Since there's so many things to address this off topic bend from the Are the feast Days and Sabbaths still binding; its best to open another discussion. The off topic started at page 8.

I’m starting this discussion by bringing here the last significant posts over. However there’s other posts with points that was made that I will let others to bring them here if they feel it should.

What is conditional about prophecies has been hard to describe. One point I would like to bring out is that if the problem was started by man or man's sin, God's prophecies should be treated more as warnings, and these would be conditional.

Such as King Hezekiah of Judah; When the Babylonians came to find out the power that turned the sundial back ten degrees, the king showed them the vessels of the Sanctuary and their riches and gold. Because of this sin, God sent the prophet Isaiah with a message that I don't believe had to be fulfilled! I believe this warning to King Hezekiah was a conditional prophecy and that is why God kept trying to get Judah to repent and Judah would have been spared!

I still find it interesting what God told King Josiah and yet kept trying to get Judah to repent and God would have spared Judah!

I hope I was clear.

Well it seems Elle is going to be busy for the next few weeks. Except she started this thread before that statement was given, listed the questions asked her, but has yet to respond.

From Jeremiah:
Jer 18:7 "The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it,
8 "if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it.
9 "And the instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it,
10 "if it does evil in My sight so that it does not obey My voice, then I will relent concerning the good with which I said I would benefit it.


As the quarterly brought out, what if God prophesies against a nation and that nation turns from evil, will God still bring disaster upon it?

I didn't know about the discussion in the quarterly lesson that started this thread. I haven't posted there for some time.

But, I do believe much of the prophecies in the Bible fall into this category.

I don't believe every prophecy is conditional. The first and second comings of Christ for instance; God has every intention of demonstrating His marvelous and Almighty power in bringing these events to completion.

But, much of the prophecies in the Bible are conditional.

Actually it was Elle who started this thread from her own imaginations. Or that of Hootoff. Or who knows who or what she came across on a forum. I just brought in the quarterly as something that recently reminded me showing her errors. But I see I had already listed it previously.

As I had already express many thoughts about this subject in the other thread where it started and didn't want to repeat these ... I was waiting for the Lord to give us some other thoughts, questions or some sort of direction. Well I think He did with that text you brought forth Kland. That's a pretty good one that will help a lot. Also Alchemy brought another text recently with a comment in another discussion that I thought would help here.

However, when you brought this text up, well I was busy in other discussions. Time is limited for me. And then it takes me a lot of time to write a post as I have to redo the study, revise scriptures and key source words, and I have lots of difficulties to express thoughts. Currently, I have two posts from 2 other discussions that I'm working on. Then I'll focuss here. Sorry for being slow.

I personally would begin with a study on Jonah and Nineveh and work my way from there..

Yes I agree that's a good place to start. That's the comment I've had noticed in another discussion that Alchemy had made that I thought would fit perfectly here.

It is obvious to me that most prophecies are conditional upon the response of the people, as was the case in the ones regarding Jonah and Nineveh, Jeremiah and Judah, etc.

Be careful though that the prophet says PLAINLY at the beginning that the prophecy is conditional, otherwise anyone can irresponsibly palm-off their wild imagination as the word of God.

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