes Dongyi Hua, who is tied with a subsidiary of CITIC, as Acting CEO. Dongyi Hua’s business address in Beijing is listed as CITIC Tower. Chun Shun Ko is Deputy Chairman at Frontier Services Group. Both are Chinese nationals based in Beijing.

The Chinese apparently first took notice of Prince because of his security work protecting oil and gas pipeline companies in conflict zones of Africa such as Nigeria against the al Qaeda-tied Boko Harem, as well as South Sudan where China has major oil investments. Now, in a March 21 interview in the Chinese state Global Times paper, Prince announced his FSG has been hired to build two of what the company calls “operational bases.” He stated that, “in late 2016, FSG expanded its geographic focus from purely Africa to include the Northwest and Southwest corridors of the One Belt and One Road initiative.” Erik Prince is responsible for security at the very heart of China’s One Belt, One Road project, a project that holds the promise of a positive alternative to the collapsing Atlantic world of NATO.

Prince stated in his interview with Global Times, “The Northwest corridor includes the countries of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Afghanistan and the Southwest corridor includes Myanmar, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia,” adding that “The planned new facility in China’s Yunnan Province will allow FSG to be able to better serve companies in the Southwest corridor. Subsequently, FSG will be opening a training facility in Xinjiang to serve businesses in the Northwest corridor.”

The FSG base in Northwest China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region will be in the heart of CIA-instigated Uyghur terrorism activities. Xinjiang is home to the CIA-fostered East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETIM) of Al Qaeda, active among Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang. Xinjiang itself is the crossroads of most major international oil and gas pipelines into China from Kazakhstan, Russia and elsewhere as well as domestic China oilfields. The second “operational base” will be in Southwest China’s Yunnan Province, where Kunming is the strategic hub of the entire Myanmar oil and gas pipelines and deep water port to the Indian Ocean as well as the emerging crossroads of the vast One Road, One Road high-speed rail infrastructure under construction that will reach to Singapore and all Southeast Asia.

In it for the money?

Erik Prince insists that he is not building a “Chinese Blackwater,” but merely making business with the Chinese in their vast trade project to provide corporate security and other services. He insists that none of the security personnel of FSG are armed.

For their side, the official China Global Times interviewed Chinese experts who defend the hiring the private corporate security company of Erik Prince. Wu Xinbo, director of the Center for American Studies at Fudan University, told the Global Times that “security services for Chinese overseas enterprises should be bolstered to better implement the One Belt and One Road initiative. It is advisable for China to draw experience from private US companies.” Li Jiang, director of the international affairs department in the China Security and Protection Group, an arm of China’s Ministry of Public Security, added that

“Chinese companies desperately need overseas protection services. Chinese security service companies lack advanced management theories.”

Advanced “management theories” in private mercenary killing is certainly Erik Prince’s stock in trade. His Blackwater Security was hired by the CIA during the Iraq war in contracts amounting to over $600 million. Blackwater co-founder was Jamie Smith, was a former CIA officer who became Vice President of Blackwater USA and Director of Blackwater Security Company. Cofer Black, Blackwater vice-chairman from 2006 to 2009, was formerly director of the CIA’s Counterterrorist Center. In short Prince’s operation is a private CIA, unrestricted by US government restraints on covert operations.

Blackwater became notorious for the Nisour Square massacre in September 2007, when Blackwater employees opened fire in a crowded square in Baghdad, killing 17 Iraqi civilians including children, and seriously wounding 20 more. Three guards were convicted of 14 manslaughter charges, and another of murder, in a US court. After that in 2010 he sold the company and regrouped under the name Academi. In 2010 Prince’s company received another $100 million to do work for the CIA. In 2009 it was revealed that he was part of a CIA task force commissioned to kill terrorists. He even was hired to provide security to the Langley, Virginia CIA headquarters.

Trump Ties

Interesting to note as well are Erik Prince’s ties to the Donald Trump Administration. Prince, who knows Trump personally, gave over $100,000 to Trump’s election. His sister, billionaire Betsy DeVos of the AmWay family, is Trump Administration Secretary of Education. More to the point is that Prince is close friend to White House Chief Strategist in the Trump administration, Steve Bannon. According to one former US senior official, Prince had even advised the Trump transition team before January 20 on matters related to intelligence and defense, “including weighing in on candidates for the Defense and State departments.” In addition to Bannon, Erik Prince is close friend of vice President Mike Pence, who as Vice President cast a rare tie-breaking vote in the 50-50 vote in the Senate that allowed Prince’s sister, Betsy DeVos, to become Education Secretary. Prince is also close with billionaire hedge fund operator Robert Mercer of Renaissance Technologies, a key financier of Trump’s election and of Brexit in the UK.

It can well be and is perhaps likely, that the Beijing authorities see two gains from hiring Erik Prince to run security on the critical arteries of China’s One Belt, One Road. One is the fact that Erik Prince is demonstrably one of the world experts at corporate security in terrorist-prone regions. And he knows techniques perhaps unfamiliar to Chinese security companies. The second reason could well be Erik Prince’s intimate ties with a Trump Administration that rhetorically campaigned on a hard anti-China theme, where Beijing hopes that Prince as their “friend” with direct ties to Trump people, might be able to mediate better relations with Washington.

If that is the case, Chinese authorities might reconsider whether in pursuit of those understandable goals, they have just sanctioned a sly and highly dangerous fox to guard the henhouse called the One Bridge, One Road. Erik Prince, a “former” CIA asset and world leading mercenary, is now in a position to provide Washington with the most intimate intelligence on the development of China’s New Economic Silk Road. As well, he could easily, were he inclined to be immoral, provide CIA terrorist handlers of groups such as ISIS or al Qaeda precise targets for future sabotage or disruption of the new Silk Road project.

F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook.”


Elle,

Do you do any research into who you quote here?

That website is run by someone from the LaRouche Movement started by Lyndon LaRouche. He has ties to the radical far left, in other words, hard core socialists, revolutionaries. Socialists are out to destroy liberty, pure and simple. It's their reason for existence. They are the group that covered up Stalin's massacres and, until they had no choice because of all the evidence, supported Hitler. Socialism is responsible for the deaths of more than 60 million people since WWII and was the platform of both Hitler and Stalin.

That article is one string of unsupported allegations after another. The author gives no evidence whatsoever for the claims he makes. It is propoganda from a source out destroy liberty by attempting to destroy faith in the founding principles of the US.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/14/17 01:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle


Here's the article below that show that on April 30th, China & the US were working together on the New Economic Silk Road that will favor world trading more efficiently.

Beijing Hires Princely Fox to Guard their OBOR Henhouse
http://journal-neo.org/2017/04/30/beijing-hires-princely-fox-to-guard-their-obor-henhouse/
April 30, 2017,

[quote]The Chinese government newspaper, Global Times, made public that a Hong Kong-based company called Frontier Services Group (FSG) will build two operational bases in Northwest China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region and Southwest China’s Yunnan Province. Xinjiang and Yunnan provinces are at the heart or geographical pivot of China’s vast, developing One Bridge, One Road high-speed rail, port and energy pipeline infrastructure undertaking. What is notable about Beijing’s engaging this FSG security company, is its chairman.

The Chairman and principal operating executive of Frontier Services Group is the world’s most notorious mercenary, Erik Prince, founder of the now-defunct Blackwater Security. In an interview with the London Financial Times, Prince recently described his work with China stating, “We’re not serving Chinese foreign policy goals, we’re helping increase trade.” He added, “China trading with its neighbors and building infrastructure brings only benefits. We’re not serving Chinese foreign policy goals, we’re helping increase trade.” Prince goes on to insist, “This is not a Chinese version of Blackwater. FSG is a logistics company; we are not a security company. None of our people have been or will be armed. But security management is certainly part of the logistics process.”

Security management is euphemism for bodyguards. Maybe Prince’s people have mastered the martial arts skills of Jason Statham who never needs firearms. Or maybe he is a liar. In either case, it’s a major event that China makes Erik Prince, ex-Navy Seal, CIA asset and co-founder of the notorious Blackwater, as guardian of its strategic New Economic Silk Road.

CITIC

The relationship to the Chinese seems not at all minimal or uninformed. FSG’s largest investor is CITIC, an investment fund owned and controlled by the People’s Republic of China. CITIC owns 20% of Frontier Services Group. CITIC reportedly first met Erik Prince in 2013 when Prince was in Hong Kong looking for investors for his Africa security group. Along with Prince as board chairman, the board of FSG includes Dongyi Hua, who is tied with a subsidiary of CITIC, as Acting CEO. Dongyi Hua’s business address in Beijing is listed as CITIC Tower. Chun Shun Ko is Deputy Chairman at Frontier Services Group. Both are Chinese nationals based in Beijing.

The Chinese apparently first took notice of Prince because of his security work protecting oil and gas pipeline companies in conflict zones of Africa such as Nigeria against the al Qaeda-tied Boko Harem, as well as South Sudan where China has major oil investments. Now, in a March 21 interview in the Chinese state Global Times paper, Prince announced his FSG has been hired to build two of what the company calls “operational bases.” He stated that, “in late 2016, FSG expanded its geographic focus from purely Africa to include the Northwest and Southwest corridors of the One Belt and One Road initiative.” Erik Prince is responsible for security at the very heart of China’s One Belt, One Road project, a project that holds the promise of a positive alternative to the collapsing Atlantic world of NATO.

Prince stated in his interview with Global Times, “The Northwest corridor includes the countries of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Afghanistan and the Southwest corridor includes Myanmar, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia,” adding that “The planned new facility in China’s Yunnan Province will allow FSG to be able to better serve companies in the Southwest corridor. Subsequently, FSG will be opening a training facility in Xinjiang to serve businesses in the Northwest corridor.”

The FSG base in Northwest China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region will be in the heart of CIA-instigated Uyghur terrorism activities. Xinjiang is home to the CIA-fostered East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETIM) of Al Qaeda, active among Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang. Xinjiang itself is the crossroads of most major international oil and gas pipelines into China from Kazakhstan, Russia and elsewhere as well as domestic China oilfields. The second “operational base” will be in Southwest China’s Yunnan Province, where Kunming is the strategic hub of the entire Myanmar oil and gas pipelines and deep water port to the Indian Ocean as well as the emerging crossroads of the vast One Road, One Road high-speed rail infrastructure under construction that will reach to Singapore and all Southeast Asia.

In it for the money?

Erik Prince insists that he is not building a “Chinese Blackwater,” but merely making business with the Chinese in their vast trade project to provide corporate security and other services. He insists that none of the security personnel of FSG are armed.

For their side, the official China Global Times interviewed Chinese experts who defend the hiring the private corporate security company of Erik Prince. Wu Xinbo, director of the Center for American Studies at Fudan University, told the Global Times that “security services for Chinese overseas enterprises should be bolstered to better implement the One Belt and One Road initiative. It is advisable for China to draw experience from private US companies.” Li Jiang, director of the international affairs department in the China Security and Protection Group, an arm of China’s Ministry of Public Security, added that

“Chinese companies desperately need overseas protection services. Chinese security service companies lack advanced management theories.”

Advanced “management theories” in private mercenary killing is certainly Erik Prince’s stock in trade. His Blackwater Security was hired by the CIA during the Iraq war in contracts amounting to over $600 million. Blackwater co-founder was Jamie Smith, was a former CIA officer who became Vice President of Blackwater USA and Director of Blackwater Security Company. Cofer Black, Blackwater vice-chairman from 2006 to 2009, was formerly director of the CIA’s Counterterrorist Center. In short Prince’s operation is a private CIA, unrestricted by US government restraints on covert operations.

Blackwater became notorious for the Nisour Square massacre in September 2007, when Blackwater employees opened fire in a crowded square in Baghdad, killing 17 Iraqi civilians including children, and seriously wounding 20 more. Three guards were convicted of 14 manslaughter charges, and another of murder, in a US court. After that in 2010 he sold the company and regrouped under the name Academi. In 2010 Prince’s company received another $100 million to do work for the CIA. In 2009 it was revealed that he was part of a CIA task force commissioned to kill terrorists. He even was hired to provide security to the Langley, Virginia CIA headquarters.

Trump Ties

Interesting to note as well are Erik Prince’s ties to the Donald Trump Administration. Prince, who knows Trump personally, gave over $100,000 to Trump’s election. His sister, billionaire Betsy DeVos of the AmWay family, is Trump Administration Secretary of Education. More to the point is that Prince is close friend to White House Chief Strategist in the Trump administration, Steve Bannon. According to one former US senior official, Prince had even advised the Trump transition team before January 20 on matters related to intelligence and defense, “including weighing in on candidates for the Defense and State departments.” In addition to Bannon, Erik Prince is close friend of vice President Mike Pence, who as Vice President cast a rare tie-breaking vote in the 50-50 vote in the Senate that allowed Prince’s sister, Betsy DeVos, to become Education Secretary. Prince is also close with billionaire hedge fund operator Robert Mercer of Renaissance Technologies, a key financier of Trump’s election and of Brexit in the UK.

It can well be and is perhaps likely, that the Beijing authorities see two gains from hiring Erik Prince to run security on the critical arteries of China’s One Belt, One Road. One is the fact that Erik Prince is demonstrably one of the world experts at corporate security in terrorist-prone regions. And he knows techniques perhaps unfamiliar to Chinese security companies. The second reason could well be Erik Prince’s intimate ties with a Trump Administration that rhetorically campaigned on a hard anti-China theme, where Beijing hopes that Prince as their “friend” with direct ties to Trump people, might be able to mediate better relations with Washington.

If that is the case, Chinese authorities might reconsider whether in pursuit of those understandable goals, they have just sanctioned a sly and highly dangerous fox to guard the henhouse called the One Bridge, One Road. Erik Prince, a “former” CIA asset and world leading mercenary, is now in a position to provide Washington with the most intimate intelligence on the development of China’s New Economic Silk Road. As well, he could easily, were he inclined to be immoral, provide CIA terrorist handlers of groups such as ISIS or al Qaeda precise targets for future sabotage or disruption of the new Silk Road project.

F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook.”

Originally Posted By: Gary K

Elle,

Do you do any research into who you quote here?

That website is run by someone from the LaRouche Movement started by Lyndon LaRouche. He has ties to the radical far left, in other words, hard core socialists, revolutionaries. Socialists are out to destroy liberty, pure and simple. It's their reason for existence. They are the group that covered up Stalin's massacres and, until they had no choice because of all the evidence, supported Hitler. Socialism is responsible for the deaths of more than 60 million people since WWII and was the platform of both Hitler and Stalin.

That article is one string of unsupported allegations after another. The author gives no evidence whatsoever for the claims he makes. It is propoganda from a source out destroy liberty by attempting to destroy faith in the founding principles of the US.

I have no idea who is the Larouche movement or if they are legit or not.

Originally Posted By: wiki
"The LaRouche movement is a political and cultural network promoting Lyndon LaRouche and his ideas. It has included many organizations and companies around the world, which campaign, gather information, and publish books and periodicals. The movement promotes a revival of classical art and a greater commitment to science; advocates the development of major economic infrastructure projects on a global scale; and calls for a reform of the world financial system to encourage investment in the physical economy and suppress financial speculation.

....

Cultural, economic, and scientific initiatives

Main article: Views of Lyndon LaRouche and the LaRouche movement
1.-Restoration of Glass-Steagall. Since 2007, the movement has actively campaigned to restore the Glass-Steagall Act, to separate commercial banking from speculative investment banking, protecting the former and not bailing out the latter.[4]
2.-New Bretton Woods. Advocates the abandonment of floating exchange rates and the return to Bretton Woods-style fixed rates, with gold, or an equivalent, used as under the gold-reserve system. This is not to be confused with the gold standard, which LaRouche does not support.
3.-American System. Espouses a new "American System" of federalized infrastructure projects and national banks and regulation. Named for the historical American System of Henry Carey, but owing more to the ideas of the expansive American School.
4.-Eurasian Land Bridge. Lectures and writes on behalf of a "Eurasian land-bridge", a massive high-speed maglev railway project to span continents and re-invigorate industry and commerce.
5.-Scientific pitch. Argues in favor of what they call "Verdi tuning" in classical music, in which A=432 Hz, as opposed to the common practice today of tuning to A=440 Hz.
6.-Mars colonization. Recommends colonization of the planet Mars, on similar basis as many others in the field, that human survivability depends on territorial diversification.
7.-Strategic Defense Initiative. Supported directed beam weapons for use against ICBMs, and claims credit as the first to propose this to Ronald Reagan. LaRouche does not support rocket-based defensive systems such as anti-ballistic missiles.


#1, #2, #4, #5 (potentially #7 depending what is a ICBM) are in line with the goals of the BRICS Nations, the Eurasian Nations, and other Nations alliances (over 200 countries) that wants to return to the Gold standard, and restructure the Global Economic system.

This Larouche group could be a "Deep State" (or Mystery Babylon) wolf with sheep clothing. Mystery Babylon have many of these deceptive groups created. It wouldn't surprise me.

Whether this Larouche is a "Deep State" group or not, the article above is still legitimate. I have found the same account reported by at least 3 other sources that weren't MSM(Mainstream Media) I do not perceive this as "fake news".

The One Belt One Road (OBOR) project is also an authentic project. China has been talking about it for a long time using other terms to describe it. I think the first I heard about it about 4 years ago, under the name of Eurasian Silk Road and other names. I have brought more than 3 articles about this project over the years in this discussion.

This OBOR project is a super huge project that China has initiated to increase the world multinational trading (something Mystery Babylon doesn't want to do..they only want trading among the countries they choose & bless; but supresses trade with all the other countries (according to a world trading map I saw some months ago ... I would say there's hardly any trade with about 80% of the other "cursed" countries).

The OBOR infrastructure will give many of the "cursed" countries opportunities to enter into trading. Plus the OBOR project will increase job creation along the construction of this massive infrastructure all over the Globe. It's a great project.

So if Larouche is a potential "Deep State" deceiving plan in disguised to divert or stall the OBOR project by first pulling the trust from the little people by writing something true, but later will lead them into deception ---well, I'm afraid that it's not going to work. Mystery Babylon can pull all the tricks they want; despite, I believe it will all failed because their time is simply up. Mystery Babylon (their master mind current economic debt system and their NWO plans) is falling in front of our eyes. The Lord will see to it that Mystery Babylon's lies & deception will be all exposed.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/14/17 08:51 PM

My comment : Speaking about the OBOR (One Belt One Road) project in the two posts above...it just so happen that China is currently hosting an International Belt and Road Forum encouraging global cooperation this weekend.

In the video below we have President Xi and President Putin(the Kings of the Easts of today that threw down the Mystery Babylon Empire. see Rev 16:12) opening message of the Forum. My view is this OBOR project is our futur after the fall of Mystery Babylon. That's what I see scripture and current events pointing to.


Belt & Road: China welcomes heads of state, intl bodies at global cooperation forum
https://www.rt.com/news/388285-china-silk-road-forum/
May 14th, 2017

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Beijing is hosting a high-level international cooperation forum, dubbed "One Belt, One Road,” which brings together dozens of heads of state and government, along with financial organizations and hundreds of business representatives and entrepreneurs.

"Spanning thousands of miles and years, the ancient silk routes embody the spirit of peace and cooperation, openness and inclusiveness, mutual learning and mutual benefit," Chinese President Xi Jinping said at the opening of the forum. "The Silk Road spirit has become a great heritage of human civilization."


Xi also undertook to build a “road of peace” as he emphasized the need to respect the sovereignty and national interests of each and every state. The Chinese president added that he also wants it to be a “road of prosperity,” focusing on cooperation and production that would aim to maintain a dynamic growth.

The initiative, Xi said, is based on transparency and efficient resource allocation, with “no intention of creating a small group detrimental to stability.”

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Speaking after the host of the conference, Russian President Vladimir Putin noted that, unfortunately, “protectionism and unlawful restrictions” have become the new norm in the modern world.

“We cannot resolve modern challenges by using old approaches. We need new ideas. We need to abandon all stereotypes,” Putin urged.

“We should set a role model for the global community of how we can work together, develop together, based on equality and respect for national sovereignty based on international law and the United Nations principles.”

Russia is ready to join the development of “new modern transport corridors,” Putin said, as well as to contribute to “large scale energy infrastructure projects.” Putin also called for scientific cooperation and to “set up international laboratories” which can contribute to regional development.


“Civilization project for the future,” as Putin called the New Silk Road, should bring stability and prosperity along its way.

Taking the stage after Putin, Turkey’s President Recep Erdogan emphasized that a project of such scale will encourage greater intergovernmental cooperation and strengthen the “climate of solidarity” among all partners. The establishment of a new, coherent political and economic system will “pave the way in a new era,” said the Turkish leader leader whose country was an important point of convergence during the times of the ancient Silk Road.

Rounding-off the opening ceremony as the final speaker, the Secretary-General of the United Nations, Antonio Guterres, said the Silk Road project has “immense potential… far-reaching in geography and ambition.”

Putin arrived in Beijing to offer concrete initiatives to implement and strengthen the Beijing-led Silk Road project which top delegates of 29 nations will discuss over two days at the Belt and Road Forum in the Chinese capital.

Hosted by Chinese President Xi, the forum will offer a unique opportunity for the world leaders to engage in a wide range discussions. Putin is one of the keynote speakers.

High-level interactions between Russia and China have intensified over the recent years and Moscow is ready to promote ways to cooperate in trade, cultural and scientific exchange in an effort to boost the reincarnation of the ancient and famed Silk Route.

According to the Russian president’s press service, Putin plans to present Moscow’s vision, outlining the prospects for economic development in Eurasia. He also plans to propose a number of concrete initiatives to build the shortest cost-effective and efficient transport routes through the territory of Russia for the delivery of goods from the Atlantic to the Pacific.

Among other plans, Russia wants to strengthen the interconnection of the Asian Pacific countries in the energy sector. As the demand for electricity in the Asia-Pacific region is rapidly growing, Moscow wants to create an energy ring between Russia, Japan, Korea, China and Mongolia which was first discussed at the Eastern Economic Forum in Vladivostok in 2016.

China and Russia share infrastructure development plans in the Far East region. China, for instance, has attached great importance to integrating the Eurasian Economic Union with this Beijing led mechanism.

“China regards Russia as a key partner when implementing the concept,” the Kremlin said in a statement. “Russia, in turn, is interested in using the opportunities provided by the Chinese initiative for implementing major joint projects – including the economic development of the Russian regions of Siberia and the Far East.”

Xi and Putin have been discussing potential development regularly throughout the course of the year. Both leaders met at high-level international forums, including the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit in June in Astana, Kazakhstan. They also met at the BRICS summit in Xiamen, China in September and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum in Vietnam in November.

The Belt and Road Initiative was first proposed by China in 2013. It envisions two components: the Silk Road Economic Belt and the 21st Century Maritime Silk Road that are expected to cover more than 60 percent of the world’s population and more than one-third of the global economic output.

The Chinese proposal envisages the creation of six economic corridors: Bangladesh-China-India-Myanmar, China-Mongolia-Russia, China-Central Asia-West Asia, China-Indochina Peninsula, China-Pakistan Economic Corridor and Eurasian Land Bridge.

The list of the 28 confirmed heads of state and government attending the forum also include Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte, Turkish President Recep Erdogan and Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni.

But not all countries are roused by the China-led project. Washington, for instance, is sending a low-level delegation led by White House adviser Matt Pottinger, while France, Germany, and Britain are to be represented by finance officials.

Politicians aside, the forum will hear from over 80 leaders of international organizations, including, the United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde, and World Bank Group President Jim Yong Kim. Some 1,500 business representatives and journalists are expected to attend.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/16/17 01:15 AM

I can't remember if I asked about, I think it was, Puerto Rico going bankrupt. I'm surprised you haven't listed anything about it.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/17/17 03:27 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
I can't remember if I asked about, I think it was, Puerto Rico going bankrupt. I'm surprised you haven't listed anything about it.

This is old news actually. I thought I mentioned it last year, but I couldn't find the post. Maybe I haven't as there's so much news that I don't have the time to report all of them. But feel free to report whatever you want kland or others about this topic.

They defaulted on their debt last year. They were technically bankrupt last year; however they couldn't legally file bankruptcy under federal law. The current Babylonian banking system & governmental laws is "bail out"(tax more the people) or "bail in"(steal the money from people banks account) to pay the debt... bankruptcy is not a solution under the Babylonian system.

In one of Jim Willie recent podcast, that he don't believe they will bail out or bail in Puerto Rico as this would set a precedent to bail out all other US States that are also bankrupt. What I think Jim was meaning with "they" is the current US government under Trump wouldn't allow the Banksters to do it. Other countries like Canada -- Yes -- they will do the "bail out" and "bail in" as Trudeau is nothing more than a compromised puppet ruler under Mystery Babylon's commands.

I believe that Trump is letting the Old Babylonian Debt-based system collapse; I think it is the only solution. Some turmoils will happens until a Jubilee (forgiveness of debts -- still to be seen to what level this will be applied) comes to liberate us from the Babylonian captivity like it was establish by God in the TYPE.

Over the past 5 years, I have posted many financial experts that has recommended that a Jubilee is the only solution for solving this mess that Mystery Babylon has put all nations into.

I do believe that a Jubilee is what is coming as this was prophecized in the Old Babylonian TYPE and the Egyptian captivity TYPE.

Here's two articles about Puerto Rico that I've found :

March 2016 : http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/03/29/Everything-You-Need-Know-About-Puerto-Rico-Debt-Crisis

May 2017 : http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/05/thousands-protest-puerto-rico-debt-cuts
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/17/17 05:00 PM

Isn't Jubilee actually a bail-out, a bankruptcy?
Isn't a bail-out actually a canceling of debts?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/18/17 06:13 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Isn't Jubilee actually a bail-out, a bankruptcy?
Isn't a bail-out actually a canceling of debts?

???
Originally Posted By: Investopia
A bail-in is rescuing a financial institution on the brink of failure by making its creditors and depositors take a loss on their holdings. A bail-in is the opposite of a bail-out, which involves the rescue of a financial institution by external parties, typically governments using taxpayers money.

Typically, bail-outs have been far more common than bail-ins, but in recent years after massive bail-outs some governements now require the investors and depositors in the bank to take a loss before taxpayers.

Read more: Bail-In Definition | Investopedia http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bailin.asp#ixzz4hNrpnqET


In the definition above, they only specify "financial institution" but other definition, there's bailouts of "economies" by which countries like Greece, or colony like Puerto Rico or US States fall into. So Babylon makes it illegal for these "economies" to declare bankruptsy so that a bail-out or bail-in or both can be worked out. Read about what happened to Greece when they defaulted on their payments about 2 years ago. So whatever payments they defaulted and whatever bailout agreement reached, the people still have to pay it in some form or another with a surplus interest. Their debt is far from being cancelled.

Whereas a jubilee [type] on the other hand is the cancelling of all debts that was put on the people. The two Jubilee [type] found in the Bible happened once the people were released from their captivity from a tyrant empire. The first is what happened at the Exodus when the people left with the spoil of Egypt. The second is when Cyrus financed the restoration of Jerusalem and their temple after the fall of Babylon. What Cyrus did, was not exclusive to only the Nation of Judah, but also financed the restoration of all nations as accounted in the Cyrus cylinder. (read post #181012 for Cyrus cylinder quote and scripture quotes about these 2 Jubilee [type])

Just to be clear. What I expect to see coming is not the fullfillment of the great Jubilee, it is a Jubilee TYPE in some form like what happened after the fall of Egypt and old Babylon. These small Jubilee types points to the greater Jubilee of all at the end of time when Jesus has succeeded to put all things under his feet so that God can be all in all.

So what debt will be cancelled at this potential coming Jubilee [type]? I'm no expert, but what I get from reading experts here and there and from my hunch (just a speculation). I think only the debts (or part of it???) owed to the Babylonian Elites that will be cancelled by which was caused by their unlawful practices : like usury (charging interest that is mathematically impossible for any country to pay it on the long run), the 700+ trillions of derivative market and other products of banking sophistication.

Whereas, the debt owed to other countries from buying their goods -- these I don't believe these will be cancelled. That's why China has a lot to say in the world financial affairs because they have been sending ship loads of goods to the western countries for many decades.

Time will tell.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/19/17 08:24 PM

Let's see if it's the same.
I was talking about Puerto Rico's debt.
Creditors filed lawsuits against the island.
The government owes the money.
The government is for the people.
The government provides "services" for the people.
Therefore, the people owe the money.
The creditors, in effect, want the people to pay up.

So a bail-out, a bankruptcy, is actually forgiving the debts of the people.

You're right, if it's not "bankruptcy", if they have to repay it, then that's different. But is it really? Default on the repayment, too.

But would you agree if it is bankruptcy, that is the same as jubilee, a canceling of debts?

But your idea of "jubilee" what you're suggesting seems a little slanted, unfair, unequal. Some debts canceled, but not others. So if you're trying to make it "Biblical", I'm not seeing anything here.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/20/17 06:54 AM

Kland you should at least read the two articles I've provided. I really do not appreciate that you mis-represent & confuse things.
Originally Posted By: kland
...
The government owes the money.
The government is for the people.

??? Since when the government is for the people? The government of all Western Countries is Mystery Babylon's agencies ruled by their puppet. They do NOT serve the people. They serve the megacorps and the Bankster's Elites.

Originally Posted By: kland
The government provides "services" for the people.
Therefore, the people owe the money.
The creditors, in effect, want the people to pay up.

???

Mystery Babylon has devise a DEBT system that puts all nations into perpetual DEBT that is IMPOSSIBLE to PAY.

You, Alchemy, and I had this discussion before in Does Anyone know how the economy system works?. Re-read the key post in that discussion.

see the video below that explains how it works and why it is impossible to pay.



Originally Posted By: kland
So a bail-out, a bankruptcy, is actually forgiving the debts of the people.

I repeat -- No, a bailout is NOT a bankruptcy.

Both articles provides about Puerto Rico's situation stated very clearly that it is Illegal for them under Federal LAW to file for Bankruptcy. Didn't you read it?

Originally Posted By: kland
But your idea of "jubilee" what you're suggesting seems a little slanted, unfair, unequal. Some debts canceled, but not others. So if you're trying to make it "Biblical", I'm not seeing anything here.

I did not write the Jubilee Law nor did I make the two Jubilee [type] happen in the time of the Exodus from Egypt and after the Old Babylonian fall via King Cyrus.

Oh? So in the examples I gave, you think God would be "a little slanted, unfair, unequal".

Originally Posted By: Elle
...I think only the debts owed to the Babylonian Elites that will be cancelled by which was caused by their unlawful practices


Since you think the above is unfair... so in your view, God would be more fair to demand the captives to pay the DEBT that Mystery Babylon has put ILLEGALLY on the people after God destroys those tyrant Empires????? And it should be paid to whom? Since Mystery Babylon will be destroyed..... do you think, the debt should be paid or transferred to the next Empire that God brings up? Something like that would be more fair to you????

Originally Posted By: Elle
Whereas, the debt owed to other countries from buying their goods -- these I don't believe these will be cancelled.

OK let's say you owe $1000 to a business for some work he has done for you fairly & legally. And meanwhile Mystery Babylon falls. So in your view, it would be more fair that you DON'T pay the $1000 for the work produced honestly & fairly to that business after the fall of Mystery Babylon?

You definitely don't have the same sense of "fairness" that I see in the Bible.

I think you will still need to pay your neighbor for the work he has honestly & LEGALLY done for you. While the debt that was ILLEGALLY and fraudulantly fabricated by Mystery Babylon....I do foresee that it will be cancelled out because it was created ILLEGALLY & deceptively.

Plus, besides cancelling the illegal & fabricated debt of Mystery Babylon, I do think the people will get the "spoils" of Mystery Babylon once the Elites will be brought to Court... I do expect that the court will rule that the Elites possession will be taken from them and be given to the people as a RESTITUTION for all the damages & losses they have inflicted on the people and the land. To me that's the way God's judgment is defined in His law.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/20/17 01:44 PM

My comment : Just a few years ago banks were just "too big to fail" and hardly prosecuted. When they were, they were given a small fine. Now we see things change. Central banks are being prosecuted and bankers are put in jail.

In Rev 17:16 says the "ten horns" (which are nations that Mystery Babylon is riding) "these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire."

At the very end of the destruction of Mystery Babylon(MB), I think it will be the Western nations whom were rode by MB that will turn against her and "eat her"(conquer her).

Italy is one of those Nations MB was ridding. In the article below we see Italy prosecuting the Bankters. I believe we will see much more of that type of news from the Western countries ... I'm looking forward to see what the USA will soon do to her in court.

Deutsche Bank Sued For Running An "International Criminal Organization" In Italian Court
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-18...al-organization

May 18th, 2017

------------some extracted quotes ------------------
"Having been accused, and found guilty, of rigging and manipulating virtually every possible asset class, perhaps it was inevitable that Deutsche Bank, currently on trial in Milan for helping Banca Monte dei Paschi conceal losses (as first reported last October in "Deutsche Bank Charged By Italy For Market Manipulation, Creating False Accounts") is now facing accusations that it was actually running an international criminal organization at the time."

...that there were additional, aggravating circumstances to the charges the German lender already faces related to various derivatives transactions.

If proven, the aggravating circumstance may increase the eventual jail sentence for the market manipulation to a maximum of nine years.”

"...were charged in Milan last year for colluding to falsify the accounts of Monte Paschi (which itself is so insolvent it recentl got its third state-funded bailout) and manipulate the market."

...the prosecution’s request to label Deutsche Bank an international criminal association hinged on events that occurred in other parts of the globe, including the possible manipulation of an index
"

Quote:
Having been accused, and found guilty, of rigging and manipulating virtually every possible asset class, perhaps it was inevitable that Deutsche Bank, currently on trial in Milan for helping Banca Monte dei Paschi conceal losses (as first reported last October in "Deutsche Bank Charged By Italy For Market Manipulation, Creating False Accounts") is now facing accusations that it was actually running an international criminal organization at the time.

In the closely watched lawsuit, prosecutors used internal Deutsche Bank documents and emails to persuade a three-judge panel to rule [b]that there were additional, aggravating circumstances to the charges the German lender already faces related to various derivatives transactions
. As Bloomberg reported overnight, the material included a London trader’s "well done!" message to a banker who is now on trial.

The reason why prosecutors are seeking expanded charges against the German banking giants is that by allowing prosecutors to argue that the bank's market manipulation crimes were committed by an organization operating in several countries would lead to higher penalties if they win a conviction.

Predictably, Deutsche Bank's lawyer, Giuseppe Iannaccone, sought to block the move at Tuesday’s hearing, saying there wasn’t a clear connection between the original charge of market manipulation and the alleged aggravating circumstances. “The trial for Deutsche Bank managers becomes more problematic after the judge’s decision,” said Giampiero Biancolella, an attorney specializing in financial crime who isn’t involved in the case. “If proven, the aggravating circumstance may increase the eventual jail sentence for the market manipulation to a maximum of nine years.”

As a reminder, Deutsche Bank and Japan's Nomura both went on trial in Milan in December, accused of colluding with Monte Paschi to cover up losses that almost toppled the Italian lender before its current battle for survival. Thirteen former managers of Deutsche Bank, Nomura and Monte Paschi were charged for alleged false accounting and market manipulation. Focuing on the German bank, six current and former managers of Deutsche Bank, including Michele Faissola, Michele Foresti and Ivor Dunbar, were charged in Milan last year for colluding to falsify the accounts of Monte Paschi (which itself is so insolvent it recentl got its third state-funded bailout) and manipulate the market.

As a further reminder, Michele Faissola is the DB banker who was implicated in the death of DB's senior risk manager, William S. Broeksmit, who was found dead in 2014 after committing a still unexplained suicide.

Going back to the accusation that Deutsche Bank is a global criminal cartel, the prosecution’s request to label Deutsche Bank an international criminal association hinged on events that occurred in other parts of the globe, including the possible manipulation of an index, which isn’t the subject of charges in the Milan case. Specifically, as Bloomberg previously reported, a 2014 confidential audit commissioned by German regulator Bafin said that Deutsche Bank employees may have manipulated internal indexes to help ensure the success of the deal. The study, requested by Bafin, said an internal Deutsche Bank review described “abnormalities” in the values of proprietary indexes used to set the price for the Monte Paschi deal in December 2008.

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The internal Deutsche Bank report, which has never been made public, is cited in the Italian court documents seen by Bloomberg. "DB’s own trading activities were a significant factor in the observed ‘spike’ in prices and volumes," a portion of the bank’s document says.

On the afternoon of Dec. 5, 2008, just one minute and 57 seconds after the futures price underlying the index had spiked to a level required for the deal to succeed, a trader in London pushed the button on the "well done!" email, evidence introduced to the Milan court shows. The recipient was Michele Foresti, then the bank’s head of European fixed income.

Iannaccone, the lawyer for Deutsche Bank who is also defending Foresti, said the judge’s decision had to be respected and declined to comment on it. "We will clarify everything during the trial." While investigators at the Frankfurt-based bank couldn’t “unequivocally” link the spike to manipulation or the deal’s outcome, according to the Bafin-commissioned audit, the communications among the Deutsche Bank employees "provide a connection between the trading activity and the MPS transaction," the bank’s internal probe concluded.

Should the judge in the Milan case find Deutsche guilty of "running an international criminal organization", it will be a new low for the bank whose actions over the past several years have attracted global attention due to its criminal breach of laws and regulations in every market in which it has participated, resulting in dramatic and periodic executive changes, as well as the non-payment of bonuses for virtually all employees in 2016 as the bank's stock briefly crashed to all time lows last summer.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/22/17 02:27 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Isn't Jubilee actually a bail-out, a bankruptcy?
Isn't a bail-out actually a canceling of debts?

I mentioned to you in my replied post 2 days ago, to look at Greece bailout arrangement. Well God convenient us by giving us in the news today an update on Greece bailout program.

I think you(kland) need to adjust your definition of "bailout"; so you can see that Babylon's bailout does not equate to God's Jubilee or any of it's types.

Greece is the first country to reach that inevitable end that Mystery's Babylon DEBT system will bring all countries to. Greece is Mystery Babylon(MB) example to others countries who default on their [impossible to pay] payment.

Currently, they are putting the laws necessary in place to make this confiscation process "legal". Once the laws changed, they plan to confiscate the people of Greece properties by 2018.

However, I do not foresee Mystery Babylon(MB) plans will succeed below because I think MB's destruction with their EU is going to happen first.

We will soon see what the Lord has in His plan for the remaining of 2017. I expect to see a lot of "game changers".

Greek Authorities To Launch Mass Confiscation Of Safe Deposit Boxes, Securities, Homes In Tax-Evasion Crackdown
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-21...ies-homes-tax-e

by Tyler Durden
May 22, 2017

---------- some quotes extracted from article below ----------
"while the law will be amended to allow for financial products and the content of safe deposit boxes to be confiscated electronically. The plan for the identification of taxpayers who have “forgotten” to declare their properties to the tax authorities is expected to be ready by year-end, according to the timetable of the Independent Authority for Public Revenue.

"What follows then will be a wholesale confiscation by the government of any asset whose source, origins and funding can not be explained.

"Kathimerini also notes that the IAPR is also waiting for Parliament to pass regulations permitting the mass confiscation of safe deposit box contents and financial assets such as securities.

"once the necessary regulations are in place for the operation of an automatic system to collect debts, the tax authorities will be able to issue online confiscation notices and immediately get their hands on the contents of safe deposit boxes, confiscating cash, precious stones, jewelry and so on. They will also be able to confiscate shares and other securities.

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Last week, the Greek parliament once again approved more austerity to unlock withheld Greek bailout funds in Brussels: a symbolic move, which has little impact without any actual follow through, like for example, actually imposing austerity. And while Greeks have been very good in the former (i.e. promises), they have been severely lacking in the latter (i.e. delivery).

That may be changing. According to Kathimerini, Greek Finance Ministry inspectors are about to start seeking out the owners of all local undeclared properties, while the law will be amended to allow for financial products and the content of safe deposit boxes to be confiscated electronically. The plan for the identification of taxpayers who have “forgotten” to declare their properties to the tax authorities is expected to be ready by year-end, according to the timetable of the Independent Authority for Public Revenue.

What follows then will be a wholesale confiscation by the government of any asset whose source, origins and funding can not be explained.

The Greek tax authorities will receive support from the Land Register to that end, as by end-September IAPR inspectors are set to obtain access to the company’s database to draw details on properties. Any taxpayers identified as having skipped the declaration of their assets to the tax authorities will be asked to comply and declare them, along with paying the tax and fines dictated by law. Should taxpayers fail to do so, the asset will be "sequestered."

Kathimerini also notes that the IAPR is also waiting for Parliament to pass regulations permitting the mass confiscation of safe deposit box contents and financial assets such as securities.

To date the process has been conducted in handwriting and is therefore particularly slow in locating the assets of taxpayers who have either concealed incomes or have major debts to the state. It is about to get much more streamlined: once the necessary regulations are in place for the operation of an automatic system to collect debts, the tax authorities will be able to issue online confiscation notices and immediately get their hands on the contents of safe deposit boxes, confiscating cash, precious stones, jewelry and so on. They will also be able to confiscate shares and other securities.

This year the tax authorities will focus their efforts on confiscations as they try to reduce the huge pile of expired debts to the state. In this context the Independent Authority for Public Revenue will auction 27 properties belonging to state debtors by the end of next month, with the aim of collecting 2.7 billion euros by the end of the year from old debts and another 690 million euros of new debts from major debtors.

We will share the details of the auctions with readers as some notable bargains may emerge in the coming months.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/22/17 03:06 PM

My comment : Many financial experts and economists talk how the FEDeral Reserve, the EU, Central Banking laws, the price manipulation, and all other financials products put in place will .......... become IRRELEVANT while the emerging nations financial system gets stronger as their worldwide OBOR(One Belt One Road) trading infrastructure plan moves forward.

So currently we see TWO worldwide ECONOMIC SYSTEM operating at the same time. I don't know how long Mystery Babylon's system will be operating in this IRRELEVANT status. I do hope to see some drastic overthrow and jailing process; but we do not know what the Lord has really in mind.

Meanwhile, the USA [who recently separated from the Deep State however is still under its attacks while trying to "clean their swamp"] is desperately trying to maintain their "leadership" status in the world. Due to the complexity of their divided current US government; I think the US deep state swamp creatures that is still operating the wars and deals....is also becoming irrelevant.

Notice the list of all the countries who attended. I'm happy to see on the list Japan, South Korea, North Korea....

World Leaders Gather in Beijing While the US Sinks into Irrelevancy

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/20...rrelevancy.html

WAYNE MADSEN | 20.05.2017

"The one clear message the Beijing meeting sent out to the world is that America’s «unipolar» vision of the world was dead and buried. "

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While vaudevillian comedy-like shouting matches broke out in the West Wing of the White House between President Donald Trump and his senior advisers and between the White House press secretary and various presidential aides, world leaders gathered in Beijing to discuss the creation of modern-day land and maritime «silk roads» to improve the economic conditions of nations around the world. Nothing more could have illustrated the massive divide between the concerns of many of the nations of the world and those of the United States, which is rapidly descending into second-rate power status, along with its NATO allies Britain, France, and Germany.

While Mr. Trump was threatening to fire his senior White House staff, reprising his one-time role in his reality television show «The Apprentice», China’s President Xi Jinping, Russian President Vladimir Putin, and presidents and prime ministers from around the world sat down to discuss the creation of new international and intercontinental highways, railways, and maritime routes under China’s proposed Silk Road Economic Belt and the 21st Century Maritime Silk Road.

Even countries that are cool on the Chinese initiative, including India and Japan, sent representatives to the summit that carried a bit more clout than the pathetic representation of the United States, Matt Pottinger, a little-known special assistant to Trump and the senior director for East Asia of National Security Council. In fact, the only reason Trump sent anyone to represent the United States at the Beijing gathering was because of a special request made by President Xi during his recent meeting with Trump at the president’s private Mar-a-Lago Club resort in Palm Beach, Florida.

South Korea, which saw relations with China sour over America’s placement of Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile system in South Korea, sent a delegation to Beijing after a phone call between South Korea’s new liberal president, Moon Jae-in, and President Xi. Moon responded to the phone call by sending a delegation led by his Democratic Party’s veteran legislator to Beijing.

Even North Korea, which rankled South Korea, Japan, and the United States by firing a ballistic missile into waters near Russia, sent a delegation to the Beijing meeting headed by Kim Yong Jae, the North’s Minister of External Economic Relations. The Trump administration, which sent a virtual unknown to Beijing, complained loudly about North Korea’s representation at the Silk Road summit. But Washington’s complaint was conveyed by someone as unknown as Mr. Pottinger, Anna Richey-Allen, a low-level spokesperson for the U.S. State Department's East Asia Bureau. The reason why the United States is being spoken for by middle-grade bureaucrats is that the nation that still believes it is the world’s only remaining «superpower» is now governed by an administration rife with top-level vacancies, inter-agency squabbling, and amateur league players.

Even though major European Union member states were not represented in Beijing by their heads of government, Germany sent its Economy Minister, Brigitte Zypries. She warned, however, that the EU would not sign a Silk Road agreement with China unless certain EU demands on free trade and labor conditions were guaranteed. Germany’s reticence did not seem to faze other EU nations, which were represented in Beijing by their heads of government and appeared to be more avid in their support of the Chinese initiative. These EU member state leaders included Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni, Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy, Polish Prime Minister Beata Szydlo, Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, Czech President Milos Zeman, and Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. Moreover, had British Prime Minister Theresa May not been in the middle of a general election campaign, she would have been in Beijing. Nevertheless, she sent British Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond in her place.

If the Trump administration hoped to convince world leaders to stay away from Beijing, it was sorely disappointed. The United Nations Secretary General, Antonio Guterres, was there, along with the President of the World Bank Jim Yong Kim and International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde. Also present in Beijing were the presidents of Turkey, Philippines, Argentina, Chile, Indonesia, Kyrgyzstan, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Switzerland, Kenya, Uzbekistan, and Laos, as well as the prime ministers of Vietnam, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Serbia, Malaysia, Mongolia, Fiji, Ethiopia, Cambodia, and Myanmar.

Ministerial delegations from Afghanistan, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Brazil, Egypt, Finland, Iran, Kuwait, Lebanon, Maldives, Romania, Nepal, New Zealand, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Thailand, Tunisia, Uganda, and the United Arab Emirates were at the Beijing summit. Japan was represented by the senior adviser to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Secretary General of the Liberal Democratic Party, Toshihiro Nikai. France, which was experiencing a change of presidents, sent former Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin.

The Silk Road initiative has projects planned in all the nations whose governments were represented in Beijing, except for the United States and Israel. In addition to the nations represented by their government heads of state and ministers, Silk Road agreements were signed between China and Palestine, Georgia, Armenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Albania, Tajikistan, [censored], Croatia, and East Timor.

The one clear message the Beijing meeting sent out to the world is that America’s «unipolar» vision of the world was dead and buried. Even among Washington’s longtime friends and allies, one will not hear Donald Trump referred to as the «leader of the Free World.» That phrase has been discarded into the waste bin of history along with America’s insistence that it is the world’s only «superpower.» The United States is a power, a second-rate one that happens to possess a first-rate nuclear arsenal. But nuclear weapons were not being discussed in Beijing. Major projects were on the agenda, projects that when completed will leave the United States at sea in the propeller wash.

President Xi, in his keynote address to the conference, said that the «One Belt and One Road» initiative is «a project of the century» and that will benefit everybody across the world. And to put his money where his mouth is, Xi said China will contribute 80 billion yuan (US$113 billion) as added financial impetus to create a global network of highway, railway, and maritime links in a recreation of the ancient Silk Road that linked China to the West. Meanwhile, in Washington, Trump spoke of having recorded «taped» conversations with his fired director of the FBI James Comey, setting off a political firestorm. A new global infrastructure being spoken about in Beijing and political hijinks the major topic of conversation in Washington. The United States has fallen into second-rate global status and is seriously ill as a cohesive nation-state but does not even realize it.

China and Russia used the Beijing summit to showcase several Eurasian initiatives, including the Russia-inspired Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) and the China-initiated Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB). Both the Chinese and Russian heads of state let it be known that the BRICS alliance of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa was still a potent world entity, even though South Africa was not represented in Beijing by its president and India chose not to send any representative to Beijing.

President Putin’s words to the conference about the new geopolitical status in the world were noteworthy: «the greater Eurasia is not an abstract geopolitical arrangement but, without exaggeration, a truly civilization-wide project looking toward the future.» In other words, the European Union, which is losing the United Kingdom as a member and will never see membership for Turkey, is a dying international organism. Other international initiatives, like the EEU, BRICS, AIIB, and the One Belt, One Road (OBOR), are leaving the EU and the United States in the dust. That was evident by the fact that the United States was represented in Beijing by an overrated desk clerk and the EU by a Brussels «Eurocrat,» the European Commission vice president Jyrki Katainen.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/22/17 04:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Kland you should at least read the two articles I've provided. I really do not appreciate that you mis-represent & confuse things.

Elle, where do you think I got my comments from, but from reading the articles. You misrepresent my comments by failing to read through them, leaving out important parts, failing to grasp what is being said. You even reject the parts I agree with you on, skipping right over them.

Elle, I do not appreciate you repeatedly falsely accusing me and others.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/29/17 01:48 AM

My comment : This is very interesting! Some more signs in the sky.

Astronomical signs coming

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/05-2017/astronomical-signs-coming/
by Stephen Jones

May 26, 2017
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On August 21, 2017 the USA is getting its first solar eclipse in 99 years that moves from the West Coast to the East Coast.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/us/great-american-eclipse-trnd/

This looks strangely like an old prophecy from 30 years ago about a “flaming sword” that was take this same path. I suspect that it will mark the start of the final demise of Mystery Babylon, which we are looking for by the end of 2017.

Another major sign in the heavens is scheduled for September 23, 2017, when the woman (Virgo) appears to give birth to Jupiter (the King’s Planet).

http://drdaleblog.blogspot.com/2016/07/celestial-fulfillment-of-revelation-121.html

http://drdaleblog.blogspot.com/2017/03/christological-astronomy-update.html

Recall that from 1996-1999, Virgo appeared to give birth to the moon. The moon moved from Virgo’s womb to her feet, which also fulfilled the pattern given in Revelation 12:1, 2.

But in 2017 we seem to be seeing Part 2, where the “child” that was born in 1996-1999 is now returning as “Mars” (warrior) to overthrow Mystery Babylon.

This could get interesting.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/29/17 08:30 AM

My comment : I give two thumbs up for Duterte, the new president of the Philippines, who is dedicated to save his country and to protect the minds of the young people from drugs warlords & ISIS who infested his country. I think it is an excellent informative interview with Duterte.

Then the article below gives a good perspective of the current ISIS war in the Philippines.



ISIS touches down in the Philippines mayhem breaks out
https://www.sott.net/article/352280-ISIS-touches-down-in-the-Philippines-mayhem-brakes-out
May 26
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Mayhem broke out across the southern Philippine city of Marawi where militants besieged it and hoisted flags of the so-called "Islamic State." Located on the southern island of Mindanao, the city is only slightly removed from Al Qaeda affiliate Abu Sayaff's primary area of operation on nearby Jolo and Basilan islands.

The UK Independent in an article titled, "Isis-linked militants take priest and churchgoers hostage in Philippines," would report:
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President Rodrigo Duterte declared martial law in the south because of the militants' siege on the city on Tuesday and abandoned a trip to Russia to deal with the crisis.

Mr Duterte vowed to place southern Mindanao island, where Marawi is situated, and its 22 million residents under military rule for up to a year if necessary.

The article would also report:
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Troops are battling to contain dozens of militants from the Maute group, which pledged allegiance to Isis in 2015, after they escaped a botched security raid on a hideout and overran streets, bridges and buildings.

Two soldiers and a police officer are among those killed and at least 12 people have been wounded in the violence, seeing Maute fighters set fire to a school, a church and a prison.
The security crisis represents a seemingly inexplicable expansion of the Islamic State in Asia - even as the US and its allies claim the organization is being rolled back across the Middle East and its revenue streams are contracting in the wake of defeat.

US-Saudi Sponsored Terrorism Seeks to Coerce Asia

Both the Maute group and Abu Sayaff are extensions of Al Qaeda's global terror network, propped up by state sponsorship from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and fed recruits via a global network of likewise Saudi and Qatari funded "madrasas." In turn, Saudi Arabia and Qatar's state sponsorship of global terrorism for decades has been actively enabled by material and political support provided by the United States.

This arrangement provides for Washington both a global mercenary force with which to wage proxy war when conventional and direct military force cannot be used, and a pretext for direct US military intervention when proxy warfare fails to achieve Washington's objectives.

This formula has been used in Afghanistan in the 1980s to successfully expel the Soviet Union, in 2011 to overthrow the Libyan government, and is currently being used in Syria where both proxy war and direct US military intervention is being applied.

Maute and Abu Sayaff activity fits into this global pattern perfectly.

The Philippines is one of many Southeast Asian states that has incrementally shifted from traditional alliances and dependency on the United States to regional neighbors including China, as well as Eurasian states including Russia.

The Philippine president, Rodrigo Duterte, cancelling his meeting with Russia is a microcosm of the very sort of results Maute and Abu Sayaff are tasked with achieving in the Philippines. Attempts by the US to justify the presence of its troops in the Philippines as part of a wider strategy of encircling China with US military installations across Asia would also greatly benefit from the Islamic State "suddenly spreading" across the island nation.

Likewise, violence in Malaysia and Thailand are directly linked to this wider US-Saudi alliance, with violence erupting at each and every crucial juncture as the US is incrementally pushed out of the region. Indonesia has likewise suffered violence at the hands of the Islamic State, and even Myanmar is being threatened by Saudi-funded terrorism seeking to leverage and expand the ongoing Rohingya humanitarian crisis.

That US-Saudi sponsorship drives this terrorism, not the meager revenue streams of the Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, goes far in explaining why the terrorist organization is capable of such bold attacks in Southeast Asia even as Russia and Iranian backed Syrian troops extinguish it in the Middle East.

US-Saudi Links to Abu Sayaff and other Terrorists in the Philippines

A US diplomatic cable leaked by Wikileaks dated 2005 would state:
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Philippine officials noted their continuing concern about Saudi-origin terrorist financing coming into the Philippines under the cover of donations to mosques, orphanages, and madrassahs. Although three Saudi nationals suspected of being couriers had been detained on separate occasions, Saudi Ambassador Wali had intervened in each case to secure their release.

Yousaf [censored] of the Washington-based US National Defense University would reveal in a Huffington Post article titled, "How Saudi Wahhabism Is the Fountainhead of Islamist Terrorism," that:

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It would be troublesome but perhaps acceptable for the House of Saud to promote the intolerant and extremist Wahhabi creed just domestically. But, unfortunately, for decades the Saudis have also lavishly financed its propagation abroad. Exact numbers are not known, but it is thought that more than $100 billion have been spent on exporting fanatical Wahhabism to various much poorer Muslim nations worldwide over the past three decades. It might well be twice that number. By comparison, the Soviets spent about $7 billion spreading communism worldwide in the 70 years from 1921 and 1991.
The leaked cable and reports by Western analysts when taken together, reveal that Saudi-funded madrasas in the Philippines are directly fueling terrorism there.


The answer to why is simple.

For the same purposes the US used Saudi-funded terrorism in Afghanistan in the 1980s and in Libya and Syria beginning in 2011 - the US is using Saudi-funded terrorism to coerce the government of the Philippines amid Washington's faltering "pivot to Asia" which began under US President Barrack Obama and now continues under President Trump.

Countering US-Saudi Sponsored Terrorism

With US President Trump announcing a US-Saudi alliance against terrorism - the US has managed to strategically misdirect public attention away from global terrorism's very epicenter and protect America's premier intermediaries in fueling that terrorism around the world.

The Philippines would be unwise to turn to this "alliance" for help in fighting terrorism both the US and Saudi Arabia are directly and intentionally fueling.

Instead - for Southeast Asia - joint counter-terrorism efforts together and with China and Russia would ensure a coordinated and effective means of confronting this threat on multiple levels.

By exposing the US-Saudi role in regional terrorism - each and every act of terrorism and militancy would be linked directly to and subsequently taint the US and Saudi Arabia in the hearts and minds of Southeast Asia's population.

This paves the way for a process of exposing and dismantling US-Saudi funded fronts - including Saudi-sponsored madrasas and US-funded NGOs - both of which feed into regional extremism and political subversion. As this unfolds, each respective nation would be required to invest in genuine local institutions to fill sociopolitical and economic space previously occupied by these foreign funded fronts.

Until then, Asia should expect the US and its Saudi partners to continue leveraging terrorism against the region. If unchecked, Asia should likewise expect the same progress-arresting instability that has mired the Middle East and North Africa for decades.

Tony Cartalucci, Bangkok-based geopolitical researcher and writer, especially for the online magazine "New Eastern Outlook".
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 05/30/17 03:57 PM

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Another major sign in the heavens is scheduled for September 23, 2017, when the woman (Virgo) appears to give birth to Jupiter (the King’s Planet).

Astrology.... Interesting stuff?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/01/17 07:23 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
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Another major sign in the heavens is scheduled for September 23, 2017, when the woman (Virgo) appears to give birth to Jupiter (the King’s Planet).

Astrology.... Interesting stuff?

I think so.

Remember in 2015 & 2016 we had two sets of tetrad--Post#181377. So we had a sort of Hexad signs.

Now in 2017 we have two signs : a major solar eclipse in the US, and virgo with the 12 stars on her head, moon under her feet and Jupiter going thru her womb & legs.

So we had signs in the heavens in 2015 & 2016(hexad), and now with these two signs in 2017. Yes, I think it is interesting.

Apparently 2017 is the year that Mystery Babylon should fall. I don't think it will coincide with Jesus 2nd coming. No body knows when that will happen, but many thinks (including myself) that it should be sometime before the next coming Jubilee Year. If I recall correctly the next Jubilee year(counting cycles of 49 years from Adam) is in 2035.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/01/17 07:32 PM

My comment : Here's an interesting 800 yrs old prophecy given to a Rabbi Judah ben Samuel that is also pointing to 2017. Rabbi Samuel interpretation of it is questionable....despite the prophecy itself still stand.

Ancient prophecy from 1217 AD

May 31, 2017

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Here is an 800-year-old prophecy from a Jewish rabbi from the year 1217 that is interesting.

Rabbi Judah ben Samuel published a prophecy 800 years ago, based on his view of 50-year Jubilees (rather than 49-year cycles). Although the Ottoman Turks first appeared in the pages of history in the year 1215, just two years before the prophecy was written, he foresaw the time when they would conquer Jerusalem 300 years later in 1517.

http://destination-yisrael.biblesearcher...he-messiah.html

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Rabbi Judah ben Samuel - “When the Ottomans (Turks) – who were already a power to be reckoned with on the Bosporus in the time of Judah Ben Samuel – conquer Jerusalem they will rule over Jerusalem for eight jubilees. Afterwards Jerusalem will become no-man’s land for one jubilee, and then in the ninth jubilee it will once again come back into the possession of the Jewish nation – which would signify the beginning of the Messianic end time.”


1217 AD. The prophecy.

1517 AD. Ottoman Turks take Jerusalem and rule for 8 Jubilees.

1917 AD. British take Jerusalem, but do not annex it. “No man’s land” for 1 Jubilee.

1967 AD. Jews take Jerusalem and rule it for 1 Jubilee to 2017.

2017 AD. “The beginning of the Messianic end time.”

No doubt the rabbi thought that Jerusalem would stand forever, and perhaps be ruled by the Messiah beginning in 2017. It remains to be seen whether 2017 will see a Jewish messiah or the real one who comes this time of Joseph. Will the old Jerusalem be the mother of the inheritors? Or will the New Jerusalem give birth to the Kingdom inheritors? Was Paul right or wrong in Galatians 4:28-31? Perhaps this “controversy of Zion” (Isaiah 34:8 KJV) will be resolved in 2017.

The fact is, the real “saints of the Most High” are now arising as caretakers of the Kingdom. The saints are not biological descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but are the sons of God who have been begotten by the Spirit.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/04/17 08:24 AM

My comment : Here's some quotes from two other articles with comments about the war against the druglords and ISIS in the Philippines with some inside scoop perspective from a Christian who was a missionary kid when his family was stationed there. Later, in his adult years 'till today, he continued serving the Philippines. So he knows many Christians communities there and a lot of their past history.

Update on the Philippines

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/05-2017/update-on-the-philippines/

May 30, 2017

Stephen Jones
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I was hoping to be in the Philippines by now on a teaching trip. However, the trip did not work out, so perhaps I will go later in the year.

The Philippine president (Duterte) has caused quite a stir around the world for his strong-man tactics in dealing with drug dealers and pedophiles who flourished under previous government administrations. As the mayor of Davao, the second largest city in the Philippines, the city was largely crime-free, mostly because he used some “undemocratic” tactics to get rid of the drug dealers. Davao is even a smoke-free city—No Smoking Allowed within the city limits.

When Duterte won the election as president, it was essentially a referendum to use the same tactics nationally that he had used in Davao City. He declared war on the drug dealers, and it was not long before more than a million drug dealers and addicts had turned themselves in to the police departments around the country. Essentially, they knew that they might be killed on sight if they continued selling drugs on the streets.

Last year Duterte insulted both the Pope and President Obama. He has no respect for them personally. He seems to like President Trump much better, so it will be interesting to watch how that relationship develops. Duterte was visiting Putin in Russia last week, and the US-backed ISIS group in the Philippines retaliated for his disparaging remarks about US foreign policy and its backing of ISIS. Duterte had to cut short his visit and return to declare martial law on Mindanao.

http://www.neonnettle.com/news/2217-pres...-their-creation

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“A declassified CIA report from 2012 claimed that the US could use Daesh [or ISIS] as a tool to destabilize and overthrow Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, a tactic that the US has indeed utilized in the years since. It seems that Daesh’s increased presence in the Philippines could be a sign that the US is seeking to do the same with Duterte’s government.”

It appears that the CIA’s assassination policies are driving Duterte away from US hegemony into the Russian sphere. The real meaning of “democracy” is putting other nations under US control and treating them as colonies. Democracy is just colonialism in disguise and doused with media perfume to make it smell good.

But Duterte is fighting back. This report says that he is kicking the Rothschilds out of the Philippines.

http://yournewswire.com/duterte-rothschilds-philippines/

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President Duterte has vowed to “eradicate all traces of Rothschild financial criminality” from the Philippines, announcing that he will no longer respond to pressure or financial blackmail from the US government or Rothschild-controlled global banking institutions.

The president, who claims to have killed cartel bosses with his own hands, is not one to be bullied, and he has now set his sights on cleaning up the financial corruption in his country, promising to “drive them out like the scavengers they are.“

Before Rodrigo Duterte assumed the office of president, the Philippines was suffering from the effects of IMF/World Bank-imposed austerity and privatization that exploited its people and resources. It was also one of Asia’s most corrupt and troubled nations….

How does Duterte get away with taking on the rich and powerful? It’s simple. He boasts a massive 83% popular approval rating across the country. The oligarchs cannot use the mainstream media to destroy him because the people don’t trust what the media says anymore.

The people trust Duterte because unlike generations of politicians who came before him, he actually does what he says. His plain speaking enrages the powers that be in the West, who have waged war against him through their propaganda channels in the media.

The Philippines is a key nation in the coming of the Kingdom of God. Much will start there. The prophetic signs are everywhere, and there has been much prophecy spoken about the country. So we ought to watch what happens in the Philippines, because it will affect the rest of the world eventually, if not immediately.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/04/17 08:59 AM

My comment: Remember the article on May 18th "Deutsche Bank Sued For Running An "International Criminal Organization" In Italian Court"(see Post #183734). Well currently Deutsche bank is being prosecuted in the US courts about their precious metal manipulation.

This is an important court case to keep our eyes on its development. Hopefully, as a result of this, we probably will start seeing the prices of precious metals going up (or be adjusted) to regain their true value. Many economist & financial experts has been talking about this day for a long time and a necessary step to return to the gold standard.

Deutsche Bank Admits Guilt In Fraud Conspiracy To Rig Precious Metals Markets

http://thedailycoin.org/2017/06/02/deuts...metals-markets/
June 2nd 2017
Quote:
After months of “smoking guns” and conspiracy theory dismissals, a Singapore-based Deutsche Bank trader (at the center of fraud allegations) finally confirmed (by admitting guilt) what many have suspected – the biggest banks in the world have conspired to rig precious metals markets.

The Deutsche Bank trader, David Liew, pleaded guilty in federal court in Chicago to conspiring to spoof gold, silver, platinum and palladium futures, according to court papers. Bloomberg notes that spoofing involves traders placing orders that they never intend to fill, in an attempt to manipulate the price….

Deutsche Bank declined to comment.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/04/17 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment: Remember the article on May 18th "Deutsche Bank Sued For Running An "International Criminal Organization" In Italian Court"(see Post #183734). Well currently Deutsche bank is being prosecuted in the US courts about their precious metal manipulation.

This is an important court case to keep our eyes on its development. Hopefully, as a result of this, we probably will start seeing the prices of precious metals going up (or be adjusted) to regain their true value. Many economist & financial experts has been talking about this day for a long time and a necessary step to return to the gold standard.

Deutsche Bank Admits Guilt In Fraud Conspiracy To Rig Precious Metals Markets

http://thedailycoin.org/2017/06/02/deuts...metals-markets/
June 2nd 2017
Quote:
After months of “smoking guns” and conspiracy theory dismissals, a Singapore-based Deutsche Bank trader (at the center of fraud allegations) finally confirmed (by admitting guilt) what many have suspected – the biggest banks in the world have conspired to rig precious metals markets.

The Deutsche Bank trader, David Liew, pleaded guilty in federal court in Chicago to conspiring to spoof gold, silver, platinum and palladium futures, according to court papers. Bloomberg notes that spoofing involves traders placing orders that they never intend to fill, in an attempt to manipulate the price….

Deutsche Bank declined to comment.


Deutsche Bank is the fall guy. All the central banks are in on the manipulation of precious metals. The governments have OK'ed many years ago the buying and selling of "paper" gold. What I mean by that is you can speculate on gold by buying and selling interest in gold funds. Those gold funds don't actually have the gold they buy and sell.

What the central banks have been doing is selling off massive amounts of this "paper gold" to depress gold prices and silver prices. This is basically government manipulation of the precious metals markets as the money used is basically fictitious, meaning they just print it up as they need it. It has no basis in real wealth. The Federal Reserve is doing the same thing with government debt and the US dollar. There are several countries around the world that are dumping US dollars in massive quantities and yet the dollar is remaining relatively stable in value. How? Because some US government organization is buying all those dollars back and then just black-holing them. They just drop out of the monetary systems altogether. What that means is that no one knows exactly how many US dollars are in circulation, or the real value of the dollar, for the more dollars in circulation that are not backed by real wealth the less value they really have.

To confirm this manipulation listen to the latest half-dozen or so interviews of financial experts by Greg Hunter on USAWatchdog.com.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/05/17 04:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Apparently 2017 is the year that Mystery Babylon should fall.
Well you could be right, this year. Since it didn't happen in 2012,....etc.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/05/17 05:20 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Apparently 2017 is the year that Mystery Babylon should fall.
Well you could be right, this year. Since it didn't happen in 2012,....etc.


thumbsup
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/05/17 06:48 PM

My comment : There's lots of news. The following two posts are two things Trump did for the PEOPLE while breaking further away from the DEEP STATE (Mystery Babylon) New World order.

This first is news from April 26th when Trump signed the Antiquity Act that releases millions of acres from the control of the Federal Government and giving it back to the people.

President Trump signs Antiquity Act executive order

April 26th 2017
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off...antiquities-act

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2017/04/27/president-trump-signs-executive-order-antiquities-act
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The previous administration used a 100-year-old law known as the Antiquities Act to unilaterally put millions of acres of land and water under strict federal control, eliminating the ability of the people who actually live in those states to decide how best to use that land.

The Antiquities Act does not give the federal government unlimited power to lock up millions of acres of land and water, and it is time we ended this abusive practice.

This executive order will end this egregious abuse of federal power, and give that power back to the states and to the people, where it belongs.


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/05/17 07:47 PM

My comment : The second huge news that just occur, is Trump pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord. The first article is a general account of the agreement. The second article stating what is really behind the DECEPTIVE Paris Climate accord which is a Genocide against Plants and a depopulation agenda. I recommend to read the article from the source link as Natural News provided lots of video clips. I've brought only one these video clip here.

Trump pulls U.S. out of “non-binding” Paris Climate Accord — Here’s why he was right to do it
http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-06-01-tr...t-to-do-it.html

June 1st 2017
Natural News
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"In making the announcement from the White House Rose Garden Thursday afternoon, Trump stated that he felt obligated to withdraw from the agreement — which should have been sent to the U.S. Senate by Obama to be ratified as a treaty, because that’s what it was, in both style and substance — because it is “a bad deal” for American workers, taxpayers and companies."

"Trump also knocked the cost of the agreement — which will rise to some $450 billion a year, much of which would have to come from the U.S. — while major polluters who are also signatories to the deal do not have to comply with the accords’ emissions limitations for more than a decade. Meanwhile, the U.S. has to comply immediately."

"Also, he said, the agreement prohibited the U.S. from “conducting its own domestic economic affairs” by preventing the development of our own natural resources, like clean coal and natural gas, both of which create far fewer emissions than other forms of energy."

"A study of the agreement by the Heritage Foundation, released in April 2016, found that the agreement would have resulted in the adoption of government policies that dramatically increased electricity costs for a family of four between 13 and 20 percent annually. In addition, the analysis found that American families would lose out on some $20,000 in income by 2035, regressive (not progressive) economic policies that no doubt would hit the nation’s poorest the hardest."

Quote:
(Natural News) Far-Left Democrats and so-called “environmentalists” who still believe the global warming hoax are furious at President Donald J. Trump for keeping his campaign pledge to withdraw the United States from the “non-binding” Paris Climate Accords signed onto by the Obama administration.

But perhaps after they calm down and allow their blood pressure to return to normal, they can take a rational, reasoned look at why the president made his decision; if they afford him that courtesy, there is no way they can conclude that his decision was wrong.

In making the announcement from the White House Rose Garden Thursday afternoon, Trump stated that he felt obligated to withdraw from the agreement — which should have been sent to the U.S. Senate by Obama to be ratified as a treaty, because that’s what it was, in both style and substance — because it is “a bad deal” for American workers, taxpayers and companies. (RELATED: The Paris Climate Accord is GENOCIDE against plants, forests and all life on our planet)

Trump also knocked the cost of the agreement — which will rise to some $450 billion a year, much of which would have to come from the U.S. — while major polluters who are also signatories to the deal do not have to comply with the accords’ emissions limitations for more than a decade. Meanwhile, the U.S. has to comply immediately.

The president also lashed out at his critics who said pulling out of the deal would be a disaster for the country, noting that remaining in the agreement would cost American families and businesses billions per year. Also, he said, the agreement prohibited the U.S. from “conducting its own domestic economic affairs” by preventing the development of our own natural resources, like clean coal and natural gas, both of which create far fewer emissions than other forms of energy.

“I was elected to represent the people of Pittsburg, not Paris,” Trump said. “It’s time to pursue a new deal that protects” the environment, as well as the American people.

Trump, according to various experts and analyses, was right to withdraw from the current agreement as written.

“Through a litany of regulations stemming from the agreement, Obama has essentially offered up the U.S. economy as a sacrificial lamb to further his own legacy,” Americans for Tax Reform noted Wednesday in a post on its website. “Sadly, the agreement will not just hurt the country’s growth as a whole, but will trickle down to low-and-middle income Americans. As a result of the agreement, energy costs will skyrocket, in turn raising the cost of utility bills for families and increasing the costs of consumer goods.” (RELATED: UN official actually ADMITS that ‘global warming’ is a scam designed to ‘change world’s economic model’)

A study of the agreement by the Heritage Foundation, released in April 2016, found that the agreement would have resulted in the adoption of government policies that dramatically increased electricity costs for a family of four between 13 and 20 percent annually. In addition, the analysis found that American families would lose out on some $20,000 in income by 2035, regressive (not progressive) economic policies that no doubt would hit the nation’s poorest the hardest. [Meanwhile, we’re sure that Obama won’t have any trouble paying his electric bill, no matter what it costs]

Other analysts, as Trump noted in his speech, noted that the loss of U.S. annual gross domestic product would be close to $3 trillion by 2035, while reducing employment in the U.S. by about 400,000 jobs, half of which would be in manufacturing.

But perhaps most galling of all is the fact that even the far Left admitted that the agreement would accomplish virtually nothing — and certainly was not the global carbon emissions destroyer its principle advocates made it out to be.

Politico Europe reported:

In fact, emissions reductions are barely on the table at all. Instead, the talks are rigged to ensure an agreement is reached regardless of how little action countries plan to take. The developing world, projected to account for four-fifths of all carbon-dioxide emissions this century, will earn applause for what amounts to a promise to stay on their pre-existing trajectory of emissions-intensive growth.

As Trump said, “The agreement is a massive redistribution of wealth from the U.S. to other countries.”

There is no good reason to remain in it, just as there was no good reason for Obama to have signed it.


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The Paris Climate Accord is GENOCIDE against plants, forests and all life on our planet

http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-06-01-th...ife-planet.html
June 1st 2017
Quote:
(Natural News) The primary goal of the Paris Climate Accord — the reduction of atmospheric carbon dioxide — is nothing less than genocide against all plant life across our planet.

That’s because all plants depend on CO2 for their very survival. It’s the “oxygen” for plants, and right now trees, grasses and food crops are starving for CO2 because it sits at nearly the lowest level it has ever been in the history of the Earth (barely above 400 ppm now, when it used to be over 7,000 ppm in the past).

Humans attempting to eliminate CO2 from the atmosphere is equivalent to some evil, fictional “plant demon” attempting to eliminate oxygen from the atmosphere, causing the mass asphyxiation of the entire human race. Just as eliminating oxygen is genocide against humans, eliminating carbon dioxide is genocide against plants.

Much like everything else pushed by scientifically illiterate bureaucrats and globalists, climate change is a global narrative of the destruction of life. If the climate change terrorists achieve their goals, they will DESTROY the planetary food chain and plunge all life on Earth — including human life — into a mass die-off. Depopulation is the goal, you see. Eliminating CO2 from the atmosphere has always been about destroying human life in order to achieve the population reduction goals openly espoused by every liberal globalist from Bill Gates to Ted Turner.

You can’t SAVE the planet by MURDERING all plants

As I explain in my science video below, you can’t “save” the planet by murdering all plant life. The planet needs higher CO2 and more rainfall to support more reforestation, more food production and the transformation of deserts into food producing regions. Increased rainfall is caused by warmer global temperatures which increase ocean water evaporation and make the land masses of the planet “wetter.”

A wetter, greener planet with more plant life supports more biodiversity, animal sustainability and self-reliant food production in developing nations. A warmer, greener planet, in other words, solves most of the problems now plaguing humankind including food scarcity, desertification, and shortages of fresh water supplies.

No wonder the evil, destructive globalists don’t want the planet to be warmer with higher CO2 levels: They despise all life and they actively seek to depopulate the planet of humans. The insane, anti-life globalists want Earth to be colder, dryer and devoid of the very plants and ecosystems that support the production of food and medicine. (Why do they want more ice everywhere? Wouldn’t green ecosystems be better than frozen wastelands? Why do climate change alarmists hyperventilate when they hear that icebergs are melting?) They all want Earth to be a dead planet, in other words, as a means to commit mass genocide against all life.

Real conservationists and scientists like myself want to increase sustainable life on our planet, which is why we support a warmer, greener and more lush planet with increased rainfall, faster food production and higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere. If you love nature, you will join us in supporting the molecule that Mother Nature needs to flourish: Carbon dioxide.

The Paris Climate Accord is a genocide treaty and a declaration of war against Mother Nature and planet Earth.


Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/06/17 09:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : The second huge news that just occur, is Trump pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord. The first article is a general account of the agreement. The second article stating what is really behind the DECEPTIVE Paris Climate accord which is a Genocide against Plants and a depopulation agenda.

The Paris Climate Accord is a genocide treaty and a declaration of war against Mother Nature and planet Earth.
The same thing happened with the USA when they backed out of The Kyoto Accord and that was what? ten years ago, atleast. I am not sure we can believe most of what is being printed about this topic.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/06/17 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By: The Wanderer
Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : The second huge news that just occur, is Trump pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord. The first article is a general account of the agreement. The second article stating what is really behind the DECEPTIVE Paris Climate accord which is a Genocide against Plants and a depopulation agenda.

The Paris Climate Accord is a genocide treaty and a declaration of war against Mother Nature and planet Earth.
The same thing happened with the USA when they backed out of The Kyoto Accord and that was what? ten years ago, atleast. I am not sure we can believe most of what is being printed about this topic.

Tx for mentioning it, I wasn't aware of the Kyoto Accord. The brief reading I did, the US dropped the Kyoto Accord to put pressure on China to take their "fair" share of the tab. The Paris Climate Accord was to replace the Kyoto Accord that was dropped in 2012.

I think the reasons the US dropped the Paris Accord is a whole different situation than what happened about 10 years ago. The US is calling for a fairer agreement.

Whatever Mystery Babylon put together....you can be sure that there is a lot of deception & corruption that serve only the Deep State's Agenda(and not the people of the world) and that takes away the Nation's sovereignty in some levels.

Both the Kyoto and the Paris Climate accord needs to be replaced with a NEW & fair accord between all nations that addresses real pollution and will increase our CO2 levels for the plant's health around the earth.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/07/17 08:21 PM

"that addresses real pollution"

Yes! Notice not much is being said about pollution anymore. It's all about air. Hot air.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/09/17 06:30 PM

My comment : Jim Willie & his crew has observe the same thing for a long time that the banks were buying up just about everything to keep the system from crashing. Since the banksters has the ability to pump the markets ....they also have the ability to crash the system at their opportune timing. In all of this, it is the Lord that has the last word and is not limited is able to change the geopolitical environment. We will see how things will play out for the remaining of 2017.

Central Banks Now Own Stocks And Bonds Worth Trillions – And They Could Crash The Markets By Selling Them
http://www.wealthydebates.com/central-ba...y-selling-them/
June 8th 2017
Quote:
MICHAEL SNYDER–Have you ever wondered why stocks just seem to keep going up no matter what happens? For years, financial markets have been behaving in ways that seem to defy any rational explanation, but once you understand the role that central banks have been playing everything begins to make sense. In the aftermath of the great financial crisis of 2008, global central banks began to buy stocks, bonds and other financial assets in very large quantities and they haven’t stopped since. In fact, as you will see below, global central banks are on pace to buy 3.6 trillion dollars worth of stocks and bonds this year alone. At this point, the Swiss National Bank owns more publicly-traded shares of Facebook than Mark Zuckerberg does, and the Bank of Japan is now a top-five owner in 81 different large Japanese firms. These global central banks are shamelessly pumping up global stock markets, but because they now have such vast holdings they could also cause a devastating global stock market crash simply by starting to sell off their portfolios.

Over the years I have often been asked about the “plunge protection team”, but the truth is that global central banks are the real “plunge protection team”. If stocks start surging higher on any particular day for seemingly no reason, it is probably the work of a central bank. Because they can inject billions of dollars into the markets whenever they want, that essentially allows them to “play god” and move the markets in any direction that they please.

But of course what they have done is essentially destroy the marketplace. A “free market” for stocks basically no longer exists because of all this central bank manipulation. I really like how Bruce Wilds made this point…

Quote:
One indication of just how messed up and flawed the global markets have become is reflected in the way central banks across the world are now buying stocks. This has become a part of their response to correcting the forces of past excesses. Their incursion into this bastion of the free markets signals we have entered the era where true price discovery no longer exists. The central banks are often viewed as price-insensitive buyers, so this incestuous influx of money is in some ways the ultimate distortion.
According to Business Insider, global central banks are on pace to purchase an astounding 3.6 trillion dollars in stocks and bonds in 2017.

Overall, the five largest global central banks now collectively have 14.6 trillion dollars in assets on their balance sheets.

You can call this a lot of things, but it certainly isn’t free market capitalism.

The Swiss National Bank is one of the biggest offenders. During just the first three months of this year, it bought 17 billion dollars worth of U.S. stocks, and that brought the overall total that the Swiss National Bank is currently holding to more than $80 billion.

Have you ever wondered why shares of Apple just seem to keep going up and up and up?

Well, the Swiss National Bank bought almost 4 million shares of Apple during the months of January, February and March.

And as I mentioned above, the Swiss National Bank “now owns more publicly-traded shares in Facebook than Mark Zuckerberg”…

Quote:
Switzerland’s central bank now owns more publicly-traded shares in Facebook than Mark Zuckerberg, part of a mushrooming stock portfolio that is likely to grow yet further.

The tech giant’s founder and CEO has other ways to control his company: Zuckerberg holds most of his stake in a different class of stock. Nevertheless this example illustrates how the Swiss National Bank has become a multi-billion-dollar equity investor due to its campaign to hold down the Swiss franc.

It is now the world’s eighth-biggest public investor, data from the Official Monetary and Financial Institutions Forum show.

But as shameless as the Swiss National Bank has been, the Bank of Japan is even worse.

Today, the Nikkei is essentially a giant sham. The Bank of Japan regularly goes in and just starts buying up everything in sight, and according to Bloomberg they are on pace to become the largest shareholder in dozens of the most prominent Japanese corporations by the end of 2017…

Quote:
Already a top-five owner of 81 companies in Japan’s Nikkei 225 Stock Average, the BOJ is on course to become the No. 1 shareholder in 55 of those firms by the end of next year, according to estimates compiled by Bloomberg from the central bank’s exchange-traded fund holdings.
If global central banks have the power to pump up these markets, they also have the power to crash them.

Why would they want to do such a thing?

I can answer that question with just two words…

Donald Trump.

If the Comey angle doesn’t work, the elite could try to destroy Trump by engineering an absolutely devastating stock market crash. Close to half the U.S. population dislikes Trump anyway, and so it would be fairly easy to get them to believe that Trump’s policies have caused a new financial crisis. Of course that would be complete nonsense, but in our society today the truth often doesn’t really matter.

And without a doubt, evidence continues to mount that the real economy is starting to slow down substantially. For example, we just learned that bankruptcies surged once again in May. The following comes from Wolf Richter…

Quote:
So here we go again. Total US business bankruptcies in May rose 4.7% year-over-year to 3,572 filings, according to the American Bankruptcy Institute. That’s up 40% from May 2015 and up 10% from May 2014.

And there’s another concern: Bankruptcy filings are highly seasonal. They peak in tax season – March or April – and then fall off. The decline in April after the peak in March was within that seasonal pattern. Over the past years, filings dropped in May. But not this year.
Without unprecedented intervention by global central banks, financial markets would have crashed long ago.

And if they keep increasing their purchases of stocks and bonds, the central banks may be able to prop things up for a while longer.

Who knows? Perhaps with enough financial engineering they would be able to keep this bubble going for years. Of course things would start to get really awkward once they eventually owned virtually everything, but I have a feeling that things will never get that far.

I have a feeling that global central banks will eventually find an excuse to start “unwinding their balance sheets”, and I have a feeling that it will be at a time that is highly inconvenient for President Trump.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/13/17 07:47 AM

My comment : Bitcoin has reached incredible popularity & value this past few months. Now there's many new types of bitcoin surfacing that is competing. Jim Willie talks about it in this recent interview. Since a bitcoin unit cannot be measured and have no gold backing, he doesn't see it as a long term solution for the new economic system. However, the blockchain technology which is the gut of bitcoin will be used probably to created a gold-backed crypto currency. He believes that as soon that a gold-backed crypto currency will be released; then bitcoin and the fiat currencies will loose it's popularity. Also, he thinks that the highly secure blockchain technology used for interchanging Bitcoins will be used in the future to exchange sensitive private information between any two parties.
Gold-Backed Cryptocurrencies Will Eliminate Dollar | Jim Willie
June 7, 2017
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/13/17 08:17 AM

My comment: Currently, Russia is working with the founder of Ethereum which is another block chain technology that is also gaining lots of attention. This is more in the level of exchanging sensitive documents, contracts, blue prints, etc... that Russia will be first testing and implementing in their country. Also, they are considering using the Ethereum technology for their own currency that will be gold-backed. So Russia is cutting the road for the blockchain technology to be implemented nationwide.

Putin Meets With Ethereum Founder To Create National Virtual Currency

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-12...irtual-currency
June 12, 2017

------------some extracted quotes ----------------------

"Putin met Ethereum's young founder Vitalik Buterin on the sidelines of the St. Petersburg Economic Forum last week and supported his plans to build contacts with local partners to implement blockchain technology in Russia, according to a statement on Kremlin’s website.

"Speaking at the Economic Forum, Putin said that "the digital economy isn’t a separate industry, it’s essentially the foundation for creating brand new business model" and discussed means to boost growth long-term after Russia ended its worst recession in two decades. As explained repeatedly over the past 6 months, besides being a method of exchange, Ethereum is also a ledger for everything from currency contracts to property rights, speeding up business by cutting out intermediaries such as public notaries. It also does not suffer from some of the size limitations that have paralyzed bitcoin in recent months.

"Adoption of Ethereum in Russia has been brisk also in the private sector: last week, Bloomberg reports that Russia’s state development bank VEB agreed to start using Ethereum for some administrative functions. Steelmaker Severstal PJSC tested Ethereum’s blockchain for secure transfer of international credit letters.

"Blockchain may have the same effect on businesses that the emergence on the internet once had -- it would change business models, and eliminate intermediaries such as escrow agents and clerks,” said Vlad Martynov, an adviser for The Ethereum Foundation, a non-profit organization that backs the cryptocurrency. “If Russia implements it first, it will gain similar advantages to those the Western countries did at the start of the internet age.”


Quote:
Two weeks ago, in our latest comparison of Bitcoin and its up and coming competitor, Ethereum, we said "step aside bitcoin, there is a new blockchain kid in town." Actually, we said that for the first time back in February when Ethereum was still trading in the low teens (the return on ETH since then is roughly 3000%), but the most recent glance provided some perspective on where the competition between the two largest cryptocurrencies may culminate, because according to at least two venture capitalists, the market cap of Ethereum - currently roughly $35 bilion - and whose share of the market has been soaring, will surpass that of Bitcoin, at ~$43 billion although it changes by the second, sometime before the end of 2018.

Two things: first, at the current rate of gains in Ethereum market share (and loss in Bitcoin's), the inflection point between the two will come not in months, or weeks, but perhaps days.

Second, said inflection point may come in even faster if Vladimir Putin has anything to say about it, because as Bloomberg reports, "Ethereum has caught the attention of none other than the Russian president as a potential tool to help Russia diversify its economy beyond oil and gas." Putin met Ethereum's young founder Vitalik Buterin on the sidelines of the St. Petersburg Economic Forum last week and supported his plans to build contacts with local partners to implement blockchain technology in Russia, according to a statement on Kremlin’s website.

Speaking at the Economic Forum, Putin said that "the digital economy isn’t a separate industry, it’s essentially the foundation for creating brand new business model" and discussed means to boost growth long-term after Russia ended its worst recession in two decades. As explained repeatedly over the past 6 months, besides being a method of exchange, Ethereum is also a ledger for everything from currency contracts to property rights, speeding up business by cutting out intermediaries such as public notaries. It also does not suffer from some of the size limitations that have paralyzed bitcoin in recent months.

Furthermore, just like the western Enterprise Ethereum Alliance which consists of JPMorgan, Intel, Microsoft and other leading blue chips, Russia’s central bank has already deployed an Ethereum-based blockchain as a pilot project to process online payments and verify customer data with lenders including Sberbank PJSC, Deputy Governor Olga Skorobogatova said at the St. Petersburg event. She didn’t rule out using Ethereum technologies for the development of a national virtual currency for Russia down the road.

Adoption of Ethereum in Russia has been brisk also in the private sector: last week, Bloomberg reports that Russia’s state development bank VEB agreed to start using Ethereum for some administrative functions. Steelmaker Severstal PJSC tested Ethereum’s blockchain for secure transfer of international credit letters.

Blockchain may have the same effect on businesses that the emergence on the internet once had -- it would change business models, and eliminate intermediaries such as escrow agents and clerks,” said Vlad Martynov, an adviser for The Ethereum Foundation, a non-profit organization that backs the cryptocurrency. “If Russia implements it first, it will gain similar advantages to those the Western countries did at the start of the internet age.”

What about price targets? Pavel Matveev, co-founder of Wirex told CNBC today that Ethereum could reach $600 by the end of the year, leaving bitcoin in the dust. Until just a few short weeks ago, such a forecast would seem ludicrous. However, considering the recent surge in ethereum prices - recall it hit an all time high of $412 earlier today before sharply dropping then again erasing virtually all losses - it may reach that particular target in just a few weeks.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/13/17 08:38 AM

My comment : Looks like the Vatican is starting to be more public in revealing who they really worship -- Lucifer. Check also the new Vatican hall capable of holding 6300 people that is shaped as a serpent's head with fangs and scales ...
[img]https://goo.gl/images/hB6ymZ[/img]

Is the Vatican now exposing its heart?

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...sing-its-heart/
Stephen Jones
June 10th, 2017
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In last century, Albert Pike, an avowed Luciferian, became the head of Scottish Rite Freemasonry. Although Freemasonry was publicly outlawed by the Vatican, there is disturbing evidence that it was actually controlled by the Vatican, at least since the late 1700’s, if not before.

Washington D.C., for instance, was constructed in the 1790’s by a French Catholic Freemason, L’Enfante, who designed it in honor of Venus. Venus’s biblical name is Lucifer.

We are now coming to a climax of history, when Luciferians are making their move to unveil their god as the true god. According to them, Lucifer was either the older brother of Jesus, or Jesus’ father. They say Lucifer was cast out of heaven unjustly, and that Jesus is the usurper who replaced him.

Some years ago, I first took notice of Luciferian influence when I heard about the Vatican’s big telescope on Mount Graham. It was named L.U.C.I.F.E.R., an acronym for Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research. Someone really had to work hard to come up with this acronym, but it must have been important to them to name it LUCIFER.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Binocular_Telescope

The name was shortened to LUCI in 2012, probably so that its connection to Lucifer would not be so obvious. See also:

https://redice.tv/news/vatican-tied-mount-graham-observatory-launches-lucifer-telescope

The question, of course, was just how serious the Vatican took Lucifer. Was this just some ignorant humor, or was it evidence of something deeper?

Then at the 2012 and/or 2013 Easter ceremony in the Vatican, the cantor sang praise to Lucifer at the ceremony elevating two popes to sainthood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpVrtv2t-M

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pope-francis-invokes-lucifer-easter-mass-2013/

The lyric of the song, to which all sang: AMEN, is translated from Latin this way:

His flame dawning His own creation,
May I say, O Lucifer, who knows no setting,
Christ is your Son, who came back from the dead
And shed His peaceful light to the human race,
And is alive and reigns forever and ever.
Amen.

There is a certain amount of plausible deniability built into this, of course. They could always argue that the reference to Lucifer is just a metaphor for Venus, and by extension, the light-bearer (phos-phorus in Greek). But to say that Lucifer is the creator and that “Christ is your Son,” puts Lucifer as the parent of Christ, as if either Lucifer is His father, or Venus is His mother. Either way, it is disturbing. If we connect this to the Freemasonic and Luciferian obsession with Venus, it seems that the Vatican is expressing Luciferian religion. Surely their scholars understand that any reference to Lucifer is going to connect them to Luciferianism.

Finally, look at the Snake design in the Vatican hall, seen at the 3:40 mark of this 6-minute video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WC-pVdGgK4

The architect of this design knew precisely what he was doing. He spent years pondering every detail, because the Vatican itself does nothing without thinking long and hard about it. So we must ask ourselves why would the Roman Church deliberately design a hall where the pope on the platform is looking directly at the head of a serpent? Are they going to try to convince us that this is the serpent in the wilderness, which, when raised on the pole, is a type of Christ?

The Vatican has always been very good at double meanings, one for public consumption, and the other for private worship.

Since we are now in 2017, which, in my view, will begin to see the fall of the final beast in the long series of nations foretold by Daniel and John, we have to watch the Vatican and Jerusalem for signs of the end. Is the Vatican slowly getting people used to the idea of Lucifer being the true god? Are they slowly exposing their own hearts? Are we now in a transitional period where Lucifer will soon be proclaimed, not merely by a cantor, but by papal decree to be the father of Jesus? Who was it that fathered Jesus in Matthew’s account?

Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/13/17 09:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Finally, look at the Snake design in the Vatican hall, seen at the 3:40 mark of this 6-minute video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WC-pVdGgK4

The architect of this design knew precisely what he was doing. He spent years pondering every detail, because the Vatican itself does nothing without thinking long and hard about it. So we must ask ourselves why would the Roman Church deliberately design a hall where the pope on the platform is looking directly at the head of a serpent? Are they going to try to convince us that this is the serpent in the wilderness, which, when raised on the pole, is a type of Christ?

The Vatican has always been very good at double meanings, one for public consumption, and the other for private worship.

Since we are now in 2017, which, in my view, will begin to see the fall of the final beast in the long series of nations foretold by Daniel and John, we have to watch the Vatican and Jerusalem for signs of the end. Is the Vatican slowly getting people used to the idea of Lucifer being the true god? Are they slowly exposing their own hearts? Are we now in a transitional period where Lucifer will soon be proclaimed, not merely by a cantor, but by papal decree to be the father of Jesus? Who was it that fathered Jesus in Matthew’s account?

It looks photo-shopped. IDK how people can believe this only on the basis it is "news." I would need to see much clearer evidence to swallow even half of whats on the links provided in this post.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/13/17 11:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Finally, look at the Snake design in the Vatican hall, seen at the 3:40 mark of this 6-minute video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WC-pVdGgK4

The architect of this design knew precisely what he was doing. He spent years pondering every detail, because the Vatican itself does nothing without thinking long and hard about it. So we must ask ourselves why would the Roman Church deliberately design a hall where the pope on the platform is looking directly at the head of a serpent? Are they going to try to convince us that this is the serpent in the wilderness, which, when raised on the pole, is a type of Christ?

The Vatican has always been very good at double meanings, one for public consumption, and the other for private worship.

Since we are now in 2017, which, in my view, will begin to see the fall of the final beast in the long series of nations foretold by Daniel and John, we have to watch the Vatican and Jerusalem for signs of the end. Is the Vatican slowly getting people used to the idea of Lucifer being the true god? Are they slowly exposing their own hearts? Are we now in a transitional period where Lucifer will soon be proclaimed, not merely by a cantor, but by papal decree to be the father of Jesus? Who was it that fathered Jesus in Matthew’s account?



Originally Posted By: The Wanderer
It looks photo-shopped. IDK how people can believe this only on the basis it is "news." I would need to see much clearer evidence to swallow even half of whats on the links provided in this post.

If you are referring to the video Stephen Jones provided as a reference about the Vatican Hall. The youtube video is only a reference and short description of it. It doesn't mean every thing that person is saying is inspired and you should follow all of his leadings and etc... As Christians we should be very familiar that we are to use the gift of discernment that is only obtain via the Holy Spirit.

However, if you are referring that the Vatican Hall is not design in the shape of a snake head.....

Did you do a proper investigation before posting this?

I've seen many pictures, videos... I think you should take a second look.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/13/17 09:38 PM

Originally Posted By: The Wanderer
It looks photo-shopped. IDK how people can believe this only on the basis it is "news." I would need to see much clearer evidence to swallow even half of whats on the links provided in this post.


And your evidence for saying that is a photoshopped picture is? Wanderer thinks....

Here is a link to the exact same picture taken from an architectural website that focuses directly upon the architecture, and only the architecture of the building. The photo is in a slideshow that you must scoll down to find.

http://www.arcvision.org/paolo-vi-audience-hall-in-vatican-city/?lang=en

Your "evidence" is truly less than overwhelming.
Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/13/17 10:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Gary K
Originally Posted By: The Wanderer
It looks photo-shopped. IDK how people can believe this only on the basis it is "news." I would need to see much clearer evidence to swallow even half of whats on the links provided in this post.

And your evidence for saying that is a photoshopped picture is? Wanderer thinks....

Here is a link to the exact same picture taken from an architectural website that focuses directly upon the architecture, and only the architecture of the building. The photo is in a slideshow that you must scoll down to find.
http://www.arcvision.org/paolo-vi-audience-hall-in-vatican-city/?lang=en
Your "evidence" is truly less than overwhelming.
Actually, I did not provide anything that I claimed was/is evidence. I did not claim any evidence of any kind for any reason. I also did not say what I thought was photo-shopped in the video link we were referenced to. Looks like you are putting the cart before the horse here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cart_before_the_horse
Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/13/17 11:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle

The Vatican has always been very good at double meanings, one for public consumption, and the other for private worship.

I've seen many pictures, videos... I think you should take a second look.
Yes, I agree about the "double-meanings," as long as its not just applied to the denomination of "Roman Catholic." There are many denominations that also do this kind of thing. imagery and symbolism are important to most churches, and it's not inherently "wrong" just because we think we see some sort of 'evil" in the art form at question. Conspiracy theories are not able to provide evidence, except for the anecdotal type. Others do not see what is being claimed here. I hope no one here is trying to "bring a time of trouble upon us before it is actually necessary?"
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let our workers be careful to speak guardedly at all times and under all circumstances. Let all beware lest by reckless expressions they bring on a time of trouble before the great crisis which is to try men's souls. We should remember that the world will judge us by what we appear to be. Let those who are seeking to represent Christ be careful not to exhibit inconsistent features of character...{CCh 317.1-2}
The video actually was edited extensively "for public use."
Quote:
This video was recorded by Mikael Askergren with an iPhone 4 during the Pope’s public audience at the large Aula Paolo VI assembly hall in the Vatican, September 15, 2010. The video was edited and screened for the general public for the first time during a seminar about religion and art arranged by Supermarket Art Fair 2011 at Kulturhuset (The House of Culture) in Stockholm, Sweden, February 18, 2011.
http://askergren.com/religioniskitsch.html
The art work pictured in the Vatican Audience Hall, and in the video thereof, it may seem creepy to some, but its really quite innocuous to myself, and many others. In this case, there would be nothing "wrong" with viewing this art/video as having historic importance for art, music, and architecture.If you want to sacrifice expression for the sake of other concerns, including wild-eyed, unverified conspiracy theories; you're definitely putting the cart before the horse, and distorting Bible prophecy in verity.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/14/17 03:49 AM

The wanderer, I have no problem if you do not see a snake head in the Vatican Hall architecture. I myself see one and I wouldn't be surprised that there's many others who do also.

I'm not the type to put down other religions or any brothers or sisters. To me no one religion or individual is better than another. However, to my view I see in the events that Mystery Babylon is executing their plan trying to bring about their New World Order thru wars and conflicts. I believe the Lord will allow them to bring about to its fullest their manifestation of the "man of sin".

That's my purpose of bringing out these events as these could show us where we stand in the fulfillment of prophesy as we approach the end of the destruction of Mystery Babylon.

Do you have any problem with the Vatican singing a song of praise to Lucifer and calling him the Father of Jesus?

Knowing the Albert Pike plan (see Post #137287) that Mystery Babylon is implementing to bring the Lucifer faith while destroying all other religions including all of Christianity; my view is they have been preparing the people to accept Luciferian faith and Lucifer himself. That's why I perceive the Vatican is following the program by declaring Lucifer above Jesus and praising Lucifer.

Again, to me I see Pike's plan that is being fulfilled and is on track; but I do know many Adventists and other Christians that don't believe in any conspiracy as such. So I will understand & respect if that is your current belief.

FYI, below is Albert Pikes 3 steps plan via wars to bring about the Luciferian religion. The key paragraph is the last one (you'll have to scroll down). I have supersized & underline the text.

Quote:
The following was taken from link : http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1323/815/World_War_3_A_Foregone_Conclusion.html?currentSplittedPage=2

The planning for a third world war goes as far back as Washington enshrined 33rd degree leading Freemason Albert Pike in the 1800's. Here he lays out just exactly what the full intended accomplishment would entail, down to the doctrine of belief a New World Order would demand of its constituents.

Albert Pike received a vision, which he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place.

Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."

Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm." 3

After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.

(Readers who argue that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements. In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution. In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out. Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau - as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt.)

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…

We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization...

..and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
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Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/15/17 03:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
That's my purpose of bringing out these events as these could show us where we stand in the fulfillment of prophesy as we approach the end of the destruction of Mystery Babylon.
For now, I will just say that if one is depending upon "news" and web site links to discern "truth," they will always fail. Its more important to understand where we stand IN CHRIST than all these fuzzy details and conspiracy theories. When I think of how much energy and time is wasted by God's people on such sinking sand "truth" what little hair I have left just starts to curl. I sincerely don't understand how people can believe all this stuff, let alone prove it. What are we told in Scripture that we need to know thereof, where we stand???
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/18/17 11:30 AM

My commment : I have 3 recent articles about ISIS (aka ISIL, Daesh, Al Queada) with the collaboration of the US Military. ISIS is loosing the battle in the Middle-East and are almost completely removed from Syria and Iraq. Last week the US millitary increased their attacks where 300 civilians were killed by airstrike alone without counting those killed by on ground troops.

---------------Quoting from the article --------

"Mattis’ announcement that the U.S. would annihilate ISIS (and massacre civilians by the hundreds) is still somewhat dubious, considering video footage appears to have emerged of ISIS fighters fleeing the conflict in Raqqa safely despite the hundreds of bombs and white phosphorous loaded munitions U.S.-backed forces have been dropping over the city. It has been speculated that in reality, these ISIS fighters are being granted safe passage to put added pressure on the Syrian government, a longtime adversary of the United States.

Further, using a dangerous element like white phosphorous and burying over 300 civilians after approximately a week of fighting seems, on the face of it, to be nothing short of a blatant war crime."


The UN Just Accused The US Of Killing 300 Civilians Since Last Week In Raqqa

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-15/un-just-accused-us-killing-300-civilians-last-week-raqqa
Jun 15, 2017

Quote:
According to a U.N. Commission of Inquiry tasked with investigating violations of international war crimes and crimes against humanity in Syria, the intensification of airstrikes by the U.S.-led coalition has led to a “staggering loss of civilian life,” the Guardian reports.

The U.N. war crimes investigators found that since the acceleration of airstrikes in the Syrian city of Raqqa commenced last week, 300 civilians have already died. This statistic arguably makes Bashar al-Assad pale in comparison; Assad’s regime reportedly kills approximately 20-50 people in any given week.

“We note in particular that the intensification of air strikes, which have paved the ground for an SDF advance in Raqqa, has resulted not only in staggering loss of civilian life, but has also led to 160,000 civilians fleeing their homes and becoming internally displaced,” Paulo Pinheiro, the chairman of the U.N. Commission of Inquiry told the human rights council in Geneva.
According to Karen Abuzayd, an American commissioner on the independent panel, the figure of 300 is based only on deaths caused by airstrikes. Therefore, the figure of civilian deaths caused by troops on the ground may ultimately higher.

As the Guardian also notes, speculation that the coalition has been using white phosphorous has already drawn strong condemnation.

Not surprisingly, this operation was conducted with full knowledge that there would be mass suffering for the civilian population. At the end of May of this year, Secretary of Defense James “Mad Dog” Mattis announced that the U.S. would be switching to so-called “annihilation tactics” against ISIS, stating:

“Our intention is that the foreign fighters do not survive the fight to return home to North Africa, to Europe, to America, to Asia, to Africa, we are not going to allow them to do so…We are going to stop them there and take apart the caliphate.”

According to Mattis, civilian deaths “are a fact of life in this sort of situation.” However, Mattis did add that the U.S. military would “do everything humanly possible consistent with military necessity, taking many chances to avoid civilian casualties at all costs.”
Mattis’ announcement that the U.S. would annihilate ISIS (and massacre civilians by the hundreds) is still somewhat dubious, considering video footage appears to have emerged of ISIS fighters fleeing the conflict in Raqqa safely despite the hundreds of bombs and white phosphorous loaded munitions U.S.-backed forces have been dropping over the city. It has been speculated that in reality, these ISIS fighters are being granted safe passage to put added pressure on the Syrian government, a longtime adversary of the United States.

Further, using a dangerous element like white phosphorous and burying over 300 civilians after approximately a week of fighting seems, on the face of it, to be nothing short of a blatant war crime. The Commission of Inquiry and the mainstream media may not use the term “war crime” outright, but that is surely an inference one can draw from their calculations.

If anything, it would appear the U.S. is annihilating civilians — and not much else.



My comment : In the Philippines the US Military un-invited presence was found again aiding ISIS. (Read the details at this article link : here)

Whereas in Afghanistan, we read ISIS-Daesh has taken hold of the caves of Tora Bora. This last development is quite important because it challenges directly both China & Russia National security.

We know that the US Military and NATO presence are strong there using that country to produce cocaine so to traffick the drug worldwide which is a multi trillions industry. So we can count that they will aid ISIS-Daesh in afghanistan.

Here's why the Tora Bora caves are important.

-----quote extracted from the article ------

"In an interview with Sputnik Persian, Mollazehi said, "The region where the Tora Bora cave complex is located was personally equipped with the most advanced technology and radio electronics by Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda back when the Soviet troops entered Afghanistan."

Furthermore, the analyst said that there are armaments that are hid in the labyrinths of this cave.

"This complex is located in a remote mountain range and in fact is almost inaccessible from the point of view of a military assault," Mollazehi said.

He further said that the importance of this strategic region lies in the fact that it is connected to other important areas making it is easy to coordinate and control military operations in areas such as the Afghan Badakhshan, the Fergana valley towards Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

It is also possible to access paths leading to China's Xinjiang and Kashgar from Tora Bora.

"If Daesh plans an attack on China, it can be easily carried out from the cave of Tora Bora. It is even possible to reach Indian Kashmir from there," Mollazehi said.

According to the analyst, this region is extremely important for the Afghan authorities, US troops and Daesh because anyone who can assert their domination in Tora Bora will be able to change the course of war in their favor."


Daesh seizes Osama bin Laden's Tora Bora hideout, raising threat to Russia and China
https://www.sott.net/article/353990-Daes...ussia-and-China

Jun 17. 2017
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Daesh militants in Afghanistan have captured the Tora Bora cave complex in Nangarhar province, located near the border with Pakistan, Associated Press reported earlier this week.

This mountain range was once the stronghold of the late al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. The caves had until now been under Taliban control.

Abd Omar Khorasani, the commander of Daesh in Afghanistan, confirmed this report. He said that the terrorists have seized the caves and are now fighting with the Afghan government troops, which are supported by US Special Forces and the US Air Force.

Earlier, the Afghan army launched an offensive on Daesh, but so far it has not been possible to achieve any significant results.

The Afghan Ministry of Defense stated that the government troops will be able to take down the militants who captured the cave of Tora Bora in no time.

However, Iranian analyst Mollazehi Pir-Mohammad believes that Daesh have chosen an impregnable fortification and it will be impossible for the Afghan government troops to liberate Tora Bora.

In an interview with Sputnik Persian, Mollazehi said, "The region where the Tora Bora cave complex is located was personally equipped with the most advanced technology and radio electronics by Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda back when the Soviet troops entered Afghanistan."

Furthermore, the analyst said that there are armaments that are hid in the labyrinths of this cave.

"This complex is located in a remote mountain range and in fact is almost inaccessible from the point of view of a military assault," Mollazehi said.

He further said that the importance of this strategic region lies in the fact that it is connected to other important areas making it is easy to coordinate and control military operations in areas such as the Afghan Badakhshan, the Fergana valley towards Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

It is also possible to access paths leading to China's Xinjiang and Kashgar from Tora Bora.

"If Daesh plans an attack on China, it can be easily carried out from the cave of Tora Bora. It is even possible to reach Indian Kashmir from there," Mollazehi said.

According to the analyst, this region is extremely important for the Afghan authorities, US troops and Daesh because anyone who can assert their domination in Tora Bora will be able to change the course of war in their favor.

Since Daesh could supersede the Taliban and occupy this inaccessible underground fortress, Mollazehi said that he doubts that the government forces of Afghanistan will be able to force out the militants.

"Although the ISAF under the auspices of the US may carry out an air attack on this cave, they are unlikely to do so," he said.

He said that not so long ago, the US dropped the largest in its arsenal, non-nuclear bomb, called the 'mother of all bombs' in the province of Nangahar.

"The Americans wanted to destroy the Daesh terrorists. But now, when the militants have already captured the main underground bastion, we see how this action with the 'mother of all bombs' was ineffective," the analyst said.

He also noted that it is hardly worthwhile to hope that an increase in the American military contingent in Afghanistan will be able to somehow help fight the growing Daesh militants.

"The plans of the US and NATO is to turn Afghanistan into a springboard from which it is easy to carry out attacks by Daesh on Russia and China," Mollazehi concluded.

Afghanistan has been experiencing significant political, social and security-related instability for decades, as terrorist organizations, including the Taliban radical movement and Daesh continue to stage attacks against civilian and military targets.
Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/18/17 12:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My commment : I have 3 recent articles about ISIS (aka ISIL, Daesh, Al Queada) with the collaboration of the US

If anything, it would appear the U.S. is annihilating civilians — and not much else.

"The plans of the US and NATO is to turn Afghanistan into a springboard from which it is easy to carry out attacks by Daesh on Russia and China," Mollazehi concluded.

These "articles" are not proof. They are allegations and opinions.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/18/17 06:29 PM

Originally Posted By: The Wanderer
Originally Posted By: Elle
My commment : I have 3 recent articles about ISIS (aka ISIL, Daesh, Al Queada) with the collaboration of the US

If anything, it would appear the U.S. is annihilating civilians — and not much else.

"The plans of the US and NATO is to turn Afghanistan into a springboard from which it is easy to carry out attacks by Daesh on Russia and China," Mollazehi concluded.

These "articles" are not proof. They are allegations and opinions.

???
Originally Posted By: The Raqqa article
If anything, it would appear the U.S. is annihilating civilians — and not much else.

The quote above comes from the first article and not my statement. Please properly quote your source to avoid confusion. I'm sorry but I don't have time to deal with individuals that are only trying to create confusion or trolls or thread hi-jackers.

Concerning that article, I think the writer properly stated it by saying "it appear" as all that outsiders can go on is put together many pieces of what the other news articles that we've been seeing coming from the current event in Raqqa. No one will know the real truth of the matter until a proper thorough investigation is done. And I believe that this in the Lord's plan to come in the futur once Mystery Babylon has fallen...but I don't think we will see this in 2017. So 'till this proper investigation is done, we need to use our discernment while reading many articles on the subject.

Please Answer the following : Currently, I'm wondering Where do you read your news about what has happened in the Middle East? What is your position? I get mine from many places mainly PressTV (Iranian news), Spunik & RT (Russian news), and other sources like SOTT & zerohedge. I definetely do not get my news from mainstream Media(MSM).

Concerning the news about the Middle East that I check these sites regularly; there's so much daily news that cannot possibly be brought in this thread to give a proper picture about what goes on in the Middle East. This thread main focus is not on the Middle East News, but the fall of Mystery Babylon(their big World financial Squid system) and the coming New Global Economic Restructure. However, ISIS is Mystery Babylon main player for their END GAME WWIII plan that they are trying to initiate. So once in awhile I bring forth SUMMARY ARTICLES of the latest news that provides multiples links that anyone can see and investigate the subject further on their own if they wish.

I will admit that my discernment is not always point on....that's typical for anyone and we are all learning to better hear the Lord's voice and come to understand better what the Lord is doing with all these events.

if you, the wanderer, are a believer of MSM news and thinks their news reflect more the truth of the matter; then I understand why you do not agree with me posting news from RT, Spunik, PressTV, and other independent news sources.

I do agree that a proper investigation needs to be conducted by an international body that is independent from Mystery Babylon system. We've seen so many world wide crimes that went unchecked while the current system only provides "fake News" about it while providing immunity for these criminal offence to continue on terrorizing the world.

And your third quote comes from the Tora Bora Caves that ISIS took possession in Afghanistan.
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"The plans of the US and NATO is to turn Afghanistan into a springboard from which it is easy to carry out attacks by Daesh on Russia and China," Mollazehi concluded.

I see nothing wrong with this statement either. Mollazehi is an expert that was interviewed by Spunik who is aware about this site and he's entitled to expressed his opinion based on some facts that he knows of the strategic reasons why occupying these caves are important for ISIS. To me it makes geographical sense. However it doesn't mean that the events will mature to that point. We do not know what the Lord will pull with the events in the futur and how these other things will also change the geopolitical game. But it doesn't mean that Mr. Mollazehi opinion was incorrect because the Lord didn't mature things to that level. However, I think Mr Mollazehi point is something to watch and to take note how China and Russia will react towards this ISIS recent event in Afghanistan. That's my purpose to bring this article here to our attention and keep a watch on it.

'till the day when the Lord will brings all the truth on the table....we are all to watch these events as they unfold while filtering out the things that are dis-info, mis-represent, etc.... Christian will try to understand these in relation to what the Lord is doing with them and how they fit in His plan expressed in prophecies. While non-believers will expressed them within the scope of their knowledge of expertise. Both Christians and non-christians have their own biases and "heart idols" that can obscure their discernment. That's a normal phenomena for everyone. No one is free from personal biases, and we all have our own "heart idols" to identify and deal with. That's why we all have access to the Holy Spirit by which it is His job to correct us in His own timing.

There's nothing wrong for someone to express their discernment, and views whether they are Christian or not. I often personally do learn from their perspective. And what I think is something of worth to note...you may think it is something to ignore. That's ok and a normal phenomena. However, if you are someone that doesn't keep up with this type of news and are only looking for anything to throw some wrenches...then do what you must. But that day is soon coming when Mystery Babylon will be expose and the truth put on the table. I'm looking forward to it.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/18/17 06:52 PM

My comment : It is interesting to note that ISIS has been very adamant in destroying all Biblical historical sites while being in Syria and Iraq. This article is about the destruction of Jonas & Daniel tomb site that were pilgrimmage sites for all major faith like Christianity, Judaism, and Islam.

ISIS Destroys Jonah’s Tomb In Mosul, Iraq, As Militant Violence Continues
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/25/isis-jonah-tomb_n_5620520.html

July 25th, 2014
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The militant group ISIS is continuing its rampage of holy places by destroying the tomb of Jonah, a place thought to be the burial site of the prophet believed by Abrahamic faiths to have been swallowed by a whale or fish.

Civil defense officials in Mosul, Iraq, told CNN that ISIS operatives planted explosives around the mosque containing the tomb then detonated it remotely on Thursday.

A video posted to YouTube, the authenticity of which has not yet been confirmed, shows the destruction of the Sunni Mosque of the Prophet Younis, which is the Arabic name for Jonah. Though ISIS claims to adhere to the Sunni branch of Islam, they have nonetheless targeted multiple Sunni shrines, blowing up or bulldozing any place they deem “unIslamic.”

According to The Guardian, people living nearby the mosque told AP that ISIS members had declared that the holy site “had become a place for apostasy, not prayer.” The Imam Aoun Bin al-Hassan mosque was also destroyed on Thursday.

The tomb of Daniel, a man revered by Muslims as a prophet though unlike Jonah, he is not mentioned in the Quran, has also been reportedly destroyed. Al-Arabiya reports that Zuhair al-Chalabi, a local Mosul official, told Al-Samaria News that “ISIS implanted explosives around Prophet Daniel’s tomb in Mosul and blasted it, leading to its destruction.”

AFP reports that an anonymous official said, “Islamic State completely destroyed the shrine of Nabi Yunus after telling local families to stay away and closing the roads to a distance of 500 metres from the shrine.”

The tomb of Jonah was a popular place of pilgrimage for people who would come from around the world to see it, before the arrival of ISIS in Mosul. At the end of the video showing the destruction of Jonah’s tomb, a man can be heard saying,”No, no, no. Prophet Jonas is gone. God, these scoundrels,” according to NPR.

This latest act by ISIS shows their disregard for holy places, even Muslim ones from the Sunni sect they claim to hail from. Sam Hardy, a professor at the American University of Rome, told The Washington Post that he believes this shows that ISIS is willing to destroy, “basically pretty much anything in the Bible.” He added, “It indicates they are going for total eradication not just of their enemies but even of the possibility of people living together under their rule.”

Leila Fadel of NPR believes that ISIS’s destruction of shrines may be a big mistake when it comes to rallying other Muslim militant groups to its cause, especially considering that it previously declared an “Islamic caliphate.” She said, “it may cause a deep rift in the uneasy alliances the Sunni extremist group has made with other Sunni fighting groups marginalized.”

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/18/17 08:51 PM

My comment : Canada is fast moving towards fascism as we have seen by removing our freedom of speech with the 'Blasphemy' Bill To Silence Critics Of Islam (see Post#182914). Now Canada is passing the C-16 law that protects those with alternative sexual orientation???

Really, it's all about removing our freedom of speech in this country. I would recommend that you would watch the video of professor Peterson from University of Toronto who makes this points. The Youtube video link is inside that article below. It is interesting to watch how the students of the opposing view handle free Speech expressed by Peterson. I'm seeing first hand that our Children is being well trained in the art of fascism on unfounded grounds of victimization.

3 months ago I have posted this Nigel Farage video that was censored by you-tube. I just found another link. What Nigel expressed I have seen this in my own children who were homeschool for their first 9 years and only ended up in the Public schools in their last 3 years. I have noticed in my own children what Nigel expressed in this video.

UKIP Nigel Farage - The Young Generation That Shout 'Fascist' Are Fascist Themselves


Now Canada is passing laws to protect Transgenders, homosexuals, etc... Where's the laws to protect our Christian heritage that this nation was founded on? Why does Canada feels the needs to protect by laws unBiblical sexual orientations or the Islamic extremists agenda instead based on Old Covenant interpretation? Could there be an ulterior motive?

Compelled speech comes to Canada: Citizens using the 'wrong' gender pronoun could be accused of hate crimes
https://www.sott.net/article/353978-Comp...-of-hate-crimes

June 16, 2017

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Canada passed a law Thursday making it illegal to use the wrong gender pronouns. Critics say that Canadians who do not subscribe to progressive gender theory could be accused of hate crimes, jailed, fined, and made to take anti-bias training.

Canada's Senate passed Bill C-16, which puts "gender identity" and "gender expression" into both the country's Human Rights Code, as well as the hate crime category of its Criminal Code by a vote of 67-11, according to LifeSiteNews. The bill now only needs royal assent from the House of Commons to pass into law.

"Great news," announced Justin Trudeau, Canada's prime minister. "Bill C-16 has passed the Senate - making it illegal to discriminate based on gender identity or expression. #LoveisLove."



"Proud that Bill C-16has passed in the Senate," said Jody Wilson-Raybould, the country's attorney general and minister of justice. "All Canadians should feel #FreeToBeMe."



"[There's an argument] that transgender identity is too subjective a concept to be enshrined in law because it is defined as an individual's deeply felt internal experience of gender," said Grant Mitchell, a conservative senator, in November 2016. "Yet we, of course, accept outright that no one can discriminate on the basis of religion, and that too is clearly a very deeply subjective and personal feeling."

Jordan Peterson, a professor at the University of Toronto, and one of the bill's fiercest critics, spoke to the Senate before the vote, insisting that it infringed upon citizens' freedom of speech and institutes what he views as dubious gender ideology into law.

"Compelled speech has come to Canada," stated Peterson. "We will seriously regret this."

"[Ideologues are] using unsuspecting and sometimes complicit members of the so-called transgender community to push their ideological vanguard forward," said the professor to the Senate in May. "The very idea that calling someone a term that they didn't choose causes them such irreparable harm that legal remedies should be sought [is] an indication of just how deeply the culture of victimization has sunk into our society."

Peterson has previously pledged not to use irregular gender pronouns and students have protested him for his opposition to political correctness.

WATCH:

"This tyrannical bill is nothing but social engineering to the nth degree, all in the name of political correctness," Jeff Gunnarson, vice president of Campaign Life Toronto, a pro-life political group in Canada, told LifeSiteNews.

The Daily Caller News Foundation reached out to the director of communications for the House of Commons, but received no comment in time for publication.


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Oh, Canada... Read it and weep: excerpts from the Ontario Human Rights Commission recommendations on identifying discrimination, upon which Canada's new C-16 law is leveraged:

Discrimination is not always direct and is often hard to detect. The claimant must show on a "balance of probabilities" (more likely than not) that adverse or negative treatment happened. The analysis should be flexible and look at all relevant factors in the situation including circumstantial evidence as well as the full impact on the affected person or group. While there may be evidence of "intent," this is not needed to prove discrimination. Gender identity, gender expression or other protected characteristics need only be one of the factors in the negative treatment for discrimination to exist.

Once prima facie discrimination is established, the burden then shifts to the organization or person responsible to either provide a credible non-discriminatory explanation, or justify the conduct or practice using one of the defences available under the Code.
Many trans people are vulnerable to harassment because of their gender identity and gender expression. Trans people also experience harassment that is sexual in nature (sexual harassment) that may be because of their gender identity, gender expression and/or sex.

Gender-based harassment can involve:
-Derogatory language toward trans people or trans communities
-Insults, comments that ridicule, humiliate or demean people because of their gender identity or expression
-Behaviour that "polices and or reinforces traditional heterosexual gender norms"
-Refusing to refer to a person by their self-identified name and proper personal pronoun
-Comments or conduct relating to a perception that a person is not conforming with gender-role stereotypes
-Jokes related to a person's gender identity or expression including those circulated in writing or by email or social media
-Spreading rumours about a person's gender identity or expression including through the Internet
-"Outing" or threatening to "out" someone as trans
-Intrusive comments, questions or insults about a person's body, physical characteristics, gender-related medical procedures, clothing, mannerisms, or other forms of gender expression
-Other threats, unwelcome touching, violence and physical assault.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/20/17 12:57 AM

My comment : My previous post about the C-16 law that protect against discrimination against those with "other" sexual orientation. For sure I'm not for any type of disrespect behavior towards anyone. Plus the law of God states to love everyone(foreigners, law-breakers, etc...) as our own brother.

However, if expressing an opinion about the subject of sexual orientation gets viewed as discrimination and thus I need to pay a penalty for expressing a point of view...then that law is draconian in nature that takes away our freedom of speech in Canada.

This post is not about the C-16 law that Prof. Peterson talk against it in the previous post; but rather about his recent increased popularity as a "father figure" for men on YouTube. I only viewed this video below; so I really don't know much of what he believes. However, what he shared in that video gave me a very good impression that I perceived he's gifted from above.

From the article read, and the video below I can see clearly that he's a Christian that is not afraid to profess it and implements some Biblical values that he gathers to help others. I'm sure there would be things in his Biblical perspective that I would feel needs refinement; but that's the case for all of us. We all needs refinement in our views.

Despite the needed refinements; I think he might become a positive and influential Canadian figure worth keeping an eye on his work. I'm curious to see if God might use him to help us, Canadians and others, go thru these turmoils which I perceived will increase mainly because we are not freed from Mystery Babylon's control and bad politics. I do hope that Canada will be freed from Mystery Babylon's grip by the end of 2017. But we will see how God will work things out.

I'm not saying that I agree with all his views by which I'm unaware of them. As with all things, you take what the Holy Spirit impresses as His and leave the rest. But Canada and the world needs more people like Prof. Peterson that take upon himself the responsibility to help others to become overcomers over the "evils"(or calamities) that we find ourselves dealing with each day so we also can become a blessings to others.



Self-help guru Jordan B. Peterson teaches today’s men to find what they are missing

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448714/jordan-p-peterson-self-help-guru-father-figure

by CHRISTIAN CHENSVOLD


June 19th, 2017
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Like countless men, I recently discovered the online lectures of Jordan B. Peterson, a professor of psychology at the University of Toronto who rose to Internet fame and notoriety in November of 2016. The obscure professor had posted videos to his small YouTube channel voicing opposition to Canada’s Bill C-16, which prohibited discrimination on the basis of gender identity — a concept that can include “misgendering” people by refusing to refer to them by their preferred pronouns. Peterson denounced the postmodernist motivations of the law, whose totalitarian end game, he believed, was to criminalize free speech.

As things are wont to unfold on the Internet, Peterson’s videos and media coverage snowballed until he eventually caught the eye — and became a three-hour guest on — popular YouTube channels such as the Rubin Report and the Joe Rogan Experience. Peterson’s animated divertissements won instant fans through his particularly engaging mix of topics: free speech and political correctness, the history of totalitarianism, personality traits and psychological well-being, hero’s-journey mythology, and the stories of the Old Testament.

Wise nuggets from his interviews and lectures were uploaded at an accelerating pace, and Peterson amassed millions of views. His own channel leapt from obscurity to 300,000 subscribers and counting. Peterson next set up a Patreon account to raise money, vowing to fast-track the video uploading and promising a lengthy series of lectures on the Bible, and his newfound flock ponied up over $40,000 in monthly support, which Peterson says he wants to use to create an online university. Though his book Twelve Rules for Life: An Antidote for Chaos isn’t due out until September — September of 2018, that is — it is fast climbing the Amazon ranks from preorders. He’s tweeted out that he has all ten of the top ten higher-education podcasts on iTunes. Reddit communities, memes, and clever-slogan-stamped products are popping up every day.

Peterson says his online audience is 90 percent male. These huge numbers of men, many of whom are willing to donate $5 or $10 per month, have embraced a 54-year-old paternal authority figure who tells them that they’re a mess and need to get their lives in order. It works because Peterson connects his message to something eternal, offering mytho-intellectual fatherly advice that men, especially Millennial men, are starved for in an age of perpetual and trivial digital distraction.

To use one of his own refrains, he has ascended to the top of the dominance hierarchy when it comes to motivating males in the digital age.

Peterson has become an Internet hero partly by being a cartographer of the human soul. He talks at length about mapping your environment, ever weighing goals and results, risks and rewards, and what happens when unexplored territory — chaos, the flood, the serpent in the garden — suddenly appears and shatters your world.

One of his popular lecture series, taken directly from his UT classroom, is called “Maps of Meaning,” also the title of his 1999 book. Peterson presents men a roadmap for dealing with their past, the unresolved alarms that discordantly sound in our minds clamoring to be attended to, but that we are all too keen to tune out. If you have a memory that’s more than 18 months old but still causes negative emotions, says Peterson, then it’s something you have yet to resolve. The brain needs to mark “case closed” on negative experiences to understand what went wrong so as to avoid making the same mistake in the future. That’s pretty intuitive when you’re five and learning to ride a bike, but it gets a lot harder the older you get.

I’d always thought I was a pretty well-adjusted person, free from things like petty envy or road rage. Sure I had problems, but I always thought they were worries about the future, not demons from my past. Then I discovered Peterson on YouTube, and he helped me understand that I share in the human condition, which is to say, I’m a mess.

* * *

In this bleak midwinter, years into a midlife crisis, I received some bad news I didn’t take very well. I fell into my habit of aversion and avoidance, and in doing so built up a dragon in my mind that could torment me at will. After five days of subconscious alarms going off, unattended to, everyday life suddenly fell to pieces.

I became wracked with fear and sorrow, constantly weeping in a way I’d never experienced before. At one point — misguided by meditation teaching and wrapped up in knots about consciousness, thinking, and trying not to think about not thinking — I was ready to dial 911 for an ambulance to come sedate the torment away. But the idea of waking up in a New York mental institution with real loonies emboldened me to ride out the panic, which eventually subsided, as such episodes always do.

From that near crack-up things gradually improved as I clawed my way out of the dark place by tapping the instinct for self-preservation, and by seeking wisdom from a variety of books from different traditions — from Nietzsche’s thoughts on affirming life by viewing its sufferings as an aesthetic phenomenon, to James Allen’s classic 1903 self-help tome As a Man Thinketh, and to the surprisingly entertaining and enlightening 1948 book by Dale Carnegie called How to Stop Worrying and Start Living, which combined stories of everyday folks conquering their demons with wise words from the great minds of Western literature. Gradually my world inched back toward messy normalcy.

All this coincided with the rise of Jordan Peterson, whom I discovered as if by fate, and his words became a daily regimen. I joked to friends that I was “in therapy,” and that it was actually quite sophisticated in a ’70s Woody Allen kind of way. With “Dr. P’s” constant message of “sort yourself out,” each day the little epiphanies grew larger. There were times when Dr. P described my issues so precisely it made the hair stand up on the back of my neck. This made me realize that all human problems are pretty much the same, and that it’s Peterson’s archetypal, big-picture approach that is resonating with men at this particular moment in time.

Although the medium he uses is cutting-edge, giving his “therapy sessions” near-infinite reach, what Peterson teaches is not new but timeless: 4,000-year-old Biblical tales, mythologies of the past two millennia, and ideas from 19th- and 20th-century figures such as Nietzsche, Dostoyevsky, Solzhenitsyn, and Jung. Dr. P isn’t just a therapist for men at a time of masculine crisis; no, the man who draws so much on patriarchal archetypes is fast becoming YouTube’s new ideal male authority figure.

