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Re: Seven Heads on beast [Re: dedication] #179147
01/25/16 07:09 AM
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Some more observations on the seven heads --

1. CROWNS -- symbolizing kingship, kingdom
Dragon has seven crowns -- one for each head.
Sea beast has ten crowns -- one for each horn.
Rev.17 beast has no crowns YET
-- five of it's kings are history, the one that is has no crown, and the seventh hasn't appeared yet.
-- the ten horns (kings) receive their kingdom (crowns) with the beast for one hour.

The pioneer Adventists saw a definite progression in this --

The dragon depicts paganism (spiritualism) When the pagan empires ruled they were crowned monarchs.
The dragon gave his seat and power to sea beast (papal Christianity). The empire days were over, Rome had divided into 10 kingdoms (ten horns) which now wore crowns.

The sea beast is wounded to death, it lost all its crowns as Europe either did away with their monarchies or greatly limited their power, but in Rev. 17 it comes out of the abyss, no crowns YET (even though they are called "kings". but for one hour that changes.

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Originally Posted By: dedication
Some more observations on the seven heads --

1. CROWNS -- symbolizing kingship, kingdom
Dragon has seven crowns -- one for each head.
Sea beast has ten crowns -- one for each horn.
Rev.17 beast has no crowns YET
-- five of it's kings are history, the one that is has no crown, and the seventh hasn't appeared yet.
-- the ten horns (kings) receive their kingdom (crowns) with the beast for one hour.

The pioneer Adventists saw a definite progression in this --

The dragon depicts paganism (spiritualism) When the pagan empires ruled they were crowned monarchs.
The dragon gave his seat and power to sea beast (papal Christianity). The empire days were over, Rome had divided into 10 kingdoms (ten horns) which now wore crowns.

The sea beast is wounded to death, it lost all its crowns as Europe either did away with their monarchies or greatly limited their power, but in Rev. 17 it comes out of the abyss, no crowns YET (even though they are called "kings". but for one hour that changes.




I believe there is a progression as well. With the large empires and the ten kingdoms Western Rome broke into, the state ruled over the church. Once the Papal power was established in 538 A.D., that soon began to change. By 800 A.D. the idea of a Holy Roman Empire was promoted and eventually practiced for centuries until finally abolished in the 1800's.

The reason the ten horns in Revelation 17 doesn't have any crowns is because the church had already established its reign over the state. I personally believe the time of this beast in Revelation is rising is the late 1700's. Right before the deadly wound during the French Revolution. It is this deadly wound that stopped the rise of this beast for the most part. Although, it still had many modes of operation functioning throughout the world.

In our time we can easily see these modes of operation bringing about the healing of that deadly wound which will bring this woman to world dominance.

So much to say.

Re: Seven Heads on beast [Re: dedication] #179267
02/03/16 09:43 PM
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Regarding the crowns on the seven heads (Rev) --

1. CROWNS -- symbolizing kings/rulers
(they can interchange with their kingdom, but do not have to they can be individuals)

2Ki_11:12 And he brought forth the king's son, and put the crown upon him, and gave him the testimony; and they made him king, and anointed him; and they clapped their hands, and said, God save the king.

1Ki_1:35 Then ye shall come up after him, that he may come and sit upon my throne; for he shall be king in my stead: and I have appointed him to be ruler over Israel and over Judah.

Dragon has seven crowns -- one for each head.

6 of the heads are identified as the pagan kingdoms that ruled for the 1260-years from the death decree in Egypt until Christ was born: Egypt (1260 BC Death decree), Assyria (attempted to annihilate Judah), Babylon (made men in David's royal line eunuchs to prevent Messiah's birth), Medo-Persia (universal death decree for all Jews), Greece (attempted to annihilate Jews), Pagan Rome (attempted to kill the baby Man Child and finally killed the grown Man Child).

Then the seventh head is repeated and enlarged in Rev 13: The papacy that was also allotted 1260-years to war against Christ's people before the beast received the deadly wound (538-1798).

The Pius head was wounded to death (Pius VI) and the Pius head was healed (Pius XI). Then the prophecy enlarges and repeats relating to the papal beast that has had its deadly wound healed.

Sea beast in Rev 13 has ten crowns -- one for each horn.

