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Re: Extreme Weather: Typhoons/Hurricanes/Cyclones, and Tornadoes [Re: kland] #181690
10/22/16 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Maybe true. Maybe not. Maybe a technicality.

Hurricanes travel a course. If there is something in the way, it gets destroyed. If it is not in the way, it survives. Some years, the line it draws crosses more things than other years. So any destruction of any particular year does not really indicate much of anything.

So destruction doesn't mean much. Strength may, and that has been getting less and less the last several years up to Matthew.


Now by increased destruction, if there could indeed be detected a tendency rather than a draw of the line, that could mean God is withdrawing protection.

(bold emphasis mine)

It's true storms take their course, but, the loss of life and livelihoods does matter.

Re: Extreme Weather: Typhoons/Hurricanes/Cyclones, and Tornadoes [Re: Green Cochoa] #181712
10/24/16 04:13 PM
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Yes, but realize it's addressing a totally different issue.

One question is: Are hurricanes getting worse, is the weather getting more extreme?

The other question is: Are there more causalities, more property and life loss, is God withdrawing His protection?

Totally different questions.

Re: Extreme Weather: Typhoons/Hurricanes/Cyclones, and Tornadoes [Re: Green Cochoa] #184987
08/25/17 12:43 PM
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Americans are going to take a turn once again, now, with Hurricane Harvey.

Current reports are that it may reach a Category 3 status (it's at Cat. 2 at present). I see evidence that it may grow to at least a Cat. 4. Tropical storms can strengthen quickly. But the major danger is not really the wind speeds--it's the rainfall. In my opinion it may actually dump less water if it reaches Cat. 5 status before making landfall. This is based on personal observations of typhoons that seem to pack maximum water at about Cat. 3 level. While I do not claim to understand fully the phenomenon, it seems almost as if the higher wind forces sort of ring out some of the moisture before carrying it overland. Thus, in my opinion, Harvey is positioning itself, if indeed it comes in as a Cat. 3 as most are predicting, for nearly maximum damage.

Forecast track and intensity can be followed here:

http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/tracker/dynamic/201709N.html


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Extreme Weather: Typhoons/Hurricanes/Cyclones, and Tornadoes [Re: Green Cochoa] #184988
08/25/17 02:47 PM
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Fires are definitely getting worse on the west coast!

Last year, here in Canada, Alberta suffered from a huge fire that destroyed many homes.

This year British Columbia has been burning all summer in the worst fire season.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/largest-wildfire-1.4257021

Re: Extreme Weather: Typhoons/Hurricanes/Cyclones, and Tornadoes [Re: Green Cochoa] #184989
08/26/17 01:13 AM
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My prediction came true. No one else was predicting a Cat. 4. I've been watching these storms (typhoons) develop for years and have gotten to the point where my personal mental calculations/intuition seem to have greater accuracy than the computer models.

On the negative side, however, this storm strengthened while so near to making landfall that there is likely no benefit in losing any of its moisture at sea. At this point, Texas appears to be in for a real wetting. Inundations are likely.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Extreme Weather: Typhoons/Hurricanes/Cyclones, and Tornadoes [Re: Green Cochoa] #185009
08/27/17 11:09 AM
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Again, another historic event happening with regards to the weather. Parts of Texas have indeed received upwards of a couple of feet of rainfall already, with that much more still expected in the next couple of days. Houston is experiencing a worse flood than it has in recent memory--and it wasn't even in the direct path of the hurricane. Many cars are submerged, with reports being that the local bayous (canals?) are overflowing their banks by as much as ten feet or more. Hundreds of county roads are shut down, and countless city streets have been turned into rivers. The 911 call center is flooded with thousands of calls, to the point they are telling people only to call for life-and-death emergencies (such as if they are clinging to their rooftops amid rising flood waters).

The rains are still coming...and they expect this flooding to continue at least five days. With little else to compare to in modern history, news reporters increasingly seem to invoke the usage of "Biblical proportions" to describe the degree of these catastrophes.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Extreme Weather: Typhoons/Hurricanes/Cyclones, and Tornadoes [Re: Green Cochoa] #185038
08/28/17 02:25 PM
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Houston is experiencing a worse flood than it has in recent memory

What about past memory?
Has a hurricane ever dumped this much water before?
Has Houston experienced more flooding before?

Re: Extreme Weather: Typhoons/Hurricanes/Cyclones, and Tornadoes [Re: kland] #185050
08/30/17 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: kland
Has a hurricane ever dumped this much water before?


I'm not too sure about "hurricanes," but if we broaden the definition to include all of the names of the same weather phenomenon, i.e. hurricanes, typhoons, and cyclones, then we can indeed see storms that have dropped more than Hurricane Harvey--much, much more, in fact.

Typhoon Morakot (2009) dropped 2.9 meters of water onto Taiwan. That's nearly 10 FEET of water--as compared to the predictions of Harvey possibly getting to half of that in the coming days. And Hyacinth (1980) sets the world record, with 5.7 METERS (>18 FEET) of rainfalldump.

So, put TWO "Harveys" into one single storm to equal Morakot--which, by the way, was only a Cat. 2 storm.

Again, based on personal experience with these storms, I would predict heavier rainfalls from mid-level storms than from the Cat. 5 superstorms.

References:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Morakot
http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/tracker/dynamic/200909W.html

Last edited by Green Cochoa; 08/30/17 04:10 AM.

We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Extreme Weather: Typhoons/Hurricanes/Cyclones, and Tornadoes [Re: Green Cochoa] #185057
08/30/17 10:00 PM
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I would agree, that while Harvey caused lots of destruction, and lots of people are in a bad way, Harvey is not an indication of worse weather than the past somehow indicating "the end".

Re: Extreme Weather: Typhoons/Hurricanes/Cyclones, and Tornadoes [Re: kland] #185090
09/04/17 03:54 AM
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Hurricane Henry has devastated many lives. Economically it is considered as one of the worst.

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It is now being estimated that the total amount of economic damage caused by Hurricane Harvey will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 190 billion dollars. It is a disaster unlike anything that we have ever seen before in all of U.S. history, and federal officials are already admitting that they are literally going to be dealing with the aftermath of this storm for “years”. At this point, more than 100,000 homes have been destroyed, “up to one million vehicles” have been ruined, and many retailers have already been caught engaging in extreme price gouging. But this could be just the beginning, because this storm has already rendered many areas along the Gulf coast “uninhabitable” for an extended period of time, and as you will see at the end of this article another hurricane may be arriving early next month.


Hurricane season isn't over -- there is another one coming.

Some have predicted a super Hurricane in Hurricane Irma that Could Wipe Entire Cities Off The Map. However, other news reporters say its too early to predict and it might not hit the USA.

Maybe it's just that media coverage brings these things more into our awareness -- but it sure seems like these devastating storms are doing a lot more damage EVERY YEAR, then in times past.

There are so many people in difficulty.

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