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The Difference Between (Islam) Muslim Beliefs & Adventist Christian Beliefs #39074
10/05/04 07:58 PM
10/05/04 07:58 PM
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As a result of what Cedric said in his post quoted below

quote:

.....If one would like to judge those beliefs another topic can be started.....

I decided to create this topic.

If the name of this topic isn't correct, let me know and I will rename it accordingly.

The following link provided by Claudia in the other topic should assist us in this topic:

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/islam.htm#difference

Let the discussion begin.

[ October 05, 2004, 05:46 PM: Message edited by: Daryl Fawcett ]

Re: The Difference Between (Islam) Muslim Beliefs & Adventist Christian Beliefs #39075
10/05/04 08:25 PM
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May I suggest this be changed to "Islam ......What Adventists Believe" otherwise we will be defending doctrines of papists and the misguided Protestants?

Re: The Difference Between (Islam) Muslim Beliefs & Adventist Christian Beliefs #39076
10/05/04 08:35 PM
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In response to Ikan's request, I added the words Islam and Adventist in the topic title which I trust meets the reason for the name change.

Re: The Difference Between (Islam) Muslim Beliefs & Adventist Christian Beliefs #39077
10/08/04 04:04 AM
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Thanks Daryl. Lets start out on what all branches (there are four main schools, with a few sub-schools) of Islam beleives about Life After Death and compare it to Adventist beliefs.

I suggest discussing one concept at a time here, otherwise there is no sequential understanding.

I will give references from Mufti (the highest national Islamic authority) approved Muslim books, not Western anti-islamic propaganda. I also will ask my friend Haji for the common man's viewpoint.

I will also quote when asked Adventist materials.

Re: The Difference Between (Islam) Muslim Beliefs & Adventist Christian Beliefs #39078
10/09/04 01:08 AM
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Anybody interested?
Oh...and I might add: as a converted person, of either religion, it is understood that being "objective" to the things of God is impossible.
The unconverted pretend to be objective, but are not.
However---being willing to give total freedom of conscience to others as to what and how they believe, under no force, is a sign of true submission to the Almighty, the Compassionate.

Re: The Difference Between (Islam) Muslim Beliefs & Adventist Christian Beliefs #39079
10/09/04 01:14 AM
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I know absolutely zero about Islamic beliefs, so it would be interesting indeed.
God Bless,
Will

Re: The Difference Between (Islam) Muslim Beliefs & Adventist Christian Beliefs #39080
10/09/04 03:45 AM
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Some quotes from "After Death, Life!", a grief intervention book for Muslims, by Ruqaiyyah Waris Maqsood, 1998, Goodword books,Al-Risala, New Delhi, India:

"Once again, Islam comes to the aid of the grieving soul. The state of the departed souls is a mystery known only to God; but there is a strong tradition that the tranquillising notion of the dead 'resting in peace' or 'sleeping' in their graves until Judgement Day is just wishful thinking, and is not what actually happens. Muslim tradition suggests that the souls of good people will be able to range (travel) far and wide, having all sorts of experiences.
These may all relate to their new state of life, but who could deny that perhaps these souls might well wish to console their mourners, and might be granted the opportunity, if God wills, to visit them with their loving presense?"


Quoted verbatum from the text (except the bracketed word), pages 29, 30

Re: The Difference Between (Islam) Muslim Beliefs & Adventist Christian Beliefs #39081
10/09/04 10:06 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Ikan:
...otherwise we will be defending doctrines of papists and the misguided Protestants?

All are misguided save me and thee, and sometimes I suspect even thee.

Re: The Difference Between (Islam) Muslim Beliefs & Adventist Christian Beliefs #39082
10/11/04 05:28 AM
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Any insights about the quote I gave, Will?

Re: The Difference Between (Islam) Muslim Beliefs & Adventist Christian Beliefs #39083
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Cry aloud:...either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.
The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.

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