The crowned horns indicate that the 7 popes bonded with 10 sitting American Presidents from Truman--he called fire down from heaven on Japan and he is from the prophetic earth (the Louisiana Territory that was added to the USA in 1803 to double its size after the papacy fell in 1798). The popes that bonded with the ruling Presidents were Pius XI (it is alleged that he put Truman into office) Truman had a papal visit with Pius XII immediately after leaving office. Eisenhower through Clinton all had papal visits while in office (thus the crowns on their horns). And Pope Benedict was the last solo pope of the 7-heads on the papal beast. There are now two popes.

Rev.17 beast has no crowns.
It bonded with US Presidents for a prophetic hour from 14 October 1229 to 14 February 2013. The beast is the papacy and the woman is Apostate Protestant America.

The name on the woman's head is the mark of the beast that she is clinging to. Its name is BABYLON, jurisdiction MOTHER OF HARLOTS, and territory is the EARTH.

When the second Angel repeated "Babylon is fallen is fallen" that announced the fall of papal Babylon and Apostate Protestant Babylon because of Babylon's fornication. The priests' pedophile behavior (fornicating with young boys) was the physical manifestation that affirmed Heaven's repetition of the Second Angel's Message. The inclusion of Apostate Protestantism in the message of the fall of Babylon was affirmed when the US Supreme Court made the priests' fornication the law of the land (gay marriage).

An aside: MM--I found the answer to your question. In Daniel 11 it states that President Obama will extend his time in office beyond 20 January 2017 and remain until Christ Comes.

All of this is probably too much for most folks on this forum to wrap their heads around because it won't fit into their preconceived notions. And some would rather fight against the leading of the Holy Spirit than to change their opinion.
(no offence intended, but Laodiceans think they know it all according to Jesus and they don't want to change.)

Thank you for letting me share. I have been researching and writing so I have not been sharing too much on this forum for some time.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Seven Heads on beast [Re: His child] #179629
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Pope Francis is a Short-Timer https://youtu.be/258evSZHtZ4


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Re: Seven Heads on beast [Re: dedication] #181260
08/04/16 05:07 PM
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My current understanding of the 7 heads on the papal-beast in Revelation 13 has matured some over the past few months.

Pius was one of the beast's heads (that was wounded and healed). Pope Pius VI was wounded and the Pius head was healed: Pope Pius XI

Thus the names of the papal heads are 1)Pius, 2)John, 3)Paul, 4)John-Paul, 5) Benedict, 6)Francis, & 7)Satan

The literal names of the seven solo popes that ruled the post 1929 papacy for an hour were: 1&2)Pius XI & XII, 3)John, 4)Paul, 5 & 6)John-Paul I & II, 7) Benedict, who ruled as the last solo pope (there are now two living popes).

During the reign of Benedict, the papal-beast yielded its authority to the earth-beast with the 2 lamblike horns: Presidents George W. Bush II and Obama.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Seven Heads on beast [Re: His child] #181264
08/07/16 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Regarding the crowns on the seven heads (Rev) --

1. CROWNS -- symbolizing kings/rulers
(they can interchange with their kingdom, but do not have to they can be individuals)

2Ki_11:12 And he brought forth the king's son, and put the crown upon him, and gave him the testimony; and they made him king, and anointed him; and they clapped their hands, and said, God save the king.

1Ki_1:35 Then ye shall come up after him, that he may come and sit upon my throne; for he shall be king in my stead: and I have appointed him to be ruler over Israel and over Judah.

Dragon has seven crowns -- one for each head.

6 of the heads are identified as the pagan kingdoms that ruled for the 1260-years from the death decree in Egypt until Christ was born: Egypt (1260 BC Death decree), Assyria (attempted to annihilate Judah), Babylon (made men in David's royal line eunuchs to prevent Messiah's birth), Medo-Persia (universal death decree for all Jews), Greece (attempted to annihilate Jews), Pagan Rome (attempted to kill the baby Man Child and finally killed the grown Man Child).

Then the seventh head is repeated and enlarged in Rev 13: The papacy that was also allotted 1260-years to war against Christ's people before the beast received the deadly wound (538-1798).

The Pius head was wounded to death (Pius VI) and the Pius head was healed (Pius XI). Then the prophecy enlarges and repeats relating to the papal beast that has had its deadly wound healed.

