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Re: Vaccines/Immunization shots #31658
02/12/06 12:06 AM
02/12/06 12:06 AM
B
Bobby  Offline OP
Regular Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 56
British Columbia
Vaccine Ingredients and Contact Info
Dawn Winkler
Source: 1997 Physicians' Desk Reference
Toll Free Numbers can be called to obtain product inserts
This is a representative, not a comprehensive, list of the various types of vaccines


Havrix
Hepatitis A
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
1-800-633-8900 ext. 5231
produced using formalin, aluminum hydroxide, phenoxyethanol (antifreeze), polysorbate 20, residual MRC5 proteins (from medium)
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Biavax
Rubella and Mumps Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co, Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Fluvirin
Influenza Virus Vaccine
Medeva Pharmaceuticals
1-888-MEDEVA
(716)274-5300
produced using embryonic fluid (chicken egg), neomycin, polymyxin, thimerosal, betapropiolactone
medium: embryonic fluid (chicken egg)

IPOL
Inactivated Polio Vaccine
Connaught Laboratories
1-800-822-2463
produced using 3 types of polio virus, formaldehyde, phenoxyethanol (antifreeze), neomycin, streptomycin, polymyxin B
medium: VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells

MMR
Measles Mumps Rubella Live Virus Vaccine
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolyzed gelatin
mediums: M&M - chick embryo
Rubella - human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

M-R-Vax
Measles and Rubella Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin
mediums: M - chick embryo
R - human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Menomune
Meningococcal Polysaccharide Vaccine
Connaught Laboratories
1-800-822-2463
produced using thimerosal, lactose
medium: freeze dried polysaccharride antigens from Neisseria Meningitidis

Meruvax II
Rubella Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Mumpsvax
Mumps Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Orimune
Poliovirus Vaccine Live Oral Trivalent
Lederle Laboratories
1-800-934-5556
produced using 3 types of attenuated polioviruses, streptomycin, neomycin, calf serum, sorbitol
medium: monkey kidney cell culture


Imovax
Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed
Connaught Laboratories
1-800-822-2463
produced using human albumin, neomycin sulfate, phenol red indicator
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
1-800-366-8900 ext. 5231
produced using betapropiolactone, aluminum phosphate, sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate (thimerosal), phenol red
medium: fetal rhesus monkey lung cells

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Re: Vaccines/Immunization shots #31659
02/12/06 12:09 AM
02/12/06 12:09 AM
B
Bobby  Offline OP
Regular Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 56
British Columbia
This is where it gets interesting

quote:

According to IVAC, (Illinois Vaccine Awareness Coalition 708-848-0116) all vaccines contain monosodium glutamate even if not listed in product insert. According to numerous sources, all vaccines contain thimerosal (mercury). Manufacturers have declared that it is not possible to produce any vaccine without these two components.

Chemical Profiles and Definitions
Sources: EDF (Environmental Defense Fund) & MME (Mosby's Medical Encyclopdia)

Ammonium Sulfate: EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant
neurotoxicant
respiratory toxicant

Amphotericin B: MME definintion - "a drug used to treat fungus infections. Known allergy to this drug prohibits use. Side effects include blood clots, blood defects, kidney problems, nausea and fever. When used on the skin, allergic reactions can occur."

Aluminum: EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant neurotoxicant respiratory toxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 6 ranking systems
On at least 2 federal regulatory lists

Beta-Propiolactone: EDF Recognized - carcinogen
EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant
respiratory toxicant
skin or sense organ toxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 3 ranking systems
On at least 5 federal regulatory lists
Ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%)to humans

Formaldehyde: EDF Recognized - carcinogen
Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant
immunotoxicant
neurotoxicant
reproductive toxicant
respiratory toxicant
skin or sense organ toxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 5 out of 12 ranking systems
On at least 8 federal regulatory lists
Ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to ecosystems and human health

Gentamicin Sulfate: an antibiotic

Hydrolyzed Gelatin: obtained from selected pieces of calf and cattle skins, de-mineralized cattle bones (ossein) and porkskin

Monosodium Glutamate: Normally used as a flavor enhancer in a variety of foods, however, due to concerns expressed by the American Academy of Pediatrics, MSG was removed from all products intended for use in infants under the age of one. Injections of glutamate into laboratory animals have resulted in damage to nerve cells in the brain.

