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Christ Never Observed the Ceremonial Law #156795
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I came across and read the following, which was a revelation to me:
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Christ never observed the Ceremonial Law.
The Bible never records any instance where Jesus participated in the ceremonial law/sacrificial system. He couldn't, because the ceremonial law/sacrificial system was instituted at the time of sin (Genesis 4:4) to show how God was going to remove man's sins. If Jesus participated in the ceremonial system He would have been admitting that He was a sinner, in which He was not. "Christ passed through all the experiences of His childhood, youth, and manhood without the observance of ceremonial temple worship." (The Bible Echo, October 31, 1898)

Does anybody have any thoughts regarding this?


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Re: Christ Never Observed the Ceremonial Law [Re: Daryl] #156796
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This is the only part that was written by Ellen White:
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"Christ passed through all the experiences of His childhood, youth, and manhood without the observance of ceremonial temple worship." {The Bible Echo, October 31, 1898 par. 7} {RH, October 24, 1899 par. 11}


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Re: Christ Never Observed the Ceremonial Law [Re: Daryl] #156801
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
If Jesus participated in the ceremonial system He would have been admitting that He was a sinner, in which He was not. "Christ passed through all the experiences of His childhood, youth, and manhood without the observance of ceremonial temple worship." (The Bible Echo, October 31, 1898)


Jesus Christ told John at his baptism, "Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness." (Mat. 3:15) Of that baptism, John spoke saying, "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance." (verse 11). It is obvious that Jesus practiced that which indicated prior sin and thus the need to be cleansed.

Consider as well his own words concerning the Passover, "And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover. Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve. AND AS THEY DID EAT ...." (Mat. 26:19-21) In another place, he also said, "With desire I HAVE DESIRED TO EAT this passover with you before I suffer." (Luke 22:15) That Passover Lamb represented Christ who was going to sacrifice himself, a sacrifice indicative of the sinner's need of salvation, for the salvation of all they who ate it in faith. He ate it.

Thirdly, he was circumcised, according to the law. "When eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called Jesus, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb." (Luke 2:21-24) You may recall that when Abraham was circumcised, God told him, "I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect." (Gen. 17:1) Circumcision was not instituted because of an arbitrary command without rhyme or reason, but because of sin.

Jesus was every bit a Jew, a keeper of the Law. But he was more than that. He understood its purpose, and was always careful to weigh it against mercy and compassion for those who struggle in the darkness of this life. He understood the things he was doing, what the ceremonies really meant and explained their purposes to those who were willing to hear: just as he did for his disciples at the Passover, and for John at his baptism.

It is A FALSEHOOD: the notion that Jesus throughout his life, lived "without the observance of ceremonial temple worship." (Mat. 5:17-19)

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Re: Christ Never Observed the Ceremonial Law [Re: James Peterson] #156803
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What is meant by "ceremonial temple worship"?

Yes, Christ kept the Passover with His disciples, but it wasn't in the temple. It was in the upper room where Christ gave it a meaning that transcended the "temple ceremony".

Also we have no record that He ever brought a lamb to be sacrificed in the temple. He had no sins to confess upon its head.

When Jesus did attend a temple festival, He usually ended up in trouble for seeking to change the focus from "ceremony" to the reality of God's salvation.

Jesus did not attend the Rabbinical schools during His childhood, but learned at His mother's knee.
(John 7:15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?)

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Re: Christ Never Observed the Ceremonial Law [Re: dedication] #156814
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Yes, is there a distinction between ceremonial temple worship and ceremonial system?

Just guessing about what the original author was hinting at, I think one key is in the circumcision. Paul said it wasn't necessary. Wasn't it part of the ceremonial system? And yet, Jesus was.

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Re: Christ Never Observed the Ceremonial Law [Re: dedication] #156816
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Originally Posted By: dedication
What is meant by "ceremonial temple worship"?

Yes, Christ kept the Passover with His disciples, but it wasn't in the temple. It was in the upper room where Christ gave it a meaning that transcended the "temple ceremony".

Also we have no record that He ever brought a lamb to be sacrificed in the temple. He had no sins to confess upon its head.

When Jesus did attend a temple festival, He usually ended up in trouble for seeking to change the focus from "ceremony" to the reality of God's salvation.

Jesus did not attend the Rabbinical schools during His childhood, but learned at His mother's knee.
(John 7:15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?)

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Re: Christ Never Observed the Ceremonial Law [Re: kland] #156817
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Originally Posted By: kland
Yes, is there a distinction between ceremonial temple worship and ceremonial system?

Just guessing about what the original author was hinting at, I think one key is in the circumcision. Paul said it wasn't necessary. Wasn't it part of the ceremonial system? And yet, Jesus was.

Be careful to read the Bible for yourself and not listen to those who whisper falsehood in your ear. It is written, "Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did. But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men." (John 2:23-24)

Jesus took part in worship services in the Jerusalem temple. Three times a year, all Jewish men where to present themselves before God in the temple, according to the Law:

"Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt:and none shall appear before me empty:) And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field:and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord God." (Exodus 23:14-17) See also Mat. 5:17-20.

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Re: Christ Never Observed the Ceremonial Law [Re: James Peterson] #156825
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James, how do you determine that Ellen White is a false prophet?

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Re: Christ Never Observed the Ceremonial Law [Re: kland] #156830
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