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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #182857
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Communism and socialism are one and the same thing. They are portrayed as being separate but they are not. Karl Marx and Freidrich Engels are the founders of Marxism and Engels said that they wrote The Communist Manifesto simply to differentiate themselves from the socialists who preceded them. In other words, Marx and Engels always were socialists and Marxism is socialism. The word communist was used as a propoganda tool, nothing more.

To really understand this I would recommend the writings of a Nobel Prize winning economist, F.A. Hayek. His book The Road to Serfdom is very good. It does a very thorough job of exposing just how evil socialism is.

The very first editor of the "The Masses", a socialist magazine, Max Eastman, who later rejected socialism and all it stands for, spent two years in Russia and was given access to all kinds of internal documentation while he was there, said at the time that Stalinism, which is what the west was calling what was going on in Russia during the early 1920's, was socialism. It was that internal research and what he saw going on there that ultimately soured Eastman on socialism.

Eastman came out of Davidson University in the early 1900's a converted socialist and became very politically active. He supported all political moves the socialists were making and became an activist for several of the socialist agendas.

There is a free book written by Max Eastman available for download on the internet. It is titled, Reflections On The Failure of Socialism. I can't remember where I downloaded it from, but it may have been the Online Library of Liberty. That resource has thousands of books available dealing with the issues involved in liberty.

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: ] #182876
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Originally Posted By: Gary K
Communism and socialism are one and the same thing. They are portrayed as being separate but they are not. Karl Marx and Freidrich Engels are the founders of Marxism and Engels said that they wrote The Communist Manifesto simply to differentiate themselves from the socialists who preceded them. In other words, Marx and Engels always were socialists and Marxism is socialism. The word communist was used as a propoganda tool, nothing more.

To really understand this I would recommend the writings of a Nobel Prize winning economist, F.A. Hayek. His book The Road to Serfdom is very good. It does a very thorough job of exposing just how evil socialism is.

The very first editor of the "The Masses", a socialist magazine, Max Eastman, who later rejected socialism and all it stands for, spent two years in Russia and was given access to all kinds of internal documentation while he was there, said at the time that Stalinism, which is what the west was calling what was going on in Russia during the early 1920's, was socialism. It was that internal research and what he saw going on there that ultimately soured Eastman on socialism.

Eastman came out of Davidson University in the early 1900's a converted socialist and became very politically active. He supported all political moves the socialists were making and became an activist for several of the socialist agendas.

There is a free book written by Max Eastman available for download on the internet. It is titled, Reflections On The Failure of Socialism. I can't remember where I downloaded it from, but it may have been the Online Library of Liberty. That resource has thousands of books available dealing with the issues involved in liberty.

Tx Gary for your view on this and the further reading info. I don't know enough to comment but I have heard before as you said that communism & socialism were the same. This is something else I need to be looking into as I need to understand more.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #182877
03/23/17 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Elle
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Fascinating interview, it had not occurred to me that one of the motives behind the current vilification of Russia is its resurgent Christianity.

Oh yeah... Mystery Babylon's Cabalist(Kabbalist) who are really luciferian ... their biggest enemy is Christianity.

Did you notice what she said regarding the creation of Communism:

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"ET: You were only expressing views that are consistent with those of many conservatives on both sides of the Atlantic. There are certainly many people concerned about the future of Western societies. In many ways this evokes memories of the Soviet Union, and the great new society they tried to create, with the disastrous consequences we all know.

That is actually a very real and concerning comparison. After all, communism was a Western idea and it was imposed on Russia, they did not create it. And it did not die with the collapse of the Soviet Union. On the contrary, it is still very much alive and roaming around our continent. While it operates differently, the goals are not too dissimilar. The version we have spreading across the West is Cultural Marxism.
"

Russia did not create communism -- "it was a Western idea" that was imposed on them. She's not the first I've read this from. And it was not only Russia this imposition of communism was put on them... but also China.

And then they spread "cultural Marxism" across the west? And yet want us to believe we are a democratic society???? They do know how to confuse things--big time. It is not for nothing that the Lord named them Mystery[secret] Babylon[confusion].
If
The Cabal Elites has been manipulating the social "cattles"(goyim) inside Russia & China for over 100 years as they saw these two very large nations as a futur threat if not kept in check. The Russian and the Chinese leaders are no longer blinded with this manipulation... they now know they were played with and know the real truth about what happened in their countries history.