I joked to friends that I was “in therapy,” and that it was actually quite sophisticated in a ’70s Woody Allen kind of way. Firm but caring, Peterson is not a rigid drill sergeant out to eradicate your knee-jerk adolescent revolt. That’s a different kind of self-help guru for a different kind of man. Instead, Dr. P encourages, which, as he points out, means to instill with courage. In cognitive therapy, removing fear doesn’t work. You don’t make the bad stuff go away be retreating to a safe space, to use a popular buzzword; you do so by making yourself stronger. Peterson doesn’t tell you what you should do, because only you can figure out your purpose — but he can point out a few places to look. In short, Peterson speaks the way I always wished my father had.

But we can’t choose our parents, and accepting them for who they are is another part of “sorting yourself out.” My own dad, kind and supportive as he’s been to his adult son, would score in the 99th percentile for conscientiousness (work, discipline, order) in the “Big Five” personality test that Peterson often mentions, and in single digits for openness (variety, intellectual curiosity, aesthetic sensitivity, in touch with feelings) — hardly the ideal for a writer son in search of wisdom and truth.

Imagine if you did everything you know you should be doing but aren’t, Dr. P says, and imagine what your life would be like in ten years. Then imagine the opposite, a complete cave-in to the worst of your tendencies. But change is so difficult as to seem impossible, as Dr. P himself says — and right on cue I found a lecture in which he tells the story of Noah. What do you do when your Great Flood comes along and destroys your sense of external identity, when you lose your job or your spouse leaves you? Why, you be like Noah, who had God’s favor for his ability to adapt, to reinvent himself as shipbuilder and captain in order to survive, and in so transforming himself saved the world.

You don’t wall yourself inside a safe space of ideology, territory, or experience. Learning — and what is a life well lived but constant learning? — requires the constant tearing down and transformative rebuilding of the boundaries of your experience as you acquire new information.

* * *

Change starts with little things, which despite being little feel immovable from the density of their weight. For years I would rise, often from a restless night, and go directly to my desk, hoping for some good news on the computer to jump-start my day. I’d soon become distracted with all the trivialities of the news. Then, coffee ingested and ready to work, I’d find my back was a wreck from sitting too soon after rising, which I’d been told repeatedly by a chiropractor not to do.

With Dr. P’s voice in my head encouraging me to imagine what I could be if I stopped doing the things I know I shouldn’t be doing, and started doing the things I know I should, I wondered what to do first thing in the morning. I mean besides the obvious and necessary.

I settled on something embarrassingly banal, the kind of thing old folks do: I would take a walk around the block, and have my first impressions of the day come from outside rather than a computer screen.

This simple act of will kicked my brain’s positive emotions into overdrive. Doing something different makes you feel different, which makes you think different, and finally be different. The front stoops of my neighbors, which I had so often passed, averting my eyes to the red-brick eyesores, were suddenly radiant with the beauty of flowers. Birds and squirrels went about their business of daily survival, oblivious to human folly and existential dread. And then I beheld a tree I had never noticed before, covered with heart-shaped messages I assumed were there to commemorate the site of some tragic accident. But when I investigated, the messages turned out to be timeless quotes on happiness and friendship put there to inspire and uplift anyone willing to notice. And I never had. One of the Old Testament’s central messages, according to Peterson, is quite simple: pay attention.

The sheer numbers testify that he is the right man at the right time. Pay attention. Sort out your past. Author your future. Take responsibility for something. Identify not with that part of you that can be shattered, but the part that rebuilds itself from shatters. Face your fears one step at a time, and note with each voluntary approach how you didn’t perish, but instead were strengthened.

I slept soundly last night and awoke with the sun. As I strolled on Day Two of the new walk-around-the-block routine, my mind was fertile and alert. What could come of this glorious day? When I eventually sat down at my desk, I began writing this.

Countless men are grateful to Jordan Peterson for having the courage to speak his mind on a contentious social matter. This temporal issue brought him many enemies, but his timeless messages earned followers that vastly outnumber them. The sheer numbers testify that he is the right man at the right time, someone capable of showing young men that cleaning up their room has cosmic significance, and that imposing a little order upon chaos is good for the soul, which in turn is good for the world.

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/20/17 01:35 AM

My comment : Here's another positive article where Malaysia and Indonesia has joined forces with the Philippines to keep ISIS terrorist in check and away from their countries.

Duterte aggressive approach appears to be working very well.

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"We need to watch out for the 500 to 600 terrorists there, 257 of whom have been killed already. The rest, based on information we are getting, are blending in with refugees to get out," General Nurmantyo explained."

"What we want to avoid is a development of perceptions that there are certain areas in our region that are seen as Aleppo, Raqqa (in Syria), meaning these areas would become magnets, to which foreign fighters would be attracted to come," said Hussein, as quoted by the Straits Times.

“We want to convey a very clear message that if they want to set foot here, they don't only face one country, but at least three countries that have agreed to fight as hard as they can."


Indonesia, Malaysia & Philippines deploy navy, fighter jets to jointly combat terrorism

https://www.rt.com/news/393130-se-asia-joint-patrols-terrorism/
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Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines have launched joint operations in the Sulu Sea off the north coast of Borneo, amid fears that the Islamist insurgency in the southern Philippines might spread throughout the region.

The Indonesian military said the joint maneuvers, which began on Monday from Tarakan island in North Kalimantan, Indonesia, were “in the spirit and centrality of ASEAN [Association of Southeast Asian Nations], in maintaining stability in the region in the face of non-traditional threats such as piracy, kidnapping, terrorism and other transnational crimes in regional waters,” read a statement to the media as quoted by the Straits Times.

Ministers and top army officials from the three countries, as well as defense ministers from [censored] and Singapore, attended the ceremonies which kicked off the mainly naval-based operation, although land and air forces are taking part as well.

A new Maritime Command Centre (MCC) was also inaugurated at Tarakan, at a ceremony witnessed by officials from all three countries. Tarakan is a port city just south of Borneo and facing the conflict-wracked island of Mindanao in the southern Philippines.

Additional command centers are also being planned in Tawau in Malaysia, on Borneo, and in Bongao in the Philippines.

"We see these functioning as a triangle, like a spider's web, where everything inside the triangle will be monitored," Indonesian military chief General Gatot Nurmantyo said as cited by Reuters.

There has been renewed concern over Islamist activity in south-east Asia, particularly after extremists overran the city of Marawi on Mindanao island, Philippines nearly a month ago.

The attack on Marawi was carried out by the IS-affiliated Maute group, which together with other extremist groups like Abu Sayyaf have been carrying out terrorist attacks in the region, as well as other crimes such as hostage-taking, extortion and piracy.

As the Philippine military lay siege to Marawi, jihadist fighters, both foreign and local, may try to flee the battlefield to Indonesia, which has intensified security in the sea between their country and the Philippines.

"We need to watch out for the 500 to 600 terrorists there, 257 of whom have been killed already. The rest, based on information we are getting, are blending in with refugees to get out," General Nurmantyo explained.

Jakarta has deployed three Sukhoi fighter jets to prevent the militants from infiltrating Indonesia by sea, the head of the Tarakan air base told the state-run Antara news agency.

Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines also pledged to increase intelligence-sharing to prevent another Marawi-type incident happening again, said Malaysian defense minister Hishammuddin Hussein.

"What we want to avoid is a development of perceptions that there are certain areas in our region that are seen as Aleppo, Raqqa (in Syria), meaning these areas would become magnets, to which foreign fighters would be attracted to come," said Hussein, as quoted by the Straits Times.

“We want to convey a very clear message that if they want to set foot here, they don't only face one country, but at least three countries that have agreed to fight as hard as they can."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/20/17 02:18 AM

My comment : This article does show many positive development in regards in combating against the Elites multiple sick perverse usage of our children. This doesn't come with some casualties as "On June 13, the suspected shooter, James Hodgkinson, shot Rep. Steve Scalise and three others as they practiced baseball in Alexandria, Virginia." James Hodgkinson publically said he hates Trump. Him shooting Rep. Steve Scalise is linked to stop Scalise working on combating sex trafficking.



The good news is Scalise didn't die from this shot and hopefully this incident will bring more awareness to the general public.

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"On May 25, Scalise posted a video on his YouTube channel and on his Twitter feed discussing recently passed bills in the House to target child predators and to provide protection for human trafficking victims. “The sad truth is that human trafficking is a real problem plaguing each and every community in the United States,” Scalise said. “This week the House took strong action to stand up for the victims of human trafficking, passing tough bills to provide them protection and to target child predators.”

"Wenstrup outlined twelve bills the House of Representatives recently passed during Combating Trafficking and Child Protection Week in Congress to fight child abuse and exploitation. “The bills also ensure investigators have more efficient access to critical evidence necessary to stop child predators, strengthen tools for the prosecution of perpetrators, increase the requirements for lifelong registration and reporting for offenders, and better equip law enforcement to protect children from harm,” Wenstrup wrote."

"Attorney General Jeff Sessions prepped 1500 members of law enforcement officers for the fight against sex trafficking during a motivational speech on June 6 at the National Law Enforcement Training on Child Exploitation in Atlanta. Sessions issued a stern warning to pedophiles exploiting children: “Standing together, we will send a message to the predators and pimps, the child abusers and the sextortionists and the traffickers: You will not harm our kids. And we will never rest until we find you and bring you to justice for your appalling acts.” Sessions emphasized that he plans to make the fight to end human trafficking a “top priority”.


The Virginia Shooting is Tied to Sex Trafficking

By Liz Crokin

June 17, 2017
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Two Republican members of Congress targeted in the Virginia shooting during an early-morning practice for a charity baseball game have recently pushed for legislation to combat sex trafficking.

On June 13, the suspected shooter, James Hodgkinson, shot Rep. Steve Scalise and three others as they practiced baseball in Alexandria, Virginia. Rep. Brad Wenstrup, a veteran combat surgeon, rushed to Scalise’s side to administer emergency medical attention after the bullet struck Scalise in the hip. Both Scalise and Wenstrup have been very vocal about their efforts to end human trafficking through legislation.

On May 25, Scalise posted a video on his YouTube channel and on his Twitter feed discussing recently passed bills in the House to target child predators and to provide protection for human trafficking victims. “The sad truth is that human trafficking is a real problem plaguing each and every community in the United States,” Scalise said. “This week the House took strong action to stand up for the victims of human trafficking, passing tough bills to provide them protection and to target child predators.”

Scalise went on to encourage his colleagues to work together to get the legislation signed into law. “Let’s work together to get these bills signed into law,” Scalise said.

On June 6, Wenstrup published an op-ed on the topic titled Human Trafficking: As Easy as Ordering a Pizza. “It is true – with the rise of the Internet, human trafficking has become one of the fastest growing businesses of organized crime in the world,” Wenstrup wrote. Wenstrup cited that human trafficking generates billions annually in illegal profits around the globe and as many as 17,500 people may be trafficked into the United States every year while approximately100,000 American citizens may be victims of trafficking within the United Sates, according to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the Congressional Research Service.

Wenstrup applauded President Trump’s efforts to end human trafficking. “Just this past month, the White House hosted a bipartisan roundtable with lawmakers, anti-trafficking experts and human trafficking victims to develop strategies and objectives to strengthen the federal government’s fight against child trafficking and exploitation,” Wenstrup stated in the piece.

Wenstrup outlined twelve bills the House of Representatives recently passed during Combating Trafficking and Child Protection Week in Congress to fight child abuse and exploitation. “The bills also ensure investigators have more efficient access to critical evidence necessary to stop child predators, strengthen tools for the prosecution of perpetrators, increase the requirements for lifelong registration and reporting for offenders, and better equip law enforcement to protect children from harm,” Wenstrup wrote.



Scalise has remained in critical condition after suffering damage to internal organs, and his injuries will require additional operations, according to a MedStar Washington Hospital Center medical update late Wednesday.



Last week The Hagmann Report posted a story on how Trump’s zeroing in on elite pedophiles in his efforts to end human trafficking. “Now that it’s clear Trump’s not and never has been under investigation – his administration is moving full steam ahead with their fight to stop human trafficking and they’re moving in on the head of the snake,” a source told The Hagmann Report. “They’re shifting their focus to the elite pedophiles at the top which is why we’ve recently seen the arrests of politicians, law enforcement officers, professors and other more prominent members of society.”



Attorney General Jeff Sessions prepped 1500 members of law enforcement officers for the fight against sex trafficking during a motivational speech on June 6 at the National Law Enforcement Training on Child Exploitation in Atlanta. Sessions issued a stern warning to pedophiles exploiting children: “Standing together, we will send a message to the predators and pimps, the child abusers and the sextortionists and the traffickers: You will not harm our kids. And we will never rest until we find you and bring you to justice for your appalling acts.” Sessions emphasized that he plans to make the fight to end human trafficking a “top priority”.

Trump first announced his pledge to combat human trafficking during a listening session at the White House on Feb. 23. “I’ll direct the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security and other federal agencies that have a role in preventing human trafficking to take a hard look at the resources and personnel that they’re currently devoting to this fight,” Trump said. “Now, they are devoting a lot, but we’re going to be devoting more.”

Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/20/17 09:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle

There's nothing wrong for someone to express their discernment, and views whether they are Christian or not. I often personally do learn from their perspective. And what I think is something of worth to note...you may think it is something to ignore. That's ok and a normal phenomena. However, if you are someone that doesn't keep up with this type of news and are only looking for anything to throw some wrenches...then do what you must. But that day is soon coming when Mystery Babylon will be expose and the truth put on the table. I'm looking forward to it.
I agree, nothing wrong with expressing "discernment" or "views" and I would simply add, nothing wrong with questioning them either. I advocate questioning these sources you are quoting from, not ignoring them.
Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/20/17 09:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle

I will admit that my discernment is not always point on....that's typical for anyone and we are all learning to better hear the Lord's voice and come to understand better what the Lord is doing with all these events.

if you, the wanderer, are a believer of MSM news and thinks their news reflect more the truth of the matter; then I understand why you do not agree with me posting news from RT, Spunik, PressTV, and other independent news sources.
I do not "hear the Lord's Voice" in any such alleged news sources. I see a degree of activism and propaganda in almost every bit of news available online. Of course, there are some truths being posted, but to not question any or all of them is even more wrong than anything you have called me thus far.
Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/20/17 09:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : Canada is fast moving towards fascism as we have seen by removing our freedom of speech with the 'Blasphemy' Bill To Silence Critics Of Islam (see Post#182914). Now Canada is passing the C-16 law that protects those with alternative sexual orientation???

Really, it's all about removing our freedom of speech in this country. I would recommend that you would watch the video of professor Peterson from University of Toronto who makes this points. The Youtube video link is inside that article below. It is interesting to watch how the students of the opposing view handle free Speech expressed by Peterson. I'm seeing first hand that our Children is being well trained in the art of fascism on unfounded grounds of victimization.

3 months ago I have posted this Nigel Farage video that was censored by you-tube. I just found another link. What Nigel expressed I have seen this in my own children who were homeschool for their first 9 years and only ended up in the Public schools in their last 3 years. I have noticed in my own children what Nigel expressed in this video.

UKIP Nigel Farage - The Young Generation That Shout 'Fascist' Are Fascist Themselves


Do your children know that you have posted this about them online? I can hardly believe what I am reading here.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/21/17 04:49 PM

Originally Posted By: The Wanderer
Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : Canada is fast moving towards fascism as we have seen by removing our freedom of speech with the 'Blasphemy' Bill To Silence Critics Of Islam (see Post#182914). Now Canada is passing the C-16 law that protects those with alternative sexual orientation???

Really, it's all about removing our freedom of speech in this country. I would recommend that you would watch the video of professor Peterson from University of Toronto who makes this points. The Youtube video link is inside that article below. It is interesting to watch how the students of the opposing view handle free Speech expressed by Peterson. I'm seeing first hand that our Children is being well trained in the art of fascism on unfounded grounds of victimization.

3 months ago I have posted this Nigel Farage video that was censored by you-tube. I just found another link. What Nigel expressed I have seen this in my own children who were homeschool for their first 9 years and only ended up in the Public schools in their last 3 years. I have noticed in my own children what Nigel expressed in this video.

UKIP Nigel Farage - The Young Generation That Shout 'Fascist' Are Fascist Themselves


Do your children know that you have posted this about them online? I can hardly believe what I am reading here.

For sure, I didn't elaborate much in that statement so I see that it needs clarification. We all have (or had) fascist compliance traits that was put in us via our upbringing in society. Especially in the Western civilizations that we live in today.

This coming bolded statement is my view from my health science education and background and from reflecting a lot on many scriptures on the simple question of what "moves" man and changes him. I see that our Lord has created man sensitive & influential to our environment.

I believe this is the perfect design in a world that have God's righteous laws establish in our land with leaders that are Christ-like in heart and rules(==shepherd) like Him. However this design goes against us when our leaders are usurpers & tyrants seeking to establish totalitarianism or a fascism empire where a few can rule the mass. This is where we find ourselves faced with the NEW WORLD ORDER (a fascist system) that Mystery Babylon was patiently working into implementing their plan one step at a time since a few centuries. 2018 is probably the year to bring there New World Order about as I have seen this year marked on their phoenix coming out of ashes images floating around for the past 5 years or so. However, I believe Mystery Babylon won't succeed and will fall... as we have been witnessing their fall in great stride the past 3 years.

The elites of today view us as a bunch of cattle (goyim) that needs them to lead us. The elites sincerely believe that without them the people are doomed and lost. So in their deranged view they sincerely think this is their calling and their right to rule us.

In the Bible, we find that the people are said to be like sheep in the hands of the religious leaders. The Lord has rebuked the leaders in many places for abusing the people that was put under their care. Jesus is portrayed as a shepherd that cares for His sheep. And in this image...we are the sheep that is easily led.

So I saw this in myself, in others, and in history, that the people are very easily manipulated and can be easily deceived also.

Mystery Babylon has been grooming not only our children via the public educational system to be good citizens of their upcoming fascism regime; but also the adults are groomed also via Mainstream Media, the entertainment, politics, laws, and etc... We have all been brainwashed to some levels by Mystery Babylon. I think it's inevitable and is a fact. Even from inside our own denomination (that is infiltrated by Mystery Babylon) we are also trained to think a certain way.

No one likes to think of themselves being easily manipulated or to admit that we are brainwashed to be groomed in a certain way. Of course if we were groomed to do good, then it wouldn't be so bad. But when we are molded to participate on the "dark side"; then it's harder to admit and swallow. Regardless, it's both an ego issue. We need to go beyond viewing things around our ego and view things in God's perspective and within His perfect plan that is unfolding.

One day, on the Lord's timing and in His way, we will all come to face that fact and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit will help us to move beyond the shame and grow in glory in Christ.

AV Hab 2:16 "Thou art filled with shame for glory: drink thou also, and let thy foreskin be uncovered: the cup of the LORD'S right hand shall be turned unto thee, and shameful spewing [shall be] on thy glory."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/25/17 01:22 AM

My comment : I've noticed about 8 months or so ago (since the Podesta-Clinton email investigation) that Mainstream Media(MSM) and other agencies has been watering down Pedophilia. Recently BBC's position has angered many in social media.

Read the article at the source link to get all the links so you can access to more history and more details about this brainwashing preparing the population how to view this nation-wide predatory ring circle problem towards our children.

BBC pedophile exposé ignores real victims, triggers social-media firestorm

https://www.sott.net/article/354258-BBC-...media-firestorm

Jun 20, 2017

----------- some extracted quotes -----------------

"attempting to label pedophilia as a 'sexual orientation' crossed the red line for many readers"

"In a recent BBC article entitled, 'Paedophiles need help, not condemnation - I should know,' we are 'introduced' to an anonymous 60-something male who opens this teary-eyed treatise by proclaiming,
"It's a long time since I've described myself as a paedophile.

"Paedophilia is a disorder, a deeply distressing sexual orientation. For me, it's triggered by traumatic experiences in childhood."

"Did you catch it? If you blinked you missed it. Like one of those clunky bills rammed through Congress on Christmas Eve that is 'sweetened' with all sorts of hidden 'riders,' the opening line of the article declares that pedophilia now ranks - alongside hetereosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality - as a "sexual orientation." A "distressing" one for the pedophile, no doubt, but a sexual orientation nevertheless. But that is simply wrong.

...

"In other words, the victim is the poor, misunderstood pedophile who, we are told, desperately wants to change.

"The irony of the BBC promoting this puff piece on pedophiles is a bit rich considering its former relationship with Jimmy Savile, the long-term host of a popular BBC music program, who has been described, postmortem, as a "predatory sexual offender," possibly Britain's worst of all time. "

"Once again, that 'defective product' is the article's repeated claim that pedophilia is a "sexual orientation," a glaring misconception that places it on the road to social acceptance.

In fact, the expression "orientation" is used not once in the article, but on four separate occasions, making me suspect the entire purpose of this piece is to break ground for an entirely new social-engineering revolution in sexual mores, which will be, naturally, actively promoted by every (Western) media outlet on Planet Perversity. "

"if this BBC piece is any indication, then there are definite plans in the works to 'normalize' pedophilia in some not-so-distant dystopic future. In fact, pedophilia movements on both sides of the Atlantic have been attempting to go mainstream for many years now (For those who argue that such a social transformation could never succeed, ask yourself how many people just 10 years ago could have guessed there would be 'After School Satan' clubs popping up around God's Country today?). "

""The conventional view of paedophilia is that it's an incurable condition. But this doctor laughed - he laughed! And he said, "Of course it's curable."

"It was an absolutely huge relief. The doctor didn't challenge my identification with paedophilia, he just accepted it and said: "No problem, we'll sort it."

"Today, we see the terms "orientation" and "identification" being casually kicked around in an article on pedophilia, as a way to tenderize the mind of the masses, as it were, for what seems to be coming down the road.


Quote:
Although it is difficult to dispute the story's central message that individuals who have a sexual attraction to children 'need help,' attempting to label pedophilia as a 'sexual orientation' crossed the red line for many readers.

In a recent BBC article entitled, 'Paedophiles need help, not condemnation - I should know,' we are 'introduced' to an anonymous 60-something male who opens this teary-eyed treatise by proclaiming,
"It's a long time since I've described myself as a paedophile. Paedophilia is a disorder, a deeply distressing sexual orientation. For me, it's triggered by traumatic experiences in childhood."
Did you catch it? If you blinked you missed it. Like one of those clunky bills rammed through Congress on Christmas Eve that is 'sweetened' with all sorts of hidden 'riders,' the opening line of the article declares that pedophilia now ranks - alongside hetereosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality - as a "sexual orientation." A "distressing" one for the pedophile, no doubt, but a sexual orientation nevertheless. But that is simply wrong.


Unlike homosexuality, pedophilia is ranked by the World Health Organization among its "disorders of sexual preference."It's not a "sexual orientation" by any stretch of the imagination; it's a psychological problem.

For those who were triggered by the article's barbeque-scented bait, as many social media users obviously were, caveat lector, reader beware.

The article is rigged like a trap to ensnare the dreaded 'haters' out there who would fail to sympathize with the plight of an individual who once fantasized about sexual relations with minors as opposed to his overgrown, mature peers.



Here is where the rusty trap is hidden amongst the weeds for the unsuspecting reader. The author, who comes across as an intelligent, albeit misguided fellow, informs us he "never even contemplated abusing a child," which sounds about as plausible as a recovering alcoholic saying he has never pressed his lips against a whiskey glass. In any case, we are forced to take Mr. Anonymous 60-something for his word.

So now the stage is set for a radical role reversal, where the real victim of pedophilia - the vulnerable child - is no longer the central character of the drama. Instead, we are asked to feel pity for the mental suffering that accompanies those grown adults who, thanks to a soundly functioning legal system, are prevented from engaging in sexual relations with minors. In other words, the victim is the poor, misunderstood pedophile who, we are told, desperately wants to change. And to be honest, I found myself sympathizing with the author, although he tossed around facts and figures with wanton abandon.

"People think paedophilia is synonymous with child sexual abuse. But I would never have abused a child," he writes."Most paedophiles have two warring drives within them: the urge to offend, and the urge to be normal. Most paedophiles are desperate for those desires to go away."
Somehow I doubt the author - who confesses he was "sexually interfered with" by his mother at the age of 15, knows what "most pedophiles" really want, since so many people - not least of all pedophiles - barely understand what is going on inside of their own heads.

Pedophile PC?

The irony of the BBC promoting this puff piece on pedophiles is a bit rich considering its former relationship with Jimmy Savile, the long-term host of a popular BBC music program, who has been described, postmortem, as a "predatory sexual offender," possibly Britain's worst of all time.

Savile, who died at the ripe old age of 84, was reported to have sexually abused hundreds of girls and boys over the duration of his career. The full extent of Savile's sex crimes makes it difficult to believe he was not protected by some very influential people.

In any event, my cynicism has more to do with the content of this particular pedophilia piece. First, it must be admitted that the unknown narrator has done some admirable things: 1. He has admitted he has a problem, which is the most difficult part; 2. He has actively sought out therapy; and 3. He claims he has never laid his hands on a child.



A stunning performance chart, to be sure, but it is exactly these charming 'qualifications' (which I suspect are not typical for pedophiles) that allows our ghost narrator, like a respectable-sounding snake-oil salesman, to peddle a defective product in the public square. Once again, that 'defective product' is the article's repeated claim that pedophilia is a "sexual orientation," a glaring misconception that places it on the road to social acceptance.

In fact, the expression "orientation" is used not once in the article, but on four separate occasions, making me suspect the entire purpose of this piece is to break ground for an entirely new social-engineering revolution in sexual mores, which will be, naturally, actively promoted by every (Western) media outlet on Planet Perversity.

It won't happen tomorrow, of course, and probably not even the day after, but if this BBC piece is any indication, then there are definite plans in the works to 'normalize' pedophilia in some not-so-distant dystopic future. In fact, pedophilia movements on both sides of the Atlantic have been attempting to go mainstream for many years now (For those who argue that such a social transformation could never succeed, ask yourself how many people just 10 years ago could have guessed there would be 'After School Satan' clubs popping up around God's Country today?).

However, even more telling than the author describing pedophilia in terms of "sexual orientation" was the reference to the Liberal left's favorite term - "identification" - which really said it all for me.



Here is the author describing his trip to the "University GP" where he sought out treatment.
"The conventional view of paedophilia is that it's an incurable condition. But this doctor laughed - he laughed! And he said, "Of course it's curable."

"It was an absolutely huge relief. The doctor didn't challenge my identification with paedophilia, he just accepted it and said: "No problem, we'll sort it."

Let that comment sink in for a moment: "The doctor didn't challenge my identification with paedophilia, he just accepted it and said: "No problem, we'll sort it."

Remember the last time we heard "identification" mentioned with relation to sexual matters? It was in May 2015, and the Obama administration had just passed legislation directing schools across the nation
"to allow transgender students to use bathrooms, locker rooms and other facilities that match their gender identity rather than their sex assigned at birth.

In other words, any male (or female) could wake up one morning and (Eureka!) "self-identify" with the opposite sex, and that same afternoon they would be legally permitted to change their clothes in the ladies (or men's) locker room. Just like that! Who cares what my assigned-at-birth XX-XY chromosomes might say. Biology will not dictate to me my sexual identity! I identify, therefore I am!

Do you see where this whole 'identification-orientation' business is leading us?

Although one of Donald Trump's first sweeps of his executive pen was to eradicate this absolute insanity, the ball was already put in motion and now there may be no stopping it.

Today, we see the terms "orientation" and "identification" being casually kicked around in an article on pedophilia, as a way to tenderize the mind of the masses, as it were, for what seems to be coming down the road.

Be forewarned, the 'social justice warriors' will not rest until every single cultural and social norm has been turned on its head. Every sacred institution will be challenged on the basis of an individual or group's perceived right to "identify and orientate" himself, herself or themselves to the lifestyle of their choice - deranged, degenerate or otherwise - even if it means breaking society's darkest taboos.

Those courageous enough to serve as the voice of reason in this age of ignorance will be chastised as intolerant 'haters' that don't respect the lifestyle choices of the 'victims,' who will no longer be the minors and children, but those who would abuse them.

Judging by the torrent of condemnation hurled at this lamentable BBC piece, at least we know many people still have their wits and scruples about them. There is hope.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/25/17 09:47 AM

My comment : Very encouraging news article of nearly 240 child predators "that among those arrested were entertainers, community leaders, white-collar professionals and clergy members. "

Operation Broken Heart III: Nearly 240 child predators arrested during police raid

https://www.sott.net/article/354525-Oper...ing-police-raid

June 23rd, 2017
Quote:
As bogus news pushing the divisive two-party paradigm about which puppet politician said something stupid this week fills the airwaves, very real news is taking place and conveniently getting glossed over. This very real news involves very real victims — who happen to be innocent children.

This week, a massive operation came to a head that was carried out across Southern California which swept up 238 child predators and traffickers — including clergymen attempting to buy a 6-year-old boy.

Conducted by the Los Angeles Regional Internet Crimes against Children task force, "Operation Broken Heart III" targeted offenders wanted for the sexual exploitation of children, child prostitution, sex tourism and possessing and distributing child pornography, said Deputy Chief Matt Blake of the Los Angeles Police Department, as reported by the LA Times.

The mass arrests were not made up of recluse pedophiles living in their mother's basements either. In fact, many of the arrests involved high-profile figures throughout the community.

John Reynolds, acting special agent in charge for U.S. Department of Homeland Security Investigations said that among those arrested were entertainers, community leaders, white-collar professionals and clergy members.

"The incidence of child sexual exploitation has reached staggering proportions," he said at a news conference.

These are not your typical internet dwellers looking to prey on children online with images and pornography. These people are willing to cross the globe to purchase children for sex. What this exposes is the very real, elite, and extremely horrific market for children.

In May, Michael Quinn, 33, traveled from Australia to Los Angeles to complete a deal to buy a 6-year-old boy for sex, according to the U.S. attorney's office in Los Angeles.

As the Times reports, undercover agents met Quinn on a social media networking site, where he had communicated that he wanted to "meet up with a dad who shares his young one," according to prosecutors.

"Quinn explained to the undercover agent he was hoping to meet 'other pervs' in the U.S. and ultimately agreed to pay a human trafficker $250 to provide him with a young boy with whom he could engage in illicit sex," according to the U.S. attorney's office in Los Angeles.

Since its inception in 2014, Operation Broken Heart has increased resources to law enforcement agencies and task forces which have resulted in thousands of arrests. It is one of 61 programs nationwide funded through the U.S. Justice Department's Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention.

Sadly, the funding for the prevention of child sex trafficking is but a drop in the bucket to the $51 billion spent annually fighting a futile and immoral drug war.

Perhaps, if the US cared more about saving children from exploitation and trafficking, and less about kidnapping, caging, and killing people over arbitrary substances they choose to put into their own bodies, this epidemic level of pedophilia could be curbed.

However, as the Free Thought Project has reported numerous times, many of these sickos hold positions of power within high levels of the government. They have an incentive to protect their operation and can do so using the many corrupt pedophiles within law enforcement as their minions.

In case after case, the Free Thought Project reports on horrifying instances of child sex rings that were allowed to go on for decades because politicians — including heads of states — policemen, clergy, and others were all in on the sick game.

In fact, as the new Netflix series, The Keepers set out to launch an investigation into a murder cold case it soon became much deeper because of the high-level pedophilia it revealed. The story exposed a concerted effort to conceal widespread rape and sexual abuse committed by Keough school chaplain and counselor Father Joseph Maskell, as well as other clergy, police, and a local gynecologist.

On multiple occasions, the Free Thought Project has reported interviews of former child sex trafficking victims who've all noted that they had nowhere to go as police and high-level politicians all took place in the abuse.

Hopefully, as the government's war on drugs continues to crumble, people will wake up to the fact that rescuing a child from a rapist is far more important than catching some dude smoking a plant. Hopefully.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/26/17 05:17 PM

"Sexual orientation"

I'm not robbing a bank. I'm only experiencing an alternative means of procurement. It is who I am. It is my income orientation. It my identification. I identify with money. It's an income disorder, you can't lock me up for having a health condition.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/26/17 07:08 PM

Originally Posted By: The Wanderer
Do your children know that you have posted this about them online? I can hardly believe what I am reading here.


I cannot believe what I am reading here either....

The news is full of what is happening on campuses around the US and Canada. Antifa is beating people up. College professors who do not agree with every little thing are being driven off campuses, there are riots over nothing more than a speaker coming onto campus that the students do not agree with, students are saying f-bomb free speech. This does not happen in a vacuum. They have been indoctrinated into this over the years in the school systems. I say indoctrinated and mean it because these kids are so upset over someone saying something they disagree with they must have a "safe space" to get away from hearing anything they don't like. That is a hallmark of indoctrination, not education.

Education causes a person to stand up and defend their beliefs and discuss the issues. Indoctrination causes them to lose their ever loving minds when being confronted with issues they do not agree with. It reminds me of what happened at the end of WWII. German kids 11 and 12 years old were running around killing US soldiers when there was no longer a need to kill, and all because they were so fanatically attached to the Nazi's. They had been indoctrinated, not educated. The National Socialist Party had taken over the educational system in Germany for a reason. The socialists in the west have taken over the educational systems for a reason.
Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 06/26/17 11:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Gary K
They had been indoctrinated, not educated. The National Socialist Party had taken over the educational system in Germany for a reason. The socialists in the west have taken over the educational systems for a reason.
This kind of thing does happen in various countries. It is hard to watch when it involves members of our own family. Its a little bit challenging trying to decide which news reports to believe; but as you stated somewhere else, recently, its a good idea to check a wide variety of sites and sources. Some alleged "news" is simply indoctrination and has the intention of masking whats really going on...global economic structure and restructuring goes past the money issue. Certain sources of said news already have so much money that they actually cannot spend it all. There's nothing for them to buy that would cost all the money they have. So why do they keep wanting more, and more? It has to be about something that is not money. It has to do with power, and control. I believe that any "restructure" is aimed at this target. And that certainly fits into Bible prophecy:

Quote:
"And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?" (Rev 13:4)
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/05/17 01:29 AM

My comment : Looks like the Kings of the East (Rev 16:12) that God raised to overthrow Mystery(Secret) Babylon, is taking their leadership roles to put a stop to this US THAAD non-sense that posed a direct threat to North Korea and China. Just recently South Korea got a new president that is standing against the THAAD and US influence in S.Korea. Also recently in the news we've seen the people of S.Korea protesting against the THAAD.

Looks like North Korea will get what they were asking from the first place. Real great news!

Russia, China: N. Korea must freeze nuclear activities, US halt THAAD deployment
https://www.rt.com/news/395244-north-korea-nuclear-us-drills-stop/

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Moscow and Beijing have agreed that North Korea should freeze its nuclear and missile programs, while the US and South Korea should abstain from holding war games in the region, Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

“We’ve agreed to promote our joint initiative, based on Russian step-by-step Korean settlement plan and Chinese ideas to simultaneously freeze North Korean nuclear and missile activities, and US and South Korean joint military drills,” Putin said at a press conference after meeting with China’s leader, Xi Jinping, in Moscow.

“We believe that the outer world is turbulent, local conflicts are emerging constantly, such issues as the Korean peninsula problem, Syrian question, remain very complex,” Xi Jinping said.

Russia’s president stressed that the two countries have either the same, or very close positions on many international issues.

“We intend to further develop our foreign policy coordination,” Putin said.

Moscow and Beijing stressed the importance of taking North Korea’s concerns over its safety into consideration, calling them “justified.”

“The two sides stress that justified North Korean concerns should be respected,” a joint statement by Russia’s and China’s foreign ministers reads. “Other countries should make certain moves to resume the negotiations, creating a peaceful disposition and mutual trust.”

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“A possibility of the use of military measures to solve the problems of the Korean Peninsula must be ruled out,” the joint statement stressed.

While condemning Pyongyang’s nuclear and missile tests as violating UN Security Council resolutions, Moscow and Beijing urged the United States to immediately halt its deployment of THAAD anti-missile systems to South Korea.

“The sides agree that the deployment of THAAD anti-missile systems to Northeast Asia gravely damages strategic safety interests of regional powers, including Russia and China and do not contribute to the de-nuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, as well as towards establishing peace and stability in the region,” the statement reads.

“Russia and China oppose the deployment of the said systems and call on the countries involved to immediately halt and cancel the process of their deployment.”

Russia and China’s calls for de-escalation and negotiation are clearly a step into right direction if the ongoing Korean crisis is to be untangled, Asia-Pacific defense consultant Jack Midgley believes.

“North Korea now has at least a limited ballistic missile capability; they have at least a limited nuclear weapons capability. The question is: how will the world deal with the emergence of this new set of facts,” Midgley said, adding “the experience of the last 60 years is very consistent there – it’s that the only way forward that actually works is to bring the parties together and to negotiate.”
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/14/17 08:29 PM

Elle,

I am reading a book right now that I think you would find fascinating. It is titled "The Creature of Jekyll Island". It is about the origins and its actual functions versus it's stated functions, of the Federal Reserve in the US. It also gets into the IMF and the World Bank.

I thought I knew quite a bit about this, but the author goes into incredible detail on how all of this works, and he has documented his facts in great detail. I am learning a lot about this, and there are aspects of it that I hadn't even come close to even guessing at.

The IMF, Word Bank, and Federal Reserve all have very specific common political goals. This book is a must read if you really want to understand why, and how, many political and economic things happen/have_happened in this world. It reveals much of the back story of what goes on behind the curtain of the financial world.

Reading this book actually helped me understand the fanatical hatred of Trump in the media and political left. Many of the things he is doing go against the well-laid plans of the political and economic elite, so the powers-that-be consider him a dangerous rogue. I, for one, wonder how long he is going to be allowed to live.

I knew a bunch of this in general terms, but this book has added a lot of specific knowledge to fill in places where I understood things generally, but didn't have as many specifics as I do know.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/20/17 08:28 PM

I'm sure that book is a very good read GaryK. I've had seem many refer to it. I'm glad also to read that you see that Trump is not a "Deep State" (aka Mystery(secret) Babylon) puppet. I agree with you there.

I do believe that 2017 is the year that Mystery Babylon will loose all their control over the world (or has fallen, fallen). It doesn't mean everything will be rosy after the fall of Secret Babylon for the economy will be in a massive state of a mess. The nations will find themselves with a huge problem in a deep need of a real solution.

We all know that only God's laws & ways has the solution for the nations. As it is prophecied in Isaiah 2:3 the nations will flow to the mountain(==Kingdom) of God to find their solution by learning God's laws.

Thus since Mystery Babylon will be shortly history; I think Trump will not be killed or impeached; but rather God will use him to make America great again.

Here's a cool recent article about the prayers supporting Trump presidency.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...val-Office.html
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/20/17 09:24 PM

My comment : I hardly can post anymore as I'm very ill. There were so many articles that I wanted to blog here as the events takes place so to keep track. So I will only provide some links and cut off my commenting and quoting articles. Sorry for that.

Qatar : Major game changer in terms of changing side and now is with China, Russia, Iran, & Turkey.

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/podcast/8424/jackass-red-glare
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1499284800.php
http://www.atimes.com/article/new-silk-road-will-go-syria/

ISIS : being removed from countries and no-longer supported by the USA and allies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...m=.a6480ce5fb88

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2017/07/10...perations-Mosul

ISIS supporter McCain with brain tumor :
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07...-type/23039053/

Originally Posted By: Stephen Jones
"He will probably not live long enough for justice to catch up with him. But since he has been leading the war efforts in support of ISIS, even posing in pictures with “rebels” who were said to be ISIS leaders, it seems more than coincidental that his diagnosis comes at the same time that Trump announces an end to US support of ISIS.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/12/world...p;smid=tw-share

As the NY Times article above shows, it was also discovered that one ISIS member had actually named himself after McCain.

Of course, no one in government wants to admit that the US government was in bed with ISIS or that a US senator was friends with ISIS leader, al-Baghdadi—or any ISIS member, for that matter. But the fact remains that ISIS has been fighting with US weaponry provided at least indirectly by the US government which has pretended to support “moderate” rebels. Labels are seldom accurate, but they do make it “legal” for the government to do otherwise illegal things."


Two Confessions from the dark side : 1) CIA confession at death bed about his (the Deep State orders) involvement of the control demolition of building 7 on 911. 911 is an inside job : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmx-DiWUqfs

2) The Mafia is run by the Vatican : http://www.theeventchronicle.com/cabal-e...a-recommended/#

Pedogate : More arrests at high profile.

https://www.sott.net/article/354525-Oper...ing-police-raid
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/21/17 03:35 PM

Elle,

I'm sorry you're sick. Hope you get better soon. I haven't been sick, but it's been really hot where I live and the heat just sucks the energy out of me. It always has, but since my health has gotten to be really poor it's a lot worse.

As to your link about the Vatican, have you read In God's Name by David Yallop? His documentation of the massive financial fraud involving the Vatican Bank and cardinals high in the Vatican, Vatican links to organized crime, and the death of John Paul I is a very good read. I read the original edition of the book, but I see another edition with further research has been released.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/24/17 04:49 PM

My comment : I've been reading Fulford's geopolitical weekly report for about 6 years now. Thru the years, he got my respect and value his journalist work with his unique sources to report things of the Elites secretive doing that most journalist cannot.

Benjamin Fulford -- Former Mainstream Media Journalist Blows Whistle on 9/11 & Fukushima

Recent interview of Mr. Fulford : http://themindunleashed.com/2017/07/form...-fukushima.html

July 24th - This week geo-political Report : http://benjaminfulford.net/2017/07/24/the-road-to-rome-leads-through-mecca-and-jerusalem/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/24/17 08:32 PM

My comment : Excellent recent interview of Jim Willie who gives an update of the geo-financial world . He covers lots of territory talking about the recent news and how everything interplay. We're soon heading for some really tuff times. Always keep in mind that the Lord will use this for His wonderful purpose and His perfect plan to establish His coming righteous Kingdom.

Jim Willie: Petrodollar System Collapse

https://ochelli.com/petrodollar-system-collapse/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/29/17 09:47 PM

My comment : Wow.... check out the links provided by the end of this article about Pope Francis making a new law on July 7 2017 July 11 2013(4 months after Francis was made Pope) to destroy all corporations in the World including liberating all individual who are corporate property thru our Birth certificates. This whole article from Stephen Jones is quite an interesting read.

Vatican watch dates
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/07-2017/vatican-watch-dates/

July 29th 2017

Stephen Jones

Quote:
First, some background for new readers:

I have written extensively since 2013 about the beast systems of Daniel 7 coming to an end of their authority from 2014-2017. It started when God gave Babylon the Dominion Mandate in 607 B.C., by which he conquered Jerusalem three years later in 604 B.C.

Babylon ruled 70 years, and then the Dominion Mandate was passed from the winged lion of Babylon to the bear of Medo-Persia in 537 B.C. They held it for a little over two centuries. Then in 332 B.C. it passed to the Grecian leopard, led by Alexander the Great.

Alexander died shortly thereafter, but the Grecian beast was given an extension, pictured in terms of four “horns.” These horns were his four generals, who divided the empire between them. Two of them (Syria and Egypt) fought continually over Judea and Jerusalem. In 168 B.C. the reigning monarch, Antiochus Epiphanes, far exceeded his divine mandate when he turned the temple in Jerusalem into a shrine to Zeus and forcibly tried to convert Jews to Epicureanism. So God allowed the Maccabees to gain independence for Jerusalem for a century (163-63 B.C.).

Then the fourth beast took Jerusalem, when Roman general Pompey took the city. Thus, the Dominion Mandate passed to Rome until it fell in 476 A.D. (The eastern Roman Empire continued until World War 1, when the last vestiges of the “Holy Roman Empire” dissolved.)

Daniel 7:8 gave this Roman beast an extension as well. It was known as a “little horn.” His identification and the timing of his rise is given in Daniel 7:25, where it says, “he will intend to make alterations in times and in law.”

The Emperor Justinian, ruling the Eastern Roman Empire in Constantinople (now Istanbul) changed the Empire’s calendar from A.U.C. (the year of the founding of Rome) to the Julian calendar that was based on the birth of Christ. He did this in 526 A.D. Then he completely revamped the Roman laws to reflect “church law” in 529, with revisions in 530. It was called the Corpus Juris Civilis. By establishing church law, he did not realize that he was relegating himself to the role of Enforcer of Church rulings. In 534-537 this was tested, and the Bishop of Rome won. The Emperor found that he had to back down.

Daniel 7:25 also gives the time frame of “a time, times, and half a time” for the little horn’s dominion. In Revelation 13, where this is quoted and explained more fully, we find that a “time” was 360 days/years. So 3½ “times” is 1,260 days/years, or “forty-two months” (42 x 30), as Revelation 13:5 says.

Hence, the Roman “little horn” was given dominion from 529/537 to 1789/1797 A.D. The French Revolution gave a “fatal wound” to the little horn of Rome, and in 1798 Napoleon conquered Rome, took the pope captive, and put him in prison. But later, because Napoleon wanted someone to crown him as emperor, he reinstated a pope in 1804. The fatal wound was healed. Soon after this, Napoleon fell from power, and the Roman church was able to continue, though under some restrictions.

A banking/financial beast arose, headed by the Rothschild banks, who were made “guardians of the papal treasure.” A legal guardian is one in authority over a minor or one who is indigent. This arrangement was made at the Congress of Vienna (1815), the “New World Order” of the day. Its mandate was to be for 99 years.

In 1913-1914, toward the end of that “New World Order,” a consortium of powerful banking families formed the Federal Reserve Bank and then started World War 1 in order to cause chaos so that they could form the next “New World Order” for the next 99 years. After the war, the Treaty of Versailles (1919) redrew the maps and established this World Order.

Now that we are approaching the end of that time (1918), the world’s power brokers are locked in a struggle for influence and power once again to receive dominion for the next 99 years (so they think). However, they do not realize that the beasts have run their course. The law of God stipulated that if Israel remained in rebellion against God, they would be ruled by other nations and “beasts” for seven times (2,520 years).

This time of tribulation finally arrived in 607 B.C., and 2,520 years later comes to 1917 A.D.

But Jerusalem’s independence from 163-63 B.C. deprived the beast nations of a century of dominion during that time, so a century must be added at the end. That brings us to 2017. That is why Mystery Babylon was added to the beast systems. It was like restarting the cycle and going back to Babylon for a hundred years. Now that Mystery Babylon’s time is ending, we find that a new Medo-Persia is overthrowing Mystery Babylon.

However, it is no longer Cyrus of Persia and Darius of Media who are overthrowing modern Babylon. Revelation 16:12 refers to them simply as “the kings from the east.” Today they are China and Russia, though Iran (old Persia) is also part of that alliance. This is why we see a great shift of wealth and power from the West to the East. What they do not know is that Isaiah 44, 45 prophesies that Cyrus would be God’s “shepherd,” God’s “servant,” and God’s “messiah.” Those prophecies had only a limited fulfillment when Cyrus and Darius came on the scene years ago. Today, however, these prophesies will be fulfilled, because the time of the beasts has expired.

The Year 2017

Now that we are half way through the year 2017, a clearer picture is emerging. I believe that the next few months will see the real start of the downfall of the western Babylonian system. It will begin to be replaced by the eastern Persian system. Those who are overthrowing Mystery Babylon today are unwittingly preparing the way for the saints to rule the Kingdom, as Daniel 7:22, 27 says.

From the origination of Justinian’s Corpus Juris Civilis (529-537 A.D.) to the year 2017 is 1480 years.

Jesus died on the cross on the 1480th Passover since Israel left Egypt under Moses. This was the time of that first “church,” which was called out of Egypt. I call it the Passover Church. The second Church, the Pentecost Church, also has a 1480-year time frame, beginning with Justinian’s Corpus Juris Civilis (529-537 A.D.) and ending 1480 years later (2009-2017).

In 2009, as this final act began to unfold in the judgment of the beast systems, we began to see the Elisha signs, which I have been writing about since 2009. It is also when Bitcoin was invented, starting “Blockchain technology.” It is now replacing the currency systems of the world with what is called “cryptocurrency.”

Cryptocurrencies are not debt notes, nor are they controlled by the old Babylonian banker families. The banks fought against it, but they failed to destroy it. Hence, debt-money is being replaced with debt-free money that is not controlled by the Babylonian banks. This all started in 2009, which is 1480 years after 529 A.D.

The number 1480 is also the numeric value of Christos (“Christ”) in Greek.

Pope Francis’ Motu Proprio: July 11, 2013

Pope Francis was elected Pope in March of 2013. In that position, he inherited control of all corporations in the world. All corporations are formed under local laws, but in the end, they all must conform to church law coming from Rome. (This began with Emperor Justinian, who began the era of the “little horn.” All legal systems in the West originate with Justinian’s Corpus Juris Civilis.)

A few months later, he issued a Motu Proprio, which legal analysts say removed immunity from corporations, paving the way for them to be brought to judgment. Here is the document itself:

http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/e...giudiziari.html

A brief explanation of it is here:

https://mainerepublicemailalert.com/2017...n-in-the-world/

The article seems to give the appearance that this Motu Proprio was issued on July 7, 2017, but as the actual document shows, it was actually issued on July 11, 2013. Keep that in mind.

The Motu Proprio was made effective on September 1, 2013.

The point is that on August 1, 2017 we reach the end of 1480 days since Motu Proprio was issued. On September 20, 2017 we reach the end of 1480 days since it took effect. So these are two important dates for us to watch.

August 1, 2017 will see a major shift in Bitcoin itself. I wondered if that date might be significant in prophecy, but I had no double witness on this until I connected it to the Pope’s Motu Proprio 1480 days earlier. Is it just a coincidence that this would be a 1480-day cycle at the end of a 1480-year cycle?

In my view, August 1, 2017 will mark the beginning of the end of the beast systems. After that date, I expect to see the Babylonian financial system begin to crumble. We saw how the stock market suffered in 2009 after the banking crisis in September 2008. I expect to see something similar happen in the last few months of 2017, and it appears that the pivot point will be August 1, 2017.

But since Motu Proprio was not effective until September 1, 2013, we should also count 1480 days from then. It comes to September 20, 2017. The evening of September 20 is the start of the new Hebrew year (Rosh Hoshana).

Then, of course, on September 23 we will see the great sign in the heavens, where it appears that Jupiter, the King’s Planet, will be brought to birth from the womb of Virgo. Undoubtedly, that will be a sign of the times that we should watch, for it comes in the context of the end of the 1480 days/years of the little horn’s rule.

Something big is on the horizon as we approach the end of the 99-year (old) “New World Order” that was established in June 1919.
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/30/17 01:55 AM

All very interesting.

However, it is not a "restructuring" that will result in a better world, with "saints ruling the kingdom" here on earth.

It is pointing to a time of trouble such as never was.
The true Babylon, while it is in league with the banking systems, is also pseudo=religious. Pope Francis is very involved, as you pointed out.

It will be a "form of religion" basing itself on Christian thoughts that fit their agenda, which will take center stage, complete with miracles that will overwhelm the mindset of the scientific/realism of people who now deny the supernatural.
Things, "great signs in the heavens", that cannot be explained by pure science, not just natural occurring signs such as " it appears that Jupiter, the King’s Planet, will be brought to birth from the womb of Virgo" but actual signs that defy science will overwhelm the thinking of all not grounded in the love of truth.

The last beasts are rising, not falling, in the wake of chaos, a form of religion will join hands with government, to make it appear that the "saints" are taking control and ruling, but it will not be "the saints" at all.


The posts show the world is in a critical time -- sitting on the edge of something -- totally agree on that point.

But we diverge considerable as to what it means.







Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 07/30/17 05:44 AM

My comment : On July 12th 2017 a group of Christians were praying as usual for President Trump and they got invited unexpectively to pray with and for the President inside the Oval office. The link below gives an account of that day with pictures and a video.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article160904779.html

Then recently Alex Jones interviewed Pastor Rodney Howard-browne who leads this prayer group where they pray 24/7 for the President ( I think since he got elected). Pastor Browne was also one of the Pastors who prayed at Trumps inauguration. Pastor Browne believes it's only by a miracle that Trump is our president and that God has placed him there to clean the swamp. Trump is succeeding by the power of God; but he needs our(the Christians) support and prayers. Very good and encouraging interview.

PASTOR RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE: ALEX JONES INFOWARS (7.26.17)(pt-5)

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/01/17 09:53 PM

Originally Posted By: GaryK
I am reading a book right now that I think you would find fascinating. It is titled "The Creature of Jekyll Island". It is about the origins and its actual functions versus it's stated functions, of the Federal Reserve in the US. It also gets into the IMF and the World Bank.


Gary ... does the book talk about these Creatures -- the Nephilims? Check out this witness that reveal some of the Jekyll Island hidden history that the Federal Reserve was dedicated on the altar-blood of some Nephilims tribe (some descendants that ended up in North America). Very amazing witness of a man that the Lord call to go to Jekyll Island over 10 years ago to do a spiritual warfare there. 5 days later after that man's prayer, the crash of 2008 happened.



Also the Lord has been leading Stephen to some revelation and spiritual warfare about the Nephilims and its links to the coming fall of Mystery (secret) Babylon.

The hidden significance of replacing the Nephilim
Aug 1st, 2017

Quote:
Background

On July 15, 2017 a group of us went before the divine court to replace the Nephilim at the spiritual gate in Hermantown, a suburb of Duluth. He was replaced with a Cherub called the Power of the Flame. Little did we know how this was to play out in the coming weeks.

That Nephilim objected and proceeded to accuse us falsely, so we were led to answer his objections two days later on July 17. But since he had accused us falsely in violation of the law, we had legal cause to bind him and send him to the feet of Jesus for judgment. The Judge then told us that He would render His verdict by July 22, 2017.

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...ine-court-work/

The underlying theme of this entire court case had to do with “provision,” although it was somewhat unclear why the gate signified provision. All we really knew was that this Nephilim had been given authority over provision and that it was now time to make a change. Provision then arrived on July 21, 2017, earmarked for the Open Door Ministry—specifically for the trips to the Philippines and Cambodia that I am planning to take in October-November. This confirmed that the verdict from the Judge went in our favor, as we knew it would.

Recall that Duluth is the Open Door (daleth), and Hermantown represents Mount Hermon, where the original Nephilim (giants) were born in Genesis 6:4. Naphal means “to fall” in Hebrew, and Nephilim is plural (“fallen ones”).

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/d...ine-court-case/

Next, the significance of August 1 was shown to me, for it was 1480 days from the Motu Proprio that Pope Francis issued on July 11, 2013. He did not issue this as the head of the church, but as the ultimate owner of all corporations. I gave extensive background in the following link, which ends with the explanation of the Motu Proprio:

http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/07-2017/vatican-watch-dates/

Now that we have reached August 1, 2017, we now have received the next level of revelation necessary to understand what is happening. Someone sent me a video, which I watched late last night. I was intrigued by this man’s story, because he told of his visit to Jekyll Island off the coast of Georgia and how he was given access to the very house (and parlor) where the Federal Reserve Act had been agreed upon in 1910.

The house, owned by John D. Rockefeller, had been built directly over an ancient stone altar, where an unusual giant tribe had offered human sacrifices during past centuries. They were 8 to 8½ feet in height, and their altar was unlike any among the Indian tribes in America. So although they are said to be an Indian tribe, it is clear that they were not Indians at all, but a branch of the Nephilim.

Here is where some of the richest men in the world dedicated the future Federal Reserve Bank, along with Federal Reserve NOTES, to the Nephilim in 1910. From there, the bill itself was written and presented to Congress in December of 1913.

The Fed and its money later became the main leader of all the central banks of the world, so that all could come under the covering of the Nephilim, sealed by blood sacrifice. I recommend that you listen to this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB9HakwkWIA

It is no coincidence that this video came to me on the night of July 31, 2017 as we entered August 1st.

The Story of Jekyll Island

I first learned of the meeting at Jekyll Island back in the early 1970’s, while attending the University of Minnesota. I did much research at the library there and saw for myself the February 9, 1935 issue of the Saturday Evening Post, pages 25, 70, which included an article written by Frank Vanderlip.

The story is quoted in G. Edward Griffin’s book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, p. 11.

“Despite my views about the value to society of greater publicity for the affairs of corporations, there was an occasion, near the close of 1910, when I was as secretive—indeed, as furtive—as any conspirator… I do not feel it is an exaggeration to speak of our secret expedition to Jekyll Island as the occasion of the actual conception of what eventually became the Federal Reserve System….

“We were told to leave our last names behind us. We were told, further, that we should avoid dining together on the night of our departure. We were instructed to come one at a time and as unobtrusively as possible to the railroad terminal on the New Jersey littoral of the Hudson, where Senator Aldrich’s private car would be in readiness, attached to the rear end of a train for the South….

Once aboard the private car we began to observe the taboo that had been fixed on our last names. We addressed one another as “Ben,” “Paul,” “Nelson,” “Abe”—it is Abraham Piatt Andrew. Davison and I adopted even deeper disguises, abandoning our first names. On the theory that we were always right, he became Wilbur and I became Orville, after those two aviation pioneers, the Wright brothers…

“The servants and train crew may have known the identities of one or two of us, but they did not know all, and it was the names of all printed together that would have made our mysterious journey significant in Washington, in Wall Street, even in London. Discovery, we knew, simply must not happen, or else all our time and effort would be wasted. If we were to be exposed publicly that our particular group had got together and written a banking bill, that bill would have no chance whatever of passage by Congress.”

Actually, Vanderlip was not the first to reveal that a secret meeting on Jekyll Island had taken place, but he was the first to describe it. Earlier, in 1930, Paul Warburg himself, the architect of the Federal Reserve System, wrote a 1750-page book entitled, The Federal Reserve System, Its Origin and Growth. G. Edward Griffin commented on this book, saying:

“In this time, he described the meeting and its purpose but did not mention either its location or the names of those who attended. But he did say, ‘The results of the conference were entirely confidential. Even the fact there had been a meeting was not permitted to become public.’ Then, in a footnote he added: ‘Though eighteen years have since gone by, I do not feel to give a description of this most interesting conference concerning which Senator Aldrich pledged all participants to secrecy’.”

Griffin also mentions a few of the conspirators on page 12 of his book:

“Here were representatives of the world’s leading banking consortia: Morgan, Rockefeller, Rothschild, Warburg, and Kuhn-Loeb.”

This is not a complete list, but I mention this because Rockefeller was named. He is the one who built the house over the blood altar, so there is little doubt that he (as its owner) was the one that was most responsible for dedicating the Federal Reserve Bank and its money to the Nephilim.

John D. Rockefeller himself was the son-in-law of Senator Aldrich, having married Aldrich’s daughter, Abigail. (Nelson Rockefeller, the Vice President under Gerald Ford, was their second son. Their oldest son, David, died on March 20, 2017 at the age of 101.) Benjamin Fulford wrote this in his report for July 31, 2017:

“Until recently, David Rockefeller was the secret leader of the planet earth. He was chairman of the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission. Furthermore, through various foundations he also controlled the fortune 500 corporations. In addition to this, because he was married to an Italian princess, Rockefeller also had enormous influence over the Vatican P2 Freemason lodge that controls the Catholic Church and the mafia.”

The Banking Crisis in 2008

On the video which told the testimony of the man’s visit to Jekyll Island, he said that this took place about 5 days before the collapse of Lehman Brothers. That collapse on September 15, 2008 nearly took down the entire banking system. Actually, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke met with more than 100 bankers in an emergency meeting from September 12-15, and this meeting ended with them allowing Lehman Brothers to collapse on September 15, 2008.

There seems to be a connection between the man’s prayer at Jekyll Island (around September 10, 2008) and the collapse of Lehman Brothers five days later.

When led by the Holy Spirit, prayer is an awesome thing. We are now in the second part of this prayer work. The video did not say specifically what he prayed about in 2008, but he may have given more details in other interviews, which I have not yet had time to hear. At any rate, I see his work as laying foundations for our own divine court work in 2017.

I wish everyone was more diligent in dating important dates in their lives. Most do not realize that the date of a revelation reveals a lot about its purpose and fulfillment. In this case, we only have a general date of September 10, 2008 to work with, “about five days before the collapse of Lehman Brothers.” I suspect that this date is accurate, however, because it appears to correlate with the first day of Tabernacles this year—October 5, 2017.

From September 10, 2008 to October 5, 2017 is 8 x 414 days (3312 days).

Is the Long Captivity Ending?

In my book, Secrets of Time, chapter 10, I wrote about this number. I wrote about the first captivity that Israel suffered under the king of Mesopotamia (or Babylon) in Judges 3:8-10. It was an 8-year captivity, but being the first captivity, it set a long-term cycle into motion for the next 8 x 414 YEARS, ending in 1948.

The first two cycles of 414 years ended with the fall of Babylon in 537 B.C. The final six cycles of 414 ended with the establishment of the Israeli state in 1948. This means that in 1948 we had the potential of seeing the end of our current Babylonian captivity—and the end of all of the beast systems. But, of course, it was still too soon, because an extra century had been added to our captivity in 1914-1917.

What actually did happen is that Esau killed Nimrod and usurped his garments, as the book of Jasher tells us. The Jewish state is prophetic Esau-Edom, since the Edomites were conquered and absorbed by the Jews in 126 B.C. They are the only ones eligible to fulfill the end-time prophecies about Edom. Since Jacob stole Esau’s identity to obtain the Birthright long ago, the divine court ruled that Esau would be allowed to steal Jacob’s identity at some point in history. This is what took place in 1948. Hence, the Birthright was given back to Esau-Edom, in order to allow Esau time to prove his unworthiness, so that the Birthright can be given to the saints of the Most High, who are truly called to receive it.

This 8 x 414 year cycle is about long-term prophecy. When we arrived at the end of that cycle in 1948, it appears that God gave Esau 70 years in which to bring forth the fruit of the Kingdom that is required from anyone holding the Birthright. Up to now, the Israeli state has failed to fulfill its responsibility. They did not declare any Jubilee, nor did they set us free from the debt-bondage of the Federal Reserve Bank and its cursed money that was dedicated to the Nephilim.

We are now in the general time frame for the collapse of Babylon in 2017-2018. But the short-term cycle of 8 x 414 DAYS from September 10, 2008 to October 6, 2017 may provide a more specific time frame for the end of Esau’s dominion.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/04/17 04:56 PM

I want to have hope that Trump is thwarting the plans. But it comes back to how could he have been allowed into the office. While things could have been changed prior to, after the Kennedy mistake, I have a hard time believing any future ones would not have been properly vetted before allowing into office.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/05/17 11:46 AM

Um, how did the giants survive the flood?
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/05/17 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Um, how did the giants survive the flood?


Good question, ProdigalOne. I would like to hear the answer to that myself.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/05/17 05:47 PM

Elle,

The answer to your question about Jekyll Island and nephilim is, no. I don't accept their current presence as anything other than evil angels posing as human giants. The book I referenced is purely about the Federal Reserve and it's true functions and goals. If it had gotten into something as sketchy as current nephilim I would not have purchased or read it.

Were there giants after the flood? Yes. Noah and his sons were giants, as were all the antedeluvians. But, they all died off and the cumulative effects of sin transformed humanity into who we are today. I don't necessarily doubt the claims of those who claim to have found the graves of giants, but when we start getting into the "return" of the nephilim as claimed by North American Indians we are getting into Satanic deceptions for this is just another distraction created by the devil to keep us excited about anything but preparing to meet Jesus when He comes again. Why will there be no "return" of the nephilim as claimed? Because there will be no resurrection of the dead until Christ comes. Therefore any beings appearing to be giant humans are going to be a deception. Humanity was denied access to the tree of life six thousand years ago, and even in the antedulivian environment which was much more friendly to human life than our current environment, no one lived more than a thousand years.
Posted By: Green Cochoa

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/05/17 05:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Gary K
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Um, how did the giants survive the flood?


Good question, ProdigalOne. I would like to hear the answer to that myself.


Maybe they hid in the stone jars.

http://www.viewzone.com/laos2.jpg


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Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/05/17 07:02 PM

That was pretty funny, Green. I got a kick out of it.

I've actually been pretty interested in all this since I first heard Rene Noorbergen, who wrote Prophet of Destiny, speak at the Walla Walla College church in 1979 or 1980. I bought his book Secrets of the Lost Races after hearing him speak, and it is still one of the better books out there on this kind of stuff.

I just bought couple of his other books, The Ark File and The Death Cry of an Eagle. This second book is really good. It shows how the US has moved away from its roots of Christianity and as a result is in the same sharp decline the Babylonian, Greek, and Roman empires went through, and for the same reasons. It was published in 1980 and I can only say he was basically prophetic in what he saw back then.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/07/17 03:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Gary K
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Um, how did the giants survive the flood?


Good question, ProdigalOne. I would like to hear the answer to that myself.

Tim Bence talks about descendants of Niphilims. And The Bible does say much about Nephilims and their descendants after the flood. Check what the Bible say.

I opened another discussion if anyone interested to discuss this further. Here's the link to the discussion : http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forum...amp;#Post184822
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/07/17 04:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Gary K
Were there giants after the flood? Yes. Noah and his sons were giants, as were all the antedeluvians. But, they all died off and the cumulative effects of sin transformed humanity into who we are today. I don't necessarily doubt the claims of those who claim to have found the graves of giants, but when we start getting into the "return" of the nephilim as claimed by North American Indians we are getting into Satanic deceptions for this is just another distraction created by the devil to keep us excited about anything but preparing to meet Jesus when He comes again.

I don't know what exactly you are talking about with the section I underlined and bolded above. The Jekyll Island tour quides and museum does not claim that these 8 feet to 8.5 feet tall skeletons found on Jekyll Islands are nephilims... they claim they are a native indian tribe.

It is Tim Bence, who have an archeological background and knowledge of American indians and he saw that the artifacts, pictures, and bones found does not reflect natives American Indians. But more similar to what he saw in Syria, Irak, whatever land the Cannanites occupied in the old times where he had already had went before going to JeKyll Island.

So from your reply, you seem like you didn't even watch the whole video or any of it. There's a longer video (4 hrs version) where the first hour Tim Bence talks about where he was(at another Cannanite sacrificial alter site in Syria or Irak or around that place, where it was brought down by the help of a local boy) just before the Lord ask him to go to Jekyll Island (the 2nd hour portion of the video). That's was a very powerful testimony.


Skip the 3 min introduction.

I would be more specific in my term usage...I would call them as descendants of the Nephilims not Nephilims. However, these ancients civilizations or tribes lost much of the giants statue with time as they crossed with ordinary people. They were still inspired by the Nephilims and its teachings when conducting these children sacrifices to Lucifer-Baal-Molech.

That's what Israel were doing when they entered to possess the land of the Canaanites...they ended up joining with the Canaanites worship & customs and polluted the land with the blood sacrifices and offering their own children to Molech. Many of these altars where not destroyed and the Lord commanded us to destroy them. So that's what Tim Bence has been called to do when some of these archeological altar sites where found.
Posted By: Garywk

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/07/17 10:37 PM

Elle,

No, I didn't watch the video. I don't buy into this tale of evil angels mating with humans and from that giants appearing in the land. My take on giants comes from a source you have rejected, Ellen White.

She says that Adam came forth from the hand of God at more than twice the size of modern day man. Now what exactly does that mean? I'm not sure. Was she referring to the average height of a man in her day, around 5'9", or was she referring to the height of a tall man in her day? I simply do not know and there is no way of finding out. At twice the height of an average man of her day Adam would have been 11'6" tall. If she was referring to a 6' tall man at exactly twice his height Adam would have been 12' tall. How much more than twice she meant no one knows. But it's probably safe to say that Adam, and antedeluvian men at large, were probably at least 12' tall and less than 18' tall for that would be 3 times the height of a 6' tall man.

This means there were 8 giants on the ark during the flood. And the effects of sin and a far less hospitable environment, compared to pre-flood times, to live in caused mankind to shrink. So will there be graves of giants found at some point? Of course there will. But they will not be graves of men who were amalgamated with evil angels. They will simply be the graves of men who lived in the first few generations after the flood. Humanity has decreased in size as it has decreased in longevity as sin has reduced what Ellen White refers to as our "vital force". We are also far less intelligent than Adam too. We, the smartest among us, only use approximately 10% of our brains. This is what makes me believe that we are only now beginning to reach the technological level of the antedeluvians. Those people lived for 100's of years and used far more of their God-given intellectual capacity than we are capable of doing.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/07/17 11:04 PM

I can't believe it. Elle, I thought you were speaking of Jekyl island and nephilim were allegorical as "Babylon" is. But you really believe that, don't you?!
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/09/17 05:51 PM

My comment : A major step in the destruction of Mystery Babylon -- Federal Reserve debt-slavery system.... Ethereum (block-chain technology) is currently a solution and replacing the Babylonian corrupt banking system. Both Russia and China are currently integrating this technology in various ways in their country.

Some examples :

Russia Launches $100 Million Bitcoin-Mining Operation

Aug 8, 2017 : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-08/russia-launches-100-million-bitcoin-mining-operation

Russia’s biggest banks take lead in embracing blockchain technology

Aug 2, 2017 : https://www.rt.com/business/398308-russias-banks-blockchain-digital-currencies/

A Russian Airline Is Now Using Blockchain to Issue Tickets
July 25, 2017 : https://www.coindesk.com/russian-airline-using-blockchain-for-tickets/

Putin Meets With Ethereum Founder To Create National Virtual Currency

June 12, 2017 : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-12...irtual-currency


China to Start Using Blockchain to Collect Taxes and Send Invoices
July 2017 : https://futurism.com/china-to-start-using-blockchain-to-collect-taxes-and-send-invoices/

China’s Social Security to Use Blockchain Tech
2016 : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/chinas-social-security-use-blockchain-tech/

Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/10/17 12:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : A major step in the destruction of Mystery Babylon -- Federal Reserve debt-slavery system.... Ethereum (block-chain technology) is currently a solution and replacing the Babylonian corrupt banking system. Both Russia and China are currently integrating this technology in various ways in their country.

Some examples :

Russia Launches $100 Million Bitcoin-Mining Operation

The whole block-chain/Bitcoin thing is not going to ever be anything that will "take over" the world economy. It would not be possible due to technical and other reasons. take, for example, this reference to Russia. $100 million dollars is next to nothing in the grand whole-story picture of the world's economy. Some things are "emphasized/embellished by certain media to make them things they are not. Bitcoin is more a haven for crooks to launder/hide their money. The leader of North Korea could tell us a few things about that.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/10/17 02:30 AM

The Wanderer...don't confuse the current bitcoin popularity that is non-gold-backed vs. the new coming gold-backed currencies that they want to apply the block chain technology(Ethereum) to it.

A return to a gold-backed currencies is what China, Russia and all other 200+ nations has been pushing since 2010. They won't settle for nothing less. They see great potential in using the Ethereum technology not only to be applied on a gold-back currencies, but to insure security between countries bi-lateral agreements, sharing sensitive documents, and other examples of what the Ethereum can be applied around the world that will lessen the dependency of banks, insurance cie, government control, etc.....

I have already discussed about this about a few month ago in this post below that I'm bumping. You probably missed it.

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : Bitcoin has reached incredible popularity & value this past few months. Now there's many new types of bitcoin surfacing that is competing. Jim Willie talks about it in this recent interview. Since a bitcoin unit cannot be measured and have no gold backing, he doesn't see it as a long term solution for the new economic system. However, the blockchain technology which is the gut of bitcoin will be used probably to created a gold-backed crypto currency. He believes that as soon that a gold-backed crypto currency will be released; then bitcoin and the fiat currencies will loose it's popularity. Also, he thinks that the highly secure blockchain technology used for interchanging Bitcoins will be used in the future to exchange sensitive private information between any two parties.

Gold-Backed Cryptocurrencies Will Eliminate Dollar | Jim Willie
June 7, 2017

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/14/17 09:46 AM

My comment : Well written.

Paul Craig Roberts Explains "How Conspiracy Theories Really Work"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-13...ies-really-work

Aug 13, 2017

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"The explanations imposed on us by the ruling class are themselves conspiracy theories. Moreover, they are conspiracy theories designed to hide the real conspiracy that our rulers are operating.

"911...Is it a believable conspiracy? The ability of a few young Muslim men to pull off such a feat is unbelievable.

"Moreover, there is no evidence to support the official conspiracy theory of 9/11. Indeed, all known evidence contradicts the official conspiracy theory.

"For example, it is a proven fact that Building 7 came down at freefall acceleration, which means it was wired for demolition. Why was it wired for demolition? There is no official answer to this question.

"It is the known evidence provided by scientists, architects, engineers, pilots, and the first responders who were in the twin towers and personally experienced the numerous explosions that brought down the towers that is described as a conspiracy theory.

"The CIA introduced the term «conspiracy theory» into public discourse as part of its action plan to discredit skeptics of the Warren Commission report on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Any explanation other than the one handed down was debunked as a conspiracy theory.

"Conspiracy theories are the backbone of US foreign policy. For example, the George W. Bush regime was active in a conspiracy against Iraq and Saddam Hussein. The Bush regime created fake evidence of Iraqi «weapons of mass destruction», sold the false story to a gullible world and used it to destroy Iraq and murder its leader. Similarly, Gaddafi was a victim of an Obama/Hillary conspiracy to destroy Libya and murder Gaddafi. Assad of Syria and Iran were slated for the same treatment until the Russians intervened.

"Currently, Washington is engaged in conspiracies against Russia, China, and Venezuela. Proclaiming a non-existent «Iranian threat», Washington put US missiles on Russia’s border and used the «North Korean threat» to put missiles on China’s border. The democratically elected leader of Venezuela is said by Washington to be a dictator, and sanctions have been put on Venezuela to help the small Spanish elite through whom Washington has traditionally ruled South American countries pull of a coup and reestablish US control over Venezuela.

"Everyone is a threat: Venezuela, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, tribes in Pakistan, Libya, Russia, China, North Korea, but never Washington. The greatest conspiracy theory of our time is that Americans are surrounded by foreign threats. We are not even safe from Venezuela.

"The New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, NPR, and the rest of the presstitutes are quick to debunk as conspiracy theories all explanations that differ from the explanations of the ruling interests that they serve.

"This conspiracy theory has no evidence whatsoever. It doesn’t need evidence, because it serves the interests of the military/security complex, the Democratic Party, the neoconservatives, and permits the presstitutes to show lavish devotion to their masters. By endless repetition a lie becomes truth.

There is a conspiracy, and it is against the American people. Their jobs have been offshored in order to enrich the already rich. They have been forced into debt in a futile effort to maintain their living standards. Their effort to stem their decline by electing a president who spoke for them is being subverted before their eyes by an utterly corrupt media and ruling class.

"If liberty continues to exist on earth, it will not be in the Western world. It will be in Russia and China, countries that emerged out of the opposite and know the value of liberty, and it will be in those South American countries, such as Venezuela, Ecuador, and Bolivia that fight for their sovereignty against American oppression.

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In the United States «conspiracy theory» is the name given to explanations that differ from those that serve the ruling oligarchy, the establishment or whatever we want to call those who set and control the agendas and the explanations that support the agendas.

The explanations imposed on us by the ruling class are themselves conspiracy theories. Moreover, they are conspiracy theories designed to hide the real conspiracy that our rulers are operating.

For example, the official explanation of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory. Some Muslims, mainly Saudi Arabians, delivered the greatest humiliation to a superpower since David slew Goliath. They outsmarted all 17 US intelligence agencies and those of NATO and Israel, the National Security Council, the Transportation Safety Administration, Air Traffic Control, and Dick Cheney, hijacked four US airliners on one morning, brought down three World Trade Center skyscrapers, destroyed that part of the Pentagon where research was underway into the missing $2.3 billion, and caused the morons in Washington to blame Afghanistan instead of Saudi Arabia.

Clearly, the Saudi Arabians who humiliated America were involved in a conspiracy to do so.

Is it a believable conspiracy?

The ability of a few young Muslim men to pull off such a feat is unbelievable. Such total failure of the US National Security State means that America was blindly vulnerable throughout the decades of Cold War with the Soviet Union. If such total failure of the National Security State had really occurred, the White House and Congress would have been screaming for an investigation. People would have been held accountable for the long chain of security failures that allowed the plot to succeed. Instead, no one was even reprimanded, and the White House resisted all efforts for an investigation for a year. Finally, to shut up the 9/11 families, a 9/11 Commission was convened. The commission duly wrote down the government’s story and that was the «investigation».

Moreover, there is no evidence to support the official conspiracy theory of 9/11. Indeed, all known evidence contradicts the official conspiracy theory.

For example, it is a proven fact that Building 7 came down at freefall acceleration, which means it was wired for demolition. Why was it wired for demolition? There is no official answer to this question.

It is the known evidence provided by scientists, architects, engineers, pilots, and the first responders who were in the twin towers and personally experienced the numerous explosions that brought down the towers that is described as a conspiracy theory.

The CIA introduced the term «conspiracy theory» into public discourse as part of its action plan to discredit skeptics of the Warren Commission report on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Any explanation other than the one handed down was debunked as a conspiracy theory.

Conspiracy theories are the backbone of US foreign policy. For example, the George W. Bush regime was active in a conspiracy against Iraq and Saddam Hussein. The Bush regime created fake evidence of Iraqi «weapons of mass destruction», sold the false story to a gullible world and used it to destroy Iraq and murder its leader. Similarly, Gaddafi was a victim of an Obama/Hillary conspiracy to destroy Libya and murder Gaddafi. Assad of Syria and Iran were slated for the same treatment until the Russians intervened.

Currently, Washington is engaged in conspiracies against Russia, China, and Venezuela. Proclaiming a non-existent «Iranian threat», Washington put US missiles on Russia’s border and used the «North Korean threat» to put missiles on China’s border. The democratically elected leader of Venezuela is said by Washington to be a dictator, and sanctions have been put on Venezuela to help the small Spanish elite through whom Washington has traditionally ruled South American countries pull of a coup and reestablish US control over Venezuela.

Everyone is a threat: Venezuela, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, tribes in Pakistan, Libya, Russia, China, North Korea, but never Washington. The greatest conspiracy theory of our time is that Americans are surrounded by foreign threats. We are not even safe from Venezuela.

The New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, NPR, and the rest of the presstitutes are quick to debunk as conspiracy theories all explanations that differ from the explanations of the ruling interests that they serve.

Yet, as I write and for some nine months to date, the presstitute media has been promoting the conspiracy theory that Donald Trump was involved in a conspiracy with the president of Russia and Russian intelligence services to hack the US presidential election and place Trump, a Russian agent, in the White House.

This conspiracy theory has no evidence whatsoever. It doesn’t need evidence, because it serves the interests of the military/security complex, the Democratic Party, the neoconservatives, and permits the presstitutes to show lavish devotion to their masters. By endless repetition a lie becomes truth.

There is a conspiracy, and it is against the American people. Their jobs have been offshored in order to enrich the already rich. They have been forced into debt in a futile effort to maintain their living standards. Their effort to stem their decline by electing a president who spoke for them is being subverted before their eyes by an utterly corrupt media and ruling class.

Sooner or later it will dawn on them that there is nothing they can do but violently revolt. Most likely, by the time they reach this conclusion it will be too late.

For the gullible and naive who have been brainwashed into believing that any explanation that differs from the officially-blessed one is a conspiracy theory, there are available online long lists of government conspiracies that succeeded in deceiving the people in order that the governments could achieve agendas that the people would have rejected.

If liberty continues to exist on earth, it will not be in the Western world. It will be in Russia and China, countries that emerged out of the opposite and know the value of liberty, and it will be in those South American countries, such as Venezuela, Ecuador, and Bolivia that fight for their sovereignty against American oppression.

Indeed, as historians unconcerned with their careers are beginning to write, the primary lesson in history is that governments deceive their peoples.

Everywhere in the Western world, government is a conspiracy against the people.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/20/17 03:20 PM

My comment : Charlottesville riots is a staged event called "Agitprop" are an attempt to delay coming global financial changes and to overthrow Trump. However, since the Lord has other plans; Mystery[Secret] Babylon plans will fail once again.

Here's a few links of interesting articles and you-tubes about it.

Far-right in US & Ukraine – same problem, different approach among politicians and media

https://www.rt.com/news/399605-far-right-us-ukraine-approach/

Why Was This 'Crowd Hire' Company Recruiting $25 An Hour 'Political Activists' In Charlotte Last Week?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-16...rlotte-last-wee

An Insider’s View of Charlottesville Violence, 1760


Bombshell Connection Between Charlottesville, Soros, CIA


Breaking: Charlottesville Confirmed Agitprop Staged Event
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/20/17 03:47 PM

My comment : This is highly interesting relating to the coming great sign in the heaven : the eclipse on Monday, Aug 21. This eclipse leads to the 2nd great sign in the heaven on Sept 23 when the Virgin(virgo) giving birth to Jupiter (“The King’s Planet”).

The seven Salems affected by the coming Eclipse

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...coming-eclipse/
Stephen Jones
Aug 19th, 2017

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There are 7 cities called “Salem” that will be affected by the solar eclipse on August 21.

http://blog.chrisify.com/2017/08/the-seven-salems-of-eclipse-coincidence.html?m=1

1. Salem, Oregon

2. Salem, Idaho

3. Salem, Wyoming (not mentioned on most maps; just on Google Earth)

4. Salem, Nebraska

5. Salem, Missouri

6. Salem, Kentucky

7. Salem, South Carolina

What does this signify? Well, first of all, Salem is the Hebrew word for “peace.” Jerusalem, or Ieru-salem means “City of Peace.”

An eclipse has never been a positive sign throughout history. It has always been seen as a sign of judgment or death in some manner. So we might interpret this to mean the death of peace, or peace being taken from the earth.

I recall when the Concorde crashed in Paris on July 25, 2000, and I heard the word, “Peace has been taken from the earth.” The pilot’s name was Christian Marti (“martyr”). At the same time, the peace talks between Israeli Prime Minister Barak and Palestinian leader, Yassir Arafat, collapsed when they could not agree over the status of Jerusalem. And so, 414 days later, on September 11, 2001, peace was indeed taken from the earth, and America entered into a perpetual state of war known as the “war on terror.” In reality, it was the start of the new Reign of Terror within the US government itself, much like what happened in the French Revolution from 1789-1794. The Deep State loves to control the narrative by calling things the opposite of what they really are.

This peace-destroying eclipse may also refer to the earthly Jerusalem itself. Though the eclipse will not be visible in Jerusalem, it is visible in seven cities of Salem here in the USA.

Witches love eclipses, because they signify the light being cut off and plunging the world into darkness. There are little known energies in times like these that witches love to harness for their own devious purposes. So there is no doubt that many of them will be meeting to pray to their gods and cast spells and hexes.

We ourselves have a divine court date at the same time (August 21) to repent and to oppose the powers of darkness. We have noticed recently that the powers of darkness are starting to come to the surface where they can be discerned and dealt with. Then two days later, August 23, will be our Renewing the Covenant prayer campaign.

If you recall from Secrets of Time, Abraham was born 1948 years from Adam. The covenant with Abraham was made when he was 70 years old—the year 2018 from Adam. Our year 2018 begins on September 21, 2017, just two days before the next great sign in the heavens, the Virgin giving birth to Jupiter (“The King’s Planet”).

The 40 days from 1 Elul to 10 Tishri are known in traditional Judaism as The Season of Teshuvah, “repentance.” Specifically, the people were to repent for worshiping the golden calf while Moses was in the Mount receiving the Ten Commandments. Teshuvah celebrates the 40 days of Israel’s repentance while Moses was in the Mount receiving the second set of tablets (Ten Commandments) in Exodus 34.

The final ten days from Rosh Hoshana (1 Tishri) to Yom Kippur (10 Tishri) are known as the Days of Awe. They are final ten days of Teshuvah, introducing the New Year.

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Fall_Holidays/Elul/elul.html

This year these 40 days extend from August 23 (our prayer campaign) until September 30 (Day of Atonement). It begins with our renewal of the New Covenant, as if we ourselves were going back up the Mount to receive the law written on our hearts. Meanwhile, the church is called to repent during that time, so that the glory will not be veiled once again by the Old Covenant. The veil of the Old Covenant must be removed in order to remove the blindness upon the people, as Paul explains in 2 Corinthians 3:13-18.

Paul says in verse 17 that it is only when this veil is removed that we can find true liberty. So we are not going into this prayer campaign to establish more veils, but to remove them. Hence, it is critical that we understand the terms of the New Covenant. Even as Moses returned from the Mount with the new tables of the law, so also the New Covenant is not lawless. The same law is written, but this time it is on our hearts (Hebrews 8:10), rather than on external tables of stone.

In other words, the distinction is not between law and grace, but between man’s vow and God’s vow. Who is responsible to fulfill the divine plan? Is it done by the will of man or by the will of God? Is it by the will of the flesh or by the will of the Spirit? Is it fulfilled by the power of flesh that has been begotten by blood line, or is it fulfilled by the power of the New Creation Man that has been begotten by the Spirit?

Which Jerusalem will prevail? Will it be the earthly Jerusalem, which the prophets denounced as “The Bloody City,” or will it be the New Jerusalem? Or, to use Paul’s allegory, will Hagar-Jerusalem be the “mother” of the Kingdom, or will it be Sarah-New Jerusalem?

In my view the eclipse over the seven Salems speaks of judgment coming upon the earthly, fleshly Jerusalem in order to allow the heavenly Jerusalem to bring forth the inheritors of the Kingdom.


These are the essential issues of the prayer campaign that must be established before the veil can be removed.


Preparing for a prayer campaign
https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/08-2017/preparing-for-a-prayer-campaign/
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/21/17 08:19 AM

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Why Was This 'Crowd Hire' Company Recruiting $25 An Hour 'Political Activists' In Charlotte Last Week?


The ad was posted by a company called "Crowds on Demand" and offered $25 per hour to "actors and photographers" to participate in events in the "Charlotte, NC area

Was the protest in North Carolina or was it in Virginia?

Was it in Charlottesville or Charlotte?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/21/17 05:15 PM

Originally Posted By: dedication
Quote:
Why Was This 'Crowd Hire' Company Recruiting $25 An Hour 'Political Activists' In Charlotte Last Week?


The ad was posted by a company called "Crowds on Demand" and offered $25 per hour to "actors and photographers" to participate in events in the "Charlotte, NC area

Was the protest in North Carolina or was it in Virginia?

Was it in Charlottesville or Charlotte?

What's your point? That the Chatlottesville riots was a grassroot event?

Don't you think it would be a little too obvious for Mystery Babylon to run the add in Charlottesville?

Do you know that Charlotte is only 4 hrs away from Charlottesville.

Did you know that the add was run just one week prior to the riot in Charlottevilles?

Did you read the articles and listen to the videos?
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/21/17 06:35 PM

My point?
Wanting to verify the authenticity of the report.

There are discrepancies and in a world full of false information it is important to verify things --
To "participate in events in the Charlotte, NC area, is not the same as participating in events in Charlotteville, Virginia.

Now it could very well be that it was intentional to cover their tracks, or it could be a linking of coincidence that weren't related.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/21/17 07:43 PM

My comment: Mystery[Secret] Babylon has their visible key men that they are carrying Babylon's agenda. John McCain is one of them.

I have 2 articles about John McCain. The first is how Mainstream Media(MSM) beautified this man. The second is how MSM is silent about John McCain KKK ancestry and him supporting the Neo-Nazi in Ukraine.

The third article is about the US ship called John S. McCain name of the father and grand-father of John McCain. This ship, suffered some major collision where 10 sailors are missing and 5 injured. This event happened today on the day of the great eclipse across America by which is a "watch date". Check out what Stephen prophetic discernment about it.

The beatification of ultra war-hawk John McCain

Jul 25th 2017: https://www.sott.net/article/357435-The-beatification-of-ultra-war-hawk-John-McCain


Media shamefully remains silent on Sen. McCain's KKK ancestry and how he put neo-Nazis in power in Ukraine

Aug 20th, 2017: https://www.sott.net/article/359712-Medi...ower-in-Ukraine


US Navy warship John S McCain collision

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...cain-collision/
Aug 21st, 2017
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When we are given watch dates, it is helpful to watch and see what actually happens on those dates. In this case, August 21, the date of the solar eclipse across America, is a well-known watch date for the entire country. This event happened on August 20 (American time), but it was 6:24 a.m. on August 21 where the event actually happened.

http://americanmilitarynews.com/2017/08/...medium=facebook

Headline: Navy destroyer USS John McCain collides with large merchant vessel; 10 missing; search and rescue underway

The U.S. Navy 7th Fleet put out the following statement:

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SOUTH CHINA SEA – The guided-missile destroyer USS John S. McCain (DDG 56) was involved in a collision with the merchant vessel Alnic MC while underway east of the Straits of Malacca and Singapore on Aug. 21.

There are currently 10 Sailors missing and five injured.

The collision was reported at 6:24 a.m. Japan Standard Time, while the ship was transiting to a routine port visit in Singapore.


If this event has prophetic meaning, it can hardly be good news, at least not for the current Senator John McCain, although technically, the warship (nicknamed “Big Bad John”) was named after his father and grandfather who shared the same name.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/7-...as-big-bad-john

We might interpret this in a number of ways. First, it appears that it was the US warship that suffered all of the casualties, suggesting that whatever event this may portend will not be good for America.

Second, if it is related to Senator John McCain himself, it may expose his heart as America’s chief warmonger. I can only hope that he will finally be exposed for who he really is. Both he and his father were long-time Mafia men. When investigative reporter, Don Bolles, was about to discover the truth about him and many others in the Arizona government in 1976, his car was blown up as he drove to pick up the evidence. His death stopped the investigation, and all the bad guys breathed a sigh of relief.

Don Bolles was assassinated shortly after we moved to Arizona in 1975. I remember the news reports very well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bolles

It appears that the warship’s collision is an ill omen for the bad guys, but has some positive elements for the rest of us.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/26/17 10:30 AM

My comment : Another great article by Pepe Escobar. Basically, the US war trap in N.Korea and Afghanistan is to stop the One Road One Belt effort to integrate these countries in a long-term trade Eurasia partnership that would build and benefit these countries whereas the US Deep State objective is to get them in an never ending war to destroy them while stealing all their natural wealth.

Korea, Afghanistan and the Never Ending War trap

http://www.atimes.com/article/korea-afghanistan-never-ending-war-trap/

By Pepe Escobar

23 Aug 2017

------ Conclusive quote -----------
"And the competition – once again, China – is already there, facing myriad infrastructure and red-tape problems, but concentrated on incorporating Afghanistan, long-term, into the New Silk Roads, aka Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), along with its security cooperation arm, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

It’s no secret the Russia-China strategic partnership wants an Afghan solution hatched by Afghans and supervised by the SCO (of which Afghanistan is an observer and future full member). So from the point of view of neocon/neoliberalcon elements of the War Party in Washington, Afghanistan only makes sense as a forward base to harass/stall/thwart BRI.

What Russia and China want for Afghanistan – yet another node in the process of Eurasia integration – is not much different from what Russia, China and South Korea want for North Korea: increased connectivity as in a future Trans-Korean Railway linked to the Trans-Siberian.

As for Washington and the proverbially bombastic, failed futurists across the Beltway, do they even know what is the end game of “investing” in two never-ending wars with no visible benefits?


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There are more parallels between an unfinished 1950s war in Northeast Asia and an ongoing 16-year-old war in the crossroads between Central and South Asia than meet the eye. Let’s start with North Korea.

Once again the US/South Korea Hunger Games plow on. It didn’t have to be this way.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov explained how: “Russia together with China developed a plan which proposes ‘double freezing’: Kim Jong-un should freeze nuclear tests and stop launching any types of ballistic missiles, while US and South Korea should freeze large-scale drills which are used as a pretext for the North’s tests.”

Call it sound diplomacy. There’s no conclusive evidence the Russia-China strategic partnership floated this plan directly to the administration of US President Donald Trump. Even if they did, the proposal was shot down. The proverbial “military experts” lobbied hard against it, insisting on a lopsided advantage to Pyongyang. Worse, National Security Adviser H R McMaster consistently lobbies for preventative war – as if this is any sort of serious conflict “resolution”.

Meanwhile, that “plan for an enveloping fire” around Guam remains on Kim Jong-un’s table. It is essential to remember the plan was North Korea’s response to Trump’s “fire and fury” volley. Kim has stated that for diplomacy to work again, “it is necessary for the US to make a proper option first”. As in canceling the Ulchi-Freedom Guardian war games – featuring up to 30,000 US soldiers and more than 50,000 South Korean troops.

South Korean President Moon Jae-in dutifully repeats the Pentagon mantra that these Hunger Games, lasting until August 31, are “defensive”. Computer simulations gaming a – very unlikely – unilateral Pyongyang attack may qualify as defense. But Kim and the Korean Central News Agency interpret the war games in essence for what they are: rehearsal for a “decapitation”, a pre-emptive attack yielding regime change.

No wonder the KCNA insists on a possible “catastrophe”. And Beijing, crucially, concurs. The Global Times reasonably argued that “if South Korea really wants no war on the Korean Peninsula, it should try to stop this military exercise”.

Can’t pack up our troubles

It would be a relief to defuse the drama by evoking that great World War I marching song; “Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag/ And smile, smile, smile.”

But this is extremely serious. A China-North Korea mutual defense treaty has been in effect since 1961. Under this framework, Beijing’s response to Trump’s “fire and fury” was a thing of beauty. If Pyongyang attacks, China is neutral. But if the US launches a McMaster-style pre-emptive attack, China intervenes – militarily – on behalf of Pyongyang.

As a clincher, Beijing even made it clear that its preference is for the current status quo to remain. Checkmate.

Hunger Games apart, the rhetorical war in the Korean Peninsula did decrease a substantial notch after China made its position clear. According to a Beltway intel source, that shows “the US and Chinese militaries, as the US and the Russians in Syria, are coordinating to avoid a war”.

Evidence may have been provided by a very important meeting last week between the chairmen of the US and Chinese Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Joseph Dunford and General Fang Fenghui. They signed a deal that the Pentagon spun as able to “reduce the risk of miscalculation” in Northeast Asia.

Among the prodigious fireworks inherent to his departure as White House chief strategist, Steve Bannon nailed it: “There’s no military solution, forget it. Until somebody solves the part of the equation that shows me that 10 million people in Seoul don’t die in the first 30 minutes from conventional weapons, I don’t know what you’re talking about, there’s no military solution here, they got us.”

And extra evidence in the “they got us” department is that B-1B heavy bomber “decapitation” practice runs – out of Andersen Air Force Base in Guam – have been quietly “suspended”. This crucial, largely unreported fact in the air supersedes rhetoric from Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Pentagon head James “Mad Dog” Mattis, who previous to Bannon’s exit were stressing “strong military consequences if North Korea chooses wrongly”.

Once again, it’s all about BRI

Now let’s move to Afghanistan. “Mad Dog” Mattis once famously said it was fun to shoot Taliban fighters. “Known unknowns” Don Rumsfeld was more realistic; he moved out of Afghanistan (toward Iraq) because there were not enough good targets to bomb.

Anyone who spent time working/reporting on the Afghan Hindu Kush and the southwestern deserts knows why the proverbial “there’s no military solution” applies. There are myriad reasons, starting with the profound, radicalized Afghan ethnic divide (roughly, 40% are mostly rural, tribal Pashtun, many recruited by the Taliban; almost 30% are Tajik, a great deal of them urban, literate and in government; more than 20% are Hazara Shiites; and 10% are Uzbek).

The bulk of Washington’s “aid” to Kabul throughout these past 16 years has been on the bombing, not the economy, front. Government corruption is cataclysmic. Warlords rule. The Taliban thrive because they offer local protection. Much to Pashtun ire, most of the army is Tajik. Tajik politicians are mostly close to India while most Pashtun favor Pakistan (after all, they have cousins on the other side of the Durand line; enter the dream of a future, reunited Pashtunistan).

On the GWOT (Global War on Terror) front, al-Qaeda would not even exist if the late Dr Zbig “Grand Chessboard” Brzezinski had not come up with the idea of a sprawling, well-weaponized private army of demented jihadis-cum-tribal Afghans fighting the communist government in Kabul during the 1980s. Add to this the myth that the Pentagon needs to be on the ground in Afghanistan to prevent jihadis from attacking America. Al-Qaeda is extinct in Afghanistan. And Daesh does not need territory to concoct/project its DIY jihad.

When the myth of the US in Afghanistan as a categorical imperative is exposed, that may unveil what this is all about: business.

And we’re not even talking about who really profits from large-scale opium/heroin trade.

Two months ago the Afghan ambassador to Washington, Hamdullah Mohib, was breathlessly spinning how “President Trump is keenly interested in Afghanistan’s economic potential”, as in “our estimated $1 trillion in copper, iron ore, rare-earth elements, aluminum, gold, silver, zinc, mercury and lithium”. This led to the proverbial unnamed “US officials” telling Reuters last month that what Trump wants is for the US to demand some of that mineral wealth in exchange for “assisting” Kabul.

A US Geological Survey study a decade ago did identify potential Afghan mineral wealth – gold, silver, platinum, iron ore, uranium, zinc, tantalum, bauxite, coal, natural gas and copper – worth as much as US$1 trillion, with much spin dedicated to Afghanistan as “the Saudi Arabia of lithium”.

And the competition – once again, China – is already there, facing myriad infrastructure and red-tape problems, but concentrated on incorporating Afghanistan, long-term, into the New Silk Roads, aka Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), along with its security cooperation arm, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

It’s no secret the Russia-China strategic partnership wants an Afghan solution hatched by Afghans and supervised by the SCO (of which Afghanistan is an observer and future full member). So from the point of view of neocon/neoliberalcon elements of the War Party in Washington, Afghanistan only makes sense as a forward base to harass/stall/thwart BRI.

What Russia and China want for Afghanistan – yet another node in the process of Eurasia integration – is not much different from what Russia, China and South Korea want for North Korea: increased connectivity as in a future Trans-Korean Railway linked to the Trans-Siberian.

As for Washington and the proverbially bombastic, failed futurists across the Beltway, do they even know what is the end game of “investing” in two never-ending wars with no visible benefits?

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/26/17 10:46 AM

My comment : I know it get's quite confusing to know what side President Trump is working with. Mainstream Media does also confuses the issue quite a bit. But do note that there's a different between Trump's goals and work versus the Deep States (aka Mystery Babylon) that is still controlling the US government. This article below is another example that we see that President Trump is not part of the Deep State and still working to reverse bad US policies and to liberate the US people.

Comment on President Trump;s Speech : Reversal of Bush "Exporting Democracy" Foreign Policies
https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/08-2017/comments-on-president-trumps-speech/

Aug 22, 2017
Stephen Jones

Quote:
President Trump made a speech yesterday to honor the ten who were lost in the collision of the US warship John S McCain.

https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/videos/10159704959520725/

In this speech, he announced a major change in government policy, reversing President Bush’s policy of “exporting Democracy,” as it was called. In reality, it is a reversal of the very destructive American policy of destabilizing Mideast countries for the purpose of bringing them more firmly under the control of the Babylonian rulers in the West.

We have known for many years that evil elements in the top echelons of the US military have cooperated with Babylonian rulers in subjecting the American people—and much of the rest of the world—to their policies of enslavement and control. Since 2001, this policy, according to General Wesley Clark, has been to use the US military to destabilize Mideast countries, including Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya, and Syria in order to solidify Babylonian control over that part of the world. Here is a 2-minute video clip where he speaks of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YtF76s-yM

President Bush sold this policy to the American public after the planned demolition of the Twin Towers on September 11, 2001.

President Trump is ending that strategy. In his speech, he said this:

But we will no longer use American military might to construct democracies in faraway lands, or try to rebuild other countries in our own image. Those days are now over. Instead, we will work with allies and partners to protect our shared interests. We are not asking others to change their way of life, but to pursue common goals that allow our children to live better and safer lives. This principled realism will guide our decisions moving forward.

We already had hints of this new strategy last April, when Press Secretary Sean Spicer made this point at a press conference in regard to Syria.

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...ies-in-5-years/

Trump knows, however, that it is far easier to start a war than to end it. He knows that America cannot simply stop fighting and send the troops home. He could only do so if he were able to admit the awful truth about our own government. But he cannot do so, because that would undermine patriotism itself and would spread great disillusionment and unrest. Worse yet, it would show that all who lost their lives in fighting those wars did so for an evil cause. No one wants to be told that soldiers died so that Babylonian rulers might increase their power to enslave other nations. These wars, after all, were supposed to be wars of liberation. So they said.

Our slave masters knew that selling these wars of enslavement to the American people would first require a great disaster that would shock them into being willing to go to war once again. That was accomplished on September 11, 2001. This was much like what happened at Pearl Harbor in 1941, where the US government used sanctions to force Japan to attack us. President Roosevelt called it an “unprovoked attack.” It was anything but that.

That war had been planned as early as 1921 when Japanese Emperor Hirohito visited Europe. The main purpose for this planned war was to find and steal the gold of the Chinese dynastic families that was hidden throughout Southeast Asia. It was decided that Japan would be used as the tool of the Babylonian bankers to steal that wealth. Regardless of who might win that war, the bankers would still own the wealth, because Japan has been an American colony since the 1860’s.

I first learned this by talking to a former Army intelligence officer in the late 1970’s, who told me that he had actually seen the document where he was stationed. I have since found much confirmation of this. Of course, Japan is not really an “American” colony at all. It is a colony owned by those who also rule America as their own personal colony. We were all reduced to the status of colonists a long time ago. True freedom is only a façade. We are allowed freedom as long as we continue to recognize them as our slave masters.

The Trilateral Commission, one of the chief Babylonian political power structures since World War 2, refers to a coordinated policy of Britain, USA, and Japan. These are the three (as in “Trilateral”).

All of this slavery has been hidden, though it is now being exposed in recent years. The Bible calls it “Mystery Babylon” for a reason. But in the end, the mystery (secretive nature of Babylon) is being exposed by the light. We would expect that to happen just before Babylon falls. Once exposed, it loses its mesmerizing power over the hearts and minds of the people.

The timing of President Trump’s speech on August 21, 2017 connects it prophetically with our own divine court work that was accomplished on the same day. I reported this yesterday. It suggests that Trump’s decision to change US foreign policy and to end the destabilization project instituted by President Bush might be one of the causes of the soon-coming chaos.

Babylonian rulers have already been trying to unseat Trump and to overthrow him. He is not one of them, so they have mobilized their lackeys in both political parties to unite against Trump. This is why the Democratic Party is being supported by Lindsay Graham and John McCain. This is also why the Democratic Party has suddenly joined forces with the Republican warmongers to put sanctions on Russia and to try to push us into more needless wars.

These new alliances expose the fact that both political parties work for the same bosses, who follow the old principle known as the Hegelian Dialectic: Thesis, Antithesis, and Synthesis. They present opposing ideological views (thesis and antithesis) and then pretend to compromise through “reason” to reach a predetermined solution (“synthesis”).

In other words, if we are presently sitting at POINT A, but the hidden masters want us to move to the left, they present an extreme cause to the far left (POINT C), and then the compromise shifts us to the midpoint (POINT B). That way they move us slowly but steadily toward their goal of increased power, control, war, murder, theft, and other forms of lawlessness.

Needless to say, the Kingdom of God does not engage in such stuff, although the Vatican has become very good at it over the centuries. But they are not the Kingdom of God. The Vatican is the “little horn” extension of the Roman beast system. That is why they have engaged in carnal political games for many centuries—as reported by the church historians, who were mostly bishops, archbishops, and cardinals in the Vatican itself.

But all of this is now coming to an end, and 2017 is a crucial turning point in prophetic history. Unfortunately, we cannot avoid the birthpangs of the Age to come. But we can be informed, so that we are not taken by surprise. We can be participants—midwives, as it were to the Kingdom and to the overcomers as they are brought to full birth in the feast of Tabernacles.

We are called to be watchful and to be prepared. Life itself is a preparation for the Kingdom. I believe that momentous times are ahead. There will be much chaos, but there will also be a tremendous move of the Spirit of God throughout the earth. As the world system fails and falls, so also will the Kingdom of God rise up to fill the void.

We are not merely called to watch and observe, but to participate, not in a carnal way, but in spiritual warfare, divine court appeals, casting out demons, healing the sick, raising the dead, and teaching the word. Not everyone is called to do all of the above, but whatever you are called to do, that you should do. Do all things in love and faith, never in fear. Remember always that the battle is not yours, but God’s. The outcome does not hinge upon you or me, but upon the power of the blood of Jesus Christ, and the power of His resurrected life.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/26/17 11:13 AM

My comment : We, as Christians, are to walk & follow the Spirit. This prophetic discernment about Hurricane Harvey coming unto Corpus Christi, Tx goes back over 35 years by the work of the Holy Spirit and is climaxing now. The conclusion....the beginning of the outpouring(flood) of the Holy Spirit that will come down on the body of Christ. That's very encouraging!

Prophetic discernment: Hurricane Harvey

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/08-2017/hurricane-harvey/

Aug 25, 2017
by Stephen Jones
Quote:
Hurricane Harvey is moving toward Corpus Christi, TX and will probably hit the city this evening. Since Corpus Christi means “Body of Christ,” it is a significant sign of things soon to come. Harvey means “blazing iron,” which is to be interpreted as “battle ready” or “battle worthy.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_(name)

Many signs can be interpreted in more than one way, and often the signs do indeed have layers of meaning. In this case, when I prayed about it, the Father said that this hurricane was to be seen as a good sign, a sign of the flood of the Holy Spirit that was about to come upon the Body of Christ.

Of course, the Holy Spirit usually disrupts our normal living patterns. So also there is no doubt that Harvey will do the same, not only to the city of Corpus Christi, but also to the Body of Christ in general. Yet those who are in tune with the Holy Spirit and who stay close to Jesus and His umbrella will not be affected adversely. Whatever fleshly things are swept away will be for their good, because for them, “all things work together for good” (Romans 8:28).

Background History

More than 35 years ago, there were prophecies about a great hurricane that was to hit Corpus Christi. This was often an intercessory issue during my days with the Net of Prayer in the 1980’s. I wrote about this in chapters 18 and 19 of my book, The Wars of the Lord. I went to Corpus Christi in June 1989 to deal with a hurricane, leaving home before there was any trace of a hurricane. Yet by the time I arrived, a hurricane had formed in the Gulf. On the shore at Corpus Christi, I rebuked it, and suddenly wind sheer cut off its head (as the weatherman said), and it died within 24 hours without hitting Corpus Christi.

My wife and I went again to Corpus Christi in 1997 to set boundary markers along the Gulf coast from Padre Island (August 21, 1997) all the way to Key West, Florida (August 26, 1997). This boundary lasted just one year, during which time no hurricane was allowed to hit the coast. But after the expiration dates (in 1998), many hurricanes began to hit the coast.

It began with tropical storm Charley which struck Corpus Christi (August 22, 1998). Then Hurricane Bonnie struck Cape Fear, NC (August 26, 1998). Then Hurricane Earl hit Panama City, FL (September 3, 1998).

Dragon Wars

This particular prophetic work was designed to protect the Body of Christ from the Red Dragon, which (at that time) was how these hurricanes were manifesting. We have had many wars against the Red Dragon over the years, most of them defensive in nature, because the time had not yet come to overthrow him. However, in 1996-1999 we had a three-year series of “Dragon Wars,” which I recorded in greater detail in chapters 18-21 of The Wars of the Lord.

These wars came out of the signs in the heavens, when Virgo appeared to give birth to the moon, beginning in September 1996. This was, of course, about the time when we were led to declare the 120th Jubilee from Adam (September 23, 1996). This sign in the heavens repeated four times, culminating in September of 1999, as we held the festival at Port Austin, Michigan to celebrate the 2000th birthday of Jesus, who was born in September of 2 B.C.

Now, in 2017, we are seeing another sign in the heavens coming on the 21st anniversary of our 120th Jubilee declaration. On September 23, 2017 Virgo (the Virgin) will give birth to Jupiter (the King’s Planet).

In 1996-1999 it was the moon that was brought forth. The moon signifies the church. In 2017 it is Jupiter that is being brought to birth. Jupiter signifies the coming King, Jesus Christ. The Hebrew name for Jupiter is Zedek, “righteousness,” and Jerusalem was called the City of Zedek. In fact, the nations throughout history have identified their own capital cities with Jupiter. Jerusalem was no exception.

Hence, Jupiter’s birth on September 23, 2017 ought to be seen in the general flow of revelation that began as early as September 1996. The fact that Jupiter will be born precisely 21 years after we declared the 120th Jubilee is no coincidence. Since 21 is the number of “distress” in Scripture, we might even see this as a long-term time of birth pangs from one age to another.

So from 1996-2017 brings us to the present time and the end of the beast systems, as I have explained often in earlier writings.

Overthrowing the Red Dragon

Earlier this week, on August 21, 2017, we prayed to cast down the Red Dragon and the other three archprinces of the beast nations.

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...nd-its-results/

Is it just coincidental, then, that Harvey became a hurricane three days later on August 24, and that today it threatens Corpus Christi?

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf/2017/08/hurricane_harvey_gulf_category.html

Hurricanes are always serious matters from an earthly point of view. But Harvey is different from the past hurricanes that threatened Corpus Christ, because we are now in a new day. Hence, the hurricane must be seen in a new light, according to the progressive flow of revelation that has been given to us.

On one hand, the “blazing iron” could be seen as a threat to the Body of Christ coming from the iron kingdom (Rome). But on the other hand, the Manchild being born comes with a “rod of iron” (Revelation 12:5). This is the sign that is now before us. The events of August 21, 2017, with the solar eclipse and the divine court case against the four beasts, now point toward the birth of the Manchild on September 23. He comes with a rod of iron.

Part of the divine court proceedings on August 21 involved claiming the four metals for God’s treasury (gold, silver, bronze, and iron). This was according to the instructions given to Joshua when fighting the battle of Jericho (Joshua 6:19). The battle of Jericho was the primary Old Testament sign of the fall of Babylon in the book of Revelation. Even as Joshua took the Kingdom long ago, so also the greater Joshua (Yeshua) is taking the Kingdom again on a greater scale. But in both cases, all four metals (kingdoms) must go into His treasury. Revelation 11:15 says, “The kingdom of this world has become the kingdom of our Lord, and of His Christ.”

In other words, when Christ takes over, He destroys the system of bondage in order to lay claim to the assets (people) of the beast nations. It is not about destruction, but about the restoration of all things. Those who disagree are like Achan, whose fate was not so positive. I wrote about the Achan Doctrine in chapter 10 of my book, Creation’s Jubilee.

So I believe we should look at Hurricane Harvey as a belated attempt of the iron kingdom of Babylon to destroy the Body of Christ, but in reality, God has ruled against the beast nations. God has taken the blazing iron sword of Rome/Babylon and has turned it into a rod of iron by which the Manchild will rule the nations. Whereas the beast nations are trying to destroy the Body of Christ with a blazing iron sword, God has turned their weapon against them, and is blessing the Body of Christ with an outpouring of the Holy Spirit.

For this reason, what is coming to the earth is not a repeat of Noah’s flood, which destroyed the earth, but the second flood—the flood of the Holy Spirit, which is coming to disrupt the existing order. When this flood is complete, “the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea” (Habakkuk 2:14).

Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/27/17 12:08 AM

While the "news reports" are of interest,
the prophetic conclusions are preparing the world
NOT for any emergence in a great world peace, nor for Jehovah's kingdom,
BUT for the greatest deception yet to come.

Mystery Babylon is a papal led movement,
it's aim is to overthrow Protestantism and everything that protestant America once stood for,
and bring in a supposed ecumenical peace led by the pope,
united with spiritualistic forces, a great FALSE revival will sweep the religious world
and a christ will come BUT it will not be the Christ of scripture at all.

It will be the "dragon" himself seeking to devour the true Christ. That has, from the beginning, been the dragon's greatest ambition -- to dethrone Christ and sit on the throne himself.
The dragon is that old serpent, the devil.
Satan will appear personating Christ, looking like Christ, speaking like Christ, but the discerning will recognize the imposter as he will speak against God's commandments and institute and enforce the commandments of men.

Stephen Jones, whom Elle appears to look to as a great teacher, is NOT a prophet or teacher of God.

He is preparing for the delusion:

Quote:
2Thess. 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


And I, for one, do not understand why an Adventist forum is presenting this very false teaching that is utterly in just about every point, in opposition to the teachings of the last day prophet sent to the church to warn us SPECIFICALLY against the teachings of men like Stephen Jones.

Hopefully the only good -- it will lead people to see the deceptions Adventist have long warned about, and are being promoted.
Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/27/17 01:06 AM

Originally Posted By: dedication
While the "news reports" are of interest,
the prophetic conclusions are preparing the world
NOT for any emergence in a great world peace, nor for Jehovah's kingdom,
BUT for the greatest deception yet to come.

Mystery Babylon is a papal led movement,
it's aim is to overthrow Protestantism and everything that protestant America once stood for,
and bring in a supposed ecumenical peace led by the pope,
The "greatest deception" ever to come will be the second coming of Christ.
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/27/17 01:15 AM

Originally Posted By: The Wanderer
Originally Posted By: dedication
While the "news reports" are of interest,
the prophetic conclusions are preparing the world
NOT for any emergence in a great world peace, nor for Jehovah's kingdom,
BUT for the greatest deception yet to come.

Mystery Babylon is a papal led movement,
it's aim is to overthrow Protestantism and everything that protestant America once stood for,
and bring in a supposed ecumenical peace led by the pope,...
a christ will come BUT it will not be the Christ of scripture at all.

It will be the "dragon" himself seeking to devour the true Christ. That has, from the beginning, been the dragon's greatest ambition -- to dethrone Christ and sit on the throne himself.
The dragon is that old serpent, the devil.
Satan will appear personating Christ, looking like Christ, speaking like Christ, but the discerning will recognize the imposter as he will speak against God's commandments and institute and enforce the commandments of men.
The "greatest deception" ever to come will be the second coming of Christ.


I must disagree --
Christ's second coming is NO DECEPTION -- it is the glorious hope of salvation. The great reality of eternal salvation.

However, (and this may be what you meant) Christ's second coming will fully expose and overthrow the great deception and counterfeits of Satan!

And the truth will be awful for those who fell for the deception and followed the false christ.

May we be among those, who at Christ's second coming will exclaim:
"This is our God, we have waited for Him"

Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/27/17 01:23 AM

Originally Posted By: dedication

I must disagree --
Christ's second coming is NO DECEPTION -- it is the glorious hope of salvation.
However, (and this may be what you meant) Christ's second coming will fully expose the great deception and counterfeits of Satan!

And the truth will be awful for those who fell for the deception, and followed the false christ.
There will be an attempt to fake the second coming, and this is clearly outlined in prophecy. It will "decieve if possible, the very elect"
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/27/17 01:29 AM

Originally Posted By: The Wanderer

There will be an attempt to fake the second coming, and this is clearly outlined in prophecy. It will "decieve if possible, the very elect"


Exactly -- this Stephen Jones and this "restructure" message is all preparing people to accept the "fake" Christ, who supposedly sets up here on earth.
Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/27/17 01:39 AM

Originally Posted By: dedication
Originally Posted By: The Wanderer

There will be an attempt to fake the second coming, and this is clearly outlined in prophecy. It will "decieve if possible, the very elect"


Exactly -- this Stephen Jones and this "restructure" message is all preparing people to accept the "fake" Christ, who supposedly sets up here on earth.


"All the help Christ received, every person may receive in the great trial.—Letter 116, 1899. {CTr 195.5}"
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/27/17 10:14 AM

Originally Posted By: dedication
Mystery Babylon is a papal led movement

I do understand that it is hard for anyone sincerely dedicated to the SDA Church to think outside the Church interpretation of Rev 13. However, our dedication is to Christ and not to a denomination nor to their interpretations.

To me SDA interpretation of Rev 13 doesn't hold water. I have expressed many times very explicitly where the holes are and how I don't see it fitting to scriptures and historical events. ( here's a few posts....see The Second Beast of Rev 13 is not "Apostate Protestant ( post 177171, post 177226 ); the Rev 16:12 link of Old Babylon(type) with Mystery Babylon(antitype) (post 179646, post 166869).

History and events are the fulfillment of prophesy for the Lord is Sovereign and fulfills His words thru history. History is an undeniable witness of the Lord's hand at work fulfilling His word in prophesies.

For those who still thinks the Pope or the papacy runs the show....to me that's not what history tells us and it's not even what scriptures(Rev 13) tells us either...see bumped post 181326 below.

bump post 181326
Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Not only do I believe the Papacy is part of the Babylon elites, I believe the Papacy leads the Babylon elites!

Who is on the top that leads the Elites has been kept secretive, deceptive, and confusing since the beginning of their rulership for "Mystery[secret] Babylon" has long made sure it was not an easy task to figure it out. Their power lied in the fact their existence was kept secret so to better control the world.

That's why we need to go back to historical sources and testimonies of those in those days that first handed came in dealing with them.

Actually the Jewish encyclopedia makes it clear who is on top. It is found in an article on the Rothschilds (in Vol. X), where it states :

Quote:
“It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.”


That quote above and others are found in Stephen Jones compilation & study :

Quote:
The Guardians of Papal Treasure
Jun 01, 2016

For four decades, as I studied the power structure of the modern beast, I noted that historians differed in their opinion as to who actually was in control of the present system. Most of these historians agree that the world is controlled by money and banking, but they did not agree on who controlled the big banks.

This question is vital to understanding the beast from the earth and his relationship with the beast from the sea. Revelation 13:12 says of the second beast,

12 And he exercises [or executes] all the authority of the first beast in his presence. And he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose fatal wound was healed.

This is an unusual situation. The second beast “exercises all the authority of the first beast,” and yet “he makes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast.” In all previous cases where a beast has arisen, he has overthrown the previous beast and relegated him to the pages of history. Whenever we see something unusual, we must examine it more closely to find out why it is so.

The first thing we see is that the authority itself was indeed transferred from the first to the second beast. Yet in spite of this, we see a cooperation of some kind being set up, wherein the conquered beast, having been brought back to life, is allowed to be worshipped as in previous times. In other words, the second beast does not want to be worshipped, for that would necessitate being out in the open. This second beast prefers to remain hidden and to keep the previous beast in place as the visible object of worship.

The Mystery

Such an arrangement comes out clearly in later chapters, where “the great harlot” carries the name “Mystery Babylon.” The term mystery comes from musterion, which means secret or hidden. Hence, the transition of power from the first beast to the second is the point where the beast empires (going back to Babylon) went underground so that they might rule in secret. Its secretive nature is even suggested by the fact that it was kept secret from Daniel himself. Only John exposes it for us to see.

There seems to be no other compelling reason for God to keep the final beast hidden from Daniel, other than to illustrate its secretive nature. Furthermore, because the first beast continued to be worshipped even after receiving a fatal wound, that first beast visibly appeared to rule until the authority was transferred to the saints of the Most High.

Not understanding this has caused many researchers to believe that the Vatican continues to rule the earth by its control of Western law and all corporations based upon that law. It is also argued often that the Vatican controls the Federal Reserve. But Revelation 13:12 does not support such a belief. John tells us that a new beast arose after 1,260 years, which secretly took all the authority of the first beast, while leaving that first beast as a visible object of worship in the world. In other words, the financial beast from the earth rules over the religious beast from the sea (Holy See).

The Boast

Obviously, proof in the form of signed documents are in short supply, for such papers would defeat the whole purpose of this secret arrangement. Without such hard proof, we have only Scripture at our disposal, which we may believe or disbelieve. Nonetheless, there have always been a few in each generation in the top echelons of power who know of this arrangement. It is inevitable that pieces of information would be leaked, especially since it is the nature of carnal men to want to boast of their power.

And so we find such a boast, written tersely with no explanation, in The Jewish Encyclopedia itself. The key is found in an article on the Rothschilds (in Vol. X), where it is written,

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“It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.”


http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/12909-rothschild

In other words, the Rothschilds became the “guardians” of the Vatican’s wealth, holding the key to Rome’s money. When this arrangement began—or what it means to be a “guardian”—is not stated, but the context of the article above states that a Catholic bank, Union Générale, had been set up in 1876 as to compete with the Jewish Rothschild banks, hoping the Vatican would entrust them (instead of the Rothschilds) with their money. This Rothschild competitor apparently did not realize that the Vatican had lost control of its own finances at the time of the Holy Alliance and was therefore unable to entrust its money to a Catholic bank.

Was it by choice that the Roman church continued to utilize a Jewish bank rather than a Catholic bank? If the choice had been left to the Vatican, it seems logical that they would have entrusted their money to Catholics who respected the spiritual authority of the church. But the Vatican seemed to ignore the Catholic bank, and the Rothschilds retained control over the Vatican accounts. Why?

The key is in understanding what a guardian is. Black’s Law Dictionary defines a guardian as:

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“A guardian is a person lawfully invested with the power, and charged with the duty, of taking care of the person and managing the property and rights of another person who, for some peculiarity of status, or defect of age, understanding, or self-control, is considered incapable of administering his own affairs.”


A guardian is appointed to exercise authority over the financial affairs of a minor, or someone who is mentally impaired, or one who suffers from a lack of self-control. Control of the owner’s finances is entrusted to the guardian who has understanding. Recall that the Apostle Paul said in Galatians 4:1-3,

1 Now I say, as long as the heir is a child, he does not differ at all from a slave although he is the owner of everything, 2 but he is under guardians and managers until the date set by the father. 3 So also we, while we were children, were held in bondage under the elemental things of the world.

Children say that they own certain things, but their ownership is subject to the will of another and is therefore not absolute. So also was the Vatican subjected by the Holy Alliance in 1815 to certain terms by which they would be allowed to continue. The popes were legally declared children, minors, under the guardianship of others, and their “treasure,” not only money but property, buildings, art, etc. came under guardianship.

There is no doubt that the Jewish Encyclopedia used the term guardian as a precise legal term. It suggests that the Roman church had been allowed to survive its deadly wound only on condition that it turned over its property and finances to the Rothschilds as their legal guardians. Thus, the Vatican had to admit legally that it was incapable of administering its own affairs on account of its past excesses.

Doubtless, it was the powers of the Holy Alliance that discussed this issue, bringing up earlier fears of Jesuit power. It seems that they agreed to allow the Jesuit Order to be reinstated, along with the church itself, on condition that their money be spent with certain limitations at the approval of the Rothschilds, acting as agents of the world powers.

The Bankers of the Holy Alliance

The Rothschilds were the “bankers to the Holy Alliance,” as Niall Ferguson says in two statements on the same page in Vol. II, The House of Rothschild:

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“Thus by the end of 1822 the Rothschilds could justifiably be regarded as bankers to the Holy Alliance…” (p. 127)

“The final coup which completed the Rothschilds’ emergence as ‘bankers to the Holy Alliance’ came in 1822 with the loan to Russia.” (p. 127)

He was referring to the Rothschilds emerging as the main banker who gave loans to the big three nations of the day, showing the stature of this banking house by this time. It adds credence to the Rothschild’s appointment as “guardians of the papal treasure.”

Ferguson also quotes the sons of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, who recalled their father’s words:

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“Our late father taught us that if a high-placed person enters into [financial] partnership with a Jew, he belongs to the Jew” (The House of Rothschild, Vol. II, p. 77).

It is apparent, then, that the Rothschilds became the legal guardians of the Vatican in 1815 and that this became more apparent in 1822.

The Rothschilds and the Royals

The Rothschilds themselves were the guardians, but this did not mean that they held actual power over the Vatican—at least not at first. Their power increased over time, of course, and gradually they were able to use the power of money to assert their will upon monarchs and nations. Certainly, they would have remembered the words of the Rothschild patriarch, and they would have worked toward subjecting the monarchs by the power of mounting debt. But this took some time. Meanwhile, their loans made them business partners, but as debt piled up, the servants became the real masters.

Power continually shifted over the years, as nations (including the church) plotted daily to increase their own power at the expense of the others. In 1917 Russia was overthrown by Rothschilds and other banking interests. In 1929 the pope made an agreement with Mussolini, in which the papacy received about $85 million from the state of Italy as recompense for their loss of the Papal States in the 1860’s. This money was used to set up the Vatican Bank.

The question is whether or not the Vatican Bank obtained genuine independence from Rothschild guardianship, once it seemed to be able to manage its own finances. The Vatican Bank became a major money laundering bank, not only for fleeing war criminals after World War II, but throughout the decades afterward. I do not know if these activities were done with the approval of the Rothschild banks or not, but the recent attempts by Pope Francis to clean up the banks has run into huge internal roadblocks within the Vatican itself.

Regardless of the changing situation over the past two centuries, if the Rothschild banks were appointed guardians over the financial affairs of the Vatican, it means the earth beast retained control over the sea beast in the background. Yet it is important to recognize that the Rothschilds in 1815 were appointed by the big three powers after the fall of Napoleon: Russia, Germany, and Austria. The Rothschilds did not dictate the terms, but positioned themselves to be entrusted with this guardianship.

Much of this arrangement has surely changed by now, as no such agreement can survive the ever-changing power shifts in history. But while such changes may be interesting, they are not fully relevant to the details established in Revelation 13. John saw only a brief outline and gave us only a short description of this final beast. The most important factor, however, is that the second beast was allied with the first beast while itself remaining secretive, allowing the first beast to remain to be openly worshiped as in previous centuries.
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/28/17 02:02 AM

Yes, I realize you have placed Stephen Jones as one of your main sources of truth. But how do you know he's not an agent of the papal plan.

The papacy is far larger than just the "white pope" who puts on the "pious" front. There is also a "black" pope -- and this has nothing to do with skin color.
They try to make it seem the "white pope" and "black pope" forces are in opposition to each other -- when in actuality they are working for the same goal just using opposites to shape the desired outcome.
And now we actually have a member of the "black pope's" army as the present "white pope"!!!

Quote:
“It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.”


Thankyou, that says it all doesn't it?
The only problem is that someone put in the word "competitors" when it should read "co-workers".
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/28/17 04:38 AM

Mystery Babylon is the Papal power.

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Such an arrangement comes out clearly in later chapters, where “the great harlot” carries the name “Mystery Babylon.” The term mystery comes from musterion, which means secret or hidden..


That does NOT vindicate the papacy at all -- it implicates it as Mystery Babylon.

The name Babylon is derived from BAB-ILU - the portal of the gods. It is religion seeking access to God by counterfeit means. Just as the tower of babel sought to reach up to God. Babylon seeks access to God in ways other than through Jesus Christ.

Mystery Babylon --
Mystery Babylon had a title for it's supreme priest/ruler -- it was Pontifex Maximus!

That title can be traced back to the ancient Chaldean times.
The Pontifex Maximus at the time served the god Marduk, the spelling of Marduk's name appears to affiliate him with the sun god. Marduk's most famous temple was the ziggurat Etemenanki ("Temple that is the foundation of Heavens and Earth"), a temple tower in Babylon, built after the model of the Biblical "Tower of Babel."

When Medo-Persia conquered Babylon, the Babylonian religion was maintained, but after a revolt of the priesthood, the priests of Babylon were driven out of Medo-Persia's Babylon, and established themselves at Pergamum, taking with them their title "Pontifex Maximus" and vestures.
In Pergamum, high on hill, was built a magnificent, huge Altar of Zeus, with many steps leading up to the altar. The Greeks associated Marduk with Zeus and the Romans with Jupiter. Many believe this to be "the seat of satan".


The Pontifex Maximums reign there as priest-kings of Babylonian paganism. Interesting isn't it that Revelation 2:13 in the letter to the church in Pergamum states; "I know thy works and where you dwell, even where Satan's seat is."

So the pagan mystery religion with the name Pontifex Maximus moved from Babylon to Pergamum.

In 133 B.C., Attalus III, the last Babylonian (pontifex maximus) to rule in Pergamum, willed his dominions to the Roman Caesar, and the kingdom of Pergamum merged with the Roman Empire along with mystery babylon's throne and the title “Pontifex Maximus.”
Pergamum later became a center of emperor worship!

In 63 B.C., Julius Caesar, who had been elected Pontifex Maximus, became emperor of Rome and vested the office of Roman emperor with the priestly powers and functions of the Babylonian Pontiff. Henceforth, the title Pontifex Maximus was used by the Roman Caesars as illustrated on a Roman coin depicting the image of Augustus Caesar (27 B.C.-14 A.D.) with his title “Pont. Max.,” which is an abbreviation of Pontifex Maximus.

The early Christians (including Peter in 1 Peter 5:13) called Rome "Babylon" as a "code name". (In Peter's day literal Babylon did not exist anymore)

In Constantine we have the curious case of the Pontifex Maximus of the official and pagan religion that was now seated in Rome —as the high priest of the Invincible Sun— professing to be a Chris­tian at the same time!

Seven, so called Christian, Roman Emperors carried that title.

During the reign of these seven Emperors, more and more the position of the bishop of Rome became enhanced, as dictator of Christen­dom, aided and supported by the imperial Pontifex Maximus of Roman paganism, claiming Christianity. This strange collaboration continued until the reign of Emperor Gratian (375-383 A. D.).

