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#185923 - 01/26/18 03:28 PM Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered [Re: Karen Y]
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One thing for certain is that the other beast of Revelation 13 is referring to the USA, which hasn't happened yet, but is in the process of happening:

Rev. 13:11 ESV Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon.
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#185928 - 01/26/18 07:59 PM Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered [Re: Daryl]
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One thing for certain is that the other beast of Revelation 13 is referring to the USA, which hasn't happened yet, but is in the process of happening:

Rev. 13:11 ESV Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon.


So we should begin from known knowledge to unknown with our interpretation of Revelation..

The sea beast is Papacy, who is the seven headed beast. The 8th head belongs to the seventh head: in another words, its head is a part of the seventh of the beast. The 7th and 8th heads are in alliance to persecute God's saints and they are actively preparing to seize those who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus.

The fifth plague is poured upon the seat of the beast and his kingdom because the beast with the seven heads blaspheme God's name from the beginning of the first head to the last head. The seven headed beast is against the seven churches. The harlot sits on the seven headed beast portray this truth (see Rev. 17).

Four times of the point of reference are given in Rev. 17 about the fifth head as one of the past, present, and future, which depicts the powers against God's church. And the one of the seven angels who have been ready to pour out the vials of the plague said, "I will show you the judgment of the harlot"
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#185966 - 02/03/18 11:59 PM Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered [Re: Karen Y]
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One of the seven angels said, "I will show you the judgment of the harlot" (Rev. 17:1), and "I will tell thee the mystery of the woman" (Rev. 17:7).

We should have understanding about the mystery of the harlot woman and the judgment of her since the angel clearly said that he is going to tell us. And her judgment is spelled out in the fifth plague: "the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain" (Rev. 16:10).

The harlot woman rides upon the beast who ascended from the bottomless pit as a messenger or an angel (Rev. 9:11). This beast is seven-headed beast who carried the harlot woman(Rev. 17:7), who set upon the beast to administer her scheme throughout the seven church periods.

The beast's past, present and future (Rev. 17:8,10,11) parallel with the seven church's past, present and future (Rev. 1:19).

In the fifth trumpet, this beast received the key of the bottomless pit (abyss) to control the earth by maneuvering the ten horns of the kingdoms of the world, which is signified by the crowns upon the ten horns (Rev. 13:1). On his heads (the seven heads), he has the name of blasphemy. I believe that the fifth trumpet has important warning about the beast: the Papacy.


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#186024 - 02/16/18 10:58 PM Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered [Re: Karen Y]
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Woman in Rev 12 represents God's church and Dragon stood before the woman is Satan. He was ready to devour her child (Jesus) but her child caught up unto God, and to his throne (See Rev. 12:4,5).

Woman <=> Dragon
7 Churches <=> 7 heads

Dragon has => 7 heads and 10 horns: crowns on his heads
Dragon gave his power, his seat, and great authority to the beast who ascended from the bottomless pit => This beast also has 7 heads and 10 horns: names of blasphemy on his heads, and crowns on the 10 horns.

One of the seven angels said, "I will show you" about the great whore and "I will tell youth mystery of the woman (harlot)". The angel is saying that the beast with the 7 heads and 10 horns carries this harlot woman. Do you see their association? Who do you suppose this woman is that sit upon the 7 headed beast with 10 horns? Didn't the angel already told us who that is?

Have you seen this beast?: "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not, and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit" (Rev. 17:8). He has identity of existence in the past, present, and future, just as the seven churches (Rev. 1:19). The beast has the seven heads with full of names of blasphemy to oppose God's church through out the historical church periods. The whore who set on the seven headed beast will be judged because she killed God's saints (Rev. 19:2): "in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth" (Rev. 18:24).

"here is the mind which hath wisdom", and "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast" (Rev. 17:9, 13:18). Basically, the Scriptures are saying, if you have wisdom, please know that this identity is the Papacy.
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