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What is the full meaning of communion? #7945
05/01/01 11:29 PM
05/01/01 11:29 PM
Sarah Moss  Offline OP
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I'd like us to really dig deep and find out the whole meaning of what communion is and what it stands for. I found something out that I will post later, once I have heard from others - have to see if I am the only one to make the connection!

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Re: What is the full meaning of communion? #7946
05/03/01 06:16 PM
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Great question. To be honest, I have a hard time with communion. I appreciate reality and symbolism tends to get lost on me. I can get a blessing meditating on Jesus' life, death, burial and resurrection without going through the ritual of communion. And more often than not the foot washing and the bread and the juice make it harder for me to focus on Jesus.

Can anyone else relate? Does anyone have suggestions to help me get a blessing out of the service itself?


Re: What is the full meaning of communion? #7947
05/03/01 07:54 PM
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For a person who administered the communion service several times as the pastor in our own local church, I would like you to expand further on what you posted here.

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Re: What is the full meaning of communion? #7948
05/04/01 09:55 PM
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Sarah Moss  Offline OP
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I know this is the Bible Study topic room, but I want to direct you to the Desire of Ages, pp. 384-386 and especially p. 386, para. 2.

Deut. 8:3 and Jer. 15:16 also direct our thoughts in the direction mine have taken. I could, of course, tell you where my thoughts have gone, but I would love some discussion about it before doing so, and I would like to know if others will also draw this conclusion before sharing mine and influencing the thought patterns. Just so you know why I am not posting all my thoughts just yet.

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Re: What is the full meaning of communion? #7949
06/19/01 08:36 PM
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6And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. 27And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 28For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. 29But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.
The King James Version,


The bread and wine of communion represents the blood and body of our Lord Jesus who was sacrificed for us upon Calvery.

To partake of this most holy service is to understand that we have one who died for us as our "Passover Lamb" who is saving us from our sins, and that His life is an offering for our sinful life and that we have enterd into the New covenant with God.


Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever. (John 6:53-59)

To feast on Jesus is to obey His commands with loving obedience, why??? Because He is our Passover Lamb who first Loved us...

...--frenchmon

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Re: What is the full meaning of communion? #7950
06/26/01 05:46 PM
06/26/01 05:46 PM
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Thank you Sarrah for this discussion. I recently had a wonderfull experience with my 8yr old daughter at a communion. I alloud her to take the bread and juice. I know where her heart stands with Jesus and I know that she did and does not think of it as "snack". she even was witnessing durring communion to a little friend next to her, way better than I would have. It melted my heart. One of those proud mommy moments. I was told afterword though that in order to take of communion, you need to be babtized. not necessarily a sda, just babtized. Now if that was the case, I think we are hypacritical in inviting people to a completly open communion. I understand that the ceramoney should not be split up, like wash feet but don't take the bread and juice or visa versa, but it really left hard feelings. with me at least. I do not want to have communion in this church anymore. by that I mean my home church. I really feel that people have no right to say who can and cannot have communion with an invitation that clearly states before hand that we as sda's have open communion. wasn't it Paul who wrote something about if you do this do it in rememberance of God and have a good heart and concience otherwise you do it to your own dambnation?

Re: What is the full meaning of communion? #7951
06/26/01 08:44 PM
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Lisa...sorry to read about your problems at church over communion...

My wife and I had a meaningful discussion about communnion about this very thing... if it should be an open service or not...I myself think this service should be closed... that we need to be as whatchman over the importance of this sacrament.

We need to sort of know the people who take part in this, and those we don't know we need to ask them to give a testimony of their faith (privatly) in Christ before the service starts...

The bible says those who do this in an unworthy manner do this to their death, that many are sick for this same reason.

While I don't think you were out of line for letting you daughter take communion, many have no idea how important this service is. Please Lisa...let me encourage you to continue to fellowship and have communion at your SDA church and not let those whom have the wrong idea to chase you off...this is what the enemy of our souls would like...to divide us and discourage us out of the fellowship of the brethern...

Blessings to you and yours...--frenchmon


Re: What is the full meaning of communion? #7952
06/27/01 12:35 PM
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Frenchmon, Thanks for the incouragement. I have no intention of leaving the church, just not partaking in communion at my church. I however do disagree with the theory of hearing someones testamony privatly, that goes into the area of judgement. we are called to give an account of ourselfs to God not anyone else. However, we do need to somehow let people know in a loving manor that we are called to give account and if we do so honestly and partake of this ceramony we will gain a special blessing and if we are not honest and partake of this we do so to our damnation. and then extent the invatation. As my daughter understands Jesus and what he did for us is truly something amazing for her age, and I have seen a change in her since she took part in the half ceramony, I do so want to wash her feet also and believe that it would help to set deeper our beliefe and knowledge in our Savior for her in a world that is getting more horrible by the minute.

Re: What is the full meaning of communion? #7953
06/27/01 08:35 PM
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Hi Lisa...


You said:

"I however do disagree with the theory of hearing someones testamony privatly, that goes into the area of judgement. "

Lisa...The bible calls us to be as watchmen...there are many examples in the bible of this. Therefore we must ask in order to be as watchmen over what is holy, and communion is a holy sacrament for the believer in Christ. We need not know the personal history of strangers...only if they are in good standing with God through Jesus our Lord...After this, we have done our part and no blood is on us but the other person if he mis-uses the communion service.

As to your claim of passing judgment...the bible tells us we can know them by the fruit they bear...not that we are reading the heart, which would be judgment, but we see and hear the testimony of the person...you yourself said:

". I know where her heart stands with Jesus and I know that she did and does not think of it as "snack".

You did not pass judgment by claiming to know the motive of her heart but only saw the fruit of her heart...

Yes we are all accountable to God, but we also must be accountable for the things of God...

blessings Lisa...--frenchmon


Re: What is the full meaning of communion? #7954
06/28/01 01:45 AM
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Frenchmon, I agree with the thought behind your idea, But I can also see the potential danger in that. Like if you feel your heart is right with the Lord and you have all kinds of good works, but if God see's something that we miss, and we say o.k. you can take communion with us, and they really are not in the right place with the Lord, do we or the person who said it was allright have to answer for that to God? or how about if there newer with the Lord, and they don't have much to show, and we say I'm sorry, But they really are able in Gods eyes to take communion, are we held responsable for that? You know it can be a very touchy thing. I agree with the theory, but the reality gets complicated. You know about not talking about something in anothers eye when you have a log in yours. and what about not allowing the right know what the left is doing? Me It has allways been a dream of mine to have communion with a husband I can call mine.

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