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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: kland] #118766
09/04/09 02:45 PM
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I think the best "Vitamin" in these plagues is a healthy dose of Psalm 91.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Green Cochoa] #119032
09/11/09 06:54 AM
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Quote:
France to use swine flue to gut laws: report In case of a swine flu pandemic the French government has a plan to introduce emergency measures that would gut legal protections for citizens, the daily Liberation reported Tuesday.

According to documents provided to the daily by a judges' union, the plan would extend the period police can keep a suspect in detention without charge or a hearing before a judge to up to six months.

Suspects would also not be able to contact a lawyer until after spending 24 hours in custody.

Under the plan children could be tried in adult courts and more trials held behind closed doors.

The Syndicat de la Magistrature called the measures "revolting" and said they would amount to "liberticide," and called on Justice Minister Michele Alliot-Marie to abandon the plan.

The union was due to release on Tuesday the text of the government plan, which it said was provided to heads of courts in great secrecy in July, the newspaper reported.

Swine flu, or the A(H1N1) virus, the first pandemic to be declared by the World Health Organization in this century, has so far claimed 15 lives in France, out of at least 2,837 worldwide.

The French government has conducted extensive planning to prepare for an expected new wave of infections as the autumn flu season approaches in the northern hemisphere.

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: crater] #119066
09/12/09 02:00 AM
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Here is another take on the "N1H1 swine flu”
Quote:
. H1N1 October surprise prevention by Deborah Dupre
Global Research, August 22, 2009
The Examiner

The core essence of "Greater Things" is that there is always a better way to do things -- anything -- whether it be religion, politics, science, academia -- anything. To the extent that we get institutionalized and codified in a set belief system, is the extent that we inhibit the ability to grow and learn new and better ways. - Dr. Andrew Moulden.

A growing number of doctors, other health professionals and citizens are attempting to prevent the humanitarian disaster planned for this October when the new H1N1 vaccine is to be deployed in a grand scale, military, war on terror manoeuvre .

"Primum non nocere" ("First do no harm"), medical ethics standard attributed to Hippocrates that became obligatory for physicians prior to practicing medicine in the 4th century AD is still upheld by some doctors who oppose the worldwide October plan including what Global Research Director, Michel Chossudovsky warns is a military operation leading to global militarization control of individuals.

An under-reported first International Swine Flu Conference being held in Washington DC this weekend includes sessions on “conducting morgue operations,” “mass fatality planning” and “unwillingness to follow government orders,” and “training teachers to screen for symptoms …and “transport ill students.”(Jesse Woodrow, They have planned to take kids from schools for Mass Vaccinations and Quarantines WAKE UP!) (video)

Dr. Chossudovsky asserts that chilling reports such as those recently released in the UK about mass morgues are “totally fabricated” and “[t]here is absolutely no scientific evidence to support these claims.” (Michel Chossudovsky, Fear, Intimidation & Media Disinformation: U.K Government is Planning Mass Graves in Case of H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic, Global Research, August 21, 2009) (online)

“Realities are turned upside down. The British government is deliberately misleading the British public,” states Chossudovsky.

“There is ample evidence, documented in numerous reports, that the WHO's level 6 pandemic alert is based on fabricated evidence and a manipulation of the figures on mortality and morbidity resulting from the N1H1 swine flu,” he advises. (emphasis added)

CBS in London reported, “Experts estimate swine flu to be about as dangerous as seasonal flu, and there usually isn't a high demand for those vaccines.” (CBS, Gov'ts Worry About H1N1 Vaccine Contracts, London, July 16, 2009. (online)

“State and local public health planners,” however, “have been asked to plan for vaccine becoming available mid-October under the following scenarios: 40, 80, or 160 million doses becoming available from the 5 manufacturers (total) over approximately a one month period, followed by weekly amounts of 10, 20 or 30 million doses” according to the recent CDC report.

