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Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues: #181363
09/06/16 01:14 AM
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Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues:

(Note: Please, no discussion on if God destroys)

In a view given June 27, 1850, my accompanying angel said, “Time is almost finished. Do you reflect the lovely image of Jesus as you should?” Then I was pointed to the earth and saw that there would have to be a getting ready among those who have of late embraced the third angel’s message. Said the angel, “Get ready, get ready, get ready. Ye will have to die a greater death to the world than ye have ever yet died.” I saw that there was a great work to do for them and but little time in which to do it. {EW 64.1}

Then I saw that the seven last plagues were soon to be poured out upon those who have no shelter; yet the world regarded them no more than they would so many drops of water that were about to fall. I was then made capable of enduring the awful sight of the seven last plagues, the wrath of God. I saw that His anger was dreadful and terrible, and if He should stretch forth His hand, or lift it in anger, the inhabitants of the world would be as though they had never been, or would suffer from incurable sores and withering plagues that would come upon them, and they would find no deliverance, but be destroyed by them. Terror seized me, and I fell upon my face before the angel and begged of him to cause the sight to be removed, to hide it from me, for it was too dreadful. Then I realized, as never before, the importance of searching the Word of God carefully, to know how to escape the plagues which that Word declares shall come on all the ungodly who shall worship the beast and his image and receive his mark in their foreheads or in their hands. It was a great wonder for me that any could transgress the law of God and tread down His holy Sabbath, when such awful threatenings and denunciations were against them. {EW 64.2}

The pope has changed the day of rest from the seventh to the first day. He has thought to change the very commandment that was given to cause man to remember his Creator. He has thought to change the greatest commandment in the Decalogue and thus make himself equal with God, or even exalt himself above God. The Lord is unchangeable, therefore His law is immutable; but the pope has exalted himself above God, in seeking to change His immutable precepts of holiness, justice, and goodness. He has trampled underfoot God’s sanctified day, and, on his own authority, put in its place one of the six laboring days. The whole nation has followed after the beast, and every week they rob God of His holy time. The pope has made a breach in the holy law of God, but I saw that the time had fully come for this breach to be made up by the people of God and the waste places built up. {EW 65.1} (bold emphasis mine)


What a horrifying event. What can we do to keep so many people from being subjected to such suffering?

Re: Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues: [Re: Alchemy] #181364
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The fact that Satan claims that one whom he loved so well, and who hated God so perfectly, is now with the holy apostles and angels in glory, should be enough to remove the veil from all minds and discover to them the dark, mysterious works of Satan. He virtually says to the world and to infidels, No matter how wicked you are, no matter whether you believe or disbelieve in God or the Bible, live as you please, heaven is your home; for all know that if Thomas Paine is in heaven, and so exalted, they will surely get there. This error is so glaring that all may see if they will. Satan is now doing through persons like Thomas Paine what he has been trying to do since his fall. He is, through his power and lying wonders, tearing away the foundation of the Christian’s hope and putting out the sun that is to light them in the narrow way to heaven. He is making the world believe that the Bible is uninspired, no better than a storybook, while he holds out something to take its place; namely, spiritual manifestations! {EW 91.1}

Here is a channel wholly devoted to himself and under his control, and he can make the world believe what he will. The Book that is to judge him and his followers he puts back in the shade, just where he wants it. The Saviour of the world he makes to be no more than a common man; and as the Roman guard that watched the tomb of Jesus spread the lying report that the chief priests and elders put into their mouths, so will the poor, deluded followers of these pretended spiritual manifestations repeat and try to make it appear that there is nothing miraculous about our Saviour’s birth, death, and resurrection. After putting Jesus in the background, they attract the attention of the world to themselves and to their miracles and lying wonders, which, they declare, far exceed the works of Christ. Thus the world is taken in the snare and lulled into a feeling of security, not to find out their awful deception until the seven last plagues are poured out. Satan laughs as he sees his plan succeed so well and the whole world taken in the snare. {EW 91.2} (bold emphasis mine)


Note: The italics at the end of the first paragraph were in the statement I copied it from.

It is important to note that Satan has full control of spiritual manifistations!

Re: Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues: [Re: Alchemy] #181365
09/06/16 01:52 AM
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I saw that the slave master [see Appendix.] will have to answer for the soul of his slave whom he has kept in ignorance; and the sins of the slave will be visited upon the master. God cannot take to heaven the slave who has been kept in ignorance and degradation, knowing nothing of God or the Bible, fearing nothing but his master’s lash, and holding a lower position than the brutes. But He does the best thing for him that a compassionate God can do. He permits him to be as if he had not been, while the master must endure the seven last plagues and then come up in the second resurrection and suffer the second, most awful death. Then the justice of God will be satisfied. {EW 276.1} (bold emphasis mine)


I find it interesting that God will have a special resurrection for slave masters to suffer the seven last plagues.

