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Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS? [Re: Mountain Man] #168827
10/08/14 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
No, the lamblike nation that is currently upholding liberty of conscience.
Whose conscience? Americans? Arabs? Sunnis? Kurds? Yours? Is the US a lamblike nations today? Do you really think so?

Read the description of the lamblike beast:

Revelation 13:11-14
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spoke as a dragon.
12 And he excercises all the power of the first beast before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he does great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Does the lamblike beast do great wonders, even bring fire down from heaven in shock and awe? And it deceives who?

Revelation 13:10 He that leads into captivity shall go into captivity: he that kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS? [Re: Mountain Man] #168829
10/08/14 06:19 PM
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Do you pray for the troops and their families? Please answer this question.

Do you think Jesus hears and answers their prayers - the prayers of troops and their families?

Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS? [Re: APL] #168837
10/08/14 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: MM
Please answer this question.
WHY? Will it change you? Does your salvation depend on it?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS? [Re: kland] #168840
10/08/14 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
My boys didn't kill anyone because they served in support roles. No, there is nothing wrong with killing an enemy combatant during battle.
Thank you for answering the question of why your boys couldn't kill anyone.

But my question was: Why did you say you were glad they didn't kill anyone?

If there is nothing wrong with killing someone if the government tells you to, then why should you be glad for them not following the government expectations? Wouldn't that be unpatriotic?

Or is there something wrong with killing people, whether in love or war?
MM, I have yet to see you answer this question. Why did you say you were glad your sons didn't kill anyone?


You said it was patriotic for our sons to go over and kill them. But yet you are glad your sons were not patriotic?

Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS? [Re: APL] #168845
10/08/14 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: APL
M: Please answer this question.

A: WHY?

Why not?

Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS? [Re: APL] #168846
10/09/14 12:18 AM
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Kland, I'm glad my boys didn't kill anyone because doing so, even if the reasons are legitimate, makes an impact.

But it's time for you to leave my boys out of it. I don't appreciate your thoughts on the topic.

Re: How Are We To Love the Soldiers of ISIS? [Re: APL] #168863
10/09/14 09:03 PM
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Thank you for answering it. So moving to a general application, when soldiers are sent to kill people, would you agree it does make an impact on the one or ones doing the killing? And that that impact is not a "favorable" impact?

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