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Re: And now . . . GMO people!
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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02/04/16 08:34 PM
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Guess what Dedication - Genesis 3 is telling us what will happen because of sin. It is sin that causes thorns and thistles to come up. The snake lost its legs and ended up crawling on its belly because of sin. It is sin that increases the pain of women in child birth.
Christ never planted the seeds of death in the system. Satan planted these seeds when he tempted Adam to eat of the tree of knowledge, which meant disobedience to God. Not one noxious plant was placed in the Lord's great garden, but after Adam and Eve sinned, poisonous herbs sprang up. In the parable of the sower the question was asked the master, "Didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? From whence then hath it tares?" The master answered, "An enemy hath done this." [Matthew 13:27, 28.] All tares are sown by the evil one. Every noxious herb is of his sowing, and by his ingenious methods of amalgamation he has corrupted the earth with tares. {Ms65-1899}
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: And now . . . GMO people!
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02/05/16 04:12 AM
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So do you agree that humans practiced genetic manipulation prior to the flood -- amalgamation?
Your quote indicates that Satan most likely did -- and probably inspired people to do it too.
The quote I shared suggests it was people practicing genetic manipulation prior to the flood. It says this was a sin above others -- a base crime --
Now people are doing it again -- As it was in the days of Noah..... Another sign we are in the final time.
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Re: And now . . . GMO people!
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02/05/16 11:55 AM
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Do you think the dinosaurs and other extinct gigantic creatures were the result of antediluvian genetic manipulation?
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: And now . . . GMO people!
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02/05/16 12:13 PM
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Do you think the dinosaurs and other extinct gigantic creatures were the result of antediluvian genetic manipulation?
It is quite possible, yes. However, God may have created some of those. We cannot know how many were of divine origin and how many may have been a result of man's tinkering. We do know that God allowed those to perish at the Flood. ... There were a class of very large animals which perished at the flood. God knew that the strength of man would decrease, and these mammoth animals could not be controlled by feeble man. {4aSG 121.2} The question of the meaning of "amalgamation" is at the heart of the interpretation of the following passage. But if there was one sin above another which called for the destruction of the race by the flood, it was the base crime of amalgamation of man and beast which defaced the image of God, and caused confusion everywhere. God purposed to destroy by a flood that powerful, long-lived race that had corrupted their ways before him. He would not suffer them to live out the days of their natural life, which would be hundreds of years. It was only a few generations back when Adam had access to that tree which was to prolong life. After his disobedience he was not suffered to eat of the tree of life and perpetuate a life of sin. In order for man to possess an endless life he must continue to eat of the fruit of the tree of life. Deprived of that tree, his life would gradually wear out. {1SP 69.1} I personally believe that it means genetic tampering on man's part with mixing man and beast (something happening today again) and beasts of differing kinds, which Genesis 1 does not sanction. I support that view from the following passage. Every species of animals which God had created was preserved in the ark. The confused species which God did not create, which were the result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood, there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in certain races of men. {1SP 78.2} Therefore, some of those species were ones that God had not invented Himself, but were "confused species." Therefore, man had tinkered with them via amalgamation. For us to understand this properly, the word "amalgamation" must also apply to "man and beast" as well. If amalgamation creates "confused species," and if mankind is all of one "race" or "specied" (Homo sapiens, according to scientists), then there must be "certain races of men" that have some animal DNA in their heritage. This is HIGHLY controversial (and will probably tend to sidetrack this entire thread into another "amalgamation" debate), and Mrs. White does not elucidate further. But the evidence is there for those who are willing to stomach it. Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: And now . . . GMO people!
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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02/05/16 01:38 PM
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This may have already been said but the reason genetic manipulation is diabolical is that it assumes the prerogatives of the Creator. We as created beings have no more authority to change what God created than we have authority to change the Sabbath or any of the other commandments.
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Re: And now . . . GMO people!
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02/05/16 01:44 PM
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If we do usurp that authority the results will be the same: death and decay. I won't be surprised if we find that the unhealing sores that afflict those with the mark of the beast are the result of ingesting GMO foods. I'm not saying that will definitely be the cause, but only that it could well be.
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Re: And now . . . GMO people!
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02/08/16 06:27 AM
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Yes, we now have a country officially authorizing a woman and her team to genetically modify/engineer human embryos. This is truly a sign of the times. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spea...-human-embryos/I'd hate to be part of the "next generation" of people who have to worry about the potential for having GMO spouses in addition to their GMO foods. Blessings, Green Cochoa. Hideous and frightening. Now is not a good time to have children.
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Re: And now . . . GMO people!
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02/08/16 06:29 AM
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This may have already been said but the reason genetic manipulation is diabolical is that it assumes the prerogatives of the Creator. We as created beings have no more authority to change what God created than we have authority to change the Sabbath or any of the other commandments. Excellent post, Mark.
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Re: And now . . . GMO people!
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02/08/16 03:11 PM
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“You are to keep My statutes. You must not crossbreed two different kinds of your livestock, sow your fields with two kinds of seed, or put on a garment made of two kinds of material." Leviticus 19:19
I would say that Genetic Modification is "crossbreeding" on steroids!
Are garments of two kinds cross breeding or is it a sin? Green, what does it mean to let the land rest? What are the conditions, when people allow it to "rest"?
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Re: And now . . . GMO people!
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02/08/16 05:22 PM
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This may have already been said but the reason genetic manipulation is diabolical is that it assumes the prerogatives of the Creator. We as created beings have no more authority to change what God created than we have authority to change the Sabbath or any of the other commandments. Certain forms of Muscular Distrophy are caused by copy number variation. Are you saying that if we have a way to disable or remove some of these extra copies of genes and prevent the disease that it would be sin? Are you saying that God created this disease? What causes copy number variation, God's design?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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