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#183763 - 05/23/17 01:39 PM Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold. [Re: His child]
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: kland
Sorry, but I have a serious problem with prophecy which compares two languages and looks at letters which "appears" to resemble a letter in another language.

Omega is in no way related to "W". Do you agree?


I cannot agree since the lowercase Greek omega resembles a W in Greek writing. It is like

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trans·lit·er·ate tr.v. trans·lit·er·at·ed, trans·lit·er·at·ing, trans·lit·er·ates. To represent (letters or words) in the corresponding characters of another alphabet.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/transliteration

Yes, I would agree with your quote!

What does it mean to you, "corresponding characters of another alphabet"? How do you see our "W" corresponding to Omega in any way?

You quoted the following:
Originally Posted By: His child

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Alpha (uppercase &#913;, lowercase &#945;; Greek: &#902;&#955;&#966;&#945; Álpha) is the first letter of the Greek alphabet. In the system of Greek numerals it has a value of 1. It was derived from the Phoenician and Hebrew letter aleph - an ox or leader. Letters that arose from alpha include the Latin A and the Cyrillic letter &#1040;. (Alpha - Wikipedia)

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Omega (capital: &#937;, lowercase: &#969;; Greek &#937;&#956;&#941;&#947;&#945;) is the 24th and last letter of the Greek alphabet. In the Greek numeric system, it has a value of 800. The word literally means "great O" (&#333; mega, mega meaning "great"), as opposed to omicron, which means "little O" (o mikron, micron meaning "little"). (Omega - Wikipedia)

What does "great O" mean to you?
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#183764 - 05/23/17 02:19 PM Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold. [Re: His child]
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If that "principle" were applied as you suggest, papal Rome would never be identified in the Bible as having the number 666.
Once again, this is incorrect. That number is not needed to identify "Papal Rome" but it is in the Bible. Whats wrong is US inserting names that are not already there in God's Word. We are not to ADD or SUBTRACT from His Holy Word. Inserting names of presidents is guilty of doing BOTH.
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#183765 - 05/23/17 02:44 PM Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold. [Re: James Peterson]
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Originally Posted By: His child
...It is like

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trans·lit·er·ate tr.v. trans·lit·er·at·ed, trans·lit·er·at·ing, trans·lit·er·ates. To represent (letters or words) in the corresponding characters of another alphabet.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/transliteration


It appears that you like Bible codes, and put much stock in them. What do you think of this? I think it's quite clever!

Originally Posted By: David Montaigne

[b]I am not suggesting that Donald Trump absolutely *IS* the last trump ...


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Now that would at least make meaning clever use the English language....
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#183770 - 05/23/17 10:46 PM Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold. [Re: kland]
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In Greek the Omega uppercase is like an upside down horseshoe and the lowercase looks like a W.
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#183771 - 05/23/17 10:53 PM Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold. [Re: The Wanderer]
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Originally Posted By: The Wanderer
Originally Posted By: His child

If that "principle" were applied as you suggest, papal Rome would never be identified in the Bible as having the number 666.
Once again, this is incorrect. That number is not needed to identify "Papal Rome" but it is in the Bible. Whats wrong is US inserting names that are not already there in God's Word. We are not to ADD or SUBTRACT from His Holy Word. Inserting names of presidents is guilty of doing BOTH.


Once again, this reply is incorrect. The number 666 is in the Bible but the name for which it stands is not. To link the name with the number is correct only if something not in the Bible is inserted to explain what it means. Using a double standard is not rightly dividing the word of truth.
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#183774 - 05/24/17 02:04 AM Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold. [Re: His child]
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Originally Posted By: His child
Once again, this reply is incorrect. The number 666 is in the Bible but the name for which it stands is not. To link the name with the number is correct only if something not in the Bible is inserted to explain what it means. Using a double standard is not rightly dividing the word of truth.
"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you." (Dut 4:2)

"And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:" (Rev 22:17-18)

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Blindness of mind has happened to Israel. For human agents to misconstrue and put a forced, half truthful, and mystical construction upon the oracles of God, is an act which endangers their own souls, and the souls of others. "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book. If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18, 19. Those who, by their human construction, shall make the Scripture to utter that which Christ has never placed upon it, weaken its force, making the voice of God in instruction and warnings to testify falsehood, to avoid the inconvenience incurred by obedience to God's requirements, have become signboards, pointing in the wrong direction, into false paths, which lead to transgression and death. {FE 386.2}
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#183775 - 05/24/17 08:29 AM Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold. [Re: The Wanderer]
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Originally Posted By: The Wanderer
Originally Posted By: His child
Once again, this reply is incorrect. The number 666 is in the Bible but the name for which it stands is not. To link the name with the number is correct only if something not in the Bible is inserted to explain what it means. Using a double standard is not rightly dividing the word of truth.
"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you." (Dut 4:2)

"And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:" (Rev 22:17-18)

Quote:
Blindness of mind has happened to Israel. For human agents to misconstrue and put a forced, half truthful, and mystical construction upon the oracles of God, is an act which endangers their own souls, and the souls of others. "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book. If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Revelation 22:18, 19. Those who, by their human construction, shall make the Scripture to utter that which Christ has never placed upon it, weaken its force, making the voice of God in instruction and warnings to testify falsehood, to avoid the inconvenience incurred by obedience to God's requirements, have become signboards, pointing in the wrong direction, into false paths, which lead to transgression and death. {FE 386.2}


Lest we forget it is also written:

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There have been one and another who in studying their Bibles thought they discovered great light, and new theories, but these have not been correct. The Scripture is all true, but by misapplying the Scripture men arrive at wrong conclusions. We are engaged in a mighty conflict, and it will become more close and determined, as we near the final struggle. We have a sleepless adversary, and he is constantly at work upon human minds that have not had a personal experience in the teachings of the people of God for the past fifty years. Some will take the truth applicable to their time, and place it in the future. Events in the train of prophecy that had their fulfillment away in the past are made future, and thus by these theories the faith of some is undermined. {2SM 102.2}
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#183777 - 05/24/17 09:40 AM Re: Rejection of the Testimonies Foretold. [Re: kland]
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Originally Posted By: His child
In Greek the Omega uppercase is like an upside down horseshoe and the lowercase looks like a W.


Yes, I agree it "looks" and "appears".

But it's NOT!


You did not answer this:

What does it mean to you, "corresponding characters of another alphabet"? How do you see our "W" corresponding to Omega in any way?
...
What does "great O" mean to you?


Makes me think, you cannot answer it.

Find any evidence anywhere which states the Greek letter Omega corresponds to our letter "W". Your friend did not and Wikipedia did not.

In case you need to look at it another way:
What does our great capital letter "O" correspond to in Greek?
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