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The 2024 Election, the Hegelian Dialectic #198186
11/15/24 05:58 AM
11/15/24 05:58 AM
Rick H  Offline
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No matter which side takes power, it seems the devil is behind pushing them toward the path he desires. Take a look at this Walter Veith video on the election..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekza3SMwrLU

And the one previously of Trump and "Christian Nationalism"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAgCtX7f0Ow

Last edited by Rick H; 11/15/24 10:29 PM.
Re: The 2024 Election, the Heglian Dialectic [Re: Rick H] #198188
11/15/24 02:46 PM
11/15/24 02:46 PM
dedication  Online Content
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It is getting quite clear how Ellen White's prophetic warning of final events can come into effect with surprising rapidity and terrifying force. The whole scenario clearly outlined in Great Controversy and for years thought impossible and anyone taking it seriously being labelled with a degrading slogan of conspiracy theorist, will burst upon the world, for it is truth.

The Hegelian Effect has been in full view for several years now, it is REAL!

We've seen --

1. The flood, which has flooded society, making acceptance and promotion of all manner of immorality the key of freedom, while the basic principles of family life and work ethics are pushed aside. This has flooded this country with high propaganda force, escalating to unbelievable and disturbing heights. This has disgusted a lot of people, especially people with some Christian values. The hope of halting that flood seems imperative and urgent.

2. Yet true morality and values does not come by force, especially when the ones enforcing it aren't moral themselves.
Spirit of prophecy actually puts the blame of the nation sinking into immorality on the main line churches, who, in fighting against the fourth commandment have enabled "widespread infidelity, the rejection of the law of God, and the consequent corruption, under the full blaze of gospel light in an age of religious freedom...By introducing the belief that God's law is not binding" that God's law is nailed to the cross, obedience is legalism, and all we need to do is "love", but "love" in humanism, relativism, "common good" perspective, not necessarily in the Biblical perspective.
By undermining God's Word and the role of God's law governing a person's life, the church lost it's true power.

3. In the mean time, Co v id has introduced measures of government control over the population never before present in what was once a freedom loving country. That of course was also necessary in the plan. Also necessary is the strong counter measures against Trump, who with his bull dog determination will probably forcefully push measures through, that otherwise may have been negotiated more peacefully.

4. The lose of spiritual power by mainline Christianity, is keenly felt, so now the churches, driven by fear and urgency, seek to replace their loss of spiritual power, with legal power. They desperately want to enlist the power of the state. The huge support given Trump (who is not a moral person) is built on hope that he (by laws and his forceful personality) will return America to a more moral and great nation. Many people are believing that is the way to restore America, but it will only bring persecution and a terrible time of trouble.

5. According to prophecy -- American churches will take that power! Prophecy makes that clear.(Maybe this coming year, maybe not yet, God is still in control of those four angels holding back the winds of strife)

And when they do take that power, it will be seen as restoring values and morality and the good life of yesteryears.
The amazing thing, the very commandment they had fought so hard to trample, will be held high. To get rid of this command, they have for years now, repeatedly denounced God's whole law so they could avoid God's Sabbath, but now they will make it the center of their restoration campaign. a sign that they are returning the nation back to God, BUT, not with God's blessed and holy day, which is the sign of allegiance to the God of Creation, but with a day set up by another, one that will be a powerful alliance in getting government control to enforce it, -- the one whose sign of authority over God's commandments is the counterfeit Sunday. -- a counterfeit --

And what happens to those who realize this is trampling on God's law, and resist?
Especially as the whole movement is presented as restoring morality and values, (thus sounding so right) but things won't be right, something will seem obviously wrong since as the nation will be plunging into ever more and greater trouble?

Those resisting the Sunday law, will be accused of causing ALL the trouble.

We have very little time left.
We also have a God given mission. The fourth angel (message) of Rev. 18, is to enlighten the whole earth.

Re: The 2024 Election, the Heglian Dialectic [Re: Rick H] #198189
11/15/24 08:26 PM
11/15/24 08:26 PM
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That is such a perfect summation of our current situation, Dedication!
The time is so very short. We must be about our Father?s work!
People are open to spiritual discussions more than I have seen for a long time.


