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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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02/14/17 03:58 PM
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HC, yes, the book contains the history and destiny of every people, tongue and nation. The seals on the book are the final Providences of God at the end when the world is arrayed before the bar of God, the book opened and the final chapter lived out. Mark, I agree. As pointed out. the history of the world has been seen in the white horse Nebuchadnezzar, Babylon, and Reagan. The pale horse was Nabonidus and Belshazzar, pagan and papal Rome, and Bush II and Obama. But you do not see Trump there. When ancient Babylon fell it had a third ruler, Daniel for a brief season. We have trump until 28 March 2017 (if he makes it past 10 March 2017) and that is as though he never was (like Daniel the third ruler for an hour or 2). Then comes the earthquake that accompanies Christ's Coming as does the falling of the stars, the sun and moon going dark, etc. Food for thought When do you say the equinox is this year?
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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02/15/17 07:26 AM
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HC, yes, the book contains the history and destiny of every people, tongue and nation. The seals on the book are the final Providences of God at the end when the world is arrayed before the bar of God, the book opened and the final chapter lived out. Mark, I agree. As pointed out. the history of the world has been seen in the white horse Nebuchadnezzar, Babylon, and Reagan. The pale horse was Nabonidus and Belshazzar, pagan and papal Rome, and Bush II and Obama. But you do not see Trump there. When ancient Babylon fell it had a third ruler, Daniel for a brief season. We have trump until 28 March 2017 (if he makes it past 10 March 2017) and that is as though he never was (like Daniel the third ruler for an hour or 2). Then comes the earthquake that accompanies Christ's Coming as does the falling of the stars, the sun and moon going dark, etc.Food for thought When do you say the equinox is this year? It is obvious that the sealing in " till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads" is spoken of later in " those who ... washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore they are before the throne of God". Both Hebrews (all the tribes of Israel) and Gentiles (all the tribes of the earth) are sealed in the same manner: being born again of water and the Spirit: " Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." (John 3:5 cf Eph. 4:30, " do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption"). *****STAFF EDIT *****///
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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02/18/17 06:56 AM
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When do you say the equinox is this year? I learned something new today. I have known for some time that The final 70 weeks (Daniel 9) allotted to America of the 490 weeks in the end time END on 10 March 2017, but I had not considered the significance of that. In the original 490 week/year prophecy the stoning of Stephen sealed the fate of the Jews as America's fate will be sealed on 10 March 2017. Likewise I knew that as it was in the days of Noah correlates with our day. Noah went into the ark. 7 days later the rain began. 40 days later it stopped. President Trump was inaugurated 1/20/2017. 7 days later is 1/27/2017. 40 days later is 3/8/2017 (two days before the time allotted to US ends).
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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02/18/17 01:46 PM
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When do you say the equinox is this year? I learned something new today. I have known for some time that The final 70 weeks (Daniel 9) allotted to America of the 490 weeks in the end time END on 10 March 2017, but I had not considered the significance of that. In the original 490 week/year prophecy the stoning of Stephen sealed the fate of the Jews as America's fate will be sealed on 10 March 2017. Likewise I knew that as it was in the days of Noah correlates with our day. Noah went into the ark. 7 days later the rain began. 40 days later it stopped. President Trump was inaugurated 1/20/2017. 7 days later is 1/27/2017. 40 days later is 3/8/2017 (two days before the time allotted to US ends). I really don't find your interpretation Biblically or historically sound. But, are you saying the time to wait for is 10 March 2017?
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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02/19/17 04:08 PM
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I really don't find your interpretation Biblically or historically sound. But, are you saying the time to wait for is 10 March 2017? At last common ground. I really don't find your interpretation Biblically or historically sound either. I am saying that as the Stoning of Stephen marked the end of the 490 years allotted to the Jews, the endtime 490 weeks allotted to the SDA Church or America (still studying) will end on 10 March 2017. The date is a big deal but I don't understand a specific event
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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02/20/17 06:13 AM
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I really don't find your interpretation Biblically or historically sound. But, are you saying the time to wait for is 10 March 2017? At last common ground. I really don't find your interpretation Biblically or historically sound either. I am saying that as the Stoning of Stephen marked the end of the 490 years allotted to the Jews, the endtime 490 weeks allotted to the SDA Church or America (still studying) will end on 10 March 2017. The date is a big deal but I don't understand a specific event I see. March 2017 is a big month to watch.
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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02/20/17 03:00 PM
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When do you say the equinox is this year? I learned something new today. I have known for some time that The final 70 weeks (Daniel 9) allotted to America of the 490 weeks in the end time END on 10 March 2017, but I had not considered the significance of that. In the original 490 week/year prophecy the stoning of Stephen sealed the fate of the Jews as America's fate will be sealed on 10 March 2017. Likewise I knew that as it was in the days of Noah correlates with our day. Noah went into the ark. 7 days later the rain began. 40 days later it stopped. President Trump was inaugurated 1/20/2017. 7 days later is 1/27/2017. 40 days later is 3/8/2017 (two days before the time allotted to US ends). Did you just say that prophecy in Daniel is tied to the arbitrary choosing of America's inauguration day? Or did you just say that we can take any prophetic time line and smack it down over top of any arbitrary beginning points of our own choosing? That is, you don't like Trump so you can grab things here and there from scripture to "prove" your dislike for him? Why didn't you do the same when Obama started the presidency? Or when the people chose to reelect him? By the way, When do you say the equinox is this year? Do you know?
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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02/21/17 06:35 AM
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Spring equinox year 2017 is approximately, March/20/10:28 am, Universal Time.
"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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02/21/17 10:33 PM
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There is one significant prophecy being fulfilled here in this thread: Mrs. White prophesied of people time-setting (in vain). She commands us not to do it; but, in a manner like Pilate and Judas, the prophecy will nonetheless be fulfilled by some.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold, Part 1
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02/23/17 02:15 PM
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Spring equinox year 2017 is approximately, March/20/10:28 am, Universal Time. I would agree with that, but not sure His Child is willing to accept that. It conflicts with his prior date of the 29th. I really don't find your interpretation Biblically or historically sound. But, are you saying the time to wait for is 10 March 2017? See, by setting a date of the 10th, he can then give another date of the 29th. Just like in the last half of the 1800's where Ellen White had to tell people the 2300 days are over, there is no more time prophecy for it. But yet they kept setting dates. And as Green pointed out, they will do it again. Such as His Child is doing. There are still future time prophecies not fulfilled, but we do not know the dates of them. Such as the 1000 years.
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