Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017

Posted By: dedication

Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/18/17 05:54 AM

On Monday, August 21, 2017, a total solar eclipse will be visible in totality within a band across the entire contiguous United States and Canada.

It is the first in 99 years to cross over the entire country from coast to coast.

Be sure to get proper eye protection and watch this awesome event Monday.

https://eclipse2017.nasa.gov/
Posted By: dedication

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/22/17 06:05 AM

Well, it happened. Americans were able to watch the sun disappear in mid-day. At least those in the path it took across the states. All classes of people seemed to turn out to watch.

We watched it some as well -- but being too far north the moon only blocked out part of the sun, -- it didn't darken our bright and sunny day at all. It was interesting, but not particularly spectacular.

The "prophets" have been busy predicting all sorts of warnings that the eclipse supposedly forewarned.

And it's true that things are pretty ripe for all manner of trouble -- it may be a warning to America of trouble ahead -- though probably differently then they predict.
Posted By: dedication

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/22/17 06:12 AM

But the same "prophets" also point to another event to happen over the next nine months -- I don't put much stock into their predictions of the "virgin" constellation of Virgo, giving birth to "Jupiter". But apparently this is the year Jupitor passes through the are of Virgo. But since things line up so the constellation of "Leo" is somewhere above her head, which they call her "crown" and virgo will be in the direction from which the sun rises, and the moon at some point is at her feet -- they say that this is the fulfillment of Rev. 12.

BUT Revelation 12 is Christ coming and being born. The woman represents God's people -- his church.

Revelation 12 is not about Jupiter -- or about some constellation in the sky that someone's imagination a long time ago thought looked a little like a woman == and a virgin at that.

Also, the sun rising from the direction of Virgo isn't that unusual, nor is it unusual for the moon to be near to what some refer to as her feet.

The planet Jupiter is in the constellation of Virgo about every 12 years, so that's not that unusual either.

This means that Jupiter appears in the part of Virgo corresponding to her womb, along with the sun in Virgo and the moon at her feet for a day or two every 12 years or so. The last time this happened was in 2005.

It's not some 'great wonder in the heavens"
in fact most people would never see it, or be aware of it, if it weren't drawn out by some imaginative people on the internet.

What is more --
Jupiter is a "pagan" god -- his legendary exploits sound a lot like what satan would do. Dethroning his father to become the chief 'god". A "god" of war.

Why would anyone think the child that is 'caught up to God" in the Bible would be the pagan Jupiter?


These sorts of claims or intimations have been made many times before. For instance, the four lunar eclipses during 2014–2015 caused many people to anticipate things that never took place.

I'm not saying there is no trouble ahead --
The Lord can use the rise of awareness that the end is near that these people are generating, because the end is near!!!

However, a lot of it is simply speculative opinions, not grounded on God's word.

I believe when we see "great signs in the heaven" we will SEE something very visible and out of the ordinary, not something that occurs naturally every so often and scientists can predict to the hour, nor will be something that won't take someone drawing it up on a computer before the multitudes will even know it is in the sky.

Posted By: Alchemy

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/22/17 12:55 PM

Very interesting indeed. I appreciate your clarification of what Revelation 12 really represents.

God does use signs in the sun and stars, but, these are not the signs associated with these last days.

Personally, I believe the earthquake in Indonesia was a sign for these last days. Maybe not as powerful and the Lisbon earthquake, but, very powerful and deadly.

I also believe all those blood moons and asteroid showers in 2014 and 2015 were also signs for these last days. Sister White said some of those signs would be repeated.
Posted By: kland

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/23/17 01:39 AM

Alchemy, what about those moons did you think were "blood"? There were only three total eclipses until the hype got going and then timeanddate changed it. And the last eclipse was at or after daybreak. Not very dramatic at all, if anyone saw it and only possible in a limited part of the world, and except for the overactive "imaginative people on the internet" no one would notice.