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Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

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Re: The 2024 Election, the Heglian Dialectic [Re: dedication] #198930
07/18/25 08:07 PM
07/18/25 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dedication
It is getting quite clear how Ellen White's prophetic warning of final events can come into effect with surprising rapidity and terrifying force. The whole scenario clearly outlined in Great Controversy and for years thought impossible and anyone taking it seriously being labelled with a degrading slogan of conspiracy theorist, will burst upon the world, for it is truth.

The Hegelian Effect has been in full view for several years now, it is REAL!

We've seen --

1. The flood, which has flooded society, making acceptance and promotion of all manner of immorality the key of freedom, while the basic principles of family life and work ethics are pushed aside. This has flooded this country with high propaganda force, escalating to unbelievable and disturbing heights. This has disgusted a lot of people, especially people with some Christian values. The hope of halting that flood seems imperative and urgent.

2. Yet true morality and values does not come by force, especially when the ones enforcing it aren't moral themselves.
Spirit of prophecy actually puts the blame of the nation sinking into immorality on the main line churches, who, in fighting against the fourth commandment have enabled "widespread infidelity, the rejection of the law of God, and the consequent corruption, under the full blaze of gospel light in an age of religious freedom...By introducing the belief that God's law is not binding" that God's law is nailed to the cross, obedience is legalism, and all we need to do is "love", but "love" in humanism, relativism, "common good" perspective, not necessarily in the Biblical perspective.
By undermining God's Word and the role of God's law governing a person's life, the church lost it's true power.

3. In the mean time, Co v id has introduced measures of government control over the population never before present in what was once a freedom loving country. That of course was also necessary in the plan. Also necessary is the strong counter measures against Trump, who with his bull dog determination will probably forcefully push measures through, that otherwise may have been negotiated more peacefully.

4. The lose of spiritual power by mainline Christianity, is keenly felt, so now the churches, driven by fear and urgency, seek to replace their loss of spiritual power, with legal power. They desperately want to enlist the power of the state. The huge support given Trump (who is not a moral person) is built on hope that he (by laws and his forceful personality) will return America to a more moral and great nation. Many people are believing that is the way to restore America, but it will only bring persecution and a terrible time of trouble.

5. According to prophecy -- American churches will take that power! Prophecy makes that clear.(Maybe this coming year, maybe not yet, God is still in control of those four angels holding back the winds of strife)

And when they do take that power, it will be seen as restoring values and morality and the good life of yesteryears.
The amazing thing, the very commandment they had fought so hard to trample, will be held high. To get rid of this command, they have for years now, repeatedly denounced God's whole law so they could avoid God's Sabbath, but now they will make it the center of their restoration campaign. a sign that they are returning the nation back to God, BUT, not with God's blessed and holy day, which is the sign of allegiance to the God of Creation, but with a day set up by another, one that will be a powerful alliance in getting government control to enforce it, -- the one whose sign of authority over God's commandments is the counterfeit Sunday. -- a counterfeit --

And what happens to those who realize this is trampling on God's law, and resist?
Especially as the whole movement is presented as restoring morality and values, (thus sounding so right) but things won't be right, something will seem obviously wrong since as the nation will be plunging into ever more and greater trouble?

Those resisting the Sunday law, will be accused of causing ALL the trouble.

We have very little time left.
We also have a God given mission. The fourth angel (message) of Rev. 18, is to enlighten the whole earth.



Yes, we are one executive order away from getting there as this President if you remember claims to have been 'sent on a mission by God' after the assassination attempt, and has set himself up with a cabinet that is mostly the Popes minions and has much the same at the Supreme Court. So there is nothing standing in his way of opposition, much like the leaders of Nazism and Communism who led the world into a world war which morphed into a cold war and now we see the makings of a third world war, so the Hegelian Dialectic has been used by what can only be the prince of this world to bring about his purposes, the chaos and terror to do his work of destruction and sweep aside the things of God.


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