Yes, they are forgetting history!

Another huge part of that history which they are forgetting is that sacralist society will always be persecuting society.

A sacralist society is bound together by a common religious loyalty. A religion to which all the members of that society are expected to be committed.
Israel was a sacralist society, one religion, everyone was expected to worship according to it's laws, though they often wandered far afield, yet they still considered themselves as part of the sacralist society.

That's the big problem in sacralist society, in which people claim a religion in an outward way simply because they are in that geopolitical/religious group where it is the state religion, not because of any strong loyalty or conviction.

The New Testament is built on an entirely different plan. A plan in which members of God's kingdom of grace can live in any geographical society and still be citizens of God's kingdom. They are members of God's kingdom because they have chosen Him and are loyal to Him. They render under "Caesar" the things that are Caesars and unto God the things that are God's.

The whole idea of Israel as a nation being God's people, ended. Israel now are "those in Christ", not because of biological process.
God's children are such "by faith in Jesus Christ" they are the ones who are "baptized into Christ have put on Christ" "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." (Gal 3:26-29)
God's true children do not persecute those who believe differently, but they do witness and proclaim the gospel.

Persecution is part of sacralist societies.

In a sacralist society there is a huge perceived threat to the society as a whole, if some people in that society hold to a different religion than the state religion. There is a big "need" to either convert them or eliminate them. It is thought their disloyalty in the state religion will destroy the whole nation. Thus sacral societies always persecute.

The United States (by God's grace) implemented to a big degree, the New Testament plan for government.
Christianity is not a culture rope and rod to hold society together, but rather a culture influencer . It is wrong to say the nation was founded as a Christin society because there was never a time when everyone in the USA was a Christian. And there were always many different "flavors" of Christianity, none of which were to be government support, but neither were they to be condemned, or hindered.
Yet the USA was highly influenced by Christianity, sometimes more, sometimes less, but no one is expected to be a Christian in order to be USA citizen. There is freedom of religion.
The state is a secular institution, not an enforcer of religion, it is not a punisher of what some think, heresy.

The Papal church on the other side, was, during the middle ages, very much a sacralist society. The people were expected to adhere to certain beliefs and practices or face the inquisition, persecution, exile, or death. There was considerable zeal to root out all "heretics".
The protestants were not immediately cured of the sacralist mind set either, and did some serious persecuting as well. It took a while to realize the sacralist method was not the NT method


What is looming ahead, is an attempt to make the USA a sacralist society. Trump himself is hardly an example of genuine Christian. He, like Constantine, sees Christianity as a possible binding power to bring the USA into a cultural with a unifying, correcting mode.

In the time of the end, we are warned, those who resist the religious mandate (sunday keeping) will be seen as destroyers of the society. That can happen only if the United States turns into a sacralist society.
A sacralist society doesn't need conviction and genuine religion, all it needs is to reign people in to adhere to certain practices to show they "agree". Thus the mark of the beast is satisfied with the mark just being in the "hand" (adhering to certain practices of a religion), while God will only honor the sign being in the forehead (frontal lobe of the brain) where true belief, faith and commitment show a genuine loyalty and trust in HIM.

Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
The false prophet, appears in the likeness of a "lamb" in Revelation. Arising, not from the tumultuous seas of European humanity, but new land. Looking like a lamb, a connection or contrast with the LAMB of God. This new "lamb like" nation was raised and blessed, to be a blessing, it's strength (horns) is in it's republicanism and Protestantism.


But this blessed nation (turns into a false prophet) rejects both it's Protestantism and republicanism and clasps hands with the Vatican power again.

Rev. 13:12 And he (the United States) exercise all the power of the first beast before him (its the United States that will weld the coercive power. The government of the USA will take up the two swords, to enforced religion and punish so called heretics, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, (recognize the papacy as the one to be honored and obeyed) whose deadly wound was healed (the Papacy will again be respected as a world leader).
The enforcing power in the last days, however, is not the papacy, the papacy becomes the religious authority and influencers, but not the enforcers. The one who holds that "former" power to "give life" to religious mandates, as chief enforcer, is the United States (the false prophet)
13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, Protestantism first clasps hands with spiritualism, and uses spiritualistic power to preform fantastic things, this is highly DECEPTIVE . It is not a natural event, this manifestation of power is spiritualistic.
13:14 And deceives them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; Not just fire from heaven, but other miracles, supernatural events, as well) saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Satan will work "with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness". And all that "received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved," will be left to accept "strong delusion, that they should believe a lie." [2 Thessalonians 2:9-11.]

saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
When the leading churches of the United States, uniting upon such points of doctrine as are held by them in common, shall influence the State to enforce their decrees and to sustain their institutions, then Protestant America will have formed an image of the Roman hierarchy, and the infliction of civil penalties upon dissenters will inevitably result.. {GC88 445.1}
13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. The USA will make laws and enforce the agreed upon creed of religious conduct.
13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: A sign or mark to distinguish those who co-operate, and identifies them from non-cooperators. Rev 14:12 tells us those who resist this mark will, with patient endurance be keeping Gods commandments, they will have responded to the first angel's call to Worship Him Who made the heaven's and the earth, the sea and fountains of water. Rev. 14:7. (comp. Ex. 20:11)
Saturday, the 7th day sanctified and set apart by God as holy and blessed, (Gen 2:1-2) being the one command (Ex.20:9-11) the churches have thoroughly attacked, while placing a counterfeit in it's place to be enforced.

The details as to how that will be enforced we don't know yet, but the ability to do so is no longer a problem. It may be only those showing up Sunday morning at mass or similar worship receives a working debit card? Or anyone found worshipping and not working on Saturday have there bank accounts frozen. The ability to control everyone's buying and selling is already in place.
Everything is already in place to make it possible to enforce their mandates with economic pressure

And yes, enforcing Sunday worship is a sign of exalting the papal church as being above God.
For all it's more agreeable traits, the Roman Church has not relinquished her claims; and when the Protestant churches accept and enforce a sabbath of her creating, and trample on the Bible Sabbath, they virtually admit this Roman power is above God. People may claim it's not really the papacy, it came through tradition and of the Fathers that acknowledge the change; they may point to some vague text where something happened on a Saturday night, or Sunday, as some "very weak" circumstantial evidence, but no Biblical text, anywhere indicates there is a new sabbath. The Bible is completely silent on any command from Christ or the apostles that the Sabbath of God's ten commandment law has been changed, or that Sunday is now the sabbath, and the 7th day Sabbath is now no longer binding, Yet, it will be maintained that Sunday must now be set apart for God. To do this is to ignore the very principle which separates Protestantism from Rome,--that "the Bible, and the Bible only" is the final authority. It was Protestant defense of Sunday which was the issue at the council of Trent around 1560, that won the debate against Protestants.
Protestantism's claim of Sola Scripture was defeated, and Catholic tradition upheld, when archbishop of Reggio who, at the Council of Trent, said:

And so Protestantism, by failing to follow the Bible, was already, way back in 1560, on it's way to be the false prophet.

What does it mean to "come out of Babylon"?
Babylon is described in considerable detail.
There is definitely a political/religious system involved.
Babylon is symbolic of religious confusion, and political controlling power.

There is a large economic element as well, with certain "growing rich" "wealthy merchants", a mindset of greed and personal pursuit of wealth at the expense of others, for the opposite will be true as well, as those not in line with the program will "not be able to buy or sell.
There is spiritualism involved, spirits of demons. That's another large part of Babylon.

Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Protestants are not exempt:
Remember --
"Protestants of the United States will be foremost in stretching their hands across the gulf to grasp the hand of Spiritualism;" Great Controversy, p. 588.
Interesting that she mentions spiritualism first, before she mentions the Roman power.

How is spiritualism defined?

We understand the deception of spiritualism -- we know communicating with the dead is a trap, (Isaiah 8:19) the dead are dead, (Eccl 9:5,6) and fallen angels appear and communicate with people, pretending to be the departed dead. That already puts huge red flags on the Roman church, which is very much into communicating with dead people they call saints and "mary" and other names of people who once lived, and think they are alive and directing affairs on earth.

But Protestantism? Are they stretching their hands across the gulf to grasp the hand of Spiritualism? They already have the wrong concept that the dead have immortal souls that are alive after the body is dead. While thinking one's loved one is safe in heaven may be comforting, the next step leads straight into spiritualism. They have rejected the only defense against the delusions of spiritualism and left themselves wide open to spiritualistic manifestations.

But how else are protestants stretching the hand out to spiritualism?

What we are seeing today in the religious world, is a moving away from doctrinal, Biblical beliefs, and seeking a spiritual experience. The problem here is that both are needed, a solid Biblical based belief system is needed AND a personal experience and relationship with our Lord is needed. Focusing on one and discarding the other makes one unbalanced. It's true, intellectual doctrinal knowledge without an heart relationship with the Savior is dead, useless, and even detrimental. But that does not make an emotional religion right, if obtained by throwing out Biblical doctrines and warnings and commandments.
Is the modern movement which pushes aside doctrine and seeks for experience sliding headlong into spiritualism?