And what were "those" signs that Ellen White said would be repeated, how did they compare in 2014 and 2015?
Posted By: dedication

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/23/17 05:19 AM

Quote:
We are standing on the threshold of great and solemn events. Prophecies are fulfilling. Strange and eventful history is being recorded in the books of heaven--events which it was declared should shortly precede the great day of God. Everything in the world is in an unsettled state. The nations are angry, and great preparations for war are being made. Nation is plotting against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. The great day of God is hastening greatly. But although the nations are mustering their forces for war and bloodshed, the command to the angels is still in force that they hold the four winds until the servants of God are sealed in their foreheads.--Ms 117, 1908. {3MR 313.1}
Posted By: kland

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/24/17 04:43 PM

Definitely the nations and people are angry!

But no mention of natural and predicted recurring events of shadows falling across the earth...
Posted By: dedication

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/25/17 09:04 AM

The Lord can use the rise of awareness that the end is near that these people are generating, because the end is near!!!

In the last two years -- there have been "falling stars" "red moons" "darkness at mid-day".
All three of the biblical signs.

Even if they aren't the major fulfillment of those signs -- are we wise to simply brush them aside? Are you so sure God isn't trying to "gently" wake people up.

Now--
I believe when we see "great signs in the heavens" we will SEE something very visible and out of the ordinary, not something that occurs naturally every so often and scientists can predict to the hour.
There will be wake up calls that are not so "gentle".
The wake up calls will get louder!
Posted By: dedication

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/25/17 09:21 AM

There will be great signs that will DECEIVE MANY:

According to "mary", who isn't Mary at all, but a spiritualistic identity impersonating her ---

These are the signs (in the heavens) those spiritualistic identities are planning:


THE FIRST ONE -- WARNING TO GET EVERYONE INTO THE CONFESSIONALS:
Just imagine the scenes as they are predicted by "Mary". You get up as usually on this particular morning, get yourself ready and drive off to work. When suddenly your car stalls, actually all the cars are stalled, and you seem to be in the middle of a horrific nightmare. Fearful sights of a super natural character are flashing across the sky. In horror you cover you face with your hands, but a brilliant light burns itself into your subconscious and its as if every evil deed you ever did flashes across your mind. In agony you groan, feeling sure you are lost. The lights fade, the sky returns to normal but all around people are wailing and crying. (Thunder of Justice 310-314)

WHAT does Mary have to offer at this point? According to the messages, people will not have a conscience that is cleansed by God's forgiveness and abiding presence, they will be loaded with terrible guilt. "Mary" will be promising relief if they consecrate themselves to her, confess their sins to the priest and pray the rosary.


To add emphases to the "warning"
in certain places people will appear to see
the sun spin in the sky and hurtle toward the earth, in more spectacular fashion then it did in Fatima in 1917.


A GREAT SIGN IN THE HEAVENS

Once again you notice it's getting dark outside, even though it's still in the middle of the day. The earth begins to shake. Trees crash to the ground. People think the world is ending. In terror, with guilt nearly crushing them. People rush outside in confusion. There , in the sky, the cross appears and from the wounds in the hands and the feet of Jesus will come forth great lights which will lighten up the earth for a period of time. The message goes to the people that Christ is full of mercy, all their sins will be forgiven if they repent of the materialistic, independent ways and submit to the authority of the church and listen to Mary, the mother of God , who is heavens special messenger to guide the world back to God.


The only problem is— the conversion is to Mary and Catholism. Says "Mary": "Pray very much the prayers of the rosary. I alone am able still to save you from calamities which approach. Those who place their confidence in me will be saved." (Thunder of Justice page 148) "Mary predicts a terrible crises if her requests are not sufficiently carried out."

That's according to "mary", the spiritualistic apparition who is not Mary at all. But she is referred to as a great revealer of prophecy.



Matt. 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


Posted By: kland

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/28/17 05:29 PM

Did ANYONE see a moon being red?
Posted By: dedication

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/29/17 04:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Kland
Did ANYONE see a moon being red?
If you live where forest fires are burning (like in Canada) you are in for seeing a red moon quite frequently -- also a red sun rising and setting.
Posted By: kland

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/29/17 05:03 PM

Ok, so frequently.

But your response seems to be avoiding and not being relevant to what was said. frown
Posted By: dedication

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/30/17 06:09 AM

As I said earlier --
I do not think the "wondrous signs in the heavens" the scripture is talking about are natural events, neither eclipses or forest fires.

However -- God can still use these "natural events" in the heavens to get people to consider that this old world won't last forever.

Posted By: dedication

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 08/30/17 07:18 AM

The Historic Dark Days were not eclipses!

