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Re: The Currency of 1888 [Re: Charity] #172476
03/19/15 11:46 AM
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Kland, regarding March 22 I think you could be right because even under ideal conditions the new moon cannot be visible on the evening of the 20th which is the start of the 21st but will visible by the evening of the 21st which is the start of the 22nd. Thank you for pointing that out. So, the 22nd along with the 21st are both candidates for the start of the month and new year. When I'm able, I'll try to narrow it down.

Last edited by Mark Shipowick; 03/19/15 01:57 PM. Reason: I did some more checking
Re: The Currency of 1888 [Re: Charity] #172477
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I haven't reviewed my sources for lack of time so I'm going from memory but I'll just share this thought on which day is more likely - the 21st or 22nd. I still opt for the 21st because 1) it results in the 14th being closer to the full moon and 2) because calculating the new moon is based on the conjunction. The new moon is calculated like the new year but rather than using the equinox, the marker is the conjunction and the rule is the new moon is the first full day after the conjunction.

Re: The Currency of 1888 [Re: Charity] #172484
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Not sure you can say that. What happens when conjuction occurs a few minutes before sunset? What happens when it occurs a few minutes after sunset? Quite a large difference there. And where at on the globe?

Regarding the equinox, the commentary doesn't say anything about determining the new year by the equinox. Is it wrong? If so, is it wrong on it's main premise of unskilled, untechnical people being able to determine the new year based upon Barley harvest? What about pre-exilic and post-exilic calendars? Which is wrong and correct? How does that answer affect what you are sayng today?

For there exists some place in time and location where the new moon can be seen just before the equinox and a few miles away it cannot be seen. The commentary talks about Jerusalem versus Egypt problems.

How does one determine the equinox, especially slaves that have strayed for many years? The only way I know is with a compass provided I'm not at a location where the magnetic north is a little skewed, if there is any place where it is not.

I'd be interested in knowing where in inspiration it says the visible new moons were calculated.

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