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Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: kland] #177411
10/14/15 08:26 AM
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I got my information from an evolutionary scientist.

And this video is pretty old now and nothing has been proven wrong on it yet.

So, if you are saying evolutionists change their positions a lot, I agree.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #177417
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I'm just saying, I'd even be more careful about going along with or supporting what evolutionists say is god.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: kland] #177424
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Originally Posted By: kland
I'm just saying, I'd even be more careful about going along with or supporting what evolutionists say is god.


Did you watch the video?

Evolutionists didn't say it was God, but gave the name "The God Particle" to the Higgs Boson! I didn't say it was God for that matter. But, the conditions they describe are the same the Bible ascribes to God. Or you could say that God claims as His attributes.

I for one am not self-conscience to express myself when it comes to truth. I don't require the approval of anyone but God for that.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #177451
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Evolutionists didn't say it was God, but gave the name "The God Particle" to the Higgs Boson! I didn't say it was God for that matter. But, the conditions they describe are the same the Bible ascribes to God. Or you could say that God claims as His attributes.

I for one am not self-conscience to express myself when it comes to truth. I don't require the approval of anyone but God for that.
This is what I'm talking about.

I'm not talking about self-conscience. I'm talking about making statements which they will say they didn't really make. That is, they will resent being held to something they didn't really say. And even if they did accept they said something, they could later say science has now shown new light they were wrong....

I'm not trying to be argumentative here. I'm just saying one should proceed with caution with saying what they are saying or not saying.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: kland] #177478
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I think they are using "God" in the same sense that Einstein did when he said God doesn't play dice.

While I don't think scientists mean to say the Higgs Boson/Field is divine, the theory says it gives the other particles their properties (e.g. mass), which does bear a close resemblance to what God does. Basically, as I understand the theory, the Higgs Field keeps the planets in their tracks.


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There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #177527
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Personally, I say we hold their feet to the fire!

I understand that they rely heavily of changes in science to save them. I personally believe that is a case for creation! It stays the same for thousands of years.

So, evolutionary scientists may reject even a book written called the God Particle in the face of criticism. So what! I say we hold their feet to the fire still more!

So, what we have now is that evolutionary science today are stuck with the Big Bang and the Standard Model. And they have wanted out of the Standard Model for many years now. But, they found the Higgs Boson which only further proved the Standard Model to be correct!

Which brings us to the LHC, or Large Hadron Collider in Europe. They are straining to find a way around the Standard Model through that machine. Just science so-called.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: kland] #178568
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Originally Posted By: kland
I'd be careful about saying this Higg's field is a God particle or whatever. Right now scientists don't have an explanation. If they should find one that explains everything, they will come back and say it wasn't a God particle at all, that some people were so anxious to insert God into everything they look like fools.

I'm reminded of some creationists who carved human footsteps next to dinosaur's. Of course, atheists do the same.

Isn't there enough evidence for God without interpreting some not yet well understood Higg's field?
(bold emphasis mine)

There was a highly acclaimed scientist at Fermi-Lab in Illinois that wrote a book called "The God Particle". I haven't read it myself, but, that is where the term came from.

Fermi-Lab is a particle collider outside of Chicago, Il.

Re: The Cosmological Constant! What is it? [Re: Alchemy] #178583
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It's a nice book. And it explains why they call it the God particle.


By God's grace,
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There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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