Barbara Loe Fisher is alerting the public to recognize that the flu is not the problem and that the dangerous vaccine and further removal of rights requires urgent public education and action to thwart the October plan.
Sherry Beal stated yesterday during the KPFK public radio “Health Planet, Health Me” program that H1N1 is by far the greatest issue impacting humanity than anything that has happened in her 25 years as a health science journalist, (KPFK Sherry Beal radio interview, “Healthy Planet Healthy Me, August 21, 2009) yet mainstream news has made little if any mention of the Washington DC conference ending today. (audio)

Deadly vaccines deployed this October

Numerous doctors and other health professionals agree with Alliance for Human Research Protection Director, Dr. Vera Sherav who stated in the KPFK interview yesterday that H1N1 vaccine has potential to rapidly and dangerously spread the disease.

“All vaccinations cause immediate and delayed, acute and chronic, permanent and transient, disease and disorders that cut across all organ systems,” states Dr. Andrew Moulden BA, MA, MD, PhD. (video)

War tactics of fear mongering war and media black-out on vaccine dangers and martial law is seemingly designed to cause ill-informed citizens to submit to the dangerous H1N1 vaccine.

Chossudovsky's August 19 Fear, Intimidation & Media Disinformation: U.K Government is Planning Mass Graves in Case of H1N1 Swine Flu Pandemic (online) report states:

"[A]mply documented and denied by Western governments, the proposed vaccines could result in more deaths than those caused by the H1N1 influenza, as confirmed by Britain's Health Protection Agency and the letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications.
Chossudovsky refers to the use of a similar swine flu vaccine in the United States in 1976 when:

* More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu.
* 500 cases of GBS were detected.
* The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times.
* The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with GBS became clear.
* The US Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected. (Mail on Sunday, August 16, 2009)

Code Red in effect now - martial law

Few choices will be allowed to citizens in the present Code Red Emergency, according to Barbara Loe Fisher, President National Vaccine Information Center. (video)

Massachusetts legislators have already passed pandemic influenza legislation legalizing entering homes without consent of occupants, quarantining without consent and abandoning free assembly of citizens.
The National Vaccine Information Center public vaccine education and advocacy watchdog, urges everyone to rapidly become informed about H1N1 ‘swine’ flu, vaccines and rights on freedom of choice, and to act upon them:

"As Dept of Homeland Security Officials are declaring that ‘any’ disease outbreak is a matter of ‘Homeland Security,’

As Dept of Defense are defining public demonstrations as ‘low-level terrorism,’

As plans are being made to designate 'selected US airports as quarantine centers through which all airplanes would be Re-routed for passenger health inspection;’
And as fast-tracked ‘experimental’ pandemic flu vaccines are being created to be given first to American children in schools:

It is time for all of us, whether public health doctors or ordinary citizens trying to protect our health; it is up to all of us to act in responsible and rational ways.” (Barbara Loe Fisher, 2009)
Mass public education about mass vaccination planned

Yesterday, Dr. Sherav agreed with knowledgeable ethical doctors globally: the "vaccine can absolutely spread the H1N1 ‘swine flu.'” (KPFK Sherry Beal radio interview, “Healthy Planet Healthy Me, August 21, 2009) (audio)

“This is no time to be a spectator, nor to hide in fear, and there's no sense in waiting until the worst possible scenario happens,” writes citizen action group, Vaccine Resistance Movement (VRM) coordinators, Wayne Prante and Joel Lord on the world's largest online social network, Face book. (online)

Through Facebook, VRM is leading a global “We’re Not Going To Take It” events next weekend, August 28th-30th.

“This is about the most basic of all human rights: control over our own bodies and health decisions,” VRM states.

Learn more, take responsible action, and keep asking, "Why?" and "Why not?" Subscribe below and see Dupre's website.

For more information H1N1 and about how you, your family and community can affect change by pressuring Congress to pass self-shielding legislation, see "Warning in the eye of the false flag storm" by Dupre, complete with community learning activities. Watch the edutaining, Video/Song: 'Trillion - Say No To The Vaccine. Want to write for the Examiner? Please email Dupre for more information about this opportunity. Keep the peace through responsible action and accountability.