In 376 A.D., the Roman Emperor Gratian refused to accept the title Pontifex Maximus.

But look who now takes the title! Gratian offers the title to the Bishop (pope) of Rome!

In 378 A.D., Bishop Damasus was elected Pontifex Maximus, becoming the official pagan Babylonian priest seated on Satan’s throne in Rome. And that title has been claimed by the popes from that day forward.

As such, the popes converted the pagan Babylonian temples of Rome into Christian churches and introduced all kinds of pagan practices, cloaked with Christian covers, flooding the papal church with the mysteries of Babylon. All the pomp and ceremony that existed in ancient Babylon was now practiced in Roman papal Christianity.

A statement about the Pope’s position is found in William Barry's The Papal Monarchy:

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The Pax Romana (Roman peace) has ceased; it is a universal confusion. But wherever a Bishop holds his court, religion protects all that is left of the ancient order. A new Rome ascends slowly above the horizon...

The Emperor is no more...but the Pontifex Maximus abides; he is now the Vicar of Christ, offering the old civilisation to the tribes of the North. He converts them to his creed, and they serve him as Father and Judge supreme (emphases added).


Summary

Mystery Babylon -- Pontifex Maximus
The supreme priest of paganism, building the portal or gate to the gods. Originates in Babylon.

Babylonian priests flee to Pergamum several years after Mede Persia conquered Babylon. Maintain the pagan Pontifex Maximus religion.


Pergamum merged with the Roman Empire.
Julius Caesar takes the role as Pontifex Maximus -- supreme pontiff - bridge builder to the gods. Supreme ruler of the pagan religion. Title seen on many Roman coins.

Emperor Gratian refuses title and bestows it on Pope Damascus.
Popes from then till now, are the Pontifex Maximus -- Supreme rulers of the pagan Mystery Babylonian religion.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/31/17 09:14 AM

Originally Posted By: dedication
Yes, I realize you have placed Stephen Jones as one of your main sources of truth. But how do you know he's not an agent of the papal plan.


I quote more Tyler Durben from Zerohedge than Stephen as a main financial and geopolitical alternative news provider. Why don't you complain about Tyler and suspect him of being an agent of the papal plan?

I can understand that you do not agree with Stephen prophetic discernment as some do go against our SDA Church discernment & interpretation. And it is very clear to all that your dedication is to the SDA Church. That's fine dedication. However I read Tyler's Zerohedge more than Stephen's blog; because Tyler brings way more news on the table (like over 50 articles daily) versus Stephen who brings on average less than 2. But Tyler doesn't make any spiritual connection of the news like Stephen does.

Then, I try to limit my posting on this discussion to just a couple posts a week. So I try to only select the highlights articles that relates to this topic.

Since I don't have much time to post these days....and when Stephen comments on some of the current news and if I agree with his news comment or spiritual discernment.... then it is far easier for me to quote him then to write a comment about the article myself.

The thing is you are not the only person that reads this discussion dedication. Others are also interested and some do value Stephen's news comments.

Then I find your comment above very disrespectful and potentially a malicious witness against our believing brother Stephen. Let's assume Stephen is not a believer.... it is still very wrong to make such suggestive accusation of this sort publically without having any legit proof. So be careful and don't be caught starting some FAKENEWS and being found a malicious witness in the sight of God.

If you have a legit grounds for complaint against our brother Stephen Jones ... Jesus told us what 3 steps to take. Then you can always submit your complaints to the Lord directly in his heavenly court. Let the Lord judge the matter. However, be careful....the Lord always judges the person that brings an accusation on a brother first.... and if He finds you to be a malecious witness.... then He will judge you first.

Deuteronomy 5:20

20 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Deuteronomy 19:16-19 says,

16 If a malicious witness rises up against a man to accuse him of wrongdoing, 17 then both the men who have the dispute shall stand before the Lord, before the priests and the judges who will be in office in those days. 18 And the judges shall investigate thoroughly; and if the witness is a false witness and has accused his brother falsely, 19 then you shall do to him just as he had intended to do to his brother. Thus you shall purge the evil from among you.

Originally Posted By: dedication
The papacy is far larger than just the "white pope" who puts on the "pious" front. There is also a "black" pope -- and this has nothing to do with skin color.
They try to make it seem the "white pope" and "black pope" forces are in opposition to each other -- when in actuality they are working for the same goal just using opposites to shape the desired outcome.
And now we actually have a member of the "black pope's" army as the present "white pope"!!!

Originally Posted By: Stephen
“It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.”


Thankyou, that says it all doesn't it?
The only problem is that someone put in the word "competitors" when it should read "co-workers".

You mis understood what Stephen said see what I bolded and underlined. Despite what the white or the black Pope(Jesuit order stems from a Jewish history that infiltrated the RCC) appears to anyone today or says publically... reread the second part of Rev 13 where it says that the 2nd beast makes everyone worship the first. The reason is as we can see today.....it is so that the 2nd beast remains SECRET. It is not for nothing that the Lord named the 2nd beast -- Mystery[secret] Babylon.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/31/17 09:49 AM

My comment: It appears that Ronald Bernard, an elite whistle-blower on the children sacrificing satanic practices, was found dead. The latest article seems to confirm that. It's very sad that many courageous whistle blowers like Ronald end up dead. I'm very grateful for their witness.

The Whistleblower Ronald Bernard Found dead

http://www.oom2.com/t49348-update-ronald-bernard-found-dead-in-florida-not-true

http://www.stage2omega.com/breaking-2-satanic-pedophile-rings-busted-whistleblower-found-dead/

I had posted his first interview, but there's going to be 5 of them in total. Only 3 are currently made available on youtube. I'll relist them here as I think Bernard shares valuable information about the top elites and how they are organized and operate.




Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/31/17 09:59 AM

My comment : Good find and great financial news Stephen!...something I didn't see in any of my alternative news sources.

Russia gains independence from Babylon

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...e-from-babylon/

Aug 29th, 2017

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Russia’s President Putin has succeeded in freeing Russia from Rothschild slavery to the international banking system.

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In June last year President Putin banned Jacob Rothschild and his New World Order banking cartel family from entering Russian territory “under any circumstances,” and now, just over one year later, Putin has declared “total independence” from the global banking cartel and Rothschild international money lending organizations.

Declaring the achievement the “greatest gift” that can be given to future generations, Putin hosted a party in the Kremlin to celebrate the achievement.

“They said we couldn’t do it, they said we would be destroyed,” Putin told staff and senior associates. “Our future generations will be born without Rothschild chains around their wrists and ankles.”

“This is the greatest gift we can give them.”

https://politicalvelcraft.org/2017/08/27...-began-in-2006/

This is why Putin has been condemned by the Fakestream Media, and it is why Russia is considered an “enemy” of the USA. He is really an enemy to what we know as Mystery Babylon, but our political leaders consider Babylon to be the USA. After all, Babylon conquered this country in 1913 when the Federal Reserve Act was passed, bringing us into one of the final stages of beast captivity.

Most people do not understand Bible prophecy, so they are largely unaware of what is really going on in the world today, and they are susceptible to the lies from the Department of Propaganda. I believe that Russia and China are the modern “kings from the east” mentioned in Revelation 16:12, who are setting the stage for the overthrow of Mystery Babylon. (The original “kings” were Cyrus of Persia and Darius the Mede, who overthrew the original Babylon.) Iran is ancient Persia, so as an ally of both Russia and China, Iran too is playing a role in the overthrow of Babylon. That is why western Babylonian governments consider Iran to be an enemy.

I also believe that the last few months of 2017 will be crucial in the overthrow of Mystery Babylon, and that this will continue into 2018. Many changes are about to occur, but if you know and believe the promises of God and the divine plan revealed in prophecy, then you will have the strength to stand in the face of chaos.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/31/17 10:18 AM

My comment : More Stephen comments on Hurricane Harvey and the financial implication of this event. I'm not quoting the whole articles but an extracted portion of it.

Aug 28 : The descent into chaos
https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/08-2017/the-descent-into-chaos/

Quote:
...
"Keep in mind that Haggai’s prophecy of the great shaking probably has nothing to do with Hurricane Harvey. The hurricane has certainly “shaken” people in Texas, but I think this prophecy will be fulfilled by an earthquake, which will then cause a political and economic earthquake. When watching for signs of the fall of Mystery Babylon, an earthquake is much more likely to be the sign of both Haggai 2:6, 7 and Revelation 16:18.

"So I believe that there is much more to come. The good news is that with the fall of Babylon is also coming the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit to fill the void left by the collapsing world system and the exposure of its corruption and oppression."

Trump Pardons Sheriff Arpaio

Another media-made scandal is now being promoted by the Fakestream Media. President Trump pardoned Sheriff Arpaio, who had been convicted of a misdemeanor. He committed the crime of enforcing the law in regard to illegal immigration in Arizona. Enforcing immigration laws became a serious crime under the Obama administration.

I understand that there are times when man-made laws run contrary to God’s law. I disagree with many laws in America. Much will change when the Kingdom of God is established. In the case of immigration laws, I can find no such laws in Scripture, where the only illegal immigrant is one who refuses to abide by the laws of Israel—that is, God’s laws. The problem with our immigration laws is that we allow non-believers to come in who have no intention of submitting to Jesus Christ and His laws. They come to change the laws to conform to their own religious system or philosophy.

That is the deeper problem which has never been addressed in US history. And that is why the USA is not (yet) a Kingdom nation. At best, we were created as a Christian Nation, as the Supreme Court justice David Brewer ruled in 1892.

http://www.ministers-best-friend.com/US-...n-Decision.html

But President Obama declared that we were no longer a Christian nation.

https://www.mediamatters.org/research/20...hristian/149056

Obama was right, of course, insofar as present-day America is concerned. That is the problem. But a Christian nation is not necessarily a Kingdom nation. All Christians nations in the past were run by men and functioned by the traditions of men—men’s interpretations of the divine law. Such interpretations have been fatally flawed from the beginning. So while I might generally support the idea of a Christian nation as the best form of government that men can buy, I am looking for something better. A Kingdom nation is not possible apart from the rule of Jesus Christ as King along with the overcomers.

This is, in fact, what the coming Age holds for us. That is the goal of God’s judgment upon Mystery Babylon, which is now beginning to happen. When it does, then immigration will be restricted to those who are willing to submit to the King and to be obedient to His laws. Such a restriction may also exclude some Christians who give themselves the right to violate whatever laws they disagree with. (See Luke 13:28.)

But getting back to Sheriff Arpaio, he was attempting to enforce Congressional mandates that were long-standing. The Obama Doctrine says that the president has the right to ignore any law that he disagrees with and to persecute anyone who continues trying to enforce the law. Right now it is unclear whether the Obama Doctrine applies to presidents of either party. In fact, that is being tested right now, for the Fakestream Media is implying that Republican President Trump does not share that same right.

As he left office in 2001, Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich, who was one the FBI’s “Most Wanted” list, because he was a generous contributor to the Clinton political campaigns.

http://nypost.com/2016/01/17/after-pardoning-criminal-marc-rich-clintons-made-millions-off-friends/

Yet the media is “shocked” that President Trump pardoned Sheriff Arpaio, calling it an endorsement of racism. Both Clinton and Trump had the Constitutional right to pardon whoever they please, but Clinton was treated as a statesman, though he pardoned a notorious felon, whereas Trump will be treated as a criminal for pardoning a man trying in his own way to uphold the law.

The Nixon Doctrine says, "If the president orders it, that makes it legal." Nixon made that statement in an interview with David Frost.

https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2007/sep/07/greatinterviews1

This is a derivative of the Divine Right of Kings, applied to American presidents, as if they were kings. The Obama Doctrine is a further derivative of the Nixon Doctrine, setting forth the idea that the President is above the law and has the right to ignore it “if the president orders it.” Obama then began to enforce his own doctrine by targeting Sheriff Arpaio, who refused to submit to the new presidential Doctrine.

If this Obama Doctrine is allowed to remain, then Nixon will be vindicated. Is that really what the American people want? How can we credibly call ourselves “a nation of laws,” when those laws can be changed by presidential decrees?

Anyway, in my view, God is exposing the heart of the beast. There is great discontent right now, and the nation is divided. We are in the process of tearing ourselves apart, because there is too much diversity. Diversity is good, as long as we can agree on certain fundamental principles by which governments remain stable. Those fundamental principles, when you dig down to examine their roots, are always religious in nature, whether we like to admit it or not.

God Himself is bringing this age to a close, and He is the ultimate cause of this instability. If God did nothing, we would all be united in our lawlessness and “freedom” to sin until we simply destroyed ourselves. But the beast systems were given a limited contract, and we are now at the end of that “seven times” contract. To the Babylonians, that is bad news. To us, it is good news.


Aug 28 : More Thoughts on Harvey
https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/08-2017/more-thoughts-on-harvey/
Quote:
The tropical depression which later grew into Hurricane Harvey began on Thursday, August 17 as it came into the Caribbean Sea south of the Gulf of Mexico. It crossed the Yucatan Peninsula on August 23, emerging at 7:00 a.m. in the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico. From there is intensified quickly and within 2 days it was a Category 4 Hurricane that hit Rockport, TX just 30 miles north of Corpus Christi, TX.

I found a weather report online that was dated August 23, 2017.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-n...ibbean/70002485

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Harvey is likely to survive its journey and reach the southwestern Gulf of Mexico at midweek [i.e., August 23].

"Another opportunity for regeneration and strengthening may take place over the southwestern Gulf of Mexico from Wednesday to Friday," Kottlowski said. [August 23-25]


On July 4, 2017 I first mentioned a word that God had given me to being preparing for a prayer campaign on August 23. Its main purpose was “protection,” but I was given no further details. I mentioned this at the end of my report:

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Our heavenly Father is leading us to hold a prayer campaign on August 23, 2017. I do not know much about it yet, but so far we understand that this will be designed to pray for protection for God’s people during the fall of Babylon that is coming. This would also include protection in the midst of physical disasters.

This world is a dangerous place, and it is getting to be more dangerous each year. There is hardly a place that is safe, at least from the natural view. So we should not think in terms of safety, but in being where God wants us to be. That is always the safest place to be.


https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/07-2017/update-on-coming-events/

Now that the date has come and gone, things are much clearer. I had thought this might refer to an earthquake and tsunami in the Pacific Northwest, but that event is yet to come, I believe. Meanwhile, the flooding in Texas is “a sign of Noah.” In Noah’s day, after the first week of rain, they called it a 500-year flood. After two weeks, it was a 1000-year flood. After that, the presses went silent.

...
Our prayer campaign was designed to pray for protection upon those in Texas who are affected by the rain.
...

Harvey seems to be in no hurry to leave Texas. Usually, hurricanes move on, and things go back to normal. This time, however, the rains continue, and as time goes on, it is resembling more and more Noah’s flood. I think NOAA might even rename this storm after itself!

http://www.noaa.gov/

For many years I have taught that Noah’s flood removed the spirit/breath from man, but that there is another flood coming—a flood of the Holy Spirit—that will put His Spirit back into man. The day of Pentecost in Acts 2 was a partial fulfillment of this prophecy. The greater work is yet coming, as Habakkuk 2:14 prophesies,

14 For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

Noah’s flood was commemorated by Psalm 8, which prophesies how some day all things will be put under the feet of Christ (Psalm 8:6). Paul quotes this a number of times in the New Testament, speaking of the Restoration of All Things. (See 1 Corinthians 15:27, 28; Hebrews 2:8). By divine providence, Psalm 8 was the first passage of Scripture that I ever memorized. I was in first grade, but it established the foundations of my ministry as time passed.

The psalms are divided into five books, one for each of the books of the Pentateuch. This is recognized in the NASB. In the Genesis Book of Psalms (Psalms 1-41), each psalm correlates with a story in Genesis. Psalm 1 is about Adam in the Garden; Psalm 2 is about Cain killing Abel. Psalm 7 is about the flood. Psalm 8 is the aftermath of the flood, when Noah steps out into a new world.

But David wrote Psalm 8 to commemorate his victory over Goliath. Goliath represents the oppressive governments of the earth. So Hurricane Harvey is designed prophetically to give us victory over the modern Goliath—the Babylonian system that is ruled in secret by the descendants of the Nephilim.

Harvey is a type of the new flood of Noah, but also connects with David’s victory over Goliath, prophesying what is happening in 2017 as we near the end of the Babylonian beast system. In that sense, our prayer campaign was designed to build an ark for the people of faith. The Ark is Jesus Christ. All other boats tend to leak.

There is plenty of room in our Ark. All are welcome.


Aug 29th : Harvey moving to New Orleans
https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/08-2017/harvey-moving-to-new-orleans/
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Harvey has returned to tropical storm status as it moved back into the warm waters of the Gulf. The longer it stays there, the more water it picks up from the Gulf, depositing it as rain in Texas and Louisiana. Harvey strengthened to 50 mph winds again and is expected to move slowly northeast, dumping 5-10 inches of rain on New Orleans.

http://www.abc15.com/weather/harvey-re-enters-gulf-rain-to-shift-to-louisiana

Unfortunately, all the water pumps in New Orleans have broken down in the last two weeks, and they have no way to pump water out of the city. After Katrina, the federal government gave them $2 billion to fix the pumps. They said they needed $9 billion. So they compromised and built casinos instead.

As if Hurricane Katrina in 2005 wasn’t enough, it appears that New Orleans is in for another catastrophic flood. It will be interesting to see how many people move out before the flooding begins, and how many will remain to be trapped in the city again as they wait for the government to rescue them.

Harvey could well become the most expensive hurricane in US history. Coming at a time when the nation runs out of money and when Congress has to decide on raising the debt limit, this is not a good time for extra expenses. Do you recall when the US reached its debt limit of $20.1 trillion last March? How have they been functioning for the last six months? Why has the US not run out of money?

The answer is that they “found” money lying around unused. Really? What money? Well, they decided to raid the government workers’ pension funds, figuring that they would just replace the money later when the debt ceiling was raised. That is why the US won’t run out of money until September 30.

But now we are coming to the next big showdown as Congress debates raising the debt ceiling. “I will vote to raise the debt ceiling, if you vote for my favorite project.” Even Trump is threatening to veto any increase in the debt ceiling if the budget does not include funding for the border wall. He has yet to learn that if Congress calls his bluff, he will lose far more than Congress loses. He will end up being the lightning rod once again. Those who are trying to present Trump as “mentally ill” will only get more support from those who know it is a lie, but will use it as an excuse anyway.

No one thought Trump was mentally ill until he won the presidency.

The real solution to the debt is first to declare a Jubilee and reset the system. Secondly, the Federal Reserve needs to be nationalized, so that the government does not need to borrow in order to put money into circulation. We should be using Treasury Notes, not Federal Reserve Notes. But that would also release us from bondage to the banksters. When that happens, it will be a major sign of the end of our captivity.



Aug 30th : Harvey's aftermath and walking by faith
https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...lking-by-faith/

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Scenes from flooded highways and flooded shelters in Houston are now hitting the news. The authorities know of 30 dead so far, but like we saw with Katrina in New Orleans 12 years ago, the death toll is going to be much higher as more bodies are found.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4836656/At-30-dead-20-000-homeless-Houston.html

Estimates are now reaching $160 billion. If it gets any higher, we’ll be talking about real money. I have yet to see anyone overestimate the damage from a hurricane or any natural disaster. Further, the lost business activity, the destroyed businesses, the lost labor, will probably never be calculated properly. This is a multi-trillion dollar disaster.

First it was the wind, then the rain, then the flooding, then lack of food and water, and now disease. And all of this is the short-term damage. Many can overcome such things for a short time, but this is not a short-term disaster. Next will be the political damage as the government debates the debt ceiling in the context of Hurricane Harvey.

Americans (and anyone else living in Socialist countries) have learned to depend upon their government to save them. But as I said when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, the government is overwhelmed by these disasters. People want the problems solved within a few days or a week, but it takes a week just to get started. New Orleans lost a quarter of its population. Many of them moved to Houston. Once they got settled and put their children in school, it was not likely that they would ever move back to New Orleans.

Now the same thing is happening to Houston. The difference is that New Orleans was only a small city. Houston is vastly larger, and that makes the problem even worse. If the US government could not respond to Hurricane Katrina, how is it going to deal with Harvey?

Most people live from paycheck to paycheck. Harvey has not only forced people to stay home without pay, but it has also destroyed countless businesses where they were employed. It will take time for these businesses to rebuild—if they ever recover. Few people can afford to wait to get their jobs back. How many people will have no choice but to move to another city, just like so many did when Katrina struck New Orleans?

In another month, when the US government claims it will “run out of money,” how will the people react to Republican foot-dragging when it comes to raising the debt ceiling and passing a budget? Anyone who threatens to shut down the government will be run over by the train. If Trump insists on threatening to veto a budget deal if the Mexican wall is not funded, he will be run over as well. There is simply no feasible way to stand in the way of the hyperinflation train that is coming.

I suspect, too, that Harvey is not the only natural disaster that is coming. I think it is just the beginning. A second disaster would seal the deal. One can only imagine how widespread fear causes people to react. The result would be revolutionary.

I can only hope that our readers, at least, have been built up in faith to levels sufficient to overcome fear. If you do not live a life of faith, if you call upon faith only in times of need, if you do not have a sense of God’s presence with you at all times, then it is likely that you could react in fear along with the rest of the “normal” population.

We are not called to be part of the problem, but part of the solution. We are not called to compete with others for provisions, but to share what we have with those in need. We are not called to “survive,” but are called to exhibit the life of Christ. We are not called to cope, but to overcome. We are not put into dire circumstances so that we might despair with the others, for we hope in a God that we know personally, One who has led us thus far in our daily lives and who will not leave us as we walk through disaster around us.

I fully expect to hear reports of miracles from Houston and other places after things settle down. I received such reports after Katrina as well in 2005. Remember that the judgments of God are not directed at the saints, but at the oppressive systems of men who keep people enslaved. The judgments of God on Babylon are designed to set us free, to sweep away that which stands in the way of the Kingdom of God and His righteousness.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/31/17 10:55 AM

My comment : There's lots of news right now. It's hard to keep up.
I have 5 interesting articles from Zerohedge.

Jim Willie has been predicting about Saudi's Aramco partial sale to China as a coming game changer.

Aug 29th : The Aramco IPO: A Geopolitical Game Of Thrones
\http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-28/aramco-ipo-geopolitical-game-thrones


Aug 29th : Russia Backpedals On Bitcoin - Unveils Plan To Ban Cryptocurrency Sales To "Ordinary People"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-29...ordinary-people

Aug 29th : Israel Threatens To Bomb Assad's Presidential Palace
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-29/israel-threatens-bomb-assads-presidential-palace

Aug 31th : Brandon Smith: "Sorry, Joe Biden - The 'Soul' Of America Is Conservative"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-30/brandon-smith-sorry-joe-biden-soul-america-conservative

Aug 31th : "People Are So Afraid Of Google Now": Here's Why
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-30/people-are-so-afraid-google-now-heres-why
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 08/31/17 01:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : This is highly interesting relating to the coming great sign in the heaven : the eclipse on Monday, Aug 21. This eclipse leads to the 2nd great sign in the heaven on Sept 23 when the Virgin(virgo) giving birth to Jupiter (“The King’s Planet”).

The seven Salems affected by the coming Eclipse

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...coming-eclipse/
Stephen Jones
Aug 19th, 2017

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There are 7 cities called “Salem” that will be affected by the solar eclipse on August 21.

http://blog.chrisify.com/2017/08/the-seven-salems-of-eclipse-coincidence.html?m=1

1. Salem, Oregon

2. Salem, Idaho

3. Salem, Wyoming (not mentioned on most maps; just on Google Earth)

4. Salem, Nebraska

5. Salem, Missouri

6. Salem, Kentucky

7. Salem, South Carolina

What does this signify? Well, first of all, Salem is the Hebrew word for “peace.” Jerusalem, or Ieru-salem means “City of Peace.”

An eclipse has never been a positive sign throughout history. It has always been seen as a sign of judgment or death in some manner. So we might interpret this to mean the death of peace, or peace being taken from the earth.

I recall when the Concorde crashed in Paris on July 25, 2000, and I heard the word, “Peace has been taken from the earth.” The pilot’s name was Christian Marti (“martyr”). At the same time, the peace talks between Israeli Prime Minister Barak and Palestinian leader, Yassir Arafat, collapsed when they could not agree over the status of Jerusalem. And so, 414 days later, on September 11, 2001, peace was indeed taken from the earth, and America entered into a perpetual state of war known as the “war on terror.” In reality, it was the start of the new Reign of Terror within the US government itself, much like what happened in the French Revolution from 1789-1794. The Deep State loves to control the narrative by calling things the opposite of what they really are.

This peace-destroying eclipse may also refer to the earthly Jerusalem itself. Though the eclipse will not be visible in Jerusalem, it is visible in seven cities of Salem here in the USA.

Witches love eclipses, because they signify the light being cut off and plunging the world into darkness. There are little known energies in times like these that witches love to harness for their own devious purposes. So there is no doubt that many of them will be meeting to pray to their gods and cast spells and hexes.

We ourselves have a divine court date at the same time (August 21) to repent and to oppose the powers of darkness. We have noticed recently that the powers of darkness are starting to come to the surface where they can be discerned and dealt with. Then two days later, August 23, will be our Renewing the Covenant prayer campaign.

If you recall from Secrets of Time, Abraham was born 1948 years from Adam. The covenant with Abraham was made when he was 70 years old—the year 2018 from Adam. Our year 2018 begins on September 21, 2017, just two days before the next great sign in the heavens, the Virgin giving birth to Jupiter (“The King’s Planet”).

The 40 days from 1 Elul to 10 Tishri are known in traditional Judaism as The Season of Teshuvah, “repentance.” Specifically, the people were to repent for worshiping the golden calf while Moses was in the Mount receiving the Ten Commandments. Teshuvah celebrates the 40 days of Israel’s repentance while Moses was in the Mount receiving the second set of tablets (Ten Commandments) in Exodus 34.

The final ten days from Rosh Hoshana (1 Tishri) to Yom Kippur (10 Tishri) are known as the Days of Awe. They are final ten days of Teshuvah, introducing the New Year.

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Fall_Holidays/Elul/elul.html

This year these 40 days extend from August 23 (our prayer campaign) until September 30 (Day of Atonement). It begins with our renewal of the New Covenant, as if we ourselves were going back up the Mount to receive the law written on our hearts. Meanwhile, the church is called to repent during that time, so that the glory will not be veiled once again by the Old Covenant. The veil of the Old Covenant must be removed in order to remove the blindness upon the people, as Paul explains in 2 Corinthians 3:13-18.

Paul says in verse 17 that it is only when this veil is removed that we can find true liberty. So we are not going into this prayer campaign to establish more veils, but to remove them. Hence, it is critical that we understand the terms of the New Covenant. Even as Moses returned from the Mount with the new tables of the law, so also the New Covenant is not lawless. The same law is written, but this time it is on our hearts (Hebrews 8:10), rather than on external tables of stone.

In other words, the distinction is not between law and grace, but between man’s vow and God’s vow. Who is responsible to fulfill the divine plan? Is it done by the will of man or by the will of God? Is it by the will of the flesh or by the will of the Spirit? Is it fulfilled by the power of flesh that has been begotten by blood line, or is it fulfilled by the power of the New Creation Man that has been begotten by the Spirit?

Which Jerusalem will prevail? Will it be the earthly Jerusalem, which the prophets denounced as “The Bloody City,” or will it be the New Jerusalem? Or, to use Paul’s allegory, will Hagar-Jerusalem be the “mother” of the Kingdom, or will it be Sarah-New Jerusalem?

In my view the eclipse over the seven Salems speaks of judgment coming upon the earthly, fleshly Jerusalem in order to allow the heavenly Jerusalem to bring forth the inheritors of the Kingdom.


These are the essential issues of the prayer campaign that must be established before the veil can be removed.


Preparing for a prayer campaign
https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/08-2017/preparing-for-a-prayer-campaign/





"This eclipse leads to the 2nd great sign in the heaven on Sept 23 when the Virgin(virgo) giving birth to Jupiter (“The King’s Planet”). "

I'm not sure if these are your words Elle, or if you are quoting the false prophet
Stephen Jones?



"In my view the eclipse over the seven Salems speaks of judgment coming upon the earthly, fleshly Jerusalem in order to allow the heavenly Jerusalem to bring forth the inheritors of the Kingdom."

Stephen Jones




"There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD..."

Deuteronomy 18:10-12


"Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.
Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.
Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame..."

Isaiah 47:12-14


Elle, are you and false prophet/teacher Stephen Jones so far gone that you are daring to attempt to place God's stamp of approval on your use of "observation of times/astrology" by labelling it a "sign"?

Do not accuse me of judging you, it is God's Holy Unchanging Word that judges you:

"Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame..."


Please Elle, before it is too late, turn away from these blind and wicked teachers;
flee from these lawbreakers and their idols of silver and gold who have beguiled you!

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/01/17 08:25 AM

My comment : 2 recent interesting moving of the Holy Spirit. The first is Victoria White singing "We want revival....we want to see your kingdom here". I think her prayer-song will be fulfilled!

The second, is huge......the Nation of Islam's Louis Farrakhan Declares Jesus Is His Redeemer. Check out his witness!

God's Spirit is on the move!

1. Lifting spirits: Texas woman breaks out into incredible gospel performance inside Hurricane Harvey shelter

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4835802/Texas-woman-performs-gospel-song-Harvey-shelter.html

By Kelly Mclaughlin For Mailonline and Associated Press
30 August 2017

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Victoria White sang to evacuees at the Lone Star Expo Center in Conroe, Texas
White was filmed singing with others at the shelter amid rows of beds and cots
Massive flooding from Harvey forced thousands of evacuees into shelters
More than 13,000 people have been rescued in the Houston area and surrounding parts of Southeast Texas as Harvey ravaged the region

Gospel singers broke out in song at a Texas convention center on Tuesday night as the performers tried to lift spirits after thousands were evacuated from their homes during Hurricane and Tropical Storm Harvey.

Victoria White, along with Marquist Taylor and several others, sang to evacuees at the Lone Star Expo Center in Conroe, Texas, north of Houston.

Massive flooding from Harvey forced thousands of rescues that overwhelmed emergency responders as convention centers, churches and even mattress stores opened their doors to people needing shelter during the storm.

Victoria White, along with several others, sang to evacuees at the Lone Star Expo Center in Conroe, Texas, north of Houston +6
She sang amid beds and cots at the shelter as several people watched +6

White was filmed singing at the Lone Star Expo Center amid rows of beds and cots at the shelter by volunteer Joni Villemez-Comeaux.
'This woman's powerful voice, singing praise, lifted the Spirit of all within earshot,' she wrote on Facebook of White's performance.
She added: 'Hard to believe but close to a million people have already viewed this beautiful Soul spreading her gift. You're such a blessing.'




2. Nation of Islam's Louis Farrakhan Declares Jesus Is His Redeemer, Says Devil Can't Have Him

http://www.christianpost.com/news/nation...ave-him-196848/

Aug 25th, 2017

By Leonardo Blair , Christian Post Reporter

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Reflecting on his inevitable physical death, leader of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan, 84, declared in a controversial video recording Tuesday that Jesus will save him from the grip of death despite his organization's creed that there is only "One God whose proper Name is Allah."

The declaration came the same day Farrakhan was shown visiting Bishop Larry Trotter, longtime pastor of Chicago's Sweet Holy Spirit Church, who was hospitalized last Wednesday with a "serious illness" following a trip to Israel.


"I thank God for guiding me for 40 years absent my teacher (Elijah Muhammad). So my next journey will have to answer the question. I'm gonna say it," Farrakhan teased briefly in the clip before declaring: "I know that my redeemer liveth."

"I know. I'm not guessing that my Jesus is alive. I know that my redeemer liveth and because he lives I know that I, too, will pass through the portal of death yet death will not afflict me," he continued.

The official creed of the Nation of Islam blends teachings from the Quran and "the Scriptures of all the Prophets of God." Even though the Nation of Islam also claims to believe in the "truth of the Bible" the religious group also believes the Bible has been "tampered with" and reinterprets Scripture to avoid "falsehoods."


In the clip shared on Tuesday, Farrakhan appears to repent for the things that he has been teaching.

"So I say to the devil. I know I gotta pay a price for what I've been teaching all these years. You can have the money, you can have the clothes, you can have the suit, you can have the house but me, you can't have," he declared.

The Christian Post reached out to the Nation of Islam for comment on the video Friday and was directed to Farrakhan's official spokesperson, Richard Muhammad, editor of the Final Call newspaper. A message left with a representative of the publication for Muhammad was not returned. Other Nation of Islam officials contacted for this report also promised to provide a response to explain what Farrakhan meant in his comments but they did not respond by press time.

The Nation of Islam believes that Allah "appeared in the person of master W. Fard Muhammad, July 1930; the long-awaited 'Messiah' of the Christians and the 'Mahdi' of the Muslims," according to their website. Very little was known publicly, however, of the obscure "Messiah," according to a 1974 Chicago Tribune report.

"The Black Muslim movement came into being around 1930. Its first apostle was Wallace D. Fard, or Wallace Fard Muhammad, a salesman of silks, incense, and perfumes in the Detroit ghetto who is remembered variously as a light-skinned black man, a light-skinned Arab, and a white man," the report said.

The last man to see Fard alive was his successor and Farrakhan's teacher, Elijah Muhammad.

"Few can tell at this point, since Fard has not been seen since 1934 when he took off in an airplane from the Detroit airport. The man who saw him off, by his own testimony, was Elijah Muhammad [born Elijah Poole, the son of a Georgia Baptist minister], who assumed Fard's mantle and mission," the report said.

In the 1970s there were as many as 2 million adherents to the brand of Islam taught by Wallace F. Muhammad, according to the Tribune. Lawrence A. Mamiya, a professor of religion and African studies at Vassar College, estimated that Nation of Islam followers number about 50,000, according to a 2007 New York Times report. Much of that number was made up of prisoners attracted to the religion's emphasis on black identity and fighting racism. A small number of adherents can also be found in England and the Caribbean.

In August 2006, health problems forced Farrakhan to give control of the Nation of Islam to an executive committee. Radiation seeds implanted in the minister 10 years earlier to fight prostate cancer had gotten rid of the disease but he sustained damage to nearby organs.

It was suggested at the time that without Farrakhan, the now 87-year-old Nation of Islam would likely fade with no apparent successor.

In an earlier clip of Farrakhan speaking to congregants at New Sunny Mount Missionary Baptist Church in St. Louis, Missouri, on July 17, 2015, he appeared to be drawing closer to Jesus in the winter of his life.

"The Jesus that I know, he came into the world to save us from our sins. O thank you Jesus," he said.

"They say, 'wait a minute Farrakhan, I thought you was a Muslim? Yeah, Jesus was too," he said in a clearly false reach. Jesus was born a Jew.

"You never read in the Bible where Jesus said 'I'm a Christian.'... He didn't say it in Matthew, He didn't say it in Mark, He didn't say it in Luke, He didn't say it in John. Well, what are you fighting over? 'I don't wanna go hear Farrakhan 'cause he ain't no Christian. He don't love Jesus,'" Farrakhan said mimicking his critics.

"Stop lying. I can prove to you that you don't love Him. He said, 'I am the way, the truth and the life.' He never said he was Episcopalian or Catholic, but He is universal. Why do you fight each other over names He never used?

"Jesus said not my will but thy will be done. Listen to His Words. Whatsoever the Father bid me to say, that I say and whatever the Father bid me to do, that I do. That's the perfect description of what Islam is. It means entire submission to do the will of God," he said.


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/14/17 01:31 PM

My comment: As we can see that one of Mystery Babylon's agenda is to bring the population to accept Luciferian worship and sacrifices. Children sacrifices has long been the main sacrifice in the Luciferian worship. But the luciferian have many other "milder" types of sacrifices so to gradually introduce an uninitiated into their religion. Below is an example of one of the "milder" sacrifices that is turned into a big Festival. Around 70,000 people from all around the world came to attend this festival. Most people that attended didn't think this was going to be for real....but rather that this festival is for FUN.

This event was followed by Stephen Jones who comment about it in 3 posts.

Aug 30 : Burning Man festival in Nevada gets a dusting
Quote:
In 2006 the movie The Wicker Man came out, starring Nicolas Cage.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450345/

I saw the movie, and it was easy to see that it was a movie depicting a satanic ritual of “the burning man.” So now the Satanists have put together a festival of “arts” based on this. The Burning Man Festival is going on now in Nevada, but it seems that a dust storm has descended upon them in an ominous sign. I am reminded how Hurricane Katrina interrupted the Southern Decadence LGBT festival in 2005.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4835434/Over-70-000-brave-fierce-dust-storm-Burning-Man.html

Quote:
Amid the madness of this year's psychedelic symposium at Black Rock Desert, Burning Man participants on Tuesday found themselves absorbing the brunt of a punishing dust storm…


Among the pictures in the article, we read this caption:

Quote:
Burning Man participants cling to the top of a 20 foot high art project pyramid tower called 'The Tower of Babel' in the midst of a driving desert dust storm.


Another caption under the picture of an owl says:

Quote:
Burning Man participant Lauren Rock (R) throws her bouquet after she married Bob Peterson (L) in front of the 'Mucaro' owl art project.


This owl is similar to the owl that is seen at the satanic Bohemian Grove ceremonies each year, attended by many political world leaders and high-level bankers and other businessmen. They sacrifice an effigy as well to get people used to the idea of human sacrifice, in hopes of making such religious rituals acceptable once again.

Quote:
The Cremation of Care is a ritual performance undertaken at the yearly Bohemian Grove club, where a human effigy is sacrificed to an approximate 40ft stone owl. It is argued that the ritual is conducted because club members (often high ranking businessmen and politicians wearing hooded robes), will be involved in unethical business deals and corrupt political decisions in the coming year and want to rid themselves of any internal guilt.

They are cremating (getting rid of) their care (morals). Though it is also argued that care represents the “cares of the world” and that the ritual has a more innocent and positive purpose. Others interpret it as members simply “letting their hair down” and partying without a “care”.


http://wideshut.co.uk/cremation-of-care/

In recent years Satanism has begun to come out of the closet, with immoral festivals claiming to be “art” or “fun” or other poor excuses for attracting people to their murderous ways. As usual, sex is used as a drawing card to attract the lawless, immoral ones who do not realize how they are being trapped by their own desire to sin.

Sept 3: Human sacrifice at the Burning Man Festival in Nevada

Quote:
Billed as an arts and music festival, the Satanists would hardly want to put their human sacrifice on display for the world to see. But what about doing it in a way in which they could claim that it wasn’t their fault?

When they burned their effigy, a man ran into the flames as a self-sacrifice. We do not know if he volunteered for the job or if he was instructed (or even brainwashed) into doing it. But the effect is the same. No doubt the man understood the real significance of the Burning Man idea and knew that it was about human sacrifice.

In my opinion, the Satanists are desperately trying to maintain control over their crumbling Babylonian empire.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4848026/Man-falls-flames-Nevada-festival.html

Quote:
Emergency services bravely tried to rescue a festival-goer who ran straight into the Burning Man during Nevada's famous arts and music festival.

Approximately 70,000 people from all over the world have gathered for the annual Burning Man festival, which is taking place in the Black Rock Desert.

But crowds were horrified when one reveller made a beeline for the giant wooden effigy and was engulfed by the flames.

He had to dodge a number of rangers and law enforcement personnel in order to reach the fire, which stretches approximately 50 feet into the air.

Sept 6 : Follow up on the Burning Man festival
Quote:
I wrote earlier how the Burning Man festival in Nevada represents human sacrifice, but since it is such a public event, they have to burn an effigy, rather than a real person. But a man then ran into the flames in order to give it some reality. Whether he was brainwashed by some satanic cult or drugged, we will probably never know for sure. Even so, it is clear that this act was designed to create more sin and thereby increase the potency of their satanic prayer rituals.

The man was rescued by firefighters, but he later died anyway, according to news reports.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4848026/Man-ran-flames-Burning-Man-festival-died.html

Quote:
A man rescued from the flames at the Burning Man festival's signature burning of a towering effigy has died after being airlifted to a hospital.

Pershing County Sheriff Jerry Allen said the man ran through a human-chain of security officers at about 10:30 p.m. Saturday during the Man Burn event at the counter-culture festival.

The sheriff said the man was rescued by firefighters and later died at the UC Davis hospital burn center in California.


The Daily Mail published many photos of the festival, but one was removed later—but not before someone got a screen shot of it. The photo that was removed was of an abraxis:


abraxas-dragon.png

An abraxas is a gnostic idea. Gnosticism was founded by Simon Magus, mentioned in Acts 8:9.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas

Quote:
The seven letters spelling its name may represent each of the seven classic planets. The word may be related to Abracadabra, although other explanations exist.

There are similarities and differences between such figures in reports about Basilides's teaching, ancient Gnostic texts, the larger Greco-Roman magical traditions, and modern magical and esoteric writings. Opinions abound on Abraxas, who in recent centuries has been claimed to be both an Egyptian god and a demon. The Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung transcribed a short Gnostic treatise in 1916, attributed to Basilides in Alexandria called The Seven Sermons to the Dead, which called Abraxas the supreme power of being transcending both God and the Devil and unites all opposites into one Being.


It is no coincidence that this so-called music and arts festival would be religious in nature, tracing back to the Gnostic religion. Gnosticism was a mix of all religions, even bringing some Christian themes into it, which they reinterpreted in a way that supported their own mystery religious traditions.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/14/17 03:41 PM

My comment : Here's an interesting 2003 article with many evidences collected showing that the Mossad is potentially behind 9-11.

2003 : Mossad and Moving Companies: Masterminds of Global Terrorism

https://www.sott.net/article/124498-Mossad-and-Moving-Companies-Masterminds-of-Global-Terrorism

By which the 9-11 incident opened the door to all of the Middle East Wars as leaked by General Wesley Clark in the article and video below.

Article : Global Warfare: “We’re going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran..
http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going...sudan-iran/5166




My comment : Today we see that this bringing down 7 countries in 5 years counting from 9-11 2001 has desperately failed. They did not succeed in 5 years nor have they come any closer after 16 years of wars.

Do take note that Russia's intervention in helping the Syrian in the war only began in Sept 2015. That's 14 years after Mystery Babylon plans started to bring down 7 countries in 5 years. So we cannot say that Russia was the reason they have failed. They were seriously failing before hands (by the Sovereign hand of God). However, Russia's 2015 aid did quickly reduced the ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, etc... terrorist threats in many countries to the point that today, in 2017, these terrorist groups are practically eradicated from these countries and is almost a non-existent treat.

Today the US military and their European allies are hardly active in supporting ISIS in the Middle East wars since Russia has come to help Syria. However, we now see that Israel-Mossad is becoming desperate. They are trying to keep these wars up. Below are a few recent articles about their latest activities.

Sept 7 : Did Benjamin Netanyahu Just Panic?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-06/it-time-benjamin-netanyahu-panic

Sept 7 : Israel's Geopolitical Reality Check
https://www.sott.net/article/361411-Israels-Geopolitical-Reality-Check

Sept 8 : Israel Launches Air Strikes On Syria And Assad's "Waiting Game"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-08/israel-launches-air-strikes-syria-and-assads-waiting-game

Sept 13 : Israel officially supports the creation of a Kurdish state
https://www.sott.net/article/361923-Israel-officially-supports-the-creation-of-a-Kurdish-state
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/30/17 03:56 AM

Wasn't this "new Global Economic Restructure" supposed to have happened in 2012 and yet here we are in 2017 under the same old Global Economic Structure???
Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 09/30/17 06:23 AM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
Wasn't this "new Global Economic Restructure" supposed to have happened in 2012 and yet here we are in 2017 under the same old Global Economic Structure???
yes. You are right. One plot after the next is BIG Business for some people.
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/03/17 11:23 PM

topic POST!
If Elle doesn't respond to this or any other post, as her last post anywhere here was on September 14th, I want you all to know that she is very, very ill and urgently needs our prayers.
Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/03/17 11:24 PM

will be praying for her. Thanks Daryl smile
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/04/17 08:33 PM

Elle is in my prayers. Please, keep us informed Daryl.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/11/17 06:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
Wasn't this "new Global Economic Restructure" supposed to have happened in 2012 and yet here we are in 2017 under the same old Global Economic Structure???

#1 : No one ever said that the Global Economic Structure was going to be completed in 2012. However, it definetely started in 2012.

#2 : I gave the title of this discussion the same title of the video [now a dead link] that opened up this discussion in the OP post. What the title most likely meant to the Chinese Royal Families who created it and produced that video with an incredible message to the Elites Banksters that 2012 was the year that they were going to start a restructuring. Many nations demanded a reform in 2010 by which the Banksters agreed and signed the Basel III agreement. However, the Banksters didn't keep their word and they did not reform. It has been clear to everyone that Mystery Babylon don't want to reform or give up the control. So 2012, was the date when China & the nations stopped believing Mystery Babylon's lip service and they started to develop an alternative system to bypass Mystery Babylon's debt system.

So January 1st 2012, the Chinese Royal families, announced they will start the Global restructuring that I have been posting the development of it in this discussion since. I agree that the title could of been better worded. Maybe it was in the translation of Chinese to English that this title is lacking clarity. I don't know. But that title mis-wording is really a very minor detail as we do see that there is a restructuring that is taking place.

BTW, restructuring the whole economic platform of the world is not something that can be done overnight nor in 1 years. I think this will take many more years(20++ ?) to completely finish the process. The Chinese, who are leading the economic reform, are long term and very careful planners.

This restructure has taken a major leap in Sept 2017 as China has announced a gold back renminbi(RMB) to exchange on the bilateral (between two countries) level in commerce. This is the biggest news in 40 years. This will allow nations to trade among themselves using other currency than the Petro-dollar / US Treasury notes. I will give more details of this later.

Since 2012, the BRICS Nations, and the Eurasian Nations has done much in the Global restructuring of the Economic and financial world to move it :

---> from a Unipolar tyrant controlled structure backed by a fiat petro-dollars that over 200 nations in the world doesn't want to trade with it anymore
--->>> to a multipolar transparent structure backed by a gold-back currency.

#3 : Once people on this forum started to make smart remarks of the title of the discussion, I realized that I shouldn't of entitled the discussion as I did; but it was impossible for me to remove the "in 2012" from the title.

One or two forum brothers every year make the same remark as Daryl did. Even I think Daryl has made the same remark in previous years. And I have replied to these .... but of course no one is interested in my answer or the truth of the matter....but rather ignore it and just want to repeat this comment year after year so to shed some negative light on my person or the discussion. It's not an impressive behavior.

#4 : People like ProdigalSon and the Wanderer are a little less guilty as they are new here and aren't aware; but others that's been here since 2012 or before .... and still makes these comments???

Originally Posted By: Daryl
topic POST!
If Elle doesn't respond to this or any other post, as her last post anywhere here was on September 14th, I want you all to know that she is very, very ill and urgently needs our prayers.

It's true that I am very ill. I appreciate all your prayers. The cancer made it that I have less time & strength to post. Sorry about that.

For those interested in this topic could visit the following alternative news sites where I get most of the news from :

http://www.zerohedge.com/ : Excellent Global financial news
https://www.rt.com/news/ : World wide broad news
https://www.sott.net/ : World wide broad news
http://www.presstv.com/Default/Section/102/ : Middle East News
http://www.goldenjackass.com/main5.html : Tying all the financial Global news together by Jim Willie.
https://benjaminfulford.net/ : Ben Fulford reports news from many very unique and interesting sources that shows what is happening behind the scenes.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/12/17 10:50 PM

My comment : Wow... that would be wonderful!!! I've been hearing about these gold bunkers, accounts, and boxes since around 2010 via Benjamin Fulford.

Their timing to release these funds to help humanity and the earth.... couldn't be more perfect and needed! Just after the fall of Mystery Babylon Monetary Debt System that has put this world into debts, poverty, disease, war, environment abuse with severe pollution, genetic manipulations, etc... We and the earth are in great needs.

A judge from the International Court of Justice (ICJ) reveals the plan for the great Monetary Redemption that is coming soon




Oct 11, 2017

Stephen Jones comments on this video

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...is-coming-soon/

Quote:
HRH Lord Windsor Judge Sir Ricky Nathaniel, speaking from Malaysia, talks about gold assets that were set up in the early 1900’s that have never been used. He confirms the existence of the historical Heritage Accounts that many have talked about in recent years. He says that now they are about to be released to back the new financial system that is replacing the old system.

US Capital Bank is hardly known to the public, but it is the world’s largest custodial trust bank, which is a major shareholder of 17 prime banks, including HSBC. It also co-owns two major gold bunkers, holding huge amounts of gold that are to yet to be used to bring liquidity to the world financial system. US Capital Bank itself is backed strongly by cash and gold—more gold than is thought to exist in the entire world. There are bunkers around the world holding vast amounts of gold, but none of these assets can be used without the special redemption court license from the ICJ and various governmental agencies.

These assets can be used only by matching the serial numbers on the box with the accounts that were created in the early 1900’s and with the gold assigned to various bunkers. These assets were put in various bunkers in 1959-1961.

The amount of money is so huge, into the quintillions of dollars, it is possible only through the central banks. Yet the central banks cannot issue any money without licensing letters from the ICJ, authorizing the banks to issue this gold-backed money. Clearance to use these Heritage Accounts are at a “very advanced stage” of development.

“It is top priority for us to start redeeming now,” he says. It appears that this is coinciding with our general time frame for the fall of the Babylonian system and the start of earth’s redemption from a financial point of view. In the early 1900’s, the assets in question were originally given in trust (on 60-year contracts, I have heard) for the benefit of the world, but much was stolen or misused for the benefit of the few. So the contracts were not renewed when they began to come due in the late 1900’s. The bad guys refused to give back the assets, and so these have been tied up for decades.

I know from other studies that much of the paperwork was stored in the World Trade Center, and that the assets were to be released on September 12, 2001. That was at least one reason why the buildings were destroyed on September 11. The bad guys were hoping to delay the return of the assets to the rightful owners, so that they could maintain their grip on power.

But now it appears that the legal process is reaching its conclusion. I suspect that this is also why there is such a heightened threat of war with North Korea. The bad guys still hope to stop this redemption from taking place. But I believe we are now at the time of the end, so I do not think that anything will stop it. Most likely, then, there will be no war with North Korea.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/15/17 04:17 AM



I have missed you, Elle. We have had our differences in the past, but I hope you know that your are loved, my sister. And, this place needs someone to shake things up once in awhile.

I continue to pray for your health, both spiritual and physical. Please, take good care of yourself.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/15/17 04:27 AM

This is a fascinating post. Much food for thought.

I am a bit confused, though:
Where did the wealth in these gold bunkers originate?
What was the motive for stashing it all those decades ago?
Who are the rightful owners?
How will it benefit the general population, if it is released to those rightful owners?

Sorry if these questions were answered. I did watch the video, but I get lost when too much banker jargon is spoken. dunno



Posted By: The Wanderer

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/15/17 04:30 AM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne


I have missed you, Elle. We have had our differences in the past, but I hope you know that your are loved, my sister. And, this place needs someone to shake things up once in awhile.

I continue to pray for your health, both spiritual and physical. Please, take good care of yourself.
I second all of that. Praying for you too Elle. smile
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/15/17 03:10 PM

My comment : On September 1st 2017, China announced the Shanghai-based oil for gold futures contract. These contracts used in bi-lateral trading allows any nation to sell oil to China and get paid in gold.

China Readies Yuan-Priced Crude Oil Benchmark Backed By Gold
http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/W...ed-By-Gold.html

Quote:
"The world’s top oil importer, China, is preparing to launch a crude oil futures contract denominated in Chinese yuan and convertible into gold, potentially creating the most important Asian oil benchmark and allowing oil exporters to bypass U.S.-dollar denominated benchmarks by trading in yuan, Nikkei Asian Review reports.

"Last month, the Shanghai Futures Exchange and its subsidiary Shanghai International Energy Exchange, INE, successfully completed four tests in production environment for the crude oil futures, and the exchange continues with preparatory works for the listing of crude oil futures, aiming for the launch by the end of this year.

The rules of the global oil game may begin to change enormously,” ...

"The yuan-denominated futures contract has been in the works for years...

"But according to analysts who spoke to Nikkei Asian Review, backing the yuan-priced futures with gold would be appealing to oil exporters, especially to those that would rather avoid U.S. dollars in trade.
[My comment : by which there are many]

“It is a mechanism which is likely to appeal to oil producers that prefer to avoid using dollars, and are not ready to accept that being paid in yuan for oil sales to China is a good idea either,"


My comment : Jim Willie has been talking about this coming move by China for awhile. He says that the next step is to launch the Gold Trade Note that would be used for international bilateral trade of any commodities.

He starts talking about it on the 3 min mark.



This oil-gold futures contracts will quickly put an end of the Petro-dollar usage in the East.

Russia Replacing OPEC : Building an International Oil Consortium

Starting at the 14min mark, Jim shares another huge news is Russia is building an international Oil consortium (building a pool of refine oil supply ready for sale in Europe & Eurasian countries) that would replace OPEC. Basically, Russia is buying oil from other countries like Venezuela, Saudis, Iran, etc... now negotiating with Mexico to facilitates these countries to have some cash flow while Russia buys crude oil while it's main features is to by-pass the Petro-dollars and being paid in gold.

Turning Point Nations on the Stage

Here's a handy quick bullet style report of recent financial news grouped by countries written by Jim Willie. We can see below that there's many things that are taking place that all play a role in the restructure of the world economic platform.

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1507665780.php

Oct 10, 2017

Quote:
CHINA LEADS IN NON-USD PLATFORMS

The Shanghai-based oil for gold futures contract has been heralded

Russian oil delivery to China has been paid in RMB terms for two years

Russians use Sverbank offices in Beijing to redeem RMB in gold bullion

Numerous non-USD platforms are well along in usage

Numerous large construction projects have begun under One Belt One Road

Several dozen countries are onboard the OBOR smorgasbord table (not USA)

The Eurasian Trade Zone is taking shape with Russian full lead cooperation

SAUDI ARABIA SHEDS THE PETRO-DOLLAR

The Chinese have cut several energy and investment deals inside Saudi Arabia

The Chinese seek oil sales in RMB payment terms for Saudi oil

The Chinese are engaged in the ARAMCO oil conglomerate IPO investment

The Russians and Saudis have signed military deals for missile defense

The Chinese and Saudis have signed military deals for missile defense

The Saudis have signed an energy supply deal with Russian Rosneft

The Saudis have entered into agreement with Russian Oil Consortium

TURKEY REACTS TO FAILED US-LED COUP

The NATO forces from US and Europe have left the Incirlik AirForce Base

US heroin from Afghanistan has been diverted from Turkey to Germany and Italy

Turkish Govt seeks coup participants hiding in Germany, under their protection

Russians have resumed the large projects for nuke plants and natgas storage centers

Russians have resumed the Turkish Stream pipeline to connect to Gazprom

Turkey’s neighbor nations are cooperating in the pipeline construction

Turkey signed a big contract with the Russians for missile defense system

GERMANY RESISTS WASHINGTON SANCTIONS

Numerous German companies have worked to create Russian subsidiaries

German corporate executives have registered complaints to government officials

German Govt resists calls by Washington to make bigger NATO contributions

German Govt and companies howl in opposition to USGovt sanctions

United States logged sanctions against German companies on Nord Stream 2 project

JAPAN MAKES MORE RUSSIAN ENERGY TIES

Japan has joined several important non-USD platforms led by China

Japan has been working actively with Russia on LNG projects

Japan has been funding Russian oil pipelines in supply routes

VENEZUELA EXITS USDOLLAR COMPLETELY

Caracas regime will conduct no further energy sales in USD terms

Regime is vulnerable to very large debts to Chinese, at risk of default

Regime signed contract with Russian Rosneft on supply deals

Venezuela requires sweet crude from foreign sources in mixture procedures

The Venezuelans have entered into agreement with Russian Oil Consortium

ENGLAND SEEKS EASTERN FINANCIALS

The British Exit has left the London Centre vulnerable

The London passport has been removed, as London seeks new partnerships

London must recover from approximately 20% lost financial business

Suspicions rise for important financial partnership deals with Chinese Govt

Look for China to confirm greater currency and bond trading at London Hub

Look for London to possibly act as gold source agent for China in oil trade

SYRIA REQUESTS RECONSTRUCTION

United States and Israel continue to secretly seize Leviathan energy deposit claims

Syria continues to work toward completion of Iran Gas Pipeline, earning US anger

US & Israel continue to use their ISIS tool in wrecking the Syrian Economy

US & Israel continue to use their ISIS tool in obstruction of natural gas pipeline

Syria seeks reconstruction funds and management from Russia & China

AUSTRALIA CONTENDS WITH FINANCIAL COLONIZATION

Fifteen years of heavy Chinese investment peaked in mining and port facilities

Australian Govt at edge of financial bankruptcy as result of US-led arms purchases

They attempt to limit further Chinese investment

But Australia has become a Chinese commercial colony

The process involves both investment and residence

SINGAPORE SHIFTS TOWARD EASTERN AXIS

The Singapore Govt has signed onto numerous Chinese-led non-USD platforms

An increasing number of trade deals have come with Beijing

They move slowly away from total US-UK alignment

MEXICO FIGHTS BANKRUPTCY

Mexican Govt in talks with Russian Rosneft for a large scale oil deal

Mexico urgently needs funds for managing budget deficits

Mexico opened up off-shore energy bids for foreign companies

Expect Rosneft to win some of the bids for new discovery concessions

Mexico openly discusses the silver standard for currency in their Congress
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/15/17 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
This is a fascinating post. Much food for thought.

I am a bit confused, though:
Where did the wealth in these gold bunkers originate?

As far as I've heard they originated from different Royal families from many countries that came to agreement to pool their wealth to restore the earth and the nations from the abuse of many years of tyranny and to prevent any ONE nation to dominate the world again.

A historical facts that we need to keep in mind is that the Bible talks about the time that Solomon married many princesses from many different countries. The Bible accounts that Solomon went abroad building mines to extract much gold. So many of these bunkers, like the ones in the Philippines, comes from Solomon's gold mines.

Other bunkers like the ones that many Asian Royal family owns, comes from 4+ thousands of years of trading goods with other nations. China has always been a big producer of luxurious goods that they traded and has accumulated quite a little stash over the years.

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
What was the motive for stashing it all those decades ago?

In the early 1900s wasn't Britain in dominance over the world?
England didn't make life easy for the world either. Before England the world had already experience the hardship rule of other tyrannical empire. So their motives was to stop these tyrants to have the monopoly enslaving the nations and destroying the earth.

Quote:
Who are the rightful owners?

As stated by their representatives, these royal families sees themselves as stewards of this gold not owners. So these bunkers were dedicated to the people in needs and the earth.

Quote:
How will it benefit the general population, if it is released to those rightful owners?

From what I understand from the video, each of these boxes is dedicated for a specific purpose that is somewhat define. So let's say there's a box dedicated to clean those gigantic ocean plastic islands of pollution. This project will creates many jobs for the general population that the money earned will help their communities general economy. I would imagine that there will be follow up to make sure the money is used as it was intended for the purpose defined by those who entrusted that gold or money.

From the video, some boxes are simply used to help poor countries to have a fresh start so to finance their own currencies.

It is still to be seen how these boxes in those bunkers will be used. But I wouldn't be surprise that God will move the nations to used this for a Jubilee. Many economist and financial experts has been talking about a Jubilee as the only solution to solve this big debt mess Mystery Babylon's has put the world into.
Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/15/17 06:52 PM

In gold we trust....
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/16/17 07:46 AM


It sounds too good to be true. Down through the ages most of the ultra rich
haven't exactly been paragons of altruism.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/20/17 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Daryl
Wasn't this "new Global Economic Restructure" supposed to have happened in 2012 and yet here we are in 2017 under the same old Global Economic Structure???

#1 : No one ever said that the Global Economic Structure was going to be completed in 2012. However, it definetely started in 2012.

#2 : I gave the title of this discussion the same title of the video [now a dead link] that opened up this discussion in the OP post. What the title most likely meant to the Chinese Royal Families who created it and produced that video with an incredible message to the Elites Banksters that 2012 was the year that they were going to start a restructuring.

Didn't global economic restructuring start in 2000 B.C.?
What I'm asking is, if it's not "completed", how can one prove or disprove whether it "started" in any specific year? I see the statement as non-disprovable and therefore without much meaning.
Sorry, but economics have been happening for years. It's all different and yet all the same.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/31/17 09:08 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne

It sounds too good to be true. Down through the ages most of the ultra rich
haven't exactly been paragons of altruism.

That is a potential good point. That's why I took the time to reply to it in details while bringing out 2 Types found in the Bible that shows some type of Jubilee or Funds release after a captivity.

But, I just lost my long post just as I was submitting it. I lost it because I wasn't signed in as it had expired. That's too bad as it took several days of work to write it down. I probably won't rewrite it but just give a brief summary of it later. Might take awhile. Sorry.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/01/17 08:29 PM

Have you every tried turning your browser off-line and then hitting the "back" button, and maybe refreshing if that didn't work?
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/08/17 06:38 PM

Sorry to hear about your lost post, Elle. It just happened to me today on Twitter.
Fortunately, that was only about 140 characters, but still frustrating.
I look forward to reading your summary.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/09/17 08:25 PM

My comment : Tx kland and ProdigalSon...I'll get back to your post later.

Last week has been amazing in the amount of news concerning bringing down some of the Elites ( aka the 1%, Mystery Babylon, Kazarian Mafia, the Cabals, etc...). Big news like the Saudi Arabia Purge, the Paradize Papers leak, the arrest of Tony Podesta, and the indictment of Hillary and John Podesta. The arrest of Tony Podesta has not been on Mainstream Media(MSM); however he did resign from his firm -- Podesta Group -- a week ago and others were indicted . If Tony's arrest is TRUE NEWS; then we should eventually hear more about it in the MSM.

The Paradise Papers Leak

The Paradise Papers reveals 13.5 m files. It is the 2nd biggest data leak(1.4 TB) of offshore wealth haven after the Panama Report in 2016 with 2.6 TB.

Paradise Papers leak reveals secrets of the world elite's hidden wealth

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/no...oidApp_New_Post

Below is a quote of what Ben and his sources has to say about all of these events and their timing.

Benjamin Fulford 11-6-17… “Purge of Khazarian mobsters intensifies as Trump is kept safe in Asia”


https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2017/11...sia/#more-65415

Originally Posted By: Benjamin Fulford Nov 6th
There can be no doubt whatsoever that the worldwide purge of the Khazarian mafia now has reached a tipping point of no return, with arrests and purges in the U.S. and Saudi Arabia.

In the Middle East, Iran-linked Hezbollah now effectively rules Lebanon after Saudi puppet Prime Minister Saad Hariri was forced to resign. His resignation was followed by the purge of hundreds of princes, generals, religious leaders, and others by de facto Saudi King Muhammad bin Salman.

This purge was especially important because it cut off one of the last major remaining sources of Bush/Clinton mafia money and power. Many of the princes purged were homosexually bonded with members of the Bush family and their top lieutenants when they studied in the United States, according to confessions of Kay Griggs, wife of a Skull and Bones Society member, and others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp_i1F-1lcA

This is how Pentagon sources described the unfolding crackdown: “The Saudi purge of the Bush-Clinton pedo terror faction—including [Osama Bin Laden’s brother] Bakr bin Laden and anti-Trumper [Prince] Al-Waleed bin Talal—is timed to the Paradise Papers leak, the arrest of Tony Podesta, and the surrender of Hillary Clinton and John Podesta.” Tony Podesta is a powerful Washington lobbyist whose brother John was campaign manager for Hillary Clinton (Rockefeller) and chief of staff for Bill Clinton (Rockefeller). Al-Waleed bought large shareholdings of Rockefeller’s Citibank.

The ramifications of these leaks, arrests, and purges reach out in many directions. Aftershocks, further arrests, and further purges are sure to be felt and seen in the Middle East, Japan, Europe, and the U.S. over the coming days.


In Shocking Purge, Saudi King Arrests Billionaire Prince Bin Talal, Dozens Of Others In Cabinet Crackdown

Nov 4th : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-04...-anti-money-lau
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/12/17 07:02 PM

My comment : The article below gives some history about Saudi Arabia, it's political structure inside the KSA(Kingdome of Saudi Arabia), the 1970 deal they had with the US that gave birth to the Petrodollar while abandoning in 1971 the Bretton Woods system (a gold backed system). Plus the article covers the news showing the KSA turning towards China & Russia.

Jim Willie(Golden Jackass.com) and his partners saw this swing towards China and Russia while leaving old ties & deals with the USA. This prediction was based on all the signs and the many turns the world geopolitic arena has went thru these past 5 years. Jim said, that when this will become public ...that this will mark the end of the Petrodollar.

I agree with the article and many who says that things will be moving even faster now towards many changes. But remember... the world is in a big economic, political, & social mess. I do expect that it will take time to completely restructure and fix an economic system of this magnitude. So if all of these events marks the fall of Mystery Babylon in 2017; then we should see many incredible positive news & changes in 2018 towards the end of freeing the people of the world from the captivity via the debt system that [Mystery=Secret] Babylon has put every Nation under.

There's another Biblical event described in Lev 26:41-42 concerning the laws of tribulation that the Lord said that He will put His people under captivity by foreign nations if they persist in their disobedience. In the book of Judges, it describes the 6 first captivities that God put Israel under. The Babylonian captivity was the last and the 7th captivity that was described with the Statue in Daniel 2. This last captivity lasted in the timeframe of the 4 Beastly empires plus their 2 extensions as described in Daniel and Revelation.

So Lev 26:41-42 says that He will release His people from such captivity only if they repent.

41I also was acting with hostility against them, to bring them into the land of their enemies-- or if their uncircumcised heart becomes humbled so that they then make amends for their iniquity, 42then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and I will remember also My covenant with Isaac, and My covenant with Abraham as well, and I will remember the land.

So I haven't seen this great repentance that God will lead the world into yet! If I understand this text correctly, it should happened before being release from captivity. So let's watch what else the Lord will bring as events and how He will apply this law.

If The Saudi Arabia Situation Doesn't Worry You, You're Not Paying Attention
Nov 12th, 2017

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-11...aying-attention
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/12/17 08:36 PM

Wow! Fascinating article, Elle!
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/14/17 01:57 AM

My comment : Here's Jim Willie easy to read quick summary in a bullet format relating to Saudi Arabia.

Fall of the House of Saud, Finally

Nov 12th, 2017

Quote:
*** COLLAPSE OF THE KINGDOM ***

The Saudi Kingdom will fall, a longstanding Jackass forecast, an inevitable event

The Saudi Kingdom will fall alongside the ruined collapsing Petro-Dollar

The Saudi foundation has been the primary element to entire Petro-Dollar system

This Saudi situation is loaded with intrigue, corruption, cunning, collusion, criminality

The Saudi region will erupt in chaos ruin decay and gross destabilization

The entire Saudi situation is a grand mixture of deep corruption and wreckage

The Saudi Royals will scatter and escape with stolen wealth, an absolute guarantee



*** BLATANT TREACHERY ***

The old guard like Prince al-Waleed are Citigroup investors and Wall Street friends

US will knock off princes to continue the USD, and to prevent deviation toward the East

Iran will knock off princes to stop the Yemen War, and to halt ISIS

Iran has a new vested interest, to avoid the spread of war to Lebanon

The US will deploy its usual terrorism, via Langley and ISIS tool

Iran will use the Yemeni violent anger for a rapacious invasion by the Saudi thugs



*** DANGEROUS DEEDS ***

Head of Saudi National Guard is dead

Crown prince Mohammed bin Salman captured the national media

Significant figure Prince Bandar is under arrest, his wealth frozen

Bandar is the key link in Bush Family for narcotics in the Saudi connection

Entire Bush-Clinton Crime Family is falling apart, in the process of being exposed

http://www.goldseek.com/news/2017/11-12gj/image003.jpg

*** THE CLOWN PRINCE ***

MbS is buying time, but using the Rubin Doctrine in sabotaging tomorrow

Logical to expect the Fall of the House of Saud with the collapse of the Petro-Dollar

Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MbS) conducted power grab for throne

Former crown prince Mohammed bin Nayef has resentment and some power still

Widespread purge of pro-US NeoCons and old guard for USDollar and narco connections

Possibly seen is battle between White Hat Pentagon and Black Hat Langley narcos

The battle will be played out in Saudi Arabia, leading to grotesque destabilization



*** PRINCELY RIVALS & CONFISCATION ***

Cover of cleaning up corruption by Saudi Kingdom is thin veneer for attacks on rivals

At risk of $800 billion in confiscations from rivals

USGovt might make difficult confiscations if friends of US NeoCons and Narcos

These criminal royals will try to impose a confiscation tax on the entire kingdom

Many more thefts and violent events and resignations and purges to come

The entire Fahd half-brother family hates MbS (former king)

The entire Abdullah half-brother family hates MbS (former king)

The entire Nayef half-brother family hates MbS (former crown prince)

MbS earned the wrath of Langley since they promoted favorite MbNayef



*** SAUDI LINKS TO ISIS ***

Saudi has been financing ISIS and supplying ISIS with weapons and soldiers

The Saudi – ISIS connection involves Israeli logistic support & command

The Saudi – ISIS connection involves narcotics funding via the Bush Family

The Saudi – Qatari feud was lost by the Saudis (no friends)

The Saudis have removed their puppet Hariri in Lebanon

Risk of bigger war in Lebanon, pushed by Israeli

The Saudis have no friends in the Gulf region except UAE princes

The Saudis enjoy almost no friendship even among the OPEC nations



*** SAUDIS AS WAR CRIMINALS ***

They are war criminals for the Yemen War

The Saudi Military has killed a million civilians in Yemen

The USGovt helped pay bribes to the United Nations to prevent Saudi citations

The Saudis have avoided having been charged with war crimes

Worse, the Saudis hired a French Stage-4 Lab to distribute cholera to the Yemeni population

Evidence abounds on the dispersed cholera that led to epidemic



*** TROUBLE WITH SAUDI OIL BUSINESS ***

Saudis have half the former oil revenues

Saudis have oversized federal deficits

Saudis have conducted their first bond issuance deals

Saudis formerly rejected OPEC output accords, now Saudi pushes alone for them

Need to finance the war and kingdom federal deficits

US wishes to eliminate the Chinese connection in financial dependence



*** SAUDI DEEP FRAUD WITH ARAMCO ***

US trying to offer support in return for ARAMCO listing

US contradictory since recent USGovt Law permits lawsuits against Saudi nation

USGovt has frozen $100 billion in Saudi assets

ARAMCO true value is less than 30% of the stated $2 trillion (i.e. $2000 billion)

Good work by Western energy analysts to provide embarrassing valuation estimates

Saudi has actual oil reserves less than 30% of what officially stated

Saudis claim no depletion in oil reserves after 55 years of enormous constant output



*** SAUDIS AS TARGETS DOMESTIC & NEIGHBOR ***

Saudi popular resentment is widespread for lack of reforms in society

Saudi popular resentment for appropriation of businesses using extortion

Saudi popular resentment for hoarding and capturing their natural resource treasure

Saudi popular resentment for crackdown of fundamentalist Muslims

Yemen will target Saudi and UAE cities with missiles, like Riyadh and Abu Dhabi



*** SAUDI MAKING FRIENDS IN THE EAST ***

Saudi embracing Russian Rosneft oil consortium for non-USD sales

The Saudis join Iran and Venezuela in the oil consortium

Saudi embracing broad Chinese investment and federal finance (maybe modified)

Saudis will soon be compelled to sell China oil for RMB payments

Saudis are trapped, needed bond issuance to finance debts

Saudis are resorting to confiscations in a deadly game

Saudi Royals have begun to flee the country, escaping with captured wealth



*** STOLEN SAUDI GOLD ***

US & London used UBS & Credit Suisse to steal Arab gold in Swiss bullion banks

It had been stored in the Swiss bullion banks run by the two big Swiss banks

The UBS and Credit Suisse criminal charges were staged for access to their Swiss gold

The Swiss bankers shared in the stolen Arab gold

The last remnants of Saudi gold are stored in Deutsche Bank vaults



*** USGOVT STRIVES TO OBSTRUCT CHINA ***

USGovt wants to obstruct RMB oil sales, using threats against Saudi Royals

USGovt wants to obstruct Chinese funding of deficits and other investments

USGovt encouraged plan to confiscate rival royal bank accounts

Saudi has some Chinese missiles from recent purchases, shown in parades

Saudi has been courted by Russia on military association

Saudi Arabia is moving away from the US Sphere of influence

USGovt is encouraging high risk moves to keep Saudi contained in the US Sphere

http://www.goldseek.com/news/2017/11-12gj/image005.jpg

*** SAUDI TREACHERY ***

The Saudis will become victims of their own brand of Night of Long Knives

These Saudi Royals stole their national treasure for 60 years

These Saudi Royals incite and sponsor terrorism with the collusion of the USGovt

The exposure of Bush-Clinton narcotic lines with the Saudis is next

These Saudi Royals are all goat herders by genetic right, and will revert as such

Saudi Royals have lost all three power centers (families, national guard, clerics)



*** AMERICAN TREACHERY ***

The US will eventually toss the Saudis under the bus

Saudi princes are caught in cross-fire with far more than two sides to strike

Saudi Arabia will shift eastward in alliances, and face collapse with chaos at home



*** MBS PARALLELS PAST & PRESENT ***

It is interesting that another MBS crisis is on the verge of hitting

MBS = mortgage backed securities in 2008 with Lehman Brothers

New MBS = Mohammed bin Salman in 2017 with Saudi collapse

Jackass has insisted on Saudi collapse with palace battles, despite contrary arguments

History repeats in crisis with a rhyme and echo on other side of the globe

Crisis repeats since no reform or remedy was even attempted, only more of the same



*** SAUDIS USEFUL TO THE EASTERN SUPERPOWERS ***

The Saudis are smart enough to realize that Russia & China are next protectors

But Russia & China will toss the Saudis under the bus also

For a while, R&C will find the Saudis as useful in establishing the Eurasian Trade Zone

The Saudis will be offered a key role in the emerging Eurasian Trade Zone

However, the requirement is to embrace trade in RMB and Ruble terms

http://www.goldseek.com/news/2017/11-12gj/image006.jpg

*** SAUDI RUIN PAVES GOLD PATH ***

The fate of the Saudis is sealed, which will pave the way to the Gold Standard

The Saudis will attempt to ride both sides in the Dual Universe of RMB vs USD

In the process, the United States will be forced to launch a New Scheiss Dollar

The Dual Universe of USD vs RMB spheres has begun to develop with momentum

As the RMB rises with gold fortification, the King Dollar will die a slow certain death

Numerous platforms of non-USD nature are built, soon to endure golden gilding
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/27/17 06:51 PM

My comment : Here's an 2013 interview with Kim Dotcom who has been working in building an alternative internet. The current internet structure is design to spy on the people and sensor info that reveals Mystery Babylon's(MB) agenda. Facebook, Google, you-tube, and other major internet companies are all with MB.

I do believe that an alternative internet is needed also.

Kim Dotcom wants to encrypt half of the internet to end government surveillance (FULL RT INTERVIEW)

https://www.rt.com/usa/kim-dotcom-interview-mega-673/

Jan 25, 2013

Originally Posted By: some extracted quotes from link above
“Kim Dotcom… has vowed to build an alternative internet to combat privacy and freedom problems online… Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom says he will help facilitate an unobstructed internet, free from prying eyes, through MegaNet, which will operate without IP addresses. The German entrepreneur is currently resisting extradition to the US from New Zealand over alleged copyright infringement.

““The current corporate internet will be replaced by a better Internet, running on the idle capacity of hundreds of millions of mobile devices,” Dotcom said. “Run by the people for the people. Breaking net-neutrality will only accelerate the adoption of a new network… The development will ensure internet freedom will become a reality,” he added.

“It comes as the US Federal Communications Commission (FCC) plans to kill net neutrality next month… FCC chairman Ajit Pai believes repealing net neutrality will facilitate greater investment and innovation.

“Meanwhile, WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange has sought to persuade the Trump administration to maintain some form of neutrality by informing the US president that his opponents “control most internet companies.””
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/27/17 07:28 PM

My comment : Mainstream Media has hardly covered the Yemen war that has been going on for about 3 years. I've heard that the real number of deaths are not thousands but millions of impoverished Yemen people.

Jim Willie from the GoldenJackass believes that the real purpose for the war is to steal Yemen's oil and gas reserves. The Saudi reserves has been depleted after over 40 years of heavy extraction having dominance of the market with the US Petrodollar agreement that took place in 1970. Of course, the Saudi will not reveal publically that their oil reserve is depleted and gives other reasons for this war.

Now that their are major Saudi leadership purging and their corruption are being addressed, this has a positive effect on potentially ending this terrible Yemen war soon.

Saudi Coalition Crumbles In Yemen: Sudanese Mercenaries On Front Lines, Foreign Officers, Proxies In Revolt

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-26...gn-officers-pro

Nov 26, 2017

Originally Posted By: some extracted quotes from link above
"Most Americans might be forgiven for having no clue what the war in Yemen actually looks like, especially as Western media has spent at least the first two years of the conflict completely ignoring the mass atrocities taking place while white-washing the Saudi coalition's crimes. Unlike wars in Iraq, Libya, and Syria, which received near daily coverage as they were at their most intense, and in which many Americans could at least visualize the battlefield and the actors involved through endless photographs and video from on the ground, Yemen's war has largely been a faceless and nameless conflict as far as major media is concerned.

"Aside from mainstream media endlessly demonstrating its collective ignorance of Middle East dynamics, it is also no secret that the oil and gas monarchies allied to the West are rarely subject to media scrutiny or criticism, something lately demonstrated on an obscene and frighteningly absurd level with Thomas Friedman's fawning and hagiographic interview with Saudi crown prince MBS published in the New York Times.

"First, to quickly review, Saudi airstrikes on already impoverished Yemen, which have killed and maimed tens of thousands of civilians (thousands among those are children according to the UN) and displaced hundreds of thousands, have been enabled by both US intelligence and military hardware. Cholera has recently exploded amidst the appalling war-time conditions, and civilian infrastructure such as hospitals and schools have been bombed by the Saudis. After Shia Houthi rebels overran Yemen’s north in 2014, embattled President Abd-Rabbu Mansour Hadi vowed to “extract Yemen from the claws of Iran” something which he's repeatedly affirmed, having been given international backing from allies in the West, and a major bombing campaign began on March 2015 under the name "Operation Decisive Storm" (in a cheap mirroring of prior US wars in Iraq, the first of which was "Desert Storm").

"Saudi Arabia and its backers fear what they perceive as growing Iranian influence in the region, something grossly exaggerated, and seek to defend at all costs Yemeni forces loyal to President Hadi. The coalition includes Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Egypt, Sudan, and the US and UK, and the Saudi initiated war has also lately received behind the scenes political support from Israel, something recently confirmed by Israeli officials.

"But the Saudi coalition is now in shambles according to a new Middle East Eye investigation. The report highlights some surprising facts long ignored in mainstream media and which give insight into how the Saudi military campaign is likely to end in total failure as "more than two years into a disastrous war, the coalition of ground forces assembled by the Saudis is showing signs of crumbling."

"Below are 5 key takeaways from the full report.

1) Saudi coalition ground forces have a huge contingent of foreign fighters, namely Sudanese troops with UAE officers, suffering the brunt of the battle on the front lines.

2) Sudan's President Omar al-Bashir has been dubbed "president of the mercenaries" for accepting over $2.2 billion from Saudi Arabia and Qatar in order to provide canon fodder for the Saudi ground war in Yemen in the form of thousands of young Sudanese troops, but he's threatening revolt. To escape his untenable position, he is reportedly seeking help from Putin.

3) Saudi-backed Yemeni fighters are increasingly mutinying and fear local mass push back from Yemen's civilian population due to the unpopular bombing campaign.

4) Saudi proxy fighters are at war with each other: an Emirati-backed militia fighting under the Saudi coalition is assassinating other members of the Saudi coalition in what's increasingly an internal coalition civil war.

5) Oman is entering the fray, which will further fragment the Saudi coalition as rivalries for territorial control develop.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/28/17 02:13 AM

My comment: It's about 3 weeks that there are news in the alternative media of many thousands of indictments and arrests within the US government. Last week, we were hearing that the CIA headquarter was raided. And now we hear that thousands in the US Marine Corp has been arrested for corruption. So it seems that not only Saudi Arabia is currently being purge, but also the US government and military.

Here's four articles and a witness about the US Marine scandal :

As ‘Fat Leonard’ scandal grinds on, another Navy fraud case is under the radar

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/as-fat-l...-radar-1.499315

Quote:
SAN DIEGO (Tribune News Service) — More than four years ago in a San Diego hotel, federal investigators arrested Leonard Glenn "Fat Leonard" Francis in what was the opening step in a fraud and bribery scandal that continues to resonate through the Navy.

Francis soon pleaded guilty to a decade-long scheme in which he bribed Navy officers and officials and enlisted their help in defrauding the government out of at least $35 million for his ship servicing company, Glenn Defense Marine Asia.

While the Fat Leonard scandal has torn through the Navy, upending careers of nearly two dozen current and former Navy officers and officials who have pleaded guilty and hundreds more who are under scrutiny, a second case alleging extensive fraud in ship servicing by a different company has cut a far narrower profile….


'Fat Leonard' scandal expands to ensnare more than 60 admirals
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-fat-leonard-navy-scandal-20171106-story.html

My comment: Here is what Benjamin Fulford sources has given him about this.

Huge actionable intelligence haul from Marine raid on CIA HQ
https://benjaminfulford.net/2017/11/27/huge-actionable-intelligence-haul-marine-raid-cia-hq/

Originally Posted By: some extracted quotes
"The Marine raid last week on CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia has yielded a huge haul of actionable intelligence, say Pentagon and other sources. “[U.S. President Donald] Trump is winning BIG, with Clinton-linked pedo rings busted in China as well as the Philippines, Africa, and Germany. Military tribunals and sealed indictments across the USA are approaching 4,000,” according to Pentagon sources.

"The sources say that during the November 18th raid on CIA headquarters, computers and documents were seized and as a result, “some 400 drug facilities were located and the U.S. military began bombing them in Afghanistan on November 19th.” They added that the bombed locations were labelled as the Taliban’s in order “to be politically correct.” In other words, they do not want the world to think there is a civil war going on inside the military-industrial complex.

"Also, one of the largest corruption cases in U.S. military history has led to the investigation of 440 people, including 60 admirals—one third of the Navy’s top brass. The removal of these corrupt officers, mostly stationed in Asia, means the 7th Fleet is soon going to stop protecting the corrupt politicians in Japan, South Korea, and the secret Khazarian colony of North Korea. This will mean that U.S. arrests will be followed by similar arrests in Asia.

https://thehornnews.com/one-third-navy-brass-caught-huge-foreign-bribery-scandal/


My comment: Two years ago I viewed the witness of Kay Griggs, an Ex-marine Colonel's wife, who did expose the corruption within the high ranked US Marine like military assassin squads, drug running, illegal weapon deals and sexual perversion deep within the highest levels Of U.S. military and government.

Kay Griggs expose US Navy Corruption

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyCmUKS2UjM
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/28/17 08:50 PM

My comment : Not only Kim Dotcom is working in building an alternative internet network; but Russia is also. Russia's goal is different tho. Mr. Dotcom system is more elaborate in terms to prevent spying on the people and stop info censorship. Whereas Russia is to build an "independent internet infrastructure for BRICS nations which would continue to work in the event of global internet malfunctions." I think both efforts are needed.

They are aiming that it will be finish by August 1st 2018.

Cutting loose : Russia to launch 'independent internet' for BRICS nations

https://www.sott.net/article/369355-Cutt...r-BRICS-nations

Nov 28th, 2018
Quote:
The Russian Security Council has asked the country's government to develop an independent internet infrastructure for BRICS nations, which would continue to work in the event of global internet malfunctions.

The initiative was discussed at the October meeting of the Security Council, which is Russia's top consultative body on national security. President Vladimir Putin personally set a deadline of August 1, 2018 for the completion of the task, the RBC news agency reported.

While discussing the issue, members of the council noted that "the increased capabilities of western nations to conduct offensive operations in the informational space as well as the increased readiness to exercise these capabilities pose a serious threat to Russia's security."

They decided that the problem should be addressed by creating a separate backup system of Domain Name Servers (DNS), which would not be subject to control by international organizations. This system would be used by countries of the BRICS bloc - Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.

The issue of excessive dependency on global DNS has previously been addressed by Russia. In 2014, the Russian Communications Ministry conducted a major exercise in which it simulated the "switching off" of global internet services and used a Russian backup system to successfully support web operations inside the country.

However, when reporters asked Vladimir Putin's Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov if the country's authorities had been considering disconnecting from the global internet in 2014, Peskov dismissed these allegations as false.

"Russia's disconnection from the global internet is of course out of the question," Peskov told the Interfax news agency. However, the official also emphasized that "recently, a fair share of unpredictability is present in the actions of our partners both in the US and the EU, and we [Russia] must be prepared for any turn of events."

"We all know who the chief administrator of the global internet is. And due to its volatility, we have to think about how to ensure our national security," said Peskov. It's not about disconnecting Russia from the World Wide Web, he added, but about "protecting it from possible external influence."
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/30/17 03:50 AM

My comment : Today mark the 70th anniversary of the Palestinian Resolution. 70 is an important time cycle that relates to the destruction of Old Babylon. As I mentioned in the previous page Post #185494 that God requires repentance("if their uncircumcised heart becomes humbled so that they then make amends for their iniquity" Lev 26:41-42) before He can "remember" the covenant He made with Jacob, Isaac, Abraham and the land. So since we haven't seen this "repentance" yet, then it surely will come sometimes in the near future before we can be released according to the Lord's word expressed in Lev 26. When in the "near furtur"? Nobody knows and the coming event will tell us when.

Let us not forget that the Lord has put Israel into captivity(a judgment based on Lev 26 & Deut 28) to 4 Beast Empires plus two extensions of Rome(the two beasts of Rev 13)because they(Israel) were hostile towards the Lord (Lev 26:40). So the Lord is using all these Beast Kingdoms(Babylon,Medes & Persia, Greece, Rome, RCC, & Mystery Babylon) and this long captivity to bring us(His people -- the believers) to repentance.

We tend (including myself, Stephen Jones, and most Christians) to be in a hurry for God's 2nd coming and lump prophecies into a shorter time frame than what the Lord has in mind. For example, I have been viewing the fall of Babylon and the release of the captives and the fund release as one event after another happening in a span of a year or two. I never studied if in the type(the fall of Old Bablylon) all these 3 events happened all in one year. And let's say it did, it doesn't mean that in the anti-type these 3 events will happened in the same time frame.

Two years ago, after some more studies on my time chart since Adam and comparing Steven's data in his book "Secrets of Time" I did notice a discrepancy of something around 10 to 20 years related to the reign of Israel & Judah before its captivity. I don't remember the number exactly as I'm not home and do not have access to my notes. However, I did acknowledge that my understanding of history and prophecies fulfillment in terms of the different time cycles based on the 490 years Jubilee cycle and its other related cycles is quite limited compare to him.

So below is Stephen Jones prophetic discernment about the 70th Anniversary of the Palestine Resolution. Like all things we read(=food), the Lord requires us to chew our cud(ponder) and allow the Holy Spirit to confirm it(provide a double witness) so it stands on two separate hoofs before it can lawfully be considered as "clean food". In another word, don't swallow it before chewing your cud thoroughly and having confirmation from above.

Nevertheless, we all can learn some prophetic end time elements, like the prophesies of Essau-Edom and how it relates to the Palestinian resolution of 1948, that we might not have in our end-time prophecies and how these historical fulfillment dates applies to Babylon & the Jubilee cycles.

I think below is quite an interesting read and something worth chewing on.

The 70th Anniversary of the Palestinian Resolution

Quote:
Today is the 70th anniversary of the passage of the Palestinian Resolution at the United Nations in 1947. Today marks a very important transition, one of many 70-year cycles since the 1940’s. However, keep in mind that the Israeli state did not declare its independence until May 14, 1948, so we ought to expect some sort of transition from now until May 14, 2018.

It is too soon to say what that transition will involve. It may have a direct connection with the Israeli state, or it may be more subtle and manifest in a way that is related, but not fully evident.

Babylon and Esau-Edom

In the long term, we must also consider a longer transition of six years to 2023-2024. Why? Because as I showed in Secrets of Time, the Israeli state was established on Cursed Time after 8 x 414 years, and this may require 76 years thereafter to reach Blessed Time (414 plus 76 is 490).

Recall that this long-term time cycle began with Israel’s first captivity to the king of Mesopotamia in Judges 3:8. Mesopotamia is the old name for Babylon, as it means “the land between two rivers” (Tigris and Euphrates). This first captivity of 8 years was a prophetic type of 8 cycles of 414 years in a much longer captivity to Babylon.

2 x 414 years after this first captivity ended with the fall of Babylon in 537 B.C. Six more cycles of 414 years ended in 1947-1948. This entire time cycle is tied to Babylon, and we are now approaching the end of it. In 1948 the Church (or “Jacob”) gave the birthright back to Esau in order to fulfill Isaac’s prophetic judgment upon Jacob for taking the birthright from him in an unlawful manner (Genesis 27:40 KJV). Isaac stated there that at some point in history “the dominion” (mandate) would go back to Esau. It was so that Esau could prove himself unworthy as a rebellious son, so that he could be disinherited in a lawful manner.

That is what happened in 1947-1948. The descendants of Esau-Edom were represented in world Jewry since the Edomites (“Idumeans”) had been conquered and forced to convert to Judaism in 125-126 B.C. Since then Edom has not been a nation separate from Jewry. Jewry has thus had to fulfill a dual set of prophecies.

In 1947-1948 the birthright was given back to Esau, because the remnant of Judah that was under the iron yoke of captivity (since 70 A.D.) had not fulfilled the terms in the Law of Tribulation (Leviticus 26) that would allow them to return to the old land. Those terms are clearly spelled out in Leviticus 26:40. 41, 42, 43, showing that they must first acknowledge their hostility toward Yahweh-Yeshua before God would turn their captivity.

40 If they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their forefathers, in their unfaithfulness which they committed against Me, and also in their acting with hostility against Me— 41 I also was acting with hostility against them, to bring them into the land of their enemies— or if their uncircumcised heart becomes humbled so that they then make amends for their iniquity, 42 then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and I will remember also My covenant with Isaac, and My covenant with Abraham as well, and I will remember the land. 43 For the land shall be abandoned by them, and shall make up for its sabbaths, while it is made desolate without them…

The law specifically mentions the condition of “their uncircumcised heart,” which is how Paul described them in Romans 2:28, 29. Repentance is necessary, then, before God remembers His covenant. The hearts of the people must be circumcised, because, as Paul says, outward circumcision of the flesh is praised by men and not by God. Judah means “praise,” and so Paul implies that one’s identity as a Judahite (“Jew”) hinges on heart circumcision, which receives “praise” (or recognition) from God.

The terms of restoration from captivity were understood by the church until the 20th century, when many Christians finally abandoned that view. Up until that time, the mainstream view was that the Jews would repent in 1948 and that this would begin “The Great Tribulation” for the next few years. War broke out for a couple of years, which seemed to prove the view. Of course, the war with the Arab states ended without any sign of mass Jewish conversion.

The church did not understand the prophecies of Esau, nor did they consider how Esau’s descendants had been incorporated into the nation of Judah in 125-126 B.C. Hence, they did not understand what was happening in 1948. They assumed that the Jews were chosen. They did not understand the history of the birthright and the dominion mandate. They did not understand Jacob’s offence when he lied to his father to steal the dominion mandate from Esau. They did not realize that the holiness of God could not forget that offence—and that Jacob’s sin would have to be dealt with at some point in history.

So in 1948 God caused Jacob (“Union Jack”) to give the land to the descendants of Esau-Edom in order to allow Esau time to prove himself unworthy of the birthright. He timed this event to coincide with the end of 8 cycles of 414 years from Judges 3:8 and also 6 cycles of 414 years since the fall of Babylon in Daniel 5:31.

In other words, 1947-1948 was the first potential time when Babylon might have fallen. But more prophecy yet had to be fulfilled in regard to Esau before the Kingdom could be established. We read in the Book of Jasher that Esau killed Nimrod (the king of Babylon), while he was on a hunting expedition, and then took his garments which represented his supposed right to rule the earth. Jasher says that these were the garments that God had given Adam. They had been passed down to Noah, but Ham and Canaan stole those garments in Genesis 9:22. Canaan passed them down to his son, Cush, and Cush gave them to his son, Nimrod. Nimrod used the garments to “prove” that he had been given the divine right to rule, and by this he conquered men.

Esau took those garments for himself, and then he had to flee for his life from Nimrod’s bodyguards. He arrived home exhausted and hungry, selling his birthright to Jacob for some food. Jacob did not show love to his brother, for he should have fed him free of charge in order to fulfill the law of God. Instead, he engaged in “price-gouging,” a practice that may seem smart and ethical to the world, but which is unlawful in the sight of God.

As I said, Babylon might have fallen in 1947-1948. Instead, Esau “killed” Nimrod and usurped his spiritual garments, fulfilling the historical type of what had occurred thousands of years ago. In other words, the Israeli state fulfills the prophetic type of when Esau put on the garments that had been stolen from Noah and which were usurped by Nimrod, who established Babylon to rule the earth apart from God and His laws. The Jewish state, then, is uniquely tied to modern Mystery Babylon as a rival to the genuine Kingdom of God. That is why the Jews did not repent, nor they receive heart circumcision in 1947-1948 as the church had expected.

The Sign of Babylon’s Monetary Replacement

In a sense, this 70-year cycle is another Babylonian captivity, or an extension of it. Today is the first important time marker, dating from 1947, which could be the beginning of the end of the modern captivity. Time will tell, of course, but we ought to expect some sign today or tomorrow that would point toward the fall of Babylon.

That sign has indeed occurred, for Babylon’s life blood is money. I have been watching for signs of the fall of the dollar, and more recently I came to see that the money issued and owned by the central banks of the world is being replaced by a new form of money called cryptocurrencies, led by Bitcoin. Bitcoin was established in January 2009, a few months before the Elisha signs began.

Bitcoin started out at a value of a fraction of a cent. Yesterday it hit $10,000, and today it raced past $11,000. No doubt it will backtrack a bit, as investors take their profits. Nonetheless, the timing of this extraordinary event tells me that the cryptocurrencies are fast replacing the established currencies.

Bitcoin is a decentralized currency, not owned by the Federal Reserve Bank. Unlike Babylonian currencies such as the US dollar, Bitcoin is not a debt note. Hence, the Babylonian banks hate it, because it undermines their money tree. But more and more people and businesses are now accepting various cryptocurrencies as payment for goods and services, having faith in their increasing value even while they lose faith in the decreasing value of the Babylonian currencies.

As of now, the market cap (total value) of the cryptocurrencies is well over $300 billion, as people exchange their Babylonian debt-notes for a new form of debt-free money. This will only increase over time, and since this latest explosion of Bitcoin occurred on November 29, 2017, I suspect that the next date to watch will be May 14, 2018, the 70th anniversary of the Israeli state. During the next 6 months, I will be watching Bitcoin and all of the cryptocurrencies, because it appears that they are major signs of the drying up of Babylon’s money tree that was planted by the Rothschilds in their attempt to usurp world power.

Reaching Blessed Time

Our overall goal is to get past Cursed Time (414) and to reach Blessed Time (490). A cycle of Cursed Time (414 days or years) either results in divine judgment or another cycle of 76 days or years to reach Blessed Time (490). 414 plus 76 equals 490. (See Secrets of Time.)

We have seen many examples in biblical and secular history how Cursed Time cycles end. Most end in divine judgment, because the people or nations fail to repent. But we are now in a time where the Kingdom of God is being established on the ruins of Babylon. Hence, we ought to expect to see the effects of Blessed Time in the midst of this chaos.

The year 1947-1948 was the end of the final 414-year cycle since that first Babylonian captivity in Judges 3:8. So that is not only the start of a 70-year cycle in regard to Esau, but it is also the start of a 76-year cycle toward Blessed Time, ending in 2023-2024.

The overlapping of 70 and 76-year cycles has precedent. Recall that we saw the so-called “Russian Revolution” in November 1917. It was really a Jewish revolution in Russia, for most of the leaders of that revolution were Khazar-Jewish. Their Socialist ideology was from Karl Marx, the son of a Jewish rabbi. His real name was Karl Heinrich Mordecai Levy.

The Soviet Union’s first 256 commissars were shipped there from the Lower East Side of New York City, all but two of them being Jews. This was investigated in 1919 by Senator Overman, whose “Overman Report” are in the government records. I read the testimony in these hearings in my earlier days as a student of history. The bottom line is that Socialism is the ideology of modern Babylon.

Getting back to our main point, however, November 1917 was the start of the “Russian Revolution.” It began a 70-year captivity until Soviet president Gorbachev brought it to an end in a 70th anniversary speech in 1987, when he capitulated. This speech marked the start of the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1990 and the reestablishment of the Russian Republic.

But 1917 was also the date of the Balfour Declaration and (a few weeks later) General Allenby’s capture of Jerusalem toward the end of World War 1. So 76 years later brought us to 1993, which coincided with the 40th Jubilee of the church (since 33 A.D.). 40 x 49 is 1,960 years, which, from 33 A.D. bring us to 1993.

This showed an overlap between the 70-year captivity and the 76-year cycle. Hence, in 1987 we saw a sign of the end of captivity and the collapse of a major Babylonian-ruled nation, followed by a sign of Jubilee and Blessed Time in 1993.

This is probably what we will see again from 2017/2018 to 2023/2024.

We will continue to monitor the progress of the Kingdom during this time, of course, or for as long as God allows.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 11/30/17 04:36 AM

My comment: Here's an interesting tabulation of "4289 Sealed Indictments From ALL 94 Federal Districts" in the past 3 weeks. The norm is apparently 1000 per 12 months. So this may confirm Benjamin Fulford's sources and others has been leaking out these past 3 weeks.

4,289 SEALED Federal Indictments/Cases in All 94 federal districts: HISTORIC!
https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2017/11...ric/#more-65971

Nov 29th, 2017
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/02/17 04:50 PM

A treasure trove of information, Elle!
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/08/17 03:33 AM

I'm glad that you find some value in reading this thread of current news relating to the world economic changes. For me this thread is beneficial as it gives me a placè to blog this news so I'm not going to forget and track down dates & links so I can watch and hopefully come to understand what the Lord is doing. I believe events are fulfillment of prophesies. So I appreciate this forum and everyone's comments and contribution.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/08/17 04:03 AM

My comment : an important sign, history mark, and prophetic fulfillment about the Jewish state, the two Jerusalems, and the great shaking.

Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital
Dec 6th 2017
https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...sraels-capital/

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Today President Donald Trump signed an Executive Order recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of the Israeli state, and he ordered the US embassy to be moved to Jerusalem.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/middleeast/trump-jerusalem-israel-capital.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/world/middleeast/trump-israel-speech-transcript.html

This comes near the 70th anniversary of the Palestinian Resolution on November 29, 1947.

This comes near the 100th anniversary of when General Allenby took Jerusalem on December 9, 1917, the 24th day of the 9th month (Haggai 2:18, 20). There are two prophecies associated with this particular day. Haggai 2:19 says, “from this day on I will bless you.” Haggai 2:21 says also, “I am going to shake the heavens and the earth” and “overthrow the thrones of kingdoms and destroy the power of the kingdoms and of the nations.”

December 6, 2017 falls between the two anniversaries (November 29 and December 9).

Blessing and Shaking

No doubt many Evangelical Christians will rejoice over this recognition of Jerusalem, not realizing its real significance. I do believe that this is a very important act and a very important prophetic date in history. It will indeed be a day of blessing for those who recognize the heavenly Jerusalem (“Sarah”) as their spiritual mother. Those who recognize the earthly Jerusalem (“Hagar”) as their spiritual mother will find themselves among the kingdoms on earth that will be shaken, as Hebrews 12:22, 26-28 tells us.

The Homeland and the Jewish State

Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem marks the end of a long progression of events that began a century ago. We must view his actions in that light. In November 1917 the Balfour Declaration set forth the British Government’s intention to set aside Palestine as a Jewish “homeland” (not a Jewish state). In 1947 the United Nations fulfilled this intention by voting to create a homeland for Jews who wished to move there to live alongside non-Jews.

In 1967 the Israelis forcibly took Jerusalem and annexed it as part of their state, ignoring the fact that they were supposed to be a homeland, not a Jewish state. The Israeli state has thus been in violation of the original UN mandate, and this is why the nations of the world seem to be against them. Evangelicals do not understand that the United Nations don’t like the fact that the Israelis have violated their original mandate by which the nation was created in the first place.

But what about prophecy? How does God view it?

Leaves and Fruit

First, we must understand that the fig tree that Jesus cursed in Matthew 21:19 immediately withered up, but later, in Matthew 24:32, Jesus prophesied that it would bear more leaves at the end of the age. This prophecy came to pass in 1947-1948, because the fig tree was the nation of Judah (or “Jews”).

So it was certainly prophesied that the Jewish state would be re-established near the time of the end. I do not dispute that. My dispute is with those who think that this “fig tree” will bear fruit. Jesus said it will never again bear fruit (Matthew 21:19). Jesus said that when we saw it bring forth more leaves, then we would know that we were near the end (Matthew 24:32).

Leaves are not fruit. Fleshly people cover themselves with fig leaves as a substitute for fruit. The true chosen people bear fruit. Because the tree bore only leaves in Jesus’ day, it was cursed. That situation has repeated itself in our time. The Israeli state has again covered itself with fig leaves in the tradition of Adam and Eve (Genesis 3:7), giving the appearance of health and strength, but in reality only covering their sin without appropriating the blood of Christ to their hearts. The choice is either fruit (of the Spirit) or leaves (self-justification). This is something that most Evangelicals do not seem to comprehend.

The Two Jerusalems

The other big factor is seen in Galatians 4:25, where Paul tells us explicitly that the earthly Jerusalem is not Sarah, but Hagar. Those who adhere to Old Covenant religion are children of Hagar, not children of Sarah. Paul says that they are NOT inheritors of the Kingdom and that they will eventually be “cast out” (Galatians 4:30).

By his recognition of the earthly Jerusalem as the capital of the Israeli state, Donald Trump has now provided the final identifying link between the Old Covenant Israelis and Hagar-Jerusalem. Because of the extraordinary timing of this recognition, it is clear (to me) that this sets into motion the prophecies of Haggai regarding the great shaking of the nations. All fleshly nations will be shaken, including the fleshly Israeli state itself.

Two Types of Ishmaelite

As of today, Donald Trump has recognized legally that the Israeli citizens are the children of Hagar—that is, they are the true Ishmaelites, prophetically speaking. The Arabs, of course, claim to be Ishmaelites on the grounds of their genealogical connection to Ishmael himself. But from the standpoint of prophecy, all Old Covenant Jews, regardless of genealogy, are the children of Hagar, “born according to the flesh” (Galatians 4:29).

The modern conflict between Arabs and Jews has been a dispute over who is the real inheritor of Ishmael’s estate, birthright, and prophetic promises. In this dispute, it appears that the Jews have prevailed, for their claim to Mother Jerusalem is now being recognized by Donald Trump. No doubt they—and Evangelical Christians—will rejoice over this, not realizing that whoever succeeds in claiming Jerusalem will be destroyed with it.

Jerusalem will be cast out, along with her children, Paul says in Galatians 4:30. The Arabs do not understand the prophecy either, so they strongly object to Jerusalem being claimed by the Israelis. If they knew the prophecy, they would see that God was being merciful to them, for by losing Jerusalem as their spiritual mother, they will avoid the judgment that is soon to come when Jeremiah 19:10, 11 is fulfilled.

Personally, I believe that blind eyes will remain closed until the destruction of the city, for if the people could see, they might have opportunity to stop this coming judgment. Only when the city is destroyed and Hagar is cast out will Jews, Muslims, and Christians be able to recognize that the New Jerusalem is the one through whom the promises of God must come. Only when will the children of promise be seen to be the real chosen people. “And you brethren, like Isaac, are children of promise” (Galatians 4:28).

Those chosen ones according to man are the children of Hagar. The chosen ones according to God are the children of Sarah. No one can be an overcomer who has Hagar/Jerusalem as their mother. Those who support Hagar’s claim to the birthright show that they are not among the children of promise.

The Great Shaking

God has revealed to us for many years that we were about to enter into the great time of shaking, where everything that is not of the Kingdom will fall to the ground (Hebrews 12:27). But until now, we only saw relatively minor shakings. It seems to me that Donald Trump’s recognition is probably the final signal to begin this final shaking.

Will we also see a physical shaking in the earth, as in an earthquake? Perhaps. As I wrote months ago, I have had a foreboding inside that we would see a great quake shortly. But will it include a physical quake? That is the question.

There is precedent for this with the Los Angeles earthquake on January 17, 1994, followed by the Kobe, Japan earthquake a year later on January 17, 1995. Will there be a third quake on the same date in 2018? I do not know, but it is certainly a watch date.

Over and beyond any physical earthquakes that may occur, we should consider that the great quake in Haggai and Hebrews is now on a prophetic countdown toward the final fulfillment of Jeremiah 19:10, 11. The prophecy says that the city will be destroyed so completely that it will never again be repaired (rebuilt). It was destroyed many times in the past, but it was always rebuilt. This time, however, I believe it will be the final destruction, simply because we are at the end of the age. The fig tree has brought forth its leaves for 70 years. The Israelis have controlled Jerusalem for 50 years since 1967. Their control is now being recognized by Donald Trump.

As for timing, I think we ought to watch next year’s feast days, particularly Trumpets, September 10, 2018.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/08/17 05:41 AM


De-Dollarization Continues: China, Iran To Eliminate Greenback From Bilateral Trade


Dec 7th 2017

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-05...bilateral-trade

"The more Washington lashes out in anger at those who will not bow to the unipolar world order, the more the rest of the world fights back. As the launch of its Yuan/Gold-settled oil futures looms, China is escalating its de-dollarization scheme further by seeking a bilateral rial-yuan agreement with Iran.

As a reminder, nothing lasts forever...
"

My comment : good news! However should we make a distinction that all beastly kingdoms does not last forever...but The kingdom of God WILL last forever & ever according to Dan 2 & 7.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/10/17 11:34 PM

My comment: More US corrupt organization are now being under investigation. Following proper thorough investigation practices and court procedures can be time consuming but it is very necessary under God's law. I'm happy to see this corruption is being investigated.

Also I'm happy to see Tucker, a FoxNews reporter, being a real reporter and doing a great job by taking on the executive vice president of planned parenting. Check out the interview at the last video in the link.

I've been hearing in the alternative news that there's currently a cleanup in the mainstream media by removing the CIA mockingbird operation. This FoxNews reporting and other reports seems to confirm this undergoing cleanup.

Planned Parenting under Investigation by Justice Department over sale of Fetal Tissue
Dec 07, 2017

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/...tal-tissue.html
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/11/17 12:17 AM

My comment : its been since 2010 that the emerging nations were asking for this while receiving only lip service from Babylon. In 2012, these nations started to construct alternative banking system to bypass Babylons corrupt system. So now that the emerging nations are succeeding in dealing amongst themselve by implementing and using their own new financial systems; we see the US finally complying.

Excellent news potentially confirming the alternative news that theres also a cleanup in the US Treasury department is currently taking place.

US Treasury announces it is now Basel III compliant
https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...-iii-compliant/

Dec 08, 2017

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At last! We are just about the last country to comply with the new banking rules concerning how much cash reserves that banks must retain in case of bank runs and financial problems. Some of you may know the implications of this.

https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/sm0232.aspx

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12/7/2017

Washington – U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven T. Mnuchin issued the following statement on the completion of Basel III Capital Standards:

"The consensus agreed to by the Group of Governors and Heads of Supervision (GHOS) completes nearly seven years of work on the Basel III bank capital standards. The reforms standardize the approach, improve the quality and consistency of bank capital requirements, and will help level the playing field for U.S. firms and businesses operating internationally."
Posted By: Pete P Pete

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/15/17 12:43 AM

Interesting Keep us posted
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/15/17 08:45 AM

Nice to hear from you. I dont beleive our path crossed in the past in other discussions.

For sure I will continue posting the news about this subject as long as im capable. I'm glad you share the same interest. Hope to hear your impressions, thoughts or even dissagreement on things i post on the subject. What I understand is by far not complete and very limited. The purpose of this is to watch these events and try to understand these together.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/20/17 03:30 AM

My comment : good interview explaining China's new alternative financial system which is appealing to most countries including Saudi Arabia.

Many countries are already using this system and Nick Giambruno is hearing that China will make an important announcement before this year will be over making this system official worldwide. This is the third source with good connection to China that says this.

Gold Will Soar… As China Kneecaps the Dollars

http://www.internationalman.com//articles/gold-will-soar-as-china-kneecaps-the-dollar
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/21/17 06:04 AM

My comment : I thought that this simple short article brought about 3 important Biblical economic laws that the Lord establish in His Kingdom that it is worth reflecting on.

BTW I'm not saying that the author, Chris Kanthan, has it all right, but uses a short story to illustrate the short comings of the Federal Reserve act that is based on a debt-based economic system by charging usury. I would like to extent further the author's points by reflecting on God's unerring economic laws found in scriptures.

First lets read the article and reflects on some points this author makes.

How the Fed destroy free market [our economy]

https://www.sott.net/article/371734-How-the-Fed-Destroys-Free-Market

By Chris Kanthan

3 points Kanthan makes :

1."Murika used a simple philosophy: money was created only through labor or natural resources."

This statement has much truth. To further reflect on this truth illustrated by a simple story; lets look how God's express this in His economic kingdom's law : “a homer of barley seed at fifty shekels of silver” (Lev. 27:16).

The Silver-Barley Standard
Originally Posted By: Stephen Jones
When God fixed the price of “a homer of barley seed at fifty shekels of silver,” it established both a silver standard and a barley standard, both derived from the land itself. The silver-barley standard was based upon the production from land, but not upon the land itself. Land belongs to God, and the divine law makes God’s created land inherently priceless. It can only be valued according to its productive ability. Hence, the biblical economy is not built upon a “land standard,” any more than on a gold standard.

Instead, it is built upon barley and silver. Barley is a product of farming the earth, while silver is a product of mining the earth. These two things represent all production from the land, and so they form the silver-barley standard. But it should be kept in mind that the true economic standard in Scripture is based upon ALL production and is not limited to barley and silver. Anything that has value is money or wealth, and this true money may be represented by currency.

The fact that 50 shekels of silver was the equivalent of a homer of barley was meant to establish the relationship between the amount of labor to mine and refine a shekel of silver and the labor needed to produce a homer of barley. It also presumed a non-inflationary economy.

The net effect of God's claim to ownership of all He created is that men cannot speculate on something they do not own. More than any other factor, this establishes a stable economy that is based upon production and labor—true wealth that man owns—rather than speculative wealth which leads to inflationary and deflationary cycles.


2. "The government was also debt-free and always balanced its budget."

Another thought to explore by comparing Mystery Babylon government system inside today's economy versus God's government inside His perfect coming Kingdom when the authority of the earth will be passed from Babylon to the Saints of the Most High.

The article does expand what the Federal reserve act and our current corrupt government is doing. Far from God's kingdom government setup that derives its finances from the return of God's work via thithing the natural resources from the land.

God's government recognizes His ownership of all that He has created
Originally Posted By: Steven Jones
When nations on earth refuse to recognize God as the Creator, their governments assume ownership of that which God has created. The Kingdom of God, on the other hand, recognizes God as the Creator, and so its government recognizes His ownership of all that He has created.

...When God divided up the land of Canaan for the families of each tribe, He removed from most of the land its speculative value. He did this by telling them that they had no right to buy and sell land, except houses built in urban areas (Lev. 25:29). Lev. 25:23, 24 says,

23 The land, moreover, shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine; for you are but aliens and sojourners with Me. 24 Thus for every piece of property, you are to provide for the redemption of the land.

As Creator, God held the right of eminent domain. This means that the people’s privilege of land ownership was conditional upon their obedience to the law of God.

They were living on someone else’s land, and so they did not have unlimited freedom to use the land as they pleased. For the same reason, they were not free to worship other gods or to prefer the laws of those other gods.

For this reason, when Israel failed to recognize God’s right as Creator and Land-owner, He took them to the Divine Court and sold them into servitude to various other nations, according to the provisions of the law. Finally, in the great captivity to Babylon, Jeremiah explains the legal basis of this sale. Jer. 27:5-7 says,

5 I [God] have made the earth, the men and the beasts which are on the face of the earth by My great power and by My outstretched arm, and I will give it to the one who is pleasing in My sight. 6 And now I have given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnez-zar king of Babylon, My servant, and I have given him also the wild animals of the field to serve him. 7 And all the nations shall serve him, and his son, and his grandson . . .

God then commanded the people to submit to the divine ruling and admit their guilt. However, they refused, because they thought God was pleased with their religious rituals in the temple and did not believe that God would judge them. So they refused to believe the prophecies of Jeremiah and only made matters worse for themselves.

The point is that the divine judgments upon nations as well as upon individuals is based upon His rights as the Creator. It is imperative, then, that all men recognize God as Creator and submit to His laws. Man has no right to disagree with God or to legislate His own laws that define morality in a contradictory manner.

The land laws of the Bible are the basic economic laws for a Kingdom nation. Included in God’s land ownership is His ownership of all mineral rights. We see this plainly in Haggai 2:8,

8 The silver is Mine, and the gold is Mine, declares the Lord of hosts.

God’s ownership is also seen in the law of the tithe. Whenever man derives income from God’s labor (creation), he must give God a tenth of it for the support of Kingdom government. This includes farming, ranching, mining, fishing, and lumbering. The tithe is not based upon one’s own labor, but upon God’s desire to see a return on His own labor. The tithe is also an important recognition of God as the Creator and Owner of all that He has created.

God owns the land, and man is His steward. While we may talk of our personal ownership of land, we must keep in mind that we mean ownership under God. Our ownership is limited by God’s rights. We do not own the land per se; we own only our labor—that is, our improvements or that which we have built on God’s land. God owns His own labor, and man owns his own labor.

Every citizen of a Kingdom nation that is ruled by biblical law is supposed to “own” a piece of land as his inheritance. This is clearly seen in God’s command to Joshua to divide the land of Canaan among all the families of Israel and the “mixed multitude” among them who had joined themselves to the Covenant (Ex. 12:38; Num. 11:4; Isaiah 56:6).

The land is not to be taxed or taken away by government, because government did not create the land. Only God Himself can disenfranchise the people as a whole if they continually violate His law.

Land ownership is a basic property right in the Kingdom of God. That is, it is a God-given privilege, because it is granted by God and can be removed by God alone. But in the relationship between government and citizens, land ownership is a right, not a privilege.

Privileges can be revoked by the one granting them. Rights cannot be revoked. Land ownership is a privilege given by God, but a right to be protected by government.

One’s land inheritance is the common man's “golden parachute,” because he always owns something of value and can return to the land if he loses a job in the city.

If he loses the land through poverty or by court order (to pay for a crime/sin), it must always return to him or his heirs in the Year of Jubilee. It is the divine “reset button.” The loss is not permanent as long as the Covenant remains. There is always another day to start over with a clean slate.

In Micah 4 we see a prophecy that the “mountain” (that is, the KINGDOM) of the Lord will be established at some point in the future. Daniel called it the “stone” kingdom (Dan. 2:35). In the coming “stone kingdom” every family will have its own land inheritance as a basic right. So in Micah 4:4 we read,

4 And each of them will sit under his vine and under his fig tree, with no one to make them afraid, for the mouth of the Lord of hosts has spoken.

The impact of this law upon a nation's economy is enormous. The first law, of course, is God’s right to own all that He created—including man. The second law is derived from it—man’s right to inherit land under God and to be its steward. God remains sovereign; man is given authority. As long as man does not usurp God’s sovereignty, he enjoys all privileges of citizenship in the Kingdom of God.


3. "Murika had a bank where people deposited their money. The bank gave them a nice return on those deposits, and it was able to do it because it also loaned the same money to other people at a slightly higher interest rate. "

Here the author choice of words is suggesting the continuation of usury; but a small usury amount. Large or small is still usury by which it is still theft-sin-lawlessnes. Elsewhere in the article Kanthan does recognize that usury is a flaw of the Federal reserve act.

A better word the author could of used is the banks are to charge a fair fee reflecting its labor to offer their services.

The law of Usury
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Biblical usury does not have the same definition as in modern times. Today, “usury” is charging more interest than is allowable by man’s law. Biblical usury is all interest. The basic law against usury is found in Deut. 23:19, 20,


19 You shall not charge interest to your countrymen, interest on money, food, or anything that may be loaned at interest. 20 You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your countryman you shall not charge interest, so that the Lord your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land which you are about to enter to possess.

“Foreigners” in this case refer to non-citizens of the Kingdom—the equivalent of unbelievers. Such people are those who live by a different set of moral laws established by someone other than Jesus Christ. If one was to give them an interest-free loan, they would have no twinge of conscience in loaning it to someone else at interest. A Kingdom citizen has no obligation to provide such a person with an interest-free loan. In such cases, charging interest is optional.

Biblical law makes a distinction between non-Israelites living in Israel and those living elsewhere. Any non-Israelite who came to live in Israel was to be treated by the same laws as all others, even as he was obligated to abide by the laws of the Kingdom. Lev. 25:35-37 makes this clear:


35 Now in case a countryman of yours becomes poor and his means with regard to you falter, then you are to sustain him, like a stranger or a sojourner, that he may live with you. 36 Do not take usurious interest from him, but revere your God, that your country-man may live with you. 37 You shall not give him your silver at interest, nor your food for gain.

In other words, if someone is in need, whether an Israelite or a foreigner, he was to be treated without oppression. Hence, Scripture makes it clear in so many places that the Israelites were not to oppress foreigners.

...
It is truly unfortunate that traditional Jewish thought has so often missed this lesson and has justified the oppression of non-Jews. Even today, this kind of lawless behavior permeates the Israeli state in their treatment of Palestinians. In New Testament times, the Apostle Paul was hated and persecuted by the priests of the synagogue, primarily because he treated non-Jews as equals, rather than as second-class citizens. (See one such story in Acts 13:42-52.) They accused him of being a law-breaker for going against the traditions of the elders, when in fact the Jews had destroyed the law by their traditions (i.e., interpretations of the law).

This lawless attitude of the Jews toward non-Jews was a big factor in later years when the Church rejected the law of God. Instead of casting out the “traditions of men,” by which the Jewish leaders misinterpreted the law, they ignorantly thought that the divine law actually was discriminatory; hence, they discarded the law itself as being inferior to the love that Jesus proclaimed.
...
Most Christians no longer think that usury is a sin. Though the Roman Church borrowed money at interest very early in its history, it always officially considered usury a sin until recently. On June 27, 1942, the Church established the Institute for Works of Religion (the Vatican Bank), funded by the donation of Mussolini in 1929.

Most Protestants and evangelicals had already cast aside the law of God and saw no harm in usury. In fact, many justified it by a unique interpretation of Jesus’ parable in Luke 19. In that parable, the “nobleman” went on a journey and left varying amounts of money in the care of his servants. When he returned, two of the wiser servants had increased the money by trade—that is, lawful business.

However, the third servant had a warped view of his master (who represented Jesus Himself). We read,


20 And another came, saying, “Master, behold your mina [a certain type of money], which I kept put away in a handkerchief; 21 for I was afraid of you, because you are an exacting man; you take up what you did not lay down, and reap what you did not sow.”

In other words, this foolish servant did not really know his master at all, and hence he was afraid to increase the “mina” by lawful trade. Further, he accused his master of being “an exacting man,” who was essentially a THIEF, reaping what he did not sow. So the master judged this servant by his own words:


22 He said to him, ‘By your own words I will judge you, you worthless slave. Did you know [perceive] that I am an exacting man, taking up what I did not lay down, and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Then why did you not put the money in the bank, and having come, I would have collected it with interest?”

In other words, Jesus said, if you really thought that I was an unscrupulous tyrant that reaped where others had sown, then why did you not just put the money in the bank in order to collect interest on the money? That way, I could have increased my wealth by robbery.

Interest on money was the equivalent of reaping where one has not sown.

This parable employs irony. One cannot take this as a command to charge interest on money. In fact, it teaches precisely the opposite. Only an unscrupulous businessman would engage in the practice of usury, because charging interest is theft. It is reaping where one has not sown. It is unlawful profiteering on other people’s labor.

But because the Church discarded the law of God, many have come to sanctify theft in the name of Jesus. Because of this, we allowed the practice of usury in our modern banking system. And hence, God put us into bondage to Mystery Babylon through the Federal Reserve Act, which put the entire nation and the Church itself into captivity.

It is therefore important that we repent of our sin and obey God by faith. If we have faith in God, we will be obedient to Him and accept His ways, rather than accept the ways of our Babylonian masters. When we repent, then God will deliver us from Babylon and establish us in true prosperity under the laws of His Kingdom.


Another thought is the author forsee the continuation of banks to loan the money to others that the depositors puts in their banks. With the blockchain technology that insures transaction decentralisation, security, transparency but yet keeping parties anonymous...this will change banking functionality tremendously. Being decentralize I foresee banking not making loans anymore with the peoples deposits. If their is any loans to be made these are made by the individual or organization that have funds to do so that draw up the contract to the receiver of the loan whether an individual, business, or organization of their choice. In another words the loans are made between two individuals or businesses or organization and not by a centralized bank to another party.

Banks can offer their services to hold these loans following the lenders specification drawed up in the contract for both parties. So that's one type of service these new decentralized banks can offer and they should be paid for their labor. That's how the banks can stay viable without depending on charging small interest rates which still equal to usury and is the fundamental current Babylonian banking way of making money that is totally flawed.

The new economic system needs to stay away from this fundamental flaw of today's setup. I'm sure it will take many years for the nations banking system to get to there. However from hearing Jim Willie at the golden jackass.com I see his main source that is working with China in developing and implementing the new economic system already have this outlook by installing banks that would manage loans or transfers of funds of two nations in their futures bilateral contracts. That's what Jim foresee the main function of the BRICS development banks will be .... in addition to manage the one road one belt developing projects to facilate trading and increase market exchanges between all countries.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/21/17 09:22 AM

My comment : I thought that this simple short article brought about 3 important Biblical economic laws that the Lord establish in His Kingdom that it is worth reflecting on.

BTW I'm not saying that the author, Chris Kanthan, has it all right, but uses a short story to illustrate the short comings of the Federal Reserve act that is based on a debt-based economic system by charging usury. I would like to extent further the author's points by reflecting on God's unerring economic laws found in scriptures.

First lets read the article and reflects on some points this author makes.

How the Fed destroy free market [our economy]

https://www.sott.net/article/371734-How-the-Fed-Destroys-Free-Market

By Chris Kanthan

3 points Kanthan makes :

1."Murika used a simple philosophy: money was created only through labor or natural resources."

This statement has much truth. To further reflect on this truth illustrated by a simple story; lets look how God's express this in His economic kingdom's law : “a homer of barley seed at fifty shekels of silver” (Lev. 27:16).

The Silver-Barley Standard
Originally Posted By: Stephen Jones
When God fixed the price of “a homer of barley seed at fifty shekels of silver,” it established both a silver standard and a barley standard, both derived from the land itself. The silver-barley standard was based upon the production from land, but not upon the land itself. Land belongs to God, and the divine law makes God’s created land inherently priceless. It can only be valued according to its productive ability. Hence, the biblical economy is not built upon a “land standard,” any more than on a gold standard.

Instead, it is built upon barley and silver. Barley is a product of farming the earth, while silver is a product of mining the earth. These two things represent all production from the land, and so they form the silver-barley standard. But it should be kept in mind that the true economic standard in Scripture is based upon ALL production and is not limited to barley and silver. Anything that has value is money or wealth, and this true money may be represented by currency.

The fact that 50 shekels of silver was the equivalent of a homer of barley was meant to establish the relationship between the amount of labor to mine and refine a shekel of silver and the labor needed to produce a homer of barley. It also presumed a non-inflationary economy.

The net effect of God's claim to ownership of all He created is that men cannot speculate on something they do not own. More than any other factor, this establishes a stable economy that is based upon production and labor—true wealth that man owns—rather than speculative wealth which leads to inflationary and deflationary cycles.


2. "The government was also debt-free and always balanced its budget."

Another thought to explore by comparing Mystery Babylon government system inside today's economy versus God's government inside His perfect coming Kingdom when the authority of the earth will be passed from Babylon to the Saints of the Most High.

The article does expand what the Federal reserve act and our current corrupt government is doing. Far from God's kingdom government setup that derives its finances from the return of God's work via thithing the natural resources from the land.

God's government recognizes His ownership of all that He has created
Originally Posted By: Steven Jones
When nations on earth refuse to recognize God as the Creator, their governments assume ownership of that which God has created. The Kingdom of God, on the other hand, recognizes God as the Creator, and so its government recognizes His ownership of all that He has created.

...When God divided up the land of Canaan for the families of each tribe, He removed from most of the land its speculative value. He did this by telling them that they had no right to buy and sell land, except houses built in urban areas (Lev. 25:29). Lev. 25:23, 24 says,

23 The land, moreover, shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine; for you are but aliens and sojourners with Me. 24 Thus for every piece of property, you are to provide for the redemption of the land.

As Creator, God held the right of eminent domain. This means that the people’s privilege of land ownership was conditional upon their obedience to the law of God.

They were living on someone else’s land, and so they did not have unlimited freedom to use the land as they pleased. For the same reason, they were not free to worship other gods or to prefer the laws of those other gods.

For this reason, when Israel failed to recognize God’s right as Creator and Land-owner, He took them to the Divine Court and sold them into servitude to various other nations, according to the provisions of the law. Finally, in the great captivity to Babylon, Jeremiah explains the legal basis of this sale. Jer. 27:5-7 says,

5 I [God] have made the earth, the men and the beasts which are on the face of the earth by My great power and by My outstretched arm, and I will give it to the one who is pleasing in My sight. 6 And now I have given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnez-zar king of Babylon, My servant, and I have given him also the wild animals of the field to serve him. 7 And all the nations shall serve him, and his son, and his grandson . . .

God then commanded the people to submit to the divine ruling and admit their guilt. However, they refused, because they thought God was pleased with their religious rituals in the temple and did not believe that God would judge them. So they refused to believe the prophecies of Jeremiah and only made matters worse for themselves.

The point is that the divine judgments upon nations as well as upon individuals is based upon His rights as the Creator. It is imperative, then, that all men recognize God as Creator and submit to His laws. Man has no right to disagree with God or to legislate His own laws that define morality in a contradictory manner.

The land laws of the Bible are the basic economic laws for a Kingdom nation. Included in God’s land ownership is His ownership of all mineral rights. We see this plainly in Haggai 2:8,

8 The silver is Mine, and the gold is Mine, declares the Lord of hosts.

God’s ownership is also seen in the law of the tithe. Whenever man derives income from God’s labor (creation), he must give God a tenth of it for the support of Kingdom government. This includes farming, ranching, mining, fishing, and lumbering. The tithe is not based upon one’s own labor, but upon God’s desire to see a return on His own labor. The tithe is also an important recognition of God as the Creator and Owner of all that He has created.

God owns the land, and man is His steward. While we may talk of our personal ownership of land, we must keep in mind that we mean ownership under God. Our ownership is limited by God’s rights. We do not own the land per se; we own only our labor—that is, our improvements or that which we have built on God’s land. God owns His own labor, and man owns his own labor.

Every citizen of a Kingdom nation that is ruled by biblical law is supposed to “own” a piece of land as his inheritance. This is clearly seen in God’s command to Joshua to divide the land of Canaan among all the families of Israel and the “mixed multitude” among them who had joined themselves to the Covenant (Ex. 12:38; Num. 11:4; Isaiah 56:6).

The land is not to be taxed or taken away by government, because government did not create the land. Only God Himself can disenfranchise the people as a whole if they continually violate His law.

Land ownership is a basic property right in the Kingdom of God. That is, it is a God-given privilege, because it is granted by God and can be removed by God alone. But in the relationship between government and citizens, land ownership is a right, not a privilege.

Privileges can be revoked by the one granting them. Rights cannot be revoked. Land ownership is a privilege given by God, but a right to be protected by government.

One’s land inheritance is the common man's “golden parachute,” because he always owns something of value and can return to the land if he loses a job in the city.

If he loses the land through poverty or by court order (to pay for a crime/sin), it must always return to him or his heirs in the Year of Jubilee. It is the divine “reset button.” The loss is not permanent as long as the Covenant remains. There is always another day to start over with a clean slate.

