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Re: Ebola, and children suffering from sickness/paralysis
[Re: Rick H]
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10/13/14 09:36 PM
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No wonder we need to pray, and I trust there are some here who believe in prayer more that in Mammon.
Last edited by Johann; 10/13/14 09:36 PM.
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Ebola, and children suffering from sickness/paralysis
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10/17/14 11:56 AM
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Time to get out the EGW books and take our health message seriously.
Amen!
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Re: Ebola, and children suffering from sickness/paralysis
[Re: Rick H]
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10/17/14 04:00 PM
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Re: Ebola, and children suffering from sickness/paralysis
[Re: Elle]
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10/18/14 09:51 PM
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I think much of it is hyped, info lacking, etc... basically another scam from Mystery Babylon. Don't believe everything Mainstream Media tells you. They are Babylon's mouthpiece. I'm not saying there's no disease going around, but what is said about it and what they make of it is all hyped and much of it are lies. There is a simple cure to "Ebola" -- vitamin C. Here's what an health investigator,Jon Rappoport, has to say : Ebola: How to Stage a Fake Epidemicby Jon Rappoport, October 7, 2014 www.nomorefakenews.comNote: all my articles on Ebola can be accessed through my website, nomorefakenews.com. They provide extensive background for what I’m outlining here.
First, keep in mind that what I’m talking about is the creation of false reality.
In 1988, as I finished my first book, “AIDS INC., Scandal of the Century,” I made notes for an upcoming radio interview. Here is a relevant excerpt:
“It turns out there is absolutely no reason to say that HIV causes what is called AIDS. Once you subtract HIV from the official story, what are you left with?
“A number of people who present an array of illnesses and symptoms. But without HIV, the ‘glue’ that held them all together vanishes. So now you have sick people.
You have them in Africa, in New York, San Francisco, Haiti, and other places. Yes, they are sick and they are dying. But that doesn’t make an epidemic, because the tiny virus that was supposed to be at the bottom of all this is missing from the equation.
“This tells you how to invent a fake epidemic. You take many sick and dying people, and you claim there is one germ that is causing all the trouble.
“You promote a few diagnostic tests that ‘will confirm the presence of the germ’ and you tell people they must be tested.
“But the tests don’t really confirm the presence of the germ. They’re deceptive and useless. Of course, the test will register positive in many cases.
“These positive people are said to be victims of the one germ that is at the root of the epidemic.”
I wrote that in 1988, and it applies just as well to Ebola, as I’ve demonstrated.
The two primary diagnostic tests for Ebola—the antibody and the PCR—are completely useless for verifying the presence of millions of Ebola virus in a patient—which is what you need to begin to say that patient is an “Ebola case.”
In 1988 with AIDS, and more recently with Ebola, I’ve explained the list of factors that would make people sick and kill them—factors that have nothing to do with HIV or Ebola virus.
In essence, this is how you create a fake epidemic. Real death, false explanation.
You tie together and link together people who are sick and dying for various reasons, and you claim they’re all dying because of the One Germ.
That gives you a powerful psychological ploy, because people are always looking for the one unified thing that explains a whole host of disturbing facts.
You give them what they want.
They buy it.
In the case of “the SARS epidemic” in 2003, it was “the coronavirus.” As I’ve mentioned before, a Canadian microbiologist working for the World Health Organization, Frank Plummer, inadvertently blew the whistle on the scam when he told reporters, stunningly, that the percentage of SARS patients who actually “had the virus” was shrinking from month to month.
In fact, finally, the percentage was approaching zero.
This rank absurdity was duly reported in the press by brain-dead journalists, and everyone moved on, unaware that a bomb had just exploded.
How could these people be called “SARS cases,” when the one and only cause of SARS, “the coronavirus,” wasn’t present in their bodies?
In the case of HIV, it was even worse, because the people who were diagnosed as “HIV-positive,” as a result of useless and misleading antibody tests, were given a drug called AZT.
AZT was a failed chemotherapy drug sitting on the shelves of the US National Institutes of Health. It had been there for nearly 25 years.
It was doled out to patients with orders that they take it every day for the rest of their lives.
To say AZT is highly toxic is a vast understatement. It attacks all cells of the body, including cells of the immune system. So when patients began dying as a result, doctors blithely assured one and all that “the AIDS disease had accelerated” and the deaths had nothing to do with AZT.
This gives you a clue about how medical criminals can target specific populations.
For example, gay men in America were heavily promoted to “take the AIDS test.” The propaganda was relentless. Naturally, a percentage of the tested men showed up positive on, again, the useless and misleading antibody test.
They were dosed with what amounts to a chemical warfare agent. AZT. Many died.