A movement to liberalize and easternize religion? An esotericism, pantheistic, new age, philosophical, pagan, mix, with just enough traditional to give the illusion it's truth?

But there is more:

By spiritualism, multitudes are taught to believe that desire is the highest law, that license is liberty, and that man is accountable only to himself. {AA 474.1}

"Spiritualism asserts that men are unfallen demigods;
that "each mind will judge itself;" that "true knowledge places men above all law;" that "all sins committed are innocent;" for "whatever is, is right," and "God doth not condemn."..Thus it declares to all men, "It matters not what you do; live as you please, heaven is your home." {Ed 227.6}

-Spiritualism is about to take the world captive. There are many who think that Spiritualism is upheld through trickery and imposture, but this is far from the truth. Superhuman power is working in a variety of ways, and few have any idea as to what will be the manifestations of Spiritualism in the future. . {Ev 602.4} ...He works cures, and is worshiped by deceived mortals as a benefactor of our race.

1 Sam 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft,
Rebellion against God's just and holy law, is also a form of spiritualism.?

I dont think he got what he wanted.
I think trumps number one fan is trump. And everyone else is supposed to go along with him. and he gets all side of worked up if you dont. He wanted to test the waters with the new PM, and brought up that ridiculous 51 state. I am sure he was livid when he found out it was a no go with this guy too.
He is supposed to be able to do things others wouldnt dream of doing, like knocking the constitution, sending folk away without due process, coming up with stuff to try to prove he is right (like the MS13 photoshop--he'll get mad if you say it is.He has a busload of lackeys) and these are supposed to be good Christian people when I've never seen so much hate out of a group of folk in my life. The things that guy gets away with are shocking.

I know about the papacy in the last days, and was afraid when I found out he was an american, and trump was praising him. and then when I found out that Pope Leo had said some things about the way the trump admin was, and that he had served 20 years as a missionary in Peru and had a kind spot for immigrants, I was ROFL, because it was making trump and maga upset.

I would tend to agree with that assessment as what's happening so far..

So why did the majority in the Jewish nation not see the meaning of John the Baptist's words, "Behold the Lamb of God"?

Monday's lesson gives us the clues.
Hebrews 10:1 For the law (governing the sanctuary ceremonies) having a shadow of good things to come, they were not the very image of the things, they can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually, make the ones coming with them perfect. ...10:4 For it is impossible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins

Why did the author of Hebrews stress the fact that animal sacrifices couldn't take away their sins?
Because people thought they could?

The patriarchs and prophets of old, looked forward to a coming Saviour, in whom they showed their faith by sacrificial offerings. BUT, the pagan counterfeit had crept in and people began to think they, by bringing a sacrifice, were paying for the sin, and the act of bringing an animal was, in their minds, the actual means their sins were taken away. So, during the time of John the Baptist, the ceremony had become the means to deal with sin, they weren't looking for a Messiah who would do what they could already do by bringing an animal to the temple.

In fact, the whole idea that they needed a Messiah to die for their sins, and to cleanse them, was a threat to their sense of security in their belief that they were the chosen children of God, they had the temple and its services, as long as they followed it's rituals was that not enough to signify they were saved, God's chosen?

The symbolic act of sacrificing a lamb was to impress upon people the terrible evil of sin and instill in them faith in a coming Savior who would die for them, but this act had erroneously in itself become their assurance that they were taking care of their salvation by offering God animals, and they didn't need a Savior to save them from their sin.

Now of course we, as Christians, have the New Testament, which plainly and with great emphases shows how much we need a Savior Who died for us that we may be forgiven and cleansed from sin. It is the central point from which all salvation flows.

But the evil one again puts a huge block in place in his attempt to destroy the value of this great sacrifice.

The whole purpose in Jesus coming to this world and dying for the sins of the world was not to condemn the world, nor to excuse sin, but to lift people out of sin, so that people may be fitted, transformed, to rejoice in a sinless forever world, It was not salvation in transgression and unrighteousness, but in forsaking sin, being transformed from within, washing their robes of character, and making them white in the blood of the Lamb.
There is no security of salvation in sin, but Christ came and died giving us assurance that He has done and will do everything for those who responding to his love, come in faith and surrender to Him, so that sin in their life will be overcome through uniting with Him , seeking His character and laying hold by faith His power and strength.