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Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #166897
07/17/14 09:55 AM
07/17/14 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Many attempt to predict the weather, but most do not agree and hardly any every get it right.


Originally Posted By: kland #166671
"explaining that “there’s absolutely nothing we can do to disturb the Earth’s [weather] systems. "

Is this what I've been trying to say?


Again some do get it right:

Originally Posted By: EGW
How frequently we hear of earthquakes and tornadoes, of destruction by fire and flood, with great loss of life and property. Apparently these calamities are capricious outbreaks of seemingly disorganized, unregulated forces, but in them God’s purpose may be read. They are one of the means by which He seeks to arouse men and women to a sense of their danger. (RH, February 26, 1914 par. 4)


Floods and fire were addressed in my previous note. Before and after GW set up the abomination of desolation: earthquakes (not really a weather event) in the USA for the 10-years 1992-2001 (28,857) to the 10-years 2002 to 2011 (41,244).

There were 7 tornadoes with 3 fatalities in 2001 before GW set up the abomination of desolation on 9/20/01. Afterwards tornadoes struck monthly for 3-months: September 24, October 24, and November 23-24 until 91 tornadoes killed 15 people. This sample is reflective of the big picture like fires, floods, and earthquakes.

What man is doing affects the weather. Turning 20 million barrels of crude oil a day into hot gasses has to be offset by some other mechanism in the earth's echology.

And man's defiance of God stays His hand from holding back the winds of strife.

When GW set up the abomination of desolation there was a marked change in fires: cause and effect.

When GW (the apostate Protestant prince of America's Constitution) reached his hand across the gulf to clasp the Roman power Katrina followed.

When Massachusetts enacted gay marriage, an epic 500-year flood followed.

Man's actions are destroying the earth (both his mismanagement and his disregard for God's moral teachings). Man's spiritual and physical activity have impacted the created world all the way back to Eden by "the evil which man brought into the world by disobedience."

Originally Posted By: EGW
Christians should be preparing for what is soon to break upon the world as an overwhelming surprise, and this preparation they should make by diligently studying the word of God and striving to conform their lives to its precepts. The tremendous issues of eternity demand of us something besides an imaginary religion, a religion of words and forms, where truth is kept in the outer court. God calls for a revival and a reformation... There are many who are crying out for the living God, longing for the divine presence. Let the word of God speak to the heart. Let those who have heard only tradition and human theories and maxims, hear the voice of Him who can renew the soul unto eternal life. (PK 626.1)


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Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #166901
07/17/14 06:17 PM
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How does the Indonesian earthquake fit your scenario? The Japanese earthquake. This killed more that only of the events you speak about? Is it God that is causing all these troubles?

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: His child] #166905
07/17/14 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: kland
Many attempt to predict the weather, but most do not agree and hardly any every get it right.


Some do get it right:

Originally Posted By: EGW
The judgments of God are in the land. The wars and rumors of wars, the destruction by fire and flood, say clearly that the time of trouble, which is to increase until the end, is very near at hand. We have no time to lose. The world is stirred with the spirit of war. The prophecies of the eleventh of Daniel have almost reached their final fulfillment. (RH, November 24, 1904 par. 8)


Destruction by fire has increased. One wildfire burned 9,300 acres in the fire season before GW set up the abomination of desolation on 9/20/01. But in the next fire season, there were four major fires that burned 1,255,276 acres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wildfires ): more than a 100-fold increase in one year.
I guess I had not considered that quote predicted faulty forestry management and the forest fire suppression of the past years.



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When Massachusetts enacted gay marriage, an epic 500-year flood followed.
Why is it called, "500-year" flood?

Ooops....

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #166906
07/17/14 09:19 PM
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1950 - 3,500,000 acres - Chinchaga fire - British Columbia and Alberta - Largest North American fire on record

1910 - 3,000,000 acres (1,200,000 ha) - Great Fire of 1910 - Idaho;Montana;Washington - Killed 86 people, including 78 firefighters

Hmmm. As one theologian says it, the shoe is too small for the foot.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: APL] #166910
07/18/14 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted By: APL
How does the Indonesian earthquake fit your scenario? The Japanese earthquake. This killed more that only of the events you speak about? Is it God that is causing all these troubles?


My study has focused on the US, the power that replaced the papacy and that is to be the last power to persecute God's people.

As God's Spirit is being withdrawn from the world, Satan is becoming more active. And these "natural disasters" are a means to warn men of what is ahead and lead them to God.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #166911
07/18/14 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Why is it called, "500-year" flood?

Ooops....


The best I follow it: occasionally there is local flooding.

And there are severe floods that are not expected to happen once in a 100-years or even worse ones that could come once in 500-years.

But now these floods that were 1 in 500-years are expected on a 50-year cycle.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: APL] #166913
07/18/14 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: APL
1950 - 3,500,000 acres - Chinchaga fire - British Columbia and Alberta - Largest North American fire on record

1910 - 3,000,000 acres (1,200,000 ha) - Great Fire of 1910 - Idaho;Montana;Washington - Killed 86 people, including 78 firefighters

Hmmm. As one theologian says it, the shoe is too small for the foot.