In Micah 4 we see a prophecy that the “mountain” (that is, the KINGDOM) of the Lord will be established at some point in the future. Daniel called it the “stone” kingdom (Dan. 2:35). In the coming “stone kingdom” every family will have its own land inheritance as a basic right. So in Micah 4:4 we read,

4 And each of them will sit under his vine and under his fig tree, with no one to make them afraid, for the mouth of the Lord of hosts has spoken.

The impact of this law upon a nation's economy is enormous. The first law, of course, is God’s right to own all that He created—including man. The second law is derived from it—man’s right to inherit land under God and to be its steward. God remains sovereign; man is given authority. As long as man does not usurp God’s sovereignty, he enjoys all privileges of citizenship in the Kingdom of God.


3. "Murika had a bank where people deposited their money. The bank gave them a nice return on those deposits, and it was able to do it because (B) it also loaned the same money to other people at (a) a slightly higher interest rate. "

There's two points in this statement :

(A) Here the author choice of words "a slightly higher interest rate" is suggesting the continuation of usury; but a small usury amount. Large or small is still usury by which it is still theft-sin-lawlessnes. Elsewhere in the article Kanthan does recognize that usury is a flaw of the Federal reserve act.

A better words the author could of used is the banks are to charge a fair fee reflecting its labor to offer their services.

The law of Usury
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Biblical usury does not have the same definition as in modern times. Today, “usury” is charging more interest than is allowable by man’s law. Biblical usury is all interest. The basic law against usury is found in Deut. 23:19, 20,


19 You shall not charge interest to your countrymen, interest on money, food, or anything that may be loaned at interest. 20 You may charge interest to a foreigner, but to your countryman you shall not charge interest, so that the Lord your God may bless you in all that you undertake in the land which you are about to enter to possess.

“Foreigners” in this case refer to non-citizens of the Kingdom—the equivalent of unbelievers. Such people are those who live by a different set of moral laws established by someone other than Jesus Christ. If one was to give them an interest-free loan, they would have no twinge of conscience in loaning it to someone else at interest. A Kingdom citizen has no obligation to provide such a person with an interest-free loan. In such cases, charging interest is optional.

Biblical law makes a distinction between non-Israelites living in Israel and those living elsewhere. Any non-Israelite who came to live in Israel was to be treated by the same laws as all others, even as he was obligated to abide by the laws of the Kingdom. Lev. 25:35-37 makes this clear:


35 Now in case a countryman of yours becomes poor and his means with regard to you falter, then you are to sustain him, like a stranger or a sojourner, that he may live with you. 36 Do not take usurious interest from him, but revere your God, that your country-man may live with you. 37 You shall not give him your silver at interest, nor your food for gain.

In other words, if someone is in need, whether an Israelite or a foreigner, he was to be treated without oppression. Hence, Scripture makes it clear in so many places that the Israelites were not to oppress foreigners.

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It is truly unfortunate that traditional Jewish thought has so often missed this lesson and has justified the oppression of non-Jews. Even today, this kind of lawless behavior permeates the Israeli state in their treatment of Palestinians. In New Testament times, the Apostle Paul was hated and persecuted by the priests of the synagogue, primarily because he treated non-Jews as equals, rather than as second-class citizens. (See one such story in Acts 13:42-52.) They accused him of being a law-breaker for going against the traditions of the elders, when in fact the Jews had destroyed the law by their traditions (i.e., interpretations of the law).

This lawless attitude of the Jews toward non-Jews was a big factor in later years when the Church rejected the law of God. Instead of casting out the “traditions of men,” by which the Jewish leaders misinterpreted the law, they ignorantly thought that the divine law actually was discriminatory; hence, they discarded the law itself as being inferior to the love that Jesus proclaimed.
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Most Christians no longer think that usury is a sin. Though the Roman Church borrowed money at interest very early in its history, it always officially considered usury a sin until recently. On June 27, 1942, the Church established the Institute for Works of Religion (the Vatican Bank), funded by the donation of Mussolini in 1929.

Most Protestants and evangelicals had already cast aside the law of God and saw no harm in usury. In fact, many justified it by a unique interpretation of Jesus’ parable in Luke 19. In that parable, the “nobleman” went on a journey and left varying amounts of money in the care of his servants. When he returned, two of the wiser servants had increased the money by trade—that is, lawful business.

However, the third servant had a warped view of his master (who represented Jesus Himself). We read,


20 And another came, saying, “Master, behold your mina [a certain type of money], which I kept put away in a handkerchief; 21 for I was afraid of you, because you are an exacting man; you take up what you did not lay down, and reap what you did not sow.”

In other words, this foolish servant did not really know his master at all, and hence he was afraid to increase the “mina” by lawful trade. Further, he accused his master of being “an exacting man,” who was essentially a THIEF, reaping what he did not sow. So the master judged this servant by his own words:


22 He said to him, ‘By your own words I will judge you, you worthless slave. Did you know [perceive] that I am an exacting man, taking up what I did not lay down, and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Then why did you not put the money in the bank, and having come, I would have collected it with interest?”

In other words, Jesus said, if you really thought that I was an unscrupulous tyrant that reaped where others had sown, then why did you not just put the money in the bank in order to collect interest on the money? That way, I could have increased my wealth by robbery.

Interest on money was the equivalent of reaping where one has not sown.

This parable employs irony. One cannot take this as a command to charge interest on money. In fact, it teaches precisely the opposite. Only an unscrupulous businessman would engage in the practice of usury, because charging interest is theft. It is reaping where one has not sown. It is unlawful profiteering on other people’s labor.

But because the Church discarded the law of God, many have come to sanctify theft in the name of Jesus. Because of this, we allowed the practice of usury in our modern banking system. And hence, God put us into bondage to Mystery Babylon through the Federal Reserve Act, which put the entire nation and the Church itself into captivity.

It is therefore important that we repent of our sin and obey God by faith. If we have faith in God, we will be obedient to Him and accept His ways, rather than accept the ways of our Babylonian masters. When we repent, then God will deliver us from Babylon and establish us in true prosperity under the laws of His Kingdom.


(B) Another thought is the author forsee the continuation of banks to loan the money to others that the depositors puts in their banks. With the blockchain technology that insures transaction decentralisation, security, transparency but yet keeping parties anonymous...this will change banking functionality tremendously.

Once becoming decentralize, I foresee banking not making loans anymore with the peoples deposits. Loans to be made I think they are to be made by the individual or organization that have funds to do so ...that draws up the contract to the receiver of the loan whether it be an individual, business, or organization of their choice. In another words the loans are made between two individuals or businesses or organization and not by a centralized bank to another party.

Banks can offer their services to hold these loans following the lenders specification drawed up in the contract for both parties. So that's one type of service these new decentralized banks can offer and they should be paid for their labor via bank fees. That's how the banks can stay viable without depending on charging small interest rates which still equal to usury and is the fundamental current Babylonian banking way of making money that is totally flawed.

The new economic system needs to stay away from this fundamental flaw of today's setup. I'm sure it will take many years for this banking transformation occurs inside the nations banking system. However at the international levels where trade, loans, or developing projects between two countries are made; this is already taking form. I got that from hearing Jim Willie at the golden jackass.com. Jim's main info source who is working with China in developing and implementing the new economic system already have this outlook. They hint to by installing banks that would manage trade loans, contracts,or transfers of funds between two nations. That's what Jim foresee the main function of the BRICS development banks will be .... in addition the BRICS developing could manage this humongous world wide projects like the one road one belt developing projects that would creates jobs, facilate trading and increase market exchanges between all countries. So first it seems most of the restructures effort will mainly happen at the international level and later focus's more in transforming banks within the countries dealing with domestic affairs.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/22/17 11:20 PM

My comment : FBI caught doing pergury multiple times in the Bundy court case.

Bundy Trial Ends In A Mistrial For A Very Expected Reason

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017/12/21/bundy-trial-ends-mistrial-expected-reason/
Dec 21st 2017
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The trial of Nevada rancher and leader of the Sagebrush Rebellion, Cliven Bundy, his two sons and a co-defendant ended yesterday in a mistrial. Why? Because the government had lied out of its ass to the judge and hidden evidence that would have significantly aided the defense. In other words, in a legal system that has reframed “adversarial” to mean “win at any cost” the prosecutors decided to put Bundy away and they decided that a little perjury was no big deal.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/24/17 05:25 PM

My comment : Pakistan is boldly making plubic their plan to dump the US dollar.

Their reason being "it would "benefit" Pakistan.". That will be the same reason other nations is joining with China multi-nationalist economic restructure. Their is no benefit for anyone to use the petro-dollars for that only benefit US hegemony and globalism.

Pakistan Plans Replacing Dollar With Yuan In Trade With China

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-21/pakistan-plans-replacing-dollar-yuan-trade-china

Dec 21st 2017

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..."We are examining the use of yuan instead of the US dollar for trade between the two countries," Iqbal said, adding that the use of yuan was not against the interest of Pakistan. Rather, it would "benefit" Pakistan.

It would also show that world that when it comes to Asia, the "superpower" of significance is no longer the US. And so, as China's influence grows, the long-term plan highlighted key cooperation areas between the neighboring states including road and rail connections, information network infrastructure, energy, trade and industrial parks, agriculture, poverty alleviation and tourism.

The CPEC (China-Pakistan Economic Corridor) plan marks the first time the two countries have said how long they plan to work together on the project, taking the economic partnership to at least 2030. China has already committed to investing $57 billion in Pakistan to finance CPEC as part of Beijing’s “Belt and Road” initiative to build a new Silk Road of land and maritime trade routes across more than 60 countries in Asia, Europe and Africa.

...The two nations also agreed to establish and improve cross-border credit system and financial services, strengthen currency swap arrangements as well as establish a bilateral payment and settlement system.... in yuan that is, not dollars.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/24/17 05:43 PM

My comment : Many in Israel are not blinded by the Zionist agenda. Notice the name of the protestation street location.

Our country, not Netanyahu’s’: Thousands join anti-PM rallies across Israel

https://www.rt.com/news/414092-israel-netanyahu-protest-corruption/

Dec 24 2017

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Thousands of people across Israel have joined marches against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for the fourth consecutive week, demanding his resignation following several corruption allegations.

Protesters gathered on Tel Aviv’s Rothschild Boulevardon Saturday, carrying signs reading “big business, politicians, and the underworld” and “go home, corrupt ones!”

“I came to be like everybody, against the corruption, and against the government and against the liars and against all the stories you can hear about,” a female protester told Ruptly.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/24/17 10:28 PM

Time for the 3rd attempt to reply to this.

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Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
This is a fascinating post. Much food for thought.

I am a bit confused, though:
Where did the wealth in these gold bunkers originate?

As far as I've heard they originated from different Royal families from many countries that came to agreement to pool their wealth to restore the earth and the nations from the abuse of many years of tyranny and to prevent any ONE nation to dominate the world again.

A historical facts that we need to keep in mind is that the Bible talks about the time that Solomon married many princesses from many different countries. The Bible accounts that Solomon went abroad building mines to extract much gold. So many of these bunkers, like the ones in the Philippines, comes from Solomon's gold mines.

Other bunkers like the ones that many Asian Royal family owns, comes from 4+ thousands of years of trading goods with other nations. China has always been a big producer of luxurious goods that they traded and has accumulated quite a little stash over the years.

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
What was the motive for stashing it all those decades ago?

In the early 1900s wasn't Britain in dominance over the world?
England didn't make life easy for the world either. Before England the world had already experience the hardship rule of other tyrannical empire. So their motives was to stop these tyrants to have the monopoly enslaving the nations and destroying the earth.

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Who are the rightful owners?

As stated by their representatives, these royal families sees themselves as stewards of this gold not owners. So these bunkers were dedicated to the people in needs and the earth.

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How will it benefit the general population, if it is released to those rightful owners?

From what I understand from the video, each of these boxes is dedicated for a specific purpose that is somewhat define. So let's say there's a box dedicated to clean those gigantic ocean plastic islands of pollution. This project will creates many jobs for the general population that the money earned will help their communities general economy. I would imagine that there will be follow up to make sure the money is used as it was intended for the purpose defined by those who entrusted that gold or money.

From the video, some boxes are simply used to help poor countries to have a fresh start so to finance their own currencies.

It is still to be seen how these boxes in those bunkers will be used. But I wouldn't be surprise that God will move the nations to used this for a Jubilee. Many economist and financial experts has been talking about a Jubilee as the only solution to solve this big debt mess Mystery Babylon's has put the world into.


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/24/17 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne

It sounds too good to be true. Down through the ages most of the ultra rich haven't exactly been paragons of altruism.


I agree with you. Man on its own wouldn't share their wealth; however God can move man's and Kings heart especially to fulfill the requirement of His law by changing events around them without them knowing what they are doing.

King James Bible
The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.

Two precedents (aka-patterns or types) of great wealth giving to the captives at their release

We have two precedents where a release of much funds happened during the release of slaves from a captivity.

1. At the Exodus : Israel was released with great wealth of Egypt.

King James Bible Ex 3:21
And I will give this people favour in the sight of the Egyptians: it shall come to pass, that, when ye go, ye shall not go empty: see also Ex 12:35,36.

2. At the Babylonian captivity release : Here we have God moving the heart of Cyrus to fund the reconstruction of Jerusalem and the temple. Not only did Cyrus fund the nation of Judah but in the Cyrus cylinder that accounts for this events; it is written that he funded the reconstruction of many nations cities and temple.

Cyrus was one of the Kings of the East that conquered Babylon. He set up the pattern of today's release from Mystery Babylon by linking the old Babylon pattern to Mystery[secret] Babylon in Rev 16:12

King James Bible Rev 16:12
And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

The pattern is the same but the roles of the Kings of the East is played by different actors who are China and Russia as we can see undeniable events unfolding since 2010 showing that God is using China and Russia to release us and the world from the last BEAST empire before transferring the dominion of the Kingdom of the earth to the Saints of the most high (Dan 2 & 7).

Fulfilling the law of the release of captives

These two precedent fulfills the law that states slaves are not to be release empty-handed. Whenever the Lord does something He always acts and fulfilles His own law of righteousness. He never acts outside of His law which is also prophetic in nature.

King James Bible Deut 15:13
And when thou sendest him out free from thee, thou shalt not let him go away empty:
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/25/17 02:02 AM

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I wanted to respond to this also.

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Daryl
Wasn't this "new Global Economic Restructure" supposed to have happened in 2012 and yet here we are in 2017 under the same old Global Economic Structure???

#1 : No one ever said that the Global Economic Structure was going to be completed in 2012. However, it definetely started in 2012.

#2 : I gave the title of this discussion the same title of the video [now a dead link] that opened up this discussion in the OP post. What the title most likely meant to the Chinese Royal Families who created it and produced that video with an incredible message to the Elites Banksters that 2012 was the year that they were going to start a restructuring.

Originally Posted By: kland

Didn't global economic restructuring start in 2000 B.C.?
What I'm asking is, if it's not "completed", how can one prove or disprove whether it "started" in any specific year? I see the statement as non-disprovable and therefore without much meaning.
Sorry, but economics have been happening for years. It's all different and yet all the same.


I don't know what you mean with a global restructure starting in 2000 BC; however I'll do an attempt to answer what I understand you saying.

It is true that their always been some economic restructure thru out the ages. What makes the year 2010 standout as a beginning it is the rise of today's King of the East by the Lord so they can do His bidding of conquering Mystery[secret] Babylon as per Rev 16:12 quoted in the post above.

The last BEAST Empire led by the Rothschild is a financial BEAST who put the world into debt (=slavery) via the usage of usury and merchant laws (Admiralty laws or laws of the sea that overrides the laws of the land thus countries losing their sovereignty without them knowing it).

The last BEAST of Rev 13 is different from any others in nature because it is an ECONOMIC BEAST where his mark and life stream is CURRENCIES by which this last Beast controls.

But was 2010 really the first start of the overthrow of Mystery Babylon?

No! Because all judgments first start at the supreme Court in heaven where God sets the case to be adress on earth and its timing. Then the manifestation of it happens on earth at some years later based on some related prophetic time cycle that fulfills the law related to this judgment.

Then all heavenly court cases that is initiated by God needs to be confirm by His Amen people on earth. God needs at least two witnesses to establish anything in His court...one from heaven the other from the earth.

King James Bible Deut 31:28

Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them.. Sea also Deut 4:26; 17:16; 19:15; 30:19; Job 20:27; Mat 18:16; etc...

The overthrow of Babylon actually started in the heavenly court in 1993 by moving a small group of Christian who heard the case from above and became the Lord's earthly witnesses of it. See the account of this spiritual warfare recorded by Stephen Jones in the book The Wars of the Lord chapter 10.
https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teac...warfare-begins/

This wordly level of spiritual warfare is something I struggle to understand as it is something very unfamiliar to SDAs. When we talk about spiritual warfare mainly at an individual level.

God's judgment proceedings from heavens can effect three levels : an individual, a nation, or the whole world.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/25/17 06:59 PM

My comment : Wow!!! Could the mass-arrest of the Cabal Elites be finally here??? Lets keep watch on the news to see if it will further confirms what the hints we've been seeing.

It's been what, 5 weeks now, we've been hearing from the alternative news the leaks by Q -- an anonymous high level white hat working somewhere in the US government communicating via a governmental discussion platform that insure their identity is hidden so they won't be killed-- a lot of information of what is going on behind the scenes like the thousands of recent issued indictments, the Saudi Arabia and US Marine cleanup, ...

At first no one didn't know what to think about this new character and his leaks, but they saw some validity and what he leaked came about shortly in the news. He communicates the info in form of a series of questions to stimulate further investigation of these topics in the news...thus his name being Q.

Anyway Q has been acknowledge by some white hats workers. An example is in the recent Roy Potter report below.
[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/_n-1hKGsYqU[/video]

Full report found here : Roy Potter 12-20-17… “Did Trump Signal Defeat of Soros? Purple Ties and Two Hands To Swallow Water”‘

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2017/12...wallow-water-2/

In addition to Roy Potter cautioning us to not be overly obcess with all of Q leaks... His second half of the report is dedicated to Trump recent coded message to the Elites.

Quoting Benjamin Fulford "Trump wears purple when unveiling his national security strategy on December 18th in a victory lap over the Soros/Hillary purple revolution, and drinks water with both hands to simulate handcuffs."

Benjamin Fulford 12-25-17… “Merry Christmas: The 13 “Illuminati” bloodline families sue for peace”

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2017/12...-sue-for-peace/
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Peace on earth and goodwill to all (and not just men, but all life forms) is looking like a realistic goal for 2018 now that the 13 “Illuminati” * bloodline families, seeing their ancient rule of planet Earth collapsing, are suing for peace. Last week a representative of the G7 (Germany, the U.K., the corporate U.S., Japan, Italy, France, and Canada) met with a representative of the White Dragon Society (WDS) to discuss peace terms, according to a WDS member who was present at the meeting. The G7, of course, is the political front for the 13 bloodline families. There can be no doubt that this meeting was made possible by people inside the military-industrial complex acting in the spirit of Jesus Christ, and for this we wish them all “a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.”

The bloodline offer to negotiate peace is directly connected to the state of emergency that was declared last week by USA President Donald Trump. If you have not seen it yet, please read the historic document in the link below.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/text-letter-president-congress-united-states-6/

“After Hanukkah,Trump declared a state of emergency and signed an executive order on December 20th freezing the assets of those accused of human rights abuses and corruption, a catch-all to bankrupt the Bushes, Clintons, Soros, Obama, the Cabal, and the global Jewish mafia,” was how a Pentagon source summed up the situation.

“The national emergency allows Trump to seize assets and unleash the military to carry out mass arrests and adjudicate via military tribunals, effectively imposing martial law,” the source continues.

The Pentagon source also sent a copy of this photograph with the explanation, “Trump wears purple when unveiling his national security strategy on December 18th in a victory lap over the Soros/Hillary purple revolution, and drinks water with both hands to simulate handcuffs.”

Clearly reacting to this situation, the representative of the bloodlines set the meeting for December 23rd, the birthday of the Japanese Emperor, and claimed to be a representative of the Imperial family as well as the G7. The representative, who acted as if he was negotiating a surrender, said the bloodlines want to keep existing nation-states and institutions as they are, but…


The timing is right as 2017 is the end of "7 times"(7 x 360 years = 2520 years from the date Babylon took Israel captive) allocated for all these Beast kingdoms to have dominion on earth. Their time is up and they didnt produce the good fruits of the kingdom...thus giving legal grown for the Lord to bring judgment on the whore and the beast she rides in Rev 17-20.

See the following post about the " 7 times" captivity timeline and its details that ends in 2017.

http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forum...1945#Post161945
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/26/17 07:22 PM

My comment : I just wanted to add a second confirmation of Q and the potential mass Cabal Bankters arrest.

It is still to be seen how public and visible this operation will be reported on the main stream media.

“Q Confirmation By SecDef Mattis”

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2017/12...related-videos/

Dec 25th 2017

https://youtu.be/oVAepwywNPw
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/26/17 07:37 PM

My comment : I think this is a good interview with Jim Willie of the goldenjackass.com and editor of the Hat Trick letter reports of the latest global economic events that is playing out.

I really appreaciate the health comments at the end of the interview.

INTERVIEW WITH CJ OF ROGUE MONEY

Dec 22nd 2017

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u-rCfVDN9FU

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December 22nd: topics covered include the Petro-Yuan launch out of Shanghai with vast implications like completion of the RMB-Oil-Gold triangle and foundation for the Gold Trade Note used in crude oil market, the gradual displacement of the Petro-Dollar and the phased end to the Dollar global reserve currency status, implications toward pressures to launch the New Scheiss Dollar currency to guarantee uninterrupted supply chains to the USEconomy, the vast influence of Russia & China in the geopolitical events like Syria and Saudi Arabia and Iran in neutralizing (even surpassing) the US power game, the financial sector outlook for the new year 2018 with many non-USD platforms finally coming into place which will force significant changes, some comments on the EU disintegration with focal points in Italy (broken banking system) and Germany (objection to sanctions), and the attacks on humanity with respect to health regarding obesity/ diabetes as well as risks from laced vaccines and chemtrails and GMO foods
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/26/17 10:01 PM

My comment : Steven Jones blogged today on :

-what 2017 stand in prophecie in term of the end of the current Babylonian captivity

-comment on Benjamin Dec 25th weekly report with a link of a book "the bloodlines of the illuminati" to offer additional information of what Benjamin Fulford is referring to.

-Trump's recent executive order declaring a “national emergency,” freezing the assets of those accused of human rights abuses and corruption.

-the Clintons, Bush, Soros, etc...

-using doubles

-his impression of "Q"

The new American Revolution

Dec 26th 2017

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/12-2017/the-new-american-revolution/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/29/17 03:57 AM

My comment : More on Q and catching Soros in the action of rigging the election.

The biggest sting operation in history

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...ion-in-history/

Dec 27th 2017

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And I will send hornets before thee, which shall drive out the Hivite, the Canaanite, and the Hittite, from before thee--Exodus 23:28 (KJV).

The recent election in Alabama, according to Q, was a “sting” operation. Doug Jones was meant to defeat Roy Moore in the election, due to the rigging of the voting machines. The voting machines are “owned” by George Soros, and computers were installed to replace paper ballots, because computers can easily be hacked to hide true election results. It appears that this election was designed to catch the him in election fraud.

The day before the Alabama election, Q posted this:

“The Storm is coming to Alabama. Tomorrow night. Doug Jones will be declared the winner of the U.S. Senate Special Election. He will have more votes than Roy Moore. The multiple fraudulent voting techniques employed to achieve this result are being allowed to occur. They are being documented. The subsequent ‘investigation’ will reveal the entire Democrat Machine. This was put into play long ago. Y’all are soon to find out the true reason Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III was installed as the U.S. Attorney General.”


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It appears that the sting operation was successful. After the election. Q said,

“They knew George Soros was going to mess with the numbers. This was the plan. A VERY SPECIAL PLACE. What would be the penalty for stealing an election?....

“Have faith. These people are stupid!”

Soros himself stopped tweeting on November 26. He has never gone more than 10 days without tweeting a message. It has now been 32 days and counting. Is he in hiding? Has he been arrested? Was his cell phone taken away?

Back in 2010 I posted a video of testimony from the man who was asked to write a computer program to rig the voting machines, supposedly to help prevent voter fraud. However, he discovered later that the real purpose was to actually rig the voting machines!

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...-2000-election/

The year 2018 is going to be an interesting year, as we watch the hornets sting the Babylonians.

Run, Baby Lonia, Run!
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/29/17 04:03 AM

Israeli Earthquake Alert: Netanyahu soon to be indicted]

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...to-be-indicted/
Dec 27th 2017

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The investigation is nearing completion, and it is widely expected that Israeli PM Netanyahu’s political career will soon end.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Former-...attering-519970

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Police recommendations on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s corruption cases are expected to be announced in the coming weeks, and they will be “earth-shattering,” according to Lior Chorev, a former external adviser to the Israel Police.

Speaking at a conference in Eilat last weekend, he said once the recommendations to indict Netanyahu are announced, the Knesset will call to hold early elections – possibly as soon as next May.

Chorev said the recommendations will bear “a lot of information that we didn’t know – and it will cause an earthquake here.”


Chorev’s wording is interesting in light of Haggai 2:6, 7 and Hebrews 12:26-28. God’s end-time “earthquake” removes all things that can be shaken.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/30/17 10:44 PM

My comment : Very good list of all the new financials vehicles that China has set up since 2012 to by-pass the Federal Reserve petro-dollar.

The Integrated Non-USD Platforms
by Jim Willie

Dec 26th 2017

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The many new integrated non-USD platforms devised and constructed by China finally have critical mass. They threaten the King Dollar as global currency reserve. Clearly, the USDollar cannot be displaced in trade and banking without a viable replacement for widespread daily usage. Two years ago, critics could not point to a viable integrated system outside the USD realm. Now they can. The integration of commercial, construction, financial, transaction, investment, and even security systems can finally be described as having critical mass in displacing the USDollar. The King Dollar faces competition of a very real nature. The Jackass has promoted a major theme in the last several months, that of the Dual Universe. At first the USGovt will admit that it cannot fight the non-USD movement globally. To do so with forceful means would involve sanctions against multiple nations, and a war with both Russia & China. Their value together is formidable in halting the financial battles from becoming a global war. The United States prefers to invade and destroy indefensible nations like Libya, Iraq, Ukraine, Syria, and by proxy Yemen. The USMilitary appears formidable against undeveloped nations, seeking to destroy their infra-structure and their entire economies, in pursuit of the common Langley theme of destabilization. In the process, the USMilitary since the Korean War has killed 25 million civilians, a figure receiving increased publicity. The Eastern nations and the opponents to US financial hegemony will not tolerate the abuse any longer. They have been organizing on a massive scale in the last several years. Ironically, the absent stability can be seen in the United States after coming full circle. The deep division of good versus evil, of honest versus corrupt, of renewed development versus endless war, has come to light front and center within numerous important USGovt offices and agencies.

The shape of the US nation will change with the loss of the USDollar’s status as global currency reserve. The starting point for the global resistance against the King Dollar was 9/11 and the onset of the War on Terror. It has been more aptly described as a war of terror waged by the USGovt as a smokescreen for global narcotics monopoly and tighter control of USD movements. Then later, following the Lehman failure (killjob by JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs) and the installation of the Zero Interest Rate Policy and Quantitative Easing as fixed monetary policies, the community of nations has been objecting fiercely. The zero bound on rates greatly distorted all asset valuations and financial markets. The hyper monetary inflation works to destroy capital in recognized steps. These (ZIRP & QE) are last ditch desperation policies designed to enable much larger liquidity for the insolvent banking structures. Without them, the big US banks would suffer failure. They also provide cover for the amplified relief efforts directed at the multi-$trillion derivative mountain. In no way, can the global financial system tolerate unbridled monetary inflation which undermines the global banking reserves.

The Eastern nations have been organizing to end the USDollar abuse, which has suffocated economic growth and financed regional wars with motive to sustain the USDollar dominance. Their many non-USD platforms finally can boast at having critical mass, and finally are integrated with the most important link of all. The Oil-RMB-Gold triangle is the death warrant to the USDollar, and the Gold Trade Note will be the dagger in its heart.

One Belt One Road Cornucopia

It is also known as the Belt & Road Initiative (BRI). China has been promoting infra-structure development, but with the BRI, they have coordinated the funding agents, the consulting groups, the construction firms, and more. They have built a gigantic table, acting as a cornucopia for funding and completing a very large group of massive projects, all over $1 billion in value. Almost none will use the USDollar except in dumped securities in order to cover the costs. It is commonly called Indirect Exchange, since no US-based party is in the mix. The many US-based firms are largely excluded from the BRI contracts. Look for European firms to clean up, especially the Germans since they make friends well and provide world-class technology. The Belt & Road Initiative can be considered the project development arena for the burgeoning newly forming Eurasian Trade Zone, often called the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU). It will not use the USD.

Asian Infra-structure Investment Bank (AIIB)

The AIIBank serves as a gigantic funding agency among the community of nations. Their projects seem to be focused on SouthEast Asia, but not completely. The British deeply angered the Obama Admin by joining the AIIBank last year, against urgent pressure from Washington. Soon a global entity, not just Eastern. The London City (sovereign nation within England) did not wish to lose out in the financial traffic involved in the many projects. The projects will expand beyond Asia, in time to connect Europe. London strives to gain an RMB Hub for both currency exchange and bond trading. Think Panda Bonds, like for Italian Govt debt issuance in RMB terms without any currency risk for Chinese investors. The AIIBank makes the Intl Monetary Fund irrelevant. The Chinese have a newfound dominant role in the IMF, to shut it down as a funding arm, but to ensure the Chinese Yuan currency becomes a bank reserves basis. Together, the Belt & Road Initiative and the AIIBank are the most important investment platforms in retiring the USDollar from its global currency reserve status.

BRICS New Development Bank (NDB)

This platform went quiet in the last couple years, as the AIIBank took away the attention for development. However, the BRICS are organizing better in the last several months. Their projects are entirely focused on BRICS nations, plus their neighbors in connection. The Jackass theory was that South Africa was suffering from high level political corruption, while India was suffering from high level financial collusion. Expect the SA problem to continue, but the Indian independence to come forth in a survival gesture. The BRICS NDBank is pressing forward, with renewed emphasis given by Russia & China for the purpose of gaining momentum. Another Jackass theory is that the New Development Bank will become a primary center for conversion of Western sovereign bonds into Gold bullion for bank reserves purposes. Refer to USTreasury Bonds primarily, but also to EuroBonds, UKGilts, and Jap Govt Bonds. Imagine the power of a central window for conversion of fiat major nation bonds into gold, after the USDollar is well recognized as having lost its global reserve currency status. The implication would be for fast removal of the USTBonds in the global banking system, replaced by Gold bullion. The NDBank could become an important catalyst.

Asian Development Fund

This fund is small and new, but is gaining traction fast, run independently from the USGovt for the benefit of Asian nations, mostly in the SouthEast Asian region. It is competing directly with the Asian Development Bank, led by the USGovt. The Asians do not wish for the United States to run their business development any longer, since assistance comes with a stranglehold and considerable coercion. It is no longer wanted.

Cross-Border Interbank Payment System (CIPS)

This payment system is a direct frontal assault on the SWIFT transaction payment system, as in bank to bank transfers. The USGovt has abused this system for political purposes like a financial weapon, causing severe repercussions and backlash. The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication has a new rival, a strong one with stress test success. The CIPS does not stand for Chinese Interbank Payment System, but it is led and run by the Chinese. It will feature lower fees, faster transfers, and no interference with political motive. It is ramping up in volume, with numerous commitments for its future usage. The USGovt will lose its financial weapon used and abused to isolate nations which do not wish to trade (primarily energy products) using the USDollar.

Shanghai Oil-Gold futures contract

This contract came into being last August, but has not really gotten off the ground yet. It needed a link to the RMB fortress. Now that link has arrived. This contract served as a harbinger of linkage of the two most important commodities for commerce and currency with existing systems. It served as notice for the planned imminent death of the Petro-Dollar. It required completion of the triangle for its full effect.

Shanghai RMB-Oil futures contract

This contract completes the triangle, and will serve as the executions for the USDollar death warrant. With the triangle completed, nations like Russia can sell China its crude oil (by whatever path or delivery method), accept RMB in payment, then quickly convert to Gold bullion within the same city of Shanghai. Think one-stop shopping that undermines the Petro-Dollar system at its core. Expect China to require many of its oil suppliers to use the Shanghai system for managing the forward price contracts, with implicit pressure. The key region to watch is the Gulf Region where the Saudis and their neighbor oil monarchies will line up to use these contracts in oil sales and payment systems. Most assuredly, rival Iran will use the triangle with high volume oil sales to China, keeping the oil price down in the process. However, as important as this triangle is for displacing the King Dollar from the financial catbird seat, more lies ahead. The Oil-RMB-Gold triangle will in all likelihood be used as the foundation for the upcoming Gold Trade Note, which will remove the USTBill as standardized payment instrument for Asian trade. The Gold Trade Note will have an equity placement in gold, a promise of gold payment upon product delivery, and a net settlement feature. If the Oil-RMB-Gold triangle is the death warrant, the Gold Trade Note is the dagger in the USDollar heart with respect to the global reserve currency role. The role has two sides: trade payment (led by oil market) and bank reserves (led by USTBond).

BRICS Gold Platform

This platform has just recently been introduced, promoted for usage by the lead team of Russia & China. They have promoted their plans and objectives for running the platform. They openly deride the usage of paper price discovery methods, which have corrupted the COMEX beyond any recognition of a gold mart where metal is bought and paid for. The COMEX has no metal delivery, but the BRICS Gold Platform will indeed have direct metal delivery. The new platform will feature gold bullion sales with immediate delivery, and thus an honest price system. Expect the eventual merger with their New Development Bank, if their intention ever becomes realized to provide the fulfilled role in conversion of sovereign bonds to Gold bullion bars.

Russian Gold Exchange

Another gold exchange which will likely merge with the BRICS Gold Platform, it will be based in Moscow. Expect this exchange to connect with the Russian Sverbank, and in particular with the Shanghai gold market.

Holy Grail Energy Deal

In the year 2014, the Chinese cut a deal worth $250 billion for delivery of Russian oil & gas, including the construction of delivery pipeline systems. The deal is the largest in the history of the energy market and spans over 10 years in time. To label the deal in USD terms is fully legitimate, even though a bilateral Russia-Chinese contract, because China will pay the great majority of the bill for crude oil, natural gas, and pipeline construction in the form of USTreasury Bonds, in a grand dumping exercise. Yet more Indirect Exchange which will reduce the Chinese Govt official USD holdings. Expect to hear next that the Russians will use the USTBonds to buy RMB currency, and with it convert to Gold bullion in Shanghai in a sudden sequence. In doing so, the Russians will essentially be converting Chinese-held USTBonds into Gold bullion for reserves.

Shanghai Cooperative Organization (SCO)

The SCO is growing in membership beyond the Russia + Former Soviet Republics. The most recent member nation signed on is Iran, which had been given provisional status earlier. By taking its current form in 2001, the SCO organization is designed for cultural, political, economic, security, and other purposes. In 2017, SCO's eight full members account for approximately half of the world's population, a quarter of the world's GDP, and about 80% of the Eurasian landmass. Expect the SCO to rival NATO in an offsetting role toward pursuit of global balance.

Union Pay Credit Card

The Chinese credit card has more subscribers than MasterCard and Visa combined. Just as SWIFT has been sidestepped for any politically-based obstruction, Union Pay can sidestep any Western credit card abuse in obstructions across the Asian Economies. There is precedent for MC/Visa obstructions in Asian countries.

Dagong Credit Rating Agency

The Chinese have created an independent credit rating agency, free from the West, which will be used to provide ratings for bonds and firms. The Western credit agencies of Standard & Poors, Moodys, and Fitch have each become deeply politicized. They ignore the Third World nature of USGovt debt, which is actually worse than the Greek Govt debt. The USTreasury Bond still has a AAA rating, despite $trillion annual deficits without hope of remedy. In recent years, the Big Three Ratings firms have taken on a political motive in downgrades of Russia debt, despite the fact that Russia has exited its foreign-held debt and whose finances have never looked better.

IRONY ON DATES & GOLD RESERVES

Official gold reserves match important dates for Russia and China in their national history. The dates give a message which should be heard, since no such coincidences could have occurred with these important dates. Russia claims 1801 tons right now in their official gold reserves. The year 1801 in Russian history is when Alexander I took reign. He was one of the greatest czars in a millennium for their nation. He devoted himself to foreign policy, well known in the annals for defeating Napoleon. China claims 1842 tons right now in their official gold reserves. Note the irony in Chinese history for that year. The year 1842 marked a time of total embarrassment and weakness to China. In 1842, the Qing Dynasty was compelled to sign the Treaty of Nanking, the first of what the Chinese later called the unequal treaties. It granted an indemnity and extra-territoriality to Britain, opened five treaty ports to foreign merchants, and ceded the Hong Kong Island to the British Empire. The failure of the treaty to satisfy British goals of improved trade and diplomatic relations led to the Second Opium War (1856-1860) in disgusting vile retaliation. The Qing defeat resulted in social unrest within China. That ugly war is considered by the Chinese to the beginning of modern Chinese history.

HAT TRICK LETTER PROFITS IN THE CURRENT CRISIS.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/01/18 11:06 PM

My comment : On Dec 30th on kauilapele's blog, he made 3 posts with many videos of various alternative news journalist reporting the latest of the arrest of many Elites and numerous flights on Dec 29th going to and from Gitmo in Cuba.

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2017/12...n-on-sgtreport/

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2017/12...d-wdim-article/

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2017/12...illary-and-dws/

Benjamin Fulford sources has confirm this.
https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2018/01...ioned-to-gitmo/

I thought Stephen Jones blog today was quite insightful by making a parallels of the NDAA law that Obama passed on Dec 31 2011 in the intention to use against the Christian when 6 years later Trump signed an executive order to use the same law against the Elites. Remember the story of Haman where he himself was hung on the gallow he built to hang Mortecai.

2018--The Year of Redemption from Bondage

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/dail...n-from-bondage/

Jan 1st 2018

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A huge increase in flights to Guantanamo Bay have been seen on official sites showing all flights around the Western hemisphere. Most of those flights are listed as being “unknown,” which would probably be illegal unless these were government/military flights. The question is WHY there are suddenly so many visitors to Guantanamo Bay, coming immediately after President Trump’s Executive Order 13818 on December 20 declaring a “National Emergency.”

https://www.federalregister.gov/document...e-or-corruption

Strangely enough, this “National Emergency” was signed without fanfare and with very little official press coverage. Either the press is yawning, or they are too frightened to report it.

This Executive Order was signed by Trump in order to implement the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that Congress passed on December 31, 2011 and signed into law by President Obama on New Year’s Day, 2012. That was seven years ago today. Everyone complained about it back then, because the NDAA obviously stripped American citizens of constitutional rights, and everyone was afraid that a rogue government would use this law against them—i.e., the wrong people.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dea...4b06c750dd9cd6f

I too saw it as unconstitutional. But yet I recognized that the fall of Babylon was near, and suspected that this law would be used against the Babylonians, rather than against the Christians. Why? Because I saw a parallel in the story of Esther and Haman. I wrote about it in a weblog dated May 8, 2012:

https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2012/05-2012/preparing-for-babylons-fall/

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It is now being reported that the end of Babylon is near, and that its leaders will soon be arrested and brought to the World Criminal Court for trial. Some time ago, INTERPOL was given the right to come here and investigate the criminal activities of our political and financial leaders. Then the NDAA law was signed into law on Dec. 31, 2011, allowing American citizens to be arrested and detained. The Babylonians think they will be using this law on us, when, in fact, it will be used on them.

Remember Haman? That was prophetic of what is about to happen here in America. Haman will be hanged on his own gallows, so to speak.

Last week the president signed an executive order recognizing the International Criminal Court (ICC). This legally allows INTERPOL to arrest the Babylonian leaders and put them on trial for the crimes listed in Revelation 17 and 18.


It appears that this is now coming to pass six years later, although the mainstream media denies it. Immediately after Trump signed this Executive Order, Defense Secretary General Mattis went to Guantanamo Bay and addressed the marines there the next day. He took with him an Associated Press reporter to cover the story.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-mattis-guantanamo-bay-20171221-story.html

It now appears that we have come to the end of the road for Babylon. Their weakness lies in their depravity itself. With money comes the ability to buy whatever they want, and with power comes confidence to commit depraved acts with immunity. They wanted to engage in satanic rituals of human sacrifice, black mass, unholy communion (drinking blood, urine, and eating feces), and other depraved acts, by which they hoped to maintain spiritual power.

They understood (even if most people did not) that sin empowers the law to bring judgment. Therefore, they commit the worst sins possible, knowing that the law of God would be required to judge the nations of the world by turning them over to ungodly rulers—themselves. This warped understanding of the law of God has not been countered sufficiently over the years, because most Christians have not really understood the law. Many know something is wrong, and they pray for righteous government, but they have not known how to bring it to an end by applying the principles of the divine law. Most know that the solution is the blood of Jesus, but they lack understanding of the laws of blood.

Mystery Babylon, then, has succeeded for a long time in putting a spell upon the people that they rule, keeping them blind and ignorant of their devices. However, in their paranoia, they have sought to pass laws that would allow them to imprison those who would never agree with their depravity is good. They have always done their sin in secret until they had time to normalize it within the culture.

In my view the NDAA was passed to give them the legal right to detain those who disagreed with their immoral depravity. But their time has now come to an end, as of 2014-2017. I believe that 2018 will see huge changes as the satanists are exposed and removed from positions of power. Good people have always worked for wicked rulers and depraved department heads. The good people are now rising up and overthrowing the evil ones.

Trump’s new Executive Order essentially is using the NDAA (Haman’s gallows) against the very people who intended to use the it against the righteous ones. Time will tell, but it appears that arrests are being made, and many are being transported to Guantanamo Bay for trial in front of a military tribunal, similar to the Nuremberg Trials of the 1940’s following World War 2.

This is good news. Many Christians are still thinking in terms of a future Antichrist rising up in the midst of “The Great Tribulation,” so they view the future with fear, hoping to evacuate the earth before that time comes (in a “rapture”). They do not realize that antichrists have been with us for a long time, and that the Tribulation began with Jerusalem’s downfall in 604 B.C. That tribulation was a divine contract with the “beasts” of Daniel 7 and the book of Revelation, allowing them to rule for “seven times” (7 x 360 years). That time ended at our Tabernacles conference in October 2017.

We are now seeing the overthrow of the beasts and their depraved rule. Those of us who understand the times and seasons have every reason to be hopeful in the coming year. The year 2018 is the Year of Redemption from Bondage. Twenty is the number of redemption; Eighteen is the number of oppression or bondage. We will see many changes this year.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/12/18 12:37 AM

My comment : I thought this is a good article of the current N.Korea vs Washington fewed and the recent unification dialog between N. And S.Korea. Things are looking good.

‘Shrewd & mature N. Korean leader has won this round' – Putin on peninsula crisis
https://www.rt.com/news/415628-putin-says-shrewd-korean-leader-won/

Jan 11th 2018


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North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has emerged a winner in the latest crisis around the Korean Peninsula, Russian president Vladimir Putin said. He believes Pyongyang is now trying to defuse tensions.
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“He has a nuclear [charge] and a … missile with a range of up to 13,000 kilometers that can reach almost any place on Earth or at least any territory of his potential adversary,” Putin told journalists on Thursday. The Russian president said the North Korean leader is likely to be seeking an easing of tensions in the region."

The latest crisis around the Korean Peninsula broke out in September 2017 after Pyongyang claimed it had conducted a hydrogen bomb test. The US responded to North Korean actions by flexing its muscles and conducting a number of military drills in the region with its allies South Korea and Japan. North Korea replied to this saber-rattling by conducting several missile tests, including one, according to Pyongyang, involving an intercontinental ballistic missile.

Both Pyongyang and Washington, along with its allies, added further fuel to the fire by issuing repeated threats against one another. US President Donald Trump repeatedly said the US could use a “military option” in dealing with the crisis and even threatened to “totally destroy North Korea” during the annual General Debate of the 72nd session of the UN General Assembly. More recently Trump said in a Twitter post that his “nuclear button” is “bigger and more powerful.”

Russia and China, by contrast, have called for a peaceful resolution of the crisis from from the outset. Moscow and Beijing put forward a “double freeze” initiative that envisaged the US and its allies halting all major military exercises in the region in exchange for Pyongyang suspending its nuclear and ballistic missile program. The initiative was, however, turned down by Washington.

Russia also repeatedly called on all parties involved in the Korean crisis to “break the vicious cycle of confrontation, reckless schemes and sanctions” and engage into a meaningful dialog instead. In December, the Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said North Korea wants to engage in a direct dialog with the US to assure its security, adding that Russia could help with these talks.

In January, Pyongyang and Seoul agreed to hold high-level bilateral talks to discuss the North’s potential participation in the Winter Olympics in PyeongChang, as well as other issues related to improving relations.

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During the talks held on January 9, the two sides agreed on the participation of North Korean athletes in the South Korean Olympics. They also discussed the potential reunification of families separated by the Korean War. In a significant breakthrough, the two Koreas agreed on talks between army officials in order to avoid dangerous military incidents.

Pyongyang’s chief negotiator, however said there was no need to discuss the North Korean nuclear program because all its weapons “are only aimed at the United States, not our brethren, nor China and Russia.” Trump meanwhile has claimed it was his aggressive stance that made the negotiations between two Koreas possible.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/12/18 01:01 AM

My comment : On the human trafficking whether for organs or for child sacrifices or sex slaves, Benjamin Fulford sources says the cleaning the swamp effort is now moving towards Europe.

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2018/01...oms/#more-66901

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Meanwhile, now that the top ranks of the Satan-worshipping Khazarian mafia in the U.S. have been decimated, the white hats are grabbing top European pedophiles and Khazarian mobsters and taking them to the U.S. military base on Diego Garcia Island, Pentagon sources say.

Julian Assange is now in U.S. military custody and has provided actionable information to U.S. military and agency white hats. For example, they are now using Navy Seals to track “at least seven shipping containers to stop human trafficking,” Pentagon sources say.

In the campaign against the Khazarian human slavers, the second episode of the BBC mini-series “McMafia” showed Russian and Eastern European women being trafficked into Israel via Egypt, the sources note. Immediately after the show was broadcast, Egypt rounded up 75 people for human trafficking. Also, the Israeli criminal mastermind Moshe Harel was arrested last week for running a worldwide human organ trafficking network.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1220266/world


Police arrest Israeli organ smuggling ‘mastermind’

Jan 6th, 2018
http://www.arabnews.com/node/1220266/world

Egypt detains 75 people in human trafficking probe

Jan 4th 2018
http://www.arabnews.com/node/1219136/middle-east

My comment : I failed to view McMafia on you-tube but found something better -- this video by Misha Glenny -" McMafia: A journey through the criminal underworld." where he explains his journalist Investigation journey in the world wide organized crimes that he calls McMafia.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7msFzJKTVrM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misha_Glenny
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/18/18 05:39 PM

Where does Bitcoin fit into all of this?
Posted By: Charity

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/20/18 04:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
Where does Bitcoin fit into all of this?

Good question. I've wondered that myself. My guess is that Bitcoin and like cryptocurrencies provide a wealth of information that the final world beast authority will use to launch and efficiently manage a global currency. The final global currency will use the "best practices" of crytocurrencies and could be some kind of hybrid. We can be sure of this much - cryptocurrencies are being intensely studied by all of the political and economic powers that be. How much of this information finds its way into the final "best practices" of the global currency is hard to say. Rumor has it that India's recent experiment with a cashless economy was encouraged by one or more western powers as a case study so that we on this side of the globe could learn from their mistakes.
Posted By: Charity

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/20/18 04:29 AM

I should add that India is no small cashless experiment. It is the sixth largest world economy the first five being the US, China, Japan, Germany, and the UK with Canada ranking 10th according to Investopedia.

Another thing to note is what cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin have in common with India - they are cashless transaction mediums, India being government regulated and cryptocurrencies being self-regulated - so far at least. Cryptocurrency proponents would take exception to the idea that their units are "cashless" but the cryptocurrency market is in essence a credit market at best and more akin to a pyramid scheme at worst from what I've seen so far. They are as unstable as investor confidence itself. There are few investments that are more speculative. Anyone who invests in them is not being a good steward of the Lord's resources.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/20/18 07:52 PM

My comment : Another Big Wow event just happened Jan 18th that will most likely have a major impact of the course of things for legally incriminating the Elites. Basically it looks like the Lord is now casting His bright LIGHT beam in the DARK SECRETS corrupt affairs of Secret Babylon.

I have 3 sources that gives details of the implication of this classified Memo that is disclosing much corruption within the Gov. Many Republican demands that this memo becomes public and many other support this request.

1.FoxNews : Brief 11 min youtube video

2.ZeroHedge : Tyler Durden goes thru the FoxNews video in clips while providing more details and good information, tweets from many, and a push to #ReleaseTheMemo. I only provided the Zerohedge's link for those that wants to read the article.

3.Stephen Jones comment on "Q" posting relating to this, on how this memo originated in 2011 with Michael Horowitz, and his discernment how this event relates spiritually and its importance because it hits a major watch date.

1. FoxNews Youtube: Here's a 11 min. short FoxNews cover about this classified memo that they want to make public -- #.

1. Light shinning in the dark Secrets of Mystery[Secret] Babylon Empire

Jan 18th, 2018

Originally Posted By: Brief Introductory Comment of the FoxNews video
Florida Rep. Mark Gaetz and three others have seen a classified Department of Justice memo that shocked them. It was “far worse” than they had imagined. It actually names people who were doing illegal things, they say. Now they want congress to pass a bill declassifying it and making it public. If the memo is released, people from the Obama-Clinton era will go to jail.

No wonder the memo was classified. It was apparently classified in order to hide crime and to obstruct justice."
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...being-revealed/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_DLp3fEIag


2. ZeroHedge: "Explosive", "Shocking" And "Alarming" FISA Memo Set To Rock DC, "End Mueller Investigation"

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-1...r-investigation

Jan 19th 2018


3. The Great Awakening has begun

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/01-2018/the-great-awakening-has-begun/

Jan 19th, 2018

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The term, “Great Awakening,” was a term used to describe a religious awakening in the 1700’s and 1800’s.

In the past few months, the mysterious “Q” poster online has been using the term to indicate a coming disclosure of corruption within government agencies. It appears that “Q” is part of the Trump team, or perhaps the entire Trump team working together. At any rate, “Q” has posted enough to convince most people that he is indeed in a position to know what is going on.

Most recently the term was used to suggest that the recent FISA memo is “the shot heard around the world” and that it is the beginning of the final takedown of the corrupt officials who have abused their positions of power, broken the law, and committed treason of the worst kind.

The story really began in 2011 when President Obama appointed Michael Horowitz as the Department of Justice’s Inspector General. Horowitz was confirmed in 2012. Obama soon came to regret his appointment, and Attorney General Eric Holder immediately began to restrict, limit, and hamstring Horowitz’ investigation. But Horowitz fought back and patiently obtained the right to obtain documentation and evidence that he needed to do his job as “Inspector.” His story is told here:

https://americandigitalnews.com/2017/12/18/doj-ig-horowitz-p1-his-war-with-obama-admin/#.WmJgLainFdg

With a change of administration, Horowitz was finally able to complete his long investigation, and on January 15, 2018 he presented his findings to congress. I am assuming that the FISA memo from the DOJ is part of his report, which has now caused a firestorm. Many congressmen, all Republicans (of course), are demanding that the FISA memo be declassified and shown to the public, so that everyone knows the illegal and treasonous actions that have taken place in recent years under the Obama administration.

The Democrats, of course, oppose the release of these documents, as they (and their party) have everything to lose if the public finds out what the Obama administration was doing. It seems that this document is not classified in order to protect national security, but to protect criminals within the DOJ and the FBI so that they can be shielded from prosecution.

One question asked by “Q” is this: Why does it require a public release of the memo before these criminals can be prosecuted? Why not just prosecute them in a military court at Guantanamo? If the memo is not released to the public, it seems that known criminals will get away with it, because the Democratic Party will do all that it can to save itself.

It seems that the Fakestream Media is rushing to the aid of their fellow criminals. On the same day (January 18) that congressmen were demanding the declassification of the FISA memo, seven CNBC news crew were arrested as they tried to smuggle a fake bomb through airport security. It seems that they were trying to create a diversion with a “false flag” terror event, which would occupy most of the news space, so that the media could push the FISA memo news off the headlines and into a more obscure part of the newspaper.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...rity/ar-AAuUoqq

Here are some of the latest “Q” posts that are analyzed by other commentators. If you have not followed the news in the past year, some of these things may be new to you. If you watch only the Fakestream Media, you may wonder what they are talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScVpQpFUzt4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7iJ5zZ0cLY

How does this fit in with the patterns of timing that I watch?

Ever since Brad and I flew from Manila to Cambodia on November 11, 2017, I began to suspect that we were seeing the start of the latest 76-day cycle. We arrived in Siem Reap, Cambodia on the evening of November 11, which (by Hebrew time) was the start of November 12. This coincided with the very first cycle that I began to live through back in 1981, which I explained in my book, The Wars of the Lord.

The cycle originally marked the parameters of the original prayer campaign from November 12, 1981 to January 27, 1982. At the end of that prayer campaign, there was a 3-day time of “celebration,” ending January 30, 1982.

I have seen this same cycle repeat many times over the years, each having different characters engaging in spiritual warfare. The fact is, each time we have run through the cycle, we have seen different aspects of a single heavenly battle.

So it is interesting that the present cycle began November 11/12 with a plane trip, and on January 30 we again take a plane (to New Zealand).

I have been monitoring various watch dates during this 76-plus-3 day cycle since November, although I have not written much about it yet. December 30, 2017 was a major watch date to monitor, and because of what actually occurred at that time, I knew to watch January 18. Back in 1983, toward the end of the second run-through of this cycle, the night of January 17 was when I joined the Net of Prayer, just prior to moving to Arkansas. By Hebrew time, the night of January 17 was the beginning of January 18.

Now we see that on January 18 the congressmen began demanding the declassification of the FISA memo. “Q” called it “the shot heard around the world.” That may indicate that we will see results on January 22/23 or January 27 or possible on January 30, according to past patterns.

This will be interesting to follow.

Keep in mind that the downfall of “Mystery” Babylon (i.e., Secret Babylon) comes when light shines in darkness and exposes those who do their evil deeds in darkness. Babylon falls when Babylon is exposed to the light of day. So this could be the beginning of Disclosure, as some call it. Keep your eyes open, not just to know how Babylon falls, but also so that you are not caught unprepared. Those who are unprepared are going to be shaken (Hebrews 12:26, 27).


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/20/18 09:59 PM

This is kinda a reply to Daryl and Mark's post with "the Voice" latest outlook on bitcoin currencies vs bitcoin money (there's a difference to be understood) and the blockchain technology.

Just a side note, I have posted a few post differentiating the blockchain technology vs the bitcoin currencies that are widely sold today. The blockchain technology is here to stay and it is this technology that bitcoin uses; but this technoloy can be implemented is so many other ways besides the current bitcoin usage.

I view bitcoin, who most is backed by computer work, as a bubble that will eventually pop and be replaced by some type of other "bit" coins that will be backed with a tangible hard asset.

But here is what The Voice (who is working with the White Chinese Royal families and many other Royal European families who are currently planing and integrating the alternative financial system that the Chinese President, Xi Jinping, is promoting around the world) has to say.

This is a quote from Jim Willie's Jan 16 article "Silver As A Strategic Metal and Why Prices Will Soar". The whole article is a good read : http://www.silver-phoenix500.com/article/silver-strategic-metal-and-why-prices-will-soar

Originally Posted By: The Voice
For those losing faith from multiple years of suppressed Gold & Silver prices, take heart. The Voice responded to a sequence of probing Jackass questions with a firm statement founded in hope, confidence, pointing to a new dawn in financial structures. It is next to impossible to explain to people how things are going to unfold if they do not understand the concept of mal-investment and the difference between currency and money. The ZIRP exhibits the distortions in faulty investments from zero percent money, while QE exhibits the distortions in pure bold rabid inflation. Precious metals are unique, serving as the only true store of value, standard of value and measure of value, besides being a medium of exchange. If one has physical metal stored and understands the inherent control with its direct access at any given moment, it has been and remains the safest way to protect wealth from the current powerful debasement. While people rush into crypto-currencies, they need to realize that crypto-currencies are not crypto-money yet. Once hard asset backed crypto-money is issued, it will be backed by primarily precious metals, structured on the blockchain technology. Crypto-money will wipe the floor with crypto-currencies and $billions will be lost in the process.

The Voice gave emphasis as follows. “Let me tell you something that you can take to the bank and the vault. The day is close when you will not be able to get any physical metal, and furthermore, its price will go into the stratosphere. Blockchain and crypto-currencies are here to stay. However, crypto-currencies will fall to the wayside, pushed out by crypto-money. There are people who are putting crypto-money structures in place that are based on blockchain technology. They will make precious metals fungible, along with other valuable commodities. This means a de-facto democratization of money free from government manipulation, but most importantly free from inflationary debasement. This will constitute the return to sound money. People who do not understand this concept, following the herds of whatever hype, will get their clock cleaned bigtime. The Bitcoin advocates must be careful to secure their exits in converting to spendable money. The recent crypto craze is a manifestation of the US$ being debased. What we witness is hyper-inflation. One is forced to spend more and more dollars to acquire the array of alternative currencies.”
Posted By: Charity

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/21/18 02:46 AM

Thanks Elle. Jim Willie's views, the ones that I've seen, are logical and make good sense. The best investment though is not precious metals, it's in casting our bread on the water and giving sacrificially for the kingdom of God. We have the word of Christ himself that the Lord will reward the faithful 100 fold in this life and that we'll receive eternal life in the end. How many investments yield anywhere near that good of a return? The Lord pays the best wages and his retirement package is out of this world.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/21/18 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Mark Shipowick
Thanks Elle. Jim Willie's views, the ones that I've seen, are logical and make good sense. The best investment though is not precious metals, it's in casting our bread on the water and giving sacrificially for the kingdom of God.

First of all I don't even know if Jim is a Christian. His stand is pure financial giving the heads up with advice in a time where their will be a great turn around in economic structure and wealth when Mystery Babylon will fall.

The next Kingdom on earth will be given to the Saints of the Most High (Dan 2:35,44; Dan 7:14,18,22; Is 2:2: Ezk 44; Rev 5:10; Rev 20:4-6; etc...) According to Dan 2:35 it will grow slowly from a small stone to a great mountain that will fill the whole EARTH not the heaven. The kingdom of God needs material, staff, wealth, etc... to be build and supported. Im not talking about building churches but independent ministries under the leading of the Holy Spirit working with other ministries or wordly organizations that are geared to go help humanity, the broken homes, the sick, the poor, clean the pollution, create clean better energy sources, expose all the falsehood, confusion in science, medicine, all infrastructures, .... There will be a lot of hard work to be done to undo this massive chaos and confusions Mystery Babylon has put us into and bring back the world under God's rightfully rule and lordship where true peace, security and fruitful life is only found.

The Lord always told us a little ahead of time what He is doing. However most Christian do not have ears to see or understand what is actually happening and most thinks that when Mystery Babylon will fall we will be raptured into heaven playing harps and walking on golden brick roads for a thousand years and all problems will be solved this way.

I believe that is the great deception that most Christian embrase including SDAs.

The wise Christians will be those that will take this long time opportunity with all the signs the Lord has given us thru the enfolding events to take advantage of this coming transfer of wealth and safeguard their lifesavings so they can have something to help others in needs when the kingdom will be transferred to the Overcomes.

Originally Posted By: Mark
We have the word of Christ himself that the Lord will reward the faithful 100 fold in this life and that we'll receive eternal life in the end. How many investments yield anywhere near that good of a return?


Well if you end up losing all your lifesavings that God has giving you before this opportunity to safeguard it in something tangible...you will have nothing for God to multiply.

What i read from the bible, God people always gave whatever wealth they had to the kingdom besides their spiritual gifts.
Originally Posted By: Mark
The Lord pays the best wages and his retirement package is out of this world.

By your reply, correct me if im wrong, i think you depend too much on your view of a god that comes with mighty destructive powers that will burn everything on earth by His presence and will come to rapture a remnant before hand. Whats the point of fixing this world since it will be destroyed and only the faithfull one will go to heavens? You think God will solve all the world's mess and problems by punitif destruction and start a new fresh page with a small number of survivors like under 10% of the population. That's no victory nor great conqest to my eyes.

I don't see that type of god in scripture at all. I see a wise, mighty, and sovereign God that will restore-restitute all things (acts 3:21) via His corrective judgments ("With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness"Is 26:9). This text says clearly that the inhabitants of the world will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS once Gods judgments will come on this earth. There's no destruction, nor punishment involve; but a restitutions(restoration) approach when the judgment comes that shows everyone their sin while teaching them the law. Read God's judgments in the law...they are corrective in nature. Read the law of Jubilee by which is the foundation how God's judgment will be managed. Don't you see the forgiveness of all debts at the end of the Jubilee where all return back to their God given inheritance whether or not you had a Redeemer or had paid all your debt?

The Lord wants us to follow His lead wherever His voice is heard no matter from whom it comes from : events, reporters, Christians from other denominations, just a simple man, deep honest studying of his word while putting our heart idols asdide, etc... Wherever His leading is truly is .... it is where i think our best wages and retirement will be.
Posted By: Charity

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/22/18 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
The Lord wants us to follow His lead wherever His voice is heard no matter from whom it comes from : events, reporters, Christians from other denominations, just a simple man, deep honest studying of his word while putting our heart idols asdide, etc... Wherever His leading is truly is .... it is where i think our best wages and retirement will be.


Very true. Here's another quote that a friend sent me last week by Aleister Crowley, one worth memorizing:
Quote:
The sin which is unpardonable is knowingly and wilfully to reject truth, to fear knowledge lest that knowledge pander not to thy prejudices.


I didn't know who Mr. Crowley was but I was so impressed with his wisdom that I thought I should find out. I learned from Wikipedia he was born in the latter 1800's, died in 1945, the son of devout Plymouth Brethren parents but a complete reprobate himself and I thought to myself; "By thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."
Posted By: Charity

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/22/18 04:46 PM

The parables of Christ in Matthew 13 are intended as a warning to all of us that there is no second chance during a temporal millennium. The vision of the great image of Daniel 2 teaches the same; not the conversion of the world but its destruction and replacement by the Kingdom of God. The world is reserved for the meek of God's kingdom and every member of it will be meek.
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/03/18 05:12 PM

Originally Posted By: jJohn 14:1-3 KJV
John 14:1 KJV Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Originally Posted By: John 14:1-3 GNB
John 14:1 GNB "Do not be worried and upset," Jesus told them. "Believe in God and believe also in me.
John 14:2 There are many rooms in my Father's house, and I am going to prepare a place for you. I would not tell you this if it were not so.
John 14:3 And after I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to myself, so that you will be where I am.

Where is He (Jesus Christ) now? Is He on this Earth, or is He in Heaven?

He said that He preparing a place for us in Heaven, not on this Earth, but in Heaven.

After the thousand years are ended, God will eventually re-create the Earth, as it was before sin entered into this world, and only the redeemed who Christ prepared a place for, will be the ones that inherit that New Earth, where there will be no economic structure, as it was prior to the Fall. It was after the Fall that an economic structure was put into place by man, which was a consequence of sin.
Originally Posted By: Revelation 21:1-5 KJV
Rev 21:1 KJV And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 02/03/18 08:52 PM

There's already a discussion in place to address these texts. I will be happy to further discuss these in the appropriate thread -- The second coming, the Judgment, & the 1000 Years http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=138278&page=1

Daryl you had already presented John 14:2 over six years ago and I had replied to you then in post #145084. This text (like so many others) is often mis-interpretated and not understood properly and doesn't stand the test of other scriptures.

Originally Posted By: Daryl
Originally Posted By: jJohn 14:1-3 KJV
John 14:1 KJV Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

Originally Posted By: John 14:1-3 GNB
John 14:1 GNB "Do not be worried and upset," Jesus told them. "Believe in God and believe also in me.
John 14:2 There are many rooms in my Father's house, and I am going to prepare a place for you. I would not tell you this if it were not so.
John 14:3 And after I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to myself, so that you will be where I am.

Where is He (Jesus Christ) now? Is He on this Earth, or is He in Heaven?

He said that He preparing a place for us in Heaven, not on this Earth, but in Heaven.

After the thousand years are ended, God will eventually re-create the Earth, as it was before sin entered into this world, and only the redeemed who Christ prepared a place for, will be the ones that inherit that New Earth, where there will be no economic structure, as it was prior to the Fall. It was after the Fall that an economic structure was put into place by man, which was a consequence of sin.
Originally Posted By: Revelation 21:1-5 KJV
Rev 21:1 KJV And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/03/18 09:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Mark Shipowick
The parables of Christ in Matthew 13 are intended as a warning to all of us that there is no second chance during a temporal millennium. The vision of the great image of Daniel 2 teaches the same; not the conversion of the world but its destruction and replacement by the Kingdom of God. The world is reserved for the meek of God's kingdom and every member of it will be meek.

Mark the truth lies when our interpretation embrases all scriptures...not only some parts. The feasts in the law shows three harvests. Jesus talks about the first harvest in Mat 13. For sure there will be a sorting out of fishes for the first harvest is reserve for only a few elected -- who will be heavily tried and schooled by the fire of the Holy Spirit. The rest of the believers will be disappointed to have not made it...however they still have an important part and job to do as depicted in the prophesy of Ezekiel 44.
Originally Posted By: Mark
The vision of the great image of Daniel 2 teaches the same; not the conversion of the world but its destruction and replacement by the Kingdom of God.

You are adding to scripture and no where it talks about the destruction of the world. Your interpretation differs from Daniel's giving from v.36 to 44. Each statue metal and parts represents different kingdoms. (See Daniel interpretation of it starting v.39 to 44--all being kingdom). It is the kingdom on earth that was taken away from one nation and given to another. When a transfer happened, the people or the world was not destroyed but they were put into submission to another nation and its king.

It is these 4 Beastly kingdoms (their laws & infrastructure and authority) that will be destroyed at the end time, and the nations will be put under the authority of the little stone Kingdom " that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth." Dan 2:35 and will last for ever and ever. 44 “In the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever"

If you are still interested, maybe this is time to look closer at the fall feasts prophecies in the law. As you know the fall feast points to Christ 2nd coming. I believe it does shed light to what is to come. I know I had promised you this study for some years now, but I got overwhelmed by it for it is such a widespread study that we find so many references throughout the Bible. That is good as this way scriptures can talk for itself.

I would like to tackle it in a way that others dig also for it in scriptures. Any suggestions how to go about?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/03/18 09:37 PM

My comment : The FIFA document (see previous post #185877) was made public on Feb 2.

In the kauilapele blog link below, there's three video with comments on the history and the severe implication of this memo -- worst than Watergate and this memo is only the beginning of the great shaking (my term) of our nations that will lead to the great awakening that Q talks about.(see post #185877)

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2018/02...emo/#more-67580

Quote:
We told you so! Mueller’s toast. Nunes is a hero and Trump . . . well, he’s a genius. What a grand day for liberty-loving patriots and a dour day for the fetid and olid Deep State. Bwahahahahaha!

The Nunes FISA memo release accuses senior officials at the DOJ of inappropriately using biased opposition research into then-candidate Trump to obtain surveillance warrants on transition team members as part of the federal investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia, ZeroHedge reports.

According to the document, information from the the so-called Steele dossier was “essential” to the acquisition of surveillance warrants on Trump campaign aide Carter Page. It claims that then-deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe told the committee in December that without the information from the Steele dossier, no surveillance warrant for Page would have been sought.

The memo alleges that the political origins of the dossier — paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) — were not disclosed to the clandestine court that signed off on the warrant request.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-02/fisa-memo-released-heres-what-it-says
https://www.scribd.com/document/370599316/Nunes-Memo

Quote:
MEMO LINK: https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/memo_and_white_house_letter.pdf

Despite knowing the Fusion GPS dossier to be fake, the FBI presented it to the FISA court and utilized it to obtain the Carter Page warrant. This same dossier was directly funded by the DNC and Clinton campaign. This memo also disproves McCabe and others who claimed that while FBI agents had political views they never succumbed to misusing their position to influence politics. This is probably why the DNC CEO resigned two days ago.
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/07/18 11:29 PM

Elle,

You have a better memory than I have. laugh
Originally Posted By: Elle
Daryl you had already presented John 14:2 over six years ago and I had replied to you then in post #145084. This text (like so many others) is often mis-interpretated and not understood properly and doesn't stand the test of other scriptures.

Will check that out and go from there in that thread, if I feel I need to post anything further there.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/09/18 11:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
Elle,

You have a better memory than I have. laugh
Originally Posted By: Elle
Daryl you had already presented John 14:2 over six years ago and I had replied to you then in post #145084. This text (like so many others) is often mis-interpretated and not understood properly and doesn't stand the test of other scriptures.

I find that uncanny. (And it's not about Daryl's memory, either wink ). Very interesting, especially when she had said in one post about how she came on the forum about the same time I did. Who would have known, who would have even thought to check. Interesting.

Quote:
John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in Me.
2 In My Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, so that where I am, you may be also.

I'm not sure she should cue in on "mansions", but should look at "I go and prepare a place". It doesn't say "I come to prepare a place for you" as one may suppose if they were to spiritualize the statement.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/10/18 12:06 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
that are geared to go help humanity, the broken homes, the sick, the poor, clean the pollution, create clean better energy sources, expose all the falsehood, confusion in science, medicine, all infrastructures, .... There will be a lot of hard work to be done to undo this massive chaos and confusions Mystery Babylon has put us into

Because God needs our help?

Quote:
Well if you end up losing all your lifesavings that God has giving you before this opportunity to safeguard it in something tangible...you will have nothing for God to multiply.
Quote:
Don't you see the forgiveness of all debts at the end of the Jubilee where all return back to their God given inheritance whether or not you had a Redeemer or had paid all your debt?
So, no worries, or go in debt because our debt will be forgiven.
In fact, putting the two together can only mean we should completely borrow as much as possible to buy gold, then our debt is canceled and we still have the gold! For God, of course.....
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/10/18 10:11 AM

My comment : The FIFA memo is a powerful piece of evidence against the Deep State (aka mystery [Secret] Babylon) that shows conspiracy against the elected presidency, the constitution, the people, the country, and foreign nations all in the interest to move forward Babylon's tyranical one world order and slavery system. The Deep State is on the run and know they don't have much time before their Luciferians pedophilia (well more than that -- child eating & sacrificing rituals) ring circles are being expose that will shock the world to their core for the atrocities of this practice (an old cannanite & Babylonian practice that Israel had adopted ever since they enter the land of Canaan) is beyond comprehension.

So currently we are seeing the Deep State stirring up wars in Syria and North Korea. Also they seem to be crashing the economic market. It's been awhile we've been hearing of a potential turning off the grid or corrupt the internet in some ways to prevent banking electronic transactions. For sure they will try everything they can pull to keep their power if they can possibly could. I think we should be ready. They could pull some stuff that the Lord may allow so to use this to shake his people to reality. But I do believe that the Deep State (Secret Babylon) is done and whatever tricks they pull would be for a short duration. Because the white hats will succeed to properly and lawfully expose their deep secret in the court of law that this truth will finally free the people from their own slumbering state.

God's perfect plan with all His wisdom written in his prophecies is on track. There is much to rejoice about.

Below are four links with 4 short videos and one hour interview with Dr. Corsi that talks about the recent progress from the white hats group (the good guys that uphold the constitution) whitin the US government in their righteous task in cleaning up the swamp.

1. The 666 signal they control the market days after releasing the FIFA memo and the Rothchilds Black Forest Estate sale
https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2018/02...his-qanon8chan/

[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/nDixoT8GhMo[/video]
https://youtu.be/nDixoT8GhMo

Quote:
Would POTUS make a serious accusation if the TRUTH wasn’t about to come to LIGHT? Black Forest. Austria. Rothschild. FIRE sale days after post? What went on there? Dopey. You have more than you know… Why did the #Memo drop a Friday [& before the SB]? Did this seem strange to you? Watch the news. Rothschild estate sale [Black Forest].

“[666] Signal to POTUS THEY CONTROL THE MARKET? SIGNAL? THREAT? WELCOME TO THE GLOBAL WAR.

“How do you retain ‘Freedom of the Press’ if those in front of the camera [trusted by select viewers] are extensions of the ARM? Freedom of the Press is VITAL to retain.

“TRUST THE PLAN. THERE ARE A LOT MORE GOOD THAN BAD. You, THE PEOPLE, need to remember how TO PLAY. You, THE PEOPLE, have the POWER. We STRIKE every SINGLE DAY. We WIN every SINGLE DAY. EVERY SINGLE DAY THEY ARE BEING DESTROYED – LITERALLY. STAY STRONG. HAVE FAITH. THIS IS BIGGER THAN ANYONE CAN IMAGINE.


2. Dr. Jerome Corsi Feb 7th update and connecting more dots about the FIFA memo that will lead to the pedophilia ring circle.

https://youtu.be/yfuI8mLZxOk
(One hour long interview)

Quote:
Published on Feb 7, 2018
Another blockbuster interview with the inimitable and ineffable Dr. Jerome Corsi. The #GreatAwakening is here and now and there’s plenty of room for you. Welcome to the revolution.


3. Roy Potter 2-7-18 Video-- not for the money!
https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2018/02...f-3-qanon8chan/

https://youtu.be/-dPo0HYnoA0
[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/-dPo0HYnoA0[/video]

Quote:
Threats to President Trump are getting more serious and more frequent. Several sources have verified these threats, and the actions taken to counter them. The USSS (United States Secret Service) is on high alert, as are the Marines and other security forces. If they succeed, the bad actors will not stop at Trump, but pursue, persecute, and harm good, decent Americans. It is time to speak out, and speak loudly!

While posting this, I received word that prosecutors have dropped all remaining charges in the Bundy Case. One problem, the DOJ, FBI, and BLM committed crimes in this pursuit of the Bundys and those supporting them. The government officials that did this must be prosecuted now! As I said many months ago, this Bundy situation and the one of the Hammonds in Oregon, were a result of the DOJ/FBI/BLM trying to cover the crimes of HRC et.al. over Uranium One and Chinese espionage. As bad or worse than not protecting innocent Americans, they failed to protect the Constitution!


4. Ohio gov candidate, Dennis Kucinich, calls out the Deep State -- MSM can't handle it

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2018/02...cant-handle-it/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWUsoWIXfMQ
(4:07 min)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmtZW5HpezI
(4:40 min)

Quote:
"Dennis Kucinich, who recently launched his campaign for Governor of Ohio, has never been afraid to go against the grain and speak out with an unpopular opinion and an unpopular time… after the election of Donald Trump, Kucinich spoke out against an obvious attempt by the Deep State to control and steer the new Trump administration in a direction of their own using internal leaks, scandals, and other forms of pressure against the President.

“Unfortunately for Kucinich, in Democratic party circles as well as in the mainstream media, it’s become a law that, before you can speak a word, you must first condemn Donald Trump. Anything short of disagreement on every aspect of Trump’s administration and raving attacks on his every move is considered treason.

[Kucinich] “You have to look at the institution of the Presidency. This isn’t just about one President. It’s about the Presidency which belongs to the American people. And when you look at the leaks, the anonymous sources, coming from intelligence agencies like the CIA and the FBI, they’re aimed at upending the Presidency, not just the President, and it’s a form of a coup.

“You can look at October, 2016, when President Obama and Secretary Kerry essentially negotiated an agreement with Russia to set the stage for a ceasefire in Syria, the CIA and the Pentagon objected and wouldn’t you know it, after the deal was made, it was upended by a missile attack on a Syrian army base. Now, this was done with the knowledge of the CIA… Personally, I think there’s got to be a cleaning out from top to bottom of these agencies.

“…Kucinich ran afoul of the one-party rule book and, ever since he has launched his campaign for governor, this (and other interviews he gave on the same topic) have been used to smear him as a “conspiracy theorist” and, of course, a Trump supporter (which is tantamount to being called a witch in 1690s Salem).

“…when confronted with a question about his “theory” and “support” of Donald Trump during his campaign announcement, Kucinich exposed an incident in which the same intelligence agencies surveilled and wiretapped him. During his tenure as Congressman from Ohio, he was heavily involved with trying to stop the American war in Libya.

“Kucinich is likely to face more questions about his refusal to irrationally oppose Trump for the sake of collective politics, but it’s an issue, along with his reputation in the Congress, that Kucinich welcomes discussing. “There’s no democrat in the country who has that record in defending the interests of the American people,” Kucinich said. “So I’m happy, you know, if someone wants to discuss that in this race, they came to the right place. Because I actually know more about it than anybody.””
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/11/18 10:14 PM

My comment: Israel (actually the Zionist movement) is behind the wars in Syria and Iran. They were always but before they could hide behind their puppet corrupt US government and other Western countries. Now these western countries are pulling away from the obviously conquered and dying ZIONIST Empire and failing agenda.

Israel "Preparing For War In North", Boosts Air Defenses; Warns Iran

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-11/israel-preparing-war-north-boosts-air-defenses-warns-iran
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/20/18 06:29 PM

My comment : Good historical overview & summary of the Russiagate Hoax.

Your Comprehensive Guide To And History Of The Russiagate Hoax
http://investmentwatchblog.com/your-comprehensive-guide-to-and-history-of-the-russiagate-hoax/

Ian Shilling
Investment Blog
Feb 19, 2018
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/27/18 07:23 AM

Waiting and watching to see what does happen.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/27/18 01:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
Waiting and watching to see what does happen.

Well today there was many news from different alternative sources that are well connected. We even have a CNBC news link showing a major shift of direction of the western countries away from war and towards participating in their own Belt and Road initiatives. Despite the CNBC try to paint this negatively as a "counter to China's Belt and Road"; I think this initiative won't bother China as the US shows sign with going along with the program.

Check out the CNBC link at the end of Benjamin Fulford's quote from this weekly geopolitical below.

Originally Posted By: Benjamin Fulford Feb 26th Geopolitical Report
https://benjaminfulford.net/2018/02/26/k...11-year-hiatus/
..."This event is just the latest sign of a fundamental change of direction for Western civilization away from war and toward peace and development
, according to these sources. If all goes well, trillions of dollars will soon be made available to both pay off debt of the U.S. government and the private sector, as well as finance a massive campaign to end poverty, stop environmental destruction, and turn the planet earth into the paradise it is meant to be, the sources say. This is now being talked about in public by Western leaders and reported on in the corporate media.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/18/us-japan-india-australia-mull-alternative-to-chinas-belt-and-road.html"


Ben's report above goes with WDiM (What Does it means) latest article. Go to the source article link to have access to all kinds of news source links in the article that support their compilation of the news and their deduction.

Trump Pulls World From Brink Of War By Warning “Deep State” America Will Leave Syria

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2496.htm
Feb 25th 2018

Jim Willie latest interview would agree with the first part of what Ben reported about "trillions of dollars will soon be made available to pay off the debt of the US government". Jim wouldn't agree with the second part that it will be available to the US as he says they don't have any gold reserve.

It is true that the US have no gold; but with the December 20th executive order of "freezing the assets of those accused of human rights abuses and corruption, a catch-all to bankrupt the Bushes, Clintons, Soros, Obama, the Cabal, and the global Jewish mafia,” (see Post #185754 ) this might of change recently the US gold holdings.

Canada nearly have no more gold. In Post #179398 of this thread, Justin Trudeau sold Canada's gold reserve just a few months after being elected. So we know Canada has practically no gold also (well maybe they still have 1.7 tonne which is nothing when last reported in Jan 2016).

But for countries that has some gold reserve like we know that the Eastern countries has been pilling up their gold reserve for over 6 years or more as they were anticipating that the US treasury notes, that they've been receiving in exchange of their exported goods, is worthless for them. So these Eastern Nations by demanding a return to a gold standard and an global economic restructure, they foresaw a major gold price adjustment possibly by 10 times or more. That's the only solution for the current economic mess that the BIS also admits that Jim Willie quotes after the first hour of the interview.

So Jim is explaining in his Feb 25th interview that the Global Reset we've been hearing for the past 6 years or more is about to happen with a Jubilee type that was announced by Basel(BIS) by significantly increasing the price of gold with a return to gold backed currencies.

It is a long interview as Jim takes the time to explains all the complex economic & geopolitical components that is at play. But to his view, the BIS is going to let the US dollar go down.

But I've heard from other sources that Trumps December 20th executive order to cease all assets of those that is involve in human rights violation with all those indictments (see Post #185635 ) of those part of the "Deep State" that the US will recover much gold from what the Deep State has stolen. So the future will tell how the US and Canada will fair from this ordeal when the price of gold will go up and trigger the next phase of the Global Economic Restructure.
Originally Posted By: Jim Willie Feb 25th interview description
topics covered include A) the Gold price versus USFed liabilities in the form of bloated toxic balance sheet, with a view toward two points in past history, indicative of much higher Gold price, and B) a developed logical sequence that explains the BIS Basel justification of resolution for the current deep imbalance in the Gold-Oil Ratio with a much higher Gold price, after the USFed violated its banker social pact to hike interest rates in the face of higher oil prices, after derivatives proved a sham to tarnish the Greenspan legacy, after oil producers have sold FX reserves to undermine the USDollar prestige, after the Chinese became a major creditor, with a view toward energy importers (especially those with trade surpluses), whereby a lower oil price is wrecking the global economy, but whereby also a much higher Gold price enables a type of central banker jubilee to cover their debt liabilities, which the global players increasingly regard as unpayable at the doorstep of debt default, while high Gold prices bear no economic consequence in pain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f4gObWkEjg&feature=youtu.be
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/05/18 01:11 AM

My comment : China will make it official world wide on March 26 that the world is accepting Yuan to buy oil that can be exchange for gold. What Lybia and Iraq tried to do now China is boldly doing it. It took many years of careful strategic planning while creating a win win solution for all nations with the Belt and Road initiative.

Jim Willie forecast is that we will live in a dual universe where the Petro-US Dollar will co-live with the Oil-Yuan-Gold Futurs until the US joins the economic restructuring program and changes its currency to a gold backed currency like most other nations is on board to do.

Take note that March 26 is a major Feast watch date when God often makes some very eventful event happens to communicate with us what's He's doing. So it is beneficial to watch His "watch dates" while taking notes. It could be meaningful. This is how I watch the feast time with a new covenant mindset. I watch what God is doing (communicating with us) on those dates.

Crossing the financial Jordan on Abib 10, March 26, 2018

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...-march-26-2018/

March 4th, 2018
Stephen Jones

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The petro-dollar has been the world currency for a long time. When it was in danger of collapse in the early 1970’s, President Nixon switched from a gold-backed dollar to an oil-backed dollar, now known as the petro-dollar.

All countries had to pay for oil in US dollars. That was the deal that was made with Saudi Arabia in exchange for an increase in the price of crude oil. The Saudis also agreed to reinvest their petro-dollars into US bonds to support the value of the dollar.

But in recent years things have been changing. The US government has used its dollar-power as a weapon of mass economic destruction on any country that it did not like. We invaded countries like Iraq and Libya because they tried to sell their oil for euros instead of dollars. Those “bad” dictators were overthrown, while the “good” dictators continued to profit from their relationship with the US government.

But now with the rise of Chinese power in the world, the US dollar is being challenged. The latest development is that China is now about to sell oil futures contracts that are denominated in yuan, rather than in dollars. What Iraq and Libya failed to accomplish is being done by China, and there is little that the US government can do about it.

The power of money undergirds all military and political power. The Fed’s money power is slowly coming to an end. China has done this slowly, not wanting to spark an all-out war. But this is a major turning point, set to begin March 26, Abib 10, the day that Israel crossed the Jordan onto the plains of Jericho (Joshua 4:19).

Quote:

https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Interna...Next-Month.html

In a move that could upend the pricing and trading of one of the world’s most actively traded commodities, China plans to finally launch its long-awaited and delayed yuan-denominated oil futures contract on March 26, Reuters reported on Friday, quoting two sources familiar with the latest developments.

China has been preparing to launch its oil futures contract for years and has postponed or shelved plans several times, but it looks like now it is close to launching an oil futures contract that will give it more clout in crude pricing and promote its currency as a truly global one.

With the contract, to be launched on the Shanghai International Energy Exchange, or INE, China hopes to create an Asian crude oil benchmark that would better reflect pricing for the oil imported and consumed in the world’s top importing region, Asia, and the world’s largest oil importer, China.


Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/05/18 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Take note that March 26 is a major Feast watch date when God often makes some very eventful event happens to communicate with us what's He's doing. So it is beneficial to watch His "watch dates" while taking notes. It could be meaningful. This is how I watch the feast time with a new covenant mindset. I watch what God is doing (communicating with us) on those dates.

Quote:
Crossing the financial Jordan on Abib 10, March 26, 2018

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...-march-26-2018/

...
But this is a major turning point, set to begin March 26, Abib 10, the day that Israel crossed the Jordan onto the plains of Jericho (Joshua 4:19).



March 26? What major feast watch date? How was it determined?
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/06/18 06:02 PM

Twenty more days to go to see if this is a false prediction or not.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/07/18 12:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Take note that March 26 is a major Feast watch date when God often makes some very eventful event happens to communicate with us what's He's doing. So it is beneficial to watch His "watch dates" while taking notes. It could be meaningful. This is how I watch the feast time with a new covenant mindset. I watch what God is doing (communicating with us) on those dates.

Originally Posted By: Steven Jones
Crossing the financial Jordan on Abib 10, March 26, 2018

...But this is a major turning point, set to begin March 26, Abib 10, the day that Israel crossed the Jordan onto the plains of Jericho (Joshua 4:19).

Originally Posted By: kland
March 26? What major feast watch date? How was it determined?

Two things happened on the 10th of Abib in the Bible that makes this a watch date:
1)the selection of the passover lamb.
2)the crossing to the promise land 38 years later after refusing to cross on the first time on Day of Judgment when the Jubilee trumpet was suppose to be sounded in the fall feasts. However, 38 years later God made Israel cross into the promised land on abib 10th instead of the 10th day of the 7th month.

Stephen links this watch date to the second major event in the Bible : the crossing to the promise land that marks entering into the Tabernacle era and leaving the Pentecost era that started at Pentecost after Jesus' death.

There were another sign that God provided on the Second Passover type on the Julian calendar on Febuary 10th (another abib 10th type of watch date) that I didn't communicate it here as it intertwine with other past revelations that many here aren't aware of.

To read about it : https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/02-2018/the-transition-to-the-next-age/

But the message given in Febuary is in line & harmony with this coming event; if it happens that is.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/07/18 12:27 AM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
Twenty more days to go to see if this is a false prediction or not.


A watch date is not a prediction. A watch date is usually based on Feast dates found in the Bible. God might make something happened on a watch date; but most of the time nothing happens.

Stephen Jones shared his impression of the coming potential March 26 announcement based on other revelation he received. There's always a chance despite this date was announced in the past, that it might not happen. Or maybe some other event will happen instead. Who knows what will happened. But there's nothing wrong to share impression that you think comes from the Holy Spirit to the body. The body should understand that hearing God's voice is not such an easy task but we should all pursue it as the Lord has instructed us to do. If someone didn't hear right, or some refinement of what was heard is needed, or it was all in his imagination...we shouldn't cast stones to kill our brother.

If there's an official announcement made on that date as many financial articles has said since Febuary.... don't expect Mainstream Media (MSM) to make a big deal out of it or seeing some major event. It's only an official announcement of the opening of the yuan-oil market futures contracts between nations. This will open also trading in other commodities between nations while by-passing the Petro-dollar. MSM will try to pretend that nothing has happened as long as they can; however this is a major event that's been progressing gradually for many years.

China also planned to make that official announcement last year; but it didn't happened because of the pressure and tricks of Mystery Babylon at the time.

Those following this type of financial news knows its coming. It's been years already that many nations are already trading in Yuan by-passing the Petro-dollar. It's just haven't been made official yet.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/china-yua...he-petrodollar/

http://www.scmp.com/business/global-econ...will-give-china

Whether it will happened or not; it is still to be seen. We might have another big announcement that will come with it... A watch date is a watch date to look if God will make something happen on those dates to communicate to us what He's doing behind the scenes. Sometimes something happens that is in line with other revelation. Most of the times nothing happens. There's many Feast watch dates to watch every year while taking notes of past revelation.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/07/18 05:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Daryl
Twenty more days to go to see if this is a false prediction or not.


A watch date is not a prediction. A watch date is usually based on Feast dates found in the Bible. God might make something happened on a watch date; but most of the time nothing happens.

Stephen Jones shared his impression of the coming potential March 26 announcement based on other revelation he received. There's always a chance despite this date was announced in the past, that it might not happen. Or maybe some other event will happen instead. Who knows what will happened. But there's nothing wrong to share impression that you think comes from the Holy Spirit to the body. The body should understand that hearing God's voice is not such an easy task but we should all pursue it as the Lord has instructed us to do. If someone didn't hear right, or some refinement of what was heard is needed, or it was all in his imagination...we shouldn't cast stones to kill our brother.

If there's an official announcement made on that date as many financial articles has said since Febuary.... don't expect Mainstream Media (MSM) to make a big deal out of it or seeing some major event. It's only an official announcement of the opening of the yuan-oil market futures contracts between nations. This will open also trading in other commodities between nations while by-passing the Petro-dollar. MSM will try to pretend that nothing has happened as long as they can; however this is a major event that's been progressing gradually for many years.

China also planned to make that official announcement last year; but it didn't happened because of the pressure and tricks of Mystery Babylon at the time.

Those following this type of financial news knows its coming. It's been years already that many nations are already trading in Yuan by-passing the Petro-dollar. It's just haven't been made official yet.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/china-yua...he-petrodollar/

http://www.scmp.com/business/global-econ...will-give-china

Whether it will happened or not; it is still to be seen. We might have another big announcement that will come with it... A watch date is a watch date to look if God will make something happen on those dates to communicate to us what He's doing behind the scenes. Sometimes something happens that is in line with other revelation. Most of the times nothing happens. There's many Feast watch dates to watch every year while taking notes of past revelation.

◯ Then what is the point of a watch day?
◯ Isn't Mr. Jones a discredited TV propagandist?

///
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/07/18 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle

Originally Posted By: kland
March 26? What major feast watch date? How was it determined?

Two things happened on the 10th of Abib in the Bible that makes this a watch date:
1)the selection of the passover lamb.
2)the crossing to the promise land 38 years later after refusing to cross on the first time on Day of Judgment when the Jubilee trumpet was suppose to be sounded in the fall feasts. However, 38 years later God made Israel cross into the promised land on abib 10th instead of the 10th day of the 7th month.

Stephen links this watch date to the second major event in the Bible : the crossing to the promise land that marks entering into the Tabernacle era and leaving the Pentecost era that started at Pentecost after Jesus' death.

There were another sign that God provided on the Second Passover type on the Julian calendar on Febuary 10th (another abib 10th type of watch date) that I didn't communicate it here as it intertwine with other past revelations that many here aren't aware of.

To read about it : https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/02-2018/the-transition-to-the-next-age/

But the message given in Febuary is in line & harmony with this coming event; if it happens that is.

So you're saying there's many "abibs", just take a pick?

So March 26 is just a made up abib? What I was asking, was how was it determined to be the 10th of abib?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/09/18 01:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Daryl
Twenty more days to go to see if this is a false prediction or not.
A watch date is not a prediction. A watch date is usually based on Feast dates found in the Bible. God might make something happened on a watch date; but most of the time nothing happens.

Stephen Jones shared his impression of the coming potential March 26 announcement based on other revelation he received. There's always a chance despite this date was announced in the past, that it might not happen. Or maybe some other event will happen instead. Who knows what will happened. But there's nothing wrong to share impression that you think comes from the Holy Spirit to the body....

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
◯ Then what is the point of a watch day?
This is one way God communicates with us to tell us what He's doing behind the scenes in advancing His Kingdom on earth. Re-read what I said to Daryl and what I've added for kland below.
Originally Posted By: James Peterson
◯ Isn't Mr. Jones a discredited TV propagandist?

??? To my knowledge he never was on TV besides some home-church videos he's been invited to speak at. He doesn't even pastor a Church or from any denomination. At times he does organize a feast gathering twice a year(Passover & Tabernacle). But he's not the only one that does, others also organize it instead and he's invited as one of the guest speakers.

I hope you are not spreading malicious fake news about our brother. Please provide your source.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/09/18 02:27 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle

[quote=kland]March 26? What major feast watch date? How was it determined?

Two things happened on the 10th of Abib in the Bible that makes this a watch date:
1)the selection of the passover lamb.
2)the crossing to the promise land 38 years later after refusing to cross on the first time on Day of Judgment when the Jubilee trumpet was suppose to be sounded in the fall feasts. However, 38 years later God made Israel cross into the promised land on abib 10th instead of the 10th day of the 7th month.

Stephen links this watch date to the second major event in the Bible : the crossing to the promise land that marks entering into the Tabernacle era and leaving the Pentecost era that started at Pentecost after Jesus' death.

There were another sign that God provided on the Second Passover type on the Julian calendar on Febuary 10th (another abib 10th type of watch date) that I didn't communicate it here as it intertwine with other past revelations that many here aren't aware of.

To read about it : https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/02-2018/the-transition-to-the-next-age/

But the message given in Febuary is in line & harmony with this coming event; if it happens that is.

Originally Posted By: kland
So you're saying there's many "abibs", just take a pick?

No you don't just pick anyone, you watch them all to see if God will do something on those dates.

There's one abib month that starts in the spring on the Hebrew calendar. In addition to that the 2nd Passover on the second month of the Hebrew calendar is based on the first abib. (Number 9:9-13)
So on the second month similar to the first month we watch the 10th, 14th, 15th, 16th day.

Then some years back, God told some individuals to also watch the first two months on the Julian calendar following the pattern of the 1st and 2nd Passover months. The Julian calendar happens about 2-3 months before the Hebrew calendar. If a sign is given on the Julian calendar watch dates, these has to be in harmony with the signs given on the Hebrew calendar to be considered as valid. So the watch dates on the Julian calendar are little pre-signs; but the main signs happens on the Hebrew Feast Calendar months.

Originally Posted By: kland
So March 26 is just a made up abib? What I was asking, was how was it determined to be the 10th of abib?

No, March 26th falls on Abib 10 of the first month of the Hebrew Calendar. Check your calendar, moon phase, and date of passover.

As you know there's many Feast calendar going around with different dates. I receive the Karaites barley ripeness reports from Nehemiah Gordon who goes to Jerusalem every year to inspect the barley ripeness. But as we have discussed in Are the Feast Days and Sabbaths still Binding? discussion #Post172912, and #Post172974 that God removed His glory (His name) from Jerusalem and transferred it to his people at Pentecost. The first harvest of the Feast is a barley harvest that is a firstfruit (a small remnant) that are known as the 144K or the overcomers. These are the ones that hears God's voice and follow the lamb wherever He goes (Rev 14:4). So these people are now the New Covenant equivalence of the Barley ripeness symbolism of in the old covenant. So I think watching Jerusalem's barley harvest to know when is the start of the Hebrew year is now obsolete and we should be looking for revelations given to the barley harvest group(aka 144k or the overcomers).

This is my understanding according to my studies and impressions. Stephen Jones does share his impression of the watch dates by which I take note and observe without drawing any conclusion but he never really explained how he determines when these dates falls in the calendar in details. Some years his dating was in line with the Karaites calendar, others with the Hillel II calculation, some years on the exact moon phase like this year. But what I've noticed it seems that his dating is based on the events that God brings about above anything else.

How do we know if an event is a sign or not that happens on a watch date?

Many events can happen on any day. From following Stephen's blog for the past 7+ years, what I got that it is determined based on past revelations on watch dates that builds up from year to year. There's a progression. These also follow biblical patterns set in the law (Pentateuch--Torah), in the feasts, patterns setup by events given by the prophets in the Bible or by Jesus or others in the New Testament.

To discern if the events on a watch date if it is in line with the Bible by converting the symbolism of the event to the Biblical narrative....must come from the Holy Spirit and not your intellect. Those that are not able to hear the Holy Spirit speaking to your spiritual man, the new creation man in you conceived by the Holy Spirit, will not be able to discern watch dates. It is not something you can figure out via your intellectual and deduction powers.

Our intellect is our carnal man (aka soul or natural man) that governs the body. But our spiritual man, the new creation in you (2Cor 5:17) that never sins (1Jn 3:9) should be the one that governs the soul. That's the order of our makeup: body, soul, and spirit (1Thes 5:23). However, our soul (the mind==intellect) has usurp the place of our spiritual man (that also have its own mind==Christ mind). However the irony of this is our soul(intellect) doesn't understand spiritual things, nor can it.

I like the way the KJV termed it in 1 Cor 2:14 -- "But the natural man [psychikos--psyche, living soul] receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.". So this is the error many does in studying scripture or understanding others that speaks from the spiritual man within, our intellect cannot discern spiritual things.

To discern watch dates or any other prophetic revelations; we need to access our "anointing" that has been given to all of us. 1 Jn 2:27 "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." We all have access to the Holy Spirit talking to our spiritual man. Let's inquire and learn to hear better the voice within that will never lie to us.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/09/18 08:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland

[quote=kland]March 26? What major feast watch date? How was it determined?


Originally Posted By: kland
So March 26 is just a made up abib? What I was asking, was how was it determined to be the 10th of abib?

No, March 26th falls on Abib 10 of the first month of the Hebrew Calendar. Check your calendar, moon phase, and date of passover.

As you know there's many Feast calendar going around with different dates. I receive the Karaites barley ripeness reports from Nehemiah Gordon who goes to Jerusalem every year to inspect the barley ripeness. But as we have discussed in Are the Feast Days and Sabbaths still Binding? discussion #Post172912, and #Post172974 that God removed His glory (His name) from Jerusalem and transferred it to his people at Pentecost. The first harvest of the Feast is a barley harvest that is a firstfruit (a small remnant) that are known as the 144K or the overcomers. These are the ones that hears God's voice and follow the lamb wherever He goes (Rev 14:4). So these people are now the New Covenant equivalence of the Barley ripeness symbolism of in the old covenant. So I think watching Jerusalem's barley harvest to know when is the start of the Hebrew year is now obsolete and we should be looking for revelations given to the barley harvest group(aka 144k or the overcomers).
I seem not to be getting an answer. I must not be asking the question clear enough.
I do not know how else to ask:
  • How is it determined that March 26th falls on Abib 10?

Barley ripeness, Jerusalem, 144K, New Covenant, symbolism,
"revelations given to the barley harvest group(aka 144k or the overcomers)"

What does this all mean in determining that March 26th falls on Abib 10?

Are you really saying that those who feel they are of the 144K just feel (through "revelations") that Abib 10 falls on date X?

Are you really saying there is no obvious way to specify that March 26th falls on Abib 10?

If not (meaning if it's not a made up arbitrary date of specifics made only to those who made up the date with not evidence otherwise), show me.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/10/18 06:55 AM

My comment : I think these two prophetic discernment of QANON posting via current Biblical prophecy by Stephen are very interesting.

1. Prophetic connections from Q between Kobe Steel and Babylon's Iron

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...-babylons-iron/

Mar 08, 2018

2. The last days of the Queen of Heaven, with confirmation from Q

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...rmation-from-q/

Mar 09, 2018
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/12/18 06:44 PM

Guess I won't bother asking yet again.
Guess I'll conclude you consider "watching" Abib 10 falls on 365 days a year.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/24/18 10:42 PM

My comment : Wow... a real important discovery has just been made that will make it quite easy to drain the swamp.

The SES (Senior Executive Service) are the Shadow government aka the Deep state that Trump is trying to drain. Here's a recent blog by Stephen Jones describing the SES.

The Senior Executive Service (SES) is the Shadow Government

March 21, 2018

Quote:
Here is a short introduction to Kristine Marcy, the founder of the SES. It is an interview with her half-brother, Field McConnell, who is a Christian believer. Field has opposed the Satanism of his half-sister for a long time. He now says that she has been arrested or has turned herself in to Judge Jeanine Piro. (We will have to follow through on this.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9lEtLZm3bE

The SES was founded in 1979 to allow unelected officials to overrule or veto decisions of any head of a government agency, including the Department of Justice, the FBI, the CIA, and any other intelligence organization. Members automatically get top security clearance with no real background checks. They control 54 out of 58 government agencies.

The Wikipedia says this about the Senior Executive Service (SES):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Executive_Service_(United_States)

On December 15, 2015, President Obama signed an Executive Order enhancing the power of the SES. By the time Obama left office, 8000 out of 9,158 members of the SES were his appointees. Today these are Obama’s soldiers who are part of the treasonous attempt to overthrow the current president.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the...ecutive-service

More info on SES is in this 45-minute discussion on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgQpY9F2a2I

The real question is: Who controls the SES? Whose idea was it to establish it in 1978-1979?

Does President Trump know that the SES is the main source of his opposition? Why has he not yet gotten rid of the SES, even though it has put up a multitude of roadblocks for his appointments and policies? Is the SES the “swamp” that Trump is trying to drain?

Kristine Marcy probably would not turn herself in unless she was about to be arrested (and sent to Guantanamo for enhanced interrogation). This could be the first step in overthrowing the secret government. It makes me wonder if the bulk of those sealed indictments are directed at SES members.


My comment :
To learn more about the SES : https://aim4truth.org/2018/01/03/deep-state-shadow-government-revealed-senior-executive-service/

see also https://americans4innovation.blogspot.ca/

and also https://patriots4truth.org/2018/03/17/research-tools-for-digital-truth-sleuths/

Here's Douglas Gabriel and Michael McKibben review of their new discoveries they have made while researching Senior Executive Services(SES) and SERCO.

Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/25/18 01:17 AM

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FYI,

In the interest of the public good, and of anyone prone to being carried away by every conspiracy:

Originally Posted By: Wikipedia
According to the Office of Personnel Management, the SES (i.e. the Senior Executive Service of the United States) was designed to be a corps of executives selected for their leadership qualifications, serving in key positions just below the top Presidential appointees as a link between them and the rest of the Federal, civil service, workforce.

That means that whenever there is a change of administration after General Elections, and the necessary change in political appointments to head government agencies take effect, the SES ensures continuity without disruption by providing to the new policy directors institutional memory. In this way, no new head of an agency has to reinvent the wheel of civil service all over again.

To remove the SES is stupid, really stupid and political foolishness. And, regretably, Donald Trump is not infallible.

Originally Posted By: Wikipedia
Up to 10% of SES positions can be filled as political appointments rather than by career employees. About half of the SES is designated "Career Reserved", which can only be filled by career employees. The other half is designated "General", which can be filled by either career employees or political appointments as desired by the administration.

Due to the 10% limitation, most General positions are still filled by career appointees. And ALL Career-reserved positions are filled by career employees.

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Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/26/18 10:14 PM

On the one hand, the theology of Stephen Jones which Elle seems to have adopted, I do NOT agree with. It has too much of a "new age" slant.
For example:
Originally Posted By: Elle
Our intellect is our carnal man (aka soul or natural man) that governs the body. But our spiritual man, the new creation in you (2Cor 5:17) that never sins (1Jn 3:9) should be the one that governs the soul. That's the order of our makeup: body, soul, and spirit (1Thes 5:23). However, our soul (the mind==intellect) has usurp the place of our spiritual man (that also have its own mind==Christ mind). However the irony of this is our soul(intellect) doesn't understand spiritual things, nor can it.


What is that saying? Is it saying don't logically think about truth, don't engage your intellect, for the intellect is carnal, but turn for truth to the "god" inside you to look for answers? Then there's the -- looking for unusual happenings on certain days and this again seems to teach the idea of looking inside to come up with a "spiritual meaning" that the event supposedly reveals. That, coupled with the "everyone will be saved" some just take longer to "evolve" or be pressured into kingdom material -- I find that theology very problematic.
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However -- a lot of what Elle presents is very interesting, and I wouldn't just sweep it under the carpet as unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/26/18 10:27 PM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson

In the interest of the public good, and of anyone prone to being carried away by every conspiracy:

Originally Posted By: Wikipedia
According to the Office of Personnel Management, the SES (i.e. the Senior Executive Service of the United States) [size:14pt]was designed to be a corps of executives selected for their leadership qualifications , serving in key positions just below the top Presidential appointees as a link between them and the rest of the Federal, civil service, workforce.

That means that whenever there is a change of administration after General Elections, and the necessary change in political appointments to head government agencies take effect, the SES ensures continuity without disruption by providing to the new policy directors institutional memory. In this way, no new head of an agency has to reinvent the wheel of civil service all over again.

To remove the SES is stupid, really stupid and political foolishness. And, regretably, Donald Trump is not infallible.

Originally Posted By: Wikipedia
Up to 10% of SES positions can be filled as political appointments rather than by career employees. About half of the SES is designated "Career Reserved", which can only be filled by career employees. The other half is designated "General", which can be filled by either career employees or political appointments as desired by the administration.

Due to the 10% limitation, most General positions are still filled by career appointees. And ALL Career-reserved positions are filled by career employees.






SES

The SES would have a relevant function IF it were only an advisory organization to help the newly elected presidential team to take up their duties.

However, the point of concern is the INCREASING power of the SES to put forth it's own agenda and nullify the presidential team's authority and ability, and force them to be the puppet or visible heads of the SES agenda.
The SES has moved away from it's original purpose and into the seat of controlling the government.

Is the following true?
Originally Posted By: former link
OUT OF THE 8,156 MEMBERS WHO MAKE UP THIS DEEP STATE OF ENSCONCED BUREAUCRATS, OVER 7,000 WERE APPOINTED BY OBAMA.

These the are the “Obama Holdouts” that still control the executive branch of government a full year after Trump has come to office. Obama expanded the existing program of Deep State managers and appointed over 7,000 of the 8,156 bosses who are called the Senior Executive Service. Some call it the “Shadow Government”, and it is true that this federal cabal works in the shadows.


James, quoting Wikipedia, says Obama could only appoint 10% or about 800. The above quote turns the percentage upside down with only 10% NOT appointed by Obama.


The following statement comes from a report that supports the SES --
Quote:
Sixty-eight percent of the federal government’s top career corps will experience their first presidential transition in January as senior executives, according to data from the Office of Personnel Management.

The bulk of the current career Senior Executive Service – composed of roughly 7,000 individuals across the executive branch – were appointed to the SES during the past seven years during the Obama administration, data from OPM’s internal Enterprise Human Resources Integration tool shows.


It seems to be true that the "bulk of the SES" 7000 out of the 8,156 members were elected during the Obama presidential years. They only know the Obama ways, they've never been through any government "transition" before.
The only question that remains is -- how much influence did Obama have in their election?

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/27/18 02:05 AM

Quote:
It seems to be true that the "bulk of the SES" 7000 out of the 8,156 members were elected during the Obama presidential years.
Now if that's true, that's scary!
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/27/18 11:37 AM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
///

FYI,

In the interest of the public good, and of anyone prone to being carried away by every conspiracy:

Originally Posted By: Wikipedia
According to the Office of Personnel Management, the SES (i.e. the Senior Executive Service of the United States) was designed to be a corps of executives selected for their leadership qualifications, serving in key positions just below the top Presidential appointees as a link between them and the rest of the Federal, civil service, workforce.

That means that whenever there is a change of administration after General Elections, and the necessary change in political appointments to head government agencies take effect, the SES ensures continuity without disruption by providing to the new policy directors institutional memory. In this way, no new head of an agency has to reinvent the wheel of civil service all over again.

To remove the SES is stupid, really stupid and political foolishness. And, regretably, Donald Trump is not infallible.

Originally Posted By: Wikipedia
Up to 10% of SES positions can be filled as political appointments rather than by career employees. About half of the SES is designated "Career Reserved", which can only be filled by career employees. The other half is designated "General", which can be filled by either career employees or political appointments as desired by the administration.

Due to the 10% limitation, most General positions are still filled by career appointees. And ALL Career-reserved positions are filled by career employees.

///


This is like what happens with the change of a pastorate. The board of elders, especially the first elder, provides to the new Pastor insight into the congregation, seeking to make the transition as easy as possible: not only for the new Pastor, but the members too. The Pastor simply provides new ways of doing things within the guidelines of the church manual.

What would happen if the new Pastor were to come in and with a bulldozer-like mentality, removed the board of elders and replaced it with people he brought with him? Wouldn't that be stupid?

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Posted By: dedication

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/28/18 06:51 AM

Caution in promoting something we don't really understand is always wise. I'm sure there are honest, hard working individuals in the SES, and we need to be careful in generalizations.

From my limited reading on the SES --

It was established by President Carter back in 1979, and the objective was to improve the civil service system. People were sought out who were skilled and reliable to oversee and administer the different federal programs.
It seems a sort of hierarchical system was established with the OPM being the "upper" managers with many lower level managers and directors administering their various civic programs; these "lower level" directors are accountable to the OPM.
If run honestly, it does sound like a sensible system.

For most -- their positions continue right through a presidential election, thus keeping the civil service system up and running smoothly no matter if there is a presidential change over.

But what happens when the OPM gets too powerful?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/31/18 01:02 AM

For that answer, consider the EPA...
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/06/18 01:22 AM

My comment : Well China did succeed to launch the Yuan-oil-gold futures as previously announced on March 26 which fell on a Nisan 10 watch date. This is a major financial step in destroying the Petro-dollar and progressing into the new Global Economic Restructure.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-26/petroyuan-futures-volume-dominates-brent-big-traders-step

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : China will make it official world wide on March 26 that the world is accepting Yuan to buy oil that can be exchange for gold. What Lybia and Iraq tried to do now China is boldly doing it. It took many years of careful strategic planning while creating a win win solution for all nations with the Belt and Road initiative.

Jim Willie forecast is that we will live in a dual universe where the Petro-US Dollar will co-live with the Oil-Yuan-Gold Futurs until the US joins the economic restructuring program and changes its currency to a gold backed currency like most other nations is on board to do.

Take note that March 26 is a major Feast watch date when God often makes some very eventful event happens to communicate with us what's He's doing. So it is beneficial to watch His "watch dates" while taking notes. It could be meaningful. This is how I watch the feast time with a new covenant mindset. I watch what God is doing (communicating with us) on those dates.

Crossing the financial Jordan on Abib 10, March 26, 2018

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...-march-26-2018/

March 4th, 2018
Stephen Jones

Quote:
The petro-dollar has been the world currency for a long time. When it was in danger of collapse in the early 1970’s, President Nixon switched from a gold-backed dollar to an oil-backed dollar, now known as the petro-dollar.

All countries had to pay for oil in US dollars. That was the deal that was made with Saudi Arabia in exchange for an increase in the price of crude oil. The Saudis also agreed to reinvest their petro-dollars into US bonds to support the value of the dollar.

But in recent years things have been changing. The US government has used its dollar-power as a weapon of mass economic destruction on any country that it did not like. We invaded countries like Iraq and Libya because they tried to sell their oil for euros instead of dollars. Those “bad” dictators were overthrown, while the “good” dictators continued to profit from their relationship with the US government.

But now with the rise of Chinese power in the world, the US dollar is being challenged. The latest development is that China is now about to sell oil futures contracts that are denominated in yuan, rather than in dollars. What Iraq and Libya failed to accomplish is being done by China, and there is little that the US government can do about it.

The power of money undergirds all military and political power. The Fed’s money power is slowly coming to an end. China has done this slowly, not wanting to spark an all-out war. But this is a major turning point, set to begin March 26, Abib 10, the day that Israel crossed the Jordan onto the plains of Jericho (Joshua 4:19).

Quote:

https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Interna...Next-Month.html

In a move that could upend the pricing and trading of one of the world’s most actively traded commodities, China plans to finally launch its long-awaited and delayed yuan-denominated oil futures contract on March 26, Reuters reported on Friday, quoting two sources familiar with the latest developments.

China has been preparing to launch its oil futures contract for years and has postponed or shelved plans several times, but it looks like now it is close to launching an oil futures contract that will give it more clout in crude pricing and promote its currency as a truly global one.

With the contract, to be launched on the Shanghai International Energy Exchange, or INE, China hopes to create an Asian crude oil benchmark that would better reflect pricing for the oil imported and consumed in the world’s top importing region, Asia, and the world’s largest oil importer, China.


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/06/18 02:46 AM

My comment : Qanon (or Q a US military intelligent and closely work with Trump) has posted yesterday about some coming crisis of the Catholic Church this May. We don't know what will happen if anything will happen but it is something to watch.

"Q" said that their (RCC) downfall is in their symbolism. I've posted some years ago about Paul VI Audience Hall shaped as a snake head. So by the way this Hall is design the pope speaks from the mouth of the serpent. "Q" ask the question in post #1002, “If Satanists took over the Vatican, would you notice?” I don't remember who on this forum said the pictures were tricked photo shots. Looks like he didn't notice it when for others it is obvious. Some thinks that the world is run by the Black Pope or others by the White one. I think that's exactly what the 2nd Beast of Rev 13 wants us to think by making us worship the pope while they stay hidden and remain SECRET. My understanding from scriptures and history that the 2nd Beast are Zionist [who said, God is not coming so let's fulfill prophecies ourselves] at mind and has its roots from a Jewish sect who are actually Luciferians. Do recall about the early history of the work of the Jesuits (created by Loyola who was a Marranos -- a Jewish sect from Spain) in infiltrating the catholic church.

I thought the recent event about Pope Francis dropping the Hell doctrine was very interesting. His current beliefs is that there's no hell and people simply vanish -- are annihilated. His belief is very similar to Adventist.

Stephen comments that the early Church did not believe in annihilation; they believed in the "Restoration of all things" (Acts 3:21). Stephen said The Annihilation doctrine came via Parham’s Pentecostal movement in the early 1900. I wonder by whom or when the Adventist adopted this doctrine. Anyone knows? Was it earlier than 1900 or later?

The Splintering of the Roman Catholic Church

April 4th, 2018

Quote:
I have shown in other articles and books that the fourth beast of Daniel 7, was the Roman Empire, and the “little horn” extending Rome’s rule has been the Roman Church beginning with Justinian.

We are now at the end of the allotted time for the rule of the beasts. That time ended in October of 2017 with the transfer of authority to the saints of the Most High (Daniel 7:22 KJV). The end of beast rule was pictured in another way in Daniel 2, where the stone hits the feet of the image, crushing not only the feet and toes, but also the entire image.

If our view is correct, we ought to see the Roman Church begin to disintegrate, along with its support from the financial beast from the earth (Revelation 13:11, 12). I have focused mostly on the financial beast insofar as recent prophetic signs are concerned. But we should also look for signs regarding the Roman Church itself.

Pope Francis appears to be the last pope, according to the prophecies of Saint Malachy in the 12th century. When he came on the scene, I wrote about this, wondering what he might do to bring down the church. Or perhaps the church would fall apart in spite of his best efforts.

Francis has been known to make some startling Trump-like statements. Call them “trump-ets” if you want. The latest was his statement in an interview that debunks the traditional view of hell. He was reported to have said “Hell does not exist.”

The pope’s advisors immediately downplayed his statement and tried to pass it off as a translation error. But no one is buying that. The fact is, he DID say that, and now he cannot unsay it.

Some Vatican officials even tried to impeach Pope Francis for heresy!

https://amredeemed.com/sunday-deception/...cis-for-heresy/

I suppose that is a preferable way to deal with it. In the past, they simply assassinated the popes and then honored them in death, pretending that nothing was amiss.

Shortly after this statement, plaster began to rain down from the ceiling at St. Peter’s Basilica, and most people are taking this as a sign that Francis is destroying the Roman Church.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5561483/Plaster-rains-ceiling-St-Peters-Basilica.html

Quote:
The Vatican has had to seal off part of St. Peter's Basilica after chunks of plaster fell from the ceiling just hours after Pope Francis is alleged to have proclaimed that 'Hell' does not exist.

Bits of the ceiling rained down over worshippers near Michelangelo's famed Pieta statue to the right of the main entrance, although no one was injured.


This interview was published on March 28, just before Passover. Here is an article about it.

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/pope-francis-there-no-hell

However, alarmed Vatican officials quickly denied the quotation, reminding everyone of the church’s long-time teaching on hell.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43596919

Quote:
The Vatican has denied that Pope Francis told a well-known Italian journalist that "there is no hell".

The quote came in an article in Italy's La Repubblica daily. But the Vatican said "no quotations" in the article "should be considered as a faithful transcription" of the Pope's words.


The timing of this controversy tells me that it may actually be the beginning of the end for the Roman Church. Time will tell. Will the traditionalists be able to put the cat back into the bag? It is too early to tell at this point. But it seems to me that Pope Francis knows church history well enough to understand that for the first four centuries, the vast majority of Christians believed in the Restoration of All Things. See my short booklet on this topic here:

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/books/a-short-history-of-universal-reconciliation/

The truth is that there is indeed a “hell,” but the Roman Church has misrepresented it as a place of torture, because they have not understood the law of God or divine justice. I myself would not have stated “there is no hell.” I would have said, “Hell must be redefined according to Scripture and not according to church traditions that developed among the Latin fathers in later centuries.”

Nonetheless, the Roman Church probably cannot survive such truth, for it overthrows 1618 years of church traditions since the big controversy arose in 400 A.D. That is a long time in which the original church teachings were forgotten. Could it be, then, that this will be the issue that will crack the Vatican? Will this bring down the plaster in the Basilica?



The looming Catholic crisis
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/04-2018/the-looming-catholic-crisis/

April 5th, 2018

Stephen Jones
Quote:
Catholics are not going to let Pope Francis’ abolition of hell be forgotten or swept under the rug. Hell is too important to them. The crisis has just begun.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/catast...ope-franciss-de

Quote:
ROME, April 4, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – Mainstream media was in a furor last week over the news of Pope Francis purportedly saying that “hell does not exist” and that unrepentant souls in mortal sin simply “disappear.”

On the eve of the Holy Thursday, an Italian journalist published an article claiming that the pope had told him that hell does not exist. Eugenio Scalfari, 93, atheist journalist and founder of the left-wing newspaper La Repubblica, claimed on March 28 that Pope Francis had told him two days before that the souls of those who do not go to heaven are annihilated.

“Souls are not punished,” Francis allegedly said. “Those who repent obtain God's forgiveness and go among the ranks of those who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot be forgiven disappear. There is no hell — there is the disappearance of sinful souls."


It appears that Pope Francis is an annihilationist, that is, that non-Catholics will be annihilated, not tortured, and that they will “simply disappear.” I also wonder where Francis picked up the idea of annihilationism, since this would have been a rare view among the early Church Christians.

Interestingly enough, a similar belief was held by Charles Parham, one of the original Pentecostals, who oversaw the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on New Year’s Eve of the year 1900. The only difference is that Parham, like most annihilationists, believed that these sinners would be burned up, rather than just disappear.

Parham has been ignored largely by the mainstream Pentecostal movement, which usually traces its origin to Azusa Street in Los Angeles in 1905, rather than to Parham’s earlier movement in 1900.

Regardless of one’s belief, it is clear that the belief in Annihilationism did not hinder the Holy Spirit from showing up at Parham’s meetings. So one could draw the conclusion that such a belief was not a requirement for either salvation or the infilling of the Holy Spirit.

Nonetheless, recent events show just how important it is to Catholics (and others) that sinners burn in hell forever. It will be interesting to see, then, how many Catholics will turn into Protestants, protesting the Pope’s view of hell.

What happens if there is a New Protestant Movement in 2018? If Catholics rebel, it will show that they do not really believe that their popes are necessarily ordained by God, nor do they believe that they should submit to whatever he says is true. If they impeach Francis for heresy, what would that do to the overall organization itself? The charge of heresy implies that such a person has forsaken a core belief of Christianity itself and is therefore not a true Christian. In other words, such a person will “go to hell.” Hmm, Dante’s Inferno had a pope in hell, too.

The same article above continues, saying,

Quote:
The story was highlighted in the United States by the Drudge Report, whose online headline shrieked “Pope Declares No Hell?” It linked to a March 29 article by Michael W. Chapman of CNS News, who called Francis’s alleged remarks “a denial of the 2,000-year-old teaching of the Catholic Church about the reality of Hell and the eternal existence of the soul.”


Chapman’s statement shows his ignorance of church history, of course. The doctrine of hell as an eternal fiery pit for all sinners, from which there is no escape, is NOT a “2,000-year-old teaching of the Catholic Church.” Most of the early church believed in the Restoration of All Things, and the big controversy over this teaching did not come to the surface until the year 400 A.D.

While some of the Latin fathers held the view of eternal torment, such as Tertullian, Lactantius, and Augustine, their Greek-speaking counterparts did not. The Latin fathers did not know Greek very well, and they interpreted aionian to mean “eternal,” rather than “age-abiding.” Even a century after the controversy had erupted, Augustine himself lamented in his writings that “most people” believed in Restoration, not eternal torment. I wrote about this in my book, Creation’s Jubilee.

I am delighted, of course, that the pope’s newly-revealed doctrine has brought up this topic for discussion (and infighting). Hell teaching needs to be put on the front burner, so to speak. Christians have assumed for a long time that this was taught by the apostles from the beginning. But that is not true, as anyone who has studied church history well knows. In fact, this is one of the big church secrets that they would rather not discuss. It is embarrassing to them.

Short-term embarrassment is better than long-term deception.

Q Posts

The recent “Q” posts tell us that the pope will have a terrible (month of) May. Does Trump know that something is coming? Will it take until May to impeach the Pope? Time will tell.

Q also hints that Epstein Island is connected to Rome in some way. Epstein Island, owned by Jerry Epstein, the great pedophile and friend of politicians, built an underground temple on his island, where Satanist politicians like to worship and to fulfill their lusts. Now, Q says, he is trying to hide the tunnels or destroy them to hide the evidence. However, since he allowed cell phones on the island, nothing could be hidden.

“Phones were allowed in. These people are stupid,” says Q. The NSA can listen in on any telephone conversation. And it has recorded all the conversations on Epstein Island. Q says, “The bite that has no cure—NSA.” All of the technology that was originally set up to spy on average Americans is now being used to against the corrupt Satanist politicians. Think about Haman’s gallows. Haman died on his own gallows.

After the Vatican II Council in the early 1960’s, a new meeting hall was built in 1971. Architecture is important to occultists and to Freemasons. The building itself is called Nervi Hall, named after its architect. The meeting room is called Paul VI Audience Hall, named after Pope Paul VI, who became Pope during the latter days of Vatican II.

2018_apr_5_The_looming_Catholic_crisis.jpg

See also:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm...nakes_mouth_in/

Here are more pictures:

http://www.masatotoysforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=4589

The hall was designed to place the pope in the serpent’s mouth between its two fangs to show that he is the spokesman for the serpent. Q says, “Symbolism will be their downfall.” This is because they believe in “As in heaven, so on earth.” Hence, in order to bring spiritual realities into the earth, they design architecture and other images in such a way as to accomplish this. Their “downfall” will come when people discover the meaning of their symbolism, for then there will be no more secrets. Mystery Babylon relies upon secrecy to survive.

Q poses the question in post #1002, “If Satanists took over the Vatican, would you notice?”

Well, a Jesuit named Malachi Martin noticed. In fact, he wrote a book about it entitled, Windswept House. It was written as a novel, because he wanted to live to see its publication. Martin was what you might call a “true believer” who objected to Vatican II. He discovered that while Paul VI was being installed as pope on June 21, 1963, a parallel ceremony was taking place nearby which was a ritual to crown Satan (the serpent).

Hence, the question, “If Satanists took over the Vatican, would you notice?”

On April 4, 2018 Q posted this:

Quote:
List the estimated wealth of religious organizations.
Billions.
Vatican Bank.
$229B ($229 billion)
Board of Superintendence.
Supervisory Commission of Cardinals.
Clown connection [connected to the CIA, “Clowns in America,” as he calls them]
1832 Rothschild loan to the Holy See.


Q is now revealing things about the Vatican that the intelligence organizations have known for a long time. He is suggesting that the Vatican Bank is connected to the CIA and that the Bank has been allied with the Rothschild banks since 1832.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1832_Rothschild_loan_to_the_Holy_See

This was probably an outgrowth of the Council of Vienna (“Holy Alliance” of 1815). The Rothschilds were said to be the bankers of the Holy Alliance. Hence, when the modern banking system collapses in the fall of Mystery Babylon, the Vatican will collapse with it, because these banks are all tied together.

We live in momentous times. Keep in mind that the Q posts began about 10 days after the feast of Tabernacles last October. The timing of these posts shows their importance in the prophetic flow of events.


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/06/18 07:03 PM

Notable Resignation List

My comment : There's been lots of important resignations of CEOs and other hi-profiled individuals in the news since things has changed in the worldly events against Babylon. The Elitists and the ones working for them knows things has changed against them as they are loosing control. Anything they do doesn't work anymore like it used to. Nothing works for them simply because it is the appointed time for Mystery[Secret] Babylon to fall and to be exposed. They are scared and on the run. They need our prayers.

This list starts from Sept 1st 2017 to April 5th 2018 having 1734 notable resignations. Isaac Green goes thru the list highlighting the popular ones in the youtube video below from the 13 min to 41 min mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=767&v=ieiQOJ8W6YU

The list can be found at : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...?sle=true#gid=0
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/07/18 12:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : Well China did succeed to launch the Yuan-oil-gold futures as previously announced on March 26 which fell on a Nisan 10 watch date.
But as you were questioned, if it happened on March 25 or March 27, it would also be on a Nisan 10 watch date.

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"Q" ask the question in post #1002, “If Satanists took over the Vatican, would you notice?”
smile I will hold my tongue.

Plaster falls, lightning strikes, I wonder what a certain James would make of this? What if the pope converts to Adventist?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/07/18 12:12 AM

But I should say, it kind of sounds like a report on The Onion.

You know like
https://www.theonion.com/pope-francis-sneaks-leftovers-to-false-god-moloch-at-ba-1819579614
VATICAN CITY—Quickly scanning the alley to make sure no one would see him with the scraps he had placed on a spare offering plate, Pope Francis reportedly stepped out the back door of St. Peter’s Basilica late Wednesday night and slipped leftovers to the false god Moloch.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/08/18 12:03 AM

Roseann Barr and the Battle of Jericho

My comment : I was watching the news and did see the MSM reaction to Roseann Barr; but I did not check the date she spoke out or connect this to be a Battle of Jericho. I do read QAnon post and the alternatives media comments about it and did see the news clips against Roseann and QAnon.

So time will tell how this will further develop with Roseann Barr comments, the crisis of the Catholic Church in may, and further development on Epsein Island...if these truths will crack the walls of Mystery Babylon.

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...tle-of-jericho/

Apr 07, 2018

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I have been writing about the Jericho battle being fought (prophetically) during the seven days of Unleavened Bread, which began this year on Passover, the evening of March 30, 2018, and ended on April 6. Now that this time period has ended, how did this battle manifest last week?

Who would have ever guessed? I have never been a Barrista, nor have I followed Roseann, as I never liked the direction of her shows. It seemed to me that she was always a darling of the left in their push to change American culture from Christian to Babylonian. So the news that she has been a staunch supporter of President Trump from the beginning took me by surprise.

It seems that her recent show caused a great howl heard round the world, where she referenced Trump and MAGA (“Make America Great Again”) in a positive, though humorous light. This occurred on the evening of March 30, the first day (evening) of Unleavened Bread.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/31/politics/roseanne-barr-conspiracy-tweets/index.html

The mainstream fake news is livid that she is an avid follower of “Q” (www.qanon.pub) and has even requested to talk with him, her, or them. Trump then called Roseann to congratulate her on her new comedy TV show.

On April 2, someone asked, “How was your Easter, Q?”

He replied, “We had a good laugh,” and he posted pictures of media reports that were anguishing over Roseann Barr’s admiration of Trump. See post 984, dated April 2.

www.qanon.pub

Eventually, this forced the mainstream media to address Q in the news on April 6, the last day of the Jericho battle.

New York Times Opinion

Normally, the media ignores such news, because they do not want to publicize the opposition. First they ignore it, and when they are no longer able to do so, then they attack it. Then the war becomes public knowledge.

So on April 6 the New York Times published an editorial attacking Roseann, Q, Trump, and all “conspiracy theories.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/06/opinion/qanon-trump-conspiracy-theory.html

The article is a mixture of truth and fake news, of course. Michelle Goldberg, the author, attacks the idea that there are pedophile rings. She goes so far as to say:

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“Stories about globalists stealing children for sex aren’t that far removed from stories about Jews stealing children to use their blood making matzo.”


Really? Is that the best argument she can come up with to call this a conspiracy theory? So it’s just a coincidence that millions of children disappear each year? Roseann has congratulated Trump for freeing thousands of children in child-trafficking arrests already. These arrests are a matter of public record, although the mainstream media has only grudgingly reported on them, greeting these arrests with yawns and ho-hums.

