Green Party Leader and Hillary Clinton urging a recount in three states.

Very interesting, thought provoking comments in the posts above!

I have noticed for many years now that the republican side is building up for the "religious" crises, while the democrats are building up the "reign of trouble" side. With both sides contributing to the break down of the constitution.

Just a few notes:

Regan -- republican, sends diplomatic to Vatican, works with pope to bring down communism in Russia. Well know for his so called "holy alliance" with the papacy.

Bill Clinton -- test runs on terror,
1) in the Wacko massacre which, even though we do not agree with the Koresh group, still was handled in a terrible brutally unnecessary manner with military might by the government. It would have been so easy to just capture Koresh and try him in a court if that's what they really wanted.
2) The Weaver case, another military might rampage by government against a family group of religious people on false charges.
The B. Clinton reign was filled with evidence of setting things up for coming time of trouble in a physical sense.

The Bush reigns --republican
introduce the "Faith based initiative" government funding program of religious charities and organizations.
Federal assistance to faith-based organizations was a priority on Bush’s political agenda.
Bush authorized a ban on all U.S. funding of abortion right groups internationally. Opposed stem cell research, and same sex marriage.
Wars against Iraq, etc.
Bush used 9/11 to "go out" to remake the world, explaining that his mission was to “make the world safe for democracy” and this included a Christianization influence of Christian morals. There were numerous people declaring him the "antichrist" of scripture.

Obama - democrat
When Obama became president there was a sigh of relief in many Adventist voices. I still remember the same remarks being made -- his election being called a divine intervention giving the world more time --
Bush's agenda was pushing alarmingly toward a religious world crises, Obama, seemed to be a lull in that push. But his popularity soon changed. Some accused Obama of being a Muslim since he has Muslim background and seemed soft on Muslim terrorism. He wasn't really interested in promoting Christianity as such. Evangelicals tended to call him "antichrist" due to his lack of active support of Israel.
However, now the push was again on the other side -- increase the amoral aspects, and rejection of moral Biblical principles.

Another Clinton reign (democrat) probably would have plunged the nation into immoral chaos and trouble, while a republican reign will probably give the religious side an upswing (which was down played in Obama's reign)
Now the question is -- how powerful will that upswing be?
We realize a certain amount of an upswing would be beneficial, but will it go over the wall of separation of church and state bringing in the last great religious persecution as a state religion is established?

Both sides have been setting the stage for the time of trouble as never was to come about-- eroding the constitution of freedom, bringing in laws making a totalitarian government possible at the stroke of a pen.
Prophecy shows it will be the religious oppression that brings in the final showdown.

Good point Rick! I have been watching the SC for some time, wondering the same thing.
The fact that the Justices are all Catholics and Jews is quite remarkable and most certainly points to a deliberate strategy. It will be interesting to see who Trump appoints to replace the Catholic, Scalia.

Even if the new appointee is a Protestant it will not matter, since he or she will undoubtedly be Jesuit educated. Just like Trump and his devout Evangelical Catholic vice-president Pence.

Walter Veith has collected many statements made by Trump and his future vice president Pierce that indicate there may be very little time left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7gzEmJX8Pk

He also points out the Hegelian principle
which is used to swing the pendulum from one side to the other in public thinking and support.

The more closely I examine the Trump victory, the more it does appear to be part of a larger plan, especially considering the long list of Clinton crimes: fraud, theft, drug deals (back in Little Rock), the convenient deaths of dozens of enemies over the years (some as recently as a few weeks ago), the probable blackmail of strategic figures such as the FBI director, the long list of sexual scandles, the cover up of rapes, the child abuse accusations, and of course Hillary's involvement in witchcraft, Bill's fascination with Haitian voodoo rituals, and Clinton's campaign manager's fondness for spirit cooking (grotesque!).

Clinton appears to be everything the political right despises, disguisting enough to push the center into Republican territory, and even repel many leftists.