This Cultural Marxism is incredibly prevalent in North America.
The communist/socialist ideal of government control of the means of production
is seen in the massive CIA infiltration of Hollywood and the mainstream media (which at the last count I read was controlled by just five corporations), as the the corporate owned government seeks total control of the production of cultural content.

A more blatant example of Cultural Marxism in media is the removal of the prohibition against the US government using propaganda against its own population.
An amendment tagged onto the National Defense Authorization Act of 2013 removed that prohibition.

https://www.rt.com/usa/smith-mundt-domestic-propaganda-121/



The situation in the education system is particularly worrisome.
The government is vying for complete control of young minds: techniques employed are generally aimed at the destruction of the family. In this way, respect for parents is eliminated and "moral" guidance is provided by the state through their entertainment/information media proxies, as well as the mandated curriculum and previously indoctrinated teachers/professors.

The destruction of gender is being employed more and more. Last night I attended a play at my stepson's university, where I had my first view of a gender-neutral public bathroom.
The facility that I used had two vending machines on the wall: one dispensed pads, the other tampons. Being male, I found this bizarre.

Here in Alberta, the words mother and father are being removed from clerical school paperwork. They are being replaced with, I believe the term is, "primary caregiver".
Without requiring parental notification, elementary students are being counselled in how to "transition" to a different sex.

A few weeks ago, at the university of Toronto, a teacher named Jordan Peterson was speaking at rally as a proponent of free speech, he objected to being forced to address "trans" students by the gender neutral pronouns "ze" and "zir". Unfortunately, Canada's new law, Bill C-16 will require just that. There was an open mike at the rally; however, few of the students took advantage of it. Instead, when Dr. Peterson attempted to speak, they played white noise at high volume on a large sound system and screamed that "free speech is hate speech"!

Here is an interesting Peterson quote from the BBC:
"I've studied authoritarianism for a very long time - for 40 years - and they're started by people's attempts to control the ideological and linguistic territory," he told the BBC"

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37875695



Similar protests against various proponents of free speech have been seen recently at numerous university and high school speaking engagements throughout the US. These tend to include more pro Islamic sentiment, strongly supported, oddly, by the militant third wave feminist movement.

If the government can convince students and much of the general population, that parents are irrelevant and gender is not a physical fact, but a choice, that feminism should support brutal Islamic oppression of woman, and even that freedom of speech is evil, then can complete mind control via Cultural Marxism be far off?







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Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #182885
03/23/17 05:07 PM
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To give a more historical perspective on this, the progressive/socialist in this country were huge supporters of the Nazis. They didn't back off on that until it became so clear that the Nazis were murdering Jews by the millions that it could no longer be denied. Today, you would think that the socialists have always hated the Nazis. Their propoganda victory in this area is almost complete as there are only a few sources left that show the truth.

Woodrow Wilson was a staunch socialist and someone who basically hated the constitution because it got in his way. He had thought police out on the streets whose job was just to listen to people talk and report those who differed from the Wilson administration's positions. There were massive deportments of people without any due process. The cops would simply round up the people in middle-of-the night raids and put them on ships sitting off the coasts just waiting for them. No court, no hearings, no nothing in any form of due process.

A really good book on what was going on in the early 1900's was written by Rose Wilder Lane. It's titled, Give Me Liberty. It is her story of how she was sucked into socialism and how she found her way out, and what was going on in the US during that time. The book was first published in the 1930's. I think, if I remember correctly, that at least parts of the book were also published in Life magazine in the 40s or 50s. It's been a while since I read the book and the corresponding info on it so my memory is hazy. The book is a free download, once again from mises.org. The following link is a link to mises.org from which you can download the book. It's a really good read. https://mises.org/library/give-me-liberty-0

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: ] #182898
03/24/17 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: Gary K
To give a more historical perspective on this, the progressive/socialist in this country were huge supporters of the Nazis. They didn't back off on that until it became so clear that the Nazis were murdering Jews by the millions that it could no longer be denied. Today, you would think that the socialists have always hated the Nazis. Their propoganda victory in this area is almost complete as there are only a few sources left that show the truth.


Here we differ. Sorry. This narrative, that you are repeating above, is design to pull sympathy towards the Jews in Germany under Hitler while twice as much more citizens in Russia were starved, killed under Stalin regime.

