Pope Francis ok with Same Sex Unions?

This cant be right, there must be some misunderstanding, or has the Pope really done this?

"Pope suggests blessings for same-sex unions may be possible

VATICAN CITY ? Pope Francis has suggested there could be ways to bless same-sex unions, responding to five conservative cardinals who challenged him to affirm church teaching on homosexuality ahead of a big meeting where LGBTQ+ Catholics are on the agenda.

The Vatican on Monday published a letter Francis wrote to the cardinals on July 11 after receiving a list of five questions, or "dubia," from them a day earlier. In it, Francis suggests that such blessings could be studied if they didn't confuse the blessing with sacramental marriage.

New Ways Ministry, which advocates for LGBTQ+ Catholics, said the letter "significantly advances" efforts to make LGBTQ+ Catholics welcomed in the church and "one big straw towards breaking the camel's back" in their marginalization."

https://www.npr.org/2023/10/03/1203...ings-for-same-sex-unions-may-be-possible



https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/02/world/francis-same-sex-unions-intl-latam/index.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nun-blessing-same-sex-couples-pope/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...e-sex-unions-catholic-priests-rcna118525

Should we be surprised by this? I'm not. He's a socialist through and through.

Socialist or fascist?
I'm not sure of the differences, but I think the latter.

There is no real difference between communism, fascism, and socialism. They are all forms of collectivism which is nothing more than centralized authority in which a very small group of people make all decisions for everyone. It's all totalitarianism.

I recently heard a definition of communism and fascism. The man explaining it said:

When the government controls business, it's communism
When business controls the government, it's fascism

I think that's the way he said it!

The problem with that is it ignores the the common background of all three collectivist ideologies. They are all totalitarianism.

Antifa is totalitarian. Look at their tactics.

I spent several years studying this topic and I believe God led me into that study as SDAs are woefully ignorant in this area. Karl Marx was a socialist and he and his sugar daddy Freidrich Engels wrote the Communist Manifesto. After Marx died Engels said they wrote the book and called it communism to separate themselves from the socialists who came before them.

In Hitler's writings he said a good socialist must be a racist as he was a socialist. He just added to the socialistic ideas the concept of nationalism. Today our actual form of government is very socialistic. The same terms are used to describe our government when it was a republic but the meanings of of the words have been redefined. It's why Christianity has been under such severe attack for decades as Christianity and liberty go hand in hand.

I had heard one definition that one (communism?) was when the government owned everything and told you what to do, and the other was when you owned the stuff, but the government told you how to use it. The Common Good.

Now he is allowing same sex marriages to be blessed, although it was declared to be sin before. Now it can be blessed...

Must be okay. Pope is infallible, you know.

Well now he is defending it, took me a while to find the report AGAIN as the search engines either block it or is it was possible the news sources are using the old, DONT ASK DONT TELL, idea to hide or not report it at all.

"ROME, Jan 15 (Reuters) - Pope Francis on Sunday defended a landmark decision approving blessings for same-sex couples, suggesting that those in the Catholic Church who have resisted it have jumped to "ugly conclusions" because they do not understand it. In a television interview, Francis made his first public comments since the Dec. 18 declaration sparked widespread debate in the Church, with bishops in some countries, particularly in Africa, refusing to let their priests implement it.
"Sometimes decisions are not accepted, but in most cases when decisions are not accepted, it is because they are not understood," Francis said in response to a specific question about the December declaration.

"The danger is that if I don't like something and I put it (the opposition) in my heart, I become a resistance and jump to ugly conclusions," he said during a link from his Vatican residence with the "Che Tempo Che Fa" program on Italy's Channel 9.
This is what happened with these latest decisions on blessings for all," he said, referring to the declaration known by its Latin title Fiducia Supplicans (Supplicating Trust). It was issued by the Vatican's doctrinal department and approved by him.

Since the original declaration, the Vatican has been at pains to stress that the blessings did not amount to an approval of gay sex and should not be seen as anything remotely equivalent to the sacrament of marriage for heterosexual couples.

But even a clarification earlier this month from the Vatican's doctrinal department did not sway bishops in Africa, where in some countries same-sex activity can lead to prison or even the death penalty.

They issued a letter last week saying the December declaration had caused "unrest in the minds of many" and could not be applied because of the continent's cultural context.

Some bishops in France told their priests they could bless gay individuals but not couples.

The Church teaches that gay sex is sinful and disordered and people with same-sex attractions should try to be chaste and the pope appeared to be alluding to this is his response.

"The Lord blesses everyone," Francis said. "But then people have to enter into a dialogue with the blessing of the Lord and see the path that the Lord proposes. We (the Church) have to take them by the hand and lead them along that path and not condemn them from the start".

Since his election in 2013, Francis has tried to make the Church, with its 1.35 billion members, more welcoming to LGBT people, without changing moral doctrine."

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ion-says-it-is-misunderstood-2024-01-15/

This clearly shows the Pope is on the "liberal" (for lack of a better word) side of the endtime game.
The side that's pushing the pendulum too far to the left so that it will swing with great force and support over to the so called "right" side.
Remember, Prophecy says it's the religious side that bring in the final crises.

We find the pope has much opposition to his radical leaning away from principle.


It's worth noting that even in the West, "Fiducia Supplicans" has been a controversial document -- so much so that conservatives have warned of a schism within the church over it. However, because the LGBT crowd has welcomed it, what people are hearing on media coverage has been mostly positive reactions, while the negative has been minimized. .


The whole thing contains a whole lot of double talk, with just enough restrictions on the giving of the blessing for them to say they aren't changing the Catholic church's stance on homosexuality.

Looks like there is resistance from some true believers...

'Some Catholic bishops reject Pope?s stance on blessings for same-sex couples. Others are confused

In an extraordinary pushback against Pope Francis, some Catholic bishops in Africa, Poland and elsewhere say they will not implement the new Vatican policy allowing blessings for same-sex couples.

Others downplayed the policy approved this week by Francis as merely reaffirming the Vatican?s long-standing teaching about marriage being only a union between a man and a woman.

The reactions show how polarizing the issue remains and how Francis? decade-long effort to make the church a more welcoming place for the LGBTQ+ community continues to spark resistance among traditionalist and conservative Catholic leaders...."

https://apnews.com/article/vatican-pope-francis-samesex-blessings-baabeaf96ad180aa20e1df9fb4b4657e

It is my opinion that the "exercise" is going well as planned. I believe it was in the following that made me think that this same sex stuff was created on purpose so that there would be a common enemy to solve for the common good.

This is what the papacy has planned in this end time.