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Re: A good reason to hypernate G-d
[Re: Gregory]
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01/05/13 10:47 PM
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I don't see any point in writing "G-d". Vowels weren't added by the Masorites to the word YHWH because the word wasn't pronounced. The word "God," however, is pronounced. So it doesn't make sense to write it as "G-d."
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Re: A good reason to hypernate G-d
[Re: Rosangela]
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01/05/13 11:31 PM
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It stands to reason. Romans 12:1
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: A good reason to hypernate G-d
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01/05/13 11:37 PM
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I don't see any point in writing "G-d". Vowels weren't added by the Masorites to the word YHWH because the word wasn't pronounced. The word "God," however, is pronounced. So it doesn't make sense to write it as "G-d." A minor correction: The vowels for the word "Adonai" were added to the YHWH which caused the reader to pronounce the word Adonai. They did not add the vowels for the word YHWH. NOTE: The Tetragrammaton is the Hebrew word YHWH.
Gregory May God's will be done.
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Re: A good reason to hypernate G-d
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01/07/13 10:13 AM
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Well, it looks like I should write it as "Di-u" when I use it. Really I should not use these words at all. When I exchange with my SDA friend that share this to me, we never say G-d, but instead we use the Lord, Father, Jesus or Yah (short for Yahveh). One would not expect to see an English word written in the form of "G-d." That seems to violate the rules. However, this issue becomes very complex due to the following: 1) Hebrew is written in both pointed and un-pointed style. The English word "G-d" reflects the un-pointed style which in some writing is considered very important. 2)Some religious Jews demand that in the language they are speaking, (English in this case.) print that word in the "G-d" Form. 3) Some Christians have picked up on the theology behind the Jews mentioned above and also wish for the word to always be printed as "G-d." Due to these perspectives A writing style for that word has developed that violates some of the common conventions that are applied to normal printing of the English language. I understand your point Gregory. However I did not write “G-d” because of 2) and I wasn’t even aware of all what you brought out here. I did it because of what was written in Deut 18:20 and Ex 23:13 quoted below. Also I wouldn’t change it because of your point 3). My concern is what the Lord wants me to do in face of our situation with languages today and how it is used. I cannot deny His laws which says the following : Deut. 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.Ex. 23:13 And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth. With my investigation, I see that the word “god” and “dieu” have both pagan origins. So my #1 priority is to obey the Lord. Also I know it is our Christian duty #2 to teach the Laws of the Lord when He calls us to. So depending on the situation and what He wants me to do, I either use other appropriate words avoiding god altogether for His title and fulfill my #1 purpose. Then if He moves me to do #2, then use the word “G-d” and hyphenate it. I will admit that when I started to hyphenate the word G-d here on the forum I had recently learned about Deut 18:20 & Ex 23:13 and only wanted to fulfill #1 in doing so. I don’t think I was call to do #2 despite that’s what it turned out to be when kland started to pester me about it. That’s why I opened this discussion because I didn’t want to explain myself inside many discussions. So I was wrong in using G-d and I should of used other words instead. This discussion made me realize this. Forgive me if I have offended anyone in doing so. And it doesn't offend me if everyone uses "God" either. To me you were just not convicted. That's all. I appreciate all your comments in this discussion.
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Re: A good reason to hypernate G-d
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01/07/13 06:17 PM
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I don't see any point in writing "G-d". Vowels weren't added by the Masorites to the word YHWH because the word wasn't pronounced. The word "God," however, is pronounced. So it doesn't make sense to write it as "G-d." Well said!
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Re: A good reason to hypernate G-d
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01/07/13 06:22 PM
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Are you talking about transliterating letter for letter without the meaning? Makes no sense and would make no sense. That is exactly what transliteration is. You have expressed it very will. Transliteration never has any meaning attached to it. Translation always has meaning and does not substitute letter for letter. You are entitled to stated that therefore transliteration makes no sense. It has not been my purpose to explain the sense that it makes. But, you can believe that transliteration has sense, in a very narrow sense. Gregory, show us how a transliteration yields God with a hyphen.
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Re: A good reason to hypernate G-d
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01/08/13 12:02 AM
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Transliteration does not yield G-d with a hyphen. It never will.
AS I have attempted to explain, Writing "G-d" in English comes from a different background.
Elle: Nothing to request forgiveness. The subject is complex. I Do not always express my thoughts well, especially when I attempt to make them short.
Of course, your responsibility is to do as you are convicted to do. Others may not be so convicted.
Gregory May God's will be done.
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Re: A good reason to hypernate G-d
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01/08/13 03:55 PM
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Transliteration does not yield G-d with a hyphen. It never will.
Ok, I thought that was what I and others were saying. I'm really confused now as to what it sounded like you were disagreeing with.
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Re: A good reason to hypernate G-d
[Re: Johann]
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01/10/13 08:40 PM
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And what do you agree with? At this point, I cannot know if I agree or disagree.
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