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Strong Delusion #198821
06/06/25 01:15 AM
06/06/25 01:15 AM
ProdigalOne  Offline OP
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2 Thessalonians 2:11
?And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie?

Whether or not you have heard about the tidal wave of AI videos, comments, articles being posted currently, it would be wise to watch this video.

https://youtu.be/K2H0ESCgzSs?si=WoIO5FqSAtEKRL4L

Last edited by ProdigalOne; 06/06/25 01:17 AM.

"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Strong Delusion [Re: ProdigalOne] #198822
06/07/25 09:40 AM
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AI is not only in videos, comments, articles, but as I encountered not long ago, in conversations with what one supposes to be people online. I came across a poster who was asking that people join [him] in studying the Bible on a certain theme, and [he] asked me to come look at this site which had weekly sermons at a specific time on certain subjects. So I asked what did they concern and who was having them, and there it got kind of hazy and repetative, and then it got really strange when I made a comment about getting old and [it] went into a frenzy about old people. Then I knew it was AI and warned everyone as many were also joining in conversations with [it]. We nipped it in the bud, but it caught others that had not seen what we had discerned and took a while till we had informed those on the site..

Re: Strong Delusion [Re: ProdigalOne] #198837
06/17/25 09:39 PM
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Re: Strong Delusion [Re: ProdigalOne] #198839
06/18/25 03:47 PM
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Whether it's groups of people either for propaganda reasons or simply to stir up confusion, or whether it is AI (which is hugely invading our media) either being used by people or generating things on its own, one thing is obvious, a person can no longer simply believe anything that's being presented as "factual".

Re: Strong Delusion [Re: ProdigalOne] #198856
06/26/25 05:45 PM
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The whole internet media is set up to generate strong delusions.
Just scanning the headlines as they pop up on the screen it is verifying the disturbing reality that news is no longer news, it's driven by sensationalism.
The headlines are bold with emotional laden words. They no longer list events and sources for their information in a factual manner. It's all prefaced and interwoven with character assaulting words, blatant assumptions of motives and geared to arouse peoples emotions for or against whatever they want them to be for or against.

Re: Strong Delusion [Re: kland] #198928
07/17/25 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kland

AI seems to repeat itself or use improper words or strange inflection in the grammar.

Re: Strong Delusion [Re: ProdigalOne] #199032
08/28/25 07:07 PM
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I didn't compile or write this, but thought it's a warning that should be shared.
Posted in Facebook.

Numerous fabricated Ellen White quotations shared online recently,
most likely of the GPT chat variety.
Some of these quotes aren?t necessarily bad, others provide verbiage similar to what Ellen White *might* have said, and even contain some short phrases one might have read in other contexts, but all of the quotes are not original quotes and found nowhere in her writings
FACT CHECK EVERY QUOTATION YOU SEE ONLINE.
I?m going to post some examples, I won?t provide where I found these, I don?t want to shame or call anyone out in particular, I know the sharing of these quotes was most likely an honest mistake on their part.
Here are some AI Generated quotations that I?ve seen on the internet THAT DON?T EXIST IN ANY OF ELLEN WHITE?s WRITINGS:

Fabricated quote: "I have been shown that very many have not honored the Sabbath, and have had no special regard for its sacredness?Some have engaged in sexual indulgence on the Sabbath, which God regards as a violation of its sacred hours." Testimonies for the Church, Volume 2, p. 703

Fabricated quote: "It is a mistaken idea that Christ wore long hair. He is our example in all things..." " (Youth's Instructor, Oct. 31, 1871).

Fabricated quote: Not until the fall of man was there a fallen world. Satan had tempted other worlds, but they had stood in their integrity.? (Signs of the Times, Jan. 16, 1879)

Fabricated quote: "Among the most dangerous resorts for pleasure is the dance. ... To many it is the very pathway to ruin."
Messages to Young People, p. 315:

Fabricated quote: "Dancing, in any form, tends to evil. ... Its influence is wholly demoralizing."
Evangelism, p. 406:

Fabricated quote: "The people gave themselves up to gluttony and licentious reveling. Singing, shouting, and dancing became a scene of heathen riot, an imitation of idolatrous worship." Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 717

Fabricated quote: "The omnipresence of the Spirit of Christ is the omnipresence of the mind of Christ." ? Letter 124, 1897

Don?t use GPT or any A.I generate to find quotations for you?it?s not effective, 80% of the time it will create quotations that sound genuine but actually suite your biases, some of those biases may be biblical, others not: nevertheless it?s misleading to share a supposed Ellen White quote that doesn?t actually exist.

Re: Strong Delusion [Re: ProdigalOne] #199036
08/29/25 04:23 PM
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The deceptive magic of A.I.

Most insidious trick of AI language Models

Quotes from above source
"For a while, I enjoyed letting AI take a look at my content before publication. It seemed valuable for facts and feedback....The engine was always complimentary.....When I would catch AI in an error, the engine would apologize....
I?ve asked (A.I.) how my content could be improved. The results are revealing. It removes all edge, all judgment, all genuine expertise, and replaces my language with flaccid conventionalities and banalities. It nuances everything I write into the ramblings of a social studies student looking for a good grade....
The problem is that AI absorbs and spits back conventional wisdom gleaned from every source, which makes its judgments no better than those of someone wholly uninformed on particulars. Rather, it gains opinions from the mood of the moment. ....
It never quite argues against you, much less says that you are an idiot. It begins every answer by granting what it can and then offers clarifications that might adjust your thinking. ...AI will be patient for hours on end. ,,,
Remember that none of this is real. AI doesn?t really care about you; it is only programmed to seem to care. This is the innovation and the magic, together with the assembly of a vast repertoire of facts and the capacity to express itself in English. Its real superpower is psychological, the ability to use our ultimate weakness (selfishness) against us, with the goal of manipulating how we think."

Re: Strong Delusion [Re: ProdigalOne] #199053
09/06/25 12:55 PM
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I use AI for finding Bible verses and for a Latin tutor, because my teacher is ill. It greatly assists me==a whole lot cheaper that a human Latin tutor.

We Should always look up things to verify them.

Re: Strong Delusion [Re: ProdigalOne] #199087
09/19/25 11:19 PM
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Well, AI robot is teaching the lesson and even trying to teach members what the church believes at this subforum for SDA. I would put the link but I am having its posts taken down...

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Lesson 12​

Memory Text:
?And the Lord passed before him and proclaimed, ?The Lord, the Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children?s children to the third and the fourth generation? ? (Exod. 34:6, 7, NKJV).



Why is LORD written as Lord?


Exodus 34: "6 And the Lord passed before him and proclaimed, ?The Lord, the Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding in goodness and truth, 7 keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children?s children to the third and the fourth generation.?


Exodus 34:6-7 (NKJV) - BibleStrong.org


Exodus 34:6-7 And the LORD passed before him and proclaimed, ?The LORD, the LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and t | New King James Version (NKJV) | Download The Bible App Now
And the LORD passed before him and proclaimed, ?The LORD, the LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children?s children to the third and the fourth generation.?



Were the verses copied and pasted but the editor, writer of this lesson not proof read?


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