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Re: Are the Writings of Ellen G White Inspired by God? [Re: jamesonofthunder] #146792
11/10/12 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
In Deuteronomy 13:2 it is saying that if a man says "let us worship other god's" this proves they are not prophets even if they do miracles.

Now do you get it?

You are using scripture out of context.

Not so at all. You are being unreasonably quite literal. Be careful my brother.

This is a statement expressing the essense of what a false prophet will say and lead you to do.


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Re: Are the Writings of Ellen G White Inspired by God? [Re: jamesonofthunder] #146793
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Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
If they speak not according to these words then there is no light in them.

Show us your light and speak according to the Law of the Lord. What law did Jeremiah speak accordingly proving his source of inspiration and Hananiah did not.

If you cannot, then rejoice my brother in the Lord's rebuke.


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Re: Are the Writings of Ellen G White Inspired by God? [Re: Elle] #146818
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Originally Posted By: Elle

James, can you answer the question? How can you tell which prophet is inspired?


The true test of a prophet is when they reflect the glory of the Lord. Like the face of Moses, you can tell when a man has spoken to God IF you have the faith of Jesus.

If you don't truly have this faith, a true prophet will be a thorn in your side. The trouble'er of Israel was the greatest of Prophets, and John the Baptist was in this same Spirit and so will the 144,000 be; proclaiming the Elijah Message.

So, to answer you question Elle, if a man is not in the true faith of Christ, a true prophet will be their greatest annoyance.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Are the Writings of Ellen G White Inspired by God? #146839
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Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
Originally Posted By: Elle
James, can you answer the question? How can you tell which prophet is inspired?

The true test of a prophet is when they reflect the glory of the Lord. Like the face of Moses, you can tell when a man has spoken to God IF you have the faith of Jesus.

You speak not according to the law. You are saying things "which thou hast not known"(what G-d has not spoken and has not taught to our forefathers). So since you are not repeating (testifying) what G-d has previously said, therefore in essense you are telling us to follow another god.

G-d has already define clearly in Deut 13 & 18 and in Is 8:20 how to test a prophet. Your definition is not according to the Lord's definition in the Law. Therefore according to the judgment of the law of [false] prophets it is written you must "stone him" -->put to death that false prophet in you(the man of sin that speaks falsely through you).

We all do this James. We all have the man of sin(the false prophet in us) speak out many times what the Lord has not said. Be careful my brother and be more vigilent in only saying what the Lord says. Follow the example of Jesus where He did only what His Father did, and spoke only what His Father spoke. John 5:19 This is how Jesus was the true Amen(or witness) of G-d. He only repeated the word of His Father.

Originally Posted By: James
So, to answer you question Elle, if a man is not in the true faith of Christ, a true prophet will be their greatest annoyance.
That was not my question. You are evading the question completly because you cannot answer it for you know little of the law of Moses.

Like I said, I would of been very surprised you would been able to. Very few SDAs(I only know of one) can answer this question because we do not study the Laws of Moses. We think we do, but the reality is we don't. This is a sore truth to admit. Therefore we are not equip to differentiate a true prophet from a false or an inspired person to a uninspired one. This is a very dangerous state of being. We are blinds leading blinds.

Let it be a rebuked from the Lord and rejoice in it because of this revelation. I was glad to know the truth how ignorant I was of the Lord's Laws.


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Re: Are the Writings of Ellen G White Inspired by God? [Re: Elle] #146841
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You sound annoyed. Am I thorn in your side?

I was making a point, beyond the obvious laws of a prophet.

I am not wrong about it.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Are the Writings of Ellen G White Inspired by God? [Re: jamesonofthunder] #146858
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Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
So, to answer you question Elle, if a man is not in the true faith of Christ, a true prophet will be their greatest annoyance.


Kinda casts you in a real favorable light, JSOT...


"All that is Gold does not Glitter, Not all who Wander are Lost." (J.R.R.T.)
Re: Are the Writings of Ellen G White Inspired by God? [Re: JAK] #146870
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And would that make you an anointed messenger to make this statement against me?


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Are the Writings of Ellen G White Inspired by God? [Re: jamesonofthunder] #146883
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ADMIN HAT ON!!!

This thread is about EGW, not about anybody else, therefore, any other OT posts will be reported and then removed.

ADMIN HAT OFF!!!


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Re: Are the Writings of Ellen G White Inspired by God? [Re: Daryl] #146885
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Thank you Daryl.


Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
Re: Are the Writings of Ellen G White Inspired by God? [Re: jamesonofthunder] #146947
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Originally Posted By: jamesonofthunder
You sound annoyed. Am I thorn in your side?

No, you don't annoy me James.

Babylon -- the Thorn
Actually, what you say above does touch the answer of how the Judahites exactly felt when the Babylonians came to take over their land and ask a tribute(tax) to be paid. Jeremiah came in with a wooden yoke and said to submit to Babylon. Jeremiah was not the thorn, it was the King of Babylon(who was G-d's servant and sent by G-d) the thorn. Jeremiah told them what they didn't want to hear to solve the torn problem(submit to G-d's judgment). Hananiah on the other hand said exactly what they wanted to hear--let's destroy that evil thorn.

Jeremiah spoke according to the Law of Tribulation
To answer the question.....What makes Jeremiah the true prophet or inspired one in this incidence, is he spoke according to the Lord's Law given in Deut 28 and Lev 26. If Judah would of studied the Laws and reckoned how the Lord had constantly followed that Law when He brought them in 6 wooden yokes in the past; they would of recognized that Jeremiah was speaking according to God's Law.

He came with the wooden yoke which would of been a lighter judgment on them. Under the wooden yoke judgment, they would of been allowed to stay in their land and continue their lives, and only submit to Babylon's tax. Hananiah broke the wooden yoke and in doing so, they were in direct contempt of God's judgment. Then the Lord gave them the Iron yoke(majority died by the sword, famine and plague, and the remaining exile).

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I was making a point, beyond the obvious laws of a prophet.

I am not wrong about it.
I fail to see the practicality of your point. Someone is not going to see a light(glory of God) beaming out of a true prophet's face. I'm sure Jeremiah was not glowing.


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