Neomycin: an antibiotic

Phenol : EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant aka Carbolic Acid
developmental toxicant
gastrointestinal or liver toxicant
kidney toxicant
neurotoxicant
respiratory toxicant
skin or sense organ toxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 10 ranking systems
On at least 8 federal regulatory lists

Phenoxyethanol: EDF Suspected - developmental toxicant aka Antifreeze
reproductive toxicant
Less hazardous than most chemicals in 3 ranking systems

Polyribosylribitol: a component of the Hib bacterium

Polymyxin: an antibiotic

Polysorbate: EDF Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant

Sorbitol: EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant
Less hazardous than most chemicals in 1 ranking system

Streptomycin: an antibiotic

Sucrose: refined sugar

Thimerosal: EDF Recognized - development toxicant
Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant

Tri(n)butylphosphate: EDF Suspected - kidney toxicant
neurotoxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 3 ranking systems
On at least 1 federal regulatory list


Re: Vaccines/Immunization shots #31660
02/12/06 02:53 AM
02/12/06 02:53 AM
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Windsor  Offline
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Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 50
United States
You make it sound so simple Bobby. Fact is, people do not want to change their diet and no amount of convincing by a physician will change that. Either they get their pill or they end up even worse off with bad health plus lack of medication to help counter it.

Also, with cholesterol for example, some people cannot get their levels down to a safe limit by diet alone. In that case, it's a pill, or they die young.

Re: Vaccines/Immunization shots #31661
02/16/06 07:46 AM
02/16/06 07:46 AM
B
Bobby  Offline OP
Regular Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 56
British Columbia
quote:
Originally posted by Windsor:
You make it sound so simple Bobby. Fact is, people do not want to change their diet and no amount of convincing by a physician will change that. Either they get their pill or they end up even worse off with bad health plus lack of medication to help counter it.

Also, with cholesterol for example, some people cannot get their levels down to a safe limit by diet alone. In that case, it's a pill, or they die young.

You are correct Windsor. Most people do not want to change their diet. Because of the addictive additives placed into the foods and the emotional issues that lead people to turn to food for "comfort" in the first place. Between those two things, it is almost impossible for some to give up their favorite foods. It appears to have similarities to weaning a drug addict off of drugs.

However, if more doctors stood for the health message, more people would listen. My sister-in-law is a prime example of one who follows her doctor's orders to a "T". Her doctor told her to eat every two hours. That is totally against the health laws. It is no wonder she only has a bowel movement once per week at best. Also, because of her taking antibiotics for literally every little thing, and running to her doctor for every little sniffle, she has become the epitomy of the weak immune system. Drugs, also contribute to slowing down the bowels.

If a doctor explains the two sides, and the person still chooses the drug/pill, then that is their choice. But a doctor can educate patients to make a better decision for their long term health if simple changes are made.

Are doctors aware of ALL side effects of each drug prescribed ? I read an article of how everyday acetaminophen can cause poisoning. I bet not too many people realize that. I didn't realize how severe it was until recently. I will copy and paste the article for people to read. Surely, most doctors are not even aware of the dangers of even the simplest drugs and their side effects. More of the benefits are focused on.

I would have to disagree with you regarding cholesterol. Most cholesterol can be reversed by diet alone. A start, is to abstain from all animal products. Meat and dairy are to go, margarines, which contain sheep skin or cow skin (as Vitamin D3), need to go. Extra cholesterol is added to us when we consume animal products, (meat and eggs more so than dairy). So a start, is to seriously reduce, if not abolish, any meat eating. People who have had a stroke or heart attack, this holds especially true. Another piece to add to the puzzle is the hydrogenated oils. All Saturated fats are from animals, except for palm oil and one other. Saturated fats are to be avoided if they are animal or not. They are detrimental to health.

Have you ever evaluated the CHIP program Windsor ? Not only is it Adventist, but a doctor started the whole thing. Using simple, inexpensive methods to reverse disease, and give vitality back to people. Here is a quote from the website

quote:

For more than 20 years, Dr. Hans Diehl’s Coronary Health Improvement Project (CHIP) has helped more than 40,000 people to rediscover their health by preventing, arresting and reversing their diseases. The CHIP program is an engaging, highly entertaining 40-hour scientific journey into the causes and consequences of our present “state of health” in Western societies. Piloted in communities throughout North America, and with results published in several medical journals, CHIP is making a difference. CHIP will not only show you WHY we need to make better lifestyle choices but also HOW to stop the ‘good life’ from killing us. CHIP establishes the principle of health as an absolute necessity rather than a trendy option. It is not natural to be obese and hypertensive, have high cholesterol and triglycerides, and to suffer from diabetes, constipation, heartburn, angina and heart disease.


