The synopsis was short and to the point. Before going to the extreme to condemn the post in question as fanciful, it would have been better to have asked if there were any other texts to confirm the information. But since this information has been presented in this thread with many other texts, the evidence has been given long before the posting in question was shared.

Yea...Sorry, His Child.
I have, however, spent quite a bit of time reading various posts and threads, not just this entire thread but others also, and, well, I have to say that most of your posts are really pretty fanciful. Nothing you have said so far has convinced me of anything.

Really...Sorry.

The Scripture says that the wise will understand.
Until God's appointed time, we do well to study and pray.
Then we will see without a doubt what is fanciful and what is truth.

His child wrote;

"The interpretation is what it is an interpretation. Someone in Heaven gave the interpretation as "earth" Thus to understand what Heaven is speaking of, we must understand what the earth is. In Revelation 13, earth is identified as the uninhabited area that we understand to be the United states.

So the question for each one to decide for themselves "Is the earth in Heaven's interpretation in Daniel 7:17 the literal earth or the symbolic earth?"" (bold emphasis mine)

That is the question! But, it shouldn't be. The symbol of the sea (Rev. 19:15) is the populated part of the earth. A part of the earth where most of what God is addressing is taking place. That would be Europe and the Middle Eastern part of the world to start with. We know it all started with Babylon in Daniel's life time and ends up in Europe until the last days when the USA comes onto the scene. The last days aren't covered in much detail in Daniel 7 though.

Also, we don't need to compare every detail with Revelation 13. Even though they go together, they are not the same prophecy! Revelation 13 does cover more of the last days than Daniel 7.


His child wrote;

"That is not necessarily true. Most if not all English translations say that, but the word in the original language is also translated reign, which is consistent with Heaven's depiction that the 4 beasts are 4 kings. The KJV translators knew the 4 kingdom meaning and used it as a model to choose the word kingdom in 7:23.

If they had understood the endtime presidents, they would most likely used the word reign and not contradicted Heaven's interpretation given in 7:17

The bottom line is if we rightly divide the word of God, we will be approved of God.

It is up to the Holy Spirit to impress truth on each soul.

I have told you how I read it and why. But you are not responsible for how I read it unless I am reading it correctly."

H4437

1. royalty, reign, kingdom
a) royalty, kingship, kingly authority
b) kingdom
c) realm (of territory)
d) reign (of time)


The context clearly lends to kingdom, or realm or territory.

I would also like to mention that reign as it pertains to time could also be part of the understanding of H4437 in Daniel 7:23. A kingdom also reigns for a time in history.

True.

It also says:
"The Spirit will lead you into all truth" John 16:13

and:
"...having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people." 11 Tim.3:5

and:
"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." 11 Tim. 4:3

and:
"Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth." 11 Tim. 2:15

So you see that what Scripture says is less important than what we say it says and how we understand what it says.

Then Heaven statement " These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth" Daniel 7:17 is explaining the territory that the kings come from, i.e., the USA,

That is true. Daniel 12: 4 & 9 "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased... And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end."

" But since 1798 the book of Daniel has been unsealed, knowledge of the prophecies has increased, and many have proclaimed the solemn message of the Judgment near." {GC88 356.2}

Since "A kingdom also reigns for a time in history." it is obvious that the time for these kingdoms was after 1798 when the prophecy was unsealed.

I agree with all the Scriptures cited. And when the prophecies come to pass the wise will be blessed and trhe foolish will know their folly. But if it is as it was in the days of Noah, there will not be time to change one's mind. I hope that it is not that way.

(bold emphasis mine)

Impossible! Daniel called out Babylon directly as the head of Gold in chapter two. Babylon is also the Lion with eagles wings.