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Re: Some Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witness Church [Re: Daryl] #135749
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Wow, Daryl, that's quite a jump. Seven years later! shocked

Is there a specific question you want to address regarding this thread? The JW's are very interesting to study.


"All that is Gold does not Glitter, Not all who Wander are Lost." (J.R.R.T.)
Re: Some Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witness Church [Re: JAK] #135753
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The last post before mine asked questions that were not answered, which is one reason why I decided to bump this thread seven years later.


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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Some Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witness Church [Re: Alpendave] #135754
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Originally Posted By: Dave Mullbock
I'd like to post a reply regarding the meaning of the name "Jesus/Yashua":

It means Jehovah Saves. Why didn't Gabriel, in giving instructions to Mary on naming Him, say, "Jehovah will use him to save His people?" Instead, he said, "He will save His people from their sins."

It seems to me the "He (Jesus/Jehovah Saves)" and "Jehovah (who will save His people from their sins as the name 'Jesus' implies)" must be that same personage.

Also, about Michael. Gabriel identifies him as our Prince in Daniel chapter 10. Now, who is our Prince? Doesn't the Bible say that David would be our Prince for ever? Didn't Gabriel say the Jesus would be given the throne of His father David? If Michael is not Christ, our Prince, then just where in the Bible is it mentioned that God's subordinate angels took the place of those in the Royal Line of David?

Dave


Well, Dave's last post was March 14, 2011, so he's still around. Perhaps he can clarify what he is asking, since I have no idea what he's talking about.


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Re: Some Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witness Church [Re: JAK] #135755
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Offering a few Bible verses in support of the assertions would also be helpful.


"All that is Gold does not Glitter, Not all who Wander are Lost." (J.R.R.T.)
Re: Some Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witness Church [Re: Daryl] #171075
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Bumping this for further reviewing.


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Re: Some Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witness Church [Re: Daryl] #171098
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I bumped this as I am preparing for JW meetings in our home in the very near future.

JWs believe:
1 - Creation is NOT a literal 24 hour day.
2 - Rev. 14 re 144,000.
3 - Sabbath day only for the Jews.
4 - Jesus is a created being.


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Re: Some Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witness Church [Re: Daryl] #171100
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1. JW's do believe in creation. They oppose evolution.
But the ‘Watchtower creation’ puts a symbolic meaning on the word "day".
Of course this is not unique to JW's, there are other's who (including some Adventists) who turn to such texts as 3Peter "a day is as a thousand years" to try and stretch creation out over long periods of time.

But the Genesis story seems to make a considerable effort to affirm that each day mentioned was a literal 24-hour day, with an evening and morning each day. It even numbers them as ‘the first day’, ‘the sixth day’, etc., which strongly implies these are literal solar days.


When we come to the fourth commandment we realize the weekly cycle of six days followed by the seventh day of rest are literal days.

3) Of course the Sabbath commandment is tied up with the literal week of creation. Take away the literal week of creation and the Sabbath as a memorial of creation crumbles.

The Sabbath was made for mankind. (not just the Jews)
Jesus says so in Mark 2:28

The Sabbath was sanctified and blessed on the seventh day of Creation (See Gen. 2:1-3) This is verified when God presented the Sabbath to Jews who are asked to "remember" something that that was sanctified and blessed at creation. (See Ex. 20:11)



2) 144,000
we've been told by a Jehovah's Witness that only 144,000 people enter heaven, the rest are left behind to carve out their earthly kingdom here.







4)John 1:1, The KJV reads: that Jesus the Creator (‘the Word’) ‘was God’.
But J.W. Bible in the New World Translation has changed the verse. The Watchtower’s translation doesn’t say ‘the Word was God’ —it says ‘the Word was a god’. So Jesus is downgraded to just ‘a god’, yet scripture teaches there is only ONE God 00

Re: Some Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witness Church [Re: Daryl] #171104
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Originally Posted By: dedication
1. JW's do believe in creation. They oppose evolution.
But the ‘Watchtower creation’ puts a symbolic meaning on the word "day".
Of course this is not unique to JW's, there are other's who (including some Adventists) who turn to such texts as 3Peter "a day is as a thousand years" to try and stretch creation out over long periods of time.

But the Genesis story seems to make a considerable effort to affirm that each day mentioned was a literal 24-hour day, with an evening and morning each day. It even numbers them as ‘the first day’, ‘the sixth day’, etc., which strongly implies these are literal solar days.

Their response to the evening and the morning being the first day, etc. is that it couldn't have been based on a solar day as the sun wasn't created until the fourth day.

How would you respond to that?


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Re: Some Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witness Church [Re: Daryl] #171116
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On the first day there was LIGHT.
It is an astronomical fact that a day-night cycle needs only light plus rotation. It doesn't need the sun for morning and evening to occur.



On the fourth day the present system of the sun was put in place.

Re: Some Beliefs of the Jehovah's Witness Church [Re: Daryl] #171120
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Interesting thought, God is the light of the first day.

However, I suggest that the Sun was in place, but the fourth day He put the rotation on the earth so the Sun can rule the day.

As far as the first day goes, if it was thousands of years, then the JW still have the problem of the Sun not ruling the day until thousands of years later....

What if "day" isn't based on the solar day, but the solar day is based on "day"? Meaning the Sabbath exists outside our solar system.

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