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Is issues such as Womens Ordination part of the Shaking of Adventism? #178525
11/28/15 12:48 PM
11/28/15 12:48 PM
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I was reading a article on the shaking of Adventism and it seems there are more than one issue or event which will cause many to leave the Adventist church. Here is what was said in the article...

"Is the Seventh-day Adventist Church being "shaken up" by a crisis of "identity and authority," as an article in.. Christianity Today seems to assert?

The "Shaking Up of Adventism," writer Ed Plowman, a Christianity Today editor, explains, involves "recent developments that are plunging the Seventh-day Adventist Church into a serious crisis of identity and authority." ...

Also in ferment, the Christianity Today editor suggests, are "the issues of authority and ecclesiology," issues, our readers will be aware, that are making headlines in churches ranging from Roman Catholic through evangelical to Mormon. ...

Even the assertion that early in Seventh-day Adventist history "many of the church's members placed Mrs. White's teachings on a level equal with Scripture, and they tended to require the Bible to square with her views, a practice that persists among some Adventists today" hardly seems likely to register an upheaval of earthquake proportions on an ecclesiastical Richter scale. Ellen White herself, as most Adventists can document by a quick trip to their bookcase, ever pointed church members to the Bible for their authority and teaching (as Plowman also notes).

More worthy of concern is the article's identification of the current situation as a continuing plea "for the church to repent and to embrace Christ's finished work on the cross"—....

Certainly one could document the church's belief in the "finished work of Christ on the cross" throughout its history. Two recent sources would be Questions on Doctrine, a 1957 book that deals comprehensively with issues raised by a group of evangelical scholars who studied Adventist concepts at some depth, and Dr. L. E. Froom's monumental work, The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers (1954).

Nevertheless, Plowman quotes from the book The Shaking of Adventism (with its self-evident contribution to his article) as concluding that it is this truth—the finished work of Christ on the cross—that is shaking Seventh-day Adventism "right down to its foundation."

Interesting to say the least, especially when it is not Womens Ordination but Desmond Ford who is the focus of the writer...

https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1980/05/the-shaking-up-of-adventism

Re: Is issues such as Womens Ordination part of the Shaking of Adventism? [Re: Rick H] #178526
11/28/15 01:05 PM
11/28/15 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rick H
I was reading a article on the shaking of Adventism and it seems there are more than one issue or event which will cause many to leave the Adventist church. Here is what was said in the article...

"Is the Seventh-day Adventist Church being "shaken up" by a crisis of "identity and authority," as an article in.. Christianity Today seems to assert?

The "Shaking Up of Adventism," writer Ed Plowman, a Christianity Today editor, explains, involves "recent developments that are plunging the Seventh-day Adventist Church into a serious crisis of identity and authority." ...

Also in ferment, the Christianity Today editor suggests, are "the issues of authority and ecclesiology," issues, our readers will be aware, that are making headlines in churches ranging from Roman Catholic through evangelical to Mormon. ...

Even the assertion that early in Seventh-day Adventist history "many of the church's members placed Mrs. White's teachings on a level equal with Scripture, and they tended to require the Bible to square with her views, a practice that persists among some Adventists today" hardly seems likely to register an upheaval of earthquake proportions on an ecclesiastical Richter scale. Ellen White herself, as most Adventists can document by a quick trip to their bookcase, ever pointed church members to the Bible for their authority and teaching (as Plowman also notes).

More worthy of concern is the article's identification of the current situation as a continuing plea "for the church to repent and to embrace Christ's finished work on the cross"—....

Certainly one could document the church's belief in the "finished work of Christ on the cross" throughout its history. Two recent sources would be Questions on Doctrine, a 1957 book that deals comprehensively with issues raised by a group of evangelical scholars who studied Adventist concepts at some depth, and Dr. L. E. Froom's monumental work, The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers (1954).

Nevertheless, Plowman quotes from the book The Shaking of Adventism (with its self-evident contribution to his article) as concluding that it is this truth—the finished work of Christ on the cross—that is shaking Seventh-day Adventism "right down to its foundation."

Interesting to say the least, especially when it is not Womens Ordination but Desmond Ford who is the focus of the writer...

https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1980/05/the-shaking-up-of-adventism


I do believe WOPE and other issues will prepare God's people for the shaking, but, I personally believe that the Sabbath will be the issue that will separate the wheat from the tares.

Re: Is issues such as Womens Ordination part of the Shaking of Adventism? [Re: Rick H] #178527
11/28/15 01:08 PM
11/28/15 01:08 PM
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Now you can see the separation in the comparison of , "two soap bubbles with minimal connection" in this article in Adventist Today...

http://atoday.org/womens-ordination-in-adventism-unity-vs-culture.html

Last edited by Rick H; 11/28/15 01:10 PM.
Re: Is issues such as Womens Ordination part of the Shaking of Adventism? [Re: Rick H] #178529
11/28/15 01:28 PM
11/28/15 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rick H
Now you can see the separation in the comparison of , "two soap bubbles with minimal connection" in this article in Adventist Today...

http://atoday.org/womens-ordination-in-adventism-unity-vs-culture.html


It seems like Black African and Black Caribbean Adventists are the moral strength of the SDA Church right now.

Re: Is issues such as Womens Ordination part of the Shaking of Adventism? [Re: Alchemy] #178531
11/28/15 01:59 PM
11/28/15 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Originally Posted By: Rick H
I was reading a article on the shaking of Adventism and it seems there are more than one issue or event which will cause many to leave the Adventist church. Here is what was said in the article...

"Is the Seventh-day Adventist Church being "shaken up" by a crisis of "identity and authority," as an article in.. Christianity Today seems to assert?

The "Shaking Up of Adventism," writer Ed Plowman, a Christianity Today editor, explains, involves "recent developments that are plunging the Seventh-day Adventist Church into a serious crisis of identity and authority." ...

Also in ferment, the Christianity Today editor suggests, are "the issues of authority and ecclesiology," issues, our readers will be aware, that are making headlines in churches ranging from Roman Catholic through evangelical to Mormon. ...

Even the assertion that early in Seventh-day Adventist history "many of the church's members placed Mrs. White's teachings on a level equal with Scripture, and they tended to require the Bible to square with her views, a practice that persists among some Adventists today" hardly seems likely to register an upheaval of earthquake proportions on an ecclesiastical Richter scale. Ellen White herself, as most Adventists can document by a quick trip to their bookcase, ever pointed church members to the Bible for their authority and teaching (as Plowman also notes).

More worthy of concern is the article's identification of the current situation as a continuing plea "for the church to repent and to embrace Christ's finished work on the cross"—....

Certainly one could document the church's belief in the "finished work of Christ on the cross" throughout its history. Two recent sources would be Questions on Doctrine, a 1957 book that deals comprehensively with issues raised by a group of evangelical scholars who studied Adventist concepts at some depth, and Dr. L. E. Froom's monumental work, The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers (1954).

Nevertheless, Plowman quotes from the book The Shaking of Adventism (with its self-evident contribution to his article) as concluding that it is this truth—the finished work of Christ on the cross—that is shaking Seventh-day Adventism "right down to its foundation."

Interesting to say the least, especially when it is not Womens Ordination but Desmond Ford who is the focus of the writer...

https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1980/05/the-shaking-up-of-adventism


I do believe WOPE and other issues will prepare God's people for the shaking, but, I personally believe that the Sabbath will be the issue that will separate the wheat from the tares.
That is for those in Babylon when the National Sunday laws come, not those in the church. We have the rejection of the SOP, the IJ, and many other issues that are happening now, we need to be spiritually aware...


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