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And now . . . GMO people! #179222
02/01/16 02:25 PM
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Green Cochoa  Offline OP
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Yes, we now have a country officially authorizing a woman and her team to genetically modify/engineer human embryos.

This is truly a sign of the times.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spea...-human-embryos/

I'd hate to be part of the "next generation" of people who have to worry about the potential for having GMO spouses in addition to their GMO foods.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: And now . . . GMO people! [Re: Green Cochoa] #179224
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Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
Yes, we now have a country officially authorizing a woman and her team to genetically modify/engineer human embryos.

This is truly a sign of the times.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spea...-human-embryos/

I'd hate to be part of the "next generation" of people who have to worry about the potential for having GMO spouses in addition to their GMO foods.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.
Is GMO a sin?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: And now . . . GMO people! [Re: Green Cochoa] #179225
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Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
I'd hate to be part of the "next generation" of people who have to worry about the potential for having GMO spouses in addition to their GMO foods.
Is that anything like finding out you're married to a spouse who decides they are the same sex as you?

Re: And now . . . GMO people! [Re: Green Cochoa] #179226
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APL, if this is a precise thing now, why the mutations?

What's really fearful, is they somehow recognized some, but can they recognize all mutations? Maybe not quite as bad as the shotgun approach, but still a gamble.

Re: And now . . . GMO people! [Re: APL] #179271
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Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
Yes, we now have a country officially authorizing a woman and her team to genetically modify/engineer human embryos.

This is truly a sign of the times.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spea...-human-embryos/

I'd hate to be part of the "next generation" of people who have to worry about the potential for having GMO spouses in addition to their GMO foods.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.
Is GMO a sin?



“You are to keep My statutes. You must not crossbreed two different kinds of your livestock, sow your fields with two kinds of seed, or put on a garment made of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19

I would say that Genetic Modification is "crossbreeding" on steroids!


"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: And now . . . GMO people! [Re: ProdigalOne] #179285
02/04/16 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
Yes, we now have a country officially authorizing a woman and her team to genetically modify/engineer human embryos.

This is truly a sign of the times.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spea...-human-embryos/

I'd hate to be part of the "next generation" of people who have to worry about the potential for having GMO spouses in addition to their GMO foods.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.
Is GMO a sin?



“You are to keep My statutes. You must not crossbreed two different kinds of your livestock, sow your fields with two kinds of seed, or put on a garment made of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19

I would say that Genetic Modification is "crossbreeding" on steroids!


Leviticus 25:3-5 Six years you shall sow your field, and six years you shall prune your vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof; 4 But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest to the land, a sabbath for the LORD: you shall neither sow your field, nor prune your vineyard. 5 That which grows of its own accord of your harvest you shall not reap, neither gather the grapes of your vine undressed: for it is a year of rest to the land.

Do you keep every 7th year as a Sabbath Rick? How about the Jubilee? Is GMO a transgression of the Law of God? Are we all transgressors because we do not keep the Sabbatical year?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: And now . . . GMO people! [Re: APL] #179286
02/04/16 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: APL
Leviticus 25:3-5 Six years you shall sow your field, and six years you shall prune your vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof; 4 But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest to the land, a sabbath for the LORD: you shall neither sow your field, nor prune your vineyard. 5 That which grows of its own accord of your harvest you shall not reap, neither gather the grapes of your vine undressed: for it is a year of rest to the land.

Do you keep every 7th year as a Sabbath Rick? How about the Jubilee? Is GMO a transgression of the Law of God? Are we all transgressors because we do not keep the Sabbatical year?


APL,

The yearly rest was not for people, but rather for land. That's evident in the text. Perhaps you have not studied into the core principles of organic farming. Organic farmers know, or should know, that having that year of rest means the ground will be more fertile and productive. It is part of a good crop-rotation plan. It probably has little or nothing to do with the GMO discussion, other than to highlight the fact that the natural way is God's way, and is best for success, health, and happiness.


Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: And now . . . GMO people! [Re: Green Cochoa] #179287
02/04/16 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: green
It probably has little or nothing to do with the GMO discussion
My question was is GMO a sin. Rick brought up Leviticus 19 implying what Green? I'll let you answer that to yourself. I bring another scripture reference which also has sewing of the land involved and few people observe, is that a sin Green? The land rest was not for people you say, yet Israel went into captivity for 70 years because they did not observe the Sabbatical year and give the land its rest. Was that the land's fault? Is GMO a sin?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: And now . . . GMO people! [Re: Green Cochoa] #179289
02/04/16 04:25 PM
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APL,

Since you asked, I believe GMO is a sin, yes. I also happen to believe that old Levitical law about not eating swine still applies. I'm not a farmer, but if I were, I think I would be allowing the land to lie fallow as the Bible prescribes, one year in seven. Farmers these days rotate fields in doing that. Perhaps the Jews all let their lands have rest in the very same year--in which it would have only been a miracle from God that they were all fed of the land in that year. In their system, occasionally the land rested two consecutive years, as well.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: And now . . . GMO people! [Re: Green Cochoa] #179295
02/04/16 07:35 PM
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I may be venturing into a field of hot debate, but I do have some opinion on the matter that are not the conventional ideas in this world.

Ellen White has been mightily criticized for something she wrote:

Quote:
But if there was one sin above another which called for the destruction of the race by the flood, it was the base crime of amalgamation of man and beast which defaced the image of God, and caused confusion everywhere. {1SP 69.1}

Every species of animals which God had created was preserved in the ark. The confused species which God did not create, which were the result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood, there has been amalgamation of man and beast, {1SP 78.2}


There is such a thing as "natural amalgamation" which happens naturally in nature. But I don't believe that is what EGW is talking about.

She isn't just talking about varieties within a species, she is talking about confused species.

Contrary to evolutionist thinking, the pre flood people were the most intelligent human beings that ever lived. They had more than 900 years to fill their computer like minds with data, and unlike computers they could reason and plan and devise.
Originally Posted By: EGW
God had given these men knowledge. He had given them valuable ideas, that they might carry out His plan. But the Lord saw that those whom He designed should possess wisdom, tact, and judgment, were using every quality of the mind to glorify self. By the waters of the Flood, He blotted this long-lived race from the earth, and with them perished the knowledge they had used only for evil. When the earth was repeopled, the Lord trusted His wisdom more sparingly to men, giving them only the ability they would need in carrying out His great plan. {CC 34.3}


I believe they practiced what scientists are now starting to do -- play with genetics. Modify God's creation genetically.
Were the Nephilim, a product of this?

Apparently this was also tried soon after the flood, probably by the descendants Ham-Cush-Nimrod and stopped from progressing by the tower of Babel ordeal. Could well be one of the reasons Israel was charged to destroy all the Canaanites some of which were Nephilim

This amalgamation is called "a sin above others" and "a base crime".





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