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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: crater] #90657
07/19/07 11:38 PM
07/19/07 11:38 PM
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Yes, crater, it is evident to me that EGW is referring to her writings as the lesser light and the Bible as the greater light.


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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Daryl] #90659
07/20/07 05:59 AM
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They contain the precious, comforting light that God has graciously given his servant to be given to the world. From their pages this light is to shine into the hearts of men and women, leading them to the Saviour. . . . Then she goes on to say, Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light.

I don't see how you gentlemen can read the above and miss the message. Note the equivalence. She first says that her writing work by "leading them to the Savior," then speaks of the lesser light "to lead men and women to the greater light." "Little heed is given to the Bible" is a clear reference to the statement by Jesus that the Scriptures "are they which testify of me." If men had given heed to the Bible they would have been led to the Savior and the lesser light would not have been needed.


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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #90661
07/20/07 02:13 PM
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Yes, in relation to Christ, He is the Greater Light and His followers are the lesser light, just as in relation to the writings of EGW in that quote, her writings are the lesser light and the Bible is the Greater Light.

Both in their different way represent the lesser light leading to the greater light.


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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Daryl] #90665
07/20/07 10:20 PM
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It is obvious that the most important thing is to be right. We will twist the language anyway we can to avoid saying, "I was wrong about this." That's too bad.


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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #90883
07/31/07 12:37 PM
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I guess that settles that.


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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #90902
07/31/07 07:52 PM
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I don't get your question about the scientific method.

Darius, I had said:
>>If I'm not mistaken, you believe that the Word of God is also in the books of Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism, Islam, etc. When there is a conflict between what all these books say, which is right and which is wrong?<<

To which you replied:
>>Thankfully, the Creator has given us a standard method for choosing between the options. It is called the scientific method.<<

I then asked:
>>One book says that the dead know nothing and that "it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment"; the other book says there are innumerable reincarnations. What does the scientific method say about it?<<

What I mean is: one book says that there is just one life and one opportunity of salvation, while the other says people live several lives through reincarnation. One book says that there is a personal God, while the other (for instance, in Buddhism) says there is no God. One book says Christ is God, while the other (for instance, the Koran) says Christ is not God. How can the scientific method help me choose between the options? (Since science says nothing about this.)

Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #90903
07/31/07 08:08 PM
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Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light.

Darius,

Don’t you think it’s a bit strained to make a comparison between a Person and books, saying that the Person is the greater light and the books (which are not the primary revelation about Him) are the lesser light? Don’t you think it would be much more natural to compare the Book (a primary revelation about Him) with the books (a secondary revelation about Him)?

Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Rosangela] #91028
08/04/07 02:59 AM
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Rosangela, science is not the same as the scientific method. The scientific method can be applied to any discipline or area of knowledge. Sometimes the scientific method has to conclude that we cannot know what we want to know.

Regarding your examples, why would you want to explain the Creator? How can you explain a Being who is invisible? What would you do with the information if you had it? All religions err in their attempts to explain what they cannot measure or manipulate. Even the Bible declares that if we want to know the Creator we should study what He made (Rom. 1:20) and the scientific method is designed for that purpose. Remember that man was made in the image of his Creator.

Last edited by Darius; 08/04/07 03:06 AM.

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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #91029
08/04/07 03:02 AM
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Rosangala, how can you ignore the context she established when she spoke of her books leading men to the Savior. That is the most important psrt of the quotation. This reminds of Jesus' remark to the Jews who search the Scriptures for in them they THINK they have eternal life but they testify of HIM. This is why she then says that her books are the lesser light to lead to the greater light. She did not say her books lead to the Bible. They lead to the Savior.


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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #125995
06/22/10 08:11 PM
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I saw that this was being looked at in the Who's OnLine area, therefore, I clicked on it to see what was last posted.

Can we say that the question title of this thread was answered, or are we still looking for an answer to this question?

Thoughts anybody?


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