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Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #175088
07/08/15 01:21 AM
07/08/15 01:21 AM
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Blessings everyone,

To me, this issue rests with who you listen to. There are conflicting evidences and contradictory reports on how much ice is melting and how much are the oceans rising, etc....

The Bible does warn us that in the last days the earth, including nature, will be in great turmoil and I can clearly see that.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: His child] #175100
07/08/15 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: kland
So that's all you have to offer, you believe it to be so? Who told you it was so?


2Ti_2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Yes, that's what's under question. Are you rightly dividing the word? So far, you've offered nothing but your opinion and no evidence to support it.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: Alchemy] #175101
07/08/15 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Blessings everyone,

To me, this issue rests with who you listen to. There are conflicting evidences and contradictory reports on how much ice is melting and how much are the oceans rising, etc....

The Bible does warn us that in the last days the earth, including nature, will be in great turmoil and I can clearly see that.
And that was my question, you say you can clearly see that, but what are you comparing it to? Especially given you admit there are conflicting evidences and contradictory reports, how can you say "you can clearly see that"?

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #175161
07/09/15 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: kland
So that's all you have to offer, you believe it to be so? Who told you it was so?


2Ti_2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Yes, that's what's under question. Are you rightly dividing the word? So far, you've offered nothing but your opinion and no evidence to support it.


Is it the preponderance of the evidence that is needed?
Will God ever take away all possibility to question?


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #175182
07/10/15 02:47 PM
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Yes, evidence is needed to take a position on global warming. Otherwise why did you choose not to say it's global cooling?

Your comment about God taking all possibilities to question is not relevant until you show God is doing it or that it even is happening. You can't just make up things and say God supports them and anyone who disagrees with you is disagreeing with God.

Sounds like 'David Koresh is the messiah and if you disagree with me you are against God'.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: Alchemy] #175462
07/18/15 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Blessings everyone,

To me, this issue rests with who you listen to. There are conflicting evidences and contradictory reports on how much ice is melting and how much are the oceans rising, etc....

The Bible does warn us that in the last days the earth, including nature, will be in great turmoil and I can clearly see that.
Satan knows this and is preparing a 'explanation' using these scientist to keep the people from the true nature of the changes that will come..

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #175474
07/19/15 04:06 PM
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Man-made and natural disasters are devastating our planet. No doubt about it. Eventually Catholics, Protestants, and worldlings will blame it on Sabbath-keeping and Seventh-day Adventists.

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While appearing to the children of men as a great physician who can heal all their maladies, he will bring disease and disaster, until populous cities are reduced to ruin and desolation. Even now he is at work. In accidents and calamities by sea and by land, in great conflagrations, in fierce tornadoes and terrific hailstorms, in tempests, floods, cyclones, tidal waves, and earthquakes, in every place and in a thousand forms, Satan is exercising his power. He sweeps away the ripening harvest, and famine and distress follow. He imparts to the air a deadly taint, and thousands perish by the pestilence. These visitations are to become more and more frequent and disastrous. Destruction will be upon both man and beast. "The earth mourneth and fadeth away," "the haughty people . . . do languish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant." Isaiah 24:4, 5. {GC 589.3}

And then the great deceiver will persuade men that those who serve God are causing these evils. The class that have provoked the displeasure of Heaven will charge all their troubles upon those whose obedience to God's commandments is a perpetual reproof to transgressors. It will be declared that men are offending God by the violation of the Sunday sabbath; that this sin has brought calamities which will not cease until Sunday observance shall be strictly enforced; and that those who present the claims of the fourth commandment, thus destroying reverence for Sunday, are troublers of the people, preventing their restoration to divine favor and temporal prosperity. Thus the accusation urged of old against the servant of God will be repeated and upon grounds equally well established: "And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel? And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father's house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the Lord, and thou hast followed Baalim." 1 Kings 18:17, 18. As the wrath of the people shall be excited by false charges, they will pursue a course toward God's ambassadors very similar to that which apostate Israel pursued toward Elijah. {GC 590.1}

As the Sabbath has become the special point of controversy throughout Christendom, and religious and secular authorities have combined to enforce the observance of the Sunday, the persistent refusal of a small minority to yield to the popular demand will make them objects of universal execration. It will be urged that the few who stand in opposition to an institution of the church and a law of the state ought not to be tolerated; that it is better for them to suffer than for whole nations to be thrown into confusion and lawlessness. The same argument many centuries ago was brought against Christ by the "rulers of the people." "It is expedient for us," said the wily Caiaphas, "that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not." John 11:50. This argument will appear conclusive; and a decree will finally be issued against those who hallow the Sabbath of the fourth commandment, denouncing them as deserving of the severest punishment and giving the people liberty, after a certain time, to put them to death. Romanism in the Old World and apostate Protestantism in the New will pursue a similar course toward those who honor all the divine precepts. {GC 615.2}

"Satan is exercising his power". Or, are man-made and natural disasters the result of humans consuming fossil fuel?

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #175485
07/20/15 12:46 AM
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I really like the point Mountain Man has made.

As sin and sinners gain more control over the affairs of mankind, we can expect to see the results in polluted food, water and air. We can expect to see the weather of the planet to be adversely affected. As Jesus said in Matthew 24; We can expect to see more natural disasters and more powerful natural disasters.

God still uses these as signs even if the world believes they can explain these events away in a natural manner. As if spiritual beings don't exist. As if God and angels and demons don't exist.

The everlasting Gospel has been made available to all mankind and we need to keep it before mankind as long as we can.

Last edited by Alchemy; 07/20/15 12:47 AM.
Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #175502
07/20/15 03:58 PM
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Jesus said He will "destroy them which destroy the earth". So, certain humans will be held responsible for destroying the earth. Exactly how is not clear. However, Satan is the greatest offender. He is doing more to destroy the earth. Jesus, of course, is permitting it. Jesus is also working to ensure evil angels do not exceed the destruction He is willing to allow. Jesus is still in control.

Re: Global Warming Farce [Re: kland] #175508
07/20/15 11:56 PM
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The El Nino effect is ramping up with an eye on exceeding the 1997/98 season.

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