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Re: PRINCIPLES OF BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION [Re: APL] #167737
08/26/14 11:49 PM
08/26/14 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
I hope SDAs still study the Bible on their own, however, I fear that only a few do it that way.

Are SDAs still a people of the Book?


We can't generalize -- there are definitely Adventists who are still a people of the Bible.



But sadly there are also many Adventists who really are not anchored in scripture.
The prominent ecumenical idea that doctrines don't really matter is doing its work even in Adventist churches. Also the many and varied "long discussions presenting new theories in regard to the prophecies which God has already made plain" have also had a very negative effect.

A lot of people just say "what difference does it make", nobody agrees on what the Bible says anyway, so who am I to figure it out, just believe Christ died to save us, live a decent life and that's all that matters.

Spoon feeding is very readily available and some would rather be fed their spiritual food rather then to dig for themselves.

Then there are others who a merely cultural Adventists -- they are comfortable in an Adventist life style, but it's more like a club than a commitment to any doctrines concerning salvation.

So, yes, there is no generalized statement that fits all members of the Adventist Church.
Hopefully each of us are part of the group that wants to be firmly anchored in God's Word. The deceptions will be many and strongly convincing and only a "thus saith the Lord" will help us discern them.

Re: PRINCIPLES OF BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION [Re: dedication] #167743
08/27/14 12:57 PM
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Daryl,

We should be, but fewer Adventists are people of the Book anymore. I recall hearing that, based on surveys, something like 15-20 % of Adventists bother to open their Bibles daily or weekly. The rest of the other 80-85% apparently bother very little to do that or not at all. This does not bode well for the future of the church or those who are not studying. The shaking is just before us and many of those not studying will be shaken out then.

Re: PRINCIPLES OF BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION [Re: dedication] #167749
08/27/14 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: dedication
By the quote from GC 589 which you shared in answer to my previous post, would we have to change the words to: --

Satan works through the elements as the man of war,
It was not the Lord that cast Pharaoh's chariots into the sea,
It was not the Lord that delivered us,
It was satan's power that killed the Egyptians.
The Lord withdrew and satan destroyed our enemies and overthrew those who rose up against us.


That's blasphemy isn't it?
Satan IS NOT Israel's deliverer.
Satan was working WITH Pharaoh against Israel, not the other way around.
If he had his way Israel would have perished, and Egypt would have triumphed.

The quote you used is talking about satan's malice, it is not talking about the mighty acts of God's deliverance.

It was God WHO delivered Israel with a mighty hand from the power of the Egyptians.
God saved His people from their enemies.
That's one way of interpreting it. Could you see a different way? God IS Israel's deliverer. From satan. And from all those satan inspired of which who were not delivered nor protected from the Lord. Satan couldn't destroy Israel, but he did destroy the Egyptians.

So yes:
Satan works through the elements as the man of war,
It was not the Lord that cast Pharaoh's chariots into the sea,
It was not the Lord that delivered us, It WAS the lord that delivered us from satan's power!
It was satan's power that killed the Egyptians.
The Lord withdrew and satan destroyed our enemies and overthrew those who rose up against us.

Re: PRINCIPLES OF BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION [Re: APL] #167753
08/27/14 06:35 PM
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Yes! We cannot know how much we owe to Christ for the peace and protection which we enjoy. It is the restraining power of God that prevents mankind from passing fully under the control of Satan.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: PRINCIPLES OF BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION [Re: dedication] #167761
08/28/14 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: dedication
We can't generalize -- there are definitely Adventists who are still a people of the Bible.

If one cannot generalize, then Adventists were never a 'people of the Book.'
Wendell's found stats seem optimistic, and there's a wee
difference between daily Bible study and reading the quarterly on Sabbath morning.
Nor does reading EGW equate to Bible study.
Terms are ill-defined these days.

William Miller was a Bible student.
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Re: PRINCIPLES OF BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION [Re: APL] #167762
08/28/14 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: APL
Yes! We cannot know how much we owe to Christ for the peace and protection which we enjoy. It is the restraining power of God that prevents mankind from passing fully under the control of Satan.

A good reminder.
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Re: PRINCIPLES OF BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION [Re: Daryl] #167938
09/04/14 10:12 PM
09/04/14 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
I hope SDAs still study the Bible on their own, however, I fear that only a few do it that way.

Are SDAs still a people of the Book?


Sadly, SDA's are people of the book, but probbly not the Bible. Harry Potter has some of their attention and the TV guide or its counterpart have the attention of too many.

But the Bible? probably not too much???


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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