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Re: Changing the Constitution [Re: dedication] #184950
08/19/17 11:32 PM
08/19/17 11:32 PM
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Nice to see you again, Mark.

Yes, I noticed they aren't able to meet the requirements to actually launch a constitution convention -- which is a good thing.
But they keep trying. This isn't the first time they have tried to get enough support for a constitution convention. They just keep trying.

However, like Gary pointed out, they are already "repudiating" many of its principles in practice.

I had to look up the word "repudiate" as to what exactly it meant, and how it is different from "changing", and "abolishing".

Repudiate means
-- rejecting as having no binding force
-- to separate oneself from, as in divorce
-- to refuse to acknowledge or discharge the duties authorized
-- to deny the truth or validity of something

So to "repudiate" the constitution does not necessarily mean to actually legally change it or literally abolish it. But it does mean to ignore it, refuse to follow it and deny its validity and binding authority.

One way to repudiate it is to "redefine" what it means.
For example the first amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
instead of realizing it guarantees freedom OF religion, they re-interpretate it as saying "freedom FROM religion".

Thus Christianity finds this re-interpretation as prohibiting them from sharing the gospel and something that needs to be repudiated, if not actually changed.



Re: Changing the Constitution [Re: dedication] #184971
08/22/17 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: dedication
Is Changing the Constitution the Only Way to Fix Washington?

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Next month delegations of state lawmakers will travel to Phoenix, Arizona, to attend what organizers say will be the first formal convention of states since the Civil War. They’ll gather at the capitol, inside the turquoise-carpeted House chamber, and draw up rules for a hoped-for future meeting: a convention to draft an amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

No “amendment convention” has taken place since the Constitution was written over 200 years ago. But the idea is gaining steam now, stoked by groups on the left and right that say amendments drafted and ratified by states are the last, best hope for fixing the nation’s broken political system and dysfunctional — some even say tyrannical — federal government.(Stateline August 07, 2017)


We are most certainly headed for serious times.



Amen dedication.

I call this "Shock Doctrine" or "Big Bang" tactics.

People are taking over state legislatures and then ramming this weird Constitutional Convention together without specifically outlining the issues and rational for these issues.

It is a truly flying by the seat of your pants type of convention. Grossly unconstitutional.

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