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Re: What change took place in Hebrews 7:11-12? [Re: Alchemy] #185640
12/01/17 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy
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"The book of Hebrews' main theme is the transition from the shadows or types that served to point forward to Christ's death and subsequent High Priest ministry in the heavenly sanctuary, to the reality.

When the reality came, the types and all the regulations and commands related to those types passed away."

Exactly what Hebrews 7:11-12 is about. But, even though the High Priest after Aaron is fulfilled, the Levitical Priesthood is still in existence in the Heavenly Sanctuary. Although they may not actually be serving there while Christ in ministering in the Most Holy Place of the Heavenly Sanctuary.


Two Bible passages I would like to remind everyone of:

Malachi 2:17 - 3:3 and Hebrews 8:1-6.

In Malachi 2:17-3:3 we find for one point that the "sons of Levi" are purified in the Heavenly Sanctuary. Hebrews 7:5 clearly describes the "sons of Levi" as the Levitical Priesthood. So, the Levitical Priesthood is being purified by the God of Judgment after He comes to His Temple. And who is this God of Judgment? Jesus. The High Priest after the order of Melchizedek.

In Hebrews 8:1-6, we find in verses 4 and 5 that Jesus can't come to this earth right now because He wouldn't even serve as a priest! Why?!? Because the law of the Levitical Priesthood is still binding on this earth.

That will end when Jesus comes the third time with the New Jerusalem. But, until then, the "pattern shown Moses in the mount" is the rule on this earth.

Re: What change took place in Hebrews 7:11-12? [Re: Alchemy] #185642
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Originally Posted By: alchemy
In Hebrews 8:1-6, we find in verses 4 and 5 that Jesus can't come to this earth right now because He wouldn't even serve as a priest! Why?!? Because the law of the Levitical Priesthood is still binding on this earth.
No. Read all of Hebrews 8. The Levitical priesthood was faulty and it has been done away with by better covenant, even in Christ. And if as you say the Levitical priesthood is still in force, then those that are priests are only of the tribe of Levi. Are pastors today of the tribe of Levi? Nope. Can you show that the law of the Levitical priesthood was changed to include pastors? No, you cannot.


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Re: What change took place in Hebrews 7:11-12? [Re: APL] #185657
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Was Abraham of the tribe of Levi? No. But, he still served as a representative of the Levitical Priesthood.

I have read all of chapter 8 of Hebrews and of all of Hebrews and all of your concerns have been answered by the fact that the Levitical Priesthood is still in existence.

Re: What change took place in Hebrews 7:11-12? [Re: Alchemy] #185664
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Abraham was NOT a Levitical priest. And no, you have not shown where the law was changed so that today's ministers can be Levitical priests, nor where the ministration of the priesthood can take place outside of the temple in Jerusalem. I'm sorry, but you have not proven what you claim.


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Re: What change took place in Hebrews 7:11-12? [Re: APL] #185669
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And you insist on missing the point! And because of this your questions are moot.

Re: What change took place in Hebrews 7:11-12? [Re: Alchemy] #185729
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Seems like this interesting thread discussion came to an abrupt end.


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Re: What change took place in Hebrews 7:11-12? [Re: Daryl] #185738
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Originally Posted By: Daryl
Seems like this interesting thread discussion came to an abrupt end.
It was a non-starter.


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