Climategate

I don't know if this is the proper place to post this. Maybe someone will enlighten me.

Has anyone read some of the emails in the climategate scandal?
It appears that there are many people suppressing truth in this global warming debate.

Thanks for introducing this subject.
Indeed there is a lot of things suppressed in the global warming debates.

These Copenhagen talks taking place right now are a most alarming trend into a one world government. Those pushing for a binding Copenhagen treaty using the global warming theory are after money. Their exaggerated green concern is a plan to have governments put enormous burdens upon the taxpayer in the middle of a recession and further to totally destroy the advantages of "the richer" nations.

While common sense guidelines to anti-pollution are needed, the way things are going the economy of our countries will be destroyed.

Canada's economy, should they bind themselves into these agreements, will be utterly ruined. Canada's means of making money greatly curtailed, while the people are taxed to the breaking point to meet the demand to ship out billions of dollars to greedy third world leaders.

It's true, dedication, that global government is on the agenda. As Adventists we have known of this coming prophecy for generations.

But the economy of Canada is already ruined. Third world leaders have no control or influence to call the shots, for they are merely (smaller) pawns alongside Harper and Obama. When the U.S. approved a $700B bank bailout, Stephen Harper passed a cool $75 Billion to Canadian banks, but never invited public scrutiny, so little was heard.

In all things secular, one must ask, cui bono? - Who benefits? The love of money is the root of all evil (1 Timothy 6:10) and this is the driving force for those not fully surrendered to God. Yes, "the merchants of the earth shall weep" (Revelation 18:11) because they do not realize their finite power. God controls all, and the kings of the earth shall bewail while standing afar off, "Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come." (Revelation 18:9,10)

In plain language, the rich men (merchants) and their appointed leaders (kings of the earth), still believe they're in charge, though directed by Rome. This rule will come to an end because it cannot sustain the Royal Law: God is Love. Mankind's experiment with self-government has failed because we have lived for self, instead of for God and our fellow man. Consumption is our driving force, while with Christ, His desire was to give, not to take.

When direction comes from Rome, her daughters follow. The Lamb leads a smaller number.

Wow this place is sure different than that other place run by my friend Stan.

People are awake here. I suspect there are many who read their bibles daily also.

What do you think? If North America switched over to non-fossil fuel sources of heat and transportation would it bankrupt us? Or, could we survive the transition and be better off in the end?

PS - This assumes Jesus will not return before we are forced to deal with it.

The concern isn't simply about "switching to non-fossil fuel". To move into less pollution is a good thing!

Also, I don't think Canada was a big "pawn" in the game. Canada is simply sitting in the shadow of the USA.



The issues are on a different scale --

The real issue is just how much the cause of Global Government was advanced by Copenhagen, not how much "Global Warming" was set back.

Had the conference been successful it would have set up a global government structure, and introduced taxation to finance that structure. How much of that was accomplished?

Also, no leader at Copenhagen mentioned “Climategate”, the leaked files from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia that categorically shows the data, methods and entire process of the IPCC were deliberately and criminally falsified.

It confirmed climate was the vehicle in their attempt to achieve one-world socialist government, ( a redistribution of wealth, with central economic control) not a realistic "save the world" endeavor.

Interestingly -- the week the Copenhagen meetings began we experienced RECORD cold temperatures -- like 40 below zero in our part of Canada.



We can thank God, in His mercy to his faithful, struggling, praying children that His four angels are working on overtime.
The last moments of Divine mercy are slipping into eternity, the world is heading into the darkness of global tyranny.

Do the prophecies depict the USA waning and losing its superpower status?

Prophecy predicts the USA setting up a system "in the sight of the beast," that will force (compel) the whole world (not just the USA) to worship the beast. And they will use economic controls to do so. (Rev. 13)

Prophecy also shows a beast with ten horns, and these ten horns give their power to beast (Rev. 17)

Does this mean the USA will cease being a superpower?

When the USA places itself under the mandate of the papal agenda, giving its power to further papal aims, national ruin is the result.



The leaders of this world are working with Rome. Rome has positioned herself as the peacemaker in the world and she intends to work with the Obama Administration to reduce or even resolve some of the greatest issues.

And what about "Sunday laws"?
There are several statements showing the papal drive to for sunday legislatuon.

Seems like the Dali Lama occupies the place of world peace advocate. The current pope seems irrelevant.

Dedication, did you answer this question?

Yes, I did, but you must understand I'm not a prophet! So don't expect me to tell you exactly how this will all play out.

I do know prophecy shows the USA subjecting itself to the agenda of the papacy and the papacy using the power and might of the United States to achieve its ends.
Also that national ruin will come to the United States as it does this.

This is the means the papacy has used throughout history. This is what makes the much argued against date of 508 A.D. important.
According to scriptures the significence of the beginning of the 1290 years was that an army was given to the papacy at this point. (508) And yes, this is when the Franks offered their power and might (under the leadership of Clovis) to the papacy.

In the last days, the big power (superpower) that will inflict the papal agenda is the United States.
Yet, we also know that by doing so the United States will suffer National Ruin.



No, the Deli Lama does NOT supercede the papacy.
The Deli Lama may be a very influential person bringing in the mystical side of religion but
it is the sovereignty of the papacy which allows nations to accredit ambassadors and conduct treaties with the Holy See. Microscopic though it is, it is the political independence of the Vatican that gives the pope more real clout than the Dalai Lama. The Vatican has its men in the advisory positions of every political power -- especially in the USA.

When the United States repudiates the principles of its constitition (something that is being chiseled away at in alarming fashion in our time) and America throws her weight behind instituting the New World Order, freedom will be gone from the earth. There will be no United States to escape to, no United States Constitution, no Bill of Rights, and no guarantees of freedom of any kind. The USA will not have lost power, but will have placed its power under the will of the papacy, who already today has her men in high office positions throughout America to push all those bills that clearly violate the constitions, pushed into law.

Thank you for answering my question. I agree the USA will lead the world in enforcing the MOB. There is no clear indication this will happen any time soon. However, given the right catalyst, it could start to play out practically over night. Some think Jesus will return within a few years thereafter.

What other religious leader has all other religions bowing to him?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6QlFM_-Eao

What other religious leader has ambassadors and other politically influencial agents in every high government?

What other religious leader has presidents meeting them at the airport and giving them red carpet treatment?

Headlines like:
"Israel prepares red carpet welcome for Pope Benedict XVI"
"RELIGION: Bush rolls out red carpet for Pope Benedict XVI"
"Jordan rolls out red carpet for Pope Benedict"

The USA may NOT LEAD the world to enforce "Sunday worship". The USA may simply be the power USED to put real teeth into the enforcement of Sunday.
The Protestants in America under the delusion that this is "what God wants" will support the Papacy.

We may have too narrow a view on this while prophecy is being fulfilled left and right and we sit back and think "it won't happen soon" because the USA isn't doing exactly what we think it will do in the end. All the while it IS fulfilling the role predicted.


SUNDAY LEGISLATED ISN'T JUST SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE --

Do a study on Sunday legislature in the EU
in Coatia, in Germany...