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Re: Is the number of earthquakes in the world increasing or not? [Re: Rosangela] #128343
10/24/10 12:58 AM
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The number of wars is different from the size of any single war.
For instance, a brutal war in Congo is still less than brutal wars in both Congo and Sri Lanka.

And you did not comment on famines.


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Is the number of earthquakes in the world increasing or not? [Re: vastergotland] #128344
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The number of wars is different from the size of any single war.

Statistics are relative. If wars are decreasing in number but not in intensity (number of deaths), or vice-versa, there is no decrease at all.

The same is true about famines. Take a look at the initial words of the 2010 Global Hunger Index forward:

"Global food security is currently under stress. Although the world’s leaders, through the frst Millennium Development Goal, adopted a goal of halving the proportion of hungry people between 1990 and 2015, we are nowhere near meeting that target. The percentage of under-nourished people fell from 20 percent in 1990–92 to 16 percent in 2004–06. In recent years, however, the number of hungry people has actually been increasing."

http://www.ifpri.org/publication/2010-global-hunger-index

Re: Is the number of earthquakes in the world increasing or not? [Re: Rosangela] #128345
10/24/10 10:04 PM
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So inconclusive results for both wars and famines. What does that mean towards the thesis that both should experience sharp increases in order to meet prophetic expectation as would the increased earthquakes in the thread title.


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: Is the number of earthquakes in the world increasing or not? [Re: kland] #128352
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If earthquakes are increasing what difference does it make so far as prophecies are concerned?

Re: Is the number of earthquakes in the world increasing or not? [Re: Mountain Man] #128389
10/26/10 05:27 PM
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Another interesting piece of information:

Notable historic tsunamis:

Before 1000 AD........5
1000–1700.............8
1700s.................5
1800s.................7
1900–1950.............7
1950–2000............11
2000s.................7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_tsunamis

In just ten years we've had 8 tsunamis, including that one of yesterday in Indonesia. And the 2004 tsunami of Sumatra was perhaps the most destructive tsunami in history.

Re: Is the number of earthquakes in the world increasing or not? [Re: Rosangela] #128396
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What difference does it make, so far as the prophecies are concerned, whether or not natural disasters are increasing or decreasing? Will not pastors and politicians, when the time is right, eventually agree enforcing Sunday laws is necessary to appease the wrath of God?

Re: Is the number of earthquakes in the world increasing or not? [Re: Mountain Man] #128406
10/27/10 12:22 AM
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These signs are, themselves, a prophecy. What we are discussing is, can we see in these phenomena the beginning of the fulfillment of the prophecy? Like birth pains, which gradually increase in frequency and intensity until the child is born?

Re: Is the number of earthquakes in the world increasing or not? [Re: Rosangela] #128412
10/27/10 11:37 AM
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I've been thinking that if we need to closely inspect a graph of only thirty years to determine if there is an increase of earthquakes, are we missing something? And this isn't to say I believe there is an obvious increase of earthquakes, just saying that using statistics to determine signs, is something wrong there?

By the way, if a tsunami hits an unpopulated island and no one is aware of it, does it count? As in, before 1000 AD, how does one know these things happen?

Re: Is the number of earthquakes in the world increasing or not? [Re: Mountain Man] #128413
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Will not pastors and politicians, when the time is right, eventually agree enforcing Sunday laws is necessary to appease the wrath of God?
And would they have the same view of God as you do excepting for which day is the Sabbath?

Re: Is the number of earthquakes in the world increasing or not? [Re: kland] #128414
10/27/10 12:18 PM
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I've been thinking that if we need to closely inspect a graph of only thirty years to determine if there is an increase of earthquakes, are we missing something? And this isn't to say I believe there is an obvious increase of earthquakes, just saying that using statistics to determine signs, is something wrong there?

I have no doubt that in my short 50-year life I have seen an increase in these natural phenomena, and many people have the same conviction. This, however, has been denied by scientists, although not by the data, as far as I can see.

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By the way, if a tsunami hits an unpopulated island and no one is aware of it, does it count? As in, before 1000 AD, how does one know these things happen?

Take just the last 300 years and you will see an obvious increase. Tsunami data are more objective than earthquake data. Since ancient times, most coastline areas have been densely populated, both because of their rich fauna and flora and because of commercial routes. The obvious increase in the number of tsunamis didn't occur because of better monitoring nor because regions previously unpopulated are now populated.

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