Re: Vaccines/Immunization shots #31662
02/16/06 11:07 AM
02/16/06 11:07 AM
Cheri Fritz  Offline
Full Member
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 278
Gloversville, NY, USA
Greetings Bobby,

My cousin who is a doctor, became disagreeble towards me when the lump on my breast was gone through natural methods of diet and herbs. He told me to stop telling stories about how the lump was gone. Also, if I do not stop telling what happened to me some people are going to end up believing me.

He further explained that people do not have money to be eating well so he would not tell them how to eat right.

Thank you for your time,
Your Sister in Christ Jesus,
Cheri Fritz

Re: Vaccines/Immunization shots #31663
02/25/06 09:24 AM
02/25/06 09:24 AM
B
Bobby  Offline OP
Regular Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 56
British Columbia
quote:
Originally posted by Cheri Fritz:
Greetings Bobby,

My cousin who is a doctor, became disagreeble towards me when the lump on my breast was gone through natural methods of diet and herbs. He told me to stop telling stories about how the lump was gone. Also, if I do not stop telling what happened to me some people are going to end up believing me.

He further explained that people do not have money to be eating well so he would not tell them how to eat right.

Thank you for your time,
Your Sister in Christ Jesus,
Cheri Fritz

I find it really strange to read testimonies like yours. One would think that a doctor would be overjoyed to learn of miracles such as that. Some would be, but are few & far between. The truth regarding his exclamation regarding eating right is silly. Maybe he said that because he is one of the majority of doctors who haven't learned much about nutrition. People are in the dark regarding dietary habits, and the effects of the foods today. I honestly believe that the food manufactured today is a form of population control. A slow but eventual death by poisoning. With more and more research I read, it is all too apparent.

Re: Vaccines/Immunization shots #31664
07/13/06 04:46 AM
07/13/06 04:46 AM
B
Bobby  Offline OP
Regular Member
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 56
British Columbia
One thing I would like to add to this thread; what about God in all of this?

What did people do before these injections came into being? Despite many people dying in the world due to various diseases and plagues, there were people who always survived. And didn't God tell us that if we follow His laws, He would keep us free from all disease ?

I think man has forgotten their dependence on God, and science has figured they are one step better by producing these immunizations/vaccines.

Re: Vaccines/Immunization shots #31665
07/16/06 08:40 PM
07/16/06 08:40 PM
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vastergotland  Offline
Active Member 2011
3500+ Member
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,965
Sweden
Sometimes Godly people also die by disease.

Re: Vaccines/Immunization shots #31666
07/17/06 01:12 AM
07/17/06 01:12 AM
Redfog  Offline
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 733
Michigan, USA
Actually I'd say that most of the time Godly people die by disease!

Redfog


If at first you don't succeed.....destroy all evidence you ever tried.
Re: Vaccines/Immunization shots [Re: Bobby] #133497
05/15/11 03:45 AM
05/15/11 03:45 AM
Green Cochoa  Offline
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Active Member 2021

5500+ Member
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 7,003
The Orient
Originally Posted By: Bobby
One thing I would like to add to this thread; what about God in all of this?

What did people do before these injections came into being? Despite many people dying in the world due to various diseases and plagues, there were people who always survived. And didn't God tell us that if we follow His laws, He would keep us free from all disease ?

I think man has forgotten their dependence on God, and science has figured they are one step better by producing these immunizations/vaccines.

God has His own vaccination system which is far superior to man's--colostrum. smile

Vaccines are scientifically proven to be detrimental, now, but there is a grand cover-up of the facts in order to preserve the pharmaceutical companies' large consumer base (i.e. revenue). There are multiple individuals who present scientifically sound data on the topic, and one of the best of these is Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. She is very knowledgeable on the topic, and has researched it thoroughly. She is able to prove the connection between the vaccinations and the disorders which they produce, by following the molecular pathways (the chemistry of some of that is over my head, but physicians would understand it). There are many youtube videos of her. Here is one that is more down to earth for the general public, where she was interviewed for the Alex Jones show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nx9FufpXX4

I have a relative working in Southern Cal. in a medical facility there who has seen 10 cases of the whooping cough come in recently, and nine of the ten were vaccinated for it. They each had moderately severe cases of it. The one which had NOT been vaccinated was only mildly ill, and was shortly sent back home to recover on his own. He had not received any vaccines.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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