Whether we want to equate Communist with Socialist is missing the greater point made by Christian Dane columnist, Iben Thranholm, who said "After all, communism was a Western idea and it was imposed on Russia, they did not create it.".

That is the point here....Stalin regime was created & manipulated by the "Western"[Elites](aka Mystery Babylon). And Babylon used Stalin to kill twice as more Russians than Jews were killed in Germany. So why all this talk about the Jews and we hear hardly anything about what happened to Russia.

Ever wondered what was Babylon's motive to AMPLIFIED the news about the Jews killed in Germany while they MUTED [as much as they could] the worser news about the killing in Russia?????

I don't buy that narrative. Sorry.


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #182901
03/24/17 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: Elle
Originally Posted By: Gary K
To give a more historical perspective on this, the progressive/socialist in this country were huge supporters of the Nazis. They didn't back off on that until it became so clear that the Nazis were murdering Jews by the millions that it could no longer be denied. Today, you would think that the socialists have always hated the Nazis. Their propoganda victory in this area is almost complete as there are only a few sources left that show the truth.


Here we differ. Sorry. This narrative, that you are repeating above, is design to pull sympathy towards the Jews in Germany under Hitler while twice as much more citizens in Russia were starved, killed under Stalin regime.

Whether we want to equate Communist with Socialist is missing the greater point made by Christian Dane columnist, Iben Thranholm, who said "After all, communism was a Western idea and it was imposed on Russia, they did not create it.".

That is the point here....Stalin regime was created & manipulated by the "Western"[Elites](aka Mystery Babylon). And Babylon used Stalin to kill twice as more Russians than Jews were killed in Germany. So why all this talk about the Jews and we hear hardly anything about what happened to Russia.

Ever wondered what was Babylon's motive to AMPLIFIED the news about the Jews killed in Germany while they MUTED [as much as they could] the worser news about the killing in Russia?????

I don't buy that narrative. Sorry.


Are you all out of breath yet? Jumping to conclusions is hard work.


The same group that denied the Germans were killing the Jews denied Stalin was starving the Ukranians to death by the millions. Those in the media that reported the truth were run out of the business. Some could never find another job as a journalist even though they were excellent journalists. The media in the US and Britain locked them out. The truth finally came out but the liar that said nothing was happening in the Ukraine got a Pulitzer Prize for his make believe stories that were nothing more than Kremlin press releases. As of 60+ years later he still has his Pulitzer Prize and the New York Times has never retracted his stories fully.

The left-wing zealots are still in charge and still covering things up. A lot of this is in Hayek's book, The Road to Serfdom. As I said, it is a really good read. I think it is one of the most important books written in the 20th century as exposes so much of the evil of socialism.

Edit: Thomas Sowell's book on the intelligencia in the US also has a lot of info on this. As I said before, he exposes a lot of deceit.

Last edited by Gary K; 03/24/17 02:57 AM.
Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #182903
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One more addition: The book written by Rose Wilder Lane also talks about what happened in the Ukraine as she was there during the time Stalin was beginning to cut off all food to the Ukranians.

Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #182914
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My comment : Canada just passed a motion to silence critics against Islam despite 71% Canadian voted in a poll against this. The government have some months to prove that there is "Islamophobia" in the country so then they can pass this motion into law.

While I do agree that this bill removes our freedom of Speech, however that's not the greatest of the evil of this. They(Mystery
Babylon who control our government) has been paving the way to destroy our country and our national Christian identity with an excessive in-flux of immigrants into our country... If nothing happens soon to stop this fast moving train...I'm afraid Canada will soon taste the terrible woes of Sweden (read "Is Denmark on the Brink" article above). I do hope it won't come to that.


Canada Passes 'Blasphemy' Bill To Silence Critics Of Islam
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-24/canada-passes-blasphemy-bill-silence-critics-islam
Tyler Durben
March 24, 2017
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Despite polls showing that 71% of Canadians would not have voted for the measure, Canada's Parliament, with the strong backing of Justin Trudeau's Liberal government, passed a motion this week 201 to 91 that critics say singles out Islam for special protection. Tabled by Muslim liberal MP Iqra Khalid, M-103 urges the federal government to “condemn Islamophobia” and to “develop a whole-of-government approach to reducing or eliminating systemic racism and religious discrimination including Islamophobia.” The term “Islamophobia” is nowhere defined in the motion.

A petition on CitizenGo asking MPs to stop the “restrictive ‘anti-blasphemy’” motion has been signed by 79,500 people.