Sea beast in Rev 13 has ten crowns -- one for each horn.

The crowned horns indicate that the 7 popes bonded with 10 sitting American Presidents from Truman--he called fire down from heaven on Japan and he is from the prophetic earth (the Louisiana Territory that was added to the USA in 1803 to double its size after the papacy fell in 1798). The popes that bonded with the ruling Presidents were Pius XI (it is alleged that he put Truman into office) Truman had a papal visit with Pius XII immediately after leaving office. Eisenhower through Clinton all had papal visits while in office (thus the crowns on their horns). And Pope Benedict was the last solo pope of the 7-heads on the papal beast. There are now two popes.

Rev.17 beast has no crowns.
It bonded with US Presidents for a prophetic hour from 14 October 1229 to 14 February 2013. The beast is the papacy and the woman is Apostate Protestant America.

The name on the woman's head is the mark of the beast that she is clinging to. Its name is BABYLON, jurisdiction MOTHER OF HARLOTS, and territory is the EARTH.

When the second Angel repeated "Babylon is fallen is fallen" that announced the fall of papal Babylon and Apostate Protestant Babylon because of Babylon's fornication. The priests' pedophile behavior (fornicating with young boys) was the physical manifestation that affirmed Heaven's repetition of the Second Angel's Message. The inclusion of Apostate Protestantism in the message of the fall of Babylon was affirmed when the US Supreme Court made the priests' fornication the law of the land (gay marriage).

An aside: MM--I found the answer to your question. In Daniel 11 it states that President Obama will extend his time in office beyond 20 January 2017 and remain until Christ Comes.

All of this is probably too much for most folks on this forum to wrap their heads around because it won't fit into their preconceived notions. And some would rather fight against the leading of the Holy Spirit than to change their opinion.
(no offence intended, but Laodiceans think they know it all according to Jesus and they don't want to change.)

Thank you for letting me share. I have been researching and writing so I have not been sharing too much on this forum for some time.


Blessings His Child,

Have you kept track over the years of how many of your prophetic understandings have been correct and how many have failed? They seem to change on a regular basis.

Re: Seven Heads on beast [Re: Alchemy] #181266
08/07/16 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy

Blessings His Child,

Have you kept track over the years of how many of your prophetic understandings have been correct and how many have failed? They seem to change on a regular basis.


Alchemy,

Yes, I have kept track. Comparing the progress of my prophetic understanding to that of the early Adventist Pioneers, I'm in good company. And I have been blessed to learn from my close misses to do much better of late.

2011-2012 8 tweets stating that Pope Benedict would not be pope in 2013 (might last till spring): Got it RIGHT before it happened

ISIS is drying up Euphrates River of People in preparation for Christ's coming Rev 16: I understand it

Pope Benedict XVI resigned because of priests' fornication scandal Rev 18: I understand it

Pope Francis had a light show depicting St Peters Basilica as a cage of unclean birds Rev 18: I understand it

President Obama, Supreme Court, Congress accepted gay marriage abomination Rev 18: I understand it

Brexit Rev 18: (I understood it before the fact) Would have made $2000 off that prophetic understanding if I understood when to cash out (had to settle for making $1000)

It is time for the 4th angel to sound and join the 3rd angel's message to warn everyone not to take the Mark of Obama (I understand the timing)

Not everybody has given the material a fair hearing and that is totally up to them. The Bible warns that some won't understand. It is the Holy Spirit's office to bring the matters to the heart of the sincere believers.

Iran is going to sink America's Aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf as I read Daniel at this time.

It will happen while Mr Obama is in office and he will turn against the Constitution to stay in office beyond his time.

The elements are all in place: Last president prophesied is in place; last two of 3 pope are in place; Euphrates is being dried up; war with Iran is fast approaching; and the Mark of the beast is not far away.

If I am wrong, I will be embarrassed. When it is clear that my understanding of Bible prophecy is correct, I pray that it won't be too late for the doubting Thomases to repent and reform BUT if they can undo their disbelief and save themselves what about all the folks that are going to be destroyed because of the doubts the unbelievers planted into their minds that these poor victims won't be able to overcome in time? I'm glad that Jesus is the judge of such matters.