From the context, my focus was primarily on the USA.

An occasional 1 million or even 3 million acres burned in a single year might impress you and others. But that falls far short of 13,515,746 acres.

I looked at the 10-years in the USA just before 9/20/01 and the 10-years immediately after Bush II set up the abomination of desolation.

Now if the Spirit of Prophecy is not accurate, please show us a 10-year cycle before 9/20/01 that had more than 13,515,746 acres burned. Pick any 10 consecutive years that you want before 9/20/01. And to keep from mixing apples with oranges, they MUST BE in the USA including Alaska. Is there even a 10-year cycle with 6 Million acres burned?

This is your opportunity to show us a better shoe size if there is one.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #166916
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Would a Chinese Christian come to the same conclusion as you have? A Russian? An Indian? Historicism has had its problems, not that it is all wrong, but who do you believe? Uriah Smith? The "new view" from the SDA seminary? His Child? Who? Or perhaps there is more the the question? In stead of what, who? Who causes the 7 last plagues? Who is the active subject in the book of Revelation? The common view is that it is God that causes the plagues. Is that right? In the seals, the trumpets and the bowl, is it God that is the acting subject? Or is is Satan? It fits the demonic. Knowing the who, is more important that knowing the what, or so it seems to me...


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: APL] #166919
07/18/14 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: APL
Would a Chinese Christian come to the same conclusion as you have? A Russian? An Indian? Historicism has had its problems, not that it is all wrong, but who do you believe? Uriah Smith? The "new view" from the SDA seminary? His Child? Who? Or perhaps there is more the the question? In stead of what, who? Who causes the 7 last plagues? Who is the active subject in the book of Revelation? The common view is that it is God that causes the plagues. Is that right? In the seals, the trumpets and the bowl, is it God that is the acting subject? Or is is Satan? It fits the demonic. Knowing the who, is more important that knowing the what, or so it seems to me...


Do you ask this so that you won't have to change your shoe size?

Knowing that the United States is the last power to rally the world against God's people: everyone should be very interested in how the image-beast is forming the image to the beast and how America's actions will soon attempt to persecute God's people to extinction.

Originally Posted By: EGW
This power, the last that is to wage war against the church and the law of God, was symbolized by a beast with lamblike horns. The beasts preceding it had risen from the sea, but this came up out of the earth, representing the peaceful rise of the nation which is symbolized. The "two horns like a lamb" well represent the character of the United States Government, as expressed in its two fundamental principles, Republicanism and Protestantism. These principles are the secret of our power and prosperity as a nation. Those who first found an asylum on the shores of America rejoiced that they had reached a country free from the arrogant claims of popery and the tyranny of kingly rule. They determined to establish a government upon the broad foundation of civil and religious liberty. {ST, November 1, 1899 par. 4}


It is the USA that has polluted the planet to the degree that it is today. And now the USA asks China and developing third world countries to cut their pollution levels and thus cut their GDP to save the planet. it comes across as the rich man trying to keep the poor man down.

Republicanism has taken up the rally call: keep the kids out at the border.

Protestantism has turned to capitalism.


The 7 last plagues will take care of themselves. America is preparing the planet for them. We saw the blood of dead men during the Gulf of Mexico oil spill. the next time it will not be stopped. I discussed “megacryometeors,” with Dr. Jesus Martinez-Frias of Nasa (the lead researcher of the phenomenon). During the star wars testing, in multiple tests, America released hundreds of pounds of lithium-barium dust to make high altitude clouds for testing Laser optics. The abnormal high altitude dust clouds are in deteriorating orbits. NASA knows the exact orbit of each dust release. And they know of all the reports of megacryometeors (time, date, weight, and number of megacryometeors). They can correlate altitude of dust cloud release, longitude/latitude, amount of dust released, and corresponding megacryometeor event years later. Thus they can predict the orbital path of the dust and project impact zones and when the megacryometeor plague should begin to fall.

Dr. Jesus Martinez-Frias thought my theory interesting and broke off the conversation. NASA does not want liability for the destruction that soon is to befall earth from their introducing dust into the atmosphere at altitudes far above that which occurs in nature.

But we will see that man is destroying the planet and God has an arsenal of hail laid up for the day and hour of His choosing.

By the way did you find any 10-year period prior to 9/20/01 where more than 13.5 million acres burned. I think not, because natural disasters are increasing. And many of them are manmade. But thought I'd ask.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #166925
07/18/14 02:45 PM
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His child, are you saying only those in the U.S. will be saved? That only they are God's people? Or are you saying that other Christians in other countries need to see the fires and floods happening in the U.S. and even if they aren't as bad as the ones they are experiencing, it must mean something?

I suppose you have a reason for picking and choosing a "10 year cycle"?


Quote:
It is the USA that has polluted the planet to the degree that it is today.
I suppose no one can dispute that statement because if someone said China pollutes more, you would say China isn't part of God's people....



Quote:
During the star wars testing, in multiple tests, America released hundreds of pounds of lithium-barium dust to make high altitude clouds for testing Laser optics.
And James would say all that is a false conspiracy.

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