Quote:
“This motion will encourage legislation that would criminalize speech deemed ‘islamophobic’ and lay the groundwork for imposing what is essentially a Sharia anti-blasphemy law on all of Canada,” the petition states.

"If that happens, criticism of Islam would constitute a speech crime in Canada,” it states, adding that this “kind of content-based, viewpoint-discriminatory censorship is unacceptable in a Western liberal democracy.”


As LifeSiteNews reports, while the motion does not change existing laws or create new ones, it empowers a committee to study the issue of “eliminating…Islamophobia” and the federal government to collect data on Islamic ‘hate crimes’ for further study.

Quote:
A Conservative alternative to the motion that condemned racism and discrimination against Muslims, Jews, Christians, and other religious groups — without including the word “Islamophobia” — was defeated by the Liberals in February. Liberals argued at that time that the Tories were simply trying to “water down” the very purpose of M-103, reported Huffington Post.

A number of Conservatives running for the the party's leadership have been outspoken about the problems they see in M-103.

Brad Trost said he could not support the motion because it “will only serve to strengthen extremist elements within the Muslim community itself that seek to preserve and promote their own form of hate and intolerance.” He added that any “serious plan to combat religious discrimination in Canada should include all faith groups, including Christians and Jews.”

Pierre Lemieux said that Canadians should be wary of the language in the motion.

“Do you have a valid concern about Islam? Do you disagree with Sharia Law? Uneasy about radical Islamic terrorism? The Liberals may very well classify you as Islamophobic,” he wrote in an email to supporters.

Lemieux, who called on supporters to pressure MPs to force a recorded vote on M-103, called it a “great day for accountability and for freedom of speech in Canada” when almost two dozen MPs stood up on Tuesday to demand such accountability.

Leadership contender Andrew Scheer also added his voice of opposition to the motion shortly before the vote, saying that it “could be interpreted as a step towards stifling free speech and legitimate criticism” of Islam.

“M-103 is not inclusive. It singles out just one faith. I believe that all religions deserve the same level of respect and protection,” he wrote in an email to supporters.

“I will be voting against it because I believe in Freedom of Speech,” he wrote.

Finally, we leave it to Rebel Media's Faith Goldy to react to this attack on Canadians' most precious freedom-- the freedom of speech


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Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: Elle] #182929
03/25/17 04:40 PM
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Ive already seen the Faith Goldy video you posted, Elle.
There is some scary stuff happening in Canada, courtesy of
our federal imam, Justin Trudeau.

With the Feds planning to bring 300,000 more Muslim "refugees" into Canada
in 2017, and more to follow, we can expect more "multiculturalism" soon.
For instance a couple of months ago, at the swimming pool in West Edmonton Mall here in Alberta, SIX teenage girls were sexually assaulted in one day!
Prior to that two children were sexually assaulted at a hotel swimming pool in Lethbridge, Alberta! All eight assaults were carried out by Muslim "refugees".

Must have been a "sexual emergency" like the one claimed by the Muslim who
dragged a ten year old boy into a pool change room in Austria, before brutally raping him.
The little boy is out of hospital, but his mother says he's on medication, and still wakes up screaming.

Coming soon to Canadastan!

Hmm, I wonder if my words violate our new Islamophobia laws?
Facts often do.



"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: A new Global Economic Restructure in 2012 [Re: ProdigalOne] #182950
03/26/17 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: ProdigalOne
Ive already seen the Faith Goldy video you posted, Elle.
There is some scary stuff happening in Canada, courtesy of
our federal imam, Justin Trudeau.

With the Feds planning to bring 300,000 more Muslim "refugees" into Canada
in 2017, and more to follow, we can expect more "multiculturalism" soon.
For instance a couple of months ago, at the swimming pool in West Edmonton Mall here in Alberta, SIX teenage girls were sexually assaulted in one day!
Prior to that two children were sexually assaulted at a hotel swimming pool in Lethbridge, Alberta! All eight assaults were carried out by Muslim "refugees".

Must have been a "sexual emergency" like the one claimed by the Muslim who
dragged a ten year old boy into a pool change room in Austria, before brutally raping him.
The little boy is out of hospital, but his mother says he's on medication, and still wakes up screaming.

Coming soon to Canadastan!

Hmm, I wonder if my words violate our new Islamophobia laws?
Facts often do.



Excellent post, Prodigal.

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