Soon there will be a lot of people in despair when they realize that they could have used their probationary time to save their own souls and those of others by praying to receive the right message at the right time and using their probationary time better while Jesus is still pleading their cases in the Sanctuary above.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Seven Heads on beast [Re: dedication] #181268
08/08/16 11:59 AM
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And that International Space Station prediction, how did that work out?

Comparing you to the Adventist prior to 1844, the great religious awaking was a global phenomena, being preached by many people, originating in many places around the globe. (See GC chapter 20). I'm not seeing that with your predictions. Perhaps there are more?

As for the ISS, I'm not sure the shoe size fits.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Seven Heads on beast [Re: His child] #181270
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: Alchemy

Blessings His Child,

Have you kept track over the years of how many of your prophetic understandings have been correct and how many have failed? They seem to change on a regular basis.


Alchemy,

Yes, I have kept track. Comparing the progress of my prophetic understanding to that of the early Adventist Pioneers, I'm in good company. And I have been blessed to learn from my close misses to do much better of late.

2011-2012 8 tweets stating that Pope Benedict would not be pope in 2013 (might last till spring): Got it RIGHT before it happened

ISIS is drying up Euphrates River of People in preparation for Christ's coming Rev 16: I understand it

Pope Benedict XVI resigned because of priests' fornication scandal Rev 18: I understand it

Pope Francis had a light show depicting St Peters Basilica as a cage of unclean birds Rev 18: I understand it

President Obama, Supreme Court, Congress accepted gay marriage abomination Rev 18: I understand it

Brexit Rev 18: (I understood it before the fact) Would have made $2000 off that prophetic understanding if I understood when to cash out (had to settle for making $1000)

It is time for the 4th angel to sound and join the 3rd angel's message to warn everyone not to take the Mark of Obama (I understand the timing)

Not everybody has given the material a fair hearing and that is totally up to them. The Bible warns that some won't understand. It is the Holy Spirit's office to bring the matters to the heart of the sincere believers.

Iran is going to sink America's Aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf as I read Daniel at this time.

It will happen while Mr Obama is in office and he will turn against the Constitution to stay in office beyond his time.

The elements are all in place: Last president prophesied is in place; last two of 3 pope are in place; Euphrates is being dried up; war with Iran is fast approaching; and the Mark of the beast is not far away.

If I am wrong, I will be embarrassed. When it is clear that my understanding of Bible prophecy is correct, I pray that it won't be too late for the doubting Thomases to repent and reform BUT if they can undo their disbelief and save themselves what about all the folks that are going to be destroyed because of the doubts the unbelievers planted into their minds that these poor victims won't be able to overcome in time? I'm glad that Jesus is the judge of such matters.

Soon there will be a lot of people in despair when they realize that they could have used their probationary time to save their own souls and those of others by praying to receive the right message at the right time and using their probationary time better while Jesus is still pleading their cases in the Sanctuary above.
(bold emphasis mine)

Pope Benedict is still a pope. His resignation wasn't anything like Gregory XII. It is very hard to see the soundness of your applications.

Re: Seven Heads on beast [Re: APL] #181318
08/22/16 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: APL
And that International Space Station prediction, how did that work out?

Comparing you to the Adventist prior to 1844, the great religious awaking was a global phenomena, being preached by many people, originating in many places around the globe. (See GC chapter 20). I'm not seeing that with your predictions. Perhaps there are more?

As for the ISS, I'm not sure the shoe size fits.


ALP

Please review my posts on ISS before you depend to much on your memory.

Quote:
As the Cygnus will repeatedly dock with the International Space Station, it could be dogmatically and foolishly stated that this is the fulfillment of Revelation 8:8 in the making. But with each docking when whatever will happen has happened, it could be seen that it was not Bible prophecy fulfilled. On the other hand, it could be argued that Revelation 8:8 has been fulfilled in the past and there is no reason to wonder if Cygnus is going to cause the demise of the ISS. That dogmatic view is equally foolish for a people that are watching and waiting to see Daniel and Revelation explain themselves by their fulfillment in these last days.



Yes People are beginning to give me feedback that shows that others are saying very similar things. There was an SDA preacher that dreamed around 1987 that the last president would be an African American with big ears.

And Just yesterday a man gave me a print out from someone I never heard of who has discovered some of the same things I have been saying for years. I'm not alone.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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