Re: Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues: [Re: Alchemy] #181366
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My attention was again directed to the earth. The wicked had been destroyed, and their dead bodies were lying upon its surface. The wrath of God in the seven last plagues had been visited upon the inhabitants of the earth, causing them to gnaw their tongues from pain and to curse God. The false shepherds had been the signal objects of Jehovah’s wrath. Their eyes had consumed away in their holes, and their tongues in their mouths, while they stood upon their feet. After the saints had been delivered by the voice of God, the wicked multitude turned their rage upon one another. The earth seemed to be deluged with blood, and dead bodies were from one end of it to the other. {EW 289.3} (bold emphasis mine)


Who are these false shepherds?

Re: Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues: [Re: Alchemy] #181369
09/06/16 07:26 AM
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I saw that the four angels would hold the four winds until Jesus’ work was done in the sanctuary, and then will come the seven last plagues. These plagues enraged the wicked against the righteous; they thought that we had brought the judgments of God upon them, and that if they could rid the earth of us, the plagues would then be stayed. A decree went forth to slay the saints, which caused them to cry day and night for deliverance. This was the time of Jacob’s trouble. Then all the saints cried out with anguish of spirit, and were delivered by the voice of God. The 144,000 triumphed. Their faces were lighted up with the glory of God. Then I was shown a company who were howling in agony. On their garments was written in large characters, “Thou art weighed in the balance, and found wanting.” I asked who this company were. The angel said, “These are they who have once kept the Sabbath and have given it up.” I heard them cry with a loud voice, “We have believed in Thy coming, and taught it with energy.” And while they were speaking, their eyes would fall upon their garments and see the writing, and then they would wail aloud. I saw that they had drunk of the deep waters, and fouled the residue with their feet—trodden the Sabbath underfoot—and that was why they were weighed in the balance and found wanting. {EW 36.2} (bold emphasis mine)


The death decree comes about because of the seven last plagues. I think it's important to remember this.

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Re: Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues: [Re: Alchemy] #181372
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Originally Posted By: alchemy
Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues:

(Note: Please, no discussion on if God destroys)
WHO causes the last plagues. Be care in your answer. See Revelation 7:1-3.

Originally Posted By: alchemy
Who are these false shepherds?
Who are the shepherd? What makes them false? Teaching lies about God. What kind of lies? Are they in the SDA church? Knowing the Truth about God's character, THE Gospel is what many do not want to hear or believe. Note your opening warning...

Originally Posted By: alchemy
I find it interesting that God will have a special resurrection for slave masters to suffer the seven last plagues.
Where does EGW say they are resurrected? She does not! But there are slaves today. Also see Revelation 6:15-16.

Originally Posted By: alchemy
The death decree comes about because of the seven last plagues. I think it's important to remember this.
And WHO causes the last plagues? Understanding this is key, don't you think?


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues: [Re: Alchemy] #181376
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues:

(Note: Please, no discussion on if God destroys)
...
I was then made capable of enduring the awful sight of the seven last plagues, the wrath of God.
If you wanted no discussion about whether God destroys or not, why did you bold that?

What is the wrath of God, when is it complete?

Re: Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues: [Re: APL] #181379
09/08/16 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: alchemy
Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues:

(Note: Please, no discussion on if God destroys)
WHO causes the last plagues. Be care in your answer. See Revelation 7:1-3.

Originally Posted By: alchemy
Who are these false shepherds?
Who are the shepherd? What makes them false? Teaching lies about God. What kind of lies? Are they in the SDA church? Knowing the Truth about God's character, THE Gospel is what many do not want to hear or believe. Note your opening warning...

Originally Posted By: alchemy
I find it interesting that God will have a special resurrection for slave masters to suffer the seven last plagues.
Where does EGW say they are resurrected? She does not! But there are slaves today. Also see Revelation 6:15-16.

Originally Posted By: alchemy
The death decree comes about because of the seven last plagues. I think it's important to remember this.
And WHO causes the last plagues? Understanding this is key, don't you think?


Again, I am not going into a "Does God Kill" thread!

As far as your questions are concerned APL, please, feel free to answer them all for us.

Re: Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues: [Re: kland] #181380
09/08/16 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues:

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...
I was then made capable of enduring the awful sight of the seven last plagues, the wrath of God.
If you wanted no discussion about whether God destroys or not, why did you bold that?

What is the wrath of God, when is it complete?


Again, I am not having a "Does God Kill" thread.

In answer to your question, Ellen White has other statements to the point that the seven last plagues are going to be as bad if not worse than we may think. God had to perform a special miracle on Sister White for her to simply watch them. They are truly going to be horrific.

Re: Ellen G. White on the Seven Last Plagues: [Re: Alchemy] #181381
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WHO causes the last plagues is on point of your thread alchemy. If you can't answer that question, then you cannot understand the plagues. That are only two choices of who causes the horror of the last plagues: [1]God, or [2]The devil.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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