In the late 1990s, I gave talk about HIV to a group of people in the community room of a park in Hollywood. I said to them:
Imagine that this park is suddenly called the epicenter of an outbreak of a virus. It’s all a fake, but there it is. Health authorities order their agents to track down everyone who has been in the park in the last three months.
These park visitors must be tested for the presence of the virus. Of course, the test is fatally flawed. It shows positive results for a few dozen reasons, none of which has anything to do with the presence of a virus.
Those people, those park visitors who “test positive,” are now given a drug which is so toxic it can kill them. It does kill many of them.
As they die, the health authorities count them as victims of the “Hollywood Park virus.”
The circle is closed. The lies interlock.
After my book, AIDS Inc., was published in 1988, I interviewed a researcher attached to the largest HIV study ever done on gay men, the ongoing San Francisco Men’s Study.
This piece of research tracked men who had been diagnosed as HIV to see what happened to them over the course of many yerar.
Of course, all of them were taking AZT. A huge percentage of them fell ill and died.
But there was a subset of men who remained healthy for 8-10 years and were still healthy. The common denominator? They never took AZT, or they stopped taking it.
I asked the researcher why the organizers of the Study didn’t trumpet this fact.
She said they didn’t think it was very important.
Not important? According to the conventional “science,” these men should be dead. They weren’t. They were healthy. They didn’t take the drug.
This is the kind of “science” that is used to bolster fake epidemics. Real death, false reason.
A crime like no other.
I don't think there is anything fake about this weeks news of how easily Ebola was transferred. Seems pretty real...
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Re: Ebola, and children suffering from sickness/paralysis
[Re: Rick H]
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10/20/14 04:30 PM
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Rick, is everything in the news, real? Is everything publicized really what is happening. In recent years, I hear about pandemics, epidemics, etc., and come to find out there were a dozen people who got sick. So maybe Ebola was easily transferred to one person who was already sick. Maybe several people. How does one know what the truth is?
This is big, a number of big businesses and government agencies have a lot at stake in Ebola being "THE" disease everyone has been hoping for. They won't give up easily. Propaganda will fly.
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Re: Ebola, and children suffering from sickness/paralysis
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10/20/14 04:45 PM
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"The molecule promises to speed up the discovery of universal anti-Ebola drugs. " Don't know why there needs to be a discovery of drugs. Looks to me the properties as found naturally in honeysuckle have already been discovered. Not sure why the molecule needs to be extracted. Might miss out on some other factor.
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Re: Ebola, and children suffering from sickness/paralysis
[Re: Rick H]
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10/20/14 05:23 PM
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What you say is true for many things, such as vitamin supplements.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Ebola, and children suffering from sickness/paralysis
[Re: Rick H]
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10/21/14 04:17 PM
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Re: Ebola, and children suffering from sickness/paralysis
[Re: Rick H]
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10/25/14 09:48 PM
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I don't doubt it is real. I have several friends who see conspiracies behind many, even most, of the headlines. The may be right in some cases but we should think the best of our leaders and pray for them.
Regarding the Spanish Flue this is the first I've heard it was caused by overdosing? Overdosing what? But that's probably not a fruitful line of investigation. Conspiracies take on a life of their own drawing together pieces of often unrelated evidence that only suspicious, irrational minds are able to connect. I'm not promoting naivety but pleading for common courtesy and good will before judging our leaders' motives.
One of the reasons we are going to see more draconian laws on the books is precisely because there is little respect for law makers. In the Old Testament we see several examples of enemy armies turning on themselves and self-destructing. Why? Every man suspected his fellow soldier to be the enemy in disguise.
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Re: Ebola, and children suffering from sickness/paralysis
[Re: Rick H]
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10/26/14 09:42 PM
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There is no question about it being real. It is real. The questions people have is in it's "use". GC 589 "While appearing to the children of men as a great physician who can heal all their maladies, he will bring disease and disaster, until populous cities are reduced to ruin and desolation. Even now he is at work." The above is referring to satan, and it is his work -- however, satan also works through people. There is always the question whether disease is being manufactured and spread for political supposed advantage of some misguided agenda. For example there is a movement to bring populations down by 75% to a "sustainable" number. The argument is that the earth cannot sustain the population and its present rate of growth, and must be GREATLY reduced. http://www.worldwatch.org/node/563...As a consequence of this modern-day "Malthusian dilemma," it is past time to think boldly about the midrange future and to consider alternatives that go beyond merely slowing or stopping the growth of global population. The human species must develop and quickly implement a well-conceived, clearly articulated, flexible, equitable, and internationally coordinated program focused on bringing about a very significant reduction in human numbers over the next two or more centuries. This effort will likely require a global population shrinkage of at least two-thirds to three-fourths, from a probable mid-to-late 21st century peak in the 9 to 10 billion range to a future (23rd century and beyond) "population optimum" of not more than 2 to 3 billion.
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