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Re: The Gospel According To John #41321
11/10/00 10:20 PM
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Maybe it will make more sense by placing these two verses together as you see below:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and [the Word] dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

It is obvious that the Word in verse 1 is God.

It is equally obvious that the Word in verse 14 is Jesus Christ.

It is, therefore, truly obvious that Jesus Christ is Jehovah God.

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41322
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John 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

Who was born first? Was it John the Baptist or Jesus Christ?

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41323
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John the Baptist was physically born first, but Christ is eternal therefore the Holy Spirit inspires him to exclaim (He was before me).

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41324
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And when we come to John 8:58 we will read, "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."

I AM

Where did we here that before?

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41325
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Moses went to see a bush that did not burn up. He got an unexpected talking to.

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41326
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Yes, Ed.

And that I AM of the burning bush is the same I AM of the gospel of John namely Jesus Christ, or, as He was known at the burning bush, Jehovah God.

Now on to the next verse.

John 1:17 "For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ."

What is the difference between the law and grace and truth?

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41327
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We seem to have really slipped in this study, therefore, I am going to resurrect this topic again.

As this is a very important question, I am asking it again.

What is the difference between the law and grace and truth?

In other words, what's the difference between the law that was given through Moses and grace and truth that was given to us through Jesus Christ?

When was the law given?

When was grace and truth given?

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41328
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law was trying to show the way to the lawless but couldn't, so it had to restrain them from danger.

Grace was empowering them but could not teach them, so it had to protect them from danger and themselves.

Truth both showed the way and taught them, but linked arm in arm with grace and law so arm in arm, Law - Grace - Truth working together gathered the flock and safely got them home.

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The law stated in this verse which was given to Moses by Jesus Christ up in the mountain was originally good but was gradually perverted by human tradition.

The law was designed even back then to lead men and women to salvation through faith in the coming Messiah who, as I said above, had given this law to Moses in the first place.

The fact that many sought salvation by the works of the law rather than by faith doesn't mean that the system itself as ordained by God was faulty. All that God does is perfect (Deut. 32:4).

There were those in the Old Testament times who accepted the law by faith.

The divine attributes of grace and truth were inherit in the law given to Moses, but had, for practical purposes, been lost under a thick layer of human tradition brought about by the perverted interpretation of the official exponents of the law, the rabbis.

By affirming that truth comes through Jesus Christ, John identifies Him as the reality toward whom pointed all Old Testament types and ceremonies, which were no more than a shadow of better things to come.

Now Christ appeared in person on this earth, which is the Christian reason for this time of the year, to reaffirm the great eternal truths revealed to these early men of old, and to restore them to their original luster, untarnished by human tradition.
Christ came to reveal the Father in His true character.

Here, for the first time, John refers to our Lord by the historical name, Jesus Christ. The eternal "Word" has become incarnate, a man among men, and John henceforth speaks of Him as such.

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John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

What can we learn from this verse?

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