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The twelve patriarchs of the Old Testament
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04/13/07 02:08 AM
04/13/07 02:08 AM
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As in the Old Testament the twelve patriarchs stood as representatives of Israel, so the twelve apostles stand as representatives of the gospel church. {AA 19.1} Who are considered the twelve patriarchs of the Old Testament? Are they the 12 progenitors of the Tribes of Israel? or Others?
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Re: The twelve patriarchs of the Old Testament
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04/13/07 07:42 AM
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I believe Jacob's 12 sons.
By God's grace,
Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: The twelve patriarchs of the Old Testament
[Re: asygo]
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04/20/07 09:04 AM
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The reference in Acts of the Apostles is to the 12 sons of Israel (Jacob). Adam, Seth, Enoch, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and many if not all of the line between Seth and Abraham would also be patriarchs.
In the SOP she seems to use that term for those godly men from the line of Seth who lived before the Exodus. But any godly man, married or not is eligible for that term IMO. I view my father-in-law, now resting in peace, in that way. And any godly woman is eligible for the term matriarch if she is a 'mother in Isreal'.
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Re: The twelve patriarchs of the Old Testament
[Re: asygo]
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04/24/07 07:57 PM
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The names of the 12 tribes of Israel are written on the gates to the new Jerusalem. (Rev 21:12)
I seem to recall from some past study, that the name of the tribe of Dan is missing from being written on the gates to the new Jerusalem (due to their idolatry), but I haven't been able to find it in scripture.
Does anyone know anything about this? I do not recall where I got the notion. I was thinking it was in scripture but I haven't been able to find it in my search. Anyone know of a scriptural or SOP reference?
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Re: The twelve patriarchs of the Old Testament
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04/24/07 11:26 PM
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I think there were 2 tribes missing, or one that was originally removed got added in Revelation which was Manasseh. I have that info laying around somewhere, and provide what I have later on.
God Bless,
Will
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Re: The twelve patriarchs of the Old Testament
[Re: Will]
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04/24/07 11:36 PM
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I am also trying to locate some quotes, however, so far, I am having trouble finding any of them.
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Re: The twelve patriarchs of the Old Testament
[Re: Daryl]
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04/25/07 04:46 AM
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If you have some notes on it that would be great. I have been racking my brain trying to recall where I had gotten the the idea that Dan's name was not written on a gate. I did find the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of Israel in Ezekiel, but Dan is included. Joseph is there rather then his two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh who had been "adopted" by Israel and received Joseph's double birthright blessing and represented him as two tribes of Israel. Ezekiel 48:31-34 (King James Version)
31And the gates of the city shall be after the names of the tribes of Israel: three gates northward; one gate of Reuben, one gate of Judah, one gate of Levi.
32And at the east side four thousand and five hundred: and three gates; and one gate of Joseph, one gate of Benjamin, one gate of Dan.
33And at the south side four thousand and five hundred measures: and three gates; one gate of Simeon, one gate of Issachar, one gate of Zebulun.
34At the west side four thousand and five hundred, with their three gates; one gate of Gad, one gate of Asher, one gate of Naphtali.
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Re: The twelve patriarchs of the Old Testament
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04/25/07 02:52 PM
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In Numbers Chapter 2 the Tribes of Israel are given according to the arrangement of the camp, and each camp had it's own standard, around the "Tabernacle in the wilderness". It appears that the arrangement here is different the arrangement of the "names of the gates," spoken of by Ezekiel. 2Every man of the children of Israel shall pitch by his own standard, with the ensign of their father's house: far off about the tabernacle of the congregation shall they pitch.
3And on the east side toward the rising of the sun shall they of the standard of the camp of Judah pitch. . . 5And those that do pitch next unto him shall be the tribe of Issachar. . . 7Then the tribe of Zebulun.
10On the south side shall be the standard of the camp of Reuben. . . 12And those which pitch by him shall be the tribe of Simeon. . . 14Then the tribe of Gad.
17Then the tabernacle of the congregation shall set forward with the camp of the Levites in the midst of the camp: as they encamp, so shall they set forward, every man in his place by their standards.
18On the west side shall be the standard of the camp of Ephraim. . . 20And by him shall be the tribe of Manasseh. . . 22Then the tribe of Benjamin.
25The standard of the camp of Dan shall be on the north side by their armies. . . 27And those that encamp by him shall be the tribe of Asher. . . 29Then the tribe of Naphtali.
33But the Levites were not numbered among the children of Israel; as the LORD commanded Moses.
34And the children of Israel did according to all that the LORD commanded Moses: so they pitched by their standards, and so they set forward, every one after their families, according to the house of their fathers. I find it interesting that according to tradition, the standard of the Tribe of Judah had a Lion on it. Christ is called the "Lion of the Tribe of Judah." That of the Tribe of Rueben had the likeness of a man's head. That of the Tribe of Ephraim had the figure of an ox and that of the Tribe of Dan had the symbol of an eagle. This is similar to, Ezekiel's vision of the four living creatures in the "Ezekiel saw the wheel vision" in Ezekiel 1. Ezekiel 1:10 (King James Version)
10As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.
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Re: The twelve patriarchs of the Old Testament
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04/25/07 04:22 PM
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Interesting observation, as I never previously connected it to the tribes of Israel.
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Re: The twelve patriarchs of the Old Testament
[Re: Daryl]
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04/26/07 06:19 AM
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The names of the 12 Tribes of Israel ingraved upon the "Remembrance Stones" Upon the two sardonyx stones also, were written the names of the Tribes of Israel. The names were written according to their birth, upon two stones, six names engraved upon one stone and six names engraved upon the other. This was part of the high priest garment. Exodus 28:9-12 (King James Version)
9And thou shalt take two onyx stones, and grave on them the names of the children of Israel:
10Six of their names on one stone, and the other six names of the rest on the other stone, according to their birth.
11With the work of an engraver in stone, like the engravings of a signet, shalt thou engrave the two stones with the names of the children of Israel: thou shalt make them to be set in ouches of gold.
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