Michelle Goldberg, on behalf of the New York Times, seems to oppose such arrests. Who are they trying to protect?

On the other hand, Roseann Barr has tweeting congratulations to Trump for doing something about this child-trafficking. Now that a celebrity’s face has been attached to the fight against child-trafficking, the New York Times is really alarmed, because the news can no longer be suppressed.

Backpage Site Shut Down

On April 6, just as the New York Times was being forced to admit the existence of Q, President Trump shut down a major child-trafficking website called Backpage.

www.backpage.com

Trump went after them on April 6, just three days after signing an anti-child-trafficking bill into law. Here is a report from The Washington Times about the bill before Trump signed it into law.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/25/sex-trafficking-bill-shuts-down-online-communities/

The timing of this bill and the enforcement of the law against this online site on April 6 puts it at the forefront of this Battle of Jericho. Here is a Reuters article telling that the site was shut down.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-b...s-idUSKCN1HD2QP

No doubt the mainstream media will complain about First Amendment rights protecting the child traffickers. Michelle Goldberg, after all, has insisted that it’s all a conspiracy theory. Her theory is safely on an opinion page, but the New York Times is counting on its reputation to convince others that her opinion is true.

Exposing Other Pedophiles

But in recent days leading up to this shutdown of Backpage, Q had hinted that Trump was up all night because something big was happening. Q then hinted of a second all-nighter and implied that it was part of a military operation (or secret war). At the same time, Q began to post pictures from Ray.Chandler (i.e., Rachel Chandler) for us to investigate. These pictures are of famous men posing with young girls. One of them shows Bill Clinton with a young girl. Another shows Eminem (the rock star) with a young girl.

Q is dropping crumbs for people to investigate for themselves. He draws no conclusions himself. He is just directing the people to learn the truth for themselves. Even so, he suggests a connection between Ray.Chandler, Epstein Island, and the Vatican. If those connections are proven, the walls of Jericho will fall.

Michelle Goldberg says also,

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“In the QAnon reality, Trump only pretended to collude with Russia in order to create a pretext for the hiring of Robert Mueller…”


Really? I have read every post from Q and can assure you that he never claimed that Trump “pretended to collude with Russia.” She lies in order to make it look like Trump was admitting that he colluded with Trump and was offering some sort of lame excuse for his behavior. Such is the nature of the media war taking place. But unless people actually check out her statements by reading all of the Q posts, they will not know who to believe. She knows that most of her readers will not check out her statements. That’s propaganda.

Q is now promising to post other pictures, such as one where Barack Obama, in tribal dress, is shown holding an AK47. When someone questioned this, Q responded,

The important point is who Hussein [i.e., Obama] is aiming the gun at.
Red, White, and Blue.

We do not yet know what that picture will show, but he is suggesting that it is anti-American, or perhaps he is pointing the gun at the American flag. We will see. Pictures are worth a thousand words, and if there is such a picture, this will not easily be erased from peoples’ minds.

Conspiracies are a Fact of History

Any serious student of history knows that conspiracies have gone on unabated for thousands of years. The rise of every government or leader has seen the rise of opposition parties who plot secretly to overthrow them. Such plots, by definition, are called “conspiracies,” and many have been charged with conspiracy over the years.

I am the first to admit that some conspiracy theories are bogus. But those who deny the existence of conspiracies, always relegating them to “theories,” either do not know any history at all, or they are on a public relations propaganda campaign.

Michelle Goldberg apparently believes that for the first time in recent history, all conspiracies have ceased under the benevolent and watchful eye of the rich and powerful who all have our best interests at heart. Any evil person or assassin in the country is, therefore, a "lone gunman" who could never be hired by a government agency or an ambitious man seeking political power.

In my view, the minute conspiracies to overthrow or undermine the existing order cease to exist, someone will step up to the plate and conspire to obtain power, money, and the right to exploit the vulnerable sexually. That is human nature, especially among those who do not know God.

Once they are in power, they will only seek to increase that power, destroying or ridiculing all of their enemies, and, as a last resort, making sure that only they have any weapons of significance to enforce their will. Then, fearing the power of the media, they take control of it, one way or another, and hire sycophants to sing their praises everywhere, lest the public might discover their true character and motives.

Such people well know the evil core of human nature, but they convince the public that human nature is incapable of hatching conspiracies or committing heinous sexual crimes or human trafficking. They tell the people that people are good by nature, thus supporting the idea that there can be no conspiracies, for such would be against human nature.

And most certainly, such things could never happen in a Democracy!

Well, sorry, but I disagree. I have seen too much over the years, and I have read the history books to learn from the past. Having read books on church history, most of which were written by the churchmen themselves, I know how religious men are not immune from ambition and vice. In recent years, they have learned to hide their depravity from the public, but it is difficult to hide these things from everyone, even when one controls the news media.

The internet itself is a media that can be used for either truth or fake news. It is often difficult to know which narrative is true, but in the end it has the power to overthrow whole governments. I believe it now represents the ancient nation of Media, ruled by Darius the Mede, who overthrew Babylon (Daniel 5:32).

For this reason, it is important to understand the power of the media, because God is now using the internet media to overthrow Babylon. Now is the time.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/11/18 06:52 PM

The Future Of Europe Is Civil War

My comment : Civil war is what to expect [if God doesn't intervene] from having an influx of Islamic extremist coming in countries. These extremist believes and pushes the sharia law.

Very good article concerning the problems in England (as in other European countries) where residents are loosing their rights and are outlawed while the Islamic extremist are protected when they aggress citizens. Whatever they(citizens) do is viewed as a hate crime against Islam.

This problem is not only in England but all of Europe who accepted a large influx faces many social problems. Canada is facing the same problem.

I don't want to dwell on the negative here as I know that the Lord has a plan to deal with these social problems. So the article below and others of the same nature are good to read so we understand how serious the problem is and how we allowed it to come in so we can come to repentance.

Below is some quotes extracted from the article.

Full article : https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-10/future-europe-civil-war

April 10th, 2018

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"'The 78-year-old resident found two males inside the address. A struggle ensued between one of the males and the homeowner. The man, aged 38, sustained a stab wound to the upper body.

'London Ambulance Service took the injured male, who was found collapsed in Further Green Road, SE8, to a central London hospital. He was pronounced dead at 03:37hrs.'

What happened next? Of course, this pensioner was arrested on suspicion of murder. Murder! A crime which requires premeditation and to be without lawful excuse, for stabbing an intruder to your home.

...
his is a travesty of justice at any time, let alone the crime nightmare we find ourselves in today. You are more likely to be raped in London than New York. Terrorism is impossible to control. Islam is appeased and treated as an exalted religion over our own and is in control of increasingly large territories across the country. The leader of the Christian faith in Britain has simply given up. White Britons are a minority in their own capital. Free speech died long ago in the land of my fathers. You've heard this song from me and others before. The rhetoric of terrorism will never win and strong and stable becomes a little more shrill with every passing assault on my people. The police investigate online hate speech but not muggings - as the unfairly maligned Katie Hopkins said, if this terrorism losing, I'd hate to see it win.

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Our enforcement officers are visiting mosques today to speak to residents about hate crime concerns.

If you face anti-Muslim hate, report it to @TellMamaUK and always dial 999 in an emergency. #WeStandTogether pic.twitter.com/j92uOU6UgC

This is not a police officer. This is an enforcement officer, whose job is to collect information about crimes committed against the good name of Islam. "
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/12/18 06:17 PM

My comment : I found this bill via Benjamin Fulford weekly geopolitical report. This is great for the USA. It looks like there's 30 months time period to have this done after this bill is enacted. That's long. But at least its steps in the right direction to get a new US dollar backed by gold.

From Benjamin Fulford April 9th 2018 report :

https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2018/04...gun/#more-69495

"Also, as a part of this move against the Khazarians and their “create money out of thin air” con job, a bill has been introduced to the U.S. Congress to require that the U.S. currency be backed by gold. (Gold, by the way, that will be supplied by Asian friends of the American people, according to White Dragon Society sources.) On this front, top-secret negotiations are ongoing, but should result in “tens of trillions” of dollars being made available to help rebuild the U.S., say sources involved in the negotiations."

Bill 5404 : To define the dollar as a Fixed weight of gold

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5404/text

March 22, 2018
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H.R.5404 - To define the dollar as a fixed weight of gold.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. FINDINGS.

Congress finds the following:

(1) The United States dollar has lost 30 percent of its purchasing power since 2000, and 96 percent of its purchasing power since the end of the gold standard in 1913.

(2) Under the Federal Reserve’s 2 percent inflation objective, the dollar loses half of its purchasing power every generation, or 35 years.

(3) American families need long-term price stability to meet their household spending needs, save money, and plan for retirement.

(4) The Federal Reserve policy of long-term inflation has made American manufacturing uncompetitive, raising the cost of United States manufactured goods by more than 40 percent since 2000, compared to less than 20 percent in Germany and France.

(5) Between 2000 and 2010, United States manufacturing employment shrunk by one-third after holding steady for 30 years at nearly 20,000,000 jobs.

(6) The American economy needs a stable dollar, fixed exchange rates, and money supply controlled by the market not the government.

(7) The gold standard puts control of the money supply with the market instead of the Federal Reserve.

(8) The gold standard means legal tender defined by and convertible into a certain quantity of gold.

(9) Under the gold standard through 1913 the United States economy grew at an annual average of four percent, one-third larger than the growth rate since then and twice the level since 2000.

(10) The international gold exchange standard from 1914 to 1971 did not provide for a United States dollar convertible into gold, and therefore helped cause the Great Depression and stagflation.

(11) The Federal Reserve’s trickle down policy of expanding the money supply with no demand for it has enriched the owners of financial assets but endangered the jobs, wages, and savings of blue collar workers.

(12) Restoring American middle-class prosperity requires change in monetary policy authorized to Congress in Article I, Section 8, Clause 5 of the Constitution.

SEC. 2. DEFINE THE DOLLAR IN TERMS OF GOLD.

Effective 30 months after the date of enactment of this Act—

(1) the Secretary of the Treasury (in this Act referred to as the “Secretary”) shall define the dollar in terms of a fixed weight of gold, based on that day’s closing market price of gold; and

(2) Federal Reserve Banks shall make Federal Reserve notes exchangeable with gold at the statutory gold definition of the dollar.

SEC. 3. DISCLOSURE OF HOLDING.

During the 30-month period following the date of enactment of this Act, the United States Government shall take timely and reasonable steps to disclose all of its holdings of gold, together with a contemporaneous report of any United States governmental purchases or sales, thus enhancing the ability of the market and of market participants to arrive at the fixed dollar-gold parity in an orderly fashion.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/13/18 04:40 PM

My comment : There's many out there who follow and comment on QAnon postings. I have listened to about 10 of them. They do have some good insight but I find Stephen post on QAnon is quite insightful. So below are two of these QAnon posting comments by Stephen.

April 10th, 2018

The war continues

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/04-2018/the-war-continues/

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The civil war going on in the US government has now gone to a new and unprecedented level with the FBI seizing the papers and records of President Trump’s private lawyer, Michael Cohen. What is going on? How does this tie in with the prophetic pattern today?

Exit Strategy from Syria

First, President Trump announced a week ago that he was going to pull out all US troops from Syria. Syria’s president Assad then apparently decided that Trump’s decision was unacceptable, so he used chlorine gas in an attack on the city of Douma, knowing that this would scuttle those plans.

The same thing happened a year ago when Syria’s war against ISIS was all but won. Just when he truly had no need to use any gas to win the war, he decided to use it on innocent civilians.

In both cases it assured that the US would be forced to retaliate—and to remain in Syria, fighting the Assad regime.

Does this make any sense?

It certainly makes no sense to anyone in the Intelligence organizations or the military. When trying to figure out the perpetrators of an attack, they always ask themselves “who benefits?” So it seems that only the gullible public would believe that Assad actually carried out these gas attacks—assuming, of course, that the attacks actually occurred. So far, the “reports have not been confirmed.”

They don’t need confirmation. When the newspapers repeat the story enough times, the reports are assumed to be true.

It is obvious that someone in the US government or military does not want US troops to leave Syria. And they are willing to use some gas on innocent Syrian civilians to accomplish this goal. Or, at the least, they are willing to lie in the Fakestream media.

A year ago, in retaliation for the use of sarin gas, Trump gave orders to use missiles to bomb some empty buildings on an old airbase. It seems to me that he knew Assad was not guilty, but public perception forced him to retaliate in some way. Once again, Trump is pretending to be outraged over Assad’s supposed gas attack last week, even calling him “an animal.”

Meanwhile, it appears that Senator Mafioso from Arizona went to Syria, probably to meet with his friends in ISIS, as he did some years ago. “Q” exposed this trip in posts 1088, 1089, 1094 and 1095. See the link below. #1088 identifies who’s who in the pictures. His Blackwater contractors were not pictured, except for one man in the shadowy background.

https://qanon.pub/

It is almost certain that the recent gas attack, as with the one a year ago, was perpetrated by the US-backed Syrian rebels in order to keep US troops and arms in Syria. The problem is that these people know how to cover their tracks. They have long experience in such matters. Q implies that the Israeli’s helped cover up the evidence when they bombed the place where the gas supposedly was made.

Q says in post 1106, “ISRAEL strike harmed ability to prove events.”

Q has been very careful not to say anything about Israel. On the surface, Trump is being pictured as pro-Israel, but the above statement suggests that he knows more than he is revealing. It is the same on many fronts. Hence, we cannot take Trump at face value. He learned a lot about acting in his show, The Apprentice. He has put on many shows in the past year.

Q has proven many times that he is part of Trump’s cabinet and is, in fact, Trump’s main outlet for news behind the scenes. Therefore, while the mainstream news media gives a story for public consumption, Q gives us the real story.

Throughout the postings since last October, Q has hinted constantly that Trump’s backers, operating behind the scenes, are engaged in a huge subterfuge to make Trump look weak and vulnerable. Such a tactic causes the Deep State to miscalculate many things. For example, it looks like Attorney General Jeff Sessions is at odds with Trump. But Q has consistently told his readers to “Trust Sessions.”

He did so again today in post 1122, saying,

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TRUST SESSIONS. [attorney General Jeff Sessions]
TRUST WRAY. [FBI Director Christopher Wray]
TRUST KANSAS. [Mike Pompeo, former Kansas congressman, later head of CIA, State Dept.]
TRUST HOROWITZ. [DOJ’s Inspector General Michael Horowitz]
TRUST HUBER. [John Huber, prosecuting attorney from Utah assisting the DOJ]
Q


Who is NOT on this list of people we should trust? Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, who is investigating the Trump campaign to try to find “collusion with Russia.” Hence, it appears that Mueller is on the side of the Deep State in this war—unless, of course, Q is hiding something that is still deeper. But it appears certain that Mueller is not among Q’s trusted men.

Mueller has been trying for over a year to find some evidence of “Russian collusion.” Having found nothing, he has now shifted his focus to the payment given to the [censored] star, Stormy Daniels, who told her story last week on television. It is said that she had been paid to keep secret a tryst with Trump more than ten years ago.

It appears that the very convenient fire at Trump Tower was designed to give someone other than firefighters cause to break into Trump’s apartment to check for fire.

The Raid on Cohen’s Office

What is most striking in this post is that it comes immediately after the FBI raided the office and home of Trump’s personal lawyer, Michael Cohen. It is obvious that Q is not in a panic over this raid. Instead, in post 1115, Q simply draws our attention to the recent fire at Trump Tower in New York City and tells us to read carefully the following article about Michael Cohen:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/07/nyregion/trump-tower-fire.html

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He said there were no orders to evacuate but he received a text message from Mr. Trump’s lawyer, Michael D. Cohen.

Mr. Shields, who said he grew up with Mr. Cohen, continued: “He said, ‘Are you in the building?’ I said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘You better get out ASAP.’ That’s how I knew to get out, otherwise I’d still be in there.”


I’m not sure why this detail is important. However, it appears that this fire was used as an excuse to break into Trump’s apartment at Trump Tower, and perhaps also Michael Cohen’s office. Whatever “evidence” they found was then presented to the DOJ and used to get a warrant to seize all of Cohen’s records.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/us/po...Collection=N.Y. / Region&module=Trending&version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article

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“… [T]hese warrants were obtained by an unrelated group of prosecutors. The searches required prior consultation with senior members of Mr. Trump’s own Justice Department….”


Reports say that the raid was done by the FBI, but apparently at the request of the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Geoffrey S. Berman.

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“Mr. Sessions appointed the United States attorney for the Southern District, Geoffrey S. Berman, only in January. Mr. Berman is a former law partner of Rudolph W. Giuliani, a former New York mayor and a supporter of Mr. Trump.”


According to this report, Berman initiated this search warrant, even though he used to be “a former law partner of Giuliani… a supporter of Mr. Trump.” Berman was appointed by Jeff Sessions. Q says that we are to “trust Sessions.” Are we therefore also to trust Berman?

I smell a rat here. It seems quite likely that Berman and Sessions are engineering this latest turn in the war with the Deep State—to say nothing about FBI Director, Christopher Wray, who we are also supposed to trust.

Are all of these “trusted” men really turning against Trump, or is this part of a trap being laid for the Deep State? On April 8, the day before the raid, Q wrote, “Trust the plan.” The next day, the day of the raid, Q posted, “Trust POTUS,” (i.e., President of the United States). He seems confident that this raid is all part of a bigger plan and that nothing is out of control.

On April 5, Q posted, “We are in control.” He said the same again on April 7.

If that is the case, then Trump’s outrage at the raid is a big act to make the Deep State think that it was winning, so it would become overconfident, not knowing that they were being led into a trap. This is either a disaster for Trump or a very ingenious plan, using a pretty good actor as president.

The Battle of Ai

Recall that from March 31 to April 6, we saw the Battle of Jericho play out prophetically in the Social Media battleground. The next battle, of course, is the Battle of Ai (Joshua 7). At our recent Passover conference, we anticipated this battle, and so we took steps to prevent a repeat disaster seen in Joshua 7. We repented ahead of time on behalf of any who would follow the example of Achan in Joshua 7:1, 20, 21.

I have written about the Achan Doctrine in many places, including a full discussion of it in chapter 10 of Creation’s Jubilee:

The Achan Doctrine is the refusal to give all the gold, silver, bronze, and iron to God’s treasury. These metals represent the nations in Daniel 2:32, 33, which are described as “beasts” in Daniel 7. The Achan Doctrine, then, is the belief that God should not restore all things to Himself.

Hence, we entered the divine court and repented for the sin of Achan in the church, so that we would be able to win the Battle of Ai without suffering casualties. We did not want to see a repeat of Israel’s problem in Joshua 7:4, 5.

I believe that the present situation with the FBI’s raid on the office of Michael Cohen forms a large part of this Battle of Ai. Because our divine court appeal was heard earlier, I believe that this raid will only carry the appearance of a disaster. It will not be an actual disaster, at least not in the long run. This is consistent with Q’s confidence in the midst of this apparent disaster.


The storm after the calm

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/04-2018/the-storm-after-the-calm/

Apr 10, 2018
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On October 5, 2017, the first day of the feast of Tabernacles, President Trump posed for cameras in a group picture and explained cryptically, “Maybe it’s the calm before the storm.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...torm/738185001/

When asked to explain “the storm,” Trump just said, “You’ll find out.”

A few weeks later, Q began posting on the anonymous posting site, 8chan. Q first referenced “The calm before the storm” in post #38 and #48, both on November 2, 2017 but gave no indication as to what it was. But on November 21 Q explains the movie by the same title, saying,

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Shadow war.
Act II, Scene IV.
(Movie idea—Thoughts?)
(Characters)
Good guy (pilot of helicopter).
Bad guy (pilot of plane).
Targets (on ground and in home).
(Story)
Upon receipt of the ‘go’ code –Good guy flies during a blackout window provided by unknown agency w/unknowns (ordinary people by the look of it) to a select location (re: highly classified mission) who was given the ‘go’ order by ‘x’ to execute (delivery – (3) for care_). Bad guy intercepts message due to rogue operator embedded in tactical observation unit and takes out Good guy by top down invisible attack.
Mission failure.
Encore: What has since occurred by Targets?


https://qanon.pub/

So this is an “Encore,” a repeat of the same story, only in reverse. (It is “Act II.”) In the first run of the movie, the bad guys won, and the good guy was taken out by an invisible attack from above. The last statement is:

“Encore: What has since occurred by Targets?”

The “Targets” are the good guys who failed in the first mission, because they were “targeted” by the powers-that-be. So what has occurred since then? How have things changed? It appears that the good guys are now better prepared and have positioned their own people in key positions of power—often by posing as bad guys who support the Deep State.

On January 21, 2018 Q posted: “FEAR THE STORM.” (post 541). This was just a few weeks after Geoffrey Berman had been appointed US Attorney in New York. He is the one who is at the heart of yesterday’s raid on Michael Cohen’s office and home.

If Q had Berman in mind, then he may have been connecting the “Storm” to “Stormy Daniels,” who became the excuse for the search warrant.

I have a theory.

The “Storm” is the general war going on for the future of the USA that will affect the world. The heart of the “Storm” is specifically Stormy Daniels, the [censored] star who now claims that she had a sexual encounter with Donald Trump in 2006 and was paid $130,000 by Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen to keep silent.

News stories involving such explosive material are seldom more than a report of cover stories for public consumption. There is always something underneath that is not being said. In light of Trump’s cryptic statement last October, it seems highly coincidental that she would call herself Stormy Daniels and that she would surface a few months later.

Trump claims that “it never happened.” Was he lying? Why, then, was she paid $130,000 to keep silent? On the surface, it seems that Trump himself is lying.

But if this was part of a long-term strategy by elements in the intelligence and military community, it may be that this was a setup from the beginning—sort of a “sting” operation against the Deep State, while making the Deep State believe that they really had something on Trump.

My theory is that at some unknown point in time, one of the white-hat good guys approached Trump and recruited him to run for president. He would be their front man and visible face, so to speak—as virtually all presidents have been for more than a century.

When Trump agreed to this, these people behind the scenes recruited Stormy Daniels to be part of the plan, arranging a meeting between her and Trump in front of security cameras to make it appear that they had had a sexual encounter. That way, Trump could later say truthfully, “It never happened,” while at the same time there was strong circumstantial evidence that it did happen--because it was set up for that very purpose.

Ten years later, in 2016, Trump’s lawyer, who was in on the plan, paid $130,000 to Stormy Daniels, supposedly to pay for her silence. The paper agreement, of course, was not signed by Trump, so technically, she was not legally bound to remain silent. That seems like a very unlikely mistake—in fact, a terrible mistake—on the part of Trump’s otherwise brilliant lawyer. But was it really a mistake, or part of a carefully devised plan?

In my theory, let’s say that when the time was right, Stormy Daniels contacted certain Democratic leaders, who passed on her story to their cohorts in the Deep State. Everyone is ecstatic about this new revelation, thinking they can finally bring down Trump. Of course, they have to hope that everyone has long forgotten the many sexual escapades of former president Bill Clinton. But then, Americans have short memories, as they all know.

So finally, Stormy Daniels goes public after being promised free lawyers and more than enough money to replace the $130,000 that she might have to repay Michael Cohen for breaking her silence. The interview is assigned to Anderson Cooper, a long-time CIA agent, on March 8, 2018. He does not realize that [censored] stars are actors and actresses, too.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/08/media/stormy-daniels-anderson-cooper/index.html

Anderson Cooper was recruited under the CIA’s “Operation Mockingbird,” a long time ago, an allegation which he himself does not deny.

https://www.intellihub.com/cnns-anderson...y-surprise-you/

But Cooper does not know that he has been set up by Trump backers as a big sting operation known as “The Storm.” He thinks he is helping to overthrow Trump, when in fact, he is being exposed as an agent for the CIA. This will implicate him in numerous crimes when the CIA itself is exposed as being behind the takeover of the US government after the Kennedy assassination in 1963. Cooper will lose all credibility when the CIA’s role in creating ISIS is exposed.

The storm is now upon us in full fury. How it will end is not yet clear, but Q seems to think that everything is going according to plan. “Trust the plan,” he says. He further tells us to trust all of the directors of the agencies whom Trump has appointed, but with whom Trump seems to be at odds. Publicly, they work against Trump, and Trump fumes against them. But Q says that all of them can be trusted—except, of course, for Robert Mueller, who (presumably) will go down in flames before this is over.

How long will it take before we start seeing high-profile arrests that have been promised?

No one can say for sure, but Q hints at it, saying, “April showers.” That is a reference to the saying, “April showers bring May flowers.” In other words, the events in April ought to come to fruition in May. He has already said (on April 3, 2018, post #998) that the “Pope will be having a terrible May.”

Perhaps the Pope will not be alone.

At least in theory.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/16/18 04:05 PM

My comment : Good report of the current situation in Syria. He's also reading and using QAnon informative posts in his analysis of the situation.

X22 Report … “What You See & Hear Is Not What Is Happening, Troop Withdrawal On Track”

Episode 1545
4-14-18

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/18/18 02:43 AM

My comment : Good historical overview of the Chinese war with the US that started around the end of the 1700s (if my memory is correct). Jim Willie briefly mentions about WWII and 911 when US betrays the Chinese by not honoring repayments of gold deals. Jim focus is mostly on what is happening these past 20 or so years. Jim believe it will take some time for the whole restructure to be totally implemented but the Chinese has basically already won the war. I think Jim is on the right mind tract.

Longstanding Chinese War: Intrigue and Betrayal

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1523563200.php

April 12, 2018

Quote:
For those who believe the conflict, confrontation, and trade war with China is very recent and fresh, not true. The war of words and sabre rattling is part of a longstanding trade war between the two superpowers. The war with China has been brewing for many years, with much hidden in the background battles over legacy USTreasury Bonds and hidden Gold stores. The United States does not publicize this conflict, since the US actions are full of dishonor, deceit, fraud, and murders within the secret war. To begin with, Washington officials have steadfastly refused to honor high valued old bonds backed by gold, claiming they are very old. The US goons have been murdering both owners and attorneys for those who represent large scale Asian claims. The US has shot down aircraft carrying gold bullion hoards. In doing so, the US has acted with great dishonor, more like a criminal organization that a legitimate government. Dishonesty is the common thread and common theme. One should expect none else since the US lineage of presidents since 1988 has been comprised of narco baron leaders. The battles between the United States and China go way back. Let us trace some of the key events in just the last twenty years. Prepare to read a spy novel outline, except in our realm of reality. It puts the US in very bad light, with extreme criminality, marred by dishonor.

Today’s trade war battles between the US and China have captured global attention. Imagine the extreme stupidity of a major debtor nation kicking the shins and groin of its major creditor. Such is the reckless folly of the Wall Street banks, which control the USGovt since 9/11. The trade war focuses upon aluminum, steel, and intellectual property. The Untied States have already lost the early rounds. The US lost a large grain deal to Russia. The US lost a large soybean deal to Brazil. The US corporations are largely shut out of Belt & Road Initiative projects, given a minor role. The Chinese are dumping USTreasury Bonds at a faster rate. Notable rumblings have occurred in both the South China Sea and in North Korea. Harken back to the long sequence of events in the ongoing trade war with China. It had been financial in nature up until recent months. It has been a longstanding trade war.

TUNGSTEN-LACED GOLD BARS

The Clinton-Bush team during the late 1990 decade began exporting tungsten salted gold bars to the Hong Kong banks. Refer to several hundred fake bars, perhaps a couple thousand. It was a grand project, which involved the narco gangsters buying a gold refinery in Canada. Then they operated it 24x7 at 365 days per year. They used the same Arkansas and Panama channels that had been relied upon with narcotics trafficking for many years. The motive was to undermine the Hong Kong banks, since expected to soon become more tightly integrated with the Chinese banks after loosening ties to the British banks. In the last several years, the USGovt has been actively working toward some form of agreed upon restitution. The US goons got caught red-handed. It is easily seen in the giant pink thumb from the USDept Commerce reports. See the line item of Industrial Metal Supplies shipments, nicely hidden but easily noticed. The monthly $2 to $4 billion in the reports has no place in typical commercial transactions, pure bogus.

HONG KONG INDEPENDENCE

The Hong Kong independence deal in 1999 had numerous sides, angles, and twists. Most have not been revealed, since criminal organizations do not show their dealings. The part that most Westerners do not realize is that the Chinese have granted significant autonomy to the Hong Kong regional officials. The Beijing leaders in the Middle Kingdom see HK as a laboratory to learn from, whose continuity they permit. The HK side continues much as before, with very little having changed, almost nothing altered. The big issue nowadays is maintenance of the HKDollar peg with the USDollar. It seems to be breaking down, which could lead to a sudden rise by 30% in the HKD exchange rate. For the last several years, the tight peg has resulted in $billions in funds moved from China to HK banks. While profitable for their banks, price inflation for the people has resulted, along with significant property price increases. Instability has arrived.

US GOLD LEASE

Around the time of the Hong Kong independence, the United States was embroiled in the tech-telecom bust of 2000. The stock market was in shock. The new millennium effect was ripping the financial market apart. The US housing market was set to endure yet another powerful damaging recession. Thus USFed Chairman Sir Alan Greenspan decided to deploy desperate measures. He concluded the Untied States could not successful overcome a stock crash and housing crash in sequence. He pulled out all the stops with a sudden interest rate cut. But he engineered something else, of extreme importance. It was a key event nowhere in the news. The publicity was given to the plan to industrialize China with direct foreign investment in the tens of $billions, which did happen. From 2001 to 2003 alone, the US & Canada invested over $23 billion from its corporations. But under the surface, an important transaction took place, one given zero attention.

The USGovt leased around 5000 tonnes gold to continue the USDollar great game. After the tech-telecom stock bust, the US was very vulnerable. A housing crash would have caused a powerful recession, and possibly a USDollar decline of significance. The US actually faced a potential depression threat. So the USGovt via its Wall Street bank handlers worked an agreement to lease a large tract of Chinese gold. Knowing the dishonor endemic throughout the Washington political culture, the Beijing leaders protected themselves with marquee property as collateral, plus a massive IRS secure stream bond of unique type.

RENEGED GOLD LEASE

True to form, the USGovt reneged on the gold lease contract. No repayment or repatriation of gold bullion from the lease occurred. The Wall Street banks did not use the gold asset to secure the banking system, but rather sold it into the gold market. They saw urgent need to fortify the USDollar, done with large scale gold dumping of gold bullion that they did not own. The US has been stealing and leasing gold for a long time, to sell into the market so as to keep the USDollar game going. See Libya. See Saudi Arabia. See Ukraine. See Syria. Wreck tomorrow to secure today, according to the Rubin Doctrine. The USGovt betrayed the Chinese, evident by 2005. The Chinese Govt might have anticipated the betrayal with good lead time, since savvy. They USGovt has actually been dishonorable for several decades, as in not properly redeeming the older so-called legacy bonds. After the Clinton-Rubin gangsters stole the Fort Knox gold, no opportunity existed for honoring the legacy bonds. Criminal organizations loot the system, nothing new. The World Trade Center was probably the biggest bank heist in modern history after all, with gold, bearer bonds, and diamonds all pilfered amidst a demo of powerful weaponry. These are narcotics barons with a neo-nazi background, having infiltrated the entire Washington and New York financial system. They operated under the silly cover name of Neo-Conservative, as in neo-con. They looted the central banks during World War II. Using Operation Paperclip, they entered the United States by the hundreds. They gradually took control of power in Washington, and certain experimental offices in Langley. The publicity was given to Von Braun at NASA, an effective distraction.

UNRAVELED VATICAN LORD

The financial underpinning of the Chinese gold lease is the most difficult piece to put together in the puzzle. Gratitude to Rob Kirby and EuroRaj for their insights, suspicions, and extremely effective sniffing of the missing pieces which would make Sherlock Holmes proud. They observed a multi-$billion vacuum, noted a force field lacking a device, and concluded the formation of a financial vehicle which fits well with historical structures. By all appearances, the Chinese hired JPMorgan to set up an IRS tax secure stream in the form of a macro bond. It linked the Vatican, who have been US uber-lords for many decades. Imagine a lord & vassal relationship with origins at the US Civil War, with more formalized connections made at the Great Depression. The US was financially broke and the Vatican was wealthy. The key piece was the bond fashioned with the historical Satanic center of wealth accumulation over the last millennium. Enter China to brilliantly use the IRS macro bond as a gigantic leverage device, which was used to wrest control of critical pieces within the tattered US financial landscape. The confirmation was seen in the following sequence of events, none well told by the dutiful lapdog US press.

CHINESE CONFISCATIONS

Upon USGovt default on the gold lease contract terms, the US elite were forced to forfeit some crown jewels. The Chinese confiscated the JPMorgan HQ center, complete with skyscraper, office buildings, conference center, and the largest private gold vault in the entire West. It even connects to the New York Fed gold vault in underground tunnels. The deal was obscured by the usual downplay in the US press, but the main elements were easily identified. The JPM HQ complex was sold to a Chinese property conglomerate for perhaps 20% to 30% of its true value. Commercial property analysts noted the price anomaly, but they moved onto other stories. The Jackass fixated on the anomaly, and dug deeper, making inferences on missing gaps. Never is a multi-$billion gap without a hidden big story and important element to discover. Combine the Chinese confiscation of the primary iconic US bank, with wrested control of the Intl Monetary Fund, and one can see the new dominant player in China. Since 2015, the USGovt has failed to make its annual payment to the IMF coffers. China has made its annual payment, and in so doing, has taken control of policy.

CHINA & FANNIE MAE

China was enraged at the USGovt failure to return leased gold in high volume. The Beijing officials rendered a significant favor to the Washington tarnished players. But they protected themselves with the property held in collateral backed by the Wall Street icon itself, and in the owned IRS macro bonds backed by income taxes of 150 million US citizen taxpayers. The reneged gold lease was a major turning point in US-Chinese relations. It was a grand F.U. and flipped bird on the back stages of geopolitical finance. It demonstrated to the Chinese that the USGovt was run by a criminal organization. So China went to work in 2005 and 2006. They dumped Fannie Mae bonds in vengeance. The official news reported that the Beijing financial officials had decided to focus upon USTreasurys, with the untold part being a discharge of Fannie Mae bonds. The US press remains dutiful, reporting the obvious, but neglected the critically important items. The Chinese held a few hundred $billion in US Agency Bonds, the mortgage backed securities with a USGovt guarantee. Few bond analysts attach the link of what was to come in the following year with a Chinese lit fuse.

LEHMAN TRIGGERS FINANCIAL CRISIS

By late 2006, it was clear that the US was suffering from a subprime bond problem. It was mushrooming into a financial crisis. The attention was given to poor reckless loan underwriting, to false credit ratings given to bonds, to hidden toxic tranches within bonds, to improper prospectuses issued by banks as brokers, to synthetic bond vehicles, to the MERS title database laced with fraud, to multiple (duplicate) secure streams on home loans, to false mortgage loan rates within the market, and more. The entire Wall Street set of banks were vulnerable, including JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs. Finally, the Lehman Brothers event with full blown subprime bond crisis erupted. The hidden element was that China lit the fuse one or two years earlier, by starting a bond sale exodus. The climax came when JPM and GSachs bought a few $billion in mortgage bonds from Lehman Brothers, but never paid them. The dutiful US financial press reported the event as a run of the mill Lehman financial failure. It was a suffocation event by two killers. However, Lehman had been targeted by the USGovt power brokers. Like Bear Stearns earlier, Lehman was short the USDollar and long Gold. They were killed by the dynamic duo which run the USGovt financial offices. With the scuttling of AIG by the criminal duo, the stage was set for Goldman Sachs to receive 100 cents on the dollar for its failed mortgage bonds, an event in resolution for bond insurance with no precedent. The other poor suckers received between 35 and 70 cents per dollar. The Lehman failure (kill job) set off the biggest global financial crisis in several decades, one which was yet seen a recovery.

No remedy has even been attempted. We have seen Zero Interest Rate Policy. We have seen Quantitative Easing, done by the USFed, by the Euro Central Bank, and by the Bank of Japan. We have seen expanded official financial support for corporate bonds, for the stock market, and for crude oil contracts. We have seen reckless credit extension again. We have thus witnessed the entire sovereign bond sector become subprime, led by the USTBond market. It is supported by hyper monetary inflation and hidden derivative machinery. Finally we have seen a global rebellion against the USDollar, led by China and the East. The end result will be a gradual stepwise return to the Gold Standard.

CHINA DUMPS LONG-TERM TREASURYS

Move forward another three years, for the next important even in the bilateral financial trade war between Beijing and Washington. The Chinese were still disgusted at the reneged gold lease. They triggered the Lehman event and the global financial crisis which has actually engulfed the King Dollar and its court (central banks). The Chinese were preparing for the property confiscation, which took time. So they announced a tactical maneuver to dump long-term USTreasury Bonds, and to hold the short-term USTreasury Bills instead. The dutiful US press cited the story merely as a preference by China for short-term USGovt securities. They planned to hold to maturity in an easier dumping exercise. To accommodate the Chinese, the USFed announced Operation Twist, which was not to be confused with QE in hyper monetary inflation of the unsterilized variety. Instead, the Chinese were assisted in their swaps of long-term USTBonds for short-term USTBills. The USFed bought their 10-year and 30-year USTreasurys, employing the very same derivative machinery so heavily relied upon in the great bond shell game. With absent buyers of USTBonds, the main buyers have been JPMorgan with their Interest Rate Swap derivative contracts. The point not mentioned much in the financial press is that China uses short-term USTBills in financing the construction of oil pipelines, as well as many other big construction projects like bridges, railways, port facilities, and factories. It is called Indirect Exchange, as in two foreign parties using the USD-based securities as cash, when the US is not involved in the transactions. The preferred Indirect Exchange currency is short-term USTBills, the same as used in giant oil payments in trade.

CONSTRUCTION OF NEW NON-USD SYSTEM

The Chinese response to the USGovt betrayals, to the US financial system insolvency, to the USGovt preference for war as a geopolitical policy tool, has been to build a new competing system. It is not focused upon the USDollar in basis. It includes the BRICS Development Bank, the Asian Infra-structure Investment Bank, the Asian Development Fund, the Shanghai Coop Organization, the Chinese Interbank Payment System (competitor to SWIFT), and the entire Belt & Road Initiative. The BRI is the most aggressive ambitious construction and development program in more than a century, perhaps five times greater than the Marshall Plan following World War II. At present, the massive BRI projects total on the order of $8 trillion, exactly none contracted or settled in USD terms. The Chinese could not move away from the USD-based system without having an alternative system in place, one with a powerful structure, with critical mass in participation, with a basis leading to the Gold Standard. Many will be the steps in the progression toward restoring the Gold Standard. It will begin with trade payments in gold, then comes bank reserves moving from USTBonds in favor of Gold bullion, and finally the arrival of gold-backed currencies. The biggest most important financial event since 1971 just occurred, the Shanghai completion of the Gold-Oil-RMB futures contract triangle. Oil is essentially backed by Gold, and the oil sales can be completed in RMB terms. Next watch for Saudi oil sales to China paid in RMB terms.

DEATH KNELL FOR THE PETRO-DOLLAR

The Petro-Dollar death knell has been sounded, but time will be required in order for the process to play out. Next comes the emergence of the Dual Universe, where the USD Sphere will continue its dominant role, but where the RMB Sphere will be permitted to become established and to grow. The Chinese Yuan (RMB) will be tolerated, insulted, and obstructed, but to no avail. The RMB will expand in usage, become more internationalized, with a soon to be announced capital account, followed by more global debt issuance. Watch for Panda Bonds, like for Italian Govt debt. Watch for the London Centre to participate in Panda Bonds. The Chinese own over 30 thousand tonnes in gold reserves, and the Russians have an equal tonnage of gold reserves. The R&C power pair are preparing for the Gold Standard, while the US will be left with their golden pants down by their war-torn shoes.

The USGovt and US Big Banks and USMilitary cannot stop the process. The USDollar will lose its monopoly as global currency reserve. The USMilitary has already lost its full spectrum dominance. The process will see the USD gradually lose market share in trade payments, while the process will also see the USTreasury Bond gradually lose reserve asset share in the global banking system. The USGovt debt is exploding past the $21 trillion level. The global confidence in the USDollar is fading fast. The USEconomy is recognized as lacking industrial capacity to a critical degree. The $600 billion US trade deficit is a financial straitjacket. The stage is set for Gold taking a greater role in global finance generally. Watch central banks load up on gold quietly. The gold price a few years from now will be multiples higher. The Basel gangsters at the BIS will make certain of it, since their main vassal central banks are loaded to the gills with toxic sovereign bonds.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/18/18 04:38 PM

My commment : Looks like their was no chemical attack in Douma. Another false flag operation from Mystery[secret] Babylon to hope to start WWIII. The nations has seen too many of those propaganda from the presstitutes and now investigates or wait to see for evidences.

Famed War Reporter Robert Fisk Reaches Syrian 'Chemical Attack' Site, Concludes "They Were Not Gassed"

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-1...-concludes-they

April 17, 2018
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/18/18 10:34 PM

My comment : Here is the witness of the hospital personnel in Douma, Syria that testify their were no chemical attack. The "White Helmets" created the panic by screaming "chemical attack" and rush the people into the hospital. So the hospital treated the large panic mode crowd in the assumption there were a chemical attack by firstly hosing with water the people and assessing any triggered already existed diseased because of the fear from panicking and some suffocating conditions because of bad air quality, some smoke from outside ... all in a small enclosure filled with lots of people. And the whole thing was filmed without them knowing it. The captured film was used to spread false news when it was all along a staged operation.

Douma Chemical Attack Was Staged: This Short Video Proves it

April 17, 2018
https://www.sott.net/article/383167-Douma-Chemical-Attack-Was-Staged-This-Short-Video-Proves-it
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/19/18 02:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
From Benjamin Fulford April 9th 2018 report :
Wait!
Will the real Benjamin Fulford please stand up. I assumed this was the same one as of Forerunner Chronicles but youtube shows a white guy. I had accepted what you were posting, but see now I should question more like your slick willie and gods-kingdom stuff.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/19/18 08:33 PM

My comment : Two more QAnon comments from Stephen Jones below.
1. The War Front : is about "The Raid" in Trumps lawyers office, what Q and Trump means with "April Showers" (Syria bombing); and "the Missile Attack on Chem plants".

2. The end of the War : is about "The Battle of Ai" and how it relates to the manifestation on earth via Trumps Syria missile attack with QAnon clues that prevented the Babylonian's WWIII attempt; and QAnon "BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM!!!!!" meaning that "The Deep State is about to be expose".

1. The war front

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/04-2018/the-war-front/

April 16th, 2018

Quote:
Any Jericho battle is hardly a complete and full manifestation of the biblical pattern apart from a harlot’s manifestation. The original story featured Rahab in a positive light—a harlot with faith. Mystery Babylon, the apocalyptic version of Jericho, pictures the entire city as the great harlot without any trace of hope. Hope is seen only by extrapolation, where the people enslaved to the great harlot are set free at last.

More recently, as I have written in detail elsewhere, Hillary Clinton was a classic type of Jezebel and Mystery Babylon when she fell on 9-11-2016. This came five years after our Jericho March around the St. Paul-Minneapolis metroplex in 2011. By the Hezekiah Factor, this Jericho battle in 2011 turned the clock back 10 years to 9-11-01 and from there established a 15-year extension of life to 2016.

These biblical patterns are rerun many times in history. There does not seem to be a single fulfillment to them, only a climactic fulfillment.

More recently, we discerned another Jericho battle forming during the time of Unleavened Bread (April 1-6, 2018). This time Stormy Daniels appeared on the scene as the harlot of Jericho. It is now clear that President Trump’s team had already been planning her debut since last October when he told reporters, “It’s the calm before the storm.”

“What storm?” the reporters asked.

“You’ll see.” Trump replied.

A few weeks later, Q began posting on an anonymous channel and again mentioned the storm that was coming. I wrote about this last week. He never gave any hints as to the nature of the storm, but neither did he show any sense of concern or panic. We were just told to “trust the plan.”

In other words, this storm was all part of the plan, and when it hit, we were to understand that things were not as they seemed. In fact, much of what Trump says in public has been a ruse, designed to keep his enemies off guard or to cause them to underestimate him. All of that bravado talk about North Korea’s “rocket man” was a cover for Trump’s secret meeting with Kim Jong Un in China, preparing for peace. While most people thought Trump was trying to start WW3 with Korea, he was actually taking concrete steps to prevent it.

Likewise, on the surface, it seems as though every Trump appointee has turned against him. So Trump rants against Jeff Sessions (DOJ) and Christopher Wray (FBI). Either Trump is a bumbling idiot who cannot seem to appoint the right people, or there is a deeper plan afoot. Again, Q tells us consistently, “Trust Sessions” and “Trust Wray,” even if they give the appearance of working against Trump.

It is clear that things are not what they appear on the surface. There is a lot of misdirection, deception, and illusion going on. At the same time, Trump is being careful not to lie outright.


The Raid

On Monday, April 9 the FBI with a go-ahead from Attorney General Jeff Sessions, seemed to defy all logic by raiding the office and home of Michael Cohen, who is Trump’s personal lawyer. Supposedly, they were looking for information that might incriminate Trump in the payoff of Stormy Daniels back in 2007. The excuse is that Trump’s lawyer may have used campaign money to pay her off, which is illegal.

Of course, the Feds came and took every file, so they are now able to see all the deals that Trump made over the years. Trump himself fumed, calling it “disgraceful.” Certainly, it was highly unprecedented. They never did that when the Clinton Foundation was being investigated. Q denounces it briefly, and then returns to business as usual. Apparently, Q is unconcerned.

What if this raid had been planned from the start? With usual misdirection, what if the purpose of the raid was not to see who paid off Stormy Daniels, but to hand over other files to the FBI for scrutiny? I don’t mean files about Trump. I mean files that Trump himself had gathered.

Would not Trump have a file on Hillary Clinton proving that she is indeed a criminal, as Trump stated more than once on the campaign trail? If such files did exist, where would Trump store them? Perhaps in the office of his personal lawyer where they would remain confidential?

On April 8, Q suddenly tells us that we should look up Trump’s relationship with John F. Kennedy, Jr., who died in a plane crash on July 16, 1999. His wife and her sister also died.

Originally Posted By: Q
POTUS & JFK JR.
Relationship.
Plane crash 1999.
HRC Senate 2000.
The “Start.”
Enjoy the show.
Q

The plane crash is now history.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/jfk-jr-killed-in-plane-crash

Kennedy had been contemplating a run for the senate seat in New York—the same seat that Hillary Clinton needed as her launching pad toward an eventual run for president. Does Trump have evidence that would implicate her in this plane crash? If so, what would be the flashiest way to turn over that evidence to the FBI and DOJ?

Q seems to imply that this plane crash was Trump’s “Start.” The start of what? Perhaps it is what really opened his eyes to the seriousness of this political competition. I suggest that this is when he learned just how serious Hillary was in her pursuit of the presidency. She could not afford to lose the Senate race, but if JFK, Jr ran against her, she did not think she could win.

Something had to be done. What she did not realize was that Kennedy’s friend, Donald Trump, would take his place and ultimately destroy her chances to be president.


April Showers

On March 29, as we were getting ready for our Passover conference, Trump announced that American troops would soon be leaving Syria. As far as I recall, that was the first time anyone had confirmed officially the presence of US troops in Syria. “Conspiracy theorists” have known this for a very long time, of course, and were ridiculed for disbelieving the official US line (lie). As for me, as long as the government grants itself the right to lie, I grant myself the right not to believe anything they say without solid proof.

Trump’s announcement should have been good news for the Assad regime, seeing how the US has been supporting most of the rebels. A US withdrawal would have been a mark of victory, showing that he could outlast the US with the help of Russia. But a few days later, on April 3, Assad was said to have perpetrated another gas attack on innocent people, including many children.

Is Assad really that stupid? Does he want the US to remain in Syria? Well, someone does, and I don’t think it’s Assad. How could a gas attack on children possibly have any strategic value to Assad? Would it not rather have value to those who oppose a US withdrawal?

A similar event occurred about a year earlier, when a chemical attack took place. Assad was already winning the war quite handily with Russian help. Russia had been bombing the bejeebies out of ISIS since September of 2015 and had driven them out of most of the territory. Assad, being a complete idiot, decided to use sarin gas against civilians, which gave him absolutely no strategic advantage but only weakened his international stature.

Trump expressed his usual outrage in public, knowing that he would be forced to respond in some manner. But it is obvious that Trump knew that Assad was not the real culprit, because he only bombed an abandoned airfield and miscellaneous low-value targets. In fact, Trump began to plan a way to end the war in Syria without publicizing its origin in the Pentagon.

Trump is caught in a delicate situation. He wants to “make America great again,” which means to extract us from numerous situations where the CIA and military have fomented trouble in order to make those countries dependent upon us. It’s no different from the mafia shaking down a store owner for monthly “protection insurance.” Trump’s job is to extract us from those situations without exposing the US actions to the world.

It appears, then, that he and his team hit upon a plan to do a repeat performance in Syria this month. First he announced his intention to withdraw US forces, knowing that the Deep State, lacking imagination, would go with their usual “gas attack” plan. Trump then played along, as if he believed that Assad were an “animal.” Is it not amazing how Trump immediately believes the Fakestream Media when it is convenient?

On the same day that the latest Syrian gas attack took place (April 3), Q posted for the first time, “April Showers.” No one knew if this was connected to “the storm” or if it was just something that would “bring May flowers.” It turned out to be shower of missiles. In other words, Q was telling us that from the moment the gas attack occurred, there would be a military response.

It looked like Trump had been fooled into starting World War 3. Commentators began to panic. Alarmed Trump supporters began to denounce his decision. Obviously, these did not “trust the plan.”

Q even provided us (covertly) with a time line for the missile attack. On Tuesday April 10, he posted,

Originally Posted By: Q
Testify then drop.
We have it all.
These people are stupid.
Fireworks.


Notice the first letter of each line. Each identifies a day of the week: Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Friday the 13th is “Fireworks” day, the day of the missile attack. Q asks many times, “Do you believe in coincidences?”

Good investigators do not like coincidences. Coincidences are like chicken bones caught in their throats and are like thorns in their sides. They must be removed at some point.

The Missile Attack on Chem Plants

Trump’s missile attack targeted chemical facilities where the gas was said to have originated in the recent chlorine attack. No civilian casualties were reported—a remarkable feat, considering the sheer number of missiles sent into Syria. But wait, did the US suddenly receive new intelligence about these chemical factories? Why did we not hear of their existence earlier? We were all under the impression that these were “underground” facilities run by Assad’s troops.

There is nothing like a good missile attack to help us correct our misperception.

After lengthy sieges, the Syrian army finally took control of East Ghouta on April 12 and Douma on April 14. In both places, rebel controlled chemical factories were found, built by German and French companies. The US missile attacks obliterated those factories, presumably to destroy Assad’s ability to use such chemicals, but more likely because these were now a public embarrassment. At any rate, with the factories destroyed, any evidence was destroyed as well.

If any cannisters of sarin or chlorine gas had remained at those sites, the missiles would have released clouds of gas upon the remaining population. There are no reports of such forthcoming.



2. The end of the war

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/04-2018/the-end-of-the-war/

April 17th, 2018
Quote:
Last night our Father said that the present warfare had ended—in victory, of course. We had overcome in every area necessary. I am still unclear as to the precise relationship between the heavenly war and earthly events. I only know that it has much to do with the biblical pattern of the battle of Ai.

The story of Ai itself is found in Joshua 7 and 8. In Joshua 7 the battle went against Israel on account of the leaven in the camp through the sin of Achan. In Joshua 8, after purging the leaven from their midst, God gave Israel the victory over Ai. In conclusion, Joshua built an altar to God in Mount Ebal (Joshua 8:30). He used uncut stones, as the law had commanded (Exodus 20:25).

Then he wrote the law (Ten Commandments, no doubt) on those stones (Joshua 8:32), renewing the covenant with Israel that had been broken by the sin of Achan.

That is the simplified story of events at that time.

In our day, of course, foreseeing another pattern of Jericho and Ai coming in April, we petitioned the divine court to get ahead of the original Ai problem in order to avoid the same kind of trouble seen in the original pattern under Joshua. Hence, on the final afternoon of the Passover conference, we were led to pray a prayer of repentance ahead of time.

The question is whether or not an established biblical pattern can actually be avoided. Can the fractal be changed as it repeats its patterns later? The answer is not yet fully clear, so I would have to say, “yes and no.” The upside is that God is God, and He has the wisdom to make things impossible and then go ahead and do the impossible. Hence, this past week has been of particular interest to me, because we are delving more deeply into the intricate mind of God.

What I have learned so far is that it requires greater sacrifice to change a divine pattern like this. The prayer of repentance at the conference triggered a new set of consequences that we were unaware of at the time. We knew that our prayer was answered, but we did not know that a greater price would have to be paid to avoid an Ai defeat and to move directly to victory.

Let’s back up a bit and give the overall context…


Time of Cleansing

Our second 76-day cycle of cleansing began on January 30 and ended April 13. The Jericho battle, within this context, was fought during the seven days of Unleavened Bread, April 1-6, as we approached the end of the cleansing period.

The sin of Achan violated the command of God to remove leaven out of the house, for in bringing that which had been devoted to God into his house, Achan’s house was leavened. And since he was in fellowship with the rest of the houses in Israel, the principle of unity implicated the whole nation. The nation itself was leavened, and as a result, Israel could not win the next small battle of Ai.

The point is that the main theme of this Ai battle has been about cleansing. Upon inquiry, the Father said that this battle began on April 13, as we reached the end of the 76-day cleansing cycle. The implication is that Ai somehow extended the time of cleansing 3 days beyond the normal 76 days, ending finally last night, April 16.

I was required to stand in the gap during this time—and perhaps others as well—engaged in a cleansing fast from April 11 to the present time. What I experienced in this time of sickness was first a need for cleansing, second, a realization how leaven in the body (or camp) has a huge affect on us, and third, how a price must always be paid. When Jesus broke the established pattern of Adam (death), a price had to be paid.

Yes, Jesus paid it all on the cross, but He had always required us to enter into the fellowship of His sufferings (Philippians 3:10), so that we gain an experiential understanding of what He did for us. Jesus has died to save everyone, but the overcomers are those who understand Him by going through some of the same things that He did. He is not just looking to save everyone. He is looking for people who see Him on the cross—and understand because of shared experience.

For this reason, not only was Jesus a lamb led to the slaughter but “For Thy sake we are being put to death all day long; we were considered as sheep to be slaughtered” (Romans 8:36). Paul well understood this principle of fellowship with the Lamb of God, for his back was well scarred, having been beaten five times with 39 stripes. That is 195 scars from the whip.

Getting back to the present time, we all enter into Christ’s fellowship of sufferings in different ways. We all die daily, and we all experience adversity from the world and religious system. We all go through false accusation. We all go through various aspects of Christ’s experience in order that we may know Him and the power of His resurrection (victory).

My present case is hardly worthy of comparison to Paul’s experience or even to most of the great martyrs of history. The point is that regardless of how great or insignificant our suffering is, it is always based upon the same spiritual principle.

In the midst of bodily weakness, I found that my spirit was opened up to see things quite clearly. I saw most clearly that when I was weak, then I was strong, almost as if bodily weakness was a mirror image of spiritual strength. The warfare was intense, but I was in a state of peace and strength. Whatever strength was in my spirit was reflected in the angelic hosts as they fought the forces of darkness, making my bodily weakness even more meaningful and necessary.

Today I awoke in full recovery and came to the office feeling full of life. It was very clear that the battle had ended, as the Father said last night. Even so, I am still required to fast today. I suspect, however, that seven days will complete the cleansing fast, sort of as a counterpart to the seven days of Unleavened Bread that was violated by Achan, which caused the Ai problem. Tonight I will inquire of the Lord to see if that is the case.

I still do not have a clear understanding of how we were able to rise above the established biblical pattern of disaster at Ai. That will take some revelation to understand how the wisdom of God was able to accomplish that without violating His law. But I do know that much was accomplished this past week, which will be more evident in time. I still lack the connecting links between spiritual events and their earthly counterparts, so I cannot say exactly how this warfare has changed things on earth. If we see some breakthrough in current events, that may give us some indication.


Final Analysis

The coincidence of timing seems to indicate a starting point in our understanding. The battle began April 13, the end of the 76-day cleansing cycle, and that same night the missiles were launched against the chemical companies and “research centers” in Syria. This seems to indicate that the battle of Ai (“ruinous heap”) played out in reducing the chemical centers to piles of rubble.

Trump accomplished this without instigating World War 3, as many were predicting. No Russian assets were targeted, nor did the Russians try to shoot down any of the missiles. Trump’s apparent careless bravado with the Russians, as with North Korea earlier, seems to indicate that he has already come to a prior arrangement with Putin. We know that candidate Trump showed great respect for Putin, and the feelings were mutual. But such respect also became a political liability to Trump once he began as president, for it was used to suggest “Russian collusion.” Hence, Trump has turned 180 degrees and now consistently rants against Putin.

Frankly, I think it is all a show, and both presidents know it. So I would not be concerned about the rhetoric causing World War 3. The rhetoric is not designed to destroy the world, but to prevent its destruction by a great ruse (pun intended).

Now that the chemical war has ended, Q is opening up a new line of hints, suggesting that certain members of the Deep State are about to be exposed (finally). Most of us have been aware of the overwhelming evidence of their crimes, but it appears that our spiritual warfare may have made it possible to release that evidence. So Q says early this morning, April 17,

Originally Posted By: Q
RR.
Boom.
Q


RR is Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General under Jeff Sessions. I suspect that he is the “Achan” lodged in the Department of Justice. He may be the first to be exposed and fired. While Q has always told us to “Trust Sessions,” we are never asked to trust Rosenstein.

About 5 minutes later, Q posted again:

Originally Posted By: Q
BOOM.
BOOM.
BOOM.
BOOM!!!!!
Q


In the past, such “booms” have usually meant news bombshells exposing Deep State operatives that have often resulted in people getting fired. So this may indicate that there are 4 or 5 people who are about to be exposed and thereby fall from power, in the same manner that Andrew McCabe fell last month.

So we see four “booms,” but must also consider the 5 exclamation points at the end. Everything has meaning to Q. Everything is a hint. Watch for more political exposures that will continue the housecleaning, purging of leaven.

Meanwhile, the FBI (under Director Christopher Wray) is sifting through all of the confiscated files of Michael Cohen, Trump’s personal lawyer. They do not realize that they have brought in a Trojan Horse. I believe that Trump was storing personal investigative files against Hillary and perhaps others at Cohen’s office, and these will have to be acknowledged.

So today Q post says:

Originally Posted By: Q
WRAYs of LIGHT.
Q


Since Q has already told us to Trust Wray, we can be sure that the FBI is now being set free to fire and ultimately to prosecute other Deep State operatives that have been involved in treasonous plots in attempting a coup against the president.

Perhaps our recent warfare has served to undercut the spiritual power of the Deep State, so that their operatives may be exposed for who they are. It will be interesting to watch.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/22/18 06:29 PM

My comment : Another good independent news video reporting from the White Helmet Headquarters.

A Look Inside The White Helmets Headquarters in Aleppo


April 18th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/383252-A-Look-Inside-The-White-Helmets-Headquarters-in-Aleppo
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/22/18 07:28 PM

My comment : I've been watching the journalist, Jordan Sather youtube video channel "Destroying the Illusion" since he began. He started to cover QAnon also when that became public.

The X22 report interviewed Jordan for the first time. I think its a pretty good interview where Jordan starts by describing who is QAnon, what is their goal and ways of disclosing information, that leads into the wars behind the scene between the Deep State and the White Hats (the good guys within the US Gov). They discuss about the how the White hats have access to all technology to track people down and are using it to track the Deep State, the 25000 indictments issued the last 6 months (usually 1000 a year), the big Nov 11 2018 coming parade that QAnon and Trumps talks about, the possibility of a coming mass arrest, and other plots.

Be Prepared For The Entire System To Go Dark For 2-3 Days:Jordan Sather

April 19th, 2018

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/24/18 09:59 PM

My comment : Currently the DNC wants to sue Russia, the Trump campaign, and Wikileaks for alleged collusion. They put it in a Federal lawsuit where major exposure and disclosure will be reveal. QAnon said that they took the bait... and this is going to be a major disclosure.

Stephen had posted about exposure and disclosure. And then today I've seen 3 other QAnon comments videos all talking about this coming exposure and disclosure. Below I'm posting only 2 of them.

Exposure and Disclosure

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/04-2018/exposure-and-disclosure/

April 18th, 2018

Quote:
When the Feds raided the office of Michael Cohen, Trump’s personal attorney, not a single objection was heard by any of the Democrats. So now the precedent has been set that an Attorney General is allowed to seize the private papers of anyone—including a sitting president. No longer does anyone enjoy attorney-client privilege. Or perhaps, more accurately, the conversations between an attorney and his client remain just that—a government-granted privilege, not a RIGHT TO PRIVACY.

I wonder if Hillary has an attorney. Rosenstein? John Brennan?

None of their records are secure any more. It is only a matter of time before their papers are seized. And when they are, they can no longer claim any right to privacy.

You see, the Supreme Court ruled more than a century ago that all rights come from God and that privileges are granted by governments. God-given rights were supposed to be defended by government, but privileges can be granted and removed at the discretion of the government.

But in the 1930’s, when America shifted from a Christian Republic to a Secular Democracy, a great revolution took place. God was dethroned and kicked out of government, leaving a power vacuum at the top, which the government immediately filled. Men’s government usurped the place of God that had been in place since the Declaration of Independence declared that the Creator alone was the Originator of human rights.

Since then we have seen an increasingly oppressive government imposed upon us, led by men who have claimed that God’s laws were oppressive. Our new government claims to set us free from the bondage of God’s law and into the glorious liberty of man’s laws. If this sounds like the story of ancient Israel, it is exactly the same spirit of rebellion, and the consequences can be no different, apart from divine intervention.

Fortunately for us, we have the promise of divine intervention, and it does not depend upon our support for “Israel,” which is caught up in the same rebellion. It depends solely upon our recognition of the rights of Jesus Christ to rule that which He has been given as the result of His work and death on the cross. No one gets a free pass on account of one’s genealogy, whether real or imagined. This is a legal matter, not biological. The law always trumps biology.

So as long as America remains in a state of rebellion against Jesus Christ, it is in danger of coming apart at the seams. It is a natural consequence of violating the laws of nature itself. Whether this occurs through a “natural” process where nature is seen to be self-correcting (the impersonal God view), or through divine intervention, which presents a personal God who judges from His throne, either way those consequences are surfacing.

Back on January 22, 1997, Jack Hodgdon was given the “Rock and Roll Prophecy” and 21 years later, we are seeing it come to pass. Jack recently reminded me of this by sending it to me again, so I thought it would be appropriate to repost it as a reminder to all of us of God’s purpose in causing this chaos in the US government.

Originally Posted By: Jack Hodgdon, 1997
Rock & Roll Prophecy

Not many days from now,
A mighty tumult I shall allow.
The government shall rock and roll,
Till everything shall be undone,
Till everything that I have said
In all the newspapers shall be read.

This nation shall quake and shake,
Fearfulness shall grip the heart,
Till Washington DC shall come apart.
Till every man’s sins shall be made bare,
Till all the truth shall be declared.
There will be no place for them to hide,
To run for shelter,
From how they’ve lied.
Like wood to the fire,
The truth shall be made known,
Till all is seen, till all is shown.


We are now well into the “tumult.” With the loss of attorney-client privilege at the whim of government officials, there is no longer any place to hide one’s sins. We have foolishly abandoned the only Source of human rights, replacing them with counterfeit rights that are actually only government-granted privileges. Now the government has shown that the right to privacy is just a privilege, after all, which can be removed if a government official wishes.

The intelligence organizations did away with any privacy long ago, easily side-stepping restrictions passed by congress. Whenever they wanted to spy on their own citizens, they simply moved their operations offshore, where those restrictions no longer applied. Or we asked other countries to spy on our own citizens, while we spied on theirs, and then shared information. It was all too easy, rendering legal restrictions virtually irrelevant.

Politicians did not seem to care, as long as the spy agencies were spying on someone else. Their continued use of cell phones and all things electronic show (as Q often says), “These people are stupid!” Whenever Bill or Hillary took trips to Epstein Island on the so-called “Lolita Express” (Epstein’s plane), every conversation was being recorded via their cell phone. Every perversion, every satanic ritual was recorded and time stamped.

They had nothing to worry about as long as the Satanists remained in control of this information. But a new sheriff is in town. New people are now in control of the information gathered by the spy agencies. This information is soon to be used against the Satanists and corrupt politicians themselves. However, they don’t want to dump too much on the American people, because they can’t handle too much truth at one time. Their minds will simply shut down and refuse to process it. Q tells us that this is the reason truth has been coming in “crumbs” over time.

But the Rock and Roll Prophecy suggests that full exposure/disclosure is coming and that this will be a time of sheer panic in Washington. It does not appear that this fear will be on account of a threat of nuclear war but rather a fear of exposure, where lies give way to truth. Years ago we thought the only way to expose such things would be to rerun the scenarios on a public screen by some supernatural process. But now it appears that the spy agencies have done the work already and that the liars have entrapped themselves by their use of technology.

On May 14, 1999 Jack Hodgdon put out another prophetic word to the overcomers, a longer word of comfort and hope when the government appears to be falling apart. It is called….

Originally Posted By: Jack Hodgdon, 1999
Flying High

(Psalm 102:17)

Flying high,
Victory is nigh,
The battle is ending,
Deliverance I am sending
Without delay,
It’s on the way!
You’ve wanted long
To sing the victor’s song,
So don’t be depressed,
I am sending heaven’s best.
Because you have stood the test,
I will do the rest.
You will sing redemption’s song,
It won’t be long!
So be not weary, my son,
You have endured the night
In the battle to do right.
So watch and pray and be not dismayed,
To follow on to know my fullness to show—but you say
I have things to overcome, I am wretched, I am dung!
Think it not strange through this fire you have come.
This battle is Mine, not thine, my son,
So look to Me, I am thy reward and sure victory!
The overcomer’s crown on thy head, O man renowned!
The time has come for the battle to end.
I am thy constant commander, I am thy friend unto the end.
So my friend, never say, “I’ll never make it on this judgment day.”
You will sing as it were A Song in the Night, the Victory’s won.
It’s within thy sight.
What more can I say on this glorious day,
You are flying high,
Victory is nigh.
When everything looks like defeat,
There were be no retreat!
The victor’s crown you will wear,
I the Lord have declared!
So hold your shield of faith high,
Your victory is near, your victory is nigh,
Through all this you’ve come,
You will not fail or succumb.
You are flying high.
You yourself will be surprised!
I will never forsake you no matter what,
I will give you the determination,
I will give you the gut!
This rut you have been in was all of me,
To see the truth to be set free.
So don’t doubt all that I have said,
The victory’s won; have no fear and have no dread.
You are being led through this dreadful night
To win the victory, to win the fight.
So rest if you must, but never quit,
The overcomer’s crown you will get.
Down through the valleys and over the hills you shall prevail;
It is my will.
So keep looking up, your redemption is nigh.
You are ascending in me, you are flying High.


Considering the fact that our Passover conference theme was Victory, this prophecy seems to fit with our time today more than at any other time in the past.


DNC LAWSUIT #AntiSchool #QAnon April 20 2018

Isaac Green does a good job describing the DNC Lawsuit.



#CANARY Q: NXIVM SONGBIRD Al_son Mack, A Sch_ff, Ob_ma, "Wendy" Wass_rman Sch_ltz

You are Free TV : I couldn't find her name but she's another QAnon commenter and journalist on many other subjects around what's going on in the USA. Here she covers earth day, Low Magnetic fields, QAnon post of a picture of Obama with a young girl that leads into the disclosure of the DNC-Hollywood pedophlia, Medical Cannabis, etc...
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/25/18 04:33 PM

My comment : Last year this article came out where Ruth Ginsburg from the Supreme Court Justice recommends to lower the age of consent to 12 years old (currently it is in some states 18 or 16) which would legalize pedophilia on a 12 years old child.

She also wrote a 230 pages documents in 1977, "Sex bias in the US", where she makes other social and government recommendation against woman. These are extreme liberal views that our government has been pushing gradually. This was the direction we were heading; but now with the coming disclosure we will return to Biblical traditional values.

QAnon said on Feb 12th 2018 post #741, that she (Ruth Ginsburg) won't stay.

"Sex bias in the US" : https://www.law.umaryland.edu/marshall/usccr/documents/cr12se9.pdf

Supreme Court Justice Ginsburg recommended decriminalizing pedophilia and child sex trafficking

Feb 8th, 2017

https://www.sott.net/article/383788-Supr...sex-trafficking

Originally Posted By: other Ginsburg recommendation from "Sex bias in the US"

  • Military draft and combat duty for women.
  • Legalization of prostitution (see pages 97, 99, 215-216 of Sex Bias in the U.S. Code)
  • Sex integration of prisons, reformatories, schools and colleges and their activities (including sports), all-girls and all-boys organizations, and fraternities and sororities.
  • Changing the names of the Boy Scouts, Girls Scouts and Big Brothers of America to reflect sex integration (see pages 145, 205 of Sex Bias in the U.S. Code).
  • Elimination of the traditional family concept of husband as breadwinner and wife as homemaker.
  • Comprehensive government child-care.
  • Adoption of sex-neutral language, e.g., "artificial" instead of "manmade"; "person, human" instead of "man, woman"; and plural nouns "they" and "them" instead of "singular third person pronouns". At the same time, however, Ginsburg and Feigen-Fasteau hypocritically insist that the U.S. Department of Labor retains its "Women's Bureau".


Further, she declared the Mann Act as “offensive” and should be repealed. The Mann Act is a law which punishes persons who engage in interstate sex traffic of women and girls (98).

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/25/18 05:08 PM

My comment : Another Q report from Stephen covering Armenia, the incoming MOAB (Mother of all bombs), the democratic party lawsuit, the arrest of Alison Mack(sex trafficking).

Q Report

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/04-2018/q-report/

Apr 24, 2018

Quote:
Armenia

On November 11, 2017, Q listed the Central Bank of Armenia among the Rothschild-controlled banks in the world. This had no particular significance at the time. But more recently, on April 15, 2018, Q reported:

Quote:
[4] Clown UIDs here.
Armenia.
GOOG qanon search stats (by country)
Armenia #1.
Q


So Q was drawing our attention to Armenia as a “#1” country to focus upon. But once again, unless someone knew what was actually going on behind the scenes in Armenia, we all missed the significance of this.

Then on Monday, April 23, 2018, Prime Minister Sargsyan of Armenia resigned amid massive protests for trying to hold on to power beyond his two terms as president.

http://www.dw.com/en/armenia-prime-minis...ests/a-43495492

Q implies that Sargsyan’s hold on power was being backed by 4 unidentified CIA agents (“Clown UIDs”). In Q’s terminology, the CIA is “Clowns in America.”

After Sargsyan resigned, Q posted on April 23:

Quote:
Why was Armenia mentioned recently?
Clowns losing control.
Q


So from Q’s point of view, Armenia was a victory. He compares the situation to North Korea a few minutes later:

Quote:
Like NK, they have been freed.
Assets on the ground.
Q


Q is telling us that Armenia has been controlled by the CIA in recent years, but that they have now been set free by the “good” faction in the Intelligence organizations—the faction that backed Trump for president. A few minutes later, Q again posted a comment to give us the bigger picture:

Quote:
Think SA [Saudi Arabia, which cleaned its house last November]
Order is important.
SA – NK [First Saudi Arabia, then North Korea]
NK – Armenia.
Armenia – Iran.
Iran – [Which country is scheduled to be set free after Iran? America perhaps?]


It is clear that Trump is following a long-range plan devised by his backers. Q speaks of the Iran nuclear deal which Obama put into place a few years ago. April 23, 2018 he writes,

Quote:
Reminder.
Iran is next….
“Installments.”
$250B [Iran being given plane loads of cash in $250 billion installments, as per Obama deal]
Jan 1. [last installment]
Jun 1. [next installment]…
Welcome Jr. President. [As if Trump just walked in to make the following statement:]
The U.S. will NOT agree to continue the Iran deal as it currently stands.
Q


It will be interesting to see how Trump handles the Iran situation. Hopefully, he can bring peace to Iran, rather than war. Trump’s success in regard to North Korea gives us hope.


MOAB Incoming

Meanwhile, Q tells us to expect a big event this week. On April 21, he writes:

Quote:
What will next week hold?
MOAB.
Q


MOAB means “Mother Of All Bombs,” named after one such bomb that was dropped on the ISIS cave complex in Afghanistan on April 13, 2017.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/world/asia/moab-mother-of-all-bombs-afghanistan.html

MOAB has since become a metaphor for a significant “Q drop.” Anyway, five minutes after warning us about “MOAB,” Q posted a follow-up:

Quote:
Ready to play?
MOAB incoming.
Q


So far we do not know what is meant by this. It might still be related to the Iran situation, or (more likely) to some domestic news.


Democratic Party Lawsuit

On Friday, April 20, the Democratic Party filed a lawsuit against the Trump campaign, Wikileaks, and Russian officials, supposedly for “collusion” to keep Hillary Clinton from winning the last election.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/...l-election.html

This desperation measure will backfire on them, because now they will have to open up their own servers to investigators to see the real source of the “leaks.” So the next day (April 21), Q posted:

Quote:
DNC to initiate lawsuit (pre-planned). [Pre-planned by who? The Trump team?]
How do we ‘legally’ …..
Win.
This platform is more than simply pushing the TRUTH.
Q


Trump then tweeted:

“So funny, the Democrats have sued the Republicans for winning. Now he R’s counter and force them to turn over a treasure trove of material, including Servers and Emails.”

The Democrats have shot themselves in the foot this time. Q implies that this was what the Trump team was hoping for, and that the Democratic Party stepped into the trap. In fact, two days earlier, Q posted this (April 19):

Quote:
We have everything.
How can we use what we know?
How do you ‘legally’ inject/make public/use as evidence?
What are you witnessing unfold?
Trust the plan.
Q


Q was asking how evidence is actually made available in court. The Trump team was aware of a “treasure trove” of information on the DNC servers and emails, but they had to figure out a way to make that information available to the court. Since the FBI refused to take it earlier when the DNC first complained about their Server being “hacked by Russians,” this information has remained private and could not be used in a court of law.

So the Trump team baited the DNC and caused them to sue the Republican Party and others over the issue. That way those being sued by the DNC have the right to demand the private information on the Server and Emails. Trump and the NSA already know what is on that server, and they have copies of the 30,000 emails that Hillary tried to destroy with hammers and bleach. But the question was how to “legally inject” this information into the court as evidence.

Now that the DNC has filed the lawsuit, their private servers and emails are no longer private.


The Arrest of Alison Mack

The actress, Alison Mack, best known for her role as young Clark Kent’s friend in Smallville, has been arrested by the FBI on sex trafficking charges.

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...nvolvement.html

As alleged in the indictment, Allison Mack recruited women to join what was purported to be a female mentorship group that was, in fact, created and led by Keith Raniere,” U.S. Attorney Richard P. Donoghue said in a statement. “The victims were then exploited, both sexually and for their labor, to the defendants’ benefit."

According to NXIVM’s former publicist, Frank Parlato, Mack came up with the idea of a secret society of women within the organization who would be branded near their groin area.

“She was the principal recruiter of young slaves for Raniere,” Parlato told Fox News on Friday. “They nicknamed her Pimp Mack.”

As you are probably aware, under Trump’s presidency thousands of people have been arrested for child-trafficking, all of whom had enjoyed some sort of unofficial immunity under previous administrations.

The Harvey Weinstein revelations last year drew national attention to the widespread problem. We saw his exposure in October 2017 to be the fulfillment of a previous sign from Hurricane Harvey in late August 2017.

Now Alison Mack has been arrested. Q said on April 20,

Quote:
Alison Mack is singing like a canary, as Alan Dershowitz would say.


Q then posts this a few minutes later:

Quote:
Mack is naming names.
Big names in H-Wood / Gov’t (local/federal).


He goes on to expose similar cases in the pedophilia rings within government circles. It takes time to bring down the big pedophiles in government, but this is a high priority on the Trump agenda. The truth is too horrible for most people to believe, so evidence must be presented a little at a time.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/25/18 08:03 PM

My comment : Vigilant Citizen has good articles.

https://vigilantcitizen.com/category/latestnews/

Below is a good article about Allison Mack and her sex-trafficking involvement with the cult NXIVM. She was in charge of recruiting & programming the girls. She was 2nd in command. So for Q to say that she sang like a canary... well they must of gotten some good info.

Allison Mack: Sex Slave Recruiter With Occult Elite Connections

Vigilant Citizen

April 24th, 2018


Quote:
"The slaves would then be subjected to painful, humiliating and traumatic rituals meant to break them down in order to be re-programmed. Typical MKULTRA techniques.

...
"In mind control terms, Allison Mack was the Grand Dame – the “motherly” figure who assisted the handler in programming. Like in most mind control systems, Mack was a slave herself.


https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/a...te-connections/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 04/27/18 11:15 PM

My comment : It so happened that I read last week an article from WDIM website (CIA Director Pompeo Oversees Capture Of ...n Killing Child) about an illegal snuff video of Hillary killing a child at one of the satanic ritual. Somehow this was one of the files leaked to Wikileak over a year ago and somehow a copy ended up on the darkweb. The NYC police department viewed this video. Many wept and was heavily disturb for how atrocious it was. Anyway not at all recommended to be viewed.

So the MOAB(Mother of all Bombs) that Q was talking about to come yesterday could be these found emails files that Hilary tried to destroy from her computer. But nothing is really destroyed because the NSA has a copy of everything. Now that the white hats of the US government is gaining control of all the departments of the government....this information becomes there's to use wisely.

So these "lost texts files" are now found and made available to Congress. So they are using it to bring down Mystery[Secret] Babylon by exposing them so their secret is no longer secret. The Lord's purpose is being fulfill with these events.

The lost text messages being released to congress

April 26th, 2018

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When Hillary Clinton tried to destroy her incriminating computer with a hammer and bleach last year, she apparently was unaware that her emails could not be deleted. She is obviously even more ignorant of the computer world than I am. It has taken a long time for these emails to surface, but it appears that they will soon be made available to congress, if not the public.

There are other “missing” emails that have also been found, because, as we now know, no emails are ever truly deleted. If investigators really want to see them, they are there to be found. If nowhere else, the NSA has copies of all of them in its files. The same is true for text messages and all electronic data, including telephone calls. In fact, just carrying a cell phone records all of your conversations and its GPS technology records every move you make with your cell phone.

You too should keep this in mind. We can’t stop this flow of technology. I can only tell you to live as if everything you say and do is known to the NSA, if you become a person of interest. So don’t do anything illegal, and be careful what you say. Be especially careful about joking around, because the government has no sense of humor, and they take what you say as if you are serious.

Q has said many times that “they never thought she would lose.” In other words, when the spy organizations set up their spying, the Deep State never thought that they might lose control of their own agencies, or that the information being recorded might be used against THEM. But that is exactly what has happened. We saw that shift occur in 2012, and that is when I began to suggest that we were about to see Haman hanged on his own gallows.

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2012/01-2012/the-year-2012-in-the-big-picture/

After Hillary Clinton lost the election in 2016, she panicked and tried to get rid of 30,000 emails, not realizing that she could not delete them with a hammer. Later, six months’ worth of text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were somehow “lost” as well, but again, nothing is ever really lost. So they too have now been found and are being read with interest by investigators.

It appears from the recent Q posts that congress is about to be given transcripts of the texts between Strzok and Page, which someone tried to “lose.” Sara Carter tweeted this on April 24:

https://qanon.pub/data/images/1603c3b285ecadbe475ae6620755e22ffdbfed4aba8a34a642da974348412383.jpg

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“BREAKING: DOJ will make the six months of missing texts that were eventually located by IG [Inspector General] between Strzok and Page available to congress sometime tonight or tomorrow, according to sources…. developing.”


Well, so far these have not been released, or if they were, they remain secret. Q posted on April 25 that there is an information war going on in the background. He says,

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They feel threatened.
This is about us.
Expect more (outcry).
We are being set up and targeted (+ DDoS).


Later on the same day, Q posted:

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They tried to delete the proof.
POTUS win – 1/20 [January 20, 2017, Trump’s inauguration]
Deep clean.
They never thought she would lose.
Insurance w/o cover.
Nothing is deleted.
No Such Agency. [NSA]


The reference to “Insurance w/o cover” could be a reference to the incriminating information on Anthony Weiner’s laptop, which was filed under “Insurance.” Apparently, this was blackmail information that was kept as an insurance policy in case someone turned against him or tried to kill him. When the NYC police officers saw those files, it made them cry. It is apparently so evil that the files are not suitable for public viewing. Don’t expect to see them. Weiner was later sentenced to 21 months in prison, but that was only on a relatively minor charge.

There are so many incriminating emails, text messages, and phone conversations that it is often hard to know which ones Q is talking about. But Sara Carter’s tweet was talking about the texts between Strzok and Page, and now their boss, Bill Priestap, has decided to reduce the charges against him and testify against his underlings as well as his former bosses, Andrew McCabe and James Comey.

https://truepundit.com/doj-key-fbi-brass...r-grand-juries/

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The inner circle of James Comey and Andrew McCabe on the 7th Floor of FBI HQ has flipped, according to high level Justice Department officials.

The once-loyal cabal of FBI brass and leaders who reigned during the FBI tenures of Comey and McCabe have been testifying against their former bosses, DOJ sources confirm….

In law enforcement circles, these players are referred to as Rats, cops who implicate other cops to save their jobs and pensions. So who is ratting on Comey and McCabe and cooperating with the proceedings against each?

FBI Counterintelligence Head Bill Priestap is the biggest fish, federal law enforcement sources said. And he is a key player here. His cooperation spells trouble for McCabe and likely Comey too.

“Last guy I would have thought would cooperate is cooperating,” one high-ranking Justice official said about Priestap. “He knows about everything the IG is looking at because he was involved in it all.”

The Justice official called Priestap’s cooperation “devastating” especially to McCabe. The source would not elaborate.

McCabe realized this when he banked over $500K on a GoFundMe campaign for upcoming legal fees.

Priestap was Peter Strzok’s boss and Priestap answered directly to McCabe.


Sometimes it takes a long time for investigations to be completed, but as investors discover more and more evidence and present it to those who have broken the law, they are able to make deals with those who are willing to confess their crimes and implicate others. That is how investigations widen until the full truth is known.

One of the most serious things, according to Q, is how some people (probably Strzok and Page) had conspired to kill the president and/or a member of his family. So Q posted on January 22, 2018,

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What would happen if texts originating from a FBI agent to several [internals] discussed the assassination (possibility) of the POTUS or member of his family?
What if the texts suggest foreign allies were involved?
Forget the Russia set up [1 of 22].
This is only the beginning.
Be careful what you wish for.
AS THE WORLD TURNS.
Could messages such as those be publicly disclosed?
What happens to the FBI?
What happens to the DOJ?
What happens to special counsel?
What happens in general?


Q is implying that someone in the FBI and DOJ talked of the possibility of assassinating Trump. It seems likely that this implicates Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, who both worked for the FBI. Q asks how such a treasonous plot could be exposed and prosecuted without destroying the FBI and even the DOJ. As it is, the FBI’s reputation is at a low point.

Q also implies that “foreign allies were involved.” Russia was not involved, Q says, nor was Russia considered to be a US ally.

Q’s reference to “AS THE WORLD TURNS” appears to be a reference to the Kennedy assassination in 1963, which interrupted an episode of the soap opera by that name. Q seems to be comparing the Kennedy assassination with the alleged Trump assassination plot.

At any rate, Q reposted his January 22 posting (above) on April 25. This connects that post with the texts from Strzok and Page that are about to be given to congress.

People have been anxiously waiting word that those texts have indeed been turned over to congress. So far, there is no official word, but Q said on April 25,

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Happened.
Not public.
Debate how to handle.
Buying time.
Toxic.
Dangerous.
Threats.
Q


Apparently, the missing text messages were delivered to congress, but this fact has not yet been made public. They need time to debate how to handle such toxic (and treasonous) messages. Further, the release of those text messages pose a danger/threat coming from the conspirators, who know that their days are numbered if this information is given to the public.

So we will see how this turns out. It appears that this is the MOAB that Q was talking about last week.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/04/18 09:19 PM

The Flood of Truth has begun

My comment : I thought the following very interesting and confirming how Dr. Stephen Jones dates when the feasts takes place. As I observed over the years reading his blog and having so many calendars, the Feasts watch dates falls when important events falls on a likelihood of a Feast dates as God will might make things happens on some of the days of the feasts.

Also Stephen is starting a new format to reach the younger crowd who are more accustom to learn by ears(via videos) rather than the eyes (via reading). So he now provides both a video and a transcript of it to those interested.

Currently we are in the 2nd passover watch dates and on May 2nth (which was the first day of unleavened bread) Trump added Emmet Flood as his lawyer. Because "emmet" means "truth" in Hebrew, this is a potential sign from heaven that this day mark the start of the "flood of truth" to come on this earth.

So "a flood of truth" is what is necessary to happened before the people can come to repentance. As far as I understand the law of tribulation, to me Lev 26:41 says a repentance must happened before the people are released from captivity. The whole world has been in captivity(judgment) since the first Beast, the Head of Gold the statue of Dan 2 -- Babylon, has taken Jerusalem in captivity, in the year 604 BC. That's a long time, actually 7 times (7x360 = 2520 years)

Many(Adventist and other Christians) are waiting for the latter rain of the Holy Spirit to come down that will rain on every man according to Joel. Scriptures talks about it as the rain of truth. The Hebrew word for the rain means a "teacher" that is an "archer" that never miss the target. That's the Holy Spirit's(God) ability. God never fails to hit His target, but man comes short (Rom 3:23).

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/05-2018/the-flood-of-truth-has-begun/

May 3rd, 2018

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In a video that I did earlier this week, I questioned whether the 17th day of the 2nd month (Hebrew calendar) fell on May 2 or 3. If you check the official Jewish calendar, it is May 2. But some claimed that the new moon was sighted a day late, so this would put the entire month a day later. I said that we should watch current events for verification one way or the other.

It appears that the official calendar is correct, at least insofar as we are to view it prophetically. On May 2, 2018 President Trump hired Emmet Flood as one of his personal attorneys.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/02/who-is-emmet-flood-trump-lawyer-white-house-565625

The name Emmet comes from the Hebrew word amet, “truth.” Flood is self-explanatory.

Hence, the sign we are seeing on May 2 is that the Truth Flood has begun on the 17th day of the 2nd month, as stated in Genesis 7:11.

Not only the timing but also the manner of the flood is suggested by this sign. It is not a destructive flood, but a flood of truth. Hence, it is not the start of "The Great Tribulation," as some are saying. Since it is tied to the Trump administration, it also suggests that this flood of truth is going to come from government circles, particularly from the Trump backers who are leaking truth little by little, in part by the Q posts.

The flood itself (rain) lasted 40 days (Genesis 7:12). That gives us a 40-day watch period from May 2 to June 10.

Thinking more long-term, “the water prevailed upon the earth one hundred and fifty days” (Genesis 7:24). Considering May 2 to be the first day of this time frame, this would tell us that this flood of truth should reach some sort of end point on September 28, 2018. This is the 5th day of the feast of Tabernacles this year. Hence, it correlates with the 5th sign in John, where Jesus walked on the water in the midst of a storm (John 6:16-21).


Emmet Flood as a Sign

May 3rd, 2018
(Message content goes from 1:34 to 9:42 and 12:20 to 15:16)


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... From 1:34 - 9:42 min mark starts below.

Trump has hired on a new attorney, as of yesterday, and his name is Emmet Flood. Very interesting that his name, Emmet, means “Truth” in Hebrew. And so this is a Truth Flood that is coming to government, or to the White House. I’m not sure quite how this is going to take place as far as “11” is concerned, but it is very interesting that there is a Flood of truth coming.

Yesterday, May 2, 2018, was the 17th day of the second month on the Hebrew calendar. And in my previous video, I mentioned how this day was also the beginning of the flood in Genesis 7:11 - the flood came on the 17th day of the second month. So, we were alerted to this earlier, and have been expecting to see some sort of manifestation, or some kind of a sign, that the flood was beginning. And so, obviously then, we get Emmet Flood into the White House team to defend President Trump. Now, the interesting part of this is that some people had questioned whether or not the 17th day of this second month was May 2or May 3, and some were saying that it was actually May 3 rather than May 2, and of course, in my last video, I said that we’ll have to see because events should really prove this out - one way or the other. Well, I believe that the events have now proven it out, because Emmet Flood did not get hired today, May 3, he got hired yesterday, May 2. So, the timing of this, I think, proves everything out.

So, this is very interesting, but now, of course, what are the implications of this? The flood obviously is a reference to Noah’s flood, and in Matthew 24 we have the statement that Jesus made about “In the days of Noah,” and that everybody was living life normally until the flood came and took them all away. So, we’ve always wondered - what does that mean? There’s many layers on that, of course, there’s many ways to look at it, but as far as the flood itself is concerned, it appears that we are now beginning the pattern (as of yesterday) for Noah’s flood, and it’s interesting that it would happen right here during our time of the Feast of Unleavened bread for the second Passover, during this week from April 30 to May 6. So, because of this, we’re looking at a “Flood-type” as well. I mean, it’s a battle of “Jericho-type,” at least for these first seven days - but, after this, what about the flood? This has added a whole new dimension to our watch dates here.

So, first of all, we know from Scripture that the flood (or the rain itself that caused the flood) was forty days and forty nights. So, that will take us to June 10 - if May 2 is day one, then day forty is June 10. So, this is our first watch date period here, and we’ll have to see what happens as far as that goes. But then there is a longer period of time because the flood actually lasted, on the earth, 150 days. I presume that the 150 days begins with the beginning of the flood (I.e., May 2 rather than June 10). I mean, it’s not 150 days after the rain stopped – I think that it’s 150 days total. Well, the 150 days, then, ends on September 28th this year, which happens to be the fifth day of the Feast of Tabernacles.

So, what is the significance of the fifth day of the Feast of Tabernacles? Well, it’s the middle of the Feast of Tabernacles, and if you recall the signs in John, the eight signs in John correlate with the eight days of the Feast of Tabernacles, and it’s on the fifth day of Tabernacles where Christ returns. Now, I’m not expecting Christ to return, per se, in the middle of this Tabernacles – although, if He does, I will certainly be there to welcome Him – but these things have a way of being fulfilled on lower levels, or lesser levels, before the “Big one” occurs. But then, who knows? This is 2018. Babylon is fallen in this year, so this, I think, is going to be a very significant time, and I think that the Feast of Tabernacles this year is probably going to be extremely important, and right now, our focus is zeroed in on the fifth day of Tabernacles (September 28). We will see what will happen. It correlates with the fifth sign in John which is where Jesus walked on the water - He came to the disciples, Peter went out to meet Him, he escorted Him back to the boat, and suddenly, they were at the other side of the lake there in Capernaum (the covering of the comforter).

So, with all of this happening, it’s amazing how the hiring of Emmet Flood, as one of Trump’s personal attorneys, can have such an impact on the timing and understanding of what is going on today, and this summer, this week, for the next forty days and for the next 150 days, in so far as what we are to watch for. So, I’m rather excited about it. Now, we’ve just started this time period, of course, so I don’t really know what’s going to happen. Basically, all we know right now are the Biblical patterns, so if you know the Biblical stories, then, whatever happens, you’ll be able to understand what happens, because the Biblical story will give you the explanation of what is happening in the real world today, and that’s the way it always has been. That’s why we look at the “types and shadows” and the signs and the times. It’s not about following signs, it’s about understanding what the signs mean, and we can’t understand them, of course, unless we know the Bible stories. So, that’s why we need to study the scriptures to understand what is actually going on.

.... [from the 12:20 to 15:16 min mark]

The end of the 150 days of the flood, which began May 2 (yesterday), comes to September 28. September 28 is very interesting because it’s not only the fifth day of Tabernacles this year (which marks the point prophetically of Christ’s return, I might add), but also September 28, in the evening, was actually when Jesus was born (in 2 B.C.). So, it marks also, essentially, the date of Jesus’ birth. September 28 to 29 is when we would celebrate Jesus’ birth (on our calendar, anyway). Back in 2 B.C., of course, it was the Feast of Trumpets, which shifts every year, but this year Trumpets is a couple of weeks earlier. Nonetheless, if you’re looking for a fixed date on our calendar, we normally think in terms of September 29, but I believe that it’s actually the night of the 28th, which, of course, in Hebrew time, is the beginning of the 29th.

So, look at the overlays of prophecy happening here:

- Noah comes out of the Ark on the 28th of September, according to this pattern.
- Jesus is born, according to this pattern, at the same time.
- And the return of Christ in the fifth day of Tabernacles, also.

So, we have some major convergence here of prophecy according to various patterns that are happening, and it’s all happening here in 2018 – which, as we know, is the beginning of the actual fall and collapse of Mystery Babylon. Their time is up.

So, this whole pattern here of first of all the Jericho battles, but also then the Noah’s flood thing (which we’re going to watch for in the next few months), these things are very significant, and it provides us with something to really be watchful for, and orient our thinking, toward throughout this summer.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/05/18 02:00 AM

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Currently we are in the 2nd passover watch dates
You can't even support when the Jewish year starts.....
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/05/18 04:13 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
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Currently we are in the 2nd passover watch dates
You can't even support when the Jewish year starts.....

??? Only a day difference from the Nehemiah Gordon Barley report and the Karaite Korner's Jewish Calendar.

https://escapeallthesethings.com/holy-day-calendar/

Posted By: APL

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/05/18 08:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
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Currently we are in the 2nd passover watch dates
You can't even support when the Jewish year starts.....

??? Only a day difference from the Nehemiah Gordon Barley report and the Karaite Korner's Jewish Calendar.

https://escapeallthesethings.com/holy-day-calendar/

From the link, quote: "Don't Fear - Intention Is What Counts"
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/08/18 05:18 PM

My comment : Pretty good assessment of the Global Financial RESET situation by Jim Willie. The underlined sections are mine.

Global RESET Challenge: Ultimate Twist


http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1525377600.php

Jim Willie

May 3rd, 2018

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The Global Currency RESET has 100 steps and the first 10-12 appear complete. This is not a fantasy, but very real and in progress. Its progress is not very visible to most observers. Some important steps are seeing tremendous progress, but they are executed in the East with very little press coverage by the insidious lapdog Western press networks. Review many of the RESET features, but in summary form. These are covered steadily in the Hat Trick Letter reports.


LOST GLOBAL RESERVE STATUS

USDollar will no longer have sole global currency reserve status. As central banks across the globe discharge (dump) a sizeable portion of their USTreasury Bond holdings, they will seek alternatives. They will choose Gold bullion and Chinese Govt Bonds more often, in addition perhaps to more Euro Bonds. The trend of USTBond dumping has been very noticeable for the last two years. It comes from both the intentional motivated reduction in USD-based FOREX holdings, but also from Indirect Exchange. The latter is a practice of using USTBonds for instance in large projects as cash payment from two parties, like with China and Russia in building an oil pipeline. In the aftermath, Gold will benefit with more physical demand for bank reserves in direct asset placements without counter-party risk.


LOST GLOBAL PAYMENT MONOPOLY

USDollar will no longer have sole trade payment status. It is losing its monopoly, led by oil shipments, the sole status lost to the Chinese RMB. The Petro-Yuan contract out of Shanghai is a major game changer. Many observers believe this is a minor issue, but it is not. As more nations purchase oil with RMB, the banking systems will see the RMB Bonds push out the USTBonds in their reserves management. As the Jackass has stated consistently, gold will be introduced first in trade payment, then in bank reserves, and finally in currencies. The Petro-Dollar is in an advanced stage of its demise. The Petro-Yuan contract represents a death knell to the Petro-Dollar defacto standard. The Saudi oil sales to China in RMB terms represents a dagger in the Petro-Dollar heart, soon to be realized. In the aftermath, Gold will benefit with more demand for trade payment basis equity, like in the Gold Trade Note.


MAJOR BANK STRUCTURE CHANGES

Hidden important aspects in banking structures and debt structures are in the making, some difficult to fully discern. They relate to the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) filings against all private money systems. The result will apparently be the shutdown of many banks which operate within the Rothschild realm, many rogue and oppressive with dirty operations. The banking structures have been designed and maintained by the banker cabal for decades, but changes will sweep some aside. In the aftermath, Gold will benefit with more emphasis, as less emphasis will be given to debt-based money.


TRADE IMBALANCE DIRECTIVE

Nations must resolve trade imbalances. Since the abrogated 1971 Bretton Woods Accord, which had set the Gold Standard, the imbalances have grown without bound. The worst offender nation is clearly the United States, which exchanges fraudulent debt securities for finished products and commodity supply. The USGovt debt will never be repaid, a fact gaining awareness[u]. Thus the payment for ample imports in the form of USTBills and USTBonds is spurious at best, and fraudulent at worst. Nations will be forced to reduce imbalances, namely their trade deficits. In the aftermath, Gold will benefit with more usage in trade imbalance adjustments for bilateral resolution.


[u]DEVALUATION THREAT


Deadbeat nations will be punished economically via currency devaluation. Nations will be forced to reduce imbalances, which means they must export more and import less. They will be forced to rebuild their industry if forfeited like with the top 20 (formerly) industrialized nations. They will build their industry if they live beyond their means. The key will be the movements in many nations to build an export trade. Some movements will take on national priority. In the aftermath, Gold will benefit with more usage in trade deficit resolutions.


END OF UNIPOLAR RULE

Multi-polar global financial system will continue to emerge. Since the end of World War II, the United States decided to gradually impose a quasi-democratic dictatorship, which has morphed into a global cabal fascist dictatorship since September 2001. The unipolar rule has resulted in profound chronic abuse of power, tremendous development of corrupt systems, hyper monetary inflation as standard policy, a push toward confrontation with the anti-Rothschild East, constant war drumbeat, arms sales & missile placements, routine sanctions, and a steady dose of destabilization. The corrupt systems are seen in the central banking franchise systems, the debt rating agencies, the banking regulatory bodies, the foreign embassies, and even the Intl Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and the United Nations. The multi-polar system that emerges no longer favors the dominant King Dollar in the global financial system. Instead, the multi-polar system favors the Gold Standard, in numerous important channels. In the aftermath, Gold will benefit with more usage in every aspect of the global financial system.


GOLD STANDARD ROLLOUT
ually be implemented, first in trade payment methods. Then it will be implemented in banking reserves management, using trade surpluses. Finally, it will be implemented with the introduction of various gold-backed currencies, augmented by formal financial devices like the Gold Trade Note. The rollout will be led by the Eastern superpowers, as they continue with impressive progress with the Belt & Road Initiative, the Asian Infra-structure Investment Bank (rival to IMFund), the BRICS Development Bank, the BRICS Gold Platform, the Cross-Border Interbank Payment System (CIPS competitor to SWIFT), and smaller platforms. They all have one trait in common: no usage of the USDollar. The United States finds itself outside looking in, facing severe isolation in a process that is well along and gaining momentum. In the aftermath, Gold will benefit with more usage in every aspect of the global financial system.


GOLD RESERVES REQUIREMENT

Nations must demonstrate gold reserves in order to participate in global trade. They must produce gold and post the gold as reserves, subject to independent audits. Expect the United States to continue in its astounding gold accounting fraud, but the rogue nation will be revealed and unmasked as massive fraud kings. An end will be seen to the deadbeat nations which do not adequately pull their weight. They must industrialize. They must demonstrate a gold reserves vault in order to become a viable player in global trade. In the aftermath, Gold will benefit with more demand for trade payment basis equity, like in the Gold Trade Note.


DUAL UNIVERSE EMERGES

Dual Universe will become well recognized. The United States cannot go to war with the Eastern superpowers, along with their entire armada of nations aligned in favor of the Gold Standard and aligned against the continued USDollar usage. The BRICS Alliance has given way to members of the Belt & Road itself. The Chinese Yuan currency, also called the RMB (renminbi), will gain ground. The RMB Sphere has emerged, which will gain momentum from the Petro-Yuan contract out of Shanghai. Expect Chinese oil sales to be primarily paid in RMB terms in the upcoming months. Expect Chinese container shipments to be primarily paid in RMB terms in the upcoming months also. Expect Chinese trade partners to participate, and to use the RMB in trade payments on an increasing basis, all across the Belt & Road projects. Expect the Arab and OPEC oil producers to accept RMB in oil payments as well as many other types of shipments, even foreign direct investment. The other Dollar Sphere will continue its dominant function, but it will lose ground every single year to the RMB Sphere. The Dollar Sphere will rely upon USGovt pressure and even USMilitary coercion. The proportion of trade payment and banking reserves will decline every year for the USDollar, while the proportion will rise every year for the RMB. When the gold-backing for the Chinese RMB is announced and launched, the Dollar Sphere will lose ground in a magnificent manner with a potential collapse episode, culminating in a USGovt debt default event. In the aftermath, Gold will benefit with more usage in every aspect of the RMB Sphere, from trade to investment to banking to construction projects, and finally to savings.


INFRA-STRUCTURE EMPHASIS

Emphasis on infra-structure toward economic development will be given by the Eastern coalition of nations which have formed the Eurasian Trade Zone. The Belt & Road Initiative has tremendous momentum, an impressive list of participating nations, and an enormous $8 trillion in projects, many of which have begun. Few economists comprehend the basic economic fact, that economic development, business growth, job creation, and wealth generation begin with business investment. And business investment begins with infra-structure development. Without roads, highways, railways, bridges, tunnels, port facilities, broadband internet, fiber optic lines, high voltage lines, and other means of flow, economies like the neglected USEconomy will continue to rot. The USGovt has spent over $25 trillion since 1975 on military, while earning global resentment and broadbased enmity. The US has neglected its infra-structure and finally resembles a Third World nation more then ever in over 200 years. Many US allies have followed in the wasteful ruinous military path, and they will suffer alongside the United States for wanton reckless stupidity. Nations which do not embark on significant infra-structure projects will fall by the wayside. In the aftermath, Gold will benefit with more usage in every aspect of payment systems from Eastern development


END OF IMPOSED SANCTIONS

Emphasis on removal of financial sanctions will gain acceptance on a global basis. As the alternative systems are developed, no longer centered upon the USDollar, the impact of sanctions will become a moot issue. Iran, for instance, has numerous workarounds. They invented the workaround concepts. They are the Eastern workshop, despite certain hardships for Iran. Sanctions led by the USGovt, far beyond its jurisdiction and rule, have resulted in a nearly universal anti-USD policy, even among many US allies. The FATCA rules sealed the deal in angry global reaction. The British have joined the AIIBank, much to the ire of the Washington Fascist lunatics. The Belt & Road Initiative is attracting more and more Western nations, in defiance of Washington wishes. US sanctions have served as the glue and spirit behind the non-USD movements directed by the Eastern leading nations in China and Russia. In the aftermath, Gold will benefit with more usage in continued defiance of USGovt abuses.


DISRUPTIVE ROLE OF US-LED NARCOTICS

The USGovt and Wall Street banks have used narcotics trafficking and money laundering to continue to keep other nations in their grip. It comes in the form of bribery to foreign government officials, percentage cuts to banking officials, and military (if not terrorist) threats to many nations in order to compel them to stay in line with USDollar support. It has become called the King Dollar and its reign of terror, with narcotics as a central role. The pressure on foreign nations is immense and profound, but the consequences will be horrible and painful. The nations which remain loyal to the United States Government will suffer unimaginable currency crisis and related economic problems, much like what is seen in Venezuela. Foreign currencies are being supported by US-led narcotics trafficking and money laundering, in a very ugly factor at work. Leaders assure future chaos in return for present stability. These nations must make progress toward the Gold Standard, if even in small initial steps. The consequence for failure to do so will be entry into the Third World.


MULTIPLE GOLD MARKET PRICES

The gold market is ready to fracture into multiple sites for posted prices. Disparities exist and are widening. Expect separate independently marked prices for Gold to appear in London, New York, Zurich, Frankfurt, Dubai, Hong Kong, Beijing, Moscow, Singapore, Panama, and elsewhere. The domination by COMEX & LBMA will soon come to an end. The next norm for a Gold Price Fix will become a simple average of the multiple posted global gold prices, from the multiple sites. Then come the lawsuits against the COMEX in New York and the London Bullion Market Association in London, which have conspired to corrupt the gold market for the last few decades, and to corrupt its contractual dealings in an impressive thorough manner. The COMEX will go dark, while the Gold price reaches multiples higher. Remember that the longer a market price remains within a tight bound, the more explosive the price advance will be when the boundaries are broken. Expect the Gold price to reach multiple higher levels.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/08/18 06:10 PM

The One Year Flood

My comment : In Stephen last vblog [video blog] he forgot about the one year of the ark floating around after the 40 days of rain that terminates with a 150 days of resting on a mountain. So we have as a repeated prophecy cycle : 40 days rain + remaining year floating around + 150 days resting on Mt. Ararat.

He brings the difference between the solar year calendar and the lunar year calendar that leads to why we see the prophetic means of 360 days/year.

He further links this to the "indignation of the Lord" that comes down as a judgment. The judgment that seems to be coming is the 3rd destruction of Jerusalem. But this time around the destruction might come with Nuclear bombs that will leave Jerusalem unrepairable like specified in Jer 19:11. In the last two destructions, Jerusalem was successfully rebuilt after. This leaves a section of the prophecy unfulfilled for a future full fulfillment of prophecy to come.

Then Stephen addresses the prophecies talking about the "indignation" and the "controversy of Zion" that revolves around Edom that I find very interesting and ties in with todays end time prophecies.

The destruction of Jerusalem in the long run a very positive event as it would contribute to a lot of disclosure and exposure (==rain/flood of truth) that would bring a lot of reflection (Jer 19:8 "...every one that passeth thereby shall be astonished and hiss because of all the plagues thereof.") that leads to the Holy Spirit putting back the breath[ruach] of God in Man as oppose to taking it away as it was so during the first flood in the OT.



https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/05-2018/the-one-year-flood/

May 4th, 2018

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Yesterday in my video, I mis-spoke here, I wasn't really thinking, I was talking about September 28 which was the end of the 150 days after the flood dating or beginning on May 2, the other day, and actually yes there is that 150 days, but that is when the ark rested upon Mount Ararat - it was not when Noah actually came out of the ark.

We read in Genesis 8:14, and it says:

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14 In the second month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, the earth was dry.

15 Then God spoke to Noah, saying, 16 “Go out of the ark, you and your wife and your sons and your sons’ wives with you.


And so this was a year later. Actually, by the Hebrew calendar it was a year and 10 days from the 17th day of the second month to the 27th day of the second month one year later. So actually, we have another time cycle involved in this as well - we're going to have to wait another year before we actually come out of the ark, according to this time cycle.

Now, what does that mean? Well, of course, Moses was dealing with a lunar calendar, which is what the Hebrew calendar was based upon. 12 lunar months or 12 full lunar cycles (12 full moons, if you will) is 354-and-a-fraction days. A solar year is 10 or 11 days later, 365-and-a-quarter days.

Of course in the biblical calendars, for the purposes of prophecy, a year is 360 days. Because it's the mean distance between a solar year and a lunar year. So, they talk about a time being 360 days in a short-term prophesy, or a time being 360 years in a long-term prophecy.

And so, when we look at this Genesis 8:14 and 15, where it talks about Noah coming out of the ark, this is about 1 solar year later. It's from one month to the other, on the Hebrew calendar I should say it's from one year to the other. I should say 12 months. The 12 lunar months would run about 10 or 11 days short of a solar year. And so, if Noah came out of the ark 1 year and 10 days later, that is virtually the equivalent of a 1-year cycle.

So, we should watch May 2 of 2019 as a 1-year cycle from the beginning of this flood. So that's a little bit more long-term, I don't even have a notebook calendar yet for 2019, so I can't even mark it down. So if I forget it, let me know. Otherwise, I think that events are going to be proving things out, and if we see evidence of flooding for this next year. I don't think we'll forget that May 2 of next year, give or take a day, should be very important as a time marker of the end of this particular flood cycle.

Okay, looking at it some further. Somebody sent me a reminder - which I thought was excellent, I'm always grateful for people to make corrections, and to tell me some details that I may have forgotten. This isn't like writing, when I'm writing I think better. But when speaking, there's more pressure on it, and sometimes it's difficult, your mind goes blank, that sort of thing.

If the 5th day of Tabernacles is September 28, then the 8th day of Tabernacles would be the 153rd day. That's an interesting time as well, so the 8th day of Tabernacles this year is the 153rd day of this particular cycle. Hm, coincidence? Well I don't know. I don't think it's a coincidence, but time will tell. Time proves out all things, my opinion in the end doesn't really matter because the Divine plan will go on with or without me. Whether I understand it or not, and I will always be adjusting my thinking as the revelation unfolds, and as events unfold. So, I do the best with what I have now, but things can always change, and as I said we can always make corrections and additions and things like that. So you'll need to keep up with these reports, because every report is incomplete in itself, and so there's a progressive revelation. And I hope you'll forgive me for not knowing everything all at once.

When I was praying about Noah emerging from the ark, and this 1-year period, What came to mind was Isaiah 26:20, which says,

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20 Come, my people, enter into your rooms and close your doors behind you; Hide for a little while until indignation runs its course. 21 For behold, the Lord is about to come out from His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity; And the earth will reveal her bloodshed and will no longer cover her slain.


I've seen this verse, and have read it and been reminded of it for many years, and I've been wondering: When does this actually apply? Now the standard Christian viewpoint would apply this perhaps to The Great Tribulation, which they conceive of as a 7-year period where they antichrist rises up and all that. Now, of course, those who believe in the rapture believe that they are exempt from this, so I'm not sure how they would apply this. Unless, maybe going to heaven for 7 years, or 3-and-a-half years as some believe, might be the "entering into the room". Maybe it's a room in the mansion that they have in heaven or something like that, I'm not sure.

But, this word "indignation" is an interesting word. Because it very literally means to foam at the mouth like as maybe a camel might do, so the lexicons tell us. But, it actually means anger, or divine judgement as it were.

There are many verses that deal with this. For instance Isaiah 10:5 says,

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5 Woe to Assyria, the rod of My anger and the staff in whose hands is My indignation, 6 I send it against a godless nation and commission it against the people of My fury to capture booty and to seize plunder, and to trample them down like mud in the streets.


Now this is, of course, a prophecy about God sending the Assyrians to destroy and to deport the house of Israel, the northern tribes of Israel. God says that "Assyria is the staff in whose hand is My indignation, the rod of my anger". So, again, indignation has to do with divine judgment coming upon a Godless people.

Again in isaiah 13:4-6 we read,

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4 ... The Lord of hosts is mustering the army for battle. 5 They are coming from a far country, from the farthest horizons, The Lord and His instruments of indignation, to destroy the whole land. 6 Wail, for the day of the Lord is near! It will come as destruction from the Almighty.


So, once again, indignation has to do with divine judgment, and God's indignation is being expressed here. Finally, I think the real point of this, if we look at the current situation where the Israeli state and the Iranians are on the brink of war - I don't know if they actually will go to war or not, but I think something is going to happen, and at some point, as you know from previous studies, I believe that Jerusalem is going to be destroyed according to the prophecy of Jeremiah 19:10-11, and also Isaiah 29:1-6.

But, in Isaiah 34 you have another one of these prophecies, and it's not usually applied to the Israeli state, because it's actually applied against Edom. It deals with the controversy of Zion, that is a big subject and we can't deal with all of that here, I talked about this in my book The Struggle for the Birthright. It's really a struggle between Jacob and Esau, Esau is Edom, and Jacob is Israel.

There is a prophetic controversy going on here, which Isaiah references in Isaiah 34, and the controversy is really over who has the right to the birthright. And, by extension, who has the right to own the land of Palestine or Canaan or Israel or however you want to express it. Who really has that right? That is a legal question which is rather complex, and we can't deal with it all here.

In a nutshell, in the book of Genesis, we read that Jacob was the one who was to receive the birthright and the elder shall serve the younger, that is, the elder was Esau "Edom" and he was to serve his younger brother, Jacob. You see this also in Romans 9.

Though Jacob was a believer, he was also carnal. So, when it came time that Isaac wanted to pass on this blessing and birthright to Esau - because that was the favorite son, and he was the oldest, and by law normally he would have gotten that birthright. Nonetheless, Jacob's mother panicked, and Jacob went along with it as well.

So, we read that Jacob lied to his father in order to get the blessing. Now, his father was blind so he could only go by the voice. He thought he recognized Jacob's voice rather than Esau, but Jacob said "Oh yeah, I'm really Esau, yeah." So, Jacob stole the identity of Esau in order to obtain the birthright.

He was trying to fulfill prophecy in an unlawful manner. You can't do that, you will never get away with doing something like that. Even if it is the divine plan, you cannot violate the law in order to get it. The fact was that Jacob, at that time in his life, did not have sufficient faith in God, and he thought God needed a helping hand from the power of flesh. He thought that he could fulfill prophecy, and God would excuse him, when he lied about it in order to get it.

You see, he did not understand the sovereignty of God yet. He didn't understand that God didn't need any help. There's no panic in heaven, and just because Isaac was about to bless Esau did not mean that Jacob had the right to lie to his father. He should have had faith that no matter what happens, he knew that if this was prophesied, he would get it in the end. Regardless of how bad the situation looked, regardless of how much it looked like prophecy was failing. He should have had faith in God. He should not have that "God helps those who helps themselves."

It wasn't until many years later, when he wrestled with the angel, that he finally discovered that God really was sovereign. He lost the wrestling match, and in losing he won. He prevailed by losing. He didn't prevail over the angel, by the time that wrestling match was over he was just hanging on, that's all he could do.

But he won because of a revelation that he had, because suddenly he realized: He was not fighting Esau, he was fighting God. That was a huge revelation. So, when he understood that God rules, that God was sovereign, he got a new name to bear that testimony of the sovereignty of God. That new name was Israel.

Anytime a name ends in "el" (which means God), God is always doing the action. So, it doesn't mean that man is ruling with God, because that focuses upon man. It means that God rules. God is sovereign, and when Jacob had that revelation, he got the name that would be a living testimony of the sovereignty of God. That is what made him an overcomer.

Now, that's the classic story. But, the controversy continued long-term, because Esau lost the birthright, but he always felt that it was his, rightfully. He never accepted or understood the revelation of God. He always thought he got a bad deal. He was bitter. He was angry, and he was bloodthirsty all through the history.

Now, years later (in about 126 B.C.), the Judaites conquered the Edomites. They gave them a choice of either converting to Judaism, or being exiled out of the land. They could go anywhere else they wanted, but Judah was going to take over their land.

Well, according to Josephus, the vast majority of them decided that they want to stay in their land. So they all converted in mass to Judaism. It was a forceable conversion, even though they were given a choice. It was really by coercion, if you want to get technical.

In this coercion, we saw an alliance between Edom and Judah. Edom was incorporated into Jewry, and from then on there is no more nation of Edom - or in the Greek if you prefer, it's Idumea (that's the Greek form of Edom.) Idumea or Edom ceased to be a separate nation from Judah. So, Judah was now a composite of Edom and Judah, along with Benjamin and some of Levi.

Well, what are the implications of that? First of all, in 1948 when the Israeli state was established (70 years next week), it was not allowed, by God's law, to be established under the authority of Judah. Because Judah had been sent into captivity, and Judah was not allowed to return unless they repented of their hostility towards Jesus Christ. That is part of the Law of Tribulation in Leviticus 26:40-42.

It is only when they repent that God would change the situation. Well, the Jews have not repented as a nation, and yet they were able to establish the state which they call Israel in 1948. How did that happen? Well, there's a technical glitch here. It's because world Jewry also includes Edom.

Because Jacob had lied to get the birthright, he had taken it in an unlawful manner. That yet had to be rectified by law. So, eventually, Jacob was going to have to give this birthright back to Esau, so that the natural process could take place, whereby Edom (Esau) would prove himself to be unworthy of it. Then, according to the laws of inheritance, the firstborn son (Esau, in this case) could be disinherited in a lawful manner.

In that case, then Jacob could receive the birthright, in a lawful manner. I believe that this is the purpose of this 70-year cycle from 1948 to 2018. 70 years for which to prove themselves unworthy. 70 years in which to repent, if they were going to do so. But, scripture does not tell us anything about the repentance of Esau.

Now, we know in the Restoration of All Things that every knee will bow, every tongue will confess. But, we're not at that time yet. Every tongue won't confess, I believe, for another thousand years, at the Great White Throne. Meanwhile, what do we do today? How is God treating the situation today? Because there's still this controversy going on, whether people realize it or not.

So, the nation that they call Israel is actually Edom. Which is really a combination of Edom, and the remnant of Judah. But, the government itself is Edom. Because Judah was not allowed, by law, to return to the land, and to reverse the captivity apart from repentance. That's the Law of Tribulation.

So, the birthright name is Israel. So, of course what happened if you look back, Jacob stole Esau's identity in order to get this in the first place. In order to fulfill prophecy. So, by the law of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth this is what happened in 1948, in reverse. Esau, pretended to be Israel (Jacob) in order to get the birthright back.

So, it calls itself Israel, but it's really not Israel at all, and it never was. If Judah had been allowed to return, then it might have been able to take the name of Judah. But, they were not Israel from the start. Israel is the house of Joseph, it's the northern tribes that were taken to Assyria. Not the southern tribes that were taken to Babylon and returned. The northern tribes, called Israel, never returned. They're the ones that hold the actual birthright.

But, when the Jewish nation took the name Israel in 1948, they essentially usurped the birthright. They took it by the same means that Jacob had taken it from Esau way back in the book of Genesis. It's a brilliant plan. And, it is divine justice. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. So, Jacob took advantage of his father's blindness. In 1948, the church was blind, and the Edomites took advantage of that blindness as well.

So, the church has backed the Israeli state thinking they're backing Israel. When, in fact, they're backing Edom, and they don't know it. Because they don't know the scriptures, they don't understand the law, and they don't understand this process has worked since the book of Genesis.

So, this is the controversy of Zion. Who actually controls the dominion mandate, and the birthright (the fruitfulness mandate)? Who's is it? This is the great controversy. It's the controversy between Jacob and Esau. Or, between Israel and Edom, if you will.

This is what Isaiah 34 is talking about. Isaiah 34 is talking about the destruction of the old land. In Isaiah 34:2 it says,

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2 For the Lord's indignation is against all the nations, and His wrath against all their armies; He has utterly destroyed them, He has given them over to slaughter.


Then verse 4 says,

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4 And all the host of heaven will wear away, and the sky will be rolled up like a scroll;


Does that sound familiar? Jesus talked about that as a future prophecy. We're living in this time of the heavens being rolled up like a scroll.

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4 ... All their hosts will also wither away as a leaf withers from the vine, or as one withers from the fig tree.


That's a veiled reference to the cursed fig tree in Matthew 21. which Jesus explained later, when that Fig tree brings forth more leaves, then you know that we're at the very end. Well, they leaves began to grow on the tree in 1948. I was taught that as a child. Virtually the whole church understands that the Israeli state is the fulfillment of that particular prophecy of leaves on the fig tree, because the fig tree was the national symbol of Judah.

But, what they don't seem to understand is that the tree was cursed in the first place, not because it had leaves, but because it had no fruit. And, when Jesus said that more leaves are going to be coming on the tree He didn't say anything about fruit. Why? Because Jesus cursed the fig tree and said "Let no fruit grow on thee, henceforward, forever." So, if fruit ever grows on that fig tree, Jesus will be proven to be a false prophet.

How is it then, that the Israeli state is going to all be converted, and suddenly they're going to all bear fruit unto God? Well, the only way they can say that, is if they take the prophecies of Israel, and apply them to the Israeli state. You can't do that, because these are two different people, and two different sets of prophecies.

This mis-application of prophecy is tricking the whole world. But, understand, God has blinded them in order to give the birthright name to the Jewish state, so that they could prove themselves to be unworthy. And, they will get all the help in the world that they can - from the US, from Europe, and many other places. But, in the end, they're not going to bear fruit.

So, the question has always been, in my mind, how long do they have left to bear fruit? How long before the judgment actually hits? How long before the indignation comes? Or, as we can say now, how long before the flood (which is the indignation) hits the land?

So, we continue reading in Isaiah 34:5,

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5 For My sword is satiated in heaven, Behold it shall descend for judgment upon Edom and upon the people whom I have devoted to destruction.


Well, if Edom has ceased to exist 126 years before Christ was born, who in the world is going to fulfill this prophecy? That's a good question. The only people who it can be fulfilled in, are those who absorbed the Edomites into world Jewry. So, there is more than one set of prophecies that are being fulfilled in the Jewish people in general.

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6 The sword of the Lord is filled with blood, it is sated with fat, with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams. For the Lord has a sacrifice in Bozrah, [the capitol of Edom] and a great slaughter in the land of Edom. ... 8 For the Lord has a day of vengeance, a year of recompense for the cause of Zion.


That's the NASB translation. The King James, I think, is more accurate. It says: "... a year of recompense for the controversy of Zion." It's a controversy because it's a court case. The court case has two sides and they disagree. Jacob and Esau are squaring off, and they're each claiming the birthright, and they're each claiming the name of Israel. This is in the divine court, and that is what is about to be resolved. But the resolution here talks about a great slaughter in the land of Edom,

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9 And its streams shall be turned into pitch, and its loose earth into brimstone, and its land shall become burning pitch. 10 It shall not be quenched night or day; its smoke shall go up forever. From generation to generation it shall be desolate; None shall pass through it forever and ever.


Well, that kind of conjures up a picture of a nuclear incident where the land is burning pitch; it doesn't mean a literal fire, but what about nuclear fallout? That's a type of fire, and if that goes on for generation after generation, the land, I believe, is going to be uninhabitable. Nobody's going to get it. Nobody. And the reason is because it includes the old Jerusalem, which is Hagar, which has to be cast out with her children. Okay?

So, there are many prophecies that all tie into this, but what's most important right now is that we are entering into our room (our closet, or whatever you want to call it) until the indignation is over pass. I wonder, then - it sure looks to me like the Israeli state is about to go into war, and they're about to get nuked, and they're about to get wiped out. That's what it looks like. My advice would be, if anybody is over there, get out - get out of town as quickly as you can. That's what I would say. And I wonder if maybe this is this “one-year cycle” that we're talking about before we come back out of the Ark.

So, I'm not saying that this is the timing of that, but it sure looks like this is going to happen in the coming year, and that that is what this flood is about. That's the negative side of the flood. The positive side, of course, is that there is a flood of the Holy Spirit coming, because His glory is going to fill the earth as the waters cover the sea. And I talked about that - you might want to review that chapter in Secrets of Time where I talk about the flood, and the second flood that is coming and that is prophesied by the first flood. The first flood took the spirit of God out of mankind, and the second flood of the Holy Spirit, puts it back in. And it puts it back in three stages. Three doves being sent out - first at Mount Sinai, second in Jerusalem, and the third one is what is yet to come in our time.

Okay, so, one other thing, too.

When we finished our Jericho march, our main Jericho march, which was a seven-year program from the year 2000 to 2006, Tabernacles of 2000, and the seventh one was Tabernacles of 2006 (or actually the day of atonement in 2006), we ended this with a conference preceded by a prophetic meeting in Babylon, New York, on October 7th, 2006.

And what's interesting was we went to about 3 or 4 places, to do some prophetic work and make some decrees, and the second place where we went to was a cemetery called Mount Ararat. And that started a 150-day cycle to April 15 of 2007. Oh, sorry, 190 days, because at that time we took a 40-day period, and then added 150 days to that - that was how it worked back in those days. That was 12 years ago now.

Well, we're now coming into a secondary thing - again, a Jericho battle is involved, but this time it's more short-term. This is a seven-day cycle that overlays with the Feast of Unleavened Bread, so it's not a seven-year cycle anymore.

So, I don't know, maybe that indicates a "narrowing down" of this, or maybe we're coming to a head - maybe the whole situation is about ready to come to a head. Whatever it means, it looks like we have, first of all, a one-week period here ending the 6th of May, but then we also have a 150-day cycle to the 28th of September. Or, it's possible that it actually might be a 190-day cycle if you treat the 40 days as being separate from the 150 days, so you gotta add them together. If that's the case, I think that it comes out to the 7th of November of this year, and we'll watch that date, but I'm not really sure how that will manifest this time. It seems to be a little different from the way it was back in 2006 to 2007.

But again, events will prove all things out, so we will adjust our view according to what actually happens. We do know, here, that we should watch a year from now - May 2nd of 2019. That seems to be the point where we come out of the Ark - come out of the room where we have been hiding from this indignation, as it were.

So, that is our fairly long-term perspective from where we stand now, as far as our understanding is concerned.

So, I just wanted to share that with you, and I guess we'll just see you all later.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/14/18 05:24 PM

What's the big deal about the Iranian Nuclear Deal pull out

My comment: Currently there's a lot of focus directed towards Iran. In Iran, like in North Korea, the Deep State had used these sanctioned countries for trade and not about safety.

For Europe, the Iran nuclear deal is all about trade : May 7th 2018 http://thehill.com/opinion/international/386540-for-europe-the-iran-nuclear-deal-is-all-about-trade

So the US Deep State people shipped Uranium 1 to Russia so then some of it would be shipped to Iran, North Korea, Syria to allow them to build nuclear weapons. This way, if this dark market is discovered the blame can be cast on Russia.

So as a clean up was done in North Korea to remove the Deep State out of the country, so it is the same with Iran.

Here's what Benjamin Fulford commented about this on his May 14th report :
Originally Posted By: Benjamin Fulford
On this front, the renunciation by U.S. President Donald Trump of the Iran nuclear accord is, on the surface, a major victory for the Zionists. However, Pentagon sources say, “The endgame is to force both Iran and Israel to de-nuke after North Korea, and then have permanent peace in the Middle East.”

The Trump move on the Iran nuclear agreement has certainly triggered open, public bickering between the regime of Donald Trump and various European governments. Thus we have EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker saying the EU had to “replace the United States” …

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ing-allies.html

…while German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Europe could no longer count on U.S. military protection.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...mbrella-anymore

Of course, French President Emmanuel Macron and UK Prime Minister Theresa May also denounced the Trump move. This clear and obvious split between the U.S. and Europe is unprecedented in the post-war era.

However, Pentagon sources insist that, “Trump is pulling out of the Iran deal to take down corrupt EU and U.S. officials who may have been bribed, along with globalist French companies like Airbus, Total, Renault, and Peugeot, as well as German companies like Siemens.” Interestingly, Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif backed up this Pentagon claim by threatening to reveal the names of Western politicians who had been bribed in relation to the nuclear deal.

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2018/05...n-nuclear-deal/


I find the bottom youtube video made by Praying Medic helpful for anyone who wants to know more about this subject. He uses QAnon US Military inside intel in his research.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/15/18 06:41 PM

X22 Report :The Move, Forcing It All Out Into To The Open, Here Comes The Pain

My comment: I forgot to mentioned in the post above to start the Praying Medic video report at the 14:20 min mark to hear about the what's behind the Iranian Nuclear deal.

The X22 Report does a pretty good job connecting lots of dots regarding the Iranian Nuclear deal. Basically Dave from X22 arrives at the same conclusion as Praying Medic.

May 14th, 2018



Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/17/18 10:54 PM


Mueller has told President Trump’s legal team that he will no longer seek to indict President Trump

May 16th, 2018

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=126838

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Rudy Giuliani said Mueller has told President Trump’s legal team that he will no longer seek to indict President Trump.

As reported by foxnews.com

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President Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, told Fox News on Wednesday that special counsel Robert Mueller has told the president's legal team he will follow Justice Department guidance and not seek an indictment against Trump.

Giuliani, himself a former federal prosecutor and mayor of New York City, also told Fox News that Mueller's investigators have not responded to five information requests from the president's team. That has forced Trump's legal team to push off making a decision about whether the president will sit for an interview with the special counsel -- a decision they had hoped to reach by Thursday.

The precedent that federal prosecutors cannot indict a sitting president is laid out in a 1999 Justice Department memo. Giuliani told Fox News that Mueller has no choice but to follow its guidance.

"This case is essentially over," Giuliani said. "They're just in denial."

Giuliani joined Trump's legal team last month and has repeatedly warned that an in-person interview of the president by the special counsel's team would constitute a "perjury trap." Complicating matters, Trump himself has refused to rule out agreeing to an interview with Mueller.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/17/18 10:58 PM

The Birthright transferred

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/05-2018/the-birthright-transferred/

May 17th, 2018

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We left off two weeks ago (May 5, 2018) with God’s appeal for His people to leave Babylon and Egypt. I wrote:

This was a prophetic call to leave “Egypt,” which was a metaphor for bondage and captivity. Both Babylon and Egypt represent the world, its system of laws, morality, and way of life.