Talking about the dark day of 1780 EGW writes:
Quote:
On the 19th of May, 1780, this prophecy was fulfilled. “Almost if not altogether alone as the most mysterious and as yet unexplained phenomenon of its kind, . . . stands the dark day of May 19, 1780,—a most unaccountable darkening of the whole visible heavens and atmosphere in New England.” That the darkness was not due to an eclipse is evident from the fact that the moon was then nearly full. It was not caused by clouds, or the thickness of the atmosphere, for in some localities where the darkness extended, the sky was so clear that the stars could be seen. Concerning the inability of science to assign a satisfactory cause for this manifestation, Herschel the astronomer declares: “The dark day in North America was one of those wonderful phenomena of nature which philosophy is at a loss to explain.” {GC88 306.1}


Also the darkness at the cross was not an eclipse

Quote:
"There was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour." There was no eclipse or other natural cause for this darkness, which was as deep as midnight without moon or stars. It was a miraculous testimony given by God that the faith of after generations might be confirmed. {DA 753.3}
Posted By: Josh M

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 09/02/17 07:41 AM

Originally Posted By: dedication
The Historic Dark Days were not eclipses!

Talking about the dark day of 1780 EGW writes:
Quote:
On the 19th of May, 1780, this prophecy was fulfilled. “Almost if not altogether alone as the most mysterious and as yet unexplained phenomenon of its kind, . . . stands the dark day of May 19, 1780,—a most unaccountable darkening of the whole visible heavens and atmosphere in New England.” That the darkness was not due to an eclipse is evident from the fact that the moon was then nearly full. It was not caused by clouds, or the thickness of the atmosphere, for in some localities where the darkness extended, the sky was so clear that the stars could be seen. Concerning the inability of science to assign a satisfactory cause for this manifestation, Herschel the astronomer declares: “The dark day in North America was one of those wonderful phenomena of nature which philosophy is at a loss to explain.” {GC88 306.1}


Also the darkness at the cross was not an eclipse

Quote:
"There was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour." There was no eclipse or other natural cause for this darkness, which was as deep as midnight without moon or stars. It was a miraculous testimony given by God that the faith of after generations might be confirmed. {DA 753.3}


Yeah, neither of those even could have been eclipses for two reasons.

First, an eclipse never lasts more than about seven and a half minutes and it's usually shorter depending on exactly where the earth and moon are in their orbits.

Second, as eluded to in the first quote, an eclipse is always around the new moon. A full moon requires the moon to be approximately on the opposite side of the earth from the sun, allowing us to see nearly the entire sunlit half of the moon. Passover is in the middle of a lunar month, which is when the full moon is, so the moon would have been on the wrong side of the earth for it to come between the sun and earth to eclipse the sun.
Posted By: dedication

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 09/03/17 03:29 AM

Agree!
The signs were not "natural events" but miraculous.
Posted By: dedication

Re: Solar Eclipse Aug.21, 2017 - 09/10/17 02:49 AM

A different perspective on this ==

as I was just listening to Andrew Henrriques
Shocking Prophetic Symbols in Solar Black Out.
He suggests symbolic meaning in the solar eclipse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFemh4thGgw&t=2866s

Sun symbolic of Christ.
Moon symbolic of papacy.

Christ is the light of the world.
John 8:12 Then spake Jesus saying, I am the light of the world: he that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
2 Cor. 4:4 The light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
Ps. 119:105 His Word is a lamp unto our feet and a light unto our path.
Pr. 6:2 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.


Papacy blocks out this light.

History reveals the papacy directs mankind to look to it's system in all these aspects.
Even to the cleansing of sin, and the keys to life.
They outlawed the Word (Bible) for centuries.
Claim they have the authority to change God's commandments and law.

They move to eclipse the light of Christ!

Prophecy reveals that this shadow will again fall across the nations.

Could lasts month's eclipse signify a great shadow is about to fall upon America?

As protestants link hands with the papacy, repudiating the Reformation for what it actually stood for, this union with the papacy will again block out the true light.

A works program will be reinstated to replace faith and grace.
But like all "dead works" that rely on what man can do to win the favor of the gods, instead of following the true light, it will substitute it's own formulas--
Sunday as the Lord's day.
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