Then we have Trump the self-made billionaire (sort of) promising to wall off the Mexican horde, stem the flow of "evil" Muslims, and return prosparity to the land.
Along the way, Trump has made some statements and promises that seem to go a long way toward the fulfillment of biblical prophesy.

Some of this is being discussed in the "Will Trump Pass the Sunday Law" thread.
Here is a link dedication provided in that discussion:

"If I'm president, Christianity will have power"-

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-christianity-merry-christmas-2016-1


Only time will tell for certain, but I believe that there is a very real possibility that Donald Trump will be the one to unite the political right and reverse the decades long liberal culture pendulum swing. Conditions worldwide are ripe for a return to "traditional" values. It would be a perfectly logical choice for Trump to seek to solidify his support among the huge Christian Right and Center voting block by instigating a morally edifying, family friendly, labor backed, Papal endorsed, Sunday Law, thus ensuring himself a second term presidency...

"To secure popularity and patronage, legislators will yield to the demand for a Sunday law.... On this battlefield comes the last great conflict of the controversy between truth and error."—Testimonies for the Church 5:450, 451. – {ChS 158.3}

Yes, I believe Donald Trump's election over Hillary Clinton was Devine intervention.

We have been teaching what prophecy says, and yet as it begins to unfold, many Adventist are being caught unawares and unprepared to say the least, or worse too distracted by the likes of Desmond Ford or too busy fighting each as Spiritual Formation and other diverse doctrines are brought into the church.

We need to be clear what our path in these last days must be, the Three Angels message must be given to the world and we comprehend the Sanctuary and what Christ is doing for us.

Very interesting, thought provoking comments in the posts above!

I have noticed for many years now that the republican side is building up for the "religious" crises, while the democrats are building up the "reign of trouble" side. With both sides contributing to the break down of the constitution.

Just a few notes:

Regan -- republican, sends diplomatic to Vatican, works with pope to bring down communism in Russia. Well know for his so called "holy alliance" with the papacy.

Bill Clinton -- test runs on terror,
1) in the Wacko massacre which, even though we do not agree with the Koresh group, still was handled in a terrible brutally unnecessary manner with military might by the government. It would have been so easy to just capture Koresh and try him in a court if that's what they really wanted.
2) The Weaver case, another military might rampage by government against a family group of religious people on false charges.
The B. Clinton reign was filled with evidence of setting things up for coming time of trouble in a physical sense.

The Bush reigns --republican
introduce the "Faith based initiative" government funding program of religious charities and organizations.
Federal assistance to faith-based organizations was a priority on Bush’s political agenda.
Bush authorized a ban on all U.S. funding of abortion right groups internationally. Opposed stem cell research, and same sex marriage.
Wars against Iraq, etc.
Bush used 9/11 to "go out" to remake the world, explaining that his mission was to “make the world safe for democracy” and this included a Christianization influence of Christian morals. There were numerous people declaring him the "antichrist" of scripture.

Obama - democrat
When Obama became president there was a sigh of relief in many Adventist voices. I still remember the same remarks being made -- his election being called a divine intervention giving the world more time --
Bush's agenda was pushing alarmingly toward a religious world crises, Obama, seemed to be a lull in that push. But his popularity soon changed. Some accused Obama of being a Muslim since he has Muslim background and seemed soft on Muslim terrorism. He wasn't really interested in promoting Christianity as such. Evangelicals tended to call him "antichrist" due to his lack of active support of Israel.
However, now the push was again on the other side -- increase the amoral aspects, and rejection of moral Biblical principles.

Another Clinton reign (democrat) probably would have plunged the nation into immoral chaos and trouble, while a republican reign will probably give the religious side an upswing (which was down played in Obama's reign)
Now the question is -- how powerful will that upswing be?
We realize a certain amount of an upswing would be beneficial, but will it go over the wall of separation of church and state bringing in the last great religious persecution as a state religion is established?

Both sides have been setting the stage for the time of trouble as never was to come about-- eroding the constitution of freedom, bringing in laws making a totalitarian government possible at the stroke of a pen.
Prophecy shows it will be the religious oppression that brings in the final showdown.