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Re: The Pre-incarnate Christ [Re: jamesonofthunder] #144638
08/17/12 03:51 AM
08/17/12 03:51 AM
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Job 26:10 He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters
at the boundary between light and darkness
.

Proverbs 8:27 When he established the heavens, I was there;
when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,

Ezekiel 1 "Now it came to pass... that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God...
4 And I looked, and, behold, a stormy wind came out of the north, a great cloud, with a fire infolding itself, and a brightness round about it, and out of the midst thereof as it were glowing metal, out of the midst of the fire.
5 And out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had the likeness of a man.
6 And every one had four faces, and every one of them had four wings...
15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold, one wheel upon the earth beside the living creatures, for each of the four faces thereof.
16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto a beryl: and they four had one likeness; and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel within a wheel.
17 When they went, they went in their four directions: they turned not when they went.
18 As for their rims, they were high and dreadful; and they four had their rims full of eyes round about.
19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them; and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
20 Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went; thither was the spirit to go: and the wheels were lifted up beside them; for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
21 When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up beside them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.
22 And over the head of the living creature there was the likeness of a firmament, like the terrible crystal to look upon, stretched forth over their heads above.
23 And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two which covered on this side, and every one had two which covered on that side, their bodies.
24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings like the noise of great waters, like the voice of the Almighty, a noise of tumult like the noise of a host: when they stood, they let down their wings.
25 And there was a voice above the firmament that was over their heads: when they stood, they let down their wings.
26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone; and upon the likeness of the throne was a likeness as the appearance of a man upon it above.
27 And I saw as it were glowing metal, as the appearance of fire within it round about, from the appearance of his loins and upward; and from the appearance of his loins and downward I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and there was brightness round about him.
28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of Jehovah. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake."

If you would pray about this you would see the truth in it.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: The Pre-incarnate Christ [Re: jamesonofthunder] #144641
08/17/12 03:12 PM
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In fact, I have not heard one person here say they have prayed about anything written here. Makes me wonder.

How can people who claim to know God make any statements regarding the Father and His kingdom and His Son without humbling themselves and praying for God's direction and still claim to be enlightened?

The only way for us to know what is from God is to pray without ceasing for His guidance, yet I do not hear one person here saying "I prayed about this and this is what I believe God showed me". Not once.

Do you not believe in the power of prayer? Do you not know that this is the ONLY way for God to show you anything?

If you read something that a man professing the name of the Lord claims has been shown to him, and immediately launch into saying "that's not right" you are guaranteed to be wrong if you have not prayed. "They closed their ears and gnashed on him with their teeth".

Thank you Father for the persecution these reprobates heap on me for speaking your word. In Jesus name amen.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: The Pre-incarnate Christ [Re: jamesonofthunder] #144643
08/17/12 06:49 PM
08/17/12 06:49 PM
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JSOT,

Yes, I disagree with you. I have no proof whatsoever that you are inspired. Earnie Knoll also said he was inspired.

1Jo 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but try the spirits to see if they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

And yes, I've prayed about this since my first contact with anti-trinitarians - and they say the same thing you are saying about Christ. Now, please define the Holy Spirit. Do you also say that the Holy Spirit is the Father's and Christ's omnipresence?

And please, moderate your tone, as you will never be able to convince anybody with this kind of attitude.

Re: The Pre-incarnate Christ [Re: Rosangela] #144644
08/17/12 07:49 PM
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You take me on, and you twist my words to say something I didn't say, completely misquoting what I wrote, saying I am "anti- trinity" and you tell me to moderate my tone? Those are the types of things Satan does, and you have the audacity to lump me together with Ernie Knowles and then ask me more about my faith? Why, so can continue to ridicule me?

I am not anti-trinity Satan, How is that for a tone?

You are not inspired and I can prove it by the question you just asked. If you knew what you were asking, you would not have asked it.

Here is the perfect answer for your completely indiscreet question... "Now, please define the Holy Spirit". Listen closely...

"The nature of the Holy Spirit is a mystery. Men cannot explain it, because the Lord has not revealed it to them. Men having fanciful views may bring together passages of Scripture and put a human construction on them, but the acceptance of these views will not strengthen the church. Regarding such mysteries, which are too deep for human understanding, silence is golden. {AA 52.1}

So if I would have asked you this question, which if I dug into it here on this website would have found more than enough evidence to prove who YOU are, would prove you do not posses the Holy Spirit of inspiration and you would be very embarrassed right now.

Well maybe not, since you seem to lack discretion.

God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are distinct separate entities having individual characteristics. That is all you will here me say on the matter.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: The Pre-incarnate Christ [Re: jamesonofthunder] #144647
08/17/12 10:43 PM
08/17/12 10:43 PM
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ADMIN HAT ON!!!

Re-opened this thread for a moment to say that this thread is closed for staff review.

ADMIN HAT OFF!!!


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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