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Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: Daryl] #126754
08/16/10 03:41 PM
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Unfortunately, no. Several people who have received responses from Penrose indicated that they had to wait a couple months. Thus I am still a tiny bit hopeful.

Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: JCS] #128841
11/12/10 11:45 PM
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It is my understanding that the speed of light is 186,000 feet per second, which translates into it taking many, many years to travel to even the next nearest star, but how fast is the speed of thought and how long does it take to travel to that same star at the speed of thought?


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: Daryl] #128842
11/12/10 11:53 PM
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I just had another thought regarding the curved time-space aspecr of this thread.

When I travel somewhere my GPS tells me what time I will arrive, which, of course, will be adjusted to an earlier time based on the speed I am travelling, or to a later time, if I am travelling at a lower speed.

Is this model of your's based on the same speed scenario?


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

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Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: Daryl] #128843
11/13/10 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
It is my understanding that the speed of light is 186,000 feet per second, which translates into it taking many, many years to travel to even the next nearest star, but how fast is the speed of thought and how long does it take to travel to that same star at the speed of thought?


By the speed of thought, do you mean how fast does it take for synapses to fire, and that sort of thing? Or how long it takes you to have an idea? When you speak of traveling at the speed of thought, do mean simply thinking about it? (as opposed to the movement of mass being involved)


Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: Tom] #128851
11/13/10 12:17 PM
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I heard somebody on TV say that we would be able to travel at the speed of thought like the angels can do. I also thought of this speed of travel before hearing this from that person on TV, who's name and satellite TV network escapes my memory.

Anyway, this same person used the example of the angel Gabriel being sent to Daniel at the moment Daniel prayed for understanding in Daniel 9. Daniel begins his prayer in the 3rd verse and God sends Gabriel in the 20th and 21st verses, which I am quoting below:
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Daniel 9:20 And whiles I was speaking, and praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication before the LORD my God for the holy mountain of my God;
21 Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.


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Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: Daryl] #128852
11/13/10 12:59 PM
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What about:
12 Then he continued, “Do not be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day that you set your mind to gain understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to them. 13 But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days. Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia. 14 Now I have come to explain to you what will happen to your people in the future, for the vision concerns a time yet to come.”
?

Also, not everything that is said on TV is either true nor a worthwhile topic of consideration.
This clearly is a topic of which the Bible says nothing. Therefore anything we say about it must be in the category of "For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear."


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: vastergotland] #128854
11/13/10 10:19 PM
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This was another situation that had nothing to do with travelling at the speed of thought but instead had to do with Gabriel who was busy dealing with a real-time problem that took 21 days to resolve and in this case also needed the help of Michael.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: Daryl] #128855
11/13/10 10:21 PM
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As far as the TV aspect goes, this travelling "speed of thought" idea was stated by a SDA presenter, who's name still escapes me.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: Daryl] #128857
11/14/10 12:43 PM
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I guessed that much. In Sweden as I expect also in Cananda, no regular TV producer would be sending programs discussing the travel speed of angels.


Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
Re: A New Creationist Cosmological Model "The First Flash" [Re: vastergotland] #128859
11/14/10 09:18 PM
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You got that right. smile

Originally Posted By: vastergotland
I guessed that much. In Sweden as I expect also in Cananda, no regular TV producer would be sending programs discussing the travel speed of angels.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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