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: crater] #119153
09/14/09 01:10 PM
09/14/09 01:10 PM
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This imaginary "pandemic" will disappear when nothing happens. But, if the vaccine itself causes something to happen, The Powers will be able to continue their experiments.

I recall watching a Star Trek show (amazing how images you see stay with you for decades), where they were captured by this planet run by women. The men were fed porridge which had a drug in it to make the men submissive. It was very hard to avoid the porridge. Once people started, they then were drugged and unable to exercise their will. The leaders also walked around enforcing compliance of eating the porridge. Of course the captain managed to avoid it and saved the day...

Just thought that was somehow relevant.

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: kland] #119399
09/18/09 06:32 AM
09/18/09 06:32 AM
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Here are links to MUST read / veiw on the swine flu.

Dr. Mercola and Dr. Russell Blaylock, M.D give some very interesting information, so education yourself!

This site has 4 video clips of ten min. each. You owe it to yourself to take the time to view and share with your family and friends.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/19/The-Truth-about-the-Flu-Shot.aspx

http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/

http://products.mercola.com/multivitamin-vital-minerals/?source=nl

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: crater] #119422
09/18/09 03:32 PM
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Hmm, I thought it interesting when he listed what a good supplement should contain only to follow up with, 'and I happen to be selling what I just told you that you need'. Oh well..


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: SWINE FLU [Re: vastergotland] #119430
09/18/09 04:56 PM
09/18/09 04:56 PM
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Thanks for the links, crater. A link from a link to a link, I somehow came across these:
http://www.etherzone.com/2006/stang112406.shtml
http://www.rense.com/general36/history.htm

And they aren't selling anything on that page, vaster. Lots of claims made which should easily be determined whether true or not. Perhaps you could go through some and tell us which are valid or invalid. The second link mentions experimentation on Adventists which I remember reading about in the Review.

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: vastergotland] #119435
09/18/09 05:26 PM
09/18/09 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: västergötland
Hmm, I thought it interesting when he listed what a good supplement should contain only to follow up with, 'and I happen to be selling what I just told you that you need'. Oh well..

Vaster,

Big pharma does not stand to profit much on over-the-counter Vitamins and supplements. It is genuinely difficult to find good quality ones these days. The FDA has largely left the supplements industry unregulated (a bit like bottled water), and when they have elected to regulate, it's usually to ban something altogether (like Tryptophan--a simple amino acid--when a few people died of allergic reaction to the shark impurities in some Tryptophan imported from Japan a few years ago).

Some doctors have taken to special ordering their own formulations of supplements for lack of any on the market which fit their style of medicine. For example, a doctor who prescribes a lot of supplements to his patients, a high percentage of whom have allergies, may find it difficult to obtain supplements free of milk, soy, wheat, citrus, etc. Many tablets use corn or wheat starch as the "filler." Citrus products are often the source of Vitamin C, yet many people are allergic to these things.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: SWINE FLU [Re: vastergotland] #119437
09/18/09 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: västergötland
Hmm, I thought it interesting when he listed what a good supplement should contain only to follow up with, 'and I happen to be selling what I just told you that you need'. Oh well..


Since your doctor is unlikely to tell you about it, and the government doesn't want you to take your money away from buying medicines, so that there is no commercial advertising for what is left of quality products these days - tested on the basis of personal testimonies and reports on natural supplements which likely need no testing as they aren't imbalaned by processing, comes from those who know what's good for you among the select few doctors brave enough to break with their professional body's opinion.

Good advice costs a lot, even ruined medical careers, perhaps, so he's being fair on his website: are you? wink

Give him a break for giving good advice, and be thankful for it, instead. smile

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Green Cochoa] #119441
09/18/09 05:59 PM
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Speaking of shark, I read that the Swine Flu vaccine was going to contain squalene.


Wow! Is this true?:
http://www.naturalnews.com/022816.html

The government references say they are spraying to control a moth. But this sounds so 60ish. Is this right for mass spraying anything over the population? Is this how it's going to be: Just spraying for lice. Nothing to worry about.


Just heard on the radio that the Swine Flu vaccine can be given in a nasal mist form.....

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