Full Blog Post (Quote is near the end of the post)

As I have seen so often, the things I write in these weblogs often become things that I must “walk out” in my own life, either the same day or (in some cases) in the days ahead. When I wrote the above, I had not made the connection between “Egypt” and my trip to Memphis—the prophetic type of Egypt.

To leave Egypt, one must first be in Egypt. In 1985, while living in Batesville, Arkansas, the word of the Lord came to me saying, “When I bring you out of Egypt….” I did not realize at the time that He would bring us to Memphis two years later. But once we had moved to Memphis, I was reminded of this word. Only then did I begin to understand it, and it made me realize that this was an “Egyptian bondage experience.”

Fortunately, that word was also an encouragement to me, since it clearly indicated that our sojourn in “Egypt” was temporary.

It seems that our recent journey to Memphis was also necessary in order to “ascend” to the capstone of the Pyramid. This time, however, being in Memphis was only a setup for the ascension, rather than being the main feature as in 1987-1989. It is plain now that this ascension pictured a greater manifestation of “leaving Egypt.” If Egypt represents the world in general, with its fleshly systems of government and laws, then ascending to the capstone suggests an ascension to the higher order of the Kingdom.

When God led Israel out of Egypt, His purpose was to form them into a Kingdom some weeks later on the day that was later called Pentecost (at Mount Horeb, or Sinai). In their history, ascension day appears to be the day Israel fought the Amalekites in Exodus 17:8. After that battle, Moses built an altar to commemorate their victory, naming it, Yahweh Nissi (“The Lord is My Banner”). Nissi means “something lifted up, standard, banner.”

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H5251&t=NASB

Perhaps Moses was thinking in terms of Aaron and Hur, who lifted up his hands when they were weary (Exodus 17:11, 12). Many have pointed out that Moses’ raised hands pictured a cross. It prophesied of Jesus’ position on the cross. When Jesus was “lifted up,” the nails supported His hands and kept them from dropping. Aaron and Hur were the two nails. Aaron’s name means “light bringer.” Hur’s name means “hole,” and it comes from a root word that means “to bore.”

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H2354&t=NASB

That sounds like a nail to me.

Aaron’s name, as I said, means “light bringer.” Light speaks of truth, even as enlightenment speaks of knowing the truth. The connection between Aaron’s name and truth is seen more clearly in Psalm 60:4,

4 You have given a banner to those who fear You, that it may be displayed because of the truth [qoshet, “balanced truth”].

The Hebrew word translated “truth” in this verse is not emeth, the usual word for truth, but rather qoshet, whose root word means “to balance.”

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H7189&t=NASB

Hence, we see that in Psalm 60:4 David relates the “banner” to balanced truth. Was he thinking of Moses’s arms being held up by Aaron and Hur to picture a balance of truth? As long as Moses’ arms were being held up to form a cross, balanced truth was on display as a banner. Is that how we all must come to know Yahweh Nissi? Certainly, there is a lot of unbalanced truth in the world.

The cross set the stage for Christ’s ascension on the 40th day, which was another way in which He was “lifted up.” If His ascension was timed to coincide with the prophecy in Exodus 17, then it is clear that our own “ascension” to the capstone of the Pyramid on Ascension Day was meant to impart revelation about coming out of Egypt.

In 1989 we left Egypt (i.e., Memphis) but remained on the earth, but in 2018 we left Egypt by ascending. In 1989 I left to get a new job, but in 2018 we ascended to receive the Birthright so that we could do the greater work of making “Egypt My people” (Isaiah 19:25), according to the promise of God.

So in the context of the flood of the Holy Spirit that is coming (and began May 1, 2018 with the coming of Emmet Flood), the revelation appears to be that there is coming a flood of truth (“Emmet”) that will transform the world (“Egypt”) to fulfill God’s New Covenant promise. To accomplish this, the overcomers have been given the Birthright, which includes the Dominion Mandate. This is the spiritual authority to accomplish the purposes of God.

In the big picture, knowing the story of Jacob and Esau and the “controversy of Zion,” it is becoming clear that Esau has had 70 years in which to prove himself worthy. Jacob (“Union Jack”) gave the Birthright back to Esau on May 14, 1948 when the British flag was lowered at midnight of May 13/14 that year. Esau has held the Birthright for 70 years, but now that has changed. God has taken the Birthright away from Esau and has given it to those who are truly called to rule as priests of God and of Christ.

The Birthright has not reverted to Jacob, but it has been given to Israel. That is, it has not been given to children of the flesh or to those who are deceivers and usurpers (the meaning of Jacob). It has been given to those who carry the testimony of God’s sovereignty and who have faith in God’s promises, rather than their own promises to God. Israel means "God rules." In other words, the Birthright is given to the people of the New Covenant, not to those who retain an Old Covenant mindset (misplaced faith).

I believe that is what occurred on May 14, 2018. Our trip to Memphis and the ascension to the capstone the night of May 9 for a meal of venison (elk) gave us the revelation of what God was about to do a few days later. Of course, we did all of this blindly, not knowing the significance of anything at the time.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/17/18 11:09 PM

My comment : As Q has posted in the past few days that the pain is about to start. Here's the first of thousands of sealed indictment to be unsealed and brought to court. The official full court document is available at the first link.

Bring the pain...Anthony Wiener indictment unsealed, full court doc

https://www.puppetstringnews.com/blog/br...-full-court-doc

May 17th, 2018

Originally Posted By: Jordan Sather
Here is the Full Anthony Weiner unsealed indictment court document. Well is the pain officially coming to the global cabal, as Anthony Weiner's full unsealed indictment/court record has been released online? You can only be curious what other sealed indictments we have out there, as there are about 28,500 sealed indictments across the country. Since Anthony Wiener's full court document/indictment has been unsealed, are we going to see those close to Wiener get indictments as well or show up in court documents like Hillary Clinton, Huma Abedin, and others? We truly know whats on Wiener's laptop and whats all involved, as there are 600,000 Hillary emails on Wiener's laptop with pedophilia, pay to play, extortion, and classified emails...And Wiener's indictment/court document has just been unsealed. Oh the joyous pain that's coming to the cabal!


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The Anthony Weiner indictment unsealed, and what it means as a sign of the times

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...n-of-the-times/

May 17th, 2018

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The Anthony Weiner case, which involves all of the files that Huma Abedin put on his laptop, is set to be tried in Brooklyn, NY.

This indictment was delayed because Eric Schneiderman was the Attorney General for NYC, and he was too corrupt to trust with this case. The Trump administration did not want him to prosecute this case and risk the danger of perverted justice.

Now that Schneiderman has resigned and has been replaced by Richard Donoghue, the case is about to hit the courtroom. Yesterday, May 16, the Anthony Weiner indictment was officially unsealed. This is just the first of thousands. It is the start of the “pain” of the Deep State, as justice finally begins to catch up with the criminals in government and other prominent places.

I find it interesting that this has occurred shortly after the 70th anniversary of the Israeli state (May 14). I do not think that is a coincidence, though perhaps it was unintentional on the part of the Trump administration and the Justice Department.

I see this unsealed indictment as a sign of the start of divine justice upon Mystery Babylon.

It has begun.

I would actually date its start on May 14, 2018.

Divine justice will fall on whoever is in control of Mystery Babylon today. Remember that the baton has been passed down through four main “beast” empires, plus a few extensions (“horns”). The latest change of dominion took place 70 years ago in order to satisfy Esau’s claim (or cause) in the divine court.

In 1948 the dominion mandate (and Birthright as a whole) was given back to Esau, and this included everything that Mystery Babylon had been given to rule as far back as the time of Jeremiah and Daniel.

The stone is now hitting the image on its feet, as prophesied in Daniel 2:34, 35.

Jesus referenced this prophecy in Matthew 21:44,

44 And he who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust.

Daniel 2:35 says that Babylon “became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found.”

Jesus was warning the Jews that they ought not to be in control of this Babylonian image in the day that the stone hits its feet. As it turned out, the Edomite faction within world Jewry, which goes by the name of Zionism, demanded the Dominion Mandate, and their petition in the divine court was granted in 1948. This put them in a position of authority over all that the beast nations had ruled since 604 B.C.

If they had taken heed to Jesus’ warning in Matthew 21:44, they might have avoided the pain that will surely come upon them. Better yet, if they had repented of their hostility to Jesus Christ (as demanded by the law in Leviticus 26:40, 41, 42), they might never have lost the Dominion Mandate, but would have continued to rule in the Kingdom Age. However, prophecy makes it clear that Esau-Edom was not called to rule the Kingdom, so it was inevitable that the Zionists would NOT repent. Instead, the stone will crush them.

I know that there are Spirit-filled churches in Jerusalem today and that they understand that Jerusalem is soon to be destroyed. They are prepared to leave the city, even as the early church in Jerusalem left before the city was destroyed by the Romans in 70 A.D. God always spares His people when the nation or city is destroyed. My suggestion to them—if anyone is listening—is to prepare to leave soon. The time is approaching.

By the way, in Matthew 21:42-44 Jesus gave the Jews two warning prophecies. The first was about the stone that the builder rejected. The second was about the stone that would fall upon the feet of Babylon. It is significant that last week we were led to go to the capstone of the Pyramid in Memphis to observe the stone that the builders rejected. A few days later was May 14, when the stone began to hit the feet of the image.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/19/18 03:19 PM

MSM Debunk : Trump did not call immigrants animals

My comment : We have heard from main stream media (MSM) that Trump called the immigrants animals. Well the truth of the matter is that MSM edited out the important part about a question directed to Trump about MS-13 gang (international criminal gang mostly from Central America). Trump wasn't referring to immigrants but this MS-13 group. Below is Mark Dice video who specializes in debunking MSM continual lies. Also there's a video clip of the non-edited version.



Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/19/18 04:50 PM

My comment : Maybe the Antony Weiner recent indictment brought to court is starting to produce some "May flowers" that QAnon was alluding to.

The RCC (Pope Francis) is not providing any protection like it used to in the past. Things are changing....even in the RCC.

All 34 Bishops In Chile Suddenly Resign Over "Absolutely Deplorable" Pedophile Priest Scandal

May 18, 2018

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-1...edophile-priest
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/23/18 06:10 PM

The spying scandal

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/05-2018/the-spying-scandal/

May 23rd, 2018

Quote:
The latest scandal to hit the DC swamp is how the CIA, FBI, and NAS teamed up on President Obama’s orders to place some spies in the Trump campaign. I watched an interview with two long-time members of the intelligence committee who affirmed that any time three intelligence organizations coordinate their efforts, it is ALWAYS at the direction of the president.

So Trump has now directed the Department of Justice to investigate this. If the charges are corroborated, it will be a scandal bigger than Watergate. At the center of the controversy is Stefan A. Halper, who was an experienced infiltrator in such cases, having done the same thing to the Jimmy Carter campaign in 1980. Back then he did it on behalf of the Republican Party that was being backed by the CIA. This time it was on behalf of the Democratic Party that was being backed by the CIA, FBI, and NSA.

On May 21, 2018 President Trump met with FBI director Christopher Wray and Rod Rosenstein from the Department of Justice, directing them to investigate this infiltration/spying information.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/donald...ntial-campaign/

Stefan Halper is not new to this type of spying activity. He was caught doing the same thing in 1980 when the CIA was trying to help the Reagan-Bush campaign by spying on the Carter campaign. Bush, of course, had been the director of the CIA in the 1970’s, and Reagan’s campaign manager was later appointed as director of the CIA (1981-1987).

The role of George Bush, Sr in the Halper scandal was probably quite considerable.

At any rate, Stefan Halper is again at the center of a similar scandal. The NY Times writes:

Originally Posted By: NY Times
https://www.nytimes.com/1983/07/07/us/re...-on-carter.html

An operation to collect inside information on Carter Administration foreign policy was run in Ronald Reagan's campaign headquarters in the 1980 Presidential campaign, according to present and former Reagan Administration officials.

Those sources said they did not know exactly what information the operation produced or whether it was anything beyond the usual grab bag of rumors and published news reports. But they said it involved a number of retired Central Intelligence Agency officials and was highly secretive.

The sources identified Stefan A. Halper, a campaign aide involved in providing 24-hour news updates and policy ideas to the traveling Reagan party, as the person in charge. Mr. Halper, until recently deputy director of the State Department's Bureau of Politico-Military Affairs and now chairman of the Palmer National Bank in Washington, was out of town today and could not be reached. But Ray S. Cline, his father-in-law, a former senior Central Intelligence official, rejected the account as a ''romantic fallacy.''

The Reagan campaign team used the term ''October surprise'' to refer to the possibility that President Carter might take some dramatic action with regard to the hostage situation in Iran or some other action to try to turn the tide of the election….

Mr. Casey, the Director of Central Intelligence, who was Mr. Reagan's campaign director, said in an interview Tuesday that such a surprise was of special concern to Reagan strategists….


Mr. Bush was Director of Central Intelligence under President Ford, and former Bush aides said today that many former C.I.A. officials had offered their help in the Bush campaign.

It appears that the job of draining the swamp is quite stinky. Expect more stink to rise as time goes on.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/23/18 06:31 PM

My comment : Another good concise X22 report of the current events. Dave does mention that the MSM(Mainstream Media) is starting to backpedal their RussiaGate claims (see sott article below). Also Dave concludes the same as Stephen about Trump strategy to push a division of Europe from the Deep State (Mystery Babylon) with the new Iran Sanction (see Stephen Jones' News article below).

X22: Q Asks Who Is In Control, Then Shows Us

May 21st, 2018



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NYTimes, WashPo, Guardian have started backpedaling on RussiaGate

https://www.sott.net/article/386310-NYTimes-WashPo-Guardian-have-started-backpedaling-on-RussiaGate

May 22nd, 2018

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Dividing Babylon to conquer it

May 21st, 2018

Quote:
In Genesis 11:8 we read about Babylon,

8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped building the city.

The present New World Order has proudly and openly modeled itself after Babylon.

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/eu-parliament-building-tower-babel-common/

Of course, the USA has also been part of the New World Order of Babylon, because this has been a world-wide system. Any government that has refused to submit to it has been sanctioned, invaded, or destroyed. But God is now dividing this modern manifestation of Babylon.

The EU Balkans summit on May 16, 17 saw a historic turn of events, centered around the Iran nuclear issue. The US government has withdrawn from the deal and has imposed sanctions on any country that does business with Iran. But the European countries have already set up business relations with Iran since the Obama administration concluded the deal, including the purchase of Iranian oil. They have gone too far to back out now.

Essentially, Trump has backed them into a corner, and so the EU has decided to defy the US sanctions and continue with the Obama plan. This has caused a major rift in the New World Order. On May 17, the EU officially decided to break with the US policy.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2...lationship.html

Washington’s unilateral withdrawal from the JPCOA was the last straw, forcing the collapse of Western unity. The Europeans found themselves up against a wall…

Washington does not shy away from threatening its allies with punitive measures but the EU is standing tall, deepening the rift…

The process of shifting away from America does not boil down to just words of indignation and open defiance. Plans are underway to take practical steps. For instance, the EU is to ditch the use of the US currency in its payments for Iranian oil. It can be done. Russia and Iran have already launched an oil-for-goods exchange program in order to leave the greenback behind…

Sandra Oudkirk, US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Energy, has just threatened to sanction the Europeans if they continue with the Nord Stream 2 pipeline project to bring gas in from Russia across the Baltic Sea…

Iran and Nord Stream 2 unite Moscow and Brussels in their opposition to this diktat. On May 17, Iran signed a provisional free-trade-zone agreement with a Russia-led Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) that seeks to increase the current levels of trade valued at $2.7 billion. The deal lowers or abolishes customs duties. It also establishes a three-year process for reaching a permanent trade agreement. If Iran becomes a member of the group, it would expand its economic horizons beyond the Middle Eastern region. So, Europe and Russia are in the same boat, both holding talks with Iran on economic cooperation...

May 17 marked a turning point in the US-European relationship.

What is happening here?

First of all, I see this as a prophetic repeat of Genesis 11:8, where God divided the people in order to force them to stop building their Tower of Babel. But what about the mechanics of this?

It is apparent that US President Donald Trump is the one who has divided Babylon. Or, to put it another way, Trump is at war with Babylon. In this way he also compares with King Cyrus, ironically, the Persian (Iranian) king who conquered Babylon. The Israelis recently struck a medal comparing Trump with Cyrus in order to honor him for moving the US embassy to Jerusalem on May 14, 2018. See it pictured here:

http://www.wnd.com/2018/04/new-coin-minted-to-fund-building-jerusalem-temple/

It looks to me like those who backed Trump in his run for the presidency, the so-called “White Hats” fighting the Deep State, are looking beyond US borders. It appears that they realize that getting rid of the Deep State in America must also include breaking the power of Babylon in Europe. So they devised an elaborate plan first to cause a rift between the US and the EU, which essentially breaks the power of the international bankers who have controlled the world for so long.

The Federal Reserve Bank is owned by twelve international banking families, who use the US dollar to rule the world economically and politically. But now the EU has decided to ditch the US dollar in their purchases of oil from Iran and Russia—and probably everywhere else. This will have enormous implications. It really marks the beginning of the end of US dollar hegemony. The decision to phase out the US dollar as the world currency is now out in the open.

The question is if this result was unforeseen by Trump and his backers or if it was part of the plan to overthrow the New World Order. From what I have observed, the Trump team has shown remarkable talent in its planning. Intelligent as he is, Trump did not come up with this plan, nor could he have implemented it by himself if he had tried. The plan now seems to be taking shape where we can see it for what it is.

I have often wondered if Trump is truly backing the Israeli state and Zionism. Was this decision to move the embassy to Jerusalem, for instance, really an indication of his support for Zionism? His daughter’s marriage to Jared Kushner, long-time friend of Netanyahu, makes it appear that Trump is truly a Zionist. But the real issue is whether Trump’s backers—those who devised this plan over decades—are Zionists. Do THEY know where most of these modern wars originate? I think that they do. They are part of the intelligence community, after all.

Here is my take on the plan.

I think Trump’s support of the Israeli state is part of a larger deception. He (or “they”) knew that to be successful, they had to “divide and conquer.” So they pushed divisive issues. The Zionist project has been very divisive for the past century or more, particularly in the Mideast. The Iranian issue is also divisive, given the fact that Obama made some sort of deal with Iran. The deal was not a treaty, because we have since learned that no papers were ever signed by either side. This gave Trump the perfect (legal) excuse to walk away from it.

https://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/25/o...egally-binding/

After walking away from the Iranian nuclear deal, Trump then imposed sanctions on Iran, forcing EU businesses into a corner. I think Trump knew that the EU would not be able to comply with his sanctions and that this would divide the New World Order. This is not just a clash of wills to see who will get their way. This is a calculated policy to divide the West in order to break the power of the New World Order (Babylon).

That policy is working, I believe, as planned. If not Trump himself, then certainly his backers knew how the sanctions would force Europe into this position.

Personally, I have opposed the US government’s support of Zionism (biblical Edom) as well as the use of sanctions. The use of sanctions is a short-term solution designed to pressure nations into complying with US policy. However, it has also brought about a reaction from China and Russia, who have been working to create an alternative system (CIPS) to bypass the Fed and the US dollar.

The New World Order has a long history of being short-sighted, including their use of journalists to skew honest reporting. In that case, eventually people would catch on and realize that the mainstream media is largely “fake news” designed to support the NOW. Soon it was no longer an independent media, but government controlled.

The same short-sighted policy is seen in the use of economic sanctions, where offending nations are no longer able to make payments or to receive payments through the SWIFT system which runs all payments through the Federal Reserve Bank. When the Fed blocked payments to and from sanctioned nations, it was inevitable that they would start thinking about setting up an alternative system.

And then it was only a matter of time before the SWIFT system became irrelevant and the dollar lost its power as well.

Now the time is ripe for division in the Babylonian camp. May 17 was a major turning point. In the guise of making Iran and Russia our enemy, Trump has forced the EU to make them their friends! You see, it is not just that the EU is dividing from America; it is that the EU is uniting with Russia! Whereas the previous policy of Babylon (the Brzezinski Doctrine) has been to treat Russia as the enemy of the West, Trump’s policy has brought Europe and Russia together.

Economic alliances are precursors to political alliances. The new pipeline from Russia to German though the Baltic Sea is one of those major factors, as the article above shows. Just a few years ago the EU supported the Ukrainian break from Russia, and the oil stopped flowing through the pipelines that passed through Ukraine. This was a blatant attempt to cut off Russia’s income and to supply Europe with oil and gas from American and European oil companies.

But Trump’s sanctions policy has now reversed this. The Ukraine government is not happy about the Nord Stream 2 pipeline in the Baltic Sea, which undermines the country’s strategic importance. As the Ukraine becomes more and more irrelevant in the bigger picture, they will come to regret breaking with Russia and joining with Europe.

The point is that the Brzezinski Doctrine, set forth in the 1994 book, The Grand Chessboard, has been failing ever since China began setting up its CIPS system to replace SWIFT.

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...inski-doctrine/

Babylon’s worst nightmare is coming true with pipelines, railroads, and highways being built across Asia. It is called the Silk Road project. This huge project, financed largely by China’s banks, threatens to move the world’s center of gravity from Europe to Asia. That is what Brzezinski foresaw when he wrote his book above, and that is why he advocated a policy of containing Russia instead of befriending Russia.

Trump has merely taken that policy to its logical conclusion. I believe that he and his backers understood that the Brzezinski Doctrine would have the opposite effect in the long run. The capstone on this policy was the withdrawal from the Iranian nuclear deal and the increase of sanction. This has broken the back of the Brzezinski Doctrine and has forced Europe to join with Russia, Iran, and (by extension) with China.

In other words, the Eurasian Economic Union, first proposed in 1994 and signed into existence in 2014, will soon include the European nations. It appears that eventually the EU and the EEU could merge into a single economic union. That would bring a final end to the West’s war against Russia caused by the Brzezinski Doctrine.

The bottom line is that we ought to look most closely at Trump’s policies. In the short term, they seem ill conceived, but in the long term his policies are dividing Babylon in order to overthrow the New World Order. The only question is whether or not this is deliberate or inadvertent. Perhaps I am giving Trump’s backers more credit than they deserve, but my view is that they are quite intelligent and know exactly what they are doing.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/25/18 07:56 PM

China's and Russia's Role in Defeating Mystery Babylon in Syria

My comment : In the article below, China has offered Syria great war reconstruction funds. One of the reason why Mystery Babylon (or the Deep State, Cabals, Banking Cartels, etc...) was trying to destroy Syria and put their banks and puppet ruler there, is because Syria is a very important trade route going to Europe.

Mystery Babylon with the aid of the controlled Western countries wants to control Syria for their Unipolar (One World) agenda; whereas China's is interested to develop Syria for the One Belt One Road (OBOR) project in promoting a Multipolar world by ensuring all countries maintain their sovereignty.

We see emphasized in this article and in the news that China's contribution to defeat Mystery Babylon is financial; whereas Russia is military. We know that Old Babylon was destroyed by the Medes(King Cyrus) and the Persian(King Darius). We know from scriptures and from the archeological finding of Cyrus' scroll that Cyrus contributed financially to reconstruct many countries cities and temples. Whereas it was Darius and his army that defeated militarily Old Babylon.

So we see a replay of the Old Babylon destruction which is a prophesy of the destruction of Mystery Babylon. This is confirm with Rev 16:12 that tells us that the 6th bowl poured on the earth for the destruction of Mystery Babylon involves the Kings of the Easts. Also the events being played since 2010 with China and Russia being the leading countries that is challenging Mystery Babylon today.

Today China is playing the financial role of Cyrus, King of the Medes. Whereas Russia's contribution is military as it was with Darius, the Persian King.

Enter the dragon: China’s crucial role in winning Syria peace

May 24th, 2018

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/427699-china-syria-business-peace/

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|"China is stepping up its involvement in Syria, not with its military, but with cash – and lots of it. For Beijing, war-torn Syria is a golden opportunity for reconstruction business. For Damascus, prosperity means peace.

... Beijing and Damascus are on the same page when it comes to envisaging the rebuilding of Syria through partnership.

... Firms from China are reportedly queuing up to win contracts for rebuilding entire towns and villages, roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, and communication networks devastated by nearly seven years of war.

... Russia and Iran certainly were crucial to President Assad’s forces winning the military war. But now it is China which is becoming crucial to winning the peace.

“Western powers are reluctant to help rebuild Syria after its civil war,” reported Bloomberg. “Because they think the wrong side won.” It seems that the US and European Union are deliberately withholding money as a lever on pressuring “political transition” in Syria, which is a euphemism for regime change. The Western powers backed a seven-year insurgency to topple Assad, but they lost. Now, it seems, what these powers couldn’t achieve militarily, they are trying to do through financial coercion.

Of course, if international law was fairly applied, the US and its allies should be mandated to pay war damages given their responsibility for unleashing much of the violence on Syria.

Unfortunately, that just and reasonable outcome is unlikely, given the inveterate double standards of Western powers.

...China’s involvement in Syria fits perfectly with its grand global vision of One Belt, One Road (OBOR) economic integration. Historically, Syria was a vital node in the centuries-old Silk Routes that fanned out from China across Asia to Europe and Africa. Today, Syria’s position as a strategic crossroads between Asia, Europe and Africa is no less important.

...That is why China is viewing Syria as an urgent priority. Without security and stability in the Levant, much of China’s global plans for reviving the Silk Roads are imperiled. No doubt, Russia is well aware of this essential part of the geopolitical jigsaw puzzle.

...One may surmise that Russia and China are working in tandem with regard to pursuing peace in Syria, albeit in a quietly spoken way. Russia’s military power played an essential role in bringing the violence in Syria to an end. But now China is taking on the task of turning the diminished violence into a viable, lasting peace through reconstruction and economic revival.

... Western machinations over Syria have been a failure. The illegal war that Washington, Britain, France and their regional partners prosecuted has been a miserable waste. Now those same villains are trying to delay Syria’s peace by using financial weapons.

But if China steps in with its colossal economic power, the attempted Western isolation of Syria will only turn out to be another huge loss. Ever the shrewd strategists, China can turn Western depredations into an immensely rewarding opportunity.

If Syria gets back on its feet with peace and stability, it will be China, Russia, Iran and the entire Eurasian region that are the big winners. Moreover, that strategic economic integration will also spell further demise for America’s global power.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 05/25/18 08:00 PM

My comment : China is making good financial alliance with many countries in need. Here's some other recent alliances, beside Syria (see post above), made just in yesterday's news.

The Emerging China-Iran-Pakistan Alliance Is Directed Decidedly Against The United States

May 24th, 2018

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-2...t-united-states
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/04/18 05:23 PM

My comment : Here's some misc. articles that I thought interesting from the news that I had tagged.

De-Dollarization Escalates: "African Economy Needs More Usage Of Chinese Yuan"
Jun 2nd, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-0...ge-chinese-yuan

The "Axis Of Gold" Will Drive Gold Higher by the End of 2018
May 26th, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-26/axis-gold-will-drive-gold-higher-end-2018

"A Calamitous Collapse": Former Podesta Group Employees Reveal Truth Behind Firm's Downfall
Aprl 19th, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-1...th-behind-firms

Belgium: First Islamic State In Europe?
April 24th, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-24/belgium-first-islamic-state-europe
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/04/18 05:56 PM

My comment : North Korea peace deal appears to be already agreed before the peace talk summit scheduled on June 12th as North Korea had destroyed their nuclear test site on May 24th.

https://www.rt.com/news/427716-nkorea-nuclear-site-video/

The MSM were caught in their lies once more.



Currently the peace talk summit is still on. North Korea has committed to denuclearized their country; but requires that other countries also gets denuclearized including Israel and Iran. This is what is being pushed ahead by the Trump team, Russia, and middle eastern countries.

Also, there is secret peace talk between Afghanistan and the Taliban people. If successful (which I think it will) then that's another country that the US troops will be removed.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/04/18 06:13 PM

My comment : Here's a very interesting interview of Robert David Steele , a former CIA officer with a broad knowledge of world affairs. In this interview he talks about Iran, Koreas, Jerusalem, Palestinians, Zionist, QAnon, GCR, & more.

ARTK#175 Robert David Steele - IRAN, KOREAS, JERUSALEM, PALESTINIANS, QANON, GCR, & MORE.



Notice how he differentiate between the Zionist and the Jewish people. The Zionist are satanist while the real religious Jewish people are not. At several places when he talks about Israel, he means the Zionists who are currently the leaders of the Jewish state, that brought the Balfour declaration in the 1940s and is stirring all this aggression with the Palestinians and the other middles Easterns countries. He says it is "Israel"(the Zionist) who are the real terrorist.

Basically he's saying that the Zionist project to create the Israel State is coming to an end.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/06/18 12:54 AM

Originally Posted By: APL
From the link, quote: "Don't Fear - Intention Is What Counts"
Yeah, don't need to worry about the details, just what you feel is right.

"...there is no undisputed authority today to tell us the right calendar reckoning and end all the dispute we now see."

"That you want to celebrate the "festivals of Yehovah" (Lev 23:1,4) because they are from God is already pleasing to God."

Hmmm... They are from God, but we can't figure out when it is??? But everyone do just what they feel is right.
MmmHmmm.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/06/18 01:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Quote:
Currently we are in the 2nd passover watch dates
You can't even support when the Jewish year starts.....

??? Only a day difference from the Nehemiah Gordon Barley report and the Karaite Korner's Jewish Calendar.

https://escapeallthesethings.com/holy-day-calendar/

There are others who say it is a month difference. But that doesn't answer my question, You can't even support when the Jewish year starts.

Unless....you are saying the link says we are to look to Jerusalem. So in that case, when do you say the "spring Passover" for Argentina is?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/06/18 02:14 AM

But old Jerusalem will never be a sacred place until it is cleansed by the refining fire from heaven. The darkest blot of guilt rests upon the city that refused the light of Christ. {Lt26-1895}

The city of Jerusalem is no longer a sacred place. The curse of God is upon it because of the rejection of Christ, the crucifixion of the only begotten Son of God. The darkest blot of guilt is upon Jerusalem, and never again will it be a sacred place until it has been cleansed by the purifying fires of heaven. When this sin-cursed earth is purified from every stain of sin, Christ will again stand upon the Mount of Olives; and as His feet shall rest upon it, it will part asunder and become a great plain, prepared for the city of God. {Lt100-1895}
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/07/18 09:18 AM

Quote:
Elle : Currently we are in the 2nd passover watch dates

Kland : You can't even support when the Jewish year starts.....

Elle : ??? Only a day difference from the Nehemiah Gordon Barley report and the Karaite Korner's Jewish Calendar.

https://escapeallthesethings.com/holy-day-calendar/

Kland : There are others who say it is a month difference. But that doesn't answer my question, You can't even support when the Jewish year starts.

Unless....you are saying the link says we are to look to Jerusalem. So in that case, when do you say the "spring Passover" for Argentina is?

I have already answered you this several times. For sure, my expression level is not the best and not as clear as it should be. My last attempt was in this discussion March 8th, 2018 in #Post186153.

As you should know by now, I do NOT believe we are to look to Jerusalem to determine the Feasts watch dates (or even the Sabbath). As I have shared with you at least twice in the past in other discussion that God told us via the prophet Jeremiah and shown via Ezekiel that Jerusalem [old Jerusalem that is] is no longer the place where God's name [glory] reside.
Below is what we discussed in the Are the Feast Days and Sabbaths still Binding? discussion #Post172912, and #Post172974
Originally Posted By: post#172912
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
It boils down to, do we look to Old Jerusalem or not. I believe Ellen White says not.

I agree.

Originally Posted By: kland
Therefore, we don't base our days from Old Jerusalem, we don't base our years from Old Jerusalem, we don't base our seasons from Old Jerusalem, and we don't keep the feast days and other rites and ceremonies of Old Jerusalem.

I agree.

Old Jerusalem was not always the location where to keep the feasts or other rites. In the law, the specific place to keep the feasts is NOT specified -- for a very good reason. The Lord foreknew that this location would change through TIME. The law says to keep the feast wherever His name/glory will be.

AV Dt 16:16 Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles: and they shall not appear before the LORD empty:

AV Dt 16:2 Thou shalt therefore sacrifice the passover unto the LORD thy God, of the flock and the herd, in the place which the LORD shall choose to place his name there.

The place the Lord chose to place His Name/Glory changed location through TIME :

1. 40 years in the wilderness : His name/glory was manifested in the Sanctuary Tent depending on wherever the location they were encamping.

2. Shiloh : Reside there for about 400 years until it departed from there and never return back because of the corruption of the Priesthood (1Sam 4:21, Ps 78:59-69).

3. Jerusalem : Reside there for about 300 years until it departed from there and never return back because of the corruption of the Priesthood (Jer 7:11-14, Ez 10- 11)

4. Mt. Olives : Ezekiel saw the glory departing from the temple in Jerusalem and rested on the mountain on the east side of the city which is Mt. Olives.

Ez 10:18 “Then the glory of the LORD departed from off the threshold of the house, and stood over the cherubims…Ez 11:22 Then did the cherubims lift up their wings, and the wheels beside them; and the glory of the God of Israel [was] over them above. 23. And the glory of the LORD went up from the midst of the city, and stood upon the mountain which [is] on the east side of the city.

Here’s some interesting notes about Mount of Olives :

a) It is 2000 cubits from the city which is considered “outside the camp” and “a Sabbath day’s journey.”
b) It is said that this is where the ashes of the red heifer was stored(Num 19:3)
c) It is the place where David made his sacrifice(2 Sam 15:30) which b) & c) both pointed to Jesus sacrifice.
d) It is the place where Jesus often went to pray
e) Also the place He ascended in sight of his disciples 40 days after He died(Acts 1:12).

5. Forehead of Believers : Then from the Mt.Olives the next place that the glory of the Lord was seen and manifested was at the upper room at Pentecost and the people there received an deposit of the Spirit.

AV Re 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. .

Where to Keep the Feasts & rites TODAY?

So according to the last revelation and where His glory/name was last manifested – at #5 location.

So my understanding is the place to keep the feasts today is between our two ears.


Below is expanding what I meant with "the place to keep the feasts today is between our two ears".

To add clarity to that statement, since we Christian should have and live with a New covenant understanding of the Old Testament writings... the symbolism of the Temple when Israel was in the wilderness during the 40 years of wondering or the Temple in Jerusalem during 300 years or so before it was destroyed by God the first time.....with a new covenant understanding Paul tells us this represents our body. 1Cor 6:19 "Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you". We are individually or collectively the Temple of the Lord where His glory resides. 1Pet 2:5 "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ." This was the greater spiritual meaning that the Old Testaments writings were pointing to.

The Temple were His glory or name resides is not in the old Jerusalem, but it is in you and all of us. The Temple in the desert or in old Jerusalem was teaching us and pointing to -- God dwelling in US and what He is fulfilling in US via the feasts, all the sacrificial rituals, and other laws that points to greater spiritual things that is happening and more to come.

Since it is NOT the OLD Jerusalem we are to set the TIMES; but by the NEW Jerusalem (Paul explains this in Galatian 4) which represents a NEW Covenant type of marriage to God like Sarah had with Abraham. Sarah was a FREE Woman as oppose to the SLAVE Woman that Hagar represented. Hagar represented -- the Old Jerusalem -- that had an Old Covenant type of marriage with Abraham and was cast out. The old Jerusalem was cast out in Jeremiah's time. We need to get with God's revelation and understanding.

So below is what I said to you 3 years ago in #Post172974.

Originally Posted By: #Post172974
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: elle
So my understanding is the place to keep the feasts today is between our two ears.
So you are saying we are to determine the beginning of the year from between our two ears?


Which beginning of the year are you referring to? Rosh Hashanah (day of Trumpet) or first of Abib? Rosh Hashanah literally means head of year. It is the Jewish recognize NEW YEAR.

http://www.chabad.org/holidays/JewishNewYear/template_cdo/aid/4762/jewish/What-Is-Rosh-Hashanah.htm

God created the evening (or darkness) before the day (or light). A new day starts in the evening after sundown. My understanding is Rosh hashanah(1st day of trumpet around fall equinox) is based on this pattern. The fall equinox is when the day time are mostly dark.

Rosh Hashanah is when I believe (like the Jews) the world was created thus when the earth calendar started.

Abib is not based on creation day, but based on Passover -- the spiritual birth. The month of Abib was a memorial set for the birth of God’s firstborn coming out of Egypt. (Ex 13:3,9; Deut 16:1; Ex 4:22) All needed to be circumcised to keep the Passover when they got out. As a new born nation, they got baptized in the red sea(1Cor 10:1,2). It was a new beginning for the nation --a new corporate spiritual birth experience. The Passover set the pattern of the beginning of the path of the new spiritual life. Other feasts shows other level of spiritual growth, but any spiritual journey all starts at Passover. That's what I understand the Lords means with Abib being the first month to you.

AV Ex 12:2 This month [Abib] [shall be] unto you the beginning of months: it [shall be] the first month of the year to you.

“First month of the year TO YOU.” This doesn’t mean that there ain’t any other first month of the year for the Lord.

Originally Posted By: kland
Meaning each person has their own personalized start of year...


There’s many type of starts of year and there’s many appointed times. The Hebrew word for feasts is mow`ed that means an "appointed time". There’s many appointed times other than the feasts. Also there's many calendars and time cycle other than day, week, month, and year that the Lord has establish and uses to make many events happen.

Some Points:

-I think Rosh-hashanah supercedes Abib 1 as start of year,

-the start of year from Abib was added during Exodus

-some appointed time were instructed to be observed 40 years later. (Only the Passover was observed in the Wilderness, however Pentecost and Tabernacle was only observed when they entered the promised land),

-the form of observance of appointed times were changed at the cross (sacrifice of animals, worship in physical Temples, Priesthood only of Levites bloodlines, etc…).

Originally Posted By: kland
Meaning each person has their own personalized start of year, widely different from the northern to southern hemisphere? For that was what was under discussion.


Concerning the first of Abib based on the barley ripeness and the sighting of the first crescent of the moon -- these were Types and shadows of greater things to come. You seem to be still stuck in the “Old Covenant” form of worship.

Jerusalem timing, northern to southern hemispher -- it is all irrelevant today. Jerusalem is no longer the place where the Lord’s name is located. The location has changed place like it changed location many times in the past :

i) when they entered Canaan,
ii)like it departed from Shiloh after the corruption of the Priesthood,
iii)like it departed from Jerusalem as told by Jeremiah and seen by Ezekiel.
iv)The new location for His name/glory to dwell is in our body temple.

Old Jerusalem was only a symbolism of greater things to come. Jerusalem was pointing to our body temple.

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: elle
So my understanding is the place to keep the feasts today is between our two ears.
So you are saying we are to determine the beginning of the year from between our two ears?
Meaning each person has their own personalized start of year


Those that hear and follow Jesus does not follow their own thoughts, words, interpretation, or appointed time. They follow only the Lord’s appointed time. Much more than those of the feasts.


Spiritually speaking -- the overcomers(the matured Barley) OBSERVE the "new moons" (what the Lord does during the feasts time).


Kland you are both applying the New covenant incorrectly by saying the Feasts are no longer relevant when we all know that the Fall Feasts are still not yet fulfilled and still waiting for its fulfillment at Jesus 2nd coming; AND applying the Old covenant mindset when debating when to start the Sabbath and the feast dates according to the Old Jerusalem.

To repeat what I tried to tell you in #Post186153, to determine when to start the Feast year is by the EVENTS set by God and perceived by His people who can hear His voice and are watching what God is doing year after year during the Feast watch dates.

Every year God is fulfilling a step that brings His plan closer to His ultimate purpose in cleansing our body temple, individually and collectively. Not only the 144K's (the overcomers) body temple, but also the overall beleivers' body temple and the rest of the world's (unbelievers) body temple. The overcomers are the first tagma="squadron" to be cleans (see 1Cor 15:22-24); while the other 2 squadrons are cleans in different time.

The EVENTS are set by God(Eph 1:11 "...predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will")....and to my understanding, it is what sets when the Feast year starts. God fulfills major events on the feast dates. It is not by the old Jerusalem barley harvest time and the time of the first crescent of the moon or the Hillel calculations or whatever other means religious groups uses to set their feasts calendar.

So this year, the EVENTS set the year calendar just one day earlier than the Karaite Jewish calendar by which they go by the barley harvest in Jerusalem and the sighting of the first crescent by which to my view it is the most Biblical approach compare to other Religious groups calendar. I was not saying to use the Karaite calendar nor their methods...but just making the point that God's set dates by EVENTS was close to the Karaite's calendar this year.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/07/18 10:44 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
But old Jerusalem will never be a sacred place until it is cleansed by the refining fire from heaven. The darkest blot of guilt rests upon the city that refused the light of Christ. {Lt26-1895}

The city of Jerusalem is no longer a sacred place. The curse of God is upon it because of the rejection of Christ, the crucifixion of the only begotten Son of God. The darkest blot of guilt is upon Jerusalem, and never again will it be a sacred place until it has been cleansed by the purifying fires of heaven. When this sin-cursed earth is purified from every stain of sin, Christ will again stand upon the Mount of Olives; and as His feet shall rest upon it, it will part asunder and become a great plain, prepared for the city of God. {Lt100-1895}

I do agree that the Old Jerusalem is no longer the sacred place. But I do not agree with the underlined and bolded section. I don't know where Ellen got her scriptures to support that; but she doesn't have the understanding of Galatian 4 of the New Jerusalem via the old Jerusalem that needs to be cast out, nor the coming destruction of Old Jerusalem as prophecied in Jer 19 and Isaiah 29.

Jer 19:11 "And shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Even so will I break this people and this city, as one breaketh a potter's vessel, that cannot be made whole again"

The underlined portion of the prophecy above says that the Old Jerusalem will never be made whole again.

Gal 4:22 "22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem [the OLD Jerusalem] which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

26 But Jerusalem which is above[the NEW Jerusalem] is free, which is the mother of us all.

27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.
"

So according to scriptures and prophecies, Hagar who represents an old covenant marriage and who answers to the Old Jerusalem, and her children who was conceive by the flesh --- has to be cast out.

So we need to stop answering to the Old Jerusalem that was only types and shadows by which the Israelites were slaves via an old covenant mindset (salvation depends on our promises -- "All that the LORD hath spoken we will do." Ex 19:8). We are to become children of the free woman who answers to the New Jerusalem that is above that has a new covenant mindset(salvation depends on God's promises -- to write His laws in our hearts. Jer 31:33).
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/08/18 06:20 PM

My comment : Below is a few articles relating to Israel. Remember that the Israel state is run by the Zionist Leaders (that includes the Banking Cabal) who are Satanist and not your typical Jewish believer.

1. Describes the cruel blood shedding in the Gaza strip by the Israel state and its army IDF (Israel Defence Force). MSM (Mainstream Media) doesn't cover this and when they do it is to side with the Israel state.

2. Media shielding policy of Israel.

3. Israel doesn't have ISIS anymore to do their dirty works in Syria.

4. The dark relations between UK and Israel.

The Death of Razan al-Najjar and Israel's Culture of Impunity

June 8th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/387577-The-Death-of-Razan-al-Najjar-and-Israels-Culture-of-Impunity

Media cover-up: The policy of shielding Israel

April 17th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/383330-Media-cover-up-The-policy-of-shielding-Israel

Israel is in 'panic' after losing 'dear' ISIS and Al-Nusra terrorists in Syria says Assad

May 31st, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/387028-Isra...yria-says-Assad

The dark truth about the UK's special relationship with Israel

June 5th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/387484-The-dark-truth-about-the-UKs-special-relationship-with-Israel
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/08/18 11:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Quote:
Elle : Currently we are in the 2nd passover watch dates

Kland : You can't even support when the Jewish year starts.....

Elle : ??? Only a day difference from the Nehemiah Gordon Barley report and the Karaite Korner's Jewish Calendar.

https://escapeallthesethings.com/holy-day-calendar/

Kland : There are others who say it is a month difference. But that doesn't answer my question, You can't even support when the Jewish year starts.

Unless....you are saying the link says we are to look to Jerusalem. So in that case, when do you say the "spring Passover" for Argentina is?

I have already answered you this several times. For sure, my expression level is not the best and not as clear as it should be. My last attempt was in this discussion March 8th, 2018 in #Post186153.

As you should know by now, I do NOT believe we are to look to Jerusalem to determine the Feasts watch dates (or even the Sabbath). As I have shared with you at least twice in the past in other discussion that God told us via the prophet Jeremiah and shown via Ezekiel that Jerusalem [old Jerusalem that is] is no longer the place where God's name [glory] reside.
Below is what we discussed in the Are the Feast Days and Sabbaths still Binding? discussion #Post172912, and #Post172974

Ok, I understand that you do not start the year by other methods. But you said so much stuff not relevant to my question before and now. Could you precisely and concisely state when your EVENTS start your year?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/10/18 07:35 PM

My comment : Here's the International Tribunal for Natural Justice being setup to trial criminal activities amongst our top leaders inside the US government and in other countries. Currently children sacrificing and sex slavery is high in their priorities.

Like many has said including QAnon this hidden truth is going to shock the world. I see this as part of God's plan to bring the people into repentance and to bring them to yearn for a better and righteous government that can only be found in God's laws and selected leaders.

The International Tribunal for Natural Justice
June 9th, 2018

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...atural-justice/

Quote:
The ITNJ was first established and ratified on February 14, 2015. The project was launched officially a few months later on June 15, 2015. This was the 800th anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta. Here is their website explaining their mission:

https://www.itnj.org/

Here is a 15-minute video giving a very good summary by the ITNJ’s Chief Counsel, Robert David Steele. I have posted some his interviews online in the past. Steele is a former CIA officer who has had extensive experience in the field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU0YDyThImk

Here is an example of testimony being given by a victim of sexual abuse and torture. She was raised in a Mormon family and witnessed torture and murder in the basement of the Mormon temple in Salt Lake City. Her father was part of the CIA, and he had sold his children to them to be used in drug experimentation and sexual abuse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixHC8lm82Qg

Similar abuse has also been reported by Cathy O’Brien, was trained in a Catholic girls school and used for many years by government leaders. In 1988 she was rescued out of that life by Mark Phillips. (They were eventually married.) Later in 1995 they coauthored the book, TRANCE-formation of America. It can be downloaded in a pdf file free of charge.

https://archive.org/details/TranceformationOfAmerica

In it, they do not hesitate to give the names of the politicians and powerful men who were part of this pedophile-slavery system. Some of the names will shock you, as most are still alive today and many remain leaders in government. This includes Bill and Hillary Clinton, Dick Cheney, Senator Robert Byrd, and George Bush, Sr. Here is one of her video testimonies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pzp6VR7zJ8

This is what the Babylonian captivity has done to America and to the world. They require the same human sacrifice that the ancient religion of Moloch and Baal required in biblical days. These practices never really ended, but in the last century they have ascended to positions of power, allowing them to practice their satanism with almost total immunity.

I believe that this is what is now coming to an end, and that President Trump is preparing the Justice Department and other government agencies to deal with it. He calls it “draining the swamp,” but it is probably more accurate to say that he is cleaning out the FBI, CIA, NSA, and DOJ. This is like moving in the equipment to begin draining the swamp. When the Inspector General releases his report (scheduled for June 14), we may see the next big step in this painfully slow process. But our time of captivity is ending now, and so now is the time to learn the Kingdom model for the world, which is the only true solution.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/10/18 08:40 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Quote:
Elle : Currently we are in the 2nd passover watch dates

Kland : You can't even support when the Jewish year starts.....

Elle : ??? Only a day difference from the Nehemiah Gordon Barley report and the Karaite Korner's Jewish Calendar.

https://escapeallthesethings.com/holy-day-calendar/

Kland : There are others who say it is a month difference. But that doesn't answer my question, You can't even support when the Jewish year starts.

Unless....you are saying the link says we are to look to Jerusalem. So in that case, when do you say the "spring Passover" for Argentina is?

I have already answered you this several times. For sure, my expression level is not the best and not as clear as it should be. My last attempt was in this discussion March 8th, 2018 in #Post186153.

As you should know by now, I do NOT believe we are to look to Jerusalem to determine the Feasts watch dates (or even the Sabbath). As I have shared with you at least twice in the past in other discussion that God told us via the prophet Jeremiah and shown via Ezekiel that Jerusalem [old Jerusalem that is] is no longer the place where God's name [glory] reside.
Below is what we discussed in the Are the Feast Days and Sabbaths still Binding? discussion #Post172912, and #Post172974

Originally Posted By: kland
Ok, I understand that you do not start the year by other methods. But you said so much stuff not relevant to my question before and now.

Well, I perceived it was relevant to your question as you were trying to figure out to set time with OT mindset methods that God has not taught us to do.

Like :

1. having the Old Jerusalem as a reference point when God told us via Jeremiah that He removed His name and will destroy that city.

2. as thinking that many of the Law writings are no longer abiding including the feasts. I will agree that the "OT form" (that was meant to be a teaching tool and pointing to greater things to come) has changed like said in the book of Hebrew. It is the New Covenant form that God is fulfilling.

3. as taking the OT writings literally when scriptures tells us they are teaching tools that points to greater spiritual things to come...meaning they are prophetic, spiritual, and promises to us of what God is currently fulfilling and will accomplish in the futur. This is what we are watching for in the events.

Without looking at the OT Laws writings (the Pentateuch) which from my understanding are the foundation by which God's work stem from in conducting the events we see being executed year after year to bring about His promises into the world. The vows He made (to write His laws in every individuals heart made in Jer 31:33 and make every one His people in Deut 29:14-15) are His objectives and reasons why He is accomplishing these events.

So by thinking that any law or the feasts are not abiding anymore...we rob ourselves of not knowing a portion of God's plan of salvation...thus won't be able to understand God's works in the current events that takes place from year to year.

So I needed to address these 3 points plus the fact that we cannot rely on our mind of the "natural man"(==the soul see 1Cor 2:14) to figure these out because our natural mind cannot understand spiritual things. Spiritual things needs to be understood from our new created man (the spiritual man who has its own mind that is conform to Christ's mind that reside in our spirit).

I do acknowledge that my communication skills are weak and apologize for that.

Originally Posted By: kland
Could you precisely and concisely state when your EVENTS start your year?

These are God's EVENTS (not mine nor any other man's) for He triggers them on Feast dates.

God has instructed some (those that can hear His voice and follow Him) in addition in watching the Feast dates to start by watching the Feast dates on the Gregorian calendar. Meaning on January which is an equivalence of the first month of the Feast dates; we watch January 10, 14, 15, 22. The second month of the Gregorian calendar are also watch dates as it is the second Passover as given in Num 9 : Febuary 10, 14, 15, 22 are watch dates also. We should watch also the month of July (1, 10, 15, 22) which is an equivalence of the 7th month Feast watch dates.

My understanding is whatever was flagged on the Gregorian calendar dates should match (be relevant but provide additional information) what was flagged on the actual feast dates. Actually the events on the Gregorian dates are little pre-events(signs) of what will come on the actual feast dates. I'm not certain, but I think that also the Passover are pre-events(signs) of the Tabernacle Feast dates events which is the culmination prophetic time for the year.

Significant events that can be flagged doesn't happen on all those Gregorian Calendar dates nor on all the dates of the actual Feast dates that happens 3 months later.

How can we tell what events is valid on any of these watch dates and how to interpret them in relation to what law God's is fulfilling in these events?

Well many things; but I'll only mention 3.

1. It only can comes from the mind of your spiritual man that was conceived by the Holy Spirit.

2. It comes from pre-knowledge of what God has accomplish from previous years.

3. Where we are at in the plan of salvation as told to us in the pattern in the law and the prophets in scriptures.

How do we know what day the Feast dates start in a particular year?

Most Jewish Feast calendars and other religious groups are 1 or 2 days (rarely 3 days but can happened) discrepancies from each other. Then in some years we have a month discrepancies to deal with the leap year. Whatever EVENT that is flagged (for instance this year was the Chinese Yuan-Oil future contracts officially made world wide happened on a 10th day relative to the first moon) sets when the Feast dates start for the year.

I know I am repeating myself but I hope the above expression is clearer and helps understand what I currently understand how God communicates to His people via these Feast watch dates.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/11/18 05:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Could you precisely and concisely state when your EVENTS start your year?

These are God's EVENTS (not mine nor any other man's) for He triggers them on Feast dates.

God has instructed some (those that can hear His voice and follow Him) in addition in watching the Feast dates to start by watching the Feast dates on the Gregorian calendar. Meaning on January which is an equivalence of the first month of the Feast dates; we watch January 10, 14, 15, 22.
Still trying to filter through the non-relevant stuff, I gather you are saying the year starts on Gregorian January 1.


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My understanding is whatever was flagged on the Gregorian calendar dates should match (be relevant but provide additional information) what was flagged on the actual feast dates. Actually the events on the Gregorian dates are little pre-events(signs) of what will come on the actual feast dates. I'm not certain, but I think that also the Passover are pre-events(signs) of the Tabernacle Feast dates events which is the culmination prophetic time for the year.
But hear, you are talking of "actual" feast dates. So the question is yet again, when do you say they start, that is, when is the first of the year for the "actual" feast dates? (continued:)

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Significant events that can be flagged doesn't happen on all those Gregorian Calendar dates nor on all the dates of the actual Feast dates that happens 3 months later.
Are you saying the actual feast dates always start 3 months after Gregorian January 1? Otherwise, what you said before, they are not 1 day apart from one promoter to another:
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??? Only a day difference from the Nehemiah Gordon Barley report and the Karaite Korner's Jewish Calendar.


In case you missed my main question above, here it is:
When do you say is the first of the year for the "actual" feast dates?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/11/18 06:11 PM

My comment : Italy's detaching from the Euro with the mini-bots proposition and the Deutsche Bank in a verge of failure are two major current events that might trigger an economic collapse for the western countries. Many economist and financial experts says that the collapse of the old corrupt system must happen before these countries can get on with the Eastern countries plans in building the New Economic structure. Many are saying that Trump and the Patriots are on board in accelerating this collapse.

The timeline for the collapse of the Babylonian's central banks could be this summer. I've been hearing this circulating around but we've heard this before.

However, the Italian's wanting to step away from the Euro and issue their own sovereign currency is quite serious and detrimental for all of Europe's central banks that will have a domino effect on other central banks around the world. If the Italian's succeeds, then it will pave the way for the other European countries that wants to do the same.

Right now countries cannot buy or sell outside the Babylonian's Federal reserve banking system that all the central banks are tied to. For the Italians to issue their own sovereign currency by which would be use only domestically, will be the first; but a necessary step for other nations to follow. This step is within the plans of the new global economic restructure. Every country needs to print their own sovereign currency backed by gold or other assets that would be used domestically.

Jim's anonymous contact that he named "the voice", who presumably works with the Eastern countries in building the new economic system, says that there will be two major triggers that will happened very soon (this summer?). Here's a quote from there discussion :

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Then the source emphasized this. He awaits two key globally important events, which are set to occur. Nothing can stop them, and both will be powerful. He knows what they are, but is not at liberty to offer further details, very clear events in development. They are near-term triggers, which will release Gold & Silver prices. Once gold is released, silver will take flight. He stressed how the Global Currency RESET will have some very visible unexpected aspects in a complete restructuring of the financial world versus its present form. He seems to be part of the planned restructure, planning, testing, and implementation, if not the upcoming crisis management.

The Jackass tried to guess on the key trigger events with Saudi oil sales taken in RMB payments. He was evasive but admitted that is a certainty already to occur between the Chinese and Arabs. My next gambit guess was to describe the development of non-USD platforms. He repeated that two key events are in the near-term schedule in progress. Before the Jackass could mention the near-term chaos with Deutsche Bank and the entire Italian banking system, he offered more details, but still somewhat general.

This will unfold as an event schedule sequence. He gave emphasis that silver metal was in dire shortage, the deficit growing worse with each passing month. Upon further reflection, the Jackass believes a widespread shutdown of principal globalist cabal banks might occur, which would alter the entire global financial framework, and unleash the gold demand. The remaining banks could then replace a large swath of their USTreasury Bonds, EuroBonds, UKGilts, and JapGovtBonds in favor of Gold bullion for the formally held assets in reserves. The RESET would then dictate how global banking systems must migrate toward gold and away from sovereign debt in their reserves management systems. The rising Gold price in the following years would ensure the banks of healthy solvency. Or at least gold will aid the central banks in their struggle toward survival, which have made disastrous decisions in the accumulation of $9 trillion of toxic sovereign bonds just in the USFed and EuroCB.


This summer, especially the month of July with its watch dates (1, 10, 15, 22) will be interesting to watch and see what the Lord has in mind to accomplish next.

Below is Jim Willie's monthly special report that address Italy, Deutsche Bank, and the potential two triggers that would move the remaining surviving central banks to conform to a gold back standard.

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1528141655.php
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/11/18 06:14 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Could you precisely and concisely state when your EVENTS start your year?

These are God's EVENTS (not mine nor any other man's) for He triggers them on Feast dates.

God has instructed some (those that can hear His voice and follow Him) in addition in watching the Feast dates to start by watching the Feast dates on the Gregorian calendar. Meaning on January which is an equivalence of the first month of the Feast dates; we watch January 10, 14, 15, 22.
Still trying to filter through the non-relevant stuff, I gather you are saying the year starts on Gregorian January 1.


Quote:
My understanding is whatever was flagged on the Gregorian calendar dates should match (be relevant but provide additional information) what was flagged on the actual feast dates. Actually the events on the Gregorian dates are little pre-events(signs) of what will come on the actual feast dates. I'm not certain, but I think that also the Passover are pre-events(signs) of the Tabernacle Feast dates events which is the culmination prophetic time for the year.
But hear, you are talking of "actual" feast dates. So the question is yet again, when do you say they start, that is, when is the first of the year for the "actual" feast dates? (continued:)

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Significant events that can be flagged doesn't happen on all those Gregorian Calendar dates nor on all the dates of the actual Feast dates that happens 3 months later.
Are you saying the actual feast dates always start 3 months after Gregorian January 1? Otherwise, what you said before, they are not 1 day apart from one promoter to another:
Quote:
??? Only a day difference from the Nehemiah Gordon Barley report and the Karaite Korner's Jewish Calendar.


In case you missed my main question above, here it is:
When do you say is the first of the year for the "actual" feast dates?

Your answer was in the last paragraph of my post :
Originally Posted By: elle
How do we know what day the Feast dates start in a particular year?

Most Jewish Feast calendars and other religious groups are 1 or 2 days (rarely 3 days but can happened) discrepancies from each other. Then in some years we have a month discrepancies to deal with the leap year. Whatever EVENT that is flagged (for instance this year was the Chinese Yuan-Oil future contracts officially made world wide happened on a 10th day relative to the first moon) sets when the Feast dates start for the year.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/11/18 06:31 PM

My comment : Here's 3 recent articles that shows some of the western allied countries shifting away and moving towards with the Eastern countries Economic restructure. I usually don't track these but since these happened so close to each other I flagged them in my computer.

The Western allied countries moving away from Babylon's system and joining with the Eastern allied countries in effort to step away from the Federal Reserve notes is growing at a very fast pace. Mystery Babylon is collapsing before our eyes.

Russia Building The Trans-Arabian Railway Will Make The Saudis More Multipolar

June 5th, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-0...more-multipolar

Austrian president: 'No need for Europe to buy US gas at triple the price, will continue imports from Russia'

June 5th, 2018
https://www.sott.net/article/387417-Aust...rts-from-Russia

Bulgaria does a complete 180, begs Russia for new gas pipeline deal

June 4th, 2018
https://www.sott.net/article/387425-Bulg...s-pipeline-deal
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/12/18 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
In case you missed my main question above, here it is:
When do you say is the first of the year for the "actual" feast dates?

Your answer was in the last paragraph of my post :
Originally Posted By: elle
How do we know what day the Feast dates start in a particular year?

Most Jewish Feast calendars and other religious groups are 1 or 2 days (rarely 3 days but can happened) discrepancies from each other. Then in some years we have a month discrepancies to deal with the leap year. Whatever EVENT that is flagged (for instance this year was the Chinese Yuan-Oil future contracts officially made world wide happened on a 10th day relative to the first moon) sets when the Feast dates start for the year.
I'm sorry, you're going to have to spell it out for me. You say "the first moon". Yes, that is the question, when do you say is the first of the year? This year?

I don't know how to ask my question any more clear. I find it odd that you have not understood my question and why you have yet to answer it.

Here it is: When do you say is the first of this year that starts the new moons which starts the "actual" feast dates?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/12/18 06:28 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
In case you missed my main question above, here it is:
When do you say is the first of the year for the "actual" feast dates?

Your answer was in the last paragraph of my post :
Originally Posted By: elle
How do we know what day the Feast dates start in a particular year?

Most Jewish Feast calendars and other religious groups are 1 or 2 days (rarely 3 days but can happened) discrepancies from each other. Then in some years we have a month discrepancies to deal with the leap year. Whatever EVENT that is flagged (for instance this year was the Chinese Yuan-Oil future contracts officially made world wide happened on a 10th day relative to the first moon) sets when the Feast dates start for the year.

Originally Posted By: elle
[quote=kland] I'm sorry, you're going to have to spell it out for me. You say "the first moon". Yes, that is the question, when do you say is the first of the year? This year?

That's a mistake. I meant to write "New moon" not "first moon".

Originally Posted By: kland
I don't know how to ask my question any more clear. I find it odd that you have not understood my question and why you have yet to answer it.

I find it odd that you have yet to understand what I said as I said it in many forms with details and all. Perhaps it is not time yet.

If you really want to understand is you need to fend for your own spiritual food with the aid of the Holy Spirit. It is obvious that whatever I say you cannot understand me. Might be the communication gap.

Look back at the posts I've made when Stephen Jones related to the prophetic discernment concerning tho watch dates. Check what was said at the beginning of this year in the month of January. Compare these pre-signs in those watch dates events with the signs on the actual feast dates. Check what was said on the Feast watch dates (15 & 22) after the Chinese Yuan-Oil futures event (which was the first event that was flagged that set the Feast watch dates). Do the event dates(15 & 22) are still in line to the New Moon? Which OT prophecies is God fulfilling? Does it follow in progression with other prophecies that God fulfilled in previous year?

Originally Posted By: kland
Here it is: When do you say is the first of this year that starts the new moons which starts the "actual" feast dates?

Here's my answer again :

Whatever EVENT that is flagged (for instance this year was the Chinese Yuan-Oil future contracts officially made world wide happened on a 10th day relative to the first NEW moon) sets when the Feast dates start for the year.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/14/18 05:16 PM

So tell us, of whatever event you have in mind that flagged to start this year of the "actual" feast dates, what is the date of the first of the year of the "actual" feast dates and why?

Just tell me, ok?
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/14/18 05:19 PM

With you failing to answer, is it not without reason that I would say:

You can't even support when the year [of the "actual" feast dates] starts.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/17/18 04:27 PM

My comment : Below is a very good article from an ex-CIA who learned this first hand.

As I said in other discussions....to know who is the second beast of Rev 13 is to know who controls the US.

Remember that references to "Israel" or "Jews" below is a reference to the Zionists. It is only a small fraction of Jews that are Zionist. Most are not.

Understanding Jewish Power and who helped create a war-addicted America

Jun 12th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/388383-Unde...ddicted-America

Originally Posted By: some quotes from the article
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It did not take much to connect the dots and realize that Israel, far from being a friend and ally, was the principal catalyst for the many missteps that the United States has made in the Middle East. U.S. policy in the region was being deliberately shaped around Israeli concerns by American Jews ensconced in the Pentagon and White House who certainly knew exactly what they were doing. No one should blame the Israelis for acting in their own self-interest, but every loyal American should blame the Libbys, Feiths and Wolfowitzes for their willingness to place Israeli interests ahead of those of their own country.
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there is no country that manipulates the U.S. government better or more persistently than Israel.
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It does not take a genius to figure out that the United States is deeply involved in a series of seemingly endless wars pitting it against predominantly Muslim nations even though Washington has no vital interests at stake in places like Syria, Libya and Iraq. Who is driving the process and benefiting? Israel is clearly the intended beneficiary of a coordinated effort mounted by more than 600 Jewish organizations in the U.S. that have at least as part of their programs the promotion and protection of Israel. Ironically, organizations that promote the interests of a foreign government are supposed to be registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938 (FARA) but not a single pro-Israel organization has ever done so nor even been seriously challenged on the issue, a tribute to their power in dealing with the federal government.

Those who are in the drivers' seat of the Israel promotion process are what some would describe as the Israel Lobby but which I would prefer to call a subset of the Jewish Lobby, which in itself is supported by something I would designate Jewish Power, an aggregate of Jewish money, control over key aspects of the media and entertainment industries plus easy access to corrupted politicians desirous of positive press and campaign donations. This penetration and control of the public discourse has resulted in the creation of what I would refer to as the official "Israel narrative," in which Israel, which claims perpetual victimhood, is reflexively referred to as "the only democracy in the Middle East" and "Washington's closest ally and friend," assertions that are completely false but which have been aggressively and successfully promoted to shape how Americans view the Israeli-Arab conflict. Palestinians resisting the Israeli occupation are invariably described as "terrorists" both in the U.S. and Israel.

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So why do I think that we have to start talking about Jewish Power as opposed to the euphemism Israel Lobby? It is because the wars in the Middle East, which have done so much to damage the United States and were at least in part arranged to benefit Israel, have been largely driven by wealthy and powerful Jews. If America goes to war with Iran, as is increasingly likely, it will be all about Israel and it will be arranged by the political and financial services Washington-Wall Street axis, make no mistake.

To my mind, Israel is America's number one foreign policy problem in that it is able and willing to start potentially catastrophic wars with countries that it has demonized but that do not threaten the U.S. And those doing the manipulating are bipartisan Jewish oligarchs with deep pockets that support the multitude of pro-Israel organizations, think tanks and media outlets that have done so much to corrupt America's political process. Hollywood producer Haim Saban, a principal Democratic Party supporter, has said that he is a one issue guy and that issue is Israel. Principal GOP funder casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, who served in the U.S. Army in World War 2, has said that he regrets that service and would have preferred to be in the Israel Defense Forces. They as well as others, including fund manager Paul Singer and Home Depot's Bernard Marcus, are Jews laboring on behalf of the self-proclaimed Jewish State while the neoconservatives, fiercely protective of Israel, are also nearly all Jewish. Asserting that the fact that they are Jews acting for a Jewish state should be irrelevant as they are also doing what is good for America, as is commonly done by their apologists, is logically inconsistent and borders on absurdity. As for the frequently cited Bible belt Christian-Zionists who support Israel, they are, to be sure, numerous, but they do not have the access to real power in the United States that Jews have.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/25/18 05:25 AM

More Than 2,300 Suspected Online Child Sex Offenders Arrested During Operation “Broken Heart”

June 12th, 2018

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/more-2300...on-broken-heart
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/25/18 05:50 AM

My comment : Very encouraging interview of William Binney, NSA former Chief Technical Officer, who talks about the inefficiency of the current NSA setup that cost bundle of money to keep these super computers that collect massive data spying on everyone that requires large amount of staff to go thru the data when all of it is illegal.

William offer a great solution that wouldn't require spying and minimizing the data stored by going thru selective algorithm. This would cut the NSA budget & staff significantly.

ITNJ Interview: William Binney NSA former Chief Technical Officer

June 4th, 2018

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/25/18 06:08 AM

My comment : Russia and China are dumping US Treasury Notes significantly. Jim Willie is saying that Russia is able to exchange it to buy gold with it; whereas China is using it to pay for the One Road One Belt Project. Below is an article of Russia dumping half of their Treasury Notes in May. And Jim's latest interview where he talks about this and much much more.

Russia strikes back against US in global trade war: Dumps half its US Treasury bonds in one month

June 16th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/388332-Russ...pan-and-Ireland

Lehman Crisis event management

https://ochelli.com/lehman-crisis-event-management/

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June 23rd: topics covered include the dumping of USTreasury Bonds for buying gold bullion by Russia and for buying many global items by China, the collapse of German giant Deutsche Bank integrally tied to the Italian banking system bust, their tight connection to the LTCM 1998 failure which lost the Italian central bank gold (Rickards crime scene & coverup by Draghi), two trigger events to set off the global financial crisis which will release the controlled Gold market (like DBank/ Italy failure plus Gold Trade Note launch in Shanghai), the fraudulent basis for the entire Euro Monetary Union with excuse for Italy to exit (Goldman Sachs fraudulent collusion to evade Maastricht Rules), the upcoming Systemic Lehman event that hits both sovereign bonds and entire banking systems, USGovt tariffs in trade war with ulterior motives in Europe and Korea, with final items on marijuana laws, coerced CNN acquisition by AT&T, and challenges for USDollar in gold backing
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/25/18 08:06 PM

James Corbett: The Monsanto and Bayer merger: A match made in hell (VIDEO)

My comment : Good documentary video of Monsanto and Bayers historical notorious contribution in this world with the potential result of their merge.

The name Monsanto will be drop as that name has too much hatred associated with it with all the protests and the banning of their seeds in many countries. So under another more benevolent name of Bayers .... I wonder if the decades of hard work of protests and banning Monsanto will have to be re-establish.

Two mega-corp merged into ONE larger corporation leaves our worldwide decision over our Food, Agriculture, and Health into fewer hands. I don't view this as good news and to our benefit.

But looking at what God is currently doing -- it is a good thing that the infiltration of the Deep State soldiers of Mystery Babylon into many countries government are being cleaned out right now...that the legislation to give immunity to these mega-corps will eventually be reverted; therefore they will be prosecuted for their crimes.

For the time being, let us be aware of this merge and their coming moves while watching how God will bring Bayers down with all the other entities of Mystery Babylon.

Bayer + Monsanto = A Match Made in Hell

June 23rd 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/389128-Jame...e-in-hell-VIDEO

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/27/18 06:49 PM

My comment : Yesterday the UK made into law the Brexit by signing the European Union withdrawal act. This is significant and the UK is cutting the road for other EU nation to exit also.

Mystery Babylon is crumbling down.

Brexit bill becomes law, allowing UK to leave European Union

Jun 26th, 2018

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-new...tixdYzKBUI.html

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Britain’s Queen Elizabeth granted royal assent to Prime Minister Theresa May’s flagship Brexit legislation on Tuesday, ending months of debate over the legislation that will formally end the country’s European Union membership.

The House of Commons speaker John Bercow said the EU withdrawal bill, passed by both houses of parliament last week, had been signed into law by the monarch, to cheers from Conservative lawmakers.

“I have to notify the House in accordance with the Royal Assent Act 1967 that her Majesty has signified her royal assent to the following acts ... European Union Withdrawal Act 2018,” Commons Speaker John Bercow told lawmakers during a session of the house.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/28/18 06:21 AM

My comment : Brace yourself, July is going to be quite eventful.

Q said June 26th in post #1587:
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July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH.
Conspiracy no more.
Time to FEED.
Q


Maybe this "TRUTH" being exposed this coming month could be the satanic ring sex circle existing within our government who rapes and sacrifices children. My hunch is we might only have some mild exposure of this truth next month so to get the public prepared for the greater truth coming out from the coming trials of these [30,000] indictments. We will see how these will come about; but what I'm hearing is they need to clean the swamp first before they can have true justice in the court. So these trials might only start next year.

Today in the news we could have a small sample of this truth. I won't give details as it is sick.

Head Of Charity Against Sexual Violence Charged For Attempting To Arrange Rape Of Children

June 27th, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-2...rape-children-0

I do expect to see many more of this type of news. I don't plan to report these as I believe these will be made known to everyone.

I think these sex-ring scandals amongst our top leaders will be the thing to shake the people severely and contribute the general public to loose complete trust of Babylon's system.

I believe that God will use this atrocity to prepare the heart of the people for repentance and bring them to yearn for a righteous system & government. Thus it will help to bring about the changes we need for a New global Economic restructure that the Eastern Nations are currently working on and gradually for the setup of God's righteous kingdom during the Millennium.

Daniel 2:35 "and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth... 44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever."
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/28/18 06:23 PM

During the past forty-five years, I have had to meet persons claiming to have from God messages of reproof to others. This phase of religious fanaticism has sprung up again and again since 1844. Satan has worked in many ways to establish error. Some things spoken in these visions came to pass; but many things--in regard to the time of Christ's coming, the end of probation, and the events to take place--proved utterly false, as your prophesyings and Anna's have done. Yet they would try to excuse the blunders by twisting the statements about, and giving them another meaning, and go on in the same way, deceiving and being deceived. {2SM 75.2}
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/28/18 10:16 PM

My comment : Trump is calling for full transparency....

Trump calls for live, televised hearing of Strzok, 'other hating frauds' at FBI, DOJ

June 25th, 2018

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/...at-fbi-doj.html
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/28/18 10:25 PM

My comment : Great news....the general public is awakening.... a poll show that 72% of Americans knows that the media gives fake news.

The "Great Awakening" is happening like QAnon has said it would.

Poll: 72% of Americans Believe Establishment Media Deliberately Report Fake News

June 27th, 2018

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/...port-fake-news/

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Only 25 percent of Americans believe the media “rarely” or “never” deliberately report fake news.

In other words, only one-quarter of the country believe the media are not guilty of intentionally spreading lies to mislead the American people.

The partisan breakdown is even more revealing…

A full 92 percent of Republicans believe the media intentionally mislead the public. Independents are not far behind, with 79 percent. Even a majority of Democrats, 52 percent, agree, with only 46 percent disagreeing.

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/28/18 10:41 PM

My comment : God is working to set up a better Supreme court for the coming trials. Those that works & support the Deep State are not happy. It's understandable as they have much to loose.

Supreme Court Justice Kennedy Is Retiring, Giving Trump 2nd Supreme Court Pick

June 27th, 2018

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-27/justice-anthony-kennedy-will-retire-supreme-court
Quote:
"Justice Kennedy’s retirement is the biggest event in U.S. jurisprudence in at least 15 years"

- Jack Goldsmith, WaPo

...Without Kennedy, the court will be split between four liberal justices who were appointed by Democratic presidents and four conservatives who were named by Republicans. Trump’s nominee is likely to give the conservatives a solid majority and will face a Senate process in which Republicans hold the slimmest majority, but Democrats can’t delay confirmation.


Democrats Melt Down Over Supreme Court Vacancy

June 28th, 2018

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-27/democrats-melt-down-over-supreme-court-vacancy
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 06/29/18 07:12 PM

My comment : I'm glad to see that they (Trump's Team) are also addressing the mega-pharma-corps for their crimes. I've read back in Feb 2018 an article entitled " How To Kill 300,000 Americans (And Get Away With It)" and the answer was with overprescribing and pushing opioids based meds. Very good article to read to understand how our medical system is setup.

US Charges Over 600 "Despicable, Greedy People" In Multi-Billion Dollar Healthcare Fraud

June 28th, 2018

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-2...ealthcare-fraud

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With the opioid crisis still in full swing (and researchers reporting on Wednesday 70,000 opioid-related deaths that were not added to official statistics over the past 20 years) The Department of Justice announced on Thursday the conclusion of a year-long crackdown on opioid overprescribers that led to the indictment of more than 600 people - including 76 doctors - on health-care fraud charges.
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 07/07/18 10:20 AM

My comment : The great awakening is taking many forms and growing.

Besides the Q phenomena that has reach a great mass to ask questions and invites them to do their own research .... there's another movement -- a grass root movement called #walkaway -- that took off just a month ago and have already reached over 2 billions views.

On the surface it is moving liberals towards conservatives or former democrats into supporting President Trump.

However, I don't think it's about democrats versus republicans as the republican party was also corrupted with deep state infiltration before Trump. The same can be said about liberals versus conservatives.

I view this movement is really about walking away from Babylon's lies and corrupt system that has infiltrated and corrupted everything. I think this is the real core of these movements and the reason for the great awakening that God is doing; so to prepare the way for the rain of His spirit to fall on every flesh like prophecised in Joel.

Here's a video talking about the #walkaway movement :



To read more about the movement: https://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2018/07...d-two-articles/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 07/11/18 08:06 AM

My comment : The Great Awakening is not only happening in the population in America with the QAnon phenomena and the #walkaway movement; but also in Europe with many grass roots movements rebelling against the non-elected Elite Bankers in Brussels.

Harley Schlanger, a political analyst for Larouche worldwide, gives the latest news of what is going on in Europe.

THERE HAS BEEN A REBELLION AND IT'S GLOBAL! -- Harley Schlanger

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This may be the most powerful interview with Harley Schlanger that you've ever heard. Harley says there has been a rebellion, and it's global. From the #GreatAawkening in the United States with the election of Donald Trump to the turmoil in the EU as the unchecked power of the bureaucrats in Brussels is being challenged - and increasingly ignored. In Poland, Hungary, Italy, Spain, and even in Germany people are reaching their boiling point. It's this grass roots revolution of ideas that the elite fear the most, a complete rejection of their Marxist new world order agenda.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 07/11/18 08:55 AM

My comment : One point worth making resulting from the #walkaway movement is the Democratic party is losing many membership quite rapidly. Also Kanye West that came out in the open last year supporting Trump has brought many black people to shift sides.

Thus the Deep State cannot count on a chance to win this coming election. It looks like Trump will serve a second term. A lot of Kim Clement prophecy about Trump is coming to pass.

'Walk Away' videos go viral - Shows the growing number of Democrats leaving the party and liberals who are re-evaluating their political beliefs

Jun 28th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/389980-Walk...litical-beliefs
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 07/26/18 03:21 PM

My comment : Sorry...been busy and many things happened in July that I haven't blogged it here in this thread. We have seen some potential signs during the [Early Fall Feast] watch dates on the Julian Calendar. I will post the other pre-signs later; but I just wanted to post one. The one that fell on the 5th day of Tabernacle (July 19th) ... I think it was very impressive to read about.

I was already aware of the importance of watching the middle of the Tabernacle week (19th day of the 7th month) with its NT event equivalence can be find in the story of Peter meeting Jesus on water in the midst of a storm (John 6:16-21, Matt. 14:22-34, and Mark 6:45-53). Most people knows the story but a few knows its relation to the 8 days of the Feast of Tabernacles. Also few knows what are the basic potential prophetic meaning of the 8 miracles-signs Jesus performed on those days.

So this basic prophetic understanding wasn't knew for me; but to see this story-sign to surfaced with the recent event that took place on July 19th (middle of the Tabernacle week watch date).... I call this very impressive.

The Duck Boat tragedy in Branson—a prophetic sign, part 1

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ic-sign-part-1/

July 23, 2008

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Last Thursday, July 19, a storm having near hurricane winds hit Table Rock Lake in Branson, Missouri, capsizing a “Duck Boat” and killing 17 people. There were 31 on board, including 2 crewmembers and 29 passengers.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/07/20/branson-duck-boat-accident-what-happened/806195002/

While the event was certainly tragic, I did not understand it as a prophetic sign until this morning as I was waking up.

The Fifth Sign in John is the Storm

Recall that every year we watch July 15-22, because it is a type of the feast of Tabernacles on our western calendar (7/15 to 7/22). Tabernacles is also a revelation in the book of John, where Jesus’ eight miracles were “signs” (semeion) to manifest His glory (John 2:11). John records 7 signs before Jesus’ death and resurrection, and 1 final sign afterward. The point is that these signs represent the 8 days of Tabernacles (7 plus 1).

Each sign represents one of the days of Tabernacles. The fifth sign is where the storm arose on the Sea of Galilee, threatening the 12 disciples. Jesus walked on the water and calmed the storm. The story is recorded in John 6:16-21 and also in Matt. 14:22-34 and Mark 6:45-53.

The point is that July 19 is the fifth day of Tabernacles, linking the storm in Branson to the storm in Jesus’ day. The difference is that Jesus did not come to save the people on the duck boat in Branson. Yet 14 people were delivered out of that situation. The number 14 is the biblical number for deliverance or release. (See my book, The Biblical Meaning of Numbers from One to Forty.)

A Sign of Deliverance (14)

For example, the Passover lamb was killed in the 14th day of the first month for the deliverance of the people. This released them from Egypt the following day.

Another example is where the storm hit the ship that was taking the Apostle Paul to Rome. The ship was destroyed, but the people were delivered on the 14th day (Acts 27:33). Other examples are given in the book.

Insofar as the Branson tragedy is concerned, most of our attention is given to the 17 people who died. However, that is only half of the story, because 14 people were delivered—13 passengers and the captain, who were pulled from the lake. (The driver died, but the captain survived.)

In the biblical story, there were 12 disciples in the boat, and then Jesus joined them in the middle of the lake, making a total of 13 who made it to shore. In this case we would have to picture the captain as taking on the role of God Himself, and the passengers representing Jesus and His 12 disciples.

A Sign of Victory (17)

The number 17 is the biblical number of victory, yet they died, being swallowed up by the waves. The storm itself prophesies of tribulation. When Jesus sent the disciples across the lake after feeding the 5,000, it prophesied of the church being sent into tribulation until the second coming of Christ. Feeding the 5,000, as explained in John 6:26-71, was a revelation of Christ’s broken body (death) and His subsequent resurrection (gather the fragments that remain). That was the fourth sign in John, picturing the climax of Jesus’ ministry on earth before sending the church into tribulation.

The biblical number of victory, as seen in various biblical examples, is not always a happy outcome. In my book on numbers, I write this example:

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Jeremiah records 17 prayers. The 17th prayer is found in Jeremiah 32. The prayer is made while the Babylonian army was surrounding Jerusalem. In such circumstances, the prophet redeems land in Anathoth for 17 shekels of silver (Jer. 32:9). It is remarkable that Anathoth means “answered prayers.” Then in 32:17-25 Jeremiah prays his great prayer of victory. There are no more prayers in Jeremiah, as if to remind us that once we obtain the victory of answered prayer, no further prayer is needed to obtain the object of prayer.


In other words, Jeremiah’s victory of answered prayer was a matter of faith, because the Babylonian army was about to take over the land. There is no evidence that Jeremiah himself ever was able to live on the property that he had redeemed for 17 shekels of silver. The victory was to be seen on another level.

In fact, because Judah and Jerusalem had rejected the law of God and the kings had usurped the throne of God, judgment was coming upon the land. In the conflict between God and Judah, God won the victory by leading the Babylonian army! Just because Judah was defeated by Babylon does not mean there was no victory. One army’s victory is another army’s defeat. Which side are you on in this battle?

The Two Jerusalems

The 17th time that Jerusalem is mentioned in Scripture is in 2 Samuel 5:5, where we read that David conquered Jerusalem, the Jebusite city. Prophetically speaking, this refers to our own time, where the old Jerusalem is conquered by the forces of the New Jerusalem. The Jebusites had usurped the rule of Melchizedek, the founder and builder of that city.

The power of flesh had taken over the city, even though the kings of Jerusalem had retained Shem’s original title: Melchizedek, or “Adonizedek” (Joshua 10:1). These two titles are synonymous. One means King of Righteousness; the other means Lord of Righteousness. Yet the king of Jerusalem ended up fighting Joshua (Jesus). The same has happened with the old Jerusalem, first in Jesus’ day and now in our own time.

That is why it is important to understand the difference between the two Jerusalems. Victory for the New Jerusalem means defeat for the Old Jerusalem. The Hebrew name for Jerusalem is Yerushalayim, which literally means “Two Jerusalems.” Most people do not distinguish between the two, and so they do not correctly interpret the biblical references to Jerusalem.

John understood these things, however, and in Revelation 21 he quotes Scriptures about “Jerusalem” to mean “New Jerusalem.” Just because the prophets speak of Jerusalem it does not mean that the prophets were speaking of the earthly city.

Nothing Can Separate Us

For the 17 who died in Branson, the Scriptures also have a word of comfort. In Romans 8:35-39 there are 17 things that are unable to separate us from the love of Christ. Paul lists the first 7 of these in verses 35. Then he interrupts himself in Romans 8:36, 37, saying,

36 Just as it is written, “For Thy sake we are being put to death all day long; we were considered as sheep to be slaughtered.” 37 But in all these things we overwhelmingly conquer through Him who loved us.

Paul then continues with another 10 things that cannot separate us from the love of Christ. The 17 who died in Branson represent the overcomers who have been killed during the past 2,000 years in the tribulation. These overcomers died, but they conquered even in death. So also the 17 who died in Branson were not defeated; they testify of a great conquest, even if the world considers them to be “sheep to be slaughtered.”

In fact, the account in Matthew 14:28-31 tells us that Peter went out to meet Jesus, walking on the water. That, of course, is a sign of the overcomers going out to meet Christ at His second coming in the midst of tribulation (turmoil). But there is another side to this, because Peter also sank into the water before Jesus delivered him.

That suggests baptism, broadly speaking, which in turn suggests death and resurrection. The 14 who were pulled out of the water were fulfilling the role of Peter, whom Jesus pulled out of the water, while the 17 who died were fulfilling the role of Jonah, who was swallowed up by the great fish to picture death and resurrection.

In the context of the Branson tragedy, it suggests that Peter represented two groups of overcomers. Most of the overcomers die and must be raised from the dead; but some will be changed or transfigured without dying (1 Corinthians 15:51). Either way, victory is assured.

I have also taught that Peter was a New Testament sign of Jonah. Peter was originally named Simon, son of Jonah (Simon barjona in Matthew 16:17 NASB). Just as Jonah was a type of Christ in His death and resurrection experience, so also was Simon bar-Jonah a New Testament parallel of Jonah when he got out of the boat and when he was baptized in the sea.

Though Jonah ended up in the belly of the great fish, he was an overcomer who was required to obtain victory through death and resurrection. So also the 17 who died in Branson fulfilled the sign of Jonah and Simon bar-Jonah; whereas the 14 who were delivered were a sign of the living overcomers at the end of the age who will be “changed” without dying.

July is like September

Recall the old revelation from about 1980 that “July is like September.” July 19 is therefore like September 19, which happens to be the Day of Atonement this year. The Day of Atonement is the day of Jesus’ baptism in Matthew 3:13, which He did “to fulfill all righteousness” (Matthew 3:15). In other words, Jesus fulfilled the law of baptism found in Leviticus 14:5, combined with the Day of Atonement prophecy in Leviticus 16:34.

I have taught about those laws in my book, The Laws of the Second Coming.

The point is that the duck boat tragedy in Branson on July 19 points to September 19, the Day of Atonement. Therefore, the “baptism” at Branson on July 19 points to Jesus’ baptism on the Day of Atonement (September 19).

At the same time, by a different calculation, July 19 is the fifth day of Tabernacles, which correlates with the fifth sign in John, where Jesus walked on the water and where Peter got his baptism in the sea (in Matthew’s account).

It is complex, but each viewpoint is another witness pointing to the importance of this as a sign, as well as foreshadowing September 19 as a watch date.


The Duck Boat tragedy in Branson—a prophetic sign, part 2

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ic-sign-part-2/

July 24th, 2018
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The duck boat tragedy in Branson follows the prophetic sign of baptism, and this alone points to numerous biblical patterns of death and resurrection. The numbers involved (14 and 17) also help us to interpret the event, as I have shown.

As for the timing of the event (July 19), it is only understandable by knowing that the feast of Tabernacles begins on 7/15 and ends 7/22. On our calendar, 7/19 is the fifth day of the feast, which correlates to the fifth miracle-sign in the book of John. The storm in John 6:18 was duplicated in the Branson event, so one would have to study the meaning of the Scriptures in order to interpret the Branson story.

Understanding signs can be difficult or even impossible, because few people have studied the Scriptural patterns to that extent. Further, most people have never heard the 1980 revelation that “July is like September.” So they do not know that we can link July 19 with September 19, a date which happens to be the Day of Atonement in 2018.

This year it happens that another layer of timing is added to the mix, because the Day of Atonement falls on 7/10 (Hebrew calendar). But 7/10 on our calendar is July 10—the day that the Thai resurrection sign took place. Once again, we are seeing that resurrection sign linked to the overall revelation. July 10 links with September 19, which in turn links back to July 19.

As I wrote two weeks ago in my weblog about the 12 boys saved from the cave in Thailand, July 10 is a type of the Day of Atonement, and is linked to September 10, which is Rosh Hoshana, the feast of Trumpets (New Year). So in 2018 we have a rather unusual overlay of feast days, where Trumpets and the Day of Atonement are overlaid on each other.

The meaning of this is yet unclear. At the present time we are seeing the Day of Atonement being set forth in the theme of baptism, death and resurrection. Trumpets itself is the prophesied feast where the dead will be raised “at the last trumpet” (1 Corinthians 15:52). Hence, both Trumpets and the Day of Atonement have the resurrection theme in common.

But what does it mean? I think we will learn more when we go to Branson for our conference on September 7-9. That conference ends the evening of September 9, which, by Hebrew time, is the beginning of September 10, the feast of Trumpets. If it were up to us, I would vote for the resurrection of the dead. But, of course, we have learned that it is not our will but His that is important. By seeking His will, we remain observers and participants in His plan—not our own.


Table Rock Lake

Perhaps the Table Rock Lake in Branson is significant, since the duck boat sank in that lake, not far from where the Chateau on the Lake is located (our meeting place for the conference in September). Does this suggest the two stone tables (or tables of stone) on which the law was given? Is it not on account of the law that all sinners are sentenced to death?

Perhaps, then, the Chateau, situated on a hill overlooking the lake, points to resurrection.


Tornado in Pella

On the same day that the storm struck the lake in Branson, a tornado struck Pella, Iowa.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/...ouds/804326002/

Some of you may recognize the name, because there is company called Pella that makes doors and windows. It is headquartered in Pella, Iowa.

Pella is also the name of the city where the early Christians went just before Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 A.D. The war began in 66 A.D., and the Roman army was about to capture the city late in the year 66, but they mysteriously retreated. That was a “mistake” on their part, because they did not get back to Jerusalem for a few years. Meanwhile, the Christians remembered Jesus’ warning in Matthew 24:16-20, so they left the city, settling in Pella.

The story is told by Eusebius, the bishop of Caesarea in the early 4th century in his Ecclesiastical History III, 5,

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“Furthermore, the members of the Jerusalem church, by means of an oracle given by revelation to acceptable persons there, were ordered to leave the City before the war began and settle in a town in Peraea called Pella. To Pella those who believed in Christ migrated from Jerusalem.”


So what is the significance of having a tornado in Pella at the same time that the storm was hitting Table Rock Lake in Branson? This was the same storm system.

First of all, Pella has a connection with Jerusalem’s destruction. Second, it seems to be a sign to the church. If Pella was the place where the Jerusalem church fled before the destruction of the city, then Pella was their city of refuge at that time. Now it appears that the tribulation (tornado) is coming to the church (Pella). Perhaps the church should consider evacuating from its spiritual location—that is, its understanding of the situation with Jerusalem.

Much of the church has relocated to Jerusalem, spiritually speaking. Whereas they ought to have found refuge in the New Jerusalem, they have returned to the earthly Jerusalem, which is the bondwoman (Galatians 4:24) and the place of bondage. When people consider the earthly Jerusalem to be their “mother” (i.e., the “mother church”), they testify that there are of Hagar, the bondwoman and are not “children of promise” (Galatians 4:28).

The early church had the same problem. Most did not really understand the New Covenant, and this was a source of conflict between them and the Apostle Paul. They were tied to their past culture and the temple and their Old Covenant viewpoints. It was only when Jerusalem persecuted the Christians that they were scattered (Acts 8:1), so that they could fulfill the Great Commission. It was only when Jerusalem was finally destroyed that the church was able to break ties with their fleshly mother.

However, in recent decades, much of the church has again reverted back to its high expectations of the earthly Jerusalem, thinking that it is the focus (mother) of the Kingdom. One’s view of prophecy in this regard is sufficient evidence of this. So I take this tornado as a divine warning that the church should once again evacuate from Jerusalem, not only the city itself, but (more importantly) the Old Covenant mindset that comes with being a spiritual Ishmaelite.

Correlating Kevin Peters’ Word from July 21

Kevin Peters received a revelation while in Palestine, Texas on the morning of July 21, 2018. I wrote about it here:

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...day-from-kevin/

The first part of the word was this:

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“10 degrees of adjustment, 10 degrees of alteration and correction. With this adjustment you shall receive the very fullness of my Spirit. It is the Spirit of judgment to receive that which I will now release.”


In the past few days, some of you have sent your insights into the meaning of this. There are many layers of meaning of this, and no doubt it has a different significance to each person. To me, of course, it speaks of the Hezekiah Factor (2 Kings 20:10), which tells me that we must look back 10 years to the year 2008.

The most significant event in 2008 was the near collapse of the world banking system in mid-September 2008. It is quite possible that we will see a similar event occur in September of 2018, perhaps this time involving Deutsche Bank, which is even now a zombie bank near the point of collapse.

The Hezekiah Factor was part of God’s answer to King Hezekiah, who had a very bad infection (“boil”). In 2 Kings 20:7 we read,

7 Then Isaiah said, “Take a cake of figs.” And they took and laid it on the boil, and he recovered.

Hezekiah’s problem was an infection, and the solution was “a cake of figs.” What do the figs represent? What was the spiritual problem in this prophetic story?

Recall that when Jesus cursed the fig tree in Matthew 21:18, 19, he was conducting spiritual warfare against the nation of Judah. This is made clear when Jesus applied the prophecy to Jerusalem and Judah in Matthew 24:32-34.

So the way I interpret the story of King Hezekiah, I see that Hezekiah, who was a genuine believer, still needed some adjustment in his thinking—perhaps about 10 degrees of adjustment. Immediately after he was healed, we read about the problem in 2 Kings 20:12-19. Ambassadors came from Babylon, and Hezekiah showed them his treasury. The Babylonians never forgot this, and a century later it was enough to motivate the Babylonians to lay siege to Jerusalem. Isaiah, of course, prophesied this in 2 Kings 20:17, 18.

So Hezekiah’s spiritual problem contributed to the destruction of Jerusalem and of Solomon’s temple a century later. The literal figs may have resolved the king’s physical problem, but the deeper problem was also involved figs. The prophecy is deliberately left vague, but once we understand that Judah was a nation represented by the fig tree, and see Jesus’ actions in Matthew 21, it is not hard to conclude that the church needs to understand figs.

Jeremiah 24:2 tells us that there are good figs and evil figs. The difference between the two types of Jews (Judahites) is important to understand. The New Testament story of Jesus’ ministry was largely a conflict between good figs and evil figs. The evil figs refused to submit to Rome, and they were thus responsible for bringing upon themselves the wrath of Rome, resulting in the destruction of Jerusalem.

Kevin received his revelation in Palestine, Texas on the 9th of Av, the anniversary of Jerusalem’s destruction. In fact, Jerusalem was destroyed on 9 Av in the days of Jeremiah and again in 70 A.D. For this reason, that day has been a public day of mourning in Judaism for many centuries.

The timing of a revelation always has something to do with its fulfillment. Kevin’s revelation came on 9 Av in Palestine, Texas. Need I say more?


Helsinki and Jerusalem

However, someone pointed out that Helsinki, Finland is 10 degrees longitude west of Jerusalem. The longitude of Helsinki is nearly 25 degrees East. The longitude of Jerusalem is just slightly over 35 degrees East.

This, I think, is significant, in light of the Pella event and its connection to Jerusalem.

US President Trump and Russian president Putin held a peace summit in Helsinki on July 16, 2018. Somehow, this is connected to the fate of Jerusalem. I believe that the evil figs, having the same spiritual problem as described in Jeremiah 24, will again bring destruction upon the city. I suspect that these evil figs oppose any US-Russia peace initiative, even as the Democratic Party opposes it in America.

Their call to war and their insistence upon making Russia the enemy of America will eventually bring about the destruction of Jerusalem, as prophesied in Jeremiah 19:10, 11. For this reason, the church needs to have a 10-degree adjustment in its thinking and to apply the fig-principle to its inner “boil.”

In my view, Zionism itself, which is fixated on the earthly Jerusalem (“Hagar”), is what needs a 10-degree adjustment by the “spirit of judgment.” As with the early Jerusalem church, even believers in Christ need to adjust their thinking, so that they can claim Sarah as their spiritual mother and thus be inheritors of the promises of God.

For a full study on this, see The Book of Galatians: Paul Corrects the Distorted Gospel.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 07/26/18 10:24 PM

My comments : Below is a list of titles with links of all the [Early] Fall Feasts Events on the 7th Month of the Julian Calendar that gives us some pre-signs of what will come on the actual Fall Feast Dates. The Early Fall Feasts Watch dates ends on July 22nd; however there were some additional signs or revelation that were given afterwards that I've added them also.

All together, there's many dates that their were some pre-signs given. Usually it's not that busy; but it seems that this year since it is the year of the fall of Mystery Babylon we have many that came up as many prophecies comes together at this end of this captivity time.

July -- the 7th Month of the Julian Calendar :

July 1st : (Feast of Trumpet)

  • June 29th-July 1st Watch Dates
    https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/06-2018/july-watch-dates/
    Originally Posted By: June29-July1st Watch Dates
    June 29 to July 1
    On the Hebrew calendar, the new year (Rosh Hoshana) begins on the first day of the seventh month, or 7/1. It normally occurs some time in September, based on the sighting of the new moon. This year it will be the evening of September 9, just as our conference in Branson is ending.

    So in a sense, July 1st is a prophetic type of Rosh Hoshana, the feast of Trumpets, which also prophesies of the resurrection of the dead.

    I recall some years ago, as Darla and I were driving north from California to Washington state, we stopped one Friday evening at a hotel. As the sun began to set, I suddenly became dizzy and had to go to bed. Worse yet, I could not move my head without seeing the whole room spinning. I had vertigo all night and all day (Saturday).

    Finally, at 3:00 a.m. I woke up and turned my head. I did not become dizzy. I cautiously got up and went to the restroom without any problem. Later in the morning, we checked out of the hotel and continued our journey to Portland, Oregon, where I had a meeting that evening.

    The point? I experienced a type of death and resurrection so that I could receive a revelation of timing. Jesus was laid in the tomb on a Friday evening and was raised at 3 a.m. on Sunday morning on “the third day,” as the Scriptures tell us and as the early church leaders affirm. The “three days and three nights” (Matthew 12:40) was a Hebrew idiom that meant continuous time. It does not refer to a period of 72 hours, as some insist.

    Note that the Muslims just got through their holy month of Ramadan, where they fast for 30 days. But they do not fast 30 days and 30 nights. They fast only during the day. Their fast is not continuous. So “three days and three nights” conveyed continuous time, rather than just being dead during the day and walking around during the night.

    At any rate, there are 21 passages which speak of “the third day” and only one that says, “three days and three nights.” The apparent contradiction means that at least one of these expressions has to be idiomatic. Luke 13:32 defines “the third day” clearly:

    32 And He said to them, “Go and tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I reach My goal’.”

    See also the prophecy of resurrection in Hosea 6:2,

    2 He will revive us after two days; He will raise us up on the third day that we may live before Him.

    Jesus Himself said many times that He would be killed and then raised on the third day. See, for example, Matthew 17:22, 23 and Matthew 20:19.

    Anyway, since I was required to experience it for myself, it is my own revelation that Jesus was laid in the tomb on Friday toward sundown, and He was raised up at 3:00 a.m. Sunday morning. I had always wondered what time Jesus was raised, since the women arrived at the tomb “while it was still dark” (John 20:1) and discovered that Jesus had already been raised to life.

    I believe that Jesus was raised when the temple doors opened that same morning to allow the new shift of priests to enter the city. The priestly families ministering in the temple rotated every week, and the new shift arrived some time early Sunday morning. Hence, when the big iron doors opened, that is the moment, I believe, when Jesus’ tomb was opened as well.

    The feast of Trumpets also speaks of resurrection. Here is where Hosea’s prophecy is applicable, for it blends the resurrection of Christ with the resurrection of His body of overcomers as well. That is one reason why the resurrection has been postponed for 2,000 years. As we come into the third day since the first work of Christ, we are at the dawn of a new day, as Hosea says.

    But again, the resurrection of the overcomers will probably occur again while it is yet dark and before the sun rises (prophetically speaking).

    So that is what I learned in my death-and-resurrection experience, which was designed to teach me timing. I had no control over this. I believe that God taught this to me directly by putting me through that experience. I was raised up at 3:00 a.m. on Sunday, July 1st.

    Insofar as watch dates are concerned, I normally watch July 1st only, but in years where July 1st falls on a Sunday, I find it necessary to watch a longer time period from Friday, June 29 to Sunday, July 1st.

    What shall we watch for? I do not know. However, if we know the background of those dates, then when events occur, we will recognize what is happening and understand the revelation.

  • A voice from the Grave : June 30th -- https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/06-2018/a-voice-from-the-grave/
  • Resurrection Day in Thailand : July 10th -- https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/07-2018/resurrection-day-in-thailand/



July 10th: (Day of Atonement & Jubilee Trumpet) :


July 15-22 : (8days of Feast of Tabernacle)


July 23rd and beyond :
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 07/27/18 04:57 PM

My comment : Trump having the opportunity to take control of the Federal Reserve -- is -- amazing and incredible news. Everyone is talking about it; but I like Steven's & Q comments overall.

The CNBC article is dated on July 20th; so its part of the events that took place during the [Early] Fall Feast watch dates.

I see this Federal Reserve take over another manifestation that tells us that Mystery Babylon has really fallen in 2018...that is exactly 7 times from the date of Jerusalem captivity from the Babylonians. The timing and the events show us what there is to see.

Trump poised to take over Federal Reserve

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ederal-reserve/
July 25th, 2018

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/20/trump-poised-to-take-control-of-the-federal-reserve.html

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The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve is required to have seven members. It has three. Two of the current governors were put into their position by President Trump. Two more have been nominated by the president and are awaiting confirmation by the Senate. After these two are put on the Fed’s board, the president will then nominate two more to follow them. In essence, it is possible that six of the seven Board members will be put in place by Trump.


The Federal Reserve bank, like most other central banks, is actually a privately owned bank. In the 1970’s, when Congress questioned Fed Chairman Arthur Burns about the ownership of the bank, he refused to answer. But it is known that there are 12 banking families that own the Fed. Some say that these banking families are just agents of the Vatican or some other hidden owner. It’s hard to know, because of the secrecy of Mystery Babylon.

The Federal Reserve Act that was passed on December 23, 1913, while most of the Senate was on Christmas vacation (all but 5). It marked the start of the most recent phase of the beast system, which is Mystery Babylon. It established an economic empire that put America and the world under bondage by controlling money and the money supply.

That system must end soon, now that the transfer of authority has concluded. So the fact that President Trump is appointing the Board of Governors suggests that big changes could be coming shortly. Hopefully, Trump will nationalize the Federal Reserve and make it truly "federal." Right now it is no more "federal" than Federal Express.

The creation of money should revert back to Congress, not private bankers, as this was stated explicitly in the Constitution and was the intent of our founding fathers.


Q comments on the Federal Reserve

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ederal-reserve/

July 26th, 2018

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“Q” is back after a 20-day period of silence from July 4-24. Some thought that Q was gone forever. But Q was silent for 10 days a few months ago.

Whenever Q goes silent, others spring into action, claiming to be him under a new name, or that Q passed the torch to someone else. The first time it was “Eye the Spy,” claiming to be an employee (analyst) for the NSA, which he later had to admit was a lie. This time it was someone calling himself “R” that claimed Q had asked him to take over.

When Q returned, someone asked him about this. Q replied, “There is only one Q.” So one more Q wannabe bites the dust. You can be sure that even though the MSM try hard to debunk Q as a “baseless conspiracy theorist,” they are extremely frightened of him and seek to displace him with one of their own cronies.

The main result of Q’s postings is that the MSM has lost control of the narrative. Controlling the narrative is essential in any propaganda war. That is why all of the MSM newspapers get emails at 4 a.m. every day to give them their “talking points.” This is also why all the papers seem to run similar headlines at the same time, as if they were all getting their news from the same source. The fact is, THEY ARE getting it from the same source. But as far as the public is concerned, they think the news certainly must be accurate, because they see everyone reporting the same news with the same headlines.

Some months ago, Q exposed this.


The Federal Reserve is being Restructured

Yesterday, I posted an article from CNBC, one of the MSM outlets that serves the Deep State, informing us how President Trump was poised to take over the Federal Reserve. Q posted this as well, along with a second article from CNBC. This is from post #1695 dated July 25, 2018.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/20/trump-poised-to-take-control-of-the-federal-reserve.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/23/strategist-mark-grant-trump-has-a-right-to-call-out-the-fed.html

He then commented:

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Fast.
We will never again be under their control.
Q


This is one of the most important things that any president could do for the American people and for the world. The Federal Reserve has literally controlled the economies of every nation on earth for most of the past century. It is the slave master of the world, and it has been used to put sanctions on any country that refuses to allow the Rothschilds to own their Central Banks.

Russia and China finally got tired of this and began to set up alternate systems. Instead of being forced to make international payments with the SWIFT system, which the Fed controls, China has set up the CIPS system, which is now spreading throughout the world.

I first began to study the problem in the early 1970’s while I was a student at the University of Minnesota. No, the University wasn’t teaching any of this. It was part of my extracurricular studies. I learned the difference between the Babylonian monetary system and that of the Kingdom of God. This allowed me to recognize the significance of any changes in monetary policy, and I am glad to be alive to see the downfall of Mystery Babylon.


Transfer of Ownership

The Fed has always argued that it should remain “independent” of the government, supposedly to stay “above politics.” That sounds good, and certainly, it should be independent of partisan politics. However, the problem is that the owners of the Fed want to be the masters of the government as well as economic and financial policy.

The Fed owners bribed and blackmailed their way into control of the government (and the world) in 1913-1914, and when the Fed was given the authority to create money and lend it to the governments with interest, they knew that they could then enslave the world through debt. Today, the whole world is deeply in debt. To who? To the secret owners of the Central Banks, most notably the Federal Reserve.

But this is now ending. More and more economists are now talking about a “debt Jubilee.” A decade ago, hardly any economist had ever heard of a Jubilee. We were among the few who understood this biblical term. Now the word is quite commonly used in news articles. The narrative is changing, and the Babylonian rulers are frightened and desperate. In fact, they are making feverish preparations to hold on to their wealth as we transition into the next age.

On April 19, 2018, someone asked the question, “Federal Reserve ending?”

Q responded, “Structure.”

In other words, the plan is not to abolish the Fed, but to restructure it. The fact that CNBC complains that Trump is taking over the Fed by appointing most of its Board of Governors tells us that the Rothschilds are very worried. But why? If they truly own the Fed, can they not just tell Trump what to do? Would they not retain authority over the Board of Governors?

Well, that is the beauty of the plan. The Fed’s true ownership has been a secret for a long time, although they state in their own writings that the Fed is “independent” of the government and is a private bank. Their secrecy (“mystery”) is how they are able to maintain control without being in danger of a slave uprising. But their very secrecy is also their vulnerability.

President Trump could issue an Executive Order transferring ownership of the Fed to the US Treasury. The EO could even be kept a secret. It does not matter. The Rothschilds would find it difficult to take Trump to court. What would they do? If they went to court to claim true ownership of the Fed, their little secret would be exposed. Because they kept this secret, Trump could continue to keep it a secret while he nationalizes the Fed. The Rothschilds would then have no legal recourse, unless they wanted to claim that for the past century the Federal Reserve had not really been “federal” at all!

Trump has put them between a rock and a hard place. He can pull this off because he has the power of Executive Orders and because he is now handpicking the Board of Governors. Once the Fed is under the Treasury Department, the government would no longer have to borrow money from the Fed at interest. The government would then have the power to create money and spend it into circulation.


The Debt Problem and the Jubilee

In fact, the next step would be to declare a Jubilee of sorts. The government cannot just cancel the federal debt, however, because the Fed already sold most of that debt to the public. Anyone holding government bonds is a partaker of that debt. Most likely, then, the Treasury would simply cash in the bonds when they are due, but not issue more bonds to replace them. Gradually, the debt would be replaced by actual cash (digital money in the bank). More important, the federal debt would be paid down until it is fully paid off.

Meanwhile, the “structure” of the Fed would be changed, but the bank itself would be retained under new ownership. The Fed’s bookkeeping system is quite good, and the government certainly ought to monitor the money supply so that it always equals the total value of all the goods and services of the country. That way we avoid inflation or deflation (recession). The problem up to now has been the usury factor and ownership of the Fed.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 07/31/18 07:14 PM

My comment : The following are several pedophile related article that pop up the past month or so. Most of them is about how the Deep State is trying to normalize pedophilia. They have succeeded to normalize homosexuality over the past decades, and normalizing pedophilia is the next step so that the Luciferian practice of raping, terrifying, drinking blood, eating flesh of babies and children can be accepted. They are already working on normalizing cannibalism via the comedy TV show series called Santa Clarita Diet.

PEDOPHILES BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE A PART OF THE LGBT COMMUNITY
http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/09/pedophiles-lgbt-community/
July 9th, 2018
Quote:
Pedophiles are rebranding themselves as “MAPs” or “Minor Attracted Persons” in an effort to gain acceptance and be included into the LGBT community, according to several reports from LGBT news sites.

According to Urban Dictionary, the blanket term MAP includes infantophiles (infants), pedophiles (pre-pubescent children), hebephiles (pubescent children), and ephebophiles (post-pubescent children). Some MAPs also refer to themselves as NOMAPs or “Non-Offending Minor Attracted Persons”.

These pedophiles seek to be a part of the LGBT+ community, even going so far as to make a “Pride” flag for Gay Pride Month.


Sick sleight of hand: Pedophiles attempt to rebrand themselves as 'Minor Attracted Persons' to gain acceptance

July 14th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/391015-Sick...gain-acceptance

Facebook survey asks users if they condone pedophilia

https://nypost.com/2018/03/05/facebook-survey-asks-users-if-they-condone-pedophilia/

March 5th, 2018

Quote:
Facebook is under fire for publishing a stomach-churning survey that asked users whether pedophiles should be allowed to solicit “sexual pictures” from underage girls.


Normalizing pedophilia: TEDx | Pedophilia is a natural sexual orientation | Mirjam Heine | University of Würzburg

June 20th, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy4AUzsGbfE#action=share

https://www.sott.net/article/389846-Norm...ual-orientation

Sexualizing children: California university encourages child 'sex play,' tells parents to let kids watch [censored]
June 14th, 2018
https://www.sott.net/article/390497-Sexu...let-kids-watch-[censored]

Clare Bronfman arrested in NXIVM pedophile case
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...pedophile-case/
Jul 25, 2018

Quote:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/federal-agents-arrest-nxivm-founder-nancy-salzman/story?id=56782609
The link above makes a rather pathetic attempt to protect Clare Bronfman simply by focusing the headline on NXIVM’s co-founder, Nancy Salzman. They know that many people will only read the headline without reading the article itself. That is a common tactic in the MSM.

Nonetheless, the article has little choice but to name Clare Bronfman as well. She is the heiress of the Seagram fortune, and she is the one who bankrolled NXIVM, a violent pedophile ring that presented itself as a “powerful women’s movement.” More accurately, it was a powerful slave-woman’s movement.

A few months ago Allison Mack and Keith Raniere were arrested, and reports indicate that they made a deal with prosecutors, which resulted in the recent arrest of Bronfman and Salzman.

According to the article:

Federal agents on Tuesday arrested NXIVM co-founder Nancy Salzman, her daughter Lauren Salzman and longtime bookkeeper Kathy Russell.

Clare Bronfman, the longtime operations director for NXIVM, a secretive self-help group, and an heiress to the Seagram's liquor empire, was also arrested and will appear in federal court in Brooklyn Federal Court

I suspect that this is the door opener to the arrest of high-profile pedophiles. The natural order is to arrest low-level people first, get them to implicate those higher up, and then move up the ladder. This is because the higher one goes on the ladder, the wealthier they tend to be, and these people can afford high powered lawyers. So the evidence has to be solid in order to make the charges stick.


Police Uncover Massive Pedophile Ring At Disney World

Dec 5th, 2017
https://yournewswire.com/pedophile-ring-disney-world/

Disney Under Fire for Hiring Convicted Pedophiles to Work on Kids Show
https://pjmedia.com/trending/disney-unde...-on-kids-shows/
May 31st, 2018

Disney Fires 'Guardians Of The Galaxy' Director Over Old Tweets
July 20th, 2018
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/jame...4b0fd5c73c5390a

Santa Clarita Diet: the verdict on Drew Barrymore's cannibalistic comeback
Feb 7th, 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio...listic-comeback
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 07/31/18 07:25 PM

My comment : Below is about the Chief Executive Officer of CBS, Leslie Moonves accused of sexual misconduct. Since the date of this news fell on the Lunar eclipse, plus his last name being Moonves makes it a potential sign.

A lunar eclipse sign? Or coincidence?

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...or-coincidence/

Jul 27, 2018
Quote:
Here is a news report that Les Moonves [Moon??], the Chief Executive Officer of CBS, is going to be accused of sexual misconduct in The New Yorker.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/l...-expose-1130268

Quote:
The New Yorker is poised to publish an article by Ronan Farrow that includes allegations of sexual misconduct on the part of embattled CBS chairman and CEO Leslie Moonves, The Hollywood Reporter has learned…

Farrow, the reporter who won a Pulitzer Prize for breaking news of Harvey Weinstein’s alleged pattern of rape and sexual assault, is said to have investigated Moonves and the environment at CBS for months, as rumors swirled through the industry that such an article was in the works.


This seems to be a sign of Hurricane Harvey, Part 2. I believe that last year’s Hurricane Harvey was the forerunner of the Harvey Weinstein scandal that hit the news last October. Weinstein was exposed by Ronan Farrow, who then sparked the “Me Too” movement. Now the same journalist is exposing Les Moonves.

The Weinstein expose shook Hollywood and the film industry. The Moonves expose is likely to shake up the mainstream media. Moonves started out as a second-rate actor in forgettable roles, before giving up and moving into the news media business.

The Wikipedia tells us:

Quote:
Moonves was born to a Jewish family[9][10] in New York City, the son of Josephine (Schleifer) and Herman Moonves,[11][12] and grew up in Valley Stream, New York.


Moonves is a great-nephew of Paula Ben-Gurion, wife of David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Moonves

Under the heading, “Paula Ben-Gurion,” the Wikipedia says,

Quote:
Paula Munweis (later Ben-Gurion) was born in Russia and raised in the United States.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Ben-Gurion

So the name Moonves appears to be originally, Munweis, and that it was altered to Moonves in America. So once again this sign, coinciding with the lunar eclipse, might have a connection or application to the Israeli state.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 07/31/18 10:38 PM

Eclipse?

And not only a lunar eclipse, but also a solar eclipse occurring in less than a month! Elle, what's the likelihood of that happening?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/01/18 01:08 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Eclipse?

And not only a lunar eclipse, but also a solar eclipse occurring in less than a month! Elle, what's the likelihood of that happening?

I don't know....please enlightened us and give your point.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/01/18 04:17 PM

My comment : Currently there's a heavy court case against the FBI, DOJ, and Democrat party who colluded together to obtain a FISA warrant on false pretext and lies so to spy on the President Elect (Trump). This is also ties in Obama and Clinton.

PrayerMedic gives a good history and overview of the current FISA court case.



Also below is a written overview :
FISA documents reveal FBI collusion
July 30th, 2018

http://www.bostonherald.com/opinion/op_ed/2018/07/fisa_documents_reveal_fbi_collusion?amp
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/01/18 04:43 PM

My comment : Q is now one of the 25 most popular figure on the internet. http://time.com/5324130/most-influential-internet/

Then Mainstream Media (MSM) never ask the president or his press conference the obvious question "who is Q?". MSM are afraid that the answer would validates Q. MSM rather continue to paint Q as a conspiracy theory in their news like here.

Anyway, Stephen Jones post yesterday brought forth Q's hint that there was an attempt to kill the president while in the AF1 the other day. I'm sure this was not the only attempt nor the last one; but it is one that they have some proof of it.

Q hints of treason
July 31st, 2018
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/07-2018/q-hints-of-treason/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/01/18 06:09 PM

My comment : Here's a letter written by someone or group in Europe to the American patriots. The world are watching the progress of this great awakening movement and the cleaning of the US swamp. The US success to clean out the Cabal (aka Deep State, Mystery Babylon) infiltration so to regain their sovereignty and to return the power back to the people -- will also help other nation to free themselves from the Cabal's tentacles.

It is a very nice letter of encouragement.

A Letter to America
July 29th, 2018
https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/92qclx/a_letter_to_america/

Quote:
I am one of the many who are watching these historic events unfold from the “outside”. I am neither American born, nor domiciled. I have visited your fair country on several occasions during my fifty years on this planet, and have always felt an affinity with you, the average Joe American.

That is because the average Joe American is warm, welcoming, decent, and brave. You respect those that have put on your military uniform and risked all for your country, and I respect that. You honor your founders and foundational (and VERY unique) Constitution, and I can respect that. You look out for your communities and families and I respect that too. You have, in essence, a decency and strength that is truly worthy of the moniker “American Exceptionalism”. America is not just a word or idea; it is a people who share common values of freedom, independence, equality, family, loyalty. I appreciate this message is going to sound a little corny, but I see you being attacked by half the country, I see the frustration in some of you that arrests are not coming fast enough, and I saw tonight Q’s frustration that we weren’t seeing the progress that was occurring right before our eyes, nor the complexity and danger of the war that was raging around us.

We have all been chosen by God to live in this period of history, a time when in all likelihood the United States is all that stands between our civilization’s total capitulation to this Evil, and a future that we would want to pass on to those who inherit this Earth from us. However it is you, the citizens of the United States of America that are bearing the greatest burden in this fight.

Your media likes to tell you that you are despised throughout the world, that anti-Americanism is widespread and that you should tread more lightly. I would like to say to you that that is bullshit. What is happening at this moment in time, led by your President, and this phenomenon of Q is attracting the attention and support of the WORLD. We are you and you are us. We share your contempt for the corruption, for those that would sell out the interests of our countries for their own benefit, and most egregiously harm our children in ways we had not even believed were possible.

As you are attacked by both your own and the international media, and those in your community who have not yet (or may never) wake up to what has and is happening, please know that you are not alone in this fight. What you are doing is inspiring. It is glorious and just.

To President Trump and Q, and those at the sharp end of this war, whilst not American citizens, please know that we outsiders are in awe of you and those who stand beside you. We know that this has not been attempted before. We see the gravity of what is unfolding, and the courage and spirit it took to engage such an enemy. It is clear that this international cabal still has the ability to inflict pain and death, and no hesitation to do so. It is hidden, clever, evil, and well dug in. Lest we forget, this is a real war and good people are dying. Please know that there are many out here who understand your sacrifices and the risks being taken on our behalf. Thank you and God bless you all. WWG1WGA!
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/02/18 12:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Eclipse?

And not only a lunar eclipse, but also a solar eclipse occurring in less than a month! Elle, what's the likelihood of that happening?

I don't know....please enlightened us and give your point.
Checking to see how much information you know about eclipses. Since it appears you do not know, then that would indicate why you think someone making coincidences of eclipse has validity.

The reason eclipse happen is because of alignment of the moon and sun with the earth. They are either in line or not in line. When they are, a couple weeks later, they still are pretty much in line. So therefore, if you have an eclipse of one, it is a very high probability of having another a couple of weeks later. And, if I recall correctly, six months later has a high probability, too.

Comparing names or political happenings with eclipses is kind of like comparing births with the arrangements of hands on a clock. Interesting, or amusing, but pointless.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/02/18 03:31 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Eclipse?

And not only a lunar eclipse, but also a solar eclipse occurring in less than a month! Elle, what's the likelihood of that happening?

I don't know....please enlightened us and give your point.
Checking to see how much information you know about eclipses. Since it appears you do not know, then that would indicate why you think someone making coincidences of eclipse has validity.

The reason eclipse happen is because of alignment of the moon and sun with the earth. They are either in line or not in line. When they are, a couple weeks later, they still are pretty much in line. So therefore, if you have an eclipse of one, it is a very high probability of having another a couple of weeks later. And, if I recall correctly, six months later has a high probability, too.

Comparing names or political happenings with eclipses is kind of like comparing births with the arrangements of hands on a clock. Interesting, or amusing, but pointless.

I know about lunar eclipse but I didn't know how often total eclipse happens versus partials.

1-Total eclipse happens more rarely.
https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/total-lunar-eclipse.html

2-Total eclipse being blood moon is a rarer occurrence.

3-Total eclipse being the longest ever in the 21century is even more of a rarer occurrence.

4-Total eclipse happening on a Jewish holiday (Tu B’Av wikipedia ) ...even more a rarer occurrence.
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ewish-festival/

5-Total eclipse happening with an interesting event correlating with Mainstream Media (CBS) with sexual misconduct with a distinctive name "Moonves" ... add more to a rarer "coincidence".

The July 27th eclipse was all of the above making it a very rare occurrence.

I think Stephen's Jones flagging this as a potential sign from God to take note of it .... has validity. But it's ok for you to be skeptical about it. All of us plays an important role in His plan and I respect yours. I believe that "All work together for good" and the Lord needs everyone to make all things come together at the end of His plan.

Also, to believe that the Lord speaks to his people via events on Feast dates or Jewish holidays is not for everyone. Also, it's not everyone that can hear the Lord's voice(the small still voice) clearly; nor it is something we can just set our mind and do. However, the Lord will open more and more His people ears and more and more will learn to hear His voice better and better with time. I do believe you will hear better too kland as I too seek to hear better. I have no doubt of that. Blessings!
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/02/18 03:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Eclipse?

And not only a lunar eclipse, but also a solar eclipse occurring in less than a month! Elle, what's the likelihood of that happening?

I don't know....please enlightened us and give your point.
Checking to see how much information you know about eclipses. Since it appears you do not know, then that would indicate why you think someone making coincidences of eclipse has validity.

The reason eclipse happen is because of alignment of the moon and sun with the earth. They are either in line or not in line. When they are, a couple weeks later, they still are pretty much in line. So therefore, if you have an eclipse of one, it is a very high probability of having another a couple of weeks later. And, if I recall correctly, six months later has a high probability, too.

Comparing names or political happenings with eclipses is kind of like comparing births with the arrangements of hands on a clock. Interesting, or amusing, but pointless.

I know about lunar eclipse but I didn't know how often total eclipse happens versus partials.

1-Total eclipse happens more rarely.
https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/total-lunar-eclipse.html

2-Total eclipse being blood moon is a rarer occurrence.

3-Total eclipse being the longest ever in the 21century is even more of a rarer occurrence.

4-Total eclipse happening on a Jewish holiday (Tu B’Av wikipedia ) ...even more a rarer occurrence.
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ewish-festival/

5-Total eclipse happening with an interesting event correlating with Mainstream Media (CBS) with sexual misconduct with a distinctive name "Moonves" ... add more to a rarer "coincidence".

The July 27th eclipse was all of the above making it a very rare occurrence.

I think Stephen's Jones flagging this as a potential sign from God to take note of it .... has validity. But it's ok for you to be skeptical about it. All of us plays an important role and I respect yours.

Also, to believe that the Lord speaks to his people via events on Feast dates or Jewish holidays is not for everyone. Also, it's not everyone that can hear the Lord's voice(the small still voice) clearly; nor it is something we can just set our mind and do. However, the Lord will open more and more His people ears and more and more will learn to hear His voice better and better with time. I do believe you will hear better too kland as I too seek to hear better. I have no doubt of that. Blessings!

One night in prison, a certain man repented of his sins and decided to read the old Bible on his shelf. "Where shall I begin," he wondered. "I know what I will do. I will listen to the still small voice of coincidence."

He opened the Bible randomly, pointed his finger at the page and read the verse under his finger. Mat. 27:5, "Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself." The man thought deeply about it and wondered what it might mean; so he tried again. He opened the Bible randomly, pointed his finger at the page and read the verse under his finger. This time he read slowly, thoughtfully, Luke 10:37, "And he said, He who showed mercy on him. Then Jesus said to him, Go and do likewise."

That morning, an exceedingly great cry arose in the cells for he was well-known and liked by all. Even the guards shed many tears as they took his body away to be buried.

///
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/04/18 01:19 AM

That's funny James. I've heard it before, but have always kept the thought of it.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/04/18 01:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle
1-Total eclipse happens more rarely.

Elle, how is that relevant to what I was saying? I was not talking about fullness or partialness of eclipses, but of solar vs. lunar within a month.

Quote:
4-Total eclipse happening on a Jewish holiday (Tu B’Av wikipedia ) ...even more a rarer occurrence.
But you, or Jones, make up when a "feast date" is on the fly. Remember, you could not, would not, tell when the Jewish year started. I believe that's so you can keep your "options" open so you can make the dates "coincide" to whatever event you want to make important.
== Drama News

Tell when the Jewish year starts. And why. I dare you.

Quote:
5-Total eclipse happening with an interesting event correlating with Mainstream Media (CBS) with sexual misconduct with a distinctive name "Moonves" ... add more to a rarer "coincidence".

Total eclipse correlating with sexual misconduct?

HaHaHaHa

Now that's funny!
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/04/18 04:33 AM

Media condemned Roseanne's racism, but now defends James Gunn's 'jokes' about child rape

July 21st, 2018
https://www.sott.net/article/391658-Medi...bout-child-rape
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/04/18 04:35 AM

Majority Of Clinton Emails Funneled To "Foreign Entity"; When IG Told Strzok - He Completely Ignored

July 15th, 2018

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-1...k-he-completely
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/04/18 05:01 AM

My comment : All Mainstream Media has started to attack QAnon yesterday. So it's not all bad as it will make QAnon more popular.

QAnon Update - WE ARE NOW MAINSTREAM!

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/04/18 05:48 AM

My comment : Dr. Steve Pieczenik explains the storm was over when Trump won the election. He also says the second American Revolution really started after 911 when the patriots inside the military, the intelligent body, and other government bodies brought in Trump.
INCREDIBLE INTERVIEW | Dr. Steve Pieczenik
July 18th, 2018
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/04/18 09:58 PM

My comment : I had brought forth an article how MSM was defending the Babylonians immorality(child rape) while condemning a patriot's, Roseanne, apparent racism (link). Then many news articles pushing to normalize pedophilia at post#187131

Here's more about the media defending immorality by Stephen Jones.

The Media War to protect Babylonian immorality
August 4th, 2018
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ian-immorality/
Quote:
On August 1, 2018 the 4:00 a.m. “talking points” were sent out to most of the mainstream media outlets to coordinate an all-out attack on QAnon. This marked the start of the Great Media War, in that it moved from a “cold war” to a “hot war.” In other words, the media ignores or dismisses the truth for as long as it can, hoping to fully discredit it by giving the impression that it cannot be taken seriously. When that tactic fails, then there is an all-out attack, using the full force of the media blitz.

That is what happened on August 1, when virtually all of the MSM newspapers attacked Q at the same time. Their coordinated attack shows clearly that there is no true freedom of the press, but that they function as a huge journalistic monopoly, getting all of their headline news from a single hidden master above them. Q recently exposed this by informing us of the 4 a.m. memos being sent out to all the papers.

The attack was led by the Washington Post, recently purchased by Jeff Bezos, the CEO of Amazon. They are trying to create the impression that the Q phenomenon is a disease, a “virus.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/poli...m=.00216b34fb4c

Amazon is closely linked to the CIA through its legacy technology systems.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...ransformational

Top CIA technology official Sean Roche gave an enthusiastic review on Wednesday of the agency’s multimillion-dollar cloud computing deal with Amazon.com Inc.

“It’s been nothing short of transformational,” Roche, the CIA’s associate deputy director of digital innovation, said at an Amazon conference in Washington. “It has transformed our ability to build new capabilities.”

Roche said the $600 million contract, which was awarded to Amazon Web Services (AWS) in 2013, has given the CIA the opportunity to evaluate which legacy technology systems are worth keeping and whether there are other high-quality products the agency should be using instead.

Jeff Bezos has also been attacking Eric Trump, son of the president. Eric’s twitter complains:

08-04-2018-Img-1.jpg
Quote:
The level of hatred and willingness to disparage my family and our great company has never been so ugly and unrelenting as I seen recently by the @WashingtonPost. It is clearly coming from the top with one motivation in mind. @JeffBezos


Only Fox News had a different perspective, showing the blatant bias of the other networks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jigSfea3kI4

If they got the 4 a.m. memo, they chose to ignore it. In post #1808 and 1809 yesterday, Q published a list of MSM corrupt journalists who were cooperating with the CIA, along side of the list of 45,000 sealed indictments that are soon to be unsealed for prosecution. By putting these two charts together may suggest that the DOJ will become quite active soon in prosecuting many members of the mainstream media.

https://qanon.pub

Normally, there are only about 1500 sealed indictments in an entire year. But this year there have been over 5,000 PER MONTH. Only a few so far have been unsealed, such as the NXIVM indictments. Likewise, some indictments involve more than one person, as we see with NXIVM’s Allison Mack, Keith Raniere, Nancy Salzman, Lauren Salzman, Kathy Russell, and Clare Bronfman, all being indicted on sex trafficking charges by the same sealed indictment.

