Statement quoted says "see Appendix" so here's the Appendix--
Upper case in original not mine:



Maybe the problem is in thinking this is just about the slavery in the Southern states of America back in the 19th century. A lot of those slaves DID know about God, we still sing some of their faith building songs. A lot of those slaves WILL be in heaven. They learned about the Savior Jesus Christ and clung to HIM! Had they remained in Africa they might never have known.

Of course there were some might cruel slave masters back then and they will reap their "reward".

Sorry kland, I had missed this response from you.

She may only mean those then living, but, she doesn't actually say that! I personally thought of some of her other statements about slavery in the United States and wondered if some of those wouldn't be included!

But, I don't think at all that my point was as weird as martians.

I appreciate you bringing up the Appendix to this statement dedication. But, the publishers aren't divinely inspired, as I am not. So, I really do wonder about the slave master statement. I mean, I believe there will be slaves saved from the beginning of slavery. Onesimus would be one slave I could think of.

I only brought that up to demonstrate the disconnect of reasoning.

She doesn't say living. But neither does she say dead.

Which would be more reasonable to assume? If one assumes living, is the burden of proof upon them to show it's not the dead?

There were slaves in the past.
There are slaves today.
The Bible says there will be slaves in the future.

Are you aware of Ellen White saying that Christ could have come in her day? (I'm thinking 1880s?) There were slaves then.

(bold emphasis mine)

Yes, I am aware that Jesus wanted to return in the 1880's or soon thereafter. I am also aware that there were slaves then as well. I also thought that maybe those slave owners would still be included when Christ comes in the future as well. I guess we end up with an awful lot of special resurrections?

Or we could just take the statement at face value?

Ellen White on the seven last plagues.

Plagues come after probation closes (when Christ's sanctuary work is done):

" I saw that the four angels would hold the four winds until Jesus' work was done in the sanctuary, and then will come the seven last plagues. These plagues enraged the wicked against the righteous; they thought that we had brought the judgments of God upon them, and that if they could rid the earth of us, the plagues would then be stayed. A decree went forth to slay the saints,


We will see "droplets" before probation closes, but the full unmixed plagues fall after probation is closed.

Already a few drops of God's wrath have fallen upon the earth; but when the seven last plagues shall be poured out without mixture into the cup of His indignation, then it will be forever too late to repent, and find shelter. No atoning blood will then wash away the stains of sin. {CET 187.3}

Escaping the plagues

The angel said to them, "Will ye shun the seven last plagues? Will ye go to glory and enjoy all that God has prepared for those who love Him and are willing to suffer for His sake? If so, ye must die that ye may live. Get ready, get ready, get ready. Ye must have a greater preparation than ye now have, for the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate and to destroy the sinners thereof out of it. Sacrifice all to God. Lay all upon His altar--self, property, and all, a living sacrifice. It will take all to enter glory. Lay up for yourselves treasure in heaven, where no thief can approach or rust corrupt. Ye must be partakers of Christ's sufferings here if ye would be partakers with Him of His glory hereafter." {EW 66.2}
Heaven will be cheap enough, if we obtain it through suffering. We must deny self all along the way, die to self daily, let Jesus alone appear, and keep His glory continually in view. I saw that those who of late have embraced the truth would have to know what it is to suffer for Christ's sake, that they would have trials to pass through that would be keen and cutting, in order that they may be purified and fitted through suffering to receive the seal of the living God, pass through the time of trouble, see the King in His beauty, and dwell in the presence of God and of pure, holy angels. {EW 67.1}

You could.

I believe this is talking about the seven last plagues;

Then the Catholics bid the Protestants to go forward, and issue a decree that all who will not observe the first day of the week, instead of the seventh day, shall be slain. And the Catholics, whose numbers are large, will stand by the Protestants. The Catholics will give their power to the image of the beast. And the Protestants will work as their mother worked before them to destroy the saints. But before their decree bring or bear fruit, the saints will be delivered by the Voice of God. Then I saw that Jesus’ work in the sanctuary will soon be finished. And after His work there is finished, He will come to the door of the first apartment, and confess the sins of Israel upon the head of the Scape Goat. Then He will put on the garments of vengeance. Then the plagues will come upon the wicked, and they do not come till Jesus puts on that garment, and takes His place upon the great white cloud. Then while the plagues are falling, the Scape Goat is being led away. He makes a mighty struggle to escape, but he is held fast by the hand that leads him. If he should effect his escape, Israel would lose their lives. I saw that it would take time to lead away the Scape Goat into the land of forgetfulness after the sins were put on his head. {SpM 2.1}