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/sto...ined/833835002/

It appears that US Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from the so-called Russian Collusion investigation so that he could work on more important things while the press was fixated on a dead-end investigation that would go nowhere. It appears that this investigation will continue to go toward the bridge to nowhere as long as Jeff Sessions and John Huber continue to compile his list of people to be arrested and prosecuted.

In other words, the pedophilia and human-trafficking rings are soon to be exposed and proven to be more than a “conspiracy theory.” We are already seeing some evidence of it surfacing. I suspect that this will come to a boil just before the mid-term elections, perhaps in September.

Meanwhile, President Trump complains about Jeff Sessions, primarily to make sure the media thinks that Sessions is on their side. But Q has often said, “Trust Sessions” and “Trust the plan.” It may even be that Rod Rosenstein and Robert Mueller will prove to be investigating Hillary Clinton’s collusion with Russia, even while pretending to investigate the non-existent Trump “collusion with Russia.”

The racism coming out the New York Times is also quite incredible. The CEO is Mark Thompson, who came from the BBC in 2012, where he had used his media skill to help long-time pedophile Jimmy Savile from being convicted. Savile died in 2011. The New York Times has now hired a rabid racist named Sarah Jeong, who does not even try to hide her racist rants. Yet the New York Times defends her!

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...ts-surface.html

Sarah Jeong hates white men in particular. She seems to exhibit signs of sexual abuse, which has formed her emotional opinions for a long period of time. Whatever her problem is, she should understand that the men who abused her were of Babylon, not of the Kingdom. If she had met real men who were “normal” by Kingdom standards, she would not be saying such things. Some day, perhaps, she will see the difference and come to know the love of Christ.

So the fact that the racist New York Times hates Trump and fears Q only gives Q credibility. The division is increasingly clear between good and evil. When the pedophiles go on trial, we will probably watch the mainstream media come to their defense once again.

In my view (having read far more than I would dare to write in blogs) pedophilia is near the heart of the Babylonian religious system today. Pedophilia in high places is actually a religious ritual that dates back to the days of Canaanite child sacrifice, which never died out, but which has remained largely underground until recent years. The exposure of Mystery Babylon is described in Revelation 18:2, 3,

2 … “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! And she has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality.”

The full extent of Babylon’s “immorality” has yet to be exposed, but I believe that it is soon going to be known. People will be shocked at what their favorite politicians have been doing behind the scenes in secret. This exposure comes only because the mainstream news media has lost control of the narrative. They try desperately to promote the “baseless conspiracy theory” narrative, but I believe that the DOJ’s indictments will soon show how complicit the MSM has been in hiding the “immorality” of the Babylonian rulers.

If these exposures coincide with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, the move of God will spread very fast across the globe. Ears will be opened, the blind will see, and we will be very busy indeed. As ears are opened, the big need will be for Bible teachers to ground people in the word of God, giving them understanding of the Kingdom. The more you can learn today, the better prepared you will be for that day.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/04/18 10:06 PM

Many Chinese like Powerful Grandpa Trump

Aug 04, 2018
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...-grandpa-trump/
Quote:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-pe...ty_2613192.html
Quote:
People in the United States and other Western countries may have called Donald J. Trump a lot of different names, but in China, many people are addressing him as “Chuan Da Ye.”

“Chuan” is the Chinese pronunciation for Trump. “Da” means big or great, and “Ye” means grandfather, grandpa, or more broadly, an elderly male. So “Chuan Da Ye” can be roughly translated as “Powerful Grandpa Trump.”

For people who know the Chinese language well, the words “Da Ye” together carry connotations of affirmation, respect, affection, authority, capability, and more. When people call someone “Da Ye,” it often means that they are willing to follow this person, at least morally. And they would rather side with this man than oppose him.

Although the Party-controlled official Chinese media has been depicting the West and the United States as “the hostile force in the West,” many Chinese netizens who know how to “jump over” the Great Fire Wall of China show their affection towards Trump by calling him “Chuan Da Ye.” They like his toughness, his personality, and the fact that he is super rich and successful.


Many compare Trump to Reagan. Just as Reagan brought down the Soviet Union and its communist oppression, so also are they hoping Trump will bring down the Chinese communist government.

That is an interesting idea. Time will tell.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/07/18 04:59 PM

My comment : France has passed a law On August 3, 2018 to end any age requirements for marriage in order to accommodate the Muslims immigrants.

https://yournewswire.com/french-law-children-consent-sex/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Quote:
"President Macron’s government has voted against having an age of consent in France, becoming the latest nation to give in to pressure from an international network of liberal activists determined to normalize pedophilia and decriminalize sex with children across the world.

Federal law in France now has no legal age of consent, meaning adults who have sex with children of any age will not be prosecuted for rape if the child victim is unable to prove “violence, threat, duress, or surprise.

...The abandonment of a legal age of consent has shocked French society....”"


Society is not yet ready for allowing the rape of children; however the Babylonians Elites are running out of time and making the push. I think that their push to normalizing pedophilia plus the truth of their child sacrifice practice are going to shake people to the core and wake them up and get them ready for the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit. "All things work together for good".

Also, what's coming in late August is the Burning man Festival in Nevada. They expect to have 70,000 attendee again. This festival hidden aim is getting people to accept human sacrifice. Last year a man ran (hypnotized or mind manipulated in some way?) into the fire. So there was a real sacrifice after all.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4848026/Man-ran-flames-Burning-Man-festival-died.html

These topics and more are discuss in Stephen's blog below.

Uprooting the beast empires and building the Kingdom
Aug 6th, 2018
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ng-the-kingdom/
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/08/18 12:34 AM

Of course, equating eclipses as "signs", is not new. From a whacked out feast-keeping sacred-namer:
Quote:
This solar Eclipse, going over the United States from one end to the other, has great significance. It is a signal, a sign. It is exactly 40 days until the Day of Atonement which is a Fast Day, day of afflicting your soul, pleading for forgiveness of sins on your record. (in seven years another Solar Eclipse happens coming from the other side marking a big X across the United States). This fast day is a requirement of keeping the atonement, then we keep the feast of Tabernacles in which a solemn assembly is called after they congregation is Sanctified.Lev. 23: 26-44. The Prophet Joel is calling for a Great time of gathering and calling a Solemn Assembly. We know from prophecy that the 144,000 gather for a three and a half year period. Then the next 3 ½ year period these chosen ministers of the Covenant go out to preach the everlasting gospel to the multitudes these multitudes must decide who they believe, will they believe Satan and keep his holidays or believe Yah and keep his Feast days. These great new ministers, a royal priesthood, will teach the law and its remedy for overcoming sine. The law goes forth out of Zion which is The law of Moses because guest what Folks? The church of Rome’s lies that the law was nailed to the cross is forever demolished. So these keepers of the covenant gather to receive their calling.

The likelihood of a Jewish feast day being 28+12 days after an eclipse is rather high (with a little bit of fudging the edges...)
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/08/18 08:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : France has passed a law On August 3, 2018 to end any age requirements for marriage in order to accommodate the Muslims immigrants.

https://yournewswire.com/french-law-children-consent-sex/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Quote:
"President Macron’s government has voted against having an age of consent in France, becoming the latest nation to give in to pressure from an international network of liberal activists determined to normalize pedophilia and decriminalize sex with children across the world.

Federal law in France now has no legal age of consent, meaning adults who have sex with children of any age will not be prosecuted for rape if the child victim is unable to prove “violence, threat, duress, or surprise.

...The abandonment of a legal age of consent has shocked French society....”"


Society is not yet ready for allowing the rape of children; however the Babylonians Elites are running out of time and making the push. I think that their push to normalizing pedophilia plus the truth of their child sacrifice practice are going to shake people to the core and wake them up and get them ready for the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit. "All things work together for good".

Also, what's coming in late August is the Burning man Festival in Nevada. They expect to have 70,000 attendee again. This festival hidden aim is getting people to accept human sacrifice. Last year a man ran (hypnotized or mind manipulated in some way?) into the fire. So there was a real sacrifice after all.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4848026/Man-ran-flames-Burning-Man-festival-died.html

These topics and more are discuss in Stephen's blog below.

Uprooting the beast empires and building the Kingdom
Aug 6th, 2018
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ng-the-kingdom/

Elle,

I wonder how long before all your posts are taken down for their strident proclamation of half-trues and outright alarmist deceit.

About France's legal age of consent:
  • FRENCH PENAL CODE 227-25: "The commission without violence, constraint, threat or surprise of a sexual offence by an adult on the person of a minor under fifteen years of age is punished by five years' imprisonment and a fine of €75,000."

    In other words, a sexual encounter with a child under 15 years of age in France gets you locked away for five years and a heavy fine. But what if that encounter were with violence, constraint, threat or surprise; i.e. rape?
     
  • FRENCH PENAL CODE 222-23: "Any act of sexual penetration, whatever its nature, committed against another person by violence, constraint, threat or surprise, is rape. Rape is punished by fifteen years' criminal imprisonment."

    See? Sex with "a minor" is a punishable crime and rape is one against humanity, regardless of age, in France. Read the entire section 222-23 to 222-33-1 for the gradations of crime and related punishment even to life imprisonment.

The new law strengthens what was already in the books.

///
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/09/18 08:07 AM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : France has passed a law On August 3, 2018 to end any age requirements for marriage in order to accommodate the Muslims immigrants.

https://yournewswire.com/french-law-children-consent-sex/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Quote:
"President Macron’s government has voted against having an age of consent in France, becoming the latest nation to give in to pressure from an international network of liberal activists determined to normalize pedophilia and decriminalize sex with children across the world.

Federal law in France now has no legal age of consent, meaning adults who have sex with children of any age will not be prosecuted for rape if the child victim is unable to prove “violence, threat, duress, or surprise.

...The abandonment of a legal age of consent has shocked French society....”"


Society is not yet ready for allowing the rape of children; however the Babylonians Elites are running out of time and making the push. I think that their push to normalizing pedophilia plus the truth of their child sacrifice practice are going to shake people to the core and wake them up and get them ready for the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit. "All things work together for good".

Also, what's coming in late August is the Burning man Festival in Nevada. They expect to have 70,000 attendee again. This festival hidden aim is getting people to accept human sacrifice. Last year a man ran (hypnotized or mind manipulated in some way?) into the fire. So there was a real sacrifice after all.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4848026/Man-ran-flames-Burning-Man-festival-died.html

These topics and more are discuss in Stephen's blog below.

Uprooting the beast empires and building the Kingdom
Aug 6th, 2018
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ng-the-kingdom/

Elle,

I wonder how long before all your posts are taken down for their strident proclamation of half-trues and outright alarmist deceit.

About France's legal age of consent:
  • FRENCH PENAL CODE 227-25: "The commission without violence, constraint, threat or surprise of a sexual offence by an adult on the person of a minor under fifteen years of age is punished by five years' imprisonment and a fine of €75,000."

    In other words, a sexual encounter with a child under 15 years of age in France gets you locked away for five years and a heavy fine. But what if that encounter were with violence, constraint, threat or surprise; i.e. rape?
     
  • FRENCH PENAL CODE 222-23: "Any act of sexual penetration, whatever its nature, committed against another person by violence, constraint, threat or surprise, is rape. Rape is punished by fifteen years' criminal imprisonment."

    See? Sex with "a minor" is a punishable crime and rape is one against humanity, regardless of age, in France. Read the entire section 222-23 to 222-33-1 for the gradations of crime and related punishment even to life imprisonment.

The new law strengthens what was already in the books.

///



??? Macron just passed a new law.

Then rape is hard to prove...

and have you heard that Mystery Babylon's court are corrupt? If you are from the Deep State or affiliated business wise, your case wouldn't even get investigated even thought you have mountain hi of crime cases like Hillary and others.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/09/18 08:38 AM

My comment : The past 2 months the censoring volume has increased with Youtube, twitter, facebook, etc... Reporters, Alex Jones, ... what about censoring Christians? In California a Christian crusade adverstisement was censored. They don't for muslims; while the government even fund their mosque building. How about censoring Christian Syrian (or refugee) from entering European countries (link, link, and link)

What is freedom of speech?

Aug 8th, 2018

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/08-2018/what-is-freedom-of-speech/

Quote:
Our constitution guarantees freedom of speech and a free press. But how we define such freedom is another question. One thing is clear, however. Speech is not free unless one has the right to express an unpopular opinion. When anyone tries to shut down someone speaking an unpopular opinion, free speech is in jeopardy.

Last Saturday, Alex Jones led a pro-Trump rally in Portland, Oregon in a peaceful manner to advocate his particular point of view. Antifa (fascists in disguise) tried to turn it into a riot, throwing bottles and screaming obscenities at everyone, including the police.

Two reporters, including Candace Owen, were physically and verbally assaulted as they tried to eat breakfast at a local diner. Candace, a black reporter, was called a white racist and a black traitor!

http://allnewspipeline.com/Media_Blackout_On_Attack_On_Candace_Owens.php

It seems that these people won’t allow any black or Hispanic person to support President Trump. Obviously, they are frightened at the enormous numbers of blacks and Hispanics that are turning away from the Socialist Democratic Party. Last January, Kanye West publicly expressed his support for Trump, and the black community’s 11 percent support of Trump suddenly doubled to 22 percent. It is now 29% and rising, polls say.

Meanwhile, the Walkaway Movement continues to grow, as more and more ex-Democrats post their videos on U-Tube giving their reasons for walking away.

The Antifa screamers, carrying Nazi flags slightly altered to suit their own purpose, can’t seem to comprehend that the more they advocate violence and refuse to debate the issues calmly, the more they turn off reasonable people. In the guise of opposing "hate speech," they give themselves the right to scream in hatred. Having lost the philosophical debate, they go to the streets to throw tantrums. They need to grow up and act like adults. However, fear is driving them, and fear makes people do crazy things.


Social Media Censorship

In past decades, the Socialist Babylonians have demanded their rights to express their views without being censored by the government or in the press. But now that they are dominant, they want to censor those who oppose their views. They are making the argument that they have the right to censor “fake news.” The question is this: Who determines what fake news is?

In the guise of fighting “fake news,” the Social Media (Google, Facebook, Twitter, U-Tube) are now censoring news and beliefs that they do not like. For the past year they have been “shadow banning” those who do not subscribe to their own views. They have tried to deny this practice, but this week they have finally come out into the open by banning Alex Jones.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/07/12/cnn-calls-on-facebook-to-censor-infowars-for-fake-news/

Since he has been very influential in the political realm, this is a highly visible move that proves that they have indeed been shadow banning in the past. In other words, they lied when they tried to deny their shadow banning.

Facebook denied shadow banning until July 16, when it was finally forced to admit it.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/facebook-admits-it-shadow-bans-posts-pages-it-deems-false

In spite of numerous complaints, Twitter denied shadow banning as late as July 27.

https://news.sky.com/story/twitter-denies-shadow-banning-us-politicians-amid-claims-of-bias-11450906

But now the Social Media censorship is out in the open and is undeniable. They have now shifted their position from “No, we don’t do it” to “We have a moral responsibility to do it.” Of course, they get to determine what is fake news and what is not, even though they are proven liars.

Freedom of speech must include the right to express unpopular views. Freedom of speech is not the right to speak things that we all agree is the correct view. Neither is truth that which official government agencies define as truth. Government officials long ago gave themselves the right to lie to the public, even while making it a crime for an ordinary person to lie to a government official such as the FBI.

I recall the 1960’s when Democrats were anti-establishment and were fighting the official government narrative in regard to the Vietnam war. Now the Democratic Party, with its propaganda arms in the Social Media, are defending the Deep State and its definition of “truth.” Times have changed!


Censoring Christianity

It is being reported that in the great Socialist State of California, Christians are now being banned from advertising on billboards.

https://www.wnd.com/2018/08/billboards-yanked-because-bible-is-shown/

Quote:
After multiple complaints, including a “serious threat,” an advertising company removed a series of billboards depicting evangelist Greg Laurie holding a Bible.

The ads posted at a popular mall in Southern California promoted Laurie’s upcoming Harvest Crusade at Angel Stadium in Anaheim, Aug. 17-19, reported CBN News….

After complaints, the Irvine Company required Harvest to remove the Bible from the artwork, and the evangelical ministry complied. But the change apparently didn’t stop the complaints, and the Irvine Company completely removed all the advertisements and billboards for the crusade, reported CBN.


In the guise of religious freedom, these people are now banning Christianity while at the same promoting other religions. The double standard and hypocrisy are evident, which also shows their real agenda. They are not promoting true freedom of religion. They are promoting freedom FROM Christianity.

This intolerance for anything that is Christian shows the hand of witchcraft and satanism that is behind these efforts. They are working to ban Christ Himself, so that His Kingdom can be averted. They will fail, of course, so I am not overly concerned about this. Nonetheless, we must recognize what is going on and understand the situation.

Most of all, we must understand the Scriptures and believe the law and the prophets who have foretold these things. It is also very helpful to know the laws of time and judgment on which Daniel’s prophecies are based. When we see that the rule of the beast empires is finished, we can have hope for the future.

There will be tribulation ahead, but its purpose will be to judge Mystery Babylon—not to judge true believers. We ought to expect conflict when God overthrows Babylon, but it is a conflict that the Babylonian army will lose. The wall of Babylon will fall, because it cannot withstand the will of God.

Stay on the winning side. Don't return evil for evil. Don't be afraid. Expect the Kingdom of God to win, because the battle has already been won in the heavens.


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/09/18 08:58 AM

My comment : Dave at X22Report does a pretty good job in tying many pieces together while keeping us informed of the latest news.

Below is a good consise well packed report.

It's All About To Intensify, Brace Yourself, Divided No More

Aug 7th, 2018

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/13/18 07:10 PM

My comment : I'm glad to read that Monsanto-Bayers are having difficulties with law-suits. I live in a farming communities where my neighbor sprays his fields regularly which is very close to my house. So I'll be glad when Monsanto (Mon Satan) will close operation.

Monsanto hit with $290 million cancer liability ruling in Roundup (glyphosate) herbicide trial

https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-08-11-m...ide-trial.html#
Aug 11, 2018
Quote:
“...This jury found Monsanto acted with malice and oppression because they knew what they were doing was wrong and doing it with reckless disregard for human life,” said Robert F. Kennedy Jr., founder of the World Mercury Project. “This should send a strong message to the boardroom of Monsanto.”
...
“Monsanto was ordered to pay $250 in punitive damages (for engaging in intense evil and deception), plus another nearly $40 million actual damages.
...
"More than 4,000 lawsuits have already been filed against Monsanto over similar claims… If decided similarly, these glyphosate lawsuits could subject Monsanto / Bayer to over $1 trillion in financial liability — enough to completely bankrupt the corporation and end its mass poisoning of humanity.“


My comment : Their stocks is plunging.

Bayer Shares Crash Most On Record After Monsanto Cancer Trial Loss
Aug 13th, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-1...ncer-trial-loss

My comment : Britain is a big user of roundup in their big ground maintenance companies by which some are seriously considering to stop using it.

Britain's Biggest Home Improvement Chain May Dump Monsanto's "Roundup" After Cancer Lawsuit

August 12th, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-1...up-after-cancer
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/14/18 02:27 PM

My comment : Good comments by Steven below about QAnon latest posts.

The Deep State’s war against Q

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/08-2018/the-deep-states-war-against-q/
August 13th, 2018

Quote:
On August 9, 2018 Q hinted in a post that things about to happen.

Originally Posted By: QAnon on Aug 9
Comfy?
Previews are over.
Showtime!
Q


It appears that the Deep State took this seriously. On Friday evening, August 10, 2018 an employee at SeaTac airport near Seattle, Washington stole a Q400 plane and flew it south, crashing it close to an hour later into Ketron Island located in Puget Sound.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/11/us/seattle-plane-crash-stolen.html

I find this type of plane interesting.

08-13-2018-Deep-State-War-Against-Q-Img-1.jpg

First, Q posted the article, asking, “Do you believe in coincidences?” He apparently sees significance in the fact that it was a “Q” 400. It implies that this was some sort of symbolic gesture to send a threat to “Q” himself.

The news showed a military jet following the stolen plane, and so it is unclear if the jet shot down the Q400, or if it simply ran out of fuel, or if the inexperienced pilot simply crashed.

The type of plane is also interesting from my perspective.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/11/us/q400-seattle-airport-unauthorized-plane/index.html

Originally Posted By: CNN Aug 11
(CNN)
The Horizon Air plane stolen from the Seattle-Tacoma International Airport is a Q400 Bombardier turboprop.

It holds a crew of two pilots and two flight attendants, and has 76 seats in the coach. The craft is designed for shorter distance flights.

The plane's typical cruise speed is 414 mph (667 kilometers per hour) and its maximum cruising altitude is 25,000 feet (7,620 meters). Its wingspan is 93 feet, 3 inches (28.4 meters).


What are the odds that this plane seats 76 and that its typical cruise speed is 414 mph?? Those numbers are highly significant from a prophetic standpoint, since 414 is a judgment number known as Cursed Time, and 76 is the number of cleansing from Cursed Time. When you add 76 to 414, you come to 490, or Blessed Time.

See my book, Secrets of Time.


Heavy Attack

Earlier on the same day on August 10, 2018 Q posted:

Originally Posted By: QAnon on Aug 10
We are under HEAVY attack.
AB[C] took control.
Tripcode compromised.


This was followed a few minutes later with this:

Originally Posted By: QAnon on Aug 10
We are under [extreme] heavy attack by [3] intel agencies [Foreign & Domestic].
We are in comm/coordination w/ necessary division(s).
STAY STRONG.
STAY TOGETHER’

The next day Q posted this:

BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
[NEXT WEEK]
Q


That sounds like a counter-threat to me, especially since it was attached to the previous news regarding the Q400. So the Social Media war that erupted on August 1 is now taking to the skies and is being seen also in a cyberwar, as three intelligence agencies, including at least one here in America, is trying to hack Q’s anonymous and “secure” account on 8chan.

Q has had to change his tripcode on 8chan, taking steps to prevent being hacked. He has done this before.


Is Pedophilia about to be Revealed?

Q has posted articles in the past that expose various pedophiles. That is not new. But in the context of the recent uptick in the war behind the scenes, it seems likely that Attorney General Jeff Sessions is soon going to be ready to unseal some of the thousands of indictments and begin prosecuting the pedophilia rings in government and the news media.

Most recently, Q posted some of the messages on Twitter coming from Bill Maher, the anti-Trump, anti-Christian, anti-moral comedian who regularly frequents the late night comedy routines. His caption reads: “Sometimes the TRUTH is right in front of you.”

08-13-2018-Deep-State-War-Against-Q-Img-2.jpg

Note the movie production company called “Kid Love Productions,” which is closely associated with Bill Maher. It is so blatant that it actually is hidden right out in the open. Kid Love Productions is named for Pedophilia, showing its real purpose. It is obvious that they never thought Hillary would lose the election. They never thought they would lose control of the Justice Department, which has been protecting them all this time from prosecution.

On August 11, Q also posted images of many tweets from James Gunn, the actor. I won’t post them on this site, because his words are too immoral and vulgar. If you want to read them for yourself, go to post #1854 dated August 11, 2018 at www.qanon.app .

(My previous source of Q postings, www.qanon.pub , has had some problems, probably due to hackers. So I have switched to this one, which is virtually identical.)

No wonder NBC has posted a tweet telling people “how to delete old tweets before they come back to haunt you.”

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1028408743309008899

NBC isn’t concerned about the activities of the pedophiles. They are only trying to protect them from their own stupidity for exposing themselves on Twitter.

Meanwhile, Antifa, the military arm of the Democratic Party, continues to promote the repeal of the first amendment to the US Constitution which guarantees freedom of speech and freedom of religion. They have coordinated their attacks on anyone who does not follow their view of “truth,” as if the first amendment only applies to them. So immediately after Alex Jones organized a march in Portland for free speech, Antifa opposed them with much violence, even injuring a policeman. (For the record, I don’t particularly like Alex Jones. I certainly don’t like the anger he projects. However, the first amendment certainly applies to him as much as anyone.)

Here is the logo/banner of Antifa. See how similar it is to the logo of the Communist Party in Germany in 1933. All they did was to change the direction of the two flags, give it two colors instead of one, and translate it into English.

08-13-2018-Deep-State-War-Against-Q-Img-3.jpg

Today Q posted the above logos and asked these questions:

Originally Posted By: QAnon on Aug 13
Who controls the FAKE NEWS?
Why is ANTIFA allowed to incite violence, wear masks, make threats, use/carry weapons, and physically harm others who oppose their ideology?
Why does ANTIFA attempt to “justify” such violence by labeling the “challenger” as ALT-RIGHT or NAZI?
Why doesn’t the LEFT condone such acts of violence and call for an immediate end?
Define “Projection”.


In other words, Q is suggesting that ANTIFA is projecting their own character upon those who oppose them. Antifa is violent, so they claim that their enemies are violent. Antifa is either Nazi or Communist—it doesn’t matter which, since both lead to total control and suppression of right—so they accuse their enemies of being Fascist. (Antifa supposedly means “Anti-Fascist.”)

I might add that the so-called “alt-right” has no banners that carry on the tradition of Fascism. It is only Antifa that is carrying the Communist banner from 1933. They are trying to turn this into a classic confrontation between the Nazis and the Communists. That is why Q questions the meaning of “Projection.”

Lastly, Q posts a quotation from Napoleon to show that the Deep State is in the process of destroying itself and exposing itself. He says on August 11,

Originally Posted By: QAnon on Aug 11
“Never interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself.”


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/14/18 03:57 PM

My comment : I do not agree that Canada takes in something like 250 White Helmets with their families. These men are terrorist. I have posted about the false flag chemical attack in Syria executed by the White Helmets in post #186434 & in Post #186464 a journalist made a video of the White Helmets headquarters that was recently abandon. These plus many other news clips shows that the White Helmets are part of ISIS, Al-Queada or under other terrorist name as they always change their name to create confusion. These people should be brought to court in their countries and not be allowed to escape justice by the help of other countries. Canada to take some in refuge is setting the stage to allow them to continue their crimes in Canada.

Eva Bartlett: Decision to bring White Helmets to Canada 'dangerous and criminal'

Aug 11th, 2018

https://www.sott.net/article/393256-Eva-...us-and-criminal
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/16/18 09:10 AM

My comment : It's been years many countries has been reducing their US treasury holdings. However, last month, Russia liquidated its entire US treasury holding. Now Turkey is doing the same. I'm sure other countries will follow. One of the reasons for doing so Russia listed below is to prepare of the Economic Reset.

Russia liquidates Its US Treasury Holdings

July 17th, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-17/russia-liquidates-its-us-treasury-holdings

Russia Explains Why it liquidated its US Treasurys
July 30th, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-30/russia-explains-why-it-liquidated-its-us-treasurys
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So to sum it all up, Russia liquidated its US Treasury holdings:

-The rise of the mulipolar world - to send a geopolitical message to the world over US sanctions bullying;

-Dedollarisation - to enable the redistribution of reserves in favor of gold; and

-Preparation for a global reset - due to "the feeling of impending trouble in the world economy."



Turkey Joins Russia In Liquidating US Treasuries

Aug 15th, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-15/turkey-joins-russia-liquidating-us-treasurys
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/16/18 09:21 AM

My comment : Good short article by SOTT about how a mosque lost it's charitable status in Canada.

'Misogyny, homophobia & racism' cost Canadian mosque its charitable status

Aug 14th, 2018
https://www.sott.net/article/393473-Miso...aritable-status
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A Canadian mosque has been stripped of its charitable status after a revenue audit found a litany of issues, including inviting speakers who previously spoke out against LGBT and female equality, as well as advocating martyrdom.
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"Many of the views expressed by the organization's speakers are misogynistic, homophobic, racist and/or promote violence," the CRA Charities Branch wrote in a letter sent to the mosque president and obtained by the Global Times.
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One speaker, Bilal Philips, was described as "anti-Semitic, intolerant and contrary to integration," by the CRA, and has been denied entry into several countries, including Australia, the UK, Kenya, Bangladesh, the US and Germany.

Another, Usamah At-thahabi, who spoke at three engagements at the mosque between December 2012 and April 2014 has in the past been recorded advocating hateful attitudes.

An undercover investigation into British mosques by the UK's Channel 4 in 2007, recorded At-thahabi advocating that gays should be thrown "off a mountain," and that women, "even if she has a PhD" were intellectually inferior to men.

He has also spoken out against non-believers, or kuffar: "Not a single person here from the Muslims loves the kuffar, whether those kuffars are from the UK or from the US. We love the people of lslam and we hate the people of kuffar."
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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/21/18 10:15 PM

My comment : This is a pretty good post done today by an Anon-Patriots on the "great awakening" board. I have a hard time keeping track who are all these people (Mueller, Rosenstein, Comey, and etc...) being investigated on the current courts about the FISA warrants. So it helps to have a background report to understand what these people activities and involvements with the Clintons and crimes committed since 2001.

Connecting some Dots

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/98yduw/connnecting_some_dots/

Aug 21st, 2018
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Here's what it looks like when all the pieces are sewn together

It smells like conspiracy and treason. Everyone needs to read this. Slowly, and patiently, because it’s very important......

From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation.

A Grand Jury had been impanelled.

Governments from around the world had donated to the “Charity”.

Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those “Donations” to the Clinton Foundation were declared. Now you would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.

Look who took over this investigation in 2005: None other than James Comey; Coincidence? Guess who was transferred into the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS? None other than, Lois “Be on The Look Out” (BOLO) Lerner. Isn’t that interesting?

But this is all just a series of strange coincidences, right?

Guess who ran the Tax Division inside the Department of Injustice from 2001 to 2005?

No other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States,

Rod Rosenstein.

Guess who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame?

Another coincidence (just an anomaly in statistics and chances), but it was Robert Mueller.

What do all four casting characters have in common?

They all were briefed and/or were front-line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.

Another coincidence, right?

Fast forward to 2009....

James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go and cash-in at Lockheed Martin.

Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, official government business, on her own personal email server.

The Uranium One “issue” comes to the attention of the Hillary.

Like all good public servants do, supposedly looking out for America’s best interest, she decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no other than, the Russians.

Now you would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, America got absolutely nothing out of it.

However, prior to the sales approval, no other than Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech; then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.

Ok, no big deal right? Well, not so fast, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme.

Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during this time frame? Yep, He even delivered a Uranium Sample to Moscow in 2009.

Who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland?

None other than, Rod Rosenstein. And what happened to the informant?

The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it.

How does 20% of the most strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise?

Very soon after; the sale was approved!~145 million dollars in “donations” made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.

Guess who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? None other than, - Lois Lerner.

Ok, that’s all just another series of coincidences, nothing to see here, right?

Let’s fast forward to 2015.

Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 “investigations” the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that the Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server.He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her “Public Service” as Secretary of State which was required by law. He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email.

Sparing you the State Departments cover up, the nostrums they floated, the delay tactics that were employed and the outright lies that were spewed forth from the necks of the Kerry State Department, we shall leave it with this…… they did everything humanly possible to cover for Hillary. .

Now this is amazing, guess who became FBI Director in 2013? None other than James Comey; who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer (Lockheed Martin) with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer? Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State, huh?

Now he is the FBI Director in charge of the “Clinton Email Investigation” after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner “Matter” at the Internal Revenue Service and he exonerates her. Nope.... couldn’t find any crimes there.

In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy.They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury!

Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, like the true “Gangsta” Comey is, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates the Hillary from any wrongdoing.

Do you see the pattern?

It goes on and on, Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General,Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.

FISA Abuse, political espionage..... pick a crime, any crime, chances are...... this group and a few others did it:

All the same players.

All compromised and conflicted.

All working fervently to NOT go to jail themselves

All connected in one way or another to the Clinton's.

They are like battery acid; they corrode and corrupt everything they touch.How many lives have these two destroyed?

As of this writing, the Clinton Foundation, in its 20+ years of operation of being the largest International Charity Fraud in the history of mankind, has never been audited by the Internal Revenue Service.

Let us not forget that Comey's brother works for DLA Piper, the law firm that does the Clinton Foundation's taxes.

The person that is the common denominator to all the crimes above and still doing her evil escape legal maneuvers at the top of the 3 Letter USA Agencies?

Yep, that would be Hillary R. Clinton.

Now who is LISA BARSOOMIAN? Let’s learn a little about Mrs. Lisa H. Barsoomian’s background.

Lisa H. Barsoomian, an Attorney that graduated from Georgetown Law, is a protégé of James Comey and Robert Mueller.

Barsoomian, with her boss R. Craig Lawrence, represented Bill Clinton in 1998.

Lawrence also represented:

Robert Mueller three times;

James Comey five times;

Barack Obama 45 times;

Kathleen Sebelius 56 times;

Bill Clinton 40 times; and

Hillary Clinton 17 times.

Between 1998 and 2017, Barsoomian herself represented the FBI at least five times.

You may be saying to yourself, OK, who cares? Who cares about the work history of this Barsoomian woman?

Apparently, someone does, because someone out there cares so much that they’ve “purged” all Barsoomian court documents for her Clinton representation in Hamburg vs. Clinton in 1998 and its appeal in 1999 from the DC District and Appeals Court dockets (?). Someone out there cares so much that even the internet has been “purged” of all information pertaining to Barsoomian.

Historically, this indicates that the individual is a protected CIA operative. Additionally, Lisa Barsoomian has specialized in opposing Freedom of Information Act requests on behalf of the intelligence community. Although Barsoomian has been involved in hundreds of cases representing the DC Office of the US Attorney, her email address is Lisa Barsoomian at NIH.gov. The NIH stands for National Institutes of Health. This is a tactic routinely used by the CIA to protect an operative by using another government organization to shield their activities.

It’s a cover, so big deal right? What does one more attorney with ties to the US intelligence community really matter?

It deals with Trump and his recent tariffs on Chinese steel and aluminum imports, the border wall, DACA, everything coming out of California, the Uni-party unrelenting opposition to President Trump, the Clapper leaks, the Comey leaks, Attorney General Jeff Sessions recusal and subsequent 14 month nap with occasional forays into the marijuana legalization mix …. and last but not least Mueller’s never-ending investigation into collusion between the Trump team and-the Russians.

Why does Barsoomian, CIA operative, merit any mention?

BECAUSE….

She is Assistant Attorney General Rod Rosenstein’s WIFE!
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/25/18 04:38 PM

My comment : China has now in place 2 mobile payment "ecosystem" that by-passes credit cards and the banks, called "Alipay" and "WeChat". Alipay was created by Alibaba in 2004. Despite these systems were not build on a blockchain concept and are not totally decentralized; these systems still challenged seriously the Banks while keeping transaction fees low both for the merchants and the consumer while improving significantly on the processing time.

The article further suggest that currently Trump and Elizabeth Warren wants to turn Amazon, Facebook, Twitter and other tech giants into public utilities.... then that opens the possibility that one day we could have "a national nonprofit digital ecosystem operated as a cooperative, a public utility in which profits are returned to the users in the form of reduced prices".

How China's Mobile Ecosystems Are Making Banks Obsolete


https://www.sott.net/article/394330-How-Chinas-Mobile-Ecosystems-Are-Making-Banks-Obsolete
Aug 22nd, 2018
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According to John Engen, writing in American Banker in May 2018, "China processed a whopping $12.8 trillion in mobile payments" in the first ten months of 2017. Today even China's street merchants don't want cash. Payment for everything is handled with a phone and a QR code (a type of barcode). More than 90 percent of Chinese mobile payments are run through Alipay and WeChat Pay, rival platforms backed by the country's two largest internet conglomerates, Alibaba and Tencent Holdings. Alibaba is the Amazon of China, while Tencent Holdings is the owner of WeChat, a messaging and social media app with more than a billion users.
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Alibaba created Alipay in 2004 to let millions of potential customers who lacked credit and debit cards shop on its giant online marketplace. Alipay is free for smaller users of its platform. As total monthly transactions rise, so does the charge; but even at its maximum, it's less than half what PayPal charges: around 1.2 percent.
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WeChat and Alibaba have grown into full-blown digital ecosystems-around-the-clock hubs for managing the details of daily life. WeChat users can schedule doctor appointments, order food, hail rides and much more through "mini-apps" on the core app. Alipay calls itself a "global lifestyle super-app" and has similar functions.
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Both have flourished by making mobile payments cheap and easy to use. Consumers can pay for everything with their mobile apps and can make person-to-person payments. Everyone has a unique QR code and transfers are free. Users don't need to sign into a bank or payments app when transacting. They simply press the "pay" button on the ecosystem's main app and their unique QR code appears for the merchant to scan.
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Engen writes:
"A growing number of retailers, including McDonald's and Starbucks, have self-scanning devices near the cash register to read QR codes. The process takes seconds, moving customers along so quickly that anyone using cash gets eye-rolls for slowing things down.... "
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The mobile payment systems are a boon to merchants and their customers, but local bankers complain that they are slowly being driven out of business. Alipay and WeChat have become a duopoly that is impossible to fight. ...The bank bears the compliance and other account-related expenses, and it does not get the fees and branding opportunities typical of cards and other bank-run options. The bank is seen as a place to deposit money and link it to WeChat or Alipay. Bankers are being "disintermediated" - cut out of the loop as middlemen.
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Like community currencies, an Amazon-style credit clearing system would be independent of both banks and government; but Amazon itself is a private for-profit megalithic system. Like its Wall Street counterparts, it has a shady reputation, having been variously charged with worker exploitation, unfair trade practices, environmental degradation and extracting outsize profits from trades. However, both President Trump on the right and Sen. Elizabeth Warren on the left are now threatening to turn Amazon, Facebook and other tech giants into public utilities.

This opens some interesting theoretical possibilities. We could one day have a national nonprofit digital ecosystem operated as a cooperative, a public utility in which profits are returned to the users in the form of reduced prices. Users could create their own money by "monetizing" their own credit, in a community currency system in which the "community" is the nation - or even the world.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/25/18 05:12 PM

My comment : The following two videos addresses Trump and Mainstream Media(MSM). The first from FoxNews suggest that Trumps is controlling MSM in the sense that all he has to do is tweet a little something and MSM goes crazy. The second is Dave's X22Report who shows what is Trump and his patriots Q-Team plan by using MSM to corner the Deep States in a "Mirror Image" trap.

Tucker: Trump controls the left's message
Aug 23rd, 2018 -- 6 min


What You Are Witnessing Is A Mirror Image Of What Is To Come
Aug 23rd, 2018 -- 25 min
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/25/18 05:41 PM

My comment : below are some misc world news taken from 2 of Stephen's post that had other stuff in it. I wanted to separate the world news from the coming Burning Man prayer campaign.

Q-Trilogy Movie, Military Tribunals, John Brennan
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/08-2018/current-events-in-the-news/
Aug 21st, 2018
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The Latest Q Reports

Q has often told us to “enjoy the show,” picturing events in Washington as a movie. On August 19, 2018 Q told us that what was now coming was a Trilogy, a series of three. His statement was very long, making it difficult to read without careful analysis. I will add to it just a bit in order to clarify it and also break it up a bit for easier reading. You can look up his original post #1927 here:

https://qanon.app

Originally Posted By: Q
The ‘TRILOGY’.

MOVIE1 [Full]: The ‘START’

PLOT: How the intelligence apparatus, State Dept. and Dept. of “Justice” of the United States,

In joint effort with our (x) primary foreign allies plus other covert assets, as directed by HUSSEIN [Obama in the White House] in coordination with Hillary Clinton,

Colluded and conspired to RIG THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION OF 2016 in an effort to install HRC, frame POTUS (by projecting her own crimes of collusion on Donald Trump),

Create emergency contingencies regarding installation of SAFEGUARDS and FIREWALLS to PREVENT EXPOSURE OR CONTINUATION OF PRESIDENCE, SHOULD COUNTER FAIL TO ENSURE OPERATORS, ACTORS, AGENTS OF POWER, PAST AND PRESENT, REMAIN IN CONTROL,

AND USE SOURCES/COVERT ASSETS OF THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA TO CARRY OUT X-FRAME BARRAGE OF STRATEGIC COORDINATED [GUIDED] ATTACKS

DESIGNED TO CONTROL AND PREVENT PUBLIC AWARENESS OF ILLEGAL, CRIMINAL, TREASONOUS ACTS.

[MOVIES 1-3 FULL LIST]

Coming SOON to a theater near you.

MOVIE 2—Coming this FALL.

Movie—TBA (To Be Announced).

Enjoy the show.



Analysis

In other words, Q is saying that the real “collusion” with Russia was conducted by Bill and Hillary Clinton, although the present case that Mueller is supposed to be investigating was actually collusion between the Clinton campaign and the British spy agency through Christopher Steele. Clinton is projecting her own guilt on Trump.

For a broader summary of this corrupt plot since the year 2001, see this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/98yduw/connnecting_some_dots/

The very people who are now investigating and opposing President Trump are the ones who were all in on the Clinton corruption since 2001. They have everything to lose with a Trump presidency, and so they are doing all they can to find a way to charge him with their own sins. The problem is that Mueller has been investigating for nearly two years now, and the best he can come up with is Stormy Daniels.

On August 1, the mainstream news media all got the same “talking points” at 4 a.m. from their bosses to run an attack on Q. Talk about collusion! And they claim to be a “free press!” No press is truly free. Every media company is owned by someone who has an agenda. The only thing “free” about the “free press” is that each media company is free to publish its own viewpoint, bias, or agenda.

Real journalism ended with the CIA’s Operation Mockingbird program that was established back in the 1950’s and exposed in the 1960’s. The CIA supposedly ended its propaganda effort when it was exposed, but the program simply went underground. You can read about it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird


Coming Soon to a Theater Near You

Last October, we held our Tabernacles conference at a theater-turned-church in Cloquet, Minnesota. Cloquet is just 20 miles from Ron’s home town, and the Father gave a word to him back in the 1990’s: “Watch for coming attractions to a theater near you.” Well, Q has been posting similar statements for months, including the recent post (above). I believe that all of our conferences prophesy of things to come, which is why we are led to hold those conferences at specific places that the Father provides.

In this case, the Cloquet conference was held on October 13-15, 2017 just before Q began posting on October 27. We have been watching the “coming attractions” ever since then.

It truly has been a drama, and Washington DC is the big stage. It appears that the plan is to set up a 3-act play or a movie trilogy. It is not clear what will come first, but I suspect that as documents are declassified and released, it will become clear who was really colluding with the Russians and the British to rig the elections. When that happens, the Mueller investigation of Donald Trump will fall apart, and the REAL investigation will begin.

As things progress, the Satanist influence behind many politicians, bankers, and other influential people will be exposed more and more. But it seems to me that this will be exposed in the aftermath of political scandals. I suspect that this will be seen in the third part of the trilogy.


Military Tribunals

Corruption on such a massive level is so entrenched and so powerful that it cannot be dealt with properly in ordinary courts of law. There are too many corrupt judges, and those who are honest would also have their lives threatened, along with the lives of their families. For this reason, President Trump has been preparing for military tribunals, as this is the only feasible way to fight such massive corruption among so many powerful people.

On December 21, 2017 Trump signed an Executive Order allowing confiscation of property by those guilty of human trafficking and “corruption” (in general). This EO also declared martial law, so that it could be enforced by the military, rather than relying on the public court system.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-...use-corruption/

In March he revised the Military Code of Justice to prepare for military tribunals.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2018-amendments-manual-courts-martial-united-states/

He has also been building more housing for prisoners at Guantanamo.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018...lder-chief.html

All of this has been going on while Trump replaces corrupt officials in the government agencies. On November 7, 2017 John Huber of Utah was given the authority by US Attorney General Jeff Sessions to begin investigating all of this human trafficking. He has more than 470 lawyers and judges working under him now. There is truly a lot going on behind the scenes.

Sessions has been very busy, and more than 45,000 sealed indictments have been written up in preparation for the day that the first movie of the trilogy begins. Some have already been unsealed and people arrested who have been involved in human trafficking. Thousands have already been arrested. These arrests have been reported, but the media has not focused upon these, preferring to put Trump into its headlines with negative stories.


John Brennan

One of the keys, I believe, is former CIA director John Brennan, who appears to be leading the sedition against the president. He has accused Trump of being a traitor for meeting with Putin privately. Many presidents have met with Putin privately, including Presidents Bush and Obama. I suspect that Brennan was just following the same script of accusing Trump of the things that he himself is guilty of doing.

When Trump took away his security clearance last week, he was infuriated, although there is no reason for him to even have a security clearance any more. He holds no position in government and is now just a “director of branding and programming” for the Cox Media Group.

https://www.coxmediagroup.com/john-brenn...-radio-whpt-fm/

He is now an analyst for NBC and MSNBC news. Security clearances are not rights. But the president has every right to revoke security clearances. Brennan is threatening to sue Trump, but Trump is saying, “Go ahead; make my day.” Trump would love to put his reasons on the official record in a court of law, as this would show that Brennan is guilty of sedition and treason, as well as incompetence and “erratic behavior.”


The Bottom Line

I suspect that the coming prayer campaign is going to shake some things loose in the spiritual realm and undermine the spiritual power that has kept some very bad people from being exposed for a long time. I have seen many times over the years how spiritual warfare tends to uncover and expose evil men, so that they fall from power and are sometimes prosecuted for their crimes.



The Turkey Conflict, Possible Banking Collapse, The fall of Luciferianism
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...and-other-news/
Aug 23rd, 2018
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The Turkey Conflict

In Trump’s war to take down the Deep State, he cannot just eliminate past alliances or put an end to some long-term policies. So he has embraced some of these bad long-term policies and is using them to destroy elements of the Deep State.

Most notable is the policy of weaponizing the US dollar by sanctioning countries and not allowing them to transfer money through the SWIFT system of online payments. He knows that weaponizing the US dollar will make other countries develop an alternate system—and this has already been done. China has already developed the CIPS system as an alternative.

But as Trump imposes sanctions on Iran, Russia, and now Turkey, it is clear to all nations that the sanctions policy is getting out of hand. (And let’s not forget about Venezuela.) Every nation is uneasy about this. Trump is literally pushing whole nations into the alternative system. Even Trump’s threats to the EU over trade with Iran and the oil pipeline from Russia is driving a wedge between us, forcing nations like Germany to shift their alliance to the Russia-China-Iran axis.

The side effect is that NATO is being undermined, not directly, but indirectly. Trump’s enemies might complain about the policies, but their complaints are muted because past presidents who were beholden to the Deep State invented that policy. So Trump is now using it against them to destroy the cabal-controlled US-EU alliance and to break up NATO.

The latest round is the sanctions on Turkey, using the arrested pastor as the excuse. The cause may be noble to Christians, but if we sanctioned every country that persecuted Christians, we would have few friends in the world. It is more important to analyze how presidents pick and choose which issues they want to use and which countries they wish to sanction.

Turkey is an important NATO member. It has long applied for EU membership, but so far has been rejected. Not long ago, Erdogan had a temper tantrum and punished the EU by allowing millions of immigrants to flood Europe. It was not difficult, since many Greek islands lie close to the Turkish mainland.

A few years ago, when the US State Department under Hillary Clinton sent Victoria Nuland to Ukraine with $5 billion to overthrow the pro-Russian government in a coup, the result was that oil and gas pipelines from Russia to Europe were shut down. Russia then made a deal with Turkey to bypass Ukraine. Another pipeline is being built in the Baltic Sea into Germany.

Trump’s sanctions on Turkey are pushing Turkey out of Europe and into a closer alliance with Russia. The Deep State knows what Trump is doing, but because Trump is also sanctioning Russia, it is hard for them to make the case against him. The policy is too far-sighted to prove that Trump and Putin are working together, mostly because it looks like the opposite is true. The Deep State has been Trumped.


Possible Banking Collapse

Turkey’s currency has been in a state of collapse for the past year. Its value has been cut in half, and Turkey has had to sell half of its USD reserves to try to prevent total collapse. At the end of last year Turkey had 500 tons of gold. Now they have just 200 tons.

The problem is that Turkey has a lot of foreign debt, and 1/3 of it is denominated in US dollars. To denominate debt in someone else’s currency is what McAlvaney called “the original sin,” because you lose control of the situation. In this case the US has tremendous leverage on Turkey just by increasing the value of the dollar and crashing the value of the lira. And Trump has declared a currency war on Turkey.

So when those debts come due, Turkey has to buy dollars with its own lira in order to pay its debt. But in the last year, buying dollars costs twice as much lira. This means Turkey’s US-denominated debts have doubled. This could be the setup for the biggest default in history.

Turkey owes Spanish banks $83.3 billion. Recall that the same Spanish banks have had to be sold or bailed out in recent years. Those banks are already on the brink of disaster. If Turkey defaults, the Spanish banks can hardly survive. French and Italian banks are also exposed to the Turkish situation, though not as much. Yet a Turkish default would probably push some of the weakest Italian banks into bankruptcy.

Any large bank going bankrupt would affect other banks, since this is a very contagious financial disease. Remember how the Lehman Brothers collapse in September 2008 nearly brought down the entire world financial system. The Babylonian system was saved at that time by the US taxpayer bailout, but the danger we are now facing is exponentially larger. If Turkey defaults, who will bail them out?

Essentially, Trump’s currency war is solidifying the alliance between Turkey and Russia. But if European banks begin to fail, it will undermine the EU itself and put a lot of pressure on the NATO alliance. I have no doubt that Trump understands this, so my conclusion is that he is doing this deliberately in order to achieve a more far-reaching goal. That goal is to take back America from the Deep State and from the Babylonians who rule the world mainly through the banking system. That process could be somewhat painful, but it must be done to force the world into a new paradigm.


The Fall of Luciferianism

It is now also apparent that the fall of Babylon will also mark the fall of Luciferianism, which the Masonic Order has been pushing on us for the past two centuries. Albert Pike, an avowed Luciferian, was the key leader of Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the last half of the 19th century. He planned for 3 world wars, the last of which would cause great disillusionment among Christians, Jews, and Muslims, and create a spiritual vacuum that the Luciferians could fill.

The plan worked, insofar as the first two wars were concerned. I believe that the US policy of destabilizing the Mideast after 911 was designed to bring about the third world war. It worked up to a point. But then Trump was elected, and he messed up the Pike Plan, causing it to fail.

I should say too that Putin was the first to take practical steps to destroy the Pike Plan when he began to destroy ISIS in late 2015. Syria was really the final battleground in this plan, and it very nearly worked. But the tide has turned, and now the Deep State is fighting for its life. Brennan is crying in his beer. Mueller is trying desperately to find something that can be used as an excuse to impeach Trump. Rosenstein is fighting hard to keep the Deep State’s crimes from being revealed to the American public.

Things are starting to get interesting. But overall, let us always be aware that God has never lost control of the situation, and that He intends to win. God always gets His way, even if it appears that He is losing. The long night of tribulation since the fall of Jerusalem in 604 B.C. has ended, and the judgments of God are now aimed at the Babylonians.

We have nothing to fear and everything to gain, regardless of the plans of men and nations. The Kingdom is about to get a whole new breath of fresh air as the gods of Babylon fall one by one.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/25/18 06:31 PM

My comment : The Burning Man festival in Nevada runs from Aug 26th to Sept 1st. This festival is a method employed by Mystery Babylon to normalize human sacrifice to the general public. Last Year I have reported on this festival where a man ran into the fire and ended up being a burning sacrifice.

This year, a group of Christian is launching a prayer campaign during the 7 days of the festival. Below are the preparation revelations and notes to this prayer campaign.

Progressive Notes on the Burning Man Prayer Campaign

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ng-the-kingdom/
Aug 6th, 2018

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Prayer Campaign Coming Soon

Over the past week end, we began to get revelation that we were to engage in another prayer campaign the last week of August. It will coincide with the Burning Man Festival being held in Nevada, so that should give you a hint as to what this is going to accomplish.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ceciliarodr...s/#4d83f6fc31f9

The Burning Man Festival is a thinly-disguised attempt to condition the public to accept human sacrifice. Last year, you may recall, a man actually ran into the burning structure and died in the flames. I believe his mission was to be that human sacrifice without implicating anyone else. Last April the founder died at the age of 70. They expect 70,000 to attend the festival this year.

The Festival was founded in 1986, which was the start of the 120th Jubilee from Adam. This upcoming festival will be the 33rd celebration. The number 33 is sacred to occultists, and the number is also why Freemasonry has 33 degrees. It is connected to the coming of the so-called “sons of God” on Mount Hermon, according to the Book of Enoch.

Mount Hermon was located at 33.33 degrees north, 33.3 degrees east, based on the Paris 0 meridian. The Paris meridian was important to Freemasons and to the occult in general. The Nephilim who were born in those days formed a bloodline that is still in existence today. It is the basis for the entire satanic movement today, and they rule the Babylonian beast system.

In my book, Deuteronomy, the Second Law, Book 1, “History of the Exodus,” I give a short history of Mount Hermon in chapter 12. There I show the connection between Mount Hermon and the Phoenix (i.e., Phoenicia). The Phoenix was said to be a mythical bird who was consumed by fire and then rose again out of the ashes.

The Burning Man Festival seeks to recreate the principle of the Phoenix, and that is why they burn their “temple” every year at the end of the Festival. The link to the article above tells us that it is “destined for ashes.”

There was also an article in The Economist in 1988 foretelling the rise of a new monetary system in the form of a Phoenix. The date was given as 2018.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-09/economist-get-ready-world-currency-2018

This is now 2018. So our prayer campaign has many sides to it, all focusing on the Burning Man Festival.

I will speak more of this as we get instructions from above.


Notice of Impending judgment against Moloch
Aug 15th, 2018
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...against-moloch/

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From reports that I have read, the US Department of Justice has been preparing to indict many corrupt corporate CEO’s, media moguls, government employees, and members of congress. First, however, it has been necessary to take the time to put the right people in charge of key government agencies, particularly the DOJ, the FBI, and the Supreme Court. Otherwise, we would only see the corrupt officials released, and justice would again be perverted.

This has taken a long time, because the president has been opposed at every step, as the Deep State tries desperately to delay or stop the tide of justice. They hope to kill or impeach the president before their corruption is exposed. But in my view, their time to rule (as a judgment of God upon the people for their lawlessness) has ended, and God is now holding them accountable. For this reason, I believe that we will soon see these officials of the Deep State exposed and prosecuted for their crimes against humanity.

What crimes?

The depravity of their crimes runs deep. In fact, it is so bad that the DOJ must start by prosecuting “lesser” crimes before charging people with more horrific crimes. The so-called “lesser” crimes are more political in nature, mainly treason, murder, and attempted murder of the president. While such crimes are grievous, they are not beyond comprehension.

The next level is pedophilia, which is now being exposed in Hollywood, even as it has already been exposed in the church since the turn of the century. The church—particularly the Roman church, but not limited to it—has taken most of the heat from the press in order to reduce or eliminate its moral influence (mostly its opposition to abortion).

However, the White Hats who are currently fighting the Deep State—with Donald Trump as their visible leader—appear to be using this as a starting point in the coming indictments. To expose more pedophilia in the Roman church is hardly a shock any more, but this can be extended to Hollywood and then to pedophilia rings within the US government itself.

So the news reported yesterday how a Grand Jury says that about 300 Catholic priests just in Pennsylvania molested more than 1000 children since the 1940’s.

http://www.fox29.com/news/local-news/deadline-looms-for-release-of-catholic-church-abuse-report-1

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HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) - A priest raped a 7-year-old girl while he was visiting her in the hospital after she'd had her tonsils removed. Another priest forced a 9-year-old boy into having oral sex, then rinsed out the boy's mouth with holy water. One boy was forced to say confession to the priest who sexually abused him.

Those children are among the victims of roughly 300 Roman Catholic priests in Pennsylvania who molested more than 1,000 children - and possibly many more - since the 1940s, according to a sweeping state grand jury report released Tuesday that accused senior church officials, including a man who is now the archbishop of Washington, D.C., of systematically covering up complaints.

The "real number" of abused children and abusive priests might be higher since some secret church records were lost and some victims never came forward, the grand jury said.


I suspect that the release of this news is designed to prepare us for much more yet to come. When people learn to accept the fact that their trusted priests, their Hollywood idols, and their favorite government officials have been unworthy of adoration, then we will begin to see deeper exposure.

This will not end until the people see the depths of depravity that has been going on largely in secret for a very long time. These are not merely crimes against children. Much of it involves satanic rituals and Luciferian religion dating back thousands of years to the time when the sacrificial murder of babies was commonplace and open.

In the land of Canaan and Moab, worship of Molech was particularly focused upon child sacrifice. It was not merely a religious principle to them. It was a way of gaining or maintaining spiritual power. Sin brings divine judgment, where people and whole nations are sold into slavery on account of sin. The slave masters (kings and priests) were more than happy to be the agents of divine justice, because this meant that their power increased with each sin that the people tolerated and supported.

The priests understood (in a perverted way) the ancient prophecy that the Son of God would come to die for sin. Not understanding it, they instituted false religions where the priests were said to represent God and that the women had to have sexual relations with the priest before she could be married. Many were impregnated by the priest (representing God), and the first-born sons were then sacrificed to atone for the sins of the people.

Worse yet, they also understood the principle of eating the sacrifice. The Levitical priests also ate of the sin offerings, but their offerings were lambs and goats, not children. The Canaanite priests ate the children, and that is where we get the word cannibal today. Canna-bal literally means “priest of Baal.”

There is cannibalism going on today, and it is quite common in certain satanic rituals. This includes drinking blood that has been oxidized by adrenalin. It is known as adrenochrome. It is created in satanic circles by torturing or terrorizing someone (often a baby). These Satanists then drink the adrenalized blood, which acts as a hallucinogen and is now the drug of choice among those who can afford it.

Some have already tried to expose this practice and have been ridiculed or banned from the Social Media. I don’t think that this practice will be the first thing that is exposed by the courts, as it would shock the general public too much, and many would simply refuse to believe that there are people out there who can be this evil.

Yet Revelation 18:2 tells us that when Babylon falls, the people will discover that “she has become the dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird.”

Apparently, much of this depravity remains hidden until the end, because Revelation 18:23 says, “all the nations were deceived by your sorcery.” The judgment of God is given a few verses earlier in Revelation 18:21,

21 And a strong angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, “Thus will Babylon, the great city, be thrown down with violence, and will not be found any longer.”

The law says nothing about any sin that must be judged with a millstone. So how would a pedophile or cannibal be judged? Obviously, the judgment of the law would not demand that someone else eat the cannibal. Jesus hinted at the answer in Matthew 18:5, 6,

5 And whoever receives one such child in My name receives Me; 6 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it is better for him that a heavy millstone be hung around his neck, and that he be drowned in the depth of the sea.

I believe that a heavy millstone will be hung around the neck of Babylon itself (metaphorically speaking) and will be cast into the sea. Of necessity, this will also include a lot of Babylonians. The time to repent is NOW. It may be that God will forgive. But I suspect that many will not repent. History is full of examples where divine judgment has fallen upon the inhabitants of wicked cities, even in cases where God spared a few of them.


Prayer Campaign against Molech (or Moloch)

It appears that we are being called to engage in spiritual warfare against Moloch from August 26 to September 1, 2018. Molech is the chief god of child sacrifice (and abuse in general). This prayer campaign will begin on the first day of the Burning Man Festival in Nevada, and it will end when their temple is burned down on the evening of September 1.

The law of God says in Leviticus 20:2, 3,

2 You shall also say to the sons of Israel, “Any man from the sons of Israel or from the aliens sojourning in Israel, who gives any of his offspring to Molech, shall surely be put to death; the people of the land shall stone him with stones. 3 I will also set My face against that man and will cut him off from among his people, because he has given some of his offspring to Molech, so as to defile My sanctuary and to profane My holy name.

Later, in Jeremiah 32:35, the prophet condemned Judah for violating this law, saying,

35 They built the high places of Baal that are in the valley of Ben-hinnom to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech, which I had not commanded them nor had it entered My mind that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.

See also Jeremiah 19:5, 6, where this sin is the main reason given for the impending destruction of Jerusalem in Jeremiah 19:10, 11.

The doctrine of a burning hell to pay for sin is derived from the worship of Molech. Such a penalty for sin never entered God’s mind, the prophet said. We are to engage in a prayer campaign against Molech, in part, to prepare for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. It is to ensure that the coming outpouring is not based upon the doctrines of Molech, but upon true justice in the law of God and upon the restoration of all things.

We are still in the process of discerning the details of this prayer campaign. I will keep you informed as we learn more.



https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/08-2018/current-events-in-the-news/
Aug 21st, 2018
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Burning Man Prayer Campaign

This is a reminder that our prayer campaign is scheduled to begin on Sunday, August 26, ending the following Saturday evening, September 1. The purpose of this prayer campaign has much to do with child sacrifice and satanic ritual abuse, which is far more common than most people realize.

If you recall from Brother Vinnie’s report, which I posted on August 16, their baby was burned with hot water just before they left on their trip to Italy. That took place in Burnaby (Burn-a-baby), B.C. That event was an “accident,” as men would view it, but we see this as a spiritual attack upon one of us. This is what has given us lawful cause to engage in this prayer campaign.

I received two “snake” reports yesterday which also give us some insights in this campaign. Both reports came from different men named John. Coincidences are God’s fingerprints. One was a dream and the other was a real-life encounter with a King Snake (Nachash). In both cases, the snake was invading their property—or perhaps spying on us, trying to spot weaknesses. More legal cause.

I believe that these are both connected to the coming prayer campaign, giving us insights about what we are up against and how we are to deal with the serpent in the garden (Nachash).

I strongly suspect that this prayer campaign will prepare the way for political events and judicial prosecutions/exposures in the near future.


https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...and-other-news/
Aug 23rd, 2018
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Burning Man Prayer Campaign

My “notice” to Molech, posted August 15 has really stirred up the hornets’ nest.

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...against-moloch/

The Angel of Support was released the same day.

The date also marked the 70th anniversary of the division of Korea into North and South. North Korea itself was established formally on September 9, 1958.

As a reminder, the prayer campaign itself begins this Sunday, August 26, at 7:22 p.m. CST.

There has been a flurry of activity lately, and this has already resulted in a steady stream of battles (“skirmishes”) in preparation for the coming prayer campaign. The enemy is probing for weaknesses but finding that they just lose their own assets when they try this. Fortunately, we (the local team) have good discernment and either can see them coming or hear from our Father when to expect them.

This has become nearly a daily occurrence, so it keeps us quite busy and takes up a lot of my time. It can also be a lot of work, accompanied by some pain and trauma. This stuff is very real and “in the world” as these entities attack us. So please continue to be in prayer for us. It is really nice that we have developed a team of people who can hear and discern the problems and can then deal with them. It used to be that I would have to do all the work myself.

Today, of course, is the 70th anniversary of the formation of the World Council of Churches in 1948. I’m not sure if any specific event will mark the date, but we are watching.


Notes on the Burning Man Prayer Campaign
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...rayer-campaign/
Aug 24th, 2018
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We had a swarm of spiritual activity yesterday afternoon with high-level demonic princes coming in from around the world. We had no difficulty dealing with them, of course, but it did take a lot of time and effort.

This morning, John Schaenzer came to my office to share and to ask some questions in regard to the Anoka Project, which I have participated in for the past two years. Recall that the town of Anoka is a northern suburb of Minneapolis and is known officially as the “Halloween Capital of the World.” It is full of witchcraft, complete with shops openly selling satanic items, although since we started our Anoka Project, we have seen a number of those shops go under.

In our context, Anoka is the head of the snake that we have been encountering for some years. This “head” is just now being exposed so that we can see it and understand it for what it is. Sean has been doing prayer work along the Mississippi River for a long time, and we now understand the river to be a type of the body of the snake. A couple of weeks ago Sean was led to pray at a dam on the river at the south border of Anoka, not far from my house. This location was like the neck of the snake, if we consider Anoka to be its head.

It seems that we are closing in on this spiritual snake. The worst thing about religious spirits is that that they bring witchcraft and satanism into the church.

Because Anoka is such a satanic hub, it is a magnet for high-level spirits from around the world. They come to town, not realizing that it is a trap. They are drawn blindly, because this gives us opportunity to deal with those spirits, and this indirectly undermines the satanic activities in foreign countries. Every spirit that is captured and bound reduces the level of evil power in the places where they came from.

Yesterday we mostly bound various types of religious spirits, mostly from Central and South America, but also one who came in from the Middle East. I don’t want to say much more than that, but we became aware that this work is having an international effect, not just local.

All of this is preparatory to the Burning Man Prayer Campaign that is scheduled to begin Sunday evening, August 26. I am planning to write a model prayer for those who are led to participate in this week-long prayer campaign.



Burning Man linked to the Hungry Ghost festival
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...y-man-festival/
Aug 24, 2018
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It appears that our Burning Man prayer campaign coincides with another festival in the Far East called the Hungry Ghost festival. It seems to have similarities to Halloween, and this gives us the direct link to Anoka, the Halloween Capital of the World.

Some of you may remember my friend Chai, from Singapore, who was baptized a couple of years ago at a Branson conference. This morning he sent me this email. (Be sure to look at the link, which explains the festival more completely.):

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Dear Dr Jones,

Regarding the prayer campaign above, I just like to point out to you that this year's burning man festival starting date coincides with the ghost festival kept by the taoist / Buddhist Chinese all over the world. Each year on the 15th day of the 7th lunar calendar month, Chinese will burn incense, paper effigy, offer food to the hungry spirits. It is said that the gates of hell will be opened this night each year for the spirits to enter the living realm to roam freely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungry_ghost?wprov=sfla1

Hence, our prayer campaign may not only be directed to the burning man festival in Nevada, but may have effect on the spirit worship by worldwide taoist / Buddhist Chinese as well. Just my thoughts that I think you like to be aware of.

Best regards,

Chai


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/25/18 06:48 PM

My comment : In Post# 187246 last week I have reported about Mosanto-Bayers losing a liability trial and ended up paying $290 million cancer liability damage. Well thousands other trials has been filed. Looks like Mosanto-Bayers won't survive all of these. Another good sign that Mystery Babylon is falling before our eyes.

Thousands of glyphosate cancer-risk lawsuits filed against Bayer's Monsanto

https://www.sott.net/article/394306-Thou...Bayers-Monsanto
Aug 24th, 2018

Monsanto cancer ruling sparks backlash around the globe


https://www.sott.net/article/394343-Monsanto-cancer-ruling-sparks-backlash-around-the-globe
Aug 14th, 2018
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/28/18 01:59 AM

My comment : John McCain passed away Aug 25th. There's a lot of "coincidences" around that incidence mostly noted by QAnon post. Anyway I saw a few good QAnon videos; that Stephen brings out these Q points plus a few more. Too bad I can't bring the photos here so it would be better to read this directly at the Weblog.

In summary, Q knew a month ahead exactly the time and the date when John McCain was going to die because it was pre-agreed to let him go with some dignity in exchange to some info.

Coincidences mount as Senator John McCain passes
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...-mccain-passes/
Aug 27th, 2018

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It is being reported that Senator John McCain of Arizona died of brain cancer at 4:28 pm, Saturday, August 25. He was 81. There are a number of strange coincidences, however, making me wonder if there is more to the story than meets the eye.

https://nypost.com/2018/08/26/mccain-and-ted-kennedy-died-of-the-same-cancer-exactly-9-years-apart/

Sen. John McCain died exactly nine years after his friend Sen. Ted Kennedy — and of exactly the same thing.

Kennedy, a Democrat, passed away Aug. 25, 2009 at age 77, after a battle with glioblastoma — the same rare type of brain cancer afflicting McCain, who died Saturday at age 81.

This in itself seems strange but not out of the realm of possibility. It may also be just a coincidence that McCain died on the evening before the National Day of the Dog, August 26.

https://nationaldaycalendar.com/national-dog-day-august-26/

What does that have to do with McCain?

On June 30, someone posted a comment/inquiry which Q answered in post 1649.

www.qanon.pub

Originally Posted By: Anon
“Please do not let No Name [i.e., John McCain] off the hook. He is a disgrace to Veterans across this great country and needs to be held accountable.”


During the last election, McCain refused to speak Trump’s name. So Q always refers to McCain either as “No Name” or “We don’t say his name.” The anon above was referring to McCain past military record, which is very controversial. If interested, here is one site that speaks of this:

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/earlhopperinterview08feb08.shtml

Q’s response to the comment above was:

Originally Posted By: Q
No Name action.
Every dog has its day.
Enjoy the show.
Q


Is it just a coincidence that McCain died on the eve of National Dog Day?

On February 11, 2018, Q posted a picture of McCain meeting with the leaders of ISIS. This is just one of many photos, which Q has posted in past months. John Brennan fumed and accused President Trump of treason when he met in private with Putin recently, but he said nothing when John McCain met with the leaders of ISIS. Obviously, ISIS was a creation of the CIA, just as Hamas was a creation of the Israeli Mossad. (You can find all that information online.)

Here is the picture of McCain with the ISIS leaders (from Post #732):

08-27-2018-Mccain-Img-1.jpg

Under this picture, Q commented:

Originally Posted By: Q
We don’t say his name returning to prime time.
Wonder if his so-called illness/condition will flare up.
“He’s not a war hero.”
He’s a mega millionaire.
M-Institute.
https://www.mccaininstitute.org/donors/
Rothschild/Clintons/SA/etc.
[Not complete].
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact...m=.6f4afe2deed2
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-0...aises-questions
Define money laundering.
Define the word ‘Traitor’.
A world w/o this man is a world better off.


From the above post, we can see Q’s skepticism about McCain’s illness, which he seemed to develop the day that he was given an ankle bracelet (tracking device) last year. I don’t know how many of you saw his “boot,” which he said was from injuring his ankle. The problem was that his injured ankle kept shifting from the left to the right side.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/john-...article/2641581

So which ankle did he injure? This made a lot of people quite suspicious. This obvious fake ankle injury also made people skeptical about his subsequent “brain tumor,” and people began to speculate that this was part of a plan for him to fake his death in order to avoid prosecution for his long history of criminal activity. He would have been arrested in 1976, along with many others, had not the investigative reporter, Don Bolles, been assassinated mafia-style with a car bombing while on his way to pick up the dossier of evidence.

http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/repo...ter-don-bolles/

It is reported that McCain’s connections to known mafia families made him a fortune.

https://www.wnd.com/2008/02/57354/

There is too much to report here, but the point is that Q (in the earlier post) was hinting that the McCain Institute was used for money laundering, and its list of donors (Saudi Arabia, Clintons, etc.) was to gain influence in the US government.

Q posted about McCain again on April 4 in post #1022:

Originally Posted By: Q
We don’t say his name.
Adios.
The protected flow into AZ is no more
Under the cover of his health, he will not be seeking another term.
Q


Here again Q hinted that McCain’s health was just a “cover” for dropping out of politics.

On July 25, 2018 Q posted the picture below at precisely 18:28:35 EST (military time). If Arizona had been on Daylight Savings Time, it would have been 4:28 pm. But Arizona does not change the time, so it was 3:28 pm. (Perhaps Q forgot that Arizona did not go on Daylight Savings Time!) This picture, showing McCain in a “surrender” pose, was posted precisely 30 days before McCain actually died (4:28 pm on August 25, 2018).

08-27-2018-Mccain-Img-2.jpg

So also, after McCain died, Q posted the next day:

Originally Posted By: Q
Suicide weekend?
Hands up?
[30]
Impossible?
Coincidence?
We are in control.
BIG week ahead.
Q


The “30” no doubt refers to Q’s post 30 days earlier when he posted the picture of McCain in a surrender pose. (However, since July has 31 days, the time is actually 31 days.) Likewise, his question, “Hands up?” identifies this post with the McCain photo. But he suggests that it was a “suicide” of sorts. In other words, it was a planned “death,” scheduled for that day by some prior agreement that Q knew about 30 days in advance.

In other words, McCain’s death was planned to coincide with the anniversary of Ted Kennedy’s death as well as the National Dog Day. His announced death at 4:28 pm, coming precisely 31 days after Q’s post on July 25, is astounding, to say the least.

Impossible? Q asks.

Coincidence? Q asks.

Is Q an amazing prophet? I ask.

I think it is more likely that Q is not a prophet but that he knew that it was planned in advance that McCain was going to “die” on August 25, and that his “death” would be official at 4:28 pm.

My guess is that he made a plea deal with the Justice Department, allowing him to “die with dignity” without being dragged into court when the DOJ begins unsealing the 45,000 sealed indictments. I don’t think the DOJ would allow McCain to live out his days on a luxurious Paradise Island in the Caribbean.

As I see it, there are two main possibilities. The first possibility is that he was taken to Guantanamo to face military justice. The second possibility is that he was allowed to commit suicide in the old Roman tradition, rather than face trial. McCain will receive the usual honors at the capital. Although Vice President Pence will be invited to the funeral, President Trump has been told to stay away.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...ticle-1.3973241

I have heard that McCain’s casket will be closed. I have not heard anything official about this, but if those reports are false, it is not difficult to create a wax image—a little expensive, of course, but not difficult. It has been done many times in the past.

Finally, it seems more than coincidental that this would occur just before our prayer campaign was to begin. Is it a time marker in some way? That would depend largely on the significance of McCain’s “death.” I suspect that more information may come out in the future, but I think little or nothing will be revealed until after the funeral. If some plea bargain has been made with the DOJ, then we may have to wait 50 years for the secrets to be revealed.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/28/18 05:20 PM

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The Festival was founded in 1986, which was the start of the 120th Jubilee from Adam. This upcoming festival will be the 33rd celebration. The number 33 is sacred to occultists, and the number is also why Freemasonry has 33 degrees. It is connected to the coming of the so-called “sons of God” on Mount Hermon, according to the Book of Enoch.

Mount Hermon was located at 33.33 degrees north, 33.3 degrees east, based on the Paris 0 meridian. The Paris meridian was important to Freemasons and to the occult in general. The Nephilim who were born in those days formed a bloodline that is still in existence today. It is the basis for the entire satanic movement today, and they rule the Babylonian beast system.
The answer in the form of a question:
What is numerology?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/31/18 08:02 PM

My comment : Good review and article about the RCC and a little on how they fit within the Beast Kingdoms of the Statue. This whole statue that had the head of the King of Babylon prophecies that it would be conquered by other Beast Kingdoms. God allowed all of them to rule each in their own time period but together they ruled for a total period of 7 times (7x360 = 2520 years) from the destruction of Jerusalem. 2018 is the end of this 7 times prophecy period. The proof will be in the pudding if this interpretation is accurate.

By reporting the news I can say that we have witnessed the destruction of Mystery Babylon with it's Deep State infiltration in many countries. Trump has done quite a bit in accelerating this process. We also see in the news that Mystery Babylon's Mega-Corp partners is also being destroys.

This coming Fall Feasts watch dates will be quite interesting to watch and to witness some more of this final fall of this current Beast called Mystery Babylon.

So for the RCC, being one of these Kingdom Beast, it is inevitable that it too will be destroyed with Mystery Babylon. All these Beastly kingdom were not prophecied to be "eternal". They were given a time to rule. Only the Kingdom of God given to the Saints of the Most High(the overcomers or 144K) is said to have that qualification to last forever and ever in Daniel.

Also something to note, I think the fall of Mystery Babylon and the destruction of the entire statue into dust (whatever interpretation you have to this) are different prophecies on different time frame. The end of these Beast Kingdom to rule on earth is marked with the fall of Mystery Babylon. What I hope to witness is to see the complete fall of Mystery Babylon in 2018; whereas the destruction of the entire statue into dust which to me means the destruction of all their corrupt systems will take time. All the nations has much erronous laws and ways of governing that these can only be removed within their countries legal, economic, and other systems as the nations learns thru the millennium more of God's laws (Isa 2:2-4) and come to make these changes themselves. So I do not expect a total radical quick restructure even with the New Global Economic Restructure. For the nations to change their nation's systems can only come via learning, understanding, and agreeing with God's law which if understood correctly with the New covenant mind it is the best way to run any government and country economic system so the people can really fleurish to produced much fruits.

So even if Mystery Babylons falls in 2018; the removal of millenia of corruption in any nation's language, culture, government and economic system will be a gradual process and probably will take the whole millennium to bring all Nations under God's Kingdom rule as Daniel 2:35 says that the little stone (God's Kingdom) will grow into a great mountain and filled the whole earth. It takes time for a little stone to grow into a Great Mountain to fill the whole earth.
This time frame is not define; but I don't believe that it will be quick and Christ is not going to force the nations. But this doesn't mean that the authority to rule the world hasn't been given to the Saints of the Most High(the overcomers) when it was yet a little stone. It only means the overcomers and Jesus will proceed with love to teach them a better way to live as these nations will be in search of a better solution to their problems that Mystery Babylon and their ways has left them with.

The decline and fall of the Roman Church

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...e-roman-church/

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The prophet Daniel had one of the most comprehensive prophecies in the history of the world, spanning literally thousands of years into the future. He foresaw four (actually five) major empires that were to arise in the centuries ahead, prior to the establishment of the Stone Kingdom. All of the earlier kingdoms were to be temporary; only the Stone Kingdom was said to “endure forever” (Daniel 2:44).

Of course, each kingdom fancied that it would last forever. To suggest otherwise would have been viewed as seditious. But Daniel boldly told King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon that his kingdom would be replaced by another. If the king had done his research, he would have seen from Jeremiah’s writings that Babylon was to last just 70 years. No doubt Daniel himself knew this, but he tactfully refrained from informing Nebuchadnezzar, because this detail was not part of the king’s dream that he was interpreting.

After Babylon came Persia, then Greece, then Rome. To each was ascribed a metal (in Daniel 2), but in a later vision (Daniel 7) the prophet saw these empires as various animals (“beasts”). After the fall of the fourth beast (Rome), another beast was to arise as an extension of Rome. It was pictured as a “horn,” which is an extension of a beast.

Historians tell us that Rome fell in 476 A.D., and that a religious beast arose afterward that carried on the dominion of Rome for many centuries. It was the Roman church. The beginning of this “horn” was described in Daniel 7:25 in terms of “alterations in times and in law.” The emperor of the Eastern Roman Empire, whose name was Justinian, changed the Roman calendar (“times”) to make Christ’s birth the reference point. He then changed the laws of the empire to conform to Church law.

The complete process took about ten years (526-536/537). The “horn” was then to rule for “a time, times, and half a time” (or 1,260 years) until 1786-1796, when the French Revolution struck a serious blow to the Roman church. Out of this arose Napoleon, who took the Pope captive in 1798. Revelation 13:3 refers to this as a “fatal wound” which was then “healed” in 1804, when Napoleon reinstated the Pope in order to have someone crown him as emperor.

But John then went beyond Daniel’s revelation to tell us that a second beast would arise at that time. This was to be a financial/banking beast, and indeed, that was when the Rothschild banks got their start, setting the tone for the modern banking system. From then on, the two beasts—the first from the sea, and the second from the earth—were to work together until the establishment of the Stone Kingdom.

We are now at the end of the time of beast rule. The total time frame of beast rule from Babylon to the final beasts was (by law) set at “seven times” (Leviticus 26:18), or 2,520 years. During the time of the third beast (Greece), the beasts had been deprived of rule when Jerusalem was independent (63-163 B.C.), so that century had to be added to the total. The time thus fully ended in 2017, which is 2,620 years from the fall of Jerusalem (604 B.C.) to the end (2017).

The number 2620 is interesting, because it happens to be a marathon. A marathon is a long race of 26.2 miles, or one percent of 2620. Indeed, the great tribulation has been a marathon.


Transfer of Authority

In September of 2013 it occurred to me we should soon expect to see the transfer of authority that was prophesied in Daniel 7:21, 22 as the final beast empires collapsed. The “seven times” were drawing to completion (2014-2017). The banking beast from the earth ought to collapse and be replaced by a more righteous system shortly. Likewise, the religious beast from the sea (Holy See) also should collapse shortly as authority was given to the overcomers.

I have written extensively already about the economic/financial/banking situation, but less about the Roman church’s collapse. Yet it is clear that both must give way to the saints of the Most High when the true Kingdom of God is set up. The Roman church fancies itself to be the Kingdom of God, but in fact it is the fulfillment of the kingdom of Saul, not David.

Saul too thought that his kingdom would never end—and indeed, if he had been obedient, his kingdom would have endured indefinitely (1 Samuel 13:13). But his calling as a Pentecostal type (being crowned on the day of wheat harvest, or Pentecost) worked against him, because Pentecost was insufficient to establish the Kingdom in its final form.

Likewise, the Roman church, which fulfilled Saul’s reign, was not to endure forever, contrary to their own fanciful idea that it would last forever regardless of its internal corruption. But now the corruption is bubbling up to the surface where it is being exposed and judged. In the end, Saul fought a losing battle with the Philistines, and he committed suicide rather than risk being taken captive (1 Samuel 31:4).

So I have been watching to see how this prophetic story might be fulfilled in the Roman church in our time today. I hardly expect the final pope to commit suicide in a literal sense, but I do expect the church to make some suicidal policy decisions that would destroy the Roman church as an institution.

When this occurs, I also expect to see the former Roman Catholic people themselves come under the dominion of King David. In other words, they will become citizens of the true Kingdom of God, which is based on faith in Jesus Christ, rather than faith in the previous institutional church. Right now, many of them do not really know the difference, but when the Roman church collapses from the weight of its own corruption, they will have little choice but to find an alternative.


Unbearable Ugliness

In January 2002 the avalanche of Roman church scandals began to be reported in the news media, and soon the Roman church was in a state of crisis. Multi-million dollar lawsuits were filed. Many stopped giving donations to the church, as people realized that the money would not go to charitable causes but only to pay the lawsuits. Many Diocese went bankrupt, as billions of dollars were paid to thousands of victims of sexual abuse by pedophile priests.

This was the beginning of the final judgment upon Saul’s kingdom. The popes continued to offer tepid apologies for the misdeeds of individuals within the church, but they seemed more concerned with covering up incidents than with cleaning up the corruption itself. Cardinal Bernard Law, for instance, had to flee to Rome to avoid prosecution, where he was promoted to a higher position and received a cushy mansion in reward.

But the Roman church could not hide any longer, nor will it survive. Disillusionment has already set in among many Catholics. Church pews are emptying; donations are down. Pedophilia continues, and some have remarked that the priesthood looks more and more like a gay men’s club. Here is an article that appeared recently, written by a disillusioned Roman Catholic:

http://theweek.com/articles/792775/unbearable-ugliness-catholic-church

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How will the Roman Catholic Church survive the scandals engulfing it on every side?

It's a hyperbolic question, but one with a serious intent.

Of course the church will continue to exist in some form. Two-thousand-year-old institutions with a billion adherents and solid growth rates in the developing world don't disappear overnight, no matter how thoroughly corrupt they are revealed to be.

But in what form will it survive?


Yes, the Church will continue to exist in some form—but not as a Roman Catholic institution. The house of Saul will not endure. It will be replaced by the house of David (2 Samuel 3:1). David was a type of Christ and also a type of overcomer. Whereas Saul was crowned on the day of wheat harvest, i.e., Pentecost (1 Samuel 12:17), David was crowned on a Jubilee, which is the preparation day for the feast of Tabernacles.

The article above continues, saying,

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Sixteen years and roughly $3 billion in financial settlements later, the scandal is back. This time its focal point is Theodore McCarrick, the former archbishop of Washington, D.C. — a man who had been promoted to top positions in the church despite being credibly and repeatedly accused of a range of acts of sexual predation, including the years-long abuse of a boy (whom McCarrick had reportedly baptized as a baby) starting when he was 11 years old.

As if to underscore that the problem goes far beyond a single wayward prelate, the revelations about McCarrick, which broke in mid-July, were quickly followed by the release of an exhaustive (1,400-page) grand jury report that identified 1,000 cases of childhood sexual abuse at the hands of more than 300 Catholic priests in the single state of Pennsylvania (where I live with my wife and children). Other states are apparently preparing similar reports of their own.


This year’s exposure of McCarrick may well be the final blow to the Roman Church, given the fact that this is 2018. The divine authority was fully passed to the overcomers on the eighth day of the feast of Tabernacles, October 16, 2017. From that point on, I have expected to see events move toward the collapse (or takeover) of the banking system and the Roman Church.

The manner in which prophecy will be fulfilled is usually unclear until it happens, but as the time approaches, real events begin to expose the truth to those who have eyes to see.


Opposition in Catholic Ireland

Ireland recently passed a law permitting abortion. No doubt the recent Church scandals have brought so much disillusionment to Irish Catholics that the sword of Saul was no longer able to withstand the onslaught of the Philistines.

The Pope visited Ireland recently but “addressed a crowd roughly one-tenth the size” of the crowd a previous pope had addressed in 1979.

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Four decades ago, Ireland was among the most homogeneously and fervently Catholic countries in the world. When Pope John Paul II visited in 1979, he was greeted by crowds of well over a million people. Last weekend, three months after the overwhelming passage of a referendum that repealed the pro-life provision of the Irish constitution, Pope Francis addressed a crowd roughly one-tenth the size.

What has changed? In the intervening years, Irish Catholicism has been crushed by an avalanche of scandals involving the widespread decades-long abuse (sexual and otherwise) of children in the country's schools and childcare system.

Here is one of the big scandals rocking the church in Ireland:


http://us.pressfrom.com/news/world/-181326-ireland-seeks-church-reparations-for-mass-baby-burials/

I do not see how it is possible for the Roman church to remain in its position of power when Catholics themselves are becoming disillusioned in droves. It seems to me that the only glue holding the church together is their claim that it is an “eternal” church. But is it really? Saul’s reign was not eternal. The word “eternal” is olam, which only means “indefinite, hidden.” In other words, it will last until corruption causes it to collapse and God replaces it with something better.

When we understand Daniel’s prophecies, we see that the Roman church is part of the “beast” system, an extension of the corrupt Roman Empire. It does not reflect the nature of God nor the life of Christ. Instead, it acts like a beast, which consumes grass (“all flesh is grass”). Being just one of the beast empires means that it must collapse when the time of tribulation runs its course.

We are now living in that time of the end. Being aware of this, we can watch events as they unfold before our eyes, and we can understand what is happening. This is not merely about the collapse of beast systems. This is about a massive change in government, brought about by God’s decree giving authority to the saints of the Most High. These saints are the overcomers, those who have the character of Christ, who will not exercise authority in a self-serving way to perpetuate corruption and to abuse children.

The transition may be painful to those who do not understand, but we should be encouraged at the signs of Christ’s Kingdom and a better world ahead.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 08/31/18 10:43 PM

My comment : In the news, the Pope new teachings abolished the death penalty. Probably in an attempt to save their priesthood and others in Mystery Babylon guilty of child sacrifice or Pedophilia from the coming judgment. I listened to Jim Willie's latest interview this morning and he and V from Rogue Money believed that John McCain was the first death penalty made [partially] public. So when the Military Court system will be fully in place and these 45,000+ indictments open and prosecuted; Jim and others suspects that many will have the death sentence like John.

Also it is interesting that in one article below the Church tried to cover up these crime by blaming the children by saying they seek affection from the priesthood when they couldn't find it at home.

Papal lawlessness

Aug 31st, 2018

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Pope Francis abolishes the death penalty

Following an old tradition, he believes that popes have the right to abolish (or “evolve”) God’s law. It is a classic case of usurping power, rather than remaining a steward.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/08/02/pope-changes-death-penalty-teaching-now-inadmissible.html

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Pope Francis, in a reversal of church teaching, said in a new policy published Thursday the death penalty is always “inadmissible” because it “attacks” the dignity of all people….

The Vatican defended the policy, saying it wasn’t contradicting past teaching but evolving it.


Too bad earlier popes didn’t adopt this. Millions of so-called “heretics” would have escaped torture and death. So does this new law apply to heretics as well as to pedophiles?

Given the context, I suspect that the pope is trying to prevent the execution of pedophile priests.


Pedophile priests absolved?

Well, not quite, but close. Call it absolution by inaction.

https://saintandrewstwinflame.com/2017/0...ests-necessary/

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Pope Francis has come under fire after announcing that over 2,000 pedophile priests will not face criminal prosecution and may be absolved by the Vatican for their heinous crimes….

According to Fox News, Pope Francis acknowledged that the Vatican has a 2,000-case backlog in processing clerical sex abuse cases and says criticism of the slow pace was justified. But he says more staff are being added and insists the Vatican is ‘on the right path.’

In this instance, “on the right path” likely means “we’re going to do nothing about it.” The Church has a long and dark history of covering up pedophilia cases and protecting priests caught raping children. Earlier in May, the Vatican also come under fire for forgiving a priest who admitted to raping 30 young children, infecting them with the HIV virus….

According to a report out of the AP, Pope Francis has quietly reduced sanctions against a handful of pedophile priests, applying his vision of a merciful church even to its worst offenders in ways that survivors of abuse and the pope’s own advisers question.


One of the ways in which pedophiles are being absolved is the proposition that the children themselves are at fault—a clear case of Guilt Projection.

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One such event that was covered up by the Vatican and the Western media at large was the reverend Gino Flaim, who claimed to “understand pedophilia” and said it’s caused by the child’s attempt to find affection.

He told Italy’s La7 television channel, “I’ve been to lots of schools, and I know children. Unfortunately, there are children who seek affection because they don’t receive it at home and I understand that some priests can give up. Pedophilia is a sin, and like all sins has to be accepted.”

When the interviewer asked Flaim, “So, you actually mean that most of the time it’s because of the kid’s fault?”

Flaim responded by saying, “Yes, most of the time.”


After condoning pedophilia and blaming it on the child, this holy man went on to bash homosexuality, calling it a “disease.”


So the message is clear: parents, give your children proper affection so that they don’t seek it from a pedophile priest. If there are any such children out there who sought such priestly “affection,” please step forward and identify yourselves.

By the way, Mr. Pope, only the victims have the right to forgive sins committed against them. That is the Law of Victims Rights. You (the judge) do not have that right according to God’s law. You can forgive them for sinning against the church, but you do not have the right to forgive them for abusing the children.

Unless, of course, God’s law has been put away.


The Religious Spirit

The root problem of the Roman church (and most other denominations) is that men want a man to rule them instead of God Himself. Most do not understand the problem because they do not understand the story of King Saul. Because Saul was a king, most do not make the connection to religious leaders who rule the people. But 1 Samuel 8:4-7 says,

4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah; 5 and they said to him… “Now appoint a king for us to judge us like the nations.” 6 But the thing was displeasing in the sight of Samuel when they said, “Give us a king to judge us.” And Samuel prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord said to Samuel, “Listen to the voice of the people in regard to all that they say to you, for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me from being king over them.”

Saul was a type of the church, even as David was a type of Christ and overcomer. Saul usurped authority; David remained a steward of God’s authority. The underlying issue was whether or not the people desired a direct or indirect relationship with God. This also determines whether a man is under the Old Covenant or the New Covenant.

The Old Covenant puts people in bondage to men. The children of the Old Covenant are in bondage, because they are children of the bondwoman (Galatians 4:25). As long as men are enslaved to a church denomination that puts away God’s law and presumes to know the will of God by their own spirituality, they cannot come fully under the New Covenant, even if they think they can. At some point, church teaching will contradict Scripture, and when men disagree with the law, they always tend to legalize some sin.

But thank God, Saul is now dead. The house of Saul too is becoming weaker and weaker, even as the house of David is gaining strength. We are of the house of David, if we remain good stewards of the gifts, callings, and authority that God has given us, and if we come into agreement with God.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/01/18 09:16 PM

Instead of repenting, the Roman Church spends millions to protect pedophile priests

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ophile-priests/

Sept 1st, 2018

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These articles are from 2016, which is fairly recent but not part of today’s breaking news. It shows how the Roman church has been working to save itself from having to pay damages for the sins of pedophile priests. Their money-saving program comes at the expense of the victims.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...ticle-1.2655010

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ALBANY — Not leaving it to divine chance, the state Catholic Conference has turned in recent years to some of Albany's most well-connected and influential lobby firms to help block a bill that would make it easier for child sex abuse victims to seek justice.

The Catholic Conference, headed by Timothy Cardinal Dolan, has used Wilson Elser Moskowitz Edelman & Dicker, Patricia Lynch & Associates, Hank Sheinkopf, and Mark Behan Communications to lobby against the Child Victims Act as well as for or against other measures.

All told, the conference spent more than $2.1 million on lobbying from 2007 through the end of 2015, state records show. That does not include the conference's own internal lobbying team.

Filings show the lobbyists were retained, in part, to work on issues associated with "statute of limitations" and "timelines for commencing certain civil actions related to sex offenses." Other issues included parochial school funding and investment tax credits.

"They are willing to spend limitless money in order to basically keep bad guys from being accountable for their actions," said Melanie Blow, chief operations officer of the Stop Abuse Campaign. "I think they're doing it because they don't want to have to pay out settlements."


See also this article about the Child Victims Act referred to in the above article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/card...48910?cid=bitly

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New York's statute of limitations bars victims of childhood sexual abuse from filing criminal charges or civil claims after their 23rd birthday. Victim advocates say it is one of the most restrictive in the nation.

Supporters of the Child Victims Act say the Catholic Conference, the lobbying arm of church's bishops, has been the bill's biggest obstacle. The CVA — one of a handful of bills under consideration — would eliminate the civil and criminal statutes of limitation for victims.


The article says that Cardinal Timothy Dolan didn’t want to discuss the issue yet, but the problem is that time was running out for many victims to file charges against pedophile priests because of restrictive laws in New York.

No doubt the Cardinal knew that the longer he could delay things, the less money the church would have to pay out in damages to its victims. True repentance, of course, shows a heart-felt desire to make restitution, as we see in the biblical case of Zaccheus, who gladly paid fourfold for defrauding people in their taxes (Luke 19:8). Jesus responded, “Today salvation has come to this house.”

I wish we could say the same about the Roman Church.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/01/18 09:36 PM

My comment: This is something I've missed to bring here. Perhaps it was not in the news.

However, in 2015 Obama's justice department was working to legalize and normalize twelve perversions. The few mentioned was bestiality, polygamy, having sex with little boys, and pedophilia. It would be informative to see the whole list; but below is interesting enough to read Mystery Babylon's agenda having already seen this work being laid down in our communities to bring more corruption in many areas.

Below is not the whole article but just about the subject below.

2015: Obama's Justice Department was working to Legalize and Normalize Twelve perversions.

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/08-2018/we-have-turned-the-corner/
Aug 31st, 2018

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In 2015 former Congressman Tom Delay stated that Obama’s Justice Department was working to legalize and normalize twelve perversions.

https://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/Tom-DeLay-Justice-Department-perversions/2015/06/30/id/652929/

Former U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay claims the Justice Department has drafted a memo that spells out a dozen "perversions," including bestiality and pedophilia, that it wants legalized.

"We've … found a secret memo coming out of the Justice Department. They're now going to go after 12 new perversions. Things like bestiality, polygamy, having sex with little boys and making that legal," DeLay said Tuesday on "The Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV.

"Not only that, but they have a whole list of strategies to go after the churches, the pastors and any businesses that try to assert their religious liberty. This is coming and it's coming like a tidal wave."

The Texas Republican's bombshell claim comes four days after the Supreme Court ruled that same-sex marriage is now legal in all 50 states — a landmark decision DeLay strongly opposes.

When Steve Malzberg repeated to DeLay his assertions that the Justice Department seeks "to legitimatize or legalize" practices such as bestiality — defined as sex acts between humans and animals — DeLay responded:

"That's correct, that's correct. They're coming down with 12 new perversions … LGBT [short for lesbian gay, bisexual and transgender] is only the beginning. They're going to start expanding it to the other perversions."

Obama legalized gay marriage in 2015 and suddenly the news media treated the issue as if it had been good and right since the beginning of time. Anyone caught disagreeing in public was ridiculed. The same tactic would have been used with pedophilia and bestiality, if Hillary Clinton had been elected president in 2016. After eight years of Hillary as president, America would have been a very different country.

Each time a moral standard is lowered, it is only another step in the greater goal to bring us down to the level of animals (lower, actually). This push really got its philosophical start in the 1800’s, when the Darwinian view that man was just a more intelligent animal took root. They set out to prove his case by degrading the morals of the country and the world.

Morality was already becoming extinct among the wealthy industrialists, bankers, and “high society” in general. But the average family, being “backward” and “ignorant,” still held on to a belief in God and in the principles of morality set forth in Scripture. Their weakness was the view that God’s law had been put away and was no longer relevant. All that was needed was grace—quite literally, lawless grace. This teaching eroded the morals in the church itself and tended to neutralize its moral voice.

After all, if the law of God has been put away, then one can replace it with whatever principle one wishes. Even if the new standard claims to be based on “love,” who gets to define love? Pedophilia means “child love.” Is that love? What about bestiality? Is that love? Some would insist that it is. The Bible forbids it along with homosexual relations.

Another big problem is that pedophilia is often accompanied by torture and cannibalism, which are probably two more perversions that Tom Delay saw on the list that was scheduled to be legalized and normalized. These things are already happening. If they were not already popular, no one would be pushing to get them legalized. People want such things to be legalized, not so that they can do these things but so that they can do them openly without being arrested. And if anyone objects, these people can then sue anyone who speaks out against them.

Many do not understand that the push for legalization is not just to give people the right to engage in perversions in the privacy of their own homes; it is to give them the right to sue anyone who suggests that such behavior is a sin. In other words, they seek to create an unlevel playing field, restricting anyone from trying to save someone from their sinful life style. They do this through the laws against “hate speech.”

It was inevitable that “hate crimes” would ultimately be enforced in the opposite way in which they were presented when congress passed such bills. Everyone thought that hate crimes referred to racial hatred, when in fact this law was intended to forbid anyone to speak out against immoral behavior that the government intended to legalize and normalize.

Freedom of speech, as intended by our founders, is being eroded very quickly as the Deep State tries to stamp out Christianity as a whole in the name of “freedom of religion.” There are those who claim that prayer itself incites Christians to violence.

https://christianjournal.net/featured/mi..._source=Message

No matter that the Socialists themselves (such as Antifa) are calling for violence against anyone who supports President Trump. Hate speech only applies to Christians, after all. The irony is that real Christians do not hate people, and prayer is properly used to bless and not curse (James 3:10-12). Hatred comes from the non-Christians or from those who are Christian by religious membership only.

In California, now that gay marriage is the norm, it is now illegal to provide “conversion therapy” for those who want to change their life style.

http://time.com/2940790/california-ban-on-gay-conversion-therapy-stands/

No doubt it will still be legal to provide conversion therapy to those who want to become gay. I have met or heard from quite a few Christians who are genuine believers but who want to be healed of homosexuality. California would remove their right to seek therapy. Are Christians to abide by that new law? Should we refuse to help such people? In the name of freedom, California is restricting freedom. But that is the purpose of these laws, which are passed by those who hate Christ and anything Christian.

More and more Christians are finally awakening to the fact that Satanists are behind this push. They hate Christ with a passion and want to create a Christianity-free world. They will use “freedom of religion” to destroy Christianity. They will use the “hate speech” laws to forbid public prayer, evangelism, and the spread of Christianity. Frankly, we came within inches of disaster in the 2016 elections. Larry Nichols, who was an assassin for Hillary Clinton, has said publicly that Bill Clinton told him that Hillary regularly attended a witches church in Los Angeles.

http://www.exposingsatanism.org/hillary-clintons-witchcraft/

Many presidents have brought in witches and have done seances in the White House, but Hillary would have brought witchcraft directly into a new position of power over the nation.
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That is why the coming outpouring of the Holy Spirit is absolutely necessary to bring about the Kingdom of God. The Holy Spirit must demonstrate to the witches and Satanists that God loves them too and has created them for a good purpose. The Holy Spirit is not coming to destroy them but to conquer them with His love. Right now, they think God hates them, so they hate Him back. And they are frightened by the prospect of the Kingdom of God. This motivates them to fight Christ with all of their strength.

This perception must be changed. And Christians too must rediscover the heart of God.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/01/18 10:24 PM

My comment : Since I do read Q posts daily, I was aware of this not knowing what it meant. Q posted about these CIA supercomputers going offline on Aug 30. The same day Hal Turner confirm this but it wasn't reveal where his source came from.

http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/...ellites-offline

Today Stephen posted about this with good sources confirming these shutdown of these supercomputers. Stephen attributes this as a victory sign of the Burning Man prayer campaign. That after Bruce Ohr's testimony which was the final nail in the Deep State's coffin; that the military went ahead to shutdown these computers & satellites that will disable the bad guys in the CIA. That this will open the door in September [hopefully] for the start of the prosecutions of the 45,000+ indictments. I do surely hope so as I was hearing that these might be only start after the mid-term election.

Since, we don't know what type of problems we will suffer from having these supercomputers and satellites blacked-out, nor do we know how the Deep State is going to respond to this, Q posted today the following link that the president declared this September as a national preparation month.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-...ess-month-2018/
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NOW, THEREFORE, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim September 2018 as National Preparedness Month. I encourage all Americans, including Federal, State, and local officials, to take action to be prepared for disaster or emergency by making and practicing their emergency response plans. Each step we take to become better prepared makes a real difference in how our families and communities will respond and persevere when faced with the unexpected.

So it would be wise to follow these cues and make sure we are prepare for whatever is coming this fall. I expects lots of things could happen from the fight of the Deep State against their overthrow of power, from [hopefully] some Economic RESET whether it be from a currency re-evaluation or some sort of countries debt forgiveness or adjustment or bringing the gold standard -- all these things are expected to come but no one knows when or how they will come.

Has the final battle just occurred?
Sept 1st, 2018

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Today is the last day of the Burning Man prayer campaign. So we can say that we will achieve victory this evening. Anyone who has read Sun Tzu’s The Art of War knows that no one should go into a war unless he has won that war in advance. That is also Jesus’ policy when He sends us into spiritual warfare.

I suspect that we are now seeing signs of victory in Q’s postings as well. I find the coincides significant. Yesterday, Q wrote a series of 16 posts dealing with the shutdown of the Five Eyes satellites and the NSA’s seven supercomputers, which are collectively known as Snow White and individually called by the names of the seven dwarves.

https://principia-scientific.org/breakin...tellite-access/

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BREAKING: Vital US spy satellites rendered blind – no access by other nations. Pentagon declining to comment. Respected former CIA analyst predicted the action – connected to Donald Trump. Conspiracy theorists say ‘QAnon‘ behind it.

Today, sources from the Intelligence Community are confirming critical CIA mainframe computer systems are offline rendering SEVEN spy satellites in the dark.

Tech staff are working furiously to find out what happened and fix it. In Britain MI5, MI6 and GCHQ are in panic mode as speculation grows this is President Donald Trump’s retaliation for the discredited ‘Steele-Russia dossier‘.

‘QAnon’ users of QMAP – an alleged US government website – have been posting frantically overnight claiming this was a planned ‘attack’ and a victory against the ‘Deep State’. They pointed to ‘Q drops‘ (‘breadcrumbs’ of alleged intel from qanon.app – another US military intelligence website) to prove this is a coordinated, precision military operation (screenshot images below):


This site accuses Q of “posting frantically overnight,” when in fact Q was not at all frantic. Only this news article is “frantic” about this turn of events.

The article continues,

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If the reports are correct, the ramifications are that, not just the CIA, but all US foreign allies are rendered ‘blind’ to vital intelligence information until a fix is found. Until then there is an almost complete blackout of most “Black-Ops” Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) and Satellite Communications (SATCOM) satellites.

Therefore, the CIA is now unable to perform certain “key hole” surveillance with gaping holes in their ability to intercept various signals; i.e. certain phones, certain radios, certain internet coms, etc.

If the US Department of Defense (DoD) anticipates imminent reform or abolition of the CIA it could explain why the DoD is “dramatically consolidating our IT networks…” Twitter (Aug 31, 2018).

If the ‘QAnon’ folk are correct this means a self-serving elite who previously thought they ran the world, (i.e. the Intelligence Community within CIA and NSA) are now deaf, dumb, and partially blind (they may possess modest, localized on-the-ground SIGINT capacity).

Independent sources are linking to a key story from last year ‘This Is How Five Eyes Dies’ (March 30, 2017) which forewarned of such a deliberate attack. ‘Q’ posted a cryptic comment last night that suggests Britain’s spy hub, GCHQ was thrown into panic:

“GCHQ Bude sent DISTRESS SIG 8:09 EST. NSA NO MORE. Q”

The message (screenshot below) being seen as the National Security Agency (NSA) peremptorily terminating Britain’s access to America’s spying secrets.

‘GCHQ Bude’ employs 50 intelligence staff, is a UK Government satellite ground station and eavesdropping centre located on the north Cornwall coast at Cleave Camp near the village of Morwenstow. It is operated by the British signals intelligence service, officially known as the Government Communications Headquarters, commonly abbreviated GCHQ.


For those interested in learning more about GCHQ Bude, look here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCHQ_Bude

For those interested in learning more about Corona, which Q mentions, look here:

https://www.cia.gov/news-information/fea...classified.html

For those interested in learning more about KH-9 Hexagon, alias “Big Bird,” look here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KH-9_Hexagon

This shutdown has effectively shut down the bad elements in the CIA who also have had access to these supercomputers. This is a war between two factions in the intelligence community. Whatever is going on, this shutdown is undoubtedly one of the most significant events in the power struggle going on behind the scenes.

I quoted extensively from the article above in case it is blocked by Google. But there is much more in the article, and the author quotes Q extensively. If you can, you should read the entire article for yourself.

They say that “knowledge is power,” and this translates into the power of the intelligence communities. Nonetheless, there is more than one form of power. There is military power, which relies heavily on intelligence information, and yet not totally. There is political power (the president, congress, etc.). There is religious power (the pope, the Dalai Lama, etc.). There is financial power (wealthy bankers).

Then there is spiritual power (the overcomers and to some extent every believer).

Each has its own power to act upon an agenda. I may be biased, but I believe that spiritual power is the greatest of these, and when it is in the hands of those who follow Jesus’ instructions and commands, it is greater than all other powers in the world.

The question, I suppose, is the timing of this satellite shutdown. On the surface, it appears to make America vulnerable to foreign attack, because these projects were put in place supposedly to tell us if missiles from Russia or China had been launched and were heading our way. However, this intelligence was also used to spy on Americans and to control people, rather than protect them. In the name of “national security,” many illegal things have been done in secret without the informed consent of the people.

This has affected the whole world. There are many reports, now declassified, which show how the CIA has overthrown governments, assassinated leaders around the world, and, of course, influenced elections in nearly every other country.

It appears that this has all come to a head, and that nothing will be the same after this. The fact that this has happened toward the end of our prayer campaign will be considered to be a mere coincidence to those who do not believe in the effectiveness of spiritual warfare. But as for me, I don’t believe in coincidences. (Neither does Q.)

For the past few weeks, ever since the Spirit of God began to stir in me and speak of a coming prayer campaign, I had an awareness that this was more than just about human sacrifice to Molech. That has been a key issue at the heart of the prayer campaign, of course, but we ought to view human sacrifice as a means to attain spiritual power that blinds the people and puts them under the political control of the worshipers of Molech and other false gods.

America has a secular government on the surface, but the hidden agenda is religious. The purpose of a secular government is to dethrone Jesus Christ and to rid America of its biblical roots that has shaped its culture. Their plan was to eradicate Christianity and then replace it with some form of Satanism. Albert Pike’s plan was to bring about three world wars, culminating in great disillusionment that would create a spiritual vacuum to be filled by Luciferianism. I wrote about it here:

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...history-part-2/

It appears that Bruce Ohr’s testimony before congress earlier this week put the final nail in the coffin of the Deep State. By testifying that he kept top FBI and DOJ officials “in the loop,” keeping them informed of the fake Russian dossier, he implicated Robert Mueller’s top “bulldog,” Andrew Weissman. Some say that Ohr’s testimony will destroy Mueller’s investigation.

Immediately following Bruce Ohr’s testimony, the military moved in and shut down the satellites and supercomputers used by the CIA and the British MI6 to control the world. I suspect that when the truth is finally reported, we will learn that this event was the real takedown of the Deep State. I suspect that this has also opened the door to actual prosecutions, and that US Attorney General Jeff Sessions will now take center stage, along with Chief Investigator Horowitz and the Chief Prosecutor John Huber (with his 470 special prosecutors on staff).

Jeff Sessions has been a very busy man behind the scenes, but most of the high-level indictments have been sealed up to this point. As of August 1st, there were about 45,000 sealed indictments, and about 5,000 new indictments have been added each month for over a year. Cases have been building, and now, I suspect, we will start to see these begin to be unsealed.

Many have complained about Jeff Sessions as if he has done absolutely nothing. But in reality, he has been a very busy man. Trump publicly complains about him, but that has been just a show in order to trick the mainstream media into supporting Sessions. After all, any enemy of Trump is a friend of the Deep State.

Now that the media has defended Sessions against Trump, they will have a difficult time accusing Sessions of political bias when he begins arresting the Deep State officials. Trump is actually a very good actor, something he learned years ago when he was saying “You’re Fired!” on his television program.

Q has told us consistently to “Trust Sessions,” even though Trump has appeared to quarrel with him and complain about his inaction. Trump’s complaints have increased lately, and he has even threatened to take action personally. I interpreted that to mean that we were nearing the time when Sessions would begin arresting people. Trump was actually rallying public support to demand legal action that would “force” Sessions to arrest those whom Sessions had already indicted secretly!

So it is quite possible that these arrests may begin shortly. That is when the mainstream news media will be the mouthpiece of panic for the Deep State in the final days of the overthrow of Mystery Babylon.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/04/18 05:54 PM

My comment : Benjamin Fulford also confirms the CIA Satellite and Supercomputers being brought offlines. Fulford links this to a coming financial reset that will all take place before December 2018. He talks also about Nathaniel Rothschild (NR) that has joined the other side of the battle. This is not the first time Ben has mention NR. He has mentioned about NR switching sides some time before in his weekly reports which I don't remember when.

Benjamin Fulford 9-3-18… “‘Good side’ of Rothschild family says Trump will stage financial reset”

Quote:
The deadlock has ended in the undeclared U.S. civil war that lasted all summer, and the good guys have already begun a series of stunning moves against the cabal, including shooting down their secret satellites, multiple sources confirm. Also, a complete reset of the global financial system has already begun, assert CIA sources connected to the self-described “good side” of the Rothschild family. And this is just a prelude to what promises to be a very eventful month of September, the sources agree.

The satellite shoot-down was first reported by the mysterious blogger “Q” and has been independently confirmed by three separate sources. “On August 30, CIA satellites and supercomputers were taken down and likely seized by [U.S. President Donald] Trump’s new space force, and GCHQ [British Intelligence] was removed from the NSA database to also render cabal elements in the UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Japan, France, Germany, and Israel deaf and blind,” Pentagon sources explained.

A CIA source in Asia who was involved in setting up the secret satellite network that was taken down last week issued the following warning to colleagues: “We are in potential danger. I hope your vehicles have fuel and you have emergency food and water on hand. There’s no telling who did this or why… and now that some of our satellites are down, God only knows what may be coming at us.”

Meanwhile, a third source says Nathaniel Rothschild’s faction was involved in the shoot-down, saying, “Nat is back in play. He is with us. We are dismantling the Nazi/Antarctica global grid of communications. This includes several orbiting satellites, one of which has already been eliminated.”

The communications takedown is a prelude to both a military and financial offensive against the cabal, Pentagon and CIA sources agree. For reasons of operational security, the Pentagon sources cannot say much about the military action other than “a U.S. military offensive is under way to terminate the defenseless and disoriented cabal.”

However, the financial dimension of the cabal takedown involves “a gold-backed dollar and arrests next week,” says former (there is never really a “former”) CIA agent and Marine Intelligence officer Robert David Steele. Separate CIA sources linked to the Rothschilds add, “We are already in a global currency meltdown. It cannot be stopped. The financial reset is imminent. Watch what happens to the price of gold and silver. This all takes place before December 2018. Trump has a very big part to play. He is closely linked to the good side of the Rothschild clan. (Nat is in play again).”

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/05/18 05:39 PM

My comment : The following is other Q-news relating to Jeff Session, more on the CIA satellites and supercomputers shutdown, Alice and Wonderland that connected Saudi Arabia funds to Hillary and its connection to human trafficking, the order of taking down human trafficking in SA-US-Asia-EU, POTUS took the job because he couldn't stomach the mass murders to satisfy Moloch. All these items are linked together in bringing down the human murdering and sacrifices done for Moloch that ties to the recent "Burning Man Prayer campaign"

I wanted to add to the article below some more background about Sessions to complete the picture of the timing and his importance in his role.

1. The Trump & Session Show : Back in Aug 23rd, Donald Trump and Sessions were going back and forth in showing some displeasure. Actually, Q had long told us to trust Sessions and to enjoy the show. This display between Trump and Session was part of the show. As many has commented including Dave from x22Report that Trump was showing displeasure towards Sessions so that the Deep State and its Media would side with Sessions. By the begin of Sept the MSMedia started to say that Sessions should stay. The Q team goal was reached and shortly after we got the supercomputers shutdown.

2. Impartial Justice : I was trying to find the small speech Sessions had made that time when he said "“While I am Attorney General, the actions of the Department of Justice will not be improperly influenced by political considerations. I demand the highest standards, and where they are not met, I take action,” Sessions said in a direct response to Trump's interview on Fox."
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-2...enced-politics.

The qualification of having unpartial investigation and judgment is the standard God sets for His court proceedings.

3. Biggest Investigation Team in history : Plus Sessions put up a very robust team of 470 investigator. The biggest team in history to tackle the 50,000 indictments. Here's a quote taken from Q #1553 post from Jun 18th 2018.
Quote:
-Sessions informed Congress in his letter that all the matters recommended for investigation by Goodlatte, Gowdy, and Grassley are “fully within the scope of [Huber’s] existing mandate.” He also informed the chairmen that Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who is working with Huber, has a staff of 470 investigators, giving Huber access to enormous investigative firepower that far exceeds the staff of any special counsel. (Who needs a SC with that type of manpower?)
-The inspector general’s jurisdiction to conduct civil and criminal investigations includes “actions taken by former employees after they have left government service.” Then Huber can act on any of those matters.
-This is HUGE A Grand Jury can be empaneled anywhere, in any deep red state, away from D.C. (This is very important and why Trump needed to appoint as many Judges as possible)


Jeff Sessions coming soon into the limelight

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...-the-limelight/

Sept 1st, 2018
Quote:
Q posted this yesterday (post #2044).

09-01-2018-Jeff-Sessions-coming-soon-into-the-limelight-1.jpg

In recent months some Republican members of congress have been calling for a second special counsel to investigate Hillary Clinton’s role in the attempted coup against President Trump via the fake dossier that she paid for. These calls for a special counsel are coming from those who do not realize that this would be a big mistake, because it would simply drag out the process from 2-4 years without any control of the process.

The actual plan has been to put it under the jurisdiction of the investigator, Mr. Horowitz, and his team of 470 prosecutors led by John Huber. They have been working behind the scenes under Attorney General Jeff Sessions, and it appears that the results of this investigation will soon be made public.

Q tells us on August 30 in post #2006,

Quote:
Emotions cloud judgment.
Why is ‘Huber’ being discussed now?
What if the TX Congressman was not supposed to drop that name?
Why is ‘Huber’ being discussed now?
Why is ‘Huber’ (all of a sudden) being grouped into the ‘Anti-Sessions’ remove, fire, … nothing being done?


A few minutes later on the same date, Q questioned the wisdom of calling for a 2nd special counsel (SC). Post #2007 says,

Quote:
We should use a 2nd SC in DC [SWAMP] (team of 20) and wait 2-4 years and hope for the best w/ NO CONTROL.
But….
Logical thinking ELIMINATES emotional nonsense.


Q was not advocating a 2nd Special Counsel. He was saying that it makes no sense to replace the Horowitz investigation team with a small team of just 20 that would be attached to a 2nd Special Counsel—and then have to wait for years to get results.

This was Q’s last post before getting into the 16 posts about the supercomputers and satellites going down.

Quote:
(Time: 17:30) Snow White 3 now offline.
(Time: 17:35) Snow White 4 now offline.
(Time: 17:36) Snow White 6 now offline.
(Time: 17:37) Snow White 7 now offline.
(Time: 17:44) Corona 1 now offline.
(Time: 17:45) Corona 4 now offline.
(Time: 17:45) Corona 8 now offline.
(Time: 17:47) Corona 16 now offline.
(Time: 17:52) BLIND EYES IN THE SKY.
SHALL WE PLAY A GAME?


On January 21, Q posted:

Quote:
SNOW WHITE [1, 2, and 5] offline.


Now it appears that SNOW WHITE #3, 4, 6, and 7 have been shut down as well. We do not know why it took so long or why the shutdown was in two stages, months apart.

As I mentioned in my previous weblog, Snow White is what they call the supercomputer system, and each one is named for one of the seven dwarfs. On February 5, 2018 Q posted: “Dopey FREED.” Dopey is the name of one of the seven dwarfs (computer).

The spy satellites (Corona) have been shut down as well, rendering the CIA “blind,” along with the “Five Eyes” spy program (5 nations sharing intelligence). Corona is the satellite spy system set up decades ago, first to spy on the Soviet Union and now to spy on everyone. On February 10, 2018 Q said,

Quote:
Silence is golden.
CORONA OFFLINE_Dead[0000].


I am not sure what that means, but it seems to imply that the spy satellite was “dead” for a short time in February. It must have been restored later, or it would not have been shut down yesterday.

The question, “Shall we play a game?” was part of the 1983 movie, War Games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXzNo0vR_dU

Q’s quotation suggests that there is a war going on behind the scenes, and that the takedown of the CIA spy apparatus is a major move in this war.


Alice and Wonderland

Almost since the beginning, Q has been talking about Alice and Wonderland, asking how far we want to go down the rabbit hole. On November 4, 2017, just a week after the Q posts began, he identified “Alice” this way:

Quote:
We need to get organized.
Things need to be solved to understand what is about to happen.
Let’s start w/ Alice & Wonderland.
Hillary Clinton in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll.
Saudi Arabia – the Bloody Wonderland.
Snow White.
Wizards & Warlocks.
Q


From this we see that “Alice” is Hillary Clinton and that her main source of income, via the Clinton Foundation, was Saudi Arabia. Somehow this was also connected to “Snow White,” the supercomputers.

On the same day of this posting, the Saudi prince began arresting dozens of corrupt government officials (and other princes), confiscating their ill-gotten wealth and thereby cutting off Hillary’s source of funds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-waleed-bin-talal.html

More than that, according to Q on December 19, 2017, the Saudi takedown resulted in the release of 3,000 kidnapped children.

Quote:
3,000-plus saved by the raids in SA alone.


On November 5, 2017, (post 88) Q told us the order in which the main players of the Deep State would be taken down:

Quote:
SA (1), US (2), Asia (3), EU (4).


Last November the first takedown of the Deep State took place in Saudi Arabia (SA). Yesterday the second takedown occurred in the US. It seems that next will be “Asia,” and then the “EU.” Post 95 on November 5 says again,

Quote:
What happened in SA will happen here, Asia, and EU.


In Post 100, November 5, Q shows that he is aware of the Satanist component in this war with the Deep State.

Quote:
Satan.
Who follows?
What political leaders worship Satan?
What does an upside down cross represent?
Who wears openly?
Why?
Who is she connected to?
Why is this relevant?
Spirit cooking.
What does Spirit Cooking represent?
Cult.
What is a cult?
Who is worshipped?
Why is this relevant?


First, the one who openly wears an upside down cross is Chelsea Clinton. Many pictures have been taken of her wearing this Satanist symbol.

09-01-2018-Jeff-Sessions-coming-soon-into-the-limelight-Img-2.jpg

Secondly, “what is spirit cooking?” This is a satanist ritual meal promoted by Marina Abramovic. It made the news last November when emails surfaced where John and Tony Podesta were invited to a Spirit Cooking dinner in 2015.

https://wearechange.org/spirit-cooking-disturbing-podesta-email-yet-warning-graphic-content/

Spirit Cooking is a representation of cannibalism, if not actual cannibalism. Hence, this is all part of a broader problem of Satanism, pedophilia, torture, and cannibalism. This is not a conspiracy theory. It is actually happening, and many people in high-level government circles participate in this stuff. Q knows this and targets them for takedown.

The supercomputers have recorded everything that these people have done, all their phone conversations, their locations, their activities, who they have met, etc. When Trump’s appointees were put in charge of the intelligence organizations, they were able to extract proof of all these things, and (along with actual testimony from those arrested already) have indicted more than 45,000 people to answer for their crimes.


Why Did Trump Run for President?

On November 11, 2017 Q wrote in Post 153, which I had forgotten but just now re-discovered:

Quote:
For the coming days ahead.
Ask yourself an honest question, why would a billionaire who has it all, fame, fortune, a warm and loving family, friends, etc. want to endanger himself and his family by becoming POTUS?
Why would he want to target himself and those he cares about?
Does he need money?
Does he need fame?
What does he get out of this?
Does he want to make the US/world a better place for his family and for those good and decent people who have long been taken advantage of?
Perhaps he could not stomach the thought of mass murders occurring to satisfy Moloch?


So Post #153, the number representing the “sons of God,” turns out to be the key to our own prayer campaign against Moloch (or Molech—it is spelled both ways in Scripture).

When I first received this word from the Lord about holding the current prayer campaign against Molech, I had long forgotten that Q had posted something about Molech just two weeks after he began posting (October 27). If Trump’s desire has been to end the “mass murders occurring to satisfy Moloch,” then we are on the same page and are fighting the same war, though on a different battlefield.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/05/18 11:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
1. The Trump & Session Show:

Back in Aug 23rd, Donald Trump and Sessions were going back and forth in showing some displeasure.

Actually, Q had long told us to trust Sessions and to enjoy the show. This display between Trump and Session was part of the show. As many has commented including Dave from x22Report that Trump was showing displeasure towards Sessions so that the Deep State and its Media would side with Sessions.

By the begin of Sept the MSMedia started to say that Sessions should stay.

The Q team goal was reached and shortly after we got the supercomputers shutdown.

ROFL

::: from The Late Show with Elle

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/07/18 06:07 PM

My comment : In Post #187392 about the CIA satellites and Supercomputers put offline so to render the Deep State Deaf, Dumb, and Blind before the now 50,000+ indictments can start being prosecuted. Well that will be a time where the Deep State will retaliate in any way possible for this event as they knew this was coming ever since they lost the Election when Trump won instead of Hillary.

So Dave at X22Report brings together the current news and the Q posts that we are arriving at this point of time for prosecution and to be prepare for many retaliation, diversions, false flags... from the Deep State to try to stop it.

Also on Aug 31st, POTUS (Trump) "proclaim September 2018 as National Preparedness Month. I encourage all Americans, including Federal, State, and local officials, to take action to be prepared for disaster or emergency by making and practicing their emergency response plans. Each step we take to become better prepared makes a real difference in how our families and communities will respond and persevere when faced with the unexpected.."

I would take this seriously because the Patriots and the POTUS Team have a plan and know where we are today in the plan. That's why they proclaimed Sept 2018 as a National Preparedness Month so to get the people prepare for these coming unexpected events from the Deep State.

We Knew This Day Would Come,Conspiracy No More,Protective Measures Are In Place
Sept 6th, 2018
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/07/18 09:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : I would take this seriously because the Patriots and the POTUS Team have a plan and know where we are today in the plan. THAT'S WHY they proclaimed Sept 2018 as a National Preparedness Month so to get the people prepare for these coming unexpected events from the Deep State.

THAT is not the reason why.

Since September 11, 2001, the US Government has taken steps to encourage all citizens to make their own survival preparations. Since its inception in 2004, National Preparedness Month is observed each September in the United States of America:

  1. September was chosen as National Preparedness Month, as the tragedies of September 11, 2001 highlighted to the nation the importance of being prepared.
     
  2. Also September has been chosen partly because of the peak of the Atlantic hurricane season is in mid-September.

::: Source: National Preparedness Month

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Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/09/18 05:59 PM

Originally Posted By: James Peterson
Originally Posted By: Elle
My comment : I would take this seriously because the Patriots and the POTUS Team have a plan and know where we are today in the plan. THAT'S WHY they proclaimed Sept 2018 as a National Preparedness Month so to get the people prepare for these coming unexpected events from the Deep State.

THAT is not the reason why.

Since September 11, 2001, the US Government has taken steps to encourage all citizens to make their own survival preparations. Since its inception in 2004, National Preparedness Month is observed each September in the United States of America:

  1. September was chosen as National Preparedness Month, as the tragedies of September 11, 2001 highlighted to the nation the importance of being prepared.
     
  2. Also September has been chosen partly because of the peak of the Atlantic hurricane season is in mid-September.

::: Source: National Preparedness Month

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Yes I agree that September was made a month of preparedness in 2001.
Governors of states or the President may or may not use it to make a proclamation.

The fact of the matter is that this year the President proclaim a NATIONAL preparedness month. He didn't have to do that. But the fact that he did and this was stress by Q right after it was done, speaks volume especially knowing the current situation : of Military tribunal being set up since Trump Executive order in March 2018(link); we have 50,000+ indictements; where we have a bunch of FBI, CIA, DOJ, congress people & senators resigning or being fired; where we have a bunch of CEOs of big business, wall street, and Hollywood resigning or removed; where the world current economic system is imploding; where there's serious action towards a coming economic reset; where the Deep State is doing anything possible to remove Trump from power before the mid-term election; and knowing that the Deep State is not going to give up control without a fight, and etc... All of these are climaxing this fall; so to me this proclamation to get prepared by Trump and this being stressed by Q speaks volume. And its not because there's hurricane that month. Not all states have hurricanes. We are to get ready for potential attacks from the Deep State and/or a potential Economic Reset.

Also Dave Junda says his source told him that the Deep State will use an EMP attack that will make all electronics not functional. I have been hearing of this from other sources. Whether the Deep State will be successful to do this or not is still to be seen. Besides a potential EMP attack, I'm sure they have other malicious plans reserve for their little time left as the Patriots with Trump will close in with their Deep State swamp cleanup that will climax at the prosecutions of all those indictments by which will release many truths to come out to the public and contribute to more awakening among the 99%. The awakening among the people is another thing the Deep State fear.

He talks about Trump Proclamation of Preparedness starts at the @38min mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2482&v=imPvpG6asYg
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/09/18 11:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Yes I agree that September was made a month of preparedness in 2001.
Governors of states or the President may or may not use it to make a proclamation.

The fact of the matter is that this year the President proclaim a NATIONAL preparedness month. He didn't have to do that.

That's certainly NOT true. Rather:-
  • Since September 11, 2001, the US Government has taken steps to encourage all citizens to make their own survival preparations.
  • Since its inception in 2004, National Preparedness Month is observed each September in the United States of America.

::: Source: USGov National Preparedness Month website

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Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/11/18 12:27 AM

Wow, they had planned for trump 14 years in advanced!
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/12/18 10:32 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Wow, they had planned for trump 14 years in advanced!

Did you get this from me? from Post#187161 ? If so, it can be wrong. Sorry if it is. I couldn't get a confirmation from a source that this is so. I think I heard this from the "John F Kennedy Jr still alive rumor and being "R" after Q had went silent for a month or so". In the data circulating around; it was said that JFK and Trump were close buddies and made some plots. Anyway the John F Kennedy Jr. rumor was not confirmed by Q nor did he deny it. So we will know in the futur what is true or not.

Anyway, I also thought I had heard from Dr.Steve Pieczenik that the Patriots was in contact with him after 9/11. But after relistening to the Dr.Pieczenik video again (in Post#187161 ) he did not say that. He says at the 1:27 min mark that "we : the intelligence community and others help bring Trump into the forefront". Then on the 16:45 min mark Steve P. says that once they saw Trump and that he fitted the ideal profile. Also at the 21:40 mark he says " when Trump came in we knew that was the candidate we wanted to have." So to me from the above wording of Dr. Pieczenik it appears that the Patriots (intelligence community + the millitary and others) only picked Trump when he was running.

So If I understood Dr. Pieczenik; it is about 14 years ago the Patriot team or "White Hats" got formed or got active (?). And 3 years ago they approach Trump when he entered the presidential race.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/15/18 05:58 PM

Sept 12th 2018 : Executive Order on imposing certain Sanctions on the event in the Foreign Interference in a United States Election

My comment : I don't know if there's more, but I wanted to note that we are currently under at least 3 National Emergencies dealing with different threats :

#1. Dec 21st 2017 : Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption (link) -- This one involves human trafficking, organ trafficking, pedophilia, children sacrificing, etc... by which the Deep States orchestrates these crimes via the complicity of many countries, government agencies, media and mega-corp organizations.

#2. Aug 31st 2018 : Presidential Proclamation on National Preparedness Month, 2018 (link) -- Not only for potential natural disasters but it include any national unexpected threats. That would include those coming from the Deep State in retaliation of #1 Executive Order... eg: potential EMP attack, psy ops, terrorist attacks, etc...

#3. Sept 12 2018 : Executive Order on imposing certain Sanctions on the event in the Foreign Interference in a United States Election (link) -- This one is to deal with any foreign interference in the US election will be prosecuted. This include George Soros and co's tricks, illegal aliens set up to vote with false papers, social media propaganda and sensorship, etc...

Below is the latest Greg Hunter weekly report who starts by briefly talking about #1 and then elaborates on the #3 national emergencies.

I think Greg is a good journalist and does a great job bringing in the real news from week to week. And so he's one of the few who caught the Sept 12th 2018 Executive order by which the Main Steam media didn't give us one peep about it.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/18/18 03:29 PM

Trump Orders Immediate Release Of All Text Messages, Carter Page FISA Application From Russia Investigation

My comment : Yesterday, on Sept 17th a statement from the Press Secretary saying the declassification of the FISA report, FBI reports of interviews and other text messages to be fully transparent (without redaction).

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-34/

This will lead to the prosecution of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr. Also to the prosecution of Obama and Hilary who were the ones giving orders to create this phony report so to temper on the election and spy on the president elect and his team.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-1...a-investigation

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/19/18 12:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle

#2. Aug 31st 2018 : Presidential Proclamation on National Preparedness Month, 2018 (link) -- Not only for potential natural disasters but it include any national unexpected threats. That would include those coming from the Deep State in retaliation of #1 Executive Order... eg: potential EMP attack, psy ops, terrorist attacks, etc...

As pointed out by James, that is not true. Falsehood. Lie. Fake "news".
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/19/18 07:07 AM

A Vatican Whistleblower demands Pope Francis Resignation

My comment : These past weeks the RCC Church has been on God's agenda as they make the news all over the world with different judicial incidents.

A main one that is worth mentioning is Vigano 11-page testimony. He is a vatican whistleblower which demand Pope Francis resignation. The Pope instead of admitting his wrong in covering up pedophilia accused Vigano of being Satan.

This has 3 parts :
1. Steven Jones comments.
2. Vigano 11 page paper exposing Pope Francis
3. Pope Francis respond in calling the whistleblower satan.

Originally Posted By: 1. Steven Comments
The Vigano Affair

One event in particular surfaced at the start of the prayer campaign. Archbishop Vigano, who was the papal nuncio in Washington DC for former Pope Benedict, issued an 11-page paper exposing Pope Francis, calling for his resignation. This was published on August 26, 2018.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/35205/report-pope-francis-embittered-vigano-testimony-paul-bois

Quote:
In an 11-page letter published this past Sunday, the former ambassador from the Vatican to the United States said Pope Benedict XVI imposed direct sanctions on the now-disgraced D.C. Cardinal Theodore McCarrick for sexually abusing seminarians, but that Pope Francis himself lifted those sanctions upon his ascendancy in 2013.


The problem is that Cardinal McCarrick of Washington DC was proven to be a serial child molester, dating back to the first boy that he baptized many years ago. Pope Benedict XVI had removed him from office and sentenced him to a life of penance and prayer in a secluded monastery. But after Benedict resigned in 2013, Pope Francis reinstated McCarrick, elevated him to a position of “trusted counselor,” put him in charge of appointing all the bishops in America, and continued the past policy of covering up the crimes of pedophile priests.

This has surprised and angered Roman Catholics worldwide.

Here is a site that summarizes Vigano’s letter:

http://the-american-catholic.com/2018/08/28/popewatch-vigano-summary/

Quote:
Viganò said as well that Francis’ behavior regarding the McCarrick matter was “no different” than in the Chilean Church’s sex abuse scandal. Francis had appointed Bishop Juan de la Cruz Barros to the See of Osorno against the advice of the Chilean bishops, first insulted the abuse victims, then later apologized, but continued to protect the two Chilean Cardinals Errazuriz and Ezzati.

“Even in the tragic affair of McCarrick, Pope Francis’s behavior was no different,” Viganò said. “He knew from at least June 23, 2013 that McCarrick was a serial predator. Although he knew that he was a corrupt man, he covered for him to the bitter end.”


When I discovered that Vigano’s report had been published on the first day of the prayer campaign, it occurred to me that the prayer campaign was exposing the Church and bringing about the final battle between Saul and the Philistines. In other words, it appears to me that the timing of the Vigano report means that Saul is not going to win this battle. The Philistines are now God’s agents to destroy the house of Saul. They will cause Saul to fall on his sword (1 Samuel 31:4-6).

In other words, an old era is ending. Saul is dead. Long live David!

I spent a lot of time yesterday reading and listening to Catholics reporting on this scandal. These Catholic reporters and priests all hoped to reform the church, but they were alarmed by Pope Francis’ glaring cover-up policies. All of them believed this was the most serious crisis ever to hit the church.

Of course, they are probably right. The Spanish Inquisition was probably a more serious criminal venture, because it tortured multitudes of people over a period of centuries. However, open support of pedophilia is no doubt the most shocking crisis to Roman Catholics themselves.

Another report, State of the Nation, writes this:

Quote:
The Vatican is currently mired in the greatest scandal in the history of the Papacy of Rome….

One of Francis’s first proclamations to the worldwide Catholic congregation was a “zero tolerance” policy being implemented toward all pedophile priests, bishops and cardinals….

Rather than following through with his stated policy in a forthright and responsible manner, Pope Francis appears to have enabled the same criminal pattern of behavior. This is especially true where it concerned the bishops, arch-bishops and cardinals in key positions throughout the major Catholic countries.

From the first day that Francis took up residence in Vatican City, he apparently chose to become part of the problem — the priest pederasty problem — rather than a part of the solution. This pedophile priest problem is by far the most serious matter in church history, in papal history, and perhaps in the history of all religions from time immemorial.

In view of this steadily unfolding catastrophe, a gathering storm has been forming around the globe since March of 2013, while the Perfect Storm is about ready to blow right through the Vatican in 2018.

Virtually every conservative commentator on this subject has made the same observation, that the Pope more stealthily and more surreptitiously continued the very same policies of his predecessors.

How could the highest ranking prelates in the Roman Catholic institution ever permit this outrageous situation to get so terribly out of hand… … … except by purposeful design?

Likewise, the entire College of Cardinals is significantly responsible for this [ONGOING] scourge against our children. Was there not a single one to demand an immediate cessation of the rampant child sexual abuse by countless priests taking place in dioceses across the planet? Not one stepped forward to courageously confront an endemic sickness of the clergy that deeply scared, and in some cases killed, innocent children who trusted priests.


http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=103040

How this prophetic story will play out in practice is not fully clear, but God is giving us re-runs of the original biblical story. The pattern was set forth in 1 Samuel 31, and we are now seeing it fulfilled (starting) in 2018. I do not know how long it will take to complete this process, but I am convinced that this prayer campaign is the beginning of the final act.

In conjunction with this biblical story is how an Amalekite took credit for killing Saul and how David executed him for killing “the Lord’s anointed” (2 Samuel 1:16). Saul fell on his own sword, but others took credit for killing him. Who is the “Amalekite” in this case? Who are the Philistines who defeated Saul? These are events that are yet to be played out onstage.

Since the Philistines cut off Saul’s head and paraded his weapons throughout the land of the Philistines, it is clear that the Amalekite was a mercenary fighting on behalf of the Philistines. He was probably the first to come upon Saul’s body, because he was able to take Saul’s bracelet and crown for himself (2 Samuel 1:10). If others had been there first, surely they would have taken these things along with Saul’s sword.

So the Amalekite was among the carnally minded ones (Philistines) fighting Saul. But we will have to watch at a later time to see how this plays out in current events.

Prophecy from 1981: “September 2 America Begins to Die”

Years ago this prophecy was given in the old Net of Prayer when the threefold ministry essentially died on that date in 1981. The demonic forces then invaded the nation in a Broken Cross formation through San Francisco, until the Net of Prayer was reorganized in November 1981. The first prayer campaign of the Net of Prayer thus began on November 12, 1981, and this was the start of my own involvement with them. (See The Wars of the Lord.)

It occurred to me this past week that our prayer campaign against Molech would take us to midnight of September 1st and that this prophecy applies to September 2, 2018. But because of many years of successful spiritual warfare, the “America” that is dying is the Deep State’s “America.” I believe that the overthrow of Molech was the key, not only to the overthrow of Saul, but the death of the Deep State.

Watch for subsequent events to unfold in the next two months leading up to the midterm elections November 6. Our prayer campaign from November 1-6, 2001 may also apply here. It was known as “Ye Shall Surely Die” prayer campaign, and it culminated on November 5, 2001 when we saw Satan bound. The coincidence with the midterm elections in 2018 may prove to be quite significant. Be watchful.


2. 11 pages Testimony of Vigano : https://www.scribd.com/document/38704055...ncio#from_embed


3. Pope Francis compares vatican whistleblower to satan : https://www.breitbart.com/big-government...leblower-satan/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/20/18 03:06 AM

My comment : below is the negative comments towards Trump for declassifying the documents. The first is a shorter readable version whereas Praying Medic video format gives a more detailed version of the same thing with all Q comments.

The fight for transparency

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/09-2018/the-fight-for-transparency/

Sept 19th, 2018

Quote:
The tempo has increased since the start of the new Hebrew year September 10. President Trump has declassified at least 20 pages from the FISA report, because these pages had been classified only to hide the crimes of the FBI and DOJ. Such reasons for classification are illegal, according to President Obama’s 2009 Executive Order 13526. See Sec. 1.7, where Obama ordered:

Quote:
(a) In no case shall information be classified, continue to be maintained as classified, or fail to be declassified in order to:

(1) conceal violations of law, inefficiency, or administrative error;

(2) prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency;

(3) restrain competition; or

(4) prevent or delay the release of information that does not require protection in the interest of the national security.


https://h2o.law.harvard.edu/collages/44146

Yet Eric Holder, the former Attorney General under Obama says that Trump’s declassification order is “a clear abuse of power.”

https://twitter.com/EricHolder/status/1042020158489944064

I suppose that depends on the nature of the declassified material, so we will see shortly if those 20 pages should have been classified to begin with. It is more likely that certain politicians are deathly afraid that their sins will be exposed by this declassification.

Whatever happened to the transparency that Obama promised us many years ago? He was probably the least transparent of all past presidents.

Rep. Eric Swalwell tweeted about Trump, saying, “Lawless. He is absolutely lawless… Using his power to selectively release classified information is an abuse of power.”

No, Mr. Swalwell. Presidents were given that power for a reason. It is within his power to do so, and this means Trump is NOT being “lawless.” In fact, if material has been unlawfully classified in order to “conceal violations of the law” or “prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency,” then Trump would be violating the law by NOT declassifying it.

Lawlessness is when presidents write laws and then ignore them. But perhaps Trump ought to accommodate Mr. Swalwell by releasing ALL of the FISA memo. That way, he could not be accused of being "selective."

So let us wait and see what these pages tell us before we jump to conclusions.



Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/20/18 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle

Quote:
The tempo has increased since the start of the new Hebrew year September 10.

Please give supporting evidence as to why the Hebrew year starts September 10.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/22/18 07:52 PM

My comment : More about the implication of the declassifying of the FISA report. The UK and Australia who took part of this, are panicking also and are requesting that the FISA stays classified (hidden from public).

Declassifying the IG’s FISA report

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...gs-fisa-report/
Sep 21st, 2018

Quote:
On September 17, 2018 the President declassified parts of the Inspector General’s FISA report and ordered the DOJ and the FBI to release those documents unredacted to the public. This has caused panic in the Washington establishment, as many of them know that once their crimes have been exposed, they can no longer hide behind classified documents.

The Republican Party has little to lose in this regard, since there was no Russian collusion on the part of the Trump campaign. The Democratic Party, on the other hand, are shaking in their boots and demanding to keep their own Russian collusion secret. In fact, not only did Hillary Clinton and her campaign collude with the Russians, but they also colluded with the UK and other countries (Australia in particular).

All of them were involved in treasonous crimes, breaking numerous laws in the process. As Q often says, “Those who scream the loudest…” (are the ones most fearful and guilty).

Today, Trump posted the tweets below.

https://qanonposts.com/images/329cffea709c36a8ba5b86c463d3d7c44deabf6edc5c4da57b3c338e102e368f.png

https://qanonposts.com/images/bfa3f5cc2e530503463807e44111e5944b5516a684a47d22d7e4bf9c139adda8.png

So there is a short delay in releasing the documents (20 pages) in question, and Trump has asked Michael Horowitz, the Inspector General, to review these. If he thinks that some things should be redacted, Trump will go along with it. But it is clear that nothing will be redacted just for being an embarrassment to the DOJ or FBI or one of the “key allies” involved in this scandal.

From other posts and news articles, it is clear that the “key allies” are the UK and Australia. Trump says that these “key allies called to ask not to release” this information from the FISA warrant. The question is this: How do those “key allies” know what is in the secret FISA warrant? Why would they beg for secrecy, unless they were personally involved in the scandal?

Q then posted this today:

https://qanonposts.com/images/b834d83b6ea5335a2c576258414ce748973fec0cacd66936b4082c2ebe8a9b13.png

Q asks this:

Originally Posted By: Q
Ask yourself, how would ‘FOREIGN Allies’ KNOW what is within a US TOP SECRET FISA warrant?


Q then adds a quotation from Devon Nunes who stated some time ago:

Originally Posted By: D.Nunes
“NO INTELLIGENCE SHARED THROUGH THAT ‘OFFICIAL CHANNEL’ [FVEY]


Q pointed out some time ago that intelligence from the Five Eyes (FVEY) was supposed to go through official channels that were then put on record. But in regard to the secret FISA applications, nothing was done through official channels in order to cover their tracks and hide the fact that the UK and Australia were participating in this dubious plot.

Now at least two Five Eyes countries are worried that 20 unredacted pages of the FISA report will embarrass them for their participation in this plot to undermine and even overthrow President Trump. Apparently, they know that the rules were broken, along with the law itself. So Q says,

Originally Posted By: Q
Ask yourself why are [2] ‘KEY’ Allies VERY CONCERNED re DECLAS & RELEASE?


Q then reposts something from July 3, 2018….

09-21-2018-Declassifying-the-IGs-FISA-Report-Img-4.jpg

The link above reads in part:

Quote:
Papadopoulos was reportedly told by a Maltese professor named Joseph Mifsud that Russia had dirt on Hillary Clinton in the form of emails. Downer requested a meeting with Papadopoulos weeks afterward. Papadopoulos reportedly told Downer in May 2016 that he was told Russia had dirt on Clinton, but did not specify “emails.”

The conversation was reportedly passed on from Downer to Amb. Joe Hockey, who is Australia’s ambassador to the United States. Hockey reportedly passed on the conversation to the U.S. after the emails were released on July 22, 2016.

Normally, intelligence passed on from a member of the “Five Eyes” alliance — Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the U.K., and the U.S. — to another member comes through an official channel for intelligence sharing.

However, Nunes, upon reviewing the document that formally launched the FBI’s investigation, said there was no intelligence shared through that official channel, meaning that the intelligence was shared through unofficial means.

On May 31, the Wall Street Journal‘s Kimberley Strassel reported that Hockey “neither transmitted any information to the FBI nor was approached by the U.S. about the tip.”

“Rather,” she reported, “it was Mr. Downer who at some point decided to convey his information—to the U.S. Embassy in London.”


https://www.breitbart.com/big-government...impression=true

So it appears that some people will be in big trouble when these pages from the FISA report are released and their names exposed for breaking the law.

Democrats such as Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi try to give the impression that they are concerned about harming national security. In fact, they are trying to shield those within the intelligence community who have violated the law and intelligence protocol in regard to national security.

In fact, Q informed his readers about this on April 18, 2018:

09-21-2018-Declassifying-the-IGs-FISA-Report-Img-5.jpg

He says that these people were avoiding US data collection laws. “Hussein” is President Barack Hussein Obama, who led this violation of the law, along with Hillary Rodham Clinton, John Brennan of the CIA, James Clapper of National Security, and others.

The Deep State are on the defensive and are fighting for their lives. Two years ago they were on the offensive, but now they are playing defense.

The game is soon over.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/23/18 07:41 PM

Why Is The “Arch Of Baal” Being Erected In Washington D.C. During The Last Week Of September 2018?

My comment : We started to hear about this Arch of Baal since ISIS destroy the monument in 2015. I believe I reported that event here. Then some years later they had made this mock modular version that can be assemble & disassemble and were displaying it at different location on earth.

However, this time around, the timing & location is very interesting. The timing is right in the week of the feast of Tabernacle. The location is in Washington DC just before the confirming Judge Cavanaugh as "Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States on July 9, 2018, filling the vacancy left by the retirement of Anthony Kennedy". When Judge Cavanaugh will be confirm, then the republic will have a solid majority in the Supreme Court and that's when the Patriots wants to start the military tribunals process of the 52,000+ indictments on files. So naturally, the Deep State are doing all they can to stop or delay the seating of Judge Cavanaugh.

It will be interesting to watch what events will come during the Feast of Tabernacle.

The article is quite informative. I like their obvious raised questions about the timing at the conclusion. Below are only some quotes from the article.

http://unexplainedmysteriesoftheworld.co...-september-2018

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A reproduction of the infamous Arch of Palmyra will be on display in Washington D.C. from September 26th to September 30th. In ancient times, if you wanted to go to the Temple of Baal in Palmyra you had to pass through this arch, and you would also pass through this arch again on your way out. The original arch was destroyed by ISIS in 2015, but it has been reproduced, and the reproduction has been periodically displayed at important locations around the globe. It has been pointed out that an arch is a “gateway”, and many are concerned that erecting this arch may be an open invitation for the entity or entities that were originally associated with this arch. And the timing for putting this arch on display in Washington D.C. is also very curious, and I will discuss that at the conclusion of this article.

...

The organization that is putting this arch on display in D.C. later this month says that it is a “symbol of peace and resilience”…

...

We tend to think that we are vastly more “advanced” than the pagan idol worshippers of the ancient world, but is that really the case?

They killed their babies by the thousands, but we have killed our babies by the millions.

They had “free love” around the altars of Baal, but we have turned it into a permanent lifestyle.

Multitudes would gather around the altars of Baal to watch the bisexual orgies, but we have turned watching others having sex into a multi-billion dollar industry.

...

It is quite interesting that this monument to Baal will be going up during the time that the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh is being debated in Washington.

Could it be possible that those that are seeking to keep child sacrifice legal in America are seeking some supernatural help from demonic entities?

Is that the real reason why this monument is being erected at this time?

It is also important to note that this arch is going up during the Feast of Tabernacles. As I detailed in my book about Bible prophecy, the theme of the Feast of Tabernacles is God coming to dwell among men.

By putting this arch up in the most powerful city on the planet, many believe that the other side is laying out a welcome mat for the Antichrist to come and dwell among us.

We live in a very strange world, and it is getting stranger with each passing day…



Supreme Court Justice Kennedy Is Retiring, Giving Trump 2nd Supreme Court Pick

http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=186949#Post186949

June 27th, 2018

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...Without Kennedy, the court will be split between four liberal justices who were appointed by Democratic presidents and four conservatives who were named by Republicans. Trump’s nominee is likely to give the conservatives a solid majority and will face a Senate process in which Republicans hold the slimmest majority, but Democrats can’t delay confirmation.


About Brett Kavanaugh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Kavanaugh_Supreme_Court_nomination
Quote:
President Donald Trump nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh to become an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States on July 9, 2018, filling the vacancy left by the retirement of Anthony Kennedy. When nominated, Kavanaugh was a sitting judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, to which he had been appointed by George W. Bush in 2006.

Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings before the Senate Judiciary Committee began on September 4 and lasted four days, ending on September 7.[1] The hearings were interrupted numerous times by senators from the Democratic Party, who objected to the withholding of documents from Kavanaugh's time as a White House attorney during the George W. Bush administration.[2] The hearings were also interrupted by a number of protesters, at least 227 of whom were arrested.[3]

During the confirmation process, Kavanaugh was accused of sexually assaulting Christine Blasey Ford, currently a professor in clinical psychology at Palo Alto University, while they were both in high school. The Senate Judiciary Committee had been scheduled to vote on the confirmation on September 20[4] to determine whether the nomination will go to the full Senate for a vote.[4] In response to the sexual assault allegations, the White House said it is not withdrawing its nomination.[5] On September 17, it was announced that the nomination would not proceed until the Committee has interviewed both Professor Ford and Judge Kavanaugh.[6]
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/25/18 12:13 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle

Quote:
The tempo has increased since the start of the new Hebrew year September 10.

Please give supporting evidence as to why the Hebrew year starts September 10.
But then why worry about details.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/28/18 06:38 PM

My comment: Finally, the first gold-backed crypto-currency attempt.

Gold-Based Monetary System To Bring Price Stability To Crypto
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-28/gold-based-monetary-system-bring-price-stability-crypto
Sept 28, 2018

Quote:
...The Kinesis team decided to create its own “efficient, secure and fair monetary system” based on two of the most stable commodities in the world — gold and silver.

“There is [approximately] $15 trillion in gold traded every year, creating exceptional but untapped potential for investment and exchange if gold can be remonetized. Adding a yield to this exchange multiplies this potential exponentially,” says Thomas Coughlin, CEO of Kinesis.

Kinesis offers digital currencies based 1:1 on allocated physical gold (KAU coins) and silver (KAG coins). When users purchase Kinesis currencies, they actually purchase real metal. The ownership of the gold is digitized with blockchain technology, which allows the user to hold or transfer currency from their Kinesis e-Wallet.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/28/18 06:43 PM

Trump administration cancels FDA's contract to buy aborted baby parts

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ted-baby-parts/
Sept 26, 2018
Quote:
Most you know that the abortion industry makes money on selling baby parts. The Trump administration is taking steps to stop encouraging such a practice.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/09/25/trump-administration-kills-contract-to-buy-fetal-tissue/

Quote:
In 2015, the pro-life Center for Medical Progress released a series of hidden-camera videos in which officials and others in the abortion industry appeared to discuss selling aborted baby body parts.

The videos led to a House select committee investigation, and renewed calls for Congress to defund Planned Parenthood.

The most recent spending bill passed by Congress maintained spending for Planned Parenthood, however.

The statement Monday said the Department of Health and Human Services “has initiated a comprehensive review of all research involving fetal tissue to ensure consistency with statutes and regulations governing such research, and to ensure the adequacy of procedures and oversight of this research in light of the serious regulatory, moral, and ethical considerations involved.”


Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/28/18 06:58 PM

My comment : A good 30 min interview and update of Robert David Steele progress against pedophilia, Social Media, and Election Mafia. Mr. Steele is a former CIA agent. Currently one hat he's wearing is the chief counsel of the International Tribunal for Natural Justice (see Post #186806).

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/28/18 07:11 PM

New comment : Here's an article I've mist past March. We had talked about the spread of Wahhabism religion some 2 or 3 years ago on this thread... which is an extreme form of Islamic practice mainly in Saudi Arabia and spread by the ISSIS terrorist group all over the world to get recruits.

So last March the Saudi crown prince confirms that this spread of radical Islam was financed and done under the request of the West.

Spread of Wahhabism was done at request of West during Cold War – Saudi crown prince

Mar 28, 2018
Quote:
The Saudi-funded spread of Wahhabism began as a result of Western countries asking Riyadh to help counter the Soviet Union during the Cold War, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told the Washington Post.
Speaking to the paper, bin Salman said that Saudi Arabia's Western allies urged the country to invest in mosques and madrassas overseas during the Cold War, in an effort to prevent encroachment in Muslim countries by the Soviet Union.

He added that successive Saudi governments had lost track of that effort, saying "we have to get it all back." Bin Salman also said that funding now comes mostly from Saudi-based "foundations," rather than from the government.
...
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/28/18 07:19 PM


John Kerry violates the Logan Act

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...-the-logan-act/

Sep 15, 2018

Quote:
Ever since President Obama decided to openly ignore immigration laws passed by congress (and voted in by both parties!), a new precedent has been set. Now former Secretary of State John Kerry is openly violating the Logan Act, which forbids American citizens from negotiating with foreign leaders without working through the State Department.

https://nypost.com/2018/09/12/kerry-admits-to-meeting-iranian-officials-over-nuclear-deal/

Whoever heard of an ex-government official telling foreign leaders to wait it out until they can oust a sitting president? It seems to me that this not only violates the Logan Act, but is also a case of sedition and possibly treason.

Here is a picture of one of Kerry's body doubles. He looks similar to Kerry, but it seems clear to me that this is someone else. (All of the presidents and many high-ranking cabinet members have body doubles. This fact came out in the news in the aftermath of the attempted assassination of President Reagan in the early 1980's.)

https://nypost.com/2018/05/07/john-kerry-is-clearly-violating-the-logan-act/

Many are criticizing the Attorney General for ignoring these blatant lawbreakers. But I think AG Jeff Sessions is planning to take down John Kerry on much more serious charges in the near future. He is building cases against most of ex-President Obama’s cabinet, all of whom are now being implicated in the FISA conspiracy.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/28/18 07:34 PM

My comment : Here's a very good report of Trump's Team Semi-annual audit of several of US government Agencies or Department. They have recovered several millions stolen from workers and issued many arrests.

OIG Audit Results That You Never Knew Occurred
https://americandigitalnews.com/2018/08/31/oig-semiannual-audit-results/#.W65VUWhKiyI

Aug 31st, 2018

Quote:
...
In the first audit, the work by the Office of Investigations resulted in 33 arrests, 35 indictments, and 21 convictions. What else was in the Report the IG handed to Congress?

...
Some of our more significant results for the period are described below:

-Independent public accounting firms, working under contracts with and supervised by of our Office of Audit, issued unmodified opinions on the Department of the Treasury’s (Treasury) consolidated financial statements and the Gulf Coast Ecosystem Restoration Council’s financial statements for fiscal year 2017. &#61623;
-Treasury’s Office of Budget and Travel potentially violated the Antideficiency Act by disbursing more than the Departmental Office’s available fund balance with Treasury; incurring obligations and expenditures prior to the respective reimbursable agreements being signed; and using fiscal year 2016 funds for fiscal year 2015 costs related to reimbursable services provided to Departmental Office customers. &#61623;
-Two funds in Arkansas’ Seed and Angel Capital Network venture capital program, New Road Ventures, LLC and Virtual Incubation Company Investor Network, misused a total of $130,668 of State Small Business Credit Initiative funds on four investments because the investments were in violation of conflict of interest rules in place at the time they were made. &#61623;
-Our joint investigation with Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigations, revealed a repeat offender involved in a sovereign citizen scheme who opened a bank account and attempted to deposit a fictitious $300 million “Indemnity Bond” purported to be a valid instrument issued by Treasury. The suspect was indicted for Fictitious Obligations. &#61623;
-Our investigation revealed the theft of $37 million in Treasury checks from the U.S. Postal Service. The checks were stolen by contract employees, hired by the post office. To date, the investigation has identified 24 subjects. Two arrest warrants and a search warrant have been executed. &#61623;
-Our investigation determined that a former Office of the Comptroller of the Currency Bank Examiner and two co-conspirators engaged in a scheme to defraud a movie financing company. The Vice President of a bank, a former Bank Examiner, used his position to assist two subjects with stealing $2.5 million from the company by depositing funds into escrow accounts. The three subjects were sentenced from 30 weekends to 30 months in prison, 12 to 36 months of probation, and to a total of more than $1.5 million in restitution, forfeiture, and fines.
...
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/29/18 12:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Elle

Quote:
The tempo has increased since the start of the new Hebrew year September 10.

Please give supporting evidence as to why the Hebrew year starts September 10.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/29/18 05:24 AM

Justifying Kavanaugh

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/09-2018/justifying-kavanaugh/
Sept 28, 2018

Quote:
Every year we watch the Derbe, Preakness, and Belmont Stakes to see if a horse wins the Triple Crown.

This year we saw a horse named Justify win the Triple Crown. On May 5 he won the 144th Derbe. On May 19 he won the Preakness. On June 9 he won the Belmont. Together, he won the Triple Crown.

The next day, June 10, was the 40th day of the (Emmett) Flood since May 2nd.

Today is the 147th day (inclusive) from the beginning of the race cycle on May 5, 2018. The number 147 represents three Jubilee cycles (147 years).

When Justify won the Triple Crown, we understood that Justify had set a prophetic pattern that suggested soon-coming justice. Now that Kavanaugh’s nomination has been sent to the full Senate on the 147th day, it appears that this prophetic sign has taken the next step.

In the background, too, is Kavanaugh’s friend, Mark Judge, who denies the Ford allegations but is willing to testify in a closed session.

This is the week of Tabernacles, where the people used to read the book of Deuteronomy. Today is the 5th day of the feast, correlating to the 5th speech of Moses in Deuteronomy. The opening verses of that speech are found in Deuteronomy 16:18-20,

18 You shall appoint for yourselves judges and officers in all your towns which the Lord your God is giving you, according to your tribes, and they shall judge the people with righteous judgment. 19 You shall not distort justice; you shall not be partial, and you shall not take a bribe, for a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise and perverts the words of the righteous. 20 Justice, and only justice, you shall pursue, that you may live and possess the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

Today’s vote for Kavanaugh appears to connect with this verse on precisely the right day.

Keep in mind also that judges are not politicians, at least not here in America. In fact, when the governmental agency brings charges against someone, the judge refers to the prosecutor as “the government.” Judges administer the law, and the government is the enforcer of the law.

In the Kingdom of God, the law specifies and defines the rights of God and men. The government is instituted to enforce and defend those rights—not to dispense rights.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 09/29/18 06:13 PM

My comment : Ben's weekly report is in harmony with Q.

Yesterday, Q told us that Brett Kavanaugh is confirm as a supreme court judge but this will be made public this Monday. The Deep State tried to stop this but failed. Now that Judge Kavanaugh is seated, the prosecution of the indictments can begin.

Many other sources agree with Fulford's sources below that the Deep state has given many threats if the prosecution will move forward. It will; so I hope you are prepared.

I have included the video of Judge Kavanaugh inquisition where the difference between civil and military law is discuss. Of course Kavanaugh is well aware of these differences and even said that the US has been under Martial Law since 911.

Get ready to see lots of action in October.

Khazarian mafia seeks Chinese protection as military tribunals loom

By Benjamin Fulford, White Dragon Society,
September 24, 2018
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The satan-worshipping Khazarian mafia is in a frenzy of fear as military tribunals loom. As a result, they are offering the world (as if it were theirs to give) to China in exchange for protection, according to Gnostic Illuminati and Asian secret society sources. In addition to this, they are threatening to unleash pandemics, blow up the Yellowstone Caldera, set off a massive EMP attack, and cause other mayhem in a futile effort (as these attempts will be neutralized) to blackmail themselves out of the reach of long-delayed justice. Also, they are carrying out a foolish and widely derided smear campaign to derail the appointment of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court.

Pentagon sources say they used “the threat of 9/11 declassification, which may soon happen, to force George Bush Jr. to publicly back Kavanaugh, whose confirmation would unleash military tribunals.” Remember, Kavanaugh said during his confirmation hearings that the U.S. has been under martial law since shortly after 9/11 and as a result, military tribunals could try, and even sentence to death, civilians guilty of treason.

In addition to this, the sources say that “because of the interference in the 2016 U.S. election by the Jewish mafia, which supported Hillary Clinton, Trump may use FISA declassification leverage to force the UK and Australia to purge Zionists and Israeli dual-citizens from positions of influence.”

The rogue state of Israel, for its part, has been trying to seek Russian and Chinese protection as it loses control of the United States. However, this is backfiring, big time. Here is the U.S. military’s analysis of where these efforts are leading.

First, in reaction to the recent Israeli stunt to fool Syria into shooting down a Russian plane in yet another desperate attempt to start World War 3, “An angry [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and the Russian Orthodox Church may have declared holy war on the anti-goy Jewish faction, and may impose a no-fly zone on Israel until it returns the Golan to Syria, lifts the siege of Gaza, denuclearizes, and returns the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and all stolen lands to Palestine and Lebanon.”


Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/02/18 05:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle

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The tempo has increased since the start of the new Hebrew year September 10.

Please give supporting evidence as to why the Hebrew year starts September 10.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/02/18 10:25 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle

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The tempo has increased since the start of the new Hebrew year September 10.

Please give supporting evidence as to why the Hebrew year starts September 10.

I don't know if you are asking about the year starting in the fall instead of the spring or the year 2018 starts on Sept 10. If it is the later, I have posted a reply meant for you that shows the events falling on the Feast of Tabernacle watch dates does support a Sept 10 for Rosh Hashanah. I could list other events that I haven't posted here to give additional support.

Events on Feast watch dates are initiated by God...not by man. That's what gives us the indication of when Feast dates falls on as all the Jewish calendars are off by a couple of days from each other.

I know you weren't aware of the year starting in the fall when we first discussed about this in the discussion "Does the Feast are still binding".

Have you taken some time to investigate if what I said is true yet? I had said then, that God created the world on the same pattern of the day. A day starts at sundown. If the beginning of a year follow the same pattern; then it should starts when the daylight starts to be less than dark time. As you know this happens at the beginning of fall. So to me I have no problem seeing that Rosh Hashanah as being the beginning of the year and the time of Creation as the Jewish culture has acknowledge this for thousands of years.

Rosh Hashanah literally means "head of the year". It's the Jewish New Year. This year it is on September 10.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosh_Hashanah

Then for some reason God gave another "start of year" for the Israelites after the Exodus with Moses that started on the month of Abib (sometime in the early spring). So we have these two Jewish calendars that starts the year at different times.

We see this "two calendars" pattern also with the Jubilee Calendar. There's the Creation Jubilee Calendar from Adam that counts every 49 years cycles. But then when Israel failed to enter the promise land on the appointed time of the 50th Jubilee cycle from Adam; God made them wonder in the wilderness 38 years until ever single one of them (besides Caleb and Joshua who believed God's word and wanted to enter upon God's first command) perish. So the next generation entered the promised land 38 years later -- not 49 years later. So they entered (49years - 38 years =) 11 years off from the Creation Jubilee calendar.

So when they entered the promised land God commanded them to start counting their Jubilee cycle from that year which was 11 years off from the Creation Jubilee denoting that the Church Jubilee calendar was off from God's Creation Jubilee calendar. Perhaps showing in the physical time realm that the church are "off sync" from God because of lack of faith.

So again we have 2 different Jewish Jubilee calendars. God uses both of these as He uses both of the calendars starting the years at different months.

Then there's many more other calendars that came along further down in history that God also uses to give prophetic insight to His people.

So this shows that God is not limited by one calendar especially to gives signs to His People; but yet I believe that the year starting on Rosh Hashannah and His creation Jubilee Calendar from Adam are the most important ones when it comes to major prophetic fulfillment.

I do believe that all the "off set calendars" will disappear with time as His Church will approach more to spiritual maturity that this will be manifested also in the physical time realm as being more in sync with God original calendars. We see this development as you study time and work to do a timeline from Adam. That's when you can see that after the Babylonian captivity God did correct the Israelite Jubilee Calendar by 4 years. So now we are no longer 11 years off the Creation Jubilee calendar but 7 years -- thus in sync with the land rest cycle that happens every 7 years. And I wouldn't be surprise to see the last 7 years corrected at the first resurrection.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/03/18 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Elle

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The tempo has increased since the start of the new Hebrew year September 10.

Please give supporting evidence as to why the Hebrew year starts September 10.

I don't know if you are asking about the year starting in the fall instead of the spring or the year 2018 starts on Sept 10.
Elle, why do you make things so complicated.
You had quoted, "The tempo has increased since the start of the new Hebrew year September 10."
Why would you not think that I am asking about the year starting on Sept 10????

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If it is the later, I have posted a reply meant for you that shows the events falling on the Feast of Tabernacle watch dates does support a Sept 10 for Rosh Hashanah.
Elle, isn't that backwards?
You pick a random date, look for events that support that date, and then say that confirms it? Really?

Tell me why the new Hebrew year starts September 10. Not what events support that it starts then.

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Have you taken some time to investigate if what I said is true yet? I had said then, that God created the world on the same pattern of the day. A day starts at sundown. If the beginning of a year follow the same pattern; then it should starts when the daylight starts to be less than dark time. As you know this happens at the beginning of fall.
I don't recall you saying that before, but maybe it's been awhile. Why does a year follow the same pattern? For what reason, what evidence?

However, that's not true what you just said. Daylight starts to be less at the summer's solstice. Less light than darkness has nothing to do with sundown and a day ending/starting. You're mismatching and mangling things.


So you said it starts in the fall. But please give Biblical evidence that it starts September 10.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/04/18 10:27 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
Please give supporting evidence as to why the Hebrew year starts September 10.

Kland I think it's long past due to agree to disagree about this topic. Is it 2 or 3 years you've been posing this type of question? I have tried to answer in much detail close to a dozen time in different ways to express my understanding of this.

For someone that doesn't believe that the feasts are still binding (as according to that discussion but maybe you have changed your position since) why do you even ask that question? So up to now, I get from your respond that you are not really interested to know. Your premise is against this type of thinking from the start.

So I will ignore any further post from you on this subject because I do not perceive you really want to know; but only is trying to find fault in it.



To respond in a brief summary to others that are interested to know -- the Lord told us in many verse to watch-observe carefully the [mow'ed]. Mow'ed is translated as congregation (150x), feast (23x), season (13x), appointed (12x), time (12x), ... It is very interesting to me to note that mow'ed is translated 150 times as congregation far beyond any other words. Probably its because the congregation needed to present themselves at these appointed times in front of the tent of meeting (the Tabernacle).

In the Old covenant way they watch carefully the ripening of the barley crop and the sighting of the first crescent that signal the start of the Feast calendar time and that signal when the congregation were to present themselves before the tent of meeting in front of God.

In the New covenant way; my understanding is this takes a spiritual form that we still present ourselves before God but by watching carefully the events God makes happens on the Feast dates to receive communication and sanctification from Him.

In the Bible there's lots of evidence that on the Feast dates was when major events happens. God has always kept making things happens on Feast watch dates in the Old Testament. So this always been the spiritual meaning of watching carefully the Feasts or appointed times.

EVENTS is the major determination when the Feasts watch dates starts for a season. For it is only God that can make events fall on certain dates because He is Sovereign "who worketh all things after the counsel of His will" (Eph 1:11).

Most of the times, these events are signs that God communicates to His people to let them know what He will be doing before He does it, to prepare us to participate in it by being His Amen people. Then other times, events can mark some minor prophetic fulfillment that increasingly progress. For example we see this with the fall of Mystery Babylon. The fall of Mystery Babylon actually started to be manifested on earth at the 9-11 events; but yet the spiritual warfare was engage some 10 years(?) beforehand by those that could hear God's voice and understood His signs given.

Then from my last post I wrote; that God is not limited by any calendar to give His revelation(signs) to His people. Today we have many more calendars compare to the time of the Exodus when the Feasts were first known verbally to His Church corporately.

So since today we have more Jewish calendars that God brought forth as history unfolded for He is Sovereign and these are a product of His work; this means God can use any different Jewish Feast calendar to indicate when the spring and Fall Feasts starts from year to year : Hillel I, Hillel II, Karaite crop & moon sighting, and whatever other Jewish calendars that exist. So we do not have any set formula in stone that God always use the same from year to year today.

Then you need the insight of the Holy Spirit to know how to read the events that occurs on feast watch dates that does follow the sequence of past revelation and biblical patterns. So the knowledge of past revelation is also necessary to see the biblical pattern unfold that God uses which denotes where we are in time prophetically and what God is currently addressing to build His Kingdom.

It's very important to note that all these events is God's work which increasingly contribute towards the building of His Kingdom. So no matter how negative they may appear, all these things work together for good.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/05/18 04:14 PM

My comment: Below is a good summary of Christine Ford testifying against Judge Kavanaugh last week. Indeed her testimony has lost credibility. What I've heard recently is now they let go of Ford testimony and switch to discredit Kavanaugh because he drank. That's silly.

Also she's a second generation CIA. I don't know if she's a CIA herself like her father and brother; but she is employed as a professor at Stanford University where she is a mentor for the CIA Internship program there. So she has deep CIA connection.

The Ford testimony falls apart
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/10-2018/the-ford-testimony-falls-apart/
Oct 04, 2018

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Last week Dr. Christine Blasey Ford testified against Judge Kavanaugh in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee. She said she was “100 percent sure” that Kavanaugh assaulted her 36 years ago as a teenager. Kavanaugh said he was “100 percent sure” that he did not assault her.

Ford looked credible while testifying, but she claimed she could not remember where the event took place, how she got there, or even who gave her a ride home after the alleged assault. Kavanaugh, on the other hand, had a journal to show where he was that entire year. It showed that he was out of town most of the summer. But since Ford could not pinpoint the precise date, there was no way that Kavanaugh’s notes could be compared with her testimony.

When I first heard that she was a psychologist professor at Stanford, and that she had taken a lie detector test, my first impression was that she was already well trained in how to fool a lie detector test. Her long-time boyfriend from the 1990’s wrote a letter to congress showing how she had given advice and instruction to someone else about how to pass a polygraph test.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/02/chri...end-polygraphs/

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In a sworn statement provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee, a man who claims to be an ex-boyfriend of Christine Blasey Ford says that he personally witnessed Ford coach a friend on how to take a polygraph exam. If true, it would mean Ford provided false testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee last week when she claimed she had never had any discussions with anyone about how to take a polygraph.


More than that, Dr. Steve Pieczenik, a trained psychiatrist who worked for the CIA for many years, said that Dr Ford was a “second-generation CIA agent.” Other reports say that she was actually a third-generation CIA agent. Further, as a psychology professor at Stanford, she was training college kids to be potential CIA agents.

When I first heard about her polygraph test, it struck me that as a trained psychologist, she would know how to hypnotize herself to pass a polygraph test, and this would also affect her testimony before congress. Then I read that she actually wrote a paper in 2008 on this very topic!

http://thefederalist.com/2018/10/01/kava...rieve-memories/

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The study by Ford and her co-authors also used “self-hypnosis” to help treat their randomized sample of patients.

“Participants also were taught self-hypnosis to use outside the group for relaxation and affect regulation (as described in H. Spiegel & Spiegel, 2004),” the researchers explained. “The group’s experiences using hypnosis were the basis for discussion in the middle of the group sessions….”

“Remember that all hypnosis is really self-hypnosis,” the authors of the referenced 2004 text on hypnotism wrote. “[T]herefore, therapists are only tapping into their patients’ natural ability to enter trance state.”


See also:

https://twitter.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1046842589020925952

In addition to this, Q asked us to research the former FBI agent who actually administered the polygraph test to Dr. Ford. How many times did he administer the test until she actually passed it? What questions were asked? (He only asked two questions, according to his own testimony, and neither question actually mentioned Kavanaugh.)

The more information that comes out on Dr. Ford’s background, the less credible she is, in spite of the fact that virtually all the Democrats on the committee fawned over her and gave her as much credibility as they could muster with the help of the mainstream media.

The bottom line, however, is that she often contradicted herself, such as when she talked about how many people were in the room. Was it 4 or was it just 2? Furthermore, not one other person has corroborated her testimony, even though she cited them as witnesses. They all say the attack did not happen or that they knew nothing about such an incident.

However, her testimony has now set a terrible precedent for future nominations to the Supreme Court. The character of such nominees can be questioned on the grounds of their drinking or carousing during their high school years when they were yet young and foolish, with no regard to the fact that perhaps they actually grew up and settled down in a career. How many people would want to be judged today for what they did at the age of 17?

Secondly, nominees can now be attacked by people who have no evidence and no one to back up their stories just on the basis of their word alone. The Democrats cared nothing about the dozens of women who testified credibly against Bill Clinton. Those who decry Kavanaugh for “attempted assault” still laud Bill Clinton and refuse to believe those women that he actually raped.

If the Democrats ever return to power in Washington, it would be interesting to see how the Republicans would treat their nominee for the Supreme Court. The door has been opened and the precedent has been set, and it is doubtful if anyone would survive the onslaught.

I do not think that Washington will ever be the same. But then, I believe that the country has already turned a major corner, and if the Democratic Party wishes to have any influence in politics, it will have to change drastically. The silent majority is no longer silent. There is a huge reaction taking place against the Babylonian death culture and political corruption that has alarmed and irritated so many people in recent decades.

This is a revolution, and it coincides with prophetic history. I see these events in the light of prophetic timing. That is what gives current events their significance. This is not a temporary blip in the ongoing rule of Mystery Babylon. This is the end of an age and the beginning of the Kingdom. I assume, of course, that the Spirit of God will soon be poured out, as prophesied. Without that outpouring, this revolution would indeed be a temporary setback in the long-term degeneration of world morality and culture. But I am confident that this is just the beginning of a thousand-year Sabbath rest for the earth, wherein the world will be set free from the oppression of Babylonian Satanists and will learn about the love of God.


Helpful links to understand Dr. Christine Blasey Ford
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ne-blasey-ford/
Oct 04, 2018

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Here is some history of Dr. Ford’s family.

http://cosmicconvergence.org/?p=27454

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PAST POSITION(s) – Her father Ralph G. Blasey Jr.—a proven CIA operative who, from June-1962 to January-1974, was the Vice President of National Savings and Trust of Washington, D.C.—a CIA black budget bank best known for being 100 paces from the White House, and whom, in 1998, was taken over by SunTrust Bank—whose majority share owner is the CIA-linked investment fund BlackRock. (NOTE – Blackrock Secret contracted worth $100s Billions.)

The main CIA operative involved in this war, and whom Ralph G. Blasey Jr. reported to, was Nicholas Deak (LINK)—a longtime OSS and CIA operative, both during and after World War II, who ran the CIA’s main BLACK BUDGET OPERATIONS under the direct command of the feared CIA Counterintelligence Chief James Jesus Angleton.


See also:

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=104988

Here is a link to Stanford’s CIA Undergraduate Internship Program, which Dr. Ford mentors:

https://haas.stanford.edu/students/cardinal-careers/fellowships/cia-undergraduate-internship-program

Another strange “coincidence” is that Christine Ford’s parents lost a foreclosure case in 1996, where Brett Kavanaugh’s mother was the presiding judge. Some suggest a possible revenge motive for Dr. Ford’s accusations against Brett Kavanaugh.

https://archive.fo/69gvf

Further, when Ford first went public with her accusations, suddenly her high school yearbook was scrubbed from the internet. Some people had already downloaded it, and it showed some pretty wild parties at her school with her involved.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201...d_blogspot.html

Who would have the power to remove that yearbook from the internet? I know that no one would allow me to delete my high school yearbook. Was the CIA involved in this? It sounds suspicious.

All in all, there is a lot more background to this story than is being reported by the mainstream media. There are enough coincidences and suspicious activities to suspect that Dr. Ford is not as credible as Chuck Schumer says.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/05/18 04:37 PM

My comment: The members and the clergy of the Catholic Church are losing faith on Pope Francis and the Vatican because they're covering up the pedophiles. The words issued by a group of cleargy is pretty strong stating in an official declaration "We are a group of clergy within the Roman Catholic Church who in good conscience are unable to associate any longer with the criminal, anti-Christian actions of the Vatican and the Papacy."

The second article below says 2 to 1 American Catholics gives the Popes thumbs down.

We are seeing the fall of the RCC with Mystery Babylon.

The continuing crisis in the Roman church
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...e-roman-church/
Oct 02, 2018

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The pedophilia crisis in the Roman church (and other churches as well) is not being resolved. It is only getting worse. I would be surprised if Pope Francis actually resolves this, because the only resolution is repentance, and the church has been very reluctant to repent. Popes normally blame “individuals” within the church, but they feel like they cannot place blame on the church itself without admitting that it is fallible and corrupt.

However, Catholics themselves are increasingly disturbed about the many reports of pedophilia, and this is now coming to a head.

http://itccs.org/2018/09/23/dissident-ca...le-cult-emerge/

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NOT IN OUR NAME

A Legal and Moral Declaration and Pledge of Non-Cooperation issued by Concerned Roman Catholic Clergy

Issued on Sunday, September 23, 2018

We are a group of clergy within the Roman Catholic Church who in good conscience are unable to associate any longer with the criminal, anti-Christian actions of the Vatican and the Papacy. We refer to the massive cover up of violent crimes against children now being perpetrated as a matter of policy by the church hierarchy: crimes in which every Catholic is expected to collude.

The growing exposure in the world media of a massive network in our church of child trafficking, rape, torture and murder, and the direct implication of the Pope and senior Cardinals and Bishops in this network, compels every one of us to make a choice. For by our daily association with the Church of Rome we are accomplices in its crimes, under both the laws of God and Man. No Papal statute or command can justify or absolve such a criminal and sinful association. Whether Pope or Priest, we must all face and answer to God for our actions, or our inaction. And we must also answer to the Law....


The Roman church is facing a new “Protestant” movement, where Catholics themselves are protesting church corruption. Such protests undermine the idea that the popes are infallible and are immune from prosecution from God and His Law.

This new Protestant movement again is based on the belief that Catholics have the right to disagree with the Pope and Vatican policy—and to force the Pope to submit to the will of God as demanded by the people. This goes against all tradition, which has demanded that the people submit to the popes. It was not for the people to decide what was right or wrong, but to submit blindly to the church as an institution.

This was the chief characteristic of the spirit of King Saul, which has dominated the church age until now. It is the denominational spirit, brought about when men demanded to be ruled by men, rather than by God (1 Samuel 8:7). But this is fast changing, and it appears that Catholics themselves are finally waking up to the truth that leaders (including popes) are stewards, not owners of God’s throne.

Israel set the prophetic precedent long ago in the days of Samuel, and so the church too has had to fulfill the same pattern, not for just 40 years of Saul’s reign, but 40 Jubilee cycles of the reign of the church. By not understanding the prophetic pattern of Saul’s reign, most Christians have been blinded to this problem.

The first Protestant Reformation in the 1500’s drew attention to this, but now we are seeing Part 2 play out in the world. This time around we will see a greater Protestant Reformation, because we completed the 40 Jubilees of Saul’s reign in 1993. The year 1993 began to transfer authority from the church to the overcomers, and from Pentecost to Tabernacles. It has taken 25 years, only because the beast systems did not complete their time of rule until 2017. God’s intent was to take them all down at the same time in order to set the earth free from its slavery to corruption.

Another indicator is seen in the news from Poland, the staunchest Catholic country in Europe. In spite of the government’s attempt to support the Vatican at all costs, the people themselves are protesting at the box office.

https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/...land#gs.8cvk54Q

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(Bloomberg) -- A Polish feature film about the abuses by clergy of the Roman Catholic church is setting attendance records at the country’s box office.

‘Kler’ -- named after the Polish word for clergy -- attracted over 935,000 viewers last weekend, the country’s best opening three days in 30 years, according to the Association of Polish Filmmakers. The movie, which explores the themes of child abuse, romantic liaisons, corruption, greed and alcoholism by clerics, has been harshly criticized by Poland’s conservative government with close links to the church.


We look forward to the day when the house of Saul will see the light and will submit to the house of David. That way, we may all be blessed in the Kingdom.


Pope Francis' dwindling popularity in America
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ity-in-america/
Oct 03, 2018
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A revolution is brewing among Catholics.

http://www.pewforum.org/2018/10/02/confidence-in-pope-francis-down-sharply-in-u-s/

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Confidence in Pope Francis Down Sharply in U.S.

By a two-to-one margin, American Catholics now give Francis negative marks for his handling of the sex abuse scandal
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/05/18 04:41 PM

The nation’s top voting machine maker admits rigging


https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...admits-rigging/
Oct 03, 2018
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Q has been promising to enforce the integrity of the coming Midterm election. Perhaps this exposure is evidence of this. Certainly, they would hardly admit rigging the system without also promising not to do it again. Otherwise, someone high up could be sent to prison forever.

This rigging was probably the reason why most people thought Hillary would win in 2016. They did not know that Trump's backers already knew this and had taken steps to stop the rigging. That changed everything!

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/artic...-sold-to-states

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The nation's top voting machine maker has admitted in a letter to a federal lawmaker that the company installed remote-access software on election-management systems it sold over a period of six years, raising questions about the security of those systems and the integrity of elections that were conducted with them.

In a letter sent to Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) in April and obtained recently by Motherboard, Election Systems and Software acknowledged that it had "provided pcAnywhere remote connection software … to a small number of customers between 2000 and 2006," which was installed on the election-management system ES&S sold them.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/05/18 04:47 PM

New NAFTA agreement

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/10-2018/new-nafta-agreement/
Oct 02, 2018
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The big trade agreements really began in 1994 in the wake of our original prayer campaign called the Jubilee Prayer Campaign (November 1993). We understood at the time that the GATT Treaty, which was the precursor to the World Trade Organization, along with NAFTA, were going to bring the West into bankruptcy, and that this would set up the West for the fall of Mystery Babylon.

This happened, as expected, seen especially in the banking collapse of 2008, which was 15 years after our prayer campaign in 1993. Now, ten years later, in 2018, we are seeing the echo of 2008. Both the 15-year cycle as well as the 10-year cycle reflect the so-called “Hezekiah Factor.”

Past presidents complained about NAFTA but did nothing about it. President Trump, on the other hand, promised to scrap NAFTA or renegotiate the terms. He came to an agreement with Mexico a few months ago, and finally came to an agreement with Canada a few minutes before his stated deadline, October 1, 2018.

October 1 was also the end of the past Prophetic Year.

https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/...ions#gs.RLJCAMo

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(Bloomberg) -- President Donald Trump’s new trade deal to replace Nafta lets him boast that he achieved a campaign promise and claim vindication for his hard-line negotiating tactics -- just in time for the November midterm elections….

“I have long contended that Nafta was perhaps the worst trade deal ever made,” Trump said at a victory speech in the White House Rose Garden on Monday. “Throughout the campaign I promised to renegotiate Nafta and today we have kept that promise.”
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/06/18 05:56 PM

My comment : Oct 3rd on 2:18 EST President Trump tested the National Wireless Emergency Alert system by sending all the US citizen "THIS IS A TEST....no action required" message on their cells. Greg Hunter weekly report on Oct 5th covers this and drives many points that the USA are under several National Emergency. Also the country is under Marshal law since 9-11.

Greg Hunter Weekly wrap up 05-10-18: National Alert System

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/06/18 06:07 PM

My comment : Dave from X22-Report reports that Powell of the Fed Reserve has been increasing interest rates gradually and tells us he will continue to do so. This is a catalyse to crash the market. Lagarde from the BIS says that the US is going to destabilize the world economy and to stop. It appears that Powell is with Trump & Patriots Team and are aiming to destroy the current economy system run by Mystery Babylon's Elite Bankers.

Panic, Fear, The IMF Sends Warning, US Destabilizing The World

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/08/18 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: kland
Please give supporting evidence as to why the Hebrew year starts September 10.

Kland I think it's long past due to agree to disagree about this topic. Is it 2 or 3 years you've been posing this type of question? I have tried to answer in much detail close to a dozen time in different ways to express my understanding of this.
Elle, we can't agree to disagree if you don't even give anything to disagree with. 2 or 3 years and still no answer?! Just say where in the Bible does it support that the Hebrew year starts September 10. Is that too hard of a request for you?

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For someone that doesn't believe that the feasts are still binding (as according to that discussion but maybe you have changed your position since) why do you even ask that question? So up to now, I get from your respond that you are not really interested to know. Your premise is against this type of thinking from the start.
Kind of hard to be against it if you don't give it. But is that your real reason, to not give the reason because you know I'll disagree with it? So you avoid the question?

Elle, it was a simple question. It 'should' be a simple answer. But you don't give it. So either the above reason, or?

Elle, a possible response to my question is:
'I really don't know'

Is it that hard for you to admit you don't know where there is Bible support that the Hebrew year starts September 10?
Posted By: Green Cochoa

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/09/18 12:35 AM

kland,

Elle seems correct on this one, unless, of course, you wish to argue with the Jews who have been keeping records and following their calendar for centuries. Their calendar for September this year seems to begin their new year holiday on Sunday, September 9, with the holiday continuing through Wednesday, September 12. At least, my Hebrew classes were affected by all these holidays--no classes on those days (a number of the professors are Jews and observe the Jewish holidays).




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Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/10/18 01:25 AM

kland: Please give supporting evidence as to why the Hebrew year starts September 10.

Green: Jews keep it then.

Ah. I can see why you think that answers the/a question. But not really answering my question. Perhaps I need to rephrase it:

Please give supporting evidence as to why the Jews (at least some of them) believe the Hebrew year starts September 10.

Again, a possible response to my question is:
'I really don't know'

And more specifically, why you and Elle agree with them.

Said another way (seems like I had asked this) Please give Biblical evidence, not because some Jew believes it, as to why the Jewish year starts September 10.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 10/10/18 06:55 PM

For example...

kland: Which days of the week start with the letter "T"?

Green: Today and Tomorrow.

Yes, that's true, but doesn't really answer my question.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/14/18 07:09 PM

Nice hearing from you GC. Taking Hebrew classes! I'm sure you're enjoying it and have a lot of languages to compare to. Having a gift in languages like you; you get lots from it. I think its a unique and very rich language. Best to you GC.

Don't worry about Kland and I. Just because we are on a different wavelenght; we do agree in a few subject. We will be talking on all other things.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/14/18 11:54 PM

My comment : We've been hearing some news about China for the past year or so about its Deep State infiltration. All countries has their own Deep State infiltrators occupying their government. Russia and Iceland are the few that already cleaned them out of their government.

3 news video about China :

1. Alex Newman – Horrifying Consequences if China Runs Globalist New World Order

Greg Hunter has a pretty good interview with Alex Newman who knew about the Elites' plan to give the Economic power to China's Deep State people.



2. IPOT (In Pursuit of Truth) comments from 9min to 24min about Q's post#2377 about China.


3. Vice President Mike Pence's Remarks on the Administration's Policy Towards China :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeVrMniBjSc
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 10/26/18 08:53 PM

My comment : Currently there's 2 new false flag by the Deep State that is aim to disrupt the coming mid-term election.

1. The Khashoggi murder : Turkey and Saudi Arabia haven't given any official investigation report yet and the story has changed many times; however Main stream Media has their own version they had at their disposal shortly after the incident happened. Below is a good summary of what different news articles and well connected individuals intel about it.

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/10-2018/the-khashoggi-murder/
Quote:
The crisis of the month prize certainly goes to Saudi Arabia for its apparent murder of Jamal Khashoggi on October 2, 2018. I say apparent, because the body has disappeared, even though the Saudis now acknowledge his death in their embassy in Istanbul. One can never be 100% sure when an Intelligence agency is involved. They are skilled in creating illusions for public consumption.

It really depends on who orchestrated this event. If the Saudis themselves really did plan an interrogation-by-torture session with Khashoggi, as it seems, then they botched it hugely. They first tried to deny it and then were forced to change their story.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi...e-idUSKCN1MW2HA

Quote:
As the crisis has grown over the past three weeks, Saudi Arabia has changed its tune on Khashoggi’s fate, first denying his death, then saying he died during a brawl at the consulate, and now attributing the death to a chokehold.


If his body was then sawn asunder and taken piecemeal back to Saudi Arabia in diplomatic suitcases, as it appears, they still ought to be able to present a body, however mutilated it may be.

Saud al -Qahtani, who was the main hitman for Prince Salman and who is said to have been responsible for the murder, was demoted. The same link above states:

Quote:
(Reuters) - He ran social media for Saudi Arabia’s crown prince. He masterminded the arrest of hundreds of his country’s elite. He detained a Lebanese prime minister. And, according to two intelligence sources, he ran journalist Jamal Khashoggi’s brutal killing at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul by giving orders over Skype.

Saud al-Qahtani, a top aide for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, is one of the fall guys as Riyadh tries to stem international outrage at Khashoggi’s death. On Saturday, Saudi state media said King Salman had sacked Qahtani and four other officials over the killing carried out by a 15-man hit team….

Qahtani himself once said he would never do anything without his boss’ approval.

“Do you think I make decisions without guidance? I am an employee and a faithful executor of the orders of my lord the king and my lord the faithful crown prince,” Qahtani tweeted last summer.


What? Qahtani was fired for “giving orders over Skype”? With all of the censorship going on in the Social Media today, why would Microsoft allow Qahtani to use Skype?

Qahtani’s claim makes it difficult for Prince Salman to claim ignorance of the murder. So was this just a botched operation, or did another Intelligence agency run a sting operation in an effort to unseat Salman?


Who was Jamal Khashoggi?

First it is reported that Khashoggi had been a long-time member of the Saudi Intelligence agency in the past. He left Saudi Arabia when power shifted as it so often does. He wrote a few contributing articles, which then seemed to transform him into a “journalist.” This has given the mainstream media the excuse to decry Saudi Arabia for killing a journalist. But the most one could really claim is that Khashoggi was targeted because he had written some articles critical of the present Saudi regime.

This article tells us more about Khashoggi:

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-ugly-terror-truth-about-jamal.html

Quote:
In high school, Jamal Khashoggi had a good friend. His name was Osama bin Laden.

“We were hoping to establish an Islamic state anywhere,” Khashoggi reminisced about their time together in the Muslim Brotherhood. “We believed that the first one would lead to another, and that would have a domino effect which could reverse the history of mankind.”

The friendship endured with Jamal Khashoggi following Osama bin Laden to Afghanistan. Khashoggi credited Adel Batterjee, listed at one time as one of “the world’s foremost terrorist financiers” by the Treasury Department, with bringing him to Afghanistan to report on the fighting….

And when Osama bin Laden set up Al Qaeda, he called Khashoggi with the details.…


The article goes on to explain how Khashoggi was a serious supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood. More important, he was critical of the present Saudi regime, because he was loyal to the previous administration. When the Saudis decided that the Muslim Brotherhood was a threat to their own government, Khashoggi complained and thus became a “dissident.”

Quote:
"Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman should get rid of his complex against the Muslim Brotherhood and stop treating them as the enemy or a threat to Saudi Arabia," he complained, and urged the Saudis to fight Israel instead.


Over a year ago, Khashoggi fled to Turkey so that he would not be arrested and perhaps killed for being a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood. There he linked up with Prince Turki, a former ambassador to the US and the UK and also the former head of the Saudi Intelligence Agency under a previous administration.

He was also welcomed in America, which had been friendly to the Muslim Brotherhood. Under the Obama administration, many members of the Muslim Brotherhood had been placed in key positions of government. The article above concludes:

The media’s relationship with Khashoggi is far more damning than anything the Saudis might have done to him. And the media should be held accountable for its relationship with Osama bin Laden’s old friend.


Dr. Dave Janda’s Opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbKbGZ4K0CQ

Dr. Janda is a renowned orthopedic surgeon. He was also appointed by the former Bush Administration to the Board of the National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, so he spent some time in Washington, where he was exposed to the corruption in politics. This turned him into a political activist as well. He now has a radio show called Operation Freedom.

Dr. Janda says that Khashoggi was on the payroll of George Soros and was in Turkey to do some business for the Deep State. As such, he was critical of an oil deal between Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Why was Khashoggi at the Saudi embassy in Istanbul in the first place? Supposedly, he was there in regard to getting a divorce in preparation of marrying his new girlfriend. But he could have gone to the Saudi embassy in America. Why go to Istanbul?

Dr. Janda says that the interrogator in the Saudi embassy in Istanbul was a Russian, not a Saudi. When the US learned of this, they used this information to obtain the release of Pastor Brunson. Russia has influence in Turkey, so Russia asked Turkey’s Erdogan to release Brunson.

Benjamin Fulford says (though without giving any proof) that Brunson was actually the head of the CIA’s operations in Turkey. Fulford’s explanation would certainly explain why Brunson was so important to the US government, compared to so many other pastors in the Mideast who have been persecuted, jailed, or killed. Keep in mind that to expose a CIA agent with proof would no doubt be a federal crime, so this may explain why no one other than Fulford (who lives in Japan) is exposing Brunson as a CIA operative.

Or Fulford might have received a false report from his CIA sources.

At any rate, it appears that the Russia-Saudi oil deal, along with the Saudi agreement to begin selling oil to China using the yuan instead of the dollar, marked the end of the petro-dollar that was set up in the early 1970’s to replace the gold-backed dollar.

Dr. Janda believes that Khashoggi was sent to Turkey as a Deep State operative and that for some unknown reason he went to the Saudi embassy, where he was then tortured by a Russian. Khashoggi may have fought back, prompting reports of a fist fight. He then died of a heart attack, Dr. Janda believes, which was unanticipated. Having a dead body on their hands, the Saudis then had to quickly decide what to do next.

The same day 15 Saudis flew to Istanbul and then back to Saudi Arabia with extra suitcases, prompting speculation that Khashoggi’s body had been dismembered and transported back to Saudi Arabia. However, there is also a report that his body was wrapped up in a carpet and brought somewhere else, after which time the car (a Mercedes) was abandoned in a parking lot. It was found on October 22.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish...ing-lost-138154

Why would the Saudis abandon one of their cars in a parking lot? It is likely that they had used it to do something illegal, unless it was a ruse that was designed to provide an alternate and less gruesome explanation for the disappearance of the body.

At any rate, Dr. Janda believes that the Deep State decided to blow up this incident with maximum news coverage and to frame it in terms of an attack on journalistic freedom of the press. With so many other dissidents being killed in the Mideast, one wonders why Khashoggi is more important than the others. No doubt the Deep State has its own motive.


The Economic Factor

Is the Deep State trying to disrupt the world economy by driving up the price of oil? The Saudis have threatened to raise the price of a barrel of oil to $400 if the US government pursues this Khashoggi case.

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/fea...u-want-400-oil/

This brings us to the economic issue, which is perhaps the deeper issue behind the news. There is little doubt that the Deep State would like to crash the economy before the midterm elections in order to stop the Republican “red wave.” The economy is ripe for a collapse, in spite of what President Trump is saying in public. The recent downturn in the stock market is just one indication of this.

It appears that the plan is to replace the current banking system with something new as part of a “global reset.” This might involve a “debt-Jubilee,” as many have been telling us. Trump has been criticizing the Federal Reserve Board’s policy of raising interest rates, setting them up to be blamed for a future crash. The Fed could then be nationalized and restructured, thus cancelling the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and giving the Treasury Department the power to create money without having to borrow it from the bankers at interest.

The Deep State, however, would prefer to blame Trump, rather than the Fed. So if they can cause a rise in oil prices that would tank the world economy, they hope to pin the blame on Trump’s Mideast policy.

Whatever the case, it appears that an economic crisis will occur some time after the midterm election, perhaps in 2019. What replaces the current system will depend on whether the Deep State wins the battle or if the Trump team wins. Either way, it appears that we will soon be getting a new system as the economic side of Mystery Babylon falls. I do not think that the Deep State will get its way, because they would just set up another system advantageous to the bankers and thereby continue our enslavement beyond the allotted time.

Nonetheless, even if Trump wins the day, we should prepare for a certain amount of disruption as we move from one system to another. Such changes could be done smoothly, were it not for the opposition. So we should be prepared to weather the transition.


2. The 1.8 Mil+ Caravan coming to US from South America : The US said they will employ the military if needed to stop this illegal invasion to enter the country. One issue is that it was already establish during Obama's presidency that ISIS and MS-13 bad dudes comes in easily the US via the Mexican Southern borders. Another is to give these illegal people a voting priviledge.
Posted By: Daryl

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/01/18 05:40 PM

As we are 115 pages into this thread, seems to me that it is taking a very, very, long time for this new Global Economic Restructuring to take place. dunno
Posted By: JAK

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/01/18 06:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
As we are 115 pages into this thread, seems to me that it is taking a very, very, long time for this new Global Economic Restructuring to take place. dunno

That's because there is no "Global Economic Restructure." Just a bunch of conspiracy theories strung together.
No "Deep State"
No Illuminati
No "Hidden Hand That Rules The World"
No Zombie Apocalypse
No EOTWAWKI
No prison cells and machine guns in the catacombs of Catholic Churches.
No...
No...
No...
sorry
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/06/18 06:16 PM

The Elle's incites the JAKs.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/07/18 08:02 PM

I didn't see any incites(new word for me) in any negative way. Jak expressed his view and I am glad he did.
Posted By: JAK

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/07/18 11:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Elle
I didn't see any incites(new word for me)

New word for kland,too.

Originally Posted By: Elle
Jak expressed his view and I am glad he did.

The only "incites" here are Elle's "insights."
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/09/18 03:18 AM

Sigh....

incite
[in-sahyt]
See more synonyms for incite on Thesaurus.com
verb (used with object), in·cit·ed, in·cit·ing.

to stir, encourage, or urge on; stimulate or prompt to action: to incite a crowd to riot.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/09/18 11:07 AM

My comment : I don't have much knowledge about US government election and the differences between gaining seats at "the house" versus "the senate" and etc....

Dave at X22 Report who goes through the recent news and Q's post says that winning many seats at "the senate" was Q and the Patriots team goal. The main reason is that "the senate" has power over the judicial setup and process. That's what they want and need to conduct their tribunal and go through those 60,000 indictments.

Q always said in the past that it would be the disclosing of the FISA report that will bring "the house" down and remove the gridlocks in legislation from the democrats.



The new political reality
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/11-2018/the-new-political-reality/

Nov 07, 2018
Quote:
With the House now controlled by the Democratic Party, and the Senate now (fully) controlled by the Republican Party, the lines have been drawn for the political battles that lie ahead.

The Democrats will be able to bring gridlock to legislation. They will pass bills in the House that will fail in the Senate.

The Republicans will be able to retain control of the judicial appointments—Supreme Court appointments as well as federal judges across America. The Senate confirms all of these appointments, and the House has no power in that arena.

Here is what Q has to say today about this (November 7, 2018, Post #2448:

Quote:
Think logically.
Why was winning the House majority the primary goal for them? [Democrats]
To this point, what chamber is currently directing the DOJ/FBI investigations?
To this point, what chamber do they feel most threatened by? [Judiciary Committee]
While the focus was on the House for them (due to above), our underlying focus was adding PRO_POTUS members to the Senate and safely securing a PRO_MAJORITY.
THE SENATE IS WORTH SO MUCH MORE.
THE SENATE CONTROLS JUDGES & CABINET POSITIONS W/O HOUSE APPROVAL.
THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE HAS DIRECT OVERSIGHT OVER THE DOJ & FBI [MORE POWER THAN THE HOUSE].
While we had a senate majority on paper, in reality, we never did, nor could we count on bringing investigations to that body until it was safely in our full control.
THE SENATE WAS ALWAYS THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE.
Moves & Countermoves.
We defied history by picking up Senate seats.
Patriots delivered.


That is a good analysis of the new political reality. For the president’s party to win more Senate seats during a midterm election is unusual and has made history, says Q.

With control of the judicial process, the 61,000 sealed indictments can now be unsealed and high-level criminals can be prosecuted successfully. This will probably mean that some of the members of the House will also be prosecuted for treason, human trafficking, and other crimes. The House itself will not be able to prevent this.

Furthermore, since many of these cases are for treason, these people will be tried by military tribunals. That takes it out of the political arena altogether.
...
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/13/18 09:28 AM

My comment : Good news for Trump & the Patriots team.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Will Retire from the US Supreme Court in January, 2019
https://www.smobserved.com/story/2018/11...-2019/3658.html
November 11, 2018
Quote:
While the Nation is preoccupied with the appointment of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to replace Justice Anthony Kennedy, it appears there will soon be another vacancy on the US Supreme Court.

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has had a re-occurrence of malignant melanoma, she has told her law clerks. Ginsburg was treated in 1999 for colon cancer and had surgery in 2009 for pancreatic cancer.

She has told key Democratic members of the Senate about her medical condition, including ranking Democratic member of the Judiciary Committee Dianne Feinstein. This explains in part the "take no prisoners" attitude of the Democrats during the Kavanaugh nomination, carefully orchestrating weak 37 year old allegations against Kavanaugh by Women he barely remembers knowing in High School and College. ...
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/13/18 09:33 AM

The Baphomet lawsuit

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/11-2018/the-baphomet-lawsuit/

Nov 12, 2018

Quote:
Satanists have filed a defamation lawsuit against Warner Brothers for $150 million for portraying their god Baphomet with slightly different features from their public relations campaign to popularize him with children.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/08/the-satanic-temple-sues-netflix-warner-bros-for-150-million.html

Quote:
At the center of the controversy is Baphomet, described in the court documents as "an androgynous goat-headed deity." A statue of the satanic god surrounded by children is featured in the Netflix series "The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina."

However, the lawsuit claims the show's statue is similar to The Satanic Temple's real-life Baphomet monument, which was made famous by an Indiegogo campaign in 2014. Although it was intended to be installed next to the Ten Commandments at the Oklahoma State Capitol, it now resides in Detroit after multiple protests. The Baphomet statue has since become "a central icon that has come to represent us [satanists] as a people," explained The Satanic Temple co-founder Lucien Greaves…

Because the statue is featured prominently in the show, The Satanic Temple claims its members are being associated with the "evil antagonists" depicted in the series. The characters of the show, who worship the "Dark Lord" or Satan, engage in cannibalism, necromancy, murder and torture, among other nefarious activities.

The Satanic Temple, on the other hand, "does not promote evil and instead holds to the basic principle that undue suffering is bad, and that which reduces suffering is good," the organization claims. It hails Satan as a "rebel against God's authority, rather than an evil being."


At the link below is how the Satanists want Baphomet to be presented.

https://katv.com/news/local/hundreds-exp...rapert-responds

As you can see, a boy and a girl look up to him in an adoring manner.

In past decades, particularly since the musical, Jesus Christ Superstar, first appeared, it was quite fashionable to present Jesus in a bad light and even as a homosexual. This is still being done with immunity. However, to present Mohammed in a bad light is illegal and even worthy of the death penalty, they say. And now the Satanists are asserting themselves as well.

As many of you know, I have had some run-ins with Baphomet myself. As Satanists and Luciferians bring him out into the open, the people themselves will have to decide if they want to worship a God of Love or a god of pedophilia, cannibalism, and homosexuality.

We are moving toward a religious conflict. But this conflict will be resolved by the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. We have already won the spiritual war, and it is only a matter of time before we see our victories emerge into the physical world and in the governments of men. The Holy Spirit will open men’s eyes to see the reality of the spiritual situation.

Satanists have been told that the God of the Bible is the evil god, and this is why they have joined the rebellion. In part, this view is reinforced by the church’s teaching on eternal torment, which presents God as unjust and vindictive. The solution is to study the law of God and find out how God defines true justice. There we find mercy and grace built into the law, which limits judgment and gives it purpose—to correct sinners, not to destroy them forever. Paul defined the love of God in terms of Christ dying for His enemies (Romans 5:7, 8, 9, 10) and ultimately justifying all men (Romans 5:18). Can Baphomet make the same claim?

The truth of God’s love will be revealed to all at some point, and then men will repent everywhere. The fear-based Old Covenant gospel that has been preached in the past has not been successful. It is time to unveil a New Covenant gospel of God’s ability to save all mankind. It may not look like truth is winning at this point in history, but the darkness is always deepest just before the dawn.

The dawn is already breaking.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 - 11/13/18 07:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Daryl
As we are 115 pages into this thread, seems to me that it is taking a very, very, long time for this new Global Economic Restructuring to take place. dunno


Originally Posted By: kland
Yep, you waited for it and here it is:
Originally Posted By: kland
#138560 - 01/02/12 "about a new global economic restructuring arising in 2012".

#148963 - 01/11/13 "I think they had thought that it would of been done before 2012 ended, however, it is taking longer.... We'll see what the Lord will accomplish this year. "

#158982 - 12/05/13 "No-one know the date, however the signs are all around us. "

Hmmmm. If not in 2014, at least by the beginning of 2015. And if not at the beginning of 2015, at least by the end.....

2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017?

Perhaps this restructuring is not something that is visible or apparent. Perhaps this restructuring is not something that affects anyone to their knowledge. But the title, and I imagine the purpose, of this thread was to convey a global encompassing restructure changing everything.

From the original post:

130 Nations that has allied together to throw down Mystery Babylon

on the problem of the unsustainable global economy for the past 8 years. (prior to 2012)

a New Global Economic Structure that will begin surfacing in 2012.



Yes, we can't go on forever, as the Bible says so, but to predict a certain such a year....?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/03/18 07:10 PM

My comment: Many false flags are happening as Trump Team and the patriots are getting closer to Declassify the FIFA report, report on the mid-term election fraud, Hilary emails trials, and processing the 60K+ indictment.

December 5th was announced by Q as being a big date with announcement; but now that Bush Sr. has died, Dec 5th will be a day of morning for Bush.

Concerning, the world wide currency reset is one of the major next step in this Economic restructure. Some experts who keeps an eye on the alternative news and those that have good reliable sources are talking about a Jan 2019 currency reset. Others says the market is going to crash by the spring and the currency reset will happen shortly after.

Personally, I'm still waiting to see a major outpouring of the Holy Spirit that will bring the people into repentance.

According to Lev 26:40-42 God said He won't release us from our captivity to Babylon until we repent. 40 "If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me; 41 And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:

42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
"

I believe we cannot repent of our own. God will send us His Spirit with its flood of truth about Mystery Babylon that will eventually lead us to our realization of our own disobedience towards God (Lev 26 & Deut 28). It is really our animosity towards God that He corrected us by putting us in captivity to Babylon.

Latest QAnon Report
Dec 1st, 2018
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/12-2018/latest-qanon-report/

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/21/18 07:30 PM

My comment : Last year Dec 6th, Trump signed an executive order declaring Jerusalem as the capital of the Israeli state. He ordered the US embassy to be moved to Jerusalem.

Below is a link where I reported this on this forum :
Post #185676

Well, it appears that they were building the new temple underground. We don't know the details as this project was kept secret. They also have elected the 70 elders for their sanhedrin (divine councils).

Dec 10th 2018, they dedicated the sacrificial altar. They didn't even follow the law by sacrificing an live animal for the dedication of the altar/temple. By the video they only layed some meat on it. They also claim that they have a perfect red heifer. They seem ready to start sacrificial services this coming spring.

Check the two you-tube videos below : The first is about the dedication of the altar. The second is about the sanhedrin and the reconstruct of the temple underground.

Jews dedicate altar in Jerusalem
Dec 17, 2018

Quote:
On Monday, December 10, 2018, priests of Judaism dedicated an altar for the third temple in Jerusalem. The dedication took place on the 8th day of Hannukah in order to coincide with the rededication of the second temple by the Maccabees in 163 B.C.

Here is a short video with some interviews. You will note some key statements such as “The Messiah is a Jew. He is not Jesus.” Also, the old Jew says that he would rather go back to Auschwitz than to accept Jesus as the Messiah. The Christian interviewer seems a bit conflicted, since he does not believe in the effectiveness of animal sacrifices, and yet he believes that there will be symbolic animal sacrifices in the Age to come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=H9c_l2s6Wk8

Here are photos of the ceremony. Note one of the pictures says that not only did they burn wood on the altar but they also threw “meat” onto it.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/118474/dedication-altar-third-temple/

I have believed for many years that the first time they offer an animal sacrifice on the altar, they will be committing an abomination that tramples on the blood of Jesus Christ. It appears that they did this at the dedication ceremony, although there is another greater abomination coming, when they perform the burnt offering of the red heifer.

This, I believe, is the blasphemy which will bring down the city in the end, fulfilling Jeremiah 19:11. It may be that they have put themselves on Cursed Time and that we should watch 414 days later (January 27/28, 2020).

So no matter which side of the fence we are on, it is clear that we have just crossed a very important threshold.

One more thing… On Saturday, December 15, 2018, before we had heard about this dedication of the altar, Father directed us to negate all counterfeit and false members of the Divine Council (or Sanhedrin). We petitioned to strip away their authority to prevent subversive activities in the Kingdom. In the video above, they talk about the Jewish Sanhedrin that has been formed in recent years.


My comment: Below is a Biblical overview about the parallel of the Old-Jerusalem-Temple with the Old covenant marriage type of relationship with Hagar compared to the New-Jerusalem-Temple with the New covenant marriage type of relationship with Sarah and the Temple destruction prophecies in Jer 19, Isaiah 29 and Gal 4.

In which Temple do you Worship

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/12-2018/in-which-temple-do-you-worship/

Quote:
On December 10, 2018 an altar of sacrifice was dedicated at the western wall in Jerusalem. I posted a video of the ceremony yesterday.

What I did not realize was that an underground synagogue was dedicated a year ago today on December 18, 2017. I do not know its precise location, but the video below gives the impression that it is located within (under) the temple mount itself. It also gives you a video tour of this synagogue and a virtual tour of the planned temple.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzmC2-sY5IM

The next video, which was posted last January, shows some of the archeological excavation, which I think is how they built the synagogue itself. The narrator tells us that the “idol” at the center is located directly under the spot where the Most Holy Place stood at one time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7SKlYhKMfI

What Does It Mean?

The narrator believes that these events are fulfilling Bible prophecy. I agree, but we do have some differences. He understands these events from the Dispensationalist viewpoint, which developed in the 1850’s. It is the view that Christ will come at the start of The Tribulation to “rapture” the church to heaven, at which time an Antichrist will arise as a world leader.

This Antichrist, they say, will build a temple in Jerusalem and rule from there for either 7 or perhaps 3½ years. During this time, they say, 144,000 Jewish Christians will evangelize the world. The problem is that when the Rapture occurs, the Holy Spirit will be removed from the earth (so they say). So, given the absence of the Holy Spirit, I don’t see how those Jewish evangelists themselves could be believers, nor could they be successful in their evangelism. In my view the Holy Spirit is required for anyone to be drawn to God.

At the end of seven years, they say, Christ will return with His saints, and He will kick the Antichrist out of his temple and take it over. The temple in Jerusalem, then, will serve as the headquarters for Christ’s Kingdom for the next thousand years, while Levitical priests make daily animal sacrifices in the outer court of the temple.

For many decades, going back at least to the 1950’s, Christians have been donating funds to build this third temple, hoping to hasten Christ’s coming. They say that Christ cannot come until these prophecies are fulfilled, so they actually contribute money to the building of the Antichrist’s house. It seems to me that they should let the Antichrist fund his own house and that God’s money is better spent on actual evangelism and Kingdom work.

What I Believe

I suppose the excuse is that the temple will be Jesus’ house in the end. However, my understanding of the book of Hebrews tells me that Jesus instituted “better things,” and that He replaced many features of Old Covenant worship.

We have a New Covenant, replacing the Old Covenant (Hebrews 8:8,13). It is a “better covenant” than that which was made at Mount Horeb (Hebrews 7:22).

We have a better Sacrifice that utilizes the blood of Jesus Himself (Hebrews 9:12), replacing animal sacrifices which had to be repeated daily because they could never perfect anyone (Hebrews 10:1, 4), nor could they ever “take away sins” (Hebrews 10:11). If animal sacrifices could perfect anyone, “would they not have ceased to be offered?” (Hebrews 10:2).

We have a new Melchizedek Order (Hebrews 7:12, 16), replacing the Levitical Order.

We have an immortal High Priest of this Melchizedek Order (Hebrews 5:6, 10; 7:24), replacing the mortal high priests who were of Aaron (Hebrews 7:23, 28).

We have “a more perfect tabernacle” (Hebrews 9:11), made of living stones (1 Peter 2:5), replacing the temple made of dead stones.

We have better ceremonies that do not depend on vessels made of gold (Hebrews 9:2-5), for our great High Priest conducts His ceremonies in the temple in heaven, a “more perfect tabernacles, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation” (Hebrews 9:11).

We have a heavenly Jerusalem (Galatians 4:25, 26), replacing the earthly Jerusalem.

These are things which every genuine Christian ought to know. It astounds me that so many would so easily return to the types and shadows and imperfect forms of worship that were set forth under the Old Covenant. Somehow they think that they can have both at the same time, as if the two covenants existed side by side.

In my view there is only one (successful) way of salvation, and that is through the New Covenant. The Old Covenant was based on man’s promise to God and his ability to keep his word. The New Covenant is based upon better promises, because God Himself has promised and is faithful to fulfill His word (Hebrews 10:23).

With this New Covenant comes many other changes (listed above). One cannot merely add the New Covenant to an Old Covenant system of worship. To do so is to reject the Mediator of the New Covenant. The book of Hebrews was written specifically to call Jews out of Judaism into the form of worship that is submitted to the new High Priest, Jesus Christ. Hence, the appeal is made in Hebrews 13:12-14,

12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people through His own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 Hence, let us go out to Him outside the camp, bearing His reproach. 14 For here we do not have a lasting city, but we are seeking the city which is to come.

Those who refuse to follow Jesus “outside the camp” show that they still believe that the earthly Jerusalem is the true city of God. But Scripture says, “here we do not have a lasting city.” In other words, Jerusalem is not “the eternal city,” that so many believe it to be. Even Abraham himself sought a “a better country, that is a heavenly one… for He has prepared a city for them” (Hebrews 11:16).

In other words, Abraham did not seek an earthly country (Canaan), nor did he seek an earthly Jerusalem. He sought for something better, says the author of Hebrews. We too ought to seek a better inheritance. It is the heavenly Jerusalem, not the earthly city.

Yet when Jews and even Christians think that the earthly Jerusalem will be the capital of the Kingdom of Christ, they show that they have refused to go outside the camp, bearing the cross of Christ with Him. Their faith is misplaced, and their vision is limited to fleshly things. If they seek an inheritance in the earthly city, they will suffer its fate as well, for they will later discover that it is “not a lasting city.”

The prophets told us Jerusalem’s fate. Though the earthly city was given the opportunity to fulfill the promises of men and to be the holy city, it failed in the end to achieve righteousness. So Isaiah 29:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 prophesies utter destruction in terms that suggest a nuclear blast. God Himself will lay siege to the city, the prophet says.

Jeremiah 19:1 compares Jerusalem to an old “earthenware jar” which was to be smashed in the valley of Ben-hinnom (Greek: Gehenna). Jeremiah 19:10, 11 says,

10 Then you are to break the jar in the sight of the men who accompany you 11 and say to them, “Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘Just so shall I break this people and this city, even as one breaks a potter’s vessel, which cannot again be repaired; and they will bury in Topheth because there is no other place for burial’.”

This is a clear prophecy that explains the phrase “no lasting city.” The earthly Jerusalem was the temporary abode of God, the place where He placed His name after leaving Shiloh (Jeremiah 7:12, 13, 14). Just as He left Shiloh, He again left Jerusalem, and now His Name or presence is in a new temple described in Revelation 22:4, “His name shall be on their foreheads.”

To put it another way, we are children of the heavenly Jerusalem, called “Sarah” (Galatians 4:26). To consider the earthly Jerusalem to be the mother of the Kingdom is to claim “Hagar” as our mother (Galatians 4:25). Such a viewpoint lays claim to the Old Covenant and all of its consequences. Paul was telling us that to remain in Judaism and to have faith in the Old Covenant is to be a child of Hagar, the bond woman.

Casting out the Bondwoman

The solution, according to the apostle Paul, is given in Galatians 4:30, 31,

30 But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be an heir with the son of the free woman.” 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of a bondwoman, but of the free woman.

We are fast approaching the end when it will become very important to know who you are. Whose son are you? You cannot claim to be the son of Sarah while yet adhering to Hagar, the earthly Jerusalem. Neither can you claim to be a New Covenant believer while having faith that you can fulfill your own promise to God. Neither can you claim the blood of Jesus while thinking that animal sacrifices will again be instituted in the age to come. The cross of Christ was not a temporary feature that God gave by grace to the church until the Old Covenant system is re-established for the age to come.

With the dedication of the new synagogue last year and the altar of sacrifice this year, we have come to the crossroad, the crisis point in Christianity itself. This is where one’s belief is all important, for it will affect your life and may even affect your very salvation that is rooted in the blood of Jesus.

I did not learn of the altar dedication until yesterday, but some of us were already receiving relevant revelation in the past week. Last Saturday we were led to convene a Divine Council meeting here at my office and expel all former Council members who had been disqualified, as well as all who presently falsely claim to be Council members.

In the time of Christ, the Council was the Sanhedrin. A new Sanhedrin has been appointed in recent years in Jerusalem, as the videos show. All of those members reject Jesus Christ, unless perchance some are secret believers in Jesus while denying Him in public. Either way, they are NOT genuine members of the Divine Council. Any decrees or judgments that they make are null and void.

In the New Testament, Jesus chose 70 as His Divine Council members (Luke 10:1). The Sanhedrin at that time did not recognize those that Jesus appointed, for they did not appear to be worthy, nor were they prominent rabbis. The two groups of 70 were in competition. It is no different today. God knows who the 70 are today, even as He knows who the 12 “princes” of the tribes are (correlating with the 12 disciples).

Yesterday we had another meeting at my office, and once again ran into spiritual opposition from Christ’s competitors. Toward the end, the spirit of Hagar manifested in front of us, and we cast out that spirit about 2:36 pm. Only then did it occur to me that this fulfilled Galatians 4:30, where Paul says to “cast out the bondwoman.” That was interesting.

More sobering, however, is the fact that this portion of the meeting was a Divine Council session, and that we literally decided against Hagar, the earthly Jerusalem, who has been competing with Sarah as the mother of the Kingdom and its heirs. The case was decided, and the timing of this shows us that the prophesied fate of the earthly Jerusalem has been sealed.

Of course, who are we to decide such things? We are quite literally unknown and unrecognized. We are nobodies, much like the 70 that Jesus sent out. Nonetheless, we heard His voice, and we acted accordingly by faith. God will decide whose decrees to honor, for He alone knows who has acted according to His word.

I believe we are entering into a climactic time, where the stage has been set for the final drama on the stage of world history.


My comment : The article below gives us a prophetic discernment of where we stand today in scriptures according to prophetic fulfillment that God made happened in believers life to further understand the Sarah-Hagar TYPES and God's purpose for them. This is an article that is very unfamiliar grounds for most of us as it deals with the spiritual warfare not between satan and an individual; but rather warfare that happens in higher hiarchy "against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.".

The Bride has made herself ready
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/12-2018/the-bride-has-made-herself-ready/

Dec 20, 2018
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I have noticed over the years that the revelation I receive is witnessed by actual experience in some way. Often these coincide. The date of a particular revelation often marks the start of a period in which I am required to walk out the revelation. Perhaps this is part of bringing it from heaven to earth.

At other times, usually in regard to revelations that deal with mere character issues, I have found that difficulties or challenges arise the same day which force me to focus upon those particular issues. For instance, if I write about love or patience—especially if I receive some new insight—God then brings people or situations into my life that give me some practice exercising my new revelation. Such challenges serve as a double witness to the revelation that establishes it in the earth. Recognizing God’s ways and tactics can be quite helpful.

There are many times, however, walking a path in the dark, having only a small lamp at my feet, I am unable to see the big picture. Such times require faith, which is an inner knowing that the light guiding my feet is indeed the word of God (Psalm 119:105). I believe that God requires this near-blind faith at times, so that when the light comes, I know that God was the one who led me and that I did not go down that path by my own understanding.

The Recent Focus on the Bride

Last week some of us here (locally) began to receive revelation along a new train of thought. Our attention was brought to the topic of the Bride of Christ. I won’t try to trace this back through the things I have seen in the past, where this topic was raised, because most who have walked out this revelation have gotten into trouble and have failed in one way or another. In fact, when this topic came up in our radar recently, my first thought was, “Oh, no, here we go again!”

Yet because I have had time to observe the pitfalls from the past, I was able to assist. At any rate, this really came to the surface when God spoke to Sharon saying, “You are Sarah.” God can say so much with so few words! It meant obviously that God had put her in a position as a type of the Bride. Further, by calling her “Sarah,” the word provided context and precedents by which to understand this.

The precedent is obviously the story of Abraham and his two wives, Sarah and Hagar. I have already written about this and have discussed the prophetic significance of each woman in bringing forth the heir of the promise. By understanding the story in light of Paul’s explanation in Galatians 4, we are given the context in the present story. In my view, the failure of many others to walk out the story properly is due to a shortage of understanding the biblical meaning of the “allegory,” as Paul calls it.

I am confident, however, that our current story will be successful, because it is apparent (to me) that God has given us an understanding of Galatians 4 that most others do not share. And yet there are also new revelations accompanying the present experience, so we are able to increase our understanding beyond what we knew previously. In other words, we are now walking out the new revelations in order to establish them by a double witness in the earth.

As of yesterday afternoon (December 19, 2018), we now know that we were set up to fulfill (in type form) the verse in Revelation 19:7, 8,

7 Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready. 8 And it was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.

What John foresaw at the end of the first century, we are about to experience at this end of the age (collectively). As individuals, of course, we are all called to enter into this revelation in some way or another, for it applies both individually and collectively. Individuals experience such cleansing in their own lives; but the bride is also a body of people from many generations, and on that level the bride cannot be “ready” until the final individual has been cleansed and can join that body.

We must learn to think on both levels, because God is working on both levels. He is just as interested in the whole of creation as He is in each individual. He is not just saving individuals; He is also “the Savior of all men” (1 Timothy 4:10).

How to Get Ready

God betrothed the seed of Abraham in Genesis 12:1-3, when He first proposed marriage. There He promised His bride many children, to protect her, to honor her, to give her a good home, and to provide for her needs. Abraham accepted the proposal on behalf of his collective seed that was to be the bride.

Some centuries later, God redeemed (purchased) a slave bride from Egypt and brought her to Mount Horeb. There He married Israel, using Moses as the officiating minister. So the prophets later tell us that God had married Israel. However, they prophesied in the context of Israel’s unfaithfulness. Hosea’s prophecy shows that Israel was a harlot, pictured by the prophet’s wife, Gomer. This agrees with Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and other prophets as well, who use such language.

Before that original marriage ceremony at Mount Horeb (or Sinai), God told the people to prepare themselves for marriage. Exodus 19:10, 11 says,

10 The Lord also said to Moses, “Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow, and let them wash their garments; 11 and let them be ready for the third day, for on the third day the Lord will come down on Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people.”

In those days, the people had to do their laundry, for they were acting as types and shadows of greater things yet to come. In Revelation 19:8 we see that getting ready also had to do with garments of “fine linen.” But here we are given the real meaning of these garments, “the righteous acts of the saints.”

In other words, doing one’s laundry does not really prepare a bride for marriage. Outer clothing is not the real issue, although clothing can certainly serve as a type and shadow illustrating the real deal. Unfortunately, when we look at the story, we understand that Israel agreed to the marriage but did not prepare her heart. She prepared outwardly but had no inward heart change.

1 John 3:18 says,

18 Little children, let us not love with word or with tongue, but in deed and truth.

Israel professed her love for God but failed to follow through “in deed and truth.” She took her vows of obedience (Exodus 19:8) but failed to fulfill those vows. Hence, she lacked the linen garments, which were “the righteous acts of the saints.”

Such righteous acts are only possible under the New Covenant, because God has vowed to make us righteous by His own power through the working of the Holy Spirit. The Ten Commandments, then, are the Ten Promises of the New Covenant, where God promises that we will have no other gods before Him, that we will not steal, murder, or covet. Our success is not based upon our attempt to fulfill our own vows of obedience but upon God’s vow to make it happen as He changes our hearts.

So the Bride must make herself ready first by having faith in the promises of God. Such is New Covenant faith that identifies with the faith of Abraham in Romans 4:21. Only through the New Covenant can she obtain “linen garments,” which clothe the inward parts and not merely the outward body.

Israel, however, was a bond woman (Hagar) and was therefore suffered from a lesser form of marriage. Her marriage was legitimate (lawful) but it was slated for divorce in the end. God had planned a better marriage for the future, and this could take place only after His first marriage had ended in divorce (Jeremiah 3:8).

Cleansing from Inner Defilement

We see, then, that the real way to prepare for marriage is to deal with inner defilement, which alone can change the heart and bring us into agreement that characterizes a New Covenant marriage. Whereas an Old Covenant marriage requires obedience, a New Covenant marriage requires agreement. Obedience implies submission to authority; agreement implies that there is no need to enforce compliance, for authority has been rendered irrelevant.

That is why a man’s authority over his wife began in Genesis 3:16, which was after sin entered the picture. Originally (Genesis 2:24), marriage was meant to be a man and a woman in agreement (“one flesh”). The original marriage condition was based on the New Covenant, whereas later it was reduced to an Old Covenant pattern. Sin made it necessary to set up a line of authority, but this was not the original intent of God in a marriage.

For further study of this, see my book, Old and New Covenant Marriage.

The Current Type and Shadow

As I said earlier, Sharon was made the type of the Bride. Most important was that she was to play the role of Sarah, rather than Hagar. (That was encouraging!) Yesterday it occurred to me that this role really dates back a year and a half to when we first began to minister to her in July 2017. At that time, she walked into a prayer meeting and immediately an evil spirit was disturbed. We then had to cast it out of her.

I thought we were done at that point, but as time passed, more spirits surfaced, and we had to deal with them one at a time. Only yesterday did I realize that she was being cleansed inwardly in her prophetic role as a Sarah-Bride.

The first few exorcisms dealt with her own problems brought about by her background in Satanic ritual abuse. But once she was cleansed, she was ready for her role as a representative of the collective body of the Sarah company. Hence, we saw a series of evil spirits being drawn to her as if she were a magnet, some of which were high-level princes over islands, regions, and nations.

This was unusual, for I had not seen this in my past experience. Though it took awhile to understand what was happening, we still had to deal with those spirits when they manifested. To turn aside would have been to leave her in a painful condition. In all, we have probably cast out a hundred evil spirits out of her, never more than a few at a time.

Then last week God began to reveal the big picture of what was happening. The most revealing factor was when we began to cast out evil spirits that currently torment the church as a whole. On December 10 we cast out Fear of Torment, Counterfeit Vengeance, and the Spirit of Delusion. These have to do with the church’s belief that a vengeful God will torture sinners forever.

We followed up on December 14 by casting out Judgmentalism, Harshness, Resistance, and Legalism. Then on December 17 we cast out the Twin Towers of Power and Wealth, along with the Red Dragon and the Spirit of Hagar. On December 19 we cast out the spirit of Blindness and concluded with the spirit of Old Covenant Marriage.

That was when the big picture was revealed, showing us that the Bride was making herself ready. These evil spirits in the church were being summoned to us as we met in a divine court setting or as a divine council, so that we could pronounce judgment upon them and cast them out. This was designed to prepare the Sarah company for marriage and to bring forth the sons of God.

We saw no particular clothing as being a factor in all of this. What we saw was the inner condition that is pictured biblically as clothing. What is most encouraging is that God is revealing something comparable to the preparation of Hagar in Exodus 19 but is actually fulfilling the Sarah prophecy in Revelation 19.

The Son of Laughter

Recall that Revelation 19:7 begins by saying, “Let us rejoice and be glad.” I had never connected this prophecy to Isaac, the son of laughter. When the angel told Abraham about this, he laughed (Genesis 17:17). He laughed, not because he doubted but because he was ecstatic (Romans 4:19, 20, 21). Sarah also laughed on another occasion (Genesis 18:12, 13, 14, 15), though she denied it out of fear. It appears that she laughed because of doubt and was in need of some cleansing before she could bring forth the promised son in Genesis 21:3.

The birth of Isaac began a time of conflict between him and his older half-brother, Ishmael, who had been expecting to inherit the birthright from Abraham. Both Hagar and Ishmael had to be cast out in order to prepare the way for Isaac to be the inheritor. So also have we followed this prophetic type in recent days, as we are now at the start of "the third day" (Hosea 6:2).

This past ten days, after each deliverance session, we were rejoicing with a lot of laughter. In fact, this really goes back to the first deliverance session in July 2017. After Sharon had recovered, she could not help but get up and dance around the room. Her joy was overwhelming and she could not sit still until she had released it.

Her rejoicing came after every session in the past year, but we did not understand it fully until yesterday while we were laughing and rejoicing. Then this morning, as I looked at Revelation 19:7, it finally occurred to me that John’s prophecy was referring to Sarah, the New Covenant Bride and her “son of laughter.” And for this reason, John tells us to “rejoice and be glad.”

So we rejoice. We are glad, because we see events coming which were prophesied 1900 years ago by John—and even farther back by other prophets.

I do not know if there is more preparation work to be done, but walking out these revelations indicates that the time is near for the marriage of the Lamb and for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/27/18 12:13 PM

The Treasury's war with the Fed
Dec 26, 2018
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2018/12-2018/the-treasurys-war-with-the-fed/

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The stock market has rallied mysteriously today after dropping 5,000 points since early October. By all accounts, the market was set to plunge further today when the markets opened after Christmas, especially when we saw the market in Japan go down by more than 5 percent earlier today.

However, the Plunge Protection Team got into action, not only preventing a collapse but rallying the market artificially. As I write this, the market is up 1,086 points, which is almost unheard of.

The other day, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin tweeted to the public that he was going to meet with the Plunge Protection Team to deal with this market crisis. The news media called it a "rare" tweet, but the results are now evident. Here is what his tweet tells the public:

1. The Plunge Protection Team actually exists.

2. The Plunge Protection Team is designed to manipulate the markets.

3. The Trump Team controls the Plunge Protection Team now (rather than the Deep State).

4. The Plunge Protection Team is now being called upon to protect us from the Federal Reserve's monetary policy of raising interest rates.

5. It was a signal to stock traders to buy, because the market was going to go back up when the PPT started buying.

The PPT manipulates the markets by buying or selling stocks. The question is who actually owns those stocks? On which balance sheet can one find those stocks?

The only thing I find somewhat deceptive is the notion that the PPT meets only when called upon by the Treasury Secretary. It may be that the main bankers are not directly involved in the day-to-day decisions, but they certainly have agents who monitor the markets daily and manipulate them accordingly.

The PPT was established by Reagan after the 1987 market crash. Prior to that time, the Fed itself was the main manipulator of markets. I recall back in the 1970's, Congress asked Fed Chairman Arthur Burns about this, and he told them on the record that they bought and sold more than a trillion dollars worth of stocks EVERY DAY.

That was back in the 1970's. There is no telling how much is bought and sold today by the Fed, but now the PPT has gotten involved as well.

More to the point, the PPT is apparently not part of the "independent" Fed but is under the Treasury Secretary and thus controlled by whoever is president. In view of Trump's recent barrage of anti-Fed tweets and the media's rush to keep the Fed "independent" (i.e. sovereign over the US government), it is now clear that Trump is at war with the Fed. Rumor has it that Trump is working to discredit the Fed and to nationalize it at some point soon.

Many of us who know the history of the Fed's founding in 1913 understand that this event put us into bondage to the moneyed interests of international banking. The passage of the Federal Reserve Act is specifically what put us into the Laodicean Age of captivity to Mystery Babylon. So the nationalization of the Fed would specifically mark the overthrow of Mystery Babylon, ending its rule ("independence") over the US government.

It will be interesting to watch how this progresses. I think that 2019 is going to be quite eventful, but not before the first of January.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 12/31/18 07:17 PM

Elle, regarding past issues of you saying things happen on feast days and the shepherd's rod bit, here's something I found.
http://whyperish.org/2010/09/how-are-we-to-keep-the-feast-days-today/

Looking at the pdf, I don't believe you say the same thing they say.

Also, http://www.shepherds-rod-speaks.org/2016/02/how-do-we-apply-the-feast-days-today/

http://www.shepherds-rod-speaks.org/2016...-feast-keepers/
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/08/19 03:00 AM

My comment : Is building a wall immoral. Is the Pope and others right to believe that immigration is an individual right and countries should allow unlimited immigration on the false basis of improving the economy.

An even more important question is how does God view immigration and should nations protect themselves by building a wall?

I agree with the zerohedge article below. God wants us to build a wall for the security of the nation.

Key Democrat Admits Trump Has Authority To Declare National Emergency To Build Wall

Jan 7, 2018
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-0...ency-build-wall

The wall of the New Jerusalem
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2019/01-2019/the-wall-of-the-new-jerusalem/
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Pope Francis has often come out in support of unlimited immigration into Europe and North America on the grounds that Europe needs more people to have a viable economy and that “separating families is immoral.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-franci...moral-catholic/

President Trump’s response is that the Vatican’s own 40-foot walls are higher than the one he wants to build on the border with Mexico.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...high-walls.html

Virtually no politician of any party had ever taken a stand against border walls as a moral principle prior to the election of Donald Trump. The Clintons both took a stand advocating border security to keep out illegal immigrants. Even Obama took the same stand, although it was during his administration that he began to ignore the laws that both parties had passed to provide some measure of border security. In doing so, he said one thing and did another.

Even so, it was not until the presidency of Donald Trump that unlimited immigration without vetting has been pushed as a “human right.” Yet some treat it as if this was always a right, much like they have tried to convince us that “gay rights” have always been the norm. Only the very young believe that, because such conditions are all that they remember in their brief lifetime.

Open borders is just a single step toward one world government, because with no borders, nations are changed to regions. From the standpoint of prophecy, Babylon sees that its empire is collapsing. Donald Trump has forced the Babylonians to speed up their agenda and to make a mad dash to the finish line.


The Walls of the New Jerusalem

So what exactly does God have to say about border walls? What is a Kingdom position in this latest disagreement?

Well, first of all, both the old Jerusalem and the New Jerusalem have walls. Not many years ago, our politicians financed their border wall—which, by the way, has been very effective. Its morality is another question, of course, along with its location, but no one can doubt its effectiveness.

More important for our purposes, however, is the border wall of the New Jerusalem that is described in Revelation 21. The Pope may condemn it as immoral and unchristian, but Scripture stands firmly against him. Revelation 21:12 says, “It had a great and high wall with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels.” Further, Revelation 21:27 gives us its purpose:

27 and nothing unclean and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

In other words, only citizens of the Kingdom will be allowed access to the city, and they must come through one of the gates, where they are vetted by the twelve angels guarding the gates. The walls were not meant to keep people out of the city but to channel them through one of the twelve gates. In other words, God wants them to enter the city, but only after they have come to Christ, who is the Door. They must have biblical faith, which is expressed (James says) by conforming to the laws of God.

The Kingdom standard is not based upon race, nationality, or gender. It is based on one’s allegiance to King Jesus and his conformity to the laws of the Kingdom. The reference to those who practice “abomination and lying” is primarily a reference to idolatry and following the laws of false gods. In Hebrew thinking, an “abomination” was a euphemism for an idol.

So it is clear that the walls of the New Jerusalem were designed to keep non-Christians out of the city. To enter the city, they must go through the gates—the proper channel. The walls of a city were always designed to establish “border security.” They were designed to establish boundaries and to protect the lawful citizens from outsiders.

In a spiritual sense, walls are moral boundaries. In other words, walls symbolize the laws defining the moral principles by which the citizens live their lives. In the case of the New Jerusalem, citizens are not permitted to worship idols, for that is a violation of the second commandment. Neither are they permitted to lie, because that is a violation of the ninth commandment. By extension, the walls of the city represent the law of God as a whole.

In John 10:1-3 Jesus said,

1 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbs up some other way, he is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is a shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name, and leads them out.

Jesus continued, saying in John 10:7, “I am the door of the sheep.” The wall is the law of God, which keeps out those who are unwilling to enter through the gate, or Door, which is Jesus Christ. To climb over the wall is to bypass the Door. One cannot enter the Kingdom in a lawless manner. The New Jerusalem does not have “open borders” until the Kingdom fills the whole earth, as prophesied in Daniel 2:35.


The Borderless Kingdom

The expansion of the Kingdom is clearly progressive over time. In the Tabernacles Age to come, the Stone Kingdom will start out relatively small and will then grow until it fills the whole earth. In other words, the border wall of the Kingdom will move outward as other nations are won to Christ and proclaim Jesus Christ as King.

At the end of the thousand years, however, there will still be certain nations (called “Gog and Magog” in Revelation 20:8) that will be outside the borders of the Kingdom. These will be inspired to declare war on the Kingdom of God, and this will give God legal cause to conquer them and to take their land. That will complete the Kingdom’s takeover of the earth, for then all who live in Kingdom territory—that is, the entire earth—will be required to swear allegiance to King Jesus and to conform to His laws.


The Final Phase of Kingdom Expansion

That will be the point where the Kingdom enters a new phase in its march toward universal reconciliation. Once all of the living have become Kingdom citizens, the focus turns toward the dead, that is, the past generations who have died without Christ. The Great White Throne is set up at that point, and all of the dead are summoned for judgment. Then every knee will bow and every tongue will confess (profess) Christ to the glory of God, as Isaiah and Paul tell us. They will become citizens of the Kingdom, but yet they will have to learn righteousness through the judgments of the fiery law (Isaiah 26:9). They will need to grow to spiritual maturity, even as all of us have had to grow through the Holy Spirit’s baptism of fire.

So those new believers at the Great White Throne will be placed under “tutors and governors” (Galatians 4:2 KJV) who will teach them the laws of God by personal example. The “river of fire” in Daniel 7:10 is the decree of divine judgment coming from the throne of God. The “lake of fire” in Revelation 20:14, 15 is the aftermath of the “river.” That is, the lake is the state in which these former unbelievers learn to conform to the laws of God while under the authority of the sons of God. It is “the fiery law” of Deuteronomy 33:2 KJV, which is the expression of the nature of God Himself. So Deuteronomy 4:24 says,

24 For the Lord your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.

The Hebrew word for jealous is qanna, whose root word is qana, “to be zealous.” It is the word used in the prophecy in Psalm 69:9, “For zeal for Thy house has consumed me.” This was quoted in John 2:17 after Jesus cast the money changers from the temple. John used this incident to explain the first of eight signs in the book of John at the marriage feast of Cana (qana).

Qana pictures God being provoked to jealousy and anger, and His response is to cleanse His house (temple). That is what the fire of God does. He works to cleanse the earth until all have conformed to His image. When all have been subdued to Christ and there are no more enemies to reconcile, then God will be “all in all” (1 Corinthians 15:26, 27, 28), and the divine purpose for creation will be complete.


What Does This Teach Us?

Once we understand the divine plan and the law of God, we can begin to apply those principles to the present time. As Kingdom citizens and children of God, we work to establish the authority of Jesus Christ in the earth. The USA was founded originally under God, who is said to be the author of all natural rights, according to the Declaration of Independence. In other words, there are no rights unless one can find them in Scripture.

Further, the law itself is largely about defining the rights of God and men. As Creator, God has the ultimate right over all that He labored to create. Man has rights under God according to his level of authority. But no one has the right to sin, i.e., violate the law (1 John 3:4). Sin is a matter of violating the rights of others (God or man).

America was founded during the reign of “Saul,” and so it was too soon for it to succeed in its lofty goal of manifesting the Kingdom of God. There were certain fatal flaws inherent in the constitution, particularly in its continuance of kidnapping and human trafficking (slavery). But the most important factor was that it was too soon to see the manifestation of the sons of God through the fulfillment of the feast of Tabernacles.

Without a perfect government to teach and enforce the laws of God, and to extend natural rights to all races, the nation violated the laws of the impartial God of Scripture. God judged the nation by subjecting it to Mystery Babylon in 1913-1914, and the Babylonians then imposed their “values” upon the nation and encouraged immorality in the name of “freedom.”

Once we reached the apex of immorality through “gay rights,” we reached the bottom and became like Sodom and Gomorrah, as prophesied in Isaiah 1:9 KJV. Yet Isaiah also makes it clear that the “remnant” (KJV term), that is, the sons of God, would make a difference and prevent us from experiencing the fate of Sodom and Gomorrah.

That is where we come in, for we are called to make a difference. That is why we have conducted spiritual warfare on behalf of America and the world. We will win in the end.

But recently, we have seen a final push by the falling Babylonian empire to complete their takeover of the world and to unite the world through open borders. Their plan is also to destroy Christianity itself by importing Muslims and by then supporting Sharia law wherever possible in order to replace the remaining laws of God that are still on the books.

God is showing us plainly what our future would be without the laws of the Kingdom. God’s goal, as I have already shown, is to bring all immigrants into the Kingdom of God. However, the wall of the New Jerusalem is necessary to vet those who want to enter. This basic principle is President Trump’s stated position. He is not against immigration. He just wants to keep out the criminals among them, and the only way to do this is to build a wall and force every immigrant to come in through one of the gates, where they can be vetted.

Even this plan has its flaws, because many criminals have never been caught, so there is no record of bad behavior. Even good border guards are not as capable as the angels of God. Even so, this system as a whole is biblical. When the Pope calls the border wall “immoral” and “unchristian,” he shows his lawless nature, for the wall represents the law itself.

The Pope is either totally blind or he is working actively to destroy the Christian foundations of the Western countries and the Church itself. Has someone infiltrated the Roman Church with the purpose of destroying it? Is Pope Francis the final pope in the prophecies of St. Malachi? Is he the one who is overseeing the destruction of the Roman Church?

Time will tell.

Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/09/19 08:44 AM

My comment : Very encouraging development in Europe, primary France, with the yellow vest protesters.

Yellow Vest protesters call for bank runs

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...-for-bank-runs/
Jan 08, 2019
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The US mainstream news seems to have put a moratorium on the Yellow Vest protests in France. That, of course, is a clear indicator that these protests run contrary to the Rothschild-controlled European governments and are not being instigated by them.

The protests have not died down, as the media would like us to think. In fact, the protests have increased, and now there are reports of police beating protesters, kicking them, and dragging them off by the hair.

So now the protesters are planning to hit them where it hurts the most—the banks. If all of the protesters withdraw their money from the banks, the banks will collapse very quickly.

https://www.dailycrusader.com/2019/01/fr...urrency-system/

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PARIS, France – The “Gilet Jaunes” protesters, fed up with increasing control from the French government including tyrannical policing of peaceful protesters and new “Martial Law” rules enacted to hamstring the protesters (which includes a leaked plan to confiscate ALL firearms from French citizens, as reported by the Clover Chronicle), are now planning a “bank run” which would see most French civilians withdrawing all of their funding from France’s banks.

French banks, which already run on a “Fractional Reserve” system, are estimated to have less than 1/4th of the funds on hand needed to satisfy a bank run conducted by citizens in the city of Paris alone – let alone the entire French nation. This has the potential to completely tank the Euro if the protesters manage to pull it off.

The speculation has led to widespread panic among the Zionist Elites who run Europe’s central banks.


I am quite sure that a bank run like this would simply close the banks and allow them to steal the money with the blessing of Macon’s government. That would simply make people angrier than they already are, escalating the crisis. But meanwhile, this could also push the euro into a downward spiral and threaten a lot of banks that are already teetering on the brink.

This idea could easily spread to other European countries like Germany and the UK, and this would affect the whole world. We need to watch this situation closely, especially since the mainstream media wants us to look the other way.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/09/19 09:57 PM

My comment : Here's the latest news about Ruth Ginsburg, supreme court judge.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg, her purpose and legacy

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...ose-and-legacy/
Jan 8th, 2019

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the 85-year-old Supreme Court Justice who was appointed by President Clinton in 1993, is in very poor health and is widely expected to step down soon. The Supreme Court has been hearing cases this week, but Ginsburg has not been present.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ruth-b...-row/ar-BBRY0x7

Meanwhile, the mainstream press is ever hopeful that she will recuperate and live forever.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati...0107-story.html

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Appointed by President Bill Clinton in 1993, Ginsburg rebuffed suggestions from some liberals that she should step down in the first two years of President Barack Obama's second term, when Democrats controlled the Senate and would have been likely to confirm her successor.

She already has hired clerks for the term that extends into 2020, indicating she has no plans to retire.


Actually, this is causing panic in the Deep State, because Trump is sure to replace her with someone that is utterly different. Perhaps the most likely candidate is Amy Coney Barrett, who was on the short list along with Brett Kavanaugh last year.

I believe that Judge Amy Barrett was saved to be Ginsburg’s replacement. When this happens, the Supreme Court changes will affect the next generation, with or without Donald Trump.

http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/07/potential-nominee-profile-amy-coney-barrett/

Meanwhile, Q has focused a lot of attention on Ginsburg, suggesting that she is not as well as is being reported in public. He has drawn our attention to her 230-page book entitled, Sex Bias in the U.S. Code, published in 1977 by the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. This book has been the model for the Babylonian Deep State in the destruction of the biblical family. It was for this purpose, in fact, that Bill Clinton appointed her in 1993.

http://humanevents.com/2005/08/23/senators-overlooked-radical-record-of-ruth-bader-ginsburg/

Ginsburg has advocated reducing the age of sexual consent to the age of 12, probably using the old Roman law code as her model (p. 102). Roman law established 12 as the minimum age for a girl to marry, but in practice, by age 11, ten percent of girls were already married and 44 percent by the age of 14.

On page 101, she advocated abolishing all single-sex institutions, including prisons, unless they integrated male and female inmates—supposedly to prepare inmates for life in the real world. What could possibly go wrong there?

She advocated merging the Boy Scouts and the Girl Scouts because they “perpetuate stereotyped sex roles” (p. 145). First, they were pressured into allowing gay boys and then gay scout leaders in 2013. In the end, lawsuits have brought them to bankruptcy. In December 2019 they hired a firm to help them prepare Chapter 11 bankruptcy, and I heard last night on the news that they had actually filed for bankruptcy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/boy-scouts-...its-11544649657

Ginsburg played a significant role in the destruction of a once-great organization in the name of obliterating the lines between boys and girls. She claims that equality will be achieved by destroying the distinctions between male and female. In reality, both are destroyed.

Ginsburg even wants to make Mother’s Day and Father’s Day illegal (p. 146).

She advocates legalizing bigamy and prostitution (p. 197) and takes offence at the Mann Act, which punishes those who engage in interstate sex traffic of women and girls (p. 98). She is thus a big advocate of sex trafficking, something that Bill Clinton could certainly appreciate. Bill Clinton is known to have traveled on the “Lolita Express” 26 times to visit Jeffrey Epstein’s “Orgy Island.” Even Hillary Clinton visited his island 5 times. Many wealthy pedophiles and pedovores have gone there to do unmentionable things at Epstein’s temple.

To enculturate her views into Babylonian society, Ginsburg listed hundreds of “sexist” words that must be eliminated from all statutes, such as: man, woman, manmade, mankind, husband, wife, mother, father, sister, brother, son, daughter, etc. (p. 15, 16).

She even wanted to change the English language, dropping pronouns such as: he, she, him, her, his, and hers (p.52, 53).

Of course, she advocates that taxpayer-funded abortions should be a constitutional right. She obviously does not believe the Declaration of Independence, which states that all rights come from God alone. Our Constitution was written under the authority of the Declaration.

Q then raises some interesting questions about her health care:

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Who are the doctors 'currently' treating [RBG]?
What other political [former/current] sr. political heads are they affiliated w/?
What 'off-market' drugs are being provided to [RBG] in order to sustain minimum daily function?
What is the real medical diagnosis of [RBG]?
Who is managing her care?
Who is 'really' managing her care?
The clock is ticking.
PANIC IN DC.
Q


By asking about the “off-market drugs” that are sustaining “minimum daily function,” Q is letting us know that Ginsburg is secretly on life-support. Normally, when Q asks two questions in a row, such as “Who is… and “Who is REALLY…” he generally suggests that the CIA is secretly involved in the background. It appears that the Deep State is trying to postpone her death or retirement, trying to find a way to hold on to power in the Supreme Court.

National Emergency Declaration

Recall that the government was partially shut down two weeks ago, due to a dispute over funding for the border wall. Q has been telling us (or strongly suggesting) that President Trump intends to declare national emergency at some point, and that “border security” will be the excuse to do this. On January 6 he tweeted: “I may declare a national emergency, dependent on what’s going to happen on the next few days.”

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1081981310699229184

I think we can count on him doing this. Q comments on this, saying: “Anons knew?” Those who follow Q have understood for months that this is the plan. There is enough money in the military budget that was passed months ago to pay for the wall, but Trump gave Congress opportunity to fund it first.

Q has also told us that the wall was not primarily to stop illegal immigrants or even criminals from entering but to stop human trafficking and drug smuggling, which is a far worse problem than most people realize.

If you want to learn many secrets from behind the scenes, you can get a lot by listening to what Kevin Shipp has to say. As an ex-CIA officer, now turned whistle-blower, he has a lot of first-hand knowledge of secret programs that the Deep State has been doing to us over the years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTP6OPw4qfk
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/11/19 10:58 PM

My comment : Greg Hunter's Jan 11 weekly wrapped up is very good. Behind the scenes the word is they are about to make the next major step in the process of the Global Economic Restructure. Greg's sources (Jim Sinclair & Greg Marrino), the same with Jim @ goldenJackass, says there's many steps that will be taken to cancel some of the countries debts (==Jubilee).

This morning Jim Sinclair said to Greg this morning :"The reset has begun. The last man standing will be gold and silver only. Currencies will survive for commerce but gold and silver will be your only storehouses of value. THIS IS WATERSHED EVENTS THAT WILL BE HERALDING THE BIRTH OF THE FIRST RESET."

8 Major world leaders(US, China, Russia,...) has recently met addressing the above. The second you-tube video(IPOT) also confirms this.

and many other weekly geopolitical news is covered in theses two videos.



Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/17/19 10:12 PM

News of Interest
https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2019/01-2019/news-of-interest/
Jan 17, 2019

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The Pope says The US needs to be under world government “for its own good.”

https://prophecyinthenews.com/world_news...their-own-good/

President Trump’s shutdown of the government may be designed to trap the Deep State. After 30 days (January 20) he can fire the SES (Senior Executive Service) that was formed decades ago to rule America. They are the true “Deep State,” or secret government. Otherwise, the SES cannot be fired.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/trumps_shutdown_trap.html

Did you know that the CIA has a “venture fund” which has covertly financed certain corporations such as Google and Facebook in order to spy on American citizens?

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-12/classified-most-powerful-investor-you-never-heard

This was even mentioned by Business Insider.

https://www.businessinsider.com/cia-vc-firm-conflict-of-interest-2016-8

Did you know that Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church, which has pushed Christlam, is a “Notable Member” of the Council on Foreign Relations? You have to scroll down a long way to the Notable Members list here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Members_of_the_Council_on_Foreign_Relations
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/19/19 02:33 PM

The Christlam Movement

https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...t-of-christlam/

Jan 18, 2019

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This article is not in English, but it shows the pope’s logo near the top, and the Christlam logo can be seen later in the article. This suggests that the pope is actually the motivating force behind the Christlam movement that attempts to unite Islam with Christianity.

https://www.tiemposprofeticos.org/para-l...al-del-crislam/


More details about the Christlam movement : https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/...rn-counterfeit/
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/21/19 07:26 PM

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Did you know that the CIA has a “venture fund” which has covertly financed certain corporations such as Google and Facebook in order to spy on American citizens?

And everyone was amazed at the start that Google, which had no real worth, kept soaring.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/24/19 11:18 PM

The major social media are loosing credibility to customers in the Western countries. I would imagine that many Eastern countries doesn't trust it either.

Now Google via the CIA moved to China. I don't believe those with the deep state of China will be successful as Trump's indictment will take control over these American compagnies and make them a public owned domaine with no spying. Another word... it will change.

As all other component of the corrupt Mystery Babylon Debt system; first the mass needs to be aware of the corruptness; second bring to justice this corruptness; and third gradually implement the changes to a better new multinational economic system.
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/26/19 07:36 PM

My comment : two videos about the recent crumbling down of MSM because of fake news and spreading false defamation.



Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/27/19 04:00 PM

My comment : Their was a lot of false reporting on the recent event of the defammation of the MAGA kids peaceful protest. The SGT report makes notes that they were protesting against the new abortion laws that allows any woman for any health reason to abort a child even at late term up to before birth.



Greg Hunter's weekly wrap report reported on this abortion bill that was passed last week; but Greg didn't make the connection with the MAGA kids peaceful protest purpose.

Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/28/19 08:33 PM

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Now Google via the CIA moved to China. I don't believe those with the deep state of China will be successful as Trump's indictment will take control over these American compagnies and make them a public owned domaine with no spying. Another word... it will change.
I must be not understanding what you are saying, but I understood that the government contracts with Google to spy. Trump is part of government, right?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/28/19 09:44 PM

There's a Deep State infiltration into the government of all countries. Yes Trump is part of the government; but not the Deep State. Trump is working in removing the Deep state (aka cleaning up the swamp) from the US government.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/29/19 07:08 PM

So you think after the cleanup, the government will not spy on its citizens? You really believe that?
Posted By: Elle

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/30/19 05:43 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
So you think after the cleanup, the government will not spy on its citizens? You really believe that?

Spying on the citizens is a criminal offence. They are proposing to make all social media as public own. If these organization spy on the public ... well the public will eventually find out and hopefully demand change. I'm sure there will be more corruption coming out that will need to be address in the futur. I don't expect everything to run smootly at first. It takes time.
Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 01/31/19 01:04 AM

While I may have a false sense of security thinking private companies may not "readily" share my data with the government, I'm afraid making social media "public" does not in any way make me feel safe nor secure.
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/24/19 08:22 AM

Dearest Elle,

I shall miss our lively discussions:
your insights over which we would so often contend,
your studious presentations that showed so well, how you loved the Word.
Though, at times we would disagree, the fruit of God’s Spirit was plain to see:
your patience, your gentleness, your kind gift of time, the hours of labor spent to share what you believed and the ache in your heart for each lost soul yet to be found.

For one small moment, sleep in peace. And, you will wake to touch His face:
the One who loves you most. At last, in the Light and Love of His grace,
you and I both shall see, no longer through dark glass. And then, perhaps we’ll laugh
together at how blind we were, and how very much eternity has yet to teach us...

I miss you Marie-Mai,
my Sister, my friend.


Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/25/19 02:28 PM

Keeping in mind, I recently read comments on an obituary. You could have said, "To all, I shall miss the lively discussions I had with Elle". But your comment comes across as attempting to communicate with Elle. You aren't attempting that, are you?
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/25/19 09:39 PM

Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Dearest Elle,

...

Though, at times we would disagree, the fruit of God’s Spirit was plain to see:
your patience, your gentleness, ...


That's a VERY interesting confession.

It opens wide the door for all Christians, no matter their denomination, to claim membership in the Church of Christ, the body of believers. And if of that Church, then where is the boast of SDA? And what advantage is there in being SDA? Nothing! For all are accounted under sin and salvation is NOT dependent on knowledge, but is the gift of God to anyone who believes in Him to whom He freely gives His spirit.

Therefore, may it nevermore be urged upon the people, "Ye must this instant be SDA, lest ye perish! And the sabbath shall be thy salvation. Thou shalt not eat the kindly cow, nor the contented chicken; and see thou leavest the fish to swim. Soya chunks shall be thy daily bread; and harken not unto the Beast which is the Pope."

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Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 02/26/19 06:07 PM

James, to you believe those who are saved, do not keep the commandments of God?
Posted By: ProdigalOne

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/09/19 08:43 AM

Kland, I said she would "sleep in peace". I don’t blame you for being obtuse, but at least attempt to show some sensitivety.

James, "by their fruits ye shall know them". "If ye love me, keep my commandments".
I know, you feel your mission on this site is to attack Adventists whenever possible; however, your vulgar displays of insensitivity only serve to manifest the satanic spirit that guides you.

Kland and James, you have both taken the death of a sweet lady, and my words of fond remembrance, loss, and hope, as an opportunity for aggression. Although, your responses were to be expected from two individuals so bereft of fruit, your words still caused me pain and made me feel sadder and more alone.
I suppose, I should thank you both for reminding me to put my faith in no man.
To God alone will I cling.
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/09/19 09:15 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
James, to you believe those who are saved, do not keep the commandments of God?

Nobody keeps the commandments of God to perfection. Jesus said so.

He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee (aka SDA) and the other a tax collector (aka Ordinary Man).

The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, 'God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.'

And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me a sinner!'

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”

--- Jesus Christ, Luke 18:9-14

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If no one is righteous, then where is the boast of the Pharisee (aka SDA)?
Rather, the evidence of love among the believers is what matters. 1 Corinthians 13

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Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/11/19 06:35 PM

James, do you believe those who are saved, should have as a goal, or as a result of being saved, of keeping the commandments of God?

Do you believe the tax collector had as a goal to stop sinning?
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/12/19 06:16 AM

Originally Posted By: kland
James, do you believe those who are saved, should have as a goal, or as a result of being saved, of keeping the commandments of God?

Do you believe the tax collector had as a goal to stop sinning?

OF COURSE!

Jesus told the woman caught in adultery, "Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more." John 8:11. And of Himself, He said, "He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him." John 8:29.

However, knowing human nature, and the state into which we have fallen, John encourages us this way, "My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous. And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world." 1 John 2:1-2

It is that sense of weakness in ourselves, the realization of our own frailty, that checks our indignation when we're tempted to raise our voices in condemnation. Paul expresses it beautifully this way: "We do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but [ONE -- Jesus Christ, The Righteous, who] was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need." Heb. 4:15-16.

Our goal is NOT self-righteousness -- nirvana that will elude us to the day we die -- but mercy and grace from our God; and freely we receive, we as freely give.

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Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/12/19 05:47 PM

So if we should have a goal of stop sinning, how does that affect our daily lives?
Posted By: James Peterson

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/12/19 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: kland
So if we should have a goal of stop sinning, how does that affect our daily lives?

"... Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need." Heb. 4:15-16.

As Paul cries, "O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? I thank God — through Jesus Christ our Lord!" Rom. 7:24-25. Our goal is NOT self-righteousness -- nirvana that will elude us to the day we die -- but mercy and grace from our God; and freely we receive, we as freely give.

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Posted By: kland

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure - 03/13/19 05:03 PM

It sounds like you are saying to have a goal of stop sinning is the same as self-righteousness